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When I was at Ohio State Reformatory. So we were on the third story

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and we came around the corner and
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I knew, I knew the problem
was is I knew, and I disregarded

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it. I'm like, something's down
there. It does not want us back

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there. So my friend that I
was with was behind me, and I

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took a couple steps and I was
like, I mean, it was like

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heavy. It was almost like I
was walking against wind, but there was

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no win. We got maybe like
second cell down and something pushed me,

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like physically pushed me, like grab
me by the shoulders. And I turned

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and I was screaming at her.
I'm like, run, run right,

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run and run, like just go, go, go go. This thing

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had me by the shoulders and was
shoving me all the way down. And

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the only thing that keeps you from
a three story drop are like two little

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tiny bars as a little buffer.
That's it, and then it's just a

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three story drop. This is Bigfoot
Crossroads. My name's Matt, and joining

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me is the hostess. I guess
is the correct term of cryptids, creeps,

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and conspiracy. Natasha. Welcome to
my home. Well, thanks for

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having me at your home, your
virtual home. I started noticing you popping

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up on social media everywhere. I'm
glad it's working. It's working. I

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do it all myself. Yeah,
you're the one person that's beat the algorithm

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somehow, somehow. It's called persistence, stubbornness and being Okay, I really

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don't know. I have no idea. I wing it. I have no

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plan. That's usually the best plan. One of the things that I saw

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pop up, and I guess it's
just because we're in the same groups or

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something, was a drawing you did. Oh yeah, yeah, it looked

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like an alien life form of some
kind. Yeah, and it really got

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my attention. So I wanted to
reach out to you and hear about the

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story, and you volunteered to come
on and tell it. So here we

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are, So tell me what happened. Well, so what I find interesting.

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By the way, thank you again
for having me on here, because

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I a lot of times deal more
so with paranormal experiences of the demon ghost

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variety, and I had just been
telling someone that out of all this that

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I had encountered, I hadn't had
any extraterrestrial encounters and story of my life,

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I just should never say anything,
because that's gonna happen. But other

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than you know, I was young, gosh, I don't know, maybe

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nine ten, and I'm from a
small town in southern Indiana. And we

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went up, we went up on
the farm in the back of this pickup.

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Oh my god, I really am
a hillbilly, and we were,

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you know, kids, We were
riding in the bed of the truck.

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We went up on this here.
Oh my gosh, Ibo came up hill,

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up on the heel, my god, and me and my brother were

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in the back, and I remember
looking up, and I don't remember a

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whole lot. I just remember there
were these strangely, it was like three

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lights triangle shape, you know,
typical stuff that you generally hear about.

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And it was way way way off
in the distance. It had nothing to

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do with us, It didn't it
didn't appear that it wanted anything to do

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with us. It was just very
strange to see three lights that were clearly

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not as high as the stars,
but not on the ground, kind of

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hovering above the tree line, and
they did this weird zippity shape thing and

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then poof gone all right. So
I'm a kid, I don't know I

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was like, that was weird.
I asked my brother. I was like,

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did you see that? And he's
like yeah, He's like, what

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is I have no idea? And
then that was that, and I was

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like, well, it wasn't enough
information for me to say one hundred percent

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that I saw something. I don't
know what I saw. Who knows what

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I saw? And I tend to
lean very much so towards the skeptical side

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for everything. QUI questioned everything as
much weird crap that happens to me.

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You would think that I would just
take it for granted, and it just

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I really questioned everything, even the
stuff that I see. And I had

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just talked to somebody about some alien
stuff and made the comment, and I

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went to bed that night, didn't
think anything of it, and I just

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laid down like normal, fall asleep. Well, next thing I know,

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I opened my eyes and I am
not in my bedroom. Wow, there

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was no there was no transport,
there was no I woke up felt something.

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It was literally I was out.
I opened my eyes and I was

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no longer in my nice squashy bed, you know, covered in my pillow

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fort that I sleep in. I
was completely naked on this metal table strapped

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down. I had a strap across
my shoulders, My arms were to my

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side and kind of where like your
crotchbone and like when your arms are down

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your hands, like all of that
was strapped down. I had straps on

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my knees and my ankles like holding
me to the table on my back,

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and I was looking up and it
reminded me kind of almost like when you

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go to the dentist and they moved
that lamp in front of your face to

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see in your mouth to work on
your teeth, and it's really really bright,

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so you can't see any thing around
you because the light is so bright

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in your face. Similar to that, but it was just this very round

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light or lamp or whatever that was
up by my face, so a lot

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of the room I couldn't see because
it was so bright. I could see

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kind of me if I my head
wouldn't move very far. I don't remember

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it really being like it wasn't like
strapped down where I couldn't move at all.

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I could kind of lift it a
little bit, like enough where I

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could look down and see my belly
button, but I couldn't actually lift my

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head all the way off the table. And so I just kind of saw

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what was just directly around me.
And then there was the light and I

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was like, man, that me
and my brain I work in the series,

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and I'm like, damn that that
light's really bright. And at first

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I didn't notice, and I was
like, what where are my clothes?

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Where am I? I didn't notice
anything at first except for, well,

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this is weird. I'm like,
I'm having a really jacked up dream.

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And then something moved out of the
corner, like I saw the corner and

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I d you know, tried to
look over there and right next to the

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lights, so just right outside where
I could get was that thing that I

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drew, only I didn't draw the
whole extend to it, so it was

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obviously I saw more of it.
It was very very tall. I Am

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not going to pretend that I could
judge distance because I can't, but it

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was just really tall, real lanky. But it almost had like a almost

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like he had too many beers,
Like he had a little beer belly,

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but not huge. We're not talking
like eight months pregnant, but we're talking

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like, you know, a bloated
kind of belly. And they were like

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a bluish like bluish color, and
their eyes were black, and their fingers

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had these really long fingers like I
keep, I want to say, kind

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of like et but blue, but
twice as long. I mean, these

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things are like kind of gross.
And I saw one with that weird thrill

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that reminds me of when you get
that scoop in that pumpkin carving kit,

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you know, little orange classic scoops
to get it at the dollar store.

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It kind of if you chopped off
the handle and stuck it to the top

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of like a gray's head. That's
kind of what it looked like. And

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it was looking at me, and
then I noticed that there was another one

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right next to it, and then
I saw it was really close to the

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light, so I couldn't see a
whole lot. So I thought I saw

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maybe like a shoulder and arm of
another one, but it was so close

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to the light that I couldn't actually
see anything because it was right over the

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light, so it was just blinding
me whenever I look. But I saw

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the other two and it just was
really weird because they almost looked like they

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were having a conversation, like their
head like their body language looked like they

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were talking, but nothing was coming
out, but they were clearly communicating with

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each other. Never community kid with
me at all. I mean I was

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in the dark, but it's like
they were talking to each other. And

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then they were looking at me,
and they were and they looked back at

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each other like they were confused,
and then eventually they were like pointing at

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my stomach like they were trying to
figure out what was wrong with me.

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That's pertinent here in a minute,
I'll get to it, but that is

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there's a reason that I think it
all made sense. So they're looking and

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looking looking, and the next thing
I know, it was they stuck there.

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It was almost like their hand like
a tip of their finger. I

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don't know if they were holding something. I didn't get a good view,

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so I don't know if it came
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or they were holding an instrument.
I couldn't get a good look. But

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it was red and it went down
and right above my belly button. I

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have scar that I just got last
year because they took my appendix out and

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it hit almost like they were cutting
my appendix scar open but not my belly

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button. And then it felt like
something was just kind of just I don't

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know how to explain it, except
almost like they were stirring my insides,

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like just kind of swirling them around, and it didn't hurt or anything.

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It just felt really really weird.
And the next thing I know, you

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know, they're looking at each other
again, look like they're talking. They

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look somewhat confused, and they keep
looking down and looking at each other,

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and then eventually they pull the thing
out and they use the same red and

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go over and close the same scar, which my scar is like really dark

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purple, so's like you couldn't even
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to notice if they did anything to
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as soon as they did that,
they kind of looked at each other and

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then it's like one of them put
their hand like on me, like just

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to kind of, I don't like, rest it on me. And then

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next thing I knew, I was
awake. And what was really weird to

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me was when I woke up,
it was so vivid and so real that

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I was immediately questioning what happened.
I'm like, was that real? Was

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that a dream? I've never had
a dream like that before. I do

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have very realistic dreams that sometimes they
do happen. So it was very confusing

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to me because it kind of felt
like one of those types of dreams,

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even though it just seemed really far
fetched to me. But when I woke

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up, my stomach hurt so bad, like my When I say my stomach

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hurt, it wasn't like, oh, I like ate a bad egg.

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It was like my intestine. I
have IDs, and I've not had any

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issues with it for months because I've
been taking medication and you know, watching

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my diet blah blah blah, and
I've not had any issues. But that

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morning I woke up and I felt
like someone had just let Tasmanian devil out

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in my stomach and it was cramping
really bad. And the pertinent information I

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told you if we get to is
I am not a normal thirty someven year

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old lady. I've had a lot
of surgery. I mean a lot,

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like seventeen, so I'm missing virtually
everything. It's anything that you can live

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without. I pretty much don't have. Not only that, but one of

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my surgeries they got rid of my
original belly button, and my belly button

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I have now is fake. They
manufactured me a belly button. Wow.

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Okay, So if we go along
the lines of a typical abduction situation,

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these bastards came and got me.
They were expecting to enter my belly button,

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which was not like any other belly
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Once they finally got into my stomach, my organs to reproduce are gone.

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So I'm wondering, did is that
with the swirling were they looking for

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them right in there? Because you
know, you have to think I'm at

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the time, you know, I'm
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a lot of times they do,
you know, they abduct they either incubated

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baby, stick of baby something about
a baby goes in there but in the

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oven, and then they use you
for that. But nothing, none of

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my equipment would allow them to do
what they wanted to do to me.

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And I'm like, wait a minute. Maybe that's why they were looking at

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each other so confused, because one
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Then they realized that's not right,
something's not right here, like she's

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weird. So they were like,
oh, well, here's this other entry

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way we'll go in, and then
it was like, well, shit,

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where is it? Like, let
me look around, and it's just not

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there. And then they just kind
of tossed me out, I guess because

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they couldn't do anything with me.
And it was just so weird because it

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seemed very realistic. I still close
my eyes, I could still see exactly

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what they looked like. I am
not an artist. I was actually really

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impressed with how well that picture turned
out because I was trying to explain it

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to somebody who does a lot of
alien abduction research, and we were trying

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to figure out if we could determine
what species or something, and they sent

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me They even sent me a poster
with like one hundred and fifty different species

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and then I do any of these
looks and I'm like, none of those

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are it. None of them are
even close to what I saw. So

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we were trying to figure out what
it was, and it just in my

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head, I'm like, was that
real? How do you know if it's

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real? That seemed very real,
and it wouldn't have bothered me. I

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would have chalked it up one thousand
percent to me having a jacked up dream

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had it not been for the fact
that when I woke up, I was

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having physical symptoms that correlated with what
they what I just dreamed about. Yeah,

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stomach hurting and being kind of nauseous
and everything like, it was just

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really weird and that and I just
I had to draw it because I was

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like, man, I need to
know if anyone else has seen it,

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or I'm like, does it even
I mean, because it sounds like a

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stereotypical in me being a skeptic.
To be fair, I love stories.

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I always want to hear everybody's stories
and encounters and all of that. But

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I do try to I'm always the
one that likes to ask questions, poke

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holes and just because I'm curious and
because I had never experienced it before.

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And then all of a sudden,
I get smack in the face and I'm

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like, well, it does seem
for the most part, structurally or procedurally

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like a typical gray abduction, only
they weren't grays and they couldn't finish what

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they need to do to me because
I didn't have the right parts. And

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it did make me kind of,
you know, question that because it was

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so stereotypical. Is it my brain
associating? Maybe I was just thinking about

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alien stuff and maybe that's where the
dream came from. Yeah, I've tried

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to look at it from all kinds
of different perspectives, because it does seem

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it's like every stereotypical you know,
they're probably in their ship talking to each

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other in whatever language they talk,
and they're like, oh, just another

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you know day, no day paradized
gym, Like, let's go down here

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and steal this bitch, and we're
just gonna, you know, pop a

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button, evenstend her back, and
we'll you know, probe whatever. They

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did not probe by the way they
look like. I was like, well,

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what if they did that? And
then it was like, all of

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a sudden, the mission fails.
It's like your delivery boy or something and

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you're delivering a package and you were
given the wrong address or this construction.

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You're like, well, shit,
what do I do now? You're right,

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it sounds like your stereotypical abduction story, at least to my limited knowledge

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on them. But something that stands
out is your drawing. If it were

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just a dream, it's kind of
interesting that the beings you saw were different

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than anything I had seen portrayed before
exactly. See. That's what I was

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kind of wondering because I was trying
to be like, well, if it

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was a run of the mill whatever, Betty and Barney Hill, whatever,

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abduction, I feel like what I
would have been seeing would have been a

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cookie cutter gray. I mean,
aside from and these things weren't even really

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gray. They were blue. They
were blue. The only thing they really

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had common with a gray was their
eyes, and they didn't really have a

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mouth. They had like a little
slip for a mouth, but I couldn't

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really see a nose, so it
was their face looked like a gray as

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far as structurally, but they weren't
the same color, they weren't the same

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height. They had that weird frill. So I was like, that's really

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weird, yeah, for it to
be similar but very different, like very

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very very distinct if you compare the
two. And it was just like that

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that and what I thought was really
odd was so afterwards I was talking to

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somebody about it, like later that
day, and I could close my mind

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and I still can and I'm gonna
probably get to be here in a second,

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but I can close my eyes and
I can still see exactly. I

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could see everything. I could see
them, I could see where I'm at,

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I can see all this stuff,
and whenever I was trying to think

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about it, it was like,
all of a sudden, I almost had

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a panic attack. Like I could
feel my heart rate going up. I

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mean, I have anxiety anyway,
so I know when it's coming on.

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And I just like I felt like
I couldn't breathe. My heart was racing,

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I started to sweat. I was
like, Okay, I'm like if

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that was just a dream, that
should not do that. It was like

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my when I thought about it,
my body was triggering an automatic response of

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how I should have reacted. How
long ago was it? This was just

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like like maybe two weeks ago.
Wow, Like really, this like just

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happened. Yeah, And other than
whenever you're a kid and saw the strange

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lights in the sky, no other
like UFO sidings or anything like that in

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those times, to my knowledge,
there's nothing that I can recall that screams

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alien anything. Like I said,
most of my stuff is pretty it's like

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the paranormal side, uh and some
other weird strange things, but nothing that

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seemed extraterrestrial to me. And even
whenever I saw it when I was a

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kid, it wasn't close like some
people see it and you know it comes

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towards it. No, I mean, this thing had absolutely no interest in

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us at all. It just kind
of zip zip zip, and then took

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off and that was it. And
it never even got close enough for us

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to I couldn't tell you if it
was three individuals, if it was one

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big one with three lights. I
it was so dark and so far away.

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All I could see were the three
lights, and that was it.

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Have you told your brother about this? Uh? No, I have not.

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It would just be interesting to hear, you know, if he's had

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any experiences since you know, deciding
as a child and everything, or yeah,

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because I mean it has to be
some weird. So my brother's always

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lived in More. He's more like
the city boy kind of thing, which

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I mean, I'm in a town, but I'm a pretty small town.

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There's only like twenty three hundred people
here or something in the whole county.

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So so but I am like I
am in town. It's you know,

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well lit, there's lots of houses, but it's nothing near as industrial.

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So I'm like, well, maybe
they if something was to come get me,

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they probably would not think anything about
our little blip on the map.

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But where my brother lives it's at
least ten times the size of where I

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am, so it'd be a lot
harder to be discreet right about where and

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everything. But I, you know, I should, I should ask him

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just to see if he's had anything, because that was just so. But

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my thing was, I don't even
think that two are related because it never

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the original one never got close enough
that I don't even think we knew that

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we were there, to be honest, it didn't. It didn't react in

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a way that made it seem like
it was like fleeing from us, or

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it literally like we just weren't there. Yeah, We're literally in one hundred

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some acres of fields and woods and
this thing was way, way, way

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on the other side. So I
don't even think it would be uh oh,

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it got close enough and it came
back to you for me specifically because

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we had some sort of interaction because
we were so far apart that I don't

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see how that would even be possible. Yeah. I just recently spoke to

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a lady who's also has an abduction
experience, and she's part of the UFO

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community. She speaks at conferences about
it and stuff, and we were talking

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about how it seems like, people
who have these experiences tend to have more

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than one. Yes see, That's
what I thought was interesting because I just

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assumed with me, you know,
I was like, Oh, it's probably

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random or whatever. I was like, man, that was like right before

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this happened, I was talking to
somebody about I'm like, I am thirty

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some years old. If they were
going to take me, they would have

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taken me by now. I was
wrong if that was the case. Again,

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I'm very skeptical because I'm like,
did I just because I have no

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tangible other than the fact that I
was so sick in the area that they

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were screwing around with and their reaction
made so much sense with my anatomical issues.

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I was like, is that Because
people are like, oh, you

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you know, it sounds like an
abduction, I'm like, what was it

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like, I'm like, was I
are you sure? Like I don't even

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know what to call it. I'm
like, I don't know if like with

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it a dream, But I do
know that a lot of people they do

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they come in and it's something whatever
you have, there's something you have or

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these people have that they want.
I don't know what it is, but

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they want it. And so they
might take a person multiple times, and

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then they start taking their kids,
and then they start taking their grandkids,

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and it just kind of whatever is
in their genes is something that these things

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need or want, and so they
just kind of stay with it. Now,

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as far as I know, I
have only gotten one report, very

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vague. I have no details.
I only know that my which actually is

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kind of ironic now that you think
about it, my biological grandmother had told

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someone before she so she died,
she was forty two of cancer, she

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had bone cancer, and she had
told somebody that she had had a UFO

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encounter. That's all I know.
I don't know if she was abducted.

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I don't know if she just saw
it. I don't know anything. But

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ironically, that's the same person I
look like in my family treem, which

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I do find kind of odd.
Yeah, it's like very like to the

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point where when my son was little, like I said, she passed away.

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Obviously, my mom was twelve,
so I wasn't around yet, and

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my mom has this picture of her, like a high school picture of something

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up in the cabinet, and my
son, when he was little, he

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would point at the photo and call
it mommy. Because he thought it was

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me. Oh wow. I mean
that's the thing though, Like you're saying

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you're a skeptical person. I'm a
skeptical person. So where do you draw

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the line at coincidence? Yeah?
I know, RICI and that's why I'm

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like, So what I try to
do is I try to eliminate everything that

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I can. And that's why I'm
trying. I'm like, well, is

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it a coincidence? Like, but
there's this, so I try away all

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the others because on one hand,
I'm like, I was potentially dreaming.

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I was asleep and there was no
recollection. A lot of people remember they

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get whisked away through a window or
being through the ceiling or the wall or

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I didn't have any of that.
There was no to and from. It

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was just boom, I'm there,
boom, I'm back, nothing in between.

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Had I had the equipment necessary for
what they probably wanted to do to

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me, I would then have some
evidence because my husband's thick, so that

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would have been hard to explain.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he had

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alien integnatity. I'm sure he's he
is very anti. He doesn't believe in

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anything. He just calls it all
hocus pocus. Even though I have sick

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the spirits on them twice and they
actually listened and they did some crazy shit

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right in front of his own eyes, and he still doesn't believe it.

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I mean, some people just don't
want to believe it. Yeah, but

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I mean, come on, when
the treadmill turns itself on right in front

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of you and does not turn off
until you unplug it from the wall,

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take a hint and one of them. I mean another thing too, is

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I left for work and he called
me, and he was mad at me

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because he thought that I had brewed
a cup of coffee in the curing machine

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with no cup and just left it
for him to clean up. It makes

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me nauseous, so I hadn't touched
the curing machine in three months. It

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was just I would use it for
hot water for hot coked but that was

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it. And it happened after I
left for work and before he got up,

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so it waited for me to leave
to be like, it's not her.

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She left and it brooded a whole
cup of coffee with no cup,

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all over the counter. And then
I was talking because he's like, oh,

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maybe it's a glitch. I'm like, do you know how the cured

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works. I'm like, one,
you have to turn it on. Then

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you have to lift the lid,
put the lid down with a cup in

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it, and hit the button.
That's an awful lot of movement for a

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technical problem. He's like, oh, it was just maybe a short.

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I was like, really, because
it never happened again, It's just and

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it only happened right after I told
him. I was like, I know

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you're here bother him. He doesn't
believe me, And the next day it

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started happening. So you have spirit
activity in your home. Oh, it's

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anywhere that I am. It just
follows me everywhere. With being so scept

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I really do try to explain everything. Oh. I try to look at

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it from all angles before I try
to make a decision. And even sometimes,

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like even with this, I am
still struggling with myself to be like

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Susie, that was an abduction scenario
right in my head. I'm like,

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I don't know. But again,
if something were to fly off the shelf

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next to me, I'd be like, Oh, it's just a spook.

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It's fine. Like it happens to
me all the time. I'm used to

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it. I'm comfortable with that.
It's been like that since I was a

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kid. It's whatever. But then
the thing that has never happened before happens,

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and then I'm really skeptical about it, and I just think it's really

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kind of weird. I don't understand
why I am like that. I've not

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been put in that situation till obviously
recently, because I feel like I should

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be pretty open to it, because
I mean, that's what I cover,

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right, That's way I talk to
people all the time and all this stuff,

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and I would tell them I have
a really hard time believing it because

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I've never experienced it. Boom,
like a week later, I'm got somebody

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in my belly button I don't or
well, trying to get my belly button.

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But yeah, it's just really difficult
for me to try to figure out

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what it is because I'm trying to
come up with anything. I don't drink,

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I don't do drugs. I mean, well, I take medicine for

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my mental health stuff, but I
don't take anything that could cause any type

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of hallucination or anything it. I
mean, aside from well, something probably

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was poking around in there. I
don't really have a good explanation. I

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mean that's the thing you're going through
all the stereotypical telltale signs or someone who

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had a real experience. Yeah,
and it's just it's just so weird to

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me that my brain's like, but
did you? And I don't know if

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maybe it's just my own bias because
of how media and all of that has

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portrayed people that I'm like, am
I crazy? I can tell you I've

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seen a demon, I've talked to
people that are dead. I've seen people

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that are dead. I interacted them
all the time, and that to me

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does not make me crazy. But
if I say I'm obduct about alien,

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I'm like, oh great, I'm
crazy. Okay, So we got we

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we got to talk about that.
We got to talk about that. Obviously,

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you've apparently had a connection to the
spirit world your entire life apparently,

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Yeah, pretty much. So what
I remember being a kid, and I

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thought it was normal to know.
I just chalked it up to I had

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a really good sense of knowing.
I didn't know how, but I always

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knew when something was wrong. I
always knew when there was someone there,

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as I could feel people whether they're
breathing or not, apparently, and I

410
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:56,960
didn't think anything of When I was
a kid, it was just a weird

411
00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:02,279
thing. And I found out that
apparently I have some sort of impath thing

412
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,799
going on. There's a bunch of
words that people have thrown at me to

413
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,960
explain what I am. I have
not understood most of them because I don't.

414
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,599
I don't know that much about it
to be like, oh, yeah,

415
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,960
like this is what, this is
what I do. I can say

416
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,759
these are things that I do.
I don't know what causes it or why

417
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,279
it. You know, I don't
know why or how or when. I

418
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:27,079
can't control it. I can't just
you know, summon Great Gertrude, you

419
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,640
know, great Aunt Gertrude from the
great Beyond and talk to her. I

420
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,960
don't know how to do any of
that, but I know that they'll talk

421
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,480
to me when I want them to. It was just things where I always

422
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,880
this is a horrible thing. I
can tell people this. Everybody assumes that

423
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:49,559
if you're an impath, that you're
very sensitive to other people's feelings, you're

424
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:56,039
very soft. That is not true. There are I will fess up,

425
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:00,119
there are some of us who don't
realize that it's called an impath. I

426
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:07,440
just know that I know what you
want. I know what I want,

427
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:13,720
and I know how to manipulate you
to get what I want because I could

428
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:15,680
feel whatever it is that you need
and I know how to do it.

429
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,200
I would be like, how did
you know that? How did you?

430
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,880
I'm like, I just know.
I don't know. I just I just

431
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:25,480
know, and I go with it. It goes with my gut, I

432
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:28,680
said. People the time, I
always know, I called my They give

433
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,119
me the willies or they give me
Spidey cents, and people hate it because

434
00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:35,599
you know, even in you know, dating, When I was younger,

435
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:38,440
no one could get anything past me. I would always know. But then

436
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:46,400
when I was about fifteen sixteen,
I went toe to toe with the best

437
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,160
way I could describe it, it
was it was a demon. There was

438
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:54,319
it was not a person. It
was a thing, but it was not

439
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,559
a person. There was no he, there was no she, there was

440
00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:05,640
there was no there weren't any factors
that you could I guess attribute to.

441
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:10,519
So now if something is around me, sometimes I can pick up on like

442
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:14,559
a mental image of what they look
like, or they boy or the girl,

443
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,480
short hair, dark hair, whatever
the case is. I could sometimes

444
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:22,680
picture them and so I know who
I'm talking to at least how to talk

445
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,279
to them, because I know about
you know what age they are and all

446
00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:32,000
that. But this was there was
nothing, There was no it was just

447
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,160
it was a void. It was
almost as if this thing was nothing but

448
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:40,799
a black hole sucking something like.
I don't know if it was energy or

449
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:45,680
what, but it has taken something
from me. And it was a foot

450
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,359
and a half two feet from me, and I was like dead, staring

451
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,519
it down for a good couple of
minutes. I talk about that one of

452
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:57,400
my so if you go it's I
think it's when I was with Travis.

453
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:04,000
I start talking about my first hauntings
in that house, and that's what I'm

454
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,279
talking about. It's I go into
all the details. I think in one

455
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:08,760
of my pictures I drew, I
tried to I tried to draw what I

456
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:14,679
saw. I'm not the best artist, but and that happened. And I

457
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:22,119
don't know if nothing happened to me
to I guess provoke it. It's just

458
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,679
I got in the car and it
was there, and then it disappeared just

459
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,840
out of nowhere. Yeah, that
one showed up maybe four or five months

460
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:37,760
ago, and I hadn't seen it
since I was fifteen and it showed back

461
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,679
up at the house. So it's
been with me this whole time. It

462
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:46,960
just hasn't shown itself until recently.
Whenever there's a spirit around, Let's just

463
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:51,639
say, you like, walk into
a house, what does it feel like

464
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,440
to you? Okay, So the
best way I just call it the willies.

465
00:34:55,519 --> 00:35:00,440
I know that sounds really weird.
It's not very good descriptor, but

466
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:04,119
depending on what it is, you
get all kinds of feelings. Again,

467
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:07,519
with that impath, I think kind
of factors in. I could walk in

468
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,599
and be like, oh, like
there's someone here, but they're cool,

469
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:14,599
like they're chill, they're not gonna
do anything. But I can walk in

470
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,519
and something or something comes in after
we've already been there, and it's like

471
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:27,239
everything. The best way I can
try to explain it is, let's see

472
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,760
here. Imagine you're okay, well, okay, we're gonna we're gonna play

473
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,639
a little make believe for a second. Okay, So assume your cave man,

474
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,480
your mind, you on beeswax,
and you walk out of your little

475
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:45,480
cave and out of you know you, You can feel that it's like that

476
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:52,360
instinctual there's danger nearby, right and
a t rex jumps out of the ok

477
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,559
it doesn't, it's it could jump. It's got long legs. It jumps

478
00:35:55,639 --> 00:36:02,360
out of the trees and is staring
right at you. That feeling of fear

479
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:10,039
when you know, you get the
goosebumps, the hair stands up, and

480
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:17,239
your immediate response is run away as
fast as you can. It is not

481
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:25,880
safe here. That is what you
sometimes get when you've got something negative around.

482
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:32,800
It's very much it's almost uncomfortable.
So either that fear factor. Some

483
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:42,840
of them are let's I've been watching
a lot of Monk on Netflix. Have

484
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,119
you seen that show? Okay,
so Monk is very very very OCD.

485
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:57,039
So if you were Monk and someone
walked in and they had one short sleep,

486
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:00,599
rolled up, one pant leg on
the other side, and half of

487
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:06,639
their buttons were undone, that uncomfortable
feeling until he can fix it and make

488
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,079
it go away, that's squirmy.
You feel like you're just crawling in your

489
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:14,320
skin feeling. You get that too. So sometimes it's just like something's not

490
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,079
right. You just you know that, especially if there's a lot I get

491
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:22,079
that way if there's a lot of
spirits around, because I there's so much

492
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:24,480
going on that, I get a
little overwhelmed and I just get kind of

493
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:28,800
squirmy. But some of them too, Like I said, you walk in

494
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:32,119
and you don't even really have to
to say or do anything. You can

495
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:39,880
know that someone's there and kind of
I don't know if you guys have done

496
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:47,440
this, but we'll go with We'll
go with a parent or a sibling.

497
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:54,079
I guess everybody's got a parent,
right. Uh. So you're in your

498
00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:59,440
room, you're on your phone or
whatever, and you know, just be

499
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:02,039
on your phone. You know it's
past ten o'clock or whatever, shooing,

500
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:09,039
and you can hear your parent coming. You can picture in your mind.

501
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:15,079
You can see whichever parent or sibling
is coming up and down that hallway because

502
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,719
you know them, you can feel
them, you can see them. You

503
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,199
know their footsteps. You know,
you know, maybe dad walks faster than

504
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,000
mom mom. You know, whatever
wears a certain type of shoe. You

505
00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,800
can picture in your head what they
look like. It's similar to that,

506
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:36,199
only I have never met these people, but I still somehow can see.

507
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,719
It's like they let me see them
without actually appearing as an apparition. So

508
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,519
I I almost wonder if maybe it
takes less energy to do that, to

509
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:51,719
communicate that way, to be like, hey, this is me, I'm

510
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,679
talking to you like I'm trying to
talk to you. Uh, this is

511
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,719
what I look like, and all
of that, instead of using all the

512
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,400
energy to actually physically show up.
So sometimes it's like that where you don't

513
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:08,039
even notice anything. You just get
a mental picture and you can be like,

514
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:12,320
oh, okay, so there's a
man in here, and then you

515
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,559
can use your equipment usually to ask
it questions and verify whether you know it's

516
00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:22,599
right or wrong and stuff like that. Some of them, if they're angry,

517
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:30,639
you get angry if they're just because
I know everybody just assumes that they're

518
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:36,960
all very negative spirits, and I
don't believe that. I think sometimes they're

519
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:44,280
just here. Sometimes they're just you
know, hanging out There's it's not like

520
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:50,920
there was some catastrophe that is keeping
them here. I think sometimes it's just

521
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:58,800
maybe that particular person had that extra
energy and so when they passed something almost

522
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:05,039
like there's like an extra something there
that lingers because they had more as they

523
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:08,760
were alive than most people do.
So I think that some of them,

524
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:15,480
you get some emotions, especially if
you're in those residual hauntings where it's kind

525
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:22,000
of on repeat. They're not always
bad. So I've had some people tell

526
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:25,840
me there's like they be at a
wedding ceremony and it's like people get married

527
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,840
and they walk down and then it
starts over, and I mean, that's

528
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:35,400
a happy occasion, so you can
feel joy, you can feel whatever.

529
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,920
But there are obviously also the negative
that happened where the persons stuck there,

530
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,920
probably because they were brutally tortured and
whatever. So I think it's just kind

531
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:51,800
of different. So I don't know
what it feels like when everybody else feels

532
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,880
them. I just know that because
I could feel a lot of what other

533
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,639
people feel. That's what it's like
for me. Me is I just know

534
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:08,159
sometimes if they are a very strong
spirit, my something doesn't go well.

535
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:13,000
I've had this happen a couple times, but not very often. I get

536
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,760
very nauseous when certain ones, Like
I was on a ghost hun at the

537
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:24,000
Ohio State Reformatory and we were doing
a seance in the church and I thought

538
00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:30,280
I was going to blow chunks everywhere
I was, So I was fine.

539
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,800
We started halfway through, I got
super sick, and then it sounded like

540
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,199
something fell in the back of the
room, and as soon as it fell,

541
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:43,719
maybe thirty seconds later, I was
fine. So whatever it was,

542
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,199
it's like I felt it come in. It did its thing, and then

543
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:51,639
when it left, I felt better. I've had some live I've had a

544
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,320
live show where I was on there
live and I'm here in my studio and

545
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,639
I had to leave. I had
to turn it off and leave. I

546
00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:00,639
was so sick. I thought I
was gonna spew everywhere. Something was so

547
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:07,239
negative and it was making me feel
so uncomfortable that I was extremely nauseous.

548
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,280
And when I turned my spirit box
on, it kept saying it was it

549
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,519
was very aggressive. I know exactly
what it was. It was that thing

550
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,800
they think that was sitting with me, the non human buddy over here.

551
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,280
I gotta watch talk about him because
sometimes he likes to bloody my nose to

552
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,639
turn my lights out. So yes, it's happened in a recording before.

553
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:30,960
I had a spontaneous bloody nose in
the middle of recording. As soon as

554
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,800
they started talking about him or it, I just caught him, but it,

555
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,800
uh, it didn't like it,
So my nose started bleeding. And

556
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,159
then I apologized and moved on.
And as soon as I apologize and moved

557
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:44,760
on and stopped bleeding and it was
fine. And then all of my video

558
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,840
content for that episode was erased.
It was just a black screen. How

559
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:55,159
weird. So yeah, yeah,
that one's not very friendly. But that

560
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,920
one, when I put the spear
box on, it was say, you

561
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,760
know, get out, go way
lead. I mean, it was very

562
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,480
very aggressive, like get the hell
out of here. You like, I

563
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:08,679
don't want you here, go away. And I was so sick and I

564
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,400
just and as soon as I left, I closed the door of the studio.

565
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:15,920
As soon as I closed the door, I felt fine. It was

566
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,880
just whatever was in there was it
did not want me in there with it.

567
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:27,320
Have you had other experiences where you've
I guess physically been attacked or whatever.

568
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:34,000
I almost got I almost got murdered
at Ohio State Reformatory. And now

569
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:37,920
my nose has got some blood on
it. That's fantastic. Sorry, dude,

570
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:40,199
moving on, we won't talk about
anymore. When I was at Ohio

571
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,679
State Reformatory, we were up.
If you haven't been there in the middle,

572
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:51,039
so you walk in in the cells
are not like you would see in

573
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,519
something on TV where they're like all
against the wall and blah blah blah.

574
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:58,760
No, it's like a column,
a giant column in the middle of a

575
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:07,440
huge building, and all around the
giant pillar are jail cells, and then

576
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,760
there's staircases that go up the one
side and go around, so you have

577
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:15,440
like one in and one out and
they're just stacked on top of each other.

578
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:19,760
So we were on the third story
and we came around the corner and

579
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,320
I mean, I took one step
and I knew. I knew the problem

580
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:30,400
was is I knew and I disregarded
it. I felt it. I was

581
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,360
like, whoo, Okay, I'm
like, something's down there. It does

582
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,920
not want us back there. But
we were on a ghost hun so what

583
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,719
do you do? You go anyway? Right? So my friend that I

584
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,320
was with was behind me because she
doesn't have anything like she literally takes me

585
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,920
as a radar to just kind of
point me around to see where the spooky

586
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,320
step is. And I took a
couple of steps and I was like,

587
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:52,679
I mean, it was like heavy. It was almost like I was walking

588
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,880
against wind, but there was no
wind. It was really where it was

589
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,079
heavy. It just kind of got
hot, and I mean, I was

590
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:01,599
getting an aw she so I was
like, man, I was like,

591
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:04,000
I don't know. I was like, I don't know if we're gonna make

592
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:08,480
it. We got maybe like second
cell down, and she was probably you

593
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:12,880
know she was obviously she started off
right behind me. As I went,

594
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:16,920
she backed off, so she was
a few feet behind me, and something

595
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,519
pushed me, like physically pushed me, like grabbed me by the shoulders.

596
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,440
And I turned and I was screaming
at her. I'm like, run right

597
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:25,679
right, run run, like just
go, go, go go. This

598
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,920
thing had me by the shoulders and
was shoving me all the way down.

599
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:36,079
And the only thing that keeps you
from a three story drop are like two

600
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,159
little tiny bars as a little buffer. That's it, and then it's just

601
00:45:39,199 --> 00:45:43,480
a three story drop. And it
pushed me all the way the end,

602
00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:45,920
and I hurried up and turned,
and as soon as I turned, it

603
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,440
was like it ran straight through and
then went away. It's just as long

604
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,840
as I was not on the side
of the corridor, it was fine.

605
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,760
So the moment I went to try
to peek again and it started to push

606
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,920
me again, so I we got
the hell out of there. So physically

607
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,719
there's that that was not fun here
at the house I have. My kids

608
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:13,599
like to pull pranks. They're generally
more auditory than physical, but I'm pretty

609
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:20,159
sure one of them was playing with
my feet. My breathing kid is one

610
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:23,119
of five. The rest of them
just it was just horrible. It was

611
00:46:23,159 --> 00:46:28,800
actually very, very horrible experience.
One of them is actually where I had

612
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,880
my first year enough experience, and
so my kids just kind of follow me

613
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:37,440
around everywhere they have since I lost
them. And I was in bed.

614
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:43,599
I had my blankets on, like
I normally do. I have really bad

615
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:46,880
issues sleeping, so I put a
headband on, I put speakers in and

616
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:52,639
I play loop I loop a song
which is rain, and I put the

617
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:59,239
blindfold on so I can't see the
light and I can sleep better, and

618
00:47:00,039 --> 00:47:02,559
my headphones on and I lay You
know in bed. Have you ever been

619
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:08,719
around a little kid, probably around
two to four years old, and they

620
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,960
pretend to tickle you, and they're
like, okay, oh, take go,

621
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:15,480
take go, take on yeah,
and they just kind of like wiggle

622
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:17,519
their fingers even though they're not really
tickling. Okay, that is exactly what

623
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,440
I felt on the bottom of my
feet, and I was like, oh

624
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,079
okay, So I started kicking my
foot around, assuming maybe it was like

625
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:27,400
a cat. I don't know.
Cats don't move like that, but whatever

626
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,960
you again, skeptical. I was
trying to just shake my foot. Soon

627
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,320
as I stopped shaking my foot,
it happens again, and I'm like,

628
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,679
will you stop? And I throw
my headphones off and I look down and

629
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:45,519
there is nothing there. Something was
tickling my feet. I have a man

630
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:52,440
that's kind of a creeper. Uh. And if when you go okay,

631
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,679
so if you go to wake someone
up, but you don't really want to

632
00:47:55,159 --> 00:47:59,039
scare them, and you walk in
and you like put your hand like on

633
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:01,519
their foot, just the them know
that you're there, right like hey,

634
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:07,039
Like okay again, headphones on.
I'm laying to bed. That happens and

635
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:13,679
I'm like, yeah, babe,
what you need nothing. I'm like okay,

636
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,880
So I go back to bed.
Then it's on the back of my

637
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:22,880
ankle and I'm like, yes,
honey, what do you need nothing?

638
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,320
What the hell? So I shook
my foot a little bit, laid back

639
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,360
down. Then it's on like my
calf. It just feels like I feel

640
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,800
like a man's hand on my cap, not squeezing, but just sitting on

641
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,960
them, just like let let me
know that they're there. And I'm like,

642
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,960
babe, what do you need?
And I shake my leg and it

643
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,199
stops, and I'm like, okay, so i'd go back to bed.

644
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:46,599
You think I would have looked at
this point, but I don't, because

645
00:48:46,639 --> 00:48:50,800
apparently I'm an idiot. I just
assumed you with my husband. So then

646
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,800
it goes on the back of my
knee and I'm like, babe, what

647
00:48:55,039 --> 00:49:01,000
do you want? Nothing like,
damn it. So I shake it whatever,

648
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:07,719
and I go back to that.
So then it's like halfway up my

649
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,159
thigh, okay, and I'm in
it. I'm in I'm in a baggy

650
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:15,280
T shirt and a pair of breeches
and that's it. And so I have

651
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,079
this man's hand. So then I'm
like, oh, hey, like maybe

652
00:49:19,159 --> 00:49:21,800
he's you know, he's stelling a
little frisky, right, And I was

653
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:22,920
like, oh, hey, honey, you get and I take my headphones

654
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:30,079
off and there is no one there, but I can feel the hand on

655
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,880
my leg. I was like,
hey, it's still it's I can feel

656
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,480
it there, and I am looking
and there is nothing there. So I

657
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:39,920
was like, you know, alsodden. I started like wiggling around into that

658
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:44,039
and I was like okay. I
was like, that is not okay,

659
00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:49,239
that's not acceptable. Go away and
do not touch me again. And then

660
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,199
it stopped, so I'm like,
okay, cool, and then I just

661
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,559
went to bed because you know,
I have to give this. People touching

662
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:57,440
you is no big deal, but
one of the ones that scared the crap

663
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,599
out of me. It didn't involve
anybody touching me. But as a parent,

664
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,039
if you're a parent out there,
you can relate to this one kind

665
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:10,440
of you're gonna have the holy pants
scared off you, probably because I was

666
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,639
even creeped out and it was my
kids doing it. So again, headphones

667
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:22,880
on, my husband's in bed,
everything's quiet, and I hear mommy on

668
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:30,079
the other side of my door.
And at first I was like did I

669
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:34,320
hear that? I'm like, that
was weird, and I wait a few

670
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,519
minutes because I just thought I was
hallucinating or whatever. I was like,

671
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:37,559
I looked at it. I remember
looking at my phone. It was like

672
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:40,519
two thirty in the morning. That's
like their prime time, they like two

673
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:49,440
o'clock. And then I hear mommy. I'm like, it's like postive headphones,

674
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:52,880
like yeah, bug, I call
my kid. All kind of weird

675
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,039
names like yeah, bug nothing,
I'm like book or do you need something

676
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:00,639
nothing? So then I shake my
husban, but I'm like, did you

677
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,760
hear that? He's like did I
hear what? I'm like, did you

678
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,039
hear somebody call me? Mommy?
It's like I didn't hear anything. Baby's

679
00:51:07,039 --> 00:51:09,119
in your head. Go to bed, okay, So I go back to

680
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:14,840
bed. A few minutes later,
Mommy, I'm like all right. I'm

681
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,280
like bug, I was like,
do you need something nothing? I'm like

682
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,320
okay. Then after like four or
five times of this going around of just

683
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:34,639
like mommy, mommy. The voice
that your kid makes when you have lost

684
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,719
that like like you go down the
other aisle at the grocery store, your

685
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,800
kid can't see you. They think
they have lost you forever. That terror

686
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,559
in their voice when it goes up
a few pitches and kind of like cracks

687
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,239
and they get scared. I hear
that, Mommy on the other side of

688
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,119
my bedroom door, and I have
so many goosebubs just telling you about it.

689
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:58,960
Okay, whoo, that's really weird. And I hear mommy, so,

690
00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:00,639
I mean I it was like reflex
boom. I mean, I am

691
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,960
up. Headband is off and I'm
I'm like, okay, So I'm run

692
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:08,119
to the door because I think my
kid's in trouble. And I opened the

693
00:52:08,159 --> 00:52:15,239
door, nothing is there. Nothing, So it gets better. So I'm

694
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,679
like, Okay, that was really
creepy. But now I've got to go

695
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,840
check on the kid, right,
because now I'm paranoid, right, and

696
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,800
I just feel like I need and
so I start walking towards my son's room

697
00:52:25,639 --> 00:52:30,239
and I have so many goosebounds.
This is so weird. But I start

698
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,800
walking. I take two steps towards
my son's room and all of a sudden,

699
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:43,559
the hair stands up and I realize
one, my son is twelve going

700
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:47,599
through puberty. He sounds like this. He does not sound like Mommy.

701
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:53,320
That's not him, so different tone. Not to mention, my kid is

702
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,079
too cool to call me mommy anymore. I'm just mom. And I realize

703
00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:01,559
this as I'm walking towards his room, and all of a sudden, I

704
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:07,480
kind of slowed down and stopped.
I was like, that's not him.

705
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:12,840
And as soon as I thought that, behind me in my kitchen, you

706
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:20,119
could hear like giggling like gotcha,
mom, I was like, and I

707
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:23,119
was like a turn around a turn, so I turn around. Nothing,

708
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:28,719
there's nothing there. I peek in
on my kid. He saw on logs

709
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,159
clearly never left his bed, didn't
even know I was in there checking on

710
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,800
him. And I was like,
all right, guys. I was like,

711
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,719
you cannot scare me like that.
I was like, I have to

712
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,679
go to bed. I have to
get up early and go to work,

713
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:44,440
so you gotta leave mom alone.
I need to sleep. And then they

714
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,920
were quiet the rest of the night. And then I've been on the couch

715
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:57,400
and it's like you can synth them
and it sounded like someone like a kid

716
00:53:57,559 --> 00:53:59,559
was standing right. I had the
foot, you know, the foot thing

717
00:53:59,639 --> 00:54:02,239
up on the ca ouchrop snooze,
and it sounded like it was standing right

718
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:07,519
next to the foot thing, and
it was like mommy, and it woke

719
00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:12,400
me up, and of course I
look and there's nothing there. And it's

720
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,039
again two thirty of the morning.
They like to wake me up at two

721
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:20,119
in the morning. It's it's actually
And what's funny is is I will try

722
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:23,679
to go to bed and it'll be
like midnight, two o'clock in the morning,

723
00:54:24,159 --> 00:54:29,880
and I'll turn the TV off to
go to bed, and the TV

724
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:31,679
just comes back on. It's like, nope, we're still watching TV.

725
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,199
And like last night, I just
left it on for him because I was

726
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,280
like, there's no point turning it
off and just get turn it back on.

727
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,360
And it's happened to me like three
times this week, like this last

728
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,239
week, like I just get everything
and I turned TV off and I go

729
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,920
to walk in the other room and
TV comes back on. I'm like,

730
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:52,960
okay, fine, I'm coming.
So it's just like pretty constant activity.

731
00:54:54,280 --> 00:55:00,559
I mean, there's sometimes it gets
kind of quiet. Sometimes it especially around

732
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:07,519
birthdays when it's around their birthdays,
things kind of pick up, but it's

733
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:14,639
pretty much. I mean, where's
so when I record, I do video

734
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,840
recordings whenever I do my podcast because
so much weird stuff was happening and I

735
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,800
was like, no one's gonna believe
me. So then I started recording everything

736
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:28,480
and so on my Patreon feed,
I upload all of my video content,

737
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,840
and I mean all of it.
There's no editing, there's no no you

738
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:38,199
get raw video for the whole thing
on there. And I had I usually

739
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:43,440
turn my cat balls on behind me
and they'll be going off like in the

740
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:49,599
middle of episodes and just and they
just hang out and hit the little censor

741
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,599
and I'm like, oh, hey, guys do and and some people they

742
00:55:53,679 --> 00:55:58,559
react more to some people than others. But yeah, it happens. I

743
00:55:58,639 --> 00:56:01,760
mean it's everywhere I go, Like, weird stuff. It happened at my

744
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,119
last job. It would happen,
well, really any job, but it's

745
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:13,360
really anywhere I go. There's always
something happening, to the point where I

746
00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:16,719
notice when it's been a while,
like if things are kind of quiet,

747
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:22,360
it happened so frequently that if it
tapers off for a while, I'm like,

748
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,360
huh, nothing weird's happened for a
while, Wonder what's going on.

749
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,960
I mean, I've talked about it
a few times on the podcast, but

750
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:35,480
you know, I grew up in
a house that had activity, and I

751
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:40,559
still live in that house and it
still has activity. It's definitely not as

752
00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:47,000
frequent or intense as it used to
be. But the television thing is actually

753
00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:52,519
something that I've experienced in the past
couple of years, you know, turning

754
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:54,239
off the TV and walking out of
the room and it comes right back on,

755
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,719
and I'm just like okay, and
it's the same. I've owned the

756
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,400
TV for like years, and like
it never did that before, so what

757
00:57:02,639 --> 00:57:07,119
is it doing? This has been
happening for the last like three weeks,

758
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:12,400
and I've had this TV for three
four years. And sometimes it'll be like

759
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,079
I'll just even I'll just think about
the TV. I'll be like, oh,

760
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,400
I think I'll go to the TV
on and the next thing I know,

761
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,000
I hear music or here's something.
I'm like hello. Because I'm by

762
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:24,320
myself, I'm like a Hello,
who turned the TV on? I wasn't

763
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:29,360
even in the room. I'm like, what the hell's happening? But it

764
00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:31,800
is. It's like sometimes like I'll
field air. I've had things knock on

765
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,599
the wall. Every time I go
in the bathroom, the lights flicker,

766
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,079
well, only one set of lights
flickers, the other one stay on.

767
00:57:38,599 --> 00:57:45,679
So so whenever it's not a spirit
that's directly connected to you, and it's

768
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:52,159
just a stranger. For instance,
not everybody experiences this stuff. You know,

769
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:55,280
there's some people that go through life. You know, like you were

770
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,679
talking about your husband, happened right
in front of them and you know he's

771
00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:07,559
still So do you think it's something
where like the spirits know that you will

772
00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:15,039
notice them one thousand percent, one
thousand percent. I think so when I

773
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:22,679
told you that other people know I
have had someone. I actually was at

774
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:25,280
a ghost hunt at Ashmore States.
I'm not going to mention the guy's name

775
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:30,960
because he was a little bit he
seemed a little bit, uh, stand

776
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:36,000
offish for to talk about it,
but he made some comments and he just

777
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,719
was kind of like, I don't
know if I should talk about it.

778
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,719
I don't know why, but whatever, teach their own. And there were

779
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,559
some ladies there that were in past. I mean I could tell because I

780
00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:52,320
could just tell, uh. And
he he did something that I find very

781
00:58:52,360 --> 00:59:00,440
interesting because I do it people all
the time, so I would I when

782
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,000
I tell people I can do weird
stuff and they don't understand. I try

783
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,000
to explain the best the best I
can. But I'll have them stick their

784
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:08,840
hand out and I'll put my hand
over their hand. I don't touch it,

785
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,679
but I'll put my hand like right
over their hand, and I can

786
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,840
kind of like push like energy and
their hand will get hot and they can

787
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,079
sometimes feel like vibrations from my hand
even though I'm not touching them, like

788
00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:27,639
I can send it. So this
guy gets the two girls it was like

789
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:29,519
a mom and a daughter, and
he was like, oh, he's like

790
00:59:29,639 --> 00:59:31,159
you guys are clearly impassed. He's
like, I could you know, I

791
00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:37,880
can feel it? And he's like, somebody else in here's got something going

792
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,800
on. I'm like, who is
it? So I was like, Eh,

793
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,760
that'd be me because I was like, I don't know exactly what problem

794
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,119
is. But he had me do
it and he was like, oh okay.

795
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:52,360
He's like you're different, and I'm
like, great, that's what you

796
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:59,159
want to hear. And he was
like, I don't know exactly, but

797
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,239
you're definitely different. He's like,
well, you've got some of the energy

798
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,360
that they have to because but you
got some mothers. And he's like,

799
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,440
do you happen to sometimes have this? And this happened. I'm like,

800
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:10,920
how the hell did you know that? I'm like yeah, like all the

801
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,400
time. And he never but he
never explained to me why. He just

802
01:00:15,519 --> 01:00:20,519
could tell that I was different,
which really drives me nuts because I would

803
01:00:20,559 --> 01:00:24,199
love to know. But I think
that whatever that energy is, they see

804
01:00:24,239 --> 01:00:31,320
it. And I think maybe that
that energy and stuff is kind of why

805
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:35,440
I can see them or I could
hear them, and I think the different

806
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,079
types of energy is maybe I don't
know if it's like a translator or it's

807
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:44,480
almost like a you know, night
vision goggles or something. Maybe someone with

808
01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:49,760
one energy can hear them but not
see them. Another energy might be able

809
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,760
to see them but not hear them. Another one might be able to feel

810
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:58,320
them but not do the other ones. And I feel like there's different types

811
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,679
of energy, and I think that
they see that. It's almost like we're

812
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:07,360
a lighthouse and you know, okay, I could see the lighthouse, and

813
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:14,239
that means the lighthouse can see me. So I think some of them come

814
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:20,639
to us because they want to communicate, because it takes less effort and less

815
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:25,960
energy on their behalf to communicate with
somebody who's gonna be easier to communicate with

816
01:01:27,719 --> 01:01:32,760
than to go to someone who has
absolutely they might want with all their mind

817
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,559
to do They want to do it, but they don't know how or they

818
01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:43,280
don't have something that is needed.
Travis's story, when I talk about him,

819
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,880
it was very similar. So he
was communicated with and there was he

820
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:52,679
was a child, his mom was
in the house, he was warned about

821
01:01:52,719 --> 01:02:00,039
a fire in his house by a
spirit and his and he's kind of like

822
01:02:00,119 --> 01:02:02,440
that, like, you know,
kids are more open and all of that.

823
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,679
They didn't talk to the mom to
say, Mom, you know,

824
01:02:07,159 --> 01:02:10,880
lady, go down there and fix
this. They went to him knowing they

825
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,599
could communicate with him. It was
like, hey, there's going to be

826
01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:17,079
a fire. There is a fire, get your mother. So he went

827
01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:22,639
to get his mom to go down
there, and look if they prevented their

828
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:27,400
house being burnt down because he went
to his mom. And I feel like,

829
01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:30,239
to me, that's a good example
because if they could just communicate with

830
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,719
anybody, if they're going to communicate
with somebody, why would they communicate with

831
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,800
somebody that they don't know how they're
going to respond or if they're going to

832
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:45,960
respond, because why waste the energy
on something you're not sure of. It's

833
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:47,199
kind of like me and my husband. There ain't no way in hell they're

834
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:50,440
going to go to him because he's
going to shrug it off anyway because I

835
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:54,280
think it's it's not real, right, But they pester me all the time.

836
01:02:54,719 --> 01:02:58,760
That makes a lot of sense.
I'm trying to figure out if I'm

837
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:04,320
saying an orb or a bug in
my room, it's an orb or a

838
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,519
bug. I am so skeptical on
orbs. To me, every orb is

839
01:03:08,519 --> 01:03:13,039
a piece of dust. It is
not real. I was always the same

840
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:16,719
way until I was coming down my
hallway one night and the light in the

841
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:22,920
living room was off and there's this
tiny, tiny, tiny little dot of

842
01:03:23,079 --> 01:03:30,119
light and I watched it float across
the room and go into the front door.

843
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,159
Okay, so was that an orb
or a fairy? Well? Okay,

844
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:42,800
ooh. You know what's really interesting
to me? Before anything paranormal happened

845
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:49,119
to me, I was obsessed with
fairies. They were real. I tried

846
01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:53,039
to I set traps, I tried
to catch them. I bought all kinds

847
01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:57,079
of stuff, like fairy toys.
I don't know what it was, but

848
01:03:57,159 --> 01:04:00,400
to me, I'm like, I
knew they were real. I knew they

849
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,199
were real. I just couldn't prove
it. And so I spent years as

850
01:04:04,239 --> 01:04:10,800
a kid trying to get evidence against
fairies. I interviewed a guy about bigfoot

851
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,159
and after we were done recording,
and he made me swear that, you

852
01:04:16,239 --> 01:04:20,639
know, I had stopped recording.
He didn't want to recorded. He swears

853
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:27,599
up and down that him and another
guy on a big Foot outing saw a

854
01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:35,800
fairy like yep, I believe that. I think. I think there's what

855
01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:45,719
I struggle with is if so many
of these things people believe in. You

856
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:51,119
can't believe in one without believing in
the other, even if it's not a

857
01:04:51,639 --> 01:04:59,159
tinker Bell. The fact that these
fairies are so ingrained in culture all over

858
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,639
the world for thousands of years,
there's got to be some truth to it.

859
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,239
Well, whenever I say I don't
believe in fairies, I literally mean

860
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,559
I don't believe that there's things like
tinker Bell flying around. Let me let

861
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:19,719
me be specific about that as far
as fairy Laura is concerned. Yeah,

862
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:26,119
I definitely believe there's something to that. You should go listen to my Icelandic

863
01:05:26,159 --> 01:05:36,039
elf sex episode What's Wrong with You? So this woman I had to cover

864
01:05:36,159 --> 01:05:39,880
it. So I actually heard it
on another podcast and I had to dig

865
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:49,760
it and cover it. This woman
wrote a book talking about discussing how she

866
01:05:49,920 --> 01:06:02,000
would frequently have sex with elves and
yeah, it's it's bananas, but yeah,

867
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:06,320
she wrote a whole book on it. It's how to Please Yourself.

868
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:13,079
But the e lf is all cast
it is I should you not? I

869
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:15,519
should you know? Go look at
my posts from the Icelandic lsex because I

870
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:19,440
put a picture of the author on
there too. She even gets into uh

871
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:30,280
like positions, and yeah, I
am not joking one thousand percent. I

872
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:35,599
did the research. I covered it. It was great. I oftentimes talk

873
01:06:35,639 --> 01:06:41,000
about how different people have different limits, that you know, their bar is

874
01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:45,840
at a different position. Yeah,
and my bar is definitely not too.

875
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:53,679
It's just some of this stuff is
so funny. But but yeah, I

876
01:06:53,719 --> 01:06:58,119
mean it's just to me, there's
there's so many Now, some of them

877
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:00,920
are just you know, I'm like, just fun like. But if there's

878
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,000
a lot of information or a lot
of potential sightings of certain things, I'm

879
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:12,679
like, how can you not at
least consider the possibility You've been experiencing this,

880
01:07:13,239 --> 01:07:16,599
you know, crazy stuff your whole
life. Uh, what made you

881
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:25,760
decide to start doing the podcast and
go down that route? Well, a

882
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,840
lot of it, Like I said, a lot of stuff happens. It's

883
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,679
me. It was just like second
nature. I've always been interested in,

884
01:07:32,679 --> 01:07:39,199
which is I I never understood why
I am the black sheep of the family.

885
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:46,440
Uh. And I've always been into
you know, weird creatures and ghosts

886
01:07:46,519 --> 01:07:51,320
and fairies and demons that I've always
been very interested. Not like I had

887
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,400
much of a choice, because it's
pretty much smacking me in the face my

888
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:59,320
whole life. Then whenever I have
my first near death experience, it just

889
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:05,280
got worse. And then someone had
me listen to a podcast and so I

890
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:11,320
listened to it and it was okay. But then I found the christ podcasts

891
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:17,439
and I found them and I started
listening and listening and I could not stop.

892
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:24,239
I mean, I loved it.
I would listen to them, I

893
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:30,720
you know, at work all day
all this stuff, and because they were

894
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:36,800
very they're very down to earth.
They're super nice guys, I mean just

895
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:45,960
absolutely phenomenal and just listening to them
and feeling like you're you're part of the

896
01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:46,680
you know, you're like you're part
of the gang, you know what I

897
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,520
mean. And they have a really
good community and stuff like that that you

898
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,239
know, I talk to people other
people that listen and stuff like that.

899
01:08:55,000 --> 01:09:00,520
And that's what I want for my
podcasts, is I want to so like

900
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,920
I'm part of their Patreon subscribe or
whatever group. Uh. And they have

901
01:09:05,079 --> 01:09:10,239
like their discord so it's like all
of the Patreon subscribers that have full time

902
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:13,279
chat that the guys are always looking
at so you can get a hold of

903
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:15,920
them most of the time. You
know, they'll pop in and chat all

904
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:19,399
the times, like it's just like
the normal people, right, and listening

905
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:25,079
to the things they covered and knowing
how they do it and the things that

906
01:09:25,159 --> 01:09:29,159
I enjoy, I was like,
you know what, I think I can

907
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:32,319
do this. I was just listening
to them, and I don't know what

908
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:34,840
it was, but something about them
just made me just be like, you

909
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:40,479
know what, I think I would
enjoy that, because to me, it

910
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:45,319
is so hard. I again,
I'm in a small town in the Midwest.

911
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:53,279
There is no one ever in my
life that I have met that likes

912
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:57,960
this stuff besides me. Until I
started listening and I became part of their

913
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,920
Patreon community, and then I got
to meet and once I got into the

914
01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:05,039
you know, the researching and the
conventions and all that, I was meeting

915
01:10:05,159 --> 01:10:11,880
other people where for the first time
in my life, I did not feel

916
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:17,720
like an outsider. I actually felt
like there are people out here like me.

917
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:26,479
I'm not crazy. These other people
they believe me. They don't just

918
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:30,000
want to ship me off to the
looney bin because I hear things or I

919
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:33,159
see things, or I could tell
you within forty eight hours if you're gonna

920
01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:40,479
die like They don't make me feel
so judged. And they were very open

921
01:10:41,239 --> 01:10:47,319
and I just I feel like I
need that or I'm gonna go crazy.

922
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:57,119
I mean, being the only one
in that willhouse like it's being a black

923
01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:01,800
sheep is very crap. Because I
am generally a social person. I like

924
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,960
talking to people, I love meeting
people, I like learning new things.

925
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:13,039
I'm always curious, and it's always
been a bad thing. But when I

926
01:11:13,119 --> 01:11:17,600
went to my first convention, it
was like I landed and I was in

927
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:26,840
a giant flock of black sheep that
just were like everyone was so nice,

928
01:11:27,279 --> 01:11:30,000
like the community. They're like,
oh yeah, come in like whatever,

929
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:31,920
Like yeah, let's go have some
drinks or let's hang out or have dinner.

930
01:11:32,039 --> 01:11:34,760
How's it go? And sit in
chat like shake your hand like they

931
01:11:35,319 --> 01:11:43,680
Everyone there welcomed me like I had
been there for years. Everybody was so

932
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,840
awesome, and like getting on the
social media, I met a lot of

933
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:50,079
people. It's just like I could
always call and you know, I've been

934
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:55,520
out of work, but I make
these little guys that I have all over

935
01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:01,279
my studio and I'm actually really really
excited. So my first puppy got delivered

936
01:12:01,359 --> 01:12:05,920
this morning to another podcaster that I'm
in. We have a group of podcasts

937
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,680
that all work together. We share
each other's trailers and and all that.

938
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,279
And they came together and almost all
of them bought something from me because they

939
01:12:14,359 --> 01:12:17,319
knew that I was out of work, and they have them all up in

940
01:12:17,359 --> 01:12:20,279
their studios and stuff that's there.
They're fantastic. I love them all.

941
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,520
I would name them, but there's
like thirty of them, so I can't

942
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:28,239
remember. But I don't want to
get upset. But I do little episodes

943
01:12:28,359 --> 01:12:30,439
like go short ones where I just
put I read my reviews, I read

944
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,319
my paper, or do a shout
out to my patrons, and then I

945
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:38,520
put trailers at the end so that
you guys can have, you know,

946
01:12:39,119 --> 01:12:43,560
an idea of other podcasts that are
similar to mine. But yeah, so

947
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,199
they go on up anyway. So
one of the guys got a pair of

948
01:12:45,239 --> 01:12:48,760
puppy that I custom made for him. Some of it is huge. It's

949
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:53,640
like two foot tall when you stretch
him out and it sits, and it's

950
01:12:53,720 --> 01:13:00,159
his logos colors. I made him
custom colors, and it's got a pocket

951
01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:02,720
in the mouth where you can put
a cat ball for a sensor, and

952
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:08,359
then I built in there's option where
you can build in pockets in the paws

953
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:13,239
so you can add more sensors to
it if you want. And he just

954
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:16,079
got his and he's gonna take it
when he does his ghost hunt at the

955
01:13:16,119 --> 01:13:21,319
Conjuring House. Oh wow, And
I am so excited because I'm just it

956
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:28,880
makes me very I'm very proud that
I could have something out there that's doing

957
01:13:29,039 --> 01:13:30,800
something. You know, I don't
know. I don't know how to explain

958
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,960
it. It's just like a piece
of me that goes out and it's just

959
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:40,800
it's just really awesome because everybody you
know has been very open and it's just

960
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:45,680
been it's been awesome for people who
are listening that don't have any idea what

961
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:50,039
you're talking about. Explain to them, you know, what you're actually talking

962
01:13:50,079 --> 01:13:55,279
about with the pair of puppy for
instance, and what oh oh sorry,

963
01:13:56,279 --> 01:14:01,760
Okay. So I handmade a bunch
of stuff, all kinds of critters.

964
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,640
I actually have some that I haven't
even listed yet. But I crochet like

965
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:11,600
a little lady in my haunted house
because I was like, oh, I

966
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:16,640
wonder if that would help, you
know, add to some activity. But

967
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:21,680
I do everything. I've got three
different sized ghosts that I make. I've

968
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,439
got bigfoots that I make. I've
got two sizes. I got a big

969
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:28,600
at a small moth man. I've
got a big at a small nessy and

970
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,600
they're all and I got aliens,
I got gray, I got green,

971
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,800
I got big and small. I
even have a Fresno nightcrawler that I make

972
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,960
and I crushed them all stuff them
so they're just like school stuffed animals.

973
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:45,399
And then I just made a chupacabra, the reptilian kind, not the mangee

974
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:51,159
dog kind. And I just made
a little centaur last night. And they're

975
01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:59,199
all stuffed and all of that.
But Parapuppy is a little special. I

976
01:14:59,359 --> 01:15:00,079
got the idea. I'm not gonna
lie. I didn't come up with the

977
01:15:00,119 --> 01:15:05,520
idea all by myself. Well it
kind of did, but I googled to

978
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:09,800
make sure I didn't want to make
anything, you know what I mean that,

979
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:13,920
And I google everything to try to
find a price, because I try

980
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,119
to find do a bunch of research, try to figure out is there anything

981
01:15:16,239 --> 01:15:19,359
like this out there? If so, what do they cost? What is

982
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,960
so I try to factor all that
into price buying on my store. So

983
01:15:24,039 --> 01:15:27,960
when you talk about this, because
a lot of people make comments about the

984
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,199
prices, but I'm like, well, just for pair of Puppy takes me

985
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:38,399
almost thirty hours to make. So
whatever you make at your job, do

986
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,760
that for thirty hours to tell me
how much money you make, so I

987
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:45,880
don't think my price is actually too
bad. Also with para Puppy, I

988
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:51,039
put a little bit of a homemade
twist on something that so I get on

989
01:15:51,159 --> 01:15:59,119
my ghostting equipment from ghost Stop,
and ghost Stop has a thing called a

990
01:15:59,279 --> 01:16:02,960
Boo Buddy, and a Boo Buddy
is an eight inch tall stuffed bear,

991
01:16:03,199 --> 01:16:06,960
just like a regular stuffed animal that
you would go to the store and buy.

992
01:16:08,159 --> 01:16:13,399
Kind of Boo Buddy has a built
in EMF reader, so he's triggered

993
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:18,520
by EMF and he lights up.
So I wanted to make something similar.

994
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:24,560
However, I don't know how to
do any circuiting. So what I did

995
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:30,760
with parapuppy is I made him and
he has a pocket in his mouth,

996
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,520
So you open his mouth up and
you can shove up. I mean,

997
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:38,239
really whatever you want to. That's
okay, that sound really bad. What

998
01:16:38,359 --> 01:16:42,119
you do is you open his mouth
and you can put in a motion sensor

999
01:16:42,279 --> 01:16:45,199
if you wanted to put in.
Basically, put whatever you want there.

1000
01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:48,560
Some people I have told them it's
an option. I mean, I don't

1001
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,720
do it because I don't have any. But you can put in, say

1002
01:16:53,039 --> 01:16:57,399
a Bluetooth speaker and say you want
to have your phone and you want a

1003
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,960
Bluetooth the spirit box out of your
para puppy. You can put a speaker

1004
01:17:01,079 --> 01:17:04,000
of whatever kind you want in there
and take it out. Or you could

1005
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,600
put the sensor in there, you
turn it on, stick in his mouth,

1006
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,399
close his mouth, he's good to
go. You could take it out.

1007
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:15,039
I made it easy to access because
I didn't want to make something whre

1008
01:17:15,079 --> 01:17:17,399
when the battery died, you were
screwed, right. I wanted to make

1009
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,840
it so instead of buying another para
puppy, you could just buy a you

1010
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:26,880
know, five dollars catball and shove
it in his mouth. But I do

1011
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:32,239
have options where the any of his
paws really I can put pockets in so

1012
01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:35,600
it's the same thing. You could
put the lights into the pockets, so

1013
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:43,720
you take him on your investigation.
My theory with my pattern was again everything

1014
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,680
is handmade by me. It all
starts his balls of yarn and I make

1015
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:53,039
something out of it. I wanted
something that if you took it to an

1016
01:17:53,399 --> 01:17:59,760
old haunted house or haunted anything.
If there were old spirits around, I

1017
01:18:00,039 --> 01:18:04,319
wanted something that they would feel comfortable
interacting with. And back in the old

1018
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:09,239
days they would knit or crochet.
They didn't do a lot of stuffed animals

1019
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,840
any other way because they didn't have
the stuff. So a lot of the

1020
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,680
really really old ones would be crocheted, and I found like a pretty generic

1021
01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:25,720
pattern, so it would hopefully encourage
the spirits to interact more with the toy,

1022
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,159
as opposed to something where because I
had somebody ask me why I could

1023
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:34,800
put a censor in just about anything
I make, to be fair, but

1024
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,640
say you had like an alien doll. Well, if you have a spirit

1025
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:45,000
that's maybe a child from seventeen eighteen
hundreds, they're probably not going to go

1026
01:18:45,119 --> 01:18:48,600
play with an alien doll because they
might be scared of it. So I

1027
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:53,960
tried to come up with something that
would be familiar to them. And even

1028
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:59,800
if it wasn't a kid, it
might be say an older woman or some

1029
01:19:00,079 --> 01:19:02,479
thing where they might have made something
similar for their grandkids and they might be

1030
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:09,479
curious to play with it because they
might recognize something about it. So that's

1031
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,600
what those are, and you could
do it like so there's different options on

1032
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,800
there, so I can add pockets
just about anywhere. But I'm gonna take

1033
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:25,880
mine with me to par Con and
see if anything happens. But yeah,

1034
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,840
I mean anything really but mine.
I'll do motion sensors, so with a

1035
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,079
pair of puppy, no matter what
size you get or whatever, I always

1036
01:19:32,079 --> 01:19:34,920
send it with one sensor, so
you at least have one to get started

1037
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:41,079
with. But if you have other
pockets that you want added, I have

1038
01:19:41,239 --> 01:19:44,319
options where I can add the send
you the ball in it, and I

1039
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,760
can leave a pocket so you can
get it in and out, and or

1040
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,520
I can just send you the bear
with nose sensors and you can buy whatever

1041
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:56,479
whatever you want to put in their
spine. I try to make it pretty

1042
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,359
easy so and leave a lot of
room so it wouldn't be too bad.

1043
01:20:00,239 --> 01:20:04,359
But yeah, where is all this
stuff? Where can everybody find your podcast,

1044
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:11,199
your merch everything? Oh? Yeah, okay, so there's a couple

1045
01:20:11,319 --> 01:20:14,520
different ways. If you want to
look on a website. I do have

1046
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:20,520
a website. It is www dot
cryptidscreepsand conspiracy dot com. I know original

1047
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:25,600
right, And if you're in there, everything's there. You can leave a

1048
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:29,039
review, you can you know,
rate the podcast, all the episodes are

1049
01:20:29,119 --> 01:20:32,359
there, uh, depending on It's
usually at the top, depending on which

1050
01:20:33,279 --> 01:20:38,159
phone or laptop what you're looking at. There is a button to click for

1051
01:20:38,399 --> 01:20:44,000
merch. So I am going to
warn everybody though. I have two merch

1052
01:20:44,119 --> 01:20:48,159
websites currently. I have the Square, so if you hit merch on my

1053
01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:53,000
website, it will send you to
the site where all my handmade stuff is.

1054
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:58,079
That is the only place to find
my handmade stuff I do. Also,

1055
01:20:58,239 --> 01:21:00,840
if you go in any of my
social media, there's a link at

1056
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,119
the top. It's a link tree
link, and if you click on it,

1057
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:09,000
all of my stuff is there too. The website's there anywhere you want

1058
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:13,600
to listen there. I have both
the Tea Public and the Square Store.

1059
01:21:14,159 --> 01:21:16,319
One of them I tried to put
the titles in where it's like ones like

1060
01:21:16,399 --> 01:21:19,640
T shirt, cups and mugs.
One's handmade stuff, so you'll know the

1061
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:23,920
difference. You can click on any
of those. There's places to donate,

1062
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:28,880
there's places to reach out. You
can go on the website. If you've

1063
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:33,920
got any encounters or experiences, questions, anything like that, you can always

1064
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:41,800
send them on the form on the
website or my email is cryptids Creeps and

1065
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:46,600
Conspiracy at gmail dot com to get
into there too. I'll also be at

1066
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,000
so Again par Con, which I
don't think it's going to come out before

1067
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,960
I get there. But the end
of September of this year, I will

1068
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:58,520
be at the Indiana Bigfoot Conference and
I will have a booth there as a

1069
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:03,359
vendor, and then I will be
in November, I will be at CRYPTIDCN

1070
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,920
in Lexington, Kentucky. I do
not have a booth there, but I

1071
01:22:08,359 --> 01:22:12,479
will be there all weekend. If
you've had an encounter with something unexplained and

1072
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,920
you'd like to share it on the
show, email me at Bigfoot crossroadst gmail

1073
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,520
dot com. If you get a
chance, check out the website Bigfootcrossroads dot

1074
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:23,279
com. You can find all the
past episodes, links to march, links

1075
01:22:23,319 --> 01:22:27,479
to the social media, everything you
need all in one place. And until

1076
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,560
next time, remember there's something in
the woods.
