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You're listening to Bill Handle on demand
from KFI AM six forty. This is

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KFI AM six forty Bill Handle.
Here a SCHITZI hot Monday morning, June

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twenty four, and we are looking
at several days of this boy across the

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country. This heat dome, all
man. It is usually we have a

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dry heat, not so much,
not so much. Today It's a Schmitz

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all right. Before I get to
the funding lag story, I want to

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share with you with homelessness. Of
course I have to do a homeless story.

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of LA. Now, in terms of

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I can't do a week, I
can't do two days worth of topics without

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getting into homelessness, because that is
in many ways the number one problem here

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in California. Let me think of
this. Gavin newsom Ran on homelessness to

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become governor Karen Bass ran on homelessness. Paul Caruso, her opponent, ran

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on homelessness, and we have this
horrific problem. Neil just did a story

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on the homeless in various parts of
Los Angeles. I went to an event

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on Saturday night the Lawyer's Philharmonic.
Had to go through downtown. The number

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of tents that were out there.
In one case under a bridge, there

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was support, a potty, and
there was a big tent. So that

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was a two bedroom, one bath, And I'm sure that people really are

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just striving for one of those.
They're just more comfortable. Okay, with

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that being said, here's the way
it works with these homeless programs. It's

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not just the government here have some
money or will spend some money. These

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government they don't really have governmental programs. It's governmental grants. It's outsource to

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nonprofits. And there's a story in
the LA Time about one nonprofit reclaim Possibilities

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twenty two beds in LA and this
is for men released from jail and prison

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who would otherwise go into homelessness.
And the owner again had to tell us

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ten employees, you're not going to
get paid or you won't get paid for

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a while because reimbursement checks haven't arrived. Many nonprofit providers with government contracts,

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which is virtually all of them other
than the ones that are non governmental,

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and said, there are different foundations, but this is the majority. There's

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this tangled reimbursement scheme. In other
words, the government pays but doesn't pay

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upfront. Obviously, it has to
pay based on expenses. And yeah,

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here's how crazy it goes invoices go
to La County Probation Department in this case,

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and then the California Department of Corrections. The rehabilitation goes back to the

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agencies, then goes to reclaim possibility. It goes back and forth. It

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is just a complicated, god awful
mess and there's no good way to deal

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with it. And well, there
actually is. But here's what happens with

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a lot of these nonprofits. The
money, a lot of it goes to

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interest because they have to get these
predatory loans, I mean nonprofit agencies have

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to go and get these payday loans. Effectively. The answer, and we

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haven't gone there yet in La County
Board of Supervisors is looking at this is

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to use the factoring model. What
is factoring? Factoring is used in the

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schmata industry. It is used in
almost every industry that has inventory. In

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this case, the inventory is the
county that owes money. So factoring.

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Let's say you have a company,
you have a clothing manufacturing company and will

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owe you money and you don't have
cash right now. Well, I'm a

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lending institution and I'm lending you the
money based on the assets that you have.

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The assets being money that's owed to
you, and I give you the

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money discount it because I'm taking somewhat
of the risk and I have to make

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a profit, and I charge interest
on the money. That happens almost instantly.

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It's a model that makes no sense
as a matter of fact. In

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New York, this is what they're
doing and this is a model program.

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There is an organization in New York
CNY. I'm going to get into that

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what that stands for. But when
you're starting with FEC, I mean that's

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a problem. Is funded by philanthropy
and the city one point six billion dollars

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and no interest bridge loans. And
this enables these nonprofits to keep the money

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to sustain their services, which if
you have a nonprofit in this case homelessness

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nonprofits and tell me how unimportant that
is, right, I mean, all

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they're all important, But as we
deal with this problem, we want to

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just maximize the number of dollars because
it's all going to be incremental anyway.

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I mean, it's going to be
little bits and pieces. The only one

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of the homeless, and this is
one of them. And the way the

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system is it makes it almost impossible
for them to either get all the money

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pay their employees without these insane loans
they have to take out. Let's put

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in the factoring system the money that
the model that New York uses just a

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straight business model. You've got inventory. And by the way, when you

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have inventory, when the government owes
you money, you're going to get paid.

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There isn't a lot of bad paper
there. You get paid. So

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that's solid for a lender. I'll
buy those loans or I'll buy that money

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that's owed at a discount, and
here's your money right now. And so

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that's the way. It's a good
idea. It's a good idea. And

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are you ready for this? They're
actually going in that direction. Hold on

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a minute. A good idea that
makes sense fiscally, and the government is

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saying, yeah, we're gonna do
it. Calendar that one, okay,

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because you're not going to see that
very often. Okay, Now I get

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some pretty good news until you dive
into it, and then I guess it's

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very good news for some folks.
I'll explain why Gen X four to one

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K retirement lags. But guess what. Four oh one K balances of Gen

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X workers now beats baby boomers by
two hundred dollars at five hundred and forty

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three thousand dollars. And this is
a fidelity looking at twenty two million accounts

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in the first three months of this
year. Okay, xers are born between

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nineteen sixty five nineteen eighty. This
is the next generation torect tire behind the

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boomers born between forty six and sixty
four. I am a boomer and I

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am in retirement age. Although you
know, I don't know what you do

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when you retire. I don't play
golf, I don't have friends, I

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don't do much. You can only
couch potato as a verb for so long.

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In any case, Gen X is
often referred to as the forgotten generation.

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Why because you've got boomers and millennials
on either side. And here's the

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tough part, and it's kind of
a good story about how so many of

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them actually have this much money.
They're the first generation to start working with

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four to oh one k's replacing pension
plans. Now, the law the irs

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allows you to have a pension plan
and a four to oh one K,

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And that's what a lot of us
did and do. When you're in an

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industry that has pension plans, and
you know, it used to be that

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virtually every major company had a pension
plan. We don't hear iHeart doesn't allow

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a pension plan or doesn't provide one, and most major companies today don't.

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And it's now you're retiring and you've
got the gen xers who are looking at

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two things. Retirement funds they have
to put in four o one ks and

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so security and whatever savings they have. That is not easy to put together,

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it really Isn't you take away one
of those pillars. What is the

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difference between a pension and a four
to oh one K four one K plan

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plan? Is you're investing money and
in the pension plan you receive a you

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receive a plan that usually the employer
pays there. Now there can be a

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contribution but a four oh one K
plan unless there is a matching three percent

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contribution, then it's your Basically,
your money goes in a four to one

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K plan and the employer money goes
into a pension plan with a little some

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differences. And we, for example, because we are members of AFTRA,

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the American Federation of Television Radio Artists, which I've never understood that how we

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are artists, we have a pension
plan. And if you are smart,

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you have a four to oh one
K, which I know you have,

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and if you're very smart, you
put in the maximum allowed by law.

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And by the way, that money
is tax deductible. So if you make

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one hundred thousand dollars and you're allowed
to put in thirty thousand dollars, now

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then you're taxed on one hundred and
seventy thousand dollars, and the thirty thousand

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dollars is put away and you're not
taxed on it. It goes into a

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four oh one K and you can't
touch it until you're sixty or late fifties.

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And there are a bunch of other
rules, but the bottom line is

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that's tax free money, or that's
it's non taxable, and that builds up

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over the years. Oh does that
build up if you're in the thirty percent,

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Well, actually you're in forty percent
tax bracket. At one hundred thousand

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dollars a year, you're able to
put away thirty That's a lot of money

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that you're not paying taxes on it, and that makes a great deal of

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sense. The government lets you do
that as well, it should, and

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then after fifty it even turbos that
up to thirty thousand, because until then

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you're a twenty three thousand. I
don't want to get into the minutia because

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now we're getting into the weeds.
But the bottom line is that gen X

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workers have take have to take that
into account, and it's just harder.

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Baby boomers have the most disposable income
of any generation ever, but we've had

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pension plans which don't exist anymore now. The other thing about four oh one

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case, A lot of companies will
do a match in other words, for

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the first three get three percent.
So if you're making one hundred thousand dollars

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a year, you put away three
thousand dollars into a pension plan for example,

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or four oh one k, the
the government or the company will match

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up to that much money. So
three percent is typical. So you make

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one hundred thousand dollars, three percent
is matched by the cover by the company.

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And I always say, you are
out of your mind not to put

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that in, because you know what
the return is on that three percent.

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You put in on that three thousand
dollars and you're making one hundred grand,

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it's one hundred percent return. It
doubles because three thousand dollars becomes six thousand

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dollars the moment you put it in. So there are governmental programs out there

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not to give you money, but
allow you to do things that eliminate taxes,

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let you build things up that lets
you get where you keep more of

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your money, and then you pay
taxes on it way later. It's all

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tax deferred money. And so gen
xers are actually paying attention and now starting

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seriously to do this in their fifth
ffties. I started seriously putting money away

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when I think I was in my
late forties. Had I started putting money

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away when I was in my twenties
or even thirties the way that it is

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suggested. Joel Larsgard and I have
talked about this ad nauseum on Thursdays.

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Had I started in my early thirties
today, you would be listening to my

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assistant do this show, and I
would be sitting on my ass listening and

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saying, hey, good for you, as my money is turboing. And

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instead I started in either late thirties
I'm trying to figure out where it was,

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or early forties, so I have
a limited amount now I have been

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maximizing it. Also, I live
under my means. That's a whole different

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story, so you don't spend as
much as you have. They are people

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that go the other way. But
this is just a stat that is actually

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good news for so many Gen xers. You've worked harder at it. If

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you have enough money laid aside for
retirement, you had to have worked far

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higher than I had to have worked, and most of us boomers, and

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the same rules always apply. Maximize
any retirement savings and tax deferred opportunities,

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anything that you can get. I
think it's up to fifteen percent you're allowed

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to put away in certain cases.
So if you do it, you do

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it, you do it now.
Kno, this is not for people who

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actually work here at iHeart because I
don't care how much you're living under your

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means. You're living over your means
because well, this is iHeart. Do

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I make enough fun of this company? Yes, yes, you would.

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You would think that someone in management
would come up to me and go handle

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you know, why don't you just
leave it alone for a bit? Okay?

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And then I come back with You're
no better worse than any other major

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corporation. This is the way America
does business, and that's what it does.

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It's a whole new world that used
to be major corporations put into their

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financials pension plans and it costs the
money too. Pension plans are not inexpensive

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for corporation. But it's a different
world. It's the beans who count the

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beans. That's the way we live, all right. I just want to

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make you feel good. But congratulations, by the way, to your gen

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xers who have done what is much
more difficult to do. All right,

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Now, I want to talk about
something that is near and dear to my

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heart because I've got a personal story
about this. And let's go back to

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the nineteen nineties. All right.
Globalization was happening, and it was going

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to be rough on folks. Opening
the economy up to imports, cheap imports

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from Canada, Mexico and China.
Well, that's going to hurt workers who

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made and manufactured here products because it
was just cheaper to buy from even Canada.

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So on top of that, welfare
reform eliminated a lot of money to

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families, and so it was a
double hit. On the one hand,

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you lost your job and on the
other hand, those of you who were

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on welfare job benefits got less money. So Congress comes up with a solution,

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the federally funded job training to help
laid off workers and destitute parents figure

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out a new way of income.
And it made sense think about this.

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Manufacturing workers would reskill for the information
age economy, moving from the factory floor

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to let's say, computer science.
Impoverished moms would get a hand up instead

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of a handout. You've heard that
a whole bunch of times. In reality,

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it was failed miserably. A twenty
seventeen study by Mathematica Research compared people

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who had gotten this federally funded job
training under the nineteen ninety eight law.

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It was known as the WIOA,
the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act. And

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so they took a control group and
they took people who had gotten work training

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under the WIOA. And guess what, thirty months later later, the training

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group had zero effect, made not
a dime more. Whoa wait a minute,

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Well, when this thing started,
you know, they didn't talk much

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about it, but you have someone
on the factory floor, robotics comes in

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wipes out. I don't know what
percentage of factory jobs used to take one

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hundreds and hundreds of people to make
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the dozens because everything else is robotics. So who is going to hire a

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fifty five or fifty eight year old
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be retrained? And so someone gets
retrained, and now you start a job

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at fifty five or fifty eight and
you've had no work experience in the field

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you've been trained for. They never
did able. They were never able to

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figure that out. And so in
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Labor published a comprehensive study of this
program and also similarly structured federal job training

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initiatives, a bunch of these programs, and here's what they found. The

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programs did manage to put a lot
of people through training, absolutely and many

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of those people were then hired in
into in demand jobs. Then it gets

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really interesting, what is an in
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after training, their wages did increase
by six percent. As against those of

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workers who didn't receive training, it
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three hundred to seventeen thousand, three
hundred. It was one thousand dollars.

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And by the way, even that
discrepancy didn't last very long. And

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so why well figure this one out? Ever growing skill requirements for jobs in

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the global economy, the skill level
has to be higher and higher, and

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the only way to really stay on
is to be indispensable, otherwise you get

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tossed. And here is a fundamental
issue. The programs failed because they're designed

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not to help the employees, is
to help the employers, which in the

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big picture actually makes sense. You
want to be trained to do as good

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a job as you can, and
jobs that are needed, and since we

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have a new technological global economy that
doesn't need you to put on lugnuts on

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the assembly line, move into those
highly sought after and needed jobs in the

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global economy. Those are in demand
jobs, and those jobs mean that programs

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that fund those jobs and train you
are eligible for federal funding. And of

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course that's dominated by business interests.
And here's the reality. Businesses want more

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make more money with lots of low
page workers, low paged workers, or

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low paid workers, age workers.
I got that together. I conflated a

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little bit. Lots of low wage
workers trained by someone else, even in

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a very very rudimentary setting, for
example, coding, and I mean just

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putting in data. I mean you
have to have a certain a certain amount

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of training for that. Well,
it's not paid a whole lot of money.

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And by the way, the training
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by us. And that's the demand. And this started in the nineteen nineties

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because the global economy changed all of
a sudden. The imports, all the

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tariffs were offs, and people were
buying Walmart was buying only from China because

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it just was so much cheaper in
Mexico, and cars were being made in

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Mexico and Canadian the dollar or the
American dollar was strong. It just made

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a lot more sense. Well,
it costs people a lot of jobs,

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and so one of the things that
the FEDS did was create these federally funded

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programs work training programs to take people
who are were fired from these jobs that

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were well disappeared and or were replaced
by robots and train them for in demand

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jobs. Usually you think about high
tech jobs, HVAC, solar panel installation,

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that sort of thing. Well,
the reality is that that's not what

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happens. I don't know of a
solar company that took a quote federally trained

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worker at the age of fifty five. It just doesn't happen. So what

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happens, Well, a lot of
them went into this training, and what

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are the jobs they actually trained for? The most common job and we're talking

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about You take number one, which
this is, and you take the next

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nine and combine them, and it
doesn't equal. Number one is truck driving.

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Learn to drive the big rigs.
And why you think with a shortage

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of drivers you'd have people all over
the place. You know, there's a

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ninety percent turnover in truck driving every
year, ninety percent. It is brutal

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work. Imagine you're on the freeway
and it's bumper to bumper traffic. Imagine

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doing that twelve hours a day,
fourteen hours a day. I mean,

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that is brutal. That's numbing work. And the entire issue of do you

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train people for dead end jobs or
do you just pay them welfare. It's

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just cheaper. Put them on the
dole, give them enough money to live

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on, and if you want to
work, you go find it, you

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go train yourself. Now, I
told you about the fact that I was

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a host of the worst television show
in the history of mankind, and it

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was called the worst television show in
the history of mankind with your host Bill

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Handle and it was different topics.
One of the topics we had, one

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of the better ones show is I
had a group of women and that was

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exactly that topic. They had I
don't know, nineteen kids, each of

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them sitting up on the stage.
And the argument was and they were all

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on welfare, and they all wanted
to be on welfare, and they were

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taking care of their kids, which
I think is harder work than actually going

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on a job. And their argument
was, what are you going to do?

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Are you going to pay us to
train and give us work, and

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who's going to take care of our
kids? And the cost of doing it.

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Well, this is why the show
didn't work out so well, because

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I completely lost it. I just
completely lost it. I zoned out and

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started screaming, you welfare queens at
the top of my lungs. I work

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fourteen hours a day so you can
sit on your asses and have kids and

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kids and more kids, and you
expect me to pay you welfare. And

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they all smiled at me and said, yeah, pretty much. And I

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just, I mean laid into them
what you're not supposed to do. By

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the way, just to let you
know that, on a new TV show

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talk show average first year thirty three
hundred and fifty four hundred letters a week.

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That episode we got over four thousand
letters, every one of them laying

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into me. How dare you treat
these girls like that? How dare you

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treat them? It goes to show
you who watches TV during the day.

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But the point is is that these
jobs that people train for, these federally

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funded jobs are for the most part, it's kind of bs. Have you

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seen though? And there's some of
these jobs, for example, you train

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for and you get loans for this
the front end office of medical office front

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end turt learn to run the front
end of a medical office. You know

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what the front end of a medical
office is. You pick up the phone

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and you go doctor Smith's office sure, I'll make an appointment for you to

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see doctor Smith. There's your job, but first you need a federally funded

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job training program to pick up the
phone and go hi doctor Smith's office.

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Now, maybe it's a little hyperbole, but not a lot, not a

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whole lot. You don't see daytime
TV saying hey, learn to be a

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dentist, get off your ass and
get a federally funded work training program for

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dental school. You don't see that
usually. So the program, uh,

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it really didn't work. And then
that the dilemma is still there because how

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many jobs you think AI is going
to eliminate? And what do you do

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with someone and I've been an employee
an employer before, what do you do

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with someone who is in their fifties
and has no experience in the work that

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they've been training to do, assuming
that it's a good training program. I

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don't think there's an easy answer to
this one, not at all all,

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right, kf I am six forty
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