WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.280 --> 00:00:06.919 Steve Rivera and Jacob Salads. They have their eye on the ball on Tucson 2 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:13.480 Sports. Stay yet Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to I'm 3 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.559 the back here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Matt and 4 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:21.879 Renilson. Now we got mister Ryan. We have some breaking news. All 5 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.600 right. We're gonna start with the U of A. We got a couple 6 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:28.800 of articles to go over. The first thing we're gonna go over is some 7 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:34.240 news about an upcoming game this year between Arizona and UCLA. AH. They 8 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:38.679 will continue to play each other in a neutral court series. This year will 9 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:42.640 be the first game. It will be played at the Footprint Center in Phoenix, 10 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:47.880 and then next year the teams will play again in Las Vegas, and 11 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:52.039 then the following actually two years after that, in twenty twenty seven, they're 12 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:56.679 gonna play in Los Angeles. So if you thought Michale North and Michale West 13 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:00.600 were things of the past, they're back. It'll be fun. It'll be 14 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:03.359 fun depends who's coaching at the time, because who knows about Cronin, right, 15 00:01:03.519 --> 00:01:07.040 he's always kind of day to day. Yeah, two year and who 16 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.480 knows what Tommy does, Yeah, and we'll see what UCLA is able to 17 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:12.680 do in the Big ten. I think maybe a little bit better fit for 18 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:15.760 them stylistically under Cronan. You know, they played they played good defense, 19 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.840 they played better defense than they did under guy like Steve Alford. So potentially 20 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.120 that stylistic fit is a little better and maybe they're a little bit more successful 21 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:26.040 program when you have a sees him next. But I had a line of 22 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:30.480 questioning to Tommy Lloyd earlier this year about you know the history of that rivalry 23 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:34.120 and if it feels like an ending, and he said, well, it 24 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.640 doesn't feel like an ending because he knew that they were going to work on 25 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:41.359 I remember, I remember that question because your questions, your questions kind of 26 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:45.719 gets him and he does those faces and remember the answered to you. Yeah, 27 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:48.079 it's like, oh, yeah, you're going to say something later that 28 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:49.439 is going to be happening. Yep, yeah, yeah, Yeah. There's 29 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.840 always a premonition. When this came out maybe two weeks ago and the sites 30 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.159 were going to be made, a lot of people gain on interritten and blah 31 00:01:57.159 --> 00:01:59.640 blah blah, Well they should have it at the home courts, you know, 32 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:01.439 because that's what we that's what we know, and that's what we've done. 33 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:04.879 No, put them, put them, put them in good places, 34 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.159 because they'll like, they'll draw fans. I mean, there are a lot 35 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:09.240 of people from LA and Phoenix, and you know obviously Phoenix is the biggest 36 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:13.319 alumni based you of that. And the people who are complaining about it, 37 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:15.280 guess what they don't have tickets anyway to go to the game? Right, 38 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:21.400 come on exactly. That game takes place on December fourteenth. If I didn't 39 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:23.159 mention that already, Okay, the first one this year, it'll be this 40 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:25.159 year. It'll be this year. Yep, Okay, great in Phoenix, 41 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:30.719 that'll be would be a good time. Sticking with you have a basketball key 42 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:36.360 shot. Johnson and hell Larson are showing up in the mock NBA drafts. 43 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.000 Uh. Second day is the day that you want to look out for because 44 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:43.719 they are projected to go kind of later in the draft. What numbers, 45 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.800 what's the what's the highest number they've had? So according to bleacher Report, 46 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:52.319 Johnson is I've projected to go thirty seven to the Timberwolves. Larson is protected 47 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:58.120 forty third to the Miami Heat. ESPN Larson is ahead of Johnson at forty 48 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:02.960 fifth to the Kings and the fiftieth for Johnson at the Pacers. USA today 49 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.000 has Larson head of Johnson at forty second to the Hornets, and then Johnson 50 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:10.520 is undrafted. According to that, Yeah, Mark drafts, I like the 51 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:14.879 first one. I think report kind of had it because I think Keishaw Johnson 52 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:16.199 would be a really good fit on the timber Wolves, you know, with 53 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:21.879 his defensive abilities and you know, aletic athleticism, everything like that. And 54 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:24.400 then Pela Larson on the Miami Heat. I mean it's such an international flair 55 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:28.680 with that city and that team and the Heat culture and everything like that. 56 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.520 And we saw Jim Hawks as a second round pick this last year become a 57 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:35.319 bona fide NBA starter with that team, right right. I like him in 58 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:38.759 Indiana too, I mean already has three or two two for sure, there's 59 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:46.360 alums on there. Yeah, Watch and Mather, yeah, ma Ben Yeah, 60 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:50.759 So that'd be cool. I think that before months ago, I didn't 61 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:53.840 think either one would get drafted. Who knows, they both played well in 62 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:59.000 the combine, So yeah, I think Kishaw Johnson's athletic ability goes a long 63 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.039 way in that discussion. Yeah, it looks like they're both going to be 64 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:04.000 kind of close to each other in the draft, so, you know, 65 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.960 or not drafted at all. Yeah, I mean these are just smock drafts 66 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.120 and who knows. And we did see in the w n B A I 67 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:13.439 mean two Arizona second round draft picks not make the roster, which happens a 68 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:15.759 lot more in the w NBA with you know, with shorter rosters and no 69 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:19.199 developmental league, right like the NBA has the G League. But you know, 70 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:21.600 we'll see if they can stick on a roster and maybe make an impact 71 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:25.360 this next year. Yeah, for sure, it's going. With a little 72 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:30.240 bit of local news, p M College got a softball standout, Camilla Zippetta, 73 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:36.279 was named to the n j Cuba All American this season a sophomore. 74 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:40.240 Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't say where she's going to school. I don't 75 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.839 think did it because they they came out of nowhere and did really well in 76 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.720 the second half of the season and went to the tournament and had a twenty 77 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:48.879 five game winning streak. Yeah, I think, the second longest in school 78 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:51.079 history. You know the story here, Yeah, you know the story with 79 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:56.000 us? What's the story? So? So Jay's the kiss of death? 80 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:59.879 I mean he says you're gonna win tomorrow. Well, you're not gonna win 81 00:04:59.879 --> 00:05:01.399 the because he said you're gonna win, Mark, you lose. And it 82 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:05.199 happens all the time, and like happens ninety percent of the time. That 83 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:09.240 might be a little exaggeration, but it happens a lot, and he has 84 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:13.240 a KOD's kind of embraced it because it's just we well, we had been 85 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.639 holding off on having and Rebecca on the show. Well she gets to the 86 00:05:16.680 --> 00:05:20.319 twenty five streak, come on the show, and the next she loses four 87 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:25.399 straight. Yep, yep, that's but that's the fickleness of softball and baseball. 88 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:30.360 It just kind of happens. That's the that's trustful of J. Well, 89 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:32.920 it's not a lot of things about Jay. We'll keep the receipts for 90 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:39.879 all this two Titans. If theories came and J won, the collide collided, 91 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:43.319 and that theory doesn't mean much because I'm Jay. Now, would you 92 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:46.720 say? Jay is a momentum stopper stage without question, in fact, and 93 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:51.160 people know this. I try not to say what I'm doing because then he'll 94 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:56.680 put the kebash on it and do exactly that or screw up my situation. 95 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.079 Don't talk about that anymore. You're gonna go fire a golf around in the 96 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:03.920 eighties shoots plus one under yeah, yeah, alright, right talking about it 97 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:10.040 to your question, Steve. She was named the player of the Year for 98 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:15.600 the acc okay, and then first team All acc AC and then to the 99 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.959 All Region one and Division one team. Yeah, okay. I wonder where 100 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:23.160 she's gonna go on here, but maybe we'll get out at a later time. 101 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.079 They had a good year offensively, they could hit. I mean every 102 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:28.879 time I went out just shoot highlights. It was like, oh, had 103 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:30.879 to stay fifteen minutes time. I loved you being there because they love the 104 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:34.160 coverage they do. They the PIMA is so great with that race Suarez, 105 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:39.959 the communications person over there, is fantastic. Switching over to the Major League 106 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:44.879 Baseball, we got a little bit of news today. Uh. Infielder Tukipeda 107 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:49.959 Marcano has been permanently banned from the MLB, replacing Bets. Yeah, we 108 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:54.120 had this shesterday, just that that had happened, but not the result of 109 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:56.879 what you just said. Yeah, permanently banned. How old is he? 110 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:01.680 Four twenty four? What was you for? Venezuela so puny go back to 111 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:05.040 Venezuela and play ball down there potentially. Yeah, that's just I mean, 112 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:11.439 that's a career detrimental move because you know, and you I think every league 113 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:15.160 right now is so invested in keeping up the integrity of their sports. Of 114 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.759 course, with betting right now is just such a slippery slope, and they 115 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:21.959 are sacrificing what could be generational wealth for them and their families for the thrill 116 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.639 of competition. I've heard that floated. They placed these bets, and he 117 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.240 was on the injured list when he placed the bets, But he did the 118 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.920 big, big no no. You know, he could have maybe done something 119 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:35.959 else if he bet on you know, the Yankees and the Red Sox, 120 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:40.319 but he bet on team or on games that his team was involved in, 121 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:46.360 and that's insider information, and that's potentially potentially impacting, you know, the 122 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.959 results of the game. Which he was on the injured list, so he 123 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.800 wasn't playing in those games. But that's a that's a lot, that's a 124 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:56.160 big integrity discussion, and you know, I think the Lifetime band was the 125 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.360 only choice there. Yeah, I mean I agree with that, and says 126 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:03.439 he plays one hundred and eighty seven bets totally more than three hundred and eighty 127 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:09.120 seven bets baseball bets more than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars from October twenty 128 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.600 twenty two and from last July through November. And how many did he win? 129 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.879 Like? Five percent is what I read. He won only about five 130 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:26.560 percent of his bets. Holy crad to Jay, you must say, they 131 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:31.679 call him kod know what the hell? Why do that at all? If 132 00:08:31.679 --> 00:08:35.080 you're good at it, maybe, but you're bad at it. Yeah, 133 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.000 I can't imagine winning five percent. He was a short, he was an 134 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.559 infield, right, yeah, Thus I came batting twenty five twenty five percent? 135 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:45.000 Yeah, yeah, zero two five, zero two five? What the 136 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:48.519 hell? That's pretty bad. Somebody said you're not good at this, stop 137 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:54.159 it. Yeah, oh man, somebody had to bringing the real that's number 138 00:08:54.240 --> 00:09:00.480 about five percent? Yeah, holy crap, that's crazy. That's like the 139 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.360 quick here's here's ten dollars. Go burn it, yep, go burn it, 140 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:05.320 yep, Bill burn it, and then keep the corner of it, 141 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:11.600 try and pay for something with it. Put a bunch of un together cherry 142 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:16.159 on top of this story. Truly, it was wow. Yeah, all 143 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.720 right. Sticking with MLB a little bit of news. I'm sure Jay will 144 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:28.519 probably talk more about this tomorrow. The interpreter for whose horror has pled guilty 145 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.799 to all wow, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. We didn't this come 146 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:33.080 out last last week or no, this is different. This came out this 147 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:39.759 morning. Okay, So you can see says he's maximum sentence of thirty three 148 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:43.519 years. Yet you know that that story had so many twists and turns with 149 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:50.919 it, and you know the the bookies approaching approaching soheo Tani in Santa Monica 150 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:54.799 and the text receipts and everything like that. Uh, you know, the 151 00:09:54.840 --> 00:10:00.159 bookie texting Ipe saying you know you're in you're in hot water and you but 152 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:01.799 you didn't steal from him, did you? And he said, well, 153 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:05.639 technically I did. And it just goes to show, I mean, the 154 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:11.480 a lot of different layers to this, which is, you know, the 155 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:16.720 cultural gap when it comes to you know, American sports and betting culture and 156 00:10:16.879 --> 00:10:20.039 people that you know grew up in Japan, you know, the language barrier 157 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:26.000 and all of that, but also trusting someone as a confidant as shoe Atani 158 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:31.399 did with and giving him full access to the bank accounts and then just Musuhara 159 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:37.000 embezzling that money from Otani. It is just one of the wildest sports stories 160 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:41.000 in this new age of betting really being a part of our daily lives and 161 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:50.360 our conversations about sports. True sticking with uh I guess not sticking. It's 162 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:52.399 going over to the NBA. A little bit of news. Just something I 163 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.600 kind of came across Lebron James. He's proud of Kyrie Irvin for making it 164 00:10:56.600 --> 00:11:01.440 back to the finals, but he misses having here as a partner. Yeah. 165 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:05.879 Yeah, they were good teammates. I'll always remember in twenty sixteen when 166 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:09.240 they became the first pair of teammates to each go for forty in an NBA 167 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:13.240 Finals game in the same NBA Finals game, and they did in that Game 168 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.360 six at home against the Warriors, part of the three to one comeback for 169 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:22.240 the Cavaliers. I blame I blame Green for that kicking somebody in the cross 170 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:24.559 in Game six. Yeah, well he was he was out Game five, 171 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:26.759 so he was so they were up three to one, he was out Game 172 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:30.720 five in San Francisco. Cavs won that by about ten, I believe, 173 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.639 and then came back and blew out the Warriors in Game six, and then 174 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:37.240 obviously the iconic Game seven was that the block shot with Yeah, that was 175 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.519 the Game seven block shot, and then Kyrie Irving actually hit the go ahead 176 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:45.720 three in that game. They were great teammates, but Kyrie obviously went off 177 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:48.399 the rails for a couple of years and he wanted to be his own guy. 178 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.799 He wanted to be his own guy. And you know, obviously he's 179 00:11:50.840 --> 00:11:54.080 a unique individual, but it's kind of nice to see how he has kind 180 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:58.039 of seamlessly meshed with Luka Doncic. We'll see if that continues in the NBA 181 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:01.840 Finals started Thursday. Yeah, I mean, Lebron's gonna come over to the 182 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:03.919 Mavericks. Maybe so, But Lebron got the coach he wanted. That actually 183 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:07.799 broke just before the show ahead. He's emerged as the front runner. JJ 184 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:13.200 Reddick has emerged as the front runner for the two three months ago. Yeah, 185 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:16.879 the old old news, but news that now is being broken by the 186 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.960 NBA anxiety. Interesting, they bailed it down. It's a job you're going 187 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.519 to go get fired at, but maybe you can win a title or two 188 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.399 before you do it. He's a smart dude, obviously, Yes, smart 189 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:28.639 dude. Obviously. He can play unspoken, so we'll see how he goes. 190 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.279 He is kind of playing with fire. If there's any sport right now 191 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:39.080 to where experience may not be the end determiner of success as a coach, 192 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:41.519 it might be the NBA because it is such a transactional league. These coaches 193 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:46.000 will get four and five year contracts and they'll last for one year and then 194 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:48.480 they'll get paid out. Let me ask you this, are you almost done? 195 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:50.399 Okay? So let me ask you because you're in the profession. Here's 196 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.960 JJ Reddick. He's a former U he's a former NBA player. Former athlete 197 00:12:56.240 --> 00:13:00.159 comes on the scene, does really well. And I'm just using him as 198 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.399 an example. You're looking for a job, you're you're good in what you 199 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:07.320 do on screen or whatever, or you want to get a job in house 200 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:11.480 of NBA or MLB or whatever. You have an athlete who doesn't have a 201 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:13.360 clue, didn't go to school for it, that's for sure, speaks well, 202 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:16.480 very bright. Guess whose job he's taking. How do you feel? 203 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.960 You know? I think there's a lot of different ways to look at it 204 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:24.399 as a as a broadcaster and a coach. So I'll say that a former 205 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:28.840 player comes off that comes out into retirement and then immediately takes a broadcast job. 206 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:31.919 And obviously it's different with Greg Olsen and Tom Brady, but that's the 207 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.720 comparison. I'll bring it out to Greg Olsen being a former athlete himself, 208 00:13:35.799 --> 00:13:39.919 but did a great job in the Fox booth, the number one Fox in 209 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:43.840 the NFL coverage, and he and Kevin Burkhart were a great tandem. But 210 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:50.480 I think at some point you know it. It's one of those situations that 211 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.159 no matter how hard you work, if you're Greg Olsen, and no matter 212 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:58.759 how good of a job you do, there are a few select people that 213 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:03.840 will rise above you as far as star power, as far as name recognition, 214 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:07.320 And the man who's considered the greatest quarterback of all time is one of 215 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:11.399 those few people. You know, people who have had really successful playing careers 216 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:15.240 have not lost it long in the broadcasting booth. And there are these networks, 217 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:18.200 especially with the highly competitive nature of NFL coverage, do not stay on 218 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:22.120 things for long. I e. Drew Brees lasted two games in the broadcast 219 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:26.159 booth, lasted about half a season as a studio analyst for NBC, and 220 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:28.080 now he's kind of out of it. Now he's kind of out of it. 221 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:31.200 I should realize that because he was no good and he wants to get 222 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:35.559 back into calling games. Said that an event last week. I believe in 223 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:39.120 New Orleans or somewhere on the east, would they keep him to a limited 224 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:41.919 amount. I think he just I think they just didn't see maybe the growth 225 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.159 in him as a color commentator and how they wanted to see it. Okay, 226 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.840 so they're actually watching that and rather the name. 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Steve Rivera and Jacin saliz they have their 301 00:19:53.039 --> 00:20:00.000 eye on the ball on Twusons Sports stag Chet, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 302 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.400 I mean live, I mean I heeart radio wabs Hey, welcome back to 303 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.480 Iron the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Riverta. He's Met 304 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:11.880 Rendelson. Who've got Ryan with us at the front. Now we have hold 305 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:18.000 Robino from before you at Hold, I just have Devil's Digest. Trying to 306 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:19.240 think out of the top of my head. How are you you doing, 307 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:23.640 Hode? I'm going to say thanks as all having me. You're You're always 308 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:27.519 busy, You're always busy. The last couple of a couple of weeks for 309 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:33.599 sure. Uh talk to me of the kind of like the the Caleb Love 310 00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:40.200 fallout benefited Arizona State and basketball. I think no, yeah, yeah right. 311 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:45.759 Uh. Jussan Sonan, who as you know, was a former Arizona 312 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:52.279 commit uh did decide to uh see commit and commit to the Arizona State as 313 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:56.279 a result of Caleb Love taking his name out of the draft. I was 314 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:03.640 solved by somebody callsa Sonanda. It wasn't all encompassing with Love. But also 315 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:10.880 the transfer that Arizona got from Campbell was something that reportedly did shared the Sonons 316 00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:17.279 camp by surprise, So maybe that kind of started getting the wheels in motion, 317 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:23.079 if you will. And Caleb Love returning really was the final element over 318 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:27.799 here that did cause to be commits. But obviously I'm a very big pickup 319 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:33.279 for Arizona State. I mean this recruiting class as also Bobby Early as by 320 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:37.480 far being not only the best ever, but really the best ever in program 321 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.359 history. So that was definitely a nice cherry in top for the Arizona State 322 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:45.759 fans up again to commit from Arizona Old Matt here Steve and I talked about 323 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:52.920 this a little bit last week, but you don't really see a transaction happen 324 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:57.279 and then twenty minutes later the wheels just go in motion. That quickly seems 325 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.640 like there were some things going on behind the scene, as there is with 326 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.960 all recruiting these days, with Synad going to as you you know, were 327 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.640 those conversations that were happening, you know, even as early as his commitment 328 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:15.000 to Arizona or and how reminiscent or how reflective is that of recruiting in this 329 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:18.039 day and age of nil on the transfer portal. Look, I mean, 330 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:26.400 let's not pretend that pre ni L pre transfer portal conversation through the parties what 331 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.039 have you, that did take place, and maybe some of them can be 332 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:34.000 even constitute tampering, depending how much I illegal we we to go to. 333 00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:37.319 But yeah, I mean I think, uh, I think there's no doubt 334 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:44.559 that that's when josh Asnan knew that there was a good champ of Hit of 335 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:49.799 Love returning to to Arizona and not being in the NBA Draft, that he 336 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:55.119 probably maybe did send out some feelos out there. I mean, as as 337 00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:59.839 we both know, Uh, these high school players don't only have the ad 338 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:03.880 ind or a AU coach that's there in their corner, that some of them 339 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:10.759 actually have agents that's an agent in the very sense of the word. So 340 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:14.799 yeah, I think, I think definitely there was some groundwork that was late 341 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:18.920 in Arizona State was was really able to get to get in there. But 342 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:23.240 like I said, I did hear from a very good star song this matter. 343 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:26.720 That also the transfer that did come from Campbell to u of A. 344 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:33.319 That's some things that definitely posts so not to take a real hard look at 345 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.440 as much as Arizona and now some people may agree or just look radious Sonon 346 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:42.599 really should have had that line of thinking once franswer from Campbell did arrive in 347 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:47.599 Tucson. But nonetheless that was also definitely an element. Again, I do 348 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:53.119 want to stress it wasn't all starting ending with Eli loves Oh correct me if 349 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:56.519 I'm wrong, but maybe two three months ago, if not reach more recent 350 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:03.559 Bobby talked about the need for nil more money to come in to make his 351 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:08.640 program more successful. So that must have happened to get these kids. Yeah, 352 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:14.920 there was actually a tweet done by Jeff Goodman, one of the college 353 00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:21.680 basketball national pundits, that Bobby Hurley was shopping and was able to secure a 354 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.559 documentary series Hard Docks. Yes, yes, if if you look for any 355 00:24:26.599 --> 00:24:30.319 kind of parallel that's really going to peel the curtains and they'll see what's behind 356 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:34.559 the issue basketball. What is a day in Bobby Hurley's life? Looks like 357 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:40.000 they're just doing all kinds of features on the basketball team as a whole and 358 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:42.960 also an initial players individually. I mean, when you have a guy like 359 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:48.079 Jaden Quainton's a five star prospect and number one center in the twenty twenty four 360 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:52.559 class, Yeah, that's typically one guy you could just sitic gate a whole 361 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:59.079 episode for when you have this hard Knocks like documentary. So that really helped 362 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:03.279 Bobby Hurley secure more ni L than than he ever has and definitely a higher 363 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:08.599 level than it was about last year. That allowed to land Jack and Quinton's 364 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:15.799 that's allowed allowed him to lands on and really just overall having having the recruiting 365 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:21.480 class that he's having bringing in some great quality transfers out of the portal as 366 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:23.720 well. So, yes, and I just to kick company few notches because 367 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:30.359 of some of the bigger donors did up the contributions to the basketball program. 368 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:36.519 Former A players and NBA like James Harden have also reported to the contributing now 369 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:40.680 at a higher level so everything is coming together front and far Arizona State. 370 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:42.480 When it comes to n I L. I'm not here to suggests that their 371 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:48.839 NIL level is up there with the blue bloods across the nation, but it's 372 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.680 stepped at a level that is much much better than it was even just last 373 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.440 year ago. And again, I just think the poops in the pudding when 374 00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:59.480 you look at the top five recruiting class, when you look at every town 375 00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:04.720 to transfer class, that NIL is definitely right now working much differently for issues 376 00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.039 than it did previous one. O. When you look at the new Big 377 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:11.720 twelve and the way this basketball conference is going to look with all of these 378 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.680 top teams, you know, literally throughout the preseason top twenty five already for 379 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:18.519 next year, you look at two different approaches to building a roster in this 380 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:22.519 conference. You either get NBA level talented players, which ASU has certainly done 381 00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:26.799 in this year's recruiting class and that seems to be the direction that Bobby Hurley 382 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.599 is going. Or you get veteran college basketball players, guys that have seen 383 00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.559 a lot of ball at the college level and or experienced players but may not 384 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.359 have the NBA ceiling of some of these you know, younger star players. 385 00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.680 What do you make of the different approaches that ASU and the U of A 386 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.960 are taking to this new Big twelve, And how do they give them a 387 00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.759 unique leg up when you're going up against the Kansases, the Baylors, the 388 00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:53.559 Houstons, and these teams that are well established in this great basketball conference. 389 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:57.920 Yeah, I thought, I do think that you do have a fine line 390 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:02.599 to walk over here. And I agree with the one hundred percent Big twelve 391 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:07.519 is the ecois conference in the nation and stores and maybe this is not a 392 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:14.039 revelation to sell, but I think that all the teams that are canswering from 393 00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:18.000 the PAC twelve are just going to learn that pretty quickly that this is not 394 00:27:18.519 --> 00:27:23.839 anywhere close to the Tax twelve basketball. And I think about what Bobby Eury 395 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:29.519 is trying to do is really just have a fusion of those two approaches that 396 00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.480 you mentioned. On the one hand, like you said, they're very talented 397 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.240 incoming freshman, a lot of them with legit in the NBA potential. Deschaunle 398 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:41.279 Not, for example, is already listed as a first round pick in the 399 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.799 twenty twenty five NBA Draft. But on the other hand, I think Bobby 400 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:51.599 Rearley knows that if you have a team that's going to over rely on freshmen, 401 00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:55.920 as talented as they may be, you might really be asking for a 402 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:57.880 lot of trouble. So I think the transfer class that he was able to 403 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:03.519 assemble has been very, very iggressive. When you have guys like bj Seaman 404 00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.400 I have averaged over twenty one points seared, you have to average over eighteen 405 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:11.160 points, Austin Mason averaging over seventeen points. I mean, sure those are 406 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:18.680 Group five level or say mid major level basketball programs, but nonetheless you just 407 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.119 think that of a player even at a low level like the Max for example, 408 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:26.359 is averaging seventeen to twenty points and you're vote at all MAC player. 409 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:32.079 It's not like you're going to come even to a very challenging conference like the 410 00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:36.599 Big twelve and suddenly averages five six points a game. So I think Bobby 411 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:41.839 Hurley has been able to really create a good mix between the veterans from the 412 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.480 transfer portal as well as getting very very talented freshman. The big thing is 413 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.079 going to be the sea word for Bobby in that's that cohesiveness or chemistry. 414 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.920 That's something that you definitely had two years ago. When the team won twenty 415 00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.880 three games, the highest total in the Bobby Early era. And what helped 416 00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:02.319 him is only getting talented transfer But he didn't get the Cambridge brothers, the 417 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.720 des and Devon did get Warren Washington, who was a very close to those 418 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.680 Cambridge brothers. So even though you had newcomers on the one hand, they 419 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:15.039 already had that synergy working for them even before they step in MPE last year. 420 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:19.359 Chemistry, cohesion was really nowhere to be fined and nowhere to be found 421 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:23.720 on the team that really is going to have a makeup right now having no 422 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.920 more than three returning players. So the talent is definitely going to be there. 423 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.319 There's no doubt that this is the most talented Boston the Bobby Hurley ever 424 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:37.000 dissembled. Now for that's so called glue to really be present or absent from 425 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:42.960 that rosc that's actually going to dictate asss fortunes, especially in that albsolute killer 426 00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:45.759 conference like the Big Twell, yeah, no question. Now let's move to 427 00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:51.960 another sport real quick as we have like five minutes. Baseball. Baseball issue 428 00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.279 was coming on strong at the end. Did not make the tournament, but 429 00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:59.240 they also lost one of their best players over the last couple of days. 430 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:06.359 Yeah, Thomas Burns, a true freshmen that I really just considered the eighth 431 00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:10.319 of this program. I did decide to transfer out. I think, first 432 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:15.039 and foremost just disappointing that a pitcher that came with so much was and so 433 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:21.759 much anticipation ended up only having six Friday starts fishing just over thirty innings. 434 00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:25.359 Did have a great raa of four pointy seventy five. I think that once 435 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.359 you did have to I had to depart the lineup due to a by st 436 00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:34.319 tendonized injury. That's something that hurt the Says team quite a bit. They 437 00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:38.599 had a lot of young arms on the roster and really went through a vicious 438 00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:42.960 learning curve, and the hope was, Okay, all these freshmens are going 439 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:48.079 to be not sophomores in twenty twenty five, and maybe this team was already 440 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:53.000 a nice lineup of formidable bats can do much better in twenty twenty five. 441 00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:57.680 So living Burns definitely does hurt. I have no doubt in my mind that 442 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:03.319 there's definitely was fueled by a Willie bluinquist. The ACU skipper has not been 443 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:08.839 shy at all talking about the nis struggles that the program is having Thomas Burns 444 00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.960 is somebody who is you expected to play in the last two weeks of the 445 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.880 season, expected to see some action in the fact off tournament, And I 446 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:21.200 don't know if you would or would not play if that actually would help as 447 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.160 you get over the hump and here is their name, Paul in the field 448 00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.759 of sixty four. But I agree with you, Steve, it's definitely a 449 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.880 big loss for our Bomas State and it's really just drop back to the drawing 450 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:37.480 board with their pitchers, because that definitely has been a source part in twenty 451 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.359 twenty four in the trying for it to be much different than twenty twenty five. 452 00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:44.440 Yeah, I covered Thomas Burns in high school at Hortonville, Wisconsin, 453 00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.799 Washington pitch in a state tournament, so kind of unique to see him hit 454 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.119 the transfer portal like that and sticking with the transfer portal but in a different 455 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.240 sport. Wanted to get your perspective on one of the most unique stories of 456 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.279 the past couple of years in college football, and that's Jayden Rashata. Obviously, 457 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.759 his NIL dealer reported ANIL deal with Florida that was floated by a booster 458 00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:07.799 was in the neighborhood of thirteen million, so he comes to that, doesn't 459 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:12.359 work out, comes to ASU, starts quite a bit last year, and 460 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.799 then loses the spring starting quarterback job to Sam Levitt. That transfer from Michigan 461 00:32:15.839 --> 00:32:21.160 State transfers to Georgia to be Carson Beck's backup and back up one of the 462 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.920 Heisman frontrunners coming into this next year, and now he's suing the collective at 463 00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:30.440 the University of Florida. How much has this just been a wild ride following 464 00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.279 the career so far of Jaden and Rashada. I agree with you, well, 465 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:38.400 while arrive is probably an understatement. I think the drama has really followed 466 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:44.799 Jayden Mashada ever since he committed to Miami, which folks may forget that that 467 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:49.960 actually happened before you committed and signed West Florida and had all the nil Tasco 468 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:52.720 going on there. As you know last year from the Sun Devil. He 469 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:59.119 starts the first two games, then supposed to reaggravate a knee injury from high 470 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:04.519 school proceeeds to miss the next nine games. He was healthy and ready to 471 00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:08.839 start for the Territorial Cup game in CMP and in the last team meeting on 472 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:13.880 the Friday night before. He did come late, and that's why he did 473 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.400 not start and did play sparingly in that game. And I'm not saying that 474 00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:21.799 to be started that that would Guaranteeenas to win, But I definitely think this 475 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:25.000 is just a lot of maturity and off fulfilled issues that are picking Jeneram Mashada. 476 00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.799 As you know, in spring practice he was not able to start it 477 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:35.279 fully healthy because of a non football injury that offered a few months before spring 478 00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.640 practice. You guess if you had us the job to Sam Love it and 479 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.799 Sam Love is pretty much on the same level a Jenner Mashaua. He played 480 00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:46.119 four games or lested Richard his long year at Michigan State. So people thought 481 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.640 it would be pretty even race because it's not like any of them has a 482 00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:57.000 lot of experience and in college football. But Jama Mashada in the first half 483 00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.039 of spring practice maybe trying to rush into action because he's off on Levit getting 484 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:05.680 better each and every session, and he just did not look good, did 485 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.440 not look like somebody that could beat some Levitt at all. He figured that 486 00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.880 that's going to be more of the same full camps, so here he is 487 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.639 franswering to Georgia, and no, I don't expect him at all to be 488 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.519 in the mix up for the starting job at Georgia. And what's gonna happen 489 00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:23.320 in twenty twenty five, that's a different story. But I'm just telling you 490 00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:27.800 right now and not to sound like any like solid rapes or anything like that. 491 00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:32.440 I think General Sada is definitely a talented quarterback, but he really needs 492 00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:37.440 to figure out the mental aspect of his game. He really needs to maturity 493 00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.880 level a few notches up, because otherwise he's not going to be successful, 494 00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:45.559 whether it's Georgia or Jogs. So last question, we've got to go maybe 495 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:47.559 if you can make it within a quick one. But you've been doing this 496 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:51.719 long time. I've been doing this long time being accused of being a cragedy, 497 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:57.199 cragity old guy. Where do you think this game is going to And 498 00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:04.079 I'm talking to college athletics in tirety where the kids are getting paid a lot 499 00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:06.559 of money, not just a little money, a lot of money, and 500 00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:10.760 just how how the the young kids today are kind of dictating what it all 501 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.400 means. And I'm not against get them getting paid, but now it's like 502 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:22.119 they're running the programs. Yeah, I think the NAA kills itself on the 503 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.239 hill called amateurism, and now they killed well, they've done the hell I 504 00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:29.599 should say, it's called amateurism and now and now they basically killed the sport. 505 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:35.559 I'm not a big proponent of politics interacting with sports, so uh, 506 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.239 you know, Congress trying to regulate NIL, I guess they have mixed feelings 507 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:43.199 about that. But if you can regulate ni L, it's the revenue sharing 508 00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:47.480 and really overtake NIL or at least regulate it quite a bit. I hope 509 00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:51.639 that's something that can take place. I don't think we're ever going to go 510 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.360 back to the pre n I L or the pre transfer portal day. I 511 00:35:54.400 --> 00:36:00.800 just think the answer the lay screwed up royally did try to overcorrect and now 512 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:05.199 did definitely more harm than good. So again, I really hope that NIL 513 00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:09.320 can I'll be regulated if it can be in the near future or the not 514 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:14.000 or the distance us that anybody's guests right now. But I don't think the 515 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.079 sport right now is in a good place at all. And I'm just really 516 00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:20.480 curious, you know, what's going to happen in the next few years. 517 00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.559 I will see more regulated in nl A. We're going to see more regulated 518 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.239 drafts a portal. I definitely have my dad. Okay, hold, thank 519 00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.920 you very much for joining us. Talk to you later in the summer as 520 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.280 we get prepared for fall ball. Thank you, Hod, Thanks much for 521 00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:37.440 having me. Thanks a buch great Hod Rabino Devil's Die, just good stuff, 522 00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.199 very candid what he has to say. I have some questions for you, 523 00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:44.119 Matt, real quick on the way back out of this break. If 524 00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.559 you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for nearly forty 525 00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:50.840 years. Now take a look back at the Ludelsen era. In my new 526 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.480 book, Lessons from Loot, it was a labor of love through the eyes 527 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:57.159 of twenty five former players, coaches, and friends to give insight to the 528 00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.639 coach and the man who led them, competed against them, and inspired them 529 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:05.280 twenty five chapters for his twenty five years as Arizona's beloved coach. 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A Team offers a fun and exciting opportunity to work 563 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:37.280 in the sports and entertainment industry, with flexible schedules that are perfect for those 564 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.599 looking for a part time job or a second income. Come be a part 565 00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:45.320 of a winning team. The A Team apply online today at a Team security 566 00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:52.000 dot Net. Extreamly live onny iHeartRadio WAF. This is Eye on the Ball 567 00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:58.480 with Steve Rivera and Jacobsalez on Fox sportsporteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back to 568 00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.920 On the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen fIF I'm Steve, He's Matt, He's 569 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.599 Ryan. Have we got about thirteen minutes you guys want to call? We 570 00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.400 have some late breaking news. We'll get to that and then I'll ask the 571 00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.880 question, what do you haven? Yeah, so we got a little bit 572 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:16.800 of news for your University of Arizona football. Luke Iago has committed to the 573 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:22.639 Arizona Wildcats today. He picked you. They over Arizona State, Utah, 574 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:27.559 San Diego State, Oregon, and Oregon State. He's a Phoenix area native 575 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:32.360 as well, six' five, two hundred pounds. He'll be joining McDaniel 576 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:37.559 and Fafida next year. Where's Where's he? He went to high school in 577 00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.239 Peaks Hiley, Gilbert Hickley okay, Gilbri Higgley, Okay, cool another quarterback 578 00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:45.760 in the mix. Yep. He played fourteen games over three seasons, passed 579 00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:51.760 for almost twenty one hundred yards and twenty six touchdowns and eleven interceptions. Yeah, 580 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.199 okay, And then you had a couple more guys from the major leagues. 581 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:59.280 Oh yeah, there's just a little bit of news. I don't have 582 00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.840 the article, but a couple more. Yeah. We talked about the betting 583 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.239 a little bit ago, and there were a few minor league players as well 584 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:12.599 that got suspended for a year for betting as well. Okay, So just 585 00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.880 more of the same, yep, more the same. Yeah, so we 586 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.440 get twelve minutes. Anybody want to call, please do five to four, 587 00:41:17.440 --> 00:41:22.000 one, six forty talk about whatever you want to uh, whatever sports related. 588 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.000 Of course. Let me ask you Ryan, So you're in the business. 589 00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:29.800 Uh, this is my big concern. This is well, Matt, 590 00:41:29.800 --> 00:41:34.400 what do I say, Ryan, Matt, Ryan's I continue to look up. 591 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.239 So let me let me ask you this. So one of the concerns 592 00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:42.440 in this business and in this business here because I think it might go this 593 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.800 way and then and then post post game interviews and stuff. How we have 594 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.519 athletes, we have coaches come on the show, YadA, YadA. But 595 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.320 now I have a sense that some athletes will be asking for money to come 596 00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.599 on the show because you know, it's their time. They want to get 597 00:41:55.639 --> 00:41:59.239 paid. They're getting used to being paid, and now they want to be 598 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.440 paid to come on the show. I talked to a couple of other athletes. 599 00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:06.239 That's been discussed, and that's not gonna happen, right, It's not 600 00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:08.079 gonna happen here at least. Yeah. I think. I think the way 601 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:15.440 that in athletics that interviews and media availability is sort of gate kept is that 602 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:21.199 this is going to be a conduit to the fans and a conduit to you 603 00:42:21.239 --> 00:42:24.000 know, the integrity of journalism, right, and that it's going to be 604 00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:29.079 reporters asking the questions and if they want to control the message. Now players 605 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.280 are players are paid for podcasts and paid for you know, appearances and this, 606 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:36.599 that and the other thing. And there have been advents of that with 607 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.119 NIL where they can have their own platform to do all these things. But 608 00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:44.880 I think they will always be required by whether it's professional sports in the media 609 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:49.800 relations department, or whether it's college sports by the sports information directors. I 610 00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:54.440 think they will always be required to answer those questions from a school standpoint, 611 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:58.440 not necessarily. Man, I'm glad you went through because that was my next 612 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:02.400 question. Okay, you have just of thekit Caitlin Cark situation over the weekend. 613 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.559 The woman I can't remember her name, now push give her the push 614 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:09.679 in the back, right, whatever did go to the press? Commerce she 615 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:15.480 doesn't discuss it. I will not be taking any Klark questions. And that's 616 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:17.639 that's her prerogative, right, she can say whatever she wants to at the 617 00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:21.639 podium, and and and and that's the case. But okay, so they 618 00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.639 go to the podium, what's the point if we're not talking about the about 619 00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:27.400 the story that you're looking for, Because I think the point is asking the 620 00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.280 question, you know, I think because I bring it back to the Roadrunners. 621 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:32.440 Right, So, when we had the whole thing a couple of months 622 00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:37.239 ago of the Roadrunners potentially moving to Tempe, and that's been resolved. They're 623 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.559 gonna play thirty games in Tucson next year six and Tempe. But when when 624 00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.840 Coyotes owner Alex Morello had said on a Phoenix radio station that he was planning 625 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:50.039 to move the Roadrunners to Tempe. I went down to to Son Convention Center, 626 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.960 to Son Arena and waited for postgame UH to ask head coach Steve Potman 627 00:43:54.159 --> 00:44:00.639 about that situation and about the future of the Roadrunners into so hope to get 628 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:05.239 what, hoping to get an answer, hoping to get Were you optimistic that 629 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.760 you would get that answer? I was optimistic that I would get a true 630 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:15.599 insight into his feelings of it information. I was not after the insight into 631 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:19.920 his feelings around the situation and to give voice to the franchise that could face 632 00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.280 an uncertain future. That's what I was looking for. Okay. Adrian Denny, 633 00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:25.719 who's the tremendous media relations person and play by play man for the tuc 634 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:30.159 Sound Roadrunners, he said, you know, this is a tough spot for 635 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:34.360 us to be in. We don't want two questions about the Coyotes or the 636 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.440 move. And I said, look, Adrian, he can say no comment, 637 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:40.320 Steve pop and the head coach can say no comment, but my camera 638 00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:45.599 has to hear me asking the question for the integrity of this situation. And 639 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:47.440 he said okay, and then Steve Popkin answered the question. Gave me a 640 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.079 great SoundBite, and then that was bringing everything full circle. So I think 641 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.639 when it comes to all this, yes, they anybody can refuse to answer 642 00:44:55.719 --> 00:45:00.119 any question that you want. That is okay, but the question needs to 643 00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:01.639 be asked, and the question needs to be being asked. I'll give you 644 00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:05.079 another point, okay, And that's a good point to my question. Here's 645 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:09.039 another point, okay. So you have somebody kicks the field goal, and 646 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:13.280 I've seen this before, the kicks the winning field goal, misses, the 647 00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.239 winning field go misses the potential winning field goal, and guess who's not at 648 00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:21.280 the podium. Yeah yeah, And then you know, and that happens in 649 00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.559 an open locker room. You go to ask the question right in a situation 650 00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:29.039 like we have today. At many places they're not made available. But you 651 00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:31.159 know, I mean in professional locker rooms too. I've seen some situations where 652 00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:36.039 somebody makes a big blunder and you know, runs away and hangs out in 653 00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.039 the showers till media till the locker rooms closed, or just heads straight to 654 00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:42.239 his car and goes home. Things like that. It happens at every level 655 00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.480 of sports. But I think the window still needs to be open for those 656 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:47.880 interviews being a possibility and you know you're not gonna bat a thousand. Ever, 657 00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.159 we never do, do we. Well, no, it's especially if 658 00:45:52.480 --> 00:45:57.199 we're relying on the what they decide or who decides to get to the podium 659 00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:01.599 exactly. That said, that said, darn I had another quick question as 660 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:07.079 uh, and so you say, you say they were not made available. 661 00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.880 Utty, pretty easy to do that because they make the job easy for you. 662 00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.159 Uh. And that happens more than than it should. It does, 663 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:17.119 it doesn't. It's more prevalent in college programs as well. But I think 664 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:23.360 at the same by the same token, everybody to some extent is after or 665 00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:29.119 is desiring the integrity of their program and the transparency of their programs. And 666 00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.599 I think people want that because fans feel more connected when they're being told the 667 00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:37.000 truth. Yeah, okay, so i'll give you the the organ organ the 668 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:42.840 the USC situation with the Orange County Register, YEP, same kind of difference. 669 00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:45.199 Uh. They didn't like the questions, they didn't like to told the 670 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:47.400 story we're going to try to pull your creditial. That went to crap. 671 00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.559 And and and that's the good thing. It went to crap because people stood 672 00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.679 behind the paper and the questions that's more like it. But what about now 673 00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:00.719 that you get the kids are paid. Now they're more professional actually or professionally 674 00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:05.119 our amateur, and they choose not to deal with this, uh because now 675 00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:07.440 they're getting paid, they can call their shots yaha, YadA. I get 676 00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.559 a sense that that's gonna happen too, potentially, especially if they're being paid 677 00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:14.519 by the university. But I think I look at this too in a two 678 00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.800 pronged way, whether it's NIL or being paid by the university. If they're 679 00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:20.639 being paid by the university, they can be required to talk. And if 680 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.320 they're being paid by ANIL, they want to talk, or they have incentives 681 00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:29.039 to talk because they're advertising dollars. A lot of times they're extra ANIL opportunities 682 00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:30.840 are based on their public persona, and if they go up there and own 683 00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.159 it, they're more likely to keep or get a new deal. So last 684 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.119 week I called you happy Gilboard because you're a very happy guy. I am, 685 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:43.440 well, I was just gas into your world because you're Pollyanna with all 686 00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.719 this, and I'm not sure it's realistic, maybe not, maybe not. 687 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:50.320 I've never I've never been said as a reckless realist, more of a reckless 688 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.519 optimist, Yes very much. So I'm thinking, where are you coming from? 689 00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.639 But how much is breand in your world? Well? So, I 690 00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:58.880 do, though, ask myself a lot of these questions all the time, 691 00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.039 because we see these ish shoes, probably in the media in sports, and 692 00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:06.920 I think about I think of sports in a very much what would I do 693 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.639 next situation? And a lot of these situations I believe have come up in 694 00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:15.079 media scenarios. And even with the USC situation, when that came up and 695 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:20.159 Lincoln Riley trying to you know, sort of shadow band the reporter from covering 696 00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.559 practices and games and things like that, I asked myself what would I do 697 00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:28.000 in that situation? And I think coming up with solutions before the problems present 698 00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.559 themselves, are coming up with potential ways around it, and being strategic about 699 00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:36.599 these things makes us more prepared as reporters and also from a fans perspective, 700 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:39.199 more prepared as watchers of sports for when things inevitably change. Okay, so 701 00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:44.360 you bring up to fans a couple of times. Now you know, fans 702 00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.679 don't give a crap about our job. Now they don't They don't care how 703 00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.000 you come up with the story. No, they just want the story. 704 00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:53.960 If you get the story without pissing the people you're telling the story up at 705 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:59.079 you abe because there's a big there's a big fandom obviously, right. But 706 00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:02.800 if you if you go after the story and they don't, they don't appreciate 707 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:06.760 how you went about going the story. That's when they care, right, 708 00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:08.519 not not whether you've got the story or not. Exactly Does that make sense? 709 00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:12.599 Exactly? Yeah, So you have to do it not with kid gloves, 710 00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:15.119 because you have to do your job. However, you have to do 711 00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:16.880 your job. But you know what I'm saying, I think it comes down 712 00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:22.760 to operating with fairness and operating with sense of transparency. That's right. People 713 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.039 care about transparency when things go wrong. So if you operate with a sense 714 00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:29.719 of transparency at all times, then they never have to wonder and it never 715 00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:31.719 has to be a It never has to be a well you're throwing us, 716 00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.639 you're throwing us for a loop, or you're throwing you're putting putting us on 717 00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.519 a scent of a trail that doesn't exist, or things like that. You're 718 00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:42.320 not being transparent as the media, and I think people have a lot of 719 00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:46.480 even in sports, I think they're that has a lot of twist trust in 720 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:50.519 the media. Does that. Twitter's done that, right, Twitter's done that. 721 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:52.599 So now I think I hope I didn't ask this question already. Give 722 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.760 them an age and forgetting Okay, so now they're more professional, ye, 723 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:04.039 should they be treated as such criticism at all? You remember the GUNDI Obviously 724 00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.519 you're probably school. Absolutely, I'm a man, I'm forty, man, 725 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:12.000 I'm forty now the kids are not forty, but they make pretty good money. 726 00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:19.280 Right. I've always approached asking college athletes questions in a very similar way 727 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:24.800 that I've approached NFL individuals because and other professional sports athletes, because I think 728 00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:34.280 if you approach things as a way of holding people accountable to the results and 729 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:38.400 their craft while respecting the effort and time it took to get them there and 730 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:44.199 get them to a point where you know they're working hours and hours and hours 731 00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:47.119 behind the scenes, and you are judging them on three hours and going into 732 00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:52.679 that, going into that situation where you're asking the questions and knowing that this 733 00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:57.280 three hours may or may not be representative of the work they put in, 734 00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:01.760 I think it carries a little bit more respect of I'm going to hold them 735 00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.760 accountable for the results because a lot of people are, but I'm going to 736 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:07.880 be fair to the process that they've put in, and I think I think 737 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:13.400 there needs to be more of a leveling of how we in the media treat 738 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.320 professional athletes versus college athletes because I think, for you know, especially in 739 00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:21.199 the early stages of my career, a lot of situations, people would not 740 00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.559 ask the questions, not ask the true questions needed to be asked to athletes, 741 00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:28.159 very true, very true, because they wanted to be nice to them 742 00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:30.400 or kind to them, and not fair is not the right word. Kind 743 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.719 to them is. But I think your fairness, your fairness word that you 744 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:40.519 used earlier, fairness and transparent is what it's all about. And with the 745 00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:45.960 athletes knowing who you are, I mean you general like me general and showing 746 00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:50.280 up and showing up and being there for a long time, they're familiar with 747 00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.119 you. They understand that you're the guy that's going to ask those questions. 748 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:57.400 Bruce Bruce comes is like that. Bruce and I competed each other for twenty 749 00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.559 years coming to the basketball team, and Bruce was the bad guy. I 750 00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:06.000 was a good guy in all honesty, and I benefited and he did too, 751 00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:07.360 because they would give us. They give me the answer, give him 752 00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.000 the answers, and we both benefited from the issues. But we were there 753 00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:15.320 every day, all the time. So I get that point here. It's 754 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:17.760 not the case because you can't be their their netle didn't allow you. Yeah, 755 00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:22.000 and now you're you're at their whim of who you talk to. But 756 00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.920 I think to bring this discussion full circle, I think that there is with 757 00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.280 this era of athlete empowerment, whether it comes to NIL, whether it comes 758 00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:35.679 to social media, anything in that respect, that there are so many athletes 759 00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.000 controlling the message that there may be more of a need now more than ever, 760 00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:43.199 for reporters and for other people to be able to ask the questions, 761 00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:47.119 to hold them to transparency because they don't have to be transparent because they want 762 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:52.039 to control their own message. So the ability to hold them to transparency and 763 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:53.920 hold them accountable for that, I think it's may be more valuable than ever 764 00:52:54.039 --> 00:53:00.079 right now. Now they have to understand that exactly. Good luck with it 765 00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:06.159 you probably yeah, happy gilmore. You thank you for joining us, joining 766 00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:08.599 me and for the last three days, three out of four. Good lucky. 767 00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:12.559 We'll probably talk to you again soon. It very much. Thank you 768 00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.159 Ryan for your time here. Today we're going to see Jay back. I 769 00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:17.320 think he's on his way back, right, he's listening to us with a 770 00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:21.840 nice new a nice new tan, and maybe fit more fit. He's walking 771 00:53:21.880 --> 00:53:23.679 the beaches. We see you tomorrow, everybody, thanks for joining me.