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Scout, I swear to God.
Hey everybody, it's December twelfth, twenty

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twenty three. How did we get
this far so fast? Welcome to the

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Giant BombCast powered by n z XT. I am your host, jan Oh

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Choa, joining me co captain of
the ship. He's on a sub slowly

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heading towards you, slowly but steady. He can stay underwater for months at

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a time thanks to nuclear power.
Jeff grub Welcome everybody. It's time for

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Pandora Watch twenty twenty three. The
avatars are here. Get out your Jake

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Sully's number one foam hands. Put
him in here. I want to see

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him. We got our own beautiful
blue person. He's he's blue. He's

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beautiful. Abud Abu day. We
got Mike Manavi in the house. I'm

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Mike Manavi. I won't sing the
entire song this time, just because you

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brought it up. Thank you,
Mike, Thank you Mike. And of

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course still still some say he's still
sleeping right now, still standing up our

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own sleeping beauty, the Aurora of
the Giant Bomb Team. Jeff Backlar,

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that's true. People say that about
me. I bet you sleep really nice.

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I bet so. Sometimes I'll wake
up. And my wife says,

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I took pictures of you again?
What what I can tell you exactly how

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much? How well I sleep?
Well? Yeah, I got a picture.

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I got a picture of This is
not meant to be creepy, even

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though the potential for creepy is there. Uh uh. We were at the

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fandom LA office for hour whittling down
and there were some production hiccups that we

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had iron out, and Lucy goes, I'm gonna go to sleep on that

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couch and I'm like, you can't
fall asleep on that couch and she's like,

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watch me. And not thirty five
seconds later was this person zonked out

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on a couch in the middle of
an open area office. I could not

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believe it. I believe it.
And I took a photo. Eat your

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hand if you took a picture of
someone sleeping or in bed this past week.

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Yeah, most she took a picture
of me sleeping, because you know

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what, I took a picture.
I took a selfie of us in bed.

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I'm counting that's fine. I took
a picture of Jeff grubbsleep. Huh.

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I woke up on Oh yeah,
look at that, there's me doing

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the business. Now. I almost
took a picture of a Dan sleeping while

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we were watching Godzilla Minus one,
but you know, we were in the

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middle of a moony everyone. If
you want to like save your sanity,

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don't ask Dan about Godzilla mouse one. Just just save yourself. Yeah,

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it's as a Remember he did not
like the Batman, so it's par for

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the course he did. He did
not realize that the main character of Godzilla

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minas one was a Kamakazi pilot.
So that's that's where we're at with Dan.

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Just you watch the well, you
watch most of the seplace. I

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don't know, I mean yourself.
He definitely deserves ship. Like we're not

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saying. We're not saying, don't
make fun of him for falling asleep in

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a movie, Like yeah, yeah, hey, well I'm asleep too.

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But I was very, very sleepy, Jane, I told you, And

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hey, if I start storing,
wake me up, and I'm halfway through,

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I feel an elbow. I'm like, oh it happened, Okay,

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and then I woke up and I
was good. Why would you have all

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fallen asleep? There's no reason.
It makes no sense. Hey, we're

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all back from Los Angeles. How
do you. How does everyone feel.

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We did the Game of the Year, we did the live show, we

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did GB at night. I feel
good. That's fine. Anyways, I

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can never fall asleep during movie.
This guy just can't do it. It's

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like a no end and it's great. It's like, yeah, yes,

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but what about or know what about
Mike Manatti. That's exactly what I we

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go. That's a new improv thing. Yeah, no, no, but

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Mike. But but yeah, let's
start an improv comedy troupe and not explain

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who Mike Manatti is. Uh huh. I feel very good. I had

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a great It was a great week. It was a lot of fun.

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By the end of the week,
I couldn't speak anymore, but that was

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fine. It was still a good
time. I felt so bad trying to

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talk to Jeff as we were like
in the airport getting on our flight back

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home. He dropped two things during
breakfast and voice was nothing. He was

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he's so sleepy. He ordered a
double express so and I was almost gonna

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be like, how are you gonna
fall asleep on the plane, And then

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I was like, he's gonna have
no problem. I had no problem.

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I fell asleep right away. Yeah, yeah, instant teleportation on that plane

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right back, it was the best. Literally long asleep before takeoff being woken

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up by the landing. Beautiful,
Or you did sleep on this plane right?

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Wait a second, I yeah,
I do want to circle back on

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that. But you fell asleep before
takeoff. I have like some vague memories

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of like this story for a second, be like, oh, we must

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be in the air now, and
then going back to bed. Yeah beautiful.

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Yeah. So I wound up taking
a red eye on Saturday night because

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there was a storm coming into the
New York City area that I was worried

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was gonna like, yeah that I
was worried that like it was somehow going

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to keep me in LA. And
let me tell you, I can only

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be in Los Angeles for a finite
amount. Okay, we had expired our

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due date in Los Angeles for sure. Yeah, the expiration date depended on

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my site on my side was rapidly
approaching and I had to get at a

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dodge. I moved up my flight
and by the way, this was also

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the fastest I've ever made it through
an airport. I left you guys at

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what like like ten thirty I think, Yeah, I was sitting at the

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gate at so it takes Jeff.
Oh, oh, what happened? Is

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it just me? Wait? What's
going on? Oh? No? Oh?

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Is it everyone? Oh? Oh, oh my god, what happened?

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Hello? Everybody? Oh god,
I'm wrong everyone again for a second,

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it happened to everybody? Right?
Does that just discord? My internet

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was still working? Was working?
You guys? Throw all of you froze

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for me at the same time.
I think that's a discord if you can

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talk on. Is this the big
one? Well, I'm glad it could

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be with you guys. Come on, let's bring it in. Yeah,

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all right, all right? Where
was I? Where was you were?

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Yeah? You got to the gate
ro early. I got it. Yeah,

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it was. It was incredible.
Again, have you ever have you

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ever gone to the TSA and and
you see nothing like? It was like

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that for Jeff and I because we
got we had a very early flight,

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so it was, oh my god, oh, so completely empty. I

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I pre checked and I went through
and I'm like, I'm like, oh,

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I got through so fast. Like
I just joked like you'll probably get

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through before me. But no,
I'm like, no, I got pre

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check. And I turned around.
He's like right there. So I like,

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did you guys have to separate?
That's pretty we had different classes,

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sucker, Yeah it was. It
was amazing. I had the whole road

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to myself on this flight, and
you know, I did fall asleep for

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like good chunks out of time.
It wasn't like a straightaway because it was

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also a pretty turbulent flight, and
I was just sort of like rock back

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and forth in my own little Yeah. It was fine, Like that doesn't

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turbulence doesn't bother me. It's very
normal. But I just I just like

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couldn't. I obviously it's a cliche. I realized, like it's impossible to

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get comfortable in one of those seats, but like I was deeply uncomfortable.

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I like, I don't know what
to do with my arms. I'm gont

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know what to do with my plans
for you guys. You guys, everyone

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on like seven thirty seven was on
the Airbus. Air Bus. Was it

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like one of the bigger airbuses because
those are super comfortable. So like in

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terms of like the atmosphere and stuff, I mean, the plane's fine,

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it's just the seat. Like I
you know, I got spoiled last year

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getting to go on the whatever the
United first classes, I forget what's called

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right, yeah, and that was
unbelievable with the lay flat seat and you

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just you just go to bed.
Like if I had that, I would

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have been well, of course I
would have got out. Yeah, I

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get my one of those like neck
pillows, and if you get I get

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a window seats. I can lean
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usually enough. Okay, okay,
I need advice. This is this already

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happened to me. But on the
way down to Los Angeles, I put

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all my stuff in the trays.
They made me take out all the electronics,

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and then on one of my trays
is a neck pillow that I didn't

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bring. It's not mine, It's
suddenly there and then I like hold it

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up and I'm looking around like is
this yours? Is yours? Is it

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yours? The TSI TSA guy goes
like, well, serious, now,

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man, like you don't have a
lost and found, I just should take

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it. Anyways, I don't think
it should be. I think that that

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fellow is officially suspicious, like right, and that like I what I asked

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about a lost and found, he
just went and then he like lumbered away

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I'm like, Okay, we're gonna
put this in the middle here so everyone

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can see, and then I'm gonna
walk away, should take it or thrown

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it in the trash the loss of
founds only for the guns and knives.

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I guess maybe that's right. Yeah. I think I've left something on the

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plane once and then they like went
and got it for me. Uh wow,

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they wouldn't let me go back in. That was a long time ago.

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Uh but yeah, I can't imagine
it's worth anyone's time to have like

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a real lost and found that plane's
going places. Just yeah, that's that's

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someone else's responsibility now. I don't
know about you guys, but I do

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have a lot of anxiety when I
go through like TSA stuff, mostly like

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oh, did I forget an electronic
in my bag? Sure are they're gonna

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find something on me because they always
swabbed me every single time. They didn't

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do that to me. Yeah.
The one the other time they did that

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to me is when I like,
I actually did forget a knife in my

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bag and they're like check it real
quick, and then they almost gave it

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back to me, and someone's like, uh no, trustworthy that this seems

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like a swell guy like they did
the family guy thing of like look at

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the shade of light trustworthy. Yeah, I do have my bag still and

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have for the last few times.
I've flown a little multi tool like credit

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card thing. Sure, and it's
got like ridges and on the extra I

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could see it. It always looks
like it's got serrated edges, so it

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looks like and they're like always like, and I like look, and I'm

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like, you could just look at
it real quick. And as soon as

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I see that, they're like,
oh, whatever, okay, just let

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it through and yeah, but uh, I have not been stopped in quite

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some time. But I had the
most anxiety this time going back home because

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John Luke and I were in the
same flight, so we just roll together.

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But John Luke took the Ichi bond
and crry you cardboard cutouts and then

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the whole time I'm looking at them, I'm like, are you nervous at

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all? Like what if they make
us throw it away? Like we loved

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it all here and the whole time, bless John Luke. John Luke is

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the calmest person in the world.
They were like, no, it's fine,

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it's cool. I'm like, do
you want to check it in?

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Nah? It's fine. I'm like, okay, do you want to check

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in one of your bags so you
can just hold on to the cardboard cutouts?

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Nah? So we get through security
at that, like you know,

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like here I am throwing out all
of my stuff onto the trays. I'm

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looking at John Luke. You're gonna
try and stick it onto the tray?

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Nah? John Luke just heads it
to the person at the TSA. And

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then we watched TSA like gently swab
Ichi Bun's face and then curious face and

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then like gives us the green light. The fuck are they swabbing? What

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the fuck are they doing? I
don't know? In organized crime? Yeah,

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he's a part of the yakuza.
But like it's paper cardboard. What

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if it's like lethal cardboard? What
do you mean you ever get a nasty

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paper cut from opening a box?
I guess yeah? And then what and

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you laid it off to Okay in
the airplane, if we have a HULO

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incident, Yeah, what if John
Luke decides to home alone? Us huh,

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I got a called Grandma and a
come home cote home alone. That's

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pretty good. And then you know, so we have Southwest and we have

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like the last possible boarding group.
So we already think like, oh,

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we're fucking screwed. We we hobble
onto the play and John I'm holding John

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Luke's bag. Uh. There they
have the cardboard cutouts, and of course

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there's like one window seat that we
think, oh, we'll stick them over

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there, but we have to like
go forward and go back to put our

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bags up. And then John Lucas
tried to throw Echi bud over like two

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rows of seats to get to the
window, and then the poor flight attendant

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is just looking at us idiots.
It was like here, just just give

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give them to me. That's the
move. And and then like thankfully they

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put each EVN and carry you next
to the beverage cards safely they tuck them

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away, and we had to be
the last people off the plane because we

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were sitting close to the middle because
those are the only seats left. And

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then we had to like hobble back
to get each bone and carry you and

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they're safe. That's worth it,
though, right, Like it's totally worth

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and I first off, we should
tell everyone like there was an attempt to

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ship these back and someone came back
with a quote of like was it fours?

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They got four hundred dollars? There's
no way that's how much that costs.

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But yeah, I guess it doesn't
help. No, that definitely,

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but like that's the move, right, and you guys were maybe even more

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casual about it. I feel like, get on that plane and you just

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like find what appears to be the
nicest flight attendant and you're like, hey,

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can you help me out here?
I'll tell you are how do you

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find the nicest slight attendant? Oh, you judge them, judge them by

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it. No, you judge them
by the greeting you get when you walk

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on the plane, and then you
find your mark. Rights are actually like

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angels. Have you ever had one
that saved your life? Like I had

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a bad throat thing coming back from
icelings. I drink too much PEPSI Max,

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and I was like, we don't
listen, never mind ahead the truth.

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I would never lie to you guys. I and I was like,

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I don't think I could swallow anymore. I need water so bad. And

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it was like that was not happening
yet. So I walked up to the

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she like looked like an angel,
Please She's like, just give it a

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second, we'll get it. And
like she comes to hands with me like

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five minutes later a full giant bottle
of Icelandic water, and it saved my

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life. It was the best one
flight attendant saved my life once because you

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know, my debilitating addiction to coffee. I needed a cup on the plane.

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And then she puts her hand on
my shoulder and says, looks me

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in the eyes, says, honey, you do not ever want airplane coffee.

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Oh yeah, And that put enough
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Here you go. Yeah, that
was That was a fun week.

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That was a fun week. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently everyone does, like

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in Los Angeles, they like leave
town throughout all of December because no one's

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from Los Angeles, so they'll go
home. I guess I did kind of

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notice that by the end of the
weekend, and I guess that's why LAX

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was a little bit slower, because
most people had already left, they'd already

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been on for for a week.
I imagine why you want to be leaving,

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You want to be leave in Los
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for the most part, as much
as you can, that's as much

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as it's Christmas in Los Angeles.
Yeah, your Shane Black moves. Unless

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you're heard delusional asshole, it can't
exist in that very warm city, that's

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right. So I feel like Dan, I feel like Dan Riker is like

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a troublemaker person. I just want
to get this out there and explain how

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much of a troublemaker he is.
And he he did turn into like an

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antsy toddler at some point. It's
like, oh, someone get a tablet

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for him and sit him down,
Like that's what it felt like. You're

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one hundred percent right. We should
have totally brought him like some kind of

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etch a sketch or like Fisher Price
baby first tablet, right, because yes,

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I just laid there happen. Yeah
you weren't. Yeah, Grub wasn't

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innocent in all this. There is
some blood on his hands as well.

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But Dan was a straight up fucking
toddler for multiple moments during this trip,

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and I just want everyone to know
with him not being here able to defend

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himself, because he would totally be
like, well, you're a you know,

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this is what happens when you're restless, and he would come up with

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something and believe that he himself had
gotten away with these crimes. But no,

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he is a little baby idiot sometimes
and the major problem he had pulling

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up his mess. Yeah, oh
I felt so bad. Yeah, he

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got in trouble. Yeah they couldn't. Yeah, Dan got restless because the

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uber is taking so long, so
he tried tying grabs shoes together for the

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second time. The grub finally like, no, don't. They just took

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the shoe and went outside with it, but then couldn't get back in,

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so there was like a hostage negotiation. But Dan went and filled the shoe

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with a bunch of tiny pebbles that
were nearby from like the garden of the

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building where the fandom offices are.
But then like so, like when Jeffake

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gets a chance to grab the shoe, he grubs it violently so that the

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pebbles went flying everywhere. They went
all over the place. It sounded like

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the glass broke when these pebbles went
everywhere, bearing the white at us as

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we're doing this. It was mortifying. What I would just say it it

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was mortifying, And then it was
it was terrible. And there I am

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and I saw these two guys,
They're like, what's going on over there.

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I said, Oh, don't worry, I'm just friends with fucking idiots.

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And then on top of that,
a stranger lady tried talking to us

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for a while. Oh yeah,
that was a clearly like weird, like

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medical surgical thing in that office.
And this lady came downstairs high as fuck

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on something that I've never done,
and she was like, these are my

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new friends. Weird. Ten minutes, I gotta talk to Dan also about

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another charge on my room that I
don't know what's going on, some sort

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of cleaning fee that i' the stuff
he put in my pillows are your pillows?

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So he well, yeah, so
like the night the last night,

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we had to get up at like
five am grub and eye to get to

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uh lax, and yeah, Backler
left early so he let me use his

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room. But the whole week,
uh Dan found out I never watched face

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officer. We're watching face off.
We're watching face off. He had all

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these grand plans. Eventually everyone else
was like, no, we're tired,

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but he just wouldn't leave this room. He's like twenty minutes or twenty minutes

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of face off, twenty minutes of
face off, and I'm like grub.

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You had to tell him it's unreasonable. Jeff hop Asleep's like, oh yeah,

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twenty minutes is fun. So he
does it. And of course,

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because I've never seen face Off,
I want to see the rest of it.

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So now I'm just up with him
watching face Off. Had we finished

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it two hours of sound, but
he's such a point. I left the

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room for like ten minutes, and
when I came back. What's funny is

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at first there's like a sugar in
the raw on the sheets, and it

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was like, that's weird. I
was like, that's weird. He's like,

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oh yeah, what do I backward
did that? There was like paper

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utensils in the pillowcase and tea bags. I was like, oh, clearly

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Dan did this a right, Okay, well he's a master, what genius,

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it's not all of it? Back
I'm sorry, well yeah, what

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a prankster elite pros to that man
is like literally just looks around the room

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and his toddler band is like,
how can I how can I just mess

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with him in the most borderline inconvenient
way. How tea bags? They're like

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tea bags about heroes of diversity,
and they had like like yeah, Martinuther

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King one, and that's they were. Were they still closed or were they

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used? I gotta send down a
dry cleaning bill, is what's gonna happen?

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Yeah, boy? Also a dog
bit me, Yes, I remember.

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I remember when like you came back
to the Jade Tuf we were in

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a remedy after party, which we
don't know how we got there and then

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back ours like a dog bit me. I'm trying to get him to explain

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it, and I'm like, I
still don't really understand what happened. Eventally

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that night he didn show me his
leg and I thought he was wearing a

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sock, a white sock, but
it was just how white his leg is.

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It is the paleless like I've ever
seen, Jeff. It was not

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Barley for for all things, it
was not. It was a feral dog,

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La dog. It was a la
dog who had clearly seen some ship

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in its life. Okay, So
I was. We left the remedy room,

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which was one of a little more
wilder and fun rooms we had been

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in all of TGA. So we're
getting back and you know, I went

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by myself. I guess I was
trying to Oh, I was trying to

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meet you. Guys right, who
I believe you guys were at like a

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twitch thing or something right with Mary. Right. Yeah, there's a loping,

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hopping back and forth between the FIG
and the JW right, which you

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know might be only a couple thousand
feet, but might as well be a

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river between them, okay, because
it's a bit treacherous dogs. Yeah,

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right. So, I, as
a fast walker, was behind a group

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of people that were just not moving
quick enough for me. So I decided

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to pass on the right, which
you should never do. You should only

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pass on the left when you're driving, but when you're walking, I guess

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it's safe to pass on the right. So I pass on the right,

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and I do see in the distance
a couple hundred feet in front of me

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as a yappie dog, and I'm
like, oh, that's a little shit

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dog, you know whatever, it's
yeah, And it was on a leash,

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and it was being sort of like
tethered to someone sitting on a chair

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in the middle of the street,
and you know, I didn't really think

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much of it. I was a
little drunk. I was sort of just

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like whatever. So I walked around
this group that's taking too slow and this

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dog, I can see out of
the corner of my eye. I'm like,

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I'm probably gonna pass pretty close to
it, but it's on a leash

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and I'm safe. I was wrong. This dog did not like the fact

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that I was walking too fast.
It was scared by me, I guess,

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and it just leaped right at it, just like yeadd itself. What's

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the protocol here? Do you just
walk away? You know someone else is

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dogging that bites you? Right?
I mean It's like it was like you

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could if you wanted to. Then
it felt like a chihuahuah. It was

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small as hell, like I knew
it. Yeah, the one I had

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had no more water left in it. I was I was shooting blanks.

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I was shooting blanks. So this
thing lunges at my jeans and it like

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it definitely like nipped me, like
I felt the teeth on my skin,

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and I was like, oh,
like this I did one of those like.

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I didn't pick it. I didn't
kick it, because even in that

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moment of passion and fear, I
did not choose to kick the dog.

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You were stronger. I was stronger, I was better. I was the

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better animal, and you were better
slightly yes, And I fucking just like

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lunged my foot away and it just
broke its It broke its grip. But

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there I am, and I'm like, what the fuck? Dog? Like,

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what why'd you do that? And
then I'm like, oh, this

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dog's probably has like a terrible life, and I just I get it.

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Fun. Did the owners say anything
that even notice? Well, the owner,

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I don't think the owner was very
concerned about what his dog was doing.

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Cool was not a favorable environment at
all for anyone involved. Sure,

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let's just leave it at that.
Uh. And you know, the dog

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was eating out of a styrofoam tray
of some sort and then saw my leg

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and thought that maybe that's tastier than
what I got in front of me,

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and so it so it's like,
you know it it clenched on for a

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second, and then for a second
I'm like walking back and I'm like,

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oh, man, that kind of
hurts. I hope it didn't break skin.

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I hope I'm not bleeding now from
a wild street dog that I will

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probably have to go to the hospital
or at some point. So I got

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back to the to the fig and
I like lifted up my thing, and

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sure enough, there was no broken
skin. So we can laugh about this

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instead of uh, morning morning,
my rabin is dead water just doesn't sound

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very good today. Yeah, but
it was pretty fucked up. I was

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pretty mad at the whole situation,
but I did kind of shrug it off

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in a way that, uh,
it was very mature of you. Yeah.

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Thanks. Anyway, I was almost
dinner for a while. The fled.

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It was a good time speaking about
dinner Mike's birthday dinner. Man,

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I still am sweating meat from it, but I feel bringing more meat.

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We were at a Korean barbecue,
and you know this is a lot when

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I say, I think that's the
most red meat I ever ate in wo

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meal. It was great. It
was great. I thought we were done

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after like halfway through, and then
I see there's still a giant steak on

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the table that has yet to be
cooked. Oh, it's fantastic. It

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was. It was too much meat. My favorite part is knowing that myself,

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knowing because because Bailey told me that
it's one of those joints where they

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will cook the meat for you.
But she was running around a lot,

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the kind woman helping us out.
That grub turns over and goes, John,

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can you help us out? And
I'm like, no, I said,

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we need an adult, we need
an adult. So I go over

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thinking like, yeah, I eat
curry barbecue almost too much. I'll just

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flip it for the boys. And
then I wonder, it's because I'm the

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Asian here, isn't it isn't that? Isn't that why? But then it

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was great, closest and the Asian
you were driving that chip in a weird

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way. I feel like that's great. That's great, especially for Dan who

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has never done anything outside of his
own comfort zone, watching sesame oil for

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the first time. Pure bliss,
pure bliss. Oh, he had never

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had okay, and he's delicious,
so of course he's gonna like it.

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And I'm not joking. He really
truly, I don't know if you were

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there for that conversation, but he
really truly did not understand meat temperature,

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Like you didn't know when when was
that conversation because I was in front of

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you guys the whole time. I
heard him say burnt to a crisp,

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which is something he says about someone
that always orders meat, and that that's

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Ben Hansen, Okay, Ben Hanson, right, yes, which is just

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a psycho like if someone at my
table orders meat burned to a crisp.

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I now consider them like a serial
killer, like a well done person,

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he said, burned to a christ. They were like, you mean well

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done? He's like no more than
that. He Dan just thought meat gets

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cooked and that's it. And I
was like, no, you can.

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You gotta wait, Like he make
a medium rare and then you put it

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back in the fridge and it goes
back to rare. No, it turns

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back into a cow. Could you
open your fridge and there's a little tiny

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cow there? Then it was insane
to me. I don't know how you

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missed the jan I have a bone
to pick with Tam and Lucy. Oh

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okay, Tam and Lucy have too
many cool friends, right yeah, that

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I need like a primer or a
brief as to like for real, when

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I walk up to them, I'm
like, Okay, who are you hanging

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out with right now? So I
don't embarrass myself and look like an idiot?

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Yeah, because that happens all the
time. I see that happened to

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be a little bit on the couch
because they're like, we can get remedy

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for the couch and Sam Lake,
I'm like, oh cool, cool,

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00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.640
cool, and then like as like
we're getting as we're walking to the couch,

410
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.319
Kyle Rowley, the director of Allan
Wake two, so like hello,

411
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:07.319
I'm Kyle. I'm like, oh
yeah, Kyle Rally. I just looked

412
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.119
up the name. I did not
know he was the director of the game

413
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:14.759
until we started the conversation and I
put two and two together, like that's

414
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:17.799
how that happened. So I just
a cheat sheet would help. And it

415
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:22.079
was like very funny at dinner because
like I like look up and I'm like,

416
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:23.160
wait, that's Michael Nai right in
front of me, and right next

417
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.119
to him is the voice actor actor
for Ashley and Resident Evil Force and he

418
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:32.920
loves residevil for it. Oh yeah, you talk to her. Were just

419
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.119
in the middle of like figuring out
this. Meics like, oh look,

420
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:41.400
hey, Mike, that's the voice
of as. Did you wait? So

421
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.759
you do you did know or you
did not know during the dinner He knew

422
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:51.920
during the Okay, that's the best
because if you Scott seated next to her

423
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:59.880
too, I feel like you would
have been uncontrollable, very like you.

424
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.440
I feel like you would have Yeah, actually, you know what do you

425
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:07.559
you You're you're able to keep it. You're able to do cool Cucumber totally

426
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:12.119
A million questions like so like it's
leon cool Like I remember in the game,

427
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:15.319
Uh yeah, I thought that was
neat. Did they throw you in

428
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:22.240
a dumpster to hide while you're doing
those lines? H Yeah. They know

429
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.279
a lot of cool people, and
I agree Grub. There were many times

430
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.799
where I was like having you know, because I just I'll just introduce myself

431
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:30.920
to people, but I don't tell
them what I do. So I'm just

432
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.839
like, oh, hey, I'm
Jeff, and we just start talking about

433
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:38.640
everything but video games and everything but
what we're doing. And most of those

434
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:42.359
I mean, obviously I know who
Sam Lake is, but most of those

435
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.400
remedy guys, I just, you
know, I didn't know. And I

436
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:49.240
feel like there was the first night
we were talking for like an hour at

437
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:52.680
the pool and then we all left, and I was like, those are

438
00:29:52.759 --> 00:30:00.359
nice dudes who were Every time after
I hang out with it is it's Danna

439
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.319
Lucy's fault because they're too cool.
They're too cool. Like they end up

440
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.480
having a very long conversation with Kyle
Rally and now I'm like, you're my

441
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:14.359
friend. Yeah, Kyle, super
cool, really really cool cats. He

442
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:15.960
like was like, oh yeah,
Mike, you like the knife Perry and

443
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:18.680
Recible four Like it was like that, like, oh okay, you like

444
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.359
listen watch the content. Eh,
it was very very nice. It was

445
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.119
very sweet. But you mean lots
of good times. Yeah, really great

446
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:34.200
trip, uh fantastic uh segments on
the couch grub like organized all that stuff.

447
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:37.000
Guys. Yeah, it was I
mean a lot of fun. It

448
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:40.160
was like like always, it's everyone
makes it super easy because they're just they

449
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:41.759
know what to do. Get on
there, start talking, and they make

450
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.519
it very easy for me. But
it was a good time. It's always

451
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.599
great to like get the into the
in between segments and I'm like taking a

452
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.039
breather and make it sure I remember
who's coming up next. I look at

453
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:53.559
the monitor of like what's happening on
the party, and it was hopping at

454
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.279
that points that night, it was
oh nuts out there. Yeah, very

455
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.119
about sup like the person at one
point, but we don't need to get

456
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:07.640
into that, right. I cleared
off a whole table, put thumbtacks and

457
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:11.440
barbed wire on it, but it
never got used right tragically. Yeah,

458
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.200
can you imagine that happened? Yeah, the live show happened. Oh my

459
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.200
god, I think my cake.
There's a cake in my face at some

460
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:25.599
point then stabbed it. I didn't. My children were scared of that thing.

461
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.599
Yeah, we will not keep uncle
mikey. Can I just say,

462
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.759
like I knew, obviously knew about
the cake. I knew what was going

463
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:38.160
on, but until I actually saw
it get cut in half, prepared for

464
00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:42.880
that, I was deeply upset by
Its similar to the way where like you

465
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.119
see a lobster get thrown a lot
of lopster get thrown to a pot,

466
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.039
Like I had that reaction where I
like almost couldn't even look at it.

467
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:55.720
It's something like primordial in our guts. That's just like I should not be

468
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:05.240
whatever this is. It shouldn't be
happening. Yeah, yeah, pretty good.

469
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.359
Bothered me. It bothered me a
lot. Pretty good. I was

470
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:10.720
like, yeah, fun Fett,
he's got to be the one cake that

471
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:16.160
Mike would be down with you.
Yeah, that was a friend of Chef

472
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:20.759
Bob. Shouts out to Chef Bob
for linking us up with fat lemon s.

473
00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:24.279
D Yes, cool, pretty freaking
cool. Like if you go to

474
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:30.759
the d N. Yeah, like
the tension of detail and certain parts of

475
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:36.319
it were like like there was like
weird shading on it to where you're like

476
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.880
the flesh color on the feet was
the most messed up part. When no

477
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.680
one was looking, I got up
like real nose to nose with it,

478
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.559
and I just wanted to make sure
it wasn't alive like I was just I

479
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:47.640
just had to be like like that. And that turns out it was a

480
00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:52.119
cake. But still one of the
best parts is that they have had never

481
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:58.000
seen RoboCop until then either, so
they watched RoboCop for research to fully know

482
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:05.119
robo mic They were like, what
is awesome co robo Mitch? Sorry?

483
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:09.640
Sorry, I haven't been any called
Mitch very much lately. Are you upset

484
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.400
about that little? Oh? Really? I miss it. I miss it

485
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:19.200
nostalgic period of his life. This
is how Dan wins Mike. You can't

486
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.000
exactly he doesn't call me the least, calls me Mitch the least. Now,

487
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:27.079
Yeah, I guess it's played down
or something. I don't know.

488
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.480
I do. I do want to
thank everyone who came out to that show.

489
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.400
There were tons of people who flew, which just blows my actual mind.

490
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:39.039
So you are unbelievably special to us. Thank you to each and everyone

491
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:45.359
who was able to attend in person, who purchased a poster, who watched

492
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:49.400
the live stream, or even if
you thought about us and you were like,

493
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.400
look at this. Oh, you
know, shouts out to Marino.

494
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.240
It was so cool seeing Marino for
the first time in person. Feels like

495
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:58.960
ears. Yeah, Marina was such
a help. Thank you so much,

496
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.599
Marina. He'll downplay it, but
it was really nice to have. Yeah,

497
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:07.759
it was a exactly for sure.
Yeah, well, shouts always be

498
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.880
clothing. Who got us each?
Oh that was amazing, so sweet,

499
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.599
so sweet of a person. Yeah, I got that video. I'll share

500
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:16.880
it with you. Always be clothing. We'll do a mail bag. Yeah

501
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:22.960
oh yeah sure, yeah but yeah, shouts out again. I don't think

502
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:28.280
you get enough flowers for this,
Jeff, Jeff, backlar, ladies and

503
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:31.960
gentlemen. Yes for like spearheading all
this shit? What what the adult in

504
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:35.360
the room? Right? Yeah?
Yeah? Never what happened without him?

505
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.559
Thanks guys. I mean I can't
take all the credit. A lot of

506
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.880
people helped, obviously, you all
such a major part of this. It

507
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.519
was a lot. It's a lot
of work. We need help, we

508
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:51.280
need help. Yeah, like totally
uh so, you know, We're gonna

509
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.400
do this again for sure in what
capacity, I'm not sure. Hopefully sooner

510
00:34:54.480 --> 00:35:00.760
than later, definitely before the next
TGAs. But yeah, it was great.

511
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:06.119
It was It was really awesome to
see it be executed and all these

512
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.280
purposes everyone. I feel like it. I feel like it kinda kind of

513
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:14.679
really just went off without a hitch. If it's weird, So it's weird

514
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:16.960
that it did, right. The
funny The funniest part was we got to

515
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.679
the venue of like eight am,
and you know, you go in and

516
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.079
like there's people who work at the
venue. They're starting to get set and

517
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:29.440
Jane and I are looking at the
big open floor and we're like, we're

518
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:30.239
like, all right, so there
are going to be chairs, right,

519
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:36.159
There are gonna be chairs here.
Like chas was like a real thing up

520
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:38.719
until the last minute, because I
feel like I wheeled it into reality,

521
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:43.360
where like two days prior, I'm
just like, hey, guys, I'm

522
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.880
just gonna say this because it's on
my mind. I don't think if it's

523
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:47.840
anything to worry about, but there's
a part of me that's slightly worried that

524
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.639
there's not gonna be seats in this
thing, and I forget you know,

525
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:53.559
I don't know what I'm basing it
on. It's just a vibe, just

526
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:57.360
a little intuition, but it's enough
where I want to say something out loud,

527
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.559
just so at the very least there's
like a there's like evidence of me

528
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:06.199
caring about this thing. And then
we get to the venue and we're backstage,

529
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:07.599
and I'm like, I think I
like elbow, Jen, and I'm

530
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:12.159
like, look at all those fucking
chairs. Yeah, yeah, no see.

531
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.760
But even then, like an hour
later, Beckler comes to me like,

532
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:20.840
they're gonna put the chairs out right, like, well, what if

533
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.960
those aren't our chairs? Right?
Like what if those chairs got someplace to

534
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.840
be right? Like what if what
if it's not here? But then the

535
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:30.559
second we started seeing them moves,
I go, what did I say?

536
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.360
Jen, I'm like, chairs a
movement? Chaers moment, look at the

537
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.639
moot, look at them. Go. Man, I don't realize how many,

538
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.559
how quickly you can lay down almost
three hundred chairs, but you would

539
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:45.800
do amazing that That venue staff was
maybe like three people, but they made

540
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:50.960
everything happen so fast. There's like
a mad dash to get out there when

541
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:52.840
it was done, because there's two
more shows that night that say they were

542
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:58.440
booked. I noticed it in the
green rooms after we left. They put

543
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.440
stuff like drinks and and loaves of
bread. I'm like, what the fuck,

544
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:06.760
I didn't get no roof of bread? You know, I think if

545
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:14.400
we are locked and loaded a little
earlier, Yeah, we had an emergency

546
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:21.159
rider. It was just like oxygen. Yeah. I put like a box

547
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:23.559
of all of our stuff in the
lobby and I propped the door open with

548
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:27.960
it so we could get back in
and out just in case we forgot anything.

549
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:30.320
And then the person working the front
door just like slowly kicks it out

550
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:37.519
and closes the door. Here.
Okay, yeah, they but like as

551
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.239
much as you know, under their
breath, they they wanted us out there.

552
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.440
They were so accummodating. Yeah,
super nice, and like that's the

553
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.079
vibe of a lot of those places. You know. I've been to tons

554
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.480
of venues around the country, and
when you find the right people, like

555
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.480
everyone's super chill. You know.
Yeah, I love that. That's the

556
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:59.199
right kind of scene for us,
for sure. Yeah, fantastic. I'm

557
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:04.159
only asking because I've been as so
often the vod is going up on YouTube.

558
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:08.559
So unfortunately, my number one enemy
in the world, which is the

559
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:15.360
TriCaster poop the bed partially in the
middle of the stream, so the stream

560
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:20.400
archive is a little bit broken.
I'm waiting to get the full archive from

561
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.559
our zachar technical the local file the
local file, so we can upload that

562
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:27.599
in full. But if you do
want to seek it out, there is

563
00:38:27.639 --> 00:38:31.719
a good ten minutes missing from the
middle though, where we have another category

564
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:39.480
and the giveaway is cut out,
and then the beginning of best momentar sequence

565
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:45.280
is also cut out. So hopefully
that comes in soon and then that will

566
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:50.599
be up asap, folks. Yeah, hopefully hopefully. If not, I

567
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.760
will just do it like a recap
of what had happened and reenactment. We'll

568
00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:59.880
just a yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. That'll be easy,

569
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.559
actors to play us and stuff.
Yeah, that's actually an email later.

570
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.920
Should we talk about games? Do
what we want to? Okay,

571
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.880
I was gonna say, like,
I'd be fine recapping the rest of the

572
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:16.559
week that was, but we could
drop there we go games? Could I

573
00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:23.800
play something? Oh? I did
some like I don't know, I didn't

574
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:29.119
put this in the rundown or anything, but I did some like old school

575
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.719
game and I played some NHL hits
two thousand and two. Wow, okay,

576
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.559
don't just speak about it, be
about it. What happened? Man?

577
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.320
That game holds up in a way
that like I was kind of surprised,

578
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:45.519
did you. I'm sure you played
that grub right, I was talking

579
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.199
about kid? What game is it? Hits Hits two thousand and two.

580
00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:51.039
Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah
absolutely. I played a ton of it

581
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.039
at the time. It was one
of those ones where it was like in

582
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:58.320
the weird period where I was moving
around a little bit, so I was

583
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.039
like, didn't have a dedicated friend
to come play games with me like I

584
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.199
did in Michigan, where we would
just play a ton of stuff. So

585
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.360
it's like I didn't play even as
much of it as I wanted to.

586
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:09.320
But I really like that game.
There is something about arcade hockey that works

587
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.840
so so well that it's insane.
I get the addressable market whatever a jerk

588
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.360
off hand motion. But they should
still make those games. They absolutely should.

589
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.440
They tried to do it, like
maybe twelve years ago or something where

590
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.960
EA put out like a three on
three hockey game that was like that was

591
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:30.079
probably like sixty percent of the way
there, but not totally. Yeah,

592
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:37.320
that mode is okay, The craziest
part of NHL Hits is that I think

593
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:44.159
the puck there's something real, more
realistic about the way the puck reacts in

594
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:49.440
that game than like what Natel twenty
four is doing. Oh boy, I

595
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.880
can't really describe it. It's more
it's more like a deflection, like a

596
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:57.760
more organic kind of like deflection sort
of response to it. Either way,

597
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:00.159
I thought I was going to fire
this game up and be like, well,

598
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.280
this shit is aged, and like, yeah, it's dep I mean,

599
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:06.280
it's a twenty two year old game, right, So you're looking at

600
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.800
like character models that are just of
that era, but you know, really

601
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:15.400
yeah, but they look fucking good, like like Scott Stevens looks like Scott

602
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:17.880
Stevens, and you're just there's no
real illusion that you have to kind of

603
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:22.119
believe there. And the game plays
great. I think the only thing that

604
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:29.519
I would criticize it from the position
of contemporary gaming is just like there's just

605
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.039
not that many things you can do
in your arsenal of moves, Like you

606
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:37.440
can only do so many things with
like trick skating and playing. The bulk

607
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.880
of this game is like setting up
the right one timers to score and that's

608
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:44.440
really it, and that's what that
game kind of is. And obviously the

609
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:47.679
over the top checking and whatnot.
If you made this game again now and

610
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.559
like gave everyone a whole laundry list
of like abilities, it would be like

611
00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:58.239
like, who, I realized no
one plays hockey. I realized no one

612
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.480
buys NHL twenty four outside to Canada. I realized this well, like selfishly,

613
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.039
I don't know figure it out,
Like I don't know how this it's

614
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.800
just not gonna get done right,
Like from a strictly business point of view,

615
00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:14.880
like a modern version of this is
just never gonna happen, and there's

616
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:20.400
nothing we can do. Would you
like like an arcadie indie hockey game backlar?

617
00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:22.559
Would that scratch that? Yeah?
I need like the current players?

618
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.800
Does that matter at all? I'm
not precious about that at all. Like

619
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.960
if you give me like a mutant
league version of this, I don't care

620
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:31.800
what it is. I just want
like good hockey action, Like I don't

621
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:35.880
care if it's Jack Hughes like I
want it. I just you know,

622
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.559
uh, just just do it.
Just give me that play. I don't

623
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:42.000
I don't care about the license.
I don't care about the NHLPA, just

624
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:46.400
like, give me the action.
I thought Tape to tape was gonna scratch

625
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:50.559
that itch and that game's that game's
fun. I had a good time with

626
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:53.760
it, but I just think,
like the hockey action, uh, the

627
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:59.639
chops are not necessarily there, and
you know, it's fine, like it

628
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:01.320
was. It was a cool idea
of that game, and haven't really gone

629
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.599
back to it too much, but
but I want I want this. I

630
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:08.880
want strictly the hockey over the top
arcade action. And the fact that the

631
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:13.920
best version of that is twenty one
years old and in no way is ever

632
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.960
gonna get done again and for any
foreseeable future is a bit of a bummer.

633
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:22.039
Yeah, it's the things we've lost
is gaming has gotten more like higher

634
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:27.159
fidelity, where it's like we lived
in a world once where Nintendo made hockey

635
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:31.239
games. Yeah, like in Japan
they made ice hockey, and it's like

636
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.920
that was a pretty cool world to
live in where anyone was just like,

637
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:37.519
yeah, it costs five dollars to
make this game, of course we'll do

638
00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.960
that. And now it's like,
well, we can't do that unless it's

639
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.079
got a huge budget and we're gonna
be competing against all this stuff, we

640
00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:46.119
gotta go with the license. It's
like, oh man, I I like

641
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.639
the ways gaming has grown in a
lot of ways, but making it difficult

642
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:52.880
to just like shoot out a bunch
of cool, interesting arcade sports games.

643
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:57.920
That's been one thing we've lost since
been a bummer, and and a lot

644
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.519
of other genres. The indie game
scene has filled in those voices. Yeah,

645
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:05.239
the vacuums that hasn't quite happened here. It's starting to and fits in

646
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.239
spurts, but not really. Yeah, I mean, you know, I

647
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:10.400
guess, you know, looking at
it from a different sort of angle,

648
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:15.920
like this could be accomplished by an
indie studio, and I do think there

649
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:21.039
has been enough entries that are adjacent. I mean, you know, you

650
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:24.119
look at like the time and effort
spent on something like a roller drome right

651
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:30.480
where like that like that energy,
I think you would not be wasted on

652
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:36.280
a capable arcade three on three hockey
game. Like I definitely, I definitely

653
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:40.480
think there is enough nostalgia and enough
desire for something like that in a contemporary

654
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:46.880
capacity to get made for by an
indie outfit and be successful. But yeah,

655
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.920
you know, I don't know,
Maybe I'll just have to put the

656
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:53.519
money together and figure it out and
do it yourself, like robo Dunk,

657
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:58.239
right. I know Tam was really
high on robo dunk. That's as close

658
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:02.199
to a modern and be Jam right
because they just jumped a space. Yeah,

659
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:07.960
it's not impossible. It's not impossible. Uh. I blame these two

660
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:13.280
for the game that I wound up
playing. As soon as I got home

661
00:45:13.559 --> 00:45:21.199
yesterday and I thought I had my
personal top ten all set in concrete,

662
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:24.679
I started to draft everything up,
and then you know, thinking like okay,

663
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:28.719
cool, Like if there was time
for a stupid jam monologue, this

664
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:30.239
would have been here, this would
have been there. Maybe that I would

665
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:34.840
have taken the straps off for that
game. But then, because these fuckers

666
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:39.840
plus Dan just just so passionate about
these little freaks and these little dudes,

667
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:46.079
my own fucking the little freaks that
I associate myself with, the Romen Goblins

668
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:52.039
plus Mike have have infested my brain
with these little freaks. And you know,

669
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.440
like I had watched like a couple
of YouTube I had done the demo

670
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:59.920
for Pickman four, liked it,
and then I played a little bit of

671
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.760
it, liked it, And then
I just watched YouTube videos and descriptions to

672
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.840
properly talk about best Pickman. And
then I got into the little loop myself

673
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.079
and I'm like, oh, this
is fun, this is cool, this

674
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:15.760
is great. And then five hours
passed wow, and then I was like,

675
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:19.800
oh shit, I love these little
freaks. I would die for them.

676
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.360
And holy shit, Greb, Like, when you mentioned like that the

677
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:30.880
loop of this game is near perfect, you were not over selling that in

678
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:36.920
the slightest because a game that ticked
that loop of like all right, activity

679
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.519
here, break, activity break,
activity break. I thought Dave the Diver

680
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:45.280
handled that really well and timing out
the portions were diving under the sea and

681
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:51.119
then you have to manage the restaurant
and then run the restaurant with Pigman four.

682
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:58.000
It feels criminal that it is not
getting enough recognition that it should be

683
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:02.840
getting. And I'm sure it's gonna
wind up on a lot of people's personal

684
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:07.719
top ten lists, But for like
other major gaming outlets, I think that

685
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:12.400
speaks to the volume of amazing game
releases this year, because in another year,

686
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.360
I think Pickman should be on like
the top half of a lot of

687
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:22.840
outlets Oh yeah lists because of how
mechanically perfect it is and I want folks

688
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:27.440
to know this is my first Pickman
game other than like the Niantic Mobile one,

689
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:29.239
which is not the same at all. Right, I mean it was

690
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.679
my first Pickman game. Really.
I like try the other ones in spurts

691
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:36.119
and was always like, I think
it's just not really for me. But

692
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.280
you know, Jeff's talked about how
liking Pickman so much, and I don't

693
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:43.039
know, it came out at a
pretty good time where I was just like

694
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.519
I needed something to play on my
switch, and now I'm gonna just really

695
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.679
get into this. I'm gonna give
it a really good try. Even at

696
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:51.559
the beginning is a little boring.
It takes a little bit for the loop

697
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.639
to get going. Once it gets
going, it really Yeah. It really

698
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:59.280
was one of those I'm going to
play this game like five hours every night

699
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:04.039
and so all the sudden oops one
it is it? Yep, gentlemen,

700
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.840
is it foolish to try and get
an O lead switch right now? Okay,

701
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:12.360
so last time we thought we talked
about this on like the last bomb

702
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:16.159
cast that was real and and then
Backar was like, hey that my friend

703
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:19.079
asked me about that, and I'm
like, no, just wait till next

704
00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:23.440
year and then in La Backlar saw
an O Lead. It was m like

705
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:30.239
I could tell I could see him
weakening before me and listen to Switch rules.

706
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.000
The screen is so good. It's
so good. And if you have

707
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:37.320
like a crusty old switch, the
getting the better battery, getting the O

708
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:42.800
Lead, having like joy cons that
are functional and feel like not like again,

709
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.840
not crusty, that's a big that's
a pretty big upgrade at this point.

710
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.000
Now, yeah, something will come
out next year, but I don't

711
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.639
know. I'm still gonna like my
switch. Yeah, I would, I

712
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.679
would get one. I would get
one, see because like I really enjoyed

713
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:59.320
like these third party joy Con controllers
that have like a little bit more grip

714
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.679
to them, kind of makes it
feel like a steam deck more. But

715
00:49:01.760 --> 00:49:07.440
then just playing it on the launch
switch because my my original switch broke.

716
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:14.199
I have been using my partners and
just like man, after seeing Let's switch

717
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:17.119
in person again, grub it messed
me up. It really? Have you

718
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.000
have you played Super Mario RPG?
I fired up an hour of it,

719
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:23.840
but I knew that I would play
too much of it, right, So

720
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:27.119
I mean that's the one that you
could like play get out, get a

721
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.079
lot of on the O led Classic
games look good on the O lead,

722
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.480
So the tot to Switch online stuff
works really well. Paper Mario will be

723
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:37.360
next year that Princess Peach game.
There's still stuff happening on the Switch.

724
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.679
Yeah, and then the problem is
then grub I want to revisit all the

725
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:45.280
old stuff like I want to I
want to revisit My Boys and my Cat

726
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:51.320
People and Zeno Blade. Oh yeah, that Future Perfect was supposed to be

727
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:59.440
future people love that. Octopaths,
Yes, Ocapath Traveler two would look fantastic

728
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:04.360
on there, would look very good
on We're doing stop, I'm enabling myself,

729
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:07.880
okay. Man. By the way, like we're getting pretty close to

730
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:09.440
the end of the year, we
do we think Switch two is getting announced

731
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:15.280
this year, So maybe no anymore. And what I mean it was always

732
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.880
like a maybe. It was always
like they could have done stuff like that

733
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:22.760
in the past. Maybe they reference
it and they like gently gently gestured towards

734
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:28.199
it in earnings report stuff, but
that's it, and that that that didn't

735
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:30.840
even like rise to the level of
what they've done before. So no,

736
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:32.159
they'll talk about it next year,
release it next year. Probably, So

737
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:37.840
yeah, yeah, yeah, Mike, you were actually in Los Angeles before

738
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:39.920
all of us checking out a game
that I was surprised you didn't have an

739
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.239
appearance at all during the Game of
Wars. You checked out Yeah, we

740
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:45.119
can talk about this, right,
yeah, yeah, yes, yes,

741
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:50.960
the bar goes up. Yep.
You checked out Teken eight, Yes,

742
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:52.719
yeah, I was. I was
in l A a couple of days earlier

743
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:58.480
because there was a Tech and eight
preview event. Uh, so went in,

744
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:04.119
uh checked that out. It was
a lot of fun. I'm not

745
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.559
I would like fighting games a lot, but I've never been a big tech

746
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:10.840
in person. I think just because
I was such a Sega fanboy for a

747
00:51:10.920 --> 00:51:15.000
while in my life that I saw
Techan as an enemy to RICHI a fighter.

748
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:19.440
They don't make a lot of ritual
fighters anymore, though they poured old

749
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.440
ones, but Tecans they'll just keep
making those. For me. It was

750
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:28.039
an enemy of battle arena totionhind the
real good game, right right. We

751
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.760
got to play quite a good chunk. We had time in the story mode,

752
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:37.719
playing like the first four chapters of
that, which is interesting because from

753
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.480
what I could tell, at least
up to the point I play, which

754
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:43.280
was a good chunk. You only
play its gin. It's not like the

755
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:47.159
Mortal Kombat system where you're jumping between
different characters. That's nice in a way

756
00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:52.159
because the story can actually be a
bit more focused. You can really learn

757
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:57.920
at least that one character there could
be less of there's a misunderstanding. We

758
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:02.760
should fight about it, right still, so get flimsy reasons for why people

759
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:06.880
are at least a Tecnd, there
is a tournament at some point, right,

760
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:08.960
and the tournament does come back and
all that. No story spoilers.

761
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:15.559
Man tecan is so anime. I'm
not an anime expert. Like back Teken

762
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.199
is more anime than anime. A
lot of times you've got the cart the

763
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.960
story is like the most just like
you know, angry person like talking about

764
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:27.760
the termination and like losing their power
levels a bit. But like maybe they

765
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.360
could find their power levels if they, I don't know, look in their

766
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:35.400
heart or something. That kind of
stuff. Uh. Production values incredible.

767
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.880
They do fun stuff where even not
like not just between the fights, even

768
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:43.679
between the rounds, there's really cool
like set piece animation moments. So that's

769
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:47.039
a lot of fun. There's also
a separate story mode where you make your

770
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:51.679
little avatar person. Right, you've
probably seen that in the trailers kind of

771
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:52.960
like what you do the Street Fighter, but a bit more I don't know,

772
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:58.400
like you're making your Microsoft Xbox Avatar
style there. And then there's a

773
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:01.320
story mode there where you're like in
the Logo arcade scene and you want to

774
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:07.079
like rise up to like the finals. So it's like go to different arcades

775
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.360
and kind of beat people and increase
your rank. That's fun because you can't

776
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:13.719
just pick whoever you want to play
there, but there is still a story

777
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:17.000
and it's funny. There's like the
one guy who's like already a really serious

778
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:22.039
TECHND eight player. He's got an
edgy haircut and he's like, cool,

779
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:25.280
I see no real competition here.
You people are playing teching for fun.

780
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.800
Then your friends, Like, I
think people should be able to play tech

781
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:32.559
and however they want to. You're
not taking it seriously. And it's somebody

782
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:36.679
who plays smash bars without items and
like stuff. I'm like, I kind

783
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:43.440
of agree with the edgy haircut.
Oh my god, but that's fun.

784
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.199
They brought back some mode that I
guess is another tech It's called techan Ball,

785
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:50.559
which is like volleyball with techan not
like that or Alive, where they

786
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:53.360
just literally made a volleyball game.
But you like a hit the ball and

787
00:53:53.480 --> 00:53:59.199
the ball accumulates all the damage it
takes and it gets transferred to a player

788
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:01.920
if it either hits them without them
blocking or lands in their half of the

789
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:06.760
court. That's just a fun little
thing that game. I remember that mode

790
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:09.679
or something like it from past games. That's pretty cool. Yeah, and

791
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:13.199
then you know, got to just
mess around in training and stuff. The

792
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:15.719
training was really good, Like the
move list wasn't just a move list.

793
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:19.360
It would be like, here's how
you do this move, Here's why this

794
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.400
move is good. Like this move
is good, I guess people who are

795
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:24.760
blocking down or this move is good
to like, you know, initiate this

796
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:29.119
kind of combo. So it was
useful there. I got to play some

797
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:32.000
people around there. Blessing was actually
at this who helped out at our event,

798
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:35.039
but he was at the tech on
things. I got to do someone

799
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:37.480
on ones with with best things some
other people. Yeah, I was just

800
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:42.239
immediately feeling it. I was focusing
on one of the new characters of Raina

801
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:45.760
who seems to have some kind of
connection to Heyachi from the previous games,

802
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:51.719
and already was feeling comfortable enough with
just that one character where I was having

803
00:54:52.119 --> 00:54:53.920
a lot of fun. So yeah, it was a good time. I

804
00:54:54.000 --> 00:55:00.079
got to talk to the producer and
game director just a little bit. I

805
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:02.119
ask them like, hey, like, wow, how come why do you

806
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:06.519
guys think it's just you in this
three D fighting space? What happened is

807
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:08.719
you know, Virtua Fighter and that
are alive. Yeah, you know,

808
00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:13.199
they don't really know, but they
do say they miss them just as much

809
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:16.159
as anybody. They wish they had
that competition. So especially with Sega bringing

810
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:22.000
back all these franchises and you know, even doing Virtua Fighter three another TV

811
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:24.800
release of that, boy, I
hope that that actually does come back in

812
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:29.519
a meaningful way. Hey, you
know, fighting games are going popular again.

813
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:34.000
They sure are. You know,
if it's not there, maybe we'll

814
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:37.119
just build that world, just like
Jeff Grubb has been playing Steam World.

815
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:39.840
Build. Yeah I can't. I
don't think I talked. Hold on,

816
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:44.320
hold on, Jeff Grubb, please
tell me you don't like this game and

817
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:47.199
that you hate it, so I
don't also have to check this out.

818
00:55:47.719 --> 00:55:52.880
You don't have to check it out. But it's very good. It is.

819
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:58.360
It's condensed, so it's like it
is within the scope where it's reasonable

820
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:00.480
to be like, I'm gonna sit
down and play through one campaign and just

821
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:04.159
kind of see what it's about.
They have different scenarios. You can just

822
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:07.920
pick one of the scenarios and go. It is very well done in terms

823
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:14.840
of everything leads into another thing in
a very clean way, and then sometimes

824
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:17.840
then it will lead into other things
in a very big and messy way.

825
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:22.159
But it opens up all these possibilities
where Okay, now I can build these

826
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:27.360
four buildings and they're all interconnected,
but if I get them all together,

827
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:30.599
they will create one resource that now
enables another building, like a good city

828
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:35.800
builder should. And the way that
they sort of keep you on your toes

829
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:38.679
is you have multiple levels. There
is the ground level game that is happening

830
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:43.840
where you're building a city and you're
getting all these resources and you're magnitude people's

831
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:47.840
happiness, and you are taking residential
buildings and then you're upgrading them a tier.

832
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:51.679
So now they could be engineers and
you're upgrading them a tiers, so

833
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.960
now they could be like aristocrats and
stuff, and if you have a certain

834
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:58.360
number of those people, you get
other kinds of buildings. All that stuff's

835
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:02.440
really fun to manage and it keeps
you on this really good macro loop as

836
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:06.440
well as these small little micro loops
that I'm really happy with. But then

837
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:08.000
as you go down the subtraining levels, the game's a little bit different.

838
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:13.760
It's almost like it's you explore,
expand and then you kind of have to

839
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.960
do tower defense stuff because you will, like on the second subtraining level,

840
00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:22.440
you'll begin pushing up against enemy characters
and they will attack your dudes down there,

841
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.320
so you have to build people to
gather the resources, but then also

842
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:30.519
build people to defend those people.
And it's say, okay, so you're

843
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:34.639
managing these two things, and it's
just like a good balance of Okay,

844
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.639
I'm kind of at a wall here
of what I could do up here,

845
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:39.719
or I'm waiting for something to happen. I'll just go back downstairs. We'll

846
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:43.800
see what's going on down there.
I'll see if I can build a new

847
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:45.480
tool I need now to get through
the new kind of rock that I haven't

848
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:49.320
been able to get through up to
this point. Oh I can, Oh,

849
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:52.480
but that's leading me to this enemy
zone, so now I need to

850
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:54.440
prepare. I could see them,
so before I knock down that wall,

851
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:58.639
I should prepare, prepare, And
like, let's get these bits and pieces

852
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:00.320
in place to make sure that we're
going to be safe and make sure that

853
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:04.840
we have enough resources overall that we
can withstand whatever they send at us.

854
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:08.679
And I find it super satisfying.
It's very easy to understand, very easy

855
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:13.760
to parse. I think this is
both a good, Hey, my first

856
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.599
city sim and also like a really
deep one at the same time that has

857
00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:20.840
a lot going on, and I
just love the steam World aesthetic. There's

858
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:23.519
like story elements that you can easily
ignore. I've mostly been ignoring them.

859
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:27.559
I don't care about them too much, I know, right, but they

860
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.760
do have a fun suggestion of,
oh, you know, we're going to

861
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:32.760
be getting ourselves into space, and
a lot of the other SteamWorld games do

862
00:58:32.880 --> 00:58:36.280
take place in space, so it's
almost like, oh, this is the

863
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.559
precursor civilization to that. So yeah, I just I like the game a

864
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:44.440
lot. It's really well done.
Spoilers are SteamWorld dig too, But then

865
00:58:44.639 --> 00:58:46.480
I go into space at the end
of that one. Also, yeah,

866
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:51.079
probably. And then there's the steam
World Tactics game. I can probably that's

867
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:54.000
like your favorite game. You don't
remember what happened. I remember what happens.

868
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:57.480
I played it and it was fun. That's what happened to Mike.

869
00:58:59.320 --> 00:59:04.239
Uh did you Were you ever like
a Warcraft or StarCraft guy? Not huge

870
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.920
now, but I was definitely a
sim city guy. Okay, Oh yeah,

871
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:09.960
I played some Command of Conquer,
but I never played much StarCraft Warcraft.

872
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:13.280
I played a little bit of StarCraft, but not hear me out hear

873
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:15.639
me out here. I've always been
StarCraft curious. What if we do a

874
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:20.159
T and T with StarCraft two?
Oh well, yeah, let's go.

875
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.199
We have to just jump into sixty
four. Let's go. There we go,

876
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:28.880
there we go. Uh. Like
I remember watching Norm Norm from Tested

877
00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:34.519
uh play and Brad play a lot
of StarCraft two and thinking like just writing

878
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:37.239
notes of like, Okay, yeah, this is this is when we're gonna

879
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:38.320
do. I'm gonna be an expert
at this. And then I realized I

880
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:44.760
didn't have a computer that could play
StarCraft two. StarCraft Tour. There's like

881
00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:46.639
a remaster of the first one on
battle neet now, right, yeah,

882
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:49.639
we could we can suck around find
out, we can try. We just

883
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:52.639
kind of see what we're feeling at
the time. But I like the idea

884
00:59:52.679 --> 00:59:53.760
of both. Yeah, yeah,
I kind of want to do both.

885
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:58.559
Uh, Okay, man with Jeff
talking about sounds like those Ono games.

886
00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:02.239
That still makes and like I want
us to all be real big Anno people.

887
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:06.320
But I do intend to find some
time for Anno in my life and

888
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:07.719
I have been intending to do that
for a while. But after the most

889
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:09.960
recent bout that you had with it, Mike, I was like, Okay,

890
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:14.000
he's having a good time. I
know I'll enjoy these games, so

891
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:16.559
it's fun. Yes, I und
yeah, I'll probably get into some Mono

892
01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:22.199
here soon. Uh. Speaking about
worlds, last game we have on the

893
01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:25.360
list, here is a world that
I desperately desperately want to go to.

894
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:31.559
Mike Grub, tell me about Avatar. Oh boy, Yeah, the prot

895
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:37.639
Here's of Pandora. The people they're
blue and big, and boy is that

896
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:40.400
great. That actually is the best
part about the game so far is moving

897
01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:45.480
around as these big blue fuckers they
are. They make them feel tall right

898
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:47.880
from the beginning, because you are
a you're a NAV. You're not like

899
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:51.320
a person in an Avatar body.
You are a NAV, but you were

900
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:54.239
raised by humans. And then like
things go bad and they're like we're gonna

901
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:59.559
come because of Jake Sally, did
you pop when they said Jake Sally's name

902
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:01.199
and the intro, Oh who's that? I don't know any of the characters

903
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:06.719
names. Yeah, I'm a human
being with a pulse. Mike, of

904
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:08.719
course you know. No, it's
no, it's just you. It's just

905
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:16.440
your guys. I've done and I've
done a tremendously unscientific study. Okay,

906
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:23.719
I've come to find out anecdotally and
unscientifically, you lot are the only people

907
01:01:23.880 --> 01:01:28.880
I know. You are. Literally
sat next to Jake Baldino at the Game

908
01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:31.840
Awards, one of my fellow NAVI
freaks, Like, he didn't bring it

909
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:36.000
up once, all Jake, the
first thing we brought up on the night

910
01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:38.599
show. Literally the first thing anyone
said other than me on the night show

911
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:43.400
was I'm Jake Baldino and I want
to talk about Avatar. All Jake didn't

912
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:52.480
even work. That's what happened that
wait. No, when the old Godspaskar

913
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:58.400
came on, the two of us
like wanted to stand, but like didn't

914
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:00.599
because no one else was. But
we were was like, yo, this

915
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:02.480
is the part where we're ever going
to stand at this show. It's going

916
01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:07.519
to be right now. Then we
had and then he he grabbed my leg

917
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:14.039
when the Sega remakes came out,
and and then we bonded. I'm sorry,

918
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:17.280
we drifting that. Wait? What
what do nab do with their ass

919
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:22.159
tails? What do they do?
Connect? Spiritual? Man? We connect?

920
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:24.400
No, it's not spiritually. It's
actually physically, yeah, viscerally.

921
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:30.760
They they kind of like touch tips
a little bit. All right, but

922
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:34.840
that's what Jake and I did.
Jake and I bonded. Yeah, it's

923
01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:36.960
great, though. I don't feel
like it doesn't even matter what other people

924
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.159
think. Although I don't know,
I defend this film franchise or the two

925
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:45.679
movies in it aren't like the two
most successful movies ever. No, no,

926
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:51.800
no, people like it the way
they like a thing that is likely

927
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:53.239
pleasing, you know. They're just
like, oh, yeah, I'll take

928
01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:57.920
a snow cone. Yeah. Necessarily
just like yeah, people enjoy it while

929
01:02:57.920 --> 01:02:59.920
they're watching it. They don't think
about it too much. I forget it.

930
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:02.800
Yeah, lot the second You wun't
see the second movies, so you

931
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:07.960
can't talk about that. Get you
even haven't seen Way of Water. People

932
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.119
feel like that about the first one. Way of Water is a masterpiece.

933
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:15.199
I just like I do. You're
the only people talking about it even at

934
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:21.440
uh do you talk to back?
Even Pandora, Even when I was in

935
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.559
Pandora at Disney, no one was
just like, oh, I really love

936
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:28.679
that, you know, I really
love all this. You're like, no,

937
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:30.199
it's no, just I just don't
think there's like a lot of people

938
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:35.440
anyway. The game is fun,
it's it's far Cry. It's far cry

939
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.639
ass far Cry. They do some
stuff to sort of avatar it up,

940
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:42.119
where like, oh, you got
to get this resource from a tree,

941
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:45.639
So instead of you just pressing X
to like break the tree, you need

942
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:52.320
to break it in a loving way. Like, yes, you could just

943
01:03:52.400 --> 01:03:54.960
break this ship and take it,
but you'll get more resources and it'll be

944
01:03:55.039 --> 01:04:00.239
more carrying towards this planet if you
sort of tenderly break it, mister action,

945
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:02.440
so that it will grow back faster. And well they're trying to be

946
01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:10.920
like environmental, so the nature that
you steal from. Yeah, you gotta

947
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:15.760
get it right, you gotta get
it first person jumping. I'm gonna game

948
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:20.039
a good jumping. Did you did
you get through the part where you you

949
01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:25.440
get your your flying dragon. That's
what I'm about to get. That's what

950
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:30.320
I'm doing right, I forgot that. Gonna say please sorry, I'm sorry.

951
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:35.320
I don't even back knows about the
fake avatar fan. I think something

952
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:40.119
is just wrong with my computer because
this game, like also just isn't running

953
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:42.639
the way it should be. Out
the way too, wasn't running. I

954
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:46.000
was like, maybe that gives us
not trying to think of a good game

955
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:53.239
to do a test a benchmark.
Yeah, maybe like the Division two or

956
01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:55.599
something like that. I don't know. You probably have something in stalled that

957
01:04:55.639 --> 01:04:58.480
has a good benchmark in that.
Do that and we'll see what the results

958
01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:00.559
are. And if it's not where
it should be for you, system may

959
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:01.920
will take a look. And yeah, I think I'm geting under the hood

960
01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:06.000
there. I'm just I'm just over
it. This isn't working like it should.

961
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:10.840
Apparently I should have a separate computer
to run obs on anyways. And

962
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:14.199
I shouldn't like do the tail.
I should like avatars. I should like

963
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:18.440
connect their tails. Yeah, the
tail set the cables. Dude, do

964
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:21.880
the Final Fantasy fourteen bitchmark and let
me know what happens with that. Yes,

965
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:25.559
listen, if you get a good
enough computer these days, you don't

966
01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:28.679
need two computers, but that what
you're running, you probably could still use

967
01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:30.119
it. Like, yeah, I
feel like, like, what with my

968
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:35.639
thirty seventy t I at two K
low settings that should be a very steady

969
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:40.159
sixty fps and it just isn't.
Yeah, there's just isn't. There's something

970
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:45.079
wrong. Yeah, maybe did you
you got to restart your computer? We

971
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:46.199
started with that? Like, no, never mind, thank you, Beck,

972
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:49.400
I'll try that. Try that,
Mike, are you gonna stick with

973
01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:51.400
avatars? I'm playing it, and
I'm like, I am. I do

974
01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:55.599
like the jumping around and running around
as a as a Novi so much that

975
01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:57.719
I'm like, this is like the
kind of game I'm going for right now.

976
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:00.679
It is. It is definitely in
that seven in the eighth zone.

977
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:03.519
It's like really mediately in that seven
to eight zone where but it's like,

978
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:06.800
I'm okay with that because I just
like running around in this space. I

979
01:06:06.840 --> 01:06:10.079
think if you got I think getting
the ecron is gonna bump it up a

980
01:06:10.119 --> 01:06:15.199
bit. I actually the PC problems
are starting to upset me so much that

981
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.000
I don't know if I can play
until I get this fixed. It's okay,

982
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:20.519
yeah, and try it without streaming
let me know what happens too.

983
01:06:20.639 --> 01:06:23.840
Yeah, streaming, It's maybe that
was a problem. I don't know.

984
01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:25.880
But yeah, it's true. I
gotta I'm not gonna have you all do

985
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:27.679
my tech support on a podcast.
No, no, no, let's do

986
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:30.280
it. Let's do it. Run
it. Are you running nvidio coder or

987
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:35.519
you doing on the CPU to play
on right now? I like it a

988
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:40.719
lot actually, so it you know, it was weird. It was running

989
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:44.440
okay on the Lenovo Legion Go for
like the first day, and then every

990
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:46.679
time I try to play it after
that, it like was really unplayable.

991
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:51.480
Twelve frames per second and that software
and that thing does not make it easy

992
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:55.519
to figure out like what's going wrong
or if I have like the full performance

993
01:06:55.920 --> 01:07:00.239
mode selected or whatever. So and
when I did get the performance about don't

994
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:02.000
want time, it was like the
fan was so loud, the loud jams

995
01:07:02.079 --> 01:07:06.199
just like pretty loud. Yep,
that's pretty loud. Jeff, Yeah,

996
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:10.480
I'm sorry. Tried to make it
stop. It was. It was so

997
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:13.239
funny because like, yeah, when
you booted up the game first, it

998
01:07:13.320 --> 01:07:16.159
was completely fine, it looked great, and then like every subsequent time it's

999
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:20.320
just like it sounded like the Lenova
Legion Go was trying to off itself.

1000
01:07:20.800 --> 01:07:24.400
Yes, it was trying to die
and not believe how big that thing was

1001
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:28.599
in real life. Up, it
was just like what were you carrying around

1002
01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:31.679
like a universal power supply with?
Do you think Keely still has those?

1003
01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.760
Did any of those go away?
I'm sure, I'm sure he still has

1004
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:39.719
one hundred of them. Now.
Yeah, I like the Lenovo Legia go

1005
01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:44.480
in a way, but it's it
is big and bulky and weird. I

1006
01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:46.519
like how weird it is. That's
it's like carrying a drone around, like

1007
01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:50.480
it's that big of an incan?
Yeah, how big is the carrying case

1008
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:55.039
for that? Because it has to
be huge luggage. It's a little bit

1009
01:07:55.079 --> 01:07:59.639
bigger than the original steam Gut case, which was big and bulky on its

1010
01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:01.679
own. So yes, it's it's
wild. It did fit in my bag,

1011
01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:08.440
but awkwardly it was definitely like like
bulging out of the sides. Oh

1012
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:12.920
boy, I really thought every time
we take one of these trips, I

1013
01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:16.159
bring too many things. I need
to scale back. Like I finned it

1014
01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:21.039
out this year. I only brought
the switch and used it zero times.

1015
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:25.760
Even that, like, you just
want to be close to it. I

1016
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:28.760
want to. I do need to
at least have that as a security blanket.

1017
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:30.760
But I mean, you know,
we're so busy that by the time

1018
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:33.399
I go back, there is no
downtime, and when I get to the

1019
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:36.279
room or me, there's a little
downtime. I just want to go to

1020
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:42.479
sleep. Yeah, I'm glad,
Jeff, if only we could all be

1021
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:46.039
so lucky. Yeah, I wanted
to bring the Mediquest three while I was

1022
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:50.199
there, but like when you're crazy, Oh my god, I did think

1023
01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:55.680
about that too. We are and
you know this, you're one of us,

1024
01:08:56.159 --> 01:09:00.359
You're you're foos. I was gonna
watch I was gonna watch what's that

1025
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:03.600
Outside the Ring or Beyond the Ring
or tells me the territories that Hulu show,

1026
01:09:04.680 --> 01:09:09.239
the Vice show about wrestling. I
watched an episode of that or I

1027
01:09:09.279 --> 01:09:12.800
wanted to watch an episode of that
in my Meta Quest three last night and

1028
01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.159
I couldn't get it because Hulu's not
supported on there. I was like,

1029
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:17.199
I want to sit and just watch
that in bed last night, and then

1030
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:21.159
yeah, it didn't work out.
Yeah, bad thing. Well, folks,

1031
01:09:21.199 --> 01:09:27.000
I think that's it for games this
week. It's been a long last

1032
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.439
week, flew By. I did
still love to continue talking about that.

1033
01:09:30.520 --> 01:09:33.039
Maybe we'll talk about it some more
on the dump Truck or BCR this week.

1034
01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:36.640
But yeah, I gotta go take
another quick breaking break, and so

1035
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:42.960
does the show, and we'll be
back with some news because hey, the

1036
01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:45.880
news did not stop. Yeah,
week, the news goes on. But

1037
01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:55.279
I think we'd be remiss if we
didn't talk about this actual breaking news topic

1038
01:09:55.439 --> 01:09:59.880
that happened last week and that nice
topic. Sorry, Jeff grep to hijake

1039
01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:01.439
your segment. No, do what
you gotta do. Here's the news music.

1040
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:06.800
Cool, now it's gone. Uh, Jeff backlar. What was your

1041
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:13.119
impressions and feelings upon meeting Michael Minatti
for the first time. Oh? Oh,

1042
01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:16.560
good question, good question. You
know, I put a lot of

1043
01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:20.199
uh, put a lot of stock
into it. I was. I was

1044
01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:27.680
really he was disappointed. You let
me finish gonna be a religious experience and

1045
01:10:27.760 --> 01:10:30.039
didn't quite meet this. Did somebody
recorded? Didn't somebody record it? I

1046
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:34.319
think? Did maybe Tam do it? I can't remember. You know,

1047
01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:39.840
I saw him from Afar. I
was like, what's gonna happen now here?

1048
01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:44.520
There's no avoiding it now. And
you know, you got that he's

1049
01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:47.479
got that like he got those like
sort of high up shoulders and the kind

1050
01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:54.319
of like you know, his posture
is unmistakable. He's always dancing there.

1051
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:59.600
He is far and like I assumed, he was going to be taller than

1052
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:02.760
I thought. And even though I
was expecting the taller person, it's still

1053
01:11:03.600 --> 01:11:09.960
didn't believe it till I saw it. I'm gonna be sure. And the

1054
01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:15.399
embrace was hearty and heart felt and
warm, and I just kind of wanted

1055
01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:18.399
to stay there in that moment for
for a while. It was great.

1056
01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:27.279
Yeah, I've had better, I
know, believe me, I'm a massive

1057
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:31.880
disappointment. Listen, there were multiple
people throughout this trip. First they did

1058
01:11:31.960 --> 01:11:35.239
the whole like did you lose weight
thing, which has now become a terrible

1059
01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:41.640
joke with me. Uh. And
then they also did the someone actually did

1060
01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:45.720
say to me like, wow,
you look drastically different in real life than

1061
01:11:45.840 --> 01:11:48.439
you do on zoom. Yet I
won't blow up this person's spot. But

1062
01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.000
and I couldn't tell if it was
like good or bad. I was assuming

1063
01:11:54.119 --> 01:11:58.600
good and I'll just believe it to
be good. But but yeah, that's

1064
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:00.760
what it was. So it was
bad for you. I'm sorry, Mike,

1065
01:12:01.960 --> 01:12:05.000
No, I was very Yeah.
Actually Jack collected the mall. Now

1066
01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:12.600
if I met everybody at Giebomb in
person, very nice you can for Sewan.

1067
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:15.319
Actually he's been like a mod for
Jeff and I met him. Yet

1068
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:17.680
that'll happen at some point. All
right, we'll make it that make it

1069
01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:25.119
happen, Jeff Grub you ready for
me. I'm ready for you, Bud.

1070
01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:28.640
All right, let's see this first
one real quick. Exc I didn't

1071
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:32.359
write it down, Disney says Indiana
Jones X Xbox exclusive exclusivity deal. Excuse

1072
01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:35.960
me, made financial and strategic sense. They've basically confirmed that that is,

1073
01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:41.439
for real deal going to be an
Xbox exclusive exclusive. We yeah, shoot

1074
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:44.880
exclusive. We knew that was going
to happen because of some of the FTC

1075
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:47.720
filings, but now they're con permanent
publicly, so there you go. It's

1076
01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:51.279
a three C Xbox. Yeah,
it's in one of those Xbox sclusies.

1077
01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:57.039
Yeah, you know they they're uh. It got announced around the time of

1078
01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:00.960
the acquisition from the Pathesta side of
things, the X side of things over

1079
01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:02.800
for machine games. And then when
the acquisition happened, there was like some

1080
01:13:03.079 --> 01:13:06.119
like well they make that exclusive.
Probably not, and it's like, well,

1081
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:10.359
no, they just paid up to
have to like sew up that deal

1082
01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:13.720
and make it expensive. Did they
say it? The play games in exclusive.

1083
01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:15.560
I mean I would as so many. I think they're being pretty coy

1084
01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:19.880
about it, uh because I don't
know why. But yeah, by all

1085
01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:23.640
measures, it seems like it's going
to be exclusive. That's what I've heard,

1086
01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:27.279
but I can't confirm. I think
it's exclusive. Yes, we are

1087
01:13:27.399 --> 01:13:31.439
just fully back on the making IP
games train now and oh yeah, yeah

1088
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:33.560
that's that. I mean that was
going to be the thing. Like if

1089
01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:36.439
we had more time to talk before
the Game Awards, I was gonna be

1090
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:40.399
like, my prediction is we'll see
a lot of IP games because that's the

1091
01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:43.439
trend. And here we are.
It's going to be a big thing for

1092
01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:46.079
the next couple of years because publishers
are scared of any other kind of risk

1093
01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:53.079
right now, uh speaking, being
scared and dying. E three is officially

1094
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:55.720
dead again. I mean, I
don't know how many times it's been this

1095
01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:58.680
time I've been now, but yeah, they have confirmed that E three is

1096
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:02.840
not coming back. The ESA has
decided to end it officially after more than

1097
01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:06.680
two decades. Of course, the
event started in the nineties, went every

1098
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:10.840
year until twenty nineteen, and then
they missed some mears because of pandemic,

1099
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:14.840
but also basically missed those years because
they were bad at it. When they

1100
01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:16.239
did bring it back. Throughout those
years, they tried to partner up with

1101
01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:23.720
other entities to make it happen,
and one group was Jeff Keeley and I

1102
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:27.520
am eight bit and IM a bit
and Jeff Q like they don't seem serious

1103
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:30.000
about this. We're gonna dip and
guess what, we also are doing our

1104
01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:32.960
own things. So Summer Game Fest
has almost completely usurped them, and there's

1105
01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:35.840
kind of no need for you three
now, and the ESA just does not

1106
01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:40.560
have the competency to make it happen
anyhow. So here we are. E

1107
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.119
three is dead. How are we
feeling? I love that? I was

1108
01:14:43.159 --> 01:14:45.079
gonna say, I love that the
fact that, like the only E three

1109
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:50.319
news that anyone has cared about in
the last five years is like basically it

1110
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:55.000
being on life support, Like that's
been the news. The news hasn't been

1111
01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:58.039
like about what it does, like
what could it come back? It's basically

1112
01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:00.960
just like teasing its death for half
a decade. So that should tell you

1113
01:15:01.039 --> 01:15:04.079
that everything the only thing they're really
capable of doing over there where we gonna

1114
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:09.199
die. It's just you know,
it was already on a downward trajectory,

1115
01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:14.319
with people like Sony dropping out around
twenty eighteen twenty nineteen. Then you have

1116
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:17.079
the pandemic. You know, once
it's gone for a bit, it's hard

1117
01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:19.760
to ever come back. I think
that's what they realized when they tried to

1118
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:24.960
bring it back with freed Pop,
because all these companies, the marketing money

1119
01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:28.600
that used to go to E three, it's already going elsewhere. They already

1120
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:31.159
kind of realized that they don't need
it. It's hard to get them back

1121
01:15:31.439 --> 01:15:34.439
now. Yeah, we've found a
lot of E three is dead before this

1122
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:39.319
one is. It's it's almost weird
how much like E three is, like,

1123
01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:42.960
no, we are dead. Yeah
time. I still kind of don't

1124
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:46.199
necessarily believe we're never gonna have it
ether again. Who knows that that name

1125
01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:51.760
still has some value, but certainly
not anytime soon, if ever. Yeah,

1126
01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:56.840
I think if read pop couldn't make
it make sense, it's gonna be

1127
01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:59.760
hard for anyone to make it make
sense. But you're right, E three's

1128
01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:03.760
got a ton of cachet still,
and I don't know, I think that

1129
01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:06.359
could actually wane pretty quickly now that
I think about it. If we get

1130
01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:10.079
a couple of years out people like, what, what do we need E

1131
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:12.760
three for Summer Game Fest. It's
just exactly that, as far as I

1132
01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:15.880
concern, where I sit home and
watch game announcements. So we'll see there's

1133
01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:19.000
three e'se. If you look at
Summer Game Fest, we're pretty close.

1134
01:16:19.119 --> 01:16:23.920
Gents, there it is there,
there's three eyes in my name. Hey

1135
01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:27.359
uh, I failed the last two
days of connections. I feel like an

1136
01:16:27.399 --> 01:16:31.920
idiot. I failed the really easy
one the other day that you guys all

1137
01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:35.159
did at the restaurant, and then
sense that be okay. I've always wanted

1138
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:40.359
a couple of boo boos. I'll
miss it. I'll miss E three.

1139
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:45.039
I actually, I mean I got
into this initially. My big dream was

1140
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.039
to just go to E three.
I thought it was the coolest thing ever

1141
01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:53.840
when I was growing up and going
to E three a bunch of times really

1142
01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:56.359
did mean a lot to me.
It was always a lot of work.

1143
01:16:56.479 --> 01:17:00.920
It can be a lot. I
get like some people in our position get

1144
01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:04.000
over it, but I always appreciate
it. I always thought that there was

1145
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:08.880
something special about that. I'm glad
that, you know, like we solve

1146
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:12.600
Nintendo right with their kind of thing
that they didn't see out around packs.

1147
01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:15.319
That is basically just them taking what
would be their E three booth and making

1148
01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:17.960
it bigger. I hope they could
do more that. I know they had

1149
01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:20.840
to cancel the one they were going
to do in Japan because of threats of

1150
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:25.479
violence or something, but I hoping
that's just a hiccup, and hopefully we

1151
01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:30.079
see Sony, Microsoft and other companies
just do more of their own things like

1152
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:33.800
that so that more people get to
have something like an E three experience.

1153
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.960
Anyways, Yeah, I mean the
part of E three I sorry, Greb,

1154
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:40.760
no, go ahead. The part
of E three I was enjoyed was

1155
01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:45.239
seeing online friends for the first time, sometimes in some cases for the first

1156
01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:49.640
very first time. Like I met
Baklar a couple of years ago at in

1157
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:55.760
the back of a hotel somewhere in
a shady, dimly lit room, and

1158
01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:59.000
it was great. Suh back,
Are you more excited to me? Janeerm

1159
01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:02.760
me? So the next story that
we're going to cover, What the fuck?

1160
01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:09.760
Why is there? Even? The
ESA is an organization that Randy three,

1161
01:18:09.840 --> 01:18:14.039
but they also lobby the government of
the United States on behalf of the

1162
01:18:14.119 --> 01:18:16.920
video game industry. That side of
its business has also sort of been waning,

1163
01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:21.760
though where a lot of companies don't
really pay their dues anymore. They

1164
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:26.359
don't, they're not involved with the
ESA. Some still are. Microsoft still

1165
01:18:26.399 --> 01:18:30.199
is, Nintendo still is. But
these companies just kind of do their lobbying

1166
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:34.399
on their own now and for a
lot of reasons, and the days of

1167
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:38.520
hey, video games are gonna get
banned from stores unless we get less we

1168
01:18:38.560 --> 01:18:43.119
create the ESRB. Mostly beyond that, the video video games have won a

1169
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:47.159
number of First Amendment battles over time, and so they're in a strong position

1170
01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:51.920
when it comes to that stuff and
regulation, you know, loopbox regulation comes

1171
01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:56.159
along every once in a while.
But the ESA was not great at helping

1172
01:18:56.199 --> 01:19:00.479
the industry deal with slash battle that
so it's value overall seems pretty limited,

1173
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:04.000
and I wouldn't be surprised in a
couple of years we just the essay is

1174
01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:09.479
maybe just a name on a letterhead
and that's it, and doesn't really do

1175
01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:12.279
anything real, maybe even shut down
entirely. I don't know. It's like

1176
01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:16.079
the nWay. It's gonna come back
around exactly just as popular too, really

1177
01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:21.119
huge merch sales for the ESSA,
all right. Insomniac has reportedly been hacked.

1178
01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:26.359
Insomniac Games. The developer behind Spider
Man has reportedly faced a cyber attack

1179
01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:30.600
from the ransomware group Resida. The
attack threatens to expose sensitive data about the

1180
01:19:30.680 --> 01:19:34.880
studio, its employees, and upcoming
games. The hackers have already published proof

1181
01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:41.439
of the breach, including images from
Insomniac's upcoming Wolverine and potentially revealing artwork of

1182
01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:45.800
other Marvel characters. In the PS
five title, The stolen data compromises employee

1183
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:50.039
passports, passport scans, personal documents
related to Spider Man voice actor Uri Lowenthal,

1184
01:19:51.079 --> 01:19:57.840
internal emails, and confidential documents.
That's fucked up that they are both

1185
01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:01.119
like saying, hey, us money
and we'll pull this down. And they're

1186
01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:04.760
putting it up for auction right now, starting at fifty bitcoins, which is

1187
01:20:04.800 --> 01:20:12.039
about two months two million dollars.
Sony has not commented at least since the

1188
01:20:12.079 --> 01:20:17.279
time of this this note taking here, Yes for that, okay, pay

1189
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:23.039
two million dollars for some random people's
personal information into like I don't know,

1190
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:26.239
discover that they're making a new Ratchet
and Clank in five years. Well,

1191
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:30.920
if they have the source code for
these video games, there are some entities.

1192
01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:34.960
I said it again. This has
happened before where somebodies in China have

1193
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:40.039
purchased source code so they could make
copies of games, you know, not

1194
01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:43.199
to put too fine then anyways,
yeah, I mean right, but for

1195
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:45.439
some reason they still want to buy
the source code. Sometimes this has happened

1196
01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:49.039
before. I wish I could remember
the case, but that that's happened before.

1197
01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:53.760
I still doubt that someone's going to
pay two million dollars for it,

1198
01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:57.039
but you know they might, someone
might. I don't know. Hey,

1199
01:20:57.159 --> 01:21:00.399
all those when all those casinos in
Vegas got hacked, like some of them

1200
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:04.279
actually paid up. Yeah right,
yeah, I mean there you get one

1201
01:21:04.279 --> 01:21:06.840
of the hats onto it for sure, you were saying, ask going to

1202
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:10.840
pay up or I doubt it,
just kind of let it go. I

1203
01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:15.079
mean, I imagine the personal information
is probably almost more painful than again,

1204
01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:18.840
like releasing their slate for the next
few years, right, uh, righting.

1205
01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:25.159
As Michael R. O'Leary points out
in chat, the passport scans and

1206
01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:28.399
stuff like that, there's a lot
of personal data you could do more with,

1207
01:21:28.800 --> 01:21:30.039
uh than just the source code.
But I think I think the source

1208
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:33.159
code is probably the most valuable thing
in there. If it's if it is

1209
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:35.439
in there. It seems like it
probably would be if they have as much

1210
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:40.239
data as they're saying they do.
The day before, you guys, you

1211
01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:44.399
guys follow this at all. Happened
while we were traveling, Yeah, a

1212
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:47.520
little bit. It seems like absolute
joy. Huh yeah. So it's a

1213
01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:53.199
bit of a kerfuffle. But these
are my notes because for me, I

1214
01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:57.359
put this game immediately the second we
saw anything about it. This immediately went

1215
01:21:57.439 --> 01:22:00.920
in the well, that's not real, Like, that's nothing. I don't

1216
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:02.039
have to worry about that. That's
just a bad game. I'm not going

1217
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:04.800
to give them out my money.
Turns out a lot of people did give

1218
01:22:04.840 --> 01:22:09.520
them their money though the development and
that happened over this past week when it

1219
01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:14.239
launched in early access as a extraction
shooter, something the game never the developers

1220
01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:16.680
never said it was going to be. It's like a live service, you

1221
01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:21.479
know, a living multiplayer live service
extraction shooter, not a very good one.

1222
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:25.600
Almost nothing happens in the game.
Uh, they just took a lot

1223
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:29.560
of assets from the store. Whatever, it's a bad game. Fantastic to

1224
01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:32.640
developer is shutting down though. About
four days after launching the game, they

1225
01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:34.920
said, hey, we're shutting down
and we're going to use the money we

1226
01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:39.039
got to pay off our debts.
Hey, we're going to refund everybody.

1227
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:41.640
So that's where people are like,
oh, they're taking the money and running

1228
01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:45.640
and maybe they are, but hey, if you bought this game one,

1229
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:47.359
I don't get why you did that, but if you did, you're allowed

1230
01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:49.479
to do what you were with your
money, what you want. So if

1231
01:22:49.479 --> 01:22:53.600
you did buy it and you played
more than the two hours where Steam automatically

1232
01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:57.840
gives you refund, just open ticket. Steam will refund you. I guarantee

1233
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:00.039
you they're going to refund. You, Go get your money, and then

1234
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:04.000
sort of problem solved. My overall
take of this, though, is that

1235
01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:09.680
this is kind of the what makes
gaming fun is that someone can do something

1236
01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:12.960
as wild as this and put the
game out on Steam and people are like,

1237
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:15.319
I'll check this out, like this
is one of the best years in

1238
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:17.560
gaming history, and people are still
like, maybe I want to play the

1239
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:21.840
day before here, take forty dollars
or whatever the fuck it was. Serta

1240
01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:25.000
point, you got to be on
the line a little bit yourself. You

1241
01:23:25.039 --> 01:23:29.239
gotta make good decisions here. Yeah, and so I kind of like like

1242
01:23:29.239 --> 01:23:30.279
people are like, oh, the
Steam should police this. I'm like,

1243
01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:33.840
I think we could have told could
we could tell from a distance what this

1244
01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:36.640
game was, and then if you
still want to try and like maybe there's

1245
01:23:36.680 --> 01:23:40.880
something there, I think that's it's
on you. But also I think I

1246
01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:44.960
get that because every once in a
while a game does you know, there's

1247
01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:48.159
a diamond in the rough or whatever. But like, I also think it's

1248
01:23:48.159 --> 01:23:51.079
a little bit inspirational because if someone
could look at like, look at these

1249
01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:54.640
people who don't know what they're doing. They did put out a game that's

1250
01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:58.399
basically a scam. What if like
and it looks at like it was easy

1251
01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:00.760
for them. They just went on
the asset store put a bunch of packs

1252
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:02.720
together. What if I started doing
that? And what's gonna happen is it's

1253
01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:06.920
like those bad mobile games where you
see someone playing a mobile game poorly and

1254
01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:09.960
it makes you want to go,
like, I could do better than that.

1255
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:13.279
I think that's what happens here,
where someone's like, I could make

1256
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:15.920
that game, do it better,
and maybe they like stumble across the idea

1257
01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:18.600
and you know, you could put
it out on Steam because that crappy game

1258
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:21.159
got out on Steam. So if
you do a decent job, you might

1259
01:24:21.199 --> 01:24:26.039
have a much better chance. I
think it's like the dynamic market working a

1260
01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:30.319
little bit. And yeah, I
mean sometimes someone's gonna get away with something,

1261
01:24:30.399 --> 01:24:33.039
I suppose, But again, go
get your refunds. There's no reason

1262
01:24:33.119 --> 01:24:36.680
to be like this is a scam
and they're the brilliant criminals who got away

1263
01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:40.199
with it. No, just go
get your money back. Valve will be

1264
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:43.479
able to back charge them or whatever. It's all gonna work out in the

1265
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.279
end, as long as you go
get your money back. I don't really

1266
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:49.840
know what else to feel about this
beyond that the people who are buying this

1267
01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:56.279
are like probably a crossover of the
people who like put money down on a

1268
01:24:56.439 --> 01:25:01.039
Calleco vision, right, Like,
I think whatever that group of people,

1269
01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:04.439
whatever demographic that is, like,
I just want to I just want to

1270
01:25:04.479 --> 01:25:06.680
interview a lot of people in that
group. I just want to talk to

1271
01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:10.800
them. Yeah, it's a great
chutes. I'm not thinking of the kids.

1272
01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:14.199
What kids are on Steam buying this
game. That's not how are buying

1273
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.720
stuff with credit card with when you're
a kid without parents of supervision whatever.

1274
01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:19.680
I'm sure that does happen. But
go get your refunds. Go keep your

1275
01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:24.840
dumb They can't. They can't.
They can't like suus out bullshit and help

1276
01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:28.479
you, right if that that can
happen, But I don't think that rises

1277
01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:30.119
to level off. We need Steam
to protect us from ourselves. We can

1278
01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:34.600
probably let these things through for the
most part. And what's going to happen

1279
01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:39.039
here is is what's happened. This
game is now as a black mark on

1280
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:42.359
it. It was going to crash
and burn anyhow, whether or not the

1281
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:45.239
studio like was going to make another
game. The studio is trying to like

1282
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:48.359
rebrand, they like say hey,
we're closing the studio and then they change

1283
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:51.680
their name on the back end on
Steam. But people are tracking this stuff

1284
01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:56.520
and keeping and the reporting on it, and it's like gamers are so engaged

1285
01:25:56.920 --> 01:26:00.760
that it like you can't actually pull
this thing twice. This is the studio

1286
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:02.680
is not going to be able to
get away with this again. So I

1287
01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:05.880
think it's most most of these systems
working the way they should be. So

1288
01:26:06.319 --> 01:26:11.319
yeah, I'm just I'm like,
ah, if you don't how'd you know

1289
01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:13.760
not to not buy this game or
how do you not know that just don't

1290
01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:16.800
buy it? I don't get it, all right. A Zelda producer wants

1291
01:26:16.840 --> 01:26:20.399
to keep working on more open games, and everyone is mad at him.

1292
01:26:20.760 --> 01:26:27.319
Legend of Zelda series producer ag Altinuma
believes that traditional the linear series entries are

1293
01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:30.159
games of the past. He calls
requests from some fans to return to that

1294
01:26:30.239 --> 01:26:35.079
to that style a sort of nostalgia
play switch. Zelda Entri's Breath of the

1295
01:26:35.119 --> 01:26:39.760
Wild and Teers of the Kingdom revolutionize
the series' long standing formula with a shift

1296
01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:43.520
to open world gameplay and systems which
empower players to tackle the game in a

1297
01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:47.079
huge number of ways. The injries
have proved incredibly successful and selling combined fifty

1298
01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:51.359
million units. Previously, the best
selling Zelda game was Wee's Twilight Princess at

1299
01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:55.840
nine million in sales. Anuma said
he believed the games where you need to

1300
01:26:55.920 --> 01:27:00.880
follow a specific set path or complete
tasks and a very set order were kind

1301
01:27:00.960 --> 01:27:03.279
of games of the past, and
people were like, oh, but we

1302
01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:06.119
like those old things for other reasons, and there could be more fun in

1303
01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:11.119
that in that style. And I
don't necessarily think he's saying that they'll never

1304
01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:14.159
make one of those again. He's
just saying, like, though, that

1305
01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:16.479
that is not the future of the
series, which I think is fair and

1306
01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:21.279
true and probably correct. Right yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's hard.

1307
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:25.199
I mean, it is just so
crazy this. You know, we

1308
01:27:25.279 --> 01:27:28.520
tak that Zelda has always been this
big deal, right, but yeah,

1309
01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:31.399
like right, what these open world
games have been so much bigger like a

1310
01:27:31.479 --> 01:27:35.439
link between worlds, which is so
acclaim, right, it is so much

1311
01:27:35.640 --> 01:27:39.479
more that traditional style. It's a
bit more open you can do that.

1312
01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:43.560
This is in any order, so
like a bit less than five million copies

1313
01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:45.399
I think right on a three D
S which was a pretty popular system.

1314
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:50.279
So it's not like there was a
problem there. There's still ways that you

1315
01:27:50.319 --> 01:27:53.960
know, there are more ways to
do an open world Zoda, Like it

1316
01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:57.439
doesn't have to be a breath of
the wild uh clone necessarily. Right.

1317
01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:00.640
We saw here's the keydom kind of
making things that were a bit more like

1318
01:28:01.039 --> 01:28:06.319
traditional dungeons. They could still really
throw in different school dungeons into these games.

1319
01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:10.159
There's still a lot they can do
to add a little bit more of

1320
01:28:10.359 --> 01:28:14.520
that Okerina of Time style flavor if
they want to, and I imagine some

1321
01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:16.840
of that stuff will creep in there. Yeah, and they're probably gonna have

1322
01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:21.399
their like partner studios that they work
with do stuff like like Grezo is probably

1323
01:28:21.399 --> 01:28:24.800
going to make another Zelda or something
like that, a two D top down

1324
01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:28.640
Zelda that could be in the Nostalgic
series. But igion Numa and his team,

1325
01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:30.359
they're looking, they're gonna be looking
to the future, and I think

1326
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:34.039
they're right. I think after Akerena
of Time, I think they gotten a

1327
01:28:34.119 --> 01:28:39.239
rut of Oh, Zelda is linked
to the past with a new with a

1328
01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:42.359
new spin, a new gimmick,
and it's like, actually, it could

1329
01:28:42.479 --> 01:28:45.319
just be the original legend of Zelda
but opened up in different ways. And

1330
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:48.159
they took them a while to get
back to that with Breath of the Wild,

1331
01:28:48.600 --> 01:28:50.439
but people just assume, no,
no, it's always got to be

1332
01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:54.600
linked to the past with a new
gimmick. And it's like they did that

1333
01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:57.159
a bunch of times. I don't
mess why. I think we need to

1334
01:28:57.199 --> 01:28:59.520
run back to that right away.
Yeah, we got we have like ten

1335
01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:01.680
games thing that we're basically linked to
the passing. You know, some of

1336
01:29:01.760 --> 01:29:05.279
them definitely straight from the formula more
than others, like George Mask and that

1337
01:29:05.479 --> 01:29:11.159
was appreciated. But we had two
of these open world style games. I

1338
01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:15.399
think there's definitely more juice to squeeze
there yep, and uh again, they're

1339
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:18.960
gonna they will have other offshoot games
that probably will do that. And also

1340
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:23.039
like, this is a genre where
I think indies will fill in the space

1341
01:29:23.079 --> 01:29:26.000
a little bit. Chances of Sinnar
if you were like, man, I

1342
01:29:26.039 --> 01:29:29.239
wish someone to make like old style
Zelda puzzle games and you haven't played Chances

1343
01:29:29.239 --> 01:29:31.640
of Sinnar like that. The the
spin there is it's about languages, but

1344
01:29:31.680 --> 01:29:38.760
otherwise it's about these or even a
cocoon Cozelda like in its puzzles. They

1345
01:29:38.800 --> 01:29:43.479
should make a new three D dot
game Heroes whatever that was called, at

1346
01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:45.920
least reported. I think that game's
actually still just stuck on Plazation three,

1347
01:29:46.279 --> 01:29:53.159
which is insane. Yeah. Yeah, I'd also recommend checking out Ana Dyne

1348
01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:58.039
or Ana Dyne two very good,
what I assume is Zelda likes as well,

1349
01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:01.880
and cross code cross Code that came
out Oscar ex very much. Is

1350
01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:05.880
that game. That game fried my
brain. I was like thirty hours into

1351
01:30:05.960 --> 01:30:10.439
it and it seemed like I was
only halfway through the story and the puzzles

1352
01:30:10.479 --> 01:30:12.920
were pretty intense, and I was
I was able to do them, but

1353
01:30:12.920 --> 01:30:16.000
at a certain point I don't usually
stop playing games that I invest that much

1354
01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:19.800
time into but I was like,
Okay, I get a cross code very

1355
01:30:19.880 --> 01:30:23.760
well may game though, and hey, isn't a Are we gonna get Beyond

1356
01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:28.960
Good and Evil? Uh? Remaster? That shit basically Operate of Time Like

1357
01:30:29.640 --> 01:30:31.319
yep, so it's happening. There
are still going to be games like that,

1358
01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:34.479
and Nintendo will probably even make some
of them. I want them to

1359
01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:41.239
give Link an airplane. Oh yeah, like pilots, like give them give

1360
01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:45.079
them a yeah. Like if you
told me, oh, we're gonna do

1361
01:30:45.159 --> 01:30:46.479
ze but with trains, that would
have sounded like the Gracing ever. And

1362
01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:48.960
that's one of the worst entries in
this series, was it. I thought

1363
01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:55.399
people like Spirit Tracks. No,
there like a winterized Zelda. I know

1364
01:30:55.479 --> 01:31:00.920
there's like winter Lands that Zelda.
There's something like Skyrim, but yeah,

1365
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:04.159
I think I want like Winter Winter
Sports Link like I think I want you

1366
01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:06.560
get still more to Breath of the
Wild, End Tiers of the Kingdom Sol.

1367
01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:13.399
Yeah. Oh, and there's that
big snowy temple and Trili Princess that

1368
01:31:13.479 --> 01:31:15.760
was like one of the best dungeons
ever like that. It was like that

1369
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:23.199
Yeti's House or whatever. Remember it's
great. Epic Games defeats Google in anti

1370
01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:27.439
trust legal trial. Google has lost
its anti trust trial to Epic Games.

1371
01:31:27.439 --> 01:31:30.079
The jury found that Google had created
a monopoly with its Google Play Store on

1372
01:31:30.199 --> 01:31:34.600
Android devices, and that it had
violated anti trust loss by by taking a

1373
01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:40.479
thirty percent revenue share from apps and
requiring them to use Google Plays billing system.

1374
01:31:40.920 --> 01:31:44.560
Atic called the decision a win for
all app developers and consumers around the

1375
01:31:44.600 --> 01:31:47.000
world. It is not yet clear
what changes the verdict will bring to the

1376
01:31:47.039 --> 01:31:50.720
way the app stores are run in
the future. I imagine what this is

1377
01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:55.279
going to look like is kind of
what Microsoft is doing with its store already

1378
01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:59.439
without having to be asked by regulators, which is, you could put stuff

1379
01:31:59.439 --> 01:32:02.640
on our store and you can use
whatever payment billing system you want, or

1380
01:32:03.039 --> 01:32:08.199
you can put your own stores in
Google Play. So on Android, I've

1381
01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:11.479
always been able to install outside stores, right, we can sideload whatever we

1382
01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:15.279
want on there. I've had I
put the Amazon App Store on my Android

1383
01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:18.640
device eleven years ago, forever ago. It was forever going that launch,

1384
01:32:18.680 --> 01:32:20.720
and you could just put that on
there, and then I stopped doing that

1385
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:23.880
because it was kind of a hassle
and I didn't care anymore. But you

1386
01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:27.840
could always do that. What the
problem here is that most people don't go

1387
01:32:28.199 --> 01:32:31.119
that side loading route and take the
long way. If it's not in the

1388
01:32:31.159 --> 01:32:34.520
Google Play Store itself, they don't
take it exists. And what this is

1389
01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:40.119
saying is like using that cudgel,
Google was doing something here that was anti

1390
01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:42.640
competitive and so they're going to have
to open it up a little bit.

1391
01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:45.479
And a lot of this stuff people
knew this was coming. This is why

1392
01:32:45.560 --> 01:32:46.800
Microsoft has been like, we're gonna
make our own bubble store and have it

1393
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:50.359
ready to go because we think regulation
is about to change. Well, guess

1394
01:32:50.399 --> 01:32:56.079
what. Regulation has just changed basically, So this is a good But this

1395
01:32:56.079 --> 01:32:58.439
is a good thing. I think
in the long run, more competition in

1396
01:32:58.479 --> 01:33:03.319
these spaces should help create a different
variety of app store that maybe can enable

1397
01:33:03.439 --> 01:33:06.319
different kinds of games to thrive.
Because right now it's just Candy Crush,

1398
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:10.760
Saga and a few other things Pokemon
Go and nothing else has a chance to

1399
01:33:11.079 --> 01:33:16.119
really get any oxygen on those platforms. So refresh my memory here. Epic

1400
01:33:16.199 --> 01:33:21.039
and Apple who fought over the same
exact thing. There was a little different.

1401
01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:26.600
Yeah, that's the one where they
made that cartoon to advertise the lawsuit.

1402
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:30.840
Hey, Apple, you've become the
thing you hated. But Apple did

1403
01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:38.880
win most of that lawsuit, right, So meaning now does that mean like

1404
01:33:39.359 --> 01:33:44.600
they are still allowed to take the
percentage? Right? Yeah? I mean

1405
01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:48.359
yeah, But that's like a big
thing here is that Epic had a much

1406
01:33:48.399 --> 01:33:51.359
better legal team on this one.
But also, like I see three points

1407
01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:57.279
out, Google paid phone manufacturers not
to include Fortnite on new phones since they

1408
01:33:57.319 --> 01:34:00.840
paid money to quash Epic and became
a problem, Like it was beyond even

1409
01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:03.880
what Apple did, so and that
was a very specific thing, but like

1410
01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:10.039
that the ramifications that were further reaching
than just don't do that anymore. It's

1411
01:34:10.119 --> 01:34:13.840
that the way you run your store
is wrong and you cannot do it anymore.

1412
01:34:14.279 --> 01:34:16.720
So that and that will come for
Apple eventually. Apple will likely just

1413
01:34:16.840 --> 01:34:20.920
change it here on their own to
avoid this so they can have some control

1414
01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:26.199
over it. But otherwise that this
will come for them eventually, and they're

1415
01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:30.479
going to have to change their store
as well, all right, And then

1416
01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:33.199
Epic says Fortnite's new Lego, racing
and festival modes are here to stay.

1417
01:34:33.279 --> 01:34:38.239
Epic has confirmed that Fortnite's three new
game modes are permanent additions to the free

1418
01:34:38.279 --> 01:34:41.720
to play title the new modes,
which they refer to as just games,

1419
01:34:42.039 --> 01:34:47.119
not as modes here they are,
Yes, Lego Fortnite, which is kind

1420
01:34:47.159 --> 01:34:53.079
of like Minecraft, Rocket Racing,
which is a supersonic arcade racer that uses

1421
01:34:53.159 --> 01:34:57.279
the Rocket League cars, and Fortnite
Festival, a music game where players can

1422
01:34:57.319 --> 01:35:01.239
perform in a band with friends.
It's rock band with controllers. You know,

1423
01:35:01.319 --> 01:35:05.479
I've heard mixed things on Rocket Racing
and Fortnite Festival, but people seem

1424
01:35:05.560 --> 01:35:10.479
really hot on that Lego Fortnite thing. And I forgot to say, but

1425
01:35:10.479 --> 01:35:13.520
I was playing that last night for
a couple of hours with my brothers.

1426
01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:17.520
Racing one. No, the Lego
one, which it's funny like Lego Fortnite,

1427
01:35:17.560 --> 01:35:21.760
there's very little Fortnite in that.
It's really just like one of those

1428
01:35:21.800 --> 01:35:27.840
survival games. People in my chat
weer saying it was very Valheim like,

1429
01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:30.439
right, A little for sure,
but yeah, I mean, you know,

1430
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:34.279
we had a little camp and we
were like going out on expeditions to

1431
01:35:34.279 --> 01:35:38.720
get resources we can come back and
build up the camp more. And that

1432
01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:43.000
was basically your loop there. Like
the Lego ness of it was basically just

1433
01:35:43.159 --> 01:35:45.640
you know, building your buildings a
bit stuff like that it's not even like

1434
01:35:45.760 --> 01:35:50.279
Minecraft in terms of the freedom you
get there, or at least from what

1435
01:35:50.359 --> 01:35:54.439
I was seeing. Yeah, it's
it's it is weird because it is.

1436
01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:59.000
It's just a different game. Again, very little to do with Fortnite.

1437
01:36:00.039 --> 01:36:04.239
I tried a little bit of the
racing game and it didn't quite enjoy how

1438
01:36:04.319 --> 01:36:09.079
it felt. Yeah, that's what
I've been People are thinks I had high

1439
01:36:09.359 --> 01:36:11.960
high hope streams. Yeah, yeah, that's why. So I'm like,

1440
01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.399
oh, I love the way those
cars fill in Rocket League, so you

1441
01:36:14.439 --> 01:36:15.920
could apply that to a race scame
pretty easily. But people are like,

1442
01:36:16.199 --> 01:36:19.560
it's kind of boring actually, especially
compared to something Mario Kart. It just

1443
01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:24.760
doesn't stand up to that to other
entries in that genre. Yeah. Yeah.

1444
01:36:26.439 --> 01:36:29.399
Modern Warfare three sales in the UK
are down thirty eight percent compared to

1445
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:32.319
last year's Modern Warfare two. Modern
Warfare three top the UK software sales chart

1446
01:36:32.359 --> 01:36:36.239
in November, but it fell significantly
short of the launch enjoyed by last year's

1447
01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:40.800
Call of Duty game. Modern Warfare
three sales during the game's first three weeks

1448
01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:45.680
of available availability were thirty eight percent
lower than Modern Warfare two's following it's released

1449
01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:49.640
last October. Activisions Shooter managed to
hold off competition for me a Sports of

1450
01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:54.880
Football Club twenty four and the rest
of the games released. But yeah,

1451
01:36:55.439 --> 01:36:59.079
that's not too surprising. I think
most people are like, yeah, I'll

1452
01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:01.079
still show up for a a new
Call of Duty. But a certain chunk

1453
01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:04.279
of the audience was like, this
does feel like DLC, and maybe I

1454
01:37:04.319 --> 01:37:06.800
don't need to pick it up,
but I don't know. Whatever I play

1455
01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:09.880
it, I have a good time
with this one. It's good. I

1456
01:37:10.079 --> 01:37:15.000
am. It's fucking like the obviously
the campaign is dogshit, but like the

1457
01:37:15.119 --> 01:37:19.399
multiplayer is good, like they did
a really good job with those map remakes

1458
01:37:19.479 --> 01:37:25.399
or whatever, but obviously, like
it's not I could have totally sympathize with

1459
01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:28.720
someone not wanting to pay full price
for like whatever it is you do get

1460
01:37:28.920 --> 01:37:33.439
for that money. To me,
it's like, oh, just if you

1461
01:37:33.640 --> 01:37:38.800
just give me the opportunity to play
Modern Warfare three multiplayer and not spend full

1462
01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:42.399
price, Like can we close that
gap? Like that to me seems like

1463
01:37:42.920 --> 01:37:45.720
something I'm sure they are considering,
right, Like, yeah, you know,

1464
01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:51.239
if I thirty dollars to just like
get up to speed, I think

1465
01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:56.119
that's what they wanted to avoid,
though, is putting out something that felt

1466
01:37:56.239 --> 01:38:00.039
reduced They want that seventy dollars hit. Yeah, and they took what was

1467
01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:03.520
probably going to be a forty dollars
expansion of some sort, sure, and

1468
01:38:03.640 --> 01:38:10.199
instead releases a seventy dollars by shitting
out a pretty poor campaign. So yeah,

1469
01:38:10.439 --> 01:38:13.640
they clearly considered it and then they
backtracked on it. I wonder if

1470
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:15.760
the reception. I wonder they're like, hey, if it was like the

1471
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:20.600
best selling DLC ever, as compared
to like a pretty poor selling Call of

1472
01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:23.640
Duty, I wonder if they would
feel different about that, like, yeah,

1473
01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:25.920
maybe we should have done the DLC
thing. I don't know, Yeah,

1474
01:38:26.079 --> 01:38:30.760
I think in the grossest way possible. Maybe the strategy was like,

1475
01:38:30.520 --> 01:38:33.359
well, let's just see what we
can do with this, and then maybe

1476
01:38:33.439 --> 01:38:36.680
later on, right, we can
charge less if like, let's see what

1477
01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:39.960
we can get away with, like
let's see where the bottom is. And

1478
01:38:40.720 --> 01:38:44.239
they're definitely approaching the bottom with something
like this where people like won't accept it

1479
01:38:44.319 --> 01:38:49.880
anymore. They'll know next year if
the sentiment carries over which Call of Duty

1480
01:38:49.960 --> 01:38:55.239
is kind of a little bit inoculated
against that because they'll be well, this

1481
01:38:55.439 --> 01:38:58.640
next one is not from Infinity Ward
or whatever. Right, it's a different

1482
01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:00.840
team, and I have different feelings
about this one than I do about Modern

1483
01:39:00.840 --> 01:39:03.880
Warfare, and it sort of resets
the counter in terms of how people are

1484
01:39:03.920 --> 01:39:05.840
feeling about Call of Duty, Like, yeah, I didn't like the last

1485
01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:09.199
one, but this is from that
team. Maybe they have some new ideas

1486
01:39:09.319 --> 01:39:13.159
or this is my favorite team,
So it's kind of they're kind of protected

1487
01:39:13.159 --> 01:39:16.720
from that a little bit. They're
gonna have to start to distance themselves from

1488
01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:24.880
like showing a trailer of the campaign, Like that's just not tickling anyone's like

1489
01:39:25.279 --> 01:39:30.720
wetting anyone's appetite anymore, don't.
I don't think they are focusing in on

1490
01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:36.039
the things that really matter for the
audience that continually comes back to this game.

1491
01:39:36.159 --> 01:39:41.199
I just feel like there is a
bit of incongruency between that point,

1492
01:39:41.399 --> 01:39:44.920
that side of marketing it and the
audience, Right, I just think there's

1493
01:39:45.399 --> 01:39:49.479
there They're a bit disconnected in that
capacity. But yes, I would be

1494
01:39:49.560 --> 01:39:55.800
lying if I said that the multiplayer
is boring. It is not. It

1495
01:39:55.880 --> 01:40:00.239
is very good. There's so many
maps they play really well, and I'm

1496
01:40:00.279 --> 01:40:05.920
still fucking Nicki Minaj. I'm still
playing Yeah, I'm playing because it's great.

1497
01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:11.119
Yep, I'm doing all that.
I'm doing all that and it's awesome

1498
01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:14.760
and I love that. Like I'm
upsetting someone when I kill them as her.

1499
01:40:14.920 --> 01:40:18.720
That's definitely happening in that. It
feels very good. Keep doing that.

1500
01:40:19.279 --> 01:40:23.319
But now I would like you to
put the entire cast of Cheers.

1501
01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:30.159
Yeah, yeah, if you could
just allow me to be Norm or perhaps

1502
01:40:30.279 --> 01:40:35.119
Woody Harrelson's character or even Ted Danson, if I could play give me the

1503
01:40:35.279 --> 01:40:41.479
dancing pack Pearl Frazer. That counts
still, Like, why are we not

1504
01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:46.079
doing this? What? Like,
I'm sorry you put in fucking old school

1505
01:40:46.159 --> 01:40:53.199
Shredder, you put in spawn.
The next logical person is a member of

1506
01:40:53.479 --> 01:40:58.439
the gang. Mac for you about
the current cultural relevance of Tears, even

1507
01:40:58.520 --> 01:41:03.199
though there is technically Cheers ask content
these days with that Fraser reboot. Yeah,

1508
01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:06.439
I don't care what happening. I'm
sorry the Fraser reboot was bad.

1509
01:41:06.760 --> 01:41:10.840
What's it bad? I don't know, I just never saw apparently. Yeah,

1510
01:41:12.079 --> 01:41:16.279
I'll stand by a back Lar.
I want my USA characters are welcome

1511
01:41:16.399 --> 01:41:19.880
pack with They'll get around to that
eventually, right, Yeah, give me

1512
01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:25.800
suits, give me Monky shouts out
to my cych hoose and burn, where's

1513
01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:29.079
my white collar? Come on?
Okay, how should I forget? How

1514
01:41:29.119 --> 01:41:32.479
could you forget? I would also
like to play as like Logan Roy in

1515
01:41:33.159 --> 01:41:38.720
your Call of Duty. I think
that like Fortnite's quickly exhausting, like the

1516
01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:41.560
ground it can cover, and it's
going to have to start getting into stuff

1517
01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:45.600
like that, Like nostalgic television characters, seems like one that's gonna make a

1518
01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:49.319
lot of sense. Huh, let's
go, I can finally learn about what

1519
01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:56.479
that is. Oh ass Flames,
you're right playing as Balki from Perfect Strangers

1520
01:41:56.680 --> 01:42:02.399
in Fortnite or or Call of Duty
like I do. It's just sorry about

1521
01:42:02.439 --> 01:42:06.760
how the theme song to Kirby and
the Forgotten Land made both me and my

1522
01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:12.439
wife think of the theme song from
Perfect Strangers and like why are we singing

1523
01:42:12.479 --> 01:42:14.880
that? And we both look at
the TV and my kids playing and we're

1524
01:42:14.920 --> 01:42:16.520
like what, Oh, it's that
song. It just sounds exactly like that.

1525
01:42:16.720 --> 01:42:19.600
There's something happening there. Apparently apparently
a lot of people had that.

1526
01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:26.039
Give me the Golden Girls. I
want to be Bland. Yeah, a

1527
01:42:26.119 --> 01:42:29.039
four person squad of the Golden Girls. Yes, let's go. I think

1528
01:42:29.079 --> 01:42:32.039
Golden Girls is more relevant than Cheers
these days going on kind of It's like

1529
01:42:32.199 --> 01:42:36.399
me though, you know, there's
not enough Cheers means is the problem?

1530
01:42:36.439 --> 01:42:40.159
We haven't. Yeah, you're right, there's almost none, or at least

1531
01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:44.600
that I've seen, we don't.
Yeah, dude, give me the growing

1532
01:42:44.680 --> 01:42:51.039
Pains family. You mean Michael,
Michael? Yeah? Remember? Oh yeah,

1533
01:42:51.600 --> 01:43:00.079
Leo's character and Boner there was right, no Boner own that thinks something

1534
01:43:00.079 --> 01:43:02.359
like bad happen. I think he
had a bad end, all right,

1535
01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:05.560
Boner. I don't want to I
don't want to know. I guess that

1536
01:43:05.680 --> 01:43:10.119
was what's the face some star treks
like Sun or something while they're culling or

1537
01:43:10.199 --> 01:43:14.520
something. Yeah, sorry, I'm
sorry I brought the moody. Well,

1538
01:43:14.800 --> 01:43:15.960
hey, no, thanks for doing
that because that helps us lead into this

1539
01:43:16.319 --> 01:43:20.399
next Downer story. And estimated nine
thousand people have lost their jobs in the

1540
01:43:20.439 --> 01:43:25.760
games industry this year. We're approaching
ten thousand. The you know, the

1541
01:43:25.800 --> 01:43:29.359
guiltiest companies in terms of cutting job
the jobs this year Unity, Byte,

1542
01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:32.800
Dance, which is TikTok, which
is Marvel, Snap, Embracer Group,

1543
01:43:32.880 --> 01:43:36.319
Epic, and Amazon. But you
know, if you're looking for companies that

1544
01:43:36.359 --> 01:43:40.800
didn't cut jobs. That's a smaller
list. There's like including the list of

1545
01:43:40.800 --> 01:43:45.239
cutting jobs obviously, Xbox, Sony, CD, Project Red, Ubisoft,

1546
01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:48.800
Ride Games, Blizzard, Let's see
Crystal Dynamics, Electronic Arts, Take to

1547
01:43:49.039 --> 01:43:54.600
Buy, Aware, Striking Distance,
Team Seventeen, Frontier Developments, Telltale Games,

1548
01:43:54.640 --> 01:44:00.159
Digital Extreames, and Digital Bros.
And we could probably expect there's more.

1549
01:44:00.199 --> 01:44:04.000
They aren't even listening to here.
Oh yes, so we don't know

1550
01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:08.079
like how things a net out,
but clearly what does that matter to the

1551
01:44:08.079 --> 01:44:11.119
people who are having their jobs cut
in the moment, like that this is

1552
01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:15.640
disruptive to their lives, and it
just continues to show how volatile the gaming

1553
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:18.119
industry is. Everyone. Some people
are like, man, we Jeff Keey

1554
01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:21.439
needs to say something about this,
boy, was that not gonna happen?

1555
01:44:21.560 --> 01:44:26.479
Yeah, Like we weren't even close
to like the games getting like the love

1556
01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:30.520
they need, let alone any sort
of fuck critique about the overall industry.

1557
01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:31.800
I think by the end of that
show, everybody it's like, well,

1558
01:44:31.800 --> 01:44:39.319
we were silly forever thinking that.
It's yeah, I guess we're real quick.

1559
01:44:39.359 --> 01:44:41.199
Before we move on, like,
how how did you guys feel about

1560
01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:44.560
the Game Awards, So that's been
a big ongoing conversation this whole weekend.

1561
01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:47.640
I finished it and I was like, yeah, this is what these shows

1562
01:44:47.680 --> 01:44:51.479
are, and even the stuff that's
worth criticizing, it's like that's almost like

1563
01:44:51.560 --> 01:44:55.279
kind of fun because it's like stuff
we can all complain about, but people

1564
01:44:55.319 --> 01:44:59.279
are right to point out. It
feels a little embarrassing how much attention games

1565
01:44:59.319 --> 01:45:03.399
got compare to several Hollywood stars who've
got minutes to speak. But that's like,

1566
01:45:03.920 --> 01:45:08.880
again, all those things are valid, and criticizing the show for all

1567
01:45:08.960 --> 01:45:12.319
the things that we have been criticizing
it for the last couple of years,

1568
01:45:12.560 --> 01:45:14.840
like that's what I don't understand.
I feel like this year more than ever,

1569
01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:17.159
and obviously it's in the wake of
like horrific amounts of layoffs in the

1570
01:45:17.199 --> 01:45:20.399
industry and in a very good year
for games, where I think people are

1571
01:45:20.439 --> 01:45:24.359
like totally, you don't need to
rely on Hollywood the comedy good games right

1572
01:45:24.399 --> 01:45:28.760
to talk about. So you have
that paradox dichotomy of like the inverse of

1573
01:45:28.880 --> 01:45:34.159
like amazing success, which you know
as a byproduct having layoffs. What is

1574
01:45:34.279 --> 01:45:40.800
happening with this system where like you
have an incredible successfully profitable year and then

1575
01:45:40.920 --> 01:45:45.159
you are laying off people at a
abhorrent rate. I just don't understand.

1576
01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:49.239
I can't quite tell what's wrong here. Perhaps I need to go back to

1577
01:45:49.880 --> 01:45:55.680
economic class. But what I don't
understand are the people who just sort of

1578
01:45:55.800 --> 01:45:59.119
think like this is the year where
all this happened in terms of like the

1579
01:45:59.279 --> 01:46:02.600
show, right, Like the show
has always been this, We've always been

1580
01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:06.399
upset by it. Last year,
I remember coming back from the Game Awards

1581
01:46:06.640 --> 01:46:12.520
being like, I can't believe how
much the awards themselves were just like packed

1582
01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:16.119
into a nice little interstitial, a
little interlude. Right. He did.

1583
01:46:16.199 --> 01:46:20.960
He cranked him out like three or
four award categories at a time. That's

1584
01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:26.359
what it is. It's a commercial. Uh It's always been a commercial.

1585
01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:32.920
It's been a more let's call it
refined commercial and not the circus, right,

1586
01:46:33.119 --> 01:46:35.880
But I'm just saying, like it's
not the circus that it was when

1587
01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:40.640
it was on Spike, right,
Like it's not that, but it's still

1588
01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:45.840
it's still very much a uh,
a commercial. It's a marketing arm.

1589
01:46:45.960 --> 01:46:50.239
It is arguably the year's largest marketing
arm. And I feel like, you

1590
01:46:50.319 --> 01:46:55.479
know, there is also this desire
that I think we kind of all just

1591
01:46:55.680 --> 01:46:59.920
gloss over and don't really speak about. But like that shows very very horn

1592
01:47:00.199 --> 01:47:03.479
to be buddied up with Hollywood.
Yeah, it's not Anthony Maggie's not a

1593
01:47:03.479 --> 01:47:06.960
commercial. I suppose maybe for the
Twisted and a little TV show, but

1594
01:47:08.039 --> 01:47:11.319
he wasn't like paid to go promote
that. That's that's long over. So

1595
01:47:11.399 --> 01:47:15.199
it's like, that's just Jeff Keey
being kind of a starfucker. Well,

1596
01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:17.319
that's what I'm thing like in it's
in its a never ending desire to be

1597
01:47:17.479 --> 01:47:24.880
horny, and in Hollywood and inside
Hollywood, certain things get sacrificed in the

1598
01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:27.760
name of that and in the and
in the wake of that effort. So

1599
01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:30.239
like, uh, yeah, I
don't know what to tell you. I

1600
01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:32.960
know you're right Backlar, but like
in the past, I've definitely, you

1601
01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:34.800
know, have noticed it, but
I was always like, yeah, no,

1602
01:47:35.279 --> 01:47:39.760
I get it. But whatever it
felt, maybe this is just actually

1603
01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:44.159
feelings that maybe the stats will back
it up. It felt especially egregious this

1604
01:47:44.319 --> 01:47:48.439
year. It was just insane how
we were blasting off major categories like best

1605
01:47:48.560 --> 01:47:56.239
RPG, best score and having Kajima
and they look, ay, Kojima,

1606
01:47:56.600 --> 01:48:00.039
he's great, He's imported industry.
Boy, has he gotten enough flowers?

1607
01:48:00.319 --> 01:48:03.960
Right? Yeah? Yeah, let's
let's talk about some other developers for a

1608
01:48:04.079 --> 01:48:08.119
change or just a bit. I
think I think you had the perfect I

1609
01:48:08.159 --> 01:48:12.239
think the reason this year it's been
more polarizing that than years past, even

1610
01:48:12.279 --> 01:48:16.079
though I think worth its weight,
right, it's basically pound for pound,

1611
01:48:16.119 --> 01:48:19.560
the same kind of show. I
think you. I think what we've talked

1612
01:48:19.560 --> 01:48:24.079
about before this created the perfect storm
where you do where you do have,

1613
01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:28.079
like the layoffs you do have,
like even the things like the Chris Josheph

1614
01:48:28.079 --> 01:48:30.199
where it's like people not being able
to like to wrap it up. But

1615
01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:33.720
I think it was like overreacted from
Chris just going forty over last year thirty

1616
01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:38.880
seconds seconds totally over corrected U in
a way that like, oh my god,

1617
01:48:38.960 --> 01:48:42.399
you're on the fucking internet, Like, uh would the lease on the

1618
01:48:42.479 --> 01:48:45.960
Peacock Theater? Like at midnight we
all turn into pumpkins, Like what's going

1619
01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:48.399
to happen if you go a little
longer? Believe me? And this is

1620
01:48:48.479 --> 01:48:53.119
someone who does not want to spend
another minute of their lives in that god

1621
01:48:53.159 --> 01:48:56.159
forsaken theater not being able to go
again. Why did you go two years

1622
01:48:56.159 --> 01:49:00.760
in a row back, like I
had thtimes listen and I go because I

1623
01:49:00.920 --> 01:49:06.319
think it's good to represent giant Bomb
at the awards and elbows and and do

1624
01:49:06.479 --> 01:49:10.680
the thing and say hi to people, and and you know, I think

1625
01:49:10.720 --> 01:49:14.880
there's other things to talk about too, Like there's there's a weirdness with the

1626
01:49:15.039 --> 01:49:19.319
after show or like what happens in
LA Live after that, because you do

1627
01:49:19.479 --> 01:49:23.560
get this like mix of people who
were at the awards and then a mix

1628
01:49:23.600 --> 01:49:27.600
of people who are just going to
kind of almost like pre and post tailgate.

1629
01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:34.439
That's me and yeah, and that's
it. Just there's there's a lot

1630
01:49:34.520 --> 01:49:39.840
of interesting things that are going on
there that are that are sort of perfect.

1631
01:49:39.960 --> 01:49:44.199
Line was more packed than I've ever
seen it before, and the show

1632
01:49:44.359 --> 01:49:48.119
was more crowded than it was last
year. But yeah, you know,

1633
01:49:48.359 --> 01:49:54.079
I don't know my my I made
this point on Twitter, is that we

1634
01:49:54.399 --> 01:49:57.960
at a certain point do you have
to expect or stopped expecting that Jeff Keeley

1635
01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:00.039
can change his nature. We are
getting the show show that Jeff Keey makes,

1636
01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:03.199
because this is the show that Jeff
Keeley makes, and we could keep

1637
01:50:03.239 --> 01:50:06.399
lobbing criticisms and I think we can
maybe move him a little bit left and

1638
01:50:06.520 --> 01:50:10.720
right in terms of okay, i'll
give you more than thirty seconds to accept

1639
01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:14.359
an award. But in terms of
like Mike O'Leary said that it was eighteen

1640
01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:17.840
percent awards and the rest was commercials, we maybe get that up to twenty

1641
01:50:18.039 --> 01:50:21.680
twenty two percent awards. It's not
going to be fifty to fifty ever,

1642
01:50:23.199 --> 01:50:25.800
from the Jeff Keey Show, and
turns out there's a lot of other award

1643
01:50:25.840 --> 01:50:28.800
shows, like That's Saturday in LA, the Real Game of Awards got announced

1644
01:50:28.960 --> 01:50:32.640
a Game of the Awards a giant
bomb exactly, so we can just be

1645
01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:35.920
like put Kelley in his box over
there and be like, let's maybe reduce

1646
01:50:36.039 --> 01:50:41.680
our estimation of what these awards mean
and instead focus over on like the DICE

1647
01:50:41.720 --> 01:50:45.600
Awards, where that's voted on by
the industry, by the Academy of Interactive

1648
01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:48.439
Arts and Sciences, and that's maybe
that's more valuable and we could pay more

1649
01:50:48.439 --> 01:50:51.199
attention to that. And they got
great hosts over there, except for Greg

1650
01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:56.880
Miller. So yeah, they're mostly
right, But I think I think Khey

1651
01:50:56.920 --> 01:51:00.359
could be shamed. Yeah, I
think, like I said, be shamed

1652
01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:02.359
about five percent, I think yeah. But I also think there is.

1653
01:51:02.600 --> 01:51:06.319
And again I'm this is not an
endorsement of anything. It's just the reality

1654
01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:11.680
of the situation. It's the game
Wars is a product in a way that

1655
01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:15.439
the Oscars is not necessarily a product. And I spring up the Oscars because

1656
01:51:15.479 --> 01:51:19.640
I do feel like that is the
north star of maybe the original spirit of

1657
01:51:19.760 --> 01:51:26.680
what this award show was sort of
like meant to be. If you presented

1658
01:51:26.760 --> 01:51:29.600
this case to all right, how
are we going to fucking pay for it?

1659
01:51:29.680 --> 01:51:31.119
And how do I like pay all
the people? And that's what it

1660
01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:35.199
is. So and I feel like
real money, it's really real money.

1661
01:51:35.279 --> 01:51:40.000
It's like big like for some slots
in there. We're talking three hundred and

1662
01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:43.479
fifty four hundred thousand dollars for like
a couple of seconds on the show.

1663
01:51:44.199 --> 01:51:47.079
That's big time money. So yeah, like it's at a certain point it's

1664
01:51:47.119 --> 01:51:51.159
going to be hard to change that
because like, yeah, some people got

1665
01:51:51.199 --> 01:51:54.920
mad at me on the internet.
On the other side, I bought a

1666
01:51:55.000 --> 01:51:59.039
Ferrari like it's yeah, it's here's
what it is too, And I think

1667
01:51:59.119 --> 01:52:01.840
this is something and maybe someone's written
this and maybe I am coming up with

1668
01:52:01.920 --> 01:52:08.640
this on the fly here, but
I do think that we that there's two

1669
01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:13.399
people. There's two groups here.
There's us in the media who don't necessarily

1670
01:52:13.600 --> 01:52:18.680
care as much about the advertisements.
But I think everybody else watches that show,

1671
01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:24.279
especially for the the the trailers,
right, and so that's what it

1672
01:52:24.439 --> 01:52:28.000
is. We're in the minority.
Means that I still get excited for the

1673
01:52:28.039 --> 01:52:31.640
trailers like popping off for I thought, you know, Jurassic Park and all

1674
01:52:31.640 --> 01:52:34.439
that stuff shut and usually like sometimes
it does get to be reported. I'm

1675
01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:38.399
like, I don't really care that
much about the awards whatever. But again

1676
01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:42.680
this year even I was embarrassed.
Yeah, So but that's what it is,

1677
01:52:42.880 --> 01:52:45.560
right, It's the BAFTAs, it's
the other things that like, that's

1678
01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:50.600
what we again as as media people
who cover this stuff. That's the real

1679
01:52:50.680 --> 01:52:55.520
attention makers, right, that that
should be getting you know, their their

1680
01:52:55.600 --> 01:52:59.319
flowers as you put it. But
like the Game Award Show is a trailer

1681
01:52:59.359 --> 01:53:02.760
show, the commercial show. When
do you think it happens where he will

1682
01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:06.920
eventually stop calling it the Game Awards? Oh? Never, It's it's because

1683
01:53:06.960 --> 01:53:11.159
the brand. Yeah, I think
that brand's been solidified now, especially with

1684
01:53:11.319 --> 01:53:14.119
next year going to be like the
ten year anniversary, Like that's going to

1685
01:53:14.159 --> 01:53:17.720
be a giant there, right,
I mean, he got people to call

1686
01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:21.199
it the Oscars of gaming and it
it just is nothing close to that.

1687
01:53:21.520 --> 01:53:24.279
But he got people to do that. He's not going to give up that

1688
01:53:24.399 --> 01:53:29.279
momentum, no way, and and
when, and it has been refined and

1689
01:53:29.439 --> 01:53:32.159
tailored, and now it's become like
a fashion thing, like people get dressed

1690
01:53:32.199 --> 01:53:36.039
to the nines like it is.
It is that it is LARPing as the

1691
01:53:36.159 --> 01:53:42.439
Oscars, right, and it's again
golden globes maybe even sure, I want

1692
01:53:42.479 --> 01:53:46.399
them to emulate the Oscars properly then, right if someone is going to accept

1693
01:53:46.439 --> 01:53:50.079
an award again, give that's again, that's not what the product is.

1694
01:53:50.199 --> 01:53:57.680
The product is not that it's a
different product the Oscars anymore, just for

1695
01:53:57.800 --> 01:54:00.439
the industry. I think commercials during
it though, no there's commercials. There's

1696
01:54:00.439 --> 01:54:05.319
no commercials like for cars, show
new trailers for movies there like paid during

1697
01:54:05.399 --> 01:54:10.039
the show itself. Like yeah,
I just think like they're two very different

1698
01:54:10.079 --> 01:54:14.560
things kind of attempting to be the
same thing. It feels like the VMA's

1699
01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:19.000
right, the MTV Video Music Awards. Yes, it's more aligned to the

1700
01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:21.920
VMAs than the askers. You know
what really got me for some reason was

1701
01:54:21.960 --> 01:54:26.880
having like two of the musical performances
be for games coming out next year,

1702
01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:30.000
Like well, okay, so now
where those are for sale? Alsoleeve And

1703
01:54:30.119 --> 01:54:33.520
it's getting kind of crazy. I'm
sure everyone gets a menu, right,

1704
01:54:33.640 --> 01:54:36.039
you get a menu of what to
buy a rate card, and it's like,

1705
01:54:36.399 --> 01:54:39.640
you want to spend a fuck ton
of money. I'll get you in

1706
01:54:39.920 --> 01:54:44.319
the first trailer when we go live
on the lines of you know, you

1707
01:54:44.359 --> 01:54:46.680
don't pay anything, like you're still
that, like yes, absolutely, you

1708
01:54:46.760 --> 01:54:50.920
know. So it scales up and
down for me. I will be happy

1709
01:54:51.479 --> 01:54:57.600
if there's just like five fewer actors
and celebrities and we just get like ten

1710
01:54:57.720 --> 01:54:59.760
shaped on the page a little bit. You don't need any of them.

1711
01:55:00.560 --> 01:55:01.600
I'm not gonna listen. I'm like, keep it in mind, Like up

1712
01:55:01.640 --> 01:55:04.039
again, Jeff Keey. We can't
change his nature. He loves this stuff.

1713
01:55:04.079 --> 01:55:06.840
Clearly, he's not going to abandon
it completely. If you find a

1714
01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:11.159
couple to bring on stage because they
are related to a game, whatever,

1715
01:55:11.239 --> 01:55:15.000
I guess Matthew McConaughey is in that
game that he showed I was really close

1716
01:55:15.079 --> 01:55:18.920
to math Matthew McConaughey, You guys, I was like, and it did

1717
01:55:19.039 --> 01:55:24.159
nothing for many, it did nothing
for me. But but God, just

1718
01:55:24.239 --> 01:55:28.199
put actual game developers on the stage, please please, you can treat them

1719
01:55:28.279 --> 01:55:31.079
like rock stars. We were getting
drinks and then that's the thing I don't.

1720
01:55:31.239 --> 01:55:38.359
I don't think mainstream American gaming culture
treats game developers the rockstar status.

1721
01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:40.199
No, no, no, no, no, I know they don't.

1722
01:55:40.239 --> 01:55:44.079
But they didn't get anything out of
Anthony Mackie shouting noises at them even no

1723
01:55:44.239 --> 01:55:46.079
of course. Oh I'm just saying, like that's the reality of it,

1724
01:55:46.199 --> 01:55:50.239
right, Like we don't. We
don't treat them in that regard the way

1725
01:55:50.359 --> 01:55:53.479
that their cultures do. I know
what you mean, but like I think

1726
01:55:53.520 --> 01:55:56.720
the stars of this show are the
game trailers and so you don't need the

1727
01:55:56.840 --> 01:56:00.239
actors at all. Yeah, totally
with you, Like God, I was

1728
01:56:00.680 --> 01:56:04.680
losing my mind, and not in
a cool, fun way, just having

1729
01:56:04.760 --> 01:56:10.800
Semulu saying like cool if my ankle's
broke in a pickup game of basketball,

1730
01:56:10.840 --> 01:56:15.319
Like shut the fuck up, yeah
him. But it misses the mark in

1731
01:56:15.399 --> 01:56:17.680
such a big way, right,
Like it like when you really think about

1732
01:56:17.720 --> 01:56:24.279
it, like what other platform has
the ability to turn these developers into like

1733
01:56:24.439 --> 01:56:28.039
the celebrity coming less the budget will
do it. Yeah. I mean,

1734
01:56:28.119 --> 01:56:30.880
look like there's certain people like a
Sam Lake who like kind of transcends that.

1735
01:56:31.199 --> 01:56:34.720
Right, Joseph Ferris became like a
star, and then they like bring

1736
01:56:34.840 --> 01:56:38.439
Joseph Ferriss back for all the game
Awards. It's like he's done it before.

1737
01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:43.399
He's turned some of these people into
relative stars at you know, household

1738
01:56:43.479 --> 01:56:46.600
names within the industry. I just
I wish I don't know, I say,

1739
01:56:46.600 --> 01:56:49.239
I wish you would like take the
responsibility. Seriously, I don't.

1740
01:56:49.319 --> 01:56:53.319
He's not going to. I gotta
stop like imagining he's going to, because

1741
01:56:53.319 --> 01:56:56.680
I can't fantasy book these shows anymore. It gets kind of frustrated. And

1742
01:56:56.760 --> 01:56:59.840
then you see fucking Seamulu up there
talking like an idiot. You know.

1743
01:57:00.399 --> 01:57:03.479
Look, at the same time,
it gave us an opportunity to like do

1744
01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:08.520
a thing down there, and that
was great to have like people congregating,

1745
01:57:08.600 --> 01:57:11.960
especially without an E three. Right, it's a video game industry prom I

1746
01:57:12.039 --> 01:57:15.800
think it's a pretty it works out
pretty well. Yeah, Like it's short

1747
01:57:15.840 --> 01:57:19.319
and sweet. It's one day,
you know, like it doesn't Yeah,

1748
01:57:19.359 --> 01:57:21.720
I mean we were there for a
week. You were there for a week.

1749
01:57:21.800 --> 01:57:26.439
Like a psycho. But you know, I think in the in the

1750
01:57:26.520 --> 01:57:30.159
spirit of that and just being able
to have a social gathering and also a

1751
01:57:30.239 --> 01:57:34.039
way to catch up and and and
you know, knock out a couple other

1752
01:57:34.119 --> 01:57:39.720
things. Get bit by some dogs. Like it's definitely the place to be.

1753
01:57:40.439 --> 01:57:42.439
You're right about the selebtih of people
like O. Yeah, clear,

1754
01:57:42.479 --> 01:57:45.880
Bey's eagle views in his mind.
Okay, then just put a fucking game

1755
01:57:45.920 --> 01:57:53.159
developer next to the celebrity. Sure, just just shout at people in the

1756
01:57:53.199 --> 01:57:59.319
audience, except put the human back
in the cater a little bit, please,

1757
01:57:59.399 --> 01:58:00.640
But like, yeah, let Tim
Shaffer come out and like make some

1758
01:58:00.760 --> 01:58:04.079
jokes with some people, and then
someone new and then someone is Sadwich.

1759
01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:09.600
They work together, they know each
other. That's fine. I love that.

1760
01:58:10.039 --> 01:58:13.720
Pair everyone with the person. Do
that pair them back. I know

1761
01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:17.000
you say that. I don't think
there's a rock starification. Maybe possible with

1762
01:58:17.159 --> 01:58:20.840
like the thing, It's not possible. I'm just saying, like I find

1763
01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:27.079
that American culture, like game culture, does not do they they don't think

1764
01:58:27.159 --> 01:58:30.399
of it in that way. I'm
saying I believe that they should. I

1765
01:58:30.560 --> 01:58:34.399
believe they should, ye should put
these people in that position. But our

1766
01:58:34.520 --> 01:58:41.039
culture seems to not be interested in
me. I feel like it could slowly

1767
01:58:41.119 --> 01:58:44.479
move there, because when we're having
drinks with like the Remedy folks like that

1768
01:58:44.640 --> 01:58:47.399
Waiter walked up to Kyle Rowley and
was like, oh, yeah, like,

1769
01:58:48.000 --> 01:58:51.840
I hope you guys win this weekend. I absolutely love your game and

1770
01:58:51.920 --> 01:58:56.000
that was fucking wild, you know, and like, I feel like that

1771
01:58:56.840 --> 01:59:00.079
if it can get that way.
But you're right about the general audience.

1772
01:59:00.199 --> 01:59:05.439
The tragedy is you're right, the
developers are more interesting than celebrities. Yeah,

1773
01:59:05.600 --> 01:59:09.880
are more interesting people. We hung
out with them all week and they're

1774
01:59:09.960 --> 01:59:12.680
fucking fun as hell to hang out
with and to talk to. And we

1775
01:59:13.119 --> 01:59:17.439
show that how do I become a
Blazer person? Like Sam Blake? How

1776
01:59:17.479 --> 01:59:23.920
does he travel with all those Blazers? He must have a separate I'm sure

1777
01:59:23.920 --> 01:59:27.479
he's got like a steamer trunk that
he just ships from Finmone want to Blazer

1778
01:59:27.560 --> 01:59:31.479
guy, help a brother out?
All right, last couple of stories here,

1779
01:59:31.560 --> 01:59:36.079
Bald just k three players advice to
manually update their Xbox to combat disappearing

1780
01:59:36.159 --> 01:59:41.399
saves. Uh, it's an Xbox
update, Like if you need to update

1781
01:59:41.439 --> 01:59:44.600
the system itself. Uh. And
then and to make sure your game is

1782
01:59:44.640 --> 01:59:47.720
up to date, yes, right
exactly, to give you do not want

1783
01:59:47.720 --> 01:59:53.279
to have saves disappear from You're very
frustrated. There's one more thing I thought

1784
01:59:53.319 --> 01:59:58.720
of that I just want to say, because I'll forget it and do sketches

1785
01:59:59.000 --> 02:00:02.279
with developers, like do the fun
videos of people, like make fun things,

1786
02:00:02.800 --> 02:00:05.800
you know, like do that have
some fun, make sure they're actually

1787
02:00:05.880 --> 02:00:09.520
funny. Yeah, you know,
Like I feel like the closest thing we

1788
02:00:09.600 --> 02:00:15.640
got to that was like the Herald
of Darkness performances at the highlight of the

1789
02:00:15.680 --> 02:00:17.600
show. Absolutely the best part of
the show, hands down. Nothing came

1790
02:00:17.680 --> 02:00:20.760
close to that. But like,
do sketches, do do fun things like

1791
02:00:20.920 --> 02:00:27.359
make these people, give them the
platform and bring celebrities into that where game

1792
02:00:27.359 --> 02:00:31.640
devopers are also mingling. That works
too. Like I saw Walton Goggins,

1793
02:00:31.960 --> 02:00:38.479
Okay, Walton Goggins, baby Billy, Baby Billy, Okay, he was

1794
02:00:38.560 --> 02:00:41.399
there, and I was very excited
to see Walton Goggins because he's one of

1795
02:00:41.479 --> 02:00:43.760
my favorite celebrities. But at the
end of the day, I'm like,

1796
02:00:43.760 --> 02:00:46.079
all right, cool, whatever.
Neil Druckman was on stage, and like

1797
02:00:46.199 --> 02:00:49.239
I saw the two of them now
Neil Truckman. I don't know. It's

1798
02:00:49.279 --> 02:00:57.720
probably transcended the developer, right,
and he's very big time of course.

1799
02:00:57.800 --> 02:01:00.720
But like I saw them embrace and
then when they were walking off, like

1800
02:01:00.760 --> 02:01:02.239
they had their arms around each other
and they were talking and you could maybe

1801
02:01:02.319 --> 02:01:04.840
see like, well, it's like
you gotta put me last of Us season

1802
02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:10.840
two man like something like that.
But there is the capacity for this thing

1803
02:01:10.960 --> 02:01:14.439
to happen. Uh, we just
have to get like the right people who

1804
02:01:14.520 --> 02:01:16.920
want to see you know, like, look, I'm sure this is not

1805
02:01:17.199 --> 02:01:21.600
a foreign concept to someone like Jeff
Keeley, but you have to we have

1806
02:01:21.800 --> 02:01:25.640
to do that. It's just not
gonna happen by itself. It had the

1807
02:01:26.119 --> 02:01:30.760
decision needs to be made to want
to see that happen. I make sketches.

1808
02:01:30.520 --> 02:01:33.600
I'm sorry, my brain is poisoned
right now. It feels like Jeff

1809
02:01:33.680 --> 02:01:38.880
Keeley is just Tony Kahn right now. I need him to expand it out.

1810
02:01:39.479 --> 02:01:42.920
You just need to stretch out that
action figures together. And they're all

1811
02:01:43.439 --> 02:01:48.760
actors for some reason. And also
Kadrima All right, there's a rumor that

1812
02:01:48.800 --> 02:01:53.319
the PS five pro specs are leaking. They do seem like they should leak

1813
02:01:53.399 --> 02:01:58.119
soon because reportedly def kits are going
out and the deaf kits will probably have

1814
02:01:58.319 --> 02:02:01.079
pretty close to the final specs,
but it might be a range of possibilities.

1815
02:02:02.439 --> 02:02:08.600
The refined specs that our league can
include a four nanometer AMD z in

1816
02:02:08.720 --> 02:02:16.239
two CPU that is capable of four
point four gigahertz run clock there, but

1817
02:02:16.319 --> 02:02:19.359
it's variable, it'll go up and
down. The big thing there at four

1818
02:02:19.399 --> 02:02:24.680
nanimeter. The original Zen two chip
inside of the PS five was I think

1819
02:02:24.760 --> 02:02:29.119
seven nanimeter. They might wow exactly
They might have got it down to six

1820
02:02:29.479 --> 02:02:31.600
with the revision, but drop it
down to four and animeter means this thing

1821
02:02:31.720 --> 02:02:35.880
is going to be very cool,
very efficient. They probably might be able

1822
02:02:35.880 --> 02:02:40.560
to do a PS five pro that
is even like way slimmer than the current

1823
02:02:40.680 --> 02:02:45.680
slim model, Like that would be
extremely more efficient, so that's pretty cool.

1824
02:02:45.199 --> 02:02:49.960
Then the GPU will be a full
on our DNA three custom GPU with

1825
02:02:50.560 --> 02:02:55.800
up to twenty nine terraflops. Potentially
there's a range of fourteen to twenty nine

1826
02:02:55.880 --> 02:03:00.720
teraflops here. I think the PS
five was somewhere like around ten eleven twelve,

1827
02:03:00.520 --> 02:03:02.960
so it's like it could be a
small upgrade or it could be you

1828
02:03:03.000 --> 02:03:06.239
know, twice as powerful, and
it's also gonna have like twice the power

1829
02:03:06.279 --> 02:03:11.399
for ray tracing. That's what they're
saying. This is, hey cool.

1830
02:03:11.560 --> 02:03:14.720
I don't really still feel the need
for a PS five Pro, but it

1831
02:03:14.760 --> 02:03:16.159
seems like they're going to do one, So here we are. This is

1832
02:03:16.439 --> 02:03:24.680
it's crazy because I definitely remember tangibly
during PS four Pro time where we were

1833
02:03:24.760 --> 02:03:28.279
like, oh, this is the
perfect time. This console feels like it

1834
02:03:28.359 --> 02:03:30.560
could use a shot in the arm, right this platform. I don't feel

1835
02:03:30.600 --> 02:03:34.359
that now, Like I haven't seen
Alan Wake on PS five. I know,

1836
02:03:35.319 --> 02:03:40.600
Jan you were saying, it's like
phenomenal to me. To me,

1837
02:03:40.720 --> 02:03:45.399
that's like the Fidelity Barometer game right
now. Yeah, it just seems again

1838
02:03:45.640 --> 02:03:50.520
this is this is probably at least
a year away, right, Like is

1839
02:03:50.560 --> 02:03:56.359
that a fair and reasonable estimation?
Next holiday? By the earliest, right

1840
02:03:56.680 --> 02:04:00.520
right? Yeah, by the earliest, you know, yeah, probably holiday

1841
02:04:00.560 --> 02:04:01.680
though. Yeah, I just think, like, you know, from this

1842
02:04:01.800 --> 02:04:04.960
position in December of twenty three,
like, uh no, I don't it

1843
02:04:05.039 --> 02:04:08.960
doesn't feel like a tangible need for
this, but you know, we'll get

1844
02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:14.279
we'll get a game called GTA six, And if Sony could say, hey,

1845
02:04:14.720 --> 02:04:16.840
we're the only console you can run
GK six to sixty frames per second.

1846
02:04:17.479 --> 02:04:20.239
Maybe that alone makes it worth it
to them. Did you see that

1847
02:04:20.520 --> 02:04:26.600
Digital Foundry breakdown of the trailer when
they were like counting pixels? It was

1848
02:04:26.640 --> 02:04:30.880
pretty well, it's pretty nuts.
And yes, I think they I think

1849
02:04:30.000 --> 02:04:33.560
they think the game is going to
be targeted at thirty but yeah, on

1850
02:04:33.640 --> 02:04:36.800
console it usually is, yeah for
them, but but yeah, that would

1851
02:04:36.800 --> 02:04:41.720
be wild. Certainly if you could
delivered, you could land this plane saying

1852
02:04:41.920 --> 02:04:45.640
some bold thing like that, that's
probably what they're thinking. But it's like

1853
02:04:45.720 --> 02:04:50.039
beyond that, there's not very many
games where you know, they have enough

1854
02:04:50.159 --> 02:04:54.720
money to even do fidelity like that. I'm sure developers would like to have

1855
02:04:54.760 --> 02:04:57.039
a little bit more scope, but
you know, they're still going to be

1856
02:04:57.079 --> 02:04:59.800
aiming stuff all the way up and
down from like a switch to low end

1857
02:04:59.800 --> 02:05:04.199
p so they're gonna disappointed. I've
been disappointed enough in performance in places five

1858
02:05:04.239 --> 02:05:09.279
games. Maybe that's optimization, but
like you know, Jedi Survivor was pretty

1859
02:05:09.359 --> 02:05:12.079
rough for a while. If I
was sixteen, even, I was just

1860
02:05:12.159 --> 02:05:15.439
gonna as steady as sixty fps as
I would have liked on performance mode.

1861
02:05:15.960 --> 02:05:17.439
Yeah, you're reminded me that's that's
okay. I don't know if this is

1862
02:05:17.520 --> 02:05:24.319
a controversial take, but like I
don't want to have to choose between performance

1863
02:05:24.399 --> 02:05:28.000
and Quality's we're gonna be over that. I don't know that. I hate

1864
02:05:28.039 --> 02:05:31.079
that so much. I was an
ignorant, stupid little baby going this generation

1865
02:05:31.239 --> 02:05:33.319
like, yeah, the console is
gonna be so powerful, we don't need

1866
02:05:33.359 --> 02:05:38.920
to make that choice anymore. Stupid. I mean to keep doing that because

1867
02:05:39.560 --> 02:05:44.720
even with this system here, getting
a solid like sixty four K is gonna

1868
02:05:44.760 --> 02:05:46.680
be kind of rough in most things. Mostly they're not gonna run native four

1869
02:05:46.760 --> 02:05:49.359
K, and they're still gonna want
to give you that option for native four

1870
02:05:49.439 --> 02:05:55.359
K. Yeah, yeah, okay. I mean look, so basically that

1871
02:05:55.439 --> 02:05:58.680
comes down to like ten ADP sixty
and four K thirty. Is that like

1872
02:05:58.800 --> 02:06:02.319
the difference there is, you know
we're choosing. Yeah, that's what it

1873
02:06:02.439 --> 02:06:05.119
is right now. But for now, this is will probably get like four

1874
02:06:05.279 --> 02:06:10.520
K forty, and the lower foot
fidelity games might do like four K sixty

1875
02:06:11.199 --> 02:06:14.479
or like four K one twenty.
If you're like a like an esports kind

1876
02:06:14.520 --> 02:06:17.800
of game. Yeah, I just
you know, I think choosing between that

1877
02:06:18.000 --> 02:06:23.880
for me is not a good feeling. I understand why I compromised somebody in

1878
02:06:23.960 --> 02:06:26.960
that. Yeah. It is like
before you start the game, it's like,

1879
02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:30.159
what which part do you want to
be bad? Yeah, Like you

1880
02:06:30.239 --> 02:06:32.079
know, when you're firing up God
of War, you're like, well,

1881
02:06:32.279 --> 02:06:36.399
this will look real fucking dope at
sixty Uh. What I also want to

1882
02:06:36.399 --> 02:06:40.640
see, you know, I want
to see cradles as freckles as well.

1883
02:06:40.880 --> 02:06:43.880
So one less story here. This
is something that was going on there.

1884
02:06:44.000 --> 02:06:46.479
That's I think Steven Totila, who
is very kind at the Game Awards,

1885
02:06:46.600 --> 02:06:51.479
Hi Steven. Yeah, he did
an interview with the gaming guy over at

1886
02:06:51.479 --> 02:06:55.760
Disney, not John Drake, someone
who's charge of Star Wars and basic guess

1887
02:06:55.840 --> 02:06:58.000
about Star Wars nets the Old Republic, and he says there's still a lot

1888
02:06:58.039 --> 02:07:00.479
of demand for it, but you
can't talk about to be on that.

1889
02:07:00.840 --> 02:07:03.880
And I want to want to reiterate
because I got, I got was it's

1890
02:07:03.920 --> 02:07:09.520
got brought your catch and it's like, boy, did I try to clarify

1891
02:07:09.600 --> 02:07:12.640
this in a number of times I
know, and no one fucking listed.

1892
02:07:12.640 --> 02:07:15.439
They only listen to the first thing. There was no beyond that. Again,

1893
02:07:16.479 --> 02:07:19.279
someone's probably working on it at Saber
in fact, I'm gonna say they

1894
02:07:19.279 --> 02:07:23.760
definitely are. Like I had Jason's
Shryer story, Yeah, that's confirmed.

1895
02:07:23.800 --> 02:07:27.199
There's definitely people working on at Saber. But the thing that was announced as

1896
02:07:27.279 --> 02:07:31.479
a Sony published thing, that game
that got announced is no longer the thing.

1897
02:07:31.880 --> 02:07:34.439
Saber is working on something that will
have to get a new partner,

1898
02:07:34.800 --> 02:07:40.399
and so that original game is just
dead basically, and Saber will have to

1899
02:07:41.000 --> 02:07:45.439
uh have it re emerge somewhere else
unless Sony comes back and says, yeah,

1900
02:07:45.479 --> 02:07:46.319
we want it now, but right
now, Sony wants nothing to do

1901
02:07:46.439 --> 02:07:51.239
with it. So yeah, if
the if your question continues to be will

1902
02:07:51.319 --> 02:07:55.319
that game ever see the light of
the light of day? The chances are

1903
02:07:55.439 --> 02:07:58.800
lower than ever. But that doesn't
mean it's completely dead, and it doesn't

1904
02:07:58.840 --> 02:08:01.279
mean no one's working on it.
Soone sabers working. So there you go.

1905
02:08:01.560 --> 02:08:05.800
It's exactly what we said that like
that Monday and Tuesday after the story

1906
02:08:05.840 --> 02:08:07.920
broke and everyone was asking me about
it. But hey, I'll reiterating.

1907
02:08:07.960 --> 02:08:11.439
I think, especially with bolters Gate
three being this hit, just make a

1908
02:08:11.560 --> 02:08:15.960
new code tour now cool, Like
literally, we had two old boater Gates

1909
02:08:16.039 --> 02:08:18.039
and then we made a new one
like way later and there was a big

1910
02:08:18.079 --> 02:08:22.680
reboot and everyone got very excited.
That seems like the formula to me that

1911
02:08:22.760 --> 02:08:28.279
we should be pursuing here to do
a force shove. They do a force

1912
02:08:28.359 --> 02:08:31.680
shove, Force shove of the year, foreshove of the year. Oh okay,

1913
02:08:31.840 --> 02:08:35.720
best force shoving. Uh like it. I'm done with the news.

1914
02:08:35.840 --> 02:08:39.439
Back to you, Jan, I
have a million dollar idea, that million

1915
02:08:39.479 --> 02:08:45.159
dollar keep it yourself tell us in
the in the commercial and you're good.

1916
02:08:45.239 --> 02:08:48.079
Oh that's right, okay, okay, Hey, hey, you know how

1917
02:08:48.119 --> 02:08:52.560
sometimes they'll have post interviews after someone
wins an award at an Auscars or Golden

1918
02:08:52.600 --> 02:08:56.520
Globes. Let us just give it
to us, Just give it to us,

1919
02:08:56.640 --> 02:09:00.319
and then we'll have that touch segment. Yeah, we'll bring it couch.

1920
02:09:00.880 --> 02:09:03.800
We do, we do. We
could do a Pope pre show.

1921
02:09:03.920 --> 02:09:07.880
We could do a red carpet show
where we talk about everyonehere Dan is interviewing

1922
02:09:07.960 --> 02:09:11.359
everyone's passion, right, and we
get a listener conte on on there to

1923
02:09:11.479 --> 02:09:15.680
like just talk magic about what everyone's
wearing. Oh my god, if she

1924
02:09:15.800 --> 02:09:18.720
wasn't judging me too harshly, because
I was at some Xbox mixer and I

1925
02:09:18.840 --> 02:09:22.560
just popped in before going to the
Phantom offices, and everyone else there was

1926
02:09:22.760 --> 02:09:26.039
going to the game boards. Everyone
dressed incredibly nicely, and I had some

1927
02:09:26.199 --> 02:09:31.560
graphic tea jeans and my Mickey Mouse
backpack that had my laptop in it.

1928
02:09:31.960 --> 02:09:35.239
Yeah. I couldn't give how many
people handed them their empty drinks. It

1929
02:09:35.359 --> 02:09:39.920
was awesome. Now I'm kidding.
Listen, you looked great, Mike.

1930
02:09:41.239 --> 02:09:43.960
Don't you rock a blazer really well? Mike? When I didn't have the

1931
02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:48.079
Blazer then that's why I'm saying in
general, yeah, up, real good.

1932
02:09:48.279 --> 02:09:52.399
You need to be a Blazer person
for sure. I gotta get more.

1933
02:09:52.520 --> 02:09:56.439
Let's be want to be bebies together, Mike Blazer bros. Yeah we

1934
02:09:56.520 --> 02:10:00.600
can do that, can I?
I like? Fully in did my I

1935
02:10:00.760 --> 02:10:07.439
wear horses on my shirts? Now? It was, yeah, like you

1936
02:10:07.520 --> 02:10:09.800
want it's It's great. It defines
you a little bit. I think it's

1937
02:10:11.079 --> 02:10:16.079
very jeff Lebowski, like if we're
it's Jeffrey Lebowski. Yeah yeah. And

1938
02:10:16.199 --> 02:10:20.239
if you're gonna do that like I
think you do it very well. Okay,

1939
02:10:20.279 --> 02:10:24.520
someone I'm sticking with it. Just
shine like a giant light at me

1940
02:10:24.680 --> 02:10:26.920
at all times. I really want
to pull off that Ben Star look a

1941
02:10:26.960 --> 02:10:33.359
lot of you if you just turn
around and but yeah, the light what

1942
02:10:33.479 --> 02:10:37.000
an absolute delightful person. Yes,
it's your first time meeting Ben Huh.

1943
02:10:37.319 --> 02:10:39.960
Yeah, I you know. And
it was funny like we were setting up

1944
02:10:39.960 --> 02:10:43.720
that sketch that we did that to
Ope in the live show, which you

1945
02:10:43.720 --> 02:10:46.479
haven't seen. It'll be at the
beginning of the live show. Uh.

1946
02:10:46.840 --> 02:10:48.640
And my first original idea was like
Dan do this, and Dan hadn't met

1947
02:10:48.680 --> 02:10:52.920
been Star before, so it's like, I don't know. And then as

1948
02:10:52.960 --> 02:10:54.880
soon as he met Ben Star,
he's like, man, that guy's really

1949
02:10:54.000 --> 02:10:56.920
nice. Like we had out with
Ben more. You get it now?

1950
02:10:58.640 --> 02:11:03.279
Yeah, we should absolutely be those
be the be the bookends to the Game

1951
02:11:03.319 --> 02:11:09.600
Awards. Everyone tell Kiley, we'll
have people. Hopefully doesn't watch this,

1952
02:11:09.920 --> 02:11:16.840
but people will say that he is
very good at taking criticism and he does

1953
02:11:16.960 --> 02:11:20.479
not ever like snap at people if
he has I haven't seen it. He

1954
02:11:20.600 --> 02:11:24.760
does like you could tell he's defensive, because everyone gets defensive when they hear

1955
02:11:24.760 --> 02:11:28.560
criticism. Everyone does. But he
does a pretty decent job of at least

1956
02:11:28.600 --> 02:11:31.439
like letting it air and having it
set to his face, and he takes

1957
02:11:31.439 --> 02:11:33.439
it and he tries to internalize it. I think it's going to be hard

1958
02:11:33.479 --> 02:11:37.199
to change his nature, but I
do want to like shout him out for

1959
02:11:37.279 --> 02:11:41.199
listening. Yeah, I will continue
to praise him for this section of the

1960
02:11:41.279 --> 02:11:43.520
show, as we're all doing,
because we want him to do a thing

1961
02:11:43.600 --> 02:11:48.119
we want to do. We're glazing
Jeff, We're glazing healing No. One

1962
02:11:48.159 --> 02:11:52.439
of the more cooler heads in the
entire industry, right, Like, yeah,

1963
02:11:52.439 --> 02:11:54.359
I think that is. Honestly,
he can't deny what he's stilling to

1964
02:11:54.479 --> 02:11:58.479
do what he's doing. I don't
know who else I would trust, right,

1965
02:11:58.640 --> 02:12:01.880
Yeah, yeah, I'll do it. Okay, sorry, never mind,

1966
02:12:01.760 --> 02:12:07.960
take it back. It's all yours. But like yo, keels Man,

1967
02:12:07.199 --> 02:12:11.119
think about it. It makes sense, baby, Just do what I

1968
02:12:11.199 --> 02:12:16.239
mean. Three jets rocking the name. Come on, come on, let's

1969
02:12:16.239 --> 02:12:20.359
go, come on, we have
a podcast. It's Jeff Jeff right,

1970
02:12:20.960 --> 02:12:26.760
itsel itself. I'm really good at
pressing buttons. I'm cold about it.

1971
02:12:26.960 --> 02:12:30.560
As long as it's not a fucking
try caster that'll burn that ship to the

1972
02:12:30.600 --> 02:12:33.479
crowd. Use a trycaster for that
show? God, God, I would

1973
02:12:33.560 --> 02:12:39.920
I know I do not something real
big? Yeah, I'd rather use a

1974
02:12:39.039 --> 02:12:43.439
think pad or some ship anyway,
we're gonna take a quick breaking break and

1975
02:12:43.560 --> 02:12:56.960
then we'll be back with your emails. Emails are what we're about to do.

1976
02:12:58.239 --> 02:13:01.640
We're gonna we're gonna read them.
We're gonna say, what's happening with

1977
02:13:01.720 --> 02:13:09.079
your bottle? There? That's just
catching this god race? Yeah? Are

1978
02:13:09.159 --> 02:13:13.199
you channeling in ben Star there right
now? That's two X ray tracing there.

1979
02:13:16.640 --> 02:13:20.359
Don't eat it. It's it's bad
for your tummy. Uh, but

1980
02:13:20.479 --> 02:13:24.479
you know it's good for your tummy. Emails from you the folks at home,

1981
02:13:24.960 --> 02:13:28.520
send your emails to bombcasta giant bomb
dot com. I read all of

1982
02:13:28.600 --> 02:13:31.640
them. I appreciate them. I'm
going to buy a whole set of magnets

1983
02:13:31.800 --> 02:13:39.279
now to properly display them on my
refrigerator. The first email in question comes

1984
02:13:39.760 --> 02:13:46.840
from Paul uh Dear bombers, what
is it about Tim Sweeney that makes seemingly

1985
02:13:46.079 --> 02:13:50.760
everyone mildly dislike him? Of course, he has overseen layhouse and other CEO

1986
02:13:50.920 --> 02:13:54.960
things, but as far as I
know, he hasn't done anything particularly scummy.

1987
02:13:56.560 --> 02:13:58.319
Most of the big things he has
done are arguably good. Ye people

1988
02:13:58.399 --> 02:14:03.880
constantly class on him. Epic makes
a competitor Steam that's great. Steam could

1989
02:14:03.920 --> 02:14:07.119
use some competition. Epic stores try
to attract users by constantly giving them giving

1990
02:14:07.159 --> 02:14:11.520
away free games. That's awesome.
What do people think? They fucking hate

1991
02:14:11.520 --> 02:14:16.920
it? Epic launches a lawsuit against
Google and Apple. Good those corporations have

1992
02:14:16.000 --> 02:14:20.199
way too much power already. What
do they say? You shouldn't parody that

1993
02:14:20.279 --> 02:14:24.720
Big Brother commercial during these trying times, even though the original commercial was about

1994
02:14:24.760 --> 02:14:31.239
Apple itself taking on established monopolies.
Epic launches a metaverse with the most equitable

1995
02:14:31.319 --> 02:14:35.560
revenue split. I've ever seen people
still prefer roadblocks. I just don't get

1996
02:14:35.640 --> 02:14:43.119
it, cheers Paul. Yeah,
he's It is a bit about the attitude.

1997
02:14:43.000 --> 02:14:46.319
You know, when you meet someone
you're like, oh, this person

1998
02:14:46.399 --> 02:14:50.039
has a certain energy that immediately isn't
my vibe. Tim Sam Sweeney has that

1999
02:14:50.159 --> 02:14:54.520
kind of on a big level.
And it I mean it is stuff like,

2000
02:14:54.600 --> 02:15:00.880
oh, we are gonna be like
trying to in it the energy of

2001
02:15:01.039 --> 02:15:05.640
the Fortnite Army to hashtag say Fortnite
go attack these other companies on our behalf

2002
02:15:05.680 --> 02:15:09.399
and here we made a commercial about
it. That is a commercial for our

2003
02:15:09.520 --> 02:15:13.920
lawsuit. They have worked for the
lawsuit. It's cringey. Yeah, I'm

2004
02:15:13.960 --> 02:15:18.319
saying, but it's cringey. No, could there's nothing wrong with using the

2005
02:15:18.359 --> 02:15:22.159
word cringey, Like he not only
okay, I mean cringing about it,

2006
02:15:22.079 --> 02:15:26.479
he's cringing about cringing. Yeah.
Like he just seems like a deeply unlikable

2007
02:15:26.560 --> 02:15:31.159
person front to back. Also,
you know it doesn't really matter, But

2008
02:15:31.439 --> 02:15:37.159
howcome Wikipedia doesn't know how old Tim
Sweety is. It's like he's either fifty

2009
02:15:37.239 --> 02:15:41.960
two or fifty three. What is
that even possible anymore? Like, it's

2010
02:15:41.039 --> 02:15:43.560
not my business. I should have
just gets it though, But I've never

2011
02:15:43.720 --> 02:15:52.039
seen that with care exactly how old
he is. Yeah. I also I

2012
02:15:52.199 --> 02:15:58.119
dislike the way he frames the arguments
about how everything against him is unfair in

2013
02:15:58.239 --> 02:16:01.720
a scheme, Like he always says, like the thirty percent store cuts,

2014
02:16:01.840 --> 02:16:03.439
those are taxes. It's like,
that's that's not a tax. That's not

2015
02:16:03.520 --> 02:16:05.920
what a tax is. It's a
fee that you have to pay to use

2016
02:16:05.960 --> 02:16:09.560
someone else's services. Yes, but
just because you don't like it doesn't make

2017
02:16:09.560 --> 02:16:13.800
it a tax. And he does
that with everything. Every time he talks

2018
02:16:13.800 --> 02:16:16.560
about something doesn't like, it's always
framed in those terms. And I find

2019
02:16:16.600 --> 02:16:20.560
that off putt Yeah, right,
So the things that are against it,

2020
02:16:20.560 --> 02:16:22.159
are unethical, and it's like,
I find this off putting. You can

2021
02:16:22.279 --> 02:16:26.960
have a winning argument without having to
put up the straw man in every single

2022
02:16:28.119 --> 02:16:31.399
possible argument. It's very annoying to
me. Look, it's great that,

2023
02:16:31.560 --> 02:16:33.760
like, yeah, Steam does need
a competitor, and they're in this position

2024
02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:37.120
to make one, and he didn't
make a great one. I wish they

2025
02:16:37.120 --> 02:16:41.239
did a better job there, right, And I again, I think it

2026
02:16:41.360 --> 02:16:43.799
was like trying to use the power
of like people being like, oh,

2027
02:16:43.040 --> 02:16:46.200
we can get these free games,
and even the people that were against Epic

2028
02:16:46.239 --> 02:16:50.319
at the time, it's like that
there are arguments were a little bit misplaced.

2029
02:16:50.319 --> 02:16:52.440
They just I just want my stuff
on Steam. But it's like I

2030
02:16:52.520 --> 02:16:54.159
could have told you, Tim Sweeney
that this wasn't gonna work. And if

2031
02:16:54.159 --> 02:16:56.920
you would have taken all that money
you spent trying to make the Epic Game

2032
02:16:56.959 --> 02:17:01.000
Store and instead used it to published
games like you ended up doing with Allen

2033
02:17:01.079 --> 02:17:05.479
Wake two, that would have been
a much better use of everyone's time and

2034
02:17:05.639 --> 02:17:09.559
money. But he holds beefs and
they're so obvious in public that again,

2035
02:17:09.639 --> 02:17:13.000
that's something that rubs me the wrong
way. I don't hate him, but

2036
02:17:13.120 --> 02:17:16.680
It's like it is the kind of
guy I spotted a party and be like,

2037
02:17:16.760 --> 02:17:18.079
Oh, I'm going to avoid that
side of the room because I know

2038
02:17:18.120 --> 02:17:20.520
if I end up over there,
I'm just gonna get like a headache.

2039
02:17:20.639 --> 02:17:24.600
And that's that's how I feel about
it. Was he the crypto guy too?

2040
02:17:26.079 --> 02:17:28.920
Yeah? I think he was.
He was like metaverse guy. He

2041
02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:33.280
definitely was like we'll Oh, Steam's
not gonna let crypto stuff beyond on Uh,

2042
02:17:33.600 --> 02:17:37.440
Steam will do it on Epic.
He said that ship. He says

2043
02:17:37.440 --> 02:17:39.600
that kind of shit all the time. He's definitely the metaverse guy. But

2044
02:17:39.879 --> 02:17:43.079
I mean, in his defense,
at least their make It Fortnite so and

2045
02:17:45.680 --> 02:17:48.360
is the closest thing we have to
that, right, other than Roadblocks,

2046
02:17:48.360 --> 02:17:52.040
which is actually even more of a
metal I mean, on top of Bruno,

2047
02:17:52.559 --> 02:17:58.440
at least he doesn't actively practice magic
and you know illusion, You're right,

2048
02:18:00.079 --> 02:18:03.319
any pictures that sweet is at our
games Beat event, he walked into

2049
02:18:03.360 --> 02:18:05.319
the green room, mouths in just
some and be's like, Hi, I'm

2050
02:18:05.360 --> 02:18:07.920
Randy. It's like, Hi,
I'm Mike. I hope you don't know

2051
02:18:07.959 --> 02:18:16.719
who I am, all right.
Next email comes from Andrew in Central Illinois.

2052
02:18:16.200 --> 02:18:20.440
Hey, bomb cast, Why don't
you call around the rooms and he

2053
02:18:20.600 --> 02:18:26.200
says something nice about Jeff Grub.
Thanks Andrew Central Illinois. Oh easy,

2054
02:18:26.360 --> 02:18:33.079
Jeff Grub. We're glazing Grub right
now. Is someone who will just get

2055
02:18:33.159 --> 02:18:37.879
it done and that's what you need. Yeah, doesn't ask questions, doesn't

2056
02:18:37.959 --> 02:18:41.840
say well how do I do this, just gets it fucking done. He's

2057
02:18:41.920 --> 02:18:46.479
the ultimate grease man. He will
fucking rock it and you don't have to

2058
02:18:46.520 --> 02:18:52.600
worry about anything. The kid comes
in. He has endless amounts of energy.

2059
02:18:52.760 --> 02:18:56.799
He has an endless, limitless tank, which I do not understand.

2060
02:18:58.559 --> 02:19:05.399
He is very much in many ways
I think people should aspire to be when

2061
02:19:05.440 --> 02:19:09.399
it comes to interviewing people, because
you know, having done a lot of

2062
02:19:09.440 --> 02:19:13.799
that work myself at snet, which
was a technology website that from a while

2063
02:19:13.879 --> 02:19:18.000
back that no one knows about it
anymore, but just the ability to like

2064
02:19:18.159 --> 02:19:22.079
Riff and yes, and especially when
you are interviewing all different kinds of people

2065
02:19:22.120 --> 02:19:28.280
from all walks of life and juggling
everyone's background. I know, we talk

2066
02:19:28.319 --> 02:19:31.600
about how awesome it is that he
does, but we still we still do

2067
02:19:31.760 --> 02:19:35.799
not give him enough credit with how
difficult that is to do. And yeah,

2068
02:19:37.040 --> 02:19:39.120
like who also doesn't love hugging a
big old teddy bear, Like that's

2069
02:19:39.200 --> 02:19:43.680
that's cool too, and that's Jeff
Grubb. Yeah power. Now I throw

2070
02:19:45.120 --> 02:19:48.680
miscellaneous questions into the universe, and
I used to do that and now would

2071
02:19:48.680 --> 02:19:50.920
just throw them at Grub. I
think Grub will at least humor me,

2072
02:19:52.440 --> 02:19:56.040
at least try to answer. I
really will. Yeah, Granpa has no

2073
02:19:56.159 --> 02:20:01.200
problem being the big or the little
spoon right. Admire that about him.

2074
02:20:01.639 --> 02:20:07.600
A man, Am I dying?
Is that what's happening? I mean,

2075
02:20:07.680 --> 02:20:11.520
aren't we all? Are we?
Aren't we all? You made that joke

2076
02:20:11.600 --> 02:20:15.639
to me pretty good after you got
everybody at the JW to sing happy birthdays

2077
02:20:15.680 --> 02:20:20.280
at me. You're like, honestly, I could not I could not believe

2078
02:20:20.399 --> 02:20:26.680
that started to happen. Like I
love that that it accepted someone and someone

2079
02:20:26.719 --> 02:20:30.000
took it too seriously. Yeah,
I was over you guys, and you

2080
02:20:30.079 --> 02:20:33.040
guys it was like, oh,
this is happening. Uh yeah, So

2081
02:20:33.000 --> 02:20:37.559
I can't believe. That's the thing
I believe most is that that happened because

2082
02:20:37.559 --> 02:20:39.000
I just like, look at Micha. I'm like, yeah, this is

2083
02:20:39.040 --> 02:20:41.879
going to happen. As soon as
the idea got out in the air,

2084
02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:43.399
it's like this whole room is going
to be saying his birthdays, I think,

2085
02:20:43.479 --> 02:20:48.000
including Howard saying happy, including Pod
Howard and Kyle Rowley. So several

2086
02:20:48.079 --> 02:20:52.959
game directors singing birthday to Mike naughty. Howard was right there. He was

2087
02:20:52.040 --> 02:20:54.280
like on the other side of our
couch, so there was no way.

2088
02:20:54.520 --> 02:21:00.680
Yeah, he was just going to
put his hands on it would be no

2089
02:21:00.920 --> 02:21:05.239
birthday. It was really funny.
It was it was impacked room and everyone

2090
02:21:05.360 --> 02:21:07.920
was saying oh and it was yeah, it was. It was one of

2091
02:21:07.000 --> 02:21:13.200
the yeah I'm happy to be a
part of those things. Guys. Yes,

2092
02:21:13.440 --> 02:21:16.600
it's true. It's true. We
could go on forever. Also,

2093
02:21:16.920 --> 02:21:20.840
just to explain context, the children
are now saying glaze. Yeah, yeah,

2094
02:21:20.959 --> 02:21:26.280
yeah, I still think you're talking
about semen. I gotta be honest.

2095
02:21:26.440 --> 02:21:28.600
No, gris and glazes are different. Wait, yeah glaze. They

2096
02:21:28.639 --> 02:21:31.319
are talking. Well, if you
rizz someone up, aren't you also sort

2097
02:21:31.360 --> 02:21:35.479
of like it's like you see your
your your your charisma, charisma. Okay,

2098
02:21:35.520 --> 02:21:39.959
yeah, yeah that's up. You're
like you're you're slobbing on their gog.

2099
02:21:39.239 --> 02:21:45.719
Right, not necessarily go ahead,
Jim, to glaze is like kissing

2100
02:21:45.799 --> 02:21:48.360
someone's butt, right, yes,
okay, and like I don't like it

2101
02:21:48.760 --> 02:21:52.079
either way. All right, what
a different word? You love donuts?

2102
02:21:52.120 --> 02:21:56.639
What do you mean don't you like
a good glazed donut? It's like,

2103
02:21:58.280 --> 02:22:01.280
oh, like wow, this glaze
is perfect, but not too much glaze

2104
02:22:01.360 --> 02:22:09.760
to clear your context? Was glazing? Somebody's asshole was saliva. We didn't

2105
02:22:09.760 --> 02:22:13.959
even I feel like, speaking of
eating, we didn't even like go over

2106
02:22:13.239 --> 02:22:16.239
some of the things we all took
part in. And there's some things that

2107
02:22:16.360 --> 02:22:20.040
I am not happy about. We
ate one hundred nuggets, we ate a

2108
02:22:20.200 --> 02:22:24.360
hundred nuggets. I am so sad
I missed out on that. I'm so

2109
02:22:24.559 --> 02:22:31.840
sad. We were red Ford and
uh and Megan ever and it was just

2110
02:22:31.360 --> 02:22:37.239
three good jan jan you would have
well that's when grug cosplayed as Bernie Lomax

2111
02:22:37.280 --> 02:22:43.520
from Bernie exactly. Dan and Nikki
were there too, Minati and we just

2112
02:22:45.440 --> 02:22:48.639
even I had like I had five
nuggets and it was fucked up. We

2113
02:22:48.719 --> 02:22:54.280
went down on those chicken nuggets.
My guy, my guy. Hey,

2114
02:22:54.520 --> 02:22:56.600
Glazed shouts out to Nikki, what
a fun time it is hanging out.

2115
02:22:56.760 --> 02:23:01.799
Yeah, it was great. You
know a lot of cool fun people actually

2116
02:23:01.920 --> 02:23:07.879
turns out. Yeah, we're also
very great and very cool hang out with

2117
02:23:09.000 --> 02:23:15.120
them. Yeah, yeah, like
Ralph from Skill Up and Baldino. Getting

2118
02:23:15.159 --> 02:23:22.319
to see those guys again. Young
yeah, young Due. I had never

2119
02:23:22.440 --> 02:23:28.639
met Stu is the Bee's knees Man
and Stu and I Stu, you guys

2120
02:23:28.680 --> 02:23:33.680
like blonde hair. Oh I know
it's from the rug Rats. Yeah that's

2121
02:23:33.719 --> 02:23:39.479
what we're talking about. Really.
Yeah, Stu and I had a fun

2122
02:23:39.559 --> 02:23:41.920
time at the remedy at the Remedy
party room. That was a good time.

2123
02:23:43.399 --> 02:23:46.680
Yeah, just joshing it up.
I don't know how the Remedy party

2124
02:23:46.799 --> 02:23:48.719
room things still happened, but yeah, yeah, I was like just talking

2125
02:23:48.719 --> 02:23:50.239
to something. You're like, we're
in the remedy room. I'm like,

2126
02:23:50.319 --> 02:23:52.680
I do not know what that it
was. Ralph, to be honest,

2127
02:23:52.719 --> 02:23:56.760
like grabbed us and was just like, yeah, I don't want to give

2128
02:23:56.760 --> 02:24:01.719
you any but that night was that
I and I'm sorry it was it was

2129
02:24:01.959 --> 02:24:07.760
It was cool. It was us. I drank that week. Yeah,

2130
02:24:09.040 --> 02:24:13.000
yeah, that was that was something
else. But see, but you had

2131
02:24:13.079 --> 02:24:16.879
fun too, Jan you were you
were you remember I don't shout out to

2132
02:24:18.040 --> 02:24:20.840
Chris. Shout out Chris. That's
right. Yeah, I'm glad he escaped

2133
02:24:22.520 --> 02:24:28.799
just kind of him. Chris is
back in the hole. Get glazed my

2134
02:24:28.520 --> 02:24:35.799
head? He did get anyway?
Yeah, okay, all right, you

2135
02:24:35.879 --> 02:24:37.680
know what. We we would running
a little long, but that's fine.

2136
02:24:37.760 --> 02:24:41.120
Let's do Oh we only have three
more emails. Let's speak, can do

2137
02:24:41.200 --> 02:24:45.600
this, We could do this,
all right. The next one comes from

2138
02:24:45.680 --> 02:24:50.239
anonymous Hey, bomb Arinos, long
time, first time, But after the

2139
02:24:50.319 --> 02:24:54.680
discussion about Bethesda steamerview responses on the
most recent BombCast, I wanted to chime

2140
02:24:54.799 --> 02:24:58.719
in with a take on the subject. For context, I mean community manager

2141
02:24:58.799 --> 02:25:03.159
in the games industry with close to
a decade of experience working on many different

2142
02:25:03.200 --> 02:25:07.159
games across a variety of genres.
Responding to Steam reviews isn't a new thing,

2143
02:25:07.440 --> 02:25:13.040
but best practices say to only respond
in order to correct factual misinformation or

2144
02:25:13.120 --> 02:25:18.639
call out patches or bug fixes.
In my experience, when canned responses like

2145
02:25:18.680 --> 02:25:22.440
the ones we've seen are employed to
respond to reviews, orders have always come

2146
02:25:22.479 --> 02:25:28.600
from management or executive level. It's
highly unlikely that this is a rogue customer

2147
02:25:28.680 --> 02:25:33.159
support person trying to fight for Starfield's
good name. It's more likely that someone

2148
02:25:33.280 --> 02:25:39.879
on the executive level start saw Starfield's
middling steam score in order the customer support

2149
02:25:39.000 --> 02:25:43.200
people to respond to reviews and attempt
to flip them, or they had pressure

2150
02:25:43.239 --> 02:25:48.440
from stockholders who also panicked because of
the Steam score. Thanks for letting me

2151
02:25:48.559 --> 02:25:52.600
share my take. Keep casting a
fantastic pod, Anonymous. It's definitely got

2152
02:25:52.719 --> 02:25:56.280
to be from an executive, because
only somebody who doesn't have a grasp on

2153
02:25:56.399 --> 02:25:58.639
reality would be like, well,
if we fight back, we can.

2154
02:26:00.399 --> 02:26:03.520
We could make these steam reviews.
But if we tell people that empty planets

2155
02:26:03.520 --> 02:26:07.440
aren't boring because real astronauts went to
the moon and thought that it was pretty

2156
02:26:07.520 --> 02:26:11.680
cool, they'll see the lights.
Yeah, yeah, I always said the

2157
02:26:11.760 --> 02:26:16.600
sense that this was from the top
down. That's what it always felt like

2158
02:26:16.639 --> 02:26:18.639
to me. So I agree with
this email. Hey what about that super

2159
02:26:18.760 --> 02:26:26.000
passive aggressive Starfield trailer that played during
the game awards. That's three awards.

2160
02:26:26.440 --> 02:26:30.719
We don't need any guys so much. I was like, that's like me

2161
02:26:30.879 --> 02:26:35.639
telling my friends going to the prom
that I hope they have fun. I

2162
02:26:35.719 --> 02:26:37.600
made a video for you guys about
having fun tonight. All right, here

2163
02:26:37.680 --> 02:26:41.879
you go. I think it was
also like that script font at the end

2164
02:26:43.000 --> 02:26:46.719
too, that felt very much like
generic wedding invitation fund. Yeah, it

2165
02:26:46.840 --> 02:26:52.040
was just like from SNL. Yeah, this thing right, this feels icky?

2166
02:26:52.440 --> 02:26:58.360
All right, last two emails here
high BombCast. Before the rest of

2167
02:26:58.440 --> 02:27:01.040
this email is read back, Laar
needs to take a couple of deep breaths.

2168
02:27:01.680 --> 02:27:05.000
This email might upset him, though
not in a way he can anticipate.

2169
02:27:07.959 --> 02:27:11.000
I'm already starting off real poorly,
doing bad. Okay, let's hear

2170
02:27:11.040 --> 02:27:18.360
it now. Dan Reichert is seen
as a culinary visionary and genius Jeff Backlar

2171
02:27:18.639 --> 02:27:22.040
as Rekert's disciple. What have you
learned under records tutelage, remember deep breaths.

2172
02:27:22.440 --> 02:27:26.920
Have you learned any culinary hacks or
just important life lessons from Kert?

2173
02:27:26.319 --> 02:27:31.360
Have you recently have you recently talked
about your dislike of watermelons? Have you

2174
02:27:31.600 --> 02:27:35.760
become less of a piggy eater while
working with Dan Reichert. With the best

2175
02:27:35.799 --> 02:27:41.639
of regards, Danny C, Dan
rec Sorry, i I'm just not wait,

2176
02:27:43.040 --> 02:27:48.040
okay, okay, with the best
level of regards Dan ree C Kirtfinn,

2177
02:27:48.959 --> 02:27:54.440
I just don't understand what I'm supposed
to do with this email. What

2178
02:27:54.639 --> 02:27:58.360
is this saying? What is this
positing? Is this saying? Is this

2179
02:27:58.680 --> 02:28:03.319
is this one does this want me
to like, yeah, imagining a world

2180
02:28:03.360 --> 02:28:07.479
in which this is true. Because
you ever learned anything, especially if it's

2181
02:28:07.520 --> 02:28:11.200
food related, great, But just
anything, I guess from Dan. Have

2182
02:28:11.319 --> 02:28:18.000
I learned anything from Dan? I
don't know. I think what I've learned

2183
02:28:18.040 --> 02:28:26.680
from Dan is that you should never
assume that anyone is You should never assume

2184
02:28:26.719 --> 02:28:31.360
that anyone is in like uh,
you should never assume that someone is the

2185
02:28:31.399 --> 02:28:37.040
way you expect them to be.
I think from like a social interactive sort

2186
02:28:37.079 --> 02:28:39.559
of point of view. And I
don't know if I can even give Dan

2187
02:28:39.680 --> 02:28:43.920
all the credit for that, but
I just look, there's a look I

2188
02:28:45.040 --> 02:28:48.159
find myself, even at the dinner
the other night, just sort of like

2189
02:28:48.719 --> 02:28:54.360
talking to Dan about things that I
assumed that he knew about. You know,

2190
02:28:56.920 --> 02:29:05.799
I remember the conversation. Maybe not
that conversation specifically, but you know,

2191
02:29:05.079 --> 02:29:09.479
yeah, I guess I guess what
I've learned from Dan is to just

2192
02:29:09.559 --> 02:29:15.440
not take anything too seriously. And
that's maybe something we could all do better.

2193
02:29:16.280 --> 02:29:18.639
Even I was a little surprised I
should have known better that he did

2194
02:29:18.680 --> 02:29:20.559
it, like got zero bitus would. I was like, He's not gonna

2195
02:29:20.559 --> 02:29:24.680
be that bothered because it's in subtitles, and because like you know, there's

2196
02:29:24.840 --> 02:29:28.760
dialogue scenes right, and because there's
characters that have like no emotions. Well,

2197
02:29:28.840 --> 02:29:31.040
I nailed it, I said,
Dan, it's just because you had

2198
02:29:31.079 --> 02:29:35.600
to read subtitles, is what you'd
have been. Yeah, that's definitely what

2199
02:29:35.719 --> 02:29:39.239
happened. I'm reading. I'm reading
this email now. If the first sentence

2200
02:29:39.239 --> 02:29:43.159
of the second paraca says now common
Dan Recherd is seen as a culinary vision

2201
02:29:43.239 --> 02:29:48.680
and genius, there's no one who's
read it's written by who's written by?

2202
02:29:48.719 --> 02:29:56.040
Again? Dan, I get?
I see Dan? Okay? Great?

2203
02:29:56.200 --> 02:30:00.639
I think we were just worked.
Yeah it works? Is that? I

2204
02:30:01.040 --> 02:30:05.680
I think Okay has Dan's like versions, Like when you see Dan like act

2205
02:30:05.760 --> 02:30:07.399
in a way that we're like,
oh my god, he's being such a

2206
02:30:07.440 --> 02:30:09.040
baby. Does that make you want
to be better about things? We're like,

2207
02:30:09.120 --> 02:30:13.280
I don't want to be perceived as
being Dan like oh yeah, Like

2208
02:30:13.559 --> 02:30:16.440
he's certainly the canary in the coal
mine in a lot of ways where you're

2209
02:30:16.479 --> 02:30:20.159
just like, oh, that's the
worst way to handle that. That's not

2210
02:30:20.440 --> 02:30:22.879
going to do that. Memories of
last week are now flooding back because I

2211
02:30:24.000 --> 02:30:28.159
remember when when Dan showed the table
at Mike's dinner a picture of his dad.

2212
02:30:28.520 --> 02:30:33.479
Bailey just chied me in like,
oh no, was your dad hot?

2213
02:30:35.840 --> 02:30:39.840
Right? That did happen? It
was very funny because then you guys

2214
02:30:39.879 --> 02:30:43.760
turned over us and you go Dan's
parents were hot, and there's a beat

2215
02:30:43.959 --> 02:30:52.840
and Mike goes, well, what
happened to him? Mean? He was

2216
02:30:52.879 --> 02:30:56.959
so bad When I'm like, bet
to David beat to me all the time?

2217
02:30:58.920 --> 02:31:03.319
It to him? Yeah, like
Dan in at every moment, he's

2218
02:31:03.440 --> 02:31:07.079
just looking to mess with people,
like you know, and and sometimes uncomfortably

2219
02:31:07.200 --> 02:31:11.680
so, but he as someone who
does get very uncomfortable as well, Like

2220
02:31:13.319 --> 02:31:15.399
I don't know if he can take
it as much as he can dish it

2221
02:31:15.479 --> 02:31:20.120
out, you know. Yeah,
Hey, here's a little thought experiment for

2222
02:31:20.360 --> 02:31:24.799
for my friends. Here. Did
did Dan technically tea bag Jeff Backler's bed?

2223
02:31:26.760 --> 02:31:30.600
Yeah? Yes, sounds like he
back my pillow? Mm hmm.

2224
02:31:30.719 --> 02:31:33.719
He's gonna be too bag in a
security deposit real soon, that's what he's

2225
02:31:33.760 --> 02:31:37.440
gonna be doing. Here went to
that everyone here went to that eighties bar

2226
02:31:37.559 --> 02:31:41.040
that Bailey oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, fantastic,

2227
02:31:41.159 --> 02:31:43.680
that's fine. That was great that
place to go. Maybe just because of

2228
02:31:43.719 --> 02:31:46.479
my birthday, and I had alreadyen
drinking. I got very excited that the

2229
02:31:46.559 --> 02:31:50.280
place was called break Room eighty six
and I was born in nineteen eighty six.

2230
02:31:52.040 --> 02:31:54.840
Birthday. You were very excited to
tell everyone that I thought it was

2231
02:31:54.000 --> 02:31:56.440
no one. No one else seemed
to care. Well, we didn't care,

2232
02:31:56.520 --> 02:32:01.000
because you know, h thirty seven
is just an insignificant number for that,

2233
02:32:01.680 --> 02:32:05.399
like eighty six, what a queak? You think? What's not?

2234
02:32:05.600 --> 02:32:09.440
We went there because of that.
It's masterfully planned. You had a one

2235
02:32:09.479 --> 02:32:11.479
out of ten shot for an eighties
bar. I guess you know, I

2236
02:32:11.520 --> 02:32:15.399
guess I got that picture of you
in the phone booth there. Oh yeah,

2237
02:32:15.479 --> 02:32:18.079
yeah, I got that too.
It's a good it's a good photo.

2238
02:32:18.200 --> 02:32:20.079
Yeah. That place was fun,
a lot of like video screenshooting random

2239
02:32:20.120 --> 02:32:24.680
eighties things. I started asking everybody
what their favorite eighties movie was. Yeah,

2240
02:32:24.760 --> 02:32:26.920
why are you asking me this?
Like we're in an eighties bar.

2241
02:32:26.639 --> 02:32:30.680
I was fun as to why you
were asking me that? Me too.

2242
02:32:31.040 --> 02:32:33.680
It seems like you had read like
the post page. I feel exactly why

2243
02:32:33.760 --> 02:32:37.159
you were asking me. You's gonna
make it clear. It was very obvious

2244
02:32:37.200 --> 02:32:39.440
why you were asking because we were
at an eighties themed bar was your answer

2245
02:32:39.440 --> 02:32:43.520
again, Mike, I can't.
I can't remember the future Empire Back.

2246
02:32:43.760 --> 02:32:46.600
Empire Strikes Back is like such an
obvious one that I almost feel bad saying

2247
02:32:46.600 --> 02:32:50.639
it, so I get say it's
probably Empire Back to the Future Part two.

2248
02:32:50.760 --> 02:32:54.799
Uh. Maybe Star Trek four the
one with whales. Yeah, I

2249
02:32:54.840 --> 02:32:58.200
love Star Trek four. Ron is
defly the most Eighties movie that I like

2250
02:32:58.280 --> 02:33:00.600
a lot. I panicked and said, Top Guy. I don't know if

2251
02:33:00.639 --> 02:33:03.600
Top Gun is my favorite eighties movie. It's very good, though, I

2252
02:33:03.680 --> 02:33:05.079
mean, the eighties are so long
ago and I wasn't even born yet,

2253
02:33:05.079 --> 02:33:09.760
so I don't know. A yeah, and comments, what's your favorite eighties

2254
02:33:09.840 --> 02:33:15.799
movie this show? I said,
Trading Places right like Fielder Dreams a lot?

2255
02:33:15.959 --> 02:33:18.600
Sure, Okay, okay, Sorry
to this emailer. I didn't write

2256
02:33:18.639 --> 02:33:22.959
your name down. I didn't copy
it over, but they wrote in Hi,

2257
02:33:22.120 --> 02:33:26.840
folks. The Coen Brothers have approved
the remake of The Big Lebowski,

2258
02:33:26.120 --> 02:33:31.360
and they believe Giant Bam to be
prime candidates for helming the project. As

2259
02:33:31.399 --> 02:33:35.239
their agent, I've been asked to
provide the following casting suggestions. Jeff Beckler

2260
02:33:35.319 --> 02:33:41.200
as the Dude, Dan Reichert as
Walter Sabchak, Jeff Grubb as Donnie,

2261
02:33:41.799 --> 02:33:48.319
Mike Minatti as is it Jesus or
Jesus Jesus Jesus Yeah, Jana Sho as

2262
02:33:48.360 --> 02:33:52.760
Sam Elliott. Please offer feedback or
further suggestions. It feel free to include

2263
02:33:52.760 --> 02:33:56.360
auditions for parts of your podcast.
I will relate them to Ethan and Joel

2264
02:33:56.360 --> 02:34:00.719
as soon as possible. Yeah,
I'm sorry for that. I think.

2265
02:34:00.799 --> 02:34:03.120
No, I know I'm about to
say it. Let me, let me

2266
02:34:03.200 --> 02:34:07.600
do it. I was happy.
I'm happy to to hand off what should

2267
02:34:07.760 --> 02:34:13.319
clearly be Jeff Grubbs role as much
as I want to play. I think

2268
02:34:13.360 --> 02:34:18.200
you're you're Walter, but yeah,
I think you're gonna be as aggressive,

2269
02:34:18.280 --> 02:34:22.280
but you can get up there a
little bit. I do think Dan looks

2270
02:34:22.399 --> 02:34:26.360
more like Walter some ject, but
yeah, I could ease. I think

2271
02:34:26.399 --> 02:34:28.399
I could do that. Dan gived
me Jackie tree Horn. He could be

2272
02:34:28.440 --> 02:34:33.879
a weird pervert. Don't I have
Donny energy? Do I have Donny energy?

2273
02:34:35.159 --> 02:34:37.520
I love that you're the pedophile.
You could be Donny. Yeah,

2274
02:34:37.559 --> 02:34:41.600
I love it. But not he's
the pedophile. Okay, don't click that,

2275
02:34:41.639 --> 02:34:45.319
don't clickophile. No, he is
most certainly a sex criminal. In

2276
02:34:45.440 --> 02:34:50.799
this movie, Jesus is right.
Yeah he has to. Yeah yeah,

2277
02:34:50.879 --> 02:34:58.799
yeah, but then you have an
unfortunate situation where he dies. We're making

2278
02:34:58.879 --> 02:35:05.440
up movie. I think it was
just movie mad that was not real.

2279
02:35:05.760 --> 02:35:11.680
So Dan, okay, Dan Reichert
is Jackie Treehorn Okay. Yeah, he

2280
02:35:11.799 --> 02:35:18.639
treats objects like women. Man,
I learned about justifying over the past week.

2281
02:35:18.280 --> 02:35:26.639
That's wild. It's the I think
Jan's the real Lebowski. Yes,

2282
02:35:28.319 --> 02:35:31.639
that's a tough role. Actually,
I think Dan should be the big Lebowski.

2283
02:35:31.840 --> 02:35:35.079
Yeah. I can definitely see him
screaming about people not having jobs and

2284
02:35:35.120 --> 02:35:37.680
stuff like oh yeah, yeah,
he's definitely said ship like that before.

2285
02:35:37.959 --> 02:35:43.040
Yeah, Philip Seymour Hoffman like,
uh, I think you could do it

2286
02:35:43.280 --> 02:35:48.159
or or Tam Maybe I'm fine being
Sam Elliott. That's very flattering. I

2287
02:35:48.200 --> 02:35:58.040
appreciate it, very good. Yeah
yeah. In the bag man, there

2288
02:35:58.079 --> 02:36:01.719
we go, There we go.
Lest you use so many cuss words,

2289
02:36:01.799 --> 02:36:09.840
dude, I love saying who's gonna
be Peter Stammott, Peter Stamar just getting

2290
02:36:09.879 --> 02:36:15.840
back. Only he could do it, Only he could do it? What

2291
02:36:15.959 --> 02:36:24.360
about Bunny Lebowski. It's it's inappropriate
to say any of our female poll yeah

2292
02:36:28.360 --> 02:36:37.360
themselves, jop skirting around. I
wanted to make it weird, but also

2293
02:36:37.559 --> 02:36:41.000
was curious if anyone genuinely had an
idea Greg Bailler could be. It could

2294
02:36:41.000 --> 02:36:46.360
be Bunny Labowski. There you Greg
Miller presenting a toe and saying blow on

2295
02:36:46.520 --> 02:36:50.000
it. I was thinking about that
a lot when I ate my toe at

2296
02:36:50.040 --> 02:36:56.719
the game. Right, your cake
toe, your caketoe, please please?

2297
02:36:58.520 --> 02:37:01.319
All right? That does it for
emails. You can send your emails to

2298
02:37:01.399 --> 02:37:05.879
BombCast giant bomb dot com. We
got two more things to do before we

2299
02:37:07.040 --> 02:37:09.200
get out of here, folks,
and one of those things is the shout

2300
02:37:09.680 --> 02:37:15.239
out. Shouts out too, Jesse
Young, Elmo Vitelli, John Luke,

2301
02:37:15.399 --> 02:37:18.719
Cool Judge, Jake Decker, Michael
Heim, Blessing Marino, Zach and Company,

2302
02:37:18.799 --> 02:37:24.079
Emma, I put Michael him again
and in quotation Marks Chris, everyone

2303
02:37:24.120 --> 02:37:26.680
who helped behind the scenes at the
live show. Shouts out to Paolo On,

2304
02:37:26.799 --> 02:37:31.719
Sue and Toshi and Chuck and Corgi
Royalty. Y'all. You know who

2305
02:37:31.799 --> 02:37:33.280
loves you? I do, yes, you, I'm talking to you.

2306
02:37:33.479 --> 02:37:37.840
You are loved and you look at
fabulous Superman Smash Brothers Brawl one of the

2307
02:37:37.879 --> 02:37:43.520
best games all time, Mike Minatti, Destroyer of worlds who bashit? Thank

2308
02:37:43.639 --> 02:37:46.399
you? The muppets are Disney and
Gonzo fuckx, slash a Love's Chickens.

2309
02:37:46.760 --> 02:37:52.040
Would he be into Daisy put Nicki
Minaj in the Game Awards you cowards and

2310
02:37:52.200 --> 02:37:58.000
on the BombCast, Hey open seat
for Nicki Minaj. The time Chris got

2311
02:37:58.120 --> 02:38:01.440
creampighted on stage getting glazed in front
of everyone. Cyberpunk winning an award for

2312
02:38:01.520 --> 02:38:05.319
finally releasing their game out of open
beta and being darlings of the industry again

2313
02:38:05.680 --> 02:38:11.479
Parentheses Thanks CDPR Upper Management and Marketing
Team. Slash Kappa jan as the resident

2314
02:38:11.559 --> 02:38:16.920
Power Rangers in Tokusatsu. In general, person you ever get a chance to

2315
02:38:16.959 --> 02:38:20.280
see the shin common Rider or common
writer Black Sun since they hit Amazon.

2316
02:38:20.479 --> 02:38:22.959
Shouts out to Armden Rangers, Slash
Armed and Riters, Matt Shipman, I

2317
02:38:24.040 --> 02:38:26.959
miss you. I'm just bummed that
there will be no group. No group.

2318
02:38:28.040 --> 02:38:31.239
The day before Blake Club excited for
the incoming midnight mass for the Babinka

2319
02:38:31.319 --> 02:38:35.120
and no I'm not a vampire.
Hey, Hey, Hey, can fuck

2320
02:38:35.120 --> 02:38:39.239
to Google. I'm Janichoa and this
is my favorite podcast on the Internet where

2321
02:38:39.319 --> 02:38:41.600
the freaky frick is the man of
the myth legend John Falcon at the Live

2322
02:38:41.639 --> 02:38:46.879
show. All you need is grub. All you need is grub. Grub,

2323
02:38:46.399 --> 02:38:50.520
grub is all who need. Walt
on my goggins. This is me

2324
02:38:50.719 --> 02:38:56.280
Janechoa officially announcing the Giant Bomb Entertainment
Expo at the Peacock Theater June twenty seventh,

2325
02:38:56.280 --> 02:38:58.399
twenty twenty four. Fuire tickets now. By the way, I didn't

2326
02:38:58.440 --> 02:39:01.840
know that it is the Peacock Theater
now and maybe kind of sad that those

2327
02:39:03.120 --> 02:39:07.520
stupid little tiles with the big X
box like achievements wear in La Live anymore.

2328
02:39:07.680 --> 02:39:11.399
I was like, I thought those
were forever. Those were cemented into

2329
02:39:11.639 --> 02:39:20.799
La Live. You can jackhammer that
ship. So Henos is up, Hey,

2330
02:39:20.840 --> 02:39:24.559
Noos, fuck you, The pr
Team and Epic Games apparently in parentheses

2331
02:39:24.920 --> 02:39:31.120
in the Goo Goomba Dumper Cadence,
Mike Manadi Feet Ermanati feet or Tasty,

2332
02:39:31.399 --> 02:39:37.159
Mikey Cake Tasty, Mikey Swiggety Swoogety, I'm a coming for Kiele's boozy In

2333
02:39:37.360 --> 02:39:41.479
Eddie Vader's voice, I don't know
this one. Ooh, I'm spinning,

2334
02:39:41.840 --> 02:39:48.600
I'm spinning, I'm sprinting, I'm
spinning. I'm spin Thank you for giving

2335
02:39:48.639 --> 02:39:52.840
me the context jets. There you
go in this world covered by endless water,

2336
02:39:52.040 --> 02:39:56.479
legends, feel the hearts of many, pulling the trigger to dive into

2337
02:39:56.639 --> 02:40:00.360
mystery and myth, braving the depths
to explore what was left behind by the

2338
02:40:00.440 --> 02:40:03.440
old world. Yes, let us
remember them, those brave hearts with spirits

2339
02:40:03.479 --> 02:40:09.479
of steel as we recount there dig
outers, adventure stories and halcyon days.

2340
02:40:09.000 --> 02:40:13.799
May they rock on forever in our
hearts and big shots out. I don't

2341
02:40:13.840 --> 02:40:18.520
know, I just read, like, what are you on? Okay,

2342
02:40:18.040 --> 02:40:24.360
I just read on the raid.
Thanks man, max Shots, Minimis Maximus.

2343
02:40:24.559 --> 02:40:28.319
Then a big shouts out to all
the GB crew for pulling off a

2344
02:40:28.479 --> 02:40:31.520
great Game of the Year show.
To everyone involved. A big kiss on

2345
02:40:31.639 --> 02:40:35.000
the cheek and a big kiss on
the mouth from me. Uh hey,

2346
02:40:35.479 --> 02:40:39.399
hey, Jeff Beckler, Jeff Becklaugh, Jeff Beckler. There's one more thing

2347
02:40:39.440 --> 02:40:45.879
to announce. Oh oh my gosh. Yes, uh this was created and

2348
02:40:46.079 --> 02:40:52.319
inspired during the chaos of the game
Award Slash Game of the Year for sale.

2349
02:40:52.680 --> 02:40:58.079
Now you can have your very own
Flashlight game T shirt. That's right,

2350
02:41:00.639 --> 02:41:03.280
no one's ever done this before,
so we're gonna do it. Uh,

2351
02:41:05.360 --> 02:41:09.159
you can have your very own Flashlight
game. Uh, designed by the

2352
02:41:09.319 --> 02:41:13.959
one the only does this man ever
stop working, Jerem. My gosh,

2353
02:41:15.280 --> 02:41:22.959
what would Game of the Year be
without Jerem's help. I cannot begin to

2354
02:41:22.799 --> 02:41:31.360
explain just how crucial pivotabal, pivotal
and invaluable. Having him be at our

2355
02:41:31.399 --> 02:41:35.239
side throughout this whole process was so
such a big thank you, and uh,

2356
02:41:35.799 --> 02:41:39.239
you know, the latest fruits of
his laborers right here in this video

2357
02:41:39.280 --> 02:41:43.399
game called Flashlight Game, which you
have to you know, can I get

2358
02:41:43.440 --> 02:41:50.639
one in a Luigi's Mansion style?
Uh? No, it wouldn't be as

2359
02:41:50.719 --> 02:41:58.120
good as this one. It wouldn't
be Go check out Flashlight Game. The

2360
02:41:58.200 --> 02:42:03.399
T shirt. I feel like it's
like Spaceballs the djer that's on the store

2361
02:42:03.680 --> 02:42:05.399
dot Giant bomb dot com. You
can buy that right now. And on

2362
02:42:05.520 --> 02:42:09.760
the back there's a little uh there's
a little GB logo too, so wow,

2363
02:42:09.920 --> 02:42:13.200
GB logo just like it. Sweet, You're gonna be the little spoon

2364
02:42:13.280 --> 02:42:16.920
or the big spoon there m.
I feel like we do need a thermis

2365
02:42:18.040 --> 02:42:22.639
now to complete the package. It
took all of my willpower to not steal

2366
02:42:22.760 --> 02:42:26.079
that from the La set. I
know I saw you. Yeah, I

2367
02:42:26.159 --> 02:42:28.959
got mine over here, you son
of a bitch. Mike. Yeah,

2368
02:42:28.159 --> 02:42:31.200
I won't give it to you,
even though you like that game more than

2369
02:42:31.360 --> 02:42:35.719
because it's okay, Mike, I
understand. What do we got going on

2370
02:42:35.840 --> 02:42:39.959
for the rest of the week.
We got games mornings popping off Wednesday,

2371
02:42:39.159 --> 02:42:43.319
Thursday, Friday, right, Jeff. Yes, we'll do a Blake club

2372
02:42:43.399 --> 02:42:46.120
on Wednesday. Uh, tune in
tomorrow. That's tomorrow. I feel like

2373
02:42:46.120 --> 02:42:48.120
I'm supposed to do something else.
Oh, I have a doctor's appointment.

2374
02:42:48.120 --> 02:42:52.799
That's what it is. It's first
and stuff. Thursday, we'll have voicemail

2375
02:42:52.840 --> 02:42:54.760
dumb truck, right, Jam,
We've got a crew for that, yes,

2376
02:42:54.799 --> 02:42:58.680
sir. And then uh, Friday, we are gonna do a upf

2377
02:43:00.319 --> 02:43:03.120
I think it's time we check out
this Lethal Company. Yeah, yeah,

2378
02:43:03.239 --> 02:43:09.879
it's our Lethal Company. We'll also
have the final category of Giant Bomb's Game

2379
02:43:09.879 --> 02:43:16.319
of the Year twenty twenty three.
That's right, music bonus category. Yes,

2380
02:43:16.639 --> 02:43:18.079
we're gonna do the Music of the
Year. We're gonna make that a

2381
02:43:18.239 --> 02:43:22.000
segment on BCR so we can let
it breathe a little bit, give it

2382
02:43:22.079 --> 02:43:26.079
some extra time. Yes, yes, Also, Turbo Sean will be joining

2383
02:43:26.159 --> 02:43:31.239
us for that one. As if
you want to like suggest some songs hit

2384
02:43:31.719 --> 02:43:35.600
me, but hit Sean Turbo Shwan
on Twitter, make some recommendations to him.

2385
02:43:35.680 --> 02:43:39.760
Send some linkys over to Sean and
grubs way please, Yeah, timestamps

2386
02:43:39.799 --> 02:43:46.680
help. There will be a Jeff
Jeff's Bizarre Adventure. We recorded it yesterday.

2387
02:43:46.799 --> 02:43:52.079
That should be up tomorrow. And
then I believe the plan because we're

2388
02:43:52.120 --> 02:43:54.639
pretty close to the end of Cowboy
Bebop, so I think we're going to

2389
02:43:58.680 --> 02:44:03.000
I think what we're gonna do is
there's three episodes left until like the movie,

2390
02:44:03.760 --> 02:44:07.399
right, so apparently there's like a
good Cowboy BeBot movie that we should

2391
02:44:07.399 --> 02:44:09.600
all be watching as well, So
we're gonna do three. We're gonna do

2392
02:44:09.639 --> 02:44:15.319
the last three. Oh, and
then there's a two parter, so we

2393
02:44:15.520 --> 02:44:20.959
might play around with like how we
do that last two parter that finishes the

2394
02:44:20.079 --> 02:44:24.600
series. We might like record it
as we're actually watching it. Have you

2395
02:44:24.680 --> 02:44:33.879
watched me as Zaki movies like what
like what like Princess Monono? Yeah,

2396
02:44:33.000 --> 02:44:45.280
I've seen the Delivery Service, right, just magical the fish one uh of

2397
02:44:45.399 --> 02:44:54.159
the value, the first one the
fish and then one Yeah, dib loves

2398
02:44:54.200 --> 02:44:56.680
all that ship, so we we
blew through a lot of that during COVID.

2399
02:44:56.760 --> 02:44:58.959
Okay, then I'm assuming if it's
because of you haven't seen Princess Monda,

2400
02:45:00.040 --> 02:45:01.520
ok because he needs the wait a
little bit before. Oh yeah,

2401
02:45:01.680 --> 02:45:05.920
we we haven't seen like some of
that dark stuff, right, yeah,

2402
02:45:05.799 --> 02:45:11.280
Okay, I mean Princes Vinoki fucking
rips, but so spirited away, spired

2403
02:45:11.280 --> 02:45:15.040
away, so good. Yeah,
those they're they're they're phenomenal. But I

2404
02:45:15.120 --> 02:45:20.120
don't I don't know, uh like, so we're gonna go back to JoJo's

2405
02:45:20.159 --> 02:45:22.200
after this, of course, because
it's been like a very long time getting

2406
02:45:22.280 --> 02:45:26.120
through Cowboy Bebop. I just don't
know, like if like when we when

2407
02:45:26.159 --> 02:45:30.120
we finished season four, I guess
it is. I don't know where we'll

2408
02:45:30.159 --> 02:45:33.920
go from there, presumably back to
five. We'll see. But yeah,

2409
02:45:33.200 --> 02:45:37.840
that's uh, you know, eat
JoJo's while watching JoJo's. I'm sorry,

2410
02:45:37.920 --> 02:45:43.639
what is that eat JoJo's? What? What's Jojo? Those big fries is?

2411
02:45:43.680 --> 02:45:46.200
I don't Ohio thing? It might
be an Ohio thing, buddy,

2412
02:45:46.319 --> 02:45:50.719
Yeah, they're called potato wedges.
I think it's not an Ohio thing.

2413
02:45:50.000 --> 02:45:54.399
I know potato Ohio. Never seen
anything called Jojo? Yeah, I know

2414
02:45:54.479 --> 02:45:58.079
what potato wedges are. Yeah,
they're like real long potato wedges. They

2415
02:45:58.159 --> 02:46:01.959
call them Jojo Mike, you go
down on JoJo's now. They're kind of

2416
02:46:03.360 --> 02:46:07.440
great, like rather they were cut
smaller and they're like real French fries because

2417
02:46:07.479 --> 02:46:09.920
they get you know, sometimes agat
in the middle of the Joe. Joe's

2418
02:46:09.920 --> 02:46:11.840
like, oh, this part's not
cooked as much as it should be.

2419
02:46:11.040 --> 02:46:16.120
It's too big. Well, there
we go. Pape Tree's got JoJo's in

2420
02:46:16.159 --> 02:46:20.799
the Northwest. They know, fantastic
thing. I'm glad JoJo's could be a

2421
02:46:20.920 --> 02:46:24.280
thing. I had a friend that
tried making Joe a thing for me because

2422
02:46:24.319 --> 02:46:28.319
of my initials, and then we
stopped being friends. Wait wait real quick,

2423
02:46:28.360 --> 02:46:33.840
what a gas should sometimes have suggestion
suggestive names like come and go or

2424
02:46:33.920 --> 02:46:41.159
like in your head okay, and
jugs and loaf. Oh but I like

2425
02:46:41.280 --> 02:46:46.479
chicken loaf? Can we turn chicken
loaf? And I'm sorry, Jane,

2426
02:46:46.520 --> 02:46:50.239
you can get us out of here
now. Well, that's been another episode

2427
02:46:50.280 --> 02:46:54.479
of the Giant BombCast. I've had
a fantastic time talking to Jeff beck Lar,

2428
02:46:54.639 --> 02:47:00.159
Mike Manatti, Jef Grub and having
uh you folks at home. I'm

2429
02:47:00.239 --> 02:47:03.479
listening on the side there. You're
all looking lovely. Thank you once again

2430
02:47:03.520 --> 02:47:05.959
for coming to the live show.
If you're able to make it, we

2431
02:47:07.120 --> 02:47:11.440
assure you the archive will be coming
very very very soon. I've been janned.

2432
02:47:11.440 --> 02:47:13.719
He's been Jeff, he's been Jeff, he's been Mike. You have

2433
02:47:13.840 --> 02:47:18.360
been rocking that shirt that you've been
wearing. Mighty fine. We'll see you

2434
02:47:18.399 --> 02:47:26.040
next week for another episode of Giant
BombCast. Best movie Crawl Ever splashed?

2435
02:47:26.399 --> 02:47:31.399
No, oh yeah, yeah,
oh water World. Water World's the best

2436
02:47:31.520 --> 02:47:33.600
ninety nineties. But that's okay,
Yes, that too, Okay, all

2437
02:47:33.680 --> 02:47:35.280
right, all right, all right, Ben