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Oh, and welcome to the show. I'm Martin willis your host. Um

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Well I mentioned last week I mentioned
that we may have the body language panel

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on and those are that's a panel
of four experts that actually have looked at

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a lot of you know, UFO
stories and people in the UFO field and

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to try to decide whether it appears
that they're telling you know, the truth

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about their stories and they it's it's
quite remarkable, uh, and not not

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just UFO people, but a lot
of other people and anyway they couldn't get

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it for them all together. They're
going to be on in the second or

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third week in September. It's gonna
be real tricky for a couple of weeks

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because the live shows on YouTube are
going to be different days. A matter

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of fact, I'm going to be
recording at a different time as well with

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Paul Dean from Australia because of the
time difference in date and all that.

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So, but next week don't forget
because if you watch the Unsolved Mysteries the

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Berkshire's UFO next week on the fifty
first anniversary of the actual incident, September

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first, I will have one of
the people that were in that Tom Warner,

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he's the artist, great guy.
I've spoken to him a number of

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times. That comes up just next
week. But tonight we have Geraldine Sutton

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Stiff and she will be speaking about
her family legacy, the Allie Hopkinsville encounter

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of nineteen fifty five. Now,
this particular incident has fascinated me actually since

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day one of looking into this topic. Um, you know, I heard

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this bizarre, bizarre story. I'm
going to have her, you know,

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go through, um the story.
So there are, like I mentioned a

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number of times on the show,
there's a lot of new people, um

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that are on this show all the
time. So um, it's possible that

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you know a lot of people have
never heard of this story. So I

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will, indeed, you know,
have her go through that and and uh,

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like I said, it's it's really
really crazy and I don't even need

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to get into it. She will. Um, don't forget to check out

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our website podcast UFO dot dot com. And while you're there, check out

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with two blogs actually on this incident. There revived blogs they were written a

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while back and brought him back for
this particular one. The Kentucky I'm sorry,

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the Kelly Kentucky UFO Goblins. That's
the title of it, Part one

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and part two, and Charles will
be creating audio blogs for that, And

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so if you're on the podcast feed, no matter where you get your podcast,

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you will get that. You won't
get that audio clip, it'll come

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through if you're just too darn lazy
to read the blog, But I do

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welcome you to go over and read
the blogs there. There's a lot of

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links to these blogs that go out
to you know, where he gets his

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sources, so he does a great
job. That's Charles Lear and check out

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those blogs. Also while you're there, there is the Patreon link that's under

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support the show. I appreciate every
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if you can't do that, I
do appreciate you listening anyway. And I

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also have a place over there for
people to post anonymously. They can post

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their UFO siting. So if you've
had a ufosing you don't want anyone to

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know your name or to be bothered
by anyone, you can use the anonymous

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post that I have linked on our
website podcast ufo dot com. And there's

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also a place for you to put
in pictures. I can't figure out how

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to put in videos yet, but
if you send me a video you wanted

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to post, I can figure that
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Also, you can go and check
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posted, because there's some doozies in
there, and there was one recently a

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very interesting one, and you can
again you can check that out on podcast

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ufo dot com. Now I do
approve each and every one of those posts

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because I just want to keep out
the so to speak, scammers and spammers.

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And tonight we will be taking calls
the last half hour, right,

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we do have a break at fifty
five minutes four minute break. I'll play

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a couple of clips during them for
the people listening live in the on YouTube

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that is, and in chat.
If you have a question for our guests

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in chat, I may miss very
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me to ask a question, and
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question, but I will look at
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sense, I will ask the guests. But please do put that in all

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caps so it actually catches my eye. And then I can also post it

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right right up on the screen.
Let me just see just like this,

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I can post it right up on
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ready to bring in our guests.
And Geraldine, welcome to the show.

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Thank you, thank you. So
you are you are down in the South,

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but you're not in Kelly, I
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or is it Kelly. It get
them confused that Kelly Kelly, and Kelly's

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outside of Hopkinsville. So why why
does it have this this hyphened name of

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two names like that, because Kelly
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in Christian County. It's part of
Christian County, just like you know most

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little places are that are in the
road. You know, it's not very

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big, it's just how it's Christian
County. So it's part Kelly Hopkinsville.

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Yeah, yeah, And so you
are the daughter of one of you know,

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actually you your siblings were also involved
in the time you were You were

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born after this happened, but you
heard the story so so many times,

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but I understand it wasn't something that
was easily talked about in your family.

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But before we go there and I
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would like for you to, especially
for the person that's never heard it.

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Can you go right through the story
and what happened that night? And that

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was back in nineteen fifty five,
August twenty first, something like that,

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right, yes, yes, okay, O go through it very quickly.

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No, no, no need to
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didn't know that. Well, Mike, it's okay, Well let's get into

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this then, okay. Of course, like you said, it was August

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the twenty first, nineteen fifty five. Well, that weekend what happened was

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it was on my grandmother's farm.
She owned a little farm. She was

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a widow. She had three small
children that were twelve, ten, and

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seven at the time this happened.
It was you know Lonnie Charlton Mary,

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also my uncle Jason and aunt I
aunt Eileen lived with her to help her

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with the small farm. That weekend
that this happened, my dad and his

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wife at the time, Vera,
were stationed in Evansville. They worked with

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a carnival. Dad had worked with
the carnival ever since he was fourteen years

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old, so he'd been there while
they decided they were stationed in Evansville,

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so they were going to come home
for the weekend, spend some time,

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see the family, eat some decent
food, just enjoy themselves for the weekend.

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And when they came, they asked
Billy Ray and June Taylor if they

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wanted to come along. They were
friends that had worked with them. Sure,

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why not, Let's get away from
this place. So they headed to

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Kelly, which is about two hours
from Evansville. And so they got there

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like on a Friday evening and stayed
the weekend. They visited everybody because my

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dad had older brothers that lived there
in Hopkinsville, and so it was a

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whole weekend affair, you know,
like hunting and enjoying the time away.

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Well, Sunday evening rolled around.
Now you've got to realize the evening that

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this happened. They were eleven people
in this small farmhouse and they were all

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in there, and my grandmother and
the kids had went to Sunday service.

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They had gotten home, and they
had eaten, and they were, you

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know, quieting down and playing cards
and just enjoying the last evening they had

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together. And Billy Ray wanted to
go out to the well to get some

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water. They didn't have running water
in the house. They did have electricity,

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but not running water. So he
goes out to the well. As

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he's out there, he hears something
up in the sky. Turns to look

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and there it is a oval shaped
object, silver and color. He described

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it as having the colors of the
rainbow flowing behind it. Scary him.

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He didn't know what it was.
We wouldn't know what it is. So

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he runs in the house, slams
the door and tells everybody, there's something

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out here. I don't know what
it is. You know, it's not

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anything we've ever seen before, you
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Well, the first thing my grandmother
thought, being my grandmother, he went

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out there to scare the girls,
you know, thanks for all young people

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in their twenties. Billie Ray's wife
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that was her first thought. And
so she tried to tell him, you

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know, maybe it was a shooting
star, and he's, no, no,

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that's not what it was. I
know what those look like. Maybe

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it was a met or shower.
We've been having those all month. No,

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I know what those look like.
You know, nothing they threw at

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him worked, and so he kept
on. So my dad finally told him

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so he would calm him down.
And he told me, and he said,

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well, let's go back out there. Let's just take another look.

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He showed me where you saw this. So they walked out to the well.

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He points towards the sky, tells
him again while he saw. My

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dad tries to reason with him again
with the same things that they were saying

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in the house. The shootings,
you know, star all that stuff.

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No, no, Lucky, which
my dad's nickname was Lucky. No,

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it was none of those things.
I know what those look like. And

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he told him. My dad told
him and said, well, listen,

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there's nothing out here. Now,
let's just go back in the house and

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finishing joy in the evening, we
got to go back to work. So

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as they're walking back towards the house, flowing the home and back where the

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woods are along the woodline, comes
this little three three and a half foot

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tall beam, huge head, big
glowing eyes, huge ears, arms down

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by their sides, almost touching the
ground. And it didn't seem to walk.

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It looked like it was floating over
the top of the ground. They

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didn't know what it was. Ran
in the house, slammed the door behind

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them. My dad said there is
something out here. Know what it is?

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We just saw it. The first
thing they thought was all right.

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Billy Ray un got Lucky out there
to join in on the fund to try

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to scare the girls, and he
kept telling them, now there's something out

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here. My grandmother told him to
listen, I've got to get these kids

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to bed, and you're scaring them. You need to just stop. Well

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he wouldn't, and she knew it
was really serious. When one grabbed the

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rifle, one grabbed the shotgun,
one went to the front door, and

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one went to the back. So
she's thinking, okay, something is going

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on here. So she goes to
the back door where Billy Ray is and

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she goes out there and sits down
side in and Billy Ray, what did

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you see? He looks at her
and he says, Miss Glennie, I

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don't know what it was, but
I hope it's something that you never have

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to see. So they sat there
in silence while longer they can hear everybody

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in the house, you know,
talking and carrying on. Then flowing behold

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along the corner of the house.
There it is as big as you please,

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a little being. My grandmother screams. She falls to the ground.

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They all come running and they,
you know, help her get up and

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ask her what's wrong, and she
said, there is something out here.

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I just saw it. There is
something out here. And as they're out

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there talking they hear a shot ring
out in the front of the house.

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It's Uncle jac He shoots one through
the window. Well, Billy Ray goes

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running by him, runs out the
front door, and there's this little stoop

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and as he's standing there looking you
can see this clawed hand come down and

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try to grab his hair. Well, my aunti Lane grab is yanks him

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back in the house. My dad
runs out the front door, turned hoards

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where the hand came from. There
it is setting there. He shoots it,

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he hits it, It rolls and
floats away. Somebody screams, there's

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one in the big tree, because
they had these huge maple trees in the

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front yard and they're off on the
limb there sets one, turns, shoots

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it, floats to the ground,
rolls, goes away. So they're coming

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up to the doors and windows.
They're shooting at them. They shoot one

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off the back fence. They're shooting
them from every direction. They don't seem

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to be killing them. They don't
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because they're rolling and getting up again, coming back. They don't know what

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to do. They're scared to death. Don't know what these things are.

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This was happening to us, we
wouldn't know either. So he tries to

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calm everybody down because the kids are
crying. Jim's about to lose it.

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Don't know what to do, can't
kill these things. Don't know what they're

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they are four in the first place, where did they come from? He

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tries to get them settled down.
So he gets them quiet, and they're

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sitting there in the house and low
and behold, they hear the one going

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across the tin roof. They can
hear it's nails going across the roof.

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Can you hold just one second there? What did they hear? They thought

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it was like nails from the claw
or something like that. Okay, because

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you mentioned that they floated or might
have floated, I was thinking, how

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could you hear them on the roof
if they were floating, right, But

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it sounds like the clause that's really
they I don't know if if they the

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little things knew what they were doing. You know, they were smart enough

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to realize if they got up there, maybe if they made a noise,

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it would get a reaction. I
don't know, none of us know why

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they were there or while they were
trying to accomplish, you know, and

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we just don't know. We never
will. But you know, this sends

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them all into hysterics. Jim's about
to lose it. The kids are crying

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again. My dad's trying to get
him settle back down and tell him,

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I'm no listen, we're gonna get
help. We're gonna get to Hopkinspill.

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We're gonna get help. And that
was in his mind. We've just got

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to get help and it'll be okay. So we gets everybody quiet again and

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then it gets quiet. There's nothing
coming up to the doors and windows.

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Finally, so he tells them he
is, let's go. So they hit

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the truck's head to Hopkinspill. Hopkins
Bill's about seven miles down the road.

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They get there. This is nineteen
fifty five, one little officer on duty.

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So they all run in. You've
got eleven people from the age of

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seven to fifty running in this little
police station in the middle of the night,

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all of them trying to explain this
one little man, what has happened

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to him? Of course, he's
trying to listen to everybody. He's not

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getting at all. He's trying to
understand. You're telling me you've got men

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attacking your hat else And my dad
is trying to tell him, no,

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no, no, you're not understanding
us. So he tells him, he

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says, just just calm down,
stay here. So he gets on the

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phone. He calls the chief Chief, Rustle Greenwell. The chief tells him

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keep them there. You call Fort
Campbell because Fort Campbell Army days was just

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down the road from Hopkinsville. You
call Fort Campbell, you call the paper,

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you call the readier, you call
anybody. You can't We're going out

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to Kelly, so everybody gets there. Here you got this little caravan the

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vehicles going out to its dic Kelly
in the middle of the night. It's

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pitch black, dark nineteen fifty five. You don't have security lights and all

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that kind of stuff going on,
and it's eerie. They pull up and

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the whole place just feels like something's
not right. You could tell as they

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were pulling up. The car that
had some of the police officers in it

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saw a glowing substance on that fence
where they had shot one. Well,

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it was on the ground by the
fence, and so they walked up to

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it first thing to see if they
could tell what it was. Well,

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as they walked up to it,
the glow went away. When they had

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walked away, they could see a
glow again. So they can never figure

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that one out, but they could
tell something happened. There were shotgun or

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rifle shells all over the ground outside, all over the inside of the house

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would work, and screens were shot
up. So if something happened to this

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family, that what was it.
There wasn't any bodies, no blood,

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no appendages of any kind laying around. And the chief, knowing that these

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are country boys, they could hit
anything, knew whoever they were shooting at

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they had to have been hitting.
So what was it and did they use?

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Was it a shotgun or or the
handguns? I mean a shotgun you

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have a really broad range. This
was a twelve and a twenty gate shotgun

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and a twenty two rifle. O
twenty two would be a tough one,

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but still those shotguns should have hit
something. Like I said, I think

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these are country boys. They learned
how to a hunt by the time they

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could walk just about you know,
they could shoot a rabbit running, a

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squirrel out of a tree, a
bird flund and they were actually shooting inside

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the house. Yes, that's could
you lose your hearing for doing that?

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Well? Because they were coming up
to the windows, yeah foor and you

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know, then being country boys,
their thought was, you know, shoot

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questions and asked quick and shooting now
and ask questions later because they didn't know

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what these were. Why were they
trying to get in the house in the

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first place. If they were trying
to get in the house, why were

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they trying to get in the house? What were they wanting? Now?

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Do you know if there was any
like aggression after that, like did they

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change the way they were acting and
reacting these beings or did they just continue,

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like almost like robots, just continue
trying to get possibly get in the

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house or whatever they were trying to
do. They just continued. I mean,

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my grandmother thought that maybe something was
wrong because when they were coming up

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to the windows and doors, they
were coming up with their hands raised like

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in a gesture of surrender maybe and
they didn't have anything on and they weren't

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trying to shoot back or trying to
get back at them any way. They

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were just seemed like they were curious, I guess, yeah, and welcome

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to earth, right, Yeah,
yeah, did in the wrong place,

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fellaws? Yeah, But that's what
she thought from the very beginning. Maybe

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they just needed help, maybe something
was wrong, but they didn't know that

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for sure. My dad wasn't gonna
take that chance here. It was his

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mother, his younger siblings, his
wife and in that house, and he

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wasn't going to take the chance of
not knowing what these things were going to

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do if they did come in the
house. So you know, that was

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his mindset, and that's what he
believed, and that's what he did.

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He protected what was his. And
but anyway, the chief told my grandmother,

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she said, Miss Glennie, there's
nothing here. We can't find anything.

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And what about the glowing substance on
the fence or wherever you said it

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was. Did that remain and did
anyone think to um, you know,

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get a sample of it or Now
see, that was another thing too,

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about this whole story. Nothing the
proper protocol wasn't done at all. They

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should have went in there and just
you know, wrote the whole thing off,

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took amples. The next morning there
was people from the army based there's

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combing the grounds. Really yes see
a lot of people don't realize that or

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know that. But yes, and
what did they do exactly did they?

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Were they there a long time?
I don't know how long they were there.

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I do know that they were there
that morning, and you know how

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they do it, like so far
apart just combing the grounds and what they

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did and there was stuff flying overhead. Wow, So you know they were

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there, but it just got swept
under the rug. You know how bad

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is it? Just they didn't want
anything to become of this, so they

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just got rid of it very quickly, as quickly as they could and just

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just let it go. They you
know, yeah, you know when the

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part where you hear the ridicule,
uh when someone's is all little green men,

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you know that's what they are.
That's what they were, huh or

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something like that? Um did is
this where that originated? And yes,

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parent, little green man, didn't
you and all that stuff? This is

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where it originated from. A reporter
started that little kick because m Kelly,

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you know the color Kelly green.
Well, it was easy, it sounded

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better. Kelly green than Kelly gray. So they were Kelly green, little

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Kelly Green man, and so that's
where you get the little green man from

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sure is. But did they but
they were green though, right, weren't?

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They weren't green? They were a
gray. Oh they were. See

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that's the confusion because as you always
hear of the Kelly Green men, you

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know, yes, oh so the
reporter, it's a reporter that kind of

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slanted that. Yes, how about
that? Huh? They were they were

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like they like a gun metal gray. So now, what time of night

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did this first happen? He's out
at the well and he sees the ship.

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But when he actually saw the being
the first the first one, was

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it dusk? Do you know?
Or you know, yeah, it was

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it was it was well, you
got I think it's August back then central

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time, around eight thirty ish's.
We're thinking it's probably about the time he

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saw this the first, you know, the ship going across the sky.

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Now, did did the family members
state that they actually got a really really

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clear shot? I mean they saw
these things really clearly? Oh yeah,

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they absolutely all, you know,
they were able to go and describe what

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they saw, and um, all
the drawings there are three drawings out there

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that we're drawn. And what they
did was they took each one in a

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room by themselves and asked about it, and they it was they're almost identical.

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I mean yeah, So they each
were put in a different room.

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And here's here's the one of the
drawings of it. Right here. You

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can see people on YouTube and it's
also for those of you that are listening

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to the audio part of this um
it's on. It's in the show,

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not in the show notes. It's
actually in the blogs that we have UM

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up that Charles Lear wrote. So
this is one of the drawings. And

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now I can see why they call
them goblins. I mean they get the

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big ears, hands hanging down.
Wow. And what about those eyes?

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Those eyes look really like very circular, like I don't know, not like

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bug eyes. But did they talk
about I mean, that's that's the when

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I've talked to people that, for
instance, like Travis Walton or whatever are

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the Ariel school, it's the eyes. They always, uh comment on the

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eyes. Were the eyes anything in
particular that they made any statement about,

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Well, well, the eyes I
think is actually what saved them because they

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had noticed that if they turned a
light on or shinned a light tort them

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in any way, they'd back off
and that more after it was all over

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with. Um, the sun was
their saving grace because when the sun came

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up, that's when they finally left. So they may have had you know,

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vision over in large pupils or something
that caused them to be very light

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sensitive, but you would think that, but they did notice that and they

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thank the sun. The next morning
was there saving grace because you know,

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after everybody left that night, they
were left to themselves and they came back.

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So um, they started the gunfight
again and this lasted until they liked

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and they didn't leave until the sun
came up. It's amazing. Wow.

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So they had one horrific night,
yes, uh, but they got through

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it. And boy, I wouldn't
live. I wouldn't stay in the house

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the next day. I'd be so
far gone out of there. It was

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long. We didn't stay there long
after that happened. Yeah, So what

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happened actually after after that event,
we well, after it all happened.

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Um, the next morning, my
dad sat the family down and told them

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said, listen, said, we
need to just forget this ever happened,

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because I heard them last night.
They were laughing at us. Well,

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and he says, no good can
come of the story. So he said,

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just try to forget it unless just
go on with their lives. And

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that's what they tried to do.
But of course that wasn't going to happen

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because you had the people invasion.
You had people coming, setting up tents

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and stuff out in the yard,
spending the night thinking that they would be

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back wanting to see them. Now
that happened right away, Oh yeah,

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the next night. I mean people
were coming the next day. They had

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no peace, oh wow, and
they just set up blatantly, set up

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in the yard. Well IoT,
all they did, they'd walk through the

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house and take souvenirs they were taking. You know, it was a big

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thing back then. You know,
hey, there was something that came from

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somewhere else, We want a piece
of it. And he had reporters coming

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from everywhere. So did this get
the wire? Yeah? So it went

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out, It went everywhere. Yeah
yeah, I mean people from everywhere were

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coming. And if you look up
newspaper clips and stuff, California, I

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mean everywhere people were wanting to find
out about these little beans. And now

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my grandmother was scared to death.
She didn't know what to do because my

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dad, Billy Ray, and the
girls had to go back to work,

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so she was going to be left
there with just the three three kids and

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Michael, jac and aunt Aline.
She didn't know what she was going to

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do, so she sold the farm. Within two weeks she moved into Hopkinsville

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to its Yeah, god, so
she like it must have been a distress

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sale. What they call a distress
sale. Will you just sell it for

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whatever to get out of there as
quick as possible. Well, she actually

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sold it to some more family and
they've been there with their mom and dad

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was scared to death. They didn't
want to move into that house they bought

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up, but they didn't want to
move in. Oh, it isn't And

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at the time, my mom and
her first husband and their kids lived in

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Kelly and she she said it was
scary. She she they scared because nobody

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knew what things were. And why
did they choose that house. It could

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have been any of them that they
chose. Yeah, they chose that one,

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you know. And the fear was
would they be back, of course,

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and because did they not get what
they wanted before, would they be

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back? Would they choose a different
house. You know that that fear was

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there and it lingered for a long
time, I bet, And you know,

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I mean there's you know why that
house or whatever it's it's probably just

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a random thing. Again, they
happened to choose one. They had some

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weapons, but well, anyhow it
would have chose back then, would have

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been the wrong house probably, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but so so

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I totally get that, and you
know, it makes me want you know,

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the first thing I think of,
as of course, if something like

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this happened to me, what would
I do? As I said, I

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would not spend another night there,
um, and I would just let the

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tourist tourists take over the place,
you know, the people looking and but

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anyway, yeah, that that that
whole thing, and to think of it,

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that they put up with as an
entire night, and and the little

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whatever they were never fought back,
but they just were persistent trying to observe

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or get in or whatever. And
I bet the place was shot up and

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beat up really bad. It was. It was an old weatherboard house anyway,

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And yeah, the shots through the
screens. Of course, the witness

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weren't damn they were pulled up so
they were shooting through the bottoms because that's

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where they were coming up to.
They were small and shorts, they were

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coming up to the bottoms. So
thankfully they were just shooting through the screens.

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But yeah, I mean they used
almost all their AMMO And that was

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another fear too. They were almost
out. What were they going to do

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if they had run out? Because
you gotten in then. But like I

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said, saving Grace was a son
that morning. Now was it just pure

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chaos with the eleven people? You
know? I mean were they like screaming

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and you know, trying to hiding
and what went on during that whole thing?

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Do you know? Well, yeah, my dad Well one thing my

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dad did is he made Verah take
the kids to back bedroom and kind of

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stuff them under the bed, try
to hide them because you know, he

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was afraid for the kids. Glides
and the women. I think all of

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them went back there in the bedroom
to kind of think of it and just

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stayed back there with the kids.
But you know, of course it was

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just chaos. I mean, Danann, we're trying to save everybody. Op

411
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:14.279
Baker was there too, that is
my Auntileen's brother. He was there that

412
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.400
night also and say that they all
had guns and they were trying to keep

413
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:23.880
these things off. And I don't
know, I don't I just don't know

414
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:28.720
what would have happened if my grandmother
had been there with just jac and Iileen

415
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.200
and the kids. I just wonder
what would have happened then, if that

416
00:33:31.319 --> 00:33:36.279
would have done the same thing,
or let him in. Because she was

417
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:40.000
a type of person that she let
him in the door. I think probably

418
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:45.039
tried to see you, you know, maybe go out there and see,

419
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:49.200
you know, hey, what's the
problem. Mar Gonna help you anyway,

420
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.240
because that's the kind of person she
was. Come in for tea. Yeah,

421
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:58.440
I don't know, but it was
scary. I mean, it would

422
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.599
be scary to us. Now.
Can you, oh absolutely imagine in your

423
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:06.039
home and minding your own business,
watching TV, and all of a sudden

424
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:07.840
you look over in the window and
there's something staring in at you that you

425
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:12.440
don't about what it is. Yeah, it sounds like a pure nightmare.

426
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.039
Um. Now, did anyone I
know this is probably kind of a strange

427
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:21.079
question, but did anyone feel like
any type of communication of any type?

428
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:23.760
Did anyone ever talk about that?
As far as I know, there was

429
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:28.519
no communication. Of course, there
was so much shooting and stuff going on.

430
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:30.800
If the portal things tried to open
their mouth and they've got it blown

431
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:37.000
off, I don't know. But
they never said they tried to talk to

432
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.599
them. There was never kind There
was never any kind of you know thing

433
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:49.159
going between them. It was just
you know, the country boy thing.

434
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:53.960
Shoot shoot, and here's a here's
a you know a question. Someone posted,

435
00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:59.599
Um, was her daughter was there? There's usually dogs on a farm

436
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.280
where they were they there? And
were they barking? The people are reacting

437
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:07.840
dogs? But that was one of
the things too. They had no hound

438
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:15.039
dog. And when when my dad
and Delia were coming back into the house

439
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.639
from the well, the old hound
dog did run by them, his tail

440
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.039
was stucked, you know, head
down, scared to death and ran under

441
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:28.079
the house and didn't come back out. Oh wow, So he just didn't

442
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:32.039
come back out. And you know, there were neighbors that heard. They

443
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:37.920
heard, they could hear the commotion, they could hear my family hollering,

444
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:44.159
and of course there was some custom
going on, believe me, you know,

445
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:49.079
of course they started hearing the gun
fire. You know. Even there

446
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:53.440
was one neighbor that lived in the
back of them, another farm back in

447
00:35:53.480 --> 00:36:00.559
the back, and he heard the
commotion starting, and he thought maybe some

448
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:02.920
of the animals had gotten out,
and so he was actually putting on his

449
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:07.000
boots and grabbing a flashlight. He
was going to head out there and try

450
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.119
to help and see if there was
something he could do. Then the gut

451
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:15.960
shots started and he thought, oh, whoa here. You know, if

452
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:20.360
I go out there, I get
hit by a bullet. So yeah,

453
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.440
he turned around went back in the
house. Now did anyone else I mean

454
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:27.960
this, you mentioned that they saw, you know, the colors of the

455
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:32.119
rainbow or I forget who you said
went out to the well, But did

456
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:37.880
anyone else see that craft at any
given time? Whatever? It was not

457
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:45.360
the people in the house. Now, during the day that day, people

458
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:51.920
had been seeing different kinds of lights
and things in the sky. That night

459
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:58.719
people were seeing things. In fact, this came out later on after it

460
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:04.440
all was over with. But I
have to describe how this goes. You've

461
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:08.480
got Kelly, and you've got Hopkins
Fille. Then you've got Fort Campbell Army

462
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:14.599
Base, and above Fort Campbell going
north there you've got Clarksville, Tennessee.

463
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:20.960
And there was lights being seen that
nobody knew what they were from Clarksville.

464
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:27.079
They started in Clarksville, went down
to Fort Campbell, went through Hopkinsville,

465
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:32.920
and went through Kelly. So people
were seeing lights that evening, you know,

466
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:39.679
but nobody you thought anything of it. And I think one reason being

467
00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:45.199
is you've got Fort Campbell ARMI base
there, and it seems like if you

468
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:49.880
live near an army base, the
first thing you think is the army base

469
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:54.320
is doing maneuvers are there, And
so I think when you live around that

470
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:58.559
type of environment, that's the first
thing people are thinking, Oh, well,

471
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.559
it's just Fort Campbell doing something.
And they didn't think anything more of

472
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:07.119
it until the word got out that
there was something attack in a family.

473
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:10.960
You know. At first these were
called goblins. And the reason they were

474
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:16.639
called goblins is because my grandmother thought
they were goblins something the devil may have

475
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:22.719
sent forth because she was religious.
And you hear that a lot. A

476
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:28.559
lot of people think, you know, it's it's it's something evil or the

477
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:35.360
devil. You hear that a lot
and encounters. Yeah, definitely heard that

478
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:39.440
many many times. Now that there's
someone made a point, what about wasn't

479
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:45.360
there an area on the ground that
were the well the possibly where the craft

480
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:51.159
was had landed or something. Um, it's not a burn Was it a

481
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.679
burn mark or something like that?
Yes, there was a place on the

482
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:58.199
ground, and it stayed there for
a very long time. And the reason

483
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:02.800
I know this when my parents got
together, they kept this story hid from

484
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.800
us. We didn't known anything about
this, and it was a hush hush

485
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:13.400
thing. Nobody ever said anything about
it. We found out by chance.

486
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:19.719
And that was one Sunday afternoon,
it was summertime. This nane and woman

487
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:24.480
came to our house knocking on the
door. I answered the door, and

488
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:28.280
they asked to talk to my daddy, and so I ran to the back

489
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:34.400
of the house. Mom and dad
were and got them, and they introduced

490
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.400
themselves to all the pleasant trees,
and he told them, he says,

491
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:42.480
mister Sudden, we want to talk
about the green men. I was like

492
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.760
eight or nine years old when this
happened. This was like sixty eight,

493
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:52.840
sixty nine, and so this really
got me interested because I'm like, green

494
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.480
man, what are they talking about? Because even as young as I was,

495
00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:00.239
I was already into sci fi thing
what little sci fither was at the

496
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:06.239
time, and horror. I love
horror, So you know, I thought,

497
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.719
boy, you know this is interesting. So they set us down a

498
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:13.960
little circle on the floor, me
and my younger siblings, and they all

499
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:19.440
sat down and my dad's started telling
this incredible story. Scared me. After

500
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.519
it was done with though, I'd
run around the house shutting all the shades

501
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:27.679
and curtains and windows. These little
things. You're to come back and they're

502
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:34.679
gonna be looking in at us.
And the following weekend, my dad took

503
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:37.760
us to Kelly. He wanted to
show us through it all happened. I

504
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:45.320
guess this was maybe a little closure
for him and it all. And the

505
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:49.199
house was still standing there. Of
course it was falling in, but the

506
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.440
family still loaned it. Part of
your family still loaned it, yes,

507
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:54.800
yeah, but they didn't live there
obviously. If the well, it had

508
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:59.880
a trailer sitting in front of See
yeah, as trailer was sitting in front

509
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:04.960
of the house, and well was
still there. In fact, it's still

510
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.159
there today. We went to the
back of the field. It took us

511
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:12.760
all the way in the back,
and I'll never forget it all. In

512
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:15.280
the whole there was this round place
on the ground where nothing was growing.

513
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:23.679
Wow, perfect circle on the ground, nothing there, And that just made

514
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:30.079
it that much more real to me
being a kid and hearing this crazy story

515
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:37.360
than seeing this. It just made
it you know, Oh wow, he

516
00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:42.800
really really did go through something that
weekend. They all did. Now,

517
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:50.239
what about the siblings that were actually
witnessed this, did they just I don't

518
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:53.159
know if they were step you know, sisters or brothers to you or whatever

519
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:58.800
they were, but did they did
they talk about it? Or they did

520
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:02.320
they listen to their dad that night
when he's there next morning when he said,

521
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:09.119
no one talk about this, and
they oh, that's they were my

522
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:16.920
dad's two brothers and little sister m
Yeah. Yeah, they're all still alive

523
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:22.320
today, but they don't talk about
it. The oldest one used to um,

524
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:27.519
but he's gotten to the point where
he just doesn't anymore. I think

525
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:32.719
it's because he forgets some of the
stuff. He's close to eighty now,

526
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.360
and the other two they've just simply
forgotten about it. They just don't want

527
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:42.679
to talk about it at all.
Uh. And I don't blame them.

528
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.000
It's scary. I don't blame him. You know, it's just too much.

529
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:49.960
It's just too much for them,
you know, it was a part

530
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:54.079
of their life, all their lives, and I don't blame them for not

531
00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:01.079
wanting to talk about it. I
have my good friend Lee Spiegels listening to

532
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:05.320
the show. He just sent me
an image and saying, this is why

533
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:07.239
so many people descended on the farm. And I'm just going to pop it

534
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:14.199
up on the screen there. I'm
sure you're familiar with it. Yeah,

535
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.719
you've probably seen this a million times, right, I've got it. Yeah.

536
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:23.559
Yeah, so that's a great clip. And and what when when everyone?

537
00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:29.800
Okay, wow, that's the next
day August twenty second, the day

538
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:37.800
following, and I see there was
a joke in there. I missed.

539
00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:43.440
Okay, all right, Lee,
I got it, all right. But

540
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:51.639
anyway, it's just it's just really
amazing how this happened, and there was

541
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:53.719
so much news about it. I
mean, I when I first started looking

542
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:57.840
into this topic, you know,
it's one of these stories and I kept

543
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.760
saying, that has got to be
the most crazy encounter I've ever heard.

544
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:06.880
I mean, I can't imagine another
encounter like that. I mean, it's

545
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:10.599
got to be the most bizarre one. Have you ever heard of an encounter

546
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.119
similar to this in any type of
way? Not like this one? Though.

547
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:20.159
Now I've had people come forward and
tell me that they've seen little beings

548
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:27.320
of some kind that resemble or they've
heard stories of little beings resembling those,

549
00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:32.440
but not a story quite like this
one, not involving eleven people. And

550
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.119
you know then that's another thing too. You've got eleven people that this happened

551
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:44.599
too, and daven makes it more
credible. You know, they stuck with

552
00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:50.079
it. They stuck to their guns
with this story. It never changed and

553
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:52.480
it's something put in the chat room
earlier. And I'm aware of this too,

554
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:58.639
that this is this is like the
third case actually the first case of

555
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:02.360
where people talk about beings floating not
quite touching the ground, you know,

556
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:07.480
I know of like the aerial school
incident, that is one of them.

557
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:13.880
Another one though, was Westall I
believe of someone posted, But there's several

558
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.519
cases or this is maybe is the
third including this, but of course this

559
00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:24.159
nineteen this is the first time I
think anyone actually talked about, you know,

560
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:30.360
something that was actually floating and not
touching the ground. Another bizarre thing.

561
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:37.599
Yeah, well things bizarre. But
let me let me let me just

562
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:40.599
ask you this because I don't believe
you mentioned it. Were there when they

563
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:46.280
shot these poor little guys. Was
there any reaction at all to getting hit

564
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:52.280
or being shot. The only thing
they would do is like fallback row float

565
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:55.039
away. That was the only thing
they would They would actually float away.

566
00:45:55.400 --> 00:45:59.320
Yeah, they were, they were
hitting though. I mean they could hear

567
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:00.679
them. They were. They were
pining when they hit them, like a

568
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.559
ten backet, so they knew they
were hitting one. They they were hitting

569
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:07.119
them anyway. I don't care.
You got three three and a half a

570
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:08.960
tall being there, you're going to
be a hitting them. You know a

571
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:15.280
lot of the skeptics, you know, they said it was monkeys or cats

572
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:16.599
or owls and all that kind of
thing. Well, you got to think

573
00:46:16.639 --> 00:46:21.079
these country boys would have been tearing
nose to pieces. There wouldn't be nothing

574
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:25.760
left of them but blood and guts
laying everywhere. It had been a living

575
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.119
being of any kind that could be
killed, and that's the whole thing.

576
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:37.639
These things couldnt be killed. They
were coming back. That is like of

577
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:43.440
all the nightmares. There's a question
that came in again. If you would

578
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:46.840
like to ask our guests a question
and didn't want to call in, just

579
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:52.519
put it in all caps and Stephen, thank you for doing that. So

580
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.559
is it true while the chief of
police spoke to the grandmother over time,

581
00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:06.960
stated as he convinced something happened because
of the grandmother's face of impression of fright.

582
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:13.920
Yes, he always believed my grandmother. Well, my grandmother was known

583
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.960
in the community. She was a
god fearing woman. She wouldn't have lilied

584
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.639
if he'd cut her arm off,
That's how she was. And of course

585
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.920
there was fear. There was fear
in all of them. I mean they

586
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:36.519
were all showing some kind of fear
because it was downright scary. And the

587
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.119
chief believed it. Also because he
had experienced his own thing a couple of

588
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:44.400
years before that. He had seen
something he couldn't explain, and so he

589
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:49.360
knew there was a possibility that something
was going on there. He knew something

590
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:53.800
happened. It was too much.
Did he ever get into details of what

591
00:47:53.840 --> 00:48:00.280
he saw. Well, he was
on the way home from his sisters,

592
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.840
and she lived on the lake.
I don't know. It was like Barkley

593
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.880
or somewhere down that way, Kentucky
Lake, Well, I think it was

594
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:12.480
Kentucky Lake. Anyway, he was
on his way home from there and traffic

595
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.039
had stopped in the road. I
mean there was like I think it was

596
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:20.039
like fifty or more, fifty seventy
five or more vehicles just stopped in the

597
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.480
road. Of course, everybody was
out looking at something, so of course

598
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.679
he gets out too, because it
can't go anywhere anyway. There in the

599
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:32.760
sky, it's this huge flying object
of some sort, just setting there in

600
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:40.280
the sky and not moving. Nobody
could explain what it is. It's some

601
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:45.000
kind of craft and it just sets
there. And I forget how long it's

602
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:50.719
set there. It was several minutes
if they all set there just watching it

603
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:57.599
do nothing, and it finally left, So you know, they didn't know

604
00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:00.280
what it was. Nobody could explain
what it was. And I don't think

605
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:06.800
anybody ever did explain what that was
that night, so we didn't see.

606
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:10.360
That made him a believer from the
very get go. That's why he told

607
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:15.599
the little police officer at station,
don't get everybody together, we're going to

608
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:22.239
Kelly, because he knew that there
had to be something happening to this family.

609
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.960
Don't take eleven people, especially young
children, in the middle of the

610
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:32.239
night to the police station and telling
an incredible story that something's happening to them

611
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:37.960
on the farm. You just don't
do that. Not that day in time,

612
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.840
Mike, Dad, we got some
crazies going on right now. But

613
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.159
you know, back in fifty five, he didn't do that. You did.

614
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:52.599
My dad would not have had himself
ridiculed like that and make fun up

615
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:58.360
like that for no reason. Something
happened. They were visited by something,

616
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:01.880
and we'll do that, Green will
do something had been going on. He

617
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:09.119
believed my grandmother wholeheartedly that they were
visited by something. Yeah, you know

618
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:15.880
what um did? Who researched this
that you know of? Do do you

619
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:23.559
know of any like single person that
actually like interviewed and researched this Isabel happened?

620
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:32.000
Isabel Davis did. She went there
and she did it incredible research on

621
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:37.320
this whole thing, you know,
talking to my grandmother and everything had happened,

622
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.280
writing down, you know, making
small maps and stuff where it all

623
00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:45.880
happened, even you know, making
drawings at the house inside now you know,

624
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.960
all the surroundings and everything with it, and talking to all the people

625
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:54.559
she needed to talk to about this. She did incredible research on it.

626
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:04.000
Wow, and a book was her
a book written. Isabelle Davis has did

627
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:08.199
one. Yes, I forget what
it's called. I've got it on a

628
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:14.760
DVD. Yeah, I forget what
it's called, but I've got on DVD.

629
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:19.840
Now, what's it like for you? We have four minutes we're going

630
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.679
to be going into the break,
But what's it like for you as a

631
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:28.719
family member? And I got to
also say what was it like also for

632
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:31.440
other family members along the way?
You know this is many years ago,

633
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:37.039
uh you know, sixty five years
ago or whatever it is. Um,

634
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:44.119
yeah, and so along the way, and we just passed the anniversary.

635
00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:49.960
We didn't know what's the day to
day twenty fifth. Yeah, have like

636
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:54.360
different press agencies like try to revive
the story and get in touch with your

637
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:59.039
family. Over the years, Oh
yeah, yeah, my dad would get

638
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:01.159
contacted all the time tim about it. Of course he would just shut him

639
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:04.400
off. He didn't want anything to
do that. He didn't want to bring

640
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:09.239
back up. Yeah. I think
it was a fear that stayed with him

641
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:15.119
all the time. I don't think
it ever left him. Before he passed,

642
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:20.199
there was this group from Germany trying
to get in to talk about it,

643
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:23.599
and he just he just wouldn't do
it. It was just too scary

644
00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:28.920
for him. You know. I've
always said he was a little man,

645
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:31.760
but he would fight a bear for
what he linked in. But I tell

646
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:37.559
you what, this kicked his bet. It terrified him. Yeah yeah,

647
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.159
how about that. By the way, did the dog ever come out from

648
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:49.719
under the house eventually? Had eight? Yeah, I probably would stayed under

649
00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:52.880
there a long time. But it's
really strange because, well, one other

650
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:57.960
thing, you know, you mentioned
the brushing of the claw whatever it is

651
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:02.440
on the roof. Was there any
other actions like that from these little guys

652
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:06.000
that, you know, hey,
look at me type of thing. You

653
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.800
know, they're obviously looking in through
the windows, which is bizarre. I

654
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:15.679
think the landing in the windows and
trying to seemingly get through the doors was

655
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:22.360
enough. But the scraping on the
tin roof was plenty for all lover day.

656
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:27.239
And what about wasn't one up in
a tree or something? Oh?

657
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.119
Yeah, they were getting up in
the trees, you know, it was

658
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.400
like, come look at me.
I don't know why they were getting up

659
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:36.920
in the trees. I don't know
if they were trying to jump from the

660
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:39.599
trees to the house. Maybe they
were trying to I don't know, but

661
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:45.719
they were getting shot out of the
trees I know that. And how about

662
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:51.000
how many were there of these things
that they did they count like so many

663
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:53.480
of them? Well, my dad
said that he always thought it was three

664
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:57.599
or four. He thought it was
four. And what they were doing was

665
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.760
once they got shot, they were
getting up in coming back. You know.

666
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:02.679
I know a lot of times will
read maybe like eleven or twelve,

667
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:06.599
but he said no, he didn't
think it was that many at all.

668
00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:10.800
He always thought it was three or
four that was doing all chaos. Wow,

669
00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:15.119
amazing. Well it's time for us
to head into the break. This

670
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:21.760
is Martin Willison. My guest tonight
is Geraldine Stiff, and we're going to

671
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.920
be right back after these messages.
If you're on YouTube, you are going

672
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:30.159
to you're going to see a clip. I'll play that now. So hanging

673
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:35.480
there everyone, we'll be right back
right after these messages. All right,

674
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:39.280
welcome back. This is Martin Willison. My guest is Geraldine Stiff, and

675
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:44.639
we were talking about her families.
Wow, what can I say? What

676
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:50.239
type of an encounter? Crazy encounter
back in nineteen fifty five? So all

677
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:52.760
right, so this happens you're I
don't know, you said, somewhere around

678
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:58.400
eight years old, and these people
knock on the door, You answer the

679
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:01.199
door, and then your father tells
you and then go out to the farm.

680
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:07.760
Did this was this from that time
forward? You know, did you

681
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:14.719
talk at least to your siblings about
this encounter and was it like alive in

682
00:55:14.719 --> 00:55:21.320
the family or was it hush hush
around did Olie was hush hush? I

683
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:25.000
was the oldest of the second bunch. I'd say the same because both my

684
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:30.840
parents were married before they got married, so my mom I had seven kids

685
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:36.760
by her first husband, so I
had seven older half siblings. They never

686
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.119
spoke of it. You know,
they lived in Kelly when this happened,

687
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:45.519
but they did not talk of it. My dad didn't have any more kids.

688
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.119
We were all he had, and
I was the oldest, and so

689
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.880
the younger ones, you know,
they were younger, and you just didn't

690
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:58.199
talk about this, and it just
wasn't talked about. I mean you brought

691
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:02.679
it up. That's just like after
this couple came and talked to him,

692
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:07.639
there was this book written and he
got a copy of it, and the

693
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:15.199
story was in this book, and
he like hit that book away, you

694
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:19.239
know, he didn't like even looking
at it or bringing it out. And

695
00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:24.440
you know, that's just how it
was. It was just scary for him.

696
00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:31.679
He went they were frightening event,
and he just did not a part

697
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:36.760
of it anymore. Yeah, I
can totally get that. I understand that

698
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:42.280
David wanted to know. Did they
have flashlights and did the flashlights scare the

699
00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:46.320
beings? If they had them?
Yes, Well it seemed to shop,

700
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:50.679
you know, give them away for
a while, because, like I said,

701
00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:57.000
if they shined it in their eyes, they'd back off. So I

702
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:00.079
don't think they were really afraid of
the lights, or they wouldn't have kept

703
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:06.079
coming back. Yeah, but it
was enough that if they shine it in

704
00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.400
their eyes it affected them in some
way. It must have hurt I guess,

705
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:13.920
Yeah, I can't. You know, if you really think about this

706
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:19.039
and you try to empathize with what's
going on, I can't imagine anything being

707
00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:24.039
more scary than being in your home
and having something outside you're trying to protect

708
00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:31.239
yourself from. I can't imagine anything
more scary than that. Yeah. Yeah,

709
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:35.880
it was your haven, it's your
safe place. Yeah. No,

710
00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:40.360
and back then they left the windows
and doors open because it was their safe

711
00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:44.320
place. Back then, things just
didn't happen. Everybody did that. You

712
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:52.079
didn't have air conditioning, and so
yeah, they didn't think about something coming

713
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:55.199
up and trying to get in the
house or trying to bother them or whatever

714
00:57:55.239 --> 00:58:00.840
they were trying to do. You
know, scared. Now there's a question,

715
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.360
but I'm pretty sure you kind of
answered that. Did anyone actually have

716
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.239
physical contact? No one did,
did they? No? No. The

717
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:12.800
closest thing that happened was the hand
coming down trying to grab Billy Ray's hair.

718
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.800
That was the closest thing of contract. That's bizarre. It reached down

719
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:22.199
to try to grab his hair.
Wow. And did someone actually shoot at

720
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:25.400
that time? Yeah, my day. It ran out, shot it off,

721
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:34.039
through, shot at it floated away. Wow. Wow. Another question

722
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:36.760
that came up again. We're going
to open the phone lines here another half

723
00:58:36.760 --> 00:58:40.760
hour or so from Andy, He
usually calls in. Did anyone check the

724
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:49.599
area for radiation or electromagnetic electromagnetic anomalies? But no one did check anything?

725
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:52.880
Right, No, no one checked
anything. But what about the army.

726
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:54.880
You said the army was there the
next day. Did they bring any equipment

727
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:59.920
with him. I haven't heard of
any equipment. The only thing I know

728
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:08.480
they did was searched the area.
I found out later that they found something.

729
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:13.679
I guess they thought it was an
interest and covered it up real quickly

730
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:15.519
and ran into a truck, put
it in the back and a truck took

731
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:22.639
off. And that's the only thing
I've heard as far as that's concerned with

732
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.519
them doing that. After the search
was over that morning, that was it.

733
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:30.360
They just didn't do anymore. They
just plopped it away, tried to

734
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:35.159
get rid of the whole thing.
And that's why they were you know,

735
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:37.880
that's what they're good at. It's
just getting rid of And it was easy

736
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:42.280
to hear rid of. It was
easy to hear it of. What how

737
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:47.360
they did it was they choked it
up to uneducated and I hate this,

738
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:53.679
hate this, but uneducated hillbillies.
And that's how we were able to put

739
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:58.039
it to rest and throw it away. Well that's all, that's you know

740
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:01.599
what the ridicule factor is belive and
you know, attack, attack the people

741
01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:07.039
um, you know, to debunk
um. And unfortunately that's you know,

742
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:14.280
that's that's sad because you know,
everybody sees you know, if you look

743
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:20.280
at the range of who sees UFOs
and who who has uh you know,

744
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:23.880
and encounters, it's a range of
all people. It's not just one certain

745
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:28.840
type of person or the way you
know, someone may live or whatever.

746
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:32.559
And I'm sure they probably used the
carnival thing as part of the ridicule too,

747
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:36.760
which is another silly Oh, I'm
sure they did. And yeah,

748
01:00:36.840 --> 01:00:39.280
something is sure. My dad may
have joined a carnival at fourteen, But

749
01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:45.840
this nan could do anything. He
could do anything. Yeah, serious,

750
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:50.599
He was not stupid by no means, right, you know. And that

751
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:53.320
was part of the hurt too,
you know, you get called stuff like

752
01:00:53.400 --> 01:00:59.519
that, it hurts, you know, And it was. It was a

753
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:05.079
whole on two accounts, the whole
invasion thing and the whole ridicule thing,

754
01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:07.880
you know, And I do want
to talk about that a little bit more.

755
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:14.519
There's another question, was there any
older at all of did anyone?

756
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:17.199
I know, it's it's one of
the questions that that's asks a lot when

757
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:22.280
someone has an encounter, if someone's
interviewing them, if there's you know,

758
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:30.079
all the senses of something, and
did anyone mention any type of Nobody ever

759
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:32.920
mentioned any kind of odor. The
only thing I ever heard was that it

760
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:38.960
just felt eerie. The area just
felt strange, you know. I wished

761
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:44.159
to this day, see my dad
died in ninety five, and I wish

762
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:46.320
to say if i'd known what I
know now that I had sat down and

763
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:50.559
really picked his brain about this whole
thing. But at the time in ninety

764
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:52.840
five, I was scared to death
of this story. I didn't want to

765
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:59.639
know part of it either, And
I wish I had of because he would

766
01:01:59.639 --> 01:02:02.480
have been pool of good information,
you know, if you cook at it,

767
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:05.599
you know, possibly forward the end
of his life. He may have

768
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:08.840
been able to get, you know, a lot out of him. Who

769
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:15.320
knows exactly, And I wish I
had a Yeah, yeah, well it's

770
01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:22.440
it's still a remarkable story. And
now what about let's go into the the

771
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:28.280
I understand they said it was monkeys
from a circus or of course monkeys don't

772
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:32.960
take to getting shot too well.
But what were some of the stories that

773
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:38.320
you heard when people are trying to
explain away this is nothing besides unfortunately the

774
01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:43.360
hillbilly take on it. Yeah,
the whole owl thing. The owls was

775
01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:46.280
the top one, I guess,
because yeah, there's an owl that gets

776
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:52.320
about three foot tall. But same
as the monkey, it would have gotten

777
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:58.119
hit and splattered everywhere with cats.
They said that somebody, some neighbors or

778
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:07.400
somebody's throwing cats at the house.
There's actually are. There's a connection of

779
01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:14.559
some people make a connection of not
not just one but Mike Clellan I think

780
01:03:14.639 --> 01:03:17.199
his name is. But there are
people that make a connection between this whole

781
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:22.920
UFO thing and owls. Ironically.
Yeah, yeah, yeah they do.

782
01:03:23.239 --> 01:03:28.199
But still you've got a twenty and
a twelve greate shotgun, a twenty two

783
01:03:28.320 --> 01:03:32.559
rifles. It's shooting these things and
there's kindly blood somewhere. Owls are not

784
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:37.400
going to taunt anyone either. They're
not going to exactly, they're not going

785
01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:38.800
to be three of them. They
always hunt alone, you know, I

786
01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:42.880
mean that that type of thing.
Of course, there is a whole thing

787
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:47.000
that there was somebody that's playing a
prank on them, and of course the

788
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:52.559
same thing here. They were shooting
everywhere. Somebody out in those woods probably

789
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:54.679
would have gotten hit. That's why
the neighbor went back in the house.

790
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:59.480
I'm surprised. The one thing that
surprised me. I know it's a different

791
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:03.320
time and h but if I heard
a bunch of gunshots in a neighbor's house,

792
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:08.760
I call the police immediately. But
no one did that. Obviously they

793
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:12.559
didn't. I don't know if it's
because well, they have not had a

794
01:04:12.559 --> 01:04:15.199
way to do it, you know, you think about it. The only

795
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:17.960
thing my family had in the house
was a radio. They didn't have any

796
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:23.599
kind of other communication that was it
a radio. They didn't have a TV

797
01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:27.360
yet or any of that. You
know, these were this was a poor

798
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:30.960
Barren family. They didn't have none
of that stuff. So you know,

799
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:33.840
the others around them they not have
had it either. You know, how

800
01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:38.960
about that. I never even never
even crossed my mind that there was no

801
01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:45.039
way to call the police. How
traumatized were the children after the incident,

802
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:53.719
Stephen asked that question. They were
very traumatized day. Yet I'm sure they

803
01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:57.760
went through a lot as children.
You know, they don't talk about it

804
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:00.079
today, and I'm sure part of
that is because I'm sure that when they

805
01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:04.239
went to school they probably got you
know, how cruel kids can be.

806
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:10.639
Oh yeah, And as far as
you know, was the story all around

807
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:14.679
like in school, I'm sure it
was. It had to think back in.

808
01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:17.800
I mean, it was the thing. I mean that was big news.

809
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:21.679
This was something that put Hopkins Bill
Kelly on the map at the time,

810
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:26.440
and they were going into school just
a couple of days after that,

811
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:30.320
probably yeah, yeah, I mean
this is August, so they had started

812
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:34.480
school already, and yeah, I'm
sure that there was a lot of that.

813
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:44.079
Yeah, I hate to think what
they went through really, especially the

814
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:47.920
kids and what you know, you
mentioned the cat thing, the owl thing.

815
01:05:48.880 --> 01:05:54.559
To this day, are people still
trying to debunk this. I haven't

816
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:59.440
looked personally, but um, what
do you see out there? Like say,

817
01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:03.679
I, I don't social media or
whatever about this case. I think

818
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:10.840
people have given up. I haven't
seen anything. You know. Of course

819
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:14.599
you got your random Well it wasn't
howl or it was a lucky thing,

820
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:16.800
but you know, they can't through
that. They can't you know, three

821
01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:21.679
it was any of those things.
So I think people kind of have given

822
01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:29.239
up. It's taken all the life
of itself actually, and it's really getting

823
01:06:29.239 --> 01:06:31.159
out there now. You know.
We don't know if you know that we

824
01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:35.519
have a festival every year now because
of this. Oh okay, has it

825
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:41.559
right on the date? No,
we can't. They it's because it changes

826
01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:44.760
every year. Yeah, it's like
a weekend thing or something. It's a

827
01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:47.960
weekend thing. It's a third weekend
of August every year. Of course,

828
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:51.280
we couldn't have it this year and
just would have been our tenth anniversary.

829
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:57.280
We were actually doing a really big
festival this year for the tenth year.

830
01:06:57.360 --> 01:07:01.679
But I guess what, yeah,
kind of change that Yeah, Um,

831
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.280
this question. We already answered this
question, Stephen. Um, there is

832
01:07:05.400 --> 01:07:10.599
there is a couple of witnesses left, but they they don't they don't want

833
01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:13.679
to talk about it. Is that? Is that what you said earlier?

834
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:19.320
Three? Actually yeah, three youngest
kids are all still alive. Yeah,

835
01:07:19.360 --> 01:07:24.679
but they don't want to. This
is something they're not interested in now.

836
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:28.639
Like I said, the older one, my uncle Lonnie, he's the oldest,

837
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:32.280
and he used to talk about it
some, especially when the festival first

838
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:41.159
started. Um, but now he
just doesn't. He's had some physical problems

839
01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:44.599
and like I said, he's getting
close to eighty, and I think he

840
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:47.800
just doesn't feel he can do it
justice probably anymore, because I think he,

841
01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:50.079
you know, like all of us, we get older, we get

842
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:56.599
a little forgetful about things, and
I think he just he's seeing me take

843
01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:59.760
it over and do with it.
So I think he's happy with that and

844
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:04.239
and he's just letting it be.
Did he was? He interviewed a lot

845
01:08:04.840 --> 01:08:11.840
when he was talking about it.
He was for a while there, especially

846
01:08:12.199 --> 01:08:19.159
around two thousand and five when it
was the fiftieth anniversary of the incident.

847
01:08:20.279 --> 01:08:26.399
He talked a few times with different
documentary people and stuff like that, did

848
01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:31.439
interviews, but it was back then, and yeah, now he just doesn't

849
01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:35.800
do much with it now, you
know, getting back to where we're talking

850
01:08:35.800 --> 01:08:42.039
about earlier, the the kind of
the debunking of it. Has anyone ever

851
01:08:42.199 --> 01:08:45.560
like try to make a claim this
never happened at all. No, have

852
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:47.119
you ever heard anything like that?
Now, what about this is a good

853
01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:50.720
point here. Was there a police
report? Yes, there is a police

854
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:54.319
report. I don't know where it
is. I love getting my hands on

855
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:59.279
it, but yeah, there was
a police report, Yes, definitely.

856
01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:01.880
I mean they went out there that
night, so surely they didn't make a

857
01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:06.640
report. But yeah, yeah,
this is interesting. And remember in chat,

858
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:12.680
please put your questions in caps so
I catch them. And let's see

859
01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:17.439
this one right here. Do you
know if any family members regret reaching out

860
01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:23.199
to the beings had taken a different
approach than they did, Oh, no,

861
01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:27.279
they don't regret it at all.
I'd be scared to death. I

862
01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:30.359
mean, you know, for a
while there and my grandmother, you know,

863
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.520
I thought something was wrong, But
I think after a while to realize

864
01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:36.479
that, you know, when they
kept coming and kept coming, especially after

865
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:43.600
that second time, because when they
left go to Hopkinsville and they came back,

866
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:47.359
they had a little free time in
there where they didn't bother on and

867
01:09:48.840 --> 01:09:51.800
my grandmother was laying there in bed
with my dad beside her, and the

868
01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:58.520
rocketshire shotgun across this lap and they
came back that second round, and I

869
01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:04.399
think that second round really did her
in. Um wow, yeah, the

870
01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:09.159
time, yeah, the gap and
then they come back. That must have

871
01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:14.119
seen like a total total nightmare.
And it had it lasted the rest of

872
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:16.560
the night till the sun came up, so they had a long period of

873
01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:21.399
time where they were fitting them off
again. I can't imagine going from the

874
01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:26.640
house to the truck. If you
watch horror movies, that's when something always

875
01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:31.319
happens. Here to death, I
mean. And they watched behind them,

876
01:10:31.319 --> 01:10:35.079
the ones that were in the back, they watched behind on the whole way

877
01:10:35.119 --> 01:10:39.880
because they were afraid that they were
gonna come with them, I'm sure.

878
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:44.079
Yeah. And what about looking around? Did they try to look around to

879
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:46.960
see if they could see anything like
a craft or the beings as they were

880
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:50.680
driving out of the yard. No, they were just ready to get away

881
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:56.079
from there. Jim didn't want to
get back. I'm surprised they did come

882
01:10:56.119 --> 01:10:59.199
back. I really am. I
mean I would have come back with a

883
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:02.920
force of police officers or something.
Yeah, right back. You know,

884
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:05.760
they left and there was nothing that
they could do. You know, there

885
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:11.359
wasn't nothing there to prove, no
bodies or anything to prove they shot them.

886
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:15.760
So God, what would you do
today? I mean, that's that's

887
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:19.199
the question. I mean, how
would the reaction if this happened today be?

888
01:11:19.960 --> 01:11:23.600
You know, first of all,
we have cell phones that could take

889
01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:28.039
pictures, We have phones we can
call the police. It'd be a total,

890
01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:30.840
total different situation. Um. Let's
see, we have this question here

891
01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:36.319
on the drawings. Um, do
you know have any I mean, there's

892
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:41.760
no way of telling because they're all, you know, different drawings and you

893
01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:46.000
can't compare them to the real whatever
it was that they saw. But um,

894
01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:51.840
do they do they agree among themselves
which drawing was closest to the I

895
01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:57.920
don't know that. I never even
thought about that. They're all so similar,

896
01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:01.960
you know, Yeah they are.
They said was Billy Rays was was

897
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.319
the one with the abs? If
you notice one of the drawings one come

898
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:11.199
ahead, Abs. Oh yeah,
they said, you know, Billy right

899
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:15.239
kind of they thank you, kind
of think that I at all that.

900
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:21.560
Yeah, I'll try to pull up
some of those others. Richard has this

901
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:29.439
question has the family Has family members
experienced any other sightings so strange experiences that

902
01:12:29.560 --> 01:12:32.359
you know about, Not that I
know, But even if they did,

903
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:36.840
they probably wouldn't talk about it.
I'll be honest with you. Great too.

904
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:43.399
Yeah, now what about you mentioned
go ahead? I'm sorry, it'd

905
01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:46.640
be a nightmare again for Also,
I don't think if they had, they

906
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:51.760
would speak a word. What about
so you wouldn't even know, Like the

907
01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:57.600
new family members that bought the farm, um, if anything ever happened again

908
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:03.720
there, you know now they never
have came forward with anything going on there.

909
01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:09.600
Now the farm is chopped up.
You know, it was close to

910
01:13:09.680 --> 01:13:15.319
thirty acres and it's like five different
people on it. Now you know,

911
01:13:15.439 --> 01:13:18.439
it's chopped up into different acres.
In fact, my sister and her husband

912
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:21.920
just bought five acres of it,
So five acres of it's back in the

913
01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:30.880
family for sure. Yeah, but
you know, different people live on splotches

914
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:35.600
of it now. Now I don't
know we talked about this earlier. Esoteric

915
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:42.199
Gold is asking some questions that we've
already discussed. I do believe, but

916
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:46.479
I don't know if this wasn't In
particular, were there any other animals on

917
01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:51.760
the farm besides the dogs, cats, and a few farm animals? Yeah,

918
01:13:51.800 --> 01:13:56.880
did the farm animals make noises that
you're aware of or react? I

919
01:13:56.880 --> 01:14:02.720
don't know of they would have noticed
it. They were so afraid of these

920
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:05.840
things trying to get into the house. I don't think they would have noticed

921
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:09.359
anything go along with any of the
animals. To be honest with you,

922
01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:14.479
A lot of it starts a lot
of encounters. They hear the animals first,

923
01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:18.439
and then you know the encounter.
No but said anything. The only

924
01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:23.720
thing that was ever spoke of was
that hound dog running by with his tail

925
01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:29.199
tucked and ears down. He was
scared, you know, under the house

926
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:32.600
and never coming back out. Yes, that was the only thing that was

927
01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:38.399
ever said about any of the animals. Yeah, yeah, Well this is

928
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:40.840
exacting. I think I'm going to
open up the line. Since we're getting

929
01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:45.439
a lot of questions, I think
let me just find out if Bill is

930
01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:53.000
as ready for that. But as
you go through life, now, are

931
01:14:53.119 --> 01:14:57.680
people contacting you. I know,
you're kind of a central figure in the

932
01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:01.560
festival and because of that or people
reach out to you. I mean I

933
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:05.760
think I may have reached out to
you because of the finding you that way.

934
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:10.439
Yeah. Actually, no, you
were on another podcast, that's what

935
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:18.319
it was. Yeah, yes,
yeah, faithful, Like all day today,

936
01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:23.000
I've been talking to different people.
I mean, there's somebody how about

937
01:15:23.039 --> 01:15:28.399
that, Yeah, there's been there's
somebody want to do a documentary. Another

938
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:35.279
podcast is in the air. I'm
scheduled out with podcasts through nuts ahead,

939
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:40.279
right wow. Yeah, yeah,
Well, I'm honored that you were able

940
01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:43.319
to do tonight. Yeah. You
know, I think the part of it

941
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:45.399
is because you know, that's what
people are doing now. I mean,

942
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:49.000
this has become a great thing for
you guys, because people are sitting home

943
01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:54.239
and listening to podcasts and watching stuff
like this. Yes, I have requests

944
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:57.159
all the time, people asking me
to do more than one podcast a week.

945
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:01.119
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
It's a captured audience. And that's

946
01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:05.800
why I've been pushing up a friend
of mine that has a really good film

947
01:16:05.880 --> 01:16:11.479
that a lot of people in this
field are waiting to watch, and I

948
01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:14.560
keep begging them on this is a
time, you know, get it out,

949
01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:17.319
get it out. Yeah, and
I getting hold of me today.

950
01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:23.039
You want to do another documentary?
It's been years since another a good documentary

951
01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:27.359
has been done on this, So
you know, if anybody they could do

952
01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:30.319
it, really good documentary on the
story would be a great thing, right

953
01:16:30.319 --> 01:16:34.600
now. Sure. I mean,
like I said, it's been years,

954
01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:41.600
wow, fifteen years now, did
like Unsolved Mysteries or anything like that ever

955
01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:46.359
do something on this? Yeah,
there's there. I've done several TV shows

956
01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:54.279
actually, and there's another one coming
out here soon in the fall for about

957
01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:58.119
it. But the Travel Channel has
got a new one coming out. Travel

958
01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:00.960
Channel halls got something coming out.
So you know, I can't tell you

959
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.840
the name or anything. You'll find
out here saying we did one for them

960
01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:09.159
here back a few months ago.
We got it filmed and so it's getting

961
01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:15.960
ready. And I've done mysteries at
the Museum and monsters and mysteries, and

962
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:17.760
of course they pop up on other
stuff too, you know, they trade

963
01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:25.239
them around and uh. But yeah, people love the story, they love

964
01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:29.880
hearing about it, and it's fascinating, you know, think about it.

965
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:32.479
Yeah, like I said, there's
no there's none other that I know of

966
01:17:33.039 --> 01:17:36.960
we have a caller. We have
Joe Um. He is calling from Michigan.

967
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:42.319
Joe, Welcome to the show,
he Martin. How you doing.

968
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:49.640
Yeah. I wanted to mention that
Geraldine first had spoke that when they first

969
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:54.560
saw the craft, they had mentioned
the like sparklers coming out of the back

970
01:17:54.600 --> 01:18:01.399
of it or rainbow. That was
that was something in the twenty thirteen Southern

971
01:18:01.560 --> 01:18:09.920
Ontario close encounter, the very close
encounter in Southern Ontario that was heavily researched

972
01:18:09.920 --> 01:18:14.119
by MUFON and was their twenty sixteen
incident of the year, even though it

973
01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:16.680
happened in twenty thirteen. And when
she said that, and just I could

974
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:21.000
tell her it's those little things like
that are very important because the minute she

975
01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:26.359
said that, I mentioned about the
sparkers coming out of the back of the

976
01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:29.800
craft. It's really part of the
propulsion system. I believe, a plasma

977
01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:35.399
type of thing. And was it
was heavily talked about by MUFON and researched.

978
01:18:35.960 --> 01:18:41.560
Uh And when she mentioned that,
that one little thing that she mentioned

979
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:45.159
told me that in all probability,
as far as I'm concerned, this was

980
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:49.520
a real event. That that one
that one point of it told me that

981
01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:55.159
was most likely a real event.
Yeah, it seems like there's mentioning that

982
01:18:55.560 --> 01:19:00.760
another piece to the puzzle. Obviously, any any question or you just want

983
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:03.640
to make that statement. No,
I just I just wanted to tell her

984
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:10.960
that it's surprising that that that that
one thing she mentioned that she might have

985
01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:16.199
thought was maybe inconsequential to me and
from my research told me that Wow,

986
01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:20.800
this that to me tells me it
was real. Yeah, it was a

987
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:26.279
real event. All right, Joe, thank you of the being Okay,

988
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:29.960
thank you, thank you. I
didn't mean to cut you off. Appreciate

989
01:19:30.039 --> 01:19:33.640
it. And uh, next we
have we have a caller Michael calling from

990
01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:39.840
Cincinnati. Welcome to the show.
Hi there, Hi, how are you

991
01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:45.840
the little of the show. But
I apologize I she may have already answered

992
01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:51.720
the sellow Geraldine and Martin Michael.
There my question, Well, you mentioned

993
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:57.199
there was another woman about twenty years
old and maybe a fifteen year old lady

994
01:19:57.239 --> 01:20:02.800
too present. Well, actually June
Taylor is only like eighteen or nineteen.

995
01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:15.920
Everybody will they talk about it.
We cannot find June Taylor or Billy Ray

996
01:20:15.960 --> 01:20:23.560
Taylor. We don't love what happened. I know June made the statement that

997
01:20:24.960 --> 01:20:30.640
she would never come back to Kentucky. That steered her so bad that she

998
01:20:30.800 --> 01:20:34.439
said she would never never come back
to Kentucky. So we don't know where

999
01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:40.880
they're at if they're still alive.
Even and you say there were three children

1000
01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:45.520
hiding under the bed, Yes,
did any of those children see the beings?

1001
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:55.880
Well, Lonema oldest uncle, he
said that he actually got off round

1002
01:20:55.920 --> 01:20:58.399
the bed and went to the window
and looked out the window and peaked and

1003
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:03.279
saw I would have to do that
too. Yeah, and he was twelve,

1004
01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:09.119
so he said he did, and
he did see one of them.

1005
01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:15.239
He has totally from him and anybody
else is still alive for this documentary would

1006
01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:17.760
be great. I mean, besides
the original three, right, you know,

1007
01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:23.720
there are from the children, there
are a few people like there is

1008
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:27.319
this one man, Billy Thomas.
He was a neighbor at the time.

1009
01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:30.479
He was only fourteen when this happened. He's still alive when he can talk

1010
01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:35.640
about it, and he has actually
been in some some stuff that we've done

1011
01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:42.039
here recently. He's a really good, really good because he was friends with

1012
01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:45.159
my dad. My dad actually taught
him how to shoot and how to hunt.

1013
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:51.880
And but there are a few that
we're young back then that are still

1014
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:58.520
alive that do you remember it happening? Billy Thomas was actually, like I

1015
01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:00.640
said, a neighbor and he actually
I saw him and a friend off.

1016
01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:06.319
He saw the lights in the sky
that night and was hearing the commotion at

1017
01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:15.960
the house and and you know,
talk to my dad about it, and

1018
01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:21.520
he's really good, really good.
All right, Hey, Michael, thanks

1019
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:25.560
for the call. We have a
lot of calls lining right up right after

1020
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:30.960
the other. I can also tell
you that, thank you. I can

1021
01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:36.159
also tell you that the day after
the next day something like that, because

1022
01:22:36.319 --> 01:22:40.640
after this event happened, my dad
and him didn't leave right away to go

1023
01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:46.239
back to work. They stayed a
little bit longer, and Billy went down

1024
01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:53.720
to the house and my dad got
a ladder, went a pump roof and

1025
01:22:53.840 --> 01:23:00.880
showed him where the little being up
there head made scratches across team. So

1026
01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:08.119
he actually sang that himself. Yeah, how about that? Did anyone ever

1027
01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:15.000
say to your father you can't hit
the broadside of an alien? Tried to

1028
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:20.239
say that? All right? We
have Sarah from Washington State. Welcome to

1029
01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:29.159
the show. Sarah. Hello,
Sarah, there you are, Yes,

1030
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:35.319
so I also came in a little
late, so I apologize if this was

1031
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:41.119
answered just like the previous guy.
But um, I was wondering a little

1032
01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:45.079
bit more about the creatures. How
were you able to tell that they were

1033
01:23:45.159 --> 01:23:49.159
green? Um? Was it like
when light shone on them? And also

1034
01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:54.840
was there some kind of animal that
we know of that you can compare to

1035
01:23:54.880 --> 01:24:00.680
it, like reptiling reptile, snake
or snake or whatever. Also I wanted

1036
01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:04.640
to know, looking back in hindsight, what do you think they wanted from

1037
01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:10.960
you? My impression is that they
were kind of little tricksters. But I

1038
01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:14.279
can hear your answers off there.
All right, Sarah, thanks for the

1039
01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:23.199
call. They were they were shining
the flashlights so they could see them.

1040
01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:25.960
Of course, the porch light was
shining too in the front of the house,

1041
01:24:26.199 --> 01:24:28.960
so they were able to see these
little things. And they weren't green.

1042
01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:32.359
They were a gray. They always
said a gun metal gray. What

1043
01:24:32.439 --> 01:24:36.520
they want to call a gun metal
gray, But they were gray. Little

1044
01:24:36.520 --> 01:24:42.279
green men came in from a reporter
and it just kind of took hold and

1045
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:46.800
just went wild. Because you have
the color Kelly green, so it was

1046
01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:50.680
easier to say Kelly green man than
Kelly gray Man. It just rolls off

1047
01:24:50.720 --> 01:24:56.439
the tongue better, and that's where
that came from. But they were gray.

1048
01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:04.319
Now as far as a reptilian,
I just I just can't think of

1049
01:25:04.439 --> 01:25:12.359
anything that that would look like as
far as a reptilian, because reptilians usually

1050
01:25:12.439 --> 01:25:15.960
crawl on four legs on the ground
and these were, you know, two

1051
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:20.399
legs standing. So I don't know
about that. And what was about her

1052
01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:26.079
third question? I forgot the third
question. Let me see if she's in

1053
01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:29.479
Sarah, if you happened to be
in chat, please put your third question

1054
01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:34.319
in UM. I should have written
them down, but anyway, sorry about

1055
01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:39.880
that. And we have Andy calling
from Connecticut. Andy, welcome to the

1056
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:46.880
show. Andy. You there,
hyeah, Yeah, you have a question

1057
01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:50.960
for our guess, Andy. I
so yes. My question for Jeraldine is

1058
01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:58.560
two quick things is did the ship
that they arrived on the craft, did

1059
01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:01.920
it harvery nearby? Hover in the
air? Did it land? And then

1060
01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:10.600
the other question was did any of
her relatives remember any telepathic messages of any

1061
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:16.279
kind because that's often associated with you
know, the overwhelming majority of alien contact

1062
01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:23.119
events are telepathic. And good show
as always, and I'll take the answer

1063
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:27.880
off the air guides. All right, Andy, thank you. As far

1064
01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:30.039
as I know, it didn't hover, It went across the sky, and

1065
01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:33.439
Billy Rice seeing it now, he
did not stay out there long enough to

1066
01:26:33.479 --> 01:26:36.880
see where it went. That was
the thing. That's why they didn't know

1067
01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:45.000
it had landed in the back.
And I forgot what the other question was

1068
01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:49.479
already my brains, Diana tonight.
Oh my god, I just started reading

1069
01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:54.399
something in the chat and I totally
blew the last part of the question.

1070
01:26:56.119 --> 01:27:00.720
Also, I got to write these
down because I was keeping track of it

1071
01:27:00.760 --> 01:27:04.920
and started reading. My mistake.
I guess, I guess I only have

1072
01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:09.439
the capability to take one. Oh, yes, thank you. Telepathy.

1073
01:27:09.720 --> 01:27:15.399
You already mentioned that there was no
telepathy. Yes, no telepathy. They

1074
01:27:15.439 --> 01:27:17.600
if there was, they were ignoring
it, let me tell you, because

1075
01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:23.000
they were not setting still long enough
to pay attention to see if there was

1076
01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:26.079
anything going on in the mind.
And they didn't even think about things like

1077
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:30.920
that. I mean, they had
the only communication this family had was a

1078
01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:36.680
radio and the neighbors and what was
between them, and they didn't know anything

1079
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:40.399
about this. They didn't have the
money to go to the movies, and

1080
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:45.600
at the time he got to think
fifty five, the UFO stuff, extrest

1081
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:49.399
real stuff was just now coming out, and they didn't know anything about that,

1082
01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:54.640
so they wouldn't have known what telepathy
was. I really don't think to

1083
01:27:54.680 --> 01:27:57.760
be honest, Yeah, I mean
it would it either happen or not,

1084
01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:03.680
you know, basically, yeah,
and happened. They wouldn't have known that

1085
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:08.880
it was happening to him, I'm
sure, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

1086
01:28:09.119 --> 01:28:13.399
all right, we have Stephen in
California. Welcome to the show. Stephen.

1087
01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:20.199
Hi, Martin, Hi, Jardine, Hi, Hi. I'm curious

1088
01:28:20.199 --> 01:28:28.960
having family have such a cloth encounter
this. Did this direct you to interested

1089
01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:34.119
in UFOs and maybe a search for
answers and what's your thoughts on what's going

1090
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:40.880
on U currently with the UFO on
the news and what's going on and everything.

1091
01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:48.800
Um Now, before this incident happened, I was a sci fi girl.

1092
01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:55.600
I love sci fi and horror.
So when this story comes up and

1093
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:59.119
started and I heard about it and
this happened to my family, it scared

1094
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:04.039
me to dad. So guess what
alien movies, alien shows and stuff scare

1095
01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:10.239
me even to this day. If
it's a certain kind like an abduction movie

1096
01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:14.000
or something like that. It really
really bothers me. I don't like watching

1097
01:29:14.039 --> 01:29:19.159
them, so that's kind of like, well, you know, and as

1098
01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:24.000
far as what's going on today in
the news in the world, it's about

1099
01:29:24.079 --> 01:29:28.199
time they start talking about this stuff
because it's out there. You know,

1100
01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:31.239
a lot of people don't want to
believe it. I mean, believe me.

1101
01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:36.840
I get it when I do festivals
and stuff, because I have people

1102
01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:41.600
come up to me, and it's
so crazy. I have people come up

1103
01:29:41.640 --> 01:29:44.840
to me and tell me that I
don't believe in God because I believe in

1104
01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:50.199
aliens and stuff like that. And
it's just outlandish because you've got this,

1105
01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:55.960
these people that believe we're it and
there's nothing else. You know, you

1106
01:29:56.039 --> 01:30:00.000
got this vast universe out there with
millions of planets and stars that yet we're

1107
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:04.279
it. Come on, get real, hell you Oh, there's kind of

1108
01:30:04.279 --> 01:30:09.520
being more stuff out there. So
I'm glad they're starting to bring this stuff

1109
01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:15.600
out and maybe people will take it
seriously now and realize that we are not

1110
01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:25.159
hit. I think we're heading that
way. Anything else. Stephen, Oh,

1111
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:28.600
you know, just thank you for
your courage to speak out and keep

1112
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:32.560
the story. It's a very important
incident. That's your bee kept going and

1113
01:30:32.680 --> 01:30:36.359
told and God bless you. Well, thank you. I appreciate that.

1114
01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:42.399
Thank you, all right, thank
you. All right. We have Sarah

1115
01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:45.640
who called in earlier. She was
kind enough to put her last question in

1116
01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:50.560
there. And looking back to hindsight, what do you think they want wanted

1117
01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:55.800
from you? Did they seem like
tricksters? Okay? Yeah, and I

1118
01:30:55.800 --> 01:31:00.079
remember that one. We don't know
that. Maybe that's what they were.

1119
01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:08.000
Maybe that's I had. I went
to a UFO convention and I had somebody

1120
01:31:08.079 --> 01:31:13.560
tell me that they think that it
was the kids they were attached to because

1121
01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:16.960
they were small. The kids were
small. My aunt Mary was a little

1122
01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:23.680
bitty tiny things. So it's Uncle
Charlton, and that could have been.

1123
01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:27.479
Maybe they just wanted to play.
Maybe this longer can out play. But

1124
01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:30.920
if that was the case, you
had my poor mama who was married to

1125
01:31:30.960 --> 01:31:34.880
her first husband. She said,
lived over in the valley and she had

1126
01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:40.600
seven kids, so he knows why
did they go after this one house.

1127
01:31:41.319 --> 01:31:45.039
So we just don't know why they
were there. And you know, you

1128
01:31:45.119 --> 01:31:48.399
think about it and yeah, it
looks like they were just wanting to play

1129
01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:54.520
or they were just like you say, tricksters. But we'll never ever know

1130
01:31:54.600 --> 01:31:58.880
they didn't get a chance to tell
us what they wanted, poor little things.

1131
01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:03.319
But yeah, well we have another
call waiting, and I will tell

1132
01:32:03.359 --> 01:32:08.479
you the lines are open um if
someone wants to call in that numbers eight

1133
01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:12.199
five five four seven two five four
eighty three. That's a show call.

1134
01:32:12.680 --> 01:32:17.319
I'm almost scared to answer this one
because it's skull and bones, skull and

1135
01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:24.000
bones from Canada. I hope,
I hope you're nice. Hi there,

1136
01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:30.079
hey, hello Mark, Hello there, Hello there, well hello Ji huntin

1137
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:38.159
Hello, Hello there. I was. This whole story is so great for

1138
01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:45.439
me for a long time because it's
reached all this this mood and the family

1139
01:32:45.159 --> 01:32:51.920
storry for the English by the week
and the h and and I was.

1140
01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:57.520
My My question is what happened is
between all the whole people there, the

1141
01:32:57.560 --> 01:33:01.600
whole family, the young, the
whole and what happened like before that hasn't

1142
01:33:01.640 --> 01:33:08.319
those days before? Did something happened
like those people who were missing sleep they

1143
01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:14.159
saw something, they went fishing and
something happened, because that night is like

1144
01:33:14.199 --> 01:33:17.840
the crisis. But this family,
it's like this. The whole mood of

1145
01:33:17.880 --> 01:33:25.760
this family is great, this this
this dynamic there and nothing comes for nothing,

1146
01:33:25.880 --> 01:33:30.439
it's caused to effect. So I
was wondering if you would be aware.

1147
01:33:30.520 --> 01:33:34.439
I knew it's a long time ago, but if the harbor told you,

1148
01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:39.720
like before that day, if anything
happened. So, yeah, that's

1149
01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:42.960
my question. You know, I
had a similar question. I was going

1150
01:33:43.039 --> 01:33:45.960
to ask her next that's uh so, yeah, what do you say to

1151
01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:49.319
that, Charlton. As far as
I know, they were just like I

1152
01:33:49.359 --> 01:33:55.279
said, my dad and Via and
Billy, Ray and Jan were there to

1153
01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:59.800
enjoy a weekend away from the carnival. Yeah, they were there to visit

1154
01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:03.640
his brothers who lived in Hopkinsville,
which they did. They hunted, they

1155
01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:06.279
went out and had a good time. You know, they had some decent

1156
01:34:06.439 --> 01:34:12.520
food. As far as I know, nothing crazy happened. I mean,

1157
01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:18.560
you gotta think fifty five Kelly.
It was laid back. These were night

1158
01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:27.880
nothing not that I know of.
And if they had have had something like

1159
01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:30.600
that happened, they probably want to
talk about it because they probably wouldn't have

1160
01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:35.600
connected it because, like I said, it was a different time period.

1161
01:34:36.039 --> 01:34:42.640
You know, You've got farming families
out here, and they connected with each

1162
01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:47.399
other through their their church, their
families there. You know, that's how

1163
01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:51.920
they lived. Back then. It
was simple times, and I just don't

1164
01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:57.399
think they would have connected anything.
If they had a dream, they wouldn't

1165
01:34:57.439 --> 01:35:01.479
have connected it to something like that. I really don't. Thanks. Yeah,

1166
01:35:00.079 --> 01:35:04.840
that's a love. That's a love, all right, Hey, thank

1167
01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:12.840
you for the call. Yeah,
So so back then, you know,

1168
01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:15.680
you're you're talking back then, and
you kind of bring that up a lot,

1169
01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:19.079
and it was definitely a different time. Again, the lines are open

1170
01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:24.520
eight five five four seven two five
four eight three. If also, if

1171
01:35:24.520 --> 01:35:28.319
you don't want to call and you
want to put a question out there on

1172
01:35:28.359 --> 01:35:30.720
the chat, just make sure you
put it in all caps so I see

1173
01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:38.279
it. Um. And as as
far as um the what he just mentioned,

1174
01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:41.960
I was wondering too if there was
anything you know ahead of time that

1175
01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:47.239
anyone ever talked about but obviously not
that you're aware of. Yeah, there

1176
01:35:47.399 --> 01:35:51.840
wasn't. Yeah, and what about
the area? You know, you mentioned

1177
01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:57.199
that night that they saw lights,
but as far as you know, was

1178
01:35:57.239 --> 01:36:01.239
there any other you know type so
of UFO sightings in the area. It's

1179
01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:09.600
just like an area where and they
often see UFOs. It's a pretty strange

1180
01:36:10.199 --> 01:36:13.079
I'll be honest with you. It's
a pretty strained area. I've heard people,

1181
01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:20.399
you know, down't think the years
recently talk about seeing different lights and

1182
01:36:20.520 --> 01:36:27.159
stuff on OH. Ninety one,
which is a road that goes them through

1183
01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:31.000
there, and it's a long,
tiring, pouring road. And I've heard

1184
01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:38.039
people talk about coming home from school
or work or something and seeing lights in

1185
01:36:38.119 --> 01:36:41.840
the road or lights follow them that
they don't know what they are. They're

1186
01:36:41.840 --> 01:36:45.079
not car lights or not truck lights
anything like that. What are they?

1187
01:36:45.560 --> 01:36:48.640
You know, kinds of things like
that people have told me about. But

1188
01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:53.720
I think a lot of people just
put it off the Fort Campbell now because

1189
01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:59.359
they think there's maneuvers going on and
they see something strange. Oh, it's

1190
01:36:59.399 --> 01:37:03.359
just sport able, and I'll think
about it anymore. And some of that

1191
01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:09.760
very well could be. We have
a Mike calling from Cincinnati. Mike,

1192
01:37:09.880 --> 01:37:14.720
Welcome to the show. I'm Martin. I called before, but I meant

1193
01:37:14.720 --> 01:37:20.760
to ask a question about the ring
that the object left in wherever it was,

1194
01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:26.800
and if she could still find that
today or someone could find that area

1195
01:37:26.920 --> 01:37:30.840
today sixty five years later, and
how long it took for before things grew

1196
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:36.760
back when theer when the last time
she was there? Thank you, thank

1197
01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:44.840
you. That's a good question.
Well let me tell you. Oh,

1198
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:50.119
as I mentioned earlier, the Travel
Channel is doing a show. The host

1199
01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:57.960
that is doing it came down and
we recorded for it. We actually had

1200
01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:02.800
a little map that Isabel davis Head
drawed out that showed where everything was and

1201
01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:11.720
where the craft had landed. So
we went and took this little nap and

1202
01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:14.760
he was really good. I can't
tell you who it is that he was

1203
01:38:14.920 --> 01:38:17.439
really good. He was able to
go in there into these woods. And

1204
01:38:17.479 --> 01:38:21.199
now you got to realize the people
that own this land don't want you own

1205
01:38:21.239 --> 01:38:27.760
their land, and the part where
the craft landed isn't their land. So

1206
01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:31.039
you know, it was like,
well, what are we gonna do?

1207
01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:40.840
We risked it and went back in
there into these woods and the woods were

1208
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:45.880
thick. You can hardly get through
there, but he was so it grew

1209
01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:50.399
in quite a bit in the area
grown now it's grown now now where he

1210
01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:55.199
found this area. Of course,
it's it's not as thick as some other

1211
01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:59.439
parts of the woods. These woods
headed and cutting years that just let it

1212
01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:06.079
let it row, And he's pretty
sure he found the area where it landed.

1213
01:39:06.560 --> 01:39:13.840
Now, my sister and I were
there and we stopped going so far

1214
01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:16.920
because it was just going down,
down, down into the gully where this

1215
01:39:17.319 --> 01:39:24.279
landed at and we stopped, but
he went on down in there, and

1216
01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:29.680
so I don't know if that's going
to be I would think he would put

1217
01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:31.199
that in the show where they would
put that in the show. We'll see

1218
01:39:31.239 --> 01:39:39.640
when it airs. But yeah,
just here recently, I was pretty close

1219
01:39:39.720 --> 01:39:44.960
to it right there. But that
many years ago, you know, there's

1220
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:48.079
no way there's going to be neat
trace. I would think any traces of

1221
01:39:48.199 --> 01:39:54.039
anything would be there. I mean
it would be it's possible, but you

1222
01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:59.640
know a lot of rainstorms and winters
and seasons later everything gets kind of,

1223
01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:02.920
uh, you know, covered over
and washed away. There's anything there at

1224
01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:09.920
all. It's sixty five years of
that growth. So yeah, you mentioned

1225
01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:12.880
the house is kind of like,
um, I don't know, did you

1226
01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:15.239
say boarded up or something there?
Oh, it's not there anymore. It's

1227
01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:18.439
it's not there. It's taken down. Were down in the eighties and they've

1228
01:40:18.439 --> 01:40:24.079
built the new house there. The
people on the land now I see and

1229
01:40:24.239 --> 01:40:27.680
uh, someone's asking you can't answer
this question, can you? Who's the

1230
01:40:27.760 --> 01:40:33.920
host for the Travel Channel? You
probably have a nondisclosure agreement, so you

1231
01:40:33.960 --> 01:40:38.520
can't can't even talk about it.
I'm not hoping to talk about this right

1232
01:40:38.560 --> 01:40:42.800
now. Yeah, yeah, so
just be patient. Can you actually talk

1233
01:40:42.840 --> 01:40:46.720
about when we may expect to see
it. It's gonna be September October,

1234
01:40:46.760 --> 01:40:50.840
I think of this year. Yeah, this year. Yes, yes,

1235
01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:55.119
yeah, they're they're working on it
right now. I mean, they haven't

1236
01:40:55.119 --> 01:41:00.640
getting hold of me getting more pictures
and stuff, and they're hoping their September

1237
01:41:00.760 --> 01:41:02.960
October. So just keep an eye
on Travel channel. It's a coming.

1238
01:41:03.720 --> 01:41:13.079
I would bet fifty bucks I know
who it is. And he's got a

1239
01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:16.039
terrific background. If it's who I'm
thinking, Yes, how about that.

1240
01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:24.359
I'm gonna send him an email after
the show tonight. I'll just tell him

1241
01:41:24.359 --> 01:41:29.199
I guessed. No, I know, I won't say anything. Okay,

1242
01:41:29.960 --> 01:41:32.720
So how did the press learn about
the this is Richard in the chat?

1243
01:41:32.760 --> 01:41:36.760
How did the press learn about the
event, and how did the story become

1244
01:41:36.840 --> 01:41:45.279
national news? It just went I
mean they had the initial the initial press

1245
01:41:45.359 --> 01:41:50.520
was a police radio or I mean, you know, they called the local

1246
01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:56.640
paper. They called the local paper. The radio. It was on the

1247
01:41:56.720 --> 01:42:02.319
local radio station. I've actually got
the little DVD with the aired thing from

1248
01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:06.680
the radio when they first announced it. And so when it hit that,

1249
01:42:06.880 --> 01:42:13.399
I guess it just took off running. Well, yeah, yeah, something

1250
01:42:13.439 --> 01:42:16.319
like that happens. You know.
Even a lot of people think, well,

1251
01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:18.359
you know, it's back then.
You know, they didn't have the

1252
01:42:18.399 --> 01:42:25.119
internet or anything like that. But
let me tell you something, stuff traveled

1253
01:42:25.279 --> 01:42:30.920
fast and far and wide on anything
like this that happened. And who was

1254
01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:38.239
it that called? Do you know
who called? Yeah, a family member

1255
01:42:38.279 --> 01:42:42.079
called the press. No, no, no, no, I didn't know.

1256
01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:45.680
It was that night when they were
into the police station, Greenwolf's chief

1257
01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:49.880
greenwal told the officer own duty to
call the local paper. I got it.

1258
01:42:50.239 --> 01:42:56.600
The local paper was there to take
pictures. Yeah, And they were

1259
01:42:56.800 --> 01:43:00.119
part of them that were making fun
of the situation. They were it was

1260
01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:03.359
a man and a woman, and
they were wanting dog on pictures. They

1261
01:43:03.399 --> 01:43:09.560
wanted pictures of the beans or whatever
they were. They want pictures because they

1262
01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:13.439
were gonna make it big time if
they got pictures. And that's what they

1263
01:43:13.479 --> 01:43:17.199
were saying. And they were making
fun of the situation and stuff. And

1264
01:43:17.239 --> 01:43:21.720
that's what my dad heard. I'm
talking And but that's where it started.

1265
01:43:21.880 --> 01:43:25.600
And you know, of course it
went in the paper the next day.

1266
01:43:25.640 --> 01:43:30.439
Then the Kentucky Era there in Hopkinsville
got it and took off, and then

1267
01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:33.079
the radio station announced it because of
course papers got at the radio. Is

1268
01:43:33.119 --> 01:43:36.119
gonna have it at the local radio, and so they got it. So

1269
01:43:36.199 --> 01:43:39.319
it got out on that So I
when I hit the radio, I think

1270
01:43:39.319 --> 01:43:43.600
when it hit the radio, that's
probably when it went. Yeah, yeah,

1271
01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:45.880
it doesn't It doesn't take long.
I was looking to see if I

1272
01:43:45.880 --> 01:43:49.359
could find any other you know,
all I see is the drawings. Now,

1273
01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:53.479
can you go one more time?
I know you you kind of talked

1274
01:43:53.520 --> 01:43:56.479
about it a little bit at the
very beginning of the show. But how

1275
01:43:56.520 --> 01:44:00.359
did the drawings come about? Whose
idea was that to have them draw what

1276
01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:06.880
they saw? Oh? Gosh,
what's the guy's name? Um, it's

1277
01:44:06.920 --> 01:44:11.319
in my book. Okay, that's
no problem. But how did how did

1278
01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:17.920
he? How was it approached for
them to draw a local Oh? What

1279
01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:23.319
was he? Gosh, I can't
think my brains. Did a local guy

1280
01:44:23.399 --> 01:44:26.920
a local report? I think he
was a reporter at the time. I

1281
01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:30.720
wanted to find out more. So
he did it. He went to the

1282
01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:32.720
family and asked him what they could
tell him, what they looked like,

1283
01:44:32.920 --> 01:44:38.600
and so they said, yeah,
you know, we'll tell you. So

1284
01:44:38.720 --> 01:44:43.520
he took them each off in a
room to themselves, just him, whoever

1285
01:44:43.560 --> 01:44:47.239
it was, and had them tell
them what it looked like, and he

1286
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:55.600
drew it out and those drawings I
see. So he they had it was

1287
01:44:55.680 --> 01:45:01.359
like an artist, like a character
artist or like a police witness artist.

1288
01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:05.239
No, no, no, no, it's just a local Oh just a

1289
01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:11.760
local person. Local God, let
me see you. Meanwhile, I'm trying

1290
01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:15.079
to get some pictures up here of
that. I think I got a new

1291
01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:21.079
one right here coming through lad with
bad lead with it is the one that

1292
01:45:21.159 --> 01:45:27.720
did it. I see. Okay, we are going to uh if anyone

1293
01:45:27.800 --> 01:45:30.039
wants to call in, you have
just a couple of minutes to call in.

1294
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:35.520
Otherwise that's going to be it for
calls this evening because we have to

1295
01:45:35.640 --> 01:45:42.239
end the show just a little bit
early, and I did want to.

1296
01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:49.600
I'll just hanging just a second.
Um. So anyway, this is the

1297
01:45:49.720 --> 01:45:56.520
drawings and it shows a comparative.
Now on this, if you look at

1298
01:45:56.520 --> 01:46:00.439
the screen geraldin, you'll see a
picture of there's one of them has like

1299
01:46:00.560 --> 01:46:04.800
clothes on. Did someone think they
saw clothes on one of them? No?

1300
01:46:04.800 --> 01:46:08.319
No, I don't know where that
came. Friends. I mean,

1301
01:46:08.479 --> 01:46:12.239
oh, that might be just a
bogus thing. Okay, I'll take that

1302
01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:18.439
down because yeah, of course people
were, I'm sure drawing different things.

1303
01:46:18.439 --> 01:46:27.439
Now the actual real drawings are bad, are like that one? Yeah yeah,

1304
01:46:27.720 --> 01:46:31.560
the one that's got the abs that
Billy Ray? Oh yeah yeah,

1305
01:46:32.159 --> 01:46:39.119
I wonder where he works out.
They got the other planet planet Fitness.

1306
01:46:39.279 --> 01:46:43.640
No, sorry, that's a bad
joke, and you got the others yeah

1307
01:46:43.720 --> 01:46:48.560
yeah, yeah, well interesting.
So yeah, well it's like you said,

1308
01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:54.479
it's been fifteen years since it's been
a documentary done on this thing,

1309
01:46:54.560 --> 01:46:59.199
and you know, maybe you are
doing your best to keep the story alive.

1310
01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:01.840
And you know, do you have
someone that will fall on your footsteps

1311
01:47:01.880 --> 01:47:04.720
if you decide not to do that
anymore? Well, I'll tell my son.

1312
01:47:04.760 --> 01:47:10.560
He's gonna have to YEA hope he
will or not? Does he have

1313
01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:15.520
an interest in it and the whole
thing? Yeah? Actually he uh,

1314
01:47:15.600 --> 01:47:17.279
his senior year in high school,
he did a paper on it, his

1315
01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:23.520
senior paper on it. So yeah, so he can do it. He

1316
01:47:23.680 --> 01:47:28.680
just have to to learn. But
maybe you're he told me I couldn't die,

1317
01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:34.800
so I got pure out. But
I got a kid's book I'm working

1318
01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:38.880
on. An illustrator is working on
it right now, so hopefully i'll have

1319
01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:43.760
it out soon. It's gonna be
cute, a kid's book about the encounter.

1320
01:47:44.239 --> 01:47:51.079
Yes, sleepwell kids. Yeah,
it's not scary. It's gonna be

1321
01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:56.279
really cute. Oh I bet,
I bet. Well we are. We

1322
01:47:56.359 --> 01:48:00.720
are toward the end of the show
here, and so now, if someone

1323
01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:03.399
wanted to reach out to you,
how would they do that? If you

1324
01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:08.520
want to give your information out there, you're welcome to. I do have

1325
01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:14.800
a website, it's Eleen Legacy nineteen
fifty five dot com and it's got my

1326
01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:20.279
email on there and everything. But
Facebook, I mean, how we connected.

1327
01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:25.239
Yeah, yeah, that's probably the
best thing. If you really want

1328
01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:29.439
to talk to me about anything,
I'll try to answer any questions I can.

1329
01:48:29.560 --> 01:48:31.359
If you've got any I don't mind
talking about it. It's like I

1330
01:48:31.439 --> 01:48:34.840
tell people, any day you can
talk about the Green Man is a good

1331
01:48:34.920 --> 01:48:40.680
day. So yeah, yeah,
that's right. Well it's great. Well,

1332
01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:43.439
thank you so much. It's been
a real pleasure. Well, thank

1333
01:48:43.479 --> 01:48:45.960
you for having me. I enjoyed
it. Yeah, it's been a lot

1334
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:48.880
of fun. All right. You
take care of yourself. Thank you you

1335
01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:54.279
too, all right, good night. Whoops, I cut her off.

1336
01:48:54.279 --> 01:48:59.079
I hate when I do that.
Next we have the show is called If

1337
01:48:59.079 --> 01:49:02.239
you're on KGr Hey Radio and you're
listening, the show coming up next is

1338
01:49:02.279 --> 01:49:09.600
called Universal Secrets. The hosts of
Tiffany Mac and Kevin Hale and their guest

1339
01:49:09.680 --> 01:49:15.720
tonight is Ken Gerard. He's a
crypto crypto zoologist. It's always a hard

1340
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:20.399
word to say. Next week,
don't forget everyone. We have Tom Warner.

1341
01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:26.920
If you haven't seen I know some
people just can't get there. But

1342
01:49:26.960 --> 01:49:31.159
if you haven't seen the Netflix.
If you don't have Netflix, I don't

1343
01:49:31.159 --> 01:49:35.319
know what to tell you to do. But the Berkshire's UFOs I believe it's

1344
01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:40.199
episode five. Check that out.
If you can do that in between time,

1345
01:49:40.279 --> 01:49:44.960
it is really really amazing. And
so that is it for us tonight.

1346
01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:48.039
Thank you so much and again we'll
be back next week. Thanks for

1347
01:49:48.119 --> 01:49:51.840
all those who help out and Bill, thanks for your extra help tonight and

1348
01:49:53.359 --> 01:49:58.159
the call center over there. Take
care everyone and remember to keep your eyes

1349
01:49:58.319 --> 01:49:58.920
to the sky.