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So ten seasons ago, way back
in season two of this illustrious podcast,

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these words were spoken. Calipari is
the god. Himself is a dwarf.

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Calipari is a god and self is
a dwarf. And all that has happened

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since is this self put down his
bills to Malvi. Because Kansas is played

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Kentucky eleven times in the John Calipari, Bill's self us like their eras five

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different games have been decided by six
points or fewer, and Bill's self is

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five and oh against John Calipari when
the game is two possessions or less.

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Just remarkable how he always gets PayPal
Cal's number, Self put his bills.

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And what a freaking game because he
had some help from superstar players on the

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court. Just a brilliant basketball game
that we get to really open the season

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with. By recapping, Nick has
already put the John Calla Berry old enough

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to l in that halftime interview from
a few years ago in the notes.

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So we are live and well and
kicking. This is inside the paint.

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I think we're gonna rebrand ourselves to
this is the Hunter Dickinson fan appreciation Podcast.

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I'm your host, Ryan Landras,
I'm Gimlee Thedorf. I'm a slightly

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shorter Parker Brown. Well, we'll
get to you, Parker. Don't you

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worry. Kansas beats Kentucky, and
I know the season's only ten days old.

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The best game of the basketball season
thus far, just a brilliant showing

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from two very good basketball teams in
Chicago, A game that went back and

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forth and every which direction, and
it ends with the number one team in

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the country getting the last laugh.
We're gonna talk all about that game,

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and then what's up next? Guys, Maui, Oh, these freaking jay

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Everybody talks about how hard it is
to be a college athlete because they got

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to do class and play at the
same time. How about an all expense

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paid, week long vacation to Honolulu. It's not Malay this year, it's

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Honolulu for the Malai Invitational. Have
either of you what's the closest either of

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you have been to Hawaii? Uh? Salt Lake City? Close? Okay,

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what about you? I was in
my mother's womb when she was in

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Hawaii, so I don't know how
that counts. I've also been in like

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San Francisco, so that's probably the
closest I've been to Hawaii. Also probably

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the closest I've been to a third
world country. Yeah, I've been.

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I've been to Los Angeles and I
was. What is Los Angeles closer to

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New York or Hawaii? It's probably
closer to New York by miles. It

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probably is closer to New York.
Is Los Angeles closer to New York or

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Hawaii? Google says Hawaii is three
thousand, nine hundred and wow, they're

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basically completely even. They are within
ten miles of each other. So yes,

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Los Angeles is right in the middle. That's wild, okay, but

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close enough. All right, let's
talk about how close Kentucky was to beat

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in Kansas, but ultimately they don't
get it done. Let's talk all about

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it. We need a Hunter Dickinson
airhorn because that guy kicks ass, and

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so we'll work on it. Number
one Kansas eighty nine, Number seventeen Kentucky

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eighty four. Game story. Who's
up first, I'll take it. Let's

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see what we got here. Kentucky. They use their speed and shooting to

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overwhelm Kansas and take control of the
game. Late in the first halt,

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they made nine threes in shocking development. Everyone just sit down. An opposing

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team made more threes than anticipated against
the Jayhawks, I know, anchored by

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Reed Shepherd because who else. That
led the Wildcats to take a seven point

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lead into the break. They led
by fourteen fifty eight to forty four with

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sixteen minutes to go in the ball
game before Kansas cleaned up its turnover woes.

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They rode Towan Harris and his three
point shooting of all things, and

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Hunter Dickinson too a furious comeback,
but it was after Kentucky grabbed another six

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point lead at the final TV timeout, which also kJ Adams fouled out right

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around the same time, and it
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the game when kJ finally fouled out, but it was not. KYU used

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its best push of the night,
closing on an eleven to one run to

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edge out Kentucky and sees a thrilling
eighty nine to eighty four win. A

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really really good way for a lot
of people anyway, officially kick off the

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college basketball season. Nick, what
were your general takeaways from a high scoring,

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very fun, maybe a little stressful
affair that Jayhawks do win. Yeah,

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My biggest takeaway is that KU has
the best three headed monster in college

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basketball this year. Ryan alluded to
last night after the g he was saying,

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arguably, this is they have three
of the best top ten best players

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in college basketball on this roster.
I mean, when have you ever seen

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a guy in general, I mean
since like what was the last when Thomas

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Robinson then went for like twenty five
and ten or more, and then Hunter

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Dickinson rolls out on the court puts
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And then you've got a guy who
puts up a triple double, which

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is also pretty unheard of for KU
and another guy who scored a combined three

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points in the first two games of
the year and against mid majors and scores

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twenty three and goes five for six
from three, just all around talk about

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veterans stepping up to play. I
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I've seen under Bill self where guys
really just came to play. And such

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an example too. I was alluding
to it last night as well. It's

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like it's almost like you just know
that comebacks coming in the second half with

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Bill self, you know, down
fourteen. We'll talk a lot about how

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that happened, but down fourteen early
in the second half, and they just

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always respond and they responded in such
a way, especially with this group of

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new guys who obviously Hunter Dickinson hasn't
been in the Bill Seff rotation for very

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long. All these freshmen, you
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playing huge minutes down the stretch,
just all come together to beat a really

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good Kentucky team. We shot the
lights, shot shot the ball really really

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well. So overall, I think
it's just a great a great example of

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grit, and I think this team
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up to be that way heading into
a tough tournament next week. What a

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fun freaking basketball game. Like to
everybody that tells me that they have to

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start with Manhattan and Ryder and Santa
Claus State and all this, like,

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no, no, no, no, Kanada's Schedule's tough. The Champions Classic

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is wonderful. College basketball needs more
like this in their non conference slate.

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It's gotten better over the last few
years. But what a freaking brilliant basketball

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game that was. Kentucky's not going
to get penalized at all on the rankings

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on the seed line on anything at
the end of the year for losing to

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Kansas. As long as you don't
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really isn't a way to truly lose
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your tournament seeding. That was a
blast, What a great test for Kansas

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and a battle landon. You and
I both predicted Kentucky would get blown out

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in this game. I'm amazed at
how well they played, and to be

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fair, they got outscored by a
boatload in the paint. If they make

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like nine threes instead of fourteen,
then this is a double digit l for

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sure, so they definitely shot over
their heads. But I'm not one hundred

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percent convinced. We didn't just watch
two of the best like four or five

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teams in the country play. So
just a brilliant game. I don't understand

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anybody who isn't a fan of having
these sort of matchups scattered all throughout non

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conference play, because this be even
though there was a chance Kansas was gonna

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lose, and at one point they
were definitely a favorite to lose, you

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guys both got admitted, this is
way more fun even if they had lost.

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This sort of game is way more
fun than watching them draw mid major

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after mid major in November. Oh
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don't need Kansas to have le Moyne
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This is or D two Eastern Oregon. If you're Gonzaga, yeah,

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we'll talk about they're Gauntlet. So
there's a few different takeaways that I have

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from this, just I'm not very
organized, so just to throw out a

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few of them. It felt the
whole first half, despite that brigade,

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that Kansas was always going to win. I don't know if there was a

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moment in that first half, despite
KU trailing by as many as ten at

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one point, that they weren't still
my bet to win. Dickinson makes the

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shot at the end and acts like
he has a really big penis with the

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forearm, and you're like, Okay, you know what, Kansas still probably

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gonna win. They're only down seven. Kentucky's plus like twenty one at that

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point on threes and they're only up
by seven and a half. But really,

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it was the first stretch in the
second half that made me think Kentucky

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might win this game. They came
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they got Dickinson turned around a little
bit. They were shutting down Kansas

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on the offense or in the defensive
end. That's when they built the fourteen

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point lead. And even though you
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it felt like Kentucky was really in
control of that game at that point.

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And then Cali Perry made some just
mind boggling decisions with how he took

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Reed Shepherd out, and Dillingham sat
for a long time and it's like,

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I have no idea. The concept
of just playing your best players is something

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that I would think would be obvious, and Cali Perry just didn't do it.

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For a while. The plus minus
in this game for some of Kentucky's

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players is crazy. I figured Kansas
did in control whenever they they made the

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push. And then you know,
we watched some ref ball, we watched

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some some free throws, a lot
of free throws, and we watched Dwan

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Harrison, Hunter Dickinson do great things. Okay, let's laid off with Hunter,

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Dickens, and Nick go ahead and
talk about I feel like like I

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always struggled to figure out who we
should talk about first. There's three absolute

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superstar contenders here, But I feel
like we gotta go with the guy that

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just posted the first twenty twenty game
in the history of the Champions Classic.

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Yeah, ridiculous stat line dominated Kentucky
for twenty seven points, twenty rebounds,

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thirty seven minutes, eight for twelve
from the floor, added three steals ten

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for eleven at their free throw line. Was also a big factor, as

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any of these stats, like we've
talked about, clearly a perfect fit in

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billsolvs. Offense. Maybe looking at
Naismith favor and what's sure to be a

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season filled with ridiculous you know,
box score figures from him, landon,

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you think that this is gonna be
the nasti player of the year when it's

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all said and done. I mean, he's just a really good chance.

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I'm not landing, but yes,
good chance. This is the Naysmith winner.

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Yes, I don't care if Zach
Edy actually wins it. Hunter Dickinson

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will be the best player in college
basketball this year. This is this is

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a match made in absolute heaven.
We knew he was gonna be good,

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but he this dude is a truck, Like my goodness, and Kentucky didn't

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have their seven footer twenty seven and
twenty one. Yeah, I thought you'd

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have a great game, and I
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He wasn't dunking on middle schoolers out
there. He was dunking on six

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eight and six nine guys. Yeah, And the twenty one rebounds is absurd,

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Like I've never I mean, I've
never seen a KU player of twenty

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one boards. I mean, what
do you want to what do you want

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to gotta do? Like, so
Thomas Robins try Mitchell's incompetent. Trey Mitchell

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is like pretty solid. So Thomas
Robinson was the last Jayhawk to get twenty

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rebounds in a game. He had
thirty and twenty one on New Year's Eve

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against North Dakota. The list of
players to have twenty five and twenty in

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a game under Bill Self, Wayne
Simeon, Thomas Robinson, Hunter, Dickinson.

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That's it. We've talked about Dickinson
in comparing him to both of those

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guys, and that list fits.
But what sets Dickinson's game apart. Wayne

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Simons came against South Carolina State,
Thomas Robinson's came against the University of North

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Dakot. Hunter Dickinson went out there
and did it against a Kentucky team that,

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if I have a vote, is
in the top ten come Monday's poll.

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Little different story who Hunter's doing it
against. We talked about how he

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might be like Dedrick Lawson, old
man at the gym kind of no,

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no, no, no, no. Hunter Dickinson is a freaking lunatic out

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there. He makes threes, he
rebounds everything, and he's got a lot

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of game. This is a guy
who's gonna be in the NBA next year.

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Enjoy your one season because he is
going to By the time all said

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and done, Bill self has coached
Naysmith winners. Bill self has coached first

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round draft picks. Bill self has
coached first team All Americans. Hunter Dickinson's

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the best offensive player Bill selves ever
had. Dickinson still is the old man

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at the why. He's just extremely
good at that. He's better than the

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old man at the why. He's
so much he has so many more elements

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to his game than old man at
the gym. Throw it in the post,

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just go up like. Dickinson's a
better three point shooter than that style

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of game. Dickinson was out at
the top of the perimeter, setting up

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kJ Adams to do his thing,
which is really what fueled the Kansas coming

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back. Like, and he's an
outstanding outlet passer. That's one of the

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things I noticed about Dickinson. So
yeah, that's an extremely underrated part I

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think right now. Yeah, his
passing ability and his ability to look ahead

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very high and three steals, like
I don't know, there's no weakness in

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this guy's game. He's the best
offensive player of the Self era. I

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don't know what the stats are going
to look like at the end of the

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year. I predict you're gonna see
a lot of big numbers. But for

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blow for blow, there's this is
the best fit in bill Selves offense,

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and we knew it was a match
and boy Bill has to just be thrilled

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every single day that he gets this
guy on his team. I want to

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talk about Hunter Dickinson's shot at the
end of the half. He's now five

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for six on threes this year,
where he made the three and then immediately

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flopped the forearm right in front of
the crotch as if to say, Hi,

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I know that we're the number one
team and we're all down three possessions,

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but look how big of my is
and I thought it was awesome.

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I love having that Christian Brown energy. I don't care what the score is.

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I'm still gonna get in your head. That's what Hunter Dickinson does.

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He is a villain. I don't
care if Bill self says he's not.

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And it's fun to have a villain
on your team. You guys agree,

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I think it is fun because you
know that the other teams can't stand that

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guy, and this guy can a
million percent back it up, probably even

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more than Brown can. And Brown
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is another level I think. And
yeah, I think. I think he

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earns his his bleep talk. I
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then he gets in the front of
the camera and says we're the all time

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wins leader after the game. I
love that stuff like that. Yeah,

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he knows what he's doing. He's
a very smart guy. He knows exactly

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what he's doing, and he is
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person would hate if he's not on
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your team, you think he is
the best. Awesome, awesome, awesome

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performance by Hunter Dickinson on the biggest
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the season. Okay, let's talk
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really this changed when you guys came
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I dreaded Champions Classic week every year
because they would always do something preposterous and

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lose. Kansas started one and four
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There are seven and one since seven
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games. Put those together, that
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is the best among any teams,
tied with the Blue Devils. They've also

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been behind at the five minutes remaining
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So all these games are coin flips. That's the Kentucky game from twenty

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eighteen or twenty seventeen. I think
the Kentucky game from twenty twenty, and

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the Kentucky game from twenty twenty three
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These are all fifty to fifty games, and Bill self just manages to find

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a way to win all of them. That seems to be a staple in

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what they do. Uh. They
they've turned around in a hurry and the

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Champions Classic and and this this is
the best This and the Wigans Duke game,

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I think are my two favorite Champions
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both really good ones. The Frank
Mason Duke game is also right, it

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was a great one. Yeah,
I forgot about that game. Yeah,

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and that's a game that that Duke
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uh and so people were like it
doesn't count, And now people are like,

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it doesn't count because Kentucky didn't have
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guys. That Frank Mason Duke game
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lost a weird one their first game, and they would have started zero to

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two had they lost that, which
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team would have been just fine,
but that would have been really weird,

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so that it was a good momentum
builder, I think. Yeah, and

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that team only lost five games,
all lost to Illinois Indiana and yeah,

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yeah, Josh Jackson was really rough
in that game. And who is the

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I want to say James Bradbury,
but that's the corner for the Eagles in

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the Super was it James Blackman?
Is he the guy who just went bananas

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out there in Hawaii and Kansas,
Is that right? And remember those military

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colored uniforms honor and courage. I
think we're on the back so that do

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you remember that? Yep? Yeah? Were't they supposed to play in a

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airship or a carrier and they had
to move it inside. Yeah that happens

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most of the time. They're supposed
to play in one of those because it

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gets too humid or whatever. Yeah, let's play a basketball game on a

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humid and slippery surface in the they
a ship, just so we can get

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an angle of it on TV.
So Michigan State and North Carolina did that

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in the twenty eleven opener and it
was just an amazing site. It was

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on Veterans Day. Obama was there
obviously the present at the time. It

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was just an amazing site. And
they've tried to replicate that like every other

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year since with random games and then
no one works. Yeah, it hasn't.

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That was a one time thing.
I think. Okay, something that's

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not a one time thing is the
one Harris being good at bat basketball Land

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and tell me about boy, the
arc for you on this show going from

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maybe wanting to one aris to never
play three years ago to now being like,

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this guy's the best point guard in
the United States. Yeah, he

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easily is. Twenty three points seven
of twelve shooting, including five of six

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from three. Mind you, the
only miss was an end of the shot

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clock guarded heave because the offense just
had a bad possession. In general,

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it was Jamari mcdallas fault. Yeah, that threw him the ball back.

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He was five for five really yeah, inflow of offense actual takes five of

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five, added seven assists to that
in thirty eight minutes. Hair scored eight

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straight for Kansas after the final TV
timeout, including two from deep that tied

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them at eighty three. He is
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I mean obviously again, I mean
he's not going to score at the rate

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of a Frank Mason or Advante.
Graham or anything like that. But I

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think skill for skill, impact for
impact, he's right there, I think

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with guys like that as far as
what he does for this team. Yeah,

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and he's also like, infinitely better
than Marcus Garrett ever was in the

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Kansas uniform. And no one should
ever compare these two players because they're not

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not even close. It's not even
close. So Harris, they're down six,

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right, after the final TV timeout
and Harris launched a three, and

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if he misses that in Kentucky gets
the ball back. It's probably Curtains at

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that point for Kansas, but that
goes in, Kentucky gets the gets a

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bucket back. So Kansas now down
five. Another Harris three. He makes

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that one, and it's like,
oh, wow, he's keeping them or

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maybe the three second three tied.
There's two free throws in there. I

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don't know. Harris made two free
throws out of three that took him from

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down five to tie, and I
don't know which one came first, but

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all of them were like, Wow, he is single handedly at this point

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keeping them in the game. Nick
Dwan Harris best point guard in the country,

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if not clearly one of them.
They keep leaving him open. He

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keeps making them pay. How much
of his performance? How much of his

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performance did you love on Tuesday Night? I loved all of it. And

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I think there's a stat I read. I can't recall exactly what. I

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think it was like sixteen and one
ku is something around there. When to

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one Harris scores over ten points and
again, yeah, so him being a

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scorer this year. I talked about
it on our he's an intro. How

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important it was that one Harris gets
going offensively, and how badly they need

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him now, especially with Arterry Morris
the questions at the two guard spot,

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and he answered that call. I
think there was a comedy made on Instagram

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or something. I saw it floating
around that After the first game, someone

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criticized him only having one point and
he said, I'll shoot when I need

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to shoot, and he needed to
shoot and he made five or six threes.

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You know, I've been very critical
in the past of his ability to

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be a shot maker, but it
seems like this guy is just has been

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preparing the offseason. He's ready to
shoot when he's He's more confident too.

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For a while, there was like
he was wide open last year a few

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times he wouldn't shoot the ball.
This year, this game particularly, he

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was open, shot the ball,
wasn't afraid to pull up splash every time.

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His form looks a lot better too, in his jump shot, so

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that I mean teams are no longer
going to be able to let him have

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all the all the real estateing ones
at the top of the key, which

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I don't get it. They keep
doing it, and it doesn't make sense.

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He's a forty career three point shooter
on almost one hundred and fifty attempts.

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It doesn't make anything star just because
he does not immediately. He's not

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like a Grady Dick level. If
I have his space, I'm gonna shoot

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anything kind of guy like, he'll
think about it and that'll usually give the

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defense just enough time to adequately close
or at least make it a little more

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of an interesting jump. And he
doesn't have the quickest release either, which

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helps that. And he also has
a low release, lower release, and

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he's also just a not a super
tall player. All those kind of things

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contribute to they can kind of afford
to play off of him because everyone knows

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that, even though he can make
it, his instinct and his desire is

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not to pull the trigger most of
the time. But you think that's why

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that first make for him was really
important, because I think it gave him

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the confidence he's almost going out of
the game Wick, Yeah, exactly.

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At his first three point attempt of
the season. He saw that go down,

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and I think that gave him gave
him a nice little boost to try

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to take a lot more, which
became very very important. Hunter Dickinson said

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he's the best point guard in America, and Hunter Dickinson knows more than I

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do, so I'll roll with it. Dewan Harris Kansas is twenty six and

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one. By the way, Nick, to complete that stat when he scores

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at least ten points. Name the
loss it was last year? Wasn't it?

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It was? It was? It
was a very map it was a

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very consequential loss. Was it Arkansas? It was Arkansas? That's the point.

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Yeah, are you guys looking Are
you guys looking forward to de one

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Harris going forty and three in his
career when he scores at least ten and

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the losses are all NCAA tournament games. I was gonna say this year's big

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twelfth title and this year's Elite eight. Hey, yeah, I'm not so

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sure. Want Harris is a lock
for two more years. Tawan Harris is

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gonna play in the NBA at some
point, he is, he is a

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bit. I don't know. I
really don't know. I don't know this

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year, but Dewan Harris is gonna
be on an NBA roster at some point.

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He's Kevin mcca he's too small,
Kevin mccullar twelve points, ten rebounds,

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ten assists. That is a triple
double. First one we've ever talked

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about in the history of the show. It hasn't happened since twenty twelve.

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Third triple double in Kansas basketball history. That's dad has an asterisk because they

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didn't count it when Wilt was here. I know, but still officially just

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three have happened. Cole Aldridge,
Jeff Wiittye, and now Kevin McCuller.

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What's the difference between those two and
this one? This one had assists,

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not blocks as a third category.
He was just three for eleven from the

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floor in thirty seven minutes. But
when he and Harris cleaned up the turnovers

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in the second half, that is
when Kansas made its push through a half

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court assist to kJ Adams for an
alley oop whenever they were really making their

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big push to close. Dude had
tenn assists and he didn't even know it

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too. After the game, self
said he had a triple double, and

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he goes, wait, I had
a trip, bubble, got one rebound

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at the very very very last micro
second. Is what did it? Yeah?

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Kansas made its push behind the passing
of its two senior leaders There's a

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lot of things to like you out
of this team, but the fact that

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they're led by seniors is the big
one. Kevin mcculluor has. It's got

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to feel like he's been playing college
basketball to everybody else for ten years.

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But man, this guy's good and
he impacts the game in so many ways.

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He wasn't making shots, still made
such an impact. And he also

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only wears one leg sleeve. And
I have only seen really good NBA players

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where the one single legs leave,
so that explains why he's so good.

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Wow, as someone watching an NBA
game right now, Lebron James is indeed

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only wearing one. Most of the
players are wearing none or two. Uh

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huh, But Lebron only one,
and Marcus Garrett war two and look Landon,

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Yep, that's it. That steals
the deal. He would have taken

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one of them off. He would
have turned into Frame Mason from behind three

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point lines. All gotta do exactly. Yeah, mccullar s God, McCuller

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is so good, he's so smart. He was the third best player in

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this game and he had a triple
double. If that goes to show just

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how preposterous this game was for Kansas. McCuller and Dickinson are the first D

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one teammates in twenty plus years to
have a triple double and a twenty five

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and twenty game. Like, Kansas
got something real special out of those two

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in this game. And their point
guard also had twenty three and seven yep

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on basically five for five from three
and kJ Adams, who people are really

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sleeping on, played well too.
We'll talk about him in a minute too.

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Any takeaways from Kevin McCuller. He
made three baskets and still manage to

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have a triple freaking double. Yeah, and I don't even think he was

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I think those baskets were pretty big, and he shot some free throws.

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I think he went six of nine
from the line or something like that.

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Not like stellar, but knocked down
some big free throws. Nick, what

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are your takeaways from Kevin mccullar's triple
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Ryan said, he hit hit the
nil on the head. Not great shooting,

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which is I think is gonna be
fine. I think he's gonna be

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a great shooter this year, but
he did make up for that another way.

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And just love to see being a
team contributor these guys are not afraid

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to share the ball. Hunter Dickinson
made it a common in his postgame interview

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on ESPN that he has a lot
of unselfish guys around him. That's exactly

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who Kevin McCullin to want Harris are. So when you have a team of

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guys willing to give up the ball
for the best option, the best shot,

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you know that the ball is not
gonna stick and the offense opens up

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a little bit, which is what
we saw down the stretch from k You

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had that huge run. So a
great game from Kevin McCuller. Excited to

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see how he improves the shooting this
year. Wasn't there tonight, but still

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great. I'm not sure there have
been two more KU players, two more

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bill selfie players than McCuller and Dickinson. I don't know if they exist.

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Like this is a really good team. Yeah, maybe they're Maybe they're on

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this team. I told you guys
before we started recording, this Kansas team

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is the best roster they have had
since twenty eleven. This is a dynamite

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roster that I am stoked for in
as national championship or bust. I'm higher

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on this team than I've been on
any Kansas team in a very long time,

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including ones that have made final fours
and one championships. But I am

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not sure in my lifetime I have
seen a more Bill Selfie player than Kevin

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mccollor. What an amazing addition.
That was just the smartest highest IQ player

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that I've seen play here in a
long time. There's a reason he wins

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a lot. He won a lot
at Tech, he wins a lot here.

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It's not a coincidence that Kevin mccorrs
on all those teams that win.

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The fourth main player that we need
to talk about here is kJ Adams,

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who had one of the quietest sixteen
point games you're ever going to see,

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as it was Adams who shifted to
the post as Dickinson stayed up by the

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perimeter. That was one of Bill
Selves's big moves in this game, where

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they used Hunter Dickinson to draw some
traffic out from the basket and then just

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let kJ Adams pick and roll and
throw down lobs Kentucky to death. Adams

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finished eight for eleven from the floor, plus four rebounds and three assays before

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fouling out after twenty seven minutes.
We talk about the Big three and might

415
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honestly be the Big four. kJ
is one of the most quietly there,

416
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very effective for man. Bill self
said after the game that nobody was happier

417
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that Hunter Dickinson committed to Kansas than
kJ Adams because that allows him to play

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the four and get a ton of
matchup advantages. He has such an athleticism

419
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advantage on so many college fours that
he can just do what he did in

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this game against he was he was
excellent. Yeah, it was interesting to

421
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watch the kJ Adams I think is
a hugely important piece for this team for

422
00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.640
a couple of reasons. One he
is he is gonna be a little bit

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of a matchup nightmare I think for
a lot of teams because he is gonna

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have that like in the NFL for
the Chiefs Travis Kelcey often they talk about

425
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.279
him. He is slowing down a
little bit these days. He's still very

426
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good, of course, but in
his prime especially, he was too fast

427
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.160
for linebackers defending him, and he
was too big for corners. So if

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they put a corner on him,
you know, he would just be able

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to just throw him the ball.
He's gonna be able to get any linebackers

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he's gonna run by. I think
kJ Adams has a little bit of that

431
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in him. Like if you play
a guard on him, he's gonna be

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able to He's stronger than most guards
and he can jump with a lot of

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guards. But then the same thing's
true for true post players. Put a

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post play on him. He's pretty
fast, and he's actually decent off the

435
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:15.839
dribble, and obviously his incredible athleticism. He's for college centers. He's gonna

436
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:18.920
be able to be more athletic than
a lot of college centers. So I

437
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think he's gonna present a lot of
matchup nightmares. Also as a guy who

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can actually put the ball in the
basket, something that last year's Kansas team,

439
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.039
which I don't know. This Kansas
team's depth is a question mark.

440
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:34.359
There's a lot of potential, but
you know, I want to see it

441
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against a real team. It definitely
did not show up in this game.

442
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But last year's Kansas team sometimes it
was literally only Jalen Wilson scoring the ball,

443
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and it was just like, can
anyone, anyone give him support?

444
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:52.839
And that's why that Kansas team had
a relatively low ceiling because they didn't have

445
00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:59.079
that consistently, But this team has
genuinely like Kesey Adams is a guy that

446
00:29:59.119 --> 00:30:02.799
can easily average over ten to night, and obviously of Hunter Dickinson and Kevin

447
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:04.720
mcullor, who I don't think are
gonna have too much trouble scoring the ball.

448
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.039
And then you throw dew One Harrison
there, who can definitely score when

449
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.480
he has to as well. And
so I have a lot more confidence in

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this year's kind of top four guys
than I did in last year's top four

451
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guys, even though two of those
guys are the same guys. Three those

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00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:22.039
guys are the same guys. I
think that year's step is pretty big,

453
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and that kind of reminds me of
the twenty one twenty two team, where

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the twenty twenty twenty one team was
okay, and then all those same guys

455
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.000
just took a step four and developed
and you added a really important piece and

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00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:36.519
look what it got you. And
so I'm not calling this team to win

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the championship, but I do think
they share some similarities. And Landon,

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you talked about Travis Kelce, who
you know, I don't know he's not

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00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:48.200
feeling twenty two, but I mean
he should shake it off right. Yeah.

460
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I try to think of another song
title. The only thing I could

461
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think of was the word red,
which you'd think he plays for the Chiefs.

462
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I think I'd be able to say
that somehow, but so easy.

463
00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:00.920
Hey that now, whenever kJ Adams
starts dating k Perry in a few years,

464
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then we'll know, Wow, they
really are Travis Kelsey two point oh,

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Nick, any thoughts on kJ Adams. I can't believe how far this

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00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:14.480
guy's coming. I don't think we
ever we compared with Jamari Trailer as a

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00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.200
freshman. I onlyk we ever thought
he'd be a consistent scorer. But that's

468
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:19.440
exactly what he is. He's a
pivotal piece on the number one team.

469
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.119
Yeah, he's He's such a monster, so versatile. Like Lennon said,

470
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:27.000
in his size that's played an advantage
being a little bit quicker, and it

471
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.920
just has athleticism shows, you know, with all these dunks. Just a

472
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.359
great, great all around player.
And I'm glad kay you has him as

473
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a piece in the starting five.
Didn't love the three. I don't think

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00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.839
Bill self did either. Bill did
that thing where he stretched both of his

475
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.599
hands up in the air and just
kind of looked exasperated after they weren't really

476
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.440
choosing great shots at the time anyway, and then kJ launched a three it

477
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.680
did not go in the basket.
Speaking of threes that did go in the

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basket, Kentucky, good lord,
what do we think about Kentucky and what

479
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do we think about John Calipari?
Because I'll give you my thoughts first.

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00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:04.960
Kentucky's a damn good team this year. Boy, I didn't think this team

481
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.079
could shoot that well. And this
is one game they made twelve threes though

482
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.759
that I mean, you take out
Antonio Reeves and they made fifty percent of

483
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.920
their threes. Dillingham made made four
in a row in like less than three

484
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:17.720
minutes in a stretch, and you
knew reed Sheperd was gonna make a bunch.

485
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.319
Kentucky looks like a team that's gonna
be there in April. I don't

486
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.119
know if they'll get there, because
we all know that they can do some

487
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:30.000
goofy stuff in the tournament. They're
gonna lose some weird as he's looking Peters,

488
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.000
yeah, exactly, But they look
like a team. They're this good

489
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:36.480
this early. Wow, are they
gonna be good later? And they did

490
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:39.240
this with I mean I've seen mock
drafts that had Justin Edwards Pegg as the

491
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:43.319
number one player in the in the
draft, and DJ Wagner is a top

492
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.960
ten freshman too. They went one
for eighteen together and Kentucky still put up

493
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.240
eighty four on the number one team
that's thought to have a very very elite

494
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:53.119
defense. That's that's that tells you
a lot. But John Caliperi got out

495
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:57.400
coached down the stretch here. He
didn't play the guys that got them to

496
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.880
that point in the game. He
didn't play the guys that got them to

497
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.680
that lead. Dillingham said on the
bench way too much. I know he

498
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:06.039
had he was in foul trouble,
but that just should never have. He

499
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.400
never should have been out as long
as he was in the second half.

500
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:10.319
They were up six in the closing
minutes, and I don't know what the

501
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:15.319
hell that last play was because that
was just awful. John Klipari is two

502
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:17.680
and six against Bill self in his
last eight games. Spanning the last ten

503
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.079
seasons. They haven't made the Final
four since twenty fifteen. Is this a

504
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:25.960
make or break year for cal UMake
or break might be a little strong,

505
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:31.640
but he definitely has to get things
going back into title contention, They're way

506
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:37.839
better than the seventeenth best team in
the country, way better, Nick,

507
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.559
what do you think about Kentucky?
I think I think they're great, And

508
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:45.319
what's scary for them is that they
didn't even have three of their seven foot

509
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.880
or taller players, which, like, like you've alluded to already, the

510
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.400
three point shooting would have been decreased
if he had three big men in there.

511
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.400
But this Kentucky team, I mean, considering where they were in May

512
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:59.599
after losing out on Hunter Dickinson,
that team the roster was pretty much in

513
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:02.480
shamble at that point with John Calipari
kind of like what Bill Soft did in

514
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.720
this offseason put together the pieces to
make a team that has a chance of

515
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:12.000
winning the title in April. So
I think it's a very good Kentucky team.

516
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.719
I think they will be in the
top ten soon when they get those

517
00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:15.920
guys back, and I think they're
gonna run the table in a really bad

518
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:21.559
sec Yeah. And the thing with
Kentucky that impressed me the most they didn't

519
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.639
turn the ball over against the really
good defense they were playing really fast like,

520
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.719
and they didn't turn it over despite
being real young. They do that,

521
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:30.400
and they're gonna be They're gonna give
a lot of people a lot of

522
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:35.159
problems. Speaking of problems, let's
talk about the two spot for the Jayhawks.

523
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.679
Al Marco Jackson had seven points and
twenty four minutes on one for four

524
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.239
from the floor. He launched a
three inside the final four minutes that wasn't

525
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.400
even close and wound up getting him
benched because Bill self was caught saying I

526
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.119
can't trust him on the sideline.
I think my main takeaway at this point

527
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.719
with Jackson as I've yet to see
him score a basket that wasn't directly set

528
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.719
up by somebody else. Every single
one of his buckets this year has been

529
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.719
Harris or McCuller finding him in transition. And he's still making more than he's

530
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:02.239
missing, but still he hasn't shown
a whole lot. Nick Timberlake and Johnny

531
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:06.639
Furfey combined to go zero for six
from the floor with five fouls and no

532
00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:09.480
points in twenty five minutes. They
were both awful. It was actually Jamari

533
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:14.400
McDowell who was thrown into the Lions
then with four minutes left after not playing

534
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.840
all night, that completely stabilized the
position. He closed the night out by

535
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:22.400
playing mistake free basketball. He grabbed
the game ceiling rebound on the Kentucky would

536
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:28.880
be game tying three, and McDowell
hit two, not even hit the rim

537
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:34.599
game ceiling free throws in the final
seconds. Ball are there? He needs

538
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:38.239
to play more. But give me
a summary on your thoughts on the two

539
00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:43.440
position right now? Who should play? What are your thoughts? Nick?

540
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:47.320
Go for it? Uh yeah,
I think at this point, uh clear

541
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:51.480
this this Nick isn't doing the job. I think I should be the two

542
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.599
guard for ku oh okay, need
a different Nicholas in there. Just kidding,

543
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:58.960
I do think with Nick Timberlake,
you gotta have a little bit of

544
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.400
a longer leash. He's this is
a guy transitioning from playing basketball against you

545
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:07.480
know right, we don't want it's
it's way too early to sell Nick Timberlake

546
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:15.239
bye bye bye. Yeah yeah exactly, yeah yeah, I hate that joke.

547
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:21.480
But but uh yeah, I think
Nick Timberlake is is gonna be good.

548
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:22.119
I think it's gonna take a little
bit of time. He played a

549
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.639
thousand before this. This is the
thousand toughest game of the season. When

550
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:30.000
they came and paid played a by
game at all infield house. So I

551
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.119
think that just the step up,
you know, the the anxiety about playing

552
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.079
in a bigger stage, I think
that's gonna wear off. I think this

553
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:37.960
shot is gonna get comfortable. But
right now, it just seems like he's

554
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:42.039
kind of a no man's land when
he's in the game, just kind of

555
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:46.360
a just not there, not present
on you know. Defensively, it seems

556
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:51.239
that like at times this lapses,
and even offensively just kind of seemed like

557
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:53.920
some dead space in the Kentucky game. So I'm interested to see how Bill

558
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.960
Seff tries to get him integrated,
you know, running plays for him.

559
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.239
Specifically, Bill self has been so
good in the past with running plays for

560
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:06.039
wings who need that confidence, need
the ball to go down in the hoop.

561
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.920
So I'm not concerned about Bill self
getting him going scoring the ball wise,

562
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:15.280
I am concerned though, like we've
alluded to already, the athleticism doesn't

563
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.280
always seem like it's there. You
know, the guy who did seem to

564
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.079
come in and plug the holes.
We'll talk about him in a second,

565
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.239
but Jamari McDowell just seemed to have
a little bit more athleticism, a defensive

566
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:27.320
pepinist step than Nick Timberlake did,
And I think part of my concern with

567
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.159
that is that defense is less.
Defense is coachable, but it's more like

568
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:36.159
ingrained in a player at this point. A guy in Nick Taberlink's like position

569
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.679
in his career, it's more ingrained
in him to be a better defensive player

570
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:43.320
should be at least by this point. But I think that that's got to

571
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.280
improve for sure. What about you, Landon, Do you think that Nick

572
00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:49.960
Timberlake's gonna be looking at Bill self
saying this, I promise you it's gonna

573
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:53.639
be me. Well, Nick is
right, he doesn't need to be more

574
00:37:53.679 --> 00:38:00.000
in sync on defense. Oh I
like it. Only yes, yeah,

575
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:06.119
only shot. I was trying to
think of a social network reference as well

576
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:09.400
that we'll see if we get there. Yeah, I don't know. He

577
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:14.519
looked really bad. But then this
is also kind of like when you have,

578
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:19.679
you know, either small school or
young shooters like this is this is

579
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:21.960
kind of what you sign up for
a little bit is every once in a

580
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.320
while they're gonna go cold. At
the same time, you hope it doesn't

581
00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:28.119
happen very often, but you kind
of know it's going to. And that

582
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:31.159
is kind of what happened. I
don't know, is it, you know,

583
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.519
partly I think we have a different
a different take if if Furfey you

584
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:37.760
know, or Timberla for that matter, if they knock down, you know,

585
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:43.480
a three or two. I don't
think we are sitting here saying like

586
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:46.519
the two guard was a disaster.
I'm not sure why Jamar McDowell didn't play

587
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:51.159
like at all. I know l
Marco Jackson was not really that bad.

588
00:38:51.719 --> 00:38:53.519
I agree, though he does not
seem to be able to get his own

589
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:59.000
shot at all yet. That may
come with time. But McDowell was really

590
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.320
good at the very end. I
think he played the spot very competently,

591
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:05.639
did what he had to do,
defended well. It was smart enough on

592
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.400
offense for the most part. Yeah. Timberlake, I don't know. He's

593
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:14.880
looked very out of sync in the
last He didn't look great against Manhattan and

594
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:20.840
then looked really bad mostly against Kentucky
and then Furfey. He was at least

595
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.039
out there for a stretch where the
Jayhawks played well and made up ground against

596
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:28.480
the Wildcats in the second half.
He didn't do anything really particularly in that

597
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.400
stretch, but he was out there
at least. Yeah, I don't know.

598
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.519
It's it's gonna be really interesting.
I think Jackson is still the guy

599
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:37.000
you have to go with, but
I think McDowell should get more run next

600
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:39.960
time. I mean, you can't. You can't really afford to have someone

601
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:47.199
around Timberlake have a slip. Oh
hey, I see, look at you,

602
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:51.079
sir. Everybody's getting on this.
I'man I making. We have to

603
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.119
do our offering. You have to
make one justin Timberlake joke. Every time

604
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:57.960
we talk about every time Nick misses
a three. So do your study and

605
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.519
on justin Timberlake song. It's all
I got is Jackson will be fine.

606
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:05.559
He's still getting his feet wet,
he's getting acclimated. He was the right

607
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.880
call for most of the night.
He's the most athletic of these guys.

608
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.800
McDowell. Yes, mcdowello's great,
like and I understand that that it was

609
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.559
a really small sample size, and
ultimately, you know, it's not as

610
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:16.719
much as what he did as much
as what he didn't. He didn't turn

611
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:19.920
it over, he didn't lose anything
out of bounce, and he didn't take

612
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.519
any bad shots. But that's what
they needed. That's what we've talked about

613
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.119
what they need in this game.
Timberlake. It's gonna take him some time

614
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:28.960
to get acclimated to this. He's
gonna have several games where he shoots the

615
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.679
ball. Well, that's what he's
here to do. He's here to come

616
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.440
off the bench and make threes.
If he does that, no one's gonna

617
00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:37.920
care about the rest of it.
And the furfy's just not there at this

618
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.079
point. He's better than we thought
he would be, but he's not at

619
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:44.599
the point of being consistent enough yet
to really consider him for the big minutes.

620
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:50.280
The bench had four points in this
game. Parker Brown's running alley oop

621
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.920
that was set up by a point
guard that came with eight minutes left,

622
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.119
and then Jamari McDowell's two free throws. Those are the only four bench points

623
00:40:57.119 --> 00:41:00.840
all night for Kansas. They were
just blown away, and total bench points

624
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.280
the final total thirty one to four
in favor of Kentucky. So yeah,

625
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.199
if there's a weakness, it's that
because Parker Brown his stats at this point

626
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:10.400
two points, tore rebounds, eight
minutes, Kansas was much worse when he

627
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:15.679
was out there. He's not Hunter
Dickinson, Prince Sayer, I never ever

628
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.480
need to see the Dickinson and Brown
line up together again. Either, don't

629
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:21.840
need that, don't really need a
lot of Parker Brown, if we're being

630
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.199
honest, just whenever Hunter Dickenson's gassed, because that was a highly mitch lightfooty

631
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:30.480
yes performance from Brown. What was
the lie if they put in nearer the

632
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:34.559
end of the game that I just
said that I hated when it went really

633
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:39.199
bad, mccullor was out, Dickinson
was out. Yeah, it was Timberlake,

634
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:45.559
Brown and Jackson, and it was
just like, oh okay, it's

635
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.840
Harrison, it's the Will Smith looking
around and no one else is there.

636
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.199
That was Thewan Harris in that in
that shot. But you know who was

637
00:41:52.239 --> 00:42:00.920
there most of the night was Reed
Shepherd. He made three threes and three

638
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:06.559
attempts to then he airballed the last
shot. Can believe that that doesn't although

639
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:09.079
a couple of those makes were just
stupid. Yeah, one was from about

640
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:13.840
four feet behind the free throw line. He basically was elbow to elbow with

641
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:15.960
Bill self whenever he shot it in
the first half. Yeah, Yeah,

642
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:20.199
the two, the two will be
just fine. They need Timberlake to make

643
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.800
shots off the bench and Marco Jackson
will improve. That's what they need.

644
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:28.119
If Jackson is a complete dud.
They may have some problems there. But

645
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:32.800
Ifson and Timberlake are both not good, like actively not good in Big twelve

646
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.880
play, then then I think you're
you're you're relying on two freshmen who have

647
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:42.800
shown like competency but no real flash. It's certainly not against the one good

648
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:45.880
team they played, then I'd be
more concerned. But also again I think

649
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.679
I think your big four is is
you know, has a case to be

650
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.519
like the best top four players in
America on any team. So I think

651
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:55.599
you do have a little more room
to play there. But yeah, it's

652
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.880
a there's a there's a real question
at the two guard. Yeah, and

653
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:01.960
will be for a little while,
but hopefully, I mean they don't need

654
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.840
to have the answer now, they
need to have it before, you know,

655
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:07.559
middle of Big twelve play. We'll
see if they get there. Final

656
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.960
numbers k forty eight percent from the
floor, thirty three percent from three.

657
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.360
They were plus three on the glass
and a good seventy five percent of the

658
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.079
free throw line. kJ Adams was
zero for three, so you take him

659
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.920
out of the equation and they were
up and over eighty. Digginson's a great

660
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:22.199
free throw shooter. Wow, does
that make a difference. They have a

661
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.320
big that can make free throws.
Really haven't had one since deedrig Lawson was

662
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:29.599
there. Jeff WHITTI was also a
really good free throw shooter. The difference

663
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.719
it makes whenever the guy that gets
fouled the most is also really good at

664
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:37.280
free throws. Super super nice to
have. But yeah, at this point,

665
00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.280
Kansas is the number one team.
They showed it, They've earned it.

666
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.400
They beat a team that looks like
they're only going to get better from

667
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.280
between now and the end of the
year, and that was just a whole

668
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.639
lot of fun. They have three
of the best fifteen, maybe more than

669
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.679
that players in the country, and
that was college basketball at its best.

670
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:59.079
Despite the refs. I posted on
Twitter that there are ten minutes left in

671
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.320
the game, which means that this
is gonna take thirty eight real time minutes,

672
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:04.800
and I went back in I looked
at the time of that tweet and

673
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:09.440
the time I posted the final score
tweet thirty seven minutes apart. People can

674
00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:15.159
really tee up how many freaking minutes
those refs are gonna milk with the monitor

675
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.320
time in the fouls. Any final
thoughts on this game? My thoughts Bill

676
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:23.239
self good, Kansas good. Yeah, those are about my thoughts. I

677
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:29.280
think Kansas is set up for a
lot of success. I just don't know

678
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:34.400
how teams are quite going to be
able to match the barrage of talent that

679
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.800
they have at the top of the
roster. Maybe it's because Kansas doesn't have

680
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:39.360
quite the barrage of talent at the
bottom of it. But I think that

681
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:44.639
is definitely more of a TBD thing
than anything set in stone. So yeah,

682
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.000
Jayhawks, really impressive performance, very
resilient one. Nick, What about

683
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:51.840
you? Yeah, I was also
really impressed with this performance. And I

684
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:53.679
know we came into this game expecting
them to win by a little bit more.

685
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:57.400
I think a lot of us were
confident, but just the way they

686
00:44:57.480 --> 00:45:02.039
responded in the second half was really
impressive. Usually KU teams don't do a

687
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:07.119
good job when another team barrages them
from threes. Uh, I thinking of

688
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:15.199
the a certain Northern Northern Illinois Northern
Iowa team. But on it that was

689
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:20.000
about when Justin Timberlake was popular back
in when when they lost that game,

690
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:25.559
Tally for Ali was actually a backup
dancer for Justin Timberlake. But outside of

691
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:30.119
that, just a great game for
KU. Good start. Yeah, and

692
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.360
KU's got to guard the three better
like that's a thing Like in this game

693
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:36.360
normally the people in the mentions are
like, whoa, the threes are wide

694
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.480
open, Like they didn't make enough
adjustments to guard the three point line.

695
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.719
They look slow closing out. It's
gonna happen with a young or with a

696
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.159
team that's young in terms if they
haven't played a lot of games together.

697
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.760
I expect that to get better because
the recipe to be Kansas, well it

698
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.559
darn sure isn't. Let's go challenge
Hunter Dickinson all night. Teams are gonna

699
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:59.840
shoot threes against them. They need
to be better at guarding it. Other

700
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:02.840
games, well, there's not a
whole lot In terms of Big Twelve games.

701
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.000
The Big Twelve has gone thirteen and
oh since we lasted a podcast on

702
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:12.840
Saturday Night, including Nick winning you
a couple of dollars, literally a couple

703
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:15.840
of dollars Texas beat Rice tonight,
congrats, go spend your winnings on a

704
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:22.599
McDonald's coke. That was so that
was so stupid. I didn't realize,

705
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.519
so Ryan, I don't gamble anymore. But Ryan sent me that ESPN bets

706
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.519
was giving out like two hundred dollars
in free beats, like four five fifty

707
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.280
dollars free bets. And I was
stupid and thought, oh, I'll do

708
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:40.159
I'll bet can I'll bet Texas minus
four thousand against Rice because I'll get fifty

709
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:45.320
two dollars and fifty cents and I
can withdraw that money. And I completely

710
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.559
forgot that the principal fifty dollars they
do you don't. They don't give it

711
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.519
back, You don't get your bet, just get whatever you win. So

712
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.039
I turned fifty dollars fifty cents that
you didn't have before, sir, And

713
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.719
it didn't cost you anything to get
there. How about that smart gambling only

714
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.400
by one half of one chocolate shake
at McDonald's. Yeah, that there,

715
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:08.360
You just just asked for that.
Hey, Hey, in twenty thirteen,

716
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:15.920
before a couple presidents ago. Is
very true. Only Kansas's win came against

717
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.599
anybody with a pulse. The other
twelve Big twelve wounds were crapped. Oklahoma

718
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.880
State got its first win of the
season. They beat sam Houston State and

719
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.199
Land. In this one's for you, Texas Tech beat San Jose State and

720
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:31.800
a game that featured a total of
ninety eight points how about that gosh yeah,

721
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:35.960
fifty two, like fifty six to
forty two, I think was the

722
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:40.239
final score of that game. In
honor of that game Ku in Texas Town.

723
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:45.239
The fourth quarter too. I think
if the teams combined for less than

724
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.719
one hundred, everyone in the stadium
gets their money back, that feels fair

725
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:53.000
because they watched some traumatic stuff in
order to get through that two hours or

726
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:57.559
if the refs are the refts two
hours and forty five minutes. Since I

727
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.199
took that joyous paragraph, land and
I believe that sets you. You have

728
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:05.360
to lead off with other games.
Let's see what got here. A big

729
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:08.199
winner this week was number four Marquette, who went into Champagne and beat number

730
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:12.079
twenty three Illinois. It can be
Kansas. It was an exhibition, but

731
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.840
still that game seventy one sixty four
in favor of the Golden Eagles behind twenty

732
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:21.719
four points from Tyler Koleik. The
Golden Eagles dominated in the paint, holding

733
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.519
a forty four to twenty advantage Inner
Maui with as good as a chance of

734
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:30.199
anybody to cut down the nets out
west, that's that's gonna be a fun

735
00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:35.159
game. The very likely semi final
with the Jayhawks. Yeah, I gotta

736
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:39.239
get past UCLA first, but yeah, Kansas will likely their path if it's

737
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:45.480
Chuck, their path to Maui Championship
will be Shamanad, number four Marquette and

738
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:51.440
number two Perdue. And if they
lose to Marquette, they're probably getting like

739
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:54.559
number seven Tennessee in the loser's bracket. There's going to be top ten teams

740
00:48:54.559 --> 00:49:00.719
that lose multiple games in Maui this
week. Yeah. In the other champions

741
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.960
Classic game, number nine Duke top
number eighteen Michigan State seventy four to sixty

742
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:08.000
five to bounce back from their loss
to Arizona. Caleb Foster led the Blue

743
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:12.320
Levels with eighteen points off the bench. The Spartans, meanwhile, are already

744
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:16.320
one and two with the Thanksgiving Day
showdown against number three Arizona looming next week.

745
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.159
Is Michigan State bad? First of
all? Why is? What is?

746
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:22.800
Do you guys think Michigan State should
not be in this event anymore?

747
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:27.480
Do you think they should be replaced
with like Yukon or Villanova or I was

748
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:32.800
thinking about that as they were losing
the Duke. I don't know there because

749
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.760
they're there because they wrapped the Big
ten. You get a school from each

750
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:43.079
of the four major basketball leagues.
That's why Champions Classic. The last time

751
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:46.159
they won a title, Landon and
I were just barely conceived at that point.

752
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:51.559
In fairness to Michigan State when this
event started, Yukon had three Fever

753
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:57.800
titles and what's their face Villanova had
two Fever titles. So but now at

754
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.480
this point, yeah, it's not
really looking like they're one of the four

755
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:06.000
true Champions Classic teams. I think
Michigan State is americanuation. You know,

756
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.599
since the Clinton the inflation has gone
up, since the Clinton administration, Michigan

757
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:14.519
State titles has not. Oh,
look at that business, mister Whitebert over

758
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:19.039
here talking about I'd like that we
could sneak in a couple of economic lessons

759
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:23.199
in the middle of every podcast.
The amount of serious romantic relationships I've had

760
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.760
is the same, though it's a
flat line. Stonks are not up or

761
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:30.719
down in that case. As for
Michigan State, to answer your question,

762
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.760
Nick, I think they're really talented. But this is what they do.

763
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:39.159
Every year. They start slow,
they win a few games that turn people's

764
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:44.800
heads. In January, they enter
as a sixth seed, They take down

765
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:50.639
some over seeded three seed as John
Roth's theme, I almost said something I

766
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:54.920
can't say on the air, gets
real excited and tweet January February hizzo,

767
00:50:55.639 --> 00:51:00.280
and then they fizzle out in the
next round and never really amount to anything.

768
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:01.800
That kind of feels like that's Michigan
State one oh one. They'll probably

769
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:06.599
lose nine er ten. He's not
wrong about January February Izzoh, it just

770
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:09.440
it should be Marches though, and
it's not. Yeah, yeah, it's

771
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:14.440
definitely not. They they haven't made
a final four since when it was twenty

772
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:17.320
fifteen. No, they've wait at
the year that that Tech made the finals,

773
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:21.000
right because Mahomes was there, because
they should they should have won it

774
00:51:21.039 --> 00:51:22.840
and they didn't. Yeah, so
they've made they make a final four of

775
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.800
a few years. But yeah,
that I thought they'd be better. Their

776
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:29.440
roster is much better than this.
If they lose to Arizona, they're probably

777
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:31.000
out of the top twenty five four
weeks into the season. Hard to do

778
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:35.320
when you start in the top five. Oh, it's my turn, isn't

779
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:38.360
it's trying to read number two.
Perdue took down Xavier at home by twelve.

780
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:43.159
I'm just putting every Perdue boring score
in here every week because I like

781
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:46.039
finding out how Zach Edy did.
Twenty eight and eleven was his line.

782
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:52.800
There is perdue Kansas. The matchup
you want in the Mali finals, Yeah,

783
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.840
I really do. I think we
all one hundred Dickinson versus Zach eaty

784
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:59.559
Man. Yeah, there will be
points. There will be points to be

785
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:04.840
had in that game if that matchup
occurs. Two top twenty five teams took

786
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:09.960
shocking losses as sixteen point favorites Gonzaga's
biggest competition in the WCC. In number

787
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:14.199
twenty three Saint Mary's, I say
Gonzaga did not lose to Heat. I

788
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.519
thought the pause was because you saw
Gonzaga and figured I was gonna put something

789
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:20.000
really nasty in the notes, trying
to bait you into reading it. So

790
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:25.039
either way, kudos of Saint Mary's
did lose to the fighting Dame Dalla's Weaver

791
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:30.079
State and Andy Enfield's hot wife says
Ryan, He's not wrong. Attractive woman

792
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:35.840
couldn't save number sixteen. UIs see
in a seventy to sixty home loss to

793
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.159
the ant eaters of uc Irvine.
So that lost for k State to the

794
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:45.000
Trojans looks pretty bad after or eaten. They get eaten by some ant eaters.

795
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.559
There you go, eaten by the
ants or the ants eaters. Yeah

796
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:52.360
whatever, Yeah, I just alad
for me man. I don't know what

797
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:57.480
next riding, and I don't know
if it's over, but it's gonna roll,

798
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.320
just gonna roll with it. And
it looks yes, one hundred.

799
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:07.719
Sure he's obviously talking about Saint Mary's
being just an awful number two for Gonzaga.

800
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:12.800
Uh yeah, okay, go ahead, we're actually I actually just made

801
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:15.719
a joke about Villanova making threes against
Kansas, which doesn't count anymore because those

802
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:20.159
games never existed. For the second
year in a row, Number twenty one,

803
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:23.239
Villanova took an upset loss in the
Big Five Classic, this time losing

804
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:30.679
two pins. Called it the Wildcats
were guilty of our favorite stat on the

805
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:35.480
show. They had more fouls twenty
three than baskets twenty two. It was

806
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:38.239
the most absurd college basketball thing like
this just does not happen in the NBA.

807
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:43.000
Like no, NBA makes so many
baskets and plays far too clean of

808
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.559
basketball to let anything like that happen. Avere all of these quality games,

809
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:52.559
and we had number eleven in Zaga
playing d two Eastern Oregon and they beat

810
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.679
them by a KU over Shamanad like
score one twenty three to fifty seven.

811
00:53:57.920 --> 00:54:01.559
Ku took cocaine before tip. K
you did score one hundred and twenty three

812
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:07.639
against Shamanad a few years back in
the in the twenty fifteen game, I

813
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:12.920
think, yeah, that game,
that was fun. Oh is it my

814
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:15.280
turn out? No, it's not
my turn it sure is, it's yours.

815
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:19.400
Yeah, no, it's oh wow, Well I get the shortest one.

816
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.280
No, great show, great show. This is this is such quality

817
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:27.880
quality stuff. Same for Louisville who
actually won, they won a game.

818
00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:32.320
They're not quality, but they did
win popp And State the Cardinal take down

819
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:37.880
Coppin State by twenty and they have
a winning record after one game on the

820
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.800
schedule. They're halfway. They're halfway
to their win total from a season ago,

821
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.280
and we're not even eating Thanksgiving turkey
yet. Yay, Kenny Payne,

822
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:52.760
You're doing a better job checking in
on some former Jayhawks and how they've done

823
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:57.000
through the two weeks of the season. Cam Martin has actually been the best

824
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.000
of any of the guys that transferred
out last year. Twelve point thirteen rebound

825
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.519
performance for Boise State against D two
Vanguard, not the investments company, but

826
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:08.719
a institution of higher education the other
night. That's the high watermark for any

827
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:12.920
of these guys. Yeah, the
rest of the list is real sad.

828
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.440
Like Bill self clearly knew what he
was doing. I think he would have

829
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:20.440
preferred to keep one of Edge of
Four and Ooda, but he was much

830
00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:22.480
much more okay with letting these guys
walk out the door than some of the

831
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:28.280
fans wanted you to know. Ernest
Ouday has one basket in three games.

832
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:32.400
He has seven thousand and one field
goal this year and three TC wins totally

833
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:37.320
forty two minutes, so he's playing
starter minutes. Kyle Kuffin Zubi Edge of

834
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.519
Four are both averaging about five per
game. Bobby Pattifer Joe YESAFU they're starting

835
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:45.679
for Washington State and he'st Carolina respectively. They're both getting about six points a

836
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.039
game. Nothing real spectacular. And
then there's MJ. Rice who hasn't even

837
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.920
suited up for North Carolina State yet. He took a leave of absence from

838
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:54.000
the team over the summer and has
yet to suit up and play a game.

839
00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:59.800
So Kansas isn't missing much like Hunter
Dickinson. This is kind of like

840
00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:04.199
an fantasy football when somebody offers you
eight bench players for like a superstar.

841
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.599
Like Kansas traded all this stuff and
got a hundred Dickinson and they're there.

842
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:14.960
That is the much better side of
that coin I got. Yeah, it

843
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:16.199
is. It's it's a little bit
too bad to see guys like that.

844
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:19.599
I still would have liked drums to
do on the team, but it is

845
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:22.039
what it is. Ye also what
is what it is? Ranked teams lose

846
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:29.079
since the last show, number seventeen. The PayPal cows cals a goden self

847
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:32.400
is a dwarf, but not anymore. Actually, Kansas coach Bill Seth's stubborn

848
00:56:32.559 --> 00:56:37.719
ass. He's so stubborn at beating
Kentucky at this point. Yeah, that's

849
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.800
right. Here, you go,
get up for it. Step Bills to

850
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:49.719
number eighteen. Michigan State lost to
the Blue Devils number twenty one. Villanova

851
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:53.119
lost to Kansas in the twenty eight
no pen in twenty twenty three. That

852
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:58.360
looks like I put a number one
twenty three. It almost looks, oh,

853
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.960
I'm just okay, all right,
We're just I was gonna make a

854
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:02.880
two Villanova Joe, because you know, but if you want to, Okay,

855
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:06.920
I talked right through your oh Mary, and I will never talk through

856
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:10.280
oh ooh man, so do it
again. I don't know. This is

857
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:14.639
this is what happens when we do
the show exclusively over the internet. Now,

858
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:16.280
which is fine, it's fine.
It's a very easy way to do

859
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:20.159
the show. But uh, you
know, sometimes you just talk over each

860
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:27.679
other for twenty sometimes and sometimes Nick
makes funny jokes that don't make any sense.

861
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:32.920
But yeah, number twenty three,
Oh Mary, they lost to Waiver

862
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:37.679
State, which is about as bad
as Bruce Weber at k State. And

863
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:42.920
then number twenty three Illinois. They
didn't lose the Kansas in the exhibition game

864
00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:45.920
raising for money for Maui, but
they did lose the Marquette. Who k

865
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:49.960
you might play in Maui. Oh
wait, nope, not Maui in Honolulu.

866
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:52.960
Sorry. Yeah, boy, Imagine
listening to that if you were like

867
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:57.280
a little bit high or whatever,
how confusing all that? Or I mean,

868
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:00.199
imagine listening to that if you just
like opened a permanent mark her.

869
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:05.159
Imagine listening to this podcast if you're
a sober Yeah. I can't say that

870
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:07.119
I've ever done one of these sober
even though I believe Lambon's the only one

871
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:10.559
of us that ever has drank live
while doing a podcast. I've done it

872
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:15.880
several times. It's fun. It's
it's you should every time that you hear

873
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:20.880
the the famous ass drop, you
should chug a shot and see how plaster

874
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:27.519
you by ascarc I've done a couple
shots, and if I did that every

875
00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:30.639
time you hit that drop, I
would not be alive. Well, I

876
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:36.920
mean here just because I feel generous. Ass. Oh it's not playing over

877
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:37.519
and over. Here we go,
Here we go, Here we go.

878
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:43.920
Oh no, it's still not there
we go. Okay, this is manslaughter.

879
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:45.559
There you go go take a few
shots. Okay, now, speaking

880
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:52.440
of shots, hopefully they're better than
than Johnny Furfy's the other night. Ask

881
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:58.079
rock Chock blog. If you ever
have ascarcps, log on to Sir Elon

882
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:06.400
dot com slash act and right questions. Yes, it's like he's next kid.

883
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.159
It's kind of like in SpongeBob where
every five episodes Plankton would try to

884
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:14.480
take over bikini Bottom. That's kind
of Elon Musk like with Twitter and but

885
00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:17.599
there Plankton never wins, and Elon
Musk has a lot of money, so

886
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:22.880
he always wins at Cooper Reeves ten. If Jamari doesn't go in late to

887
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:27.719
guard Reeves, do you think that
Kansas loses the game? And conversely,

888
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.199
if he had played all game,
would he have been too tired late to

889
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:36.840
play? I think at this point
we're a little bit over analyzing Jamari McDowell,

890
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.280
who was really good, But it
also was a very small amount of

891
00:59:39.320 --> 00:59:45.679
minutes against a completely exhausted Kentucky team, and McDowell didn't do as much as

892
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:50.119
it was what he didn't do.
He didn't turn it over, he didn't

893
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:53.119
take bad shots, he didn't foul. Kudos to him, for sure,

894
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:59.039
but playing something tells me they got
the sweet spot amount of minutes from Jamary

895
00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:02.840
McDowell. Yeah, I think I
still would have liked to see a little

896
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:08.320
bit more of him, But yeah, I think extrapolating much more is very

897
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:12.239
difficult considering. Yeah, it's not
like he came in the game, knocked

898
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:15.199
down three threes and want it.
Yeah, he just played like competent defense

899
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:19.920
and didn't do anything egregious. Nick, here's one for you at Matt Underscore

900
01:00:19.960 --> 01:00:25.960
Gallon time. What is your favorite
breakfast food? Uh, probably pancakes.

901
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:30.559
Pancakes are well, they're so looking
for biscuits and gravy. But yeah,

902
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:37.559
that's like, that's also what what
is your favorite breakfast restaurant? I don't

903
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:39.760
go, uh, it's probably actually
First Watch. Like if I had to

904
01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:44.440
pick, there's a I don't know. You're so happy sixtieth birthday land.

905
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:50.760
First Watch is good. First Watch
is fine. It's it's it's fine.

906
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:57.679
I live right by one. I
pick up some hardly ever, but no,

907
01:00:57.800 --> 01:01:00.840
I I think I hops better than
First Watch. I hops better.

908
01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:07.119
Yeah, that's that's not true at
all. The answer is place. What

909
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.320
other place can you show up?
What other place can you be the only

910
01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:14.960
one that shows up sober at two
am? The pancakes. Hey, my

911
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:19.599
wife's first my wife's first waitressing job
was at I Hoop. And it is

912
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.320
true. They never closed that restaurant, like they are open twenty four hours

913
01:01:22.320 --> 01:01:25.559
a day at all times. They
never cleaned that restaurant. Correct, Yeah,

914
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:30.480
all the markers you want come to
Denny's. Angie was fifteen when she

915
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:34.119
first started working there, and they
did not care. They were like,

916
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:37.159
you, so you're on the overnight
shift and she's like, no, I

917
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:39.599
have high school tomorrow. What are
you talking about? And that job didn't

918
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:44.400
last very long because she's like,
I'm not gonna work these crazy hours,

919
01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:46.320
So she had to go work at
Culver's, which was totally above board all

920
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:51.519
the time. That's correct. Yeah, Culver's never open too late, always

921
01:01:51.639 --> 01:01:54.800
very organized, not like Landa,
And I could tell you some stories from

922
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:59.320
that. Also for Matt Gallentine,
why does the offense look so good one

923
01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:01.920
second and want so bad the next, Well, that's basketball for you.

924
01:02:01.960 --> 01:02:07.159
The other team's trying to play defense
and they have good plays. Yeah,

925
01:02:07.239 --> 01:02:12.039
Parker Brown happens. He just sits
on the bench and infects the entire offense

926
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:16.480
with bad. Also, just a
quick PSA for anyone playing basketball. If

927
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:21.639
you throw, if you're trying to
throw a pass to your big guy,

928
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:24.960
don't have that pass hit the rim. That's that's bad. That's not gonna

929
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:29.480
Actually is that Jackson that did that? I don't. It happened like three

930
01:02:29.559 --> 01:02:31.800
times? Yeah, I know it's
it's it's harder than it looks to throw

931
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.360
an entry pass. Uh, but
it is when the guy's seven too.

932
01:02:36.800 --> 01:02:40.559
It's like there were times in the
first half. I don't get super animated

933
01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:45.800
during these games anymore, but I
was like, actually, like sitting up

934
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:47.400
and twitching and kind of like moving
a little bit. Every time they didn't

935
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:51.079
throw Hunter the ball. It's like, I can't believe they're not passing the

936
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:53.320
ball to Hunter. It's all like
you're missing him. He's very tall,

937
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:55.920
He's the big guy in the middle
that's making everything he shoots. He scored

938
01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:59.960
twenty seven on twelve shots. That
guy, he needs to touch the ball

939
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.440
a lot. And then they put
Parker Brown in the game, and Bill's

940
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:06.039
like, hey, let's call some
loves for him. And I was losing

941
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:08.280
it, but you know, eventually, all's well, that ends well at

942
01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:14.400
Casey Sports kingdo one how many minutes
should starters play against shamanad Ads? I'd

943
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:16.239
give the reserves and La Marco a
lot of times. Yeah, I'd like

944
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:21.039
that, especially with two more games
coming. Hunter Dickinson's going to score twenty

945
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:27.519
and what like eighteen minutes against Shamanad. Don't need him getting tired. Yeah,

946
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:30.119
I think the reserve should play a
lot, try to build them some

947
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:35.079
confidence, build in some chemistry.
Let me look up what's happened in the

948
01:03:35.079 --> 01:03:38.599
past. So when Kansas played Shamanad
in twenty nineteen, they beat them by

949
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:45.440
thirty points and nobody on Kansas played
more than thirty one minutes, and that

950
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:51.480
was Devon Dotson, and then the
starting lineup Udoka az A Bouquet only played

951
01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:55.719
nineteen oah, I played twenty seven, so not a lot. When Kansas

952
01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:59.760
played Shamanad in twenty fifteen, the
game they scored one hundred and twenty three

953
01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:04.280
points in, the player that led
Kansas in minutes had twenty eight, and

954
01:04:04.280 --> 01:04:09.280
that was Devonte Graham. A lot
of low twenties, high teens. It's

955
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:13.000
probably what you're gonna see. You're
probably gonna see Dewan Harris play in the

956
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.719
mid twenties, Kevin mccullor two,
and I suspect this is gonna be a

957
01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:21.079
seventeen minutes for Parker Brown and fourteen
fifteen minutes for Johnny Furfey sort of game,

958
01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:24.599
which is, if we're being honest, what they should do. But

959
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:29.079
Kansas is going to win by twenty
five thirty points if they play the backups

960
01:04:29.079 --> 01:04:31.440
in this game, So no reason
not to at Olhart Casey, if you

961
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:35.400
could live in any fictional world,
where would you go? Example Harry Potter,

962
01:04:35.480 --> 01:04:38.639
ooh, I like that, Lanta. This is a good question for

963
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:41.599
you. Yeah, this is This
is a really good question. I mean,

964
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:45.280
so like the answer people are definitely
looking for here is like, oh,

965
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.400
I would go live in Star Wars
or I would go live in Star

966
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:51.400
Trek or whatever. My real answer
might be Fraser, so I can go

967
01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:58.119
live with Fraser because I love Fraser
so dearly the sitcom. If I was

968
01:04:58.159 --> 01:05:00.440
gonna give a better answer, yeah, I'd go I'd go kick it on

969
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:04.559
Naboo. Uh, seems pretty there, Natalie Portman lives there. It seems

970
01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:09.800
seems optimal. Yeah, give me
a Naboo in Star Wars, pretty place

971
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:14.599
in a pretty pretty people. Probably. I haven't seen enough of these movies,

972
01:05:14.679 --> 01:05:17.280
Nick, have you seen enough of
these to answer no? My answer

973
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:20.719
would be in a world where I'm
in a dating relationship and not doing this

974
01:05:20.760 --> 01:05:25.440
podcast. Oh we had to throw
in that last bit. Huh. My

975
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:29.639
answer is not Narnia because Narnia is
cold and I don't like cold. So

976
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:32.800
well, clearly you didn't watch the
end of the movie, sir. Yeah,

977
01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:36.159
does a big roar and unfreezes everybody. It does. It gets less

978
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:41.239
cold, but it's still it's still
cold because it doesn't turn from you know,

979
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:45.480
an eternal winter to July and an
instant out there. Uh it's still

980
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:47.599
very much cold, just with the
sun out now. Uh So, I

981
01:05:47.639 --> 01:05:50.039
don't know. Give me, give
me somewhere hot, give me somewhere in

982
01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:54.559
the desert. That's the fictional world. I don't there. There you go,

983
01:05:54.599 --> 01:05:58.519
tato wine. There you go universal
to place where there's a very few

984
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:00.880
other people and they're mostly criminals.
Hey, that sounds like a good place

985
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:05.199
for me to go with my ku
basketball takes at AJS and underscore officials.

986
01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:09.480
Should McDowell play Moore kind of touch
about that? Yes, the answers,

987
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:13.960
Yes he should. Yes, at
show Me Hawk. Would Johnny Furfey aka

988
01:06:14.039 --> 01:06:17.760
the Kansas Kangaroo take UMKC to an
NCAA tournament Berth No, No, but

989
01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:24.960
he'd be very good, be fun
to see. He would be Lebron James

990
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:29.000
on some of those early Cleveland Cavaliers
teams that he lugged around to a better

991
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:30.519
record than they should have, but
they would not go to an NCAA tournament

992
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:34.599
appearance. I don't think at food
sports guy, do you think Nick Timberlake

993
01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:38.840
settles in as a reliable shooter and
role player as the season goes along?

994
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:42.159
Yes? I do. This is
a guy that has thousands of college basketball

995
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:45.239
minutes. I know they're at thousand, but he has shot the ball and

996
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:49.400
proven himself as a quality shooter for
multiple seasons at the D one level.

997
01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:53.360
He will settle in when the game
slows down a little bit for him.

998
01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:57.880
He's got a nice chunk of games
in December against you know, the the

999
01:06:58.239 --> 01:07:01.800
frickin' what did they play? Like? Eastern Utah, Eastern Illinois? Thank

1000
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:06.639
you, Missouri's not any good.
They play Yale like U and k season

1001
01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:11.400
there like there's there's plenty of time
for him to settle in. You guys

1002
01:07:11.400 --> 01:07:14.119
aren't pushing the panic button scale of
one to ten. How concerned are you

1003
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:20.519
about Timberlake. I'm gonna say I'm
a two? Uh four? Haven't here

1004
01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:25.960
in the band in seek that's my
number? It's five, isn't it?

1005
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:28.599
Okay? I'm gonna say five.
All right, there you go. I

1006
01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:31.960
like it a few more here at
Kate Eden fourteen. What was the real

1007
01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:35.760
reason why le gerald vic quit playing
at Kansas? Oh, that's like a

1008
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:42.280
legit basketball knowledge question. The rumor
that I remember hearing the most, which

1009
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:45.400
I know is not what you wanted
to hear. A rumor I remember hearing

1010
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:48.920
that it had something to do with
his kid back in Memphis and that he

1011
01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:51.559
needed to get home. But I
think what happened to self threw him off

1012
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:56.280
the team. I think I think
because remember the Case State game they lost

1013
01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:59.719
in Bramwoo's Vic didn't play very much. There was a report that his mom

1014
01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:01.920
can fronted Bill self. I think
Self said, all right, I put

1015
01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:04.760
up with this long enough. I'm
done. We'll come up with this Memphis

1016
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:09.280
story to say face a little bit, but your asses off my team.

1017
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:11.840
I think that's what I say.
I think it's very likely they came to

1018
01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:17.199
some kind of agreement that it was
just both were very clearly unhappy, and

1019
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:23.920
I think they I think they've very
arguably mutually parted ways with gerald Vic in

1020
01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:27.439
the first like emphasis on, Bill
self asked him to go the first like

1021
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.800
seven or eight games that season with
gerald Vick was a god Nam sharpshooter,

1022
01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:35.199
like he was unbefore eight he had
like seven for eleven against Stanford and he

1023
01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:40.920
scored thirty three back in that game. Yeah, let me let like La

1024
01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:45.960
gerald Vic. We there was La
gerald Vic for all America going on at

1025
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.000
some point, and that was the
year that Mahomes took off for the Chiefs

1026
01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:51.279
and Kayu was number one to start, and it felt like everything was gonna

1027
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:57.800
be amazing forever and ever. So
le Gerald vick Uh scored two thirty two,

1028
01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:03.880
thirty three sixteen in fifteen, twenty
seven, zero, five and twenty

1029
01:09:03.960 --> 01:09:09.319
nine and the first nine games of
that season that is what, four games

1030
01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:13.760
of twenty seven plus and three games
of five and less, like just all

1031
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:16.920
over the place, eight for eight, seven for twelve and seven for eleven

1032
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:21.680
games from the three point line.
Preposterous start. And then it died,

1033
01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:26.279
and it died hard. La gerald
vic in his career had one twenty point

1034
01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:30.159
game against the Big twelve school and
that was that was it. But heat

1035
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:33.199
man was he fun November Lagerald Vick
was fun Landon Nick and I were like,

1036
01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:36.520
woo, they're gonna win fifteen straight
and now it's not even fourteen because

1037
01:09:38.079 --> 01:09:43.359
darn right, wow at Elliott rusen
h one, I only have one question

1038
01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.720
because all my other ones would be
too long, and I doubt Nick wants

1039
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:46.840
to go through a whole thread.
Look if that Nick, your influence is

1040
01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:50.039
spreading, sir, Your influence of
having a bad attitude has spread to our

1041
01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:56.359
listeners. Bill Selvin, I think
that was there beforehand. Ye, Bill

1042
01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:59.279
self is the best coach in the
country. So why did they go away

1043
01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:01.840
from Dickenson and or with that the
players? Yeah, beats me that.

1044
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:05.760
We just kind of talked about that, but I was losing my mind.

1045
01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:13.039
Okay, any any anything, any
any knowledge? Come on basketball. I

1046
01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:15.560
got a text and that took my
took my attention. Well, Elliott says

1047
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:19.520
he loves Elliott says he loves the
content, and now he's gonna hate the

1048
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:23.800
content. It's all oky. Thanks
Elliott. I'm so sorry. I'm a

1049
01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:29.199
douchebag sometimes, not usually, but
occasionally. Speaking of the next question here

1050
01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:36.359
is please don't answer. I guess
I didn't really realize how much of a

1051
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:43.600
show boat, which you could say
douche left the team that Hunter Dickenson is

1052
01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:47.079
doesn't seem like that's been Bill's brand
historically. What is the relationship going to

1053
01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:50.920
be like at this team faces adversity? Are you guys worried about Hunter Dickinson

1054
01:10:50.960 --> 01:10:56.199
acting like a jackass? Not really, No, I'm not either. I

1055
01:10:56.239 --> 01:11:00.159
think the team I generally don't like
show voting. I just like show your

1056
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:02.720
skill in the court. But going
back to land and being an old man

1057
01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:11.039
for liking First Watch that boy,
Yeah, I gotta tell you Landon Nick

1058
01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:14.439
has been on this show and talked
about wanting to go to bed early and

1059
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:17.800
and not liking women with tattoos.
But man, the First Watch being your

1060
01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:21.760
favorite take is the oldest man take
in the history of this podcast. We

1061
01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:26.439
need to hang a man or sorry
that I've only like four breakfast places ever,

1062
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:30.000
two of them being like I Hop
and the Big Biscuit. You grew

1063
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:34.840
up home school, how was going
to the I Hop or Denny's after church

1064
01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:40.760
not like a weekly tradition for you
guys. That's like that's everybody. Well,

1065
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:44.159
so the weird actual reason for that
is because my church never had its

1066
01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:47.199
own building, so we had afternoon
church, which really it was only like

1067
01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:53.159
an okayish NFL fan until I moved. That's so we had like after church

1068
01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:56.479
dinner mostly. And I don't know
if my town even had an Eye Hopper

1069
01:11:56.520 --> 01:11:58.920
or Denny's. We only had like
it was only like a town of twenty

1070
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.680
thousand way back in Michigan, right
the Michigan days, yes, where you

1071
01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:08.279
walked outside in the middle of site
stealing a coat on. I mean Jim

1072
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:12.640
Harbaugh did contact me once about if
I had a camera, which I mean

1073
01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:15.319
I did. He said he would
mail me tickets. It never happened,

1074
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:19.039
though. Once a show, Landon
says something that makes me think it's josh

1075
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:21.840
and not Landing on the other end
of this line, and there that was.

1076
01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:25.760
That was it. That was very
very Joshua Briscoe Lake, Sir,

1077
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:29.079
can't wait to hear you on eight
ten and eight years or whatever that would

1078
01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:31.640
whatever that would that, that's that's
fine. I'll vouch for you. You

1079
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:34.439
can have me be your reference,
sir. I'll put forth a portfolio of

1080
01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:42.479
your greatest hits, which is mostly
just me streaming Mary and then predicting the

1081
01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:46.319
Arkansas score that Kansas lost by basically, and then right then how they're going

1082
01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:49.199
to lose the duke in the Elite
eight, and then at the same time

1083
01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:53.560
still managing to lose all the piccameres
despite getting that game right. If you

1084
01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:58.199
ever have any askarcbs you know what
to do, go on x dot com

1085
01:12:58.439 --> 01:13:01.720
and tell Elon Musk just stop with
the damn bots, because oh my gosh,

1086
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:06.760
it's every tweet that I boast at
Rockshok Blog. Kansas takes the lead

1087
01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:13.279
response from a thousand symbols. I
just made twenty dollars betting on sports.

1088
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:21.119
Ah who put him in charge?
Ryan is drowning in twenty first century existential

1089
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:25.560
It's to be fair, to be
fair. Eli Musk is too worried about

1090
01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:28.560
what he's gonna name his next kids. True, we'll be worried about any

1091
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:30.720
bots. Oh my gosh, bots
actually name his next kid for him.

1092
01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:36.159
It is capitalism. They want me
to pay money to buy that check mark.

1093
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:40.279
So I don't have the bots because
that's what Elon does. You don't

1094
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:43.920
get the bots if you have a
check mark. I'm not buying a check

1095
01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:48.159
mark to tweet bad Ku basketball takes. What should I name my kid?

1096
01:13:48.239 --> 01:13:56.800
I'll just say Elon ten times.
If you ever have ascarcbu you already know

1097
01:13:56.800 --> 01:14:04.239
at this point, or if you
want this for but it's like you knew

1098
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:09.239
it was coming, all right.
Kansas Preview and Tournament Preview Number one,

1099
01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:15.560
Kansas versus Shamanad. Somehow we've gone. We've done three Shamanad previews in our

1100
01:14:15.560 --> 01:14:18.199
time on the show. That's three
too many. Monday November twenty at at

1101
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:21.319
eight pm. Now, guys,
about six people will watch this game.

1102
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:28.279
Why is that because it's Shamanad.
Also because the Chiefs and Eagles Monday night

1103
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:31.239
football game is going on right at
the same time as this, which boy

1104
01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:34.600
that I'm glad it's Shamanad. We
were talking about how we didn't want to

1105
01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:39.279
play shaman relegated my phone. Yeah, oh phone. I thought it'd be

1106
01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:42.920
at least a tablet or something.
A phone is just sad. You're you're

1107
01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:46.279
gonna have to zoom way in to
see what to see. Hunter Dickinson whipping

1108
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:51.840
out the forearm penis gesture against Port
Shamanad literally put his balls by a Shamanad

1109
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:57.920
player's face, like four times.
If Shamanad played six players for forty minutes,

1110
01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:01.800
would they beat Kansas It would be
closer than it would be, or

1111
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:05.439
that it's going to be. I
don't know if they win, say they've

1112
01:15:05.479 --> 01:15:10.560
won eight games in this tournament.
The twenty twenty three Maui Invitational will take

1113
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:13.920
place at the Stan Sheriff Center,
which is on the campus of the University

1114
01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:17.199
of Hawaii due to the damage and
Maui due to the wildfire out break earlier

1115
01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:20.920
in the summer. This arena holds
about five times as many people as the

1116
01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:27.680
Lahanya Civic Center did just an iconic
venue that's been used for years and years.

1117
01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:34.640
The mural, the small two thousand
person capacity that arena was not damaged

1118
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:39.760
in the wildfires, should be used
next year. Hopefully when the people of

1119
01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:43.319
Maui, hopefully by means a little
bit in this tournament, are able to

1120
01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:45.119
get back on their feet, they're
going to be doing some nice things for

1121
01:15:45.159 --> 01:15:48.359
the people in Mali, raising money
and donating a lot. I believe they

1122
01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:53.920
said during the Kentucky game that Kansas
will be auctioning off all of their uniforms

1123
01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:59.199
that are worn in this game for
Maui wildfire relief funds. Excellent. Hopefully

1124
01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:01.399
the people of Malia he can enjoy
what's going to be a great, great

1125
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:06.960
tournament. Yeah. Otherwise, there's
no preview against sham Nad because I don't

1126
01:16:06.960 --> 01:16:11.560
think Ryan could have been bothered to
google any stats. No, they don't

1127
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:14.479
matter, They really do not matter. Kansas will win this game by a

1128
01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:17.319
lot of points. Let me look
up some players on Shamanad's roster. I

1129
01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:20.039
can't find any stats. You're not
gonna be able to bet this game.

1130
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:26.439
They have a player named Jessilla.
They have a white guy named Lennon Lindholm,

1131
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:30.920
who is from who is from Dubois, so he is absolutely making at

1132
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:34.520
least a couple. And then they
have the so okay bet. Right now,

1133
01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:40.520
they have white guys named Ross Alec
from Sydney, Australia and Carson.

1134
01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:45.239
Which of those three will make the
most threes? Oh, I'm currently watching

1135
01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:47.960
through Friends for the first time,
so I gotta go with Ross. Hey,

1136
01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:51.319
wow, fat Friends. It took
Matthew Perry dying for you to watch

1137
01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:55.960
Friends. Huh. I was in
the middle of the second season or third

1138
01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.880
season, I think when he died. So sad. It's a good show,

1139
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:01.520
too, very good show. Kansas
is three and zero against Shamanad.

1140
01:17:01.520 --> 01:17:04.960
Those victories are by forty eight,
fifty one, and thirty points. The

1141
01:17:05.039 --> 01:17:08.600
thirty point game probably should have been
an l constrain. They didn't win.

1142
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:11.119
Buy more. There will not be
a line here, kase Shamanad is a

1143
01:17:11.159 --> 01:17:13.520
D two school. Just know Kansas
is going to win by a lot of

1144
01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:15.479
points. We're not gonna preview this. You can give me a score if

1145
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:17.800
you want, but Kansas big.
Let's preview the Maui Invitational though, because

1146
01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:21.520
this is gonna be really fun.
Loaded loaded, loaded, loaded. These

1147
01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:25.039
rankings are gonna shift a little bit, but none of these teams lost,

1148
01:17:25.079 --> 01:17:29.479
so good chance. These are all
top ten teams. Number seven Tennessee and

1149
01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:33.319
Syracuse tipping off at one thirty pm
on Monday, twelve straight hours of Maui

1150
01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:38.119
basketball. I will take I was
gonna say the Orange team, but they're

1151
01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:43.279
both Orange. Rick Barnes's teams normally
do pretty well in these Thanksgiving week tournaments.

1152
01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:45.000
We saw that last year with Kansas. I will say they beat Syracuse.

1153
01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:51.479
Yeah, I agree, Yeah.
And then Number two per Due and

1154
01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:56.720
number eleven Gonzaga, probably the best
of these four games. Maui second game

1155
01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:00.079
at four pm. Here's my upset
call. I will take the Gonzaga bull

1156
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:02.159
Dogs, who always played pretty well
in these tournaments. Mark Few will be

1157
01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:06.359
significantly better of an upgrade when compared
to Matt Painter in this game, I

1158
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:11.239
think Gonzaga wins and takes down Purdue
well. As long as he didn't have

1159
01:18:11.239 --> 01:18:14.760
a few drinks a few hours earlier, I think Mark Few will be quite

1160
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:17.000
a bit better. I was thinking
this as well, but I'm going to

1161
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:24.399
disagree. I think Zach eighty's too
much. Yeah, Purdue UCLA versus Number

1162
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:28.439
four Marquette. This is the last
game of the day. Kansas and Shamanad

1163
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:30.920
tips off at eight o'clock. This
game doesn't tip off till ten thirty.

1164
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:33.680
Boy, Marquette got a crappy deal. They're going to be playing close to

1165
01:18:33.800 --> 01:18:38.479
midnight at their time before this game
tips off, and I'm going to say

1166
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:40.960
that does not make a difference.
But I think this is the closest of

1167
01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:45.119
the four. Marquette narrowly beats to
UCLA. I do think this will be

1168
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:48.319
close, and I do think Marquette
wins ils Se Marquete wins. So then

1169
01:18:48.359 --> 01:18:53.680
if we kind of project forward our
bracket, I have a Tennessee Gonzaga Kansas

1170
01:18:53.720 --> 01:19:00.000
Marquette second round and I will say
Kansas over Gonzaga in the championship, I

1171
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:04.760
think that I have a Tennessee Perdue
Marquette. I'm gonna go with Kansas and

1172
01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:09.119
Perdue the matchup everyone wants to see, and I think Kansas will win that

1173
01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:12.880
everybody there is in the top seven, I'm mostly win Kansas Purdue, with

1174
01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:16.680
Purdue topping Kansas. Okay, all
right, that is that is a crazy

1175
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:21.920
amount of talent here. Somebody's gonna
lose multiple games, multiple teams may ranked

1176
01:19:21.920 --> 01:19:26.159
teams may lose multiple games this week, and the rankings are just gonna be

1177
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:29.399
a big cluster because basically everybody in
the top seven thinking at least one L

1178
01:19:29.479 --> 01:19:31.680
this week. My hot take is
if Kansas makes it out of this week

1179
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:36.159
without an L, they're getting into
mid January before they get one. They'll

1180
01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:39.159
have a shot. They'll have a
real shot if they can get through this

1181
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:43.560
tournament. If I gave you over
under Kansas minus forty, what line would

1182
01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:47.840
you What side of that would you
say? I'd probably go under, considering

1183
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:53.520
it's forty, but that would be
they're gonna fin It would have been that

1184
01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:56.600
would have been enough to cover two
of their previous three wins. I think

1185
01:19:56.640 --> 01:19:59.359
they win. I think it's in
the forties, something like one hundred and

1186
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:03.600
fifteen to seventy five. They didn't
win by forty. In the second game,

1187
01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:11.279
they won by thirty eight. It
was forty eight, wasn't it now?

1188
01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:15.479
It was ninety nine sixty one.
Are you talking about Kansas and Shamanad's

1189
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.920
history? Oh oh, oh,
oh, I thought you were talking about

1190
01:20:18.039 --> 01:20:20.079
two of their previous three. No, No, No. Two of their

1191
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:26.319
previous three. They two of the
three times yes, you are correct either

1192
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:29.880
way. I think general parody in
all of college basketball is going up.

1193
01:20:30.199 --> 01:20:32.760
So I think not that this game
is going to be actually close, but

1194
01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:36.319
I do think it will be less
than forty my actual score. If I

1195
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:39.720
have to give it to you,
I'll say one fifteen to seventy five.

1196
01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:47.279
Give me a number. I will
go one to oh three to seventy five.

1197
01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:57.680
I'll bet you rock chock blog if
they score more than that. Well,

1198
01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:00.960
I also think there's a very they're
going to play the walk Ons,

1199
01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:04.800
who will score. Probably they scored
ninety nine against Manhattan. They're scoring more

1200
01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:12.479
than ninety nine against Shamanad. Probably
there's a good chance we'll see limping to

1201
01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:15.399
the finish line here as Nick doesn't
care. That's that's that's fine, Nick.

1202
01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:23.880
Give me a score. Score which
game Kansas, Yeah, Kans Shamanad

1203
01:21:24.920 --> 01:21:30.279
Kansas one and ninety seven, Shamanad
three. And it's one of the white

1204
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:33.560
guys. It's Alec right at the
buzzer, makes it three from half court.

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Ninety nine points isn't cool? You
know, it's cool? One hundred

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points all right. So here's how
this is gonna work. I believe all

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three of us will be back at
the We're gonna do a show right at

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the end of Kansas Shamanad Late Night
Monday Night show because they're gonna win that

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and we'll get you ready for the
next game. If Kansas wins Game two,

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it'll be Land and and I very
late with a show that will come

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out in time for the championship game. If Kansas low is Game two,

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we're just gonna wait till after the
tournament is over, because that's right before

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Thanksgiving. But as long as they
keep winning, you will keep getting shows

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before they play next. Brutal,
brutal tournament to play in as far as

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trying to figure out shows, but
a really really fun one to watch.

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So looking forward to a awesome Thanksgiving
week tournament that is sure to be on

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deck and until early next week.
This is inside the Paint on Rock Chuck

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Blog. I am Ryan Landreth,
I'm MLS Comeback Player of the Year Alo,

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and I am Shamanad senter Poor Shamanad. Shamanad's about to get very very

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so. Okay, who would win
this game, Kansas if you did not

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allow mccolor, Harris, Dickinson or
Adams to play or Shamanad? Who's that

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a team of who's the point guard
is Almarco Jackson, Johnny Nick, Timberlake,

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Parker Brown, and Mike Jankovic.
Yeah, I think they still be

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I think I think they still beat
Shamana. I think Almarco Jackson looks like

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like Lebron James compared to Shamanad.
Yeah. I think that's probably true that

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there would be people that would go
to that arena in Hawaii because they've never

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been right, because it's it's normally
in now in this time, it's in

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Hawaii, that would walk out of
there thinking al Marco Jackson is the greatest

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player that's ever picked up a basketball. He would probably have like twenty two

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and ten easy. Yeah, he's
quite good. H random stat before we

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go, a different Kansas player has
had at least ten assists in each of

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their three games. Wow. Wow, Wow, that's actually really impressive in

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that wild Yeah, I just I
just put that one together. Brilliance all

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up here in the mind. Okay, somebody say bye, Audio Smuchachos