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Well. In this episode, Danny and I talk about a game I
saw on milf manor Too. It goes to your phrase that you've always used,
we never grow up, we just grow It was like it was it
was craziest. It was the craziest. I didn't even know what They can
also look at how wars affected generations, even if you weren't in the war,
were still affected. My father asked as my fault. My father's Vietnam
was Vietnam age and he couldn't go because he had flat feet and cross eyes.
That'd been a blessing. Seriously, he wanted to. And Danny's lived
this, but his take is very different than you'd think, probably that I
know some I have talked to some people who have cheated on their significant others.
They're still together and with the yeah, and the reason was because they
had some broken compulsion in their life. It had nothing to do with love.
All that more coming up right after this and Rochester when your old career
gives you lemons throwing some ice mixed in some vodka. Podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler. Dot's Jeep Ram.
It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome. Thank
you for getting your pat on, Thanks for telling a friend. That's how
we spread the word about the pirate ship. Danny's here and he brought me
a gift. Yes, oh Danny, you don't understand. Danny's doing a
diet and this is this isn't will sound like an ad and it's it's really
not, because when I'm he's paying for this. But I did the restoration
wellness, uh, custom fat loss, and I lost I don't even know,
twenty thirty pounds and uh it was great, and I kept it off
for a while and then slowly my habits changed and things changed and your life
changes hard. And so I turned fifty. Yeah, it wasn't even really
turning. It's funny you say that blames everything on me turning forty. Yeah
I didn't. I didn't. That's when my weight took a turn. No,
mine didn't. At fifty, Mine did not. Okay, But I
also maybe I'm starting to think, like, chronologically, I may be younger
than I don't know. I know that sounds a little weird and stupid for
me to say, because I have no idea, but I noticed, like
there are certain things that happen in people's bodies, and I'm like, a
few years later, yeah I was, but I was always sort of that
way. But anyway, the custom fat loss that Danny's doing, You've lost
twenty pounds, which I think is amazing. I've lost twenty pounds in how
long it's been fourteen days, fourteen days. That that's amazing. It's amazing.
I mean people would give their left kno right tity for five hundred alex
people who are like I'd rather have crowds so I can give a pinky top,
right. I mean people would, right, people would do that.
But in there they also have this pink salt. It's not exactly Himalayan salt.
It's some kind of Hawaiian salt from a volcan I don't know what the
fuck it is, or a blend of something. I loved it. I
would throw this on literally everything. My favorite when I was really deep in
the diet was blueberries and almonds, like a cup of each, or maybe
half a cup of the almonds, because the almonds can really bind you up.
Yeah, they can cause migraines too, And almonds had to stop.
And I would sprinkle this on there and it tasted like ice cream to me,
and I was like, damn, I got some good stuff. They
told us. They told us no nuts on this. Yeah. I might
have been after, okay, maybe after. I don't remember. That stuff's
good. I mean it's really good. It's hydrating, it's gotten all kinds
of nutrients. You don't need a lot of it or it's not like regular
table salt. It's like really good for you salt. Yeah, and you
only need like an eighth of a tea spoon. But you can, I
can. You can only get it there. Yeah right, yeah, now
you can go in and buy it. Yeah, yeah, you can go
in and buy it. I'm cheap. It was a very nice thing of
you. Hey, bro, you're my bro bro. All right, Well,
happy fourth of July. So your fourth of July or third of July
present, Okay, you know what to go great with Billy Doug's Deviled eggs.
Makes everything taste everything tastes. That's funny. That's very funny. Uh
yeah, well you know we're we're uh to kind of pull back the curtain.
We're taping this word It will run after fourth of July and we'll talk
about some things. But uh, one of the things that has gone on
this week on the podcast is we had Rebecca and I'm going to get their
last name wrong, but Rebecca is on milf manor took milf mannor milf manor
the first show. Those are the ladies you had when when Matt and uh
yes and and Mark Mark, we're here. Yes, Why did I go
to Matt first? I don't know. I was sitting close closest to Mars,
so I never told them I got this call. Do you'm a sedative?
I got a call from somebody who said, hey, not sure if
you're aware of this, but these people are making the rounds and they're doing
spoken word stuff, and I think you do a great job with them.
And here's here's the number. So I'm like, all right, and so
I throw I throw it out to Kevin. I say, hey, man,
if you can, here's the number, if you don't mind calling this
chick, and the chicks like, how did you get my number? And
I and he could then pum it off and say it was me because I
don't want her to tell her. I don't want to tell her what get
my number? I don't want to tell her where I got well, right,
but when someone calls your cell phone out of the blue, right,
and I don't want to tell her where I got it because I don't want
to blow in the person who did this for me, who works in TV.
So I was like, okay, anyway, So she comes in and
are you familiar with milf manor Yeah, only from talking about it on this
show. All right, So we're hearing about it on the show I've never
talked about all right. So milf matter. The first one I watched like
an episode of it, and it's it's women between the ages of forty five
and sixty sixty and guys between the ages of twenty one and twenty seven?
Is this the one where like one woman's son was part of it? So
what the What they didn't know was the twist was that in the first season
it was the sons of the mothers were there and they were the young guys.
So it would be your mom hitting on me and my mom hitting on
you potentially, right, potentially the first time, so potentially then so then
the uh and I watched, I was like all right, yeah, okay,
and then I went then this one comes around and I wouldn't normally watch
it. So she comes in and the twist this time, so we learned
that she was supposed to be on the first one. Her son had reached
out to be in a reality dating show. They contact him, They say
to him, do you have a hot mom? He says yeah, He
sends in a picture of his mom. They say yeah, I know.
They say, well, she's like a fitness and fitness person. I have
a hot mom. Well yeah. So anyway, he finds out what the
twist is and goes, mom, I don't want to do this, So
then they're gonna do milk too when they contact her, and she goes,
I don't have twenty days I can devote to this. So then a couple
of weeks later they contact her and goky, can you come like as a
mid season person? So she comes in in episode seven. Oh okay,
all right. So the twist and this one is it's uh same age difference,
younger guys, older women, And then all of a sudden, the
dads of the guys show up and they're in the mix. One brings an
uncle and not a dad, so it's like relatives uncles are dad, but
older generations. Now the women have to choose between guys their age or guys
that are are my kid's age. So it would be like me and Jordan
being on this show. Right, That's exactly what it is, Daddy.
I can see like somebody having a breakdown. It's not fair, Dad,
tell me about it. Try being my age just isn't a side I talked
to my man yesterday. Right, he's going through stuff to get into grad
school, and he's he's and then so freaking hearts that and he's flying down
to see Jackson, who has moved to New York City. Oh he's already
moved. Oh yeah, yeah, I'll give you that story a little while.
That's not a Jackson, that's right. So then we uh saw.
Then he starts talking about he starts going off on people. No one supported
him, and now they're all over social media saying I'm so proud look at
what he did. Blah blah blah he was. It's all bullshit, Like
we know some people like that, this has nothing nothing to do with you.
Don't open your mouth, don't say anything, and has nothing to do
with you. It's like, just let it go now you show up.
Yeah oh yeah. But they thought it was all good. They were not
for this, anow. They're telling the world they were for it, and
I know and I know different, and I'm like, I don't care.
Every look. I don't believe in re carnation, especially between cartoons and people.
But Jordan could be the next Abe Simpson. But good for him standing
up for his brother, though, so good for Jordan. So then yeah,
so he was, but that's what it would be like me and him
being on the show. So then Mark came back in on the last episode
or an episode last week The Soldier, and he told and he had watched
it, and he said he picked up an episode five to just get a
little bit of before Rebecca came on, and he said that he said,
in his opinion, it was there was nobody likable. None of the women
were likable. And he goes, when she came on, she did a
great job. So I go home and that after that episode and I'm like,
you know what, I'm gonna watch the episode that she arrives on.
Well, Danny, they play a game. They play games. It's a
reality show, dating show, right. Just to give you an aside,
again, my father lives kind of in a retirement community and they do some
things at the community center. And I think it was last year Memorial Day
they had barbecue when they played a game. And I used to play this
on the radio when I was at jack Asters. A guy puts a plunger
between his legs stick out. Woman at the other end of the room has
a has a roll of toilet paper between her legs. You've got to put
the stick without using your hands. They got to put the stick into the
toilet paper. My father went on about what a disgusting game, and I
mom, oh, I can't believe this, And these people are radio olds.
Who wants to watch that with these disgusting everybody's over seventy five, you
want to see this kind of He was going crazy this game last night on
the reality show milf manor two takes the fucking Cake? Oh really? Oh?
Does it take the cake? Each father and son had two. They
were a team. So a woman would put a piece of watermelon between her
legs. The guys would be They would sit down, put a piece of
watermelon between like their legs. The guys had their hands handcuffed, handcuffed behind
their back. They get down on their knees and they have to eat the
watermelon from between their legs, and they could tap out and get the other
person to jump in and finish. Upt go. One guy's going. One
guy's father's screaming at him when he's doing much. Way, come on,
get it, eat it, eat it, hit it, look it suck
it. It's like, oh my god, oh my fuck you gut.
This is the worst I go. That is the trashiest, the trash.
Their faces are all wet. One lady's going like, a how wet?
This is so hot? It really happened, and I'm going home. He's
got some skills. It goes to your phrase that you've always used, we
never grow up, we just grow It was like it was. It was
craziest. It was the craziest. I didn't even know what to think of
it. I could not. I couldn't wrap my head around it. I'm
like, man, my old man would find this to be the most disgusting.
Yeah, you should send it to him. Hey, Dad, watch
this. Can you imagine you and I doing this? No, I couldn't.
If they bring a grad dad with three generations of Milt's manner, that's
what we're getting. Filth manner is what it is. Filth manner. Yeah,
I mean I remember, like when I was in college Paradise, Sally
was the big Fisher bar. Yes, And there was this station that wasn't
yours that did this thing where they had guys eat the muffin. And what
they would do is the women would put a muffin between their legs and the
guys would have to go and eat it. Whoever finished in a certain at
won the prize. Yeah, like tickets for some game or I love that.
Now I would have done a game like that. I wouldn't. I
would have done a GameLine gap when I was doing Afternoon, I could have
seen you do that. Absolutely, I did everything else. How did I
not think of that? Eat the Muffin got them? I missed the boat?
Yeah, so right there. I mean we did toys for Tots,
tots whatever it was. Yeah, did you do midget and bum bowlding?
No, I didn't like that stuff. I didn't like that either. I
don't like any of them, but I didn't like that. I don't like
games and take advantage of people that are just uh how do I phrase it.
It's not take advantage of people, because you could say you could say
anything I did back it on the radio. We would probably fall into that
category in some way. But I don't like them where they're humiliating people for
something that they can't control. You know what I mean. If you choose
to come in and play Eat the Muffin and we're all laughing and it's just
a good time, and you're willing to embarrass yourself way. I'm all for
that, right right. I'm not taking like the disabled guy and going,
hey man, you know the guy who's slightly on the spectrum, going,
wouldn't you like to eat him? I hate that kind of stuff. I
never liked that. I didn't which maybe sounds hypocritical, but I hope people
understand what I'm saying. I never like. I go back to the theory
of I love busting balls. I love having a good time. I love
a laugh. I love a laugh at my expense. I love and I
hope that everybody else is kind of of the same mind and cool with shit.
I don't think people are. I think people take themselves a little too
seriously and can't always you know, and I do too at times. But
I don't like where it's hurting somebody physically or knocking them because they're you know,
slightly different. Although I did do that as well, I just thought
of it. I used to take a big fat guy, big fat no,
no, big fat guy called him bad joke boy. He had terrible
jokes. Oh yes, he's still around, yeah, And I used to
take him to a bar and he would come out and we would play a
tribute game and if you lost, your punishment was you had to drink ass
al Oh yeah, we poured it down his back and caught it in a
glass just before the crack of his ass, and you had to drink it.
And that guy came and I would pick him up sometimes to take him
and then yeah, no humiliating. I mean, you're only doing it because
he's fat and gross. Yeah that's not so. I am as guilty of
as anybody of that ship, you know, and that that now bothers me.
But at the time it was like, let's doll. Yeah, well
eat the muffin would have been better. Yeah, because you have volunteers.
Because you have volunteers, people think it's funny. And you know most people
are if they're gonna play anyway that watch milk Man or two if you can.
Yeah, maybe I'll catch that, Maybe maybe you won't. Between Bible
studies, I did see a I was talking to a friend of mine,
and you know they have all the tents for the fireworks and stuff that you
can buy. Oh yeah, yeah, you see a lot of them out
where you live, right, Oh yeah, absolutely, there everywhere. Gosh,
So I knew somebody who went in there and they bought something and it
came to like an odd number, like sixty three dollars and sixty three cents
or something. So they gave the person because they wanted some change back or
whatever. They gave them seventy dollars and sixty five cents. And the kids
couldn't figure out. Yeah, they couldn't figure it out. They couldn't figure
it out. And they got back twenty six dollars in change, okay,
and so they go. The person was like, I didn't know whether I
should just leave and take my stuff, so they stayed and they gave the
dead. But these were high kids, Like, yeah, high school kids,
and at least they're working. Yes, they're trying, yes, yes,
yes, And I don't know, calculator if you feel pressure like in
that moment or you can't. They couldn't figure it out. They couldn't figure
it out. And I'm like, all right, we're just like, well,
what are they doing in schools with matt I I don't know. I
think it could be an anxiety thing. I think here's what I worked at
a restaurant and a castro just or when you had to punch it every single
digit right and so my uncle always told me, and my man, our
manager, Drew always told me, just just whatever they give you, just
put it in the machine and the machine will figure yes, yes, yeah,
so they will. Couldn't have twenty six seventy and they hand you fifty
five dollars punching fifty five dollars and it'll give you the chase shame. And
a calculator would do the same thing. I don't even think they had one.
Maybe they have their phone though, which has a calculation. WHI has
a calculator, But I think I've been there though, but they had He
said, I think most people were paying by debit or credit because they had
one of those Oh okay, those touch pads. Not a touch pad,
square, yeah, square that would fit on your Would you like to offer
a tip? This guy was paying cash and they had cash. You could
do cash, but they couldn't figure it out. A lot more people are
paying cash now out of paranoia. Who are these lots of people? Well,
because the story was that if you went to Gander Mountain, or if
you went to what's that one store in Henrietta that's like a it's like a
good sporting good store. If you went to any of those sporting good stores
or Dicks and you bought AMMO or guns or even bibles that you know that
or bibles like the credit card companies or whatever, would like report it back
to the FBI or the CIA. Now I don't. I'm not saying that
that's happened. I'm saying that people are talking about that and are aware,
and then that's why they're using cash because there they feel they feel target because
you can pretty much track everything, I mean Amazon, when you buy stuff,
they pretty much have a profile of you at this point, you know,
wants more. Tony Robins books did well. Have you ever like embarrassed
yourself when you felt pressure? Because I was of different points when I was
a teenager. Every baseball game I ever played, okay when I was especially
if my old man showed up. Yeah yeah, swing. I didn't swing
the bat for the first year and a half of my baseball career. Yeah,
swing the bat. Okay, Yeah, I know the feeling I was.
I remember being at an orthodontists appointment and they would take you from the
waiting room where like your parents and all were, and then they had another
waiting room in the back and it was really small, and if you sat,
you'd almost have be touching knees with the person across from you, and
they would quickly come and put you in one of the chairs. And I
remember this girl and I just thought she was like really pretty, and I
remember like noticing her in the lobby. Then we're in that little room together
and she keeps kind of looking at me, and I'm looking and she would
look down and all this stuff, and it was like that non verbal flirting
kind of and I was like totally smitten with this girl. Start yeah,
yeah. So now we're done and we're waiting in the waiting room and she's
up at the window checking out. And I don't know if her mom was
there, maybe she was old enough to drive. I don't remember. All
I know is that I could not take my eyes off of her sitting next
to my mother. She's up at the window, she's done, and I
get up and I just start walking toward her, and I'm just like hi,
and I go and I stand at the window and the woman looks at
me and goes, what And I go, oh, I don't know.
She goes, we'll call you, we'll call you. We're getting to you,
and I sit down. My mother goes, what are you doing?
And I was like, I I was so like looking out of body experience.
It was like it was weird. It was one of those things that
was weird. And I go that that's so. I felt a little bad
for the kids at the thing because we do talk about kids today and what's
going on and problems and all that, and they eat more processed food than
ever before, which leads to brain chemistry issues, which leads to anxiety,
which leads to like those nervous moment. Plus, you're a teenager, your
brain's not fully developed. Yeah, I don't You're probably right. I mean,
I don't know with all that stuff that may be true. I was
thinking this because somebody said to me something about you know my kid, and
uh, he's fourteen. I said, look, he doesn't live with me.
So but I think like when I was a kid, we there were
three networks and we only got two on a good day. So there wasn't
this constant barrage of things to look at and distract you. Yes, right,
you get bored. Let alone in your pocket, you get bored,
and any one of us can jump on social media immediately and be entertained and
then we lose twenty thirty two hours, twenty thirty minute. You know,
it doesn't matter, And somebody goes, yeah, you know that's the thing.
Kids around it all the time. I go, well, the problem,
the problem that I see easier said than done. I got two sons
who were in there out they around their own basically, and I got a
fourteen year old who lives with his mother. So really, I feel like
I cannot say this, but it's almost like there's no backbone in parenting,
right, you know what I mean, there's no backbone in parenting because at
fourteen, I don't think I was allowed to even make decisions for myself.
At nineteen, I wasn't allowed to make decisions. Okay, you come back
home Dan from college? My rules, yeah, my father, Yeah,
my froably could be a lot of freedom. But at the same time,
I couldn't just get in the car and drive the Buffalo. That was like
driving to New York City. There's criminals. Yeah, I mean, like
my father had a different My father had a very small world and he's very
protective and he knew that like, well, you know me now, I
haven't really changed all that much. Forty four years. I'm very naive,
very trusting, and I could be taken advantage of very easily. I've gotten
better at it, but still, you know, watch an infomercial. Oh
wow, that makes a lot of sense. But you know, if my
father knew that about me, so he's like, you're not going to that
wrestling pay per view, I don't care. I'm nineteen dead, I bought
the tickets. I can do what I want. The hell you can.
Yeah, so yeah, I mean, yeah, so I know the feeling
nowadays kids at fourteen they're like treated like thirty year olds. Well the problem
is, like so when you hear things like there's TikTok and stuff, and
I go, yeah, because I feel like a lot of times the lines
have gotten blurred, the lines have gotten way blurred and into adulthood. You
mean, well, I don't know, because I brought this up on a
recent episode I Don't Milk Man or two, in which we just talked about
I don't remember when fifty year old women dress like that, and it was
it was okay, And I'm not saying it's not okay. Try to follow
me on this because I think people take it the wrong way. I'm just
saying that I don't remember women they looked a age appropriate or of their age.
I don't remember. I remember some people's moms were pretty, but I
don't remember hot mom coming in a short supperazz gins right or whatever. I'm
and there's nothing wrong with that if you look good in it. But it
was almost like back then, it was like you were trying to be younger.
This woman came in and like a haltered she looked great, she looked
fine, and nothing outrageously inappropriate. But just like, go back to nineteen
ninety four, go back to nineteen eighty four, go back forty years,
and I don't think I don't remember seeing that. Oh no, I don't
remember. No, oh no, No, moms didn't like Yeah, it's
like you said, like, oh yeah, her mom's a slut. Yes,
that was a conversation, And the truth was, looking back, she
wasn't. No, she just wanted to look good and stay young. And
you know the the I mean age ate nothing but a number according Mary J.
Blige, Yes, and that's when that song came out, actually ninety
four. And the thing is is that she was right, yeah, because
I mean, you don't want to buy you don't want to throw into Wilford
Brimley at forty four SULD. But here's okay, but here's my question.
Okay, here's my question. Does that then this would be more a philosophical
level. When I'm trying to stay younger and now I'm almost competing, like
on milf Man or two there's a twenty father and son competing for the same
woman. It's attention right normally, do you see what I'm saying? So
now I'm trying to be friends with my kid. Well, if I'm trying
to be my friends with my kid when they're twenty and be cool, I'm
probably being friends when they're thirteen fourteen and letting them kind of hey yeah,
tiktokh, what are you gonna do? Can't put the genie back? And
well, no, you can take the fucking phone. Yeah, you shouldn't
be your kid's friend. No, And there's oftentimes where I think it probably
makes it more difficult for his mom. But I'll get calls like, hey,
dad, can you send me twenty bucks? And I go, no,
no, Well what am I going to do? I got, I
got I'm coming to see and I don't have AirPods or whatever. I go,
not my not my problem. You see, I never braw dolls braw
dog. Well, right, that's my father for money. Yeah, I
had to earn it well also, and he does. He washed his windows
and does a lot of stuff. He's playing a lot of basketball now,
going to a lot of basketball camps and trainings and stuff like that. So
I think that's taken up most of his time. And the flipsite. You
never don't let you ask, Okay, I'm not playing that. No,
no, no, no no. But I also think that it's a slightly
different dynamic in that Dad's not here and Dad does whether he knows it or
not. Dad feels very guilty about that at times, really does, so
I would so naturally for most of the time, I would be like,
I would get calls, hey, uh my buddy, and can you say
he's twenty dollars for snacks? And I would, and then I started going,
no, I'm not doing it, because first of all, you're not
spending on anything healthy. You're not getting anything good out of it, you
know. And if he was said, if he said to me twenty dollars,
because he's been fishing a lot lately, I want to buy stronger line.
I would probably send it for that. Money for a purpose, not
money for a good you got it, you got it. I'd need air
pods. Money needs to be an investment to real air pods, right,
right. You can find knockoff ones for whatever, but you lost them.
You gotta look at money as like an empty calorie versus good calorie thing,
right, A good calorie thing would be like spending out of vegetables. In
other words, it's gonna be an investment in your life. It's gonna be
something to help you. Hey, dad, I need to buy books,
or Dad, I want to get this book, or I want to get
this lesson and how to fish or whatever. Yes, you know, yeah,
All I'm saying is like, there's no real backbone because and I get
it, it's easier not to your days as busy as ever or hit with
more information. You don't even know who your kid may be talking to at
the dinner table if they have their phone. And that's and it's hard.
It sucks it look no parent likes to say no parent likes to say no
no phones at the table. That's it. Put it away, right because
then it becomes a fight. But I think that's what you got to do
in order to sort of gain things back. And let me ask you though,
I mean, I know people whose kids are like in their teens,
they won't buy them a phone. Yeah, I mean so, well,
so what's the so is it because of the distance? Is what Jack with
Jamison? Yeah. No, every boy was allowed to get a phone at
thirteen, Okay, they were all were allowed. That was the age you
got to have a phone. It was like and it was like the coming
of age thing. It was probably more important to them than getting their life.
That's hilarious because I hesitated and held out getting a phone as long as
I possible. Yeah, I didn't want to get a phone. So the
guys got phones because their friends had phones. But they would also you could
you could track them, you could see where they were, they were up
the street, at their friend's house, whatever. You could call them.
You didn't have to call, you know, over to the house. Hey.
You know, and a lot of people were starting to get rid of
house phones, so this was a way to get a hold Hey can you
pick me up? Hey, I'm going to stay after school. You could
text, It was all kinds of things. So there was sort of a
utilitarian or a utility. It was a utility, right, we could use
it for stuff. Now, then James Snake comes along and he's like stealing
their phones and he's using them, and they're getting pissed off, and he's
stealing their iPads and they're getting so finally, at like ten, I cracked.
They go, fuck it, give him a phone. Why do we
have to wait till thirteen? He's done. Yeah, but you're eight years
older than him. It doesn't matter, like you know what I'm saying.
So he gets the phone. I went to all that. Yeah, he
gets the phone. I do work at fourteen. My siby's got to work
at sixteen. Yeah, so he gets the phone. But again it was
like you almost needed it even at that age because you were you know,
hey, he's going to be home alone. You can check on you know
what I mean, just simple things. So I think there is a purpose
to the phone. Maybe get him like the I don't know. There's there's
versions of phones you can get. I think my brother's kids have phones,
but you can't get any realize on them or anything like that or whatever.
You know. Yeah, parental control, Yeah, that type of I think
the big picture here is I'm not a parent, I know, so I'm
not gonna That's why I'm not gonna say I kind of am not a either,
so, but but you are a parent. I think, like the
biggest problem is, like after World War Two, America had this big you
know, I don't want to say revival. You just got through the depression,
and then you got through World War two where we didn't know if America
was going to be America thanks to Hitler and everything else. And America is
a big part in US in the Allies winning World War Two. Now all
of a sudden, America emerges as one of the two biggest nations in the
world. And back here you had the baby boom because of the war,
and you know, the baby boomers were raised a certain way, and I
think, you know, so they tried to pass that on to gen X
Jen and like, I think they may have overcorrected. So gen X responded
by their parents saying I'm not gonna be as hard as you were, and
maybe went a little bit on the other extreme. In other words, I
think too many parents may have overcorrected for their what they thought were their parents'
mistakes. I don't know, I think it's society over correction is a big
problem. Hold that thought, because I have uh, we'll bring that up.
We'll take a moment and we'll bring that. But I want to read
you something because you've known Jackson when we did the break Room years ago.
I did a lot of stuff with autism things because Jackson was on the spectrum
and brainiac at Asperger Aspergian than anything. But he's you know, there's some
things that are a little different about to do. So he uh, he's
had this dream to move to New York City. He's wanted to move to
New York City since he was like a little guy, and he uh,
he decided that he was going to do it. He saved up his money,
he found a he took a week, lived at my mom's, stayed
with my mother, visited and would jump on the train every day into New
York City. It's about ninety miles and he would take the train right down
and runs right in and my mother would pick him up in the evening and
he would look for a job, look for a place. He found a
place, a room in Staten Island. I think it's like eleven hundred a
month. I know for it, I could see that it's at Airbnb.
It's only a two month least. Maybe they'll extend it after that. So
I keep telling him, you got to keep it super neat. You got
to make sure you're wiping out the sink in the bathroom, like all these
little things. All right, anyway, So he uh, he texted me
yesterday because I had some leads on gigs for him. He's looking for a
job down there. He goes, just finished applying to the place. Wish
me luck. I said, good luck. This is all very exciting because
I'm trying to stay as positive as possible. Right, he goes, this
is hilarious. I just got an email from the manager of the first place
requesting to set up an interview. And then he writes, all capitals,
let's fucking go. I owe, yes see, everything is always working out
for you. And this is what he writes back, all thanks to you
hard work, tenacity, and patience. Thanks for teaching me the hard lessons
and never letting up on me. Now, I don't remember being I know
who I was hard on it, and it wasn't him. That sounded really
weird. I know I was tougher on. I used to lecture Jordan.
I would drop Jordan off et McQuaid or pick Jordan up and it would be
a lecture the whole way home. I mean he would always he would be
like, all right, here you go. It was always a lecture.
I couldn't help it. I don't know why. I was always always identify
the one that they need to parently. I was like lecturing that guy.
And uh, I didn't so much with Jackson. So I just wrote back,
going your mom and I have always believed in you. That's it.
But I thought, if that's what he thinks, then good. I guess
I don't remember being that that hard on Diggon. I'm sure I was.
I'm sure I maybe like by osmosis, I mean like when I heard my
father yelling at my sister. Yeah, I took that lesson too. Yeah,
you know, like it's like you could you can learn from like,
okay, I know not to do this now, that's important. You know.
My grandmother once. Uh there's one gosh, I remember this Halloween forever
because that night, that's so we're how my memory works. It was like
October of ninety four or ninety five, and it was a Monday night.
It was Halloween, and I want to go out with my friends and just
not cause trouble with clean fun, you know, like throw water balloons and
stuff like that. We truss like burglars and we just have My father goes,
that's a night of trouble. That's not but a night of trouble.
The only reason I remember is because Kiss was doing unplugged that night on MTV,
and I had to be at my uncle's house by nine o'clock no later,
and that's when it was on. So I turned out nobody's home and
I'm watching Kiss Unplugged. It's pretty good. But anyway, I'm out and
we're just throwing. We're just throwing like water balloons and shaving cream and stuff
like that. My grandmother had to grab my father and go, do you
know who you're yelling at? He's a good kid. Yeah, he's a
good kid. Yeah, he goes, he's not gonna get that. If
the last person in Silver Creek that's going to get in trouble is your son,
you raised him right now, could you just trust yourself and trust him
and let him go out? Yeah? And he finally like relented, and
I think when I came home in one piece. He started to realize it.
You know what, Yeah, I do have a good kid to keep
riding him. Well, he would just he was afraid I would turn out
to be him. Yeah, so he would overcorrect because he didn't want me
to be the rebellious kid. I'm like, Dad, I don't think there's
a rebellious bone in my body. I often thought, like, be rebellious,
I don't know, skin your knee, fall down, get humiliated,
be embarrassed, be a little bit shame. Shame, it's something that's lost
in society. A little bit of shame goes so far away. I'm not
saying we need to shame people do it, but you yourself being cocky and
going out and trying to show off and you know, fall down in front
of a girl, embarrass yourself, make a terrible joke and learn, because
that experience is going to teach you, maybe way more than being saying don't
don't make it an inappropriate joke in front of it. I make an inappropriate
joke in front of somebody, and see how it fucking plays. Words don't
teach, and people don't realize. I think that's really the truth, and
actions teach. Feelings just experience, right, experience it all and get humiliated
and get beat up, get a little dirty. And I'm not saying hurt
yourself or anything. I'm just I hope people understand what I'm saying because I
think a lot of times we've gotten so we're afraid to do this, we're
afraid to do that. And then but if you skin your you learn,
you learn what's right. Oh my gosh, fear was the most Fear's the
worst thing in my life. Yeah, it was the most criptling thing.
There's so many things I could have done and wanted to do or didn't do.
Be going to New York City. All right, So we had we
had an internamed r J who is now an executive producer for the number two
sports morning show I think maybe number one sports morning show in New York.
And he has to be in New York, right. He took a chance,
He got up and he applied and he left. They made him work
the overnight shift. Then he worked his way to the Michael Ka Show.
He was on Yes Network, he was on television and then eventually like to
this to the morning show and you looked at me one day, I go,
man, how about that huh. And you said, what did I
say, party you wishes? What party you wishes? That you could have
done that too? Huh? I go, yeah, sometimes yeah, because
not that I didn't want to be part of the break criminal, but the
idea was like he was doing sports radio, which is what I really wanted
to do, and he was doing it in the Big Apple, and I
never had the guts to ever like move by myself to New York City.
I could, I could have had that job. Sure, yeah, I
had way more experience. I'd never applied for it. I didn't want to
do it. I was un a contract. But at the same time,
you know, I was afraid to leave the bubble, right and you can't.
I'm not saying like you said. I'm not saying take risks, huge
risks, like go out and like jump the shark, like like the Fonds.
But I am saying, though, is that, like, hey,
fear is going to be crippling, you gotta get over it and go out
and experience life. I agree. I think that even to this day,
I think I was much the same way, Like I never I my parents
didn't move around, so I didn't want to have a transient life like that,
Yeah, I stayed in one spot. It was it worked for me
until it didn't, right, But I mean it worked. I had a
nice career and choices I could make and do all those things. And but
I hear what you're saying, and I think sometimes now I start to think,
how much time do I have left? And do I have one more
big act left in me? Do I have one more? Because the thing
that I was thinking, the thing that I was thinking is that every everywhere,
and I'll say more starting with the let's say the breakroom, but everywhere
was like there was nothing and you had to build something right. So a
lot of times you could say music radio where they were coming for the music
back then, right rock stations, this is the only place you're going to
get it. But you could build it up in between the records if you
did the right stuff. I just thought that was like the mortar that held
the bricks together. We liked looking at a brick wall, But what's holding
that brick wall? So if I could build the stuff between the records,
that was going to do it. That's how I did it. I got
that to number one, and that they certainly ingratiated me to the management.
What was the breakroom was when a big morning legend aft. Now you're nobody
believed in that, nobody, no. So that was we had to build
from nothing to being number one. Okay, leave there, go to another
station where they had nothing, build it up to a top five or whatever,
had management issues and stuff there. I would have never really left,
But there was a guy who everywhere he went he tried to hire me,
including Los Angeles. I went out. We know that story. Then I
go back and it's there was a station where they had a talk show in
the morning, talk show in the afternoon, music in the middle of the
day. Now, all talk FM stations are very popular in cities with longer
commutes. We have not a long commute in the city we live in.
It's what eight to ten, fifteen minutes, Well, twenty is the average.
Now twenty is what they're saying. Yeah, actually, but that that's
it used to be fifteen hours twenty okay, So how do you how do
you build that? We took that as an all talk to number one.
It became the highest rated show on that station, which it should never be.
You should never have that. So like all those things, but there
were it was like a lot of work. I was good at starting over,
building it up, starting over, building up, and now I'm going
I have one more act in me to do it, or am I just
I don't fucking know. I don't know. But there is something about that,
and there is the fear. And you can either just go all in
and just go fuck it. I'm gonna do this. And you have turned
out then you know, tune out the naysayers and tune out to the people.
And believe me, there's a lot I was telling you about one.
All right, well, take a moment. I want to get back to
your gen X and overcorrection, overcorrection. We'll talk about that and uh and
then somebody who made a little help. I have a story about a couple,
all right, Yeah, any advice, Uh no, this is like
a personal thing, but I have advice. I mean I sort of,
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You know this band sounds like The Stones, Oh, very similar.
Bah, he's an American band. Here we go, Come on, Smarty
Tucker. No, it's a band that you probably know, the Seal the
Stone. Okay, it's not the Guess Who. No, that's a Canadian
band. Yeah, that's why I that plug sweat too. No, sad.
This band had one of the biggest hits from my childhood. I was
like in third grade, so we've been in the early eighties. But I
know you know the song Jay Giles. Yeah, this is Jake Giles.
This is Jay Giles. This is what they really were about. You know.
Centerfold was a very pop song. Yeah. I thought it was very
cheesy. I liked it, But so they sounded more like this. Yes,
I love Ja's got like a three dog Nightfield to I fucking loved this
many Yes they do, yep. Peter Walker. Oh okay, all right,
so that sad. Yeah, ain't nothing but a house party. That's
one of my favorite. Do you ever hear a song and you're like,
you think it's a certain band and it's not. I know, Well no,
no, only because I don't really yes, maybe so, yes,
I have so. Like I remember going to a party and I was like
in college, but it was a party back home, much of adults party,
and we just stopped in to say hello, and I'm like, is
this is this Queen? They're like, no, it's your riot. Heap,
heap. I'm like, no, yeah, but I could hear.
I could. It's because sounds like queen. That's a great guess. Yes,
you know, well it's a band that you wouldn't really know. Yeah.
They were a deep cut band. I always used to think that John
Cafferty and the Beaver Brown band. Yeah, with Springsteen sometimes yeah, yeah,
I did so. Yeah. And in the movie Ed he had the
Cruiser. Yes, he never got to play himself, so nobody knew who
he was. No. I love that band or the few songs that I
knew then. There was on the Dark Sid What was the other one that
Robert Plant fronted a band? It was Moon something, Okay, I don't
oh god, I'd have to look that up. But anyway, that's it.
Danny brought up or correction over correction and you were saying, like the
generations, right, yeah, the baby boomer generation, because we were talking
about parenting and I said, I think part of the problem that we're seeing
today is parenting not having a backbone. Yeah, because there's so much shit.
There's so much influence on your kids, their friends are influenced by stuff.
All this shit's going on. It used to be like you tuned into
MTV and maybe that was like the big no no. Now it's everything all
the time, right on your phone, right at you, and I go.
The part of the tough part is you're a parent. Take the phone.
Don't allow tiktoking on the phone that if that, if you feel like
that's a problem, don't allow it, you know. But it's it's easier
to to not have that fight than it is to have that fight. And
I think that, uh yeah, yes, it's very difficult. It sucks.
It sucks. Like the worst thing is like when you I can imagine
like not the worst thing, but like the worst feeling is your parents,
like mommy, daddy, I hate you. Yeah, it could be worse
if they end up in a casket. Right, And but in the moment,
in the moment, you're not thinking about the latter part. You're thinking
about, oh man, it just cuts me like a knife, right,
exactly sure, And I think that, uh, my own man and my
old man, you just always said to me, I'm not here to ruin
your good time. I'm here to keep you alive. And with me,
that was like a real thing. So my father just didn't want me to
turn out like him. That was his big though. God I was it
was too late. It was too late for me. It was just this
girl I went to high school with it's birthday and I remember her sixteenth.
It just came up on Facebook, right, I remember her sixteenth birthday party.
And at her sixteenth birthday party, I stood on the roof of a
car and surfed down a road thinking I was cool, like at thirty miles
and I think we were get twenty thirty miles, maybe twenty, I don't
know. I'm just going. You slip, you fall, you fucking whack
your head. I don't care if it's ten miles. People have fallen.
Oh why, that's what happened to Chris Henry the Bengals. He died.
He jumped on the back of a truck. Yes, yes, he missed,
fell off, hit his head. Boom, guard you go. That's
what I'm saying. And I think if my old man saw that, he
would I remember my old man really getting mad at me because we were somewhere
with a bunch of families camping and one of the guys, one of the
little girls was swimming and she didn't have a top on, so I was
all confused. But she was not a developed girls. There are like seven,
eight or nine on ten ten, maybe, I don't know. And
I remember like, for whatever reason, somebody thought it would be funny to
try to pull her pants down, and I thought that's a good idea.
So I was joking around, we'll pull your pants down or something like that,
and some other parents told my father my father fucking jacked me up on
a tree and goes, you never do like pick me up. I was
up in the air, had me up against the tree, going, you
will never talk to a young lady like that, and you will go and
apologize to her father. I was like, oh fuck, I didn't even
know what I did. Like, I was like completely, like I had
no idea, Like I truly there was nothing in my head. And I
don't even know if like thinking back then, I can't even now. I
don't remember why, you know, taking her pants down. I think it
was just funny being naked. I don't know you, I was probably ten.
Yeah, you wouldn't know anything what I would because I don't forget I
was so I always wondered like, was there something there or I wanted to
see what a girl had, because hang on a second, I thought girls
said, but I think that was it. I would go, I want
to see what's down there. I didn't see the girl. I think in
my head my father fucking when he found out. Holy shit, I was
off the ground, jacked up against a tree, and I had to go
apologize, and I think that I probably would have done the same thing.
But on the other hand, I just told a story about when May and
my friend Michael Murray I've got into a fistfight and I flipped Michael over my
back into a stream and he was crying and he went in wet and his
mother's like, all right, go dry off, and that was the end
of it. And then years later, Jackson, my son and the kid
across the street, we're up at somebody's camp on the Salmon River, and
one of the mothers comes. They were somewhere else and they come back to
how's it going, Ah, the boys got into a little bit of scuffle,
no big deal, but they worked it out. She goes, oh,
what happened? I said, I don't know. I say, I
think like Jackson might have flipped you know, your son into the water,
or flipped them off a bride. I don't know, something like gotten too
our. She didn't talk to us for like a month or two after that,
and I was always like, maybe it was my casual, like as
though I was endorsing violence. I certainly wasn't, but I wasn't gonna go
jack I figured that's boys being boys and they figure it out. Hey,
fellat's work it out. If I saw it, I'm gonna break it up,
and I'm gonna hey, man, let's let's use our words. Let's
try to figure what's happening here. Let's take some time to cool off.
But nobody was there, and one of the kids came home, Okay,
all right, all right, are you still breathing? Yeah, you're good?
All right? What happened? And then we work it out from there.
This mother was like, don't indorse violence, So I don't know,
do you ever think that over correction? Well yeah, well yeah, So
along lines of over correction. Do you ever think that parents show off for
other parents their parenting? Fucking yes, in your dad's situation, do you
think that was his way of zoe? He didn't, He didn't. It
was a reflection, So it's not a reflection on him. I want to
wright to know that I don't know. I do not condone my son's but
I don't think my father. I don't think anybody else knew. I mean,
I don't think anybody knew that I was jacked up, and he certainly
didn't parade me over to apologize. I had to go on my own and
do it. So I don't think that's the case. I do believe there
is show off punishment. Oh how I witnessed my fair share of parents show
off many many, many times, not my son, in my own on
my own property. I saw it many times, Daniel. But I would
to your point, I wonder if UH wars had impact on parenting. And
I started to say this the other night on the podcast that I often wondered
because you'll see things like on social media, uh gen X. We didn't
have to We didn't wear seatbelts. We ran out to the sun the dusk
to the lights went off, all this stuff we would smoke when we were
six, Yeah, whatever, whatever, it was right, And I go,
I spoke when she was pregnant. Didn't bother me, right, right,
So I go, Okay, hang on a second, what was going
on in society? Because I don't think that any parents don't love their kids.
And I came from what my sister would call a violent household. I
never thought of it that way. But if I started to tell stories to
people, they go the fuck and I go, yeah, so, and
then I have friends who uh never heard of, never saw the parents argue,
know that they had disagreements, but that everything was settled out out of
their earshot, and everything was calm. I know now the people that I
know were like that are more houses with all daughters. So there was all
women. So and it was a little counter. We were a mixed house
and my house was a fucking frat house when the guys you're little. So
yeah, it was always chaos. So I don't know if that's part of
it. I didn't have little girls, but I also think that it was
highly dysfunctional. But going back to this, so you come off World War
two and it was a win, Yes, and you're feeling good. All
right, grades, but they were heroes. Go with my go with my
theory on the law of attraction. Just follow this and see if see if
you can see any correlations. So World War two, when we're on a
high, we come back, everybody's banging, having kids, they're building houses,
you're getting your house jobs. Where the economy going, everything's coming along.
We got this Americans, the American dream. People are living in the
American dream. Everybody's feeling good. Things are cooking right. There were no
middle classes around the rest of the world. No, And I would say
even in America. One of the things that makes it great is there's no
real class. There's class distinction, but you don't have to stay in that
class. You can rise, you can fall, but you can you can.
Yeah. So and then Vietnam comes. Vietnam comes. And I was
saying one of the recent podcasts, I don't know anybody who got spin on,
but I said, I've talked to like six guys who were non guys,
and none of them had that experience. But that's six, that's not
many. So I don't want I don't want to discount because somebody, oh,
my uncle that's what maybe Okay, I can't say that, but I
always wonder if like this story got greater later. That's always been my worry
with things like that. I think there was descent because no one understood why
we were there. I don't even think the soldiers knew. It was to
stop the spread of communism. We tried to get the friends to fight it.
They they lost. So we we we were in, and then it
was big bad America and we're going all in. We're going all in,
war contracts, Kronkite goes in and so what. But now we got people
who some of them who come back severely damaged and no way to know.
Nobody talked about. That's why the movie Born on the Fourth of July was
made. That's why, like Springsteen wrote, USA, Yes, yeah,
I was, you know, first kick, I took it, I hit
the ground. But then I get into a little scrape. They to get
out of it. They put a gun in my hand and send me off
to kill the yellow man. That's what I think. The lyrics are born
in the USA. So I so then i started I'm watching this. I
go, Okay, you came back. You didn't really know what you were
fighting for now there's divisions. Some people see you as an enemy within your
own country, or maybe you felt that way. You applied meaning to whatever,
right, whatever you think, and uh, and now you're going to
raise kids and it's kind of like you're fucked up. You're trying to appease
your parents. They're telling you there's still an influence on you no matter how
old they are, as long as they're on the planet, you're always going
to be their kid. And I go and you're just kind of like,
fuck it whatever. I don't know if that's part of it. Because my
dad didn't go to NAM, my uncle did. My grandmother didn't want two
guys in Noms. She was very worried she was gonna lose. She didn't
want to lose both her sons, who she was trying to get my dad
to defer, and he wouldn't. He went in he could take in the
college to firment. He didn't. He got a lottery number and it was
such a low lottery number like whatever that he never got drafted. But he
wouldn't do that because his brother was in NAM and he wasn't gonna do that.
And my uncle was a pilot in Noam and then went on to be
an airline pilot and that was the end of that. Uh. But I
mean, you know, you had guys dying of agent Orange. You had
got all these all these horrible things, and I just wonder if, like,
does that fuck up the psyche of that generation. You didn't win the
war like your dad did. Right, we had World War Two. Guys,
their sons go to Nam, they don't win, They're not appreciated.
They're not coming home to Rah rah rah. They're coming home to what the
fuck were you doing? You know, a division in the country trying to
choose their own thing. Some of them who fought. Oh yeah, you're
right, we shouldn't have been there, and people are dying for what more?
You know, all this stuff just trusts. They weren't even accepted at
vfw's when they came home, like no, okay, you know it's like,
yeah, I don't know that. But I had a couple of people
tell me that no, they could be. And I also had I also
had my father asked, asked my fact. My father's Vietnam was Vietnam age
and he couldn't go because he had flat feet and cross high that'd been a
blessing. Seriously, he wanted to go, but he didn't really fully understand
the scope of things, and then realized later on, oh yeah, that
that would have been a horrible idea. But he said he'd ask people at
work that he worked with, Hey, can I ask you a question about
NOM? And he goes to a man. Several of them said, I
really don't want to talk about it. Yeah, this is what I'm saying.
So now you've got that and they're coming back, and I think that
that just permeates out into society. So everybody start of that age that her
parents. He starts to see what the Joneses are doing with their kids,
and so you do it with your kid, and you maybe you talk about
it, and the mom's talk and this, and I think that that's how
we do things, and we look around and now it's the same thing.
But where you're saying, like over correction, I don't know we were allowed
to just dude. I think of the things I did, and I go,
I would never let my kids do that. I think my parents would
have never let me do that. But I think that that was a generation
of parenting that was emotionally unavailable. I really do. I could see that,
I really do. I think it was because you didn't live up to
your dad's war, yes, and whether you went or not, And I
think that permeates society. I think your parents things are changing, distracting.
They're trying to live the American dream and keep the jobs and things are different,
and there's college education and not, and you're trying to be better than
your parents. And I just think you're emotionally unavailable. And I think all
that shit from the wars fucked either do well or don't right, And even
the people who didn't go to the war, what opinion on the watched the
Arnold documentary. He talks about Austria losing and how violent the men were and
how angry and defeated and lost they felt after losing them. He felt emasculated
exactly. So how are you supposed to raise a young man when you can't
feel like you're a man yourself? What I'm saying, so, now now
you come up right, and you're going to try to go the other way
right. A lot of times do the other way. I used to always
joke, how do I parent? Do everything opposite my parents do? I
used to say that as a joke. I watched my brother and sister,
and that's exactly what they sort of do, right. Not that my parents
certainly gave us every opportunity they could, but it was the emotional unavailability was
certainly a thing, and I think it was a thing for a generation.
I think all those parents, I think that they also lived through the sexual
revolution. Yeah, are you're talking about trying to gain a foothold. My
mother couldn't get on a mortgage in nineteen seventy whatever three because even though she
had a job and a master's degree, they said, because you're gonna take
time off to have a baby. And she fought and fought and fought to
get her name on that mortgage because she goes, I'm an earner, Yeah,
fuck you, you gotta you gotta count my income, and they go,
yeah, but you're gonna take time off to have babies. You can't.
And you understand the banks they're not they're not emotional. They're looking at
it from business, right, strictly business. How are we getting our money
back? You're gonna base it on this salary, but that half that salary
is going to go away if you take time off to have a child.
Right, Yeah, and then you know on the flip side too, you
know, with parents in that in that generation and everything else, all of
a sudden somewhere in the seventies or eighties, and you could tell me better
than I could, you know. I mean, your parents were kind of
like the exception to the rule that it became the norm. Two parents working.
Yeah, you two parent, two income. Okay, I want to
know where that's kind of came from. My my dad's my grandfather, who
I loved and adored, had arthritis so badly as a young man rheumataid arthritis
rheumatoi North Randers. Yeah, that he was in a wheelchair. Now,
I don't know how it went away. I don't know how it felt.
I don't know because I knew him. We used to write, but he
was he was in a wheelchair when my dad was like three. My grandmother
had to work. So my grandmother, my dad's mom, always worked.
She was the secretary for Yuie Carry and his oil company, and he eventually
became the governor of New York and she but she was his secretary. So
a woman working in my dad's world was just normal. My mom had gone
to college. It was just normal. So that was and that was so
that was my normal. But you're right, a lot of my friend's moms
didn't. And so by the time, like the nineties, kid, right,
I mean you and I both have serious There's a Lithium channel. It's
the nineties alternative and they have this woman who sounds like Daria from Beavis and
butt Has. She had her own show, Daria, you know, yeah,
and it's the sarcastic voiceover lady who goes latch key kids Unite. Meaning
in the nineties, we all came home from school, our parents were working.
Yeah, so we had to raise ourselves, right, you know.
I think that's also part of it when your parents, when both your parents
are out working. Now, like at a certain age, you're raising yourself.
It's like a little bit, a little bit when he come home.
Yeah yeah, I loved it. Yeah yeah, because now MTV Baby,
m TV. Oh yeah, I went to my Playboy magazine, did you
banks one now go home talking about Yeah, I loved it. I loved
it. When they were god, oh god, it was fucking heaven.
I used to hate it. I used to be able to I used to
be able to tell who was coming up the road by the sound of the
car. I would know who was driving by Oh yeah, my father drove
a Chrysler. They have a very distinctive sound. And I could hear when
it was my parents coming and it would always be like two houses down and
I could hear them, and I'd be like, oh fuck, and you
I would be scrambling to do whatever I was doing to not be doing,
you know, because there was always something and then they were always bitching at
you. That was vacuum. Yeah, they were emotionally unavailable. I'm just
so I think that's to your point, the over correction, But I think
it. I think war fucks us up. Yeah, of course it does.
Of course it does. Yeah, I just think it does. I
think it's the psyche, right, Yeah, when everybody's great a loss or
loss, we don't know what's going on. Yeah, we feel defeated,
split Germany in half. Yeah, ye all right, Well take a moment.
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Elvis and definitely a Bruce influencer. Right. I'm always wanted to got the
sleeveless shirts. I don't remember what he looked like. Not a great looking
guy, I don't know. I've always wanted to mash this sung up with
Springsteen. She's the one, yeah, because that's why everybody looks at this
guy like he's Springsteen because the two songs sound a lot alike. The thing
is, this is a bigger hit than most Springsteen songs. Springsteen was like
he was big. But as our friend Cana would tell us, we would
when he would play him on CMF, he only play certain Springsteen songs.
Yeah, because Springsteen didn't test well, like he didn't test as well as
Bob Seeger or the Eagles. But yet he sells out arena still at like
seventy something years old when he goes on tour. I love Bruce greatest concert
I've ever seen. That's why I like when I hear about the Pearl James
On tour they had they've had a stall in London, and the reasons because
Eddie's like sick or something, Eddie Veteran, the lead singer, and people
are complaining that they're playing more for tickets, but yet they're getting only two
hours instead of three hour shows and they're sitting down for the first few songs,
so they're going slow and they're pacing themselves. Oh my god, did
he rip this off? Not Bruce Cafferty. Yeah, they sound almost exactly
like ship. I never noticed, but that makes total sense. Like,
let me go back to the beginning of this one. Here's the beginning.
No no, no, no, no, no no. It might be
down a step, and then you go to she's the one. It's up
a step. One. Cafferty may have gone down a step and played down
the on the on the base end of the piano. Oh my god,
they're very they're very close. I've never heard about anybody. He's higher.
This is Cafferty. Yeah, he's higher. This is lower. Well,
his his thing. I thought the piano was higher. His piano is lower.
Springsty's pianos higher. This is Springsteen. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
you're right. It's almost like the same exact. Yeah, weird,
Bruce wants to make some extra scratch. So what came out first? Great
questions? All right, I'm assuming that she's the one came out. Didn't
that come out in the River album or something? Ohay, Springsteen Anthology updated.
Oh they're giving me like a movie Springsteen song hang on nineteen seventy five.
Okay, so I guaranteed John cafferck after you ripped it off. Yeah,
holy fuck? Wow. What did they tell you in songwriting when you
first try to write a song, take take a song you love and do
it in reverse. Okay. But the weird part is I don't know the
I don't know the the what is it called? I want to say,
like, it's not copyright when they go intellectual property, yeah, the intellectual
property law, or maybe I even have that wrong. For music. I
don't think they can go in court and play the music. I think you
have to give the written notes, okay, And people look at that,
and I'm always confused because I go, what that doesn't make sense if that?
But I believe that's the rule. I don't think they can play it.
I think you have to look at the notes and go, wow,
they're similar, or read the lyrics or whatever it is. And I go,
how do you take people who probably have no musical training and get them
to decide because led Zeppelin took spirit? There's no way. There's no fucking
way. Spirit came first with this song that they turned into or took the
beginning of it made Stairway to Heaven. If I played him side by side,
it's uncanny. The same thing here. How did now? Maybe Bruce
is just cooling. I don't give a fuck. You know, hey,
man, the man made a song people like it. Let him have it,
But Bruce could have used that money was going through his tax problems in
the mid eighties. Yeah, how I saw. I think Vanilla Ice ripped
off Queen. To this day, he swears that his song is different.
Maybe I don't know. I don't. I have no idea. I'm not.
But to the untrained ear which I would, I'd have to hear it.
To the untrained ear it. Yeah, I couldn't at first. I
would always think like I would get confused under pressure or Ice Ice baby.
I couldn't tell. No Ice turned up in a movie. I just saw
Rob van Winkle. Oh what the hell did I see? I think it
was cool as eyes. Yeah, he shows up, he showed. Oh
that's my boy with Adam Sandler. Well, of course, it's an Adam
Sandler movie. But it's phenomenal. It pulls everybody from it's great. It's
great he does. But Vanilla Ice still looks great. Oh yeah, and
a multimillionaire with his properties and shit, Oh yeah whatever, he invested his
money. Well he took advantage of his fifteen minutes. Yes, yes he
did. He certainly did. God bless them smartly. So I learned something
over the America's birthday that America's early columnists drank almost three times more than modern
Americans. Really, yeah, and I go out, Maybe they thought the
water was bad and they had to Maybe it wasn't bad alcohol. It might
have been bad, right, because we have purification systems and all kinds of
things, even if we have dead bodies floating our water. Here. Yeah,
they drank an average of six gallons of pure alcohol every year. It's
a fact. Because I had to look this up. I go, I'm
not sure. But then again, you question everything, even the stuff that's
on the internet. In the eighteenth century, there were more taverns per capita
than any other business in the country. Nowadays, the US has one of
the lowest rates of drinking in the developed world, except for New York,
which I can't believe that. I go, wait a second, I must
really be trying to skew that single hand. You know. It's so it's
so funny. So you know, in church, there's differences of opinion when
it comes to alcohol, right, you know, there are some you know,
if you read the Bible through, you know there are warnings against alcohol.
At the same time, alcohol is a blessing and the idea is,
at least in the Baptist Church, refrain, whereas in other denominations is like
moderation. Right. John Calvin is the father of Calvinism, and John Calvin
had a contract to get like two to three hundred gallons of wine a year
as a stipend at his church. So, I mean, you know,
I think we look at alcohol differently since the since the prohibition days. I
still think we have that one hundred year you know, you know, I
don't want to say stench, but like maybe it's one hundred year's stench of
like alcohol is bad, it's it should be prohibitive, it's ill, it's
evil, that type of thing. You shouldn't do it. And you know,
we see people dying in or in dwis or whatever or drunk driving app
ex So we say, see see what alcohol can do. But no,
what you did was you got in the behind the wheel of the car when
you shouldn't have, right, you know what I'm saying. So I think
alcohol can be vilified. I don't recommend it. It's not healthy for you
at all in any sense, except for I think tequila or guinness. But
at the end of the day, hey, I don't think it's the it's
thank you for that. Yeah, you're welcome. I love drinking. I
love it. I love drinking. I love getting a buzz. It makes
me happy. I do what Kevin calls billing. After that, I get
all charming and fun. And you know I, Charlie, I love it.
I love alcohol. I love it. I love it, love it,
love it. I grew up with it. I've been drinking in excess
since I was fourteen years old. I don't know why. I often wonder
what residuals will happen down the line from the amount of excessive blackout drinking up
into my fifties. I don't know. But I have enjoyed it every single
fucking time. I mean, I love drinking. I don't know what it
is. I love it. I love everyone else. I've never really like
enjoyed it, like I don't mind having a cocktail with friends, you know,
but I don't want to have too many. And I love it.
I don't want to go because I will lose control and then I don't remember,
and I could be the funniest guy or the moodiest guy, it depends,
or the angriest guy all kinds of things could happen, But I like
where I can just get that happy buzz and just have a good time and
you know, it's just fun and you relax and you're good, you feel
safe and I'm not driving or whatever like that. Other drugs not such a
fan. I mean, I like once in a while eating a gummy because
it's kind of it's uplifting. If you get the right one, it's uplifting.
And I like that. I do like being slightly and a breathing.
I can't help it. I don't know what that is. You, Yeah,
man, it does. I feel good when I'm having cocktails up.
Maybe what's happening? Know, all of a sudden, I'll say things that
I probably shouldn't say, so we know some of it lands Well, well,
that's all right. We chug out, Danny, we chug on.
It's just a weird thing like that. I had a buddy tell me over
the weekend. I was at my niece's birthday party and she said or and
he said, he goes, I remember I grew up because that's where he
grew up. He said, he grew up in your Kodak And he said,
I remember there used to be this bar across from the Kodak Theater where
he goes seven o'clock in the morning. Man, that place was hot because
all the C shift workers, so that was their evening. They go and
have a cocktail. You got it. When I was that bar is out
there anymore. When I was the marketing director at twenty three years old of
a radio station, I used to take the mobile home of rock and roll
down to that bar with coffee and donuts and I would give him out as
people were leaving the bar. Oh wow, seven o'clock in the morning.
Brilliant. Yeah. It wasn't my idea. Yeah, with somebody in there,
but we wound up doing it. We did it for a little bit.
Well, it was one of these things where you're right, I mean
you I think at the time it was more of a pain of the ass
and it wasn't what I wanted to do. I wanted to be behind a
microphone, not you know, doing that. But it was about touching people
and doing that. You know, we talk about drinking. I jokingly say
things like blacking out, although I certainly have you worry about the residuals.
But what they did a poll, I think it was a you GOV poll
of the most embarrassing thing you've ever forgotten, and like a spouse's birthday,
Yeah, kid's birthday, because allegedly we have like three hundred and thirty two.
I don't know how they come up with that number. But forgetful moment
a year okay, according to these things that I've read, and I go,
what's the thing I forget the most people's names? Oh, that's terrible
names. And I've met some people like seventeen times. I had a slide
out of this studio once not that long ago and call somebody and go,
hey man, so and so just showed up here. It's the guy that
blank at blanket blank blank, what's his name? And they go, you
idiot, Like I can't remember. But I don't want that person who walked
in here. They're all happy and says hey man, and it is introducing
their wife. I don't want them to think I forgot them, because I
know who you are and what you do. I just don't know your name.
At the moment, I didn't know the person's name. And I go,
I have done this so many times because you meet so many people right
at times that I'll always try this move. Hey, this is my friend
Dan, and they go, oh, day Dan, And I think the
other person, if they're pretty savvy, picks up and they don't want to
embarrass because they'll do it too, so they'll say, I'm I'm Joe Schmo.
I you know, I have a painting business that I do, and
blah blah blah, and and everything's cool. And then I'm go, oh
yay, yeah, I go Joe. I got to tell you because then
I would make sure I use the name right. Right. It's terrible,
but that's that's right. To use name three times and it's yours. Yeah,
Like Andrew Carnegie wrote, or Dale Carnegie wrote to uh, how to
win friends and influence people. The most wonderful sound is somebody's next own name.
Yeah you know, yeah, So don't overdo it. But see here's
the genuine about it. When you repeat it, then you start to remember
it. It goes out with the arm and out of your mouth and into
your brain. When I hear my name, it doesn't it's not sweet on
my years, depends on what version of my name, because there was always
well Dan or Danny. I guess Billy. If it's Billy, I know
it's a friendly thing, and I don't mind when people do that. But
when I used to hear like the first consonant of my name hit hard Bill,
I'm like, fuck I So it was almost weaponized Bill. I got
and I I got it all my life, but probably because I stepped in
more ship than I needed to. So how about passwords? Oh yeah,
I have this problem. Yeah, because so I have my passwords stored on
my computer. Uh huh, which is not a great idea, but you
know I forget passwords all the time. So here's the problem. When you
forget your password anything, and sometimes you'll forget your your user name. Yes,
right, So now you end up like me with two Ticketmaster accounts and
two NFL plus accounts. So now you're paying extra money and it's it's like
he can't try to cancel them. Yeah, like ones on the Roku stick
the other one. I'm like, how do I cancel? Yes? You
know I have two accounts? Why because I forgot my password. I have
a I have a friend from uh that I grew up with that will once
in a while hack in and use their parents' Amazon Prime account for movies and
things because they always know that their dad was such a Giants fan, so
it would always be a player's name, and like they're like straighthand ninety two.
Yes, right, so that was it. He would just guess ninety
two, but he would guess. He would goes, I don't That's how
the NFL's twitter got hacked. Yes, that's what I'm saying. I go
sometimes if you're if we make too easy for us to remember other people who
are I don't know or O, you well can hacking. I'm not even
saying yeah, outside forces, I'm talking about your family could hack in if
they know that Danny's a big Yankee fan and it's Jeter two. Yeah,
you know. I mean that's why I always have a special method for my
passwords. Yeah, for every password. It's a special it's a very special
method which I'll not get into here. But the thing is, though you
have all different passwords, oh yes, yeah, yes, all different passwords,
but I have a special formula that I use. But you know,
if you use the same password for seventeen different things, you're gonna get hacked.
Guys, You're gonna get hacked. It's going to happen, you know,
So I mean so yeah, but passwords are tough but yeah, and
names. So I have a funny story about my wife. Yeah. I
finally realized who she was when I was like first, like, oh,
wow, she's beautiful. I like to talk to her. I go,
hey, her band opened up for a little uh they call it Toys for
Tots and no, Brennan bell Knapp would always she was from the Fallen and
he would always do this event every year. He'd have five bands play for
a winter a winter show either at Pineapple Jacks or whatever, and the admission
was a donated toy. And so we were the third band. Her band
was in the first band. And I'm watching it, I'm like, wow,
she's really she's really pretty. She's really good, you know, as
I'm going to introduce myself, like, oh, hi, I'm Dan,
Dan, It's Beth. Yeah, nice to meet you, Beth. We've
met like seven times. I've been at six of your shows. You've been
to one of mine before. But nice to meet you. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, Beth. She didn't she was like she was cool. I
remember her name for that point forward, and now we're married, she still
does. She still breaks my stones over sure, I'm sure, all right,
we'll take a moment. I'll give you the This is an interesting story,
one that I think you can relate to, and I can totally totally
see how a person in this situation may feel. But my advice would be
different. Okay, all right, all right, yeah, it would almost
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never heard. No so hacky Diamonds. No it's not. I'm wearing the
shirt, but I have no stock? Is this Johnny Close? Not close?
Actually, but I see what you were saying as John Hyatt, Okay,
John Hia Macgoner's. Actually you did this with a band called I always
liked it. We have to check out some new music this week. Well,
there's so much music, right. There's a like when we play that
game, there's a whole era that I didn't really pay attention to. I
don't know Puddle of Mud that well. And I like some of the stuff.
I don't you know, some of those post grunge bands. I don't
really know those early two thousands. Yeah, if they weren't pop, I
don't think I you know, because uh, Top forty State were around,
and I kind of like pop music. To be honest with you, I
do too. Yeah. I played the tiki torches open because I'm talking to
a friend of mine and he, uh, he like some people, and
I like this. I have a friends with a couple. They've been married
for six years, probably together for thirteen, and at the end of June
they celebrate their first date more than they celebrate their wedding anniversary. And I
always thought it was the woman because I'm like, well, guy, I
can remember the fucking first date of their first date. I can probably tell
you. I can tell you where I went on first dates with people,
but I can't tell you what the date was. I had have no fucking
clue. I remember one day where I was at I was in college and
I was at TGI Fridays and we're having dinner and I'm all of a sudden,
I'm looking at the TV and I go, why am I watching bowling?
I don't even like bowling? And that chick never let me forget that,
never let me forget it. But the this is Uh, but I
thought that was kind of cool. But this is the avice, So this
chick to celebrate like they've been together for two years dating, she's divorced,
he's never been married, engaged, but never married. Uh. They she
wants to go to Lake George. She loves Lake George. There's some area
around like George. It's I guess kind of nice. That's right. And
he but that's where she used to go with her husband. Now she's been
divorced for a number of years. He doesn't want to go because that's where
she would go on vacation with her husband. Okay, right now, what
is your thoughts? She wants to go that's one of like there's some maybe
I'm wrong, somewhere in the Anirondecks that she loves. She loves going,
and it's near Lake George. From what I can understand, they Okay,
why, because I mean it kind of shows insecurity in your part, does
that you don't want to go somewhere where she went with her ex husband.
I could understand why, like all of a sudden, like he's you know,
all of a sudden, now you're replacing the ex husband. Before you
know it, She's gonna start to groom you like the ex husband. So
she misses the ex husband. So now this is kind of like a way
to bring back her ex husband without being the ex Oskay, that's way deeper
than I ever would thought. I mean, no, no, no,
that's very very good. I'm saying like, yeah, I'll go, sure,
okay, whatever, but I'm okay. So my thing to guys like
can and I just don't want to go. It's like they had memories there
and all that stuff. And I said, yeah, but what if you
look at it this way? What if you look at it is it's one
of her favorite places to go, right, So that's not a their place,
it's a her place, and it's so special to her that she wants
to share it with whoever is she's closest to in her life, and that
at this moment in time, you is you? So why not think of
it that way and not think of it the other way? I go,
because you go the other way, and it's gonna ruin the entire fucking week
weekend long weekend. Wherever you decide to do, You're gonna destroy it.
Why why do that when if you can look at it the other way?
And maybe you make more memories or better memories, or have more fun or
I wouldn't be surprised if all of a sudden, I always wanted to do
this one when I was here, and he never wanted to. Now you're
you're one up. Yes, I mean there's a chance that that that happens.
Like we go with, you know, because what's the saying. It's
a stupid saying, but it's got some value. Happy wife, happy life,
right, I mean it's all give and take a little bit. But
I go just go and enjoy, you know, go with a shitty attitude.
It's gonna You're gonna have shit. I like to call that the illusion
of control. Who am I kidding? Uh, I don't know. I
saw somebody on TikTok just talking about this is wrong relationships. If he cheated
on you, he never loved you and doesn't love himself. I don't believe
that. You don't believe that. I don't believe that. I know some
I have talked to some people who have cheated on their significant others. They're
still together and yeah, and the reason was because they had some you know,
broken compulsion in their life. It had nothing to do with love.
It's just like, uh, it's like it's like it's like playing a toy,
or like doing something you're not supposed to do. It's like being rebellious
or and I'm not excusing any of that. It's wrong to cheat. I
wouldn't do it. I couldn't do it. But in their instances, you
know, the wife I kind of like understands that he's not cheating because he's
not satisfied with her, their love, their relationship. It's more that this
is what he does and he stopped. Yeah who could have? Who could
where it's to duplicate that woman? Who is that? Yeah, that's just
what he does. But I think what that big deal? Well, I
think on the flip side, I think she was insecure, uh, in
herself. This is the best I'll do. Well now, eventually they all
settled it. But I mean, it's like the people who cheat though,
don't love themselves. I can see where you're not happy with yourself, so
you're trying to find satisfaction outside yourself. I agree. You've got to be
stable inside, and that usually writes the ship. When you're not, you'll
look for things to fulfill it, whether it be drug, sex, something
something trying to fill that void or that hole. I'm not sure that you
don't love yourself. It's usually like even the milf that came in from Milk
Matter Too said she was dating a guy after her divorce for I think they
were together for seventeen years or no, he was seventeen years older than her
and they were together for a number of years. And then she even says
it on the reality show because I watched it, because they do like that,
you know, you just sit in front of the camera and do you
have my ex wife on the show? No, but she said that that
like the sex had died off and they were relationship, and so she cheated
and he found out and she goes. I really think that the cheating was
just kind of a way to get to the end, the end of the
relationship, you know, not the excuse. But when I look back as
to why did I do this instead of just ending it, I think I
didn't know how to end it. This happened and and and it ended it.
It was a way out, you know, subconsciously, like maybe I
was looking for a way out and I just wasn't strong enough to do it
the right way. I guess yeah, uh, that could be. I
don't know. You want to you want to end it, end it,
don't look for an excuse to end it or a way like end it.
You know. I think that's that's important. You need to maintain trust and
honorability no matter what. And it's hard in relationships, but you got you
gotta do it. You got to make the effort, you to yourself and
you to your wife or husband to do that. Yeah, I agree,
I agree. Yeah, my ex not my ex wife. My wife,
her ex husband like cheated on her once and she called his bloff it said
well she could take care of you, then hung up the phone. Oh
a week later he's calling back. Yeah, I'm sorry. She took him
back, and she regretted it late because he would do it again. Yeah,
you know, and eventually she said, Nope, we're done. I'm
not gonna do this anymore. I'm not going to take you back a second
time, you know. I mean, there's a lot of reasons people cheap,
but none of them are good. None of them are good. No,
they're not even a lack of sex. No, that's not a reason
cheat. Let's go to your relationship. Because it's summertime. Now your wife's
a teacher, not boo. Now you're boo. What time does she get
up during the school year? About five o'clock, five o'clock in the morning.
Yeah, she's up, and you're usually about eight. Okay, so
now it's summertime. I stay up later though, Okay, yeah, but
now it's summertime. Yes, okay, are you getting up at the same
time? Because I have a friend whose wife's a teacher, and she gets
up at five and he he usually gets up probably around six thirty seven,
and so it's another hour and a half to two hours, and he never
says anything, and she's, you know, getting ready and all this stuff,
and you know, lights are on and all that. He goes,
now it's summertime. She's sleeping, and he goes, I get up the
other day at seven thirty. You put something on. She's like, CA,
I'm trying to sleep. Bitch it, okay, bitch it. And
I go I wonder if Danny runs into this. No, no, my
wife still gets up early, just that as early, but she still gets
up early. We have two cats that are very needy, okay, and
so yeah, they're used to getting fed at like five fifteen and so now
it's like, what are you doing, man, what's up with that?
You know, we catch mice for you, do all this stuff for you,
so they're trained, right. So she she then she can't go back
to sleep and she can't nap either. My wife can't nap like I could
take a good nap, Oh I could. Did you know that? Like
I think I brought this up last week that I found out last week that
if you nap at least three four days a week, maybe just thirty minutes,
the ninety minutes don't go too far, that you will decrease your risk
for heart disease by thirty to sixty percent. There's not a pill in the
world that can do that for you. If you nap three days a week
during the day. Now it's hard because people are working, but if you
could get away to nap, nap, take that. Spain's got it right,
man. They shut down. Oh yeah, nothing's open. It's where
they used to. At least nothing's open. And you gotta you know,
midday supper. Yeah, America, man, we're going all day long.
Well, that's why we leave the pack all day all night. Now,
let's go, let's go the county destroyed. I don't know. I just
saw, well, hang on a second. Chinese were trying to launch a
rocket just the other day, but it was like a test and somebody accidentally
shot it off and wasn't supposed to happen, and it crashed into a mountain,
and I went, you know what, I like hearing that because we're
not the only ones that screw up. You know, it was some big,
expensive rocket. I don't know where it was going, what the purpose
of the study was. I just know it. There's somebody made a mistake.
I don't even know if there were human beings in it. I was.
I don't think it wasn't a miss but that's a good point. I
don't know. But it crashed into you entered the rock code yeah thing,
I don't know. I don't know what that is. Uh, since it's
summer too, I'll ask a few We'll wrap it up with a few couple
of questions. Here, pool, lake or beach? Which do you prefer?
I have a specific order for myself, actually I have a specific number
one. Yeah, pool, lake or beach? Which do you prefer?
I think I want to say the beach, the beach, yes, like
ocean beach. Yes, the lake area where I grew up, Yah had
a beach. You had beaches, yeah, yes, real beaches with real
sand. Yeah. It wasn't like I mean there were rocks, but there
was a lot of sand stuff. It wasn't like Lake Ontario where like you
don't want to go in there. It was actually clean and so like the
beach to me is like better the lake, you know. Yeah, But
I mean like if I got to like pull up to a dock, then
I'm like, I'm not as you know, I'm not as willing to do
it. I mean, it's not bad to look at the water, but
there's really not much you can do unless you get in a boat and go
somewhere and then what I don't fish so but a beach, yes, and
then in a pool you know. I mean I've been to people's pools and
I don't mind it, but then you're obligated to get into it. Yes.
I don't like doing like I go to beach, just lay out and
never go in the water once. Whereas a pool, yeah, you could
do that, but then you're at somebody's house. Now it's you know,
it's kind of like under their roof, their rules. You know so.
I mean not that they're weird or anything, but I could be myself at
a beach. Okay, all right, I'm a lake dude. You love
the lake. Love to run down the dock, jump off the dock,
climb up high into somebody's boat roof, you know, if they have like
a some kind of lean to or something that they have to their boat in.
I love to jump off that. I love to jet ski. I'll
go a boat's are great, But taking a swing. I love the big
rope that you swing out over the lake and you drop off of that.
I used to love to do this again. I fucking love lakes. Lakes
to me are the greatest. I don't know why not the great lakes.
I'm talking like a finger lake or lakes where I grew up. These little
lakes. Then I'm torn between a pool and a beach. Pool restricted,
but they can be relaxing. I had a pool for a number of years
that was kind of nice. I used to love to just sometimes it would
be very daring if no one was home. People always made fun of me.
I would jump in, skinny dip, swim around, hang out,
have a beer. I used to put a beer at one end of the
pool, go to the deep end, dive in, swim up, have
my beer in the shallow Yeah, I used to do that. I'm not
I used to float all the time. I'd like to just get on a
tube and float or a raft and just hang out. It was fucking it
was. I love water. And then I always loved the ocean as a
kid, the beach, except that the sand would getting the cracks your ass.
You know this or that. You know, sometimes the ocean would get
violent. My old man got dumped on his head body surfing and wound up
in the neck. Brace it. So I don't know. That was always
my my thing. So I would go probably I'm going to say lake Pool
beach. Now I have a question about the pool. So I've heard people
say pools are like boats. Yeah, the best day is the day you
buy them, in the day to sell them. Or it's like having another
kid. Yeah, because you have to take care of this stupid thing.
Yes. Is it worth having a pool? It was worth it when my
guys were little. I enjoyed the shit out of it. But I had
a pool that was it was an inground pool, but it was an older
pool. It was a home that was built nineteen sixty three. I don't
know when the pool went in, and I remember, you know, we
did different things. I got the flat cover the tunnel that no one could
fall through, that kind of thing, you know, that wouldn't really trap
water on it, so everything would drain through to the pool. And one
year, it's probably around February March warmer day, and I remember Jordan coming
in and going, hey, well happened to the water in the pool.
I go, you can't really see through. The guy goes, no,
there's water. Sure enough. There was a hole because it was a liner,
so I had to have it drained. I had to have it.
That's expensive. Oh fuck, it was a pain. So that was a
pain. Then I got a heater on the pool because so that that was
another thing. Then there was the sand filter when something else went The saltwater
pools are great because they're very low maintenance, but they're expensive. I was
going to convert it to salt water and then I want to just sort of
moving, but I would it's a pain in the ass. It's funny you
had at you had a pool all those years. Nobody ever gave you an
endorsement then you go over to like the other steer station, and all of
a sudden you have endorsements to help with your pool. You know? Is
that funny how salespeople know how to sell at some locations and the others.
What I'm just saying, Billy, all right, last question? It was
an opportunity lost? Who works harder when the grill is going? I saw
this wife for the or the or the guy on the grill, the husband
or the wife the wife. Yeah, the grill is just the guy.
Literally, you just flipped the burger Danny. Now after around, Like they
say, the man who runs the grill is the master of the house.
Don't ever let somebody else run your grill. You need to run your grill.
Yes, baby, I'll make dinner tonight. If you get the ingredients,
make the size, season the meat, put me outside and help me
find my tongues in spatula. I'll grill and you can just relax. Yes,
Yes, it's always the wife. She's making the salads grilled, she's
washing the dishes. I have a william Sonomo Grilling grilling cookbook that I loved,
and I used to follow the recipes. Marinate the meat for a couple
of days and then go out. But I didn't make any of the sides.
I would buy them. Yeah, I would buy it. Yeah,
yes, for a while, but most of the time I never got to
the grill would be fired up and going. I would say, hey,
I want to do this, and it would already be happening because people would
take over everything and would drive me fucking insane. Hey, by the way,
the joyceph by the way. You know, like as the moment that
we're doing this podcast, you know, we don't know who our next president,
it's going to be all that stuff. So I'm telling you we are
taping this a little earlier than you're hearing it. And for some reason,
I think over the holiday weekend we are going to hear that Biden stepping down
as it can. I think that's a very very distinct possibility. I've thought
that since that debate, inflation has been a big thing. So I was
talking to a guy the other day and when was the last time you had
a Wegman's Because we mentioned Wegmans and like condiments and stuff for a cookout,
When was the last time you had a Wegman six dollars meal? When it
was six dollars. When was the last time you had a Wegmans six dollar
meal? I don't even know. I think it means that now. I
thought there were eight dollar meals. They're now thirteen dollars. Well they're not.
Oh they're not. No, they're not. I was just told the
other day, dude, I bought those thirteen dollars. No, they're more
than that. It depends on what you get. But I was going to
say, I've bought the meals. I'll always have a little Thanksgiving before Thanksgiving,
and I love they're prepared. They're fourteen or fifteen dollars. Okay,
I like meat loaf once in a while, I'm not gonna make it.
I'll go to Wegmans and buy the prepared meal with the meal loaf in it,
which sounds so weird. But that's like fourteen dollars. So yeah,
I don't think they don't have six dollar meals. I thought they had eight
dollars. After that, Yeah, then they became eight dollars, then they
became ten. Now they're Yeah. This hasn't been married. I haven't paid
attention because I have my wife cooks. I'd rather cook and do this stuff.
Well, it's like fifteen dollars. Yeah, it is. But here's
the way I look. We blame that, Oh no, but here's what
I would Here's what I would say. It's much like going It's cheaper than
going to a restaurant, because if you took your wife out and you've got
a full meal, an entree, you're not paying fifteen dollars for because I
think sometimes they include a little dessert in there. So it's you're getting either
two sides and the meal for fifteen bucks. So now let's say you buy
two Let's say it's thirty dollars. If you pick up a bottle of wine
on your way home, that's ten to fifteen to call it fifteen. Let's
say you can take a middle thing. Right, So now you're at forty
five and there's still if you eat it out of the containers. There's no
dishes, right except your wine glass, but the dishwager you could use the
U texils that you could get from Wegman. You could. Actually it's cheaper
than going out. It is. It's cheaper than going out, and I
think you have to look at it that way because I'm with you. It's
like, oh, we shoot they're charging. That was my first reaction,
killings. No, no, I'm killing twenty twenty four. Part of it
could be the economy. I don't know. The economy seems to be coming
back a little bit. But yes, prices are high and we're hearing that
a lot about Wegmans. People are finding alternatives to shop and stuff. But
the way I look at it is, let's say it was a date night
and you're going to do a stay date instead of a go out date.
You could do that and you could even plate it. Then you got dishes,
but it would be I think if you go out for a meal like
that, I'm always thinking your ballpark one twenty five minimum. I think.
I think if you go out for a decent meal, yeah, a minimum.
Oh that's that's yeah. I'm saying before tip, before tip, before
tip, That's the way I look at it. So you might as well
pretend to grill and uh, get the meal. I don't know. I
don't know, Danny. It's always fun when we're hanging out. Absolutely.
Uh, we will see at some point this week. I hope everybody's having
a great summer so far. Be the man of your grill. Yes,
that's right. Somebody else doesn't. They're the man of your grill. That's
right. You don't want that. No for Dan Marilla off, Noil Bart.
We'll see you next time.