1 00:00:01,439 --> 00:00:05,480 I was listening to the story about It was the story of a family in 2 00:00:05,679 --> 00:00:09,320 Washington, and the little boy called the big Foot the cowboy man, and 3 00:00:09,839 --> 00:00:14,560 he had apparently it had made an effort to steal this kid. And it 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:20,879 hit me. My children were in that playpen behind me, were nothing but 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:26,039 a mosquito net over them. It could have crept up behind me and taken 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:34,520 both of my children, and I wouldn't have known. Father just got like 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,399 a Mustang or something from Wyoming, Okay. He had it out in the 8 00:00:38,439 --> 00:00:41,840 corral because he couldn't put it in the barn with the in the stalls, 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,960 with the other horses that would kick and made all the other horses nervous. 10 00:00:45,119 --> 00:00:48,240 Had a seminal Indian work in the horse, trying to break it. Every 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,560 day. They had it out in the corrawn. The skunky snuck up behind 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,840 his horse and grabbed it bonnets, hindquarters. This particular horse that kicks out, 13 00:00:58,039 --> 00:01:00,840 jumps over the corral, runs into the pit, you know, to 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,200 get away. At this point, the ranchers out there just blessed away with 15 00:01:03,319 --> 00:01:11,959 the thirty thirty stun gave us into the slump. I went up there one 16 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,599 day after that or two days after that, I went up there and sat 17 00:01:14,719 --> 00:01:18,319 in the silence up there, and I'm telling you, man, it was 18 00:01:18,439 --> 00:01:21,640 free. It was crazy, you know it was. There was a crazy 19 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,760 vibe up there. Still. I did what I could to kind of get 20 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,120 things out of control. But I told her, I said, you need 21 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:30,920 to get off this proper. I feel like, no matter how strong you 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,000 are, it's almost like standing in the ocean. You can't stand still without 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,760 moving your feet. You're going to get knocked over eventually. No matter how 24 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:49,560 strong whatever, you can't withstand a barrage of of weird spiritual energy. That's 25 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:56,359 Twaine. Welcome back to Paranormal Odyssey, guys. We are continuing our Missing 26 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:01,760 Persons series today with this one. We're gonna be looking into the disappearance of 27 00:02:01,959 --> 00:02:10,639 Jim Carter from the Mount Saint Helen's basically eight Kenyon area. This is another 28 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,560 crazy, crazy one. This dude was a professional skier. This happened in 29 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:23,599 nineteen fifty and he just completely disappeared off of the face of this earth. 30 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:30,439 No sign has been found from him other than an empty camera film case. 31 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:36,680 That will make more sense as you listen. Also, in this one, 32 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:40,680 I'd give a little bit of an update on the Yuba County five episode that 33 00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:45,680 was just released last week. Gotten all kinds of feedback from you, guys. 34 00:02:45,719 --> 00:02:49,879 You really enjoyed that one as much as I did looking into it, 35 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,560 So there is a little bit of an update in this episode as well. 36 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,719 Before we get there, though, guys, if you will please take just 37 00:02:58,759 --> 00:03:02,719 a second go rate review of the show wherever it is you get your podcasts. 38 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,159 If you've got an encounter, I'd like to come on and share it 39 00:03:07,159 --> 00:03:08,680 with me. I would love to talk to you about that. Shoot me 40 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:16,680 an email to Wayne at Paranormalworldproductions dot com. I want to invite everyone to 41 00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:24,439 check out our YouTube channel. Our lives go every Tuesday evening eight pm Eastern 42 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:31,080 and every other Saturday we do an after our show at ten pm. If 43 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,919 you are new over there, please hit that subscribe button and help us to 44 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,439 continue to grow that channel. All right, guys, that's enough of all 45 00:03:39,479 --> 00:03:45,039 of that. I know you're ready, I'm ready. Let's get started. 46 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:57,039 Welcome back to Paranormal Odyssey. Going to be continuing our series that we're doing 47 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:03,719 on missing people. I can't tell you just the outpouring that I've gotten from 48 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:09,199 you guys, wanting to continue these missing person cases. It seems to be 49 00:04:09,719 --> 00:04:15,639 something that we are all very very interested in and I absolutely love looking into 50 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,800 them. So I'm gonna be doing quite a bit more of these, and 51 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:25,160 today today is going to be somewhat Bigfoot related. We're gonna be talking about 52 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:30,000 the disappearance of Jim Carter, or as I've seen in other videos, he 53 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,879 was known as Joe Carter to him as Jim Carter, So that's what we 54 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:42,720 will go with. This happened at Mount Saint Helen's near eight Canyon. People 55 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,399 believe that the mountain devils got him. It's a really really crazy, crazy 56 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:53,480 case. Like always, We're going to play the clip for you and then 57 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:59,000 I will come back on and talk about some possible theories and then offer chance 58 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,639 for you guys to get back to me with any of your theories or on 59 00:05:02,199 --> 00:05:08,199 what you thought possibly may have happened to him. But again, guys, 60 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:14,160 this one is crazy. This guy disappears. This happened in nineteen fifty and 61 00:05:14,399 --> 00:05:16,879 he has never been saying this is not a normal guy. He is. 62 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:23,480 He was a professional skeer. He was great at what he did. And 63 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,399 uh yeah, I'll just let you guys listen to the clip, because they 64 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,879 would do it more justice than I can. Today's clip is going to be 65 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,360 from Mountain Beased Mysteries. If you don't already follow that channel, head over 66 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:39,720 there and give him a sub He does great work over there. Yeah, 67 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,720 we're just gonna jump right in. Today's adventure started off like any other. 68 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,600 You packed up all of your ski equipment. You check the weather, you 69 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,839 check the snow conditions on the mountain, and you called your buddies to let 70 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:51,639 them know you're on your way out to the mountain for one last day of 71 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,199 ski touring to cap off what was a great winter. You get to the 72 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,399 mountain after a beautiful and peaceful drive through the wilderness, and you find your 73 00:05:59,399 --> 00:06:02,000 friends at the meat location. Everyone is in high spirits and everyone is pumped 74 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,160 to ditch the cars and get out into the alpine. In town, you're 75 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,079 a local legend. You work through the winters as a member of the ski 76 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,639 patrol at the local hill. You've conducted mountaineering expeditions all over the Himalayas. 77 00:06:13,879 --> 00:06:16,720 You have a vast knowledge of alpine climbing and ski touring, and people do 78 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,720 you when they want to have a good time In the mountains. They see 79 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:23,839 you as a very talented guide and just a great person to be around. 80 00:06:24,199 --> 00:06:27,240 They trust you with their lives. After getting all geared up, you and 81 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,519 the twenty or so others in your group hit the trail and begin making your 82 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,800 way up the mountain. This isn't just any other mountain, though, This 83 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:40,360 is Mount Saint Helens, a mountain shrouded in mystery. Led the rumors floating 84 00:06:40,399 --> 00:06:44,839 around town of the ape men or the mountain devils that are set to roam 85 00:06:44,959 --> 00:06:47,439 various surrounding Mount Saint Helens, but for the most part, you chalk it 86 00:06:47,519 --> 00:06:53,040 up to be nothing more than that a rumor. There's no way anything like 87 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,360 that could actually exist. To yourself, and let's be honest, you've been 88 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,800 out to this very spot countless times and you've never seen or heard anything out 89 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,319 there in the wilderness to lead you to believe that these apemen or bigfoot creatures 90 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,040 as they're most commonly known, actually exist, let alone be credited with the 91 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,120 violent attack of a group of prospectors back in the nineteen twenties. You put 92 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,560 all these thoughts in the back of your mind and focus on the rest of 93 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,160 the climb and spending time with your friends. The day is young and there's 94 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,240 still so much adventure yet to come. You and your buddies make it to 95 00:07:20,279 --> 00:07:24,360 the top of the snow covered peak. It's late spring and this is the 96 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:27,839 only part of the mountain that still has snow. Talk about late season. 97 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:30,480 You get the great idea to put your new thirty five millimeter camera to the 98 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,319 test by recommending to your friends that you should ski down first and then set 99 00:07:34,399 --> 00:07:38,800 up the camera to get some good action shots of everybody else skiing down. 100 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,480 What a better way to make memories than to literally freeze them in time and 101 00:07:42,519 --> 00:07:46,160 put them in an album to cherish well into the future. Everyone is excited 102 00:07:46,199 --> 00:07:48,480 about the idea and you send you on your way. What you don't realize, 103 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,399 though, is that this is literally the last time you would see any 104 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:56,680 of your friends, or anyone else for that matter. This is the day 105 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:16,560 that you disappear forever. Hey, everyone, welcome to Mountain Beast Mysteries. 106 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,360 In today's video, we're going to be talking about the strange disappearance of Jim 107 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:24,079 Carter. Jim Carter disappeared back in nineteen fifty in the month of May. 108 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,120 He was a professional skier, professional alpinist, who was really well known, 109 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,279 had an incredible skill set in the mountains. He was well trained, he 110 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:37,240 knew what he was doing, and for some reason, in late May of 111 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:41,360 that year, he went missing while on a ski trip with like twenty other 112 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,240 people. Very peculiar circumstances too, that he went missing under He just vanished 113 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,840 after a massive two week search, you know, sometimes involving up to seventy 114 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:54,879 five people. So the question is how did Jim disappear? Now, the 115 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:58,440 interesting thing is that Jim went missing in what is called Ape Canyon. And 116 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,440 we know about Ape Canyon here in the bigfoot world because it's the site of 117 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,639 the famous Ape Canyon incident where a bunch of prospectors were attacked in their cabin 118 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:11,000 by multiple rock throwing bigfoot creatures and they just barely made it through the night 119 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,399 and then got out of there in a hurry. It's one of the most 120 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,000 famous bigfoot stories out there. Is it related to this story, the story 121 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,639 of Jim Carter and his bizarre disappearance. Possibly? We have lots of bigfoot 122 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,320 stories that come out of the Mount Saint Helen's region, just like we talked 123 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,519 about in the last video. But before I share my thoughts on this story. 124 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,519 Let's get into what actually happened. I'll go over an article here that 125 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:43,000 was first published back in nineteen sixty three The Longview Washington Times, August nineteen 126 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:48,360 sixty three. Ape Canyon, the legendary home of the Harry Apes of Mount 127 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:54,799 Saint Helen's, apparently swallowed an experienced mountaineer and expert skier. In May of 128 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:58,039 nineteen fifty, no trace of Jim Carter, thirty two, who disappeared from 129 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,759 a twenty member client coming party from Seattle, was found. Although teams of 130 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:07,240 the Northwest's most proficient mountain rescue units combed to the area for weeks. Carter's 131 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,639 complete disappearance is an unsolved mystery to this day, declared Bob Lee, a 132 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:16,559 well known Portland mountaineer who is a member of the exclusive Worldwide Alpine Club, 133 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:22,240 a leader of the nineteen sixty one Himalayan Expedition and advisor to the nineteen sixty 134 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,200 three American Expedition, Lee said he had never seen one of the monsters, 135 00:10:26,519 --> 00:10:31,960 but that there certainly was evidence that there was something strange on the high slopes 136 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,279 of the mountain. He said he was convinced of this during the search for 137 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:39,120 Carter, Doctor Otto Trot, Lee Stark, and myself finally came to the 138 00:10:39,159 --> 00:10:43,879 conclusion that the mountain devils got him, said Lee seriously. Lee, a 139 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,320 member of the Seattle Mountain Search and Rescue Unit at the time, describes the 140 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:52,559 hunt for Carter and Abe Canyon as the most eerie experience I have ever had. 141 00:10:52,039 --> 00:10:54,480 He said that every time he got cut off from the rest of the 142 00:10:54,519 --> 00:11:00,000 searchers during the long hunt, he got a feeling that somebody was watching him. 143 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,679 I could feel the hair on my neck standing up. It was eerie. 144 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,559 I was unarmed except for my ice axe, and believe me, I 145 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:09,840 never let go of that. At this point in Lee's story, I could 146 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:13,840 feel my own hair standing up a bit, ready to shoulder packs for SAPARi 147 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:18,080 to Ape Canyon to try and determine whether there is any truth to the Ape 148 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,240 stories. I began to feel a little dubious about the whole expedition. The 149 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:26,480 rest of Lee's tales above the Seattle Man's disappearance didn't do much to reassure me. 150 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:30,080 It seemed that the missing man, Carter, had climbed Mount Saint Helen's 151 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:33,480 with the group from Seattle on a warm, clear Sunday. On the way 152 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:35,919 down the mountain, he left the other climbers near a landmark called Dog's Head 153 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,600 at the eight thousand foot level. Carter told them he would ski around to 154 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,440 the left and take a picture of the group as they skied down to the 155 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,279 timberline. That was the last time that anyone had seen Carter. The next 156 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,919 morning, searchers found a discarded film box at the point where he had taken 157 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:54,639 a picture. From there, Carter eventually took off down the mountain in a 158 00:11:54,639 --> 00:11:58,360 wild, death defying dash, taking chances that no skier of his caliber would 159 00:11:58,399 --> 00:12:03,320 takes something was terribly wrong or he was being pursued, says Lee, who 160 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,320 was one of the first searchers to reach Carter's ski tracks. He jumped over 161 00:12:07,399 --> 00:12:13,519 two or three large crevasses and evidently was going like the devil. When Carter's 162 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,120 tracks reached the precipitous sides of Ape Canyon, the searchers were amazed to see 163 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:22,320 that Carter had been in such a hurry that he went right down the steep 164 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:26,080 canyon walls, but they didn't find him at the bottom of the canyon as 165 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,639 they expected. We combed the canyon one end to the other, for five 166 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,879 days. Sometimes there were as many as seventy five persons in the search party, 167 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,799 but no sign of Carter or his equipment was found. Lee says after 168 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,120 two weeks the search was called off. Lee, who has lived in the 169 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:46,279 Northwest most of his life, recalls that there are about twenty five different reports 170 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:50,360 of people being attacked by ape like men in the mount Saint Helens and Cascade 171 00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:54,600 areas over a twenty year period. One was a group of Boy Scouts from 172 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Centralia, he said, as near as he could remember, several of the 173 00:12:58,039 --> 00:13:01,480 boys who were taken off the mountain or hysterical after being attacked by the mountain 174 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:07,559 devils. Director Dick Whitney of the Regional Boy Scout Office of Olympia, Washington, 175 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:11,200 promised to look for a record of the incident. To our surprise, 176 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,519 he called back to say that he had located the name of the leader of 177 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:18,360 the troop involved in the incident. It was a troop under the late Scoutmaster 178 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,679 Peas from Centralia, he said. Whitney promised to have Pease's son, who 179 00:13:22,759 --> 00:13:26,200 worked for the State of Washington, called the journal as soon as he returns 180 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:31,960 from vacation. Very strange, strange story This guy had lots of experience in 181 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:35,480 the outdoors, in the alpine and on skis. Like he knew it, 182 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,240 his friends knew it. They didn't think there was anything really to worry about. 183 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:41,480 And it's interesting to hear what the search and rescue people say. They 184 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:46,919 were extremely creeped out and always had that feeling that they were being watched while 185 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,679 they were searching for him. It's weird. He essentially fell right into Ape 186 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:56,960 Canyon, you know, right there where this crazy event happened back in nineteen 187 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:01,399 twenty four, one of the most famous big foot stories out there, one 188 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:05,480 of the few bigfoot stories where these creatures have been documented, you know, 189 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:11,720 attacking people and actually having a crazy altercation where the people are shooting at them. 190 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,080 You know, is it a coincidence that this guy went missing right where 191 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,279 that happened. This guy was frantically trying to get down the mountain and there 192 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,120 was no sign of avalanches, you know, and his friends that were looking 193 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,759 for him, they couldn't find any signs of anything really strange happening other than 194 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,519 that it appeared that he was trying to get away from something. You know. 195 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,840 The weird thing is, though, is that no bigfoot like tracks were 196 00:14:35,879 --> 00:14:39,360 spotted. When you're up there on a mountain like that and the wind is 197 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:41,960 blowing, it doesn't take long for tracks beet covered up, So there could 198 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,080 have been tracks there, maybe they just didn't see them, but they followed 199 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,879 his ski tracks. They saw that he had skied over like a big crevasse, 200 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,919 and you know, that's a very like, that's kind of a daredevil 201 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,000 move, you know, very very dangerous, very high risk, and eventually 202 00:14:56,039 --> 00:15:01,759 skied apparently off into the canyon to never be found again. And there was 203 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:03,360 a lot of effort put into trying to find him. There's a lot of 204 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,960 people involved, and it's just weird, you know, that he vanished in 205 00:15:09,039 --> 00:15:11,360 that way, because you would think that all they would have to do is 206 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:15,559 follow the tracks and that would lead them to his body, but it didn't. 207 00:15:15,679 --> 00:15:18,279 You're kind of like pinpointing exactly where he should be and he should be 208 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,720 there, and he's not. He's just gone and the body has never been 209 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:28,480 found. And that happened, you know, over seventy years ago, so 210 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:33,399 it's likely obviously now that his remains probably won't ever be found. It's not 211 00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:37,159 impossible, but highly highly unlikely. And you know, if the ape Canyon 212 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,840 story is true, then there are some sort of violent ape like beings out 213 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:46,000 there. And you know, after an incident like that where you know, 214 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,600 these prospectors shot at them and they had this little battle throughout the night. 215 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,799 After an incident like that, you would think that they might be angry. 216 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:56,360 And back in nineteen fifty, this was only twenty six years after that, 217 00:15:56,799 --> 00:16:00,240 you know, it's not seventy years like nowadays. It's it was a little 218 00:16:00,279 --> 00:16:04,919 more fresh in people's memories, a little more fresh in the history of Bigfoot. 219 00:16:06,279 --> 00:16:08,399 It's just a very very strange story. It's one of the stories where 220 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:12,399 you think, really like, this guy should have been found, you know, 221 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,399 the way they searched the area, and just the amount of skill that 222 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:21,000 these people had. They were highly trained search and rescue people and they can 223 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,679 find them. And there was like seventy five people looking for him at one 224 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:29,480 point, so eventually they just called off the search. They did find, 225 00:16:29,679 --> 00:16:32,279 you know, the little box from the role of film that he had put 226 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,879 in his camera, and that's about it. You know, it would be 227 00:16:34,919 --> 00:16:41,159 really interesting if that camera was found, you know, and maybe the film 228 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,440 was in it still and maybe it was preserved and some images were recorded on 229 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,799 it mysterious images, maybe images of Bigfoot, who knows. It kind of 230 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:52,879 reminds me of the Deal Love Pass incident. It's a story about a group 231 00:16:52,919 --> 00:16:56,840 of skiers who took off into the mountains for you know, however many days, 232 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,440 and they all died and nobody really knows how. But they had cameras 233 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,920 with them. They were documenting their trip and some of the photos are very 234 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:11,880 mysterious. But you know, the story hasn't really been solved yet. The 235 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,160 case hasn't been solved. They don't know what exactly happened. A lot of 236 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,799 people like to think it was like a yetty creature. A lot of people 237 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,680 like to think it was military experiments things of that nature. But there hasn't 238 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:29,839 been any definitive conclusion as to what happened with the dlof Pass incident, and 239 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,759 the same with this story. Will probably never find out and it'll be a 240 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:45,559 mystery forever. Stay tuned for more paranormal odyssey. I guess there you have 241 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:52,480 it again. That clip is cartsy of Mountain Beefed Mysteries. And again, 242 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:56,400 guys, that's a really cool channel over there. Puts in a lot of 243 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,240 time and y'all go check it out, give him a sub and to follow 244 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:07,720 all of that good stuff. I mean, where do we start. I 245 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,599 think I'm going to start off, you know, echoing what he just said. 246 00:18:11,799 --> 00:18:17,319 The people that look for him, I mean, these aren't just volunteer 247 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:23,160 workers. I mean these are trained search and rescue people that go out and 248 00:18:23,279 --> 00:18:27,880 have a good, a very very high success rate in finding people, not 249 00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:34,119 always finding him alive, but finding them. No trace of this dude other 250 00:18:34,319 --> 00:18:41,319 than the film box was ever found. Why what kept these people from doing 251 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:48,680 their job successfully? I don't know, man. I if y'all can think 252 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:55,200 of anything other than him being grabbed by something and carried off, then let 253 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,839 me know, because I can't think of anything. First off, you talk 254 00:18:57,839 --> 00:19:06,599 about where it happened at one of the most legendary big Foot encounter citing areas 255 00:19:06,799 --> 00:19:11,599 ever in the world, not Ape Canyon, where this crazy event happened to 256 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:17,920 these prospectors back in the twenties. I think most all of us agree, 257 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,680 well, the majority of us agree that it actually happened. I certainly think 258 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,799 that it actually happened. And you throw on top of that all the other 259 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,079 reports in the area since then, and the gentleman in this clip just spoke 260 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:37,680 about people being attacked by what they are calling mountain devils. This dude saw 261 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:42,480 something, something scared the hell out of him, and he took off skiing 262 00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:47,880 like a bat out of hell, taking chances that he normally would not take. 263 00:19:48,039 --> 00:19:52,480 As you heard in the clip, there were no avalanches reported that day. 264 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:55,799 There are plenty of people out I mean he was with a group of 265 00:19:55,839 --> 00:20:00,480 twenty people. No one reported an avalanche. That's not why he didn't get 266 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:08,680 swept up. He was being a good dude and offered to lost his life, 267 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,960 offering to go ahead and help these people make some memories with this new 268 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,039 camera that I'm sure he was excited about and wanting to check out and show 269 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,119 off, try out for the first time. He was being a good dude, 270 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:29,920 and then something happened. Obviously, you got a group of twenty people. 271 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,000 If there's a predator out there, they're not gonna mess with twenty people. 272 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:38,720 They're gonna wait until one separates itself. We've all watched the nature videos. 273 00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:45,920 We've seen it. It's the one that's hanging behind, or the lone 274 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,160 one, or the weak one that gets separated, that's the one that the 275 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:55,440 predators go after. And this dude separated himself from the rest of the heard, 276 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,960 I guess you could say, and what happened. I think something got 277 00:21:00,039 --> 00:21:04,599 him, he saw something scared the hell a lot of him took off skiing 278 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,599 and went down into this canyon and never came back out. They were able 279 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,559 to get him at that point. That's my thoughts. If you guys have 280 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,440 any other theories, please send them. Inn y'all been doing a really good 281 00:21:19,519 --> 00:21:23,200 job about reaching out to me, and I appreciate that the response I got 282 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:30,839 from the Yuba County five was amazing. I wish we could talk more about 283 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,839 the Yuba County five. I mean all we can if anybody has anything to 284 00:21:33,839 --> 00:21:40,960 add to it. But and that's just that's heartbreaking at one thing. Before 285 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:48,119 I go any further on the Jim Carter case, I do want to bring 286 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,440 this up since I brought up the Yuba County five, a lot of you, 287 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:56,440 since I put this out, a lot of you may have found and 288 00:21:56,519 --> 00:22:02,200 one person in particular did see this and text me and told me about it. 289 00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:07,359 But Netflix has this new docu series that they're doing, The Unexplained Files 290 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:12,920 or something like that. I started watching it about a week or so before 291 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:18,440 I did the Yuba County before I even really knew about the Uba County Five. 292 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,119 It was a day that I had away from Scarlett and didn't have much 293 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,480 work to do. As being lazy, I started it on Netflix on my 294 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:32,640 couch, and, like often enough happens, I doze off and I fell 295 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,359 asleep about halfway through the first episode. And y'all know what happens when you're 296 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:44,680 binging on Netflix. If you don't have any activity after the third episode, 297 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,480 it will ask you do you want to continue, and if you're asleep or 298 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:52,319 you're not watching and you don't respond to it, it just cuts off. 299 00:22:53,119 --> 00:23:00,720 So after the third episode, I was asleep and it cut off. But 300 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:08,000 the third episode, coincidentally enough, was the Yuba County Five. I at 301 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,920 that point had never heard of the Yuba County five. And then all of 302 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,200 a sudden, I'm so intrigued with it, and I'm doing this missing person's 303 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:22,519 case or a series, and I'm looking up all these missing weird missing person 304 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,680 stories, and I come across the ub Cownty five that just grabs a hold 305 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,799 of me and would not let go. And then I find out later that 306 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:40,359 I subconsciously, I guess listened to this episode on Netflix. I don't know 307 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,799 if that had anything to do with it, if it was just playing in 308 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:48,920 my head and I was listening to it unknowingly and then I woke up and 309 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,599 found it. It just intrigued. I don't know, but that that was 310 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,839 weird as hell. But the Unexplained I think it's the Unexplained Followers on Netflix. 311 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,000 That's not where I got the idea for the UBU County five. It 312 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,839 played while I was asleep and then I got up and found it while doing 313 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,079 research on other missing person cases. So I did want to let everybody know 314 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,599 that I didn't get it from Netflix. It's just a huge coincidence that that 315 00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:21,000 came out. But if you are unaware of it, go to Netflix, 316 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,359 go to the Unexplained Files and it's it is episode three, and they do 317 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,559 a really, really good job on it. They brought some stuff to my 318 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:37,319 attention that I wasn't aware of. The police dropped the ball on that one. 319 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,240 That's that's all there is to it. And again, guys, I'm 320 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:45,119 not abandoning, abandoning the the case that we're working on right now, but 321 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,519 I did want to touch on this while it was first on my memory. 322 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:56,279 But you know these guys, these five gentlemen went missing in February. Some 323 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,680 of the family was up there in March. One of the gentlemen, Jack's 324 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,799 dad, was responsible for finding one of them. He was familiar with that 325 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,640 area. He told the police about those trailers, those cabin slash trailers or 326 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,960 whatever they were, and the police told him, no, we don't need 327 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,160 to check there, that's too far. They wouldn't have made it that far. 328 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:25,480 Well, by God, one of the boys was in there, and 329 00:25:25,519 --> 00:25:30,279 they talked. The family talked about how it has haunted them for years that 330 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,200 they were up there in that area in March, and Theodore was still alive. 331 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,160 He was still alive. While they were up there looking, Jack's dad 332 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:47,279 told them about the trailer. They wouldn't go. Theodore was laying up there, 333 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,000 still had a few weeks left to live. He could have been saved 334 00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:56,759 the other the one that went missing, Theodore was the one that was in 335 00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:00,039 the bed. And then I forget the one that has been found. He 336 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,960 was probably there with them. So at least two of the five could have 337 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:10,880 been found alive and would have had answers for what happened to the other guys. 338 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:17,279 But the police didn't. They didn't follow up for whatever reason, I 339 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:23,559 don't know. They talked about the R word and how there were reports in 340 00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:32,720 the newspaper about five retarded men go missing. If things were different back then. 341 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,880 You know, nowadays you can get canceled for calling someone retarded because it's 342 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,960 just it's hurtful. You know, you just don't talk like that. But 343 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,039 back then, I mean, that's what was in the press, five retarded 344 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:52,079 men go missing, And I think that that had a lot to do with 345 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,319 the police not putting a whole lot of effort into finding them. Thinking these 346 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,480 guys were slow anyway, they're not alive, they didn't make it, so 347 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,160 we're just going to drag our fee. I can't say that one hundred percent, 348 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,240 and I don't know, and I can't speak for all law enforcement. 349 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,960 I've talked about it before. I've met so many police officers. I've got 350 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,400 four or five guys right now that follow the show that I consider friends that 351 00:27:19,839 --> 00:27:25,920 are either retired or current law enforcement. I think the world of them. 352 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,839 They do amazing work. I'm not putting down law enforcement at all. I 353 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:37,359 never would, but something else could have been done in that case. So 354 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,799 guys go and check out Young explained files on Netflix episode three. If you 355 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:48,920 want to get a little bit more information on the Yuba County five, it's 356 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:55,480 definitely definitely worth it. But all right, back to the Jim Carter case. 357 00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:03,119 These mountain devils. Man, I'm not sure who the gentleman was that 358 00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:07,559 was played a big part in the search. I forget his name, and 359 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:11,160 I apologize to that, but he's the one that was quoted and saying the 360 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:18,400 mountain devil's got him. I feel like they know something. They would have 361 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,359 to have a reason for making that statement. I would think. There's also 362 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,160 the theory. I don't know where you get this. I mean, I 363 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,480 know where you get it, but it just doesn't make a lot of sense 364 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,759 that whatever happened to him happened from the sky. I mean, was it 365 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:40,440 a pterodactyl flew down and got him a thunderbird? I mean, I don't 366 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:48,240 understand what you're what it could be. And that theory is there because there 367 00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:55,279 were no tracks. But as the gentleman the clip stated, fresh tracks in 368 00:28:55,400 --> 00:29:00,000 the snow with high winds, they could get blown away, you know you, 369 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,160 And there's no telling. Was there a couple of days later or the 370 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,160 next day that they really really started looking for the guy. So, I 371 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,559 mean those tracks could have been gone. I don't know. But again, 372 00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:17,039 guys, the people that go out there looking, they know what they're doing. 373 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:22,680 This is not their first rodeo. They did everything that they could in 374 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:27,599 any time you hear about an agency looking for someone in the Trinny Gibson case, 375 00:29:29,279 --> 00:29:36,799 the poly Melton case, no traces wherever found. That's that's weird, 376 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,160 right, Why the Dennis Martin case, that's a little a six year old 377 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:48,839 boy, what the hell? I know, he wasn't planning to run away 378 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,559 or making plans to disappear. I mean, he was a six year old 379 00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:57,519 boy. Why haven't Why hasn't anything ever been found? I don't know. 380 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:07,920 I did listen to a podcast recently about a retired tracker from the Smoky Mountains. 381 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:14,240 I can't think of his name, McGregor something like that. I'll find 382 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:17,799 out and let you guys know. But he is retired and he was responsible 383 00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:22,359 for looking for a lot of these these missing people. And I listened to 384 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,839 an interview of his and that dude's awesome. I want if he's still alive. 385 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,559 He's in his seventies. If he is, but I do want to 386 00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:32,519 try to get a hold of him and talk to him, because he talked 387 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:37,480 about the Dennis Martin case. He was new back then, and he also 388 00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:42,359 talked about the Trenny Gibson case that I've covered, and he said that the 389 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:51,759 Trenny Gibson case, he remembers very fondly that the dogs had her scent and 390 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,160 was following it until it got to either a road or a parking lot, 391 00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:00,000 and then it stopped. So they are convinced that she was put in a 392 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:07,279 car and taken off somewhere and that's why she was never found. He was 393 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,839 very confident about that. He said someone took her. She got in a 394 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:18,359 car and she left. Obviously, we're not saying that she chose to get 395 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,880 in the car and leave. If someone kidnapped her, they would have put 396 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,119 her in a car and taken her, so it probably wasn't voluntarily. But 397 00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:33,680 he said that the dogs lost their scent around a place where she would have 398 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,440 gotten into a car. And he also touched on the Denis Martin case. 399 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,319 And he was out there looking and he was in this area and he started 400 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:56,039 to smell decomposition, but a body was decomposing and he radioed in to tell 401 00:31:56,119 --> 00:31:59,920 his supervisor or whatever. Remember he had only done this for a few years. 402 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,759 He radioed in to tell them, Hey, this boy's down here. 403 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,240 We're gonna find this boy if we just go down here. And the person 404 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:12,640 came back and said, no, you don't need to go down there. 405 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,160 I've been down there. I smelled that that's a buzzard. That was a 406 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:22,960 big buzzard that died, and he was adamant. The tracker was adamant. 407 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920 He said, no, I've been around big birds that have died. They 408 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,240 don't smell like that. This is a person. This is a human body 409 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,119 that is decomposing down there. But they wouldn't let him go, and he 410 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:42,319 didn't and he still to this day thinks that that boy's body is down there. 411 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,119 So and I need to find out what I will find out what episode 412 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,759 that was of what show, and I will share it with you guys. 413 00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:54,640 I don't have the information in front of me, but it was provided by 414 00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:59,279 a listener. Well, one of you guys reached out to me and told 415 00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:02,640 me about that interview. And I listened to it and it was great, 416 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:07,240 it was amazing. But I'll find it and I'll get it to you guys. 417 00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:12,119 But yeah, I mean, I don't want to beat a dead horse. 418 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,039 I don't know what else we can say about this case. I mean, 419 00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:22,759 it's short. Wasn't a whole lot leading up to it. They never 420 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:27,920 found him. I mean him and a group of twenty friends went skin he 421 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,440 was being a good dude, went ahead a little ways, trying out his 422 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:37,440 new camera's gonna take pictures of everybody. That didn't happen. He got down 423 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,400 there for whatever reason. When they started skinning down, he wasn't there. 424 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:45,079 They went on down thinking he must have just went on for some reason and 425 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:52,400 he wasn't there. Searching sues and they find absolutely nothing. Then you have 426 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:59,000 the reports of the mountain devils for whatever reason. But yeah, there's not 427 00:33:59,079 --> 00:34:01,359 a whole lot that we can add to that. There's not a whole lot 428 00:34:01,359 --> 00:34:06,359 of theories out there. I certainly would love to hear from you guys. 429 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,159 What do y'all think about it? Definitely let me know if you have anything 430 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:15,519 else to add to this case. Please let me know if you guys know 431 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:21,559 of any cases that have bothered you over the years, things that just hasn't 432 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,079 step well with you, that you would like for me to look into and 433 00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:30,519 cover. I would love those suggestions because right now I'm just looking for people 434 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:35,280 and if y'all have anybody in mind that would help me out, I would 435 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:43,199 greatly greatly appreciate it. Send those two Wayne at Paranormalworldproductions dot com or if 436 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,039 you're friends with me on Facebook, that's an easy way to get me as 437 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:52,920 well. But yeah, again, guys, I am really really enjoying doing 438 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,599 these cases and I want to continue, and it seems like you guys would 439 00:34:57,679 --> 00:35:01,199 like for me to continue, but I'll need your help and getting some suggestions, 440 00:35:01,199 --> 00:35:07,559 so please get those coming in until talk to you all again. Gotta 441 00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:13,960 take care of yourselves and take care of each other. Bye. 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