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From the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots

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Jeep Ram. It's Billified the Bill
Moran Podcast. Well, hello friends,

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welcome, thanks for getting your pot
on telling your friends about the podcast.

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All fun things are happening, Danny, fun things are happening. It's always

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fun at Bill a fight, Well, it is fun, it is and

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uh and then why is it that
when we have friends that seem to be

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evident tough moment, that's two of
us have been laughing ourselfs sick over.

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I wive you even wrote a parody
song in two minutes. In two minutes,

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yeah, the song by super Tramp
was Yeah, what's the Stranger Dude?

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Yeah? And I kept my lyrics
to it for people that we know

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they are having a tough time.
But the thing, because we love these

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people that we know, we mean
them no harm. No. I learned

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you're the commercial of the eighties where
the where the dad with the mustache finds

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he comes home in a blue shirt
to tie and he finds drugs under his

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kids. Beddy goes, who taught
you how to do this stuff? And

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the kid goes you all right?
Watching you? I feel like, oh,

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don't from you with the day to
CNF you and Tommy, I learned

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how to. I picked up that
acquired taste, that that learned behavior of

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making fun of people's You know what
I shot in freud all you all you

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pussies, And I'm gonna say this
is pussies. Won't stand up and take

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the blame yourself. I have been
told by people, I got mirandomized.

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You got nothing. You had it
in you, folks. I just happened

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to stoke the fire. That's it. You saw it. You liked you

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saw that. I got laughs from
people. You saw that we were laughing.

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Dude laughs. Laughter. Laughter is
like alcohol, right, It reveals

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who you really are, it does. It does. Now. I feel

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bad about this, but at the
same time, it's just funny because I

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kind of went, yeah, it
fits. It makes sense that that this

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is whatever was planned is not going
to be planned. Fits. Yes,

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I can look at I I don't
know again, not to get all weird

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again. I got weird last night
on the podcast. Did you laugh a

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little bit with Doug? Yeah,
I was just talking about I think that's

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contagious too. What's that getting weird
from Dug? He draws the weird out

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ladies and gentlemen, but your pop
together better. This was not the that

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wasn't it. I was just talking
about, like, uh, just my

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kids and doing stuff. But I
feel like now you can you almost need

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the ten thousand view, the ten
thousand view foot foot ten thousand foot foot

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view. That's what it is I'm
trying to say of life, because you

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can see all the bullshit that goes
on and see it for what it is,

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and you can kind of step back
from a little bit. It's almost

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like people who have talked about out
of body experiences. I was able to

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see Nikola Tesla. That's what I
brought up last night. Nikola Tesla was

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the inventor. Not the band.
No okay, no, not the band,

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not the car, not the but
Nikola Tesla was the inventor and probably

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the guy really invented radio. Not
Marconi, who has an award named after

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him, but him, and he
was into he was more into frequencies and

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waves. And he had a healing
machine that many people don't know about,

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and he tried to bring it around
Europe and they squashed it down. But

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his he and other side, yeah, he and other scientists believe that all

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diseases ran on frequency, and if
you hit it with the right frequency,

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you could eradicate it. Okay.
YouTube's got a bunch of frequency channels.

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Okay, Well there you go.
See what I'm saying. All right,

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so there is some truth to that
and everything runs on frequency and whatever.

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But I uh, I don't even
know where I was gonna go. Now

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you lost it. I lost it. Well, you're talking about the moment

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you had with your kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But there was

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something with Tesla that I was bringing
up on purpose, But I don't know.

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You can just sort of see these
things sort of unfold. Oh what

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I was taking about the experience,
Here's what it was, Nikola. Tesla

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was a guy who what you would
probably today call a hallucination. Okay,

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so he was one of the few
guys. What do we know about Thomas

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Edison. Thomas Edison was one of
these guys who goes He would just do

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it and do it and do it
and do it until he got it right.

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I was just reading about him today
Bible, okay, and how he

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like he every time he failed,
He's like, oh right, created a

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new opportunity to try again. Nicola
Tesla didn't have that. He had what

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I can only describe as from the
things I've read, hallucinations, where he

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would basically almost daydream or hallucinate that
he invented something, he was working with

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it, there was a problem,
and in the hallucination he would take it

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apart and fix it, and then
when he actually built it, there was

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no problems. Okay, does that
make you see what I'm saying? Right?

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Start? So right, he could
visualize it all from start to finish,

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but he could actually he was there
in the moment fixing it. He

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could solve what the problem was,
so he knew when he actually built it,

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don't do this, do it this
way and it will work. He

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didn't have to go back to home
deep there. There wasn't a million of

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those fucking things. There wasn't a
million, Like there wasn't Thomas Edison do

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it and do it and do it. Uh. He was just a brilliant

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but probably a hybrid being. I
would almost feel like, right, So

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I'm just saying that sometimes in life
you can sort of step back and you

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can you can see it. You
can see the shit unfolding. It's almost

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like you're way up high in an
airplane and you see two trains that don't

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each other coming around the turn and
you go, oh, right, like

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you can see it right? Well, you can see it with people,

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well the guy we're talking about,
and I just I could see couldn't you

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see it? Kind of see it? You're like, hang on right?

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Or really, even things in my
own life with people in my life,

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I'll go, I see what's happening
here? But you got to learn to

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step back, take nothing to personally, try to always be positive. And

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if you have people you have a
hard time dealing with, my suggestion would

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be focus on those things that you
like about the most, even even if

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there's not a lot. Just focus
on the thing that you like about them

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the most, whatever it is.
Maybe they make great cookies, I don't

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know, but focus on that they
make them with love something and I guarantee

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you'll get a little bit more of
that and less of the other. OK.

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I love these people. No no, no, no, no no

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no, That's just what I'm saying. I'm talking about just in jet I'm

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not saying you don't love these people. That's not what I meant. I'm

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just saying, when there's people you
we don't want to deal with. Oh

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yeah, I see, and we
can kind of see in our mind.

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How many times do we, like, like, okay, Tesla hallucinated how

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to invent shit? How many times? How many times have you had an

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argument in your head with another being
human being and they're not there? It

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never no, but it never it
never came to be, never existed every

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single day. Yeah you know what
I tell them, I'll tell you what,

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motherfucker. And you're like yelling at
the mirror or yelling in your head.

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It's a hallucination. Yeah. My
neighbor came over the other day goes,

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are you having a sports radio show? Because you've been talking for like

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a half hour to nobody. Did
he really? No, But I could

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see it happened. I'm just saying, like everybody has done that. It's

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the same thing. But it doesn't
do you any good. My point is,

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step back, start to think instead
of arguing with that person, because

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that makes you feel shitty, It
wastes your time, You get nothing done.

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All of a sudden, you've spent
forty five minutes in your head arguing

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with You're in a bad mood.
You walk in somewhere, you carry that

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back, but nothing has happened,
not a fucking thing. It was all

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up here because that's where life has
lived in your head. And what I'm

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saying is, instead of arguing with
that person, go okay, you know

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what, that person is really dedicated
to their job and they do a great

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job at it and I really appreciate
it, and blah blah, and I

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guarantee you have no arguments with that
person, right, But instead we do

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this other thing. And I'm saying, use the time to be like Tesla

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and hallucinates. I don't know something
that's gonna make the world better, please,

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you need to work on the flip
side. Though. Do you ever

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have that person And we all know
several of them in our own personal lives

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go back to when we were kids
that they weren't necessarily a bs er,

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they actually believed their own bs I'm
gonna talk about Braggett. I'm talking about

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like, there was this one kid
that I grew up with, and he

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was kind of a geek, and
he was known for being a geek,

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and he kind of embraced it,
right, and he lived in a trailer

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park and nothing there's a thing wrong
with those things. But he came from

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very humble beginnings, and he kept
saying, you know, after my paper

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routes that I'm gonna buy a Corvette, okay, and he believed it,

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like and it was like we had
Ernie, you're gonna have to sell a

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lot of papers, right, yeah, but he really like believe never happened,

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but he really believed it. It
was like, there's another guy I

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know who's like, yeah, so
on Florida. I'm going to Florida in

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a couple of years. They hired
me to run a plant. A couple

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of years go by, Hey,
well it was the pandemic. I couldn't

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go down. So a couple of
years, they're gonna bring me back in

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about a year when it's over.
And the year goes by, well they

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haven't. They're gonna probably push it
back another couple of years. A couple

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of years go by, it's like, hey, you're gonna go in Florida.

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Still, so you're bringing up a
great thing and that this is a

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great thing. But I'm not knocking. No, no, no, you're

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not. It's dreams. And then
we've I remember a kid. There was

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this big fat kid and he's on
the say it was the football team.

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I won't say his name. I
used to, you say, you say

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that you learned being a dick being
around me and guys like Be and Tommy.

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I used to it was this heavier
set kid, uh, smart guy,

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honor society, but heavy set,
and he was I used to always

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sing shamoo every time I saw him, and I would go shamoo, shamoo,

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and then and then and he once
grabbed me, got hold of my

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hand and like bent my fingers back
really bad, and I'm just laughing and

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I think he almost broke my finger. But I finally had to like punch

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him in the ribs to get him
to let go. But he was And

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I remember once being on I got
injured. I was sitting on the bench.

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I was like practically trying not to
cry. My ankle got so probably

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got twisted the op like a right, and uh, He's sitting there going

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you know, I'm the biggest,
fastest, strongest, best looking person on

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the team. And my tears went
to absolute fucking hysterics. I couldn't stop

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laughing. I couldn't stop laughing.
I could not I just was laughing and

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laughing in this guy's face. And
he wasn't a bad look kid, but

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he believed it, and I credited. And as I got older, I

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watched what happened, and I knew
his family a little bit, and I

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went, yeah, all right,
he went on. I think he went

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to Binghamton and then to dental school
and has a successful dental practice and probably

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makes a lot of money. The
best looking people come out of buy office.

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Well, I don't know. The
ball I can tell you is that

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sometimes you have to have you got
to put a little action behind it.

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Yeah, I would, I would
say inspired. Actually I want to buy

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the Corvette. Well, okay,
what's the plan. I'm here, I

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got a paper route that's not going
to get me to the corvette. But

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if I get the paper route and
then maybe collect the cans and I also

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do another thing, maybe I can
get to the Corvette. Each thing gets

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you a little closer, is what
I'm trying to say. Delivering papers from

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the age of twelve to age like
twenty five. All right, Well,

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it's his full time job, I
mean, through school and everything. Yeah

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again, not knocking him, but
I mean like he but he kept reiterating

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it to a point where we're like, but there is that thing where you're

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like, you're you're you want to
say to somebody, buddy, this is

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never gonna work, right, It's
never gonna work, but you've gotta But

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if you really believe in something and
you put it doesn't even feel like work

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when you're really pouring yourself into something. I really want this corvette. There's

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other ways to make money, make
more money. You fall in love with

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the process. Yeah, you get
into what I like to call the flow

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stay where things just kind of flow
and go right along. Speaking of that,

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today, somebody came in here and
uh, just walked in out of

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the blue. The guy was like
pacing outside, a guy I don't know.

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I forget how old I am and
how old I actually look. I

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would say he was a little bit
older than me, but I don't know.

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And all of a sudden he and
I was doing something, and uh,

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he kind of opens the door and
it's like should I be quiet?

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Kind of you know, the more
of the hand motions like like this,

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and I said, uh. I
look at him and goes, uh,

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what is this? So excuse me? He goes, what is this?

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I said, this is where I
do my podcast. All right, I'm

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new, I'm new here. I
said, okay. Now, for some

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reason, the guy had the mannerisms
of a prisoner, like you know what

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I mean. He came in,
he was loud, he was kind of

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loud, and he was standing and
I didn't. I for whatever reason,

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something in me said, I'm not
getting up. I'm not engaging with this.

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I'm just not I'm not getting engaging. So I sat there and I

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was and he goes, so,
uh, people can rent it. I

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said, no, this is for
my podcast. Yeah, but I mean

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people can also rent it. And
I said, no, it's mine.

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I do my podcast here. And
I said another project that I'm working on.

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Well, what's this, pointing at
the other microphones that are around the

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studio like here and here, I'm
showing them on the cameras. We'll have

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some other guests in a while,
and I said, I go. He

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goes, you get guests and stuff. I have other guys to do the

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podcast with you, all right,
I'm from Brooklyn. I said, I

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don't say anything. I'll tell you
what, man, people around here,

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there's something to tell you about the
people around here. And I'm like,

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so, I'm doing the math in
my head. I'm going you're a guy

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who looks to be over fifty five. You moved here now the only way

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you moved here from Brooklyn, Okay, And you made a point of saying

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I'm new here. At fifty five, you're usually only new somewhere if you're

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moving to be closer to family,
or you get possibly got transferred by a

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job. But usually at fifty five, you're either winding down your career or

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your They have you as the CEO
and they go, listen, man,

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we need you to fix Rochester and
can we're gonna put you there? That

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guy didn't that. That wasn't this
guy. I could tell. So I'm

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going, all right, So I'm
just listening, and I'm going I have

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a feeling that this dude there's a
halfway house here. I don't know where,

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but I think somewhere there's a halfway
house and he's out of prison.

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That's what I'm thinking. And he
doesn't because he's going, I'll tell you

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people around here a little different,
a little different around here, and he

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goes, I'm just trying to get
out and uh meet some people. You

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get to know, get to know
people or something. Well, you just

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walk in a place and go,
what is this it's not how you get

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to know somebody unless you're in prison. Well you know what I'm saying,

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it's like prison matters. And I'm
thinking to myself, Yes, people,

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I don't think that wouldn't fly in
Brooklyn either. No, you walk in,

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go what's this and get the fuck
outs what it is? You know?

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I mean, I'm like, so
I just sit there and he said,

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uh, so you got a card
for me? How do I listen?

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And I said, no, I
know. He goes, well where

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I find it? I go,
It's called Billified. It's on the wall

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right behind me. I said,
anywhere you get podcasts, from Apple to

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Spotify to s Breaker to wherever Amazon. Let me take a picture of my

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memory's bad. So he takes a
picture and I just sit here and he

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turns around and leaves, and I'm
like that, let's say it's like,

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let's tell you it was a female
owned business or something. He comes walking

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in. I'm just trying to make
friends. People are straight. Yeah,

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I know there's a haircut, but
yeah, but I'm just saying, like,

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and I know that not that,
but yeah, you don't understand what

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I'm saying. I'm like, what
the fuck is this? Yeah, you

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come in. What is this?
What do you do? Anybody can do

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it? What do you mean anybody
can do it? Well? You rent

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it out? I go, No, I don't rent it out. I

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don't. I don't want to.
I don't need to. It's like,

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but it was, it was just
interesting. I'm watching this. I go,

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I have a feeling, and I
would love to now now I'm on

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a mission. I want to find
this guy again and go, Okay,

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when'd you get out? That's what
I want to say, right when when

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they release you. Yeah, that
adds up, I mean because of it.

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Yes, it just it just makes
too much sense. I mean,

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you know, when you see something
out of whack, like what's wrong with

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this picture? And we encounter it
about ten, eleven, twelve times a

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day, we just don't We're just
so busy with ourselves that we don't,

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you know, explore it, or
we don't have the time. But I

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mean, you're sitting here. It's
like a fishbowl. Really, if you

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sit down here, folks, it's
like a fishbowl. People just walk by

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here all the time and they peek
in and they wave. We may never

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talk to these people. It appens
during the show all the time. You

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just wave and say hello, and
then they wave and they go back by

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again and that's about it. So
there's really like I could see this guy's

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kind of hanging out. Well,
you don't serve food, you're not cutting

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hair, you're not building stuff.
Well you're not a law I always say,

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it's a unique thing. Yeah,
you see you a picture, took

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a conference table with mike, phones, cameras, lights, a big wide

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window, giant screen TV on their
logo on the back. Oh yeah,

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what is it? And I have
no problem with that? Hey man,

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what is this way different than what's
this? What's thish? Okay? Anyway,

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there was a shooting. Something happened
at Pittsford Wegmans. We're gonna I

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don't want to know anything. I
have purpose did not look at this.

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I have three scenarios in my mind
as to what may have happened. Deputy

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Hurley from the Monroe County Sheriff's Department, he's also the basically the spokesperson for

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the Sheriff's department. He will come
on and update us, but I'm going

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to run my scenarios by him first. He's recovered from the eclipse. Yes,

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I think you recovered from the he
went on vacation. He was on

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vacation last week. I know that. So we will talk to him.

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Then the guys from if you ever
watch Discovery Channel, excuse me, Discovery

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Channels Street Racers, no prep,
they are coming with that TV show to

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Empire Drags. We will talk to
the guys from Empire Drags and tell you

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how you can be there. Get
tickets to this. It's a big event.

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It's a really cool thing to see. And in the top ten I

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believe for the street outlaw racers,
there are two women in the top ten.

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Oh wow, yeah, which I
find really impressive. And maybe that's

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maybe I don't know if that's misogynistic
or not of me, but I go,

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that's pretty damned but I like it. I like it. My neighbors

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named one of their dogs Jesse,
after this famous female racer who was trying

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to set the speed record a few
years ago, and unfortunately she passed away

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in doing so. But I mean, there's a lot of women. There's

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a lot, right, There's a
lot of women who race all the time

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and they love and all you need
is nerves is steal great reflexes. I

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mean, it takes a lot more
than that, but you got to have

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those. Yeah, that base slide
down, I couldn't do it. Yeah,

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it's the America's fastest street racers are
back for their wildest ride yet in

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the all new format of Discovery Channels. Street out Laws, no prep kings,

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That's what it is. I want
to make sure I got the name

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right. It was still in the
printer over there. I apologize, I

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got up, I tripped over wid
what's this foot? And then we will

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be talking a little draft stuff with
our friend Tim Graham from the Athletic.

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All that coming up next. Cobblestone
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did that go by? Fast?
Delicious food? I'm telling you you know

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how much I love this place.
I'm having my son's graduation dinner there from

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college. I think the food is
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the relatives that are coming in.
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event fifty people or more, they've
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fantastic. It's locally sourced, craft
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playing all the music you love from
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Then you've got the Acoustic Sunset Sessions
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Marty Alaco playing those always nice to
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event Barks and Bourbon that's going on. That begins at two thirty and goes

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to a five thirty. Then you've
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They'll kind of cross over there three
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it's one of everybody's favorites, Relive
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at eight thirty all at Iron Smoke
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York? Baby, We've bilified a
voicemail anytime. I'm a Victor Chrysler Dodge

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Jeep ramline at five eight five two
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Hey Bill, Sorry I didn't say
hello earlier. You know I'm gonna

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tell you something, And I've always
believed this. Finally somebody said it,

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and he said it on your fucking, god damn podcast, and right fucking

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if you look at the off top
through reports, nobody ever talks about this

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Ron Goldman fought his fucking ass off. From what I understand, his defensive

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wounds were every phone in both hands
was fucking broken. That guy fucking that

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dude, she fucking fought his ass
off. And again O J comes out

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with a scratch on a finger from
cutting a glass in a hotel in Chicago.

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I don't know, bro, I'm
just saying this, Ron Goleman fucking

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fucking the fucking his ass off.
And I'm gonna tell you right now,

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you come up with me with a
knife, you might get me. You

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know you ain't getting the cut on
your fingers. And be sure to like

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and subscribe to Bilifysapple. That's right, It's interesting. I mean it was,

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Uh. He always leaves voicemails.
I appreciate h that guy, Vinny

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Wonder be there. I just I
just have a gun and rock thing.

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No, now, you got me
to train of thought. But I mean,

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yeah, it's my father always insisted
that somebody else did the die think

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I think, and the prosecution never
explored it because if you think about it,

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I mean OJ was definitely responsible.
If he didn't commit the killings,

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he was definitely there when it happened. But like the fact that Rob Goldba

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had all those injuries and he's half
Ojay's age. Oj was forty six,

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he had arthritis. I mean,
for crying out loud, you mean to

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tell me that Oja was able to
like pull this off by himself. No

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way, Yeah, I guess that's
Yeah. I'm starting to come around on

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that theory truly. Like I really
am starting to believe now. The whole

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mob thing I don't buy because the
mob doesn't handle things. Yeah, it's

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clean, it's quick. They just
pulled right up to you, like let's

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say, in a supermarket and then
they go right. That's what I was

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afraid was happening here today. I
wasn't getting up. I was just sitting

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here. I don't know what the
fuck's happening. Uh, let's speaking of

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guns. Yeah, something happened in
Pittsford. We're calling Deputy Hurley. We're

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a little bit late for Deputy Hurley, but I think I think it will

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He'll be kind enough to come on
and hopefully give me let me run my

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scenarios by him. Deputy Hurley.
How is vacation, sir? It was

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fantastic. Yeah, after the first
day the eighty two degrees. Damn,

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I know, right, yeah,
all right, I'll tell I'll take that.

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I mean, after the eclipse,
it had to be exhausting. I'm

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so glad that. No, I'll
tell you what people listened for a change.

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That's what I think. Yeah,
yeah, that was nice for sure.

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So something happened in Pittsford today.
I don't want you to say what

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it is. I want to run
what went through my mind when I when

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I saw something flash across my phone. Pittsford for people who don't know,

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it would be like Kenny Bunk,
Maine, Alexandria, Virginia, Carmel,

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California. It's Pittsford. It's nice, it's it's clean. It's not Malibu

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where a little you know, a
little chic. It's a little more but

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established old money more or less would
be how I would describe Bosun. And

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I would say, that's not where
shootings and things happened. And there was

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a shooting in the in the Wagman's
parking lot. At least was what flashed

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across my phone. Is that correct, Deputy earlier? Okay, so here's

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what I thought. I go,
Okay, here's here's what I think could

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have happened, and one of three
things. Uh So, one of the

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Pittsford ladies that lunches saw a gun, thought it was very cute, and

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she had talked to her friends and
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So she bought this cute little gun
and she had it in her Kate Spade

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purse and she was coming out loading
her groceries and it fell out, went

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off accidentally, and it took out
the tire of a wagon ear two rows

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over and it made a loud boom
when the tire just exploded from this unexpected

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bullet. Is that what happened today
in Pittsford? No, okay, all

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right, all right, okay,
hang on, here's here's my other here's

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my other one. Uh. Some
Now, I think that Pittsford is one

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of the few towns in our area
where I would say women are more likely

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to cheat on their husbands than husbands
are likely to cheat on their wives.

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And yeah, and I say that
because, uh, there's the women that

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lunch that live in Pittsford. They
got a lot of time on their hands.

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Yeah, right after the workout,
they get their glass of wine and

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their husbands are usually probably working a
lot, busy, got other things.

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And then when they're done, after
their stressful jobs, the last thing you

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want to do is hear about their
stupid day. So they don't really talk

406
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,839
to their wives. Pure cocktail.
They want to go play golf, They

407
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,640
want to do so, they want
to blow off steam. They don't want

408
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,680
to listen to her. So she
has been having an affair and the husband

409
00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,200
found out, and uh, he
followed them to the Pittsford Wegmans because that's

410
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,720
where she was going, and that's
where she meets. She meets Andre,

411
00:28:04,319 --> 00:28:11,680
the yoga teacher. Yeah, yeah, Andre the teacher and the j At

412
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,000
the end of the Andre Andre and
so Andre, so they meet, they

413
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,400
meet in the high end bread isle
where you have like the monk bread and

414
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:26,039
stuff the eight dollars a low bread
bread alone. And so now, uh,

415
00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:27,960
he's out in the parking lot and
he sees this and he just fires

416
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,240
a warning shot in the air,
Andre, stay away from my wife.

417
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:36,799
Was that was that the case today? Well, I think I would say

418
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,000
that, uh, law enforcement is
not a career that you should pursue.

419
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:48,440
However, romance novels and up operas
may be good. That is then the

420
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,000
other thing I thought. The third
thing I thought, Deputy, was that

421
00:28:52,279 --> 00:28:57,200
I thought possibly people have had it
with the high prices. If I remember

422
00:28:57,319 --> 00:29:02,119
Father of the Bride with Steve Martin, he was just wanted he didn't want

423
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:06,440
eight hot dog bunds. He wanted
six hot dog bunds, six hot dog

424
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,759
bugs, right, I remember this
movie vividly. But somebody at the Butt

425
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:12,480
Company and somebody at the hot Dog
got together had said, let's rip off

426
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,359
the American public. They saw twelve
buds at eight hot dogs. Now people

427
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,960
are getting sick of the high prices. People were talking about how the percentage

428
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,759
that it's gone up just since the
beginning of the year, with groceries and

429
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:27,279
things, the cost of eggs.
All this is somebody had just snapped and

430
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,039
they went to Wegmans and they just
fired a warning shot through the window.

431
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,279
I don't think that one is accurate
either. Unfortunately, I can't rule anything

432
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:41,680
out because we're not clear on what
the motive is. There you go,

433
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:48,640
I can tell you is there was
a gentleman waiting, we believe, waiting

434
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,960
for his groceries to be delivered.
How you pull up ever since COVID and

435
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,799
they'll bring in your groceries to you. Yes, and another vehicle pulled up

436
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,680
and fire shot at his vehicle.
Oh, and then that vehicle took off.

437
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:04,440
Uh. You know, we're canvassing
the area. We're checking surveillance footage,

438
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,279
the traffic cameras, all that to
track down where the car went and

439
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,960
try to figure out who this person
was and why they did what they did.

440
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:17,720
But okay, you close, I'm
going to scenario two. I'm going

441
00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:22,440
back to scenario two. Andre's picked
up his groceries, Andrea the yoga teachers

442
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,839
picking up his groceries, and this
guy came out. It just fired a

443
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,720
shot right into uh, right into
the right into the wall there. No,

444
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,680
I know, I always tell you
in law enforcement, we can't rule

445
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,200
out anything until we can prove it. So that may be true, but

446
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:41,119
I can't confirm or deny yet.
Okay, sounds like a mob hit,

447
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:45,559
it does. It does sound like
a bit of the Sopranos. Yeah,

448
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,880
I mean, the thing is like
like we always say, that just doesn't

449
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,240
happen right in the greater in that
area, and so when it does happen,

450
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,400
it's big news. I mean,
and and and from time to time,

451
00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:02,319
unfortunately, bad things have happened right
in that area. It was nineteen

452
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,160
ninety three when a girl I went
to college with went to the ATM and

453
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:15,000
got a car jacked right right pretty
much at that same location. So it's

454
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:18,880
right. And this is what's tough
for my spot has been talking with people.

455
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,400
You know, you hear from people
all the time, well that stuff

456
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,279
doesn't happen here. Well, yes
it does. It's just you don't hear

457
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:27,880
about it as much. You know, burglary still happen, Karl larseny still

458
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,599
happen. You know, especially on
the West Side, you get a lot

459
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,640
of people that they're like, well, I live way out here, we

460
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,359
don't lock our doors, and please
lock your doors. Crime of opportunity.

461
00:31:37,359 --> 00:31:41,119
Eventually someone is going to come and
try to go through your house or through

462
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:44,480
your car, so lock everything,
you know. So it does crime,

463
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,759
crime, doesn't you know, discriminate. It happens everywhere. Yeah, it

464
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:53,599
does. And I would think that
this sounds targeted, does it not?

465
00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:59,279
Yeah, I mean it definitely does. Like I said, it's hard for

466
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:02,519
us because I I don't know what
happened and we're not one hundred percent sure,

467
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:06,759
So I don't want to commit to
anything but from a common sense point

468
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,200
of view. Looking at it,
You're like, right, it's it's at

469
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,359
one car. It wasn't random.
No, you know, violence anywhere else

470
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,039
that appears to be targeted at this
one vehicle. Now the question becomes was

471
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:23,160
this a mistaken identity? Was that
they ran it one person? There's a

472
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,680
lot of factors that can still play
into that, and we need to figure

473
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,359
out. That's why you are the
law man just a schmuck on the podcast.

474
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,559
Well, but you know what,
it's funny. You have these theories

475
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:40,720
and you are, you know,
contemplating what happened, and it's a lot

476
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:44,079
of what we do. You know, we let the facts lead us to

477
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,079
where those theories go. But everybody
is human, and you sit and you

478
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:50,359
go, I bet this is what
happened. And then you start looking into

479
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:52,759
it and you're like, no,
I was wrong or I was kind of

480
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:55,000
right, and you know, so
everybody has their little theories. But I

481
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:59,359
was hoping it was a lady that
lunches, that just got the gun because

482
00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:00,519
she thought it was cute and would
keep her safe, but never went to

483
00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,680
the range, never got a lesson, never did anything, and then she

484
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,519
dropped it and shot out a Wagoneer's
higher. I just kind of when I

485
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,680
was not the case, but I
don't know. After that, I was

486
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,759
pulling for the yoga instructor just because
you know, yes, any kind of

487
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:22,559
bad gun publicity is never good,
so kind of yoga? Yeah, how's

488
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:27,359
that? What other the what other
things are happening in the wide world of

489
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,519
the sheriffs. I was down there
today. I did what you're doing at

490
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:34,799
the courthouse. Oh yeah, yeah, I was down in your neck of

491
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:38,799
the woods, right out by the
courthouse, asking people. I can I

492
00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:43,480
can, Well, I'll play one
for you, and you tell me what

493
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:45,880
this person was. What you know? Mind just like no, no,

494
00:33:46,119 --> 00:33:50,400
please, I just I'm I'm waiting
for it. It must be a good

495
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,000
one. No, it's not just
I just asked a series of questions.

496
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,559
I'm hoping you can hear it over
the phone. And I asked a serious

497
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,000
of questions. And then you have
to say why this person is at the

498
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,200
courthouse, and I'll give you some
multiple choice Okay, okay, right here

499
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,400
we go. Let's see what we
got. What was hanging on? Uh?

500
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:15,840
One second, Oh, I don't
want to do that. All Right,

501
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,199
here we go. I didn't have
an update what's your first name?

502
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,519
Elizabeth? Ty? Elizabeth? I'm
Bill. Who is the vice president of

503
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:29,159
the United States? Is it Camilla? Something like that? Commilly? Who

504
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:34,760
did Taylor Swift write a disc track
about on her latest album? Was not

505
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:47,400
Kim? You're right? How many
stripes are on the American flag? Eight?

506
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Who are the current American idol judges? What's heavier? Pounder of bricks

507
00:34:53,559 --> 00:35:00,760
or pound of feathers? Alight?
She believes a pounder feather there's heavier than

508
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,360
a pound of bricks. Could you
hear that? Yeah? No, that

509
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,000
one I heard. Did you ask
who the president was? Is that the

510
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,639
first one? I asked her?
Who the vice president was? Parker Boys?

511
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,559
Okay, she got that, she
did. She didn't know the Taylor

512
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:15,840
strip but she she did say Beyonce. Not a bad guess, Not a

513
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,760
bad guess. Yeah, culture all
right, yeah, So what do you

514
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:27,280
think Elizabeth was doing at the courthouse? Deputy Hurley? Do you know Elizabeth's

515
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,320
last name? Because I can tell
you real quick. No, I know,

516
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:32,760
all right? Wait, wait,
I said I'd give you multiple choice.

517
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:37,159
Was she there? Was she there
to answer a summons? Was she

518
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:43,960
there in support of someone? Or
was she there to visit someone in jail,

519
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,440
which wouldn't be at the courthouse.
So that's good. That's kind of

520
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,440
a trick question. That's a trick
question. Give multiple choice. Let's see,

521
00:35:52,440 --> 00:36:00,320
so she was willing to talk to
you, she's very friendly. Let's

522
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,519
say she's there to answer something,
answer something, Stanny, I'm gonna go

523
00:36:02,559 --> 00:36:08,320
with b B. Support. Yeah, support person. What are you doing

524
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:20,480
at the courthouseles, she's here to
support her. She's there to support her.

525
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:22,280
Man. All right, and there
you go, Deputy Hurley. Thank

526
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:30,639
you for always playing with us.
You're a great sport. This is I

527
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:32,760
hope you Originally when when you said
you were talking about Pittsford, I wanted

528
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,119
to make a joke and say,
that's why it's not where life's worth living.

529
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:39,360
Right, Yes, that is web
that's Webster, life's worth living.

530
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,119
Has it happened in Webster? That's
true? No, no, no,

531
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:49,840
not at all, even as white
House. Now all right, well,

532
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,639
thank you, Deputy Hurley, and
I'm glad you're back on vacation. Will

533
00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:59,559
be bothering you more often clips All
right, thanks, all right, there

534
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,519
you go to be early. D
anyone do another one? Yeah? Absolutely?

535
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:05,599
I love these. See by the
way, she did not get the

536
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:10,760
vice president right. She said Camilla, not Kamala Harris. By the way,

537
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,480
it's not like it's Oprah. It's
not a one named person. They

538
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:16,719
have a full name. All right, Well, here we go. What's

539
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,840
your first thing, Bobby, Bobby, it's Bobby next? Who starred as

540
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:31,920
Dalton in the original I can get
the uggs, but not her legs.

541
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:36,280
She didn't want to be identified.
No one would talk on camera, so

542
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,039
I had to put the camera downright, I'm sorry, I'll put it back

543
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:43,480
here, I'll put it over it. Who started as Dalton in the original

544
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:52,800
Roadhouse movie Roadhouse? They just redid
it on uh Prime? Okay? How

545
00:37:52,840 --> 00:38:00,840
many stars around the American Flat?
How many stars? Third? Teen stars?

546
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:12,599
Thin or thick? Crust pizza?
What does Kanye's new wife's name Jaka?

547
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:19,079
What is the capital of New York
State? Albany? Yes? And

548
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,400
what are you doing at the courthouse? Okay? So Bobby knew everything she

549
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,320
did. Yeah, for the most
part. For the most part, she

550
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,760
didn't get the She got the Roadhouse
questions. The stars are fifty, the

551
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,320
stripes are thirteen. Yeah, so
she didn't get that right. But so

552
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,280
what do you think what is she
doing at the courthouse. I think she

553
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:43,039
is there. Uh two, I
think she's she's answering a ticket. She's

554
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,639
answering a ticket. Yes, all
right, answering a ticket. Here we

555
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:52,440
go. Let's see if Danny's right. I'm supporting. I'm supporting, supporting,

556
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:54,639
she's supporting. Yeah, yeah,
guys, why don't you sit down.

557
00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:57,679
We'll do one more round of this. Sit down and you can put

558
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,840
the headphones on. The guys.
I's from Empire Dragger here. I'm so

559
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:07,360
excited because they got the street out
laws, no prep coming. So all

560
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,920
right, I haven't uh you know, you're gonna have to get right into

561
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,480
the micro right in there. Yeah
you go. Hang on, here we

562
00:39:16,519 --> 00:39:22,719
go, now talk talk, Am
I talking? Steve's just here to look

563
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,480
well, Steve, Steve does look
good, look pretty. I've heard things

564
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:30,639
to you. Oh look at this
works for Castle, the whole thing.

565
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,760
All right, here we go.
Last one, what you're doing at the

566
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:42,320
courthouse. Give me just your first
name? Patrick, Patrick. It's not

567
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,079
you, Patrick, It's not not
Patrick from Empire all right? Who is

568
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:52,400
the Vice President of the United States? Tom Lairicks, Who did Taylor Swift

569
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:58,639
write a disc track about on her
latest album no clue how many stripes are

570
00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:07,880
in the American flag? Twenty one? Who are the current American idol judges?

571
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:15,440
Judges? Now I feel bad because
he'll drop comedian here, and I

572
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:19,119
think he was thinking America's got talent
with how he mentioned the median there was

573
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:24,519
Yeah, when I throw, when
I throw out, he gets one,

574
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,519
Luke Bryant, oh Na, Lino, Richie, you got it right,

575
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:36,000
okay? And what's heavier? Pound
of bricks or pound of feathers? And

576
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,719
what are you doing at the courthouse? So he got pretty much all of

577
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,480
them right, Patrick was at the
courthouse. He's got them pretty much all

578
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:47,559
right, except for twenty one stripes
or twenty one strips, Yes, that's

579
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,559
what he said. All right,
I need to know who the disk track

580
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:52,719
was. So we'll start with you, Steve. What do you think this

581
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,039
guy was doing at the courthouse?
What are the options? The options are

582
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:02,679
he's there to support someone, okay, he's there for a DWY, or

583
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:08,679
he's there for an appearance ticket for
a sault. Oh support somebody? That

584
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,719
doesn't sound support somebody? Okay,
Patrick, what do you say? The

585
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,719
cell can be anything? So I'm
thinking it was an assault charge, an

586
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:21,880
assault charge, Danny, I'm gonna
say child support, child support. I

587
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:30,360
forgot that, I forgot. And
here we go supporting somebody baby mama.

588
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,960
There you go. So boring.
I know it is so boring. I

589
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,440
remember one time what I did this
like ten years ago. This I got

590
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,320
like a ten minute story out of
a guy. All right, so check

591
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,199
this out. So here's what happened, right, So my neighbor and I

592
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,159
had a little dispute over something that
happened and I found out that he was

593
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:52,119
poking my mama, and I mean
it went on, and so I just

594
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:58,239
ran out of tape. We will
take a moment, and when we come

595
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,239
back, we're gonna talk to Patrick
Rick and we'll talk to Steve about the

596
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,480
Street out Laws. No prep kings
that are coming. This is a big

597
00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,960
deal. They're on Discovery. This
is is this their seventh season, guys

598
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,880
season seventh season? Yeah, so
it's their seventh season. You can be

599
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:20,000
down there to see this basically a
TV production unfold in real time, right,

600
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,239
And so we'll find out all about
that happened at Empire Drag. We

601
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,320
will do that next comedy. If
the Carlson has a comedian, I'm very

602
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,639
excited to see this weekend Michael Yo
for two shows Friday Night seven to nine

603
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:35,280
and two shows Saturday Night seven and
nine. You know Michael Yo from entertainment

604
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,800
shows. He also does an A
and E show called A Thousand Ways to

605
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,360
Dine. I like that little play
on words. It's been a lot of

606
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,039
podcasts and he's extremely funny. He
has a special that's on YouTube right now.

607
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:50,239
You can check out. Just search
Michael Yo and catch him why you

608
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,639
can at Carlson Comedy this Friday and
Saturday Night, both shows at seven and

609
00:42:53,760 --> 00:43:07,480
nine. Lock your tickets down,
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626
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train to lin It's next three no
prepp in on this track you no matter

627
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628
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629
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630
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to get you fired up. It is

631
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enough to get you fired up cars, It's enough to get fired out.

632
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,119
How could you hate cars, can't
Patrick, Patrick does like a little bit

633
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:51,480
of everything. Do you do a
little bit of everything? At the track?

634
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:55,840
I always see you, like making
sure that this that's prep right,

635
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,440
making sure the sticky stuff's down.
I do no prep. Guys want right,

636
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,159
you do that? But then everything
it's I'm the only full time employee.

637
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,960
Yes, So if there's something that
Jerry's need, I do it.

638
00:45:09,079 --> 00:45:14,679
If I screw it up, and
then they just you know, put up

639
00:45:14,679 --> 00:45:19,639
with me, it's a pretty good
relationship. It's very good. Equipment anything

640
00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:22,920
motorized tractors, yeah, very good. Yeah. But does he wait?

641
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:29,039
Patrick? I was just gonna say, but do you have a car you

642
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:34,880
raced there? I used to Okay, I got it. Uh you know,

643
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,239
it's funny you say that I didn't. I shouldn't have hit below the

644
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:44,920
bell, just making a joke.
It took it took selling the car to

645
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,320
pay off the debt that I put
a business into the reef. You know

646
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,039
what I mean. That happens.
Yeah, I got too invested in racing

647
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:55,360
and it took a toll. And
uh so I ended up selling the car

648
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,320
to a guy in Greece and Athens. So we shipped the car there.

649
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,840
Really, what kind of car was
this? It was a two chassis.

650
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,000
It was like a like a junior
pro Mood at the time it was promodified.

651
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:10,840
It was like a pro modified chassis
with a slightly smaller engine. Holy

652
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,000
crap, is that go on over
in Athens? Greate? No, I

653
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:17,920
understand it's all over the world.
But are they doing it at the coliseum?

654
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,000
Do you know what I'm saying?
Can you race around the coliseum?

655
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:23,840
How great would that be? It'd
be awesome, It'd be awesome. What's

656
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:29,840
interesting? Yeah, well you just
have a drag racing car. Yeah,

657
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,880
we just needed straight away. Yeah, right right down. I think that'd

658
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:37,079
be you just tear right through the
colise. So he snapperrolled the thing at

659
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,559
one hundred and ninety in Santa Pod
in England. Yeah, how did you

660
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:44,639
find out? I saw him at
a trade show not too much later,

661
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:46,280
and he said to me, if
I give you some if I tell you

662
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,719
where I broke the car, can
you cut me some new pieces put it

663
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,199
together so I can basically staple it
back onto this one? Really? You

664
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:57,800
know in a prejube fabrication I don't, but I owned a fabrication shop with

665
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,760
a partner Okay, so it's kind
of like Empire Dragway. I've got an

666
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,760
eye for things and an understanding for
things, but my hands don't necessarily communicate

667
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,039
with my brain. So well,
I got you. So I work well

668
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:13,159
with others. Yeah, you're like
Steve Jobs. Yeah. No, I

669
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:15,400
mean in terms of like, well, seriously, a lot is smart.

670
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,480
But no, but the idea is
right. He was all about I don't

671
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:21,679
think he built an iPod no,
but he had the vision anything, but

672
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,000
he had the vision I want a
bunch of songs in a little box.

673
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:25,960
Yeah, go, you're fired.
No, but I mean, but my

674
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:29,880
point is like you can see what
it is and how it'll work and how

675
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,840
it goes together. But you just
yeah, that's awesome. It was a

676
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,599
good time. It was a good
time. I had five full time employees,

677
00:47:35,639 --> 00:47:37,320
and for a while it was a
role or a good role. We

678
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,679
had a few World Championship cars that
came out of there. Wow. We

679
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:45,079
built a three second pro mode way
back in two thousand and four, So

680
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,920
okay, I mean it was pretty
quick for the day. What was the

681
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:55,079
speed again? That went three trying
to think three nineties at one hundred and

682
00:47:55,199 --> 00:48:00,519
ninety. But they'd be one under
eighty hundred ninety miles an hour, No

683
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:04,599
four. Yeah, so we we
had a lot of fun we did.

684
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,239
Did you go overseas and alder to
do any of this? Just Canada?

685
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:13,079
Just Canada? Okay, well that
was my international international. I'll take it.

686
00:48:13,159 --> 00:48:15,639
Put it on the resume. I'm
putting on the resume. And then

687
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:21,480
Steve Mills I've known since the radio
days and he works at Castle but his

688
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:28,840
son is a nut and but builds
really great cars. Good enough getting that

689
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,199
microphone? Will you, Steve?
I know you can't see me with the

690
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,480
Canada, but what do I know? What do I know? You know,

691
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:38,400
Pat has been a big influence to
Josh and putting them on the path

692
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,639
to craftsmanship and things like that.
That's just nice work. I mean,

693
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:45,840
it's a it's an impressive little thing
he's got going on there. And again

694
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,880
I'll test a bit to him and
some of the things that he learned,

695
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,400
and that when Josh crashed his car
a year ago, yeah, one hundred

696
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:58,719
and eighty eight miles an hour into
a wall, whoa other than other than

697
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,840
a my own concussion. Everything did
what it was supposed to do right,

698
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,320
and a lot of that what do
you have in there, like a harness

699
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,239
and the roll cage. Yeah.
It was a car certified to six flat,

700
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,960
so I had a full funny car
cage and all the other different stuff.

701
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,119
When you say different stuff, they
don't usually have air bags in there.

702
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,760
Oh no, I mean so just
to let people know, right,

703
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,119
if you're not familiar that there's no
air this is right. But usually you've

704
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:27,960
got the head restraints sometimes depending on
the speed, I know with nask you

705
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,800
know all like race cars and stuff. Helmet yep, yeah five. So

706
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,400
he had to hit that pretty hard
to get it. He got all of

707
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,480
it. Yeah. Yeah, I
wasn't there, but he got all of

708
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,519
it. He Yeah, it destroyed
the car, but the cage area stake.

709
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,199
Were you standing there, Steve?
Oh no, I got a phone

710
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,400
call. I don't travel with him. I had to stay in town.

711
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,920
Oh ok, yeah gotcha. Oh
this was out of town. Yeah,

712
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,920
it was in Ohio. And I
got a phone call from a buddy of

713
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,719
mine and it was like seven thirty
eight o'clock and you call him, I

714
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,280
go, I answered the phone.
I go, if you're calling me,

715
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,440
and I knew he was, I
go, if you're calling me at this

716
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:04,920
time, something ain't good. Yeah, he goes, yeah, no,

717
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:08,480
and he goes Josh had a little
incident. I go, how bad?

718
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:14,159
He goes, Well, he's okay, okay, go and the car junk.

719
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,440
Just to I don't want to pry
too much, but how much money

720
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,760
is in a car like that for
people who aren't familiar with that dragon If

721
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,840
he was to sell that car at
that point, probably pissed away seventy thousand

722
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,400
dollars. Oh, you got to
keep in mind that because Josh does so

723
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,880
much of this stuff himself, it's
it's hard to put it's hard to quantify.

724
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:38,079
Yeah, the money is what might
be a quarter million dollar car retail,

725
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,239
right, he could throw it together
because it's his free labor. Yeah,

726
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,159
you know, for a different price. Yeah, but even at seventy

727
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:47,920
I mean that's still like how many
people are driving around with a seventy thousand

728
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,039
dollar car, I mean on the
streets. Yeah. And then the car

729
00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:54,159
that he replaced it with, that
he built last year, again with some

730
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:59,320
of his guidance, we probably could
sell the right person for what do you

731
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,400
think one hundred and twenty five?
I have no idea what what what that

732
00:51:01,519 --> 00:51:05,239
car would be worth, to be
honest, with you. It's it's state

733
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,039
of the art ship. It's a
good piece. Wow, what are you

734
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:10,280
gonna say, Danny? By the
way, like, if you're call somebody,

735
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,119
let him know that there's an accident, that the person's alive. Lead

736
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:19,480
with the person's alive. Well,
you've got to understand when you live this

737
00:51:19,639 --> 00:51:22,840
life and you've been doing it,
I've been with this stuff for years.

738
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:30,719
Okay, it's never, it's never
if it's yeah, and especially again,

739
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,719
the vein of what my son does
is this outlaw style stuff. So you're

740
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,960
taking you know, are you familiar
with drag racing at all? Yes?

741
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:42,440
Right, slicks this bag? You
know, Well, what he does is

742
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,000
trying to put about twenty five hundred
horsepower to the ground and I tire that

743
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:51,440
why yeah, yeah. And when
you're talking slicks, you're usually it goes

744
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,400
bad, no tread like you know, just for but you just know that

745
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,840
it's going to happen. Well.
And the weird part is when you're at

746
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:04,320
it drag race and I hadn't watched
a whole lot of drag racing, and

747
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,079
I'd rather be behind the wheel than
actually watching it. To tell goddamn,

748
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:10,800
was that fun? But to see
everybody. When somebody loses it and goes

749
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,079
either into a wall or into the
they start sprinting as soon like these guys.

750
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:19,920
It's almost like, you know how
like animals sense an earthquake, Yeah,

751
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,199
before anybody else. Right, So
you're standing there watching it, and

752
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,519
all of a sudden you'll see three
guys start springing. What the fuck?

753
00:52:24,599 --> 00:52:29,880
Oh my god, I don't know
what they saw, but something like is

754
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,480
am I right? Patrick? You
do? I mean these cars move around

755
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:35,519
a little bit. You watch them
go down the track. They don't go

756
00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:37,920
straight, No, they don't,
and you gotta like hold on. I

757
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,360
mean, you gotta have some strength. It's not power steering, Oh no,

758
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,840
No, just a little Ford racing
from back in the day, that's

759
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:52,039
all it is. Richard Petty used
to rip on who is it? The

760
00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:54,239
Rainbow Warrior there they called it.
But Jeff Gordon, Jeff Gordon, he

761
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,480
said, back in my day,
there's no way he could have driven that

762
00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:01,239
car because we didn't have power staring. Now, yeah, I know they

763
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,079
don't. I mean, here you're
just going basically straight, but you need

764
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:07,840
to hold it and do it that
all right? So the purpose you're here

765
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,719
and I don't want to know this
is fun. We're good. I love

766
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,480
talking about all this stuff with you
guys. But this I think this is

767
00:53:14,519 --> 00:53:20,440
a huge, huge deal that's coming
to Empire Dragway. It is this street

768
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,320
out laws, no prep kings.
I think this year the stakes are higher,

769
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,800
there's more money on the line.
I was looking at the top ten.

770
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,199
I was telling Danny beforety guys came
in that there are two women in

771
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,719
the top ten on the leader board
right now, and I said, I

772
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,039
hope I don't sound misogynistic, but
I find that impressive. Drag Racings had

773
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:44,760
a way more female participation than any
sport out there. It's really one of

774
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,159
those things you walk in the pits
and you know, I don't want to

775
00:53:47,159 --> 00:53:51,480
get cliche, but it's a pretty
accepting environment. Yes, it's unique.

776
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:54,760
It's different than a lot of I
remember calling Steve not long ago and I

777
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:59,079
hear Steve and he goes, yeah, I got this young lady who's going

778
00:53:59,159 --> 00:54:01,239
to drive the truck this year at
the and she's out working on it.

779
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,320
I hear yelling something back to Steve. I go, that is so freaking

780
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,679
cool. She's an r N and
she's as cute as connec. Yeah,

781
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:10,360
I mean it's the stereotypes just go
out the window. You know, yes

782
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,039
they do. And uh, but
you've got to have no fear when you're

783
00:54:15,039 --> 00:54:17,280
doing all. And again, my
son's girlfriend, Melissa, she's got a

784
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,800
very fast race car, and you
do it. And you know, one

785
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,920
thing about drag race, and it's
kind of funny if just my stupid way

786
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:31,159
of looking at things and all the
problems that we have racially and religiously and

787
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:35,360
all that stuff in the world.
Anybody ever came to a drag race and

788
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,079
sees how people get along in a
drag race? Yeah, they go,

789
00:54:38,159 --> 00:54:40,320
how the hell is this possible?
Well, it is weird because it's a

790
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,360
competition. It's a competition, but
it's people who are like, if you

791
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,679
needed something, everybody, Yeah,
if somebody had a I don't know what,

792
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,000
you know, you blow up rod
or something and somebody's got something the

793
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:55,039
trailer out, Yeah, I mean, and don't try to rip your heart

794
00:54:55,039 --> 00:55:00,280
out five seconds going out. But
it's just it's like I'm melting pot.

795
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,079
Like you can't even imagine the mutual
respect that like, if something goes wrong,

796
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:07,280
we're all in the same data.
Yeah, and and pretty much everybody

797
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,880
is, well, there's a lot
of time and money and now you love

798
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,880
it right because you know you're doing
this where somebody else may own a lake

799
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,639
house or go on vacation somewhere or
everybody. Everybody in those pits is spent

800
00:55:21,679 --> 00:55:23,679
to the absolute limit of their income. Yeah, it doesn't matter if they've

801
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,679
got a slow car or if they've
got the fastest car in the property.

802
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,199
They've all they've all taken food off
the table to go racing. Wow.

803
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:35,880
So I think that that has something
to do with the commonality. You know,

804
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,960
how people get along and they respect
each other. There there's not a

805
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,199
lot. You'd think there'd be a
hold more lot more attitude from the fast

806
00:55:43,199 --> 00:55:45,199
guys to the slow guys, and
there's not. They just hang out together

807
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,920
by the starting line. When they
lose, they stand in that area by

808
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,039
the yeah I'm talking about, and
they pop their beers and they hang out

809
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,960
and it's it's it's a lot of
fun. It's like a bowling league with

810
00:55:55,039 --> 00:56:00,920
horsepower. That's a great analogy.
Actually, Empire does such a nice job

811
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:06,199
and it's tucked away in Leicster.
Yes, right, So you just go

812
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,039
right down to Geneseo basically and make
a right and you're you're practically there.

813
00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:13,280
It took you a few times to
find it though, if I remember,

814
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,599
No, I got it. He
just didn't want to come. Here's just

815
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:19,800
you know what. You're right,
Yeah, it took me a while.

816
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,280
I didn't come down for a long
time, but I uh, once it

817
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,599
was, Once you're there, it
was it got It's like, what why

818
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,599
why did I take so long to
enjoy this? Let me ask you a

819
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,639
question. Yes, sir, we've
seen Talledega knights, right, we're all

820
00:56:34,639 --> 00:56:37,400
some ricky Bobby in the middle of
the race gets thrown into the car deep

821
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,119
down. Do you wish that's you? Sometimes if you're watching a drag race,

822
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:44,840
pick me you don't but do it, but don't. But I had

823
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,800
never I had never done drag racing. I've done some road courses that kind

824
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,480
of thing. Uh, But if
they I think, I mean you can.

825
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,880
Sponsors are gonna crap a chicken if
we don't have somebody in this car.

826
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,199
And then you're like, I'll do
it. Well, did I say

827
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,880
that. I didn't mean that I'll
do it, but I mean I think,

828
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:06,039
like I remember my buddy and I
would try to open up his ninety

829
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:10,679
eight olds on the flash planes of
like one ten, one twenty on a

830
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,880
Thursday morning, us we're going to
school, and it took me a mile

831
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,599
to get going that fastt you know. And it was a really smart too,

832
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:22,159
because I don't know if somebody could
have been sending their kid out to

833
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:23,760
get on the school bus. You
know. But you're seventeen and you're not

834
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:29,880
thinking this is cool because it's controlled
environment. It's where you're supposed to do

835
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,760
that. It's cars built for that. It's guys who have more knowledge than

836
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:37,400
maybe you if you're just entering it
and are there. Basically, I would

837
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,760
say almost it's a nurturing environment to
go and do it. And when I

838
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:45,039
went down there, I had a
freaking blast. And the best was driving

839
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:50,280
your truck because I got in that
hell Cat and the hell Cat is a

840
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,800
piece. It's a piece of machinery, but it's got the automatic traction and

841
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,679
stuff. You can't turn that shit
off. And if you're going to drag

842
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,480
race, man, you just want
to drop the hammer and go. You

843
00:57:59,519 --> 00:58:02,239
don't want to be waiting on automatic
traction or whatever. You just wanted to

844
00:58:02,239 --> 00:58:06,599
And I got to tell you,
like every time, and here's what I

845
00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:09,880
think I have come to believe that. You know, there are people who

846
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,239
tell you meditation is a great thing. I will be one of those.

847
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,880
I think it's very good to give
your mind a rest. But if you're

848
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,199
unable to do that, you gotta
find a sport like this. Yeah,

849
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,320
because when you're going one hundred and
eighty one hundred and twenty one hundred and

850
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:28,400
ten ninety eight, I don't give
a shit. You're not thinking about anything

851
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,119
else but right there. And I
swear I defy you if you've never done

852
00:58:32,119 --> 00:58:37,360
it, to then slow down as
you're you know you'll hit a certain point

853
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,639
and you take your foot off the
gas to not laugh, to almost just

854
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:45,239
lose like the adrenal. My I
was buzzing for like like the next six

855
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,920
hours. After that, I had
easily Yeah. Just taking the tree in

856
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,239
a Hunday, it was one of
my good time, the greatest days.

857
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,119
It was so much fun and I
had never done that before, and I

858
00:58:55,119 --> 00:58:58,119
can't wait to do it again.
Let me throw something out there. On

859
00:58:58,159 --> 00:59:00,880
Friday nights, we have a test
and tune program him Yes, and we

860
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,760
encourage people to bring whatever they're driving, bring it to the racetracks, stick

861
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,320
it on the starting line, take
the tree, have the lights come down,

862
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:12,320
experience that and uh, you know, make a bunch of passes and

863
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,159
it is any as you can make
because it's so cool too, is do

864
00:59:15,199 --> 00:59:17,239
you guys put on the computer for
that? Yes, where people can see

865
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:21,920
what the reaction times are and you
think your reaction time is great and you'll

866
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,280
see they like two seconds is a
I mean, that's a lifetime right in

867
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:30,400
this sport, because you lose,
Yeah, you lose down. Yeah,

868
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:35,239
like you're you you're waiting to go
boom and you think you got right on

869
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,960
it. You didn't. Somebody's already
a quarter mile away. So that's a

870
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:44,719
great thing. I forgot Empire every
Friday, every Friday, Friday, six

871
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,039
to ten, starting six to ten, starting on the tenth on the tenth

872
00:59:49,039 --> 00:59:53,480
of May of May. We were
anyway Empire Dragway dot Com. I'm sorry,

873
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,719
all right, Okay, I don't
mean but that's all right, people,

874
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,599
I know where the tractor is.
Well, Pat said, so what

875
01:00:01,719 --> 01:00:06,079
is no prep mean? Exactly?
All right? What's Let me just tell

876
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:09,400
you what I do for a living
and then we'll just Okay. I work

877
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:14,440
with some equipment to take the rubber
off the track every week because it gets

878
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,159
stale and beat up, and then
we lay down new rubber every week and

879
01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:22,239
we mix in different compounds and things
like that to make it sticky and so

880
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,440
it it stays tight to the surface
so when the tire turns on it,

881
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:30,800
it doesn't squirm. No prep is
the opposite of that. What they want

882
01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:35,519
street just like a street. They
want a track that was raced on the

883
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:38,280
week before. Let's say, okay, so there is some of that's something,

884
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:44,159
some residual okay, but nothing new, nothing you know, special,

885
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:49,679
just a week old, dry racetrack
and that's what they use. And the

886
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,079
neat thing about this kind of racing
I was, you know, being a

887
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:55,440
prep guy. Obviously, it's something
that I'm not as familiar with as I

888
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,400
would be if I was a no
Prep racer. But this is like the

889
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,519
most legitim in star power we're going
to bring to this property. Yeah,

890
01:01:02,519 --> 01:01:08,559
these are some big stars are Discovery. Yeah. It's funny when they came

891
01:01:08,599 --> 01:01:14,280
down and we met with the television
people for the first time and we ask,

892
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,239
you know, what there's going to
be, like forty of them are

893
01:01:15,239 --> 01:01:20,760
supposed to come, and they don't
refer to them as racers, even though

894
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,320
that's what they are. It's the
cast. Yeah, well they are the

895
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,880
cast. Yeah yeah, it's all
the cast of the show. It's interesting.

896
01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:30,559
There's never been anything like it in
this sports history. And we owe

897
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:35,320
just the industry, Owes and offul
Lot to this kind of racing and the

898
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,519
people that produce it because there's parts
getting sold, there's kids that are going

899
01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:42,760
to the track for the first time
to emulate these guys. Yeah, and

900
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,920
I mean it's just the revenue that
they're generating industry wide is really impressive.

901
01:01:47,559 --> 01:01:53,400
It's actually quite brilliant. What they
did is how they they took the illegal

902
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:58,519
aspect of things. Yeah, the
street racers were out there, they realized

903
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:01,679
they had a following. But when
they're filming these television shows, they're out

904
01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:06,960
in the middle of nowhere knows where, filming on actual roads. Yeah,

905
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,920
and said, hmm, how do
we we can't bring people here? No,

906
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,880
no, So they came up with
this snow prepped kings go do these

907
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,440
races at a sanctioned drag strip.
Just don't do anything and they are just

908
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:22,480
ringing them. Well, it's a
better way. I mean, like going

909
01:02:22,519 --> 01:02:24,840
back to what I was saying,
where we would do one hundred and ten,

910
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,360
one hundred and twenty and my buddy's
old. You never know what's going

911
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,920
to pop out around the corner,
right. So a lot of these illegal

912
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:37,280
street races happen late at night when
there's little traffic. But god forbid,

913
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,039
you're having your racing your wife to
have a baby, right, and you

914
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:44,719
meet up with headlights coming at you
at one hundred and ten miles better raccoon,

915
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:47,000
yeah yeah, anything, yeah,
right, Well that could send you

916
01:02:47,039 --> 01:02:52,480
off into a tree and who knows, or someone's front living room and any

917
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:54,519
number of things. So this is
a is a great way to do it.

918
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:58,679
And it's gonna be the first weekend
in May, right, So is

919
01:02:58,679 --> 01:03:00,519
that May? Third? Fourth?
Or third and fourth? The thirth with

920
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,559
just who people know? The fifth
would be the rain date, okay,

921
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,880
Sunday. Yeah, so you can
go and you can get your tickets.

922
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:13,119
Now I know there's different levels of
things. Okay, Well you can get

923
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:17,480
like GA tickets, right, and
that's like thirty bucks of tickets. But

924
01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:21,039
I need to print stuff out to
have all this right look at you,

925
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:22,760
it's right up there in the heads. That's just what I do, kind

926
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,559
of what you do. Yeah,
it's kind of what I do. So

927
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:30,880
but what I love all this,
what I love is exactly came magic.

928
01:03:31,239 --> 01:03:38,280
I I love the rock Star VIP. Yeah, the rock Star this is

929
01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:44,960
something. I like this and the
rock Star VIP, but it's a little

930
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,760
more, a little pricier. But
man, you're going to be there all

931
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:52,440
day. You're going to have your
own private bathrooms access to That's the key,

932
01:03:52,599 --> 01:03:54,400
Yes, it is. It is
the key, you know. I

933
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,679
mean like I always told my sons
when they were little, that the world

934
01:03:58,719 --> 01:04:01,079
is your yurinal, don't worry about
it, just going to But that's not

935
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:05,480
proper when you're older. So,
but this is great. I think what

936
01:04:05,639 --> 01:04:10,719
is the price on that? I
think one hundred and eighty nine Saturday.

937
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,320
I think it was more Saturday and
less than Friday sixty five. Yeah,

938
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,800
but that's a great deal. And
then kids, if you want to get

939
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,639
them to VIP, that was like
nothing, nothing, It's like five dollars

940
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:25,199
or something. No for kids because
they do provote a family environment, you

941
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,800
know what I mean? Yes,
and and you know these guys make it's

942
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,480
five bucks for a children's VIP.
I was like five dollars for a kid's

943
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:36,480
VIP, but you get the other
and kids love this and it's fun and

944
01:04:36,519 --> 01:04:40,840
the racers are accessible. Right.
Well, that's that was the next point

945
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,719
I was going to bring up.
They Well, you were there where we

946
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,960
were pitted that day for the day
you came out to the fact. Well

947
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:54,000
that's where all the casts of the
show parks. They all have merchandise trailers.

948
01:04:54,039 --> 01:04:57,559
Sure, so those guys make a
lot of their money on ass T

949
01:04:57,679 --> 01:05:00,880
shirts, all right, merch that
they got. Yeah, it's very dependent

950
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,559
on that. Because of the race
itself on Saturday, it pays the guy

951
01:05:03,559 --> 01:05:08,079
that wins it thirty thousand dollars.
Okay, wow, that's a good buck.

952
01:05:08,159 --> 01:05:15,519
The guy that comes in second place
nothing. So you got to roll

953
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:19,360
into this place, you're rolling into
wherever they go, Empire wherever. Yeah,

954
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,480
with probably half a million to three
quarters of million dollars between your tot

955
01:05:24,599 --> 01:05:28,159
rig and all this stuff. And
you're on a nif come for thirty grand

956
01:05:28,159 --> 01:05:30,320
to get something and nothing. Yeah, you know, and you take a

957
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,800
chance of whting all your crap up
too. So, I mean, because

958
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,119
that's the other thing that it's the
other thing that people buy into this a

959
01:05:36,159 --> 01:05:41,519
lot, is there's accidents. Yeah, yeah, more than on a regular

960
01:05:41,639 --> 01:05:44,559
race day. Sure, I can't
wait to sweep up tail lights. Yeah,

961
01:05:44,679 --> 01:05:47,239
I mean we're going to be running
down the track a lot picking up

962
01:05:47,239 --> 01:05:51,400
pieces, I would imagine. So
what time does the racing start on Friday?

963
01:05:51,719 --> 01:05:55,800
Five o'clock, five o'clock. So
five o'clock Friday, and it goes

964
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:00,440
to probably I mean it's ten.
Yeah. Thing. But at our place,

965
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:05,199
Yeah, we have no curfeus nor
so if there's something goes on,

966
01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:11,480
we're under no. The cops aren't
going to show up and go. You

967
01:06:11,559 --> 01:06:14,440
got to stop. You know,
we could run all night, right and

968
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:19,559
and and these people will because obviously
they're filming something. So they move on

969
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:24,119
the next week somewhere else. And
if shares a Sunday or we go all

970
01:06:24,199 --> 01:06:27,519
night Saturday, they don't care.
Sheriff rolls in, comes up to the

971
01:06:27,519 --> 01:06:30,440
tower. You know why I'm here. I can do about it. Yeah,

972
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:34,119
I can tell you. But you
know why I am here. We'll

973
01:06:34,119 --> 01:06:38,119
built Remember the night you were there
with the top for the Top Fuel show.

974
01:06:38,199 --> 01:06:42,480
Yeah, well the sheriff rolled in
like at midnight, Yeah, because

975
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,639
they were getting complaints in Geneseo.
Yeah. Well, the top fuel cars

976
01:06:45,679 --> 01:06:48,480
are a little loud, a little
a little hot. The jet, the

977
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:54,000
jet engine was something to watch that
would try out your track pretty quick and

978
01:06:54,119 --> 01:06:57,119
well, just just because I'm going
to circle back, because it's a circle

979
01:06:57,199 --> 01:07:00,360
guy that I am, I'd like
you to do that. These VIP tookses

980
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,280
just the ability to see these stars
and get up close to them. So

981
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,239
you're going to have, you know, obviously somebody in the car, and

982
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:11,239
you're going to have other recognizable names
and people that you've seen on television standing,

983
01:07:11,639 --> 01:07:14,239
you know, in between the cars, just behind the starter shack.

984
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,119
So that means for the folks who
have never been there before. When you're

985
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:20,079
in these VIP deals, you're going
to be thirty feet away from Lizzie Musey.

986
01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:26,119
You're going to be thirty feet away
from Pat Mucy. It's it's you

987
01:07:26,119 --> 01:07:29,920
think Lizzie's like top five right now? She is. Cayleb Warnon is like

988
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:31,119
number nine or something. You know
her? Do you know her? Do

989
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:34,079
you know her backstory? I don't
know Lizzie's backstory. I know her father

990
01:07:34,239 --> 01:07:36,920
used to race n h U A
and I t R A pro stock.

991
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,360
His father was in what they call
I'm getting deep in the nerd here,

992
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,960
but his father was part of the
or her father was one of the original

993
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,440
two hundred mile an hour IRA guys
and that crew in the Hollow Club.

994
01:07:49,199 --> 01:07:53,960
So he got into what's called Pro
Street Racing, which was the fastest street

995
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,280
car deal. That kind of was
the precursor to what they're doing with No

996
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,519
Prep. Kind of a similar crowd, similar vibe, but just different and

997
01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:04,159
h he built a lot of motors
for Pro Modified and now he's got his

998
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:10,000
daughter running fast. But Pat's probably
one of the most recognizable faces that'll be

999
01:08:10,039 --> 01:08:13,360
on the property. Okay, So
and these fans for I mean, it's

1000
01:08:13,639 --> 01:08:15,760
the tickets aren't free, but you're
gonna if you like this stuff, you're

1001
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,520
going to be damn near able to
reach out and touch. Well, I

1002
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:24,319
mean, when are you able to
see a TV production right? First sport

1003
01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:27,079
you love? Yeah, well,
you know, you know talking about Lizzie

1004
01:08:27,119 --> 01:08:31,119
Musey bad story to her at this
present moment. Yeah, it's December.

1005
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:36,079
Yeah, she was diagnosed with stage
four breast cancer in November, which they

1006
01:08:36,199 --> 01:08:42,399
did something with whatever. Then it
turned out later on liver I think,

1007
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,239
So this girl's battling through a lot
of stuff right now, but still coming

1008
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:49,840
out there and swinging and driving a
reach. They're tough they're from carter At

1009
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,800
New Jersey. They are tough.
Yeah, but I would also think like

1010
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:57,479
that goes back to my theory of
takes your mind off the therapy. Right.

1011
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:02,680
It's almost because damn right, and
you probably feel alive when you're doing

1012
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,960
it. You're not. You're not
gonna feel more alive than go on an

1013
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,520
hour. Even as a spectator.
You walk in the gate at eight am

1014
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,000
to get a good seat. Yeah, you walk out of there at midnight,

1015
01:09:13,039 --> 01:09:15,720
you feel like you've only been there
for two hours. There's so much

1016
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,920
adrenaline in the air. It's it's
it's a unique environment. It's really really

1017
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,600
cool. And again, the first
weekend in May, I would say,

1018
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,640
lock your tickets down now. Yeah, And because I was out there surfing

1019
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,239
around trying to get my dates and
times right for this, and some of

1020
01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:33,159
this stuff is getting close to being
sold out. Yeah, you're gonna I

1021
01:09:33,159 --> 01:09:35,760
would say if you if you're on
the fence, get off the fence,

1022
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,960
lock your tickets down. You just
go to Empire drag dot com. Correct.

1023
01:09:40,079 --> 01:09:45,159
Hey, no, the FOTE,
the vote the fat that's the ticketing

1024
01:09:45,159 --> 01:09:48,319
agent. Okay, because I was
finding links through Yeah, the FOTE,

1025
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:54,760
that's the official spell it f O
eight f O eight Okay, no idea,

1026
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,239
Why no, that's all right.
It's boat with an f yep and

1027
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:02,640
somebody with a lisp say come on
my vote, folks something like that.

1028
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,479
Just remember that and then and get
the tickets and it is. It's family

1029
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:11,279
fun, family environment, great way
to spend the weekend. First weekend in

1030
01:10:11,359 --> 01:10:15,680
May. Let's kick it off.
There should be some phenomenal people watching.

1031
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:23,640
I think just off the Chaine watching
you get everything. I love your speaking

1032
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,600
my language. Now that's my language. You want to do? What are

1033
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,079
you doing at the courthouse? You
gotta come? What are you doing at

1034
01:10:29,079 --> 01:10:32,680
the Drags? Raft? What?
He hell here? Empire Drags? Get

1035
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,399
out there. This is a lot
of fun. Discovery Channel, Street Outlaws,

1036
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:39,680
no prep kings the first weekendo may
go to fote dot com and get

1037
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:42,680
your tickets. Uh, we're gonna
take them moment. You guys can stick

1038
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,520
around. We're going to talk to
a guy named Tim Graham. He writes

1039
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,760
for the Atlantic. Excuse me to
write for the Buffalo News. He used

1040
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,319
to write for the Buffalo News and
now he writes for the Athletic. I

1041
01:10:51,359 --> 01:10:56,039
said Atlantic, I meant Athletic.
And we're just going to talk a little

1042
01:10:56,119 --> 01:10:59,640
bills and NFL draft and uh that
sort of thing. So we will get

1043
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,520
to that. Jimmy Z's Plates and
Shakes. Did you know that you can

1044
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,880
rent out the restaurant if you're having
like a family reunion, a gathering of

1045
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:09,279
a bunch of friends, maybe a
corporate event. Jimmy Z's Plates and Shakes

1046
01:11:09,359 --> 01:11:12,760
right there on Main Street and Brockport. Maybe you're having a graduation party and

1047
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,880
you want to bring Jimmy Z's to
you. They do catering or the food

1048
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,439
truck. You can bring the food
truck. Oh yeah, How do you

1049
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,359
find out how to do all of
this? The restaurant, the food truck,

1050
01:11:20,399 --> 01:11:24,159
the catering. You go to one
spot, the same spot you always

1051
01:11:24,159 --> 01:11:28,760
win. Plates in Shakes dot com
for Jimmy Z's Plates and Shakes, Victor

1052
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,840
Chrysler, Dodge, geep Ram Route
ninety six and Victor and online at Victor

1053
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,600
cdjr dot com. Mac of All
Trades. I was talking to a friend

1054
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:41,359
of mine and they said, I'm
gonna be building a tool room in my

1055
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:45,760
garage. And they said, I'm
not really sure how to go about it.

1056
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,279
And I said, then you need
to call MAC five a five two

1057
01:11:49,399 --> 01:11:53,560
zero two ninety two eighteen, and
he said, yeah, I've been getting

1058
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,960
different advice. Somebody told me that
I could use any kind of wood on

1059
01:11:58,079 --> 01:12:00,720
the concrete slab and frame out from
there. And I said, again,

1060
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,800
call Mac and no. The answer
is no, you got to use pressure

1061
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,600
treated wood because on a concrete anyway, Mac Mac will handle it. Five

1062
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,079
eight five two zero two ninety two
eighteen. They know the rules, they

1063
01:12:11,079 --> 01:12:13,239
know what's best. They know how
to build things, They know how to

1064
01:12:13,319 --> 01:12:16,520
fix things. If you've got drywall
problems, chip molding, gutters hanging down,

1065
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,680
need a deck, want a patio, whatever it is you envision it,

1066
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,640
MAC can make it happen. How
about that five eight five two zero

1067
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,520
two ninety two eighteen. Want a
full kitchen remodel? They can do that,

1068
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,000
full bath remodel. Yeah, just
need to switch out some toilets.

1069
01:12:30,039 --> 01:12:33,359
Maybe you want one that's a little
higher. Now you know, that's a

1070
01:12:33,359 --> 01:12:36,359
great gift for Mother's Day if your
mom's a little older. Get a higher

1071
01:12:36,399 --> 01:12:41,640
toilet put in by Mac five eight
five two zero two ninety two eighteen and

1072
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:54,479
online at Macaball Trades dot full pre
the news rough lately up been doing bed

1073
01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:01,800
then the last fall cold decembers are
we coole aren't there? And I see

1074
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:09,680
my family every month. How about
a girl my parents love? She'll come

1075
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:15,840
and stay tonight. And I think
I might have it all And I think

1076
01:13:16,039 --> 01:13:21,560
God every for the girl here.
Say a way? How about that,

1077
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:29,920
Danny? But don't know the things
you can take away. This kid's name

1078
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:34,560
is Benson Boone. Bensing Boone,
I believe was an American idol kid many

1079
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:41,800
years ago. This is I think
number three on the top forty charts right

1080
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,920
now, the word charts. But
this it gets rocking. I like this.

1081
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:45,319
This is where it kicks up a
little bit. Here we go.

1082
01:13:46,119 --> 01:14:00,239
What says Hope, I don't lose? Please stay? I want you on,

1083
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:15,319
need you hod dude? I kind
of did this kid, And I

1084
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,319
like bringing a little bit of new
music, new sound a little bit.

1085
01:14:17,359 --> 01:14:21,840
It's not country, no, I
would say, it's rock is what I

1086
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:26,720
would call it. And you know
Bencil boomed, Yeah, it's really well

1087
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:30,319
produced. Yeah does that sound good? Pat? I thought so. Tim

1088
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:33,159
Graham is writer for the Athletic.
We are going to call him. I

1089
01:14:33,159 --> 01:14:38,119
believe you just got off television,
uh talking about the draft. But I

1090
01:14:38,119 --> 01:14:42,960
want to ask him something first before
we get into any draft stuff. Let's

1091
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,800
see Tim Graham from The Athletic,
former Buffalo News reporter, one of my

1092
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:51,239
favorite guys writers. Hell, hello, mister Graham. How are you good

1093
01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:55,520
yourself? I am, well.
I have a question before we begin,

1094
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,239
and the question is do you like
the draft? Meaning do you like the

1095
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:02,760
speculation and playing out the scenarios?
Is it fun for you? Are you

1096
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:09,000
more of a make your pick and
let me know and I'll decipher it after.

1097
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,720
Yeah, I think it's a waste
of time. Yeah, I agree,

1098
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,640
I can totally. I can totally
see where that is. But boy,

1099
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:23,760
they've turned that into an absolute show. If you were to make the

1100
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:30,520
draft its own league, it would
probably be more popular than Baseball and the

1101
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,840
National Hockey Yes, it would probably
be the third most popular sport in America.

1102
01:15:34,039 --> 01:15:38,199
Isn't that amazing? What what the
NFL has done. I mean,

1103
01:15:38,239 --> 01:15:43,960
they they're now a year round sport
for sure. In terms of for sure,

1104
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,680
they've staggered everything perfectly. So that
way there, with the exception of

1105
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:51,079
July. Yeah, the first maybe
the last week of June. In the

1106
01:15:51,079 --> 01:15:57,960
first three weeks of July before training
camps open, that's uh, they're they're

1107
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:02,600
a full there's there's all news.
There's always something going on that's amazing,

1108
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:09,800
all right. So the Bills have
picks twenty eight and sixty at least in

1109
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,439
the first two days. I know
they have a number of picks, but

1110
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:18,319
twenty eight and sixty do Looking and
you and being very familiar tim with Brandon

1111
01:16:18,359 --> 01:16:23,279
Bean and the ability to move in
a draft, do you expect that to

1112
01:16:23,359 --> 01:16:28,640
happen tomorrow? Probably one way or
the other based on what he said last

1113
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,640
week. He said that they don't
have twenty eight first round grades on players.

1114
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:38,479
Therefore, he is saying that the
value of that twenty eighth pick is

1115
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:42,119
out a whack. So there's two
things you could do. You could trade

1116
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:49,039
up to get a to use a
first round pick, a more powerized first

1117
01:16:49,079 --> 01:16:55,079
round pick on a first round player
that you have on your board, or

1118
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:59,600
you trade out of the first round, accumulate more draft capital in terms of

1119
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:04,479
picks with another team and draft a
second rounder that you have in a second

1120
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:09,560
round slot. So, if you
are picking twenty eight and you're picking a

1121
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:14,399
player you don't think is a first
round caliber player, then you would want

1122
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:18,439
to get out of it. You
would want to give it to somebody who

1123
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:25,119
does give it a first round value
and accumulate that draft capital for either later

1124
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:29,119
in this year's draft or maybe even
next year's draft. What what do you

1125
01:17:29,159 --> 01:17:32,159
say to the possibility? And I've
heard people speculate, and that's always the

1126
01:17:32,199 --> 01:17:39,079
fun thing for fans to do.
It's called fandom getting a veteran receiver and

1127
01:17:39,239 --> 01:17:43,239
trading some first round picks to get
the veteran receiver, maybe a twenty twenty

1128
01:17:43,239 --> 01:17:46,319
five first rounder or something like that. Is that a likely scenario to happen

1129
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:51,600
only because of the trade with Digs? Obviously, I don't know. I

1130
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,000
wouldn't say likely. And of course, you know, it goes back to

1131
01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:57,439
the very first question you ask me. I mean, so much of this

1132
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,680
is you know. I don't I
don't know. I mean, I mean

1133
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:08,520
when people when people ask me questions
about like the draft or even what's going

1134
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:12,239
to happen in the big game tomorrow
against the Dolphins, I mean, what

1135
01:18:12,279 --> 01:18:15,640
the hell do I know? And
I'm the first one to admit I know

1136
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,279
that there's a lot of puffing that
goes on in my profession. And heaven

1137
01:18:19,399 --> 01:18:24,520
forbid that you ever admit that you
don't know something because there's people who get

1138
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,640
paid to like just keep going and
going and talking until that something comes out

1139
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,680
of their mouth. That makes sense. But so I don't have inside info

1140
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:36,800
on how likely that is, but
it's plausible because there are some big name

1141
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:42,239
receivers who are out there and available
first round picks. I don't know,

1142
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,560
giving up a first round pick for
Key Higgins Brandon Ayuk with the San Francisco

1143
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:50,840
forty nine ers that interests me a
little bit more so I think I is

1144
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:56,479
it is it? It's plausible for
sure because there are there are players like

1145
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:01,880
that available and Brandon Bean has a
history of doing We'll go on to something

1146
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,159
non draft related, but a little
more in the news with the Buffalo Bills,

1147
01:19:05,399 --> 01:19:10,840
and I believe you were the first
to report that Terry Pagoula was exploring

1148
01:19:11,239 --> 01:19:15,359
selling about twenty five percent of the
team of the Buffalo Bills, And I

1149
01:19:15,399 --> 01:19:19,680
think that kind of scared some people. But tell me if this is kind

1150
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:24,600
of the right way to look at
it. Terry is an older gentleman,

1151
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,680
his wife's health has not been been
fantastic. If the team were to be

1152
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:34,359
left to family, the taxes on
that would almost prohibit owning the team.

1153
01:19:34,399 --> 01:19:39,039
You'd almost have to sell it to
cover that stuff. So to secure the

1154
01:19:39,079 --> 01:19:42,680
team being here in western New York
and to cover some of this expense with

1155
01:19:43,119 --> 01:19:47,039
the stadium, it seemed like a
pretty smart move to look or at least

1156
01:19:47,079 --> 01:19:53,520
explore selling a minority stake in the
team. Would that be fair? Yes,

1157
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:59,920
it's fair. And this provides tremendous
liquidity. Terry p according to four

1158
01:20:00,079 --> 01:20:03,560
RBS, is worth six billion dollars
or something like that. I thought just

1159
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,479
kind of taking a seven. But
he doesn't have that in the bank.

1160
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:13,359
You know, that's tied up in
mostly the Buffalo Bills and his oil businesses,

1161
01:20:13,399 --> 01:20:15,079
you know, the oil wells that
are out there and whether they're producing

1162
01:20:15,119 --> 01:20:18,800
and depending on what the rate is
for natural gas at the moment. But

1163
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:24,960
this gives him liquidity at about what
he paid for the team. So he

1164
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:30,479
has seventy five percent of a team
with controlling interest kind of for free,

1165
01:20:30,039 --> 01:20:33,880
which is a hell of an investment
to be able to make it does the

1166
01:20:34,119 --> 01:20:40,119
As you know, the Bills were
the record breaking deal at one point four

1167
01:20:40,199 --> 01:20:44,479
billion ten years ago. That record
has since been broken with each subsequent sale,

1168
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:48,319
three of them, first Carolina,
then Denver, most recently Washington at

1169
01:20:48,359 --> 01:20:56,520
six point zero five billion. So
the valuations are skyrocketing, the capital gains

1170
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:01,479
and the estate taxes are likewise skyrocketing. You raise a great point. But

1171
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:06,479
one other wrinkle to this is that
the Pagoulas are on the hook for any

1172
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:13,239
overages on the bills stadium. So
the state is paying six hundred million that

1173
01:21:13,359 --> 01:21:16,920
is capped. Erie County is paying
two hundred and fifty million that is capped.

1174
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:21,399
The Pagoulas are paying the rest.
Now, there is a bit of

1175
01:21:21,399 --> 01:21:26,279
a loan. I don't have it
in front of me, but there's a

1176
01:21:26,319 --> 01:21:30,520
loan that they get from the National
Football League that is pretty easy to pay

1177
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,760
back. There are the PSLs that
have not been popular. They are going

1178
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:39,880
to use that to help fund it. But this all right. So I

1179
01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:43,359
was the only one that reported the
twenty five percent number, and that's a

1180
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,760
rough figure. And the reason,
the way it's been explained to me is

1181
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:50,279
that Terry Pegula has an idea of
how much money he wants in this sale,

1182
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:56,439
and if you reverse engineer it and
based on the valuations that people are

1183
01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:00,840
that the bills expect, that it
works out to be about twenty five So

1184
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:06,159
let's say, you know, the
Bills are the average according to Forbes,

1185
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:11,279
again, which is kind of these
are estimates on their valuations. The average

1186
01:22:11,399 --> 01:22:16,159
NFL team is at about five point
one billion valuation. The Bills, of

1187
01:22:16,199 --> 01:22:19,239
course, are at the bottom of
that, not the rock bottom, but

1188
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:26,840
the Cincinnati Bengals, Buffalo Green Bay, which is the smallest market out of

1189
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,279
all, but they're publicly owned and
they're grandfathered in with the old system.

1190
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,279
But let's say the bills, just
for the sake of discussion, are at

1191
01:22:32,359 --> 01:22:38,359
four billion, and that that twenty
five percent works out to be one billion.

1192
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,239
That would also take care, that
would take care of the stadium,

1193
01:22:41,279 --> 01:22:45,000
any any overages or whatever is going
to happen there. So yeah, there

1194
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:48,760
are all kinds of reasons for him
to do this, and people that I

1195
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:55,399
talk to across the board, I'm
talking about analysts of people who broker such

1196
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,760
deals, and they are not easy
to find, but they do exist,

1197
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:04,000
and in my twenty plus years twenty
five years or so of covering professional sports,

1198
01:23:04,039 --> 01:23:06,920
I've happened to deal with a lot
of them. I covered the Miami

1199
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:11,359
Dolphins sale, I covered the Sabers
when they went into bankruptcy, and the

1200
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,239
Rigases went to jail, and then
Galazano bought the team, and then I

1201
01:23:15,279 --> 01:23:19,479
covered Pagula buying the bills. And
I've covered a few of these, and

1202
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:24,199
so I do have these people that
I can call and bounce these off of

1203
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:28,000
these things off of and to a
person, they say, this is a

1204
01:23:28,119 --> 01:23:30,880
very smart investment for Terry or a
very smart thing for Terry Pagula to do.

1205
01:23:31,119 --> 01:23:34,760
Yeah, because that is well money, you need to liquid it.

1206
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:42,479
Lit liquidity has brings a lot of
opportunity and possibilities that you can do with

1207
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,800
that money. Till let me ask, if he sells, you know,

1208
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:46,720
a piece of the team, what
kind of headaches come along with having co

1209
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,279
owners now? Because they own one
hundred percent of it. Now you got

1210
01:23:49,279 --> 01:23:53,279
a partner coming in and they don't
have a controlling interest, but they have

1211
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,920
some say don't they? I mean, could that be could they generate a

1212
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,560
headache so to speak? Or is
that just like, hey, like you're

1213
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,199
buying cheers and team, but I'm
still in charge and my way or the

1214
01:24:01,279 --> 01:24:05,079
highway. Is there any like does
you have to like be more How do

1215
01:24:05,119 --> 01:24:11,079
I put this diplomatic when it comes
to team decisions? Well, that's a

1216
01:24:11,079 --> 01:24:14,199
great question. And it's possible,
but you know that's all going to be

1217
01:24:14,399 --> 01:24:18,880
broker in the agreement. But you
can assume safely that somebody who is putting

1218
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:23,239
out and again we're using these ballpark
figures, somebody who is going to pony

1219
01:24:23,319 --> 01:24:27,840
up a billion dollars for twenty five
percent of an NFL team is going to

1220
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,560
want some things. Now, that
doesn't necessarily mean that Terry Pogoula has to

1221
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:40,439
grant them. So there's no way
to look at this and say XYZ is

1222
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:43,880
coming or this is going to happen. But what I think you can safely

1223
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,000
assume is that there's going to be
a rite of first refusal in a deal

1224
01:24:47,199 --> 01:24:53,640
like this. Very common, I
don't even know if it's automatic, but

1225
01:24:54,399 --> 01:25:00,319
very common that if the Pagola family
were to sell its controlling interest, that

1226
01:25:00,399 --> 01:25:04,119
would be because they can sell more
another chunk of the team. They can

1227
01:25:04,159 --> 01:25:08,159
sell in second twenty five percent of
the team if they want, They can

1228
01:25:08,199 --> 01:25:12,119
actually sell up to seventy percent of
the team and still maintain controlling interests as

1229
01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:15,760
long as thirty percent remains in the
family. Yes, as long as thirty

1230
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:20,720
percent remains within the family, they
can control it. So Terry Paula can

1231
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:25,520
sell all that all he wants.
But this right of first refusal gets into

1232
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:31,079
the possibility of if Terry Pagoula were
to decide himself which he may do,

1233
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:39,800
or if his estate or if he
gives the even if his children own the

1234
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,399
team for a little while, let's
say ten fifteen years after his death,

1235
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:48,840
they decide to sell, then whoever
owns that again estimated twenty five percent,

1236
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:54,079
These other limited partners have the right
of first refusal to come in and say,

1237
01:25:54,119 --> 01:25:57,960
we are purchasing the remainder. If
this can or whatever you're selling as

1238
01:25:58,039 --> 01:26:02,560
controlling percentage of the team, we
have the ability to match anybody else out

1239
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,359
there. And of course they already
owned twenty five percent of it, so

1240
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:11,600
they are getting a team at seventy
five cents on the dollar, which is

1241
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,760
still going to be billions and billions
of dollars, but they have already owned

1242
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,319
a chunk of it that they invested
back in twenty twenty four. Tim,

1243
01:26:17,359 --> 01:26:21,760
how when you decided to become a
writer, did you ever think you'd be

1244
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:27,960
doing this much? Math? Right? None? Well, from a statistical

1245
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,600
standpoint, yeah, I don't earned
runs times nine if by any pitch,

1246
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,000
Yeah, you know, I can
do a save percentage and it goals against

1247
01:26:35,079 --> 01:26:38,760
I could do all that, but
no, nothing like that. I mean

1248
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,039
that that's crazy. But you really
need some in depth stuff. I have

1249
01:26:42,079 --> 01:26:45,119
to think for you, it's got
to feel pretty good because you got this

1250
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,279
right from the bills, Right,
they came to you with this stuff.

1251
01:26:49,319 --> 01:26:53,439
Well, no, no, I
came to them with it. Okay,

1252
01:26:53,279 --> 01:26:57,640
they were not happy that I knew
that the but but you went to them

1253
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:00,720
to get confirmed and yeah, I
think that's yes, Well I had them

1254
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,479
kind of you know, I had
enough information and I was able to share

1255
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,680
it with them that they knew I
wasn't on a fishing expedition. Yeah,

1256
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:11,880
and they they knew that it was. They would have to confirm it or

1257
01:27:12,119 --> 01:27:15,880
flat out lie to me, and
uh, they Hey, I've been lyed

1258
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,039
to before, but on something like
this, I had enough information that they

1259
01:27:19,039 --> 01:27:21,880
wouldn't. Wouldn't have been the smartest
thing to let me ask you this.

1260
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:26,000
You know, the Mara family,
the Hunt family in Kansas City, the

1261
01:27:26,079 --> 01:27:29,239
Rooneyes with the with the Steelers,
they've been able to keep the team in

1262
01:27:29,279 --> 01:27:31,680
the family forever. Is there a
secret sauce in how to do that?

1263
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,279
Because I mean you were you covered
the Dolphins when was a Heizinga who owned

1264
01:27:35,279 --> 01:27:40,119
the team and they had to sell
what Joe Robbie, Okay, what's what's

1265
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:44,479
the what's the difference between those,
you know situations that the Steelers have been

1266
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,479
able to keep the team. The
Hunts have been able to keep the Chiefs,

1267
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,159
the Maras, and the Tishes have
been able to keep the Giants,

1268
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:54,600
but the Dolphins have been sold several
times. Yeah, Wayne Heyzinga sold to

1269
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,079
Stephen Ross back in eight I think
it was when I was covering it.

1270
01:27:58,119 --> 01:28:01,399
Maybe it was O seven. But
you would be surprised some of those teams

1271
01:28:01,399 --> 01:28:06,800
that you just rattled off. Those
are famous names of owners, but if

1272
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,800
you were to take a look at
their ownership situation, you would see that

1273
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:15,680
it is watered down. For instance, the Hallises and the mccaskey's, they're

1274
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,960
down into single digit percentages of what
they owe the Steelers. The Steelers have

1275
01:28:20,079 --> 01:28:24,880
always had limited partners. Jimmy Haslam, the current Cleveland Browns owner, used

1276
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:29,239
to own a big chunk of the
Pittsburgh Steelers. So they don't stay within

1277
01:28:29,279 --> 01:28:32,439
the family. They have been sold
off. And there's another element coming in

1278
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,720
here. I don't know if this
is you know, talking business sometimes is

1279
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:40,760
boring. Listening to it's even more
boring. But it is interesting when you

1280
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:44,079
know, when you heard about Stuffy
and trying to keep it, keep the

1281
01:28:44,119 --> 01:28:47,880
team in Buffalo, I think yeah, because there's another There's another little factor

1282
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,159
that could be at play here eventually
and maybe very soon, is that the

1283
01:28:51,279 --> 01:28:57,560
NFL is the last of the major
sports leagues that doesn't allow private equity companies

1284
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,560
to buy a percentage of your You
have to be a person, you can't

1285
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,640
be a company buying into the team. Well, the NFL has been on

1286
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:10,119
the verge of approving it at private
equity to get involved for some time,

1287
01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:15,239
and again it's to alleviate taxes,
you know, estate type stuff, secession

1288
01:29:15,319 --> 01:29:25,239
planning, and so the NFL and
there are as the prices skyrocket, there

1289
01:29:25,239 --> 01:29:29,840
are fewer people able to even buy
a team, so they're there there.

1290
01:29:30,399 --> 01:29:32,760
The NBA, Major League Baseball,
the NHL already allows it. The NFL

1291
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:38,479
is on the verge. It could
happen even as soon as next month,

1292
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,640
I think, or the next owner's
meetings after that is in October. So

1293
01:29:43,159 --> 01:29:45,960
if this doesn't happen quickly, a
deal Terry Pegula could end up selling to

1294
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:51,359
a non an entity as opposed to
a person or a group of people that

1295
01:29:51,399 --> 01:29:57,640
could be on the table. That
private equity could be partial owner of the

1296
01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,840
Buffalo Bills. That's very interesting.
So Magic John and could have a piece

1297
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,319
of the Bills, the La Dodgers, He's got a little bit of everything.

1298
01:30:03,359 --> 01:30:05,600
Does he owned something in one of
the baseball teams in New York?

1299
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,920
I thought he was part of something
with the Magics, with the Dodgers.

1300
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,640
Dodgers, but he's with the Dodgers. But I thought there was something in

1301
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,760
New York with Magic. I don't
know a Knicks thing. There's something,

1302
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,880
well, the Knicks are doling.
But I was like, it's amazing to

1303
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:21,199
me that you get your hands in
that many places. But you can if

1304
01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:26,079
you join into, like Tim is
saying, one of these equity groups and

1305
01:30:26,119 --> 01:30:30,279
you get some money. Here's the
thing about NFL owners they hit There are

1306
01:30:30,319 --> 01:30:34,199
bylaws for ownership. They are highly
secretive. I would love to have a

1307
01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:40,880
copy of these bylaws. I've tried
for years to get one, But they're

1308
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:45,960
also incredibly the shelf life on these
by laws is short because these guys change

1309
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:50,399
the rules all the time. Sure, and so for instance, it wasn't

1310
01:30:50,399 --> 01:30:54,479
that long ago. And I'm going
back to when Terry Pabula was buying the

1311
01:30:54,520 --> 01:31:00,359
team. One of the the automatic
things that would appear in any story that

1312
01:31:00,399 --> 01:31:04,399
I wrote about who's buying whatever team
was you know the number of the types

1313
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:08,560
of people who are eligible to buy
it, and it was I would have

1314
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:16,039
to explain how for instance, Jeremy
Jacobs, owner of Delaware North Concession Company

1315
01:31:16,079 --> 01:31:21,039
based in Buffalo, who also owns
the Boston Bruins. There was a lot

1316
01:31:21,079 --> 01:31:24,760
of people would say, well,
maybe Jerry V. Jacobs would buy the

1317
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:29,119
Bills someday. He couldn't. For
a long time, he wasn't allowed because

1318
01:31:29,159 --> 01:31:34,439
he owns the Boston Bruins, and
the NFL viewed that as competition for the

1319
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:39,880
New England Patriots. You are only
allowed to own another sports team if it

1320
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:43,720
was in the market of your NFL
team. So Jeremy Jacobs could buy the

1321
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,760
Patriots or he would have to sell
the Bruins. But he couldn't own the

1322
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:51,159
Bruins and the Bills. Well,
that was shot to hell a few years

1323
01:31:51,239 --> 01:31:56,279
later. When the Kronkey family owns
everything, you know, they have four

1324
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,199
they however, many teams they owned, and there are too many, There

1325
01:31:59,239 --> 01:32:02,199
were too many other owners that had
their fingers and other leagues, and the

1326
01:32:02,319 --> 01:32:05,960
NFL had to keep walking it back, walking it back. The Rooneys,

1327
01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:09,520
you used to not be able,
you know, of course, now you

1328
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:14,560
can do whatever you want and gambling
practically, it used to be cardinal sin.

1329
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,439
You could not be involved in any
gambling operation as an owner of an

1330
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:23,600
NFL team. Well, the Rooney
family got its start in horse tracks and

1331
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:29,319
dog tracks so down in Florida.
So then they said, okay, well

1332
01:32:29,319 --> 01:32:31,880
horse racing is not gambling, that
doesn't count. Well, then all of

1333
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:36,199
a sudden, what happens over the
last twenty thirty years. Horse racing and

1334
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,680
dog racing is going out of business
because of lack of interest. So they

1335
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:44,800
start pumping them full of slot machines. So now the Roonies are in the

1336
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,079
slot machine business. Well, now
we got to rework the deal. So

1337
01:32:47,159 --> 01:32:54,239
the rumies and so it's their only
rules until they become inconvenient, and then

1338
01:32:54,279 --> 01:33:00,359
the NFL just says, okay,
then we won't do that anymore. Right,

1339
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,880
it doesn't take an Act of Congress. They write their own rules.

1340
01:33:03,159 --> 01:33:06,520
So yeah, there's who's they can
all it takes is a phone gets get

1341
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:11,079
thirty two people on a on a
conference call, and we'll just change the

1342
01:33:11,159 --> 01:33:14,640
rule and then we don't have to
worry about it. Man. That's that's

1343
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:19,439
very interesting to know because even just
gambling in general with sports now, I

1344
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:24,199
mean, we're all encouraged. Right, We've got sports betting all over the

1345
01:33:24,199 --> 01:33:27,920
place, and it's done gangbusters for
the state of New York in terms of

1346
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:35,359
taxes. Absolutely, and you know
it's we're seeing players get suspended. The

1347
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:41,079
NBA just suspended a player for life. You know, there are all kinds

1348
01:33:41,119 --> 01:33:45,640
of things, scandals. I mean, how close are we to a referee

1349
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,119
or you know, there was always
already the tim Donnie, but you know

1350
01:33:48,199 --> 01:33:55,680
we're going to find somebody who's insider
trading on you because you know, for

1351
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:59,079
instance, here's one that always pops
into my head. So the National.

1352
01:33:59,079 --> 01:34:05,239
When there's a National, it is
traditional that the broadcasters, whether it's Mike

1353
01:34:05,319 --> 01:34:10,640
Tarrico or Troy Aikman and Joe Buck
or whomever, the crew Tony Romo and

1354
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,600
Jim Nantz, a couple of days
before the game, they get to sit

1355
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,159
down with the coach and the quarterback
and the coordinators maybe, and they talk

1356
01:34:17,319 --> 01:34:21,560
so that way they're smart about the
strategy about you know, what may happen

1357
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,520
in the game. They might even
learn about a trick play, so that

1358
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,079
way they're prepared for it. And
then they're kind of you know, the

1359
01:34:28,239 --> 01:34:30,439
gentlemen's agreement is you don't share the
information. You keep it to yourself.

1360
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:34,520
It's for the broadcast. And they've
talked to both teams. Well, well,

1361
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:39,279
who's to stop the production assistant,
who's sitting in that meeting, or

1362
01:34:39,359 --> 01:34:46,159
Tony Romo himself right from friend?
Yeah, or anybody you know, or

1363
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,520
maybe I happen to run into somebody
at the grocery store who I recognize it

1364
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,880
and he's a he's a coach for
the Bills. I'm like, hey,

1365
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:57,800
what do you think of what do
you think of Khalil Shakir catching three and

1366
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:02,000
a half passes on do you think
that's Do you think that's that? You

1367
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,840
know, there's all kinds of ways
that this you know that you cannot be

1368
01:35:06,399 --> 01:35:10,600
they don't have to be directly involved
in placing it that right, but can

1369
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,760
still be corrupt about it. Tim, I don't know if you caught this.

1370
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,800
So the Nuggets, the Nuggets,
Lakers, series. Right, the

1371
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,840
Nuggets are up two games to none. Everyone's focused on Lebron going off about

1372
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:24,119
the refs and ad going about the
refs. And then they asked Kevin Malone,

1373
01:35:24,119 --> 01:35:27,960
the head coach of the Nuggets.
I asked them about the officials and

1374
01:35:28,039 --> 01:35:30,279
whatnot. He goes, well,
we did some research. We found out

1375
01:35:30,279 --> 01:35:35,079
that they've had five hundred more free
throws than we do this year, Like

1376
01:35:35,119 --> 01:35:40,079
the Lakers are getting like extra free
throws and like five hundred more than like

1377
01:35:40,119 --> 01:35:43,880
the Nuggets. People are looking at
it like are the officials up to something?

1378
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:45,760
Now? I'm not saying they are, But ESPN actually took that clip

1379
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:53,840
down when people started asking questions about
it. I did not hear that,

1380
01:35:54,119 --> 01:35:58,880
but I do. I had look. When I was at ESPN from two

1381
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,840
thousand and eight to two and an
eleven, we had an editor. This

1382
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:06,720
was not a company policy. It
was this particular editor who oversaw the NFL

1383
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:13,199
writers. We weren't allowed to even
mention who and the word underdog or favorite,

1384
01:36:13,239 --> 01:36:16,680
let alone put any spread. We
weren't. We were forbidden from mentioning

1385
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:24,960
gambling. That was what fourteen years
ago. Thirteen years ago and now there

1386
01:36:25,039 --> 01:36:30,399
are every everything on that on that
network, on that website. You know

1387
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:36,000
they have got after going to get
your dream, I mean pushing it.

1388
01:36:36,079 --> 01:36:44,079
Like the main some of the main
content that we produce as journalists today have

1389
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:46,439
to do with you know, the
gambling part of it, gambling, the

1390
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:50,760
fantasy, you know, all that
stuff. And so it's, uh man,

1391
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:57,840
it's changed. And the owners they
were I think it's they've opened the

1392
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,760
Pandora's box. They're gonna have to
deal with whatever scam those coming. But

1393
01:37:01,039 --> 01:37:05,479
that is the reason why the Commander
sold for six point zero five billion.

1394
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:12,000
It is all these revenue streams that
are just like there're spigots that nobody can

1395
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,920
nobody wants to shut off, and
probably nobody can't. Maybe spigot's a bad

1396
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,479
word. Maybe it's the fire hos. It might be more of a fire

1397
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:20,039
hose, because I mean, look, hey, teams weren't even allowed in

1398
01:37:20,119 --> 01:37:24,800
Vegas. Now we're getting professional baseball. We already have hockey, we already

1399
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,079
have football, and now the athletics
will be there. I might just move

1400
01:37:28,119 --> 01:37:31,680
there. Why they moved from there? I was, I was there.

1401
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,760
There was no possible. I lived
there for five years as a sports writer.

1402
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:40,439
I left for Buffalo to be in
a finger quotes big League city.

1403
01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:45,119
You know that was ninety that was
the year two thousand, that was January

1404
01:37:45,159 --> 01:37:49,439
two thousand and now. I mean
it would be because it just sung just

1405
01:37:50,039 --> 01:37:55,119
a little bit. I don't think
I could have survived in Vegas much longer

1406
01:37:55,319 --> 01:38:00,000
the way I make like decisions.
But it was, yeah, it was.

1407
01:38:00,199 --> 01:38:02,640
It was impossible. It was never
gonna happen. It could not happen.

1408
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,800
Uh. Well, I I don't
want to take too go ahead,

1409
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,520
Danny, So I don't Yeah,
we don't want to take too much of

1410
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,279
your time. But like the story
that's going to be overshadowed in twenty four

1411
01:38:11,319 --> 01:38:14,640
hours is Lindy Ruff, of course
getting hired by rehired by the Sabers.

1412
01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:17,760
They've missed the playoffs for so long, and I haven't been I stopped watching

1413
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,680
hockey when Hoschik lost the puck and
the lights in Pittsburgh in Game six and

1414
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:24,319
then they went on to lose game
seould like I'm done with hockey. I

1415
01:38:24,359 --> 01:38:27,680
can't do this anymore. But what
what is the what do you think is

1416
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:30,800
the overall problem in Buffalo with hockey
and why this team can't get back to

1417
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:35,720
the just back to the playoffs.
I think it goes back to the tank.

1418
01:38:36,079 --> 01:38:41,239
I think it was you know,
it totally gutted the organization from a

1419
01:38:41,319 --> 01:38:45,039
pride standpoint, from a direction culture. Their culture became losing on purpose.

1420
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:49,680
And I know that that sounds pretty
simplistic, but they just weren't able to

1421
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:55,960
come out of the ashes. Uh. They didn't have the leadership they're you

1422
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:59,159
know, the list is long of
guys who couldn't wait to get out.

1423
01:38:59,239 --> 01:39:02,880
They wanted to leave, even read
just two months ago. Kylock Poso,

1424
01:39:03,079 --> 01:39:06,640
the beloved captain. And when I
say beloved, maybe not by the fans

1425
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:11,920
even though he was respected, but
Don Grenado, Kevin Adams, the ownership,

1426
01:39:12,039 --> 01:39:16,319
They loved Kyle Poso. They really
were thrilled to put the s on

1427
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,520
him. And I thought he was
a great choice too, and he turned

1428
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:24,640
out to be fine. But even
he wanted out. You know, this

1429
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:28,359
is the guy who helped build whatever
the current culture is. And at the

1430
01:39:28,399 --> 01:39:30,560
trade deadline he was like, Hey, if you guys can get me to

1431
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:32,399
a contender, I love it.
You know. So this is when the

1432
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:36,800
when the Savers were still trying to
market themselves as being able, maybe being

1433
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:41,079
able to make a run and get
into the playoffs. Their captain wanted out.

1434
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,640
You know Ryan O'Reilly and Sam Ryan
Hart. And you take a look.

1435
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:49,880
I think Sunday Night, every the
Sunday games, every every game had

1436
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:56,520
a former Sabers score a goal in
it. They are that it was Yeah,

1437
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:03,039
Ryan O'Reilly, Steve Jimmy VC.
Yes there was, there were two.

1438
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:08,000
Casey Middlestats scored one and I can't
remember the other. But yeah,

1439
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,960
every game had a had a former
Safer score goal. Guys just want to

1440
01:40:12,159 --> 01:40:17,119
it's it's toxic, and Lindy Ruff
is probably the kind of guy who can

1441
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:24,279
who can make a big, a
big dent in that toxicity because he can

1442
01:40:24,359 --> 01:40:28,600
be a throwback to a better time. But he's also a disciplinarian. I

1443
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:32,279
think that you know, Don Granado
was a bit of a I don't want

1444
01:40:32,279 --> 01:40:35,279
to say he was soft, but
he kind of he didn't. They need

1445
01:40:35,279 --> 01:40:40,039
a hard reset, and Lindy Ruff
is the type of guy who's going to

1446
01:40:40,079 --> 01:40:45,079
command their attention. He's charismatic,
he is a kind of I've always said

1447
01:40:45,079 --> 01:40:49,920
he's like a Clint Eastwood figure,
a man's man, worthy of respect.

1448
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:54,760
He's the type of guy you want
to impress I'm talking like people who are

1449
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,600
around Lindy Ruff, who work for
the Savers, who play for him,

1450
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:03,840
they like they they crave his his
his certification, his stamp of approval.

1451
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:10,479
You want Lindy Rouff to to like
you, and that's some people just have

1452
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:14,359
that aura about him. And he's
one of those guys. He might not

1453
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:19,279
be the best coach, but he
is the He is a personality that is

1454
01:41:19,319 --> 01:41:24,680
perfect for what they need right now. Tim Graham, not only a journalist

1455
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,800
also a good dad, was doing
college visits and all I'm sure that was

1456
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:32,880
a lot of fun. No,
we you know why it's not fun for

1457
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:39,439
the parent because you start to long
drive long drive and you see that bill,

1458
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,960
you see what's coming, you can
see the future and yeah, that's

1459
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,680
part of the slide show. And
before you take the tour, you're sitting

1460
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,800
in the auditorium with a bunch of
other parents and then they flash a couple

1461
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,119
of prices up there and you're like, oh Christ, let's just get up

1462
01:41:51,159 --> 01:41:58,760
and leave now. Well, anyway, I appreciate your time and enjoy the

1463
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:00,680
draft as much as you can.
Thanks Tim, all right, fellas,

1464
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,520
thanks for having me. You got
it. Thank you. Tim Graham there.

1465
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:08,439
You think they gotta vet the minority
owners the same way they would if

1466
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:14,159
do they because if he's got the
writer first refusal, they're gonna it's gonna

1467
01:42:14,159 --> 01:42:16,439
be like a virtual colonoscopy for her
feature these people, I mean, like

1468
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:19,920
no criminal record. As a very
invested Bills fan, that's good news.

1469
01:42:20,079 --> 01:42:24,119
Well, I kind of liked it
because I think it was sort of a

1470
01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:28,159
move to make sure that they stay
here. There's there's often been or over

1471
01:42:28,199 --> 01:42:31,439
the past couple of years, Austin's
interested in the team. Could the Bills

1472
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:35,359
go there Toronto? I don't think
Jerry would allow another team in Texas,

1473
01:42:35,399 --> 01:42:40,319
But yeah, I know, as
Jerry, how much time does Jerry having

1474
01:42:40,359 --> 01:42:43,479
And we've heard how the rules change
and there's money, and you know what

1475
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:46,000
I'm saying, like Tim saying the
owner's rewrite the rules once Jerry's out of

1476
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,640
the way, how much more does
Jerry have He's saying, I think over

1477
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:54,479
Steve, Steve is a lot sharper
than uh. But yeah, I mean

1478
01:42:55,039 --> 01:42:58,199
really the guy from the organization is
Steve and his son Jerry just like the

1479
01:42:58,239 --> 01:43:00,399
figurehead. And I still think like
when it to the other owners, Jerry

1480
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,319
has more Cashet oh, he does, and he's changed the rules. Will

1481
01:43:03,359 --> 01:43:08,720
Steven have that same? Yeah?
Cash, The story is Jerry and Robert

1482
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,479
Kraft run the league. Yeah,
pretty much. But as far as like

1483
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:14,680
ownership goes, there was a guy
who tried to buy the Islanders. I

1484
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,520
think I think it was Spano.
I don't remember his first thing. Yes,

1485
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,000
and he did a thirty for thirty
about this at ESPN. He on

1486
01:43:20,039 --> 01:43:24,119
he had like one hundred thousand dollars, but remember the NHL to let him

1487
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:30,680
fascinating and somehow he negotiated this TV
deal that allowed the franchise to stay around

1488
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,960
for years. And then they exposed
it, but the TV deal was already

1489
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:38,520
set, so they said, he's
arguably the third greatest owner in Islanders history.

1490
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:44,840
Even though the guy couldn't like cash
a check, he just we can't

1491
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:47,039
have this. If you can only
turn that into money, we will.

1492
01:43:47,399 --> 01:43:51,199
We will close it out. Patrick
and Steve, thank you. Getting ready

1493
01:43:51,239 --> 01:43:55,079
for the U. This is gonna
be a whole lot of fun down there.

1494
01:43:55,159 --> 01:43:59,760
The first weekend of August in Western
New York, first weekend and man

1495
01:44:00,119 --> 01:44:02,119
saying August, I don't know,
you're crazy, man, I'm thinking August,

1496
01:44:02,159 --> 01:44:05,600
because we were just talking football,
and I'm thinking like camp and all

1497
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:09,960
that. The first weekend in May. It's just go back there. The

1498
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:14,000
first weekend in May. Uh,
Discovery Channel, Street Outlaws, no prep

1499
01:44:14,159 --> 01:44:20,039
kings. Get your tickets at FOTE
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1500
01:44:20,039 --> 01:44:24,960
that is. That is great for
Dan Burillo, he's gonna join me.

1501
01:44:25,039 --> 01:44:29,159
It's Montconnery's sixteenth anniversary. We're gonna
go over there and we will see you

1502
01:44:30,159 --> 01:45:04,359
tomorrow. What to do, assass