WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:13.080 It's the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every Day. Let's complete the annual 2 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:24.879 tradition of grading the Cincinnati Bengals draft class. You are Locked On Bengals, 3 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:31.000 your daily Cincinnati Bengals podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, Your 4 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:36.520 Team every Day. What up, Bengals Fans, and welcome to another episode 5 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:38.880 of the Lockdown Bengals Podcast. I'm your host, Jake. Let's go. 6 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:42.600 He's your host, James Orpene. We're on the Lockdown Podcast Network. Here 7 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:46.799 on Lockdown Bengals, covering your team every day, on YouTube, everywhere you 8 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.159 get your podcasts. 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And the fact that in the span of what 26 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:15.560 fourteen months, you get Orlando Brown junior at left tackle and you get this 27 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:20.479 kid and Amarus Mims, who is going to be following around Orlando and learning 28 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:23.759 from Orlando for not just this year, but multiple years. That's the exact 29 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:29.000 site the type of setup that you want. So even if you're worried about 30 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:34.560 his experience. I think that this is the ideal scenario, the ideal situation. 31 00:02:34.919 --> 00:02:37.879 Oh and by the way, everyone hates Frank Pollack, right, that's 32 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.240 big among the fan base. Frank Pollack stinks, that's what everyone's saying. 33 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:43.800 Well, now he at least has a first round tackle to work with, 34 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:49.080 in a first round tackle that he can groom. And from a talent perspective, 35 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:52.039 they brought in veterans, and I think those veterans have played fine, 36 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:55.919 but they haven't given him this. And outside of Billy Price, who he 37 00:02:55.960 --> 00:03:00.520 coached for one year and then he was off to the Jets and it was 38 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.719 kind of weird, right because of the coaching change, Frank hasn't had this 39 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.000 in Cincinnati. So I think it makes sense to give Frank Pollack an elite 40 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:13.919 talent and see what happens with it. I also think that a Marius Mimms's 41 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.199 ceiling is as high as any offensive tackle in this draft. I think his 42 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:20.840 floor is higher than a lot of people give him credit for. I think 43 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.240 he's going to work hard, and someone at that size six eight three forty 44 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:29.479 if he works hard, I think at worst he's a solid pass protector lead 45 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:31.919 at this level, which is a pretty good fit in Cincinnati. So this 46 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:36.159 is an a for me. Yeah, come in just a hair lower. 47 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:38.520 And the way that I think about this is a few ways. One of 48 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:40.919 them is does this suggress in need? I think it does. There's a 49 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:46.080 long term need for the Cincinnati Bengals to tackle. They have needed for a 50 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:51.639 long time athleticism and high end talent on the offensive line in front of Joe 51 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.319 Burrow. They get that on a cost control basis with the Marius Mims. 52 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:59.280 So yeah, they hit a need here. It's not a pressing starter need 53 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.680 per se, but it is a long term need. They needed to improve 54 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:08.000 depth and we've been asking for them to add athleticism and talent to this offensive 55 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:11.599 line group since Joe Burrow was drafted. So in that sense, I like 56 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.879 that about the pick, and then I think about the floor in the ceiling. 57 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:17.199 You mentioned that the floor is maybe a little bit higher than some people 58 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:20.800 think. He does need to prove that the injury stuff is behind him, 59 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:24.920 and there's no reason to think it's not. But he needs to prove that 60 00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:29.680 he can stay on the field. You know, we all saw Nick Saban 61 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:35.279 question his football toughness. I guess when he took himself out of the game 62 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:40.240 when he aggravated that ankle injury. I'm not sure how sure how much I 63 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:46.319 buy that Nick Saven talking about arrival of course in the SEC Championship game playing 64 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:50.079 for Georgia. But between the ankle injury and the hamstring injury, you just 65 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:53.879 need to make sure that he can stay healthy again. I think he can. 66 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.279 It's a small amount of the risk baked into the profile. The other 67 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.920 bit of the risk is he inexperienced, and when you look at his tape, 68 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:03.959 there's some things to clean up from a technical perspective. But as I've 69 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:08.560 said on this show a few times, natural pass protector, the pass pro 70 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:13.000 footwork looks great already. That's what the Bengals care about more than anything else. 71 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:15.000 There's just a little bit of risk in this pick where you can see 72 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:19.160 that maybe he doesn't end up being a top end player in the league. 73 00:05:19.240 --> 00:05:23.399 I think he probably should. It's a B plus for me because you can 74 00:05:23.399 --> 00:05:26.000 see that the top end is an A plus and we might look back on 75 00:05:26.040 --> 00:05:28.160 this in a couple of years and say, yeah, he hit that top 76 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.000 end. He's a great offensive tackle, maybe the best right tackle in this 77 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:34.360 draft class. Then you're more than justified. But when you bake in the 78 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:38.680 risk a little bit, that's what brings it down just a hair for me. 79 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:42.399 The other thing is is should you be able to get an A with 80 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:46.680 every pick? This is a philosophical thing. Maybe you should say he should 81 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.240 be graded against the other options and for the guys that were available. The 82 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:55.439 only other guys I would argue for the Bengals in that pick were Johnny Newton, 83 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:58.959 who went much later in the second round, and maybe Quinnyaon Mitchell a 84 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:04.120 couple picks later, the cornerback going to the Philadelphia Eagles. But for the 85 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:08.319 Bengals, hard to knock taking a tackle here. Like I said, I 86 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.040 like the need, I like the fit. I like that he doesn't have 87 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:14.839 to play right away. It's just is it the best value? Is it 88 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.519 the the risk? Those are the things that bring it from an A to 89 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:19.639 a B plus for me, still really close to an A. I still 90 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:24.000 think it's a good pick, and I'd like the upside a lot. Man. 91 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:28.000 You hedged about fifty two times to make sure that people understood that you 92 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.319 like this pick. No, I mean I get it. I do. 93 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:38.160 I think that his floor is like Trent Brown, I'll just slo that's a 94 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:41.519 hell of a floor. That's better than any offensive lineman they've drafted in like 95 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:46.839 a decade. Hopefully the floor doesn't include Trent Brown's availability. And he's much 96 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:50.279 more healthy over his career than Trent Brown has been, in no doubt, 97 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:54.319 and in the health part. That's that's ever we're about to talk about health 98 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:58.000 for all of these guys, including Chris Jenkins, who we should get to 99 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:00.279 the Bengals. You mentioned Johnny Newton. By the way, the bengalside Chris 100 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:05.759 Jenkins right underneath Johnny Newton on their Day two board. They weren't really considering 101 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:09.879 him at that eighteen spot. I do think he was a trade down candidate 102 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.639 and they might have had a first round grade on him, certainly high on 103 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.279 their board. So it was Chris Jenkins and they felt really good about the 104 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:18.240 pick. And what's not the like about the pick? I gave it a 105 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:23.120 B plus. I just think it's all the round, solid like everything about 106 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:26.600 it. I think there's the risk profile, there's no real risk. I 107 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:29.879 think he's going to be a hit. I think the character wise fits. 108 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:32.639 I think he's going to be a captain by year three probably. I think 109 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.800 he has the right energy, the right vibe, the right talent to play 110 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:40.920 right away and be a run stopper for sure. And maybe he does have 111 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.120 a bit more as a pass rusher that we haven't seen because there's some untapped 112 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:48.040 athleticism there. There's really nothing that you can't like about this pick to me 113 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:53.519 at least. And the other element is it obviously does feel a need both 114 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.920 short term and long term. B plus solid all the way around, like 115 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:01.839 an eighty eight percent good stuff on Christie. Yeah, solid B for me. 116 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:05.199 I would have liked to have seen the Bengals be aggressive here trade up 117 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:09.040 for Johnny Newton. We know the price to get right in front of that 118 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.519 pick because we saw a team trade up there. It would have been expensive. 119 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:16.399 That's how much higher Johnny Newton was in my mind than Chris Jenkins was. 120 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:18.720 But I know that that wasn't the case for the Bengals the other alternatives 121 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:22.959 here. I'm fine with Chris Jenkins pick. I would have considered perhaps Zach 122 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:28.759 Frasier with that pick, just because there's your center of the future. He 123 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.679 could play guard for you right away. I think out of West Virginia and 124 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.200 he goes to the Steelers a couple picks later. The other thing that I 125 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:39.519 think you can debate and we'll be watching over time is Chris Jenkins versus Michael 126 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.000 Hall's career. The Bengals later go with the nose tackles, So would you 127 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.000 rather have a player with more pass rushing upside? Here? That being said, 128 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:50.039 I do like the Chris Jenkins pick. I'd like, as Steve Paulozola 129 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:54.639 talked with us about yesterday, the run defense, playmaking ability for Chris Jenkins, 130 00:08:54.639 --> 00:09:00.000 a block destruction, getting off blocks, all things of Bengals badly needed. 131 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:05.159 And he improves their GT three immediately and should improve it significantly if he 132 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:07.120 can hit the ground running. And I love the personality. I love the 133 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:13.360 way that he interacted with the media when he arrived in town. The positivity, 134 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.080 the willingness to eat a bunch of Skyline chili if you needed to get 135 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:20.039 to his dad's weight and play nose tackle at three forty or whatever. It 136 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:24.039 was so really love the personality. Could certainly see him being a captain in 137 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:26.240 short order, and they needed some leadership and so if that's part of what 138 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:28.840 they get with Chris Jenkins, that's an upgrade for the pick. As well. 139 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:31.480 Yeah, And honestly, if they had gone with my call and I 140 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:35.039 liked the player, this isn't revisions history. But you talk about two guys 141 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:39.039 that are young and haven't played a ton, and that you wonder availability wise 142 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.039 in all of those things, it would just be tying it in there. 143 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.840 But no, I think they wanted more of a guy that could play every 144 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:48.720 down and I'm sure they looked at my call and said he's not a three 145 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:52.960 down guy and they know it. Chris Jenkins can be. He can be, 146 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.440 He's not yet and he needs to get there. And if he does 147 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.000 that again, we'll look back on this pick and we'll see an A. 148 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.840 Let's get to those two third round picks to the beginning of Day three coming 149 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:07.639 up next. Today's episode of Lockdown Bengals is sponsored by eBay Motors. Passion, 150 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:13.039 Drive and Patience. 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The Chiefs have a Marius memes 185 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.240 that Patrick Mahomes has his left tackle of the future. By the way, 186 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:45.000 he did play left and right tackle at Georgia in practice, rotated all the 187 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:48.600 time, didn't flinch when we asked him if he was comfortable playing both. 188 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.039 So that's what he's going to do obviously for the Bengals. But yeah, 189 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:56.200 can you imagine can you imagine the press home franchise left tack? Chiefs go 190 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:03.039 aggressive and point is is it's a hell of a prospect and they're all risks. 191 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.840 Billy Price was the safest pick in a decade, right, No, 192 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:11.600 not right wrong, And so Amarus Mims has those physical traits, just overwhelming 193 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:15.360 physical traits and obviously some good film to back it up when he was on 194 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:18.600 the field. So I'm glad you pointed that out because I didn't see that 195 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.080 until Tuesday morning. That being said, we got to get to use at 196 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:26.639 day three. It's round three, baby, in the biggest three. Maybe 197 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.440 I messed it up anyway. You s to get surprise, but biggest surprise 198 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:35.159 he's got to be Jermaine Burden And I'm still kicking myself. I can't believe 199 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.360 I didn't consider it more and I don't think we did. We know he 200 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.120 had a Top thirty with the Bengals. I don't think we knew that part 201 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.559 that would have thrown us obviously in the right direction. He had six top 202 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:54.200 thirty visits, including Cleveland in Cincinnati. But this pick, we obviously know 203 00:13:54.240 --> 00:14:00.679 about the character stuff and the maturity stuff, and multiple schools Georgia Alabama in 204 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:05.159 college, but multiple high schools, the storming the field incident where he allegedly 205 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.440 hit a woman who stormed the field, and all of the things that go 206 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:16.240 into that, Like there's just there's a ton there of speculation about the off 207 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.799 the field character and then obviously the storming the field incident, we have a 208 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:26.120 better account of that. Being said, the reason why I like the pick 209 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:31.799 and the reason why I understand it is one, what's the point of having 210 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:39.799 this awesome culture if you can't bring someone in and get them in the mix 211 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:45.000 in tune with your culture. Remember the Patriot way, it was such a 212 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:48.639 thing, a Patriot way. Well, Belichick would bring in guys like this 213 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:54.120 all the time, and like veterans that were that weren't young impressionable guys that 214 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:58.840 could come into the culture. So Zach Taylor clearly wanted this guy. I'm 215 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.559 sure that the scouting departm I'm sure everybody did. But Zach Taylor clearly one 216 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:05.279 of this guy. And it's easy to see why. And if they did 217 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:09.519 all this homework on him and met with him and then brought him in for 218 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.039 a top thirty visit and they feel like he does fit culture wise and they 219 00:15:13.039 --> 00:15:16.399 will be able to get the most out of them or out of him. 220 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:20.960 Who am I to say otherwise? They haven't done this during the Zach Taylor 221 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:24.759 arrow much and so we'll see. This is a good test, but on 222 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:28.559 field wise, and the reason why I give this at B plus is because 223 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:33.799 he's the perfect fit. He can do everything the Bengals want. Whatever receiver 224 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:35.600 they were going to draft this year, whatever they wanted him to do, 225 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:41.399 Burton can do it. And I think he fits well with even the young 226 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:43.720 guys andre Yosavasch and Charlie Jones. It's not just Jamar Chason T. Higgins. 227 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:48.720 He fits well with the entire receiver room. I think he's going to 228 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.879 get the most snaps, third most snaps, I would say out of those 229 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.840 receivers, and so he's going to make an instant impact. He's going to 230 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:58.240 bring you a dynamic that you haven't had. There is some risk, but 231 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:03.120 there's also some value, and that risk and value bounced out some and that's 232 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:04.879 why I give this a B plus. And Lord knows I love receivers, 233 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.080 so there might be a little curve there. Baby, Yeah, I'll go 234 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:12.360 be here as well. I think I'm just a sterner greater than you in 235 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:18.639 general, no surprise, there is there no surprise or you just I don't 236 00:16:18.639 --> 00:16:22.720 know. I don't know how you couldn't give Amarus Smims an A. But 237 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:25.039 anyways, go ahead. Yeah, no, I mean there's no surprise. 238 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:26.159 I still don't. I listened to you for five minutes. I have no 239 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:29.960 idea. I'm a harder greater than you. Yeah. Well, part of 240 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.159 it is, like we'll see rock Powers would have been as trading up for 241 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:36.720 Johnny Newton would have been an A for me. So like there are things 242 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:40.440 if they didn't consider or weren't available to them, that I would consider an 243 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:44.840 A. So I'm just grading on in a different way. Perhaps, what 244 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.200 would you have done if they had passed on Brock for a Marius. I 245 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:51.600 don't know, Like what would you you would be given like a Marius, 246 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:53.000 like a b B like it would be lower, he'd be docked, right. 247 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:57.879 I don't think he's just like if I were consistent with what the way 248 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:03.039 I'm thinking about it, he's shouldn't be gotcha. I'm just curious because I 249 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:06.039 think they would have passed on Brock. There's a little nugget. I think 250 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:08.400 they would have passed on Brock for Mims. I do. I'm pretty confident 251 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:14.920 in that. So Jamae Burton, the offside is at least you've gotten a 252 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:18.880 player one round later than he could have been drafted if he was clean off 253 00:17:18.920 --> 00:17:22.680 the field. At least I can't wait to tell you my comps go ahead, 254 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:25.319 keep going, which is? Which is? What you love about that 255 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:33.440 pick and the ability to add this vertical, explosive receiver awesome could be an 256 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:38.000 easy running mate for Jamar Chase cost controlled for four years. Love that very 257 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:42.799 next pick. Christian Hayes would have loved to see an interior offensive lineman here 258 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:45.799 as well. Christian Haines twenty four years old, though, so is that 259 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:49.440 something to put them off there? The other offensive lineman that went in this 260 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:52.680 range on the interior because there's a little bit of a run between Burton and 261 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.200 McKinley Jackson, Zach Center and Dominic Pooney both twenty three, twenty four, 262 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.880 twenty four years old. So Burton giving you a potential wide receiver in the 263 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:04.559 future and it's only down because of the of the risk. Can he keep 264 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:07.240 it together? Can he stay focused in Cincinnati? Because if he can, 265 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:12.279 there's easy wide receiver two upside and you love that fit with Jamar Chase. 266 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:15.759 It's just Kenny keep it together, stay focused, stay on the field, 267 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:21.839 and keep football, you know, as his priority, and do all the 268 00:18:21.880 --> 00:18:23.079 things that you need to do to play in the NFL at a high level. 269 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:26.079 Yeah, I think he's going to give them an element that they haven't 270 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:32.599 had in the Floor, And the Floor is obviously character aside, it's almost 271 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:34.039 like health like. Of course, he needs to be on the field and 272 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:37.440 mature and doing the right things off the field to be successful. But I 273 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:41.759 think the Floor, if he does that, is like Kenny stills like the 274 00:18:41.759 --> 00:18:45.160 Floor, where he's this deep threat, the straight line guy that's going to 275 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:48.720 help you some and be that for you. And in round three, that's 276 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:52.480 not the end of the world the ceiling though. Is he Terry McLaurin, 277 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:57.359 Is he Doug Baldwin? Is he one of these Round three guys that by 278 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:02.240 week five of the NFL season has three touchdowns And you're like, oh, 279 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:06.799 oh, this dude, this dude's gonna matter And he very well could be. 280 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:11.519 And I think he fits this offense really really well. And so yeah, 281 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.839 I like the pick was shocked. Again. 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So your ten point one 299 00:20:33.079 --> 00:20:37.880 quick note about pick eighty and it would have fallen in line I think in 300 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.279 an ideal world, and it has to do with McKinley Jackson, and I 301 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:45.359 might have said it on the pod. I think Devandre Sweat was very much 302 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:49.240 in play for the Bengals, which I got that one wrong too, not 303 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:52.480 in play at forty nine, So it's not like, oh, if he 304 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.079 had fallen nine or eleven picks, because man, the Titans took him at 305 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:00.799 his ceiling. Man, they took him like that that in it last month 306 00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:04.200 didn't have or earlier this month didn't happen. They did at thirty eight. 307 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:07.799 But if he was there at eighty. I think the Bengals would have picked 308 00:21:07.799 --> 00:21:11.880 and Andre Sweat at eighty and then they would have sweated it out hoping that 309 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.160 Jermaine Burton was there at ninety seven. I think that was very much in 310 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.000 play. It didn't happen, of course, because he got picked thirty eighth 311 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:22.440 overall, so it might not even be worth noting, but I do think 312 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:25.640 it is worth noting and mentioning that. I do think that there was a 313 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:30.400 real shot at the Bengals pick to Andre Sweat with their first third round pick. 314 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.720 It is good context because instead the Bengals picked McKinley Jackson, who's a 315 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:38.359 massive consensus reached, probably their biggest consensus consensus reach in the draft, and 316 00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:42.759 a refa set. I just set harsh grad up. I just set you 317 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:47.480 up to just boom dunk on them. I didn't mean to do that, 318 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:48.880 but go no, I mean it is what it is. Right. They 319 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.920 can't all be winners, and I'm rooting for them, right like I'm rooting 320 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:55.480 for all these picks. I'm rooting for the Bengals to be more correct than 321 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:57.559 me on all of these just to be abundantly clear about that. But McKinley 322 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:03.640 Jackson reach on the consensus board and a Refassan's research on consensus boards, which 323 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:06.480 is something he spends a lot of time on every year, says that consensus 324 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:11.599 reaches tend to be real reaches and consensus value picks tend to not be real 325 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.880 value picks. So there's no such thing as a steal, but there is 326 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.759 such thing as a reach. Is on average what the research tells us, 327 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.680 because the NFL knows more than the consensus does for guys that fall and there's 328 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:26.920 a reason the guy that teams are passing on players in general, not that 329 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:30.079 they're always right, but it only takes one team to be wrong on a 330 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.759 reach, and it takes every team to be wrong on a faller. That's 331 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:37.079 the logic there, if that makes sense. So McKinley Jackson being a reach 332 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.240 that he is, he does fill a need. It's like a D plus 333 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.920 for me. He does have some athletic tools to work with. The first 334 00:22:45.960 --> 00:22:48.599 step power is nice. He's going to be playing a different role in Cincinnati 335 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.559 from the one gaping that he did at Texas A and M, and he 336 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:56.640 needs to kind of figure out how to play controlled use his body type to 337 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:02.400 play nose tackle instead of trying to be a penetrating three tech gap shooter kind 338 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:06.039 of player for the Bengals, if they want him to be in that DJ 339 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:08.640 reader role at all, and he's the only body type on the team, 340 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:14.240 maybe not the only body type on the team, but probably the best player 341 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:18.640 on the team with that body type or the most investing player on that team 342 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:19.839 with that body type, he's going to be asked to play that role this 343 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.640 year and there will be that adjustment and he'll need to hit the ground running. 344 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:27.880 So again, hope the Bengals are right on this one and that he 345 00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:33.240 develops quickly. But the nose tackles in this class. Everybody we talked to 346 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:36.799 coming into the draft was like, yeah, you can wait until late day 347 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:38.680 three, and the Bengals, i think, felt like they needed to get 348 00:23:38.680 --> 00:23:41.640 one, They needed to get the one that they felt the best about, 349 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:45.799 and so they went with that. Here. It just feels like they went 350 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:49.519 with it a little bit earlier than they had to sure, and speaking of 351 00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:52.839 that, just to show you how much they wanted it, I think he 352 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:56.680 was also in play at eighty right, So like the fact that he fell 353 00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:00.960 in their minds to ninety seven. All right, Well, let's get our 354 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.839 guy, and so I give it a sea. I think it's it is 355 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:07.839 a reach. I think that it's something I wouldn't have done. At the 356 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:11.759 same time, we had Steve Polozolo on from Pro Football Focus yesterday and I 357 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.680 asked him right, well, who would you have taken? And the options 358 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:21.079 are answer answered on day three with whoever's there, and they clearly felt like 359 00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:23.720 McKinley Jackson was better. Hopefully he is. I give it a c all. 360 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:27.319 Right, eric Al who not a surprise. We've talked about eric All. 361 00:24:27.359 --> 00:24:30.680 They met with him with the top thirty visit, someone that on Bengals 362 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:36.119 Talk dot Com I mocked just around later. So I think the early factor 363 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:41.119 here Matters had a serious back injury at Michigan missed the twenty twenty two season. 364 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:44.079 Former captain. He is a Cincinnati native, went to Fairfield High School 365 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:48.240 and then was productive at Iowa last year kind of flashed a bit before tearing 366 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.559 his ACL in October. I like the talent. I think he can be 367 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:56.799 exactly what they're looking for at tight end. My question is health. I 368 00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:59.319 think he can be the past catcher. I think he can be explosive enough 369 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:00.480 with the ball in his hand, so I think he can block at a 370 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:06.039 high level. Will he stay healthy? Huge question mark felt like a bit 371 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:08.799 early for me. And it's a dart throw, but it's a dart throw 372 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.599 you make in the fourth round, so there's some risk involved, there is 373 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.079 some upside involved. I think this is an average pick. I'll give it 374 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.160 a solid see. Yeah, I think c Plus, I'm actually a little 375 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.279 bit higher than you on this pick. But it is brought down by the 376 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.839 fact that it does feel early for eric All based on what we were expecting 377 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:26.799 in the draft. I just look at the players they passed on here. 378 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:32.160 They could have gone back to interior offensive line and still found some decent tight 379 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:34.480 end prospects later, maybe even eric All later. We're not sure where he 380 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.640 would have gone, of course, had the Bengals not picked him, but 381 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:42.200 Tanner, Borderlini, Mason McCormick, Jalen Wright all going in the next handful 382 00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:49.519 of picks. So some guys that probably by consensus would have been higher, 383 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:53.680 they were higher on our board as well. So while I like the player, 384 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:56.200 I like the film, I like the upside. They might have a 385 00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.119 solid tight end here and eric All if he develops and if he can and 386 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.440 stay healthy. And that's what brings it up for me a little bit. 387 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:07.440 Going a little bit early here again drops it just a little bit for me 388 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.000 with some players that I really liked and had some other positions going in the 389 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:17.319 next handful of picks. But then we're back to Josh Newton. The Bengals 390 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:22.599 pick at one, right in line with Consensus's hard to knock them for reaching 391 00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:26.279 on this one. But what are your thoughts. I think when you talk 392 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:30.519 about a physical corner, someone that has good ball skills and intelligence, doesn't 393 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:34.519 have elite speed, I think has exactly what they're looking for from an AFC 394 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:40.279 North mentality perspective. Just talking with him a bit, he's he's got some 395 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:47.559 dog in him and he could have went earlier, like there were some that 396 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.039 especially a year ago, right, and these things change and fluctuate, But 397 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:55.799 he was held in pretty darn high regard, and so it's not crazy to 398 00:26:55.839 --> 00:27:00.640 me to think a guy who could play inside outside has a here not only 399 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:02.720 to make the team. I think they do think he'll make the team, 400 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:06.400 but you know, be a building block. So I like it. I 401 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:10.039 do think that there's there were you know, interior offensive line. It's like 402 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.079 at some point can you can you get one? So when you talk about 403 00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:17.839 who's on the board who you could take that that is a factor always when 404 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.359 you get to these picks. At the same time running back, that was 405 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:23.119 another one that I was thinking, like, well will they take one and 406 00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.480 they wanted to get a corner. I'll give it a solid C plus as 407 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.119 well. So I think U, C and C plus. Day Day four 408 00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:36.160 off to an average start for me Day four, Day three, Day three, 409 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:37.599 See you screwed me up with your Day three coming earlier. Yeah, 410 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:41.359 I gotcha. This is day baby, Josh Newton. Also see for me 411 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.640 solid corner depth. I think that's what you would expect to get with this 412 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.839 pick. See being an average pick. This this is an average pick I 413 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.640 think at this point in the draft. So totally fine with the pick. 414 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.680 I think he provides that good depth, He provides a great mentality, and 415 00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:57.799 like you said, coming into the season, was was seen as a as 416 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:00.799 a higher graded prospect. There are some guys that I like better. You're 417 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.160 right, but not a ton Makai Wingo Quantes Stegger is a guy that we 418 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.799 talked about a ton last week going in that round between the Bengals, Wingo. 419 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:12.000 Then oh baby, I mean he goes so late, and maybe they 420 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:17.200 would have because he went what five picks before they picked Tanner McLaughlin, which 421 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:21.200 is a pick I really like, by the way, So this one's gonna 422 00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.640 get a B plus for me. I think there is a legitimate chance for 423 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:27.400 him to make the team, for him to be a receiving tight end on 424 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:33.079 this team. I think the ability to get upfield and the speed really plays 425 00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:36.359 up at tight end. He might be their best athlete in the tight end 426 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.960 room. Mike the Sickie maybe takes that title probably, but ran a four 427 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.640 to six to one and it has some really nice receiving abilities. So I 428 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.559 like this pick. I think he can be a contributor and he can help 429 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:51.200 make that tight end room something that goes from a hole on the team to 430 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:53.559 something that's a solid position on the team. Yeah. I love that you 431 00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.240 mentioned the pass catching part because he's really really good at it, and he's 432 00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:00.279 a good athlete, and he's twenty five and needs to get in the weight 433 00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.319 room, gets stronger from a blocking standpoint, and show that he can earn 434 00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:08.839 that trust as a blocker, and so twenty five has the pass catching prowess 435 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.240 that they're looking for. I totally get it, but there's some obvious flaws 436 00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:15.799 there and that's why he was there, that's why he filled down some draft 437 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.480 boards. I think he'll make the team. I do, and so this 438 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.920 is a solid pick. But again me harsher than you that I knew I 439 00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.720 would be. This is what's funny is earlier in the show. Oh you're 440 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.920 a harsh No. I gave it a C. I think it's average. 441 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:36.319 I think he's tight end four this year. If eric All is healthy, 442 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:41.759 he's buried because eric All is a better prospect. Whuenhealthy and maybe you think 443 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.359 they should have just taken the risk on Christian Mahogany at that point. Who 444 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.279 falls all the way to pick two ten to Detroit and talking about inter your 445 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.880 offensive line. And that's that's the point for this next pick too. The 446 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.680 Bengals go with the athletics Cedric Johnson, who didn't necessarily have the production you 447 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:00.880 would like at ole Miss, but is a athlete. This one is just 448 00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.519 a solid see for me. We'll see if he can be anything in the 449 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.160 NFL. We'll see if he can make the team. I would have liked 450 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.039 bo Limmer here again going to the interior offensive line a little bit early, 451 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:15.000 even though I really liked the guy they took, you know, twenty picks 452 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.640 later on the interior offensive line. But there's upside with Cedric Johnson. It's 453 00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.240 just can he make the team? Can he put it together? I think 454 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.000 this is one of the harder, harder paths to actually making the roster. 455 00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:27.240 As we get to the end of the draft, you would expect to see 456 00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:30.200 that, and I think it starts here with Cedric Johnson, no doubt. 457 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.240 I mean, it's a deeper defensive end room, even though silly Trey Hendrickson 458 00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.200 trade request aside. So yeah, I give this a B plus because it's 459 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:44.279 a guy who produced at a young age athletic. You're talking about a sixth 460 00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:47.599 round now, pick two, fourteen, and this might be your Joseph o 461 00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:52.480 Cy replacement in the year. You know, this guy right away is competing 462 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.200 with who Jeff Gunter, and you know those guys will probably be on the 463 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:57.000 practice squad. You're right, it's gonna be hard to make the team, 464 00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.440 but who knows, maybe he does. You never know what happens. But 465 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.400 I like the swing at this stage of the draft, and at the same 466 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.720 time. You're right, Matt Lee wouldn't have minded it. Let's just do 467 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.920 both seventh round picks. Now, that's fine, We'll do Dejhon Anthony real 468 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.319 quick. So back to back, Ole, Miss What well, what you 469 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.079 talked into? A C plus on Cedric Johnson? Yeah, it's just worth 470 00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:22.680 it at this stage. And it's like an edge rusher. What if he 471 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.359 ends up being a rotational edge piece, Like if he does that, that's 472 00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:30.279 a huge win. You like the athletic dice roll here. Yep, exactly 473 00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:33.559 so Die john Anthony, first seventh round pick. We knew they had met 474 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.039 with him, we knew he was on their radar, special team er, 475 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:41.240 maybe maybe plays a little nickel certainly safety as well. Its gonna be tough. 476 00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:42.920 We'll see if he can make the team. It's gonna be depending on 477 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:47.720 those things. I think it's a C plus for me, just slightly. 478 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.440 It basically averaged slightly above it because I do think he can help on special 479 00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.119 teams and there might be some nickel upside as well. Yeah, just the 480 00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:57.480 same for me. Don't really know how this makes an impact short term, 481 00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.960 long term developmental players, special team player guy. They really liked the guy 482 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:06.599 they targeted guy they brought in. That's great see for me until I see 483 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:08.880 otherwise. Brendan Rice going the very next pick, jaheem Bell going a few 484 00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:12.160 picks later. I know they need to picked a couple tight ends at that 485 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.599 point, Rice Rice. What caused Rice to fall so far, I don't 486 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:19.480 know, is very curious. I'm willing to take that dice roll in the 487 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.119 seventh town. I'm also very willing to take the dice roll on Matt Lee. 488 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.759 This is the A for me, a top one hundred player on our 489 00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:28.839 board. Loved the athletic center, second athletic offensive line, and hope he 490 00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:30.880 has every opportunity to make this team as a backup center. I think he 491 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:36.039 can be a starter of the future. Really like this pick yep Athletic. 492 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.920 I would have been fine with him picking him pick one nine where Tarna McLaughlin 493 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:44.799 went, just to give you an idea, so you get him forty three 494 00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:49.400 picks later and multiple selections later for your team. I like it. Good 495 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.279 pass blocker athletic A for me as well. I think Trey Hill needs to 496 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.839 have a big camp. The downside is he's not versatile, and that's that's 497 00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:00.200 what sucks is you wait until round seven and you're getting a center only. 498 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:05.119 Some of these other interior linement we mentioned could have done both, but overall 499 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.559 that is an A for me in my overall grade. Jake, I think 500 00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:12.400 it's a solid B. It's right there. It's that there's upside for this 501 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.400 draft to be a set the table draft, much like twenty twenty was with 502 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:19.880 Burrow and Higgins and Wilson. Where we look at it, we're like man 503 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.079 that set the table for a run. And there's also some risk involved in 504 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.880 a lot of these picks, and so the answer somewhere in the middle. 505 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.799 So I think it's a B right now with a ton of upside and some 506 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.440 downside. Yeah, B minus for me just looking at all the grades and 507 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.680 running the masks. So Harsh, Well, that's just how it works out 508 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.160 when I when I do the math and wait a little bit for the early 509 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:43.279 rounds, because it would have been a C if I didn't wait heavy for 510 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.920 the early rounds, and those are the more so harsh. I'm just saying, 511 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:47.000 you're harsh. I don't know. It's tough, teacher. We could 512 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.480 look back and say these picks hit the upside. This is an A plus 513 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:54.319 draft. Yes, that's part of this that you like, it's also the 514 00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.559 part of this that you don't like because it feels like a home run or 515 00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.279 a strikeout, and there's there's not a whole lot of middle ground there. 516 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.079 I'm sure there is more middle ground than that, but it feels very boom 517 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.680 or bust, so very risky approach. That's what brings it down. But 518 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.280 if these guys do hit the ceilings that we think they can based on their 519 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:15.360 on tapeability, then they could have some cornerstone players. They could have up 520 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:17.840 to six starters in this draft class, so a lot that you could like 521 00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.400 if it works out. But it's a big if and that's what brings it 522 00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:25.559 down a little bit for me for a lot of those picks, and overall, 523 00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:29.559 even though I like the swings they took and if they do hit, 524 00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:35.599 the aggressiveness will have really paid off. We've got some more post draft reaction 525 00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.079 this week to get to. We're gonna talk to Mike Potts from the Cincinnati 526 00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:43.239 Bengals about the draft. We're gonna talk to Trevor Sikhima from Pro Football Focus 527 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:47.280 about the draft in some episode coming up soon as well here on Lockdown Bengals. 528 00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:52.440 So until then appreciate you listening to this episode of the Lockdown Bengals podcast. 529 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:58.039 Who Day and have a good one, Hey Prime members. You can 530 00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:04.880 listen to this Lockdown podcast app free on Amazon Music. 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