WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:05.160 Ellie continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on seventy LA Sports. If you weren't 2 00:00:05.160 --> 00:00:12.160 with us during hour one, Victor Brigg may have broken the news as to 3 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:15.839 who sho hey Otani is married to. Now, if you didn't hear that 4 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:20.039 may so you're not all the way and you're seventy percent still well, you 5 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:25.359 know, I just want to confirmed elsewhere besides Vic and one person at Camelback 6 00:00:25.480 --> 00:00:30.559 Ranch who took a video. Yeah, okay, but you know he's listen. 7 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:34.159 He may be on it. He may have nailed this, and if 8 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:37.960 you missed it and is reasoning why you have two choices first, He'll be 9 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.759 back on at too with more information. 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And you know what we 19 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.280 hear from around the world from people that stream the show. Let the people 20 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:21.640 know what they hear. You guys are killing it. Guys are killing it. 21 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.120 That is the word on the street. That's what I hear in the 22 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:30.079 streets. Don't lie. That's right. My ears to the ground, the 23 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:34.359 ground speaks. Come on now, so get the app, get the app, 24 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:38.239 take us wherever you go. Okay, let's bring on now our NBA 25 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:42.439 insider, our good friend Dan Wiki of the Times, and Dan, good 26 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:47.079 afternoon to you gentlemen. How are you guys to the bears? Right? 27 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:49.159 Isn't that what's happening? Well, that's the word on the street. That's 28 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:53.640 the word. That's the word. Dan wicked. But you know these drafts 29 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.680 sometimes anything can happen. It could be a new twist. Let's just get 30 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:04.000 them to the Bears. We understand. Okay. Look, it wasn't easy 31 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:06.879 last night and they played one of the worst teams in the NBA, and 32 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.639 that team looked like they bought their jerseys and Dick's sporting goods. Nonetheless, 33 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:14.719 Wow, nonetheless, I'm sorry they were bad. They were rough, weren't 34 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:17.439 they? Thank you? A bad uniform better a bad uniform, all right, 35 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:21.719 But somehow they figure out a way to win. I got to give 36 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:25.319 him crap because Lebron after the night before should have just been exhausted. And 37 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:29.439 he hung in there and ad hung in there, and you know, at 38 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:31.719 this point, Dan, a win is a win. No. I mean, 39 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:35.240 you're one hundred percent right, And I mean I think like, these 40 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:39.680 are the types of games that unless unless like you're really kind of in the 41 00:02:39.719 --> 00:02:44.639 trenches, it's hard to know exactly how hard they are, just because on 42 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.719 paper it seems like it should have been a walk, and it probably should 43 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:53.800 have been. But you know, trap games are real. And you know, 44 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:59.319 the Lakers expended a lot of emotional energy on Wednesday night against the Clippers, 45 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:01.960 a lot of you know, physical energy, spiritual energy, all that 46 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:07.159 stuff. You turn around, you play again Thursday against you know, one 47 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:12.560 of the worst teams in the NBA, knowing that on Saturday you have kind 48 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:15.159 of your nemesis, the Denver Nuggets, coming too. Right, So it's 49 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:17.680 like sandwich, right, it is like an oriole cookie but in the middle, 50 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:23.560 instead of delicious filling, it is those awful uniforms and Jordan Bull shooting 51 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:29.199 thirty flitters and yeah, your your focus wanes, and you know, watching 52 00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:31.680 the game, like I kept waiting, just for like five minutes of defensive 53 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:36.039 energy. Just find five minutes of defensive energy, Like that's all it was 54 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:40.599 ever gonna take. They never really found it fully. But but look, 55 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:46.120 my uh, my father you said, was saying when I would uh, 56 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:50.240 when I would pop up and travel baseball, you'd say, looks like a 57 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:54.039 line drive in the score book. And uh, it looks like a bull 58 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:58.120 in the scorebook. You know, you got the you got the win, 59 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:01.240 and that's all that matters. That is, that is all all that matters. 60 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:04.080 And and then as we go down the stretch, man, what what 61 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:09.680 is the what is the focus? What is the goal for them going down 62 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:12.759 the stretch? Obviously, yeah, they want to win as much as possible, 63 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:16.160 But is it is it remaining healthy? Is it getting some guys back? 64 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:19.360 I mean, and and you know where are we with Gabe Vincent? 65 00:04:20.720 --> 00:04:24.680 Yeah, so two things. I mean, I think when it come to 66 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:30.600 getting guys back, I would encourage Laker fans to just like not expect much 67 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:33.920 and then that that's not me reporting anything that there's been setback to any of 68 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:38.720 that stuff. That's me saying that the track record of guys who missed sixty 69 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:43.639 games in the NBA season, who you know, the track record guys who 70 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.480 missed sixty games and then have been able to like have like a real sort 71 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:51.120 of like momentum after that is short. That's a short list of guys. 72 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:55.519 So like, I would expect very little on that front, right, Like, 73 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.720 you know, I would try to see if there's you know, you 74 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.680 know, that's why you have centered inity basically at this point, right like, 75 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:06.560 that is why you have him. So I think that to me is 76 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:11.279 kind of I don't have high hopes. And that's not a knock on Gabe 77 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:13.920 Vincent, that's not a knock on terror him, but just being realistic. 78 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.040 Yeah, whoa, what's you got going on there? Danny? Sorry, 79 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:23.399 guys, we got some chaos over here. What's going on in here? 80 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:30.000 Okay, I'll take care of that, guys. Can I tell you guys, 81 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:38.720 that's honestly you don't want to know? I say that very can I 82 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:40.560 can I take guy? Something else? My father used to said to me 83 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:44.279 about sports that I feel like you'll appreciates. He used to. He used 84 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:46.480 to always tell me, he said, Dan, you have deceptive speed. 85 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:49.360 I said, that's nice to me. He goes, yeah, you're slower 86 00:05:49.439 --> 00:06:00.120 than you look, all right, Dan. You know I heard Bill Plaski 87 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:02.680 the other day and he's saying, so the Lakers win a couple of games 88 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:08.399 here, don't get overly excited. They don't have enough juice. But yeah, 89 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.759 I think there's a train of thought. You may have even suggested it. 90 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:15.079 These guys are built for the postseason. Yeah, that's where they're going 91 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:16.720 to be the most dangerous. This is why he doesn't listen to me. 92 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:19.439 He's never he doesn't. He doesn't want to listen to me. And that's 93 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:21.879 fine, you know. You know, look, I mean, what does 94 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:26.639 Bill Plashki? You know, he's been doing this for forty years. Look, 95 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:30.639 I mean I have questions about sort of like the juice to win sixteen 96 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.879 playoff games, you know, like that's a lot. I would not be 97 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:40.240 surprised to see this team win around in the playoffs or maybe multiple rounds. 98 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:45.160 I mean, I think that that is the rhythms and sort of the flow 99 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:50.279 of the postseason is much better for them. You know, limited travel, 100 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:57.360 there's days off, singular focus, you're allowed to to like kind of use 101 00:06:57.399 --> 00:07:01.000 your IQ and different things like that. So those things matter most to the 102 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:04.920 Lakers, I think, like to me, that's what's really important. Hold 103 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:08.800 on my second, guys, fellas, fell us, I'm on the phone. 104 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:15.639 Give me a minute. I'm talking to the people Reality Radio at its 105 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:17.720 finest. Baby, I love you, guy. Guy. Guys, guys, 106 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:23.800 this is a real a real disaster. Tell him, Uncle Rodney says, 107 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:27.720 give us five minutes. Hold us, I mean five minutes, guys. 108 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.759 Well, Dan, instead of telling them me to find out what's wrong. 109 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:33.759 You've got super Okay, guys, he has superpowers. What are your 110 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:39.160 superpowers? Yeah, let's find out what they are. Oh, don't want 111 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:44.800 guys, I can, I can tell you one thousand you again, do 112 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:48.399 not want to. I want to know around the corner, up and down 113 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:53.879 the stairs. Guys, you know the bleach, the bucket and the bleach 114 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:56.600 is coming out after this call, it's gonna be it's gonna be a big 115 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:00.560 afternoon in my house. I think, yeah, I mean, I think 116 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:05.600 the I think the biggest thing, guys for this team is, like you 117 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.000 know, they've been sort of a big game team this year. You you 118 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:13.000 would love for them to be a you know, focused eighty two game juggernaut, 119 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.120 but look, they're best players thirty nine years old. You know, 120 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:20.560 he's done this twenty one times. You're gonna get the best out of him. 121 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:24.800 He's able to pour everything into like the biggest games, you know, 122 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.519 And that's just sort of who they've been this year. They I heard guys 123 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.920 kind of talk about it as far back in like late November, that that's 124 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:35.200 kind of who they thought they'd be. I kind of think that's the identity 125 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.200 right now. And it's not perfect because, look, you might be in 126 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.679 the playing tournament. You asked what the focus is. The focus is to 127 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:43.720 try to get to the sixth seed, right to get out of the play, 128 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:48.000 and that's the goal, right. I think they're three games back if 129 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.240 my uh, I haven't. I haven't really started standing is watching yet, 130 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:56.519 you know, But that's that's kind of where they're where I think they need 131 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.159 to, you know, be focused. But look a lot of teams are 132 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:03.120 there. The top ten West is pretty good, so I look, if 133 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:05.679 they're in the plan, then they're in the play. And I think it's 134 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.399 just like They're a team that's just gonna have to save their best for the 135 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:13.519 biggest games. Let's let's stift over to the Clippers now. And that was 136 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:18.279 a tough one the other night where Lebron caught fire and beat them. Uh, 137 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:20.279 you know, they're they're more up than they're down. They seem to 138 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:24.840 have cooled off a little bit. We still think they've got a good shot 139 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:26.720 to win the West. What do you think? Yeah, I think this 140 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:33.159 is just kind of the sort of malaise that like bona fide contenders occasionally go 141 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:35.840 through it this time of year, you know, where it's just kind of 142 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.279 like, you know, all right, this is sort of like the now 143 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.320 what portion of the season where you're sort of like waiting for the playoffs or 144 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.639 kind of looking at you know, what your team is, you know what 145 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:52.360 you're about, and that's the like you're just kind of waiting. And I 146 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.200 was a little surprised that the Lakers are able to pull that fourth quarter together. 147 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:00.720 I was not surprised that the Clippers were able to to punish them the 148 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.200 way they did in the first three quarters. I thought the Lakers would get 149 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:07.679 their attention. It seemed like they did. Yeah, I mean there were 150 00:10:07.679 --> 00:10:11.360 some organizational issues in that game. I thought for the Clippers, like they 151 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:15.399 seemed a little freaked out in the fourth, which is weird for a team 152 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.039 that I think has been pretty poised for most of the season. I mean, 153 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:20.600 but I'm trying not to read too much into it from them. They 154 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.120 didn't have Paul George, they didn't have a Viacha Zubats. They're playing PJ. 155 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:28.879 Tucker in that game. You know, they're doing a lot of stuff 156 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:31.320 that's not like typically them. I just when I talk to people around the 157 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:33.200 league, I mean, they just look at that team. If Kawhi Leonder 158 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:37.159 and Paul George, James Harden are healthy, like they have so much size, 159 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.360 they have so much firepower. That's another team. When that when the 160 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:43.960 intensity racked us up, and you've got Paul George and Kwhi Leonard like like 161 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:46.559 really locking guys down on the defensive end too. Like, I mean, 162 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:52.600 that's a very scary basketball team. And I mean I think if you pulled 163 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.000 people around the West, you'd get probably fifty to fifty on them in Denver. 164 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:01.360 Just even despite kind of these this last week out of the Ulster break. 165 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:05.279 Now if that week stretches into two, you know, three weeks. 166 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:09.679 You know, maybe there's maybe they're wearing down a little bit. You know, 167 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:11.840 they put a lot in the regular season, more than they're used to. 168 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.159 But I just kind of think this is just a sort of a hiccup. 169 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:22.919 I agree, and we've said that both of us looked at Clippers as 170 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:26.679 nobody really wants to face. They can be a very scary team. Only 171 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:31.039 thing is just like health, they stay healthy. Who do you think gives 172 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:35.799 them give them the toughest matchup of the teams coming into the playoffs that we 173 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.440 know of kind of right now that that would give them the most trouble. 174 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:43.919 I mean, I think, I mean, look, the Lakers have not 175 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:46.360 been a good match for this year, right like the Lakers have beating them 176 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:52.840 three times. You know, I think there that would be an interesting series. 177 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.840 I mean, the home court advantage would at least somewhat be negated because 178 00:11:56.919 --> 00:12:01.440 you have their home court is also the Lakers show in court, and certainly 179 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:05.200 we know what the fan bases are. I mean, I don't think anybody 180 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.519 would want to play Denver, you know, I think it'd be interesting to 181 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:15.440 see them against kind of like a really really fast team like the Thunder maybe, 182 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.679 you know, as a team that I think could give them a little 183 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:22.200 bit of an issue. I feel like they match up pretty well with Minnesota's 184 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:26.240 size. I mean, like I said, Denver's Denver. I mean, 185 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:28.240 we know what Luca does against them, but I still would like them. 186 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:35.200 I would favor them against Dallas, maybe Sacramento, maybe Oklahoma City. I 187 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:37.039 think if I you know, and those are just teams that really get up 188 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:41.720 and down the court, you know, and you just kind of you sort 189 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:46.679 of just test Paul, George Kawhi, Leonard, you know, James, 190 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:52.279 you just test their motors. It's hard to really pick a weakness though. 191 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:54.960 I mean I guess, like you know, age and athleticism would be the 192 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:58.600 weakness of the Clippers. But like typically in the playoffs, like the game 193 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:03.240 slows down anyways. All right, well now so wait, wait, wait, 194 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:05.240 so it's a band. I just wanted to you say, Denver, 195 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:13.600 you don't think Minnesota, Minnesota didn't give them. I mean, I mean, 196 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:16.039 I think, I mean, I think, you know, I mean, 197 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:18.000 you're not wrong, right, I think all these teams are really good, 198 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:22.080 you know. I think we're talking about like margins here and there for 199 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.399 most of these teams. You know, I look at Minnesota as a team 200 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:31.279 that's like a bigger team. You know, the Clippers match up fairly well 201 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.919 with that, you know, like they have in theory the wing size too 202 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:41.759 to credibly guard you know, Anthony Edwards. They could use Terrence Band, 203 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:45.480 they could use Kawhi Leonard, if they had super stretches, they could certainly 204 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:48.159 use Paul George, you know what I mean, you could hie James Harden 205 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:52.000 on Mike Conley a little bit, like they're They're like, you can kind 206 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.559 of get through some of that stuff. I mean, but I don't look 207 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.759 at that matchup and Sale as a slam dunk like I mean, it's gonna 208 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:03.720 be you know, this is gonna be a hard road for anybody in the 209 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:05.320 West. You know, I don't know who has the easy one, right 210 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:07.960 I mean, look, you're gonna if the Lakers stay in the plane, 211 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.519 if the Warriors are in that mix down there with you know who else Sacramento 212 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:16.480 right now? And who am I missing? Is it? Who? I 213 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:18.559 don't even know who the fourth team is that's down there right now. But 214 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:20.879 I mean, like, these these are good teams. These are all teams 215 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:26.000 that are capable of winning a playoffs series certainly, you know, Phoenix. 216 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:30.639 Yeah, I mean, like, would would you be surprised to see Kevin 217 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.799 Durant and Devin Booker win two rounds in the playoffs with Frank Woge on the 218 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:35.320 side, Like, I wouldn't be surprised by that, you know. But 219 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:39.080 I mean, I think the fact that I can say that about eight teams 220 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:43.279 in the West, I think really kind of speaks to you know, how 221 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.799 things like home court advantage and different things like that are really going to matter, 222 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.919 you know, and putting yourself in the best possible position, and that's 223 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.200 you know, I guess would be an advantage of the Clippers ad that the 224 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:58.799 Lakers just don't. All right, Well, now you have worked, attend 225 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:03.360 to Dan. You have things to pick gee, guys, so you get 226 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:07.200 the big rubber gloves out, uh you know, duft uf an old COVID 227 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:11.919 mask and get the work. Well you know he's got superpowers, Okay, 228 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:16.600 yeah, they're super all right, all right, Dan, have a good 229 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:18.399 weekend, guys. Thank you for your patience, everybody, Thank you for 230 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.559 your patience today with me. I apologize for the distractions. All right, 231 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.159 There he goes our buddy Dan White, he's got work to do because his 232 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:30.159 kids have superpowers. What do you think they put them all over the wall? 233 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.639 Don't you think that's what happened. Absolutely, they had some either some 234 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:37.919 pain or some food all over their hands and just having a food fight or 235 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.879 something like that. But that's why they went rayons. Yeah, but that's 236 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:46.559 why they're playing superpowers superpowers, because they're probably throwing baseballs at each other and 237 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:52.879 you know, and footballs and bats, and I'm thinking projectile. I'm thinking 238 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.080 a certain type of projectile, you know. Yeah, but they were they 239 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:00.440 were talking and laughing and screaming too much. I think for them throwing up 240 00:16:00.480 --> 00:16:03.159 all over the walls, maybe you may be right, you know it, 241 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:04.879 maybe some other projectile. That's kind of what I was thinking, you know. 242 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:07.799 And when you have to pull out the bleach to go clean after that, 243 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:11.039 then you know it's something serious. Yeah, yeah, all right. 244 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:15.360 David Bass, by the way, is going to join us at the top 245 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:21.279 of the two o'clock hour. Yes, Kik hear Nanez some interesting comments yesterday. 246 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:26.360 He talked to the media about collusion and why pre agents have not been 247 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.360 signed, why guys are still on the market, and I think we should 248 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:33.639 touch on that next. Yeah, absolutely, but still nonetheless beautiful southern California 249 00:16:33.799 --> 00:16:37.159 day on a Friday with Rogan and Rodney. Come on, y'all, all 250 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:41.320 right? Kei k Hernandez spoke to the media yesterday at Camelback Ranch. Of 251 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:47.120 course, Keik actually announced he had re signed with the Dodgers before the Dodgers 252 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:51.399 announced that Kik had resigned with the Dodgers. Fan favorite wanted to be here, 253 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:55.000 but he talked about what it's been like this offseason for pre agents. 254 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:59.240 Now when we look at the market and you know there are some still out 255 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:03.600 there. Matt Chapman is out there, Montgomery is out there, and Blake 256 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:07.440 Snell, they're all Scott Boris guys. Other guys are still kicking around too. 257 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:12.640 Key k said from the very beginning he didn't have many offers. Now 258 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.039 we know he can play. We also know he's not an All Star, 259 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:22.119 but you would think he would be serviceable somewhere. In all the conversations that 260 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:26.119 they had his representative with clubs when they were talking about the amount of money 261 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:32.319 that was available, almost all of them, he said, indicated, we 262 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:38.119 don't know about our TV deal. We don't know. It's uncertain because cable 263 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:42.799 TV used to be basically a printing press of money for the clubs. Now 264 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:47.440 the Dodgers on a piece of spectrum and the Lakers on a piece of spectrum. 265 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:51.319 They're fine, nothing's going to happen to them. But if you're in 266 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:56.599 the Bally's group, the old Fox Sports group, you're in trouble. Bally's 267 00:17:56.720 --> 00:18:02.440 filed bankruptcy. Some of those teams no longer have TV deals now here in 268 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:04.559 this market. They do, the Kings, the Angels, it's the Clippers, 269 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:10.119 the Ducks, but they may not be paid as much for the rights 270 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:14.279 to their games. And what Keykey Hernandez found out because in other markets around 271 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:21.119 the country they just cut bait. San Diego done, I think Phoenix, 272 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:25.400 Coyotes and Hockey done. So. Now the league is streaming those games, 273 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:32.000 but that doesn't pay what a rights holder used to pay. Therefore, the 274 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:36.920 club has less money to invest, and therefore they're not willing to invest as 275 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:44.440 much, and it's driving salaries down, at least for players that are good 276 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:49.279 but not superstars. Superstars will always get paid. That was one of the 277 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:53.519 things he pointed out. Another thing he suggested. He didn't use the word 278 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:57.079 but he said it's a word that starts with the capital C. Yeah, 279 00:18:57.480 --> 00:19:06.480 collusion. Everybody's kind of getting together and towing the line. And you know, 280 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:08.240 this happened to be in baseball many years ago. Peter you Brov was 281 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:15.079 a commissioner and an arbitrator ruled in favor of the Players Association, not Major 282 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:22.039 League Baseball. Yeah, but he's suggesting there could be some collusion because everybody 283 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:27.519 is just kind of floating around in this kind of mid range salary game. 284 00:19:27.920 --> 00:19:32.440 He signed a one year deal for four million dollars with the Dodgers. I 285 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:34.839 can't tell you if that's good, better and different. I know he would 286 00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:38.920 like more. Four million dollars a lot. We all would. We all 287 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:41.400 want more. And there's a lot of factors, right, we don't know 288 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:48.759 exactly, you know what Kik was was asking for anybody else was really asking 289 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.480 for. I think there's some guys out there that you know, are warranted 290 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.880 big salaries based on the season. They just came off of lakes. Now 291 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:59.640 one of them, you know, just want to say young And you're wondering, 292 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.599 Okay, what is keeping him out there? Is it that he's asking 293 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.880 for so much? Remember there was a time where people were waiting for Yamamono 294 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:11.680 to sign to see where you know, if he set the market at a 295 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.319 different, different level and then and then all the dominoes would start to fall. 296 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:19.839 But yet we still see Montgomery out there and Blake Snell out there and 297 00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:23.119 some other guys. I mean, Cody had to wait until I think the 298 00:20:23.240 --> 00:20:29.160 day before they started playing games with the Cubs before he signed back with them, 299 00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:30.759 and he still didn't get what he wanted out of the deal, and 300 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:36.319 he had a really good year. So you know, I'm not going to 301 00:20:36.359 --> 00:20:40.079 say that it's its collusion going on, but there's you know, probably some 302 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:42.599 sort of holding pattern. And you mentioned, you know, one of the 303 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:47.319 big reasons why with some of these teams is that there they don't know the 304 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:52.000 future of their TV contracts. Well that's the ballgame. See, bands don't 305 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:56.279 understand because it's different here in LA. It's very different here. Probably in 306 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:02.279 New York would degree because the Dodger and the Yankees, of the Cobs, 307 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:06.160 the Red Sox, there are clubs that draw a lot of people and make 308 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:10.640 a lot of money from the gate so which is not all collective money that 309 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:14.279 everybody gets correct their own right. They make a lot of money from the 310 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:18.799 gate. Not everybody does, and more often than not. And I've said 311 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.960 this in the past and some have become upset with me. If you're a 312 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:26.640 sports fan, these are games that you watch, no the reality, and 313 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:30.920 if you're an athlete, you believe these are competitions you try to win. 314 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.839 The truth of the matter is because people get paid. What they do is 315 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:38.559 they are TV shows. They are TV shows. That's what they are. 316 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:45.119 Everything now is constructed for media, be it television, be it streaming. 317 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:52.559 They're shows and the more people that watch the show, the more money the 318 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:59.640 players make. But if somebody doesn't have an agreement, a television agreement to 319 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.440 implement the income, what did Ardie Moreno say. Let's say the Angels are 320 00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:07.039 paid one hundred and twenty million dollars a year by balis right, that's money 321 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:11.480 into their pocket, money they can spend. The Dodgers have their deal with 322 00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:18.359 Spectrum as a joint owner, and they make considerably more per year. The 323 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:22.000 Yankees make considerably more per year. All that money goes to the bottom line. 324 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.799 So now when they're going around to sign people or they get over the 325 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:30.880 tax and they have to spend more, the money sitting there plus you add 326 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:36.359 the gate, plus you add all of the sponsorships inside the stadium, you're 327 00:22:36.359 --> 00:22:38.559 doing okay, So you can afford to go out and spend a lot of 328 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:42.640 money. Where if you are a team that does not have a great TV 329 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:48.680 deal or any TV deal, and you don't have the gait of a major 330 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.000 market team like the Dodgers or Yankees or Cubs Red Sox, you don't have 331 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:56.319 as much money to spend. And I'm not going to spend it. They're 332 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.160 not going to spend it. Because here's why, it's simple business. No 333 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.119 matter what we spend, and no matter how well we do spending it, 334 00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:08.039 we can't make it back. We're overspending what we have. And when that 335 00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:15.559 happens in any business, what's affected. First labor? Right in the media 336 00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:18.359 business, Yeah, labor. Okay, we've got to make some cuts here, 337 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.319 and it'll be people. And we've seen it all right, We've seen 338 00:23:22.400 --> 00:23:30.160 it dramatically lived through a ESPN and I mean laid off thousand people and you 339 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:33.000 know Fox did as well. I mean, it's uh, we're seeing it 340 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:36.000 right in front of our eyes. Where it you know, like you said, 341 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:40.279 it hits labor hard first, right, because that's the big ticket items. 342 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:44.880 And when you start to eliminate labor and your costs, that doesn't mean 343 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:48.160 you won't replace the people you got rid of, but it does mean the 344 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:52.359 new people will make less. And that's kind of how they try to right 345 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:57.880 size things. So if you're a free agent in baseball right now and a 346 00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:02.480 team doesn't know about its team, there's some uncertainty about the revenue it will 347 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:07.119 generate. Okay, will right size this in our own mind. So if 348 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:11.519 you thought it was eight million dollars, you would get we can only pay 349 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:15.400 four. The general manager Ernie Kleiner at Channel seven and never worked for him, 350 00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:18.160 but I knew him, and he told me one of the great lines 351 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:22.039 of all time. I had lunch with him one day, and he said, 352 00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:23.880 when people's contracts they would come up, they would come in and they 353 00:24:23.920 --> 00:24:30.440 would talk to them, and they would to an individual man woman always ask 354 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:34.640 for far more than they were going to make, always ask for far more. 355 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:37.960 And then you know, there would be a bit of a negotiation and 356 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.039 it would come down to exactly what ABC at that time was going to pay. 357 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:45.480 And he said the people would look at him and they would become frustrated, 358 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:49.160 or they would become hurt because he wasn't giving them what they wanted. 359 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:53.119 And he would say the same thing to everybody. It was a great line, 360 00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:00.119 you know, because they're saying, aren't I valuable enough to you? 361 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:07.319 He would say the same thing, Rodney, Rodney, I think you are 362 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.559 one of the most valuable people I've ever met. Yes, but the job 363 00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:18.160 pays this. Oh go to hell. He would always use that line. 364 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:22.640 Listen, I don't know if I've met anybody more special than you. I 365 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.480 don't, because I mean, you're one of a kind. Thank you. 366 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.319 But the job pays this. When it got right down to it, the 367 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:34.240 job pays this. And I think maybe that's what these players are starting to 368 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:40.319 feel too, with this uncertainty of the TV deals. The job pays this, 369 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.400 Yeah, do you want it? And it's crazy because it's not an 370 00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:48.880 exact science either. No, no, And because there'll be years where it's 371 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:56.200 a feeding frenzy and going crazy and the kid that contracts up and he just 372 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.319 you know, hit two to eleven with twenty home runs, yet everybody's clamoring 373 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:04.119 for him and he makes a fortune that year, whereas there'll be a year 374 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:08.279 a guy hits three eleven and h's thirty five home runs and yet he can't 375 00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:11.960 find a team. Well, it just goes in cycles like that, and 376 00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:18.079 it's frustrating for guys that their contract happens to come up, you know, 377 00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:19.559 at the wrong time. I mean, look at football now, they're just 378 00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:23.799 the salary cap just went up for football, right, so now it's like, 379 00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.200 okay, an open season when it hits free agency, baby, bring 380 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:32.240 it on. For people like Chris Jones of the Kansas City Chiefs, right, 381 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.480 it's like, this is a great timing on my part, had a 382 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:37.799 great year, won the Super Bowl, and the salary cap went up. 383 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.880 All good, let's go. Life is always luck and timing, exactly, 384 00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:48.880 exactly, luck and timing and something that we all have to understand wherever we 385 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.759 work in whatever we do in any line or any profession, you know, 386 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:57.720 something right or wrong, good or bad. You're always paid what the market 387 00:26:57.720 --> 00:27:03.759 will bear done. Period. It just there's no two ways about it. 388 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.279 U show Hey Otani didn't work for four million dollars, he got seven hundred 389 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:15.640 million. Kick a Hernandez is not show heo Tani there. I don't know 390 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:22.039 if that's collusion or reality. Yeah, both, No, it's it's it's 391 00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:30.519 reality show. Shoe Tani is probably uh in a short period of time. 392 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.039 I've already made that seven hundred million dollars up. Are pretty close, pretty 393 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:37.400 close for the Dodgers. I mean, just one trip, I can't to 394 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.680 say, a couple couple couple more trips to Japan and sell a few more 395 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.640 jerseys, they'll be right there. Yeah. I didn't mean to vic you. 396 00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:49.480 No, I didn't mean to vic you. David Vance, we'll join 397 00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:55.319 us next hour. Come on, let's keep this thing going on a beautiful 398 00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:57.119 Friday, Fred Rogan, let's go, man, Come on, alright, 399 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:02.559 let's do it. Because of our crazy week we've had with the Dodger games, 400 00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:03.880 we didn't have our weekly chat with a good friend of ours. So 401 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:10.240 we'll do it right now, all right, and now from the court to 402 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.759 the court room with Jacob em Ronnie. Yeah, let's wrap this week up 403 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:18.119 with our buddy, Jacob em Ronnie. Jacob, how are you happy Friday? 404 00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:22.960 Gentlemen? How are you doing well? Jacob? Tasting fantastic as a 405 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.519 proud partner of the Lakers. What'd you think of the last two games Lebron 406 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.799 against the Clippers and last night they had enough gas to make a two in 407 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.240 a row. What a week? What a week? That Clipper game, 408 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:41.359 My god, that was you know, that resurrects your confidence and hope in 409 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:44.559 uh, you know, Laker Nation when you see something like that. I 410 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.799 mean, Lebron looked like you was nineteen, literally put the team on his 411 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.880 back and did what he was supposed to do, and did more than what 412 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:57.880 he was supposed to do. Great passes and great, great shots when it 413 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:00.200 was needed. And then the role players. I mean, you know, 414 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:06.000 no one's talking about that d Low three pointer where he barely even you know, 415 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:07.920 took a second in order to take the shot. That was a great, 416 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.319 great win against the Clippers. I think it was the first time I 417 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.599 don't know, and how many years that we got three out of four. 418 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.599 Yeah, yeah, no, it was a great win. What do you 419 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.680 what do you say to those because there there are haters out there obviously, 420 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.640 and people that just hate on the Lakers, and we'll constantly see, yeah, 421 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:27.359 but Paul George didn't play, Zoo Bost didn't play. They weren't really 422 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:32.960 totally one hundred percent all that kind of stuff. Uh, it still means 423 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:37.920 something. It's still significant at this time of the year. They're all haters, 424 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:40.640 you know, if we would have you know, at the end of 425 00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.319 the day, you got to look at it. We played against Phoenix and 426 00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:48.200 didn't have deal and Phoenix was able to, you know, do what they 427 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.079 were supposed to do. Ultimately, at the end of the day, this 428 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:55.799 is the NBA. You're playing against NBA players. Look at what happened against 429 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.279 Washington, right, we have to go to overtime because you know, you 430 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:03.279 have that hangover from the great game before. I mean, any team can 431 00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.359 get up to win against any team, and you know, Clippers are a 432 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.200 good team, but the Lakers really did a great job that night and that 433 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:12.640 was a big win. You know, we've got what ten out of the 434 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:17.359 next twelve I guess now eight out of the next ten at home. These 435 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:21.000 are big wins that the Lakers have to get in order to get out of 436 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.640 that cellar of eighth, ninth, and tenth and actually, you know, 437 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:27.680 get themselves a nice position for the playoffs. You know, Dan Woiki wrote, 438 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:33.960 I don't think it's an unfair thought here that the regular season is one 439 00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.319 thing. He believes that the Lakers are actually both for the playoffs, and 440 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.240 I've said this from the beginning, get to the tournament, and let's see 441 00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.160 how the Chips fall. And I kind of believe that that. Do they 442 00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.160 have enough gas to get all the way through? I don't know, but 443 00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:53.000 I think they're kind of constructed for the playoffs. Jacob Listen, I think 444 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:56.519 you're right. But you know, there's ways to get into the playoffs. 445 00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:00.920 You know, if you're a sixth or seven seat, you know, or 446 00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.960 even if you get into you know, fifty six or sevens, you don't 447 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.880 have to go through the dangers of a plane. There's no reason for you, 448 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.480 especially a team like this, to have to have extra games if you 449 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.759 can avoid it. I don't think anybody's going to want to play the Clippers. 450 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.119 I also don't think anybody's going to want to play the Warriors. They're 451 00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:19.000 getting hot as well. But ultimately, at the end of the day, 452 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:22.759 I think you got to get in there and if you can avoid the play 453 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:25.440 in so that you can get a little bit of rest, you know, 454 00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:29.680 and go into the playoffs with a lot of energy. You know. I 455 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.640 feel like you can make some noise and that's really all you can ask. 456 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.799 As long as you got Lebron James, you know, you can go to 457 00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:37.599 any game, fifth, sixth, seventh game, and that you know, 458 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.319 you know that he's going to carry it. You know, at this age 459 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.359 he's still really one of the best players in the NBA, and he showed 460 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.960 it the other night. Hey, Jacob, our listeners love when you offer 461 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.400 advice. Let me ask you a question. What does a phrase no recovery, 462 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:56.839 no feming uh And when someone hears that, is that beneficial to them? 463 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.480 Oh? It's absolutely beneficial. It's like literally saying, go to a 464 00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:06.200 restaurant. You don't pay for the food until they bring it for you. 465 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.119 You get to try it, and if you like what you ate, you 466 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.519 pay for it, and if you don't, you know, you can walk 467 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.720 out without paying for it. We all know if you've ever had to deal 468 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:19.440 with attorneys, the legal industry is an industry where you have to pay upfront 469 00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.559 before your attorney does the work. So either you're paying a retainer fee, 470 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:27.920 which is an amount of money that the attorney has to get before he starts 471 00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:31.279 working, or you're paying hourly and at the end of every month you're getting 472 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:36.119 a bill for whatever work was done by your attorney. In you know, 473 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:38.400 personal injury. In the way we do it, you don't pay a penny, 474 00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:43.160 not the first month, not the second month. You don't pay for 475 00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.920 costs, You don't pay for anything out of your pocket. And the only 476 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:50.880 way that you know, my firm gets paid is if we win and get 477 00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.279 a settlement. At that point we get a percentage of what we cover, 478 00:32:54.359 --> 00:33:01.839 which is also great for clients because literally a partner with them in their ups 479 00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:06.799 and downs, you will make sure that you don't leave a penny on the 480 00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:09.559 table for them. But more important than anything else, you're you know, 481 00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.200 you get justice for them, and you're with them throughout. At the end 482 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:15.799 of the day, it's not really about money, it's about their health, 483 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:20.680 and you hould their hand through this and hope they make the best recovery. 484 00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.079 So not you know, when you don't have to pay out of your pocket 485 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:29.079 spread it means that you know, anybody can afford you. You don't have 486 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.359 to have, you know, a bank account, you know with six or 487 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.440 seven figures in in or to hire an attorney. You can be somebody who's 488 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:40.519 even through financial situations and you can still afford somebody who's not charging you. 489 00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:45.880 So it's great for the public because everybody gets to have an attorney to represent 490 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:49.240 them and fight for them so they don't get taken advantage of by the insurance 491 00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.160 company. All right, well, Jacob, great advice. Glad we got 492 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.119 the hook up this week. Make it a great weekend and we'll we'll talk 493 00:33:55.160 --> 00:34:00.279 again next week. Thanks guys, Stay safe if you missed it. Of 494 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:05.200 the show, Vic came on and talked about who he believes through his sources 495 00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:08.119 is Shoheo Tani's wife. Now, Vic will come back this hour with the 496 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:13.199 regular Haiku and give us more information and we'll get off the camel Back ranch 497 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.360 and check in what David Bath say when we come back.