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Billy Cunningham, the Great America.
Welcome this glorious Friday afternoon in the tri

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State. Of course, Bengals kickoff
tomorrow about one oh five vikings in town,

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and there's a heartbeat when it comes
to the Bengals maybe making into the

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playoffs. Our coverage starts about nine
o'clock tomorrow morning, plus later on about

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one hour we have Brian Kilmead's going
to be with us from Fox News.

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But until then. On Wednesday,
Ohio lawmakers voted to ban transgender girls from

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female sports and to restrict the medical
care of transgender miners. I guess the

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headline is that doctors in the state
of Ohio, assuming Mike DeWine signs the

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bill, which is questionable at this
point, would prescribe. It would keep

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doctors from prescribing hormones, puberty blockers, or gender reassignment surgery before that Ohio

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kid turns eighteen years old, and
a change on Wednesday also would allow Ohio

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residents already receiving hormones or puberty blockers
to continue. Joining you and I now

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is the great Senator Steve Huffman of
Miami County more or less, and Senator

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welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show, And can you tell the American people

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the three or four headlines of the
bill that you voted for and that sits

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on the governor's desk as we speak. Give me the three or four headlines.

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I think you summed it up pretty
well. But no puberty blockers,

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no hormones, no surgeries under eighteen. But you also forgot a second component

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of this that high school students,
college athletes could not change if they're assigned

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as a male, could not say
that they're a female and then play in

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those high school sports. And so
does this also would this also apply to

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like Ohio State or University of Toledo
or Miami? Does it apply there too?

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It says members of the NCAA,
a A or the or A junior

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college. Yes. Okay, let's
talk about gender dysphoria in general, which

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is a medical condition. Until recently, it was viewed as a psychiatric condition

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that required some sort of intervention by
a psychologists or a psychiatrist. But can

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you explain what is gender dysphoria that
someone who is biologically one sex mentally and

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feels that they're of the other sex. Okay, and so this, yeah,

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so, and sometimes that there are
some that have. According to the

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literature, about ninety nine point nine
percent of us aren't in that category,

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but about point one percent is in
the category of someone who thinks like,

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I look physically like a male,
but I think I'm a female. And

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in the past, how was that
dealt with? Well, probably when when

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you were growing up, it was
totally ignored, you know, and that

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it's at times it's been just cross
dressing, and that it's you know,

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coming to these hormones and surgeries recently, and as far as the uh,

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the activist on one side claim that
you're gonna one one argument I hear that

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the issue we voted on, which
was State Issue one, we were told

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during the campaign that this had nothing
to do with gender re assignment surgery or

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sports. But now the arguments I
hear on the other side is that this

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might violate what we just passed relative
to abortion, which is a reproductive issue,

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because if one changes one's gender,
it affects one's reproductive abilities. Is

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it in the back of your mind
somehow that State Issue one impacts the legislation

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you voted for on Wednesday or not. In my opinion, it doesn't but

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I think at some point the Supreme
Court may have to be asked to answer

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that question, but in my opinion, it doesn't. Senator, what do

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you we had a children's hospital here
in Cincinnati is a fine facility. It

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was voted the best children's hospital in
the country when you voted for this,

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and it's on the governor's desk awaiting
signature. That children's hospital issued a statement

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saying that the laws interfering somehow with
doctor patient relationships and also interfering with the

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relationship of a mother or father who
wants their child to go through this gender

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reassignment surgery beginning with hormones. How
did you process the idea that many of

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the children's hospitals, including I would
assume nationwide and Columbus opposes this, did

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this way into your thinking at all? It did. I will say that

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their association and every children's hospital in
the state was against this, But I

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think it came down to, you
know, we have a duty to protect

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the hollow highlights, and I think
that's what it came down to, is

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to protect them till they were able
to make their own logical decision at an

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appropriate age. And so I would
assume that the activists have a different viewpoint.

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In fact, I'm getting a text
from one right now that deals with

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the issue of was there any testimony
that ten years from the switch as a

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teenager, that there was buyer's remorse? And I've done this topic. This

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topic didn't didn't exist till about two
or three years ago. By the way,

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I've been doing this for about forty
years. And gender reassignment surgery was

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perceived as mutilating a child, which
was illegal, and hormonal therapy was brand

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new. But can you tell the
American people what percentage or ten years after

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the switch, Let's say this person
who's gone transgender is twenty five, thirty

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years old, and how much buyer's
remorse has there been in that regard.

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I can't give you a percent or
a number. But we did have a

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number of people that came and testified, and you know that that expressed that

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they wish this law was in place. They would have not have had surgery,

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they would not have had the hormones, and they really did have buyer's

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remorse. And this just delays.
It doesn't say after you're eighteen, okay,

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let's I want to do this and
you can go down that path with

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your own desires. But you know, right now, my understanding, nobody

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in the state is doing the gender
surgery. But you know this bill is

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going to prevent that that if someone
was going to move in that direction like

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other states have, it's not gonna
be able to do it. Do you

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have a sense as we sent here
this Friday afternoon, the Governor Mike Dwine's

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gonna sign it or not? What
is your crystal ball? Tell you?

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I spoke to him a couple of
days ago about this bill, and I

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know he has a lot of reservations. The governor, as you know,

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truly looks after the children in the
state, and I think he's gonna do

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what his conscience says, or he
may just not do anything. And you

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know, ten days after it's given
to him, it just becomes law without

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a signature, And I'm not really
sure what he do at this point.

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Senator Steve Hoffman, do you have
the votes to overturn the governor's a veto

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if he decides to veto this?
Do you have the votes to overturn that?

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Correct? The boat the House and
Senate do. But there's also some

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people will at times will flip their
vote because they don't want to. They

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don't want to do it. Override
is that they don't feel that it rises

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to that level. You know,
we the House over rowed the smoking ban

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earlier this week, and we'll see
if the Senate takes that up. But

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as the vote count goes, we
had enough to override the veto are you

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comfortable when you go to bed at
night and that your head hits the pillow?

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Are you comfortable you did the right
thing? I think so, you

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know, delaying this till a child
can truly make their own decision, I

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think is the right thing to protect
them and and and so that they don't

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have buyer's remorse. And so if
I know there's lots of tom boys,

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that the term was tom boyce years
and years decades ago, that you're a

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tomboy, that some girls want to
do boy type things, and some boys

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want to do girl type things.
They're human type things, they're not gender

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specific. And are you you've been
around a while. I'm shocked that this

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is an issue. I mean,
if somebody had told me five years ago

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that lawmakers would have to get together
to make sure that teenage boys and girls

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aren't given permanent changes to their genitelia
based upon hormones and or surgery. I

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would not have thought this is possible
that somehow there'd be a large group of

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people, generally with a multicolored hair, screaming, hollering and shouting about you

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and those who don't understand health needs
of a child. How do you separate

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in your mind the idea that this
has suddenly become an issue with Statistically,

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it's about er point one percent of
gender dysphoria, but according to some polling,

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twenty five percent of high school boys
and girls in Ohio are uncertain about

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their own sex, their own gender, their own sexuality. The whole culture

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is filled with sexual ideations every day
in a regular basis. TikTok, etc.

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Tells girls to be shameful of their
own bodies, and it tells them

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to have these stupid challenges. And
we live in a society where I can't

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believe this is even an issue to
be discussed or approved by the legislature.

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Say that a sixteen year old boy
or girl cannot take a permanent type hormonal

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therapy that'll change what they are,
and that it's almost impossible to move back

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five or ten years later from a
childish decision. You probably, Senator,

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did things when you were fourteen,
fifteen, sixteen years old that you look

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back on and say, man,
that was stupid. I know I've done

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things in my life as a teenager. I'm saying, my god, that

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was stupid, and I can't believe
I did that. And so do you

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see yourself as a lawmaker more or
less overriding the opinion of a parent and

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a children's hospital because some critics might
say you know best, how would you

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respond to that? You know,
I've heard that criticism, and you know,

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I don't know how we got to
this point. I agree with you

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that that I never foresaw this,
you know, almost fifty eight years old.

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I never foresaw something like this.
Whatever happened, But you know,

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growing up, they were you know, they were tomboys, and people dealt

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with it. And I think it's
a difficult situation for everybody, from the

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parents to the children, to the
doctors to the hospital. So, you

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know, as the General Assembly,
it feels we need to protect the children

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to just say there's a pause to
your appropriate appropriate age to make that decision.

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And isn't it fair to say that
the culture is telling teenage boys and

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girls that to go through this hormonal
therapy and then eventually surgery is normal and

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natural. It is something that you
should do so that the real person can

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come out. And I'm listening to
these arguments, i'mthing, well, if

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the real person is going to come
out, can you wait till you're eighteen,

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nineteen or twenty to make that decision? And the activists say no,

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that if a mother or father in
a hospital say, okay, this child

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is fourteen years old, they suffer
from a hormonal dysfunction of one type genderness

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for you, and we're going to
begin to process of hormonally changing their their

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DNA in a sense which cannot be
done, and that we're gonna make it

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a big political issue and beat Senator
Steve Huffman over the head with it.

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You would have thought, what world
do I live in? Here? Again?

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I agree with you. I ever
thought we would get to this spot,

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and uh, you know, we
just have to keep moving on.

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And uh, you know, I
think, uh a lot of these negative

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social things. You know, people
keep looking at the General Assembly and emphasizing

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on but I think we need to
also look at the good things we do,

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look at the three point one billion
dollar tax cut. We put in

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all the money we're giving to public
education at choice. The General Assembly does

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does a lot of good things,
and uh, sometimes the media just likes

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to talk about the more controversial stone. You know, the media is not

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on your side when it comes to
hormonal therapy and generous for you, and

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you understand they think you're small town
lawmakers. I don't know what the hell's

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going on, but I'd put up
with the media and their criticism. Secondly,

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and lastly, about a minute remaining, there's a headline in the Inquiry

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this morning, Ohio lawmakers, that
means you deadlocked on changes to recreational marijuana.

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The Senate passed it. I had
the Governor on Tuesday or Wednesday and

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he said one percent. I'm on
board with the Senate and the House is

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doing nothing. Is the headline accurate? Are you deadlocked on changes to recreational

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marijuana? Well, the speaker who
spoke and he was going to get home

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and we weren't going to do anything, but hopefully come January we'll be able

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to get something. It's look,
the Senate is not looking to get rid

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of recreational The people have spoken to
that. We're trying to do some things

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around the edge of public smoking.
I don't want to sit at a ball

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game of some guy smoking a joint
next to my tan. You know,

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open containers and cars, different life, see things. Twelve plants, twelve

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plants. We're trying a lot of
things. We're trying to do is to

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discourage the black market and have a
productive and safe for the citizens of Ohio.

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Because right now, as we sit
here this Friday afternoon, the state

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issue too past, which means that
I can walk around downtown Cincinnati, wherever

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you can smoke a cigarette, you
can smoke a joint right now, and

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right now, I can grow marijuana
in my home right now, and you

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can grow it, you can possess
it now. You can't buy it now.

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You can't buy it for nine months, and that's just driving people to

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the to the black market. And
we were trying to make it effective immediately,

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and you should go to the medical
dispensaries where we know there's good quality

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products. You would be able to
buy it now. So we're going to

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keep working on this. I spoke
to the government again earlier this week,

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and I know the Senate and the
Governor's cater to get this dat as soon

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as we can. Can you put
up with all the criticisms from the transgender

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crowd with three kinds of colored hair? Can you put up with that?

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I can't. It was an interesting
day the other day because on one side

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of the Senate was hearings off the
transgender and on all the other side was

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Marijuana Committee discussing that. So there's
an eclected group. In a few years

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back. Could you have imagined Ohio
overwhelmingly legalizing marijuana recreationally and uh a bill

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in front of you which would permit
and allow transgender rights and boys to play

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girls sports. Would you have thought, what world am I living in?

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I would agree, you know,
I would look around and think I was

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in California? But where the hell
am I? Never thought this is impossible?

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All right, we're Senator, good
luck in the future. We'll see

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what happens. We're going to try
to find out today Monday if the Governor's

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going to sign it. In the
past he has opposed it, but it

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appears that there's enough votes to override
the governor's veto either way. But once

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again, Senator Steve Huffman, Merry
Christmas, Happy New Year, and keep

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doing what you're doing. Senator,
thank you very much. You take care

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of Bill. Merry Christmas all too, God bless America. Thank you very

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much. Senator. Right, let's
continue with more. And no one here

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or anywhere wants anything bad to happen
to any kid who believes that their heart

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and soul is in a different body
than their mind can conjure. And that

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is that. I want nothing bad
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female, that's suddenly their male,
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perplexing issue. In the past,
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become like a human right. So
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