Stream episode. I think that we're gonna put out almost season two. By
the way, season two starts when the draft happens, so season two starts
on Thursday. I think this is gonna be the last episode of season one.
Is this lost? What we might be? Yeah? I think we're
the island is moving. We are fully in purgatory. I'm with Adam Oslin,
I'm Chuck Mockler. I hope everyone's doing well. You're probably not watching
because you're at work, like some of us are maybe supposed to be.
But if you missed it, the Clippers have traded away Marcus Morris, a
mere coffee and the thirtieth pick to acquire Malcolm Brogden. Adam, I'll just
go to you initial thoughts. How are we feeling? The bad man is
gone and some people's eyes are we feeling initially? First of all, I
think we should shows of respect to Marcus Morris, who obviously had a miserable
second half of last season. But let's not act like he wasn't a very
good Clipper and they wouldn't have gotten pasted or they would have been able to
get past the Dallas Mavericks without him and those seven three pointers in Game seven.
He played admirably during those playoffs. I thought he did a lot of
the dirty work in twenty twenty one for this squad when Kawhi went down,
Marcus was good against the Phoenix Suns, picking up his scoring. Overall,
yeah, they weren't able to when it went ring with Marcus Morris, but
he certainly wasn't the reason. It was just a lot of bad luck here
and there, and Marcus, I think overall, should be remembered fondly for
his Clippers tenure. I hope he's not too much recency bias from the last
you know, six months. Yeah, like the year where it was just
Reggie and Morris, it was like, what else are we going to do
here? Like they tried to put They did all they could. When Morris
was good those first couple of years, it was fantastic he you know,
I remember one of the first things he did was basically say Nick Patune should
start for me because I'm not playing well. So there was more good than
bad for Morris. The bad just happened really quickly right at the end when
the Clippers needed some good and a combination of maybe some stubbornness by the coaching
staff. But that being said, this feels like a win for the Clippers.
Everyone wanted Marcus Morris gone because of what was happening Malcolm Brogden. Yes,
there's injuries and things like that, but it just I don't know.
I'm happy. I'm not like saying this puts the Clippers in some upper echelon
of contender status that they weren't in before. But it does make them a
little bit better. Yeah, I think Malcolm Brogden bringing him in. He
was a guy who was likely sought after last season by the Clippers. The
Boston Celtics made it happen. He sacrificed with them. He became their six
man. He won six Man of the Year. It could have been between
him him and Norman Powell had he not gotten hurt down the stretch of the
season. But Brogden is a very solid point guard that could also play a
shooting guard because of its size. He's six four. He's a very good
defender. I always thought the Milwaukee Bucks, while it turned out to be
the right move in retrospect because they got Drew Holliday when they didn't match the
deal or they didn't want to pay Malcolm Brogden and they did that signing trade
with Indiana. I thought that was a giant mistake by them. I thought
that was gonna inevitably lead to them losing Jannis Denni Coopo and showing that they
were going on the cheap. Now there in a championship, things fell their
way. Kevin Durant's foot was on the line in twenty one. The rest
is history. But Malcolm Brogden talent wise, and he does have some injury
concerns, but talent wise, when he's out there on the court, he
is one of the better playmakers, one of the better scores. He's still
got plenty of wiggle he's thirty years of age, but explosiveness getting downhill,
getting to the basket. He was a stud in that serious in the second
round against the phil Nolphia seventy six ers that they ended up winning in seven
games. Malcolm Brogden in that series sixteen points for the Boston Celtics slash Last
playoffs, forty four percent from the field, fifty two from the outside.
I really think part of the reason they ended up losing in the Eastern Conference
Finals to Miami was because Brodden got hurt in Game one with that right I
think it was a tendon partial tear in his right arm. They probably win
that series that ended up going seven if Malcolm Brogden was right. So he's
that impactful of a player. Yeah, and it's I'm just excited to see
what it looks like. We got a guy who can play multiple guard positions.
Like you mentioned, locker room wise, I'm not. I don't really
know a whole bunch about his locker room tendencies. I hope it's good.
If it's bad, I don't know that would suck. But this feels like
addition by subtraction. I hate that term. But like, let's talk about
kind of lose a mirror and the pick. We talked about Morris. Obviously,
I don't think anyone's really upset about losing Morris. However you might feel
about him losing the pick. It's the thirtieth pick. We had Toemare on
the show a couple of weeks ago, and he Tomas Arley, who totally
nailed it. He said that he thought the Clippers would maybe trade out from
the first round, and they did so. Shout out to Jim Are forgetting
that right about me like a month ago. I thought, what's the point
of keeping a pick. You're trying to win a championship right now, We'll
give Adam as credit to Adam and Toemare called it. Yeah, we don't
have that's that was gonna be a guaranteed spot for the Clippers, and number
thirty was not going to play for the Clippers next year. I just don't
or probably the year after it. It's just not going to happen. They
don't have to use that contract. Trading a mirror I think sucks more from
a sentimental and word play perspective. If you watch local broadcasts and love Brian
seamans puns for a mere coffee, but like they tried with the mirror,
if you think he should have got more playing time, I totally get that.
But it feels like the Roco situation. If we have a guy who
should get more playing time but isn't gonna be played by the team, why
not trade him, right if nothing's going to change, If a Mere's playing
time isn't going up, it's not exactly like this was the steal of the
part of the draft, you know, losing thirty I don't feel like great
about it, but I'm not mad at the deal. Overall, it feels
like a completely fair situation for the Clippers trying to get off of Marcus Morris.
It makes sense, and that last year, I think Lucas Han brought
this up. The Celtics trade picked number twenty nine, yeah, to get
over there when he was twenty nine. Now the Clippers trade picked thirty now
that he's thirty a year older, to get him. It makes sense.
You're a team trying to win it all right now, depending on what happens
with future moves. I know there's a lot of rumors out there. We'll
get to them all. But if you are in win now, championship or
bust mode, you got to bring in as much talent as you can,
especially at positions of need where they haven't been able to figure out the point
guard position. And this also gives them an option of moving everyone up in
the starting lineup. If they were able to keep Russell Westbrook, if they
did bring in CP three, who knows, maybe Malcolm Brogden is at the
two, yeah, and then Cohi is at the four, like we speculated
could happen at times this summer. And you brought up the number before but
I think it was around thirty percent of the time last season. He was
playing powerful ward already. But if they end up with he and Paul George
and the two on three connection era continues here, do they go with a
small, big lineup more often? I think that's just the flexibility that Brogden
brings because you can play multiple positions you speak to We don't know what he's
like in the locker room. I think it's telling that he was willing to
sacrifice and come off the bench embrace it win six Man of the Year when
he had been starting throughout the majority of his career. But he knew the
situation with the Boston Celtics, they were also in a win now mode.
That was the most talented team obviously he's played for, and to his credit,
he went six minut of the year because he's also shooting forty four percent
from three, so he was getting more open shots. And I thought I
read this earlier, but he was only second to Steph Curry when it came
to pull up threes this season, and he shot forty four percent on those
as well. So they love sensational three point shooting numbers. If the listeners
are watchers remember the John Wall era. Looks there is no connection to this
in John Wall outside of the position. Maybe, But I think this is
a great move for the Clippers. This is something that I'm sure they've been
looking at for a while, that they've had their eye on someone like Malcolm
Brogden and him specifically, but to do so, giving up the thirtieth pick,
giving up Marcus Moores will be sad to see a mere coffee go.
We will not forget the January he had a couple of years ago where he
was the team's best player, holding things together, the comeback victory against Doc
Rivers in the Philadelphia seventy six ers where he had the big bucket down the
stretch of that ball game, a mere coffee, And yeah, it will
be sad not hearing all the punch with Bryant Seaman anymore. But he also
made his mark as a Clipper and was in under the radar fan favorite at
times that people just loved to root for. But it was a log jam
at that position. It was always gonna be hard to get minutes. We
knew that coming into this past year, and he didn't play well like That's
what sucks to like when a mere played it was not ideal, I guess
would be. You could, maybe in a similar fashion to Robert Covington though,
when he really struggled early on getting spot minutes here and there. I
think it's just hard to catch a rhyth when you don't know when you're going
to be playing, how much you're going to be playing, how you're going
to be used. That's a difficult situation, especially for a younger player as
opposed to somebody like Robert. Yeah, you know, on the younger side
relatively the Clippers. He's a young guy. Yeah, and you look at
his numbers, thirty eight percent from the floor, twenty seven percent from three,
not a lot of attempts. But it just wasn't It wasn't really there
for him this year, and it sucks to lose. But I don't know
this. I don't understand how you cannot be somewhat excited about this trade.
Well, somewhat excited feels like the perfect amount. I wouldn't be over the
moon, but I would be. Oh, the Clippers got a little bit
better for the window that they have right now. I think it could be
significant, and it really just comes down to health. I know, We've
heard this over and over again, and they're bringing in another guy who has
been injury prone. He had the plantar fasciidas a few years ago. He
had the achilles injury. His last season with the Indiana Pacers, we played
just thirty six games. You know. Last season he played sixty seven,
but then unfortunately went out in the Eastern Conference finals and was playing limited minutes
after the right arm injury. So there's reasons to be concerned healthwise. But
when you look at what they gave up for the potential of Malcolm brov did
when he's right, it's obviously a no brainer in a great move for this
organization. Yeah, and you look at the window like you have to do
it. You have to save a little bit of you know, maybe tie
saving saving him from himself a little bit when it comes to working on kind
of locker room vibes and everything like that. He was in a weird position,
I think too. We got some questions in the chat on YouTube,
said Glad muk is out, but what's next for Gordon or Powell? Do
we keep both? I think Gordon's guaranteed salary marks in like a week or
so, that's when it's twenty six, Yeah, something like that. That's
when his becomes guaranteed. I think they would probably lean keeping more over Gordon,
but I have no idea. This also might not be the first move.
I don't think this is this might be the only move. I mean,
like this is it feels like there's something more happening. I don't know.
We're gonna talk about it tomorrow, but does this Do you think this
is the end of the Clippers moves? No, especially because of some of
the rumors that are out there regarding CP three, regarding Paul George, we
know they work in stealth and typically what's being reported unless it's imminent that the
deal is about to get done, like we saw with Sham's earlier today,
you know, there aren't a lot of murmurs. There's not a lot of
scuttle. But you like to say with the Clippers, that ends up coming
to fruition with this front office because people just don't have the intel. They
don't leak, they don't talk a lot. We saw a lot of markets
go down in the death Marcus Morris trade. That was everyone was like okay,
But that also could have been because the other team was talking because the
Lakers were involved. Also, it was that arms race at the end of
the trade deadline to see who gets Marcus Morris at the time back in what
was that twenty twenty now, so it's hard to know what's real and what
isn't. I do have faith in this front office. I think Lawrence Franks,
president of Basketball Operations, just a couple of years removed from winning Executive
of the Years, should give you that faith, should give you a lot
of confidence in the moves they're going to make that they realized at the end
of this season and talking about how the regular season has to be more respected.
I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but they know where their weaknesses lie.
So I don't think they're done, especially because when you have a lot of
guys on one year deals and you still have somewhat of a log jam.
Not having a mere coffee, not having Marcus Moore's okay, that opens things
up more for batoom and Robert Covington, But we don't know Rocos and Batoum.
They're both on one year deals right the rest of the way, So
they have a lot of tradeable expiring contracts on this Clippers team that could be
sought after in deals that could be sweeteners. So I don't think they're done.
I don't think this is going to be the final, you know,
shoot a drop for this team. But we'll see. We might find out
a lot in the next twenty four hours here. Yeah, we're gonna be
doing a stream tomorrow at like six, who knows when the draft actually starts,
we'll be talking about the Clippers moves. Where are we I don't where
are we at on the the PG stuff? Do we think that's real at
all? Do we think PG? I know mark Stein reported it. You
tweeted out some stuff about how mark Stein also talked about how kauh I wasn't
going to resign with the Clips, and then I think an hour later he
put pen to paper for the Clippers. So like, I don't know.
And there was a report that the Clippers are kind of leaving opposing teams at
the minimum, feeling like they would include Paul George, Like is it just
pockets sand? Is it all scuttle? But it doesn't mean anything, you
know. I don't want to be too harsh on mark Stein because I know
he's an accredited reporter, But if you just look at the last five years,
who were the guys that dropped the big stories. It's either Shams,
it's Chris Haynes, or it's Adrian Wardsnowski. I can't think of the last
time. It's like saying, Jannis and Dennik Kompo, you just sound smarter
if you can pull it off somehow. But I can't remember the last time
Mark Stein broke a story. That would be pretty significant if the move was
Paul George for the number three, which ends up becoming Scoot. I want
to say it's more about reading tea leaves like we all have since Portland started
to dangle their pick and we're looking for a small forward. It was just
connecting dots who was trying to see how the Clippers could fit in here.
But it's not to say he's wrong that the Clippers aren't necessarily gauging and doing
their due diligence of what a player's value is, because I think that's pretty
standard. During the summertime, you got everybody is like the Portland trail Blazers,
not just having yeah or slamming the phone down whenever there's someone's calling to
ask about Damian Lillard. That's a very unique situation, and given the answering
history of both Kauai and Paul George, you could rationalize it like, Okay,
we can't afford to have two guys that are this injury prone. What
if we traded one of them and it just so happens the Portland trail Blazers
might be interested in making a deal with one of these with their top pick.
I don't know still how reasonable it is to believe that Charlotte's not gonna
take scoot, as we heard from Lambury last week. I know Adrian Warzerowski
did bring up a report yesterday talking about how on Brandon Miller, who,
by the way, earlier today there was a video of him saying his goat
is Paul George, which makes sense. He's six nine. He probably models
his game after him. But someone pointed his age too. If you look
at his age, he grew up watching kind of I don't want about peak
Paul George, but pretty close to peak Paul George when he was coming up.
So I just think Paul George was the three sixty right before he got
hurt against OKAYC like Paul George is still happening. I don't want to act
like he's some washed player. He's Joe injury prone. Right when he's out
there on the court, he can still do everything. There was the dunk
last season that was eerily similar to the dunk on Birdman in twenty thirteen.
When you did the side by side, it was the exact same elevation,
the exact same dunk from PG thirteen. So you know, I understand why
a team will want to pull him in, like the Portland Trailblazers, if
they're hell bent on trying to get Dame help and competing and giving him one
last shot to win a championship in Portland before they end up moving him,
which I do think is inevitable at some point. But I don't know if
from the Clippers point of view, it's worth giving up on Paul George right
now, even if you are getting a Scoot with the third pick, because
does that get you closer to winning a championship this season? And now we
see the move from Malcolm Brogden and it looks like, okay, that would
mean even less time on the court for Scoot. You know, just uh,
there's myself, yeah, like Chris Paul and stuff too, Like it's
like, what what what also Westbrook? Can they resign him? Still,
there's a lot in the air. I think Law reported basically like if we
got Chris Paul, we wouldn't get Russ because Russ was going to take a
little bit over the minimum. But that was before kind of this Chris Paul
stuff started. So I'm not sure if there'd be money for both. I'm
not one hundred percent sure on that. I mean, I would not I
would not be upset if we don't have both of Russell Westbrook and Chris Paul.
But it seems like it would maybe be Chris Paul. It would seem
like a lot of insurance policies at that position. All of a sudden,
Okay, guy goes down. Curatively, Malcolm Brogden isn't able to go more
than sixty seven games like this season, Okay, but we have CP three
and in a limited roll off the bench, you know, is he able
to stay healthier longer. He had a very solid regular season for them and
was doing fine in the playoffs before he went down. That he did get
exposed at times with the Clippers looking for him or leaving him open. He
didn't shoot the ball well from the outside with the Phoenix Suns. But it's
hard to tell exactly what that ultimate plan is right now with the Clippers because
of this Paul George situation like that could change a lot of things. That
could turn into a ripple effect or a domino effect where all of a sudden,
are they going to blow it up? Are they going to trade Kawhi
Leonard Chaos? Yeah, if we go off what Lawrence Frank said in his
exit interview after this season, it was all about investing in those guys for
the long term. We expect them to be here for the long term.
Things change though the right deal comes along. You have to be flexible.
We saw that with Blake Griffin, we saw that with Tobias Harris. So
it's not as simple as just going off of you know, I agree he
was sincere and meant it when he said it. But if Portland really is
willing to give up the three and Scoot's gonna be there, you have to
at least think about that. You gotta think about it, like yeah,
And a lot of people were saying, like, oh, the Clippers would
only make that trade if Scoots for sure available at three. You're not going
to know that until Charlotte makes their pick, you know what I mean,
Like, it's not I just don't believe in like, oh, we swear
this other team's gonna take this guy. Charlotte should be in no position to
taking best fit over best player available. When you're this bad, you should
always go best player available. I know they have Lamello. I would still
try to make that work. I think the King still made a mistake trading
Tyrese Haliburton long term versus bonus, even after the season that they had.
I think they're going to end up regretting it eventually, just because they didn't
want to have a glut of guards or another guy competing for the ball with
Daron Fox and Davion Mitchell. I don't think that's the way to go when
you're a team that's in the dregs and the Charlotte Hornets, all right,
they have the number two pick for a reason. Now, maybe Brandon Miller
turns out to be a stud and he is the Knicks Paul George. But
I would take the most sure thing at the number two pick, and that
is I think Scoot Henderson. In most drafts, everybody will be talking about
him number one. But we have this trend formative player in Victor in women
Yama, who's coming out this season, a guy like we've never seen before.
Otherwise, all the talk is about Scoot, right, So I don't
understand why Charlotte wouldn't. I understand it is a fit thing with Lamello.
But when you're that bad, you just have to get the most talented guy.
Just get the guy who's good. Like, just do that. What
do you think? I'm interested in what you think, Charles reading the Clippers
rumors, what Mark Stein said about them gauging offers or value on Paul George,
and whether or not they should or would pull the trigger on a trade
with Portland if it's the number three, if it's inevitably getting scooted in Anthony
Simmons, I've gone back and forth on this. I think I was talking
to Brian Colin about this. I did the clip set pot on Sunday,
and I said, like, up until the Chris Paul news, I was
having a great offseason. I was just willfully ignorant of any horrible moves that
might come into play for the Clippers. But now I've been thinking about this
Chris Paul George and the number three trade, which I talked about. We've
talked about it before, but man, if you can guarantee to get Simons
and it has to be Scooted, I don't like Brandon Miller. I would
be like, right, like we got another four. I guess, like,
I'm not sure he's gonna start if it's Simon's Scoot, and then there
has to be another contract thrown in right for the money to match. So
it's either Nerk. I don't think we're getting Shade and Sharp. Everyone really
is high on him because he might be good. So I think it would
probably be Nerk Simons and the three pick four PG. I mean, if
and only if that pick is Scoot, would I be into it. If
it's not Scoot, I'm kind of out. You're adding a guy who is
a position in the Clippers need. He's a guy that Clippers fans would fall
in love with. I don't watch college basketball, well, I don't watch
Ignite basketball, but I've obviously been watching highlights the past couple of days.
Clippers fans would absolutely fall in love with Scoot. He's basically like, he's
huge. He plays like Patrick Beverley, but with more skill and athleticism is
kind of how I feel about his game, And I think if you're Balmer,
if Scoot becomes the man, you have this new generation bridging to the
old in quotes because it is so three years and your eras over one with
Kawhi Leonard, right like, you have this kind of passing of the torch
thing that might happen. So I think as of two nineteen PM on June
twenty first, I would do Scoot Simons and whatever the filler is for PG,
I think I would do it, But that could also maybe change it
two twenty one, So I don't know because right like, they's been bad
for both things where I'm like, I wouldn't. It'd be a really weird
trippy way for the two one three year to end, but it would feel
a little exciting that it's not a full tear down. It's not even like
a quasi tear down. We traded PG for the number three pick, and
we're getting a guy who theoretically supposed to be the man and then whatever other
pieces we move around. So two nineteen I'm holding strong I would do the
trade within thirty seconds. You can really talk yourself into it or out of
it when it comes to this. It's not an easy decision, Yeah,
because I think the excitement surrounding the draft, and I've been talking about this
for years just because I have a memory or at least look things up.
Everybody gets talked about on draft night like they have all star potential. Total
back a ten year window from two thousand and six to twenty sixteen. I
say it all the time. That's one hundred top ten draft picks. There
have been about twenty seven All Stars coming out of top ten picks. There
have been more busts or guys who never lived up to their potential than there
were all stars. Everybody says this is a sure thing, and maybe it
is. With Scoot. I think he's a lot like a young Baron Davis
speaking of Charlotte. To me, he looks like Baron Davis with the way
he moves out there, his shot, a little bit, his handle,
how ready he is physically for the game at this level. He's even much
stronger than Baron Davis ricks and no sense he's nineteen too. Like it's crazy.
Yeah, and maybe he does become their next SGA if they bring him
in. But I think everyone's just assuming that's what would happen, correct,
And I do want to go out there. You never know with potential and
young players. You never know what if he turned out to be injury prone,
what if he turned out to have issues from the locker room? Like,
there's so many things that get covered up during the draft process because guys
are looking to get paid and looking to get drafted at the highest point in
the draft I possible. So it's not as easy as just well, Paul
George's injury prone. We've had it with this two on three era. We're
souring on it. We're going to get rid of one of them. I
don't know if it's that simple of a decision, because then does it lead
to Kawai being moved. There's no way they're not running this by Kawhi.
I just can't see Kawai not being asked about this. I know we joke
about Portland and Dame, but I think Kawhi and the Clippers have a similar
relationship in terms of talking to their star player. They just don't talk about
it to other people as much. Yeah, and Paul George was recently saying
this on a podcast that they collaborate, that he has the ear of Lawrence
Frank and that's been evident throughout his team Clippers. Oh shit, yeah.
So does this move with Malcolm Brodden though, Does it give any insight one
way or another to whether or not they would bring in Scoop, to whether
or not they would make that move. I don't think so. I think
if if the if the option was trade for Malcolm Brogden or trade for Scoot,
and they chose trade for Malcolm Brogden, I'd be pretty bummed out.
I don't think this affects it. The Clippers are always trying to get better
out of they force these I'm not saying this is the right thing to do.
They force these position gluts on themselves, right. We've seen him do
it with point guards, We've seen him with power forwards, everything but the
center position. But I don't think it affects it at all. There's so
many have the team's even seen the new CBA yet, Because that's the other
crazy part is that when law told us that teams don't even have the CBA
yet, I feel like there's no way that this is indicative of what's going
to happen, you know what I mean? Like there are a million things
could happen between now and tomorrow night. We've got differing views from some of
our viewers here. Race to Racy Marlin Rot, I don't know. Marlin
says, I'm from Fresno. I love PG, but I'm taking Scoot one
percent. Dennis Zapata says trading PG is no longer an option. We're going
all in. I love PG, and I like the potential of Scoot,
but I do find it interesting that somebody would that quickly jump off of Paul
George, who is our pably a top seventy five player of all time,
like he was right there. You can make the argument he's better than I
think he's better than Damian Lillard, who made top seventy five. I think
Damian Lillard has more accomplishments, yes, in every way, including leading teams
in the Eastern Conference and the Western Conference to conference finals as the number one
guy I know Dame has done at once when things broke their way, and
C. J. McCollum took over in that game seven in Denver. But
Paul George, I don't know, his greatness is getting overlooked a little bit
here. I feel like, and maybe it's just because of the shiny thing.
It's the new shiny potential thing verse, something that has on the whole
disappointed Clippers fans in terms of an availability and sometimes mentality thing. How quickly
we forget though after the twenty twenty one playoff run, everybody was tipping their
calf to Paul George and saying, you're the man, You're the right guy
next to Kawhi Leonard. You can be the number two one on championship team
and at times lead is the number one. He played so well, those
game fives were historic against Utah and then against the Phoenix Suns. He did
step up. The playoff piece stuff and making fun of him for that got
put on the backburner. Finally, absolutely so, I just we're not that
far removed from that. I think he's still that same player. It's just
getting him on the court enough. He also so, yeah, the availability
thing very hard to argue with that. That's been the mark of the two
and three era up to this point. It's yeah, well, and then
Marlin thinks he's a top ten player. He's responding now in the league skill
yes, skill wise, absolutely, does he want to be a top ten
player? I'm not entirely sure. I think that's and this is why I
don't like that he has his podcast, because he just talks about shit.
I think it's fine to have a podcast, but I'm like, PG,
you're the player who everyone is like. He doesn't really seem like he has
that in him or whatever. You know what I mean. But I just
I put that stuff aside from actual on court productivity, like what we saw
in twenty twenty one, Like for Paul George and how much he has been
mopped about the podcast and certain things he have said that sounds like double speak.
What does that matter compared to him what he actually did? It's a
situation rationality behind it. I'm not saying there's rationality behind it. I would
just when you know, when he's like he's a he puts his foot in
his mouth, we're in the driver's seat. We feel fine. I'm fine
with being a number like he says things were like, sure, when you
sit down and think about it, they makes sense. But unfortunately this is
not the sports media world we're in anymore. Well, I just want to
know from people in the comments section, now, are you okay with having
worse odds to win the championship, which you'll likely have if you make that
move. Uh, with trading Paul George for Scoot feeling that they're going to
say yes, one hundred pers because we're also we're not exactly like they have
worse chances win the championship? Sure, how much worse? Like like that's
a discussion too, Like how much worse is it with Paul George and without
Paul George ads Scoot Simon's nerk Like, obviously it's worse, but is it
fifteen percent worse? Yeah? Is it twenty five? Person? Because if
it's not over twenty You're like, oh, some of it could just depend
on Simon's and how much more he has in him towards whatever his ceiling is.
And I'm like, Simon's a lot. Well, yeah, I was
high on him when he came out and last season at times he looked like
one of the most lethal scores at that age that we have seen in Sometimes
he could catch a heater and just be absolutely on stoppable out there. The
problem is defensive deficiencies. People aren't thinking about the other side of the ball,
where Paul George is so great at with Defensively, that stuff's gonna be
missed. So I'm open to both. Like I said, I could talk
myself in and out of making this move. It's that difficult, and it
may depend on who else the Clippers give up. If Terrence Man is included
in that trade, would you want to do it? Still? No?
Because that so that's the other part. It's like there's everyone has all these
hang ups, and if Terrence Man in the because we're also getting something like
we're not getting just like Nerk as the filler. If you're adding Terrence Man
for that, because I think you have to add another contract because his extension
kicked in, so that would hurt. I don't want to trade Terrence Man
for Chris Paul. I don't even think we're gonna trade for Chris Paul.
I think that's going to be a maybe they cut him and then we just
signed him or something. But it would be tough to lose Terrence Man.
He's a guy who everyone I'm pretty if you're watching this or who listens to
our podcasts, things should get more playing time from the Clippers. Will you
though? I want him too, but it's that Roco question of will he
actually do it? We all want these things to happen, but will it
happen, which is why a mere gets traded. So I think Terence would
maybe be a hang up for me. Losing Terence would hurt. He's one
of our most first little defenders. He does whatever the hell they ask him
to do. That would hurt, and he's gotten incrementally better each season,
so that one would hurt. And he's the only good Clippers draft pick we've
kept in the last five years. Some were talking about are they going to
have to include Brandon Boston? Would he go to Boston? Would that happen
in this trade? And to be fair, it hasn't been fully realized yet
or it hasn't been The trade hasn't been fully consummated. Once the team's actually
put out press releases, that's when it is official officials. So we're still
just going off of what shams or what would you include boarding in the train
for number three? Probably not? Probably not. I I am I don't
want to pat myself with the bat, but I feel like I'm a little
bit more grounded when it comes to the draft that some people like. I'm
sorry, but nothing is guaranteed like Scoot could be. I remember when Marcus
Smart was coming out and they were comparing him to Dwayne Wade. I'm old
enough to remember that they thought he had the potential of Dwyane Wade. Now
he is a good player, but he's nowhere close to that right comparisons when
he was coming out, which I just felt so bad for Ruey. He
didn't want that. No one wants that people fall in love with potential so
much that they overlook what's already right in front of you at times. And
I think Paul George is starting to become a little bit underrated. Yeah,
I mean I think that's fair. Now, maybe after what Brandon Miller said
today, that'll change that balances things out. But I think there's something to
a burden the hand. And if you still have Kawhi Leonaron on this team,
you want the best chance to win now, because regardless of another guy
playing eighty two games and being healthier out there, if he's a lesser player
than Paul George, that still doesn't get you closer to a championship. You
may have a better regular season, but how much further away? That's what
That's what it is, and I think it's ten percent because it's like that
question about upgrading Zoo. Right, remember we talked about it. We're like,
all right, we're paying Zoo effectively no money to be the most consistent
player for the Clippers, and he's really good defensively. Is it worth the
fifteen percent jumping ability for someone who gets paid three times as much? Right,
So it's like if we're taking a five percent seven percent step back,
I'm talking like, these are actual percentages we can figure out. It's not
too bad. I'm excited for whatever the hell's going to happen, because this
does not feel like it's the last thing to happen. No, I didn't
think Morris was gonna be the first guy traded, I'll tell you that much.
I thought it was gonna be Rocco. We don't play the guy.
I thought Rocco is gonna be gone. It's an easy win for the Clippers,
given what they gave up to bring in somebody like Malcolm Broaden. It's
a big victory today Clipper Nation. This was somebody that I think a lot
of people had targeted last season to try to get him even before that.
It just makes sense fit wise. He's great for this team. Unfortunately,
though he does come with injury concerns. You have to take that into account
too. That's how we live like that. I mean the injury things one
more, Yeah, what's one more? Like? The injury thing sucks?
That is obviously the biggest I think flag for Brogden Um. We'll probably see
if kawhipg and Brogden are all on the team starting next year. I bet
we see thirty games of them all together. Fully active would be my guess,
all of them. I'm gonna haul three of them together. I hope
for more too, but thirty doesn't feel too far off. You need injury
luck. The Denver Nuggets had a guy coming off an ACL he never missed
a playoff game this year, and a guy who is still dealing with a
chronic back injury that could flare up at any moment, and Michael Porter Junior
as well still stay healthy throughout the playoffs that may not happen again. Did
you see how Doc was talking about how Michael Porter Junior was playing with rods
in his back, and then Michael Porter Junior's dad was like, no,
the fuck he is not. He absolutely is not playing that. Are playing
with rods and playing with your meat or whatever? Doctor? Yeah, man,
classic doc. All right, some of us are getting emails that maybe
we should have to answer because of his work hours, Adams, What do
we have on deck for these wonderful people. Tomorrow we're gonna talk draft,
even though the Clippers just lost their pick, but we'll talk more of the
bigger picture in free agency. I'm not somebody full disclosure if you couldn't tell
by now that gets as excited as some for the NBA Draft. Maybe if
you're in San Antonio, that's very understandable. If you're in Charlotte, if
you're in Portland, could that change if the Clippers trade for Scoot? Yes,
of course, every Clippers. I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna lose my
mind. I might order the jersey if they draft Scoot, but the jersey
would say Scoot, it would not say his last name, it would just
say Scoop. I'd go Carl tart on it. That's a new era if
they end up doing that, where we would be entering a new era of
Clippers basketball, or at least a different face of the two on three now
just the two era with Kawhi Leonards. Should they trade Paul George for him?
But who knows what you know, chain of events that could set off,
so there's a lot to be discussed. We'll get to all of it
tomorrow. Hopefully we'll have a clearer picture by then. I hope it's murdering
regarding this trade. I hope there's more rumors. I hope there's more rumors.
Eric Gordon might be on the move, who knows. But yeah,
we'll be back with y'all tomorrow. Adam, where can these people find us?
And all of us on Twitter and all that good stuff. Will Opdyke
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just because he wasn't on the last few shows. Okay, he's just busy.
He's busy. Yeah, we love Will. We miss him, shout
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hang, it's gonna be a good time. I'm gonna be on there probably
way too much these next couple of days. And yeah, if we get
scooted, I will live stream me ordering the Scoot jersey. I make that
a promise. I'm somehow team Scoot. Now it's going to change in five
minutes. But thank you everyone for hanging out. I hope you didn't get
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