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You are listening to Video Games to
the Max. Hello, and welcome to

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another edition of Video Games. So
I'm your host, Sean Garmery with me

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is usual, mister Morison and joining
us today, mister Endi Isbelle. How

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are you, Sarah. I'm doing
great. Thanks you for having me back.

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Yes, so it's good to have
you back. So we are going

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to talk about the whatever you want
to call that nothing burger big news not

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so big news from Xbox yesterday after
they had their podcasts and what they announced

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was actually happening, some other teases
that they made, and then some things

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that maybe if you're reading between the
lines, might be happening in the future.

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Also, Sony Maids all right,
Sony's head money guy, guy that's

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looking at things right now. Hiroki
to Toky made some interesting comments as well

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about they possibly doing some more with
PC and how aggressive they could be with

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that. We're also gonna be We've
been playing some games. I've been playing

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the New Bandishers goes to New Eden. Mark's been playing Persona thirty reload,

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try out that Pacific Drive demo.
We can see Solitaire two, some other

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things. Ran Newsman playing some games
as well, and some other news happening

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aside from those things, so we'll
get all into that and more. All

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right, let's get through this pretty
quickly. Here, do some housekeeping.

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joining us again. You can also
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on YouTube, and you can also
check out his new show Bad Brackets,

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which I've been on once already talking
video game controllers. I did link it

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on the description of the last episode, so and then you I forgot what's

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the most recent one is? Super
Bowl Moments is the most super Bowl ninety

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sitcoms coming out on Monday. Hey, there you go. See, I

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just watched this thing Natural Geographic they
to rewind the nineties on Hulu. They

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had like ten chapters. Again,
they talked a lot about ninety sitcoms.

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So I'm sure all y'all have your
favorites. There's a lot of yelling.

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There's a lot of yelling in that
episode. Good good, It's good to

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have ones where you have a lot
of yelling and funness there. So all

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right, maybe we're not gonna hopefully
not do as much yelling on this show

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here because we're about to get I
don't know, and maybe Mark will it

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will surprise me here to start yelling. I don't know. So let's get

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into this Xbox podcast. They did
drop it like a podcast. They didn't

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even do premiere. I thought they
were gonna do some kind of like,

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Okay, we're gonna show this like
it's live or whatever. Maybe it's not.

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They didn't even do that. They
just dropped it, and you're sitting

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there waiting for like five minutes after
three o'clock Eastern, like where is this

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thing? You know? And it
finally does appear. It was twenty two

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minutes. You can go. It's
pretty quick to find. At least they

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didn't overly stay there welcome and talk
forever. I guess let's just go over

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what they announced and then we can
discuss it. They announced that it's only

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four games that are coming to other
platforms Nintendo and PlayStation. They did not

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name them. On that show.
Phil said that they have deals with the

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partners have deals already in place.
There was rumors already about a possible Nintendo

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direct that was going to occur yesterday, and that leads a lot of speculation

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to they probably just wanted to give
Microsoft their platform to talk about this,

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and then Nintendo's gonna do something next
week, and then that's where you're gonna

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get the announcements of what seems to
be High Fi Rush pentiment see If Thieves

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and Grounded, because he mentions that
there's two community driven live service games,

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and then he mentions there's two smaller
games that were never meant to be these

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big franchises that sell your box or
whatever. That they didn't mean to be

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these big first party games, and
so they want them to have more life

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on other places. And then he
says for sure neither one of them are

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Indiana Jones and Starfield. But he
also later in a vergeon of youew does

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not shut the door on anything else
not coming to those systems either. He

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says that they they can't with the
way the industry is rightly say that nothing

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else is ever going to come to
their just right now. This is what

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we're doing. Basically, we're experimenting. What happens with those games will probably

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tell you what's going to happen later
on. And they also announced that there

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is new hardware coming once again.
They probably are going to put their foot

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in their mouth with Sarah Vaon saying
this is going to be the most technological

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leap you're ever going to see when
the console comes, they said, that's

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the last generation. This is not
the most I mean they can I don't

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know how this is the most powerful
system or whatever that's out there, but

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it's really not. So they've already
said this once, so I guess why

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not do it again. Try to
get your shareholders to get all excited about

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your nextbox and your people that are
that are Xbox only people as well.

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They did mention that you you don't
have to worry about your digital library and

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all of that stuff that's going to
continue happening. They kind of shut the

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door on the whole there's going to
be any more sports coming besides the ones

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that are already there, because it's
very hard on console licenses and all that

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stuff. They didn't talk about physical, but I mean we can get into

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that. And then also that they're
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this fall, so some kind of
mid gend thing. Maybe the leaked one

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that we saw was like a trash
can receptacle or some other one. I

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guess we'll see when that happens.
And they're gonna do the Summer showcase again

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in June, so I guess Mark, I'll come to you here. Do

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you feel any different than you did
the last week after we did the episode

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about what they said or didn't say
on that podcast. It's pretty funny.

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I think three of those games make
sense. Pentiment Hi Fi Russian Thieves Grounded

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is kind of a weird one because
who cares like they don't have like it's

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not popular like the A Thieves and
it hasn't been popular for years, so

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that's odd. And then trash Like, Well, the one thing that is

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going to make the new Xbox really
be the big powerhouses Connect three point zero

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and I finally bring that back and
do it right this time right. The

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one thing I forgot to mention is
they did mention day one game Pass will

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continue all of their games releasing game
Pass, even the activision of Lizzard ones

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and also Developed four is coming on
March twenty eight to game Pass, and

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they did announce that there's thirty four
million subscribers. Now, of course it

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looks like about nine million of those
are the people that they basically forced over

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from having xbus Live Gold into the
game Pass Core, which you know there

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is a little bit different from what
PS plus does. PS plus did the

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same thing, they forced everybody over, but you only get the monthly games

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and then online. At least,
game Pass gives you more games than the

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ones that you get from just PS
plus and you're paying the same price to

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ten dollars and it only costs a
dollar top grade to regular game Pass,

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where it's a PS plus top grade
to extra costs like five more dollars they

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were from four to five. But
of course you are getting a lot more

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games there, so it is what
it is. We'll have to see what

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happens if Sarah Bond has to wind
up coming out and saying that the people

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that are on that first tier game
pest don't get the Dobo four. But

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we'll see what happens there. But
Randy, any thought on like what was

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announced? Do you if you're an
Xbox only owner, do you feel better

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about this or are they just delaying
the interval or what do you think?

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Well, if I'm an Xbox only
owner. Do I feel better than I

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did six months ago? Or after
the internet overreacting after the exploded. This

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is the whole reason, if the
whole reason, they're having this right,

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because yeah, this is at the
beginning, they weren't planning to do this,

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and then they look very uncomfortable at
times talking about this. Also,

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yeah, they wanted it, well, they said they wanted They were planning

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on doing this, and they were
working on it since December or whatever,

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and then they had to change the
format a little bit because the Internet exploded

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over nothing. And that's what I
laughed so much about all of this.

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You and I talked about it before
I was able to watch it, and

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then I was able to watch it
last night and looked at some different reactions

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and stuff, and everyone's like,
well, that was nothing. Well what

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did you expect? It was never
supposed to be anything. It was just

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there, like late winter, early
spring update on stuff. Now that the

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activision Blizzard stuff is getting closer to
being completely wrapped up and everything is starting

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to fall into place, and that's
all they were going to do, and

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then the Internet exploded. They're like, oh my god, everything on Xbox

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is going to PlayStation and we're going
to lose our libraries and they're like no.

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It was like, so now everyone's
upset because nothing happened. Well,

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nothing was ever going to happen,
but the Internet just threw all these rumors

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out. So Xbox of course has
to respond and go, hey, just

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chill, everything's fine. We're testing
the waters with some stuff. Sony's testing

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the waters as we'll talk about later
with with more games going to PC and

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trying to different things. And yes, exclusivity is changing. It is the

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way of the world, unless you're
Nintendo because they continue to live in their

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own world. But I think companies
are understanding. You put it on your

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system first, and then after a
year or a little bit later, when

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it's all right, hey a sequel
is getting ready to come out, you

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put the old one on other consoles. You test the waters there, you

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try to get a bigger fan base
and go, hey, you like that.

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The second one will be on Xbox
Day won on game Pass or like

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we've said since game Pass originated,
Hey you could play. You could spend

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seventy bucks on Call of Duty,
or you can come to game Pass and

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play for free. You just on
your game pass subscription and it's all going

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to work out. So that's what
I loved about all of this. Everyone

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freaked out for a week and a
half over rumors that were absolutely absurd.

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Xbox came out and said, those
rumors are false. Here's what's really happening,

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and everyone's like, well, where's
the big news. Why'd you do

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this podcast? There was no big
reveals, there was no anything crazy.

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No, it was just calm down, everything will be just fine. It's

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the internet makes me laugh sometimes I
do see the whole There is still mixed

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messaging, right, there's still not
concrete. Nobody came out and said,

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hey, this is just a force. I mean, he did try to

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say that on the podcast, but
then he kind of he'll does this a

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lot where he'll say one thing and
then he'll go and talk on a something

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he thinks that a lot of people
are not going to see because it's not

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on video or not on some kind
of digital stream, and then he'll kind

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of say something else. And that's
kind of been the issue sometimes with Phil

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when he's it's great to hear him
say these things, right, It's great

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to hear somebody talk because this visit
is so closed off so much, but

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sometimes he talks like too much,
right, And why are you going to

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say on the podcast? No,
I don't want to mislead people and make

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them think that other things are coming. But then you go on the verges

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in and you say, oh,
but I can't really say that there's never

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going to be nothing else coming either. But that's those are two comments that

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do not contradict each other. Their
plan right now are these four games.

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That's their plan. Their plan right
now does not involve Starfield, it does

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not involve Indiana Jones. That statement
is his own thing. Now on the

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verge, he's saying, but I
can't say forever that also can be true

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in five years, could their game
plan be different? One? Yes,

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So it's not he's not going,
well, it's only these four. Absolutely,

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these four. He never said that
they're playing right now. I'm saying,

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and I agree with you, Randy, I'm saying, I think for

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the Xbox owner, that's what they
want to hear, right, The Xbox

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owner that doesn't want to have to
go anywhere, doesn't want to have to

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think about anything. They want all
their stuff to always be on this thing.

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And that's what they got mad about
right. They don't want the toys

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going over to somewhere else. You
didn't get that because let's I think there's

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some I don't think the reports were
totally wrong. I think what they did

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was Phil was around when the Xbox
One came out, and they know what

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happened with the Xbox One. We're
trying to go too far in the future

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and nobody wants that and they're not
ready for it yet. And everybody goes,

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oh, you know what, I'm
selling my Xbox right now, I

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don't want this. If you slowly
start putting games and every year you put

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maybe one, everybody starts getting used
to it and it starts not being that

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big a deal. So maybe Starfield, Anymania Jones were being considered at one

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point and somebody goes, ah,
wait a minute, Phil. Phil's like,

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wait, wait, let's not jump
the gun and put everything over there

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first. Let's do this, see
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right. Because I do think that
there's people in Microsoft. This whole thing

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about there being a battle between Xbox
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really is happening. I think there's
people saying, we want this right now.

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We want the money right now,
and they're going, wait a minute,

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hold on, we're almost there.
Let's okay, you can have it.

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We're not going to put everything over
there yet, because it is going

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to disrespect the people that buy the
box, right, It is going to

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disrespect people that are longtime console owners, as he says, right, So

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I don't think it does unless it's
day one, does disrespect anybody, right,

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But this is the point, right, even if you do Aniana Jones

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like three months later, that's still
kind of shitty. Like maybe a year

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later, all right, we can
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think if you're talking about people,
aren't I think people are not being so

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mad about the Sony thing right now
because nobody's definitively said we're gonna put this

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thing day and date. Right.
It's him saying, oh, we want

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to be more aggressive about PC.
But he's never saying, oh, well,

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we're going to go from a year
to this timeline. There's no timeline.

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He's just saying, at some point, we're probably going to do more

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with PC if you go and tell
everybody, oh, Aianna Jones just came

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out, but two months, three
months later, it's going to show up

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on PlayStation to get pissed. That's
how it used to be, right,

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Exclusivity deals used to only be three
months, didn't Tom Raider like when a

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year? But still there's been other
ones. There were a few months you

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get it here or whatever, or
how call of duty. Back in the

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day, you would have maps that
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Xbox. It's not a big deal. And yes, I'm coming as somebody

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who's more of a PlayStation guy,
and PlayStation is very not They're not Nintendo,

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but they're very tight knit about what
they release and they're barely sending stuff

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out to the PC years later.
But nobody should be upset or feel like,

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oh I I spent money on this
box and now I don't need this

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box. You have game Pass on
your Xbox. Game Pass is never going

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to come to PlayStation, so that
right, there is a reason to get

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your box or get it on your
computer whatever. That's their mo is to

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try to get everybody on game pass. Using these four games as a test

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is a perfect try of all.
Right, So, like Mark said,

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Grounded was not very popular on the
Xbox, Well, maybe the Switch community

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is going to really buy into it. And they're really going to get into

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it. Let's give that a shot. Maybe PlayStation gets into it, who

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knows. Obviously it did not work
out. I tried it. It was

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not for me. Whatever, But
so why not just it's far cheaper.

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Just throw it out there on another
console, give it another try and see

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how things go. See a thieves
as continue to grow as more content comes

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out. Hey, we'll give you
the test stuff here on PlayStation, but

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if you want the new content,
then you have to come to Xbox.

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Right, this stuff just revolves.
Anybody's out there going, oh my god,

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I can't believe so and so game
might end up on a different console.

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I'm screwed. Nobody bought an Xbox
expecting Indiana Jones to be this great

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system some seller. So if three
they are looking at it from that perspective,

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like somebody that they're looking at bringing
other people in. Indiana Jones does

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have some cashing of people that are
not gamers, right, yeah, I

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guess, but they're not Those people
that are not gaming don't care what they're

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playing it at. Those people are
also like forty and over, So well,

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yeah, that's true. That's that's
the problem with Ana Jones like,

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you know, let's say Blade is
not exclusive, which it seems like it's

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not from all because I think if
it was a suon they would have said

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something by now that Blade has a
stotter bigger chance because Marvel was more of

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in the sitegeist right now than uh
than say, uh, Indiana Jones.

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But you have a point, Randy. I don't have a problem with any

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of this stuff personally because I own
all the systems, but I get it

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from the perspective of the people that
all I own is an Xbox. I

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don't want to go buy FC.
I don't want to deal with the stuff

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that happens with the pat You don't
have to, you know. So here's

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the way for those that only own
an Xbox. If those games go to

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other systems, it doesn't mean they're
not coming to Xbox. You still get

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your games. They're not now.
It's different if my Xbox bought Activision and

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when we're going to come out with
an exclusive PlayStation Call of Duty game that

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will not come to our own system, then you can have a problem with

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it. But if you only own
an Xbox, who cares whether games go

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So what about the So I'm looking
at the perspective of right, if I

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own an Xbox right now, it
doesn't mean But when I'm looking at anybody

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that wants to come into the ecosystem, the shorter you make the window,

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the more ability somebody has to wait. And therefore, why do I need

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to buy an Xbox If all of
the games are going to eventually come to

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PlayStation in two three months or whatever, that's it. That is the selling

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place. The game Pass by itself
can't sell. I don't think game Pass

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myself can sell the call. That's
just me enough. And now they're trying

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to get the money for the games. Their games have not been at the

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same level as Nintendo and PlayStation,
and they understand that. That's why they

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went out and bought all these different
companies, and then they try to make

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them exclusive and then they went,
oh wait, it's not making our user

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base go up, so now let's
try to make money on of these games.

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So that's what I also don't understand
from gamers. All we talk about

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every time I come on the show
is layoffs. We're going to talk about

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more layoffs on this show. They
talked about it at the Dice Awards.

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Layoffs, layoffs, layoffs, so
now you want to hinder what a company

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can make on their game, which
maintains more layoffs allow these companies to make

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as much money as possible. And
I think that's what Phil Spencer and Microsoft

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are trying to do. All right, we've had them on Xbox. Let's

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try to continue their growth and their
revenue sharing and their revenue streaming so they

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can make another game and they don't
have to layoff a third of their company

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after their game comes out. None
of this is an issue to game I

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don't understand, Like, if you're
so worried about Xbox dying because of this,

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Phil Spencer said it. They're not
going to make a decision going I'm

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trying to kill my creation. This
is not VisiC Man bringing the nWo into

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the WWE or Vinsic Man doing other
stuff behind the scenes. Is none of

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this. They're trying to do the
best for their system. And the other

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thing I just want to bring up, and I want to get a Mark's

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point on this too, because he
and I collect games, So he and

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I are a different aspect or a
different group than a lot of people,

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those people that are worried that their
digital library is going to disappear and everyone

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was freaking out about this. Anybody
care about their Wei library? All those

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old Nintendo games they bought on their
Wei shop? Has anybody gone back and

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played any of those? Digital is
super simple to download and play and it's

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easy access, and then we forget
all about it. So if for whatever

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reason it ever did die, nobody's
gonna go back and play their Xbox three

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sixty ten years from now. Chill
people. I everone freaks out about stuff,

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You're never gonna play them again.
It's okay, Mark you are you?

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Are you by? I see you
buy retro games all the time.

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You're on here talking about the retro
game you just bought. Maybe you don't

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necessarily open the box every time and
play each one of those games. But

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what do you think about Let's they
didn't talk about physical games at all here,

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so they're saying, basically, maybe
we shouldn't expect that after Xbox series,

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your physical games will continue to work
going forward, but your digital library

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will. Does that concern you at
all? That? Uh? Yeah,

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somewhat, because they I don't know
if it's x I don't know if Xbox

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is really done at but like Steam
d list stuff or even delete stuff from

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libraries occasionally, right, so that
that's a worry. I'd much rather have

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a physical copy of the game,
like spec Ops the Line, for example,

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that just got delisted a few weeks
ago or a month ago or whatever,

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that it can always play then hoping
that you know, the store funnel

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be up or the download service will
be up. I mean, yeah,

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you have a point, and that
is always why physical gaming is is good

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in that respect that even if they
do something to make it to where you

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can't update the game anymore or you
can't play it while you're online, you

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could always put your system in offline
mode and be able to continue to use

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it that way. But I think
it is evident that Xbox is going fully

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digital. They already do a lot
of the first first party titles. The

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disc that's in the box is basically
a it's there for you to install the

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actual whole thing on the system,
and therefore it's really not doing anything.

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But they're really the first ones,
right, they they're already we've we've talked

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about that. There a lot of
stores are removing you know, there's European

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stores that are removing them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I mean

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this is more of a push towards
like everything. I mean, Nintendo's seems

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to be like the one that because
they have the cartridge and all of that,

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and they make the deals with Walmart
where you can buy the games ten

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bucks cheaper there and all that stuff, they seem to be kind of okay

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with continuing. The things is Nintendo
is continue trying to continue the status quo

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as long as possible. Right they
are. They are cool with exclusives.

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They do not want to put anything
on anybody else's box. They are living

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in their own world, and they
are benefiting from living in their own world

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because they're selling like hotcakes. And
they're fine. Right, we'll see what

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happens with the switch to But they're
also not spending as much on games as

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Xbox and Sony are, right,
and like you said, sustainability, this

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is what this whole thing felt like
to me. We are trying to continue

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to have Xbox exist for another twenty
years or whatever, and this is the

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way. Tony may not do it
right now, but they will get it

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eventually, and we're trying to open
that door. We're hoping that by doing

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this it shows the other companies that
you can't also do this and it doesn't

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hurt you and ye, why like
that's the big question, Like they want

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it to happen, I guess,
or you know, they want to be

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around for twenty years. But they
of the four consoles they've made, only

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one of them has been a success. Right stop or just admit defeat and

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to take come you know, the
third party developer and publisher that people want.

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But they he did at meet defeat. They're not trying to fight with

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Sony and Nintendo on that same uh
no, because this is him, right,

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this is him literally saying like we
want Xbox feed rund for twenty years.

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You just said twenty years or whatever. So it's like, okay,

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they say fuck it and put Halo
on PlayStation and shut it all down.

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The reason why they can't do that
is because we just saw what happened,

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right the two weeks of people going
nuts and the like. These people didn't

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evangelize the console en us they lost. Oh well, I don't know.

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I just so, I mean,
killing your entire fan base to go as

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a third party publisher doesn't If Microsoft
just said, okay, we're shopping the

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Xbox for putting Game Pass on PS
five and switch like, all right,

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fine, what if Okay, but
here's the thing. What if Sony and

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Nintendo say we don't care whether you
don't make Constant anymore, we don't want

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game pass on our at all.
They can still become a third party developer,

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publisher and sell their games to people
who actually want them fair enough,

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fair enough. I mean, that's
that's an interesting strategy. I just don't

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I can I understand what they're trying
to do. They're trying to they have

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the money to continue to do this. Number one, they can. They

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can continue to make consoles, uh, sell them at a loss or whatever

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the heck, keep the that fan
base happy, make it destill the entry

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point while they figure out everything else, right, Because it's not like Internet

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is gonna get any better for people
in five years or three years. Even

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it seems like the next console generation
is coming really quick in twenty twenty six,

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twenty twenty seven. The Internet's not
going to be better for people by

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then. So the cloud is still
not going to be the thing that they

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want it to be. So for
next gen, you have to have a

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console. I don't know about five
or ten years from now. If it's

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it's gonna be any better at that
point or not. They may never get

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to realize that whole cloud future.
We may never get to that point.

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Will everybody just have one PC that
you put games in and everybody just becomes

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a publisher except for Nintendo maybe,
Who knows, but I guess let's let's

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try to put the Sony thing in
here as well, so we kind of

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have a little bit more conversation on
that. Sony did wonderful sales wise.

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I'm not going to go through all
the numbers. You guys can read that

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if that's your thing. I don't
think we need to spend twenty minutes on

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that they sold well, The games
sold well. They have one hundred and

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twenty three million active users. PS
plus is apparently dropping very much like the

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game pass. Subs are dropping just
because you know, I think people are

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realizing that just subs in general was
just it's getting ridiculous for everything. Also,

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again, the whole PS plus premium
thing is is such a ripoff still.

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But that being said, they had
to lower the forecast of their PS

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five sobs from twenty five million to
twenty one to be fair. All the

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forecasters were saying that apparently twenty five
million was always way too much for them

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to broadcast, so they're kind of
having to come back to reality a little

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bit. Hell Divers, too,
is doing amazing. It has two hundred

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something thousands concurrence on Steam. My
whole timeline is sequel enjoying Hell Divers.

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It's forty bucks and they did a
great job with that. But it's also

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showing I think that the Heroki Tokey
is talking about, our games are costing

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too much to make. We need
to start being more mindful about how much

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we're spending and development when we make
these games, and we need to figure

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00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:22.480
out a way to continue to sell
more of our games, more of our

409
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.839
console. But our console selves may
start declining because we're in the latter half

410
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:30.119
of the generation. So therefore we
need to get more out of our games,

411
00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.440
and we may be going to more
aggressive towards p teacher. He doesn't

412
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.799
give a timeline. He doesn't say
I'm undoing what Herman Holst and Jim Ryan

413
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.200
said. He just says that that's
what I think we need to do.

414
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.400
I've been sitting here with all of
our teams. We have great teams.

415
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:51.079
We love our teams. They are
very motivated all that stuff, But then

416
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:53.160
he keeps talking about the money.
He's a money man at the end of

417
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:57.200
the day, Like he's that's what
he's focused on again, sustainability right of

418
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:03.960
the of the kind of of gaming
moving forward, Mark, we know what

419
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.480
your mind said. Oh it's a
one, two, three years later.

420
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:14.119
Whatever. What if the PC games
coming to PC gets the the it gets

421
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.279
smaller and smaller. What if we're
talking about not just the live service games,

422
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.680
but some of the single player games
come day and date or two or

423
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:27.440
three months later or whatever. Does
PlayStation fans need to start going crazy like

424
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.359
Xbox fans did all those years ago
when when they first announced that. No,

425
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:37.279
because it'show me like a two thousand
dollars computer to run any PS four

426
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.000
PS five game? All right?
Last, and also like, uh,

427
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:48.759
PC gamers aren't the same as console
gamers, And that's fine. Yeah,

428
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.559
And I think, uh, mister
Toky is realizing that right that PC gamers

429
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.599
are not the same as console game
Uh Randy, you're the PlayStation guy.

430
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:02.200
What do you Let's say that they
did announce that they're going day and date

431
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:04.440
with all of these games. Do
we all do? We all need everybody

432
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:08.960
needs to start selling their PS fives
tomorrow, and and uh, you know

433
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:14.000
because Marks one hundred percent right,
if I sold my PS five right now,

434
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:18.480
I could buy one component for the
computer that I would need to be

435
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.359
able to run these games and a
good thing. And that's fine, Like,

436
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.960
I'm not going to go against what
I was just saying about Xbox guys.

437
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.240
As a PlayStation guy, put the
games out there, right, I'm

438
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:36.160
with Mark. PC is a different
area than these consoles. The day and

439
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.319
date and Microsoft, Yeah, that's
it would feel a bit weird, but

440
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:41.680
maybe that's where the future goes.
But as far as PC stuff goes,

441
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:47.359
get it out there. I do
like that they do it in a more

442
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:52.559
of a staggered way because then you
possibly get somebody that that does have a

443
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.519
good PC and they play the game
on your PlayStation. And then six months

444
00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.599
later, a year later, after
all of the updates come out or whatever,

445
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:05.119
or people you want to play this
game again. Then all right,

446
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.720
now the PC versions out there.
Now we have all these accessibility options,

447
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:13.279
you can mess around with all your
your your PC optimization stuff, and then

448
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.720
all the DLCs in there and you
can do all this stuff, and then

449
00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.240
they buy it again. So I
mean, how I see that all the

450
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.920
time with with like five fataty seven. It is like, all right,

451
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:23.519
I can't wait for the PC port
to come out, so they play it

452
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:27.039
on the PlayStation and then they buy
it again on the PC. And they

453
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.119
do that with all of these games. So I think that is the more

454
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:37.279
optimized way. I mean, you
can shorten that time for sure. But

455
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.920
that's the other thing where once again
I've brought it up many times. We

456
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:45.519
talk about layoffs, and we talk
about issues in the industry. Everything got

457
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:49.599
too ballooned. Games take five to
six to seven to eight to nine to

458
00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.440
ten years now to make, and
that's if everything goes well. Things go

459
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.079
wrong and then everything gets backed up. Naughty Dog, everyone's going, when's

460
00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.559
their next game going to come out? What was supposed to be the online

461
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:04.319
game, and that's not happening now. So now who knows when the next

462
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:09.960
Naughty Dog game comes out? You
gotta love it, Thanks Sean for taking

463
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:15.799
us over the heat off of it. But now companies are trying to figure

464
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:20.680
out a way to make the money
that they're trying to make to keep the

465
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.079
people still employed. I forget the
guy's name. I've watched the end of

466
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:29.720
the Dice Awards. But one of
the people for Balders Skate three when they

467
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.440
won Game of the Year. I
thought he said it beautifully, like everyone

468
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:35.720
out there that's doing all these projections, your projections are wrong. You over

469
00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.559
project things, and then we can't
reach your projections, and then you cut

470
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.519
people. And he hates to see
it, and I thought his speech was

471
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.319
fantastic. And that's the issue is
they're projecting, like as you said,

472
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:50.440
PlayStation way over projected how many systems
they were going to sell, and now

473
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:54.759
they're cutting back. And luckily right
now they're trying to find different avenues to

474
00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:59.039
make up that money they projected.
Instead of going, well, we're cutting

475
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.160
forty percent of Tony, that's what
we need to do. Let them figure

476
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:07.480
out other ways to make money.
Cut down on on production cost. We

477
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:12.239
don't need these over the top,
crazy triple A games that take five,

478
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:15.719
six, seven years to make.
Like, go out and and give the

479
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:20.719
money to these guys that take the
smaller games that take two or three years

480
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.320
that it's not as as costly.
Go out and support those games. Show

481
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:28.079
these companies we're cool with that.
Like once every so often, you can

482
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.400
give us the last of us Part
two, but right, I want it

483
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.559
right. I want you to come
on to your part, Randy. I

484
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.079
think you make a good point in
that I think all of us that love

485
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:44.599
gaming maybe we don't care, right, but I do. I do see

486
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.840
the point of having the big movie
game, the big Santamna game. It

487
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:52.599
does draw people in, right,
But if you want those games to continue,

488
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:57.559
they need to make money somewhere.
I just want to I just want

489
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.719
to come on here one time where
we don't have to talk about like now.

490
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.280
I agree, I wish we didn't, but apparently and brace or CEO

491
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:09.119
has to go talk shit also,
so you know that we we have to

492
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:14.280
talk about it because this guy can't
just shut up and not say anything.

493
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.039
It doesn't I don't know how that
even helps your shareholders to tell them that

494
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.519
the people are basically who cares,
They're just numbers. We got to get

495
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.960
through it so we can make the
business better. Like yo, that you

496
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:29.599
don't you are apparently are are not
even human. You have no care about

497
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.760
any of these people that you just
laid off. You're just you are the

498
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.760
one that messed up. Actually you
should be the one resigning because you have

499
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.719
a hand and why did this damn
deal with the savadis didn't work? So

500
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:45.440
why didn't you cut your your pay
and and and you know, resign yourself

501
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:47.800
instead of, oh, yeah,
we are cutting a bunch of people and

502
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.800
who cares? We have to do
it because it makes our business better,

503
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.079
yo, Like, man, at
least have some grace when you when you

504
00:35:54.119 --> 00:36:00.360
say something like at least Phil tried
to have grace yesterday and he said it.

505
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.800
It still sounds terrible and obviously doesn't
help the Sarah bond, but it's

506
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.519
basically like ro row Xbox right after
that, so that made it worse.

507
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:15.440
But he tried to be graceful about
whatever whatever. The the embrace the CEO

508
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:20.119
just did was actually horrible, you
know. So going beyond that, let's

509
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:25.519
avoid more of these things by allowing
and understanding that conto gaming is changing and

510
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:32.079
that it's okay if something goes to
PC, it's okay. If Xbox has

511
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:37.360
seen the window and they're not gonna
grow anymore and they got to figure out

512
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:44.159
some other way to grow. And
Robert is always gonna be on the conquerors

513
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:46.280
train. I don't know about that. Uh, if they haven't done Banjo

514
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:52.239
Gazoui yet I'm pretty sure we're still
not gonna get conquered at this point.

515
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:54.679
We might get blinks to time sweeper, like Mark always says, before we

516
00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:01.679
get conquered. So you know that's
the thing, is h I think we

517
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:06.480
just need to adapt as gamers.
We need to understand that even though I'm

518
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.679
not going to have the money for
the PC, if we allow these people

519
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:13.400
to have the game enjoy it.
Look at what hell Divers two is doing

520
00:37:13.480 --> 00:37:17.480
right now, Like, that's just
making hell Divers two more popular, that's

521
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:22.760
just making people talk about your game. If you're Sony right, Like it's

522
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:28.880
a franchise that was hardly known,
you released it day and day and on

523
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:35.119
PC people are eating it up,
getting a squad together, paying forty bucks

524
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:39.760
each time on Steam to play it
or or on PS five whatever, and

525
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:44.679
they're enjoying the game. And that's
at the end of the day. Isn't

526
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.599
that what you want? Like you
know, I get it if it ends

527
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.519
up like hurting the dev time and
and whatever, and like you know,

528
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:57.760
I've heard scor Enix talk about this
and other folks are saying that when we

529
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.840
have to do the game for PS
five and then try to make it the

530
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.239
best on PS five A lot of
times, that's why you get those bad

531
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.320
PC ports or whatever, because they're
focusing more on the one system than they

532
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:13.679
are on the PC. Right.
Uh, maybe that does show why you

533
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.519
don't need to do everything day and
date. But some things it isn't bad.

534
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:22.599
Right. But also I guess something
to discuss is they talked about no

535
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:29.760
major franchises coming out this year until
probably like after March twenty twenty five,

536
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:34.119
So like no God of War,
no Horizon, no One Charged, and

537
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.159
no nothing like that. Jeff Grubb
does mention they mean we're gonna get an

538
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:42.519
Astro game. Please don't make it
in VR only. Please let other people

539
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:45.800
are not in VR enjoy this game. We loved Astor's playroom. I think

540
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:50.440
everybody that loved that game wants to
see a bigger version of what that is

541
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.760
without VR and some other ones.
You know, we know the Concord games

542
00:38:54.800 --> 00:39:00.920
coming and a few other things.
Mark, is it a big deal that

543
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:06.039
we're not having another Spider Man,
another Horizon and all that. No,

544
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:10.079
because as a Sony guys said,
you know five is already is already over

545
00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:15.119
with, so kine of the times. No, it's it's fine, like

546
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:19.639
you don't need every year, doesn't
need to be some blockbuster thing. It'd

547
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:23.440
be nice, but I mean Sony
is gonna have fanal Fantys seven rebirth.

548
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:28.679
That's all they need. That's that's
the big game, right and it's also

549
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.400
coming in weeks. Yeah, but
you know it's the only time so that

550
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:37.760
it will be on or because the
seam or the epic version will be at

551
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:43.239
least a year probably probably. Yeah, So they're good. And it's not

552
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.639
like Marcousoft is gonna blow out of
the water this year either, so no,

553
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:49.960
probably not. And Nintendo this is
like it's gonna be a quiet year

554
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.920
for them too, So perfect for
Sony because Nintendo's going to announce there what's

555
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:59.639
two and then that's it feels like
that's gonna be it because like after March

556
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.280
there's like nothing and they're not rushing
to go do that. Nintendo director is

557
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.519
supposed to be a partner director.
It's not even like Nintendo's going to announce

558
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:10.800
five other big amazing games that are
coming like they're it seems like they're really

559
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.800
trying to be quiet so that whenever
they announced the switch to they can just

560
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:17.800
give you all the games that are
going to be on that thing and not

561
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:22.199
have people waiting for the for what's
still coming to the switch one. Randy,

562
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:24.920
you're the sony guy. I mean, does it bother you that we're

563
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.880
not going to have some big blockbuster
to look forward to aside from Rebirth?

564
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:34.079
I mean, of course you want
what you like games Like I'm still surprised

565
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:37.719
a little bit that Ghost of Shushima
two has not even been announced. Curious

566
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.239
where that is at. But do
I need them know, Coach, Like

567
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.360
we talked about it last year,
I don't have time to play a lot

568
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:47.960
of games. I still have games
from last year. I'm trying to work

569
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:52.920
myself through. So it's fine.
I'm with Mark. Not every year it

570
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:57.519
has to be an over the top
year. Last year was insane with the

571
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.880
top level of quality of games that
we've got all across all of the consoles.

572
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.719
So if we have a slower year, which by the way, anyone's

573
00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:07.360
like, oh it's a slow year, look at what these first three months

574
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:10.840
have for us, just because we
don't know what's coming out after April.

575
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:16.119
Everyone is is no longer doing the
Hey this is coming out in nine months.

576
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:20.320
They're doing a lot more of the
Hey in two months this comes out,

577
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:24.840
get excited now, and they're doing
the Nintendo approach. Like you say

578
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:29.599
Nintendo has a quiet fall, it's
because we haven't hit the Summer Direct yet,

579
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.719
so we don't know what they're doing. Once we hit the Summer Direct,

580
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:35.480
then we'll know what Nintendo's going to
do in the fall. So just

581
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:39.400
because right now, like the big
titles haven't been announced and it doesn't look

582
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:43.880
like Sony's going to have their own
first party stuff, We're still going to

583
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:45.480
have stuff to play in the fall. We're going to have stuff play in

584
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:50.360
the summer. And even if they're
really it's if I'm wrong and we have

585
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.639
nothing to play in those There's eight
games that have come out in the last

586
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.920
two months already of this year that
have already hit my backlog that I would

587
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:00.440
love to go back and act should
play at some point. So I'm not

588
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.599
a quieter year. I mean and
Rebird somebody are gonna take like a whole

589
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:10.280
month from so like you know that
that game is gonna be huge. Uh,

590
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:14.079
you know, we we've talked about
some of the huge games that everybody

591
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:17.440
come out here on the past few
weeks. Uh, there's Dragon's Dagma's two

592
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:21.760
is gonna be huge. There's other
games that are gonna be taking up your

593
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:24.760
time, uh in those months,
So I think, you know, there,

594
00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:30.000
it's not it's not the deluge of
games that was last year, but

595
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:31.639
that's probably better. And also I
think we got to think about, like

596
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:36.159
a lot of those games that came
out last year were delayed from years before

597
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.440
because of COVID, Right, so
at some point we're gonna hit that time

598
00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:45.960
where there's not this cavalcade games and
we're gonna have a bigger waiting time.

599
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.119
And that's okay too. You know, people are starting to kind of have

600
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.440
this like you have the Spring is
the new Fall, where you have a

601
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.800
lot of games released during that time
period, then you kind of have,

602
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:58.880
Okay, the summer, we're expecting
a lot of people go outside and do

603
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:00.880
things, and then we're gonna go
back and rape up for the fall again.

604
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:05.239
Like it's that kind of that's kind
of normal. And I think I

605
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:07.800
think for Sony got a little messed
up with the Last of Us multiplayer game

606
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.559
getting canceled too. I think that
was supposed to be their big fall game,

607
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.599
and and credit to Sony, they
didn't take another company and go,

608
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:19.719
now you have to crunch because we
need a game in October November. So

609
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.400
I mean, to be fair,
they also could have like waited to release

610
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.119
that Last of Plus Part two remaster
like later. They didn't have to do

611
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:29.400
it in January. I mean,
it's not like season two of The Last

612
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.480
of Us is coming out tomorrow or
whatever. Like that's on them as well.

613
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:37.559
They could have waited, you know, but that that's they They know

614
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:42.800
what they have. They know that, like they have other franchises out there.

615
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:45.679
I think Nintendo also has that thing. They just had all their big

616
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:49.519
games release, Like what else is
there? I think at this point,

617
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.400
Metro Prime four is going to be
the big launch game aside maybe a three

618
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:58.480
D Mario that's been cooking there.
But like Metro Prime four has been so

619
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.760
we do haven't heard a word of
it for so long that at this point,

620
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.280
do we really needed to be like
the last big Hurrah to switch one?

621
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:08.519
Not really, you know, we
just had that with Zelda and Mario

622
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:13.519
Wonder and all that stuff. So
Nintendo is good. They're fine, you

623
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:17.639
know, they're they're doing their thing. Yeah, So I think that's the

624
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.039
takeaway. Ah, yes, Robert, it'd be cool if we did get

625
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.840
a new Mario Galaxy. Still don't
know why we don't have Mario Galaxy two.

626
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.159
I'll switch. That's still just is
weird to me that that that game

627
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:36.599
did not come. But that being
said, let's move to uh talking about

628
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:39.280
we were talking about our games that
we're playing. Let's talk about those games

629
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:46.480
here, Mark, you've been playing
a Persona three reload finally, or yeah,

630
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:51.679
I've been. I think I'm in
August. Okay, you're you're pretty

631
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.320
far. Yeah, well yeah,
I just meet like the fourth balls maybe

632
00:44:54.559 --> 00:45:00.000
fourth or fifth Yeah, uh yeah, the teams, it's somewhat antiquated,

633
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:06.000
but it's still fun. Like the
social interaction stuff is like different from Persona

634
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:09.159
five, and you can see like, oh right, this kind of sucks,

635
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:15.320
but I can see why you kept
improving it. I mean, but

636
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.039
like, why what don't you what
do you feel like it's missing from Persona

637
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.840
five that it's like coming out afterwards. I think that a lot of the

638
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:29.559
characters in Persona three kind of lame, like the the Gourmet King, it's

639
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:36.400
like fat food obsessed dude, and
like you don't like in Persona of five,

640
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:40.039
like you pretty much immediately have a
group of friends and you know you're

641
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:44.440
hanging out with them constantly. This
game doesn't have that at all. It's

642
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.079
it's kind of funny, like the
group barely seems to like each other,

643
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:53.679
which is funny. Like the gameplay
is like the battlesystem is so good,

644
00:45:54.519 --> 00:46:00.400
but yeah, like the first boss
having a timer on it, which you

645
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.280
you wiped on a two times.
I did it because I kind of knew

646
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:06.840
it was going on, or I
knew it was going to be annoying,

647
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.840
sort of went at it, or
like the Tartarists being all the same.

648
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.280
All right, I get it,
but having an environment the same environment for

649
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:20.599
fifteen levels is kind of boring.
Also, like there's not a ton of

650
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:27.239
places to build different stats or like
ways to build different stats, so I'm

651
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.280
kind of having to follow like one
hundred percent guide, even though I've kind

652
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.800
of screwed it up occasion, like
occasionally just because I don't want to miss

653
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.199
anything. Yeah, that's kind of
what I've been doing too. I've been

654
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.639
just using a guide. And the
guide I'm using is funny because it's like,

655
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:45.960
oh, go to Tartarus and grind
it out to get forty thousand yen.

656
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.800
It's like I ran. I ran
to that place twice, and I

657
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.760
barely got twenty thousand. Like,
well, it's like you have to sort

658
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.760
of manage the what you get into
Tartaris, and then when you sell all

659
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.679
the items, you have to like
get the equivalent of whatever it tells you.

660
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.199
And I barely did it the first
time. Like when I went through,

661
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:08.119
I got to the point where I
had no health items or anything left,

662
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:12.119
and then I was able to get
to the level twenty two or whatever

663
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:15.519
that it gets you to and then
oh it ends. Okay. So then

664
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:19.800
when I sold everything, I barely
had the forty thousand yen that it tells

665
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.119
you to have, and I'm like, okay, I guess I made it

666
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.880
through that one. And then it
tells the next one is like, oh,

667
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:30.400
you got to get to floor ninety
something and have one hundred thousand,

668
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:35.320
Yeah, one hundred thousand yen,
And I'm like, we'll probably probably in

669
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.320
the same power. Yeah exactly,
we're going the same guy. Yeah.

670
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:40.519
So, I mean, there's really
not that many out there, and they're

671
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:45.599
also kind of like it's so we
it. It is interesting because they added

672
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:50.519
that new feature for this one where
if you press I mean, I'm playing

673
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:54.320
on game Pass, so like if
you press the the select button or whatever,

674
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:59.239
you can see what people did during
that day. They kind of give

675
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:01.440
you a hint of like, I
mean they had that five also, but

676
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:07.000
yeah, but that wasn't in the
original Persona Or do you feel like it's

677
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:14.320
missing something for not having the female
protagonist or no, I think all these

678
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.800
people, you know, it was
maybe like deal c late down the road,

679
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:20.920
but they did work a lot of
that game for to happen. I

680
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.760
feel like it's definitely gonna be It's
just like Persona four Golden. They're waiting

681
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:29.400
to resell you this game again.
They're they're gonna put it in like like

682
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:31.360
that battle. We have a Persona
five World, should it count as a

683
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:36.559
new game for Game of the Year
or whatever. We're gonna be probably doing

684
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:42.840
this again for Persona three whatever they
call it. And to your point,

685
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:45.039
Robert, I also felt the same
thing with Power World. I'm not huge

686
00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:49.079
in survival games. I did like
it for a while, but then it

687
00:48:49.119 --> 00:48:51.880
did get to the point where I
was like, Okay, this is just

688
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.000
kind of like we're playing with the
Pokemon, but we're doing survival stuff,

689
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:59.599
and it'd be cool if maybe Pokemons
try something like that, but it kind

690
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:02.119
of I got over it after a
while. And it is interesting that while

691
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:06.639
people are waiting for new content,
they have dropped the like two thirds of

692
00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:10.519
their their players right now. So
also, I think hell Divers coming out

693
00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:15.360
and really being in the Zecast as
well as kind of health with that too.

694
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:21.679
But yeah, anything else you want
to say about Persona, I still

695
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:23.440
like it. I don't. I
guess there's a good character. I just

696
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:29.079
unlocked her pretty much, so I'm
looking forward to it. But yeah,

697
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.199
following this guy is just kind of
annoying in spots. I agree with you

698
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:38.760
there anything else you've been I've had
a few demos team demos. I tried

699
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:44.719
that Pacific Drive demo, which was
weird. I didn't like my Pace four

700
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:49.519
controller and the game does kind of
a bad job of towny like what it

701
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.320
has. It has like objectives,
but it doesn't tell you like how to

702
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:58.199
do them correctly. Maybe that was
just a demo problem, right, And

703
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.800
I don't think you'll like it because
it is a rival game. Yeah,

704
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:05.039
Like that's my issue with it is. I watched that they released like a

705
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.559
ten minute gameplay trailer with the devs
talking about it. And it felt like

706
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:14.039
they were in menus a ton way
more than playing the game, because it's

707
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:17.639
a lot of fixing your car after
you go out there, and if oh

708
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:22.559
yeah, you get stuck out there, then you'll lose your parts and whatever

709
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.760
that you did, and it's like, man, yeah, like you said,

710
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:29.400
it really does feel like it's more
of a survival game with rogue black

711
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:31.800
stuff than it is about the things. I mean, that's what I kind

712
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:36.000
of expected, Like it seemed like, you know, but I think people

713
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:38.920
are gonna it's gonna be like a
wee happy few situation where people are expecting

714
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:45.679
one thing and it's not quite that
and unhappiness will follow. This has kind

715
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:50.400
of been a big uh things.
Sony's been promoting a lot on the state

716
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.719
of plays. Randy, do you
have any interest in specific drive at all?

717
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:58.880
I don't think I remember ever seeing
it, so not sure. Yeah,

718
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:05.760
that's the station Wagon game, station
Wagon and sci Fi areas or you

719
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:12.280
know, yeah Apocalypse that one.
No, not really no, yeah I

720
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:19.199
remember now just from this one image
that box up anything else. I also

721
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:24.679
tried the Star Trucker game or the
demo that was cool. Yeah, uh

722
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:29.400
yeah, like yeah, you're driving
you know, a truck in space and

723
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.559
it looks like a damn truck,
which is hilarious. There's just like big

724
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:38.079
rockets attached to it. But good
music, uh, you know, good

725
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:43.239
atmosphere. It's a lot more involved
than you would think, because like you

726
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:45.679
don't just have to worry about fuel. You have like system you have to

727
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:50.000
worry about like, oh, you
have a power system and it controls a

728
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.920
bunch of stuff and you can you
know, it's like almost like the Jurassic

729
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:58.519
Park fuse box or you know,
they have to reach out the system with

730
00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:02.119
that thing. But yeah, I'll
play that when it comes out. Fully,

731
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:07.320
it was interesting. Well, and
I know you've been having fun reading

732
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.000
Sey Solitaire too, because I know
reading Sea Solitaire was one of your Yeah,

733
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:14.599
I got the full I got the
full version for beta testing, so

734
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:20.039
yeah, that's a lot of fun. Anything different from the first game that

735
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:24.639
no, okay, different a different
story and it's slightly different like new abilities

736
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:29.880
kind of, but it's pretty much
what I would expect, but same,

737
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:32.800
you know, good good story,
good solitaire action, that's what you want.

738
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:37.400
I've been I got Adventures Goes to
a New Meat in for review.

739
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:44.519
My first like actual proper review for
this year, it's been by Focus Entertainment

740
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:49.400
and Don't Nod, so it's those
folks, you know, life is strange

741
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:53.480
all that. It definitely has a
story. It definitely has a story it

742
00:52:53.519 --> 00:53:00.280
wants to tell. It's set in
like the sixteen eighties, so like you

743
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:07.800
know, basically fifty years before or
after America colonized over here, and basically

744
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:13.880
it's a story of there's ghosts and
you got to figure out why they're there,

745
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:17.320
and you're the banish or you're the
one that this this town's been beset

746
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:21.800
by this thing and you're trying to
figure out why this happened, and then

747
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.639
you go and try to deal with
the ghosts that are there, and there's

748
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:29.639
a lot there's a lot of story
decisions you got to make, as in

749
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:35.320
usual Don't Nod games, so there's
a lot of dialogue. The the graphics

750
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:39.199
are really great in this game for
being a double A title. It's just

751
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:45.599
the combat doesn't seem like it's you
know, the combat feels like it's just

752
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:47.320
kind of there. I don't know, if maybe I play it on something

753
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:52.400
that's not normal difficulty, it gets
harder, but it definitely feels like the

754
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:59.360
skulls or whatever that you're fighting or
kind of just there to give you combat.

755
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:05.880
But I like exploring that old setting, the old time setting. The

756
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:09.440
all the characters that you meet are
kind of interesting to talk to, and

757
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:15.480
and that story around it is very
interesting. So I'm gonna keep tracking along.

758
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:17.960
I'm probably like four hours in and
see how it goes. But it

759
00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:22.079
kind of reminds me a little bit
of a Plaguetail, just you know,

760
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.639
you have more you're actually controlling the
characters than I think too. And also

761
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:30.599
you have the like interesting dynamics of
the this is a not only a woman,

762
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:35.400
but a black woman in those times, and you do get some of

763
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:38.440
those interactions of hey, you're not
supposed to be here, you're the servant.

764
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:40.880
What are you doing? Like you
know, and they actually have a

765
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:45.480
warning for that as well at the
beginning of the game that like, hey,

766
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:50.159
be aware they're going to talk about
subjects that for that time were not

767
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:54.519
great. But I do like that
they they do go there. They give

768
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:59.079
you that sense of that time,
that feeling of the time of Okay,

769
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:00.960
they did have to deal with this
kind of thing, but they're actually here

770
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:05.000
to help. So you got to
deal with the whole. I'm actually trying

771
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.199
to help you here. Why are
you you know, talking to me this

772
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:12.000
week? But yeah, it's out
for Xbox PS five PC, so if

773
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:16.000
anybody wants to try it, I
think it's actually pretty good. It is

774
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:22.400
full price, so you know,
be aware of that. Robert mentions that

775
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:30.519
Skull and Bones is not a good
game. Scott is also watching, he's

776
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.360
in playing, he's actually reviewing the
game. So I feel bad for him

777
00:55:32.599 --> 00:55:37.199
what he has to has to deal
with playing this game because everybody I see

778
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:39.960
online, Uh, that game came
out today, it had the open bay

779
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:45.639
of last week. The words I
see online or this game is boring and

780
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:51.480
that's not good. When when we
just talked about last week, how eg

781
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:55.719
mot came out and defended why that
game is seventy dollars because it's a quadruple

782
00:55:55.800 --> 00:56:00.360
a game. But then the things
that you see on this game for you,

783
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:07.119
remember says it's certainly an experience,
but it ain't a seventy dollars experience.

784
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:14.519
Remember remember five years ago when they
announced they were going to make a

785
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:21.000
TV show based on it. They
did, Yeah twenty nineteen, a female

786
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:27.119
driven TV show like Zones. Yeah, Oh my god, that's still coming

787
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:32.239
right. I'm pretty sure that probably
got canceled quietly, Randy, have you

788
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:37.880
been playing anything a lot of small
stuff? Been playing that Turn Up Boy

789
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:42.559
Robs a Bank or whatever it was
on on game Pass. I'm getting near

790
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.159
the end of it. It's a
very short game. Just rob a bank,

791
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:49.039
over and over, do a bunch
of silly quests. It's it's silly

792
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:52.280
fun. I'm having a lot of
fun with that game. Did that Silent

793
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:57.079
Hill? The answer the message or
yeah? The short message I think is

794
00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.360
what it's called. It's fine,
it's it's okay, it's free, which

795
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:06.920
it's there. I know a lot
of people try to compare it with PT.

796
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:12.840
There are some PT aspects to it. The apartment building that you go

797
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:15.960
through is is littered with stuff.
Some of the dialogue is a bit weird,

798
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:21.719
but it's a nice little reminder of
what Silent Hill is all about,

799
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:25.800
the psychological horror aspect of Silent Hill. And I think this is better than

800
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:31.400
the weird twitch streaming TV show thing
that they attempted to do. So hopefully

801
00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:35.519
things are finally going in the right
direction. But again, it's free if

802
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:37.800
you want to try. It's like
two hours it's not the greatest thing in

803
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:43.760
the world, but it's definitely no
pt I'll say that right now. But

804
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:45.599
it's all right. It was fine. I've been playing a lot of fop

805
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:52.719
ivey seven remake getting ready for Rebirth. I'm probably three quarters of the way

806
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:55.719
through it and getting close to the
end of it. I still love that

807
00:57:55.760 --> 00:58:00.119
game. It's it's so much fun, And especially now that I played the

808
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:05.199
demo for the or part of the
first chapter of Rebirth, I've hit sections

809
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:09.000
in remake that like just already the
connections that they're they're making that I had

810
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:15.079
forgotten about. It's fantastic. There's
a scene that straight in both of them

811
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:19.239
that I literally hit on the same
day when I played the demo and then

812
00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:22.119
was playing through remake. So that's
been a lot of fun. So yeah,

813
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:28.199
just mostly a lot of small stuff
and just preparing myself for what Rebirth

814
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.320
is about to be. Yes,
I also bet that ever we had seventy

815
00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:37.360
dollars, have you noticed anything like
different now that you're like going back and

816
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:42.239
playing it after the you know,
you're not. It's not like when it

817
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:45.440
came out and we're all excited and
whatever. Like I really going through those

818
00:58:45.480 --> 00:58:50.079
middle chapters. I forgot how much
of a kind of a slog. It

819
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.679
feels like it feels like those take
forever. Yes, compared to the beginning

820
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:57.320
of the game. That feels like
it's going on a speedy pace or whatever.

821
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:04.199
I'm hoping Birth goes away from it. But I do feel like they

822
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:07.320
were worried about it being too short
of a game, so they were adding

823
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.880
a bunch of stuff. Actually,
I just got through the Trade the Graveyard.

824
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:16.119
I loved that segment playing through it
again, but there are other segments

825
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:20.320
in it. I'm just about to
hit the second time you go through the

826
00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:22.440
sewers, and I'm worried about it
because I hated that segment when you go

827
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:29.679
through that rat or whatever it is, I'm just about it to hit that

828
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:34.599
segment. The side quests are just
as dumb as as remember them. But

829
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:38.360
yes, I have there were definitely
parts where it's like it's so great and

830
00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:43.679
then it kind of slows down a
bit too much. And again, they

831
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:46.639
were trying to turn an eight hour
part of the original File Fantasy game and

832
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:51.119
turn it into forty or fifty hours. This would have it would have been

833
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:53.760
perfect at like thirty, Like if
they just would have tightened it up,

834
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:58.000
and that's what I'm hoping for with
Rebirth is they've tightened up a lot of

835
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:02.559
that stuff, added in some open
wor world aspects to add it into the

836
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:06.840
game time. But I'm sure that
this is going to be a long game

837
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:09.840
for how much that they're going to
hit in there, So I feel like

838
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:15.760
they don't have to stretch things out
as much as they needed to for the

839
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:20.800
mid guard section because they're hitting so
much stuff. But just playing that demo

840
01:00:20.960 --> 01:00:25.599
and the Memory of Nibelheim was two
hours and we didn't even hit all of

841
01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:30.760
it in that demo makes me wonder
just how much else is going to get

842
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:34.320
stretched out. And I'm excited for
it, but there's there could be some

843
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:37.320
some low moments in this. I'm
not worried about that so much because they

844
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:42.440
showed like a gazillion minigame series,
like there's going to be so much stuff

845
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.519
to take up your time in that
game. Besides uh, the fact that

846
01:00:45.559 --> 01:00:51.400
they brought because they could have left
Fort Condor in that intermission DLC and said,

847
01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:52.679
well, if you want to play
that again, it's it's you got

848
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:58.039
to play that. Like the fact
that they took a step and actually made

849
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.960
it to where you're apparently geting control
the characters, and they have that like

850
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:07.679
goofy little design in there and everything, Like they really went far with making

851
01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:10.119
sure that you're gonna have all of
these these mini games and things to do.

852
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:15.199
So and then they added the like
relationship stuff that wasn't in the original

853
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:21.199
and yeah, and the damn piano. Yeah, people are already starting to

854
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.039
figure that thing out. I cannot
wait for six months. You'll play like

855
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:25.920
actual songs on that thing. It's
just crazy. Yeah, I think it

856
01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:30.559
is. It ends and it's just
thrown in there. Yeah, I can't

857
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:35.559
wait for that game. And these
two weeks cannot go by quick enough.

858
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:37.320
I'll tell you right now. I
am not playing the second demo. Yeah,

859
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:42.360
that's coming out next week for people. The twenty first. I've played

860
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.239
enough. I'm ready for the twenty
ninth. Let's go. Like the only

861
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.719
reason I played the first demo was
because you could save your progress, and

862
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.880
after I played it, I go, I'm replaying this part anyway. Yeah,

863
01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:54.480
exactly, So I don't Yeah,
because you'll have that continuation of what

864
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:59.599
happens when it ends right there,
So I'm ready. Plus they'll improve the

865
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:04.280
Performance this mood because I played Inequality
Mode just because I wanted to see what

866
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.800
it looked like on the TV.
But when I went back and played Remake

867
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:12.800
and Performance when I was I turned
it on and I was like, oh,

868
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:15.800
okay, I can see the blurry
stuff that they're talking about and everything.

869
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:19.440
Hopefully it does get improved and it
doesn't affect the actual game, because

870
01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:23.559
that's what sucked about sixteen. It
got marred by the technical issues at first

871
01:02:24.639 --> 01:02:29.719
at the beginning. Hopefully there's not
the technical issues with this game for sure

872
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:35.800
with all the time that they've had
on it. So moving back into talking

873
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:39.960
about news here for a little bit, pretty much everything else that has to

874
01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:45.320
do with news this week outside of
the Xbox stuff, which it feels like

875
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:55.000
everybody was basically just waiting for that
this week is layoffs and companies canceling games,

876
01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:06.320
and ununfortunate passing away of Yoshitaka Riyama
due to ONUS complications. Of course,

877
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:09.679
this is the person that created the
psunconym series back in the nineties.

878
01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:16.800
He's been helping Rabbit and Bear Studios
with the Iuden Chronicles one hundred Heroes that

879
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:22.800
comes out in April and he's been
you know, big on that as well,

880
01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:27.159
and then like the fact that he
he passed and then he also like

881
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:32.000
passed before the game even came out. It sucks like he's the scenario rider

882
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:38.800
for this game and man, like
the legacy of these behind it sucks seeing

883
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:42.360
this it's pass away like that.
I mean, it's a shame, but

884
01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:45.239
it would have been nice if you
could see hopefully Iden chronicles actually you know

885
01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:52.559
good and Sweakiden was always good but
never got the popularity or the preskige.

886
01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:57.599
Yeah, let's hope between this game
and then the remasters or remakes whatever that

887
01:03:57.719 --> 01:04:04.239
are coming from remasters, Aconomy themselves
put a memorial something for him, but

888
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:10.360
they won't. Yeah, I would
hope they they do, but ye I

889
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:15.920
can see where they They also don't
like if you if you leave the company,

890
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:18.719
you don't no longer exist to us. It's like a ka, yeah,

891
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:24.280
I still want to know what happened
between them like that where it's like,

892
01:04:24.360 --> 01:04:28.920
damn, we can't even acknowledge that
he really like did work on those

893
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:32.840
games and we sat here and made
a collection and everything for it, and

894
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:41.480
we're making another collection like it's just
yeah, but sadly moving on from that

895
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:46.760
to ben Ny Namgo. Due to
not having an Elden Ring like game that

896
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:55.159
propped up their entire sales for an
entire year, saw a huge drop and

897
01:04:55.280 --> 01:05:00.199
income from the last year. Who
would have thought ninety six point five percent

898
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:06.039
drop in income and eight point nine
percent drop in net sales their dragon Ball

899
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:10.639
in one piece games. Yes,
good here that one Piece in dragon Ball

900
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:15.199
games are doing well. At least
Armored Corps was popular, but they canceled

901
01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:23.960
like five games and also said that
they are going to now basically have a

902
01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:28.199
stricter policy when it comes to games. We're going to build an optimum,

903
01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:32.159
well balanced title forfourlio, examine our
developmental system carefully and strengthen that development with

904
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:36.519
an empass on quality. So kind
of similar to what score Nix says.

905
01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:43.559
They're trying to do not so much
quantity, but more quality. And I

906
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:48.920
think that's a good thing. Yes, I agree. Less anime arena fighters.

907
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:55.079
Please stop making every anime game that
you make that isn't One Piece or

908
01:05:55.199 --> 01:06:00.239
Dragon Ball a arena fighter. We
don't need that. I'm sure people would

909
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:04.599
love to have their favorite anime franchise
e sport in a different way. And

910
01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:08.920
then yeah, forget forget that they
need to double done and they jump forward

911
01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:15.119
too. God please, let's not
mention that game ever again. Uh yeah,

912
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:18.480
and Narrito didn't save them either,
reently. So what's funny is like

913
01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:21.159
elden Ring was still, like,
I thin think one of the top twenty

914
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:25.360
best selling games the last year.
Yeah, I mean it shows how much

915
01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:28.360
elden Ring was amazing. And then
they obviously people are getting ready for the

916
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:31.599
DLC that's gonna come out, uh
this year, you presume, So that

917
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:36.840
would help them whenever that DLC does
come, But for now, that's that's

918
01:06:36.920 --> 01:06:41.559
kind of what they're dealing with.
I mean, the problem last year is

919
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:45.000
they only released like two games or
yeah, you know some of the nudo

920
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:49.239
game, you know, Armored Corps
six and the one Piece one Piece and

921
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:54.440
then the other one tells the Sifonia
Ring Mastered. It's like, yeah,

922
01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:59.039
that didn't do that. And then
they had that DLC for for tales,

923
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:02.440
but I think that didn't do that
hot either, Yeahause it came out too

924
01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:05.639
late. I mean that's the problem. And if you haven't played The Tails

925
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:09.360
of a Rise both of those games, that game is coming to Game Pass

926
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:14.639
and PS Plus by the way on
the twentieth, So get ready if you

927
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:17.239
haven't played that. Uh, I'm
sure you don't have time for a rainy,

928
01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:24.079
but it's one to check out,
not far fast, play a good

929
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:30.159
game. Instead, I'll play my
garbage. And first we have to talk

930
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:35.880
about Embracer again. I I already
talked about the terrible comments that their CEO

931
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:41.440
made today that was really unnecessary and
he really should have kept his mouth shut.

932
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:46.159
But they announced basically that, and
I'm not talking about Lars wing for

933
01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:49.719
it, by the way, I
should have mentioned. But he also talks

934
01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:56.360
about basically that even though they've already
cut one three and eighty seven jobs,

935
01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:01.480
uh, that they're in the final
stretch, but more cuts are coming or

936
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:05.440
could be coming, are probably are
coming, and that we're probably gonna hear

937
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:12.639
about them at some point other you
know, those studios may talk about that

938
01:08:12.760 --> 01:08:16.279
before we you know, we announced
it ourselves. But basically, get ready

939
01:08:16.279 --> 01:08:23.119
because more are coming. The terrible
case for a company, and they've also

940
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:29.840
canceled twenty nine projects. Not great. That's gonna work well to put stuff

941
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.239
out and they don't have anything so
to start, they had one hundred and

942
01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:39.880
fifty three unannounced schemes in development across
their internal studios. By the time the

943
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:43.279
third quarter ended in December, they
were down to one hundred and twenty four.

944
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:48.399
That's a lot and also that's a
lot of damn games period anyway.

945
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:53.760
But Randy, I mean, this
is just another sad case of this company.

946
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:59.439
I am so tired of this goddamn
company. I can't stand it.

947
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:03.760
Yes it is. It's we all
saw it coming when they were like eating

948
01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:08.479
up all these different companies and it's
like, this is not going to end

949
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:11.680
well, and yes it is.
It's it's getting worse and worse. More

950
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:14.399
and more layoffs are happening. They're
like, well, we got to get

951
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:16.239
all these games out and make all
this money. And I don't think Embrace

952
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:19.720
the Group ever realized like how much
money it takes to make games and how

953
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:24.600
long it takes before you can see
any of that money back, And now

954
01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:31.319
they're canceling them. And it's just
they made a lot of bad decisions,

955
01:09:31.319 --> 01:09:36.920
are like bad you know bets,
you know Saints Row or just for all

956
01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:42.640
humans. It's like, really,
you expect this money, like all all

957
01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:46.680
the remasters that they decided to just
hey, let's make this again. So

958
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:51.159
we can make a new game,
and then the remaster doesn't do that well,

959
01:09:51.239 --> 01:09:55.119
and it's like, okay, well
we're not going to make the new

960
01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:59.800
game now, and you got everybody
excited for nothing, and then it's just

961
01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:04.279
double A. Games can work.
You just got to have the right people

962
01:10:04.319 --> 01:10:09.800
behind them. And this is not
the publisher you want. I mean,

963
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:14.600
I watched like an hour and a
half the Dice Awards before I fell asleep

964
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:17.840
because it came on at like eleven
o'clock eastern over here. For Randy that's

965
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:20.039
not that big a deal. Came
on an eight pm over there, But

966
01:10:21.279 --> 01:10:27.000
yeah, Greg, Greg Miller made
a joke about the two things you don't

967
01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:31.680
want to hear are the Internet's mad
and the Embraser group is because you know

968
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:35.680
you're gonna get laid off basically,
and it's like or your your game's not

969
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:41.880
going to turn out well, and
it's like, man, just it sucks.

970
01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.720
It sucks to hear with this company. Is just I don't even want

971
01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:48.239
to know what we're going to be
talking about in all these weeks that are

972
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:54.840
happening with them talking about more stuff
is coming because whenever we do finally get

973
01:10:54.840 --> 01:10:56.920
to the light at the end,
of the Tunnel. What's going to be

974
01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:01.239
left, you know, like you
over, it'll be the companies that are

975
01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:05.840
still have a confirmed deal with Idos
or I mean, but Christal Dynamis and

976
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:11.600
yeah, Montreal, that'll be about
it or something Lord of the Rings related,

977
01:11:11.640 --> 01:11:14.239
because they have to use the property
because it's the only thing they have

978
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:19.800
left that That last game was stellar, wasn't it. Yes, yeah,

979
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:23.640
I mean and even that they sold
off the rights to Amazon. They had

980
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:26.640
to sell off the rights to Amazon
for the tomb Raiders stuff as well,

981
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:31.000
so just to make money. So
yeah, not great. Another not great

982
01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:40.279
thing Disco Elysium's developer and maker,
z A I forgot how you say this

983
01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:47.000
this name honestly zom or z A
slash Um. They've canceled what was supposed

984
01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:53.439
to be an expansion to disco Elysium, a game that I know Yen's liked

985
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:57.319
a lot and that many people did. This was like a under the radar

986
01:11:57.439 --> 01:12:02.359
hit the year it came out.
Yeah yeah, it's a big I mean

987
01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:05.119
well but like it was like one
of those you don't see coming, Like

988
01:12:05.159 --> 01:12:08.800
this game came out and it was
like oh crap, wow, like balder

989
01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:12.399
Skate before we got Ballerskate three like
this was like that. You know,

990
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:17.359
they actually canceled the sequel already they
were going to do an expansion, and

991
01:12:17.399 --> 01:12:20.000
now they have to cancel the expansion, and now they're going to have to

992
01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:27.560
lay off the people that were working
on Code Name X seven unfortunately. Uh,

993
01:12:27.680 --> 01:12:30.880
you know, they went through that
whole thing with the the game director

994
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:34.760
and the art director going at it
about who owns the rights to their company

995
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:40.920
and all that stuff, and they
just have not ever since, like after

996
01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:44.640
the success of disco Elsium. Just
it's sad to see what has happened to

997
01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:49.680
this company. Instead of going from
success to success, they go from just

998
01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:59.319
worse to worse unfortunately. So yeah, let's not I think the farthest way

999
01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:01.760
we can get from it shouldn't call
them. Probably a good thing at this

1000
01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:06.039
point when it comes to a little
bit. But yeah, it sucks.

1001
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:12.359
It sucks to see this for again, that dev that we thought was promising

1002
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:16.560
really too to what's been happening here
with them. So yeah, sucks.

1003
01:13:17.239 --> 01:13:23.520
But on a good note, speaking
of franchises continuing things, there is going

1004
01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:28.840
to be another Star Wars game,
and respond is making it so already get

1005
01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:30.560
excited. About that, because we
know what RESPAWD does with Star Wars games.

1006
01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:35.680
They just make it with those.
They're making a Mandalorian Star Wars game.

1007
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:40.239
Is that already gets you excited?
Randy? We're getting a Mandalorian Star

1008
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:45.359
Wars game. Oh wait, wait, I want a baby Oda game first.

1009
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:48.199
It'll be funny, it'll be playing. They can't get Pedro Pascal to

1010
01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:58.399
the voice. I mean they got
the money. It's uh, there's this

1011
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:01.840
game could work because wasn't that Star
Wars thirteen thirteen? What the fuck was

1012
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:08.880
called? Yeah, it was a
game for you paints helmet different but like

1013
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:13.279
here you go, Yeah, no, I mean it could and you know,

1014
01:14:13.319 --> 01:14:16.479
Mandalorian is still one of the ones
that as Scott says, Star Wars

1015
01:14:16.479 --> 01:14:19.640
titan Fall, who knows, Yeah, it could have some elements of that

1016
01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:25.199
in there. I mean if there's
a series that you say you're making a

1017
01:14:25.239 --> 01:14:29.359
game about that, and people automatically
are just as excited as you talk about

1018
01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:34.800
Mandalorian and people are there for that. And Star Wars Outlaws looks amazing and

1019
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:39.840
that's Ubisov doing it. So imagine
respond getting to do this kind of thing.

1020
01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:44.039
Uh, and we already saw what
what they can do with their own

1021
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:47.880
single player thing. So I'm down
with this, give me more, please,

1022
01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:54.640
even if prescal I would theoretically be
down. But there is a long,

1023
01:14:55.399 --> 01:14:59.960
long cemetery of abandoned or announced Star
Wars games that never came out.

1024
01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:03.239
Yeah, we'll see if it actually
happens. And you have to wonder with

1025
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:06.239
them announcing it now, how far
into development they are. I mean,

1026
01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:11.159
how long is Mandalorian going to go
on Disney So if this isn't coming out

1027
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:16.800
for another four years, Mandalorian ends
on Disney Plus, Dore's anybody care about

1028
01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:20.800
a Mandalorian game at that point?
I think so. I think there's gonna

1029
01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:26.640
it's another way to continue that,
you know, And hey, if this

1030
01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:30.119
does well and it doesn't have anything
to do with it's a separate story from

1031
01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:34.199
the Mandalorian that's on Disney Plus,
maybe that's a way to continue this as

1032
01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:39.039
well, you know. Beyond that. Yeah, I'm still surprised they haven't

1033
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:44.399
tried to come up with a Star
Wars Jedi show on Disney Plus. Wonderly.

1034
01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:45.880
The only thing I can think of
is maybe that dude just doesn't want

1035
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:50.199
to do it, maybe or they
don't want to spend the budget yeah,

1036
01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:59.840
do it because they already have a
Soca Mandalorian and or yeah. So adding

1037
01:15:59.840 --> 01:16:02.800
an other one is they might feel
like especially with them doing cost cutting right

1038
01:16:02.840 --> 01:16:08.439
now. But I wonder if that
was ever a thought at some point for

1039
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:13.920
them. I should have been just
liked fuck the Ahsoka show, making a

1040
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:17.119
lot of people like the Soka Did
you watch it, Randy or no?

1041
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:21.840
No he didn't, Yeah, go
ahead, No, I just said you're

1042
01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:29.399
better off for not watching it.
Any thoughts on the X Men ninety seven

1043
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:32.600
trailer that I saw. We watched
the trailer. I need to I watched

1044
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:39.199
it. I have to watch a
little funky in spots. Uh. They

1045
01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:45.359
definitely like de emphasize like rogues ass
there's always a problem. And some of

1046
01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:48.800
the voice acting looked sounded a little
a little weird as well like that,

1047
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:51.960
And you know, you can say, like, oh, it's you know,

1048
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:56.239
it's been twenty five years or whatever. Yeah, I guess, but

1049
01:16:56.960 --> 01:17:00.800
you know, maybe maybe recast him
then. Yeah, I don't. I

1050
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:05.000
wouldn't expect everything to sound just like
it did back then. It's been a

1051
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:09.880
long time. Yeah, as almost
they get scared of the show. I'm

1052
01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:13.680
good. Yeah, Yeah, I
looked a lot more anime though, which

1053
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:19.439
I'm not I'm surprised. I'm surprised
that they went that route considering, you

1054
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:25.279
know, Disney isn't always the biggest
fan of anime. But yeah, yeah,

1055
01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:28.279
that is is kind of interesting to
think about too. On that front.

1056
01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:33.039
One last thing here that just also
along with the Mandalorian news that got

1057
01:17:33.039 --> 01:17:38.439
announced like pretty much right before we
did the show, this hasn't been like

1058
01:17:38.800 --> 01:17:45.119
once again we're going with this idea
of Nintendo doesn't When is Nintendo going announce

1059
01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.880
to switch to Is it going to
be this year? Is it coming out

1060
01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:55.159
this year? Is it coming out
twenty twenty five? Another report already and

1061
01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:59.880
VU sees saying that they can't confirm
it themselves, but they're putting it out

1062
01:17:59.880 --> 01:18:06.920
there that there's talk of Nintendo might
have the Switch to come out as as

1063
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:12.239
twenty five and not this year.
Randy, where do you sit on like

1064
01:18:12.319 --> 01:18:15.439
when Switch should come out? Do
you think we need it now? I

1065
01:18:15.439 --> 01:18:21.119
mean, or do you think we
can win another year for when they're ready

1066
01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:25.119
they're ready? I think a lot
of it is they they want to do

1067
01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:30.159
what they did with the Switch and
have a really banger first year for it.

1068
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:32.439
I mean, you go back and
look at what the Switch lineup was

1069
01:18:32.479 --> 01:18:36.319
that very first year, and you
started at with Zelda and you later on

1070
01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:39.760
that year had a new Mario,
And I think that's what they're trying to

1071
01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:44.800
set up here, and maybe they're
waiting for Metroid to finally get ready to

1072
01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:47.479
be a launch game and have that
three D Mario that you were talking about

1073
01:18:47.560 --> 01:18:51.680
is also in that year. I
would not be surprised if it got announced

1074
01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:58.039
this fall. We saw a bigger
teaser around the Game Awards, maybe not

1075
01:18:58.079 --> 01:19:00.239
at the Game Awards, but around
that time, and then it just like

1076
01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:02.840
the Switch, it came out,
it comes out in the spring. That

1077
01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:10.119
That is my belief, especially because
we're getting farther and farther into this year

1078
01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:14.960
already and we still haven't gotten an
the announcement. Usually Nintendo, what it

1079
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:18.279
was five six months after they announced
the Switch that came out, So we're

1080
01:19:18.319 --> 01:19:23.640
gonna yeah, I was getting down
there as far as exactly, Yeah,

1081
01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:26.880
it came out of that initial trailer
that shocked us all, came out in

1082
01:19:26.960 --> 01:19:30.840
October, and then March is when
the system came out, So you with

1083
01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:36.560
that is around that time, right
they could they could potentially announce it The

1084
01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:42.279
original thought was that the reason why
they're having this partner direct in February is

1085
01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:46.079
that they're waiting for March maybe like
right tofore, Princess Peach is going to

1086
01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:51.159
come out, which is like their
last like big game that they have announced

1087
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:58.800
and then announced that they're doing officially
the Switch to or whatever it is,

1088
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:02.520
and then maybe you kick the can
down the line to June or July,

1089
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:06.840
where you're gonna say, Okay,
we're doing the announcement, this is what

1090
01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:12.880
it is, here's the reveal whatever, and then come out in the fall.

1091
01:20:13.479 --> 01:20:17.359
But yeah, I'm with you.
I'd much rather you have that killer

1092
01:20:17.399 --> 01:20:21.640
lineup of a year launch again like
you did last time, where every month

1093
01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:28.000
you had something awesome to come out, and you're talking about Switch that entire

1094
01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:31.520
year instead of oh, well,
we know three D Mario's coming, we

1095
01:20:31.560 --> 01:20:36.319
know Metro Prime for is coming,
and then yeah, who knows what else

1096
01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:42.560
Nintendo has cooking there. I don't
I'm not in a rush for it to

1097
01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:45.079
come out this fall. I know
there are people that are. I just

1098
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:49.640
had a you know, our friend
Gary Randy. He asked me, you

1099
01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:54.720
know, I want to buy a
Switch for my kids, And I told

1100
01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:58.920
him hold off, don't buy it
because the switch to is gonna get announced

1101
01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:01.119
and it's most it's likely going to
be backwards compatible with the Switch one,

1102
01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:04.079
which that also that report has also
come out that it looks like it will

1103
01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:09.439
be compatible, so you can buy
the switch one games, but you have

1104
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:12.520
the switch too. He's like,
man, I hope it gets announced this

1105
01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:15.319
year because he wanted to buy for
him for Christmas twenty twenty four. So

1106
01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:21.039
I do see that in that you'll
miss that Christmas window if you wait until

1107
01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:27.159
next year. But yeah, I
think it depends on if Nintendo thinks that

1108
01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:30.199
they there's going to be dropping in
sales and they really need to announce it,

1109
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:34.439
then go ahead. But I'm mark, I mean the is it a

1110
01:21:34.439 --> 01:21:38.159
big deal? If it doesn't come
out this year? I won't be this

1111
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:43.319
year because it's too it's already kind
of too late because even if announced it

1112
01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:46.319
in the spring, it'd be out
like the fall, and then you know,

1113
01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:51.039
the Christmas rush would just decimated.
So yeah, next year, it'll

1114
01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:55.920
come out in the spring and that'll
give them enough time to catch up with

1115
01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:00.159
like making the damn thing. Yeah, especially also if you're if if the

1116
01:22:00.760 --> 01:22:05.000
timeline is still there, that PlayStation
and xpots are going to release their mid

1117
01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:09.600
gen things in the fall. Why
are you going to release your new switch

1118
01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:15.720
thing that's gonna be even further down
on the graphics front right along with them,

1119
01:22:15.800 --> 01:22:19.640
and then have like everything instead of
releasing in the spring where you could

1120
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:24.239
have your own window. Yeah,
so I would have told your friend.

1121
01:22:24.279 --> 01:22:26.239
I would have told your friend,
also, just buy a switch now,

1122
01:22:26.359 --> 01:22:30.520
because you know, two hundred bucks
two fifty for a used one. He's

1123
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:34.640
not going to buy something news,
He's he's gonna buy it. He's he's

1124
01:22:34.680 --> 01:22:39.520
probably gonna buy the O lead.
And if you're gonna spend three fifty on

1125
01:22:39.560 --> 01:22:42.279
the O lead, wait till the
new one comes out. It's fifty bucks

1126
01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:44.439
more, and you get the new
one. You don't have to worry about

1127
01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:47.319
at the time. Also, we
didn't know that the switch. There was

1128
01:22:47.359 --> 01:22:50.199
still the rumors about, well,
maybe Switch two is not going to be

1129
01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:54.760
back compatible. So I told them
you might want to wait because if you

1130
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:58.119
buy Switch one and then Switch to
gets announced and they say it's not that

1131
01:22:58.279 --> 01:23:00.640
sur patable, and then you have
a system that you're buying games for that's

1132
01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:06.319
not going to be in use anymore
after So, yeah, I do think

1133
01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:10.439
there are a bunch of Nintendo fans
that wanted to come out sooner rather than

1134
01:23:10.520 --> 01:23:15.199
later, but I think it's not
the worst thing if it does wait till

1135
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:18.680
the spring, for sure. So
unless anybody has anything else they want to

1136
01:23:18.720 --> 01:23:27.479
talk about here, I think that's
it for this episode. There is some

1137
01:23:27.600 --> 01:23:33.760
things coming out between before we get
to Reverb. The that played up game

1138
01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:38.359
is on game Pass. It came
out yesterday. It's basically like a co

1139
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:43.479
op version of Overcooked, so even
like it's like an online co op version

1140
01:23:43.479 --> 01:23:47.399
of Overcooked kind of but with you
know, not as cool graphics, I

1141
01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:51.800
guess. And the Mari versus Donkey
Kong game, which seems like it's fine.

1142
01:23:53.439 --> 01:23:58.760
Yeah, it's played the four level
demo. If you did that,

1143
01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:01.359
it's fine. Like you said,
it doesn't should show you any of the

1144
01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:05.720
two new worlds that are in there, but it's a graphical update of an

1145
01:24:05.720 --> 01:24:10.560
older game, and it was fine. It's not fifty dollars worth of fine,

1146
01:24:10.680 --> 01:24:15.399
but yes, true Skull and Bones, which we've already heard from Scott

1147
01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:17.680
who's reviewing the game, is not
seventy dollars worth of fun, but it

1148
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:24.560
is. Uh, that's something if
you really are interested, maybe you go

1149
01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:29.039
and that's this one was great for
ub sawt plus. Go spend your eighteen

1150
01:24:29.159 --> 01:24:34.000
dollars and play it for a month
and then unsubscribed and then you know,

1151
01:24:34.079 --> 01:24:40.199
maybe maybe you be soft won't.
That's the one thing that I I'm sad

1152
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:44.720
about is that it's that double ed
sword that we're living in right now with

1153
01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:49.239
gaming in that if this game fails, which it looks like it's most likely

1154
01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:55.279
going to, uh, there's people
going to probably lose jobs over this.

1155
01:24:56.640 --> 01:25:00.319
I mean that we saw Shanghai office
is going to closet's be honest. Yeah,

1156
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:03.760
and it sucks to see. But
you also don't want to reward the

1157
01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:08.159
company and think that it's cool that
we want them to keep making games like

1158
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:11.079
this because you kind of don't want
them to. But then also that means

1159
01:25:11.079 --> 01:25:16.000
they're probably gonna rely even harder on
Assassin's Creed and Far Cry and whatever.

1160
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:20.800
So you know, I guess you
want new ip but maybe not like this

1161
01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:25.840
one game that was getting a lot
of buzz from the Steam. Next Vest

1162
01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:31.359
that's coming out this week as well, Balatio. It's like this cool like

1163
01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:38.359
card game. People should go check
that out. Watch a trailer being seen

1164
01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:43.000
a lot of people saying that they're
enjoying it. So and Nightingale, which

1165
01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:48.960
is that online survival game that kind
of has a cool setting of its own.

1166
01:25:49.199 --> 01:25:53.720
So that's coming out in the twentieth. They keep moving up the release

1167
01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:56.680
state. I think they're trying to
get another game that's trying to get away

1168
01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:01.840
from the Rebirth stuff, the Last
Epoch. It's kind of like a Diablo

1169
01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:05.880
like. It's coming out on the
twenty first. So I don't know if

1170
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:10.119
that you're looking at that at all, Mark, I know you like those

1171
01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:15.159
games. No, I'm focused and
start out to three. Yeah, and

1172
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:19.640
then you got Slight zero X,
which looks cool. It's very bloody,

1173
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:27.359
very glory, but it's one of
those like side scrolling, like action titles.

1174
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:30.079
I thought it was going to be
based on Slave zero forget that.

1175
01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:34.079
Yeah, and of course Specific Drive
as well that Mark talked about though.

1176
01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:38.840
Yeah, yeah, that's that's going
to be out by the time we do

1177
01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:43.000
the podcast next week. So for
sure, people, if you're interested,

1178
01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:46.199
there is a demo there. Like
Mark talked about how sad Are You Randy

1179
01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:50.399
that they decided to release that Brother's
Tale of Two Sons remake that the day

1180
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:54.800
before rebirth. Just gives me something
to look forward to later. I don't

1181
01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:57.439
have to play games the first day
they came out, especially a game that

1182
01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:00.399
it's a remake, because like I
already know the story, so I don't

1183
01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:03.319
have to worry about spoiler. I'm
excited they remade it. Bad timing,

1184
01:27:03.479 --> 01:27:09.039
but all right, Yeah, that's
gonna be it for the show here,

1185
01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:14.319
Uh, Randy, thank you for
being on. Go check out Randy on

1186
01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:17.399
the R and R Sports support every
week. Go check out Bad Brackets.

1187
01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:21.560
That's a really fun show to go
watch. If you're you can go watch

1188
01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:27.439
our video game Controller one. If
you're yelling, it's just a fun show

1189
01:27:28.359 --> 01:27:31.399
we're gonna have. There's be a
Pokemon one pretty soon. Yelling on that

1190
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:35.840
episode, so yeah, I can
I put my I gave you my my

1191
01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:40.000
top four in the Champie already.
There's gonna be a lot of yelling on

1192
01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:43.840
that one because Harry Broadhurst is on
this episode and he knows nothing about Pokemon.

1193
01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:46.159
Oh god, it's gonna be so
he's such a wild card for this

1194
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:49.640
episode. I care for you and
my son to just yell at him.

1195
01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:54.960
That's that's gonna be something else.
And I'm sure, there's so many people

1196
01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:57.359
that be like, why did y'all
only put through the one fifty one?

1197
01:27:57.399 --> 01:28:00.640
It's always been the one fifty one? What's wrong with you people? But

1198
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:01.880
hey, you know you gotta have
other episodes of Bad Bracket. There's so

1199
01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:09.520
many pokemon you can do like fire
Bad Brackets. So yeah, let's make

1200
01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:12.880
sure you know you can listen to
the show on podcasts, go rate and

1201
01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:17.000
review all that stuff. Thank everybody
for watching, listening, and we'll see

1202
01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:19.039
y'all later later bye,