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Talker. Like back damn Cats,
Well, it was disaster in Detroit and

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it is. The Dodgers get walked
off again for the second straight day.

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They take a lead into the bottom
half of the ninth inning, and for

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the second day in a row,
they give up the lead. This time

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it was a three to two Dodgers
lead. Johann Ramirez went back out to

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the ninth after a one two three
eighth inning that included a leadoff single.

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Well got a double play ball to
help him out. He gives up a

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leadoff triple on an O two pitch
to former Dodgers Zach mckinstree, justin Henry

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malloy an RBI single that tied the
game, scoring mckenstree. Back to back

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bunnettempts misplayed by Johann Ramirez, the
Dodger reliever, and he the second one.

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He throws down the third bait line
and the winning run comes in and

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the Tigers will win it four to
three, eight six six nine eight seven

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two five seventy is our telephone number
eight six six nine eight seven two five

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seventy is certainly a lot to get
to. We want to hear from you,

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Dodger fans. I got one line
open if you want to jump on

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board, believe it or not.
After what happened on this three game trip

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in Detroit, the way they lost
in back to back fashions, and the

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way this Dodgers team has played the
last week, I still got one line

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open here on Dodger Talk on five
seventy eight sixty six nine eight seven two

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five seventy. This is a disappointing
way to go into the All Star Break.

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I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. This
is not the way this Dodgers team

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wanted to go into the All Star
break. Now, certainly, having four

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plus days off, a chance to
recharge, get reinvented here as far as

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what they're gonna do with the starting
rotation, and the front office has got

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decisions to make, There's no doubt
about this. This is a Dodger front

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office that between now and the trade
deadline at the end of the month,

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I've got to figure out how to
put together a roster for October. Now,

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With that being said, the Dodgers
have a lot of players on the

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injured list and players that they're gonna
get back here after the All Star break,

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But to me, there's still question
marks about some of those players when

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they come back. Joe Kelly has
made a couple of rehab assignments in a

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ball and Triple A. He's coming
back after the All Star break. But

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what Joe Kelly are we going to
see as far as at the back end

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of that bullpen. Bruce dark graderol
is trending in the right direction to come

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back, probably sometime in August.
It is my guess, purely my guest.

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Michael Grove, we have no idea
what the status is of Michael Grove,

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im it. Shean's done for the
year. Tony Gonsolin's certainly done for

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the year. We find out yesterday
an esophagus injury and surgery for Dustin May

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and Is scare that he had over
the week has now landed him on the

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IL for the rest of this season, and certainly our thoughts are with him

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in his speedy recovery. Ryan Braze
haven't seen him in a while since his

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calf injury. The Dodgers are gonna
get back Clayton Kershaw if everything goes right

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on his next rehab assignment in Oklahoma
City coming up on Friday. They'll get

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him after the All Star break back
in this rotation. But to me,

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you're getting back a veteran Clayton Kershaw
that you don't know what you're gonna get

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out of him. Certainly, you
know what he can do and what he

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has done in his Hall of Fame
career, But now this Clayton Kershaw in

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twenty twenty four, you and I
we both don't know what we're gonna get

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from him when he comes off the
injured list. Walker Buehler, he's off

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in Florida right now, trying to
figure out how to get back to the

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Walker Bueller of old. My point
is oh Yamamoto starting to throw off a

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flat ground. But I mean,
I'm not a doctor. It doesn't sound

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like he's coming back right after the
All Star break. You're probably looking at

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late August. I'm purely guessing there, But based on the way he's got

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to make minor league rehab starts and
revamp himself back up, he's a ways

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off. With that all being said, the Dodgers are getting back Jason Hayward

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as well. They're gonna get back
players to help out this team. Max

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Munsey, I don't know what's happening
with Max. The oblique injury. One

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week it's good, one week he's
regressed. The next week he's taking ground

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balls and he's hitting, and now
he's shut down and not doing baseball activities,

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and the oblique injury is not responding. The oblique injury is not responding.

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If it's not responding in July,
can it respond by August? Will

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it respond by September? At what
point do the Dodgers then say I need

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to find an everyday third baseman because
this platooning with three different guys at third

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base is just not working. Or
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these guys come September and let them
fight it out to see who it's gonna

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be. The rotation needs help.
Tyler Glass now is hurt. I didn't

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even mention Tyler Glass. Now he's
hurt as well. But we'll come back

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with the back stiffness after the All
Star break. Today a prime example of

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the Dodgers team patching together a twenty
seven out game and doing so with a

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guy named Brent Honeywell, who nobody
knew outside of Tyler Glass now. And

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I don't think he's with the team
right now because they were teammates in Tampa

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at one point. Today was a
rough day for the Dodgers' bullpen, but

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a Dodgers' bullpen that has pitched more
innings the last two weeks than Dodger starters,

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more innings pitched by the Dodgers bullpen
combined than Dodger starters. You're asking

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them to do a lot of work
and pick up for the lack of innings

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from your starters. Eventually it's gonna
catch up. And now we find out

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today in the ninth inning, Dave
Roberts saying, well, Alex Vesi was

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getting warm, but he was our
last guy. He was our designated survivor,

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the last guy there for the Dodgers'
bullpen. With not having the availablity

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of Blake trying Daniel Hudson back stiffness, couldn't go to Evan Phillips after he

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threw twenty plus pitches yesterday in the
blown safe. They had nobody left down

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there to pitch outside of Alex Vesia. Now here's my thing about the ninth

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inning, you've got a left tander
of Zach McKinstry. I get Johann Ramirez

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was ahead O two, but he
left a pitch out of the plate for

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a triple. To me, I
would have gone to alex Vesia to start

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the ninth inning, and thinking in
the back of my mind, final game

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before the All Star Break, if
I've literally got nobody else out there,

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then I'll go to Keik in the
tenth We'll take the l But darn it,

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we're gonna go out there and try
to win this in the ninth inning.

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We're gonna go out there and tries
to close the door, send a

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message to my team going into the
post and to the All Star Break that

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we're gonna try to win this game. Now, certainly this doesn't just fall

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on Dave. It's a collaborative effort
here, and he's got a look and

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you know you have to have one
guy down there, I guess. But

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again, my thinking this is just
purely me. That's why I'm not a

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manager of the big leagues. Certainly, not why I'm a pitching coach,

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certainly, not why I'm an a
bench coach. Certainly not why I'm a

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bullpen coach and never will be a
general manager in any of those positions.

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We'll never have that job. But
me lollioled me here, host and Dodger

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talk. I would have gone to
Vessia and said, empty the tank here

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for me. You're not pitching for
another four plus days. Go enjoy Tahoe

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or Cabo or wherever you're going for
your All Star break. But Vesia,

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I need you for the ninth and
if God forbid, the Tigers score run

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tight, we gotta go to extra
innings. Then the Dodgers go to a

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position player. Are they even able
to go to a position player? I

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don't think they could go to a
position player at that game. In a

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tie game night, if you got
nobody available, I guess you can go

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there. But if you got options
you can, Okay, But I'm trying

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to win it in twenty seven ounce
with my best guy out there, Johann

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Ramirez. Nice guy, nice story. But the day before they're the game

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before the All Star break. To
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have gone to Alex Vassi. Again, I don't have all the numbers in

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front of me. I don't have
the percentages, I don't have the spreadsheet.

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I don't have any of that at
my disposal, but I got what

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my eyes are telling me, my
gut's telling me. I would have gone

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to Alex Vesi in the ninth inning. They leave it to Johann Ramirez and

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James Lord. He said it best
on the postgame on Sports in LA.

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The heart rate gets going, the
emotions start taking over. You gotta calm

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down in those situations. You gotta
take deep breaths and get the heart rate

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low, especially when you're fielding ground
balls and you misplay one bunt. Okay,

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regroup first and second. Still nobody
out, tie game, bunt a

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ball to you take your time,
throw to third, get the force out.

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So we're now one out first and
second, and we roll the dice

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again instead rush the throw, hurry
play, throw it down the third base

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line ten feet wide of third base. Run scores. It's just frustrating.

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It's it's certainly frustrating, I know
for you Dodger fans to see what the

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expectations are this Dodgers team and to
see the way this this Dodgers team has

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played the last week or so.
Now there's the other side of this where

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I've got people already sending me text
messages in tweets saying, slow down,

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stop panicking. It's one hundred and
sixty two game season and the Dodgers are

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still in first place. The Dodgers
may either go into the All Star Break

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with a six game lead or a
seven game lead, depending on what the

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Padres and the Diamondbacks do in their
final games before the All Star Break.

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And right now, the Padres are
losing and the Diamondbacks are losing, So

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the Dodgers could remain seven games up
going into the All Star break. And

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so was a Moda put it out. They were what a half game back

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at the All Star break last year, So it could be worse, it

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could be a lot better. But
as the great Mit Cronin says, losers

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talk about winning at halftime, And
right now we're at the halfway point theoretically

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of the season, the All Star
break, and you're whether you're six games

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up or seven games up or a
half game back. All that matters is

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where you are come October and where
you are in the postseason. That's it.

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That's all that matters. So I'm
not gonna panic too much about the

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Dodgers having only a six game lead, or a seven game lead in the

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division, because that's still a big
lead in the NL West with two and

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a half, almost three months to
go in the regular season, and a

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Dodgers team that's gonna get healthy.
But I'm right there with you, I

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see you on a hold. We're
gonna go right to the phones right now.

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I'm with you. This team needs
to figure it out, figure it

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out fast, clean up the defense, and start playing twenty seven outs,

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playing for nine innings because this three
to nothing lead and then operation shutdown offensively

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not able to score runs. Dave
Roberts, you can hear his frustration.

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Had the bases load in the ninth
inning, a one run game and a

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chance to tack on a second run
to make it a little harder for the

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Detroit Tigers, and you can't,
And you strand the bases loaded, and

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you keep it a one run game, you keep the door open, you

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leave it a jar just a little
bit, and the Tigers busted right through

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and win it in a walk off
fashion. Eight six, six, nine,

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eighty seven seventy Andy Lake Elson or
start things off here on this postgame

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Dodger Talk. Going to the All
Star break, Hey Tim, Thanks for

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taking my call. I just want
to talk about number one. That's clear

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to me, honestly, is we
really do need a closer. We need

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to call in and get a closer. Whatever our first move is going to

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be, we need a closer.
Bottom line, we need a closer.

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We can't go to the playoffs with
a super reliever or or or or bringing

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guys in and thinking that they can
pitch the ninth inning and shut it down.

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No, we need a closer.
That's number one. And number two

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is I really believe that these relievers
are pitching today thinking that they got to

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shut it down and then I don't
know. I just think that I've never

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seen this before. I've never seen
us just give up a leader like that

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in the ninth inning and lose the
game and walk off two days in a

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row. So what about me is
go ahead. What concerns me is that

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are they trusting each other? The
offense, the pitchers and all that stuff.

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Are they trusting each other? I
think they do andy. I appreciate

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the phone call. I don't see
any finger pointing. I don't see any

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blaming of one guy here or a
bullpen there, or the lack of scoring

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on a game here. I don't
see that, nor am I hearing that

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at all. This is a team
that is a very professional team, and

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I think realizes they're just in a
rut right now, and I'll get better

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and get healthy and the second half
of the season they'll get off and run

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in on Friday against the Boston Red
Sox. Now, with that being said,

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again, you can't just keep saying
that and see the division lead dwindle

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and dwindle and dwindle and not do
anything about it. If you've got a

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hole in a boat or a hole
in a ship, you got to fix

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it. You can't let the hole
get bigger or more holes start to pop

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up, or what's gonna happen,
and you're gonna sink. You're not gonna

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go anywhere wherever you're at, You're
just gonna stop and go to the bottom.

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Now, if you're the Dodgers,
you've got a six or seven game

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lead, depending on what happens with
the Padres and the Diamondbacks. You don't

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want to see that get down to
four and then three by the next week

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and then go out on the road
and your lead's cut in the half and

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we haven't got to August yet or
the trade deadline, and you start to

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hit the panic button, and then
maybe you start getting some thinking amongst players

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about, hey, something's wrong here. We gotta do this, we gotta

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do that. You don't want it
to get to that point. Now.

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A closer, Yeah, the Dodgers
need a closer. But looking at baseball

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and looking at the standings and looking
about the divisions and who's in and who's

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out, and realistically, who's gonna
be a seller at the deadline. Let's

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look at some of the top relievers, the top closers in baseball. I

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mean it is Kyle Finnegan. Maybe
an opportunity in Washington to go get him.

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Or the Nationals, you know,
realizing that there's no way they are

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going to win the division. You
know, they're out of it six games

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in the wild card race, they
may be sellers. So maybe a Kyle

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Finnigan, the closer in Washington,
who's third in baseball top closer, second

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in the National League behind Hellsley.
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Diego, Yankees, Atlanta, Boston, Well Kenlly Jansen. Kenley Jansen could

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be available. Alexis Diaz in Cincinnati
if the Reds decide they want to become

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sellers. I mean the Reds right
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know, they're not destined to make
the playoffs. Carlos Stevis in Anaheim could

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be available. But then again,
if you're a team that's also looking for

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a closer, the asking price is
going to go up because I've just given

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you three closers. You know what
price is going to take to get a

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Kyle Finnigan. Well, he's one
of the top three closers in baseball the

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first half of the season. He's
got twenty five saves, two for five

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er with a Whip North on one. Is he available at what price?

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Kelly Jansen finally for his contract.
You know the Red Sox are trying to

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unload that contract and get rid of
Kenley. It could be an option.

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Kenley just recently, in a radio
interview or an interview with the podcast,

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said he sees himself closing his career
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would like to do. You know, maybe that's an opportunity. So there'll

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be some closures available at the deadline. I just don't know which direction the

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Dodgers go. Then again, is
that the hole the Dodgers need to close

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up first? Is that the one
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a starting starting pitching more of a
problem for the Dodgers right now? I

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would lean towards starting pitching is priority
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You guys honestly started looking at the
closer spot as well, and that's changed

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for me. I thought starting pitching, bat off the bench, third baseman

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was priority number two, but I'm
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the second need for this Dodgers team. Trey and west La is next up

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on Dodge Talk. Hi, Trey, how you doing? Tim? Hello,

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sir, how you? Thanks for
taking Oh you know you often hear

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from me on bruinstock there. It's
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side. Yeah, definitely listen.
I spoke with Dave yesterday and I said

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what I was witnessing was a near
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being hyperbolic, and perhaps I was, But given the roster, given the

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expectations, I mean, I'm baffled. It's the situational hitting with runners in

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scoring position, sloppy base running.
You know, Rick and Tim, we're

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like we literally threw the game away
today. It's it's really frustrating. You

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know, I don't have much to
offer, but it's unfortunate right now.

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Like you, I agree with you
on the starting pitching. We had the

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same bugaboo from last year. You
know, it's we got guys on the

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shelf. We don't know if they're
coming back. We got some holes to

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fill. You know, your boat
metaphor. I agree with that as well.

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The only thing I can say is, like you said, Coach Mick,

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we're at the halfway point. You
got to take a serious gut check.

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These guys got to rest up and
we got another half of the season

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to play. So I remain optimistic, Dodger blue all the way. Let's

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just go and you know we're gonna
learn from the mistakes and let's be positive

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and finish it out. All right. Appreciate it, Trey, Thanks for

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checking in eight six six nine,
eight seven two five seventy. The Dodger's

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going to have to do something.
The worst thing I think they could happen

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is just to stay pat. And
I know you're getting players back from injuries,

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and you know, the old saying
is like if you get a guy

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back at the All Star break or
the trade deadline from injury. It's like

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making a trade. It's like you
picked up another arm. It's like you

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got a went out and got a
bat by adding this player back to your

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lineup. I understand that, But
we just don't know what kind of arm

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or we're getting back in Clayton Kershaw. Now fingers crossed. We all hope,

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right, we all hope it's the
Clayton Kershaw. It's going to go

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out there and give you six dominating
Indians every five days. You can count

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on him being a stopper. We
hope. We just don't know. That's

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just the reality. You don't know
what's Clayton Kershaw you're gonna get at this

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point in his career. So another
guy that you can count on come October.

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That's what I look at. Who
are your three going into a series

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in October? Right now? Tyler
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stiffness. Gavin Stone and who landon
Ack? James Paxton, Bobby Miller.

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Who's that third starter? Is it
Clayton Kershaw? But just don't know?

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Is it Yamamoto? Don't know?
We just don't know. James North Hollywood's

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next up here on Dodger Talk.
Hi James, how you doing? Good?

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Tim Hey, listen. I agree
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in fact, the starting pitching.
I believe a good motto for life

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is expect the best, but plan
for the worst. And what we've learned

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about baseball the last ten years is
sure we expect that Walker Buehler will come

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back, figure things out in Florida, Bobby Miller will figure out mechanical issues

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and let his stuff play at the
level that we were used to seeing.

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We hope that Yamamoto can't come back
from a rotator cup strain all the way

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through October, and that Kershaw will
give us five innings of two run ball

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every time he takes the mound.
But I don't want to, you know,

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put my eggs in that basket.
So to that point, you got

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to ask yourself, so how do
we get that frontline starter? And in

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my opinion, because a lot of
these guys haven't performed this year, they

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might be tough to move, but
because of their track record, maybe not

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in my mind. Gavin Lux,
James Autman, Key k, Chris Taylor,

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Cavin Vigio, any two of those
five guys, I would, and

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I think we could move for a
frontline starter in addition to one of our

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prospect catchers, you know in triple
A, because they're kind of they're blocked

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by will and we have a lot
of talent there, but you got to

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give to get. And I agree
with you that where we have to get

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the most is we've got to solidify
that starting rotation because all those other guys,

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there's a lot of upside there,
but there's certainly no guarantee, you

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know. Yeah, James appreciate it, well said, I agree with everything

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you said. UH. And as
far as the trade is concerned, what

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is it gonna take to get Kenlly
Jansen from the Boston Red Sox. I

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don't think it's gonna be a heavy
asking price, certainly. I mean,

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you're absorbing the rest of his contract
this year at a couple million dollars,

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I'm assuming, so you're gonna give
up mid level prospect or too, maybe

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somebody at the major league level that's
a guy that can contribute, that's young

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still under his rookie deal, that
you got can control under And the same

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with the UH search for a starter, you know, David Vassa and I

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were talking about this off air,
and he brought it up on air a

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couple of days ago. A deal
to Detroit Tigers, you know, would

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that be a possibility, And what
about a trade to go get that guy

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what's his name, Stuble Scruble,
Stuble Scooble. Yeah, yeah, that

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guy Tark Scruble, the kid from
the Tigers who the Dodgers faced Friday night,

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stud one hundred mile an hour left
handed throwing starter. Go get him

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and by it. At the same
time, take Javier Bias his contract and

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the millions that are still owed to
him. And David Vesi brought the analogy

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of the example of when you went
and got Adrian Gonzalez and that deal with

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Carl Crawford and Josh Beckett. You
had to absorb contracts in order to make

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it and sweeten the pot for the
other team. You had to alleviate some

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of the dead weight, so to
speak, and take that on and just

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wear it. And Javier Bia is
still a good defensive shortstop. Certainly,

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his production offensively is not there at
all, but you would have to take

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on that contract in order to make
a deal for that left handed Or what

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about a trade for Garrett Crochet,
you know that's a possibility. But I

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think he's going to be target number
one from everybody out there. He's a

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former top fifteen pick, still under
control. That's going to cost more.

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So there are options out there,
and I think the Dodgers, I certainly,

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I would hope the Dodge would not
worry about what it's gonna cost to

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go out there and get them.
And I say costs, it's not necessarily

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always money. Costs could be giving
up prospects, and the Dodgers have a

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ton of prospects that they can give
up. Eight six six nine eighty seven,

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two five to seventy will take them
come back. We'll get to all

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your phone calls. If you're on
hold, we're gonna get to you.

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I promise. We're gonna go past
the top of the hour. Even though

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Colin he is not happy about that. We're gonna do it. We're gonna

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bust the top of the hour and
keep taking your phone calls. Eight sixty

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six, nine eighty seven, two
five seventy. Because this is a day

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in which the Dodger fans will certainly
remember yesterday. Yeah, that one's stung

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too. Give it up a five
run lead in the ninth inning, losing

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ten innings. Come back today,
put a three spot on the scoreboard in

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the first and then lose on a
walk off ball thrown away down the third

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base line by Johann Ramirez, and
the Tigers beat the Dodgers today, four

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to three. It's the All Star
break. It's the time to get healthy,

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get right, and hopefully get better
the second half of the season for

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this Dodgers team. Your phone calls
when we come back. Dodgers losing Detroit

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Still nobody out. He goes to
bunch, He bunts it back to Ramirez,

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who throws to thirty, throws it
away and the Tigers are gonna away.

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In Coming in the store is Molloy
and the Dodgers literally throw this one

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away. On a Sunday afternoon,
Dodgers get walked off by the Detroit Tigers.

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Tell me if you heard that one
before. Second day in a row.

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They lose four to three today,
giving him two runs in the ninth

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inning. Johann Ramirez gets tagged with
the loss as the Dodgers drop two of

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three in Detroit. They go one
and five on the road trip, and

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they can lose six to seven going
into the All Star Break. Daniels Jeweler

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Dream. Johan Ramirez was out there
in the ninth inning after getting the eighth

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inning as well. Dave Roberts after
the game said Daniel Hudson was unavailable with

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back stiffness, Evan Phillips Blake trying
it unavailable due to usage, and Alex

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Vessio, who was getting warm,
would have been pitching it for the fourth

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time in five days and wanted to
keep him out of harm's way. Now,

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A lot of pushback on that from
Dodger fans on social media, certainly,

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and wondering, well, if you're
going into the All Star break,

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why not empty the tank so to
speak, going into the All Star break

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with four plus days off for a
lot of these Dodger players outside of the

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six who are going to the All
Star Game, but for the Dodgers' bullpen,

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a chance to have a break,
and why not send it back out

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there to pitch for the fourth time
in five days, the third day in

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a row, or get that usage
up in a game here before the All

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Star Break. The flip side of
that is it's July, and you don't

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want to burn out a picture or
risk an arm injury taxing them here in

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July when you really need them in
September and certainly October eight sixty sixth nine

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eighty seven, two five seventy.
Chris and Mattlibu, thanks for being patient.

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You're on Dodger Talk. How you
doing, Hey, Jim, I

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are you doing? Buddy? It's
Chris and Malibu. Thank Chris. Hey,

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do me a favor. Let me
empty the tank a little bit and

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just get this off of my chest. I thought, I listened to that

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game yesterday and that was like,
to me, embarrassing that they lost.

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But that happens. Then you come
back today and you get three runs in

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the first inning, and then you
cannot score a single run against the Detroit

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Tigers for the rest of the game. After yesterday's debacle. What I'm not

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understanding here, I get it in
the middle of the season. There's a

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lot of seasons ago, a lot
of people coming back from the injured reserve

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list. I just don't get any
urgency from these guys. And I know

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I'm gonna get a lot of pushback
from people. But if it were if

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it was Kurt Gibson's Dodgers, he
would have taken somebody and shook him or

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knocked over water. Somebody needs to
get upset at how they're playing. It

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seems like they take it for granted
that they will come back and win.

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They've been doing this for fifteen years. They've had the best payroll for fifteen

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years, and they have not won
a World Championship with one hundred and sixty

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two games with the best team.
As a guy who was at Game two

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of the twenty seventeen World Series when
I was sitting there watching Kenlly Jansen give

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up four runs. They have not
been the same since they don't have Where's

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where's that Where's that heart? Where's
that anger? Where's the person to shake

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them up? And I kind of
blame this on Dave Roberts is a great

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guy, but he needs to he
needs to get pissed off. Somebody needs

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to take somebody by them, by
the caller and say, listen, we

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have the highest pay roll in the
damn league. Play like it. Okay,

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here's my pushback, Chris, and
I'll let you finish. My guess

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as the response would be, well, we won one hundred plus games all

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these years in a row, and
we don't have a World Series to show

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for it. Why do we need
to go out there and show that fire

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and try to win a game in
July like it's a game in October.

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Went over the course of one sixty
two, which is the greater part of

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this whole season, we're still winning
the division by six or seven games.

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I guess that would be the flip
side of it, is, like,

407
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yeah, winning today and going all
out to win this game and pushing guys

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to the limit. On July fourteenth. You win a game in July,

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but we're playing for the greater good
of a championship in October. And I

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just throw a little bit more in
before he cut me off. But look,

411
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it is July. I know it's
Julian. But every time when we

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get to October, these are games
that you play to win in October,

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and then when we get to October, we flame out because we don't have

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that same heart. We have nothing
to pull from. We don't have anything

415
00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:23.640
to pull from. It's like Clayton
Kershaw and Walker Buehler. They're not coming

416
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:26.680
through that door with the way they
were a couple of years ago. They're

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not coming to save the day.
Man, this is a big problem,

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and it starts at the top.
Andrew Friedman Dave Roberts in the same amount

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of time in three years, the
Lakers have gotten rid of three coaches because

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they're not getting world championships. But
Dave Roberts walks out on the thing every

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year for fifteen years with no world
championship. I've been a Dodger fan for

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forty years, and I'm just frustrated, obviously, And I mean, so

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anyways, That's where I'm at.
By Chris, I appreciate man. Great

424
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.599
to hear you free, you know. For Dave Roberts, the old expression

425
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.160
damned if you do, damned if
you don't, I think is the best

426
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way to describe it. Because this
is a Dodgers team that has fought,

427
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fought, fought to win one hundred
games, fought, fought, fought to

428
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.000
win the division, fought fought,
fought to hold off the Giants, fought,

429
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.960
fought, fought to hold off the
Padres. Have have tried to do

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00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:25.680
their best and win a record amount
of games in the season and make sure

431
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:27.799
they get to the postseason. And
they have done that, and they've they've

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checked off that first box, you
know, a decade in or plus and

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00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:36.680
now and they get to postseason and
certainly they come up short outside of twenty

434
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:41.480
twenty in which they won in Arlington
the World Series Championship. Now, if

435
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:45.000
the Dodgers go out today and Alex
Vessi pitches the ninth inning, and I'm

436
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.519
just playing, you know, Devil's
advocate here, the old damned if you

437
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:51.319
do, damned if you don't.
So if he comes out and tries to

438
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.000
win the game of the ninth inning, Dave Roberts and this coaching staff and

439
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:57.119
this Dodgers team, and somebody gets
hurt and they lose one of these these

440
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.759
relievers for the rest of the season, then it's well, why are you

441
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.039
trying to push here in July when
the goal is October. I mean,

442
00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:08.359
we've learned over the last decade.
Your whole argument of well, this Dodgers

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00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.880
team needs to start, you know, being aggressive during the regular season in

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anticipation for October. I don't know, is a win in July where you

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00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:22.440
come back and you've forced the issue
in a ninth inning in Detroit in the

446
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.359
final game before the All Star Break
worth it when you're looking at the greater

447
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.599
good of one hundred and sixty two
and trying to win a division which you're

448
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.359
six games up or seven games up. I mean, if you're a Dodger

449
00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:33.880
player right now, I'm just being
the human element right now. If you're

450
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a Dodger player, you lost six
of seven going to the All Star Break

451
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.559
and you're hearing what's happening around you, and you're like, well, well,

452
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.039
the end of the ruld is not
here, because we still got a

453
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.440
six or seven game lead in the
division. As bad as we have played

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at losing three straight in Philadelphia,
back to back walk off losses to a

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fourth place team in the Central and
we're still six or seven games up.

456
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I guess it's not that bad,
but still I understand you need to shake

457
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:04.480
things up. You don't want to
come back off of the off the also

458
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.079
break and just say, well,
you know, sky is not falling,

459
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.839
We're okay, and just continue to
play like this. Certainly you can't do

460
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.880
that because that legal dwindle, dwindle, dwindle by the time you look up

461
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.920
in September, Oh what happened.
We're down to a game and a half

462
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:22.799
lead in the division in September fifteenth. That could happen. So I understand

463
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.960
both sides of it. I really
do. It's July. You want to

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00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.839
win every game, but at the
same time, your ultimate goal is October.

465
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So you go out there, you
fight as best you can. You

466
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:36.839
make sure you don't tax guys here
in July and they're not pitching four games

467
00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.160
in five days and doing something they're
not used to and putting extra strain on

468
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:44.440
that arm here in July when you
really need them for October. So again,

469
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.720
I see both sides. I understand
Mike Downey, your next up.

470
00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:52.960
You're on Dodge Talk. I do
a Mike. It's just Frank. Sorry

471
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.480
about that, Frank, go ahead, Yeah, go ahead, Frank.

472
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:59.039
Thanks for taking my thoughts him.
Well. I wanted to talk about the

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bottom of the lineup, but before
that, uh, I want to say

474
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:05.839
Dave Roberts full full the whole world. We all thought vest was coming in

475
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:10.119
and he saw the result. So
I've just wanted to name some players that

476
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:15.599
are just really hurting us. And
this is just my opinion. I'm gonna

477
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:22.759
make it quick. Calvin Bigio defense
dusted, Austen's crueless, Keith Hernandez defense,

478
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:27.759
great offense, offense not the same
player, swings at everything, Calvin

479
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:31.359
looks defense okay, offense inconsistent ever
since he's been a Dodger. Same with

480
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:37.559
me. Joe Vargas, Austin Barnes
defense, great prize, hard to barely

481
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:42.440
hit the boss out of the infield, James Outman defense, great offense,

482
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.519
completely lost. Needs to make an
effort to change and I don't see it.

483
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:51.640
Needs to get option again, And
I just wanted to finally, if

484
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.279
this is what we have and hope
to win it all, it's just not

485
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:59.519
gonna happen. We probably have the
worst probably historical bottom of the lineup in

486
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.720
all of well at least for the
first half. And that's all I've got

487
00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:05.000
answer. Taking my cut team all
right, Frank, appreciate it. Eight

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00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.960
sixty six nine Ken in Newport,
You're next up on Dodge of Talk.

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00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:14.240
Hi, Ken, how you doing? Ay ten? I agree with the

490
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.839
guy prior, but I have a
couple of other comments. We're two and

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00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:23.880
eight in the last ten games.
We're in the single weakest division in baseball.

492
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When you do two and eight and
lose as many games as they have,

493
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.079
they would not be in first place
in any other league other than the

494
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:37.039
one they're in. Now, what's
the problem? Obviously starting pitching being injured

495
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.880
as a problem, Having those third
basement is a problem. Having no real

496
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:45.079
second basement that can hit the ball
as a problem. But I've been doing

497
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:51.160
this. Laskaska hit four years multiplier
that times fifteen. This had been around

498
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:58.000
for a long time, and I
am sorry but putting the same picture in

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00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:04.119
who gave a home run yesterday and
started the collapse and then leaving him in

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And let's not forget the first time
he pitched hit five guys, So there's

501
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:13.639
something not right with him to begin
with, and he makes two errors.

502
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:19.119
Why would you bring him back to
second inning? And to say that everyone's

503
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.519
tired or everyone's in it. You
don't have a game for a week.

504
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:27.199
There's no doublehanders tomorrow. There's going
to be somebody in that bullpen that you

505
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:34.360
could put in because Rameirez has issues
and there are constant issues learning the game

506
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.599
of baseball. And I'm sorry,
I hate to say this, but I've

507
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.519
been watching this in the playoffs.
I've been watching this in a World series,

508
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.719
and there's a lot of those that
were lost by poor decisions by Dave

509
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:51.280
Roberts bringing in the right guy or
leaving the starter in too long. Sorry,

510
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.320
but I'm pretty angry today. I
want to see this. Yeah,

511
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:59.000
I got you can I understand your
frustration. I'm gonna push back a little

512
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bit. I see why he wanted
to get guys rest. I understand that

513
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.519
it's the All Star break, and
it's easy to look at that and say

514
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.960
you got to go into the break
and you know, empty the tank,

515
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:14.760
so to speak, and let these
guys pitch today knowing they'll have four days

516
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.599
off. That's one approach, but
you have to look at their usage so

517
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:21.639
far, and guys who have worked
three days in a row, or for

518
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:22.760
ves you had been four out of
the last five. You have to go

519
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:27.000
back and look at how many you
know, pitches he threw, how taxing

520
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:30.400
he was and during those outings.
And for Vessia, you know he's never

521
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:34.239
going to say no. But if
you're getting the guy warmed up for anticipation

522
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.960
for the tenth inning, bring him
in for the ninth and let him go

523
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.079
out there. Pete Alex Vesia and
go out there and get out. You

524
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.440
know, I like Johann Ramirez,
nice guy, great story as far as

525
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.400
what Dave Roberts did talking him out
in the Mountain Cincinnati and building back his

526
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.559
confidence and getting him back to being
a guy that they can bring out of

527
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.360
the bullpen. But a high leverage
situation like this going into the All Star

528
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.079
break, want to feel good about
yourself, you know, why not go

529
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:04.400
to Vesia. Why not let him
go out there and get the three outs,

530
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.639
and if he gives up the lead
in the ninth inning, hey,

531
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.239
that was our last man standing and
we're going into the break knowing that we're

532
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.480
going to get healthy. You know, that's the move I would have made

533
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.760
I'll go back even earlier in this
game. I would have sent Brent Honeywell

534
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.800
back out there to the fourth inning. He had a one two three first

535
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:24.199
through fourteen pitches. He had a
one to two three second, which he

536
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:30.199
threw nine pitches. He gave up
one hit in a thirteen pitch third inning.

537
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:36.920
That's thirty six pitches. Not a
lot of stress in those three innings.

538
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:38.880
Again, they wanted to get him
around forty forty five pitchers or whatever

539
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:42.400
and get him out of the game. And Dave Roberts didn't know how many

540
00:36:42.400 --> 00:36:45.079
innings they were going to get one, two or three. They got three,

541
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.119
You probably could have gotten four.
If not, then you go to

542
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.440
Ryan Yarborough at a phone call's notice
to come in out of the bullpen.

543
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:55.800
But why not knowing Again, it's
easy to say this now, but I

544
00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:00.440
said it at the time. If
you know you need twenty seven outs somehow,

545
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.639
some way, you got to patch
your way to get there with what

546
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:07.119
you have available in your bullpen,
and you know who's available and who's not

547
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.039
available, You know the usage on
these guys and where you stand as far

548
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.199
as getting to twenty seven outs,
why not try to get another one,

549
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:21.119
two, heck another three outs out
of Brent Honeywell, he's already got you

550
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.639
nine. Let him try to get
to twelve. And then after that reassess

551
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:30.159
Ryan Yarborough comes in and the way
Yarborough's been pitching has not been well.

552
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:36.760
Walk two more today, sixteen walks
in his last eleven appearances. First two

553
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.920
guys reach base in the fourth,
the fifth, and the sixth inning.

554
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:43.360
He's able to get out of it, but his control wasn't there, falling

555
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.880
behind constantly one to zero in the
count too and own the count. Why

556
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:50.280
not leave Brent Honeywell out there?
What do you have to lose it?

557
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.079
Brought him in to help get you
through today. Let him go out there

558
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:59.119
and pitch until he can't anymore or
the situation doesn't warrant it anymore. David

559
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.000
and Westlake next up on Dodgie Talk. Hi, David, Jim, thanks

560
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:06.199
a lot for taking my call.
Man, oh Man, you and a

561
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.079
majority of the callers are just right
on the button, so much smarter than

562
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.039
how Roberts acted today and managed today. I got to tell you, I'm

563
00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:19.119
super angry about the message that he
sent to alex Vessia today. You're just

564
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:22.519
before the All Star break, you
get him hot in the bullpen, and

565
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.679
then you don't use him in the
ninth inning. What kind of message does

566
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.119
that send to alex Vesia. To
me, it says, I don't have

567
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.000
faith in you. I don't believe
that you can get three outs in the

568
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:37.119
ninth inning. So I'm worried about
the tenth inning when we don't have any

569
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.840
pitchers left. That guy has been
lighted out in the ninth inning. He's

570
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:45.960
been great. Give him the ball
to get the last three outs. Don't

571
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:51.239
count on Ramirez, who doesn't teach
the ninth inning, who's never closed the

572
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:54.480
game. It doesn't make any sense, and it's a terrible message to send

573
00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:00.639
to Alex Vessia. And you can
speculate all you want about what this team

574
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.239
is going to be like in the
future, after the All Star break,

575
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:06.800
after the deadline, it doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is that

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00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.400
this guy, Roberts, does not
know how to use his personnel the way

577
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:15.639
he played in the Major League.
He used small ball, he ran the

578
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.880
bases, he sold, he was
a dynamic little player, and yet he

579
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:23.400
does not have the team that understands
how to lay a bunt down. Forget

580
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:28.039
about buns, how to hit a
ground ball to the right side with less

581
00:39:28.039 --> 00:39:34.079
than shoouts for the man on second. I appreciate it yesterday the bun attempt

582
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.320
by Austin Barnes, that to me
is not acceptable, and I know David

583
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:42.639
addressed it and wonder why there wasn't
a better butnt attempt made by Austin Barnes.

584
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.039
Clearly, how is that Dave Roberts
fault? You know you can put

585
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:49.199
the lineup out. Steve Sacks told
me this over and over and continues to

586
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:53.079
always tell me this. The manager
is not the person who takes the blame.

587
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:58.039
You can put somebody out there and
they've got to go out and execute.

588
00:39:58.159 --> 00:40:00.519
That's up to them to do that. Now, if they don't have

589
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.280
the ability to do it, you
find somebody who does have the ability to

590
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:06.519
do it and execute and get the
job done. Certainly, talent is one

591
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:07.960
thing, and there's more talent on
certain teams than on the other and the

592
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:12.280
Dodgers have a lot of talent on
their team. You've got to be able

593
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.119
to execute bunts. You've got to
be able to execute fielding a bunt and

594
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:20.440
throwing to first to get the out
and not bobbling the ball away and having

595
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.440
first and second and then the next
butt attempt you get it, rush to

596
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.679
throw and throw it down the third
baseline and let the winning run come in.

597
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.639
That's not Dave Roberts' fault. Johann
Ramirez has got to execute the plays.

598
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:36.079
A pitcher's got to execute making the
pitches yesterday. Is that Dave Roberts

599
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.559
fault Yesterday? That Evan Phillips give
up the home run? Is that it's

600
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:45.360
Evan Phillips fault for giving up the
pitch and giving up a home run to

601
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.760
lose the game. You can blame
the pitcher or the manager for maybe putting

602
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:53.159
somebody out there that you don't think
is in the right situation. Maybe it's

603
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:57.440
not not the right guy that you
would have put out there. But you

604
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.760
know what, they got more information
we do than we do. They know

605
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.239
their players better than we do,
and the situations they're put in is the

606
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:08.280
ones they feel are the best.
Now, certainly I would have managed a

607
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.079
little differently, but that to me, I'm not the manager of the Dodgers.

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And you know what, Dave made
the decisions he's gonna make. Certainly,

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bringing Brent Honeywell in was a decision
the Dodgers needed to last minute to

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get him through. Today he gave
him three innings. I personally would have

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left him in there. But again, go to Ryan Yarborough, who up

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until the last two weeks has been
really good for this Dodgers team in his

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role, and maybe today was the
day he gives him four plus innings and

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they get out of there with the
win. Unfortunately, today was just another

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day like Ryan Yarwals. Ryan Yarborough
has been having the last two weeks in

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which he struggles to get guys out, struggles to finish off batters, falls

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behind an account, gives up leadoff
singles, lead off walks, and the

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Dodgers struggle eventually give up two runs
and let the Tigers back into this game.

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Now again, I can see where
Dodger fans want to get after Dave

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Roberts. I get that, I
understand it because the manager takes the heat.

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But again, the players have to
execute folks, execute pitches, execute

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bunts, execute fielding cleanly, execute
going hard after a ball in the corner

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and limiting a guy to a double
rather than a triple. Legging out balls

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like they did yesterday, and Rick
Monday talked about guys giving a hard nineties

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and beating out ground balls and putting
the pressure on the defense. That's just

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happening. What happened today The Tigers
put the pressure on the defense to make

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plays and Johann Ramirez could not make
a play twice on bun attempts. Real

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quick, we have to go to
the All Star break with Ezzy? Is

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he how you doing? You gotta
be quick? Is he really need to

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ask me how? I'm dainty?
Day team? I am so firstrated with

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this team, and but you're right, might have to be you hear me.

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It's a way to wait top onth
on Friday, that you know it's

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the team part is not even really. I don't even blame Day this weekend.

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I blame the player. They had
the leader last tea game. They

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blew it. It's the team.
It's a team game. Yeah, I

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know, But I'm telling me they
were just unseparable. And I don't even

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blame if the players need to be
blamed for it, it's totally totally right

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and we're just gonna say that.
So but I when I say it's a

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long season, you guys, I
know it's happened and they make this one

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thing clear. It now week up. It's only four days. Four days

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is an internity in baseball, though
I appreciate it. Is he what are

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you gonna do for the All Star
break? Cabo Hawaii? What are you

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doing? I can't have to work
with that's we got. Thank you?

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Is the good thing is you can
enjoy off night Dodger Talk with Davids Monday,

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Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday to
get you through your All Star break

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and the Dodgers will reconvene on Friday
night. The second half of this season,

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and again it's a second half.
I think of anticipation. How is

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this Dodger team gonna come out in
the second half? What are they gonna

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look like? How are they going
to bounce back? How is this roster

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gonna look like coming out out of
the All Star break? Who are they

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gonna be able to get back to
add to this roster from injuries? And

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at the end of July, what
is this front offic was gonna do to

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make this Dodger team look different going
into the postseason. What additions and subtractions

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could they be making to help this
roster of twenty six come October and the

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playoffs, So a lot of things
will be decided here post All Star break,

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but certainly a time for this team
to rest and get ready and to

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decompress for a lot of these guys
and get ready for the second half push.

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Certainly, you Dodger fans are fired
up, and I love it.

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I absolutely love the passion and the
excitement at times, and certainly the disappointment

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when this Dodger team doesn't play to
their capabilities, and certainly the last two

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days are examples of that. This
last road trip is an example of this

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Dodger team just not playing up to
capabilities. You played a really good Phillies

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team, but you have no business
getting swept like they did in Philadelphia.

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And this Dodgers team is way better
than this team that lost to a three

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in Detroit to the Tigers. Losing
in the fashion they did yesterday doesn't happen

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very often. The numbers are with
the numbers are. And you've heard about

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how many times the Dodgers team had
had when they score first, when they

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have a lead in the ninth inning, they win nine times out of ten,

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and yesterday was that tenth time they
didn't win. And today this is

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a Dodgers team that had a golden
opportunity to come back and win and go

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into the All Star break on a
positive note. And they had every opportunity

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to extend the lead in the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth,

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and certainly the top of the ninth
inning when they had the bases loaded

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and couldn't get across another run to
extend the lead and give themselves a little

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bit more breathing room rather than a
one run lead in the ninth inning.

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And as it is, Johann Ramirez
comes in pitches the eighth, they ask

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him to pitch the ninth with Alex
Vessia getting hot and real quick. With

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Alex Vessia pitching, what happens if
he goes out there in the tenth inning

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and the Dodgers score a run and
the Tigers score a run and you've got

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to go to the eleventh inning.
Is Vessia, who's now pitching for the

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fourth time in five days, able
to give you two days? That's the

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question, you know, you think
about, well, we're saving for extra

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innings. Well, if you don't
have anybody behind them, you better play

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for twenty seven outs, you better
play for only nine. And I think

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that was where the mistake also went. But you know what, the Dodgers

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will get better, they'll get healthy, they'll get right, and they'll enjoy

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their time off and get ready for
the second half of the season. That's

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going to do it for Dodger Talk
again. David vas Day will be with

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you Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Thursday for off Night Dodger Talk. We'll

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be back with you for the next
Dodger game on Friday against the Boston Red

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Sox who come to town. Kiley
Jansen and the Sacks in town to start

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the second half of the season,
the start of a seven game homestand three

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against Boston and three or four against
San Francisco after that. Thanks to Colin

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Ee, thanks to you Dodger fansi
being a part of the show, for

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listening, for podcasting. Enjoy your
rest of your Sunday afternoon, stay cool,

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enjoy your all star break. David
fast Day's back with you tomorrow night,

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Off Night Dotch. You talk so
long, Everybody,

