WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:04.360 Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In this episode, I talked to two individuals, 2 00:00:04.759 --> 00:00:10.480 one about their encounter in remote Montana and the other about their remote encounter 3 00:00:10.599 --> 00:00:14.359 around Kusbay, Oregon. If you've experienced something similar to what they have, 4 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:18.239 or have more information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids in the same areas, please 5 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:21.600 reach out to me immediately after this episode. And if you've had an encounter 6 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:24.600 and you'd like to be on the show, please contact me directly at Bigfoot 7 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:28.280 Society at gmail dot com. 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I appreciate you having a platform that 17 00:01:04.959 --> 00:01:10.959 allows somebody like me who's never talked about this to actually have the opportunity to 18 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:15.719 say something and just kind of validate what I went through, you know, 19 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:23.319 So thank you. I appreciate it absolutely. I feel it's very very important 20 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:30.480 to be able to give people a platform where they feel validated, safe to 21 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.079 speak about things without feeling like they're going to get ridiculed. But so, 22 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:38.200 Kathy, thank you so much for green to come on. I'll go ahead 23 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:42.480 and let you take it from here. Okay, Well, I guess the 24 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:48.640 first thing to say is I was born and raised in Montana. Forty three 25 00:01:48.719 --> 00:01:52.959 years of my life, I spent from east to west, north to south, 26 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:57.879 literally four hundred miles as the crow flies east to west and three hundred 27 00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.799 north to south. I've been all across Montana, living in different places, 28 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:06.519 working in different places, and kind of early in my life I ended up 29 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:10.520 in a little tiny town called Pony and that's at the base of Holotop Mountain 30 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:15.800 in the Tobacco Root Mountains. Okay, this is in the middle of nowhere. 31 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:20.879 Eighty some people was the actual amount of people that lived in that town. 32 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:23.879 So I was there in Abount ninety eight or ninety nine, okay, 33 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:29.719 And I traveled the same road back and forth to both of my jobs there 34 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:35.560 every single day except for one day of a week, basically, and just 35 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:42.680 one of these drives that I just noticed this huge, monstrous bull moose had 36 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:46.960 come down into the koolie right by this road because it runs by this creek 37 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:51.759 that feeds the whole koolie, so that stays green all year long, whether 38 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:57.479 there's no water anywhere else, that spot's got water and green. So he 39 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:00.199 showed up there, and so I just started paying it because the guy kept 40 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:04.680 being there and kept being there. And so one night I got home from 41 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:07.960 work and the other half was at the house and I said, Hey, 42 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.879 that moose. It's not dark yet, and that moose is right out there. 43 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:14.919 Let's go take a look. I'll show you because he wanted to see 44 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:22.080 him. So we jump in a Pontiac car and go driving down the road 45 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:25.919 and it's getting like half dark. You know, you could see shapes and 46 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:30.840 stuff, but you couldn't really see a lot of definition. So we went 47 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:36.319 down there and we're looking for him and could not see this moose and I 48 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:39.639 had just passed him like twenty minutes earlier, and he was just gone, 49 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:44.199 and so I was like, well, maybe tomorrow I'll see him on the 50 00:03:44.240 --> 00:03:47.680 way. And the next day on the way to work, I saw horns, 51 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:51.560 is what I saw. Actually, I slowed down and I was really 52 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:54.120 looking, and all I saw was like these horns. Piet kind of popped 53 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:58.759 up from the grass and I went, oh, no, somebody shot that 54 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:01.919 moose. That's the first thing I thought is somebody had poached that moose and 55 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:05.840 just shot it. And anyway, I went to work and I felt awful, 56 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:10.080 but I went back home and told the other half again, you know, 57 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.360 I know what happened in that moose. Somebody probably shot it, and 58 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:16.120 he was rather upset about that. But so we get in the car again 59 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:19.879 and go down there, and this is when this happened. It was the 60 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:26.199 weirdest thing because there was a road a little just an access road right off 61 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:29.040 of the one that we were on. So we pulled in there, had 62 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:30.959 the lights on the car on, and he kind of swung it down into 63 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:35.040 that koolie so that the lights would go down to where I was trying to 64 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:39.519 show him where it was at and we saw it. We saw the horns 65 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:41.800 again, you know, sticking up out of the grass, and I said, 66 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:45.519 you know, I'm sure somebody probably shot that moose. And so we 67 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:47.959 were just kind of sitting there and on the I had the wind, we 68 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.199 had all the windows down because it was the middle of summer, and we're 69 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:55.199 just sitting there, and I started hearing something on the right hand side of 70 00:04:55.240 --> 00:04:58.480 me coming up that koolie in that grass, and I'm like, well, 71 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:01.800 there's something down here. So we don't want to walk up on a moot. 72 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:04.399 I'm not on a bear, you know. I did not want to 73 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:08.480 walk up on a bear or something that was down there eating that moose. 74 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:15.319 So he backed the car back out into the highway and I looked over out 75 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:19.800 the window and there was this brown thing coming up the side of the hill 76 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:25.079 and I went, oh, it's a dog. And I'm because I saw 77 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:29.720 it would look short because it was this brown bear. And I'm like, 78 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:30.759 oh, it's a dog. And he's like, oh okay, and I 79 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:33.480 said, no, it's not a dog, it's a cow. Because it 80 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.639 kept coming up the hill and it was getting bigger and I could see this 81 00:05:36.839 --> 00:05:46.240 brown and a second later this horrible stench just destroyed our car. It was 82 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:50.079 the most disgusting smell I've ever smelled. And I said it is a bear, 83 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:56.800 because I knew that a grizzly would do that roll in the garbage that 84 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:00.560 they're eating, and so I said it is a bear and he took off. 85 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:06.279 This thing was not a bear because it was running beside our car. 86 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:11.360 I could have reached out and touched it. And I'm looking at legs. 87 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:17.120 Now, that was the craziest thing. And I'm looking at these brownish gray 88 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:21.800 legs and brown hair, and it was beside us, and I could see 89 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:26.759 pads of feet. I could see this like brownish tank. It looked like 90 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:31.399 leather, brown feet bottoms. I could see these flashes as it was running, 91 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:36.240 and I told him go faster. I was just basically panicked at that 92 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:43.759 point because I'm seeing just legs beside me, and I'm just I'm not focusing 93 00:06:43.839 --> 00:06:46.680 on anything else except for this thing could grab me right now. We're right 94 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:51.399 next to each other, and so he just took off as fast as that 95 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:56.959 car would go, and we basically on the drive home, We're been kind 96 00:06:56.959 --> 00:06:59.959 of too much shock, and I was shaken like a leaf I was little, 97 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:03.720 really jello inside, and I just looked at him and I said, 98 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:09.240 did you see that? You know, because I wasn't sure if he had 99 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:12.639 seen what I had seen. And he said, I don't want to talk 100 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:15.759 about it. And I said, did you see that? What did you 101 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:18.120 see what I was looking at? And he said, I don't want to 102 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:24.560 talk about it. And Jeremiah, I thought about this for a long time. 103 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.519 I really did, and I'm like, why will he not talk to 104 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:35.160 me about this? But a long time getting to really know somebody. He 105 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:39.600 was a very he was a bully. Honestly, I'm not going to talk. 106 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:43.040 I don't want me talk about about anybody, but I need the backstory 107 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:47.160 here for his reaction. And I finally figured it out. He's always a 108 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:51.519 belligerent and a bully, you know. He was the big man, and 109 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:58.959 he always got his way or the highway. And that night was the only 110 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:03.120 light I ever seen him show fear. I never saw him show fear at 111 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:07.000 any other point in time. And this man was burned from head to toe. 112 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:13.040 He went through terrible things and he just gritted his teeth and buried it. 113 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.360 But he was scared to death that night. And I think that's why 114 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:20.839 he would never talk to me because that was the only time he ever showed 115 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:24.920 me absolute fear of something. You know, he wasn't the big man in 116 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:31.000 the woods. And so that was the first time something strange happened. And 117 00:08:31.039 --> 00:08:37.120 that was over in the Tobaccoy Mountains and that was it was like three four 118 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:43.120 years later, we moved to another town north of Paradise Valley and hunted in 119 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.960 the Gallatin and Custern National Forest. We went to the Absolocus. We were 120 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:52.240 all over the place, Custer and sweet Grass all down through there. And 121 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:58.440 we actually took a hunting trip one day south of Livingston on the west side 122 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:03.879 of the Highway and that's the Custern National Forest area there and you can go 123 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:07.120 out there and hunt elk. So that's what we were doing. I had 124 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:11.399 a thirty at six, he had a two seventy, and we just went 125 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:16.279 out there and we're walking, parked the vehicle and we're walking. It was 126 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:22.159 the middle of the day. We're walking out there and I was about fifty 127 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:26.960 yards behind my ex husband, my husband at the time. I kept a 128 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:31.080 little distance because if he saw something, he would basically just freeze and then 129 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:35.480 I would freeze, you know, and that's how he wanted it. And 130 00:09:35.519 --> 00:09:39.559 so I was about fifty months behind him, just trailing him, and I 131 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:43.279 kept hearing something behind me, and I kept saying, there's somebody or something 132 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:48.039 out here behind me, because every time you stop and I stop, I 133 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:52.480 hear something. Then it stops and then we go and I said, this 134 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:54.679 is really unnerving. I don't want to be this far away, and he 135 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:58.120 got annoyed with me, but he said, okay, So we kind of 136 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:03.600 kind of got to together down into these bottoms. You know, you got 137 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.200 the mountains up at the top, but then at the bottom they're pretty clear, 138 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:11.879 they're grassy areas, easy to get through and walk through. And so 139 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:15.759 I kept hearing that he and I said, why don't you go, you 140 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:20.080 know, behind me for a minute, and you might hear this. And 141 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.159 so we just kept walking and he said, yeah, I hear something, 142 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.519 but I'm not sure what it is. But it did not sound like an 143 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:31.519 animal. It just did not sound like an animal. It was just weird. 144 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:37.559 And as we're going along, all of a sudden, the brush to 145 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:46.039 the right of us just exploded and this huge cow moose came running just out 146 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:50.559 of those freaking bushes and right in front of us and just kept on going. 147 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:56.759 That thing acted like we did not even exist. And that was when 148 00:10:56.799 --> 00:11:01.360 I said, Okay, I'm very uncomfortable with this situation. I don't care 149 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:05.159 what gun you have. There's something happening here because she didn't even look at 150 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:09.559 us, So something bigger than us is after her. You know, that's 151 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.320 my logic. I'm logical and rational. I'm thinking, if that thing ain't 152 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:16.080 even looking at us and being worried about it, there's something worse coming up 153 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:24.240 the hill. And I just get that horrible sick feeling like something very bad 154 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:28.000 is about to happen here. But we turned around. We turned around because 155 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:31.559 I did actually tell him I'm not going any further. I'm not going to 156 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:33.679 do that anymore. I'm not going to walk into a bear. And that's 157 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:35.279 what I kept thinking to myself, it's got to be a bear. I 158 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.799 always blame it on bears first and foremost, but that did not sound like 159 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:46.399 a bear that most just didn't seem like, you know, she even cared 160 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:52.240 that we existed, and she just went right past us. But the one 161 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:56.440 weird thing, Jeremiah, I was gonna tell you about Pony. Those are 162 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.320 the two different places. Anyway, I had these weird ex experiences. But 163 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:05.240 the one thing about Pony is where we lived. We lived right at the 164 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:09.840 base of hall Atop, and so our neighbors had a house beside us they 165 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:13.399 rented, and then their house. On the back of their houses, they 166 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:20.360 had huge motion sensor flood lights, okay, on the back of these houses 167 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.159 that were beside us, the two beside us, and they had a four 168 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.799 and a half foot picket fence around their house. And so at night, 169 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:31.279 when I was by myself, the lights would just flash on. I'd go 170 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.320 look at it. You know, oh, there's some deer or there's the 171 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:39.720 dog outside or whatever. But occasionally you would go out there to the window 172 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:45.000 and look, and the deer would be screaming through that failed and right into 173 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:50.000 their yard where those lights would come on, and then keep on going. 174 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.399 And then just split second later, you'd see a big cat chasing them right 175 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:56.879 through the yard. Those those mountain lions up there would come right through the 176 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:01.240 yards after those deer, and you'd see the big four and a half foot 177 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.159 tail flipping above the fence, and you knew it wasn't the dog out there, 178 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.840 so you stayed in the house for a while. But that was just 179 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:13.399 a Honestly, in the wintertime, that was almost normal occurrence. Those deer 180 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:18.000 to run right down that creek, right to the backyards in those big lighted 181 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.799 you know, big lit up places, and sometimes you'd see something chase them. 182 00:13:22.799 --> 00:13:26.960 Sometimes you wouldn't. But sometimes those deer would come down there so fast 183 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:33.679 and nothing would follow them into the light, and they would sit there in 184 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:37.720 that yard and you could see them shaking. I mean, you could see 185 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:41.559 these deer quivering, but they didn't run like they did when the mountain lions 186 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:46.919 were behind them. They kept going. But occasionally these deer would come down 187 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.559 there and get into those yards, those two yards, and they wouldn't move. 188 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.159 They'd just sit there shaking, and nothing come into the light. And 189 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:01.399 those are the questions that I have. Was something out there that knew I'm 190 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:03.639 not walking into those lights. I'll chase a deer, but I'm not walking 191 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:07.960 into those lights because the cats didn't care. You see what I'm saying. 192 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:13.120 They didn't care about a light. They were chasing that deer down. So 193 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:20.440 just weird stuff like that happened up there. The moose, we had another 194 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.039 moose. It was a calmose when she would drop her twins. She had 195 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.519 twins three years in a row up there, and when she would drop her 196 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:30.559 twins, she would do it right there in that field with those lights. 197 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:35.519 That's where she would raise those two twins, right there in the back by 198 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:37.879 the crik, where those huge lights were on all night, because every time 199 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:41.879 she moved it turned on. So that's another thing that I questioned too, 200 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.879 was that mosse understanding that as long as they're here, they're safe. You 201 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:54.320 know. That also made me wonder that there's something out there that's enormous that's 202 00:14:54.399 --> 00:15:01.360 three times as tall as a normal Pontiac car at least, I mean, 203 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:05.480 because all I saw was legs and feet. That's the only thing I saw. 204 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.639 And so you know, that's really my experience is in a couple of 205 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:16.519 the things I have questions about, like were they responding to something out there 206 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:20.399 that I didn't even I didn't have to believe myself at the time, you 207 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:26.799 know what I mean. But that's that's really what happened, is seeing it 208 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:30.519 right by the car. That was the That was the big thing for me, 209 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.639 as actually I could have reached out and touched it at the time, 210 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:39.360 but thank goodness. It didn't touch me. You know, that is an 211 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:45.200 incredible account. It's just it's very man. I don't even know how I 212 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:50.679 would handle it. Were the windows down in the car really, so it 213 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.080 was, Oh my goodness. So you're in this now you're saying a Pontiac 214 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:58.600 car, was it? It's a Bonaville. It's a Bonaville. So that 215 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:02.200 was it was like a nineteen ninety okay, which is lower to the ground, 216 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:06.639 right, yes, okay, but you had the windows down. Oh 217 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:08.639 man, Well, yeah, it's Montana in the middle of summer. You're 218 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:14.720 gonna have the windows down. You don't run the acy. Yeah, that 219 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:18.200 makes total sense. So you had mentioned that you could see the legs, 220 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:23.559 the pads of the feet. Did you notice any other part in addition, 221 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:40.000 I I don't know if I heard anything. That's I'm makes me wonder because 222 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:41.960 I thought it was, like like I say, I was my brain was 223 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.519 triggering what could this be? And it was just getting bigger, and so 224 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.919 my brain was going bigger and bigger. And when I thought it was like 225 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:53.399 a cow beside us, I thought I heard like a cow huffing. When 226 00:16:53.399 --> 00:16:59.399 a cow runs, they will huff, you know, they they labor and 227 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.679 so I I thought, that's why I thought it was a cow, because 228 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:08.119 it was like shorter two three inch brownish hair, and I think I heard 229 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:11.880 it huffing, and that's why I thought at first, Oh, that's gotta 230 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.680 be a cow. But then it kept coming up the side of the koolie 231 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.279 right to our car. I mean, he was headed right to us. 232 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.640 That was the problem is that my brain was not working fast enough to go, 233 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:26.519 what is what am I looking at? Until I was just looking at 234 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.200 legs right and then like I said, I could see the feet pads and 235 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:37.759 it was just these enormous, enormous legs. I didn't see any arms, 236 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.640 hands. I don't know if he had him up or what, but I 237 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:45.559 just there's not much else. The smell was the worst part. The smell 238 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:48.920 made me literally I was gagging. I was gagging. It was so bad. 239 00:17:49.400 --> 00:17:53.319 And it stayed in that car. It lingered with the windows down eighty 240 00:17:53.359 --> 00:18:00.000 miles an hour. It was horrid. So you saw it come up the 241 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:06.599 banks of the Kooli to the car. You said that you're you weren't really 242 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:10.079 thinking of what was going on at the time, But do you remember, 243 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:14.359 like looking at the creature at that time, like looking at its face or 244 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.480 anything like that, or no, there wasn't any It was coming up sideways. 245 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:23.960 So all I was basically seeing was I believe I think I was seeing 246 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:27.720 like head shoulders coming up or something as it was coming up the side. 247 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:32.880 But it was coming like what do you call it, like at a thirty 248 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.079 five to forty five degree angle, coming up that hill as we were turning 249 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:40.240 around and trying and getting ready to go, So it was coming up at 250 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:44.319 an angle almost kind of beside behind me. So when I'm looking, I'm 251 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:49.039 seeing this just this brown stuff to my right as it's coming up there. 252 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:55.640 And that's what got me is we kind of crested together. Basically it got 253 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:59.000 to the top of there at the same time that we turned. We had 254 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:03.240 turned around, so he basically turned around and put me right beside this thing. 255 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:06.759 When he turned to the left to go back, he put me right 256 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:11.519 beside it. And that's when I'm looking out directly beside me, right at 257 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:17.839 the mirror, with this thing beside us running. That's that's my biggest when 258 00:19:17.839 --> 00:19:21.000 I saw it the most is right there at the mirror when it was running 259 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:25.960 beside us. At any point, did you get a feeling for how tall 260 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:30.000 it was. Like I say, it had to be what at least three 261 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.920 times the size of that car? And when I got out of the car, 262 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:37.960 I'm a short person, okay, so let's say four feet three feet 263 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:41.559 three and a half four feet it was enormous. Like is all I saw 264 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.759 was legs, like right above the knee down. Literally I could see the 265 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.680 knee movement. But that's just it was right there, is what I was 266 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:53.440 looking out out that window, like at three and a half feet, so 267 00:19:55.759 --> 00:20:00.720 eight nine feet probably I would say something like that, Yeah, wow, 268 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:06.319 did you ever go back to look at that area after this had happened? 269 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:08.519 Did you go back the next day? Or is just you were staying away 270 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:12.759 from that area? I had to drive past it every single day to go 271 00:20:12.799 --> 00:20:18.880 to work. I didn't have a choice. That was the crazy part is 272 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:22.759 I would literally for a long time, I would just pray, please just 273 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:26.319 get me pass that spot. Please just get me past that spot. You 274 00:20:26.319 --> 00:20:30.920 know. That's what And that's stupid because that thing could be anywhere everywhere. 275 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:34.039 Seriously, it could be long gone. But in my brain, I was 276 00:20:34.079 --> 00:20:37.720 like, just get me past that spot. That's all I care about. 277 00:20:37.839 --> 00:20:41.400 I don't want to break down there, no, you know what I mean? 278 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:48.680 Oh yeah, definitely. I mean to have to probably relive that over 279 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.960 and over in your mind daily on the way to work. That would be 280 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:57.880 not a fun time for sure. That area that you lived in, was 281 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:03.279 it a thing where people whatever talk about Bigfoot? Ever? Oh, they 282 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:07.480 would talk about their cows missing. Yeah, because there was a couple of 283 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:14.519 really big black angus ranches right there in that valley. Pony was kind of 284 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:17.160 up in the mountain, and all that entire valley, all the way down 285 00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:22.240 to basically Ennis is nothing but cattle land, raising lands, things of that 286 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.920 nature, And they would talk about them, are cows disappearing when they have 287 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:30.640 them down in the valley. They would actually just you know, go out 288 00:21:30.680 --> 00:21:33.720 one day, feed the cows, next day, feed the cows, and 289 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:37.920 then they're like, wait a minute, where's that where's that cow? Where's 290 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:40.880 four fifteen or where's two ninety one, you know what I mean? And 291 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:45.000 they were just gone. And so they did talk about that a lot. 292 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:51.000 And they I don't know if any of them had their own encounters at any 293 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:56.519 time, but those cattle ranchers are close mouth about their land. They don't 294 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:59.759 talk about much of anything down there. You know, they don't want to 295 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:02.880 talk about wolves, they don't want to talk about bears, they don't want 296 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:07.279 to talk about anything because if somebody goes after their cattle, the three s's 297 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:11.359 you know what that is, right, that's that's kind of how that works. 298 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:18.519 Three I don't sorry, shoot shovel and shut up, okay, gotcha? 299 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.480 Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how that works. 300 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:25.480 So that's why I say they're kind of tight lipped around there, because 301 00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:29.559 that's just the law of the land. So I'm sure they would not want 302 00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:33.720 to discuss anything like that that somebody might want to protect. Seriously, it's 303 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:41.599 just how it is with land. So I don't know, going off of 304 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:47.480 what you've experienced, you know, some brief interactions, have you ever thought 305 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:52.400 to yourself had to work through, like what you think these might actually be. 306 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:00.359 I would say that they're they're an animal. Honestly, they're just an 307 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:04.680 animal. I don't think that they're demons. I don't think that they're nephilom 308 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:08.119 I don't think there are any of that. I think they're animals. Plain 309 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:14.640 and simple logic and reason tells us the simplest answer is usually the correct answer 310 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:18.400 correct? Is that not right? I'm sure yep, yep, that is 311 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:23.000 that is a logical thing. Yeah, yeah, So I really do I 312 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:26.480 think they're just animals. Yes, I do believe they're intelligent. I mean, 313 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:30.559 I know that animals are intelligent. I absolutely know that they can. 314 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.680 They can figure stuff out that they probably can mimic us and talk, and 315 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:40.400 they probably have their own communication and their own words and things of that nature. 316 00:23:40.759 --> 00:23:44.240 That's fine. I mean, have you seen a murder of pros One 317 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:48.440 of them learned something? Everybody learns it because they sit around and they chatter 318 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.759 it, you know, so they just start learning this stuff. I don't 319 00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:56.200 think they're stupid animals. I think they're extremely intelligent animals. But I do 320 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:02.200 believe they're still animals being a verse and that that's lived in Montana for so 321 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:06.119 long. I've talked to a few people from Montana, and there's some really 322 00:24:06.160 --> 00:24:11.680 interesting things that happen up there. I'm just curious if it's anything you've ever 323 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:17.960 heard of. Have you ever heard of people finding like grizzly bears that have 324 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:22.680 had their necks broken in Montana? You have, yes, Paradise Valley, 325 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:29.279 Yes, Paradise Valley. They actually I kind of know. I had it 326 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:33.319 in at the time down there with somebody that was involved with that stuff. 327 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.039 But they were actually finding these grizzlies dead, and the park Service, the 328 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:41.519 rangers, they knew about it because that's kind of where the line came from. 329 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:45.440 Where the information came from, was through the through that I used to 330 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.480 do some other stuff law enforcement wise for quite a few years there in Montana, 331 00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:53.640 and that's where they were that came from, but directly from the Park 332 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:59.400 Service. Yeah, they're finding dead grizzlies in Paradise Valley, and they're finding 333 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:06.960 dead camp up Incaster National Forest. They're finding like people on one side of 334 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:12.880 a mountain ridge and their entire packs and shoes and everything else seventeen eighteen miles 335 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:17.960 away on another side of the mountain. I don't know if anybody's ever talked 336 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:22.960 to you about those, but that's something that actually happens here, and they 337 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.119 don't know why these people are dead in one spot and all their stuff is 338 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:30.720 somewhere else if they you know, and they're just dead. I believe that 339 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:36.960 was called out in That's a Missing four on one thing with David Plaiti's I 340 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:40.880 think as I remember, Yeah, he's done that documentary. Yep, he's 341 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:42.359 done that. Yep. That's right, and that's not a lie. That 342 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:47.480 is the absolute truth. Like I said, I had some inns with these 343 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:52.359 places, and that is the truth. That's crazy and I'm the first time 344 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:55.880 I read and I was like, there's got to be a logical explanation. 345 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:03.039 There's no logical explanation for finding that. There's no logic. These people knew 346 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.400 what they were doing out there. They were well prepared. It's not like 347 00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:10.279 it was the first time they went on a hike. You know, something 348 00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:15.279 happened to these people. It's I remember looking into that myself, and it 349 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:19.480 just it does not make sense at all. Going back to the grizzlies, 350 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:23.359 do you say that so they were found they were found dead, but you 351 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:30.759 said their necks were broken as well. Not only their necks were broken, 352 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:37.920 but they were actually their bodies were mangled. They weren't just somebody broke their 353 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.640 neck and let them lay there. They were mangled bears. And that's what 354 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:47.799 the problem was, because they're like a wolf pack is potentially capable of doing 355 00:26:47.839 --> 00:26:52.119 this, you know, absolutely capable. If the pack goes after a bear, 356 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.599 it's possible. Okay, so we're in the realm of possibility. But 357 00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.680 who's going to mangle that body and not eat it? That's the thing. 358 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:03.599 If the wolves are going to take the time and energy to kill a bear, 359 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.839 they're going to eat it because they've wasted all their energy killing it. 360 00:27:08.279 --> 00:27:15.240 You know what I mean? Absolutely? Can can you just you said the 361 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.599 bodies were found mangled? Can you? And not to get too crazy, 362 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:26.279 but can you describe like what that exactly means? That they were just broken 363 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:32.480 like they're not They were legs broken, they were mangled like twisted backs and 364 00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:37.839 all kinds, just mangled like they had been manhandled to the poine of death, 365 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:44.480 just manhandled to the point of they're just mangled and left there. And 366 00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.160 that's what I say. If they were if they were killed by another natural 367 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.240 predator, that predator doesn't take all of that time and energy to kill something 368 00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:59.480 like that unless they're going to eat it. That's just natural selection, you 369 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:02.960 know, the energy they spend, they have to get a reserve. Again, 370 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:10.000 they got to eat it, and you're saying that it was just left 371 00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:14.799 there. They're just left there, Yes, And they have the pictures of 372 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.079 them, that's the thing. And I don't know why people are so tight 373 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.920 lipped about this business. You know, if there's if that's happening down in 374 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:30.039 the bear Tooth and Absorca wilderness, that's a playground for millions of people every 375 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:36.480 year. You know what I mean? In your thoughts? What could break 376 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:45.400 the neck of a grizzly bear on the very edge of the realm of possibilities. 377 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.240 Okay, this is all I'm going to say. On the very edge 378 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:55.960 of the realm of possibilities. I have seen bull elk and bull moose that 379 00:28:56.079 --> 00:29:00.799 could probably do that if they absolutely had to in some weird way with their 380 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:06.799 horns. That's the only thing that would be big enough and strong enough to 381 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.240 even attempt to do something like that. There is nothing else out there. 382 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.640 That's why I said the wolves are not going to do that. Wolves are 383 00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.400 not going to do They can't. They don't have hands. There is no 384 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:22.200 other option. And I'm sorry, but that's the truth. There are big, 385 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:29.759 big, big animals out there that are I think that that's what's happening. 386 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.799 I really do. I think that that's what's happening. I think they're 387 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:37.119 being killed by Bigfoot. End of story. There's no other logical explanation, 388 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:44.240 So I'll tell you it's something that's come up at random times. Over the 389 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:52.319 last few years. There's been interviews where talk to a gentleman in Oregon where 390 00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:56.200 he found a black bear that was pretty much mangled by a bigfoot. There 391 00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:02.440 was a hunter that was mangled by bigfoot northern Alabama in a similar way, 392 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:07.640 and just it's wild when you start to connect pieces from different parts of the 393 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.799 country like that. So I was talking to a gentleman a while ago named 394 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:17.599 Ken Metzker. He's a bigfoot researcher in Montana. Have you ever heard anything 395 00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:26.279 where there could be connections between missing for on one cases and bigfoot. Besides, 396 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.920 you know, we did already talk about the one person that was found 397 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.200 on the side of the mountain, But did you have any thoughts about that? 398 00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.599 Oh? Absolutely, because once I started connecting the dots myself, other 399 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:45.720 things that I was listening to and reading and seeing were just like absolutely mind 400 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:51.240 blowing to me, thinking that, oh my gosh, this possibly could be 401 00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:56.000 one of the biggest shocks to people out there. It really could. It 402 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.440 could be one of the biggest things that ever happens, is in finding out 403 00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.880 that these people they go out here, they're not just they're not just disappearing. 404 00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.599 They're they're not just you know, walking off the trail for no dang 405 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.519 reason. These people something's happening to them, end of story. And if 406 00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:17.519 that's what it is, then that's what it is. We need to start. 407 00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.799 Like I'm saying, I'm based in logic and reality, you know, 408 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:25.799 and that's the most logical explanation for any of it is. Actually, but 409 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:30.079 actually seeing something like that and putting all these little pieces together that I didn't 410 00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.720 understand at the time, it does point me in only one direction, really 411 00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:40.119 does. These people are coming in contact with something like that out there, 412 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:45.720 and they're getting the short end of the stick. Absolutely. Over the years, 413 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.400 have you ever heard of any other strange things that have been happening in 414 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:55.079 the Paradise Valley area. Well, there was only one other thing that happened 415 00:31:55.119 --> 00:32:01.599 and was extremely tragic, but this was over in the eastern side of the 416 00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:08.079 state. Was the middle of winter, probably two thousand and eight, something 417 00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:13.039 like that. Two thousand and nine, we had a gentleman that we knew. 418 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.920 He took off to go hunting on his four wheeler. Okay, he 419 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.160 had his four wheeler all packed up because he was headed out. He was 420 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:28.720 going to stay out, and he disappeared, and later on, once the 421 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:36.000 ice kind of broke, they found him attached to his four wheeler in the 422 00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:40.799 river, and they were like, what would make somebody who knows this place, 423 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:44.920 who was born and raised here, who has hunted here their whole life, 424 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:51.680 what would make somebody veer off course and drive over a river they know 425 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:59.400 is not frozen. He absolutely knew that was not frozen. And it makes 426 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:05.079 me think, why what would scare someone that bad that they would lose all 427 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:10.240 all thoughts of safety and drive onto a river they know is not frozen. 428 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:17.599 And his boot got stuck on the bottom peg on his four wheeler and it 429 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:23.839 killed that man. He went down with his four wheeler. Now, I 430 00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:30.039 don't know what else would make you that afraid. You know, absolutely, 431 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:36.759 That's something I've always questioned. Why would a person do that, that is 432 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:40.960 so intelligent, so good at being outdoors, Why would he do that? 433 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:49.920 If the missing four on one events. It's not something that I've looked a 434 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:53.720 lot into, But the things that I have looked into, it's just it. 435 00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:00.039 It does not make sense, and it's just a very scary thing that 436 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:06.759 it does happen, then maybe I'll start to hear more about different things as 437 00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:13.679 well. If you had the ability, or you could make the decision too, 438 00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:22.679 would you choose to have an interaction or see a bigfoot creature again or 439 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:29.239 is it something that you would rather not take part in. No, I'm 440 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:34.960 kind of a I'm kind of an odd duck, Jeremiah. I don't really 441 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:39.079 get Once I think about something and get it in the right place in my 442 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:45.639 head, once I get it straightened out in my head, I'm pretty logical 443 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.360 and really level. Honestly I did. I was a nine one one operator 444 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.199 for several years, and everybody told me that was the best job I ever 445 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.960 did and got because when crap is happening, I don't panic. Okay, 446 00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.840 I'm not the pan I'm the person that will stand there and watch it happen 447 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:07.400 and take note of everything that happens. I'm not a panicker. So after 448 00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.880 I thought about it, I really did. I started listening to stuff and 449 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:15.840 really researching stuff more, and I thought, you know, to me, 450 00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:21.119 I think it would be I think it would be crazy, but I you 451 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.440 know, I think I would. I want to know this, I really 452 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:29.000 do. I want to be one hundred percent sure, and I don't like 453 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:32.800 that question mark in my head for so many years that I could never talk 454 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:37.920 to anybody about because I always did think these people will think I'm nuts. 455 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:42.559 They're gonna put me up in the looney bin if I say anything about this. 456 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:46.320 But I do, I fully, I really do think it scared the 457 00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:50.159 crap out of me at the time, But after I thought about it, 458 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:57.360 I would actually not mind seeing one from a distance, down in a coolie 459 00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.840 like I say, or across the mountain, you know, down in the 460 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.320 valley while I'm up here on the side. I think it would be really 461 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:09.480 interesting to actually see a full figure, the whole thing, and know what 462 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:13.039 it was, you know what I mean, instead of have these questions. 463 00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:19.559 Absolutely, it would be very interesting. You know. I haven't had the 464 00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:22.760 opportunity yet, but it would be very interesting to be able to actually have 465 00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:29.039 a visual for sure. Since you brought it up, do you have a 466 00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.320 question and you can choose whether to answer it or not, of course, 467 00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:37.239 But during your time working nine one one, did you ever receive any calls 468 00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:44.079 of people that had seen a bigfoot. No, I just received calls of 469 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:51.000 the people on the reservation disappearing because I worked in an area that also covered 470 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:57.039 two reservations, and there was there's always a lot of disappearances there, and 471 00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:01.679 sometimes they would find the people's bodies and in the in the river. Sometimes 472 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.559 they would never find them at all. Sometimes they would find them on the 473 00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:08.880 side of a road. Those were the weird ones because it really didn't seem 474 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:16.440 to be any real explanation for what happened to these people. They just disappeared 475 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:22.440 and sometimes they were found and sometimes they weren't, and that was about it. 476 00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:30.480 Wow, that would be definitely I think, what does take a special 477 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:34.199 type of person to be able to take calls for that? And it sounded 478 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:38.840 like you were definitely well equipped to do that. Well, I appreciate that. 479 00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:43.639 That's my entire that's really been my my most of my entire life. 480 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.400 That's been my way I earned my living, you know, as things like 481 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:52.519 that, and so I'm I was hesitant to say anything at first, but 482 00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.000 then I thought, you know, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna talk about 483 00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.360 it and then I'm going to put it to rest. And I'm in Arkansas 484 00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:07.679 now, in Arkansas's I did not have any idea about all the sidings here, 485 00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.119 so now I'm like, oh, man, did I go from the 486 00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:15.039 frying pan into the fire or what? Well, Kathy, you may have 487 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:22.840 depended on where you are. What if you're in northwestern Arkansas, you did? 488 00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:28.559 I did? Oh my goodness. Yeah. I mean I get so 489 00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:35.199 many reports and people talking to me about northwest Arkansas Buffalo River. And then 490 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:42.280 you've got like, because that's close to hittah A National Forest, southeast Oklahoma. 491 00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:47.519 I mean that whole area is just wild with bigfoot. Yeah, yep. 492 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:52.440 I live right in the middle of the National Forest and by Lake Greece. 493 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:59.599 So and that it's X marks the spot basically, Jeremiah, Oh so 494 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:05.039 the Washtaes. Yeah you're there? Yeah, wow the thing? Yeah? 495 00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:09.679 Is this whole place? Man? Holy moly, Yeah, this place. 496 00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:15.159 I won't go anywhere at night I'm not familiar with. And I'm seriously because 497 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.920 I'm I don't want that by myself. I don't ever want to have that 498 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:23.480 interaction by myself. I don't, So I'm pretty picky about where I go 499 00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:30.760 here. You know, it seems like in that area that subject would come 500 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:34.800 up pretty easily. Has that ever come up in conversation with other people down 501 00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.960 there? I've got a couple guys that do a bunch of fishing all over 502 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:44.679 the place. They've actually had little stories that they told me about somebody bothering 503 00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:46.559 them. And I'm not going to say anything to these people. I work 504 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.679 with these people, and the last thing I want them to do is, 505 00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.599 like I said, I think I'm a nut job or something. So they 506 00:39:53.639 --> 00:40:00.960 have these interesting stories about their like their boat going what he ca when you 507 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.920 more your boat basically right when you go up and land your boat, that 508 00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:08.079 they would camp out, do their fishing, camp out and get up in 509 00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:13.519 the morning and somebody had on moored the boat and it's gone, you know, 510 00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:15.679 and they're like, who could do that? You know, why would 511 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.280 someone do that? And who could do that? And just little things like 512 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:28.400 that. But they've never said anything about seeing anything or hearing anything. If 513 00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:30.599 you wanted to look more into it, you're in the right area for sure. 514 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.320 I mean, that's exactly how I feel. And you know, honestly, 515 00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:38.360 I'm becoming more and more and more curious over time, and I think 516 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:45.840 it's because of just all of the information that's out there. I just I 517 00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:52.280 just actually voraciously, you know, go through information over time, and I 518 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.159 just listen to everything I can and read all of this stuff, but I 519 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.880 really do believe, honestly, this isn't the animal. You know, people 520 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:06.880 put so much behind it and everything, and sometimes yeah, weird crap can 521 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:10.920 happen around them. Absolutely, I'm not disclaiming discounting anybody's stories. I don't 522 00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:15.239 know anything about this. This is just my opinion is that they're they're animals, 523 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:20.119 you know, and they're out there, and people should just be aware, 524 00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:24.239 you know, that that's a potential something could happen, you know, 525 00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:29.880 just be careful. I would really hope, you know, in our lifetime, 526 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:36.440 hopefully we get the final answer, you know, whether that's a that's 527 00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:42.840 some specimen or something's captured. It would be great if we could get some 528 00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:46.079 some final answer. But we will see, right, Yeah, it'll come 529 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:50.119 around. Eventually, it'll come around. That's all there is to it. 530 00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.400 That The only thing that needs to happen is there actually needs to be a 531 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:59.039 concerted effort between all these different groups. Seriously, people need to say, 532 00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:04.440 Okay, put all differences aside, We're going to blanket this entire area, 533 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.000 whichever area may be that's the most, that has the most sightings, or 534 00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:13.920 that just blanket the entire area with so many people and so many trail cams, 535 00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:17.000 and just do that, you know, come together. That's the only 536 00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:21.360 thing I see when I listen to all this stuff. Everybody's doing their own 537 00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.760 little thing, and that's awesome. But if you really want to make an 538 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:30.320 impact, work together. Make it happen, because boots on the ground is 539 00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.679 what is going to find this. That's what's going to find this. No, 540 00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.480 I agree. I mean, first off, focus on you know, 541 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:43.239 whether it's a certain area in southeast Oklahoma or maybe Pacific Northwest. But yeah, 542 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.920 just make it like almost a search and rescue but you know, kind 543 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:52.599 of different. Get everyone, but you got to have the manpower behind it. 544 00:42:52.679 --> 00:43:00.119 And I don't know, get Yeah, it always comes back to if 545 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.079 the government's involved or not. That's what it seems to come back to in 546 00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:09.480 these chats. But I'm not too sure about that one. Well that's kind 547 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:14.960 of why I think that way, because that's you know, part of the 548 00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:21.280 job that I did was also support for search and rescue, ambulance, fire, 549 00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:23.639 you know, all of that. And that's exactly how I feel. 550 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:28.559 You take the map out, you grid your map, You put these people 551 00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:30.880 here at this grid, these people here at this grid. You know, 552 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.280 that's exactly what my mind went to, Jeremiah, honestly, is more blank 553 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:39.159 search and rescue, because how do you find a little girl in the middle 554 00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:47.199 of nowhere Custer County, Montana, that's nothing but flat planes and dry scrub 555 00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:52.880 brush and all of this stuff. You know, a little girl went missing 556 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.039 out there. It took us three and a half days to find her. 557 00:43:55.320 --> 00:44:00.559 She was less than a mile away from home. Oh wow, people getting 558 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.519 on four wheelers and horses and walking that area after three days that found her. 559 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:12.800 That's how you do it, you know. Absolutely. Yeah, something 560 00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:16.119 to think about, and it'd be an interesting conversation to start having in the 561 00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:22.719 community, I think, Kathy, it's been a really enlightening conversation. And 562 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:29.920 thank you for finally sharing publicly what you've experienced over the years. I wish 563 00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:34.360 you the best down in Arkansas. Hopefully, well, unless you want it 564 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:39.719 to hopefully things are pretty calm down there for you. But yeah, that's 565 00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:45.920 why I'm crossing my fingers about to Jeremy. It's just just don't break me 566 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:51.719 out too bad, Okay, that's exactly Yeah, no doubt for allowing me, 567 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:54.280 honestly, for allowing me to just get all of this stumb off on 568 00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:59.320 my chest and say this is what happened. Okay, Now I can put 569 00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:04.039 it to bed. That's what I needed. Seriously, absolutely, Oh, 570 00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:07.400 I appreciate that a lot. Thank you, Kathy. You're welcome. You 571 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:12.559 have a wonderful evening. It's been a pleasure. Take good care of yourself. 572 00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:24.440 Okay, unknown, let's go, boy, why to accept? Press 573 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:31.400 one to send a voicemail? Press two? Hey is this David? It 574 00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:37.480 is? Is this David Blaylock it is? Did I say that? Maria? 575 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:42.400 Yeah? You? Ah, okay, very good. Hey, thanks 576 00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:46.679 for calling you did You've already filled out the form, right I did. 577 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.079 That's right. Let me make sure that people can hear us in the If 578 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.960 someone in the chat can say, hey, I can hear David, that 579 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:59.920 would be fantastic. Just want to make sure that we're set up right for 580 00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:13.920 David. No problem. We're gonna wait a oh yeah, okay, we 581 00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.719 can hear perfect, We're ready to rock. Well, David, I know 582 00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:21.440 we were planning on chat and eventually, but I'm glad you called in. 583 00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:25.239 I'm gonna let you go ahead and have the floor and share would you would 584 00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:30.800 like to and I might have some questions, and also, guys in the 585 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:36.280 comments, if you've got questions, go ahead and throw those in the comments, 586 00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:40.599 all caps please, and I'll put those in two potentially, So David, 587 00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:45.760 go right ahead, sir, All right, thank you, Jeremiah. 588 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:50.159 So, my name is David Blaylac and I grew up in northern California, 589 00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:57.119 very near where the Patterson Gimlin film was filmed. And twenty years ago me 590 00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.519 and my wife moved here to goos Bay, Oregon, which is southwest Oregon. 591 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:07.880 And we've hunted elk and deer and bear and everything, camped and done 592 00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:13.239 all the hiking and stuff like that. And for like fifteen years, we 593 00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:17.960 never had any experiences or anything that would lead you to think something was going 594 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:24.880 on until two thy and nineteen. And in twenty and nineteen, two days 595 00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:31.159 before the end of August, elk season started for both seasons for elk, 596 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.960 me and my wife and my sister she followed us up there. We had 597 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:42.119 our truck with a camper overhead camper on our truck and she, my sister, 598 00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:45.559 followed us up in her car and she had her tootle dogs, I 599 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:50.559 mean, my wife had our little menpen dog and we drove up and it 600 00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:54.000 takes about an hour and a half to get there. E'repe like fourteen miles 601 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:59.400 up a dirt road, a gravel road in parts of its dirt, and 602 00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:06.159 it's really a thick area rainforests, a lot of moss on the trees, 603 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:12.280 and you really don't see the ground. It's all just brush and groundcover under 604 00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:17.920 the trees and stuff and big old growth trees. So twenty nineteen, it 605 00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.480 was, I think it was August twenty sixth when we got up there and 606 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:25.519 we showed up the camp spot. My sister had never been there before. 607 00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.599 And like I said, me and my wife had hunted this area for like 608 00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:34.440 fourteen years straight, camped in a tent for the whole month and never had 609 00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:39.880 anything strange happen or anything but this strip. We got up there two days 610 00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:44.400 before the elk season started, and because we wanted to do some scouting and 611 00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.239 stuff and set up camp. And I had a trail camera up there that 612 00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:52.159 I had set up for two months, had it up there two months before 613 00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:54.880 we got there, And so we got there that evening kind of started getting 614 00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:59.719 camp set up, and I ran and got my trail camera right before dark 615 00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:01.480 and came back and we checked it out and there was a bunch of elk 616 00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:06.320 and deer stuff like that on there, but nothing, you know, nothing 617 00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:12.360 else. And about ten o'clock that first night, where me and my wife 618 00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.119 was kind of making noise do some stuff, and my sister was standing there 619 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:16.440 on the road, and it was like ten o'clock at night. Like I 620 00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:22.639 said, it got dark maybe a half hour or something before that. And 621 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:25.719 my sister just like, well, I guess we got company. And I 622 00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.679 kind of looked at her. I'm like, what do you mean. She 623 00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:31.760 goes, well, somebody just made like a banging noise, sound like a 624 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.599 tree knock, but it was a bang up on the ridge up there, 625 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:37.239 And I'm like, where did it come from? And she pointed, and 626 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:42.440 I was my sister, there's nobody up there. There's no roads, there's 627 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.400 no trails. It's just like a steep, thick hillside, like a mountain 628 00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:52.719 side. And they'll have crews. Logging companies will have crews come through when 629 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.880 after they like log an area, they'll replant these trees and then after about 630 00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.280 ten or fifteen years, they'll send cruise in there and they'll cut down certain 631 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:05.480 lunes to kind of thin it and they just leave those ones they cut down, 632 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:07.280 just laying there. So I mean, it's like a thicket can mean 633 00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:10.400 already walked through it. And so when she said that, I was like, 634 00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:14.360 well, I'm just telling you right now, there's nobody camping up there. 635 00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:16.239 And she goes, well, I don't know what that was, and 636 00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:23.000 so I'll make like a long story short shorter, I suppose. And each 637 00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:30.639 day we had stuff like dumps sound like they were being ripped apart, knocking 638 00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:36.800 bounds all around us, and sometimes you'd hear like a knock, and then 639 00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.840 like something was running through the brush like a knock and you could kind of 640 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:45.519 hear it run off. And each time I was like, you know, 641 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:47.280 trying to write everything off like, well, it could have been elk, 642 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:51.960 it could have been deer could have been there, and the knocking could be 643 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.079 like elk crashing antlers because it's about the time they start their rut and stuff. 644 00:50:55.119 --> 00:51:00.400 I was trying to write everything off as normal sound you here in the 645 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:06.119 woods. But in the back of my mind, you know, I suspected 646 00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:13.960 it wasn't normal sounds that you'd hear in the woods. And so it was 647 00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:19.760 the fucking or third day of hunting season. So it'd been like the fifth 648 00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:22.440 day we were up there. My sister rode with us, and we drove 649 00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.639 up this road and we were going to go on this one hunt. Well, 650 00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:30.440 while we're driving up there, we see a herd elk, and those 651 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.719 elk instead of just being like scattered like a herd would be, they were 652 00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:37.519 all like growled in like a like a circle, all really tight, and 653 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.639 they were kind of just walking around each other, like real tight circle. 654 00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.400 And I thought that was kind of strange. But there was a nice bull 655 00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.480 in there, and the bull ended up just kind of separating and going like 656 00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.639 walking off by himself. So me and my wife get out of the rig 657 00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:58.000 and we're bull hunting, and my sister stayed in the truck with the dogs, 658 00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:00.639 and I mean, I just shut the truck off and we just me 659 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:04.480 and my wife got out and started making our hunt, like walking around to 660 00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:07.039 get the wind right and stuff and circling around so we can make the stalk 661 00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:13.360 on of that bowl. And while we were walking down, we couldn't hear 662 00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:15.440 it because we're down in the brush. I mean, like I said, 663 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:20.480 the brushes over your head, so you're just kind of trying to sneak through 664 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.159 the brush, but it's like kind of rubbing on your head and on your 665 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:27.559 body stuff, so you couldn't really hear what's going on around you. Well, 666 00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.159 my sister said, as soon as we left the road and got into 667 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:35.320 the brush, she heard three distinctive knocks, one from like one side of 668 00:52:35.360 --> 00:52:37.719 the elk, one from the other side, and one from like a triangulation. 669 00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:45.360 They were like from three different areas. And while directly after she heard 670 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:49.039 that, she saw she saw us walking into the brush, and she said, 671 00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.400 right behind us, coming the same direction that we had went, she 672 00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:57.360 saw a black, hairy figure and she didn't say what it was, but 673 00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:04.280 just a dark black figure was walking the same trail that we had walked, 674 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:09.039 and like behind us. And so we'd made our hunt and everything, and 675 00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:13.559 we we spoofed the elk ended up and they all ran off. So we 676 00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:16.119 went back to the truck after about an hour or something, and my sister 677 00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:20.320 was like, did you guys hear those knots? And we're like no, 678 00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:22.559 She guys, did you guys see what was behind you? And we're like 679 00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:27.159 no, and she goes, she goes brother's sister, I'm telling you there 680 00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:30.480 was something walking behind you, guys, following you into those elks, and 681 00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:34.719 she goes whatever it was, it was black and it had it was like 682 00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:37.880 had hair on. It wasn't like bald or brown or anything. It was 683 00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:43.360 harry. And we're like, oh, okay, and we've all three had 684 00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:50.920 experiences before this. I'm just telling you guys this experience. And so about 685 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:58.119 the sixth night, I think it was after that, we were sitting around 686 00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.400 our camp spot, which was just on side of this gravel road. There 687 00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:04.960 wasn't any other We saw like one or two vehicles up to this point, 688 00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:07.000 like a week into it, just a couple of vehicles driving by, and 689 00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.480 we're way up in there, but we're just camped on side of this gravel 690 00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:16.320 road on a pullout. So my sister smoked cigarettes and each time she would 691 00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:20.000 get up, I would step up. So let me back a little bit. 692 00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:22.559 Every night before this, we would have our lantern. I had a 693 00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:27.199 shotgun because not for anything, but like bears or mountain lions or whatever, 694 00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:30.159 just protection. I'd have my shotgun leaning against our camper and we'd have a 695 00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:34.840 flashlight in our lantern burning, and you know, just sit out there and 696 00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:39.199 just talk and camp before we go to bed. And so this night we 697 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:45.280 only had a mosquito candle burning, like one of those centronella mosquito candles, 698 00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:50.079 and so it was like really dark. I didn't have my gun or my 699 00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:54.119 flash light out. I just had this like little cheap headlamp on and I 700 00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:57.440 had it on a green setting, so when you turn it on, it 701 00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:00.639 was green, and it didn't light everything up very well, but you could 702 00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:07.639 see eye shine really well. And so every time my sister would you know, 703 00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:10.079 step up into the gravel getting out away from me and my wife so 704 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:13.800 the smoke wouldn't go on our face, she would light her cigarette and I 705 00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:15.960 would just stand up. And this is like ten o'clock at night again, 706 00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:20.280 and so I stood up and shine my light, you know, just to 707 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.119 make sure there was no animals or no bears around her or whatever. And 708 00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:27.199 so this time she got up, and so I got up with her, 709 00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:30.480 and we walked out into the road and I switched on my light and she 710 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.280 was lighting her cigarette, and I looked directly across the road because that was 711 00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.760 the closest trees. And then I looked to my right down the road and 712 00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:43.400 didn't see nothing, turned to my left and glow and behold, here's this 713 00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:49.159 eye shine. And when I walked over and looked to the left, I 714 00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:51.559 had walked about ten feet away from my sister, just kind of. I 715 00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:54.159 was just checking her surroundings, and I was like, oh, we got 716 00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:57.760 eye shine like that. And my sister's like, oh, serious, And 717 00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:00.800 she walked over and she saw the eyes. And my wife was still sitting 718 00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:07.800 beside her camper in her camp chair, and these eyeballs were like a foot 719 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:14.719 apart, and if I had to guess the size of them, each eye 720 00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:17.719 was like the size of a golf ball, I guess or something. But 721 00:56:17.800 --> 00:56:22.199 there was like the shine around it, and they were I had my light 722 00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:24.559 on green, so I don't know if it was that, but they were 723 00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:32.239 like an electric yellow, an electric yellowish green reflection in the eye shine. 724 00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.119 And they were really close to the ground, like a couple of feet off 725 00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:42.079 the ground, but really far apart. And so I'm she's like, my 726 00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:45.719 sister. My sister's like seriously, And she walked up and saw them, 727 00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:51.400 and she was like just like hyperventilated, and she went walking back to her 728 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.480 car really fast and shut her dogs in the car. They were already in 729 00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:57.039 the car, but she rolled up the windows in her car. So they 730 00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:02.000 went jump out, and my wife had our dog and my sister and I'm 731 00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:06.639 just locked onto this thing. And it's not blinking, it's not looking away, 732 00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:12.119 it's just sitting there look staring right at me. And I couldn't see 733 00:57:12.760 --> 00:57:15.840 what I was looking at, but you could just see like the blackest shadow 734 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:20.559 of it, but you couldn't make out of shape. You could just see 735 00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:25.719 that there was a body attached to the eyeballs. And so my sister walks 736 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:30.519 back up after she locked your car, and I'm still just staring at it, 737 00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:35.119 and it's literally about thirty yards from me maybe, and it's right on 738 00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:37.239 the edge of the road, the gravel road that we're on, but there's 739 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:42.239 like a drop off and then it's like a flat off down off that drop 740 00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:46.360 off. And so my mind was thinking it was either a bear or an 741 00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:50.400 elk, just like a quick thought. It was like, it's a bear 742 00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.440 or an elk. But my mind was also saying, it doesn't look right 743 00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:57.920 because bare eyeballs are little, they have little beady eyes, and they're kind 744 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.039 of close together, and elk can I have big eyeballs and are kind of 745 00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:07.119 spread apart. But the eyes were like a foot or two off the ground, 746 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:09.199 which means an elk would basically have to have its head on the ground 747 00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:13.519 for its eyes to be down there. And it didn't make no sense. 748 00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:17.199 And so my sister walked back up saw it again and just like and freaked 749 00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:20.519 out. And finally I was like, I was like, babe, if 750 00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:23.000 I need my flashlight and my gun right now, because I'm at this point, 751 00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:27.079 I'm still thinking it's a bear, That's what I'm kind of thinking. 752 00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:30.719 And so my wife I hear her get up out of her chair and go 753 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:34.039 into our camper and I can hear like doo dunk, and she was getting 754 00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:37.360 the flashlight and the shotgun and I'm still just standing there. I'm not moving 755 00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.079 my head and it's not moving, and we're just locked on each other. 756 00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:44.440 And my wife I can hear it come out of the camper and she's walking 757 00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:49.199 up to my left and she goes, here you go bed, and literally 758 00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:54.239 she bumped my left arm and I turned just for I mean literally half suckond 759 00:58:54.559 --> 00:59:00.920 grabbed the flashlight and the shotgun and turned and whatever it was was already gone, 760 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:07.000 literally half a sucking without a sound. And this place is thick rainforest 761 00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:12.519 stuff, I mean, just like thick brush. Somehow this thing was off 762 00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:16.440 the road and gone in a half a sucking at the most, and so 763 00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:20.039 I was like, where to go? Where to go? And my sister 764 00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:21.880 and my wife's like, I don't know, I don't know. So I 765 00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:23.920 was shining my flashlight around the road, you know, down the road and 766 00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:28.079 on each side of the road, and it was gone. So I kind 767 00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:31.480 of walked towards it and was shining down through the trees as the best I 768 00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:35.559 could, and nothing was there. And I was like, you guys want 769 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.519 me to just cause I'm still thinking there at this point, but I was 770 00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:40.400 like, you guys want me just shoot a warning shot just to make sure 771 00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.239 you don't come back. And they're both like, yeah, go ahead. 772 00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:46.559 So I just put my shotgun up in the air and just you know, 773 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:51.440 shot a shot off. And we stayed up for like an hour or something 774 00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:55.559 talking about it, and nothing happened that night. And so the next morning, 775 00:59:55.559 --> 00:59:59.519 instead of going hunting at daylight, I got up and walked down the 776 00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:02.360 road just the look where it was, and it had been. Whatever it 777 01:00:02.519 --> 01:00:07.920 was was directly behind this kind of rotted stump and you could see on the 778 01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:13.559 hard packed gravel. You could see like scuff marks like it pushed itself back 779 01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:19.400 off the road over that bank, like if it And my assumption was it 780 01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:23.760 whatever it was, was laying with its body down off the road, down 781 01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:27.639 that little bank, and its upper body was on the edge of the road 782 01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:31.000 looking at us around that stump wasn't on stump, it was behind the stump. 783 01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:36.760 The scuff marks were about five feet behind that stump. And so we 784 01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.159 discussed it and everything and thought that was really weird. So I'll just fast 785 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:46.159 forward to like day nine of our hunt. Was everything was normal. I 786 01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:50.039 mean like each day something was going on. We could hear stuff. It 787 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:54.480 never saw anything and never had anything weird. Well, night of the ninth, 788 01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.920 about nine point thirty, as it's starting to get dark, we start 789 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:06.639 hearing this owl, you know, just a classic like bard owl. And 790 01:01:07.079 --> 01:01:10.000 my sister was getting her drinking on me and my wife did drink or nothing. 791 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:14.400 So we were just sitting there listening and my sister was calling back and 792 01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:15.559 forth this owl, and I was like, Keith, Indy, you want 793 01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:19.239 me to call. She's like, yeah, go ahead, And so I 794 01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:22.119 would do the who you know call, and the out me and the owl 795 01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:25.400 was talking back and forth for like a half hour, and my sister has 796 01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:29.880 this recorded on her phone, and I even joked about, hey, Cindy, 797 01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:34.000 it's like on Jurassic Park with the owls keeping our attention over here while 798 01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:37.199 the other things sneaking up behind us, and we laughed and stuff about it. 799 01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.559 So about ten o'clock, ten thirty at night, we're getting ready to 800 01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:45.360 go to bed, and my wife was wanting to take our little dog to 801 01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.480 the bathroom before we got in the camper. So she started walking the dog 802 01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:53.000 around on the leash and stuff, and our dog was like nervous and wouldn't 803 01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:57.519 go and go and go. So I walked over there and like, you 804 01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:00.519 know, Peanut, gout, go to the bathroom, Peanut, go poopy 805 01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:02.960 bee. And she just would and would and wouldn't. And so my sister 806 01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:06.800 was sitting over there by our camp and still calling back and forth to the 807 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.800 owl, recording it, and and my wife, Didi, she was like, 808 01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:14.280 I think Cindy's calling is making our dog nervous. So I said, 809 01:02:14.280 --> 01:02:15.920 hey, Cindy, can you stop calling for a minute, so Peanut and 810 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:20.719 go to the bathroom. So she's like, okay, Well she stops recording 811 01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:24.239 on her phone, of course, and and you know it's quiet for a 812 01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:28.280 second. Our dogs still wouldn't go. So I picked up our dog and 813 01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:31.159 we were walking over to my sister. And right when I get to my 814 01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:35.159 sister, we hear the owl go off again. So we all stop, 815 01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:37.679 and we're and I'm holding our dog, and we're all looking up across that 816 01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:43.719 flat as a creek, and then it goes up the steep old growth treeze 817 01:02:44.639 --> 01:02:49.599 breed ridge, and that was behind our camp. And so that owl was 818 01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.199 coming right across that flat, right in those trees, like one hundred yards 819 01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:55.760 away or something like that. And but this time when it called, it 820 01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:04.519 did like and it kind of went down into like this angry sound, like 821 01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:08.480 an angry owl, and immediately to the left of that it did like a 822 01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:15.119 kyot yep, like a coyote yip. And then left of that this war 823 01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:22.559 that I mean freight trains and air horns and anything lion like African lions if 824 01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:27.760 you've heard them at the zoo, that war they do. Who that was 825 01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:36.159 nothing compared to the volume and the depth and the I don't know how to 826 01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:39.079 explain it. It shook your chest. It was so loud, and you 827 01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:45.400 could hear the trees ringing like and then it was like dead quiet, and 828 01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:50.079 I just looked up, and I don't cuss very often, but I was 829 01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:52.840 like, what the F was that? And my sister and my wife were 830 01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:58.360 all just standing there like our jaws just gaped open because it went from this 831 01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:03.280 angry owl to a kyote it to this war and I was like, we 832 01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:08.679 need to go right now. So I literally grabbed my shotgun and my flashlight 833 01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:12.840 and stood there shining the direction it came from, while my wife went and 834 01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:16.719 got her purse and our medicine bag and all that stuff like our essentials, 835 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:21.880 and my sister was loading whatever she had outside of camp, just throwing it 836 01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:26.559 into a car. And we literally left our camper up there for a week 837 01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.639 and we just just beat feet down the road and we had to drive past 838 01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:34.760 that area. So I told my wife to drive and when we're going by 839 01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:38.760 this is like I said, about ten thirty at night, I had my 840 01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:43.119 window down with my shotgun out the window and my flashlight shining in the direction 841 01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.519 just in case it was charging us. As we were leaving. We didn't 842 01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:49.880 know what was going to happen, so we ended up leaving our camper up 843 01:04:49.920 --> 01:04:54.440 there for a week. And a week later we went up there and I 844 01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:58.880 had trail cameras around our camper just because I had them around there, and 845 01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.679 we didn't get anything. Trail cameras or in our camp are fine. I 846 01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:08.400 didn't see any fingerprints or handprints on the windows or anything like that. Everything 847 01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:13.719 was normal. So we picked up our camper a week later, and we've 848 01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:16.119 never camped at that spot since we camped up in those woods, but never 849 01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:25.199 in that same spot. So that's kind of like twenty nineteen story. Who 850 01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:29.199 David, that's man? That is wild. I don't think I've talked to 851 01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:32.679 anyone else from that area yet, but I just want to say real quick, 852 01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:36.840 we've got about one hundred people watching live, and I just want to 853 01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:42.320 say thanks to everyone watching live. This is the Bigfoot Encounter's live show, 854 01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:45.960 big Foot Society. And read that what's scrolling at the bottom if you've gotten 855 01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:50.760 encountered to call in with But David, Man, what an interesting And I 856 01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:55.480 was going to ask you about the pattern, if there's a pattern to the 857 01:05:55.519 --> 01:06:00.039 Knox, but you already had mentioned that you were hearing like three that's a 858 01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:04.519 that's a common thread I've heard come up in a few encounters, like you 859 01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:11.159 usually hear three knocks. So that's really interesting that you did bring that up 860 01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:15.679 where it was almost like the triangulation of the knocks going on as well. 861 01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:20.079 Did your sister tell you how far away or how far behind the figure was 862 01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:25.599 behind you guys when you left, there's that black figure that was that was 863 01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:31.239 following you. She said it literally like when we she lost sight of us, 864 01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:34.239 we were probably I would say, you know, two or three hundred 865 01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:39.480 yards away from the truck when we entered into the brush to kind of make 866 01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:42.920 our sneak, And she said she could see us, you know, like 867 01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:45.679 parts of us every now and then kind of going through the brush. Yeah, 868 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:47.559 And as soon as she lost side of us, she said, from 869 01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:53.239 where she could see us going into the brush, like something immediately was falling 870 01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:58.119 right behind us, like like right behind us. I don't know how close, 871 01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:02.679 but yeah, Like and so I kind of suspect this is just speculation 872 01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:08.840 that the reason why those elk were all in a bunch like that was maybe 873 01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:14.320 they were hunting those same elk. Yeah, that's just my thought. Wow, 874 01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:16.639 that's yeah, I mean, that's that is wild. The part with 875 01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:21.880 the eyeshine was was very interesting. There's a few back and forth comments that 876 01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:25.639 were interesting. Tate, what had some you know, he was like, 877 01:07:25.679 --> 01:07:27.840 well, maybe a mountain lion, and you know, I was thinking that 878 01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.800 too, but I you know, I was also thinking that you had mentioned 879 01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.440 that the eyes were very big, and they were they were super you know, 880 01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:36.639 far apart, and but I was like, well, he said it 881 01:07:36.679 --> 01:07:40.280 was only a few feet off the ground. So then I'm thinking, well, 882 01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:45.440 maybe we're looking at some sort of like spider crawl or on all four's 883 01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:51.679 situation, which might explain how you could have the eyes so far apart but 884 01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:57.000 yet so close to the ground. It's it's a very interesting situation. So 885 01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.760 I don't know if you have any thoughts about that. Well I do, 886 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:03.159 and I thought and my son was the first one to suggest, you know, 887 01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:06.119 here we call him cougars, but they're mountain lions. He thought that, 888 01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:09.559 and I was like, well, you know, it's possible, but 889 01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:13.599 look at a cat. Look at a cat. Their eyes are not they're 890 01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:15.800 not that huge. They're you know, pretty good size around, but they're 891 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:20.520 not that far apart. And the weird thing is, okay, that could 892 01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:25.520 be an explanation but explain to me how it knew when I turned and grabbed 893 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:29.359 the chokun and then the flashlight. How at that instant that is when it 894 01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:32.439 was gone. You know that kind of was I suspected that was kind of 895 01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:38.279 weird, which I suppose if you unlock eyes that might be when they move. 896 01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:42.840 I mean, I could get that too. But the thing Jeremiah about 897 01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.239 it was that this was, like I said, the gravel road, and 898 01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:48.840 then where it was was right on the lip where it dropped down like about 899 01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:53.319 ten feet, like the bank dropped down like ten feet, and then there 900 01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:58.319 was a flat and it could have been like a spider crawler down in that 901 01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:00.640 on all fours, or it could have been just laying with its body off 902 01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:04.520 the road and its upper body was on the road on the edge of the 903 01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:12.199 road. Whatever it was, its scuffed hard at gravel. You can see 904 01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:18.119 like three distinct scuff marks were like, yeah, pushed itself back. That's 905 01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:24.319 so interesting, And I mean, you guys had some weird stuff going on 906 01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:28.600 there, and it's cool that you guys were out there for not just two 907 01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:30.119 or three nights. I mean you're out there for what'd you say, at 908 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:35.279 least nine days and then you had it out. Yeah, that ninth night, 909 01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:39.239 we had it out. Me and my wife went camping the next weekend, 910 01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:42.800 but in a whole different spot and I literally, I mean I've never 911 01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:46.119 been. I'm not afraid of any animals, but literally I was in like 912 01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:50.399 cold sweat trying to go to sleep the first night back out camping. I 913 01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:53.920 was like, just leave me alone. Just leave me alone, That's what 914 01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:58.359 I was thinking. Right, Ah, that's wild. Let's see. Let's 915 01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:02.079 see here looking through to see if we have any questions for you here. 916 01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:06.119 Oh t is asking have you ever been to the Patterson Gimblin film site at 917 01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:11.079 all? I have not. I've been, I've been it, but not 918 01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:17.520 I haven't done the actual hiking. Now I've been over and over. Oh 919 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:23.399 okay, cool, you've got a Oh yeah, can's okay. kN Squatch 920 01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:27.720 says, what about David's experience of something trying to get into his family's trailer 921 01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:32.119 when he was a kid. Yeah, that's a whole nother long story, 922 01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:36.880 gotcha, gotcha. I could give a short version of it, or I 923 01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:41.399 can wait. We can wait until I do the actual thing with you, 924 01:10:41.520 --> 01:10:45.760 if you want, or whichever you want. So I would say that maybe 925 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.640 let's do a part two because I want to make sure that you can do 926 01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:54.880 all the details and give it, you know, give all you need to. 927 01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:59.680 So let's let's maybe hold, let's wait until you come on the show, 928 01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:02.079 which I know is coming up. So there will. I got a 929 01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:05.800 story and I got another one where it's basically your I felt like I grew 930 01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:10.279 up, which is in Weaberville, California, in Triney County, California, 931 01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:16.840 and that that one is a whole nether, a whole nether experience. So 932 01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:23.159 David, I'm excited to chat with you on the show. How are you 933 01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:30.359 do you go to any festivals in Oregon? There's one coming up that probably 934 01:11:30.439 --> 01:11:33.319 will go to. It's over I think it's over by oak Ridge or something 935 01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:38.279 like that. I'll see you there, yeah, or nice there you go. 936 01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:41.319 I think I'll be at that and we go. We've been to the 937 01:11:41.399 --> 01:11:46.920 Bigfoot Museum with Cliff Bradman Museum. Been there, but really that's about it. 938 01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:51.159 Cool at this point, we're going to LBL though, Oh you're going 939 01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:59.359 all the way out to LBL. Yeah, we're going. When we're gonna 940 01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:03.960 be there, we're gonna arrive in and Nashville on a third, uh, 941 01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:06.760 and then we're gonna actually go out to the l on the Fort and then 942 01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:11.840 we're coming back on the eighth, just by yourself for you going out with 943 01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:16.439 a group. Me and my wife are going there and there's a whole huge 944 01:12:16.439 --> 01:12:20.319 group. Oh is it the thing that Squashing Hollers was talking about in the 945 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:26.039 comments? Yeah, the mean grete. Oh man, dude, that's awesome. 946 01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:31.600 You're going all the way out for that. We're flying man. Yeah, 947 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:36.239 and I'm in Iowa and I'm not even going someday. Oh man, 948 01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:40.399 you gotta go. I know, I know. It sounds like it's not 949 01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.720 just going to be a one time deal. I bet it's going to be 950 01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:46.520 going on more than once. So yeah, you know, like with Sodusty 951 01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:50.079 with be TV and stuff, they've they've done for years. So it's oh 952 01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:55.359 okay, cool kind of not maybe an annual thing, but maybe every couple 953 01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:58.680 of years they do it. I goesh, Well, David, thank you 954 01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:03.239 so much for for sharing Sharon your one story of it sounds like many stories, 955 01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:09.359 and we'll be chatting again in the future for sure. You're very welcome, 956 01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:13.159 and I thank you for having me on man yeap talk to you. 957 01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:15.600 Later, dude. All right, have a go on. All right, 958 01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:24.560 just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my 959 01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:29.880 listeners for listening to the podcast. 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