1 00:00:09,519 --> 00:00:14,519 Stream episode. I think that we're gonna put out almost season two. By 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,920 the way, season two starts when the draft happens, so season two starts 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,800 on Thursday. I think this is gonna be the last episode of season one. 4 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,000 Is this lost? What we might be? Yeah? I think we're 5 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,879 the island is moving. We are fully in purgatory. I'm with Adam Oslin, 6 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,759 I'm Chuck Mockler. I hope everyone's doing well. You're probably not watching 7 00:00:34,759 --> 00:00:37,240 because you're at work, like some of us are maybe supposed to be. 8 00:00:37,679 --> 00:00:43,359 But if you missed it, the Clippers have traded away Marcus Morris, a 9 00:00:43,439 --> 00:00:49,679 mere coffee and the thirtieth pick to acquire Malcolm Brogden. Adam, I'll just 10 00:00:49,759 --> 00:00:53,799 go to you initial thoughts. How are we feeling? The bad man is 11 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:59,159 gone and some people's eyes are we feeling initially? First of all, I 12 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:03,920 think we should shows of respect to Marcus Morris, who obviously had a miserable 13 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,079 second half of last season. But let's not act like he wasn't a very 14 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,400 good Clipper and they wouldn't have gotten pasted or they would have been able to 15 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:15,000 get past the Dallas Mavericks without him and those seven three pointers in Game seven. 16 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,799 He played admirably during those playoffs. I thought he did a lot of 17 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:23,760 the dirty work in twenty twenty one for this squad when Kawhi went down, 18 00:01:23,879 --> 00:01:27,400 Marcus was good against the Phoenix Suns, picking up his scoring. Overall, 19 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,519 yeah, they weren't able to when it went ring with Marcus Morris, but 20 00:01:30,599 --> 00:01:34,359 he certainly wasn't the reason. It was just a lot of bad luck here 21 00:01:34,359 --> 00:01:38,840 and there, and Marcus, I think overall, should be remembered fondly for 22 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,680 his Clippers tenure. I hope he's not too much recency bias from the last 23 00:01:44,799 --> 00:01:47,959 you know, six months. Yeah, like the year where it was just 24 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Reggie and Morris, it was like, what else are we going to do 25 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,079 here? Like they tried to put They did all they could. When Morris 26 00:01:56,159 --> 00:01:59,640 was good those first couple of years, it was fantastic he you know, 27 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,480 I remember one of the first things he did was basically say Nick Patune should 28 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,439 start for me because I'm not playing well. So there was more good than 29 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,639 bad for Morris. The bad just happened really quickly right at the end when 30 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:16,000 the Clippers needed some good and a combination of maybe some stubbornness by the coaching 31 00:02:16,039 --> 00:02:22,680 staff. But that being said, this feels like a win for the Clippers. 32 00:02:23,719 --> 00:02:28,599 Everyone wanted Marcus Morris gone because of what was happening Malcolm Brogden. Yes, 33 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:31,960 there's injuries and things like that, but it just I don't know. 34 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,080 I'm happy. I'm not like saying this puts the Clippers in some upper echelon 35 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,000 of contender status that they weren't in before. But it does make them a 36 00:02:40,039 --> 00:02:46,360 little bit better. Yeah, I think Malcolm Brogden bringing him in. He 37 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:51,360 was a guy who was likely sought after last season by the Clippers. The 38 00:02:51,439 --> 00:02:55,400 Boston Celtics made it happen. He sacrificed with them. He became their six 39 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:59,680 man. He won six Man of the Year. It could have been between 40 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,319 him him and Norman Powell had he not gotten hurt down the stretch of the 41 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,280 season. But Brogden is a very solid point guard that could also play a 42 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,360 shooting guard because of its size. He's six four. He's a very good 43 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,080 defender. I always thought the Milwaukee Bucks, while it turned out to be 44 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,080 the right move in retrospect because they got Drew Holliday when they didn't match the 45 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:23,479 deal or they didn't want to pay Malcolm Brogden and they did that signing trade 46 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:27,319 with Indiana. I thought that was a giant mistake by them. I thought 47 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,039 that was gonna inevitably lead to them losing Jannis Denni Coopo and showing that they 48 00:03:31,039 --> 00:03:35,400 were going on the cheap. Now there in a championship, things fell their 49 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:38,759 way. Kevin Durant's foot was on the line in twenty one. The rest 50 00:03:38,879 --> 00:03:42,759 is history. But Malcolm Brogden talent wise, and he does have some injury 51 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,280 concerns, but talent wise, when he's out there on the court, he 52 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,879 is one of the better playmakers, one of the better scores. He's still 53 00:03:50,919 --> 00:03:54,120 got plenty of wiggle he's thirty years of age, but explosiveness getting downhill, 54 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:59,080 getting to the basket. He was a stud in that serious in the second 55 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:01,639 round against the phil Nolphia seventy six ers that they ended up winning in seven 56 00:04:01,719 --> 00:04:08,919 games. Malcolm Brogden in that series sixteen points for the Boston Celtics slash Last 57 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,919 playoffs, forty four percent from the field, fifty two from the outside. 58 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,600 I really think part of the reason they ended up losing in the Eastern Conference 59 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:24,000 Finals to Miami was because Brodden got hurt in Game one with that right I 60 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:29,040 think it was a tendon partial tear in his right arm. They probably win 61 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,680 that series that ended up going seven if Malcolm Brogden was right. So he's 62 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,959 that impactful of a player. Yeah, and it's I'm just excited to see 63 00:04:38,959 --> 00:04:41,480 what it looks like. We got a guy who can play multiple guard positions. 64 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,160 Like you mentioned, locker room wise, I'm not. I don't really 65 00:04:46,199 --> 00:04:48,839 know a whole bunch about his locker room tendencies. I hope it's good. 66 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,680 If it's bad, I don't know that would suck. But this feels like 67 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,680 addition by subtraction. I hate that term. But like, let's talk about 68 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:04,240 kind of lose a mirror and the pick. We talked about Morris. Obviously, 69 00:05:04,319 --> 00:05:08,480 I don't think anyone's really upset about losing Morris. However you might feel 70 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,839 about him losing the pick. It's the thirtieth pick. We had Toemare on 71 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,160 the show a couple of weeks ago, and he Tomas Arley, who totally 72 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,720 nailed it. He said that he thought the Clippers would maybe trade out from 73 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,399 the first round, and they did so. Shout out to Jim Are forgetting 74 00:05:20,439 --> 00:05:24,399 that right about me like a month ago. I thought, what's the point 75 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:28,399 of keeping a pick. You're trying to win a championship right now, We'll 76 00:05:28,439 --> 00:05:33,240 give Adam as credit to Adam and Toemare called it. Yeah, we don't 77 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,399 have that's that was gonna be a guaranteed spot for the Clippers, and number 78 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,319 thirty was not going to play for the Clippers next year. I just don't 79 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,720 or probably the year after it. It's just not going to happen. They 80 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,199 don't have to use that contract. Trading a mirror I think sucks more from 81 00:05:48,199 --> 00:05:53,560 a sentimental and word play perspective. If you watch local broadcasts and love Brian 82 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:58,279 seamans puns for a mere coffee, but like they tried with the mirror, 83 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:01,720 if you think he should have got more playing time, I totally get that. 84 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,519 But it feels like the Roco situation. If we have a guy who 85 00:06:05,519 --> 00:06:12,439 should get more playing time but isn't gonna be played by the team, why 86 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,399 not trade him, right if nothing's going to change, If a Mere's playing 87 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:17,959 time isn't going up, it's not exactly like this was the steal of the 88 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:25,360 part of the draft, you know, losing thirty I don't feel like great 89 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:28,040 about it, but I'm not mad at the deal. Overall, it feels 90 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,199 like a completely fair situation for the Clippers trying to get off of Marcus Morris. 91 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,680 It makes sense, and that last year, I think Lucas Han brought 92 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,519 this up. The Celtics trade picked number twenty nine, yeah, to get 93 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:46,079 over there when he was twenty nine. Now the Clippers trade picked thirty now 94 00:06:46,079 --> 00:06:50,560 that he's thirty a year older, to get him. It makes sense. 95 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:55,360 You're a team trying to win it all right now, depending on what happens 96 00:06:55,439 --> 00:06:57,879 with future moves. I know there's a lot of rumors out there. We'll 97 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:01,480 get to them all. But if you are in win now, championship or 98 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,959 bust mode, you got to bring in as much talent as you can, 99 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:09,879 especially at positions of need where they haven't been able to figure out the point 100 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:14,360 guard position. And this also gives them an option of moving everyone up in 101 00:07:14,399 --> 00:07:16,720 the starting lineup. If they were able to keep Russell Westbrook, if they 102 00:07:16,759 --> 00:07:20,800 did bring in CP three, who knows, maybe Malcolm Brogden is at the 103 00:07:20,839 --> 00:07:25,600 two, yeah, and then Cohi is at the four, like we speculated 104 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:28,800 could happen at times this summer. And you brought up the number before but 105 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:30,959 I think it was around thirty percent of the time last season. He was 106 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,920 playing powerful ward already. But if they end up with he and Paul George 107 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:42,000 and the two on three connection era continues here, do they go with a 108 00:07:42,079 --> 00:07:46,279 small, big lineup more often? I think that's just the flexibility that Brogden 109 00:07:46,439 --> 00:07:49,720 brings because you can play multiple positions you speak to We don't know what he's 110 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:55,480 like in the locker room. I think it's telling that he was willing to 111 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,800 sacrifice and come off the bench embrace it win six Man of the Year when 112 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,439 he had been starting throughout the majority of his career. But he knew the 113 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,399 situation with the Boston Celtics, they were also in a win now mode. 114 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:11,839 That was the most talented team obviously he's played for, and to his credit, 115 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:15,759 he went six minut of the year because he's also shooting forty four percent 116 00:08:15,879 --> 00:08:20,920 from three, so he was getting more open shots. And I thought I 117 00:08:20,959 --> 00:08:26,319 read this earlier, but he was only second to Steph Curry when it came 118 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,000 to pull up threes this season, and he shot forty four percent on those 119 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,120 as well. So they love sensational three point shooting numbers. If the listeners 120 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:43,320 are watchers remember the John Wall era. Looks there is no connection to this 121 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,600 in John Wall outside of the position. Maybe, But I think this is 122 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,159 a great move for the Clippers. This is something that I'm sure they've been 123 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,000 looking at for a while, that they've had their eye on someone like Malcolm 124 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,200 Brogden and him specifically, but to do so, giving up the thirtieth pick, 125 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,039 giving up Marcus Moores will be sad to see a mere coffee go. 126 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:09,840 We will not forget the January he had a couple of years ago where he 127 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:15,840 was the team's best player, holding things together, the comeback victory against Doc 128 00:09:15,919 --> 00:09:18,960 Rivers in the Philadelphia seventy six ers where he had the big bucket down the 129 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,639 stretch of that ball game, a mere coffee, And yeah, it will 130 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,519 be sad not hearing all the punch with Bryant Seaman anymore. But he also 131 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:33,159 made his mark as a Clipper and was in under the radar fan favorite at 132 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,279 times that people just loved to root for. But it was a log jam 133 00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:39,159 at that position. It was always gonna be hard to get minutes. We 134 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,679 knew that coming into this past year, and he didn't play well like That's 135 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,960 what sucks to like when a mere played it was not ideal, I guess 136 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,240 would be. You could, maybe in a similar fashion to Robert Covington though, 137 00:09:54,279 --> 00:09:58,559 when he really struggled early on getting spot minutes here and there. I 138 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,480 think it's just hard to catch a rhyth when you don't know when you're going 139 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,120 to be playing, how much you're going to be playing, how you're going 140 00:10:03,159 --> 00:10:07,960 to be used. That's a difficult situation, especially for a younger player as 141 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:13,440 opposed to somebody like Robert. Yeah, you know, on the younger side 142 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,200 relatively the Clippers. He's a young guy. Yeah, and you look at 143 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,240 his numbers, thirty eight percent from the floor, twenty seven percent from three, 144 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:26,360 not a lot of attempts. But it just wasn't It wasn't really there 145 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,879 for him this year, and it sucks to lose. But I don't know 146 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:35,320 this. I don't understand how you cannot be somewhat excited about this trade. 147 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,399 Well, somewhat excited feels like the perfect amount. I wouldn't be over the 148 00:10:39,399 --> 00:10:41,679 moon, but I would be. Oh, the Clippers got a little bit 149 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,679 better for the window that they have right now. I think it could be 150 00:10:45,759 --> 00:10:48,720 significant, and it really just comes down to health. I know, We've 151 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:52,120 heard this over and over again, and they're bringing in another guy who has 152 00:10:52,639 --> 00:10:56,279 been injury prone. He had the plantar fasciidas a few years ago. He 153 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,440 had the achilles injury. His last season with the Indiana Pacers, we played 154 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,000 just thirty six games. You know. Last season he played sixty seven, 155 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,559 but then unfortunately went out in the Eastern Conference finals and was playing limited minutes 156 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,720 after the right arm injury. So there's reasons to be concerned healthwise. But 157 00:11:13,759 --> 00:11:16,080 when you look at what they gave up for the potential of Malcolm brov did 158 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,000 when he's right, it's obviously a no brainer in a great move for this 159 00:11:20,159 --> 00:11:26,360 organization. Yeah, and you look at the window like you have to do 160 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:30,120 it. You have to save a little bit of you know, maybe tie 161 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:33,080 saving saving him from himself a little bit when it comes to working on kind 162 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,039 of locker room vibes and everything like that. He was in a weird position, 163 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,360 I think too. We got some questions in the chat on YouTube, 164 00:11:41,919 --> 00:11:46,519 said Glad muk is out, but what's next for Gordon or Powell? Do 165 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:52,039 we keep both? I think Gordon's guaranteed salary marks in like a week or 166 00:11:52,039 --> 00:11:56,360 so, that's when it's twenty six, Yeah, something like that. That's 167 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,279 when his becomes guaranteed. I think they would probably lean keeping more over Gordon, 168 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,600 but I have no idea. This also might not be the first move. 169 00:12:05,159 --> 00:12:09,080 I don't think this is this might be the only move. I mean, 170 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,200 like this is it feels like there's something more happening. I don't know. 171 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,360 We're gonna talk about it tomorrow, but does this Do you think this 172 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,759 is the end of the Clippers moves? No, especially because of some of 173 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:24,440 the rumors that are out there regarding CP three, regarding Paul George, we 174 00:12:24,519 --> 00:12:30,639 know they work in stealth and typically what's being reported unless it's imminent that the 175 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,799 deal is about to get done, like we saw with Sham's earlier today, 176 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:37,600 you know, there aren't a lot of murmurs. There's not a lot of 177 00:12:37,639 --> 00:12:41,799 scuttle. But you like to say with the Clippers, that ends up coming 178 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,360 to fruition with this front office because people just don't have the intel. They 179 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:48,440 don't leak, they don't talk a lot. We saw a lot of markets 180 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,919 go down in the death Marcus Morris trade. That was everyone was like okay, 181 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,360 But that also could have been because the other team was talking because the 182 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,759 Lakers were involved. Also, it was that arms race at the end of 183 00:13:01,799 --> 00:13:05,759 the trade deadline to see who gets Marcus Morris at the time back in what 184 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:09,840 was that twenty twenty now, so it's hard to know what's real and what 185 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,639 isn't. I do have faith in this front office. I think Lawrence Franks, 186 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,279 president of Basketball Operations, just a couple of years removed from winning Executive 187 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:20,399 of the Years, should give you that faith, should give you a lot 188 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:24,679 of confidence in the moves they're going to make that they realized at the end 189 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,399 of this season and talking about how the regular season has to be more respected. 190 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:33,720 I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but they know where their weaknesses lie. 191 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,879 So I don't think they're done, especially because when you have a lot of 192 00:13:37,879 --> 00:13:43,360 guys on one year deals and you still have somewhat of a log jam. 193 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,720 Not having a mere coffee, not having Marcus Moore's okay, that opens things 194 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:50,799 up more for batoom and Robert Covington, But we don't know Rocos and Batoum. 195 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,279 They're both on one year deals right the rest of the way, So 196 00:13:54,360 --> 00:14:00,480 they have a lot of tradeable expiring contracts on this Clippers team that could be 197 00:14:00,519 --> 00:14:05,720 sought after in deals that could be sweeteners. So I don't think they're done. 198 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,679 I don't think this is going to be the final, you know, 199 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,279 shoot a drop for this team. But we'll see. We might find out 200 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:15,240 a lot in the next twenty four hours here. Yeah, we're gonna be 201 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:18,399 doing a stream tomorrow at like six, who knows when the draft actually starts, 202 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:24,120 we'll be talking about the Clippers moves. Where are we I don't where 203 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:28,759 are we at on the the PG stuff? Do we think that's real at 204 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:31,519 all? Do we think PG? I know mark Stein reported it. You 205 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,320 tweeted out some stuff about how mark Stein also talked about how kauh I wasn't 206 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,279 going to resign with the Clips, and then I think an hour later he 207 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,799 put pen to paper for the Clippers. So like, I don't know. 208 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:48,320 And there was a report that the Clippers are kind of leaving opposing teams at 209 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,000 the minimum, feeling like they would include Paul George, Like is it just 210 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:58,639 pockets sand? Is it all scuttle? But it doesn't mean anything, you 211 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:03,240 know. I don't want to be too harsh on mark Stein because I know 212 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:09,200 he's an accredited reporter, But if you just look at the last five years, 213 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:15,480 who were the guys that dropped the big stories. It's either Shams, 214 00:15:15,639 --> 00:15:20,720 it's Chris Haynes, or it's Adrian Wardsnowski. I can't think of the last 215 00:15:20,759 --> 00:15:24,039 time. It's like saying, Jannis and Dennik Kompo, you just sound smarter 216 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:31,000 if you can pull it off somehow. But I can't remember the last time 217 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,039 Mark Stein broke a story. That would be pretty significant if the move was 218 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:41,159 Paul George for the number three, which ends up becoming Scoot. I want 219 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,919 to say it's more about reading tea leaves like we all have since Portland started 220 00:15:45,919 --> 00:15:48,960 to dangle their pick and we're looking for a small forward. It was just 221 00:15:48,039 --> 00:15:52,519 connecting dots who was trying to see how the Clippers could fit in here. 222 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:58,960 But it's not to say he's wrong that the Clippers aren't necessarily gauging and doing 223 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,159 their due diligence of what a player's value is, because I think that's pretty 224 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:08,039 standard. During the summertime, you got everybody is like the Portland trail Blazers, 225 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:14,840 not just having yeah or slamming the phone down whenever there's someone's calling to 226 00:16:14,919 --> 00:16:18,840 ask about Damian Lillard. That's a very unique situation, and given the answering 227 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,879 history of both Kauai and Paul George, you could rationalize it like, Okay, 228 00:16:23,919 --> 00:16:27,480 we can't afford to have two guys that are this injury prone. What 229 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,039 if we traded one of them and it just so happens the Portland trail Blazers 230 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,559 might be interested in making a deal with one of these with their top pick. 231 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:41,039 I don't know still how reasonable it is to believe that Charlotte's not gonna 232 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,440 take scoot, as we heard from Lambury last week. I know Adrian Warzerowski 233 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:49,320 did bring up a report yesterday talking about how on Brandon Miller, who, 234 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,039 by the way, earlier today there was a video of him saying his goat 235 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,080 is Paul George, which makes sense. He's six nine. He probably models 236 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,480 his game after him. But someone pointed his age too. If you look 237 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:06,000 at his age, he grew up watching kind of I don't want about peak 238 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:10,480 Paul George, but pretty close to peak Paul George when he was coming up. 239 00:17:10,519 --> 00:17:15,240 So I just think Paul George was the three sixty right before he got 240 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:22,200 hurt against OKAYC like Paul George is still happening. I don't want to act 241 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,640 like he's some washed player. He's Joe injury prone. Right when he's out 242 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,680 there on the court, he can still do everything. There was the dunk 243 00:17:29,759 --> 00:17:34,400 last season that was eerily similar to the dunk on Birdman in twenty thirteen. 244 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,480 When you did the side by side, it was the exact same elevation, 245 00:17:37,839 --> 00:17:42,920 the exact same dunk from PG thirteen. So you know, I understand why 246 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,640 a team will want to pull him in, like the Portland Trailblazers, if 247 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,559 they're hell bent on trying to get Dame help and competing and giving him one 248 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:55,160 last shot to win a championship in Portland before they end up moving him, 249 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:00,039 which I do think is inevitable at some point. But I don't know if 250 00:18:00,319 --> 00:18:04,480 from the Clippers point of view, it's worth giving up on Paul George right 251 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:10,160 now, even if you are getting a Scoot with the third pick, because 252 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,799 does that get you closer to winning a championship this season? And now we 253 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,079 see the move from Malcolm Brogden and it looks like, okay, that would 254 00:18:17,079 --> 00:18:19,119 mean even less time on the court for Scoot. You know, just uh, 255 00:18:19,839 --> 00:18:23,640 there's myself, yeah, like Chris Paul and stuff too, Like it's 256 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,759 like, what what what also Westbrook? Can they resign him? Still, 257 00:18:29,079 --> 00:18:33,200 there's a lot in the air. I think Law reported basically like if we 258 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,880 got Chris Paul, we wouldn't get Russ because Russ was going to take a 259 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,599 little bit over the minimum. But that was before kind of this Chris Paul 260 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,960 stuff started. So I'm not sure if there'd be money for both. I'm 261 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,640 not one hundred percent sure on that. I mean, I would not I 262 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,039 would not be upset if we don't have both of Russell Westbrook and Chris Paul. 263 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,759 But it seems like it would maybe be Chris Paul. It would seem 264 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:57,039 like a lot of insurance policies at that position. All of a sudden, 265 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:02,799 Okay, guy goes down. Curatively, Malcolm Brogden isn't able to go more 266 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:04,759 than sixty seven games like this season, Okay, but we have CP three 267 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:08,200 and in a limited roll off the bench, you know, is he able 268 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,880 to stay healthier longer. He had a very solid regular season for them and 269 00:19:14,039 --> 00:19:18,079 was doing fine in the playoffs before he went down. That he did get 270 00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:22,720 exposed at times with the Clippers looking for him or leaving him open. He 271 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,000 didn't shoot the ball well from the outside with the Phoenix Suns. But it's 272 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:30,440 hard to tell exactly what that ultimate plan is right now with the Clippers because 273 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,839 of this Paul George situation like that could change a lot of things. That 274 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,880 could turn into a ripple effect or a domino effect where all of a sudden, 275 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,599 are they going to blow it up? Are they going to trade Kawhi 276 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,759 Leonard Chaos? Yeah, if we go off what Lawrence Frank said in his 277 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:52,319 exit interview after this season, it was all about investing in those guys for 278 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,559 the long term. We expect them to be here for the long term. 279 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Things change though the right deal comes along. You have to be flexible. 280 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,000 We saw that with Blake Griffin, we saw that with Tobias Harris. So 281 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,759 it's not as simple as just going off of you know, I agree he 282 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,640 was sincere and meant it when he said it. But if Portland really is 283 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,400 willing to give up the three and Scoot's gonna be there, you have to 284 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,039 at least think about that. You gotta think about it, like yeah, 285 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,240 And a lot of people were saying, like, oh, the Clippers would 286 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,599 only make that trade if Scoots for sure available at three. You're not going 287 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,240 to know that until Charlotte makes their pick, you know what I mean, 288 00:20:29,279 --> 00:20:33,119 Like, it's not I just don't believe in like, oh, we swear 289 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:38,960 this other team's gonna take this guy. Charlotte should be in no position to 290 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,480 taking best fit over best player available. When you're this bad, you should 291 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,079 always go best player available. I know they have Lamello. I would still 292 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,759 try to make that work. I think the King still made a mistake trading 293 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:56,319 Tyrese Haliburton long term versus bonus, even after the season that they had. 294 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,240 I think they're going to end up regretting it eventually, just because they didn't 295 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:04,319 want to have a glut of guards or another guy competing for the ball with 296 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,640 Daron Fox and Davion Mitchell. I don't think that's the way to go when 297 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,920 you're a team that's in the dregs and the Charlotte Hornets, all right, 298 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,880 they have the number two pick for a reason. Now, maybe Brandon Miller 299 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,720 turns out to be a stud and he is the Knicks Paul George. But 300 00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:25,240 I would take the most sure thing at the number two pick, and that 301 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,559 is I think Scoot Henderson. In most drafts, everybody will be talking about 302 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:34,480 him number one. But we have this trend formative player in Victor in women 303 00:21:34,559 --> 00:21:38,640 Yama, who's coming out this season, a guy like we've never seen before. 304 00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:42,000 Otherwise, all the talk is about Scoot, right, So I don't 305 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:48,119 understand why Charlotte wouldn't. I understand it is a fit thing with Lamello. 306 00:21:48,279 --> 00:21:52,319 But when you're that bad, you just have to get the most talented guy. 307 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,039 Just get the guy who's good. Like, just do that. What 308 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,839 do you think? I'm interested in what you think, Charles reading the Clippers 309 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:07,079 rumors, what Mark Stein said about them gauging offers or value on Paul George, 310 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:11,319 and whether or not they should or would pull the trigger on a trade 311 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,440 with Portland if it's the number three, if it's inevitably getting scooted in Anthony 312 00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:21,640 Simmons, I've gone back and forth on this. I think I was talking 313 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,720 to Brian Colin about this. I did the clip set pot on Sunday, 314 00:22:25,759 --> 00:22:27,599 and I said, like, up until the Chris Paul news, I was 315 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:33,039 having a great offseason. I was just willfully ignorant of any horrible moves that 316 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,200 might come into play for the Clippers. But now I've been thinking about this 317 00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:41,640 Chris Paul George and the number three trade, which I talked about. We've 318 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:48,720 talked about it before, but man, if you can guarantee to get Simons 319 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,279 and it has to be Scooted, I don't like Brandon Miller. I would 320 00:22:52,319 --> 00:22:56,480 be like, right, like we got another four. I guess, like, 321 00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:02,680 I'm not sure he's gonna start if it's Simon's Scoot, and then there 322 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,960 has to be another contract thrown in right for the money to match. So 323 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,519 it's either Nerk. I don't think we're getting Shade and Sharp. Everyone really 324 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:11,319 is high on him because he might be good. So I think it would 325 00:23:11,319 --> 00:23:17,519 probably be Nerk Simons and the three pick four PG. I mean, if 326 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,640 and only if that pick is Scoot, would I be into it. If 327 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,200 it's not Scoot, I'm kind of out. You're adding a guy who is 328 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,559 a position in the Clippers need. He's a guy that Clippers fans would fall 329 00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:32,440 in love with. I don't watch college basketball, well, I don't watch 330 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,920 Ignite basketball, but I've obviously been watching highlights the past couple of days. 331 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:41,359 Clippers fans would absolutely fall in love with Scoot. He's basically like, he's 332 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,599 huge. He plays like Patrick Beverley, but with more skill and athleticism is 333 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:52,000 kind of how I feel about his game, And I think if you're Balmer, 334 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,680 if Scoot becomes the man, you have this new generation bridging to the 335 00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:02,759 old in quotes because it is so three years and your eras over one with 336 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:06,640 Kawhi Leonard, right like, you have this kind of passing of the torch 337 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,759 thing that might happen. So I think as of two nineteen PM on June 338 00:24:11,799 --> 00:24:17,799 twenty first, I would do Scoot Simons and whatever the filler is for PG, 339 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,920 I think I would do it, But that could also maybe change it 340 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,200 two twenty one, So I don't know because right like, they's been bad 341 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,799 for both things where I'm like, I wouldn't. It'd be a really weird 342 00:24:30,319 --> 00:24:33,839 trippy way for the two one three year to end, but it would feel 343 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,400 a little exciting that it's not a full tear down. It's not even like 344 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,960 a quasi tear down. We traded PG for the number three pick, and 345 00:24:42,039 --> 00:24:45,720 we're getting a guy who theoretically supposed to be the man and then whatever other 346 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:49,480 pieces we move around. So two nineteen I'm holding strong I would do the 347 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:56,079 trade within thirty seconds. You can really talk yourself into it or out of 348 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,920 it when it comes to this. It's not an easy decision, Yeah, 349 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,359 because I think the excitement surrounding the draft, and I've been talking about this 350 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,519 for years just because I have a memory or at least look things up. 351 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,880 Everybody gets talked about on draft night like they have all star potential. Total 352 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,359 back a ten year window from two thousand and six to twenty sixteen. I 353 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,359 say it all the time. That's one hundred top ten draft picks. There 354 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:29,400 have been about twenty seven All Stars coming out of top ten picks. There 355 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,400 have been more busts or guys who never lived up to their potential than there 356 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,640 were all stars. Everybody says this is a sure thing, and maybe it 357 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,160 is. With Scoot. I think he's a lot like a young Baron Davis 358 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,319 speaking of Charlotte. To me, he looks like Baron Davis with the way 359 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,839 he moves out there, his shot, a little bit, his handle, 360 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,400 how ready he is physically for the game at this level. He's even much 361 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:02,119 stronger than Baron Davis ricks and no sense he's nineteen too. Like it's crazy. 362 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,680 Yeah, and maybe he does become their next SGA if they bring him 363 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,640 in. But I think everyone's just assuming that's what would happen, correct, 364 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,880 And I do want to go out there. You never know with potential and 365 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,680 young players. You never know what if he turned out to be injury prone, 366 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:22,519 what if he turned out to have issues from the locker room? Like, 367 00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:27,160 there's so many things that get covered up during the draft process because guys 368 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:32,880 are looking to get paid and looking to get drafted at the highest point in 369 00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:37,079 the draft I possible. So it's not as easy as just well, Paul 370 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,799 George's injury prone. We've had it with this two on three era. We're 371 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,480 souring on it. We're going to get rid of one of them. I 372 00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:48,640 don't know if it's that simple of a decision, because then does it lead 373 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:56,160 to Kawai being moved. There's no way they're not running this by Kawhi. 374 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,400 I just can't see Kawai not being asked about this. I know we joke 375 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,880 about Portland and Dame, but I think Kawhi and the Clippers have a similar 376 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,799 relationship in terms of talking to their star player. They just don't talk about 377 00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:12,200 it to other people as much. Yeah, and Paul George was recently saying 378 00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:18,680 this on a podcast that they collaborate, that he has the ear of Lawrence 379 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,759 Frank and that's been evident throughout his team Clippers. Oh shit, yeah. 380 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,720 So does this move with Malcolm Brodden though, Does it give any insight one 381 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:36,279 way or another to whether or not they would bring in Scoop, to whether 382 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,079 or not they would make that move. I don't think so. I think 383 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,920 if if the if the option was trade for Malcolm Brogden or trade for Scoot, 384 00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:47,279 and they chose trade for Malcolm Brogden, I'd be pretty bummed out. 385 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,839 I don't think this affects it. The Clippers are always trying to get better 386 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,079 out of they force these I'm not saying this is the right thing to do. 387 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,359 They force these position gluts on themselves, right. We've seen him do 388 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:02,079 it with point guards, We've seen him with power forwards, everything but the 389 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:06,319 center position. But I don't think it affects it at all. There's so 390 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,119 many have the team's even seen the new CBA yet, Because that's the other 391 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,160 crazy part is that when law told us that teams don't even have the CBA 392 00:28:14,279 --> 00:28:18,240 yet, I feel like there's no way that this is indicative of what's going 393 00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:22,279 to happen, you know what I mean? Like there are a million things 394 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:26,599 could happen between now and tomorrow night. We've got differing views from some of 395 00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:34,279 our viewers here. Race to Racy Marlin Rot, I don't know. Marlin 396 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,559 says, I'm from Fresno. I love PG, but I'm taking Scoot one 397 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,920 percent. Dennis Zapata says trading PG is no longer an option. We're going 398 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,039 all in. I love PG, and I like the potential of Scoot, 399 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:56,920 but I do find it interesting that somebody would that quickly jump off of Paul 400 00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:02,039 George, who is our pably a top seventy five player of all time, 401 00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:04,519 like he was right there. You can make the argument he's better than I 402 00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:07,480 think he's better than Damian Lillard, who made top seventy five. I think 403 00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:15,160 Damian Lillard has more accomplishments, yes, in every way, including leading teams 404 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,440 in the Eastern Conference and the Western Conference to conference finals as the number one 405 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,680 guy I know Dame has done at once when things broke their way, and 406 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,240 C. J. McCollum took over in that game seven in Denver. But 407 00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:30,279 Paul George, I don't know, his greatness is getting overlooked a little bit 408 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:34,319 here. I feel like, and maybe it's just because of the shiny thing. 409 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,920 It's the new shiny potential thing verse, something that has on the whole 410 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:48,200 disappointed Clippers fans in terms of an availability and sometimes mentality thing. How quickly 411 00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:52,880 we forget though after the twenty twenty one playoff run, everybody was tipping their 412 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,720 calf to Paul George and saying, you're the man, You're the right guy 413 00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,680 next to Kawhi Leonard. You can be the number two one on championship team 414 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,720 and at times lead is the number one. He played so well, those 415 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:11,680 game fives were historic against Utah and then against the Phoenix Suns. He did 416 00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:15,799 step up. The playoff piece stuff and making fun of him for that got 417 00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:19,079 put on the backburner. Finally, absolutely so, I just we're not that 418 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,000 far removed from that. I think he's still that same player. It's just 419 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,400 getting him on the court enough. He also so, yeah, the availability 420 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,359 thing very hard to argue with that. That's been the mark of the two 421 00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:37,000 and three era up to this point. It's yeah, well, and then 422 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,519 Marlin thinks he's a top ten player. He's responding now in the league skill 423 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,240 yes, skill wise, absolutely, does he want to be a top ten 424 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,799 player? I'm not entirely sure. I think that's and this is why I 425 00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:52,319 don't like that he has his podcast, because he just talks about shit. 426 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,519 I think it's fine to have a podcast, but I'm like, PG, 427 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,880 you're the player who everyone is like. He doesn't really seem like he has 428 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,759 that in him or whatever. You know what I mean. But I just 429 00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:07,559 I put that stuff aside from actual on court productivity, like what we saw 430 00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:11,839 in twenty twenty one, Like for Paul George and how much he has been 431 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:18,319 mopped about the podcast and certain things he have said that sounds like double speak. 432 00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:22,960 What does that matter compared to him what he actually did? It's a 433 00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:30,240 situation rationality behind it. I'm not saying there's rationality behind it. I would 434 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,960 just when you know, when he's like he's a he puts his foot in 435 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,359 his mouth, we're in the driver's seat. We feel fine. I'm fine 436 00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:38,960 with being a number like he says things were like, sure, when you 437 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,799 sit down and think about it, they makes sense. But unfortunately this is 438 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:47,079 not the sports media world we're in anymore. Well, I just want to 439 00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:51,240 know from people in the comments section, now, are you okay with having 440 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,559 worse odds to win the championship, which you'll likely have if you make that 441 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:02,640 move. Uh, with trading Paul George for Scoot feeling that they're going to 442 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:09,720 say yes, one hundred pers because we're also we're not exactly like they have 443 00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:15,079 worse chances win the championship? Sure, how much worse? Like like that's 444 00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:21,319 a discussion too, Like how much worse is it with Paul George and without 445 00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:25,160 Paul George ads Scoot Simon's nerk Like, obviously it's worse, but is it 446 00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:31,400 fifteen percent worse? Yeah? Is it twenty five? Person? Because if 447 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,720 it's not over twenty You're like, oh, some of it could just depend 448 00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:42,160 on Simon's and how much more he has in him towards whatever his ceiling is. 449 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,440 And I'm like, Simon's a lot. Well, yeah, I was 450 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,680 high on him when he came out and last season at times he looked like 451 00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:55,559 one of the most lethal scores at that age that we have seen in Sometimes 452 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,960 he could catch a heater and just be absolutely on stoppable out there. The 453 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,759 problem is defensive deficiencies. People aren't thinking about the other side of the ball, 454 00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:09,680 where Paul George is so great at with Defensively, that stuff's gonna be 455 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,440 missed. So I'm open to both. Like I said, I could talk 456 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:19,039 myself in and out of making this move. It's that difficult, and it 457 00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:22,279 may depend on who else the Clippers give up. If Terrence Man is included 458 00:33:22,279 --> 00:33:24,880 in that trade, would you want to do it? Still? No? 459 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:29,119 Because that so that's the other part. It's like there's everyone has all these 460 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:35,559 hang ups, and if Terrence Man in the because we're also getting something like 461 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,400 we're not getting just like Nerk as the filler. If you're adding Terrence Man 462 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,519 for that, because I think you have to add another contract because his extension 463 00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:47,079 kicked in, so that would hurt. I don't want to trade Terrence Man 464 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,000 for Chris Paul. I don't even think we're gonna trade for Chris Paul. 465 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000 I think that's going to be a maybe they cut him and then we just 466 00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:57,720 signed him or something. But it would be tough to lose Terrence Man. 467 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:00,319 He's a guy who everyone I'm pretty if you're watching this or who listens to 468 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:05,480 our podcasts, things should get more playing time from the Clippers. Will you 469 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:08,119 though? I want him too, but it's that Roco question of will he 470 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:12,079 actually do it? We all want these things to happen, but will it 471 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,800 happen, which is why a mere gets traded. So I think Terence would 472 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,159 maybe be a hang up for me. Losing Terence would hurt. He's one 473 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,000 of our most first little defenders. He does whatever the hell they ask him 474 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,400 to do. That would hurt, and he's gotten incrementally better each season, 475 00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,079 so that one would hurt. And he's the only good Clippers draft pick we've 476 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:36,639 kept in the last five years. Some were talking about are they going to 477 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:40,480 have to include Brandon Boston? Would he go to Boston? Would that happen 478 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,039 in this trade? And to be fair, it hasn't been fully realized yet 479 00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:51,760 or it hasn't been The trade hasn't been fully consummated. Once the team's actually 480 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,920 put out press releases, that's when it is official officials. So we're still 481 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,159 just going off of what shams or what would you include boarding in the train 482 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:10,960 for number three? Probably not? Probably not. I I am I don't 483 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,159 want to pat myself with the bat, but I feel like I'm a little 484 00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:19,079 bit more grounded when it comes to the draft that some people like. I'm 485 00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:22,840 sorry, but nothing is guaranteed like Scoot could be. I remember when Marcus 486 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,960 Smart was coming out and they were comparing him to Dwayne Wade. I'm old 487 00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:30,679 enough to remember that they thought he had the potential of Dwyane Wade. Now 488 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:38,440 he is a good player, but he's nowhere close to that right comparisons when 489 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,239 he was coming out, which I just felt so bad for Ruey. He 490 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,800 didn't want that. No one wants that people fall in love with potential so 491 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:52,840 much that they overlook what's already right in front of you at times. And 492 00:35:53,360 --> 00:36:00,159 I think Paul George is starting to become a little bit underrated. Yeah, 493 00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:04,039 I mean I think that's fair. Now, maybe after what Brandon Miller said 494 00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:13,199 today, that'll change that balances things out. But I think there's something to 495 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,760 a burden the hand. And if you still have Kawhi Leonaron on this team, 496 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,920 you want the best chance to win now, because regardless of another guy 497 00:36:23,679 --> 00:36:29,599 playing eighty two games and being healthier out there, if he's a lesser player 498 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,599 than Paul George, that still doesn't get you closer to a championship. You 499 00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:36,880 may have a better regular season, but how much further away? That's what 500 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:39,800 That's what it is, and I think it's ten percent because it's like that 501 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,880 question about upgrading Zoo. Right, remember we talked about it. We're like, 502 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,760 all right, we're paying Zoo effectively no money to be the most consistent 503 00:36:49,159 --> 00:36:52,199 player for the Clippers, and he's really good defensively. Is it worth the 504 00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:58,960 fifteen percent jumping ability for someone who gets paid three times as much? Right, 505 00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:02,320 So it's like if we're taking a five percent seven percent step back, 506 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:07,079 I'm talking like, these are actual percentages we can figure out. It's not 507 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:10,840 too bad. I'm excited for whatever the hell's going to happen, because this 508 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,639 does not feel like it's the last thing to happen. No, I didn't 509 00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:17,079 think Morris was gonna be the first guy traded, I'll tell you that much. 510 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:20,639 I thought it was gonna be Rocco. We don't play the guy. 511 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:23,960 I thought Rocco is gonna be gone. It's an easy win for the Clippers, 512 00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:29,800 given what they gave up to bring in somebody like Malcolm Broaden. It's 513 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:35,280 a big victory today Clipper Nation. This was somebody that I think a lot 514 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,280 of people had targeted last season to try to get him even before that. 515 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:45,639 It just makes sense fit wise. He's great for this team. Unfortunately, 516 00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:50,239 though he does come with injury concerns. You have to take that into account 517 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,599 too. That's how we live like that. I mean the injury things one 518 00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:57,360 more, Yeah, what's one more? Like? The injury thing sucks? 519 00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:02,280 That is obviously the biggest I think flag for Brogden Um. We'll probably see 520 00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:07,360 if kawhipg and Brogden are all on the team starting next year. I bet 521 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:15,400 we see thirty games of them all together. Fully active would be my guess, 522 00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:17,360 all of them. I'm gonna haul three of them together. I hope 523 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:23,800 for more too, but thirty doesn't feel too far off. You need injury 524 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:29,119 luck. The Denver Nuggets had a guy coming off an ACL he never missed 525 00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,840 a playoff game this year, and a guy who is still dealing with a 526 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,039 chronic back injury that could flare up at any moment, and Michael Porter Junior 527 00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:42,519 as well still stay healthy throughout the playoffs that may not happen again. Did 528 00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:47,360 you see how Doc was talking about how Michael Porter Junior was playing with rods 529 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,239 in his back, and then Michael Porter Junior's dad was like, no, 530 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,880 the fuck he is not. He absolutely is not playing that. Are playing 531 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,599 with rods and playing with your meat or whatever? Doctor? Yeah, man, 532 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:06,920 classic doc. All right, some of us are getting emails that maybe 533 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,000 we should have to answer because of his work hours, Adams, What do 534 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:16,000 we have on deck for these wonderful people. Tomorrow we're gonna talk draft, 535 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,599 even though the Clippers just lost their pick, but we'll talk more of the 536 00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:25,079 bigger picture in free agency. I'm not somebody full disclosure if you couldn't tell 537 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:30,679 by now that gets as excited as some for the NBA Draft. Maybe if 538 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:35,119 you're in San Antonio, that's very understandable. If you're in Charlotte, if 539 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:38,559 you're in Portland, could that change if the Clippers trade for Scoot? Yes, 540 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:44,280 of course, every Clippers. I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna lose my 541 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,280 mind. I might order the jersey if they draft Scoot, but the jersey 542 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,000 would say Scoot, it would not say his last name, it would just 543 00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:53,599 say Scoop. I'd go Carl tart on it. That's a new era if 544 00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:57,719 they end up doing that, where we would be entering a new era of 545 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,159 Clippers basketball, or at least a different face of the two on three now 546 00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:06,320 just the two era with Kawhi Leonards. Should they trade Paul George for him? 547 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,119 But who knows what you know, chain of events that could set off, 548 00:40:10,559 --> 00:40:14,960 so there's a lot to be discussed. We'll get to all of it 549 00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:19,280 tomorrow. Hopefully we'll have a clearer picture by then. I hope it's murdering 550 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,000 regarding this trade. I hope there's more rumors. I hope there's more rumors. 551 00:40:22,159 --> 00:40:25,239 Eric Gordon might be on the move, who knows. But yeah, 552 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,360 we'll be back with y'all tomorrow. Adam, where can these people find us? 553 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,639 And all of us on Twitter and all that good stuff. Will Opdyke 554 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,360 not here, usually here the third of the clips and dip. He's the 555 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,000 green guy. If you're watching this on YouTube, Will is not leaving us 556 00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:44,079 just because he wasn't on the last few shows. Okay, he's just busy. 557 00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:47,679 He's busy. Yeah, we love Will. We miss him, shout 558 00:40:47,679 --> 00:40:52,079 out will up Dyke. But you can find us at clippers pod on Twitter, 559 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:58,400 at clippers podcast on YouTube where this will be uploaded pretty much immediately in 560 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,559 the live section of our YouTube channel. There. I'm at follow out of 561 00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:07,079 a Chuck Where you're at? I am at Chuck Wockler on Twitter. Come 562 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:09,360 hang, it's gonna be a good time. I'm gonna be on there probably 563 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,800 way too much these next couple of days. And yeah, if we get 564 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,719 scooted, I will live stream me ordering the Scoot jersey. I make that 565 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,000 a promise. I'm somehow team Scoot. Now it's going to change in five 566 00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:25,239 minutes. But thank you everyone for hanging out. I hope you didn't get 567 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,400 fired for listening to us at work, or if you did, let us 568 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,639 know that would be pretty cool. I guess all right, we're totally worth 569 00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:34,960 it, and let's go clips