WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:07.040 It's Tuesday night. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with 2 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:13.000 aw fan Hub. This is Kelson. I'm here with Sleazy the Professional and 3 00:00:13.119 --> 00:00:18.920 Renee and we're going to talk about headlines coming out of the weekend and a 4 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:23.519 short dy to my preview. We don't want to talk about it too much, 5 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:28.440 I guess. But before I get into anything, I want to express 6 00:00:28.559 --> 00:00:34.920 my concern and hopes that CJ Perry is feeling better. Some of you probably 7 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:43.960 KNOWJ had a infection on her hand, on her finger, and it spread 8 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:47.960 up to her arms. She was in the emergency room for over fifty hours 9 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:54.119 and went into surgery, successful surgery. Miro, her husband did post a 10 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:59.840 post on Instagram where he took her you know romantic gifts, you know, 11 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.680 pizza and soda. That's romantic to me because I'm Italian and I like food 12 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:11.280 and drink. But anyway, I hopefully CJ is feeling better. And we 13 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:18.200 missed you on Collision last week, but understandably and hopefully you'll get back to 14 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:23.000 work as soon as you feel better. But take care of yourself anyway, 15 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:26.400 Let's move on to Ignition, and you know what the first thing I want 16 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:34.280 to talk about is the improvements that we've been seeing in the aw women's division. 17 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:41.599 The ratings for the segments came out for Collision. Now, remember on 18 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:48.239 Collision we had the Abdon match, which of course had Julia Hart at sky 19 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:55.120 Blue for me a team and thunder Rosa coming off the Spanish announcing desk to 20 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:02.840 what I guess, basically save Abadon from the newly formed team of Julia Hart 21 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:08.680 and sky Blue. And then we also had the street fight between Chris Statlander 22 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:20.560 and Willem Nightingale against Mercedes Martinez and Diamante. Those two women's segments on Collision 23 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:28.639 were the two highest rated segments on the entire show as far as actual TV 24 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:35.159 ratings go. So hey, naysayers, if you think the women don't pull 25 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:40.360 in ratings, if you do good story, anything can pull in ratings. 26 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:45.800 Anything, and I'm not saying just women. You could put two turtles in 27 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:49.319 their shell just spinning on their backs. If it's a good story behind it, 28 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:53.159 somebody's going to watch it. Not on wrestling, but somebody's going to 29 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:58.759 watch it. Sleazy. What are your thoughts on the women's division? I 30 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:05.520 mean, the ratings are there, how have they improved? Yes? Because 31 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:10.199 as you can see the ratings have certainly improved, and that's due to the 32 00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:15.919 matter of fact that now TK is like, oh wait a minute, I 33 00:03:15.960 --> 00:03:21.680 should maybe tell stories instead of making this last minute. And that's the thing 34 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:27.800 that's the most important right here, especially with thunder Rosa's recent comeback story and 35 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:30.599 how she managed to do it, and now that the ratings are there, 36 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:36.360 it seems like we're finally getting the improvements that we need now. Of course, 37 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:39.719 in my personal opinion, that should be happening to certain other wrestlers, 38 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:44.080 but of course then we'd be here for twenty four hours talking about them. 39 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:52.199 So overall, I'd say the women's division is on the upswing. But well, 40 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:53.680 Sleasie, let me ask you a question before you throw it over to 41 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:59.439 the professional. So we saw the return to thunder Rosa. In your mind, 42 00:03:59.560 --> 00:04:04.199 is that a really big deal for aw Well, she certainly made it 43 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:09.560 a big deal. Again, as I said last week, what was most 44 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:15.240 important was what she did on Saturday, what she said and what she did, 45 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:20.000 and what she's saying and what she's doing. It's working, especially with 46 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:28.839 the raidings. Now the professional what is your professional opinion? Yeah, thanks, 47 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:32.800 Leevy, I'm actually not surprised that the women are doing well. The 48 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:38.600 reason Dan is we needed to have patients. There are a lot of women 49 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.800 that were injured over the last year. So you had Abadon who just returned 50 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:46.040 from injury, Red Velvet just returned from injury a few I think a few 51 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:49.560 weeks ago. You had Chris stat Leonar who returned from injury earlier this year 52 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:55.040 at double or nothing if I remember correctly. And now you got jad Hater. 53 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:58.399 She's on the shelf so she won't be coming back until probably next summer. 54 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:01.279 And then you also got Baker who was also injured, so you had 55 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.199 a lot of injuries. You still do have a lot of injuries with the 56 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:08.759 women's division. And then you also had Rio. I don't think she was 57 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:12.240 injured, but she just hadn't been in the States for such a long time, 58 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:15.360 so she returned a few weeks ago. So you didn't have a lot 59 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:20.439 of depth with the women's division, and I think that was overlooked. And 60 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:26.279 in traditional sports, depth is really really important. Yes, you have your 61 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:30.160 superstars, you have your Lebron James, and you know other players, but 62 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:34.160 if you don't have depth, those those bench pieces that can step up. 63 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:39.079 When that started these arrests or in this case, when a wrestler goes down, 64 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:44.399 it's going to suffer, and had suffered for a very very long time. 65 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.199 But I was just waiting because I always thought that it was kind of 66 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:53.160 funny that people thought that TK didn't care about women or women's wrestling when you 67 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:59.199 have Roh doing a great job with Athena and Billy Starks and other women wrestlers 68 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:01.639 that they're like right there even though they're not an ew So I was just 69 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:06.000 being patient, just waiting, And again, I'm not surprised that they've done 70 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:11.480 so well. You've had time to build stories, you've had time to get 71 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.839 wrestles that were injured, and they were away for a long time back into 72 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:18.480 the swing of things. So again I wasn't surprised. I'm very happy to 73 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.800 see them do so well, and I look forward to what's going to come 74 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:27.040 next with so many different storylines. Butther than that, I'll just throw it 75 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:30.560 over to Renee for his thoughts. Yeah, I totally agree with you guys 76 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:35.240 on on that for sure, But I was more rooding on Avagon coming back, 77 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:40.560 you know, because she had that long absence, And it's funny because 78 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:47.839 before coming on here and trying to set up for snight's podcast. Was watching 79 00:06:47.839 --> 00:06:55.199 an all dark match that she faced Rep. Delve Ball people, and and 80 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:58.920 if I have it right, Abadan just face Rep delb And of course you 81 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:06.199 know what happened is one her matches. I just because like I, uh 82 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:11.759 so, just anyone can correct me on this one. Abadan was out on 83 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:16.360 an entry. Yes, you was okay, so that deveryone explains that. 84 00:07:16.439 --> 00:07:20.199 Why a long acid? But I don't know. I just I just want 85 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:27.240 to see her ab On more, you know, and because I want to 86 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:34.199 see someone can actually beat the crap out her, you know, because there's 87 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:39.680 there is, like they say, there's always an achilles heel of some person. 88 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:43.439 So you know, one of the things that we talked about on the 89 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:48.560 Sunday Morning Ship talk was uh Abodon specifically uh And I think it was me 90 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:50.720 that brought up this point. It could have been somebody else. I don't 91 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:55.800 remember if I'm stepping on Toesy or I apologize, But we did talk a 92 00:07:55.800 --> 00:08:01.519 little bit about Abadon and the difference in Abadon right now to what Tony Khan 93 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.040 had done with other women. Now, Abadon is obviously getting a push to 94 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:11.360 be the challenger for Julia Hart for the TBS Championship. Now, whether that's 95 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:16.040 going to be at World's End or next week's Dynamite, we don't know. 96 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:24.279 But here's the point is that in the past, Tony Khan has basically given 97 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:31.600 his calendar specifically for Jade Cargill for the TBS Championship two or three wins and 98 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:37.840 then the championship match, and then that woman was never seen or heard from 99 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:43.080 again at all. Literally, it's like they dropped off the planet. But 100 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:52.440 with Abdon, Abadon has already had more appearances than most of the challengers that 101 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:58.720 Jade car Gill had. At addition to that, she's actually got story. 102 00:08:58.919 --> 00:09:03.720 And I apologize if I'm not using the correct pronouns, but it's too late 103 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:09.360 in the evening for me to do things. But Abadon really has a story 104 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:16.320 going behind their wrestling journey, where the women that challenge Jade Cargill did not. 105 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.960 And I think that's very interesting. And I want to make one other 106 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.639 point, and I want to throw it to everybody just briefly to see if 107 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:31.080 you agree with me or not. Yes, Looking at the last several weeks, 108 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.679 Tony Kahn is really building stories with his booking in the women's division. 109 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:43.480 Let's not forget as the professional brought up, Riho is now back. We 110 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.799 have Jamie Hayter, who is right around the corner. I've heard, and 111 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:52.799 you can correct me if I'm wrong to the professional, but I've heard that 112 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:58.679 she's almost ready and she'll be ready possibly for World's End to Bacon appearance. 113 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:05.799 Britt Bagner is bent out, you know so. But here's the thing. 114 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:13.919 Let's not forget that Mercedes Monet is out there and they've got to make well. 115 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.200 Tony Khan is making an effort, in my opinion, he's making an 116 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:24.080 effort with the women's division to entice Mercedes Monet and or Julia, whose contracted 117 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:30.320 stardom is up in March, to come over. Now there's other women that 118 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:33.320 are going to be coming too, don't forget. Beginning in a year, 119 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:39.440 Yukosa Kazaki is back in aw permanently. She's moved to the United States, 120 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:45.639 she's out of Japan. She is going to be She's got a new look, 121 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.960 and it's a really good look for her too. I really like it. 122 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.840 I can't wait to see if she changes a rear ring gear. But 123 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:58.639 ultimately we're enticing some I think a lot of this has to do with enticing 124 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:01.679 some of these free agents to come up. Lucie, what do you think 125 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.559 about that that opinion? Well, first off, I do want to say 126 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.600 that the storytelling has been very good. Hell, we could get an Undertaker 127 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.559 versus Caine kind of rivalry going with Julia and Abadon, because Abada is just 128 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:18.120 the monster and Julia Hart is well calculated, cold woman like the Undertaker. 129 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:22.919 But actually good. Now, the fact of the matter is, though, 130 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:28.960 if we're talking about only making it good for free agents, now, look, 131 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:35.240 Julia Hart, that actually makes sense, you know. But for Mercedes 132 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:41.480 Monett. Come on, why are we trying to entie super big superstars like 133 00:11:41.559 --> 00:11:48.559 this? Do you remember what happened with a certain rapped fist man. I'm 134 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.679 not looking forward to a rap fist man's situation with Mercedes Monet, which is 135 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.639 why I don't want her anywhere near the product, which is why DK needs 136 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:00.799 to be telling story for the sake of telling a good store, which was 137 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.879 the point of anyw in the first place, and not just be trying to 138 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.840 entice every other old guy who's gonna get the massive pop as soon as they 139 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:13.080 make an entrance. It doesn't matter okay, but I'm gonna throw it to 140 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:20.320 the professional for their professional opinion. I totally agree with you about Mercedes Monnet. 141 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:26.039 It's it's from the standpoint of what I don't like that's happening in the 142 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:31.759 industry. From what I'm seeing is there are certain wrestlers who, I mean, 143 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.000 every wrestlers are marked for themselves, but there are certain wrestlers that feel 144 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:39.879 like WW it is the pinnacle of wrestling, not even just sports entertainment, 145 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:45.840 So any other company is a step down. And I think that that's a 146 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.919 weak mentality to have because you don't put a lot of you don't have a 147 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:54.120 lot of faith in yourself to say I can be a simmerpiece of something that's 148 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:58.759 new as opposed to being another spoke on the wheel. And the WW is 149 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:01.039 comfortable for a lot of rest When I get it, I totally get it. 150 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:05.399 You know, wrestling may just be it for them, so if they 151 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:07.159 can't wrestle, how they're going to make some money. I get it. 152 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:11.200 It's very comfortable, cool. But for other people that want to, I 153 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:16.720 guess, think outside the box, take a chance on themselves, like John 154 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.559 Moxley did, which I was super shocked that he would do. I like 155 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:24.519 that, but I just feel like there are a lot of wrestlers who want 156 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:28.159 to go to the W route, so now they're enticed to go back, 157 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.679 like Mercedes Monet, and I think that's what she's gonna do. I don't 158 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:35.679 think she's gonna come to AW. I have very little faith that she will. 159 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:39.360 And even if she did, I would think that she would always have 160 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:43.279 one foot out the door like some of these other wrestlers who grew up in 161 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.759 a WW system and that's all they're really known. So I agree with you 162 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:50.720 there, Sleazy. I don't want to see her in AW. I hope 163 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:54.120 that Tony isn't doing this to entice her. I would rather than go after 164 00:13:54.240 --> 00:14:00.960 Julia, start to just go after wrestlers who've never been int Wwe work with 165 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:05.240 them, create a new generation of people that really don't have to have success 166 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:13.039 in wrestling by going to WW. So point and I'll go over to Renee 167 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.960 here. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna we'll makeet a total agreement on 168 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:22.440 this one, because I don't want to reference the man with the ref fist, 169 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.879 but I did. I pulled this up and I put it into the 170 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:31.159 aa w's of van Hub, where it was posted on October twenty sixth, 171 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:35.759 twenty twenty through about about the fistit Man. There's a point to this, 172 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:39.000 Okay, guys, hear me out, and I did say that. Now 173 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:43.840 I rate him as a four. If he comes back, there'll be a 174 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:48.120 big surprise because some of the wrestlers are gonna welcome back to both arms. 175 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:52.840 And anyways, if if your guys are interested in reading the whole thing, 176 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:56.399 it's it's in the utter chat part of that. So now to get back 177 00:14:56.440 --> 00:15:01.159 to mont it's like, yeah, exactly, here's the concern I'm gonna have 178 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.440 is like, it's the same thing that you guys brought it up. Yes, 179 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.159 you might bring someone from from a different place, but are you gonna 180 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:15.799 do you want DjVu all over again like the fisted Man? Or or should 181 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:22.080 say the best in the world when he arrived at a w no, because 182 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.960 one would one would tell me con thinks he learned his lessons first time around. 183 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:30.519 And also, by the way, I don't think one name is going 184 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:35.360 back to the to w. I just her hands or her hands are washed 185 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:39.519 once she left a long time ago on some back down. That's what I'm 186 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:43.840 thinking about that she probably just maybe she'll go a different promotion and continue on 187 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:52.399 her wrestling career. And yeah, okay, so I just think I had 188 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:54.000 to chunkle. I think it's funny that nobody wants to say, see, 189 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:58.519 I'm balking, man. I love it. Anyway, We're gonna move on 190 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:03.799 and for the next couple of segments, the professional you had a couple of 191 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.559 ideas of things to talk about, So I'm going to throw it over to 192 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:10.360 you. What is it that you'd like to talk about tonight? Yeah, 193 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:14.480 thanks, Gulson. So one of the topics that I want to discuss is 194 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:19.360 just the recent rumors of Warner Brothers Warner Brothers Discovery Sorry, having a meeting 195 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:25.120 with WWE in regards to their television deal for RAW and I want to say, 196 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:27.799 maybe it's for the next three to five years. And this is right 197 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:33.120 at the same time that AW is trying to negotiate a new deal for their 198 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:37.559 television properties, which include Dynamite, Collision, Rampage and also Ronk, so 199 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:44.799 that that's four properties to one. And with this kind of rumor, you 200 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:48.399 do see a lot of fans. I hate to say, both sides put 201 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:53.399 WWE fans and the AW fans they're kind of leaning towards you know, this 202 00:16:53.440 --> 00:17:00.360 could be aw's departure from Warner Brothers Discovery. History repeats self almost with you 203 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:06.400 know, Warner Brothers dropping WCW in two thousand and one, perhaps they drop 204 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.039 a W. And the reason this could be a strong possibility is Warner Brothers 205 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:17.720 Discovery is also trying to retain the NBA rights. So they've had the NBA 206 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:22.400 on TNT for god knows how long, maybe since I believe the early nineties, 207 00:17:23.799 --> 00:17:29.000 but them losing the NBA that would be a big blow to Warner Brothers 208 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:33.160 Discovery. So their main focus right now is trying to keep the NBA, 209 00:17:33.319 --> 00:17:40.400 especially keeping the NBA from returning perhaps too ironically NBC, which you know is 210 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:48.559 under that peacock umbrella. However, if you do have Warner Brothers Discovery shoes 211 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:52.200 and RAW over AW, what does that deed to the future of AW mean? 212 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.559 As a promoter, you need those television rights. I mean, heck, 213 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:03.640 every team in North from America right now, every professional sports team relies 214 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:08.799 on that TV money, whether it's a regional contract or it's the national distribution 215 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:15.599 of television revenue. That money is important. So if that money is taken 216 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:22.319 away. Yes, Tony CON's a billionaire, but how can AW be profitable. 217 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:26.839 They have a lot of expensive contracts with a lot of talent. So 218 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:33.480 if they lose Warner Bros. Discovery that relationship to their competitor, what does 219 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:36.119 that say for their future? I mean, yes, they can go to 220 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:41.720 another television network, but will that television network give them even the same amount 221 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.319 of money as maybe Warnbrough's Discovery would have given them. Now, we don't 222 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:49.680 know what's gonna happen. This is just speculation in my opinion. I don't 223 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:53.680 think AW is in trouble. I don't think they're even Warner Brough's Discovery. 224 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.799 I think that would be foolish of Warner Brothers Discovery to do. And I'm 225 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:02.680 not saying this is because I'm the b but I alluded to it as soon 226 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:07.519 as I talked about it. AW has four properties that will need rights three 227 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:14.200 more importantly roh. Yes, I know Tony's trying to loop the loop Roh 228 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:18.160 in with AW, but they have four properties to one property in WW. 229 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:23.000 Raw. Yes, WW has to day recognition and things like that, but 230 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:29.480 for the amount of money that WW will probably acts Warner Brothers Discovery to pay 231 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:36.400 for just one show. They can get a far better deal with AW and 232 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:41.039 even if they lose the NBA, they can actually save money because I believe 233 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:44.839 that they have a lot of debt, especially when they were Warner Brothers in 234 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.920 Discovery merged, they have a lot of debts. So they lose the NBA, 235 00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.119 they can perhaps use that money to pay down some of that debt or 236 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:56.119 whatever the case they be. But they get a better bargain and a better 237 00:19:56.200 --> 00:20:02.960 working relationship with AW as opposed to WW. You can't get those streaming rights. 238 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:07.480 You're gonna have to advertise a competitor on your intelligience network in Peacock. 239 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.960 With AW, they are receptive to any change that you at. Well, 240 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:15.440 probably not any change because I believe Rampage is supposed to be a third hour 241 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:21.960 of Dynamite, but they're receptive to changes. They have belts named after your 242 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:26.079 network. It's a much better deal. That's why I don't think Warner Brothers 243 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:33.119 Discovery is going to leave aw Hagen. But it's an interesting rumor. So 244 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:36.559 I'd like to get everyone else's thoughts, So I'll start with you, Sleepy. 245 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:40.920 Well, that certainly took a lot of time to explain, but thanks 246 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:48.799 for explaining question. Yes, recent so so anyway, this is one of 247 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:52.960 the many topics, major topics that just make me sad, that just make 248 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.799 me depressed. But you know what, screw it, I'll talk about it 249 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.839 anyway. At least from what I'm seeing it, it is stupid for Warner 250 00:21:00.880 --> 00:21:06.319 Brothers to try and back out with aw now, especially since you remember backing 251 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.680 all in when they were like, oh, yeah, we're gonna get a 252 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:14.279 billion dollar deal. Are they gonna back out of the billion dollar deal? 253 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:19.599 That'd be kind of hypocritical and perhaps lying, cheating and stealing. Now, 254 00:21:19.680 --> 00:21:22.720 the fact of the matter is, I don't think that's going to happen. 255 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.559 We're gonna keep on with Warner Bros. And stuff, And I don't care 256 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:30.079 about any basketball riots well except maybe the Celtics, but other than that, 257 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.920 I don't really care. But if it came down to it, here's what 258 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:37.319 I would do if I was TK, I would be like, Okay, 259 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:42.279 we gotta pretty much ax everything except for Dynamite and then make huge down cuts 260 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:47.559 on all these wrestlers. I know it sounds really harsh, sounds really critical, 261 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:49.440 but you know what you gotta do. What you gotta do to survive. 262 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.119 And if that's what it takes for AW to survive, then damn it, 263 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:56.440 that's what they gotta do to survive. AX Rampage, EX collision X 264 00:21:56.559 --> 00:22:00.960 ROH. Do whatever you need to do, use the act if you need 265 00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:03.440 to in order to survived, because I just don't want to watch AWA television 266 00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:07.079 because guess what if AW has nowhere to go, we as a fan hub 267 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:11.839 are kind of screwed. So anyway, I'm going to pass down to her 268 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:15.680 name. What do you think, Renae? Yeah, it's you're playing with 269 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:21.759 fire, guys, it's what comes to like a professional. I agree with 270 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:23.000 you one hundred percent too. It's like, look, I don't know how 271 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:29.279 long the NBA isnt World, but yeah, that's a big property that they 272 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:32.759 have in order to cover their bases, you know, for programming lines. 273 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:37.279 Don't forget that they have the NHL on TNT as well two that they didn't 274 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:41.880 have to consider. You know, I don't know how long that deal is 275 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:48.240 for that, but uh yeah, so if you take out AW programming, 276 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:53.119 it's like what is left to do. It's like like in terms of you 277 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:56.759 know what I mean in terms of programming and because the facts the fact that, 278 00:22:56.920 --> 00:23:02.799 like, think about this, do you really think Fox is going to 279 00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:07.119 take a W programming like it's bad? It's crazy enough that that, uh, 280 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:12.400 the other brand is going to consider taking n XT on a c W. 281 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:18.480 Did you guys hear about that? No, I have heard that. 282 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:26.039 Did turn down the CWS offered to put r O H on c W. 283 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:33.039 Yeah, I was too, I was I heard that too. Sorry guys 284 00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:37.839 for starting the Russell ramls on YouTube. Well getting ready for tonight's podcast. 285 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:44.079 Also, yeah, it just it just feels weird. It's just I hope 286 00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:47.720 it could be fixed. And I and the RUSS You didn't say that. 287 00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:53.039 Where bars scard Ys since when they merged together their dead? Yeah they are 288 00:23:53.119 --> 00:24:00.599 okay, but I'm still but also but yeah, also the about this, 289 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:06.200 just like if God for fit, if I Dave it considered going to NBC 290 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:11.920 slash Peacock, It's it's gonna be like the way the way w W was, 291 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:17.079 It's gonna die. You know, it's gonna be such a shame because 292 00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:22.359 the sering amount effort that Tony Conn and company build it up. And and 293 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:30.200 also like he can't put all four over bad money over good money all the 294 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.880 time. If it ever happens too, so because next thing you know, 295 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.799 he's gonna be broke and he has his clear bankruptcy and that's that as well. 296 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:45.759 So yeah, well, like hurt wrestling in North America. To be 297 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:49.160 honest, if we were and I'm not saying this to be biased, I'm 298 00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:53.519 serious, if we werenna lose AW, it would hurt wrestling in North America 299 00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:59.079 because even if you're rich, why did you want to invest in my promotion? 300 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:03.680 If he you see recently what has happened, You've seen like what has 301 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:07.559 happened when someone tries to go against the big behemoth and ww you know, 302 00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:12.839 so this is it's important, But I'm just I'm just not worried, not 303 00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:19.720 yet. But well, you know, it's it's all speculation at this point. 304 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:26.880 I mean, I'm sure that there's been talks that we don't know about, 305 00:25:26.039 --> 00:25:33.480 and there's been you know, proposals that we don't know about, considered 306 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.720 considerations that we don't know about, and I mean, okay, we're not 307 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:41.880 considering this, or we are considering this, this, you know, from 308 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:48.319 all avenues. Ultimately, I think what it comes down to is this AW 309 00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:52.039 is on Warner Brothers Discovery, right, now, and as the professional said, 310 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.799 Warner Brothers Discovery is their main focus is on the TN you know, 311 00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:02.720 the NBA on TNT. You know, that's what they've got to focus on. 312 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.079 That's their big money. If they lose that, frankly, nobody's gonna 313 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:11.960 be watching TN, T or TBS very much anyway. They have to get 314 00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:18.559 something else in there. And is AW the right thing to take place of 315 00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.640 TN, you know, the NBA on TNT or whatever. No, it 316 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:29.279 isn't. It's a totally different crowd. So there's a lot of stuff to 317 00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:33.279 play out. You know, you got also considered what the WWE They've got 318 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:40.759 their presence on Peacock. Does Warner Brothers Discovery want to if, just hypothetically 319 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:47.279 speaking, if Warner Brothers Discovery takes over WWE as their television property, what 320 00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:51.480 are they gonna do. Are they gonna put the WWE library on Max? 321 00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:53.599 Are they gonna put the premium live events on Max? Or are they going 322 00:26:53.680 --> 00:27:00.680 to keep the the pay per views on Bleacher? You know, there's a 323 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.319 lot of stuff that's going on. And also, you know, you got 324 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:11.079 to consider that these guys are professionals, not only Tony Kahan, you know, 325 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:17.519 but the Endeavor group with WWE, the Warner Brothers Discovery. These guys 326 00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:22.000 are professionals. They're going to do what's best for them and that's it. 327 00:27:22.039 --> 00:27:27.519 So well, I don't think that they can. The one thing that's gonna 328 00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:33.000 hurt Warner Brothers Discovery with with w W would be the pay per views because 329 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.240 I think w W is locked in with Pete Pockets at twenty twenty six. 330 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:42.160 That could be wrong, Okay, I didn't know that, yeah, and 331 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.960 that that will hurt. That's why I mentioned like they would be giving up 332 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:52.359 so much to just get three hours from w W, three hours a week, 333 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:57.119 compared to the five hours that AW gives them. Again, you got 334 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:03.359 six hours of Battle of the Belts. That's just that's why I don't I 335 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.079 don't think. That's why I'm not worried. The only thing that I'm worried 336 00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:12.359 about is the fact that Tony Kahan didn't agree with putting RH on CW because 337 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.480 I think it would have been better for them to get their name out there 338 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:26.160 on over the air television because there are people that don't have cable and they 339 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:32.400 can watch CW. Like I know, the CW has college sports, so 340 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:37.400 here I'm in Chicago. They show those games. Actually not even on the 341 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:41.319 CW like syndicated countel. They show it on WGN, which used to have 342 00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.279 a superstation channel across the Nathan or whatever. But a lot of people watch 343 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:49.200 that channel. So it's like if Roh can be guided on there. And 344 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.559 I get like he wants to keep that relationship with Warner broad A Discovery, 345 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:57.559 but now I wish they can find a way to get their shows on over 346 00:28:57.640 --> 00:29:03.480 the air television, whether it's a recap kill or whatever. Like that's how 347 00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.279 I followed WWF and WCW as a kid. Well, you know, the 348 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.119 one thing that I can say, you know, and this is something that 349 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:17.480 is working in Tony Kahn's favor with negotiations, is look at Revolution twenty twenty 350 00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:19.960 four, at all the tickets that it is sold already, and of course 351 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:25.720 you can't discount in August of next year, twenty twenty four, you've got 352 00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:37.480 all in. So you know, those are international fans that could really bring 353 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:45.359 in some revenue for whoever picks up aw, whether it's Warner Brothers, Discovery 354 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.279 or some other entity. The professional Let's move on here because I don't want 355 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:56.519 to talk about this for another sixty minutes. What there was something else you 356 00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:03.599 wanted to talk about, so hit us with it. Yeah, So we've 357 00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:07.359 seen AW. They've struggled recently or for the bed part of this year, 358 00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:15.039 especially from the summer on, with attendance ratings. I cannot remember the last 359 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:19.319 time that they had viewership of over a million on average, and that just 360 00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:25.240 doesn't include like the start of the show coming from that Big Bang theory leader. 361 00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.839 You know. So they struggled. We've seen w there on the hot 362 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:33.160 streak, the hottest that they've been. I haven't watched theww It's not my 363 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.880 taste. But that leads me into just the question that I have or the 364 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:44.279 thoughts that I have in REGARDSS to current wrestling fans. And I wasn't aware 365 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:48.279 of this until this year. It this appears that and this is not to 366 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:53.839 any fault of those wrestling fans, but it appears that in this continent, 367 00:30:53.960 --> 00:31:03.240 North America, we prioritize sports entertainment over wrestling, and I didn't pay attention 368 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.440 to it. But over the years since AW has started, you know, 369 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.240 they've always wanted to veer away from that sports entertainment, want to be more 370 00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:18.079 sports based, like New Japan Pro Wrestling. Is they had the ranking system. 371 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.680 You know, you don't start many Dynamite shows with a twenty minute promo 372 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.559 things of that nature. But you start to just hear some complaints or read 373 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.279 complaints online. The ranking system doesn't make sense. They're just farming wins on 374 00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:36.279 Dark and Dark Elevation. Let's get away from the ranking system. Why isn't 375 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.759 this, Why wasn't this on Dynamite? Why didn't they do this promo? 376 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.799 Things like that, and like I said, didn't become apparent to me until 377 00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:51.240 this year that it just appears that most wrestling fans in North America again are 378 00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:55.759 sports entertainment fans. So I just want to know from all of you, 379 00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.559 what do you think AW fans are. Do you think they're mostly of sports 380 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.599 entertainment or do you think they're mostly fans of wrestling? Because of my opinion, 381 00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.799 it just seems like one stuff that you got hot again, people just 382 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:14.039 left AW and went back to that sports entertainment that they know and love as 383 00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:19.079 opposed to trying to I don't want to say this, but just trying to 384 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:24.200 really follow wrestling. So I'll just throw it over to us. Leason, 385 00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:30.400 Well, I mean the fact that the matter is is what you define and 386 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.839 sports entertainment, you know, I mean, like, what are we talking 387 00:32:34.839 --> 00:32:37.000 about here? Are we talking about kind of like the crazy stuff going on 388 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:42.799 with them Jeff and Ale? Or are we talking about really cool storylines like 389 00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:46.039 can you make it an ADI page for four years? You know that? 390 00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:50.920 In terms of that, like, in terms of that stuff, people do 391 00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:55.720 want that, but they also want actually quantity wrestling. After all, North 392 00:32:55.759 --> 00:33:00.640 America was like, hey wwwe actually put what your wrestlers who can do a 393 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:06.240 moon salt without breaking their heads? Now, of course, personally for me, 394 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:09.519 since I'm wearing my Magic Meet shirt, I'm a fan of Danny Madge 395 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:16.400 met nerd do you bear to me sports entertainers? And that doesn't mean I 396 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:22.079 don't appreciate good wrestling. That was actually pretty good. I know, I'm 397 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.240 a really good It was good. But the fact of the manner is that 398 00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.400 we do want both. And don't you be like that guy on Twitter who 399 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.640 was like, do you want this thing or another thing? And then the 400 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:38.559 other guy says both, because guess what North America does indeed want both, 401 00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:44.440 So shush to all the people being like, do you want one thing or 402 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:49.880 do you want another because we want both. It's just everyone sucks at delivering 403 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:54.480 both, except the indies at least. Right now, Uh, Renee, 404 00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:58.759 what's your thoughts? Well? Well, sorry, sorry before before you go, 405 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:02.640 Rene and Key elaborate more on next. I want to hear more about, 406 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.880 like why North Americans, I guess want both because I feel like it's 407 00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:12.280 one of the other. But yeah, I would love to hear more about 408 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:16.079 that. Well, the fact of the matter is North America was going nuts 409 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:21.000 over MJF and Adam Cole over the summer, you know, with all their 410 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:25.280 shenanigans, being like, let's beat up all these kids at a trampoline park 411 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.719 and yeah, let's drink this hot sauce while we're talking about how I slammed 412 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:34.880 the Big Bill in the middle of Madison Square Garden or whatever. Guess what, 413 00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:40.519 we also go nuts for crazy spectacular matches like flood and guts and you 414 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:45.679 know, like extreme wrestling, and you know, just all the good wrestling 415 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:52.159 matches like that, you know. So the fact of the matter is we 416 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:57.719 go nuts over both. We just need them both in high quality WWE. 417 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.360 They can't do it. They can't be who wrestle and have quality storylines. 418 00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:07.679 At the same time they just suck all together and a W they're retreading their 419 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:13.199 way towards that bound. Now, Braine, what's your thoughts? Okay, 420 00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:19.000 just run your clarification to essnal. Where where do you think the decline of 421 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:30.440 like fandom of AW went when I just want I want to say it started 422 00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.559 slowly. And I hate to say this, but go ahead. Kind of 423 00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.239 saw it coming and that's why I didn't agree with AW fans doing this. 424 00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:44.079 I want to say it started when Cody went and went back to w W. 425 00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:49.760 Okay, because he's just meet in my opinion, he is a sports 426 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.519 entertainer at heart, and he's a great amateur wrestler. I think he has 427 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.599 a good amateur background in high school, but he is a sports entertainer at 428 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:02.400 heart, and I think once he went to w slowly started and it kind 429 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.199 of didn't stop. It Well, it hasn't stopped. That's you said. 430 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:22.519 My take on that, basically, it's just I don't know. Maybe maybe 431 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:28.800 I might be wrong on this, guys, but uh most but probably there 432 00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:32.559 are some people that do go to a W events, which you cool to 433 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:37.239 tapings, you know, maybe just something it's just something to do. It's 434 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:42.000 kind of like, you know, like you, me, me and my 435 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.280 dad Will as an example, we go watch hockey game, just just something 436 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:51.519 to do, you know, and and then realize, oh, there's wrestling 437 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.119 it here, you know, all this stuff. But I'm but then again, 438 00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:01.440 I'm pretty sure there's there's been hardcore Day one ers of aw fans has 439 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.159 been there for the get go, They've been there for Daily's placed in the 440 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:16.199 pandemic, right, But still the concern is that too. It's like, 441 00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:24.280 yes, it's sold out, what was it all in? Yeah, okay, 442 00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:29.039 if that sold out, right, I don't think it sold out, 443 00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:36.519 but it had the most ticket sales of any is sold out. Anyone can 444 00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.159 quarify that it's not sold out. That's kind of a hard thing to say, 445 00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:49.519 because when they initially released the tickets for Revolution to set up was for 446 00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.920 X amount of seats, and they started to get close to selling that out, 447 00:37:54.119 --> 00:38:00.280 even though the it wasn't the entire arena. They had to release more 448 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.360 seats and they may even have to do it again. So no, Revolution 449 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:08.239 isn't sold out per se as far as the arena size, but it's getting 450 00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:14.800 close to selling out the setup that they have, which may result in even 451 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.880 more seats being opened up. Okay, and that's of course if I do 452 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:25.880 know this that this would be stayings class match as a as a professionals will 453 00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:30.000 be weird and see go. But to understandable, he's been around for a 454 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:37.320 lot of time. Do you okay? So I'll post this question. Do 455 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.679 you guys and Edward can chime in. Do you guys think that maybe there'll 456 00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:45.440 be a point to aid that can't topple the other brands if it was done 457 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:51.239 properly, no matter what side you're on, if it's if it's for sports 458 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:55.920 entertainment or just a wrestling part of it. Sure, I mean anything, 459 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.039 you know, any given Sunday is an expression used in NFL football. It's 460 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:06.639 the same thing with professional wrestling. It's some same thing. People WCW beat 461 00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:10.559 the hell out of WWE ye and then they folded. You know, It's 462 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:17.039 as simple as that. It's consistency. It's putting a consistent good product out 463 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:22.199 and being accessible. If there's one thing that I can say about ae W 464 00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:31.039 in my opinion is that it's not as accessible as WWE, Meaning how many 465 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:35.920 shows did they have in Chicago last year? There's only fifty two weeks in 466 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.639 a year. You know what I'm saying. I'll give you an example I 467 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.000 have where I live. It's a smaller area in northeastern Pennsylvania. We do 468 00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:52.519 have an arena here that holds not you know, it's a minor league hockey 469 00:39:52.559 --> 00:40:00.239 arena. WCW is here, WWE, WWE was here just a few weeks 470 00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:06.800 ago. Right a w has never been here. You if you want, 471 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:10.360 if you want to get fans to come to your shows, you've got to 472 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:15.039 be accessible to the fans. And if the fans come to your shows, 473 00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:22.039 then they'll start watching you on TV. If you're going for the you know, 474 00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:30.199 basically the residents of Chicago to be your fan base that stay in Chicago. 475 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:35.679 Look at the ratings when when AW did their last tour of Canada, 476 00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:39.079 the ratings in the United States pretty much tanked. Why because they weren't in 477 00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:45.280 the United States. You know, it's great doing a show in Montreal and 478 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:49.719 then doing a show in Long Island and then doing a show in Detroit, 479 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.360 et cetera, et cetera, But staying out of the country for two months 480 00:40:53.480 --> 00:41:00.480 is not It's just not good. I mean, especially since Canada doesn't have 481 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:05.400 you know, I see it all the time on Reddit. Where can I 482 00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.360 watch aw on in Canada? I live in Canada. Where can I watch 483 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:13.920 it? And it's not accessible? Well yes, in a way, yes 484 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:17.639 and no, because that's what's that's what I get pissed off about. Where. 485 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.239 Okay, so far as I know that either Dynamite if it's a double 486 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:28.920 on ts N two, okay, that that's But the crappy part is that 487 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:37.360 for a Rampage and Collision is on ts N Plus. But and the way 488 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:42.199 before it was it was on a preview basis. But now you have to 489 00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:46.639 pay like seven or eight dollars to go watch go watch that stuff, and 490 00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:57.880 that's not right, you know, Yes, I am ahead, sorry, 491 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:04.079 just way fish and I'll bring it back in. So I probably damn lucky 492 00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:07.039 if I get if worst comes the worst, if I don't watch No Dynamite 493 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:14.079 and hope and pray that there is a replay of Dynamite to catch up on 494 00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:21.320 it. But yet I can't do it for Rampage and Collision because really I 495 00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:24.360 can't literally afford seventy seven dollars, just like much syncing with the Honor Club. 496 00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:29.400 Can't afford that. And but lista get so that's all. That's why 497 00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:35.039 I have watching it from other sources on Amazon, fire TV, through whatever 498 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.920 source I get from. Of course, you know, there's no guarantee it's 499 00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:44.199 gonna, you know, be all right, because it can. It was 500 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.599 a Saint lax. But there's your answer. If you want, for those 501 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:52.280 who are wondering where you can watch an W it's on there. And again, 502 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:58.400 if you want to pay Semurai bucks for wherever it is, throw your 503 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.679 boots on me. I'm just talking. I can watch TSN and have those 504 00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:06.239 channels and TSN two. So okay, what did you want to say with 505 00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.360 professional Yeah, I was gonna ask you because like I was in Toronto for 506 00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:15.079 a forbidden dorm and I remember, like I wasn't in my hotel room for 507 00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:16.880 a long time, but there was a time where I was in there for 508 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:21.559 a few hours and it was like, legit, nothing on television like the 509 00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.199 TSNs or whatever. I was gonna ask, what the hell are they showing 510 00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:30.199 on ts N two on a Friday night or on a Saturday that they can't 511 00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.159 put a W on. I don't. I don't get it like that. 512 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.639 It's an understanding. Yeah, I get you. You're from Desion it's not 513 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.400 my call. So the only thing I can say is like, maybe contact 514 00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:45.800 TSN and see what's about this. I was asking you, like, like 515 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:51.599 what what do they typically show? Like, well, I know, I 516 00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:54.440 know you're I know you're asking, but I just it's the best way is 517 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:59.760 like you just go to the website and just scroll down with what they what 518 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:05.360 they show for on you know, on Monday at least money the Sunday money 519 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.400 to Sunday. But I just know right now it's for the most part, 520 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:13.199 it's showing Montreal Cana games on there, which she had to be in the 521 00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.360 mount of region or in this case here where I am that to watch that. 522 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:25.960 But that's as an example. Sometimes it will show college football, sometimes 523 00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.960 it shows other stuff. It just it just it depends. But I but 524 00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:36.159 I do understand what you're coming from too. And on a side note, 525 00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:44.519 anyone cares about the other brands? Really it is available on It is about 526 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:50.280 on Spurts at three sixty for Raw SmackDown and NXT. Okay, we don't 527 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:54.000 care. We don't care about the other brand. Yeah, I just I 528 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:59.440 know, but just one man mentioned it. Girls are wondering about where the 529 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.599 w We don't care about the other bread. That's yeah, I appreciate it 530 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.480 with me. I appreciate you giving me some concepts, like I said, 531 00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:09.840 so much, and they it doesn't sound like it will be a problem for 532 00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:16.920 them to Yes, I can I chime in now. Yeah, so this 533 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:23.239 is one that this whole thing with the location bull crap and the bull crap 534 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:27.840 of not being accessible as a brand. This crap is what I've been nagging 535 00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.239 about this whole year. They've only this is the first year at least to 536 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:37.039 my knowledge, that we're doing who It'sburg shows? Two whole shows. Why 537 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.599 can't we get sixty nine shows? Why can't you do a show out Oakland? 538 00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:44.559 Hell, you could go into collegeum and actually get that damn thing to 539 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.639 feel since oh, guess what, they're losing their baseball team. Maybe I 540 00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.880 don't know, maybe tour around the Midwest, maybe a little bit more consistently. 541 00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.000 Maybe then you'll get some more fans getting accessibility right there. You know, 542 00:45:55.360 --> 00:46:00.159 this is something I wanted to break it here. I wanted to That's 543 00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:05.760 the original question. Sports entertainment versus actual wrestling. For me, it's a 544 00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:09.159 mixture of both. That's what I want to see, And I think maybe 545 00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:13.639 I can't speak for other fans. It's presumptuous for me to speak for other 546 00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:16.960 fans, but I can. I could talk maybe about what my friends and 547 00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:22.519 I have talked about with wrestling, and that's basically is that we do want 548 00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:29.559 it. It's great having great matches, but if they're random great matches without 549 00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:34.480 a story, you're losing something there. So you do gain something by putting 550 00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:37.400 on a great match, but having a good story lead up to it. 551 00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:42.679 Now, we don't want a story that takes, you know, six weeks 552 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:46.119 to get to a match or stuff like that. Now, sometimes that works. 553 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:52.480 I made a post earlier on aw phantob about Julia Hart. It's been 554 00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:59.119 a little over two years now since Julia Hart was missed by Malachi Black, 555 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:04.199 but hersh story has evolved. Sure, it was a slow burd at first 556 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.639 because of the Ray Phoenix injury that kind of stopped her from joining the House 557 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:14.440 of Black for an extended period of time, But her story has progressed incrementally 558 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:21.039 at a good pace that matches her development. But it's progressed at a good 559 00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:24.760 pace and it's not getting complacent. We just on collision. We just saw 560 00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:30.639 sky Blue come in. Did it mix as a possible partner long term for 561 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:37.320 Julia Hart. We have the whole avanon story going on. Thunderosa is now 562 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:42.400 going to be standing toe to toe with Julia Hart. Rijo has said that 563 00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.679 she wants to go after the World Championship, but she's got her eye on 564 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:51.039 Julia Hart too. This is what I'm talking about, these little subtle things 565 00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:58.039 that they can do to build story so that when a match eventually does happen, 566 00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.280 there's some context there. Okay, So I want to move on to 567 00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:07.000 Dynamite, and we're going a little bit long here, So what I want 568 00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:14.920 to do is I want to go right into our Spicy Predictions segment. We 569 00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:19.440 can look at the Dynamite card, whether you're talking about the matches themselves, 570 00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:24.400 or MJF and Samoa Joe coming out, or something else that'll happen. But 571 00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:30.239 go ahead and pick up maybe two of the matches or whatever storylines you want 572 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:35.960 to talk about that's going to be happening tomorrow night on Dynamite and give us 573 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:40.079 your thoughts and we'll just go down the line on that and I will give 574 00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:47.960 my thoughts at the end. So Sleazy, go ahead, Well for my 575 00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:55.679 Spicy Prediction tonight. Since we're going to hear from MJF and Smoke Joe, 576 00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:02.519 that obviously means we're going to lead to more heavy hints at the Devil is 577 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:07.679 going to be Jungle Boy, all right, because I have a theory right 578 00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:14.440 now that when they're talking, suddenly two goons are gonna ambush them and then 579 00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:22.679 throw them onto real glass panes on cars. Thus two, you could maybe 580 00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.960 have maybe three, four or five, even sixty nine, Okay, but 581 00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:30.239 the factor yeah, But the fact of matter is it's only gonna be a 582 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.639 matter of because if we're hearing from both before their tag match, that means 583 00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:37.840 we're gonna get even more heavy hinting towards Jungle Boy being the Devil. And 584 00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:44.000 then when Friday or Saturday comes along, guess what it's gonna be. Jungle 585 00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:49.400 Boy, It's gonna be the greatest day of my life. So anyway, 586 00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:59.880 that professional what's your professional opinion outside of the greatest day in your life occur 587 00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:06.920 in a few days. I predict that Jay Lethal is going to lose and 588 00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:13.199 he will be the only person in the Condal Classic with zero points. I 589 00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:16.920 think the story is setting up that way. This probably would lead to him 590 00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:22.719 leaving Jeff Jarrett and his goons. But I predict that Jay Lethal will finish 591 00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:28.840 the Condonal Classic with zero points, So I'm gonna throw it over to remain 592 00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:37.719 thinking of that. The match card for through the fan heb on Reddit. 593 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:45.719 I marked down my winners here for that, So you're right, will lose, 594 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:51.599 let me win that, Boxley will win his match, Brush will win 595 00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:55.679 his Real will win her match, and Commander will win his match against Rogert 596 00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:02.480 Strong because because honestly I hate that guy, Rod Rod put a towel in 597 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:07.760 your mouth and shut it, man. That's I think that's the point. 598 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:15.719 Yeah, yeah, otherwise it wouldn't be funny. Yeah. So but like 599 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:17.880 I said, that's that's my predictions. Firtimore, when I said, am 600 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:24.199 I I'm right as I watch it wherever which way, you know, I'm 601 00:51:24.199 --> 00:51:29.800 looking at this MGF and Samoa Joe's segment, and I'm wondering because there's so 602 00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:34.840 many things. As Sleazy said, they could get attacked by two three, 603 00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:40.679 four, esty nine uh goons, Jack Perry and his double mask, which 604 00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:47.199 you know, of course there's swears all over the place. But aw said 605 00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:53.960 that the devil has been the devil all long this has been the same players 606 00:51:54.119 --> 00:52:00.039 all along, and it's not Jack Perry. I have a hard time I 607 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:02.519 believe in that. I really do think all signs lead to Jack Perry. 608 00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:07.239 But here's the thing, this is what I'm interested in seeing during this MGF 609 00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:13.679 and Samoa Joe's segment. Okay, so when the last time we actually saw 610 00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.920 MGF, he was laid out out back after we get it, hit over 611 00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:22.320 to head with a beer bottle, and so that made everybody think that it 612 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:30.559 could be that the devil could be Hangman Adam Page. Correct. Then last 613 00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:36.639 week Hangman Adam Page was proven not to be the devil because the devil and 614 00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:45.079 his goons attacked Hangman Adam Page and slammed him onto a glass windshield, which 615 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.480 led people to say, oh, it's real glass, cribe a river. 616 00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:58.800 The devil is Jack Perry. Well, what happens this week? What happens 617 00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:05.679 this week? If they do some thing else and it points a finger at 618 00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:12.159 yet another. It's brilliant when you think about it. Everybody was sure that 619 00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.880 it may have been you know that it was Hagman Haddam Page with the beer 620 00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:20.000 bottle and everything, and it isn't. Now everybody sure it's Jack Perry. 621 00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:23.119 What if they do something tomorrow night that proves that it isn't Jack Perry. 622 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:34.199 Interesting stuff that could be happening here all. You know, my big thing 623 00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:39.719 is every day I gotta agree with you, I'm kind of odd in my 624 00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:46.199 preferences. There's two stories that I'm not buying into right now that I think 625 00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:53.079 need to be fleshed out better. One is Roderick Strong. I'm really not 626 00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:58.840 enjoying him doing the same thing week after week after. I mean, his 627 00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:04.119 biggest accomplishment in the last two months is getting out of the wheelchair. Actually, 628 00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:07.440 the second think, the second place of commage was able to beat Chris 629 00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:12.280 Jorco that in that street fight. If you will, that's yeah, I 630 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:15.960 didn't. I didn't care. The second person that I'm really starting to lose 631 00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:21.519 interested is Tony Storm of all people. I mean, you got Rio and 632 00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:30.280 Sorea fighting to uh earn the earned the world title shot at World's End tomorrow 633 00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:35.719 night, which I do think Rio is going to win, but I don't 634 00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.760 think Rio is going to win the match at World's End. But my point 635 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:45.719 behind all this is, you know, Tony Storm is doing great character work, 636 00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:51.559 but it's taken away from her wrestling, and Tony Storm is a terrific 637 00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:58.519 wrestler and I want to see her wrestle, you know. And she's even 638 00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:04.800 her last match with that metal plate she put up her heights wrestling tights that 639 00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:10.480 was horribly executed. You know, it just did nothing for me, really 640 00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:15.639 didn't. I want to see Tony Storm just wrestle, right. I love 641 00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:22.599 the character, but it's it's not something that I want to see. I 642 00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.480 don't know how you guys feel about it. But a year from now, 643 00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:30.559 I hope it's not the same thing because that would that would drive me nuts. 644 00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:32.639 It's gonna drive me nuts as well as Calson. I just want to 645 00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:37.920 say it too. It's like, uh, like I've never scort through acts 646 00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:45.559 one day just for fun to see the aw's count. And she was promoting 647 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:49.599 both you know, upcoming you know shows if you will, and she's the 648 00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:53.039 way she was saying brand patient diamonds, like I was like lapping my face 649 00:55:53.119 --> 00:56:02.239 up, are you kidding me? Round that day and Colisio. You know, 650 00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:07.280 but that's that's fine, that's entertaining. That's not on TV. That's 651 00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:10.760 you know, promotional, and she's great at that. I have my problem 652 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:15.000 is. I just don't want to see her be doing the same thing on 653 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:20.760 TV that she's doing now a year from now. I mentioned Julia Hart, 654 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:25.800 right, she's doing the same thing that she was doing, you know, 655 00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:31.599 two years ago, basically, But it was it's evolved, It's continually evolved, 656 00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:37.880 you know. So that's my point. If if Tony Storm doesn't evolve, 657 00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:43.840 then it's it's going to be it's gonna hurt Tony Storm in the end, 658 00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:47.079 because she is a darn good wrestler and I don't want to see her 659 00:56:47.239 --> 00:57:00.159 wrestling overshadowed by a character work arc that potentially could get old for other people. 660 00:57:00.679 --> 00:57:09.360 One last question that I want to ask everybody. We the final matches 661 00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:15.960 are coming up in the Gold League. I think there's everybody has to fight 662 00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:22.880 two more matches in the Blue League. If I'm not mistaken, we've already 663 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:29.079 established that. Who was I think it was Renee said that, Well, 664 00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:32.800 somebody said that Jay Lethal was going to go winless. That the pressure as 665 00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:38.480 the one that's brought it up. Beniel Daniel Garcia. The Blue League is 666 00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:44.199 also winless. Do we think that he's gonna win a match? I mean 667 00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:52.000 he's got uh, he's got Brody King left. I believe, M chance 668 00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:54.760 you know now that you bring that up, I don't. I don't know, 669 00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.760 because I did say that I thought d is going to be the only 670 00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:05.920 so without a win, and that was because I didn't realize that Denny Garcia 671 00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:10.320 is going against Berdy King. So I don't know. Maybe Dane Garcia also 672 00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:16.360 has zero wins. Yeah, I mean, you'll look at it this way. 673 00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:25.480 I still believe that I do believe that Eddie Kingston's gonna win this tournament. 674 00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.360 Whether you like Eddie or not, I think that it's Eddie Kingston's tournament. 675 00:58:34.639 --> 00:58:37.119 And whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, I'll leave it 676 00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:43.800 up to the community to decide. But well, this is the first actually 677 00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:49.639 thinking Eddie's gonna win something. Oh, I've I've picked Eddie to win a 678 00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:53.599 lot sleazy. Do I want him to win? No, But I've picked 679 00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:59.639 him to win because it makes sense. I've picked him to lose the first 680 00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:02.960 match in this tournament because I thought it made sense. Because Eddie is at 681 00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:08.199 his best when he's an underdog, when the odds are stacked against him. 682 00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:15.880 That's when his character is the most dynamic, is the most believable. And 683 00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.519 you know, sincerely speaking right now, I mean, he's at six points. 684 00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:27.719 I believe it is because I think the the b lou League thing that 685 00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:32.000 I put up is incorrect. But he's at six points. But so is 686 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:39.719 Brody king you know. And I think that we're gonna see, you know, 687 00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:46.559 Eddie Kingston somehow sneak his way into this tournament semi finals, and I 688 00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:51.960 think he's gonna win the whole thing. Let's face it kind of suck for 689 00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:55.119 Eddie to put two of his belts on the line and then have him taken 690 00:59:55.159 --> 01:00:01.840 away due to booking. You know, let's be real here. Well, 691 01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:07.480 so I forget again, like as I said on Shiit Talk, that he's 692 01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:09.480 the one has to go home, is to put every in a line for 693 01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:15.159 the reason that like, let's have let's have some real rustling boys. No, 694 01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:22.280 And and if he does that, if he pulls this miracle and three 695 01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:29.119 fourth Street type thing, it, it's gonna be kind of awesome because prove 696 01:00:29.199 --> 01:00:32.360 that not. I guess in the long run, it was the right thing 697 01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:36.519 to do. Put those belts on the line, to show that I could 698 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:40.239 do this. Or disagree, No, I mean I I no, I 699 01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:44.119 agree with you. I mean, it's it's one of those things where you 700 01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:49.400 know, that's what his character is, you know, and I genuinely like 701 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.360 the underdog story. I think most people do root for the underdogs, and 702 01:00:53.760 --> 01:00:59.880 Eddie kings Did is an underdog story. You know. Whether whether he does 703 01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:05.239 deserves to win or not, that's up to everybody's interpretation. I'm just saying 704 01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.920 that I do believe. You know, there's a large part of me that 705 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:14.039 believes that this tournament right now is in Eddie Kingston's hands. That's it. 706 01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:19.000 Now that you mentioned that Telson and I thought about the belts that Eddie Kingston 707 01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:24.119 currently has new Japan Pro Wrestling Strong Championship and then also the RH Championship. 708 01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:30.159 I don't know, Like maybe call me craziness is probably stupid thought, but 709 01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:37.880 like, how bit official can this Condental Classic be for r O eight Because 710 01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:42.599 they're gonna it's gonna be a triple crowd champion, So I assume that person 711 01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:47.239 also is gonna defend the belt on RH programming Like no, no, he 712 01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:52.960 won, they won't. Are you sure? I'm sure? I mean literally, 713 01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:58.719 I mean, Eddie Kingston may defend the belt on R O H programming, 714 01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:01.199 but all the other people that are on this list with the shot at 715 01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:08.639 actually winning the belt or the belts, they're gonna be on a w programming. 716 01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:13.880 Okay, where would you put the belt gain, like the tier? 717 01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:22.199 Would it be above TNT and International Championship or below it? That's well, 718 01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:28.880 I personally feel the internet you said between the TNT and the International Championship? 719 01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:32.280 Yeah, where would you ran it? Well? I personally have felt for 720 01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:37.960 months that the International Championship is the least prestigious championship in all of AW. 721 01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:46.199 I just you know, the whole orange cassidy is the AW International champion is 722 01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:52.960 boring to me, It really is. I mean, I'm a firm believer, 723 01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:58.000 even the wrestlers that I like, like the House of Black Julia Hart, 724 01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:01.639 I am a firm believer that that nobody should Roman raids the hell out 725 01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:08.159 of these belts. You know, they need to change hands to keep them 726 01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:14.280 interesting. Jay Cargill was boring to me because she held onto the belt for 727 01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:22.159 too long. Chris Stantlander lost that belt at exactly the right time. The 728 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:30.280 Trios Championship is boring to me right now because it's just stop being defended, 729 01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:35.920 you know, and the Trios there's no trios, teams really waiting in the 730 01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:37.920 wings. They're making them up as they go, and it just doesn't make 731 01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:43.199 any sense to me. But yeah, I mean this Continental Belt, where 732 01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:46.239 does it rank? We'll see who gets you know, I'm just gonna be 733 01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:52.800 honest with you here. If the Continental Belt hangs hangs around the waste of 734 01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:58.519 somebody like John Moxley, swear Strickland, Jay White, for example, Brian 735 01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:02.400 Danielson on Trotty, I'll lead a low. I'm fine with it. I 736 01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:08.159 think that that belt would definitely be above the TNT title. If it's hanging 737 01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:12.920 around the waist of Eddie Kingston, it's just not a good belt. I'm 738 01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:16.199 sorry. That's just the way I feel. Now other people may feel differently, 739 01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:23.239 and I respect that, but for me, Eddie Kingston, just looking 740 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:30.159 at these rosters, these twelve wrestlers, I can honestly say eight of them 741 01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:35.760 are at least seven of them are far and away better wrestlers than Eddie Kingston 742 01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:45.840 and many to other people on the roster. So anyway, that's just my 743 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:50.880 opinion, and I guess on that note, we will just end the show. 744 01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:58.239 This was ignition from aw fan of and I want to thank Sleazy Renee 745 01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:02.440 and a professional did a great hosting job of your segments there, bro, 746 01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:09.400 Thank you so much, appreciate it, and we will see you. I 747 01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:13.159 don't know if we're gonna be here next week. We're smack Dad. Between 748 01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:19.280 Christmas and and uh New Year's, people will be traveling, spending time with 749 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:25.760 their families, maybe getting you know, maybe having to work off the holiday 750 01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.400 meals. You know, that's what I'll be doing. Yeah, probably the 751 01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:33.719 same thing here. I don't think I'll be around for the next episode because 752 01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:41.519 I'll be with my family where I'm at and that makes sense. But and 753 01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:47.079 yeah, also try to get over you know, the last turkey. Yeah, 754 01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:51.519 so we do have right now, We're gonna go ahead and go ahead 755 01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:59.559 with All Eat Talk tomorrow night, right after Dynamite. But if that changes 756 01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:03.639 a change. We are aw fans. We're not set on a schedule. 757 01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:08.199 We do what we do because we like what we do. But we're not 758 01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:14.400 going to force anybody to participate, and that's in stint. Real life comes 759 01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:20.519 first anyway. This is Kelson for aw fan, humb Sleazy Renee the professional, 760 01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:24.920 Thank you once again, and good night everybody.