I was listening to the story about It was the story of a family in
Washington, and the little boy called the big Foot the cowboy man, and
he had apparently it had made an effort to steal this kid. And it
hit me. My children were in that playpen behind me, were nothing but
a mosquito net over them. It could have crept up behind me and taken
both of my children, and I wouldn't have known. Father just got like
a Mustang or something from Wyoming, Okay. He had it out in the
corral because he couldn't put it in the barn with the in the stalls,
with the other horses that would kick and made all the other horses nervous.
Had a seminal Indian work in the horse, trying to break it. Every
day. They had it out in the corrawn. The skunky snuck up behind
his horse and grabbed it bonnets, hindquarters. This particular horse that kicks out,
jumps over the corral, runs into the pit, you know, to
get away. At this point, the ranchers out there just blessed away with
the thirty thirty stun gave us into the slump. I went up there one
day after that or two days after that, I went up there and sat
in the silence up there, and I'm telling you, man, it was
free. It was crazy, you know it was. There was a crazy
vibe up there. Still. I did what I could to kind of get
things out of control. But I told her, I said, you need
to get off this proper. I feel like, no matter how strong you
are, it's almost like standing in the ocean. You can't stand still without
moving your feet. You're going to get knocked over eventually. No matter how
strong whatever, you can't withstand a barrage of of weird spiritual energy. That's
Twaine. Welcome back to Paranormal Odyssey, guys. We are continuing our Missing
Persons series today with this one. We're gonna be looking into the disappearance of
Jim Carter from the Mount Saint Helen's basically eight Kenyon area. This is another
crazy, crazy one. This dude was a professional skier. This happened in
nineteen fifty and he just completely disappeared off of the face of this earth.
No sign has been found from him other than an empty camera film case.
That will make more sense as you listen. Also, in this one,
I'd give a little bit of an update on the Yuba County five episode that
was just released last week. Gotten all kinds of feedback from you, guys.
You really enjoyed that one as much as I did looking into it,
So there is a little bit of an update in this episode as well.
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Welcome back to Paranormal Odyssey. Going to be continuing our series that we're doing
on missing people. I can't tell you just the outpouring that I've gotten from
you guys, wanting to continue these missing person cases. It seems to be
something that we are all very very interested in and I absolutely love looking into
them. So I'm gonna be doing quite a bit more of these, and
today today is going to be somewhat Bigfoot related. We're gonna be talking about
the disappearance of Jim Carter, or as I've seen in other videos, he
was known as Joe Carter to him as Jim Carter, So that's what we
will go with. This happened at Mount Saint Helen's near eight Canyon. People
believe that the mountain devils got him. It's a really really crazy, crazy
case. Like always, We're going to play the clip for you and then
I will come back on and talk about some possible theories and then offer chance
for you guys to get back to me with any of your theories or on
what you thought possibly may have happened to him. But again, guys,
this one is crazy. This guy disappears. This happened in nineteen fifty and
he has never been saying this is not a normal guy. He is.
He was a professional skeer. He was great at what he did. And
uh yeah, I'll just let you guys listen to the clip, because they
would do it more justice than I can. Today's clip is going to be
from Mountain Beased Mysteries. If you don't already follow that channel, head over
there and give him a sub He does great work over there. Yeah,
we're just gonna jump right in. Today's adventure started off like any other.
You packed up all of your ski equipment. You check the weather, you
check the snow conditions on the mountain, and you called your buddies to let
them know you're on your way out to the mountain for one last day of
ski touring to cap off what was a great winter. You get to the
mountain after a beautiful and peaceful drive through the wilderness, and you find your
friends at the meat location. Everyone is in high spirits and everyone is pumped
to ditch the cars and get out into the alpine. In town, you're
a local legend. You work through the winters as a member of the ski
patrol at the local hill. You've conducted mountaineering expeditions all over the Himalayas.
You have a vast knowledge of alpine climbing and ski touring, and people do
you when they want to have a good time In the mountains. They see
you as a very talented guide and just a great person to be around.
They trust you with their lives. After getting all geared up, you and
the twenty or so others in your group hit the trail and begin making your
way up the mountain. This isn't just any other mountain, though, This
is Mount Saint Helens, a mountain shrouded in mystery. Led the rumors floating
around town of the ape men or the mountain devils that are set to roam
various surrounding Mount Saint Helens, but for the most part, you chalk it
up to be nothing more than that a rumor. There's no way anything like
that could actually exist. To yourself, and let's be honest, you've been
out to this very spot countless times and you've never seen or heard anything out
there in the wilderness to lead you to believe that these apemen or bigfoot creatures
as they're most commonly known, actually exist, let alone be credited with the
violent attack of a group of prospectors back in the nineteen twenties. You put
all these thoughts in the back of your mind and focus on the rest of
the climb and spending time with your friends. The day is young and there's
still so much adventure yet to come. You and your buddies make it to
the top of the snow covered peak. It's late spring and this is the
only part of the mountain that still has snow. Talk about late season.
You get the great idea to put your new thirty five millimeter camera to the
test by recommending to your friends that you should ski down first and then set
up the camera to get some good action shots of everybody else skiing down.
What a better way to make memories than to literally freeze them in time and
put them in an album to cherish well into the future. Everyone is excited
about the idea and you send you on your way. What you don't realize,
though, is that this is literally the last time you would see any
of your friends, or anyone else for that matter. This is the day
that you disappear forever. Hey, everyone, welcome to Mountain Beast Mysteries.
In today's video, we're going to be talking about the strange disappearance of Jim
Carter. Jim Carter disappeared back in nineteen fifty in the month of May.
He was a professional skier, professional alpinist, who was really well known,
had an incredible skill set in the mountains. He was well trained, he
knew what he was doing, and for some reason, in late May of
that year, he went missing while on a ski trip with like twenty other
people. Very peculiar circumstances too, that he went missing under He just vanished
after a massive two week search, you know, sometimes involving up to seventy
five people. So the question is how did Jim disappear? Now, the
interesting thing is that Jim went missing in what is called Ape Canyon. And
we know about Ape Canyon here in the bigfoot world because it's the site of
the famous Ape Canyon incident where a bunch of prospectors were attacked in their cabin
by multiple rock throwing bigfoot creatures and they just barely made it through the night
and then got out of there in a hurry. It's one of the most
famous bigfoot stories out there. Is it related to this story, the story
of Jim Carter and his bizarre disappearance. Possibly? We have lots of bigfoot
stories that come out of the Mount Saint Helen's region, just like we talked
about in the last video. But before I share my thoughts on this story.
Let's get into what actually happened. I'll go over an article here that
was first published back in nineteen sixty three The Longview Washington Times, August nineteen
sixty three. Ape Canyon, the legendary home of the Harry Apes of Mount
Saint Helen's, apparently swallowed an experienced mountaineer and expert skier. In May of
nineteen fifty, no trace of Jim Carter, thirty two, who disappeared from
a twenty member client coming party from Seattle, was found. Although teams of
the Northwest's most proficient mountain rescue units combed to the area for weeks. Carter's
complete disappearance is an unsolved mystery to this day, declared Bob Lee, a
well known Portland mountaineer who is a member of the exclusive Worldwide Alpine Club,
a leader of the nineteen sixty one Himalayan Expedition and advisor to the nineteen sixty
three American Expedition, Lee said he had never seen one of the monsters,
but that there certainly was evidence that there was something strange on the high slopes
of the mountain. He said he was convinced of this during the search for
Carter, Doctor Otto Trot, Lee Stark, and myself finally came to the
conclusion that the mountain devils got him, said Lee seriously. Lee, a
member of the Seattle Mountain Search and Rescue Unit at the time, describes the
hunt for Carter and Abe Canyon as the most eerie experience I have ever had.
He said that every time he got cut off from the rest of the
searchers during the long hunt, he got a feeling that somebody was watching him.
I could feel the hair on my neck standing up. It was eerie.
I was unarmed except for my ice axe, and believe me, I
never let go of that. At this point in Lee's story, I could
feel my own hair standing up a bit, ready to shoulder packs for SAPARi
to Ape Canyon to try and determine whether there is any truth to the Ape
stories. I began to feel a little dubious about the whole expedition. The
rest of Lee's tales above the Seattle Man's disappearance didn't do much to reassure me.
It seemed that the missing man, Carter, had climbed Mount Saint Helen's
with the group from Seattle on a warm, clear Sunday. On the way
down the mountain, he left the other climbers near a landmark called Dog's Head
at the eight thousand foot level. Carter told them he would ski around to
the left and take a picture of the group as they skied down to the
timberline. That was the last time that anyone had seen Carter. The next
morning, searchers found a discarded film box at the point where he had taken
a picture. From there, Carter eventually took off down the mountain in a
wild, death defying dash, taking chances that no skier of his caliber would
takes something was terribly wrong or he was being pursued, says Lee, who
was one of the first searchers to reach Carter's ski tracks. He jumped over
two or three large crevasses and evidently was going like the devil. When Carter's
tracks reached the precipitous sides of Ape Canyon, the searchers were amazed to see
that Carter had been in such a hurry that he went right down the steep
canyon walls, but they didn't find him at the bottom of the canyon as
they expected. We combed the canyon one end to the other, for five
days. Sometimes there were as many as seventy five persons in the search party,
but no sign of Carter or his equipment was found. Lee says after
two weeks the search was called off. Lee, who has lived in the
Northwest most of his life, recalls that there are about twenty five different reports
of people being attacked by ape like men in the mount Saint Helens and Cascade
areas over a twenty year period. One was a group of Boy Scouts from
Centralia, he said, as near as he could remember, several of the
boys who were taken off the mountain or hysterical after being attacked by the mountain
devils. Director Dick Whitney of the Regional Boy Scout Office of Olympia, Washington,
promised to look for a record of the incident. To our surprise,
he called back to say that he had located the name of the leader of
the troop involved in the incident. It was a troop under the late Scoutmaster
Peas from Centralia, he said. Whitney promised to have Pease's son, who
worked for the State of Washington, called the journal as soon as he returns
from vacation. Very strange, strange story This guy had lots of experience in
the outdoors, in the alpine and on skis. Like he knew it,
his friends knew it. They didn't think there was anything really to worry about.
And it's interesting to hear what the search and rescue people say. They
were extremely creeped out and always had that feeling that they were being watched while
they were searching for him. It's weird. He essentially fell right into Ape
Canyon, you know, right there where this crazy event happened back in nineteen
twenty four, one of the most famous big foot stories out there, one
of the few bigfoot stories where these creatures have been documented, you know,
attacking people and actually having a crazy altercation where the people are shooting at them.
You know, is it a coincidence that this guy went missing right where
that happened. This guy was frantically trying to get down the mountain and there
was no sign of avalanches, you know, and his friends that were looking
for him, they couldn't find any signs of anything really strange happening other than
that it appeared that he was trying to get away from something. You know.
The weird thing is, though, is that no bigfoot like tracks were
spotted. When you're up there on a mountain like that and the wind is
blowing, it doesn't take long for tracks beet covered up, So there could
have been tracks there, maybe they just didn't see them, but they followed
his ski tracks. They saw that he had skied over like a big crevasse,
and you know, that's a very like, that's kind of a daredevil
move, you know, very very dangerous, very high risk, and eventually
skied apparently off into the canyon to never be found again. And there was
a lot of effort put into trying to find him. There's a lot of
people involved, and it's just weird, you know, that he vanished in
that way, because you would think that all they would have to do is
follow the tracks and that would lead them to his body, but it didn't.
You're kind of like pinpointing exactly where he should be and he should be
there, and he's not. He's just gone and the body has never been
found. And that happened, you know, over seventy years ago, so
it's likely obviously now that his remains probably won't ever be found. It's not
impossible, but highly highly unlikely. And you know, if the ape Canyon
story is true, then there are some sort of violent ape like beings out
there. And you know, after an incident like that where you know,
these prospectors shot at them and they had this little battle throughout the night.
After an incident like that, you would think that they might be angry.
And back in nineteen fifty, this was only twenty six years after that,
you know, it's not seventy years like nowadays. It's it was a little
more fresh in people's memories, a little more fresh in the history of Bigfoot.
It's just a very very strange story. It's one of the stories where
you think, really like, this guy should have been found, you know,
the way they searched the area, and just the amount of skill that
these people had. They were highly trained search and rescue people and they can
find them. And there was like seventy five people looking for him at one
point, so eventually they just called off the search. They did find,
you know, the little box from the role of film that he had put
in his camera, and that's about it. You know, it would be
really interesting if that camera was found, you know, and maybe the film
was in it still and maybe it was preserved and some images were recorded on
it mysterious images, maybe images of Bigfoot, who knows. It kind of
reminds me of the Deal Love Pass incident. It's a story about a group
of skiers who took off into the mountains for you know, however many days,
and they all died and nobody really knows how. But they had cameras
with them. They were documenting their trip and some of the photos are very
mysterious. But you know, the story hasn't really been solved yet. The
case hasn't been solved. They don't know what exactly happened. A lot of
people like to think it was like a yetty creature. A lot of people
like to think it was military experiments things of that nature. But there hasn't
been any definitive conclusion as to what happened with the dlof Pass incident, and
the same with this story. Will probably never find out and it'll be a
mystery forever. Stay tuned for more paranormal odyssey. I guess there you have
it again. That clip is cartsy of Mountain Beefed Mysteries. And again,
guys, that's a really cool channel over there. Puts in a lot of
time and y'all go check it out, give him a sub and to follow
all of that good stuff. I mean, where do we start. I
think I'm going to start off, you know, echoing what he just said.
The people that look for him, I mean, these aren't just volunteer
workers. I mean these are trained search and rescue people that go out and
have a good, a very very high success rate in finding people, not
always finding him alive, but finding them. No trace of this dude other
than the film box was ever found. Why what kept these people from doing
their job successfully? I don't know, man. I if y'all can think
of anything other than him being grabbed by something and carried off, then let
me know, because I can't think of anything. First off, you talk
about where it happened at one of the most legendary big Foot encounter citing areas
ever in the world, not Ape Canyon, where this crazy event happened to
these prospectors back in the twenties. I think most all of us agree,
well, the majority of us agree that it actually happened. I certainly think
that it actually happened. And you throw on top of that all the other
reports in the area since then, and the gentleman in this clip just spoke
about people being attacked by what they are calling mountain devils. This dude saw
something, something scared the hell out of him, and he took off skiing
like a bat out of hell, taking chances that he normally would not take.
As you heard in the clip, there were no avalanches reported that day.
There are plenty of people out I mean he was with a group of
twenty people. No one reported an avalanche. That's not why he didn't get
swept up. He was being a good dude and offered to lost his life,
offering to go ahead and help these people make some memories with this new
camera that I'm sure he was excited about and wanting to check out and show
off, try out for the first time. He was being a good dude,
and then something happened. Obviously, you got a group of twenty people.
If there's a predator out there, they're not gonna mess with twenty people.
They're gonna wait until one separates itself. We've all watched the nature videos.
We've seen it. It's the one that's hanging behind, or the lone
one, or the weak one that gets separated, that's the one that the
predators go after. And this dude separated himself from the rest of the heard,
I guess you could say, and what happened. I think something got
him, he saw something scared the hell a lot of him took off skiing
and went down into this canyon and never came back out. They were able
to get him at that point. That's my thoughts. If you guys have
any other theories, please send them. Inn y'all been doing a really good
job about reaching out to me, and I appreciate that the response I got
from the Yuba County five was amazing. I wish we could talk more about
the Yuba County five. I mean all we can if anybody has anything to
add to it. But and that's just that's heartbreaking at one thing. Before
I go any further on the Jim Carter case, I do want to bring
this up since I brought up the Yuba County five, a lot of you,
since I put this out, a lot of you may have found and
one person in particular did see this and text me and told me about it.
But Netflix has this new docu series that they're doing, The Unexplained Files
or something like that. I started watching it about a week or so before
I did the Yuba County before I even really knew about the Uba County Five.
It was a day that I had away from Scarlett and didn't have much
work to do. As being lazy, I started it on Netflix on my
couch, and, like often enough happens, I doze off and I fell
asleep about halfway through the first episode. And y'all know what happens when you're
binging on Netflix. If you don't have any activity after the third episode,
it will ask you do you want to continue, and if you're asleep or
you're not watching and you don't respond to it, it just cuts off.
So after the third episode, I was asleep and it cut off. But
the third episode, coincidentally enough, was the Yuba County Five. I at
that point had never heard of the Yuba County five. And then all of
a sudden, I'm so intrigued with it, and I'm doing this missing person's
case or a series, and I'm looking up all these missing weird missing person
stories, and I come across the ub Cownty five that just grabs a hold
of me and would not let go. And then I find out later that
I subconsciously, I guess listened to this episode on Netflix. I don't know
if that had anything to do with it, if it was just playing in
my head and I was listening to it unknowingly and then I woke up and
found it. It just intrigued. I don't know, but that that was
weird as hell. But the Unexplained I think it's the Unexplained Followers on Netflix.
That's not where I got the idea for the UBU County five. It
played while I was asleep and then I got up and found it while doing
research on other missing person cases. So I did want to let everybody know
that I didn't get it from Netflix. It's just a huge coincidence that that
came out. But if you are unaware of it, go to Netflix,
go to the Unexplained Files and it's it is episode three, and they do
a really, really good job on it. They brought some stuff to my
attention that I wasn't aware of. The police dropped the ball on that one.
That's that's all there is to it. And again, guys, I'm
not abandoning, abandoning the the case that we're working on right now, but
I did want to touch on this while it was first on my memory.
But you know these guys, these five gentlemen went missing in February. Some
of the family was up there in March. One of the gentlemen, Jack's
dad, was responsible for finding one of them. He was familiar with that
area. He told the police about those trailers, those cabin slash trailers or
whatever they were, and the police told him, no, we don't need
to check there, that's too far. They wouldn't have made it that far.
Well, by God, one of the boys was in there, and
they talked. The family talked about how it has haunted them for years that
they were up there in that area in March, and Theodore was still alive.
He was still alive. While they were up there looking, Jack's dad
told them about the trailer. They wouldn't go. Theodore was laying up there,
still had a few weeks left to live. He could have been saved
the other the one that went missing, Theodore was the one that was in
the bed. And then I forget the one that has been found. He
was probably there with them. So at least two of the five could have
been found alive and would have had answers for what happened to the other guys.
But the police didn't. They didn't follow up for whatever reason, I
don't know. They talked about the R word and how there were reports in
the newspaper about five retarded men go missing. If things were different back then.
You know, nowadays you can get canceled for calling someone retarded because it's
just it's hurtful. You know, you just don't talk like that. But
back then, I mean, that's what was in the press, five retarded
men go missing, And I think that that had a lot to do with
the police not putting a whole lot of effort into finding them. Thinking these
guys were slow anyway, they're not alive, they didn't make it, so
we're just going to drag our fee. I can't say that one hundred percent,
and I don't know, and I can't speak for all law enforcement.
I've talked about it before. I've met so many police officers. I've got
four or five guys right now that follow the show that I consider friends that
are either retired or current law enforcement. I think the world of them.
They do amazing work. I'm not putting down law enforcement at all. I
never would, but something else could have been done in that case. So
guys go and check out Young explained files on Netflix episode three. If you
want to get a little bit more information on the Yuba County five, it's
definitely definitely worth it. But all right, back to the Jim Carter case.
These mountain devils. Man, I'm not sure who the gentleman was that
was played a big part in the search. I forget his name, and
I apologize to that, but he's the one that was quoted and saying the
mountain devil's got him. I feel like they know something. They would have
to have a reason for making that statement. I would think. There's also
the theory. I don't know where you get this. I mean, I
know where you get it, but it just doesn't make a lot of sense
that whatever happened to him happened from the sky. I mean, was it
a pterodactyl flew down and got him a thunderbird? I mean, I don't
understand what you're what it could be. And that theory is there because there
were no tracks. But as the gentleman the clip stated, fresh tracks in
the snow with high winds, they could get blown away, you know you,
And there's no telling. Was there a couple of days later or the
next day that they really really started looking for the guy. So, I
mean those tracks could have been gone. I don't know. But again,
guys, the people that go out there looking, they know what they're doing.
This is not their first rodeo. They did everything that they could in
any time you hear about an agency looking for someone in the Trinny Gibson case,
the poly Melton case, no traces wherever found. That's that's weird,
right, Why the Dennis Martin case, that's a little a six year old
boy, what the hell? I know, he wasn't planning to run away
or making plans to disappear. I mean, he was a six year old
boy. Why haven't Why hasn't anything ever been found? I don't know.
I did listen to a podcast recently about a retired tracker from the Smoky Mountains.
I can't think of his name, McGregor something like that. I'll find
out and let you guys know. But he is retired and he was responsible
for looking for a lot of these these missing people. And I listened to
an interview of his and that dude's awesome. I want if he's still alive.
He's in his seventies. If he is, but I do want to
try to get a hold of him and talk to him, because he talked
about the Dennis Martin case. He was new back then, and he also
talked about the Trenny Gibson case that I've covered, and he said that the
Trenny Gibson case, he remembers very fondly that the dogs had her scent and
was following it until it got to either a road or a parking lot,
and then it stopped. So they are convinced that she was put in a
car and taken off somewhere and that's why she was never found. He was
very confident about that. He said someone took her. She got in a
car and she left. Obviously, we're not saying that she chose to get
in the car and leave. If someone kidnapped her, they would have put
her in a car and taken her, so it probably wasn't voluntarily. But
he said that the dogs lost their scent around a place where she would have
gotten into a car. And he also touched on the Denis Martin case.
And he was out there looking and he was in this area and he started
to smell decomposition, but a body was decomposing and he radioed in to tell
his supervisor or whatever. Remember he had only done this for a few years.
He radioed in to tell them, Hey, this boy's down here.
We're gonna find this boy if we just go down here. And the person
came back and said, no, you don't need to go down there.
I've been down there. I smelled that that's a buzzard. That was a
big buzzard that died, and he was adamant. The tracker was adamant.
He said, no, I've been around big birds that have died. They
don't smell like that. This is a person. This is a human body
that is decomposing down there. But they wouldn't let him go, and he
didn't and he still to this day thinks that that boy's body is down there.
So and I need to find out what I will find out what episode
that was of what show, and I will share it with you guys.
I don't have the information in front of me, but it was provided by
a listener. Well, one of you guys reached out to me and told
me about that interview. And I listened to it and it was great,
it was amazing. But I'll find it and I'll get it to you guys.
But yeah, I mean, I don't want to beat a dead horse.
I don't know what else we can say about this case. I mean,
it's short. Wasn't a whole lot leading up to it. They never
found him. I mean him and a group of twenty friends went skin he
was being a good dude, went ahead a little ways, trying out his
new camera's gonna take pictures of everybody. That didn't happen. He got down
there for whatever reason. When they started skinning down, he wasn't there.
They went on down thinking he must have just went on for some reason and
he wasn't there. Searching sues and they find absolutely nothing. Then you have
the reports of the mountain devils for whatever reason. But yeah, there's not
a whole lot that we can add to that. There's not a whole lot
of theories out there. I certainly would love to hear from you guys.
What do y'all think about it? Definitely let me know if you have anything
else to add to this case. Please let me know if you guys know
of any cases that have bothered you over the years, things that just hasn't
step well with you, that you would like for me to look into and
cover. I would love those suggestions because right now I'm just looking for people
and if y'all have anybody in mind that would help me out, I would
greatly greatly appreciate it. Send those two Wayne at Paranormalworldproductions dot com or if
you're friends with me on Facebook, that's an easy way to get me as
well. But yeah, again, guys, I am really really enjoying doing
these cases and I want to continue, and it seems like you guys would
like for me to continue, but I'll need your help and getting some suggestions,
so please get those coming in until talk to you all again. Gotta
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