In the Bible in Joshua, chapter one and part of verse seven is to
be strong and courageous. And we've done programs about what does it mean to
be strong and courageous as a man Biblically? How do you do that?
Jesus Christ is the best method of that, the best model of that.
And there are young men, young strong men who are standing up against the
evils of sex trafficking. Yesterday you heard from one gentleman on this. Today
another one, Caleb Altemyer's founder and CEO of Helping Captives dot org. He
joins us talk about his journey and what they're doing in Idaho and around the
world. And this is so important to understand. And we learned yesterday about
how small towns are a hotbed for this because it's low, low risk.
So we'll talk about this with the help of Bulwark Capital Management. Zach is
one of his free life webinars coming up this Thursday at three thirty Good to
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Todd Herman. Today is a day the Lord has made, and these are
the time so which God has decided we shall live. And I'm joined by
a young man who's decided to be strong and courageous the same way God tells
us to. Caleb Baltimer, founder and CEO of Helping Captives, joins us,
pleasure to have your brother. Thank you, thanks so much for having
me. Yeah, what drew you into this this mission? Because it is
a mission. Yeah, it's it's a little it's a little unique story.
So I grew up my dad was the men's director at the Union Gospel Mission
Shelter. Oh no kidding. And then yeah, and then my grandfather was
the executive director and a board member before that. So and my uncle currently
is the CEO of UGM. So my whole childhood just grew was around homeless
ministry outreach. Like I said, my dad actually was the men's director at
the shelter, and so my that was just my childhood. Like my earliest
memories are having birthday parties in the shelter, like playing except birthday parties and
my mom's Yeah, preschool, Yeah, like playing tetball with all the guys
in the cafeteria. Yeah, and going to playing basketball and just hanging out
with them. So that was like my childhood. And then I kind of
my mom's a quadriplegic, and so my parents are still married. About five
months after they got married, they got a car accident and she she's been
a quadriplegic ever since. So I was raised by a mom's quadriplegic and a
dad that was running a homeless shelter. Wow. And so I had a
unique childhood, but blessed best one ever. But once I got into junior
hig high school, I started questioning God a little bit just because of my
mom's situation with the wheelchair. Totally ran away from my faith. And then
when I was eighteen, God came and spoke to me in a dream,
and so that kind of reawakened everything for me. I felt called and knew
I was called to ministry because of that dream and what he had told me
in it. So thought, well, next thing is maybe I should be
a youth pastor. Like that was kind of the natural transition in my head.
So I started going to church wanted to do that. But what I
was finding was I don't know if it was my childhood of just how I
grew up, or just my bent to be more of an evangelist. I
just wanted to be out of the building and I didn't want to be in
the I wanted to reach my friend group and I want to reach my city,
and I was more comfortable doing that, probably just how I grew up.
We had a ministry outside the four walls of the church. So at
twenty I started a small group and turned into it blowing up in that my
parents said, hey, man, we can't have thirty kids over here every
day at our house. You need to figure something out. So at twenty
two I started a nonprofit which kind of turned into doing more youth center style
stuff, and through that is when I started hearing stories of traffic victims and
kids. But what the real kicker was is my dad was still running his
Monday night church at the homeless shelter and women were allowed to come into that
Monday night, and a lady came in and told us him her story.
Well, that lady that came in and told him her story said that she'd
been trafficked from six or seven years old, but it was our neighbor,
oh wit, And so it was my neighbor that I thought was our babysitter
because she'd come over and hang out with us and play with us. My
mom said she wasn't really a baby serieser, just a neighbor that we would
come over and play with you guys. But in my mind at six,
you know, she's the babysitter, and so you know, first girl had
a crush on the whole deal. So it really hit home for me when
I'm hearing her story and she telling us her that the reason she'd come over
all the time was we were the only say family she knew. So I
go back to my youth center and I start talking about what I was hearing,
and I have a coworker that I had hired, and she started crying
and she tells me she has the almost the exact same story, and her
dad used to sell her and to his prison guard buddies. He used to
work at a prison and the inmates, and so I just it was almost
just like in my face, in my dad's face, and so we just
said, hey, we need to do something about it. At the time,
we were doing a lot more outreach and food distribution and trying to get
the church out of the four walls to reach the city. And we thought,
well, we'll just open up a house and if we run into the
situation, we'll put a family in there with some house parents and you know,
not having to pay rent, and we'll just put them in the house
and everything will be great. Well, we opened it up. We had
twenty one women go through the house in nine months, and it wasn't all
great. We'd realized, Wow, they're coming out of extreme drug addiction trauma.
And that's just kind of how we dove into it. And it's just
been kind of growing ever since. It's so amazing. You know. We
talked with Nate your friend. Yeah, and Nate Louis was in, uh
from Innocents Rescue Mission, and he and I shared the commonality of haven't been
kidnapped, it's been kidnapped. I was kidnapped. Mine didn't lost last as
long as he did. Crazy the Duds never told me this story. Yeah,
it was just with them for five hours. This is podcast, you
can get it on. But all right, I'm gonna have what uh,
But yeah, we just connected on that. My mom was a preschool teacher,
so I had my uh birthday parties in the preschool. I love that
you were talking about playing with the guys, and I used to work with
homeless guys in Seattle and got to know them as guys. Right, yeah,
right, So they're in the situation of homelessness. There's just all these
commonalities and they're bizarre, I mean really bizarre. First of all, I
showed you the music recording studio Dunstairs. Yeah, supers. Okay, So
the guy who runs that's a quad, get out of here. He's a
quite apologic kid. That's he taught himself. He taught himself to play guitar.
Okay, I got to meet this guy because it's so rare to find
somebody that's a quad that is like not a victim, Like my mom is
not a victim. He refuses to be victim. You Okay, we'll set
that up. But here's get this crazy. My best my my one of
my dad's best friends daughters was probably the first girl I had a crush.
One. She shared with me when I was in college that she had been
sex trafficked by her father. That's crazy. So it's so interesting to find
find the comment out, so we'll dig in. It is unfortunately more common
than Oh's as people don't want I don't think people want to know how common
is, so we'll continue to dig into this. We are sitting together,
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I can't let you get away without hearing about the dream in which the
Lord spoke to you. Then we'll get to some of the facts about sex
trafficking and then specifically what your group does, because we talked with Nate about
what he does and you guys are coming get this from a little bit.
Yeah, he's the other side of the coin, right right. So man,
I've when the Lord has spoken to me through dreams. Wow, those
are potent and yours was at eighteen yeah, just turned eighteen, yeah,
yeah, and I was a pothead high school dropout selling pot the whole deal.
Yea, yeah, so just so you really walked away? Oh yeah,
yeah, yeah. So I don't do anything halfway, bro, Are
you okay tell me what the Lord said? Yeah? So some of it,
I am kind of well, I'll tell you guys, I'm going to
be writing. I am in the process of trying to finally write a book
about it, because I just have been waiting and waiting, waiting. I
think God was more interested in me developing my character because I knew I had
a calling then, but I did not have the character. And so now,
but here's here's what happens. So I went to my parents' house,
and you know, my dad had rules. He went let me back up.
He went on a forty day fast in the woods with nothing but water.
Wow, And he was praying for my mom to get healed, and
she didn't get healed. But what he did was get a completely different direction
in his life. And so when he came back, I was that was
it for me because when he was gone for forty days, it was a
weird time. I started going from a private school to public school. There
was no man in the family at the house for forty days because he's up
in the woods. I'm hopeful my mom's going to get healed. He comes
back, She's not healed. I've already developed a whole new friend group.
I'm already starting to get in troubles and I'm thinking I can just take care
of myself. He's like, hey, if you're going to live here,
here's the rules. I don't want to follow the rules. So there's this
three year time where I'm like leaving, falling on my face, coming back
home, following the rules, not wanting to follow the rules, leaving again,
and so I come back. My parents change their strategy, so instead
of preaching at me, they start praying for me and loving me, and
then that would bring me in. And then if I asked a question,
they were ready. They're always ready to share with me the gospel. So
I was coming back to the house and my mom had put Bible verses all
over her television, so every time she wanted to pray for me, she
would just declare these scriptures over me, and she would go tell the whole
neighborhood ladies to pray for me and hand out my picture. I found all
this outlet. I got saved because all the neighbor ladies like and my mom
occurs around a wheelchair and literally, I mean neighbor like within a quarter mile,
like they're all praying about for me and know my story. And I
didn't know that. So I come home and I'm mad because I want to
watch like a basketball game, and I can't because there's Bible verses all over
the TV. And I didn't at that time. I was so angry at
even like hearing the name Jesus, I would just snap. And so I
just get mad, and I go downstairs and I'm like, I don't want
to hear about God. Dah da da da. And I go downstairs and
I'm so tired from partying the night before that I just fall asleep. And
then all of a sudden, I'm just not in my body anymore, Like
I'm just in a completely different space. And I'm walking up this trail and
there's a kind of a big boulder to my right, and then I so
I can't totally see what's on the other side of the boulder, but then
I get I keep walking up the trail. The other side of the boulder,
there's like a fifteen foot soldier and he's got a sword and a spear
and a shield, and he's like commanding something. I can't see what he's
commanding. And as I keep going up the trail, I get around the
boulder and I can see what he's commanding. It's this whole army and this
massive army of people. And there was sick. We're up on top of
a mountain now, and there's six there's three mountains to the right and three
mountains to the left, and down in this big valley, it's this army
and they're waking up. They're getting ready for war. It's early in the
morning, and he's commanding them. And all of a sudden, it starts
thundering and lightning, and the from the back of the canyon, you see
this tornado start to appear, but it's backwards. It's going up into heaven,
so it super catches your attention, right. And the tornado starts at
one mountain and goes to the across the canyon, over the army to the
other mountain, and then back and forth and back and forth until it gets
gets coming closer and closer to me, and all of a sudden, it
stops right above my head, and these two doves come down. And this
is when I freaked out, because in a dream, like if you fall
off of a mountain or a roof, you wake up before you hit the
ground, yep. Or if you fall in the water, you don't fill
the water. Bro. When these doves came down and picked me up,
they I felt them splashed me with water, and I freaked out because I
was like, oh, this isn't a normal like I can feel the wind.
It was not normal. It wasn't like a normal dream. Like I'm
just so you know, I'm thirty five and I can tell you every detail
of it. And so they picked me up and they carry in the mouth
of this tornado, and then all said, the mouth of a tornado.
I see the words and I hear this loud, booming voice. They go
into all the world, preach the gospel, make disciples go yeah, dude.
Three times they say this to me, and they set me down on
top of the mountain and I wake up and I'm my heart's racing. I'm
having like I'm almost having panic attack. And that's when I realized, I'm
like one God is real. It was terrifying. I realized how small I
was, but how he still loved me and had a plan for me,
and I knew the sin I was in. I know I didn't desert like
so that for that led me for about two weeks of like starting to crack
my Bible open. After two weeks, I was like, Okay, I
want to go see some friends. And I went up to my friend's house.
They're all partying, smoking weed and everything, and that's when I realized,
I'm like, I don't know if I can do this anymore. And
then I had to encounter where the Holy Spirit met me in that house and
had a bunch of demonic stuff leave me like it was just one thing after
the next. God was just pulling me out of that life. Bro I'm
getting freaked out by you guys, but you and Nabel, I'll tell you
why. Okay, I had a life changing dream where I had anger ruled
in my life and I was a punch the door guy. I was a
punch the guy guy. And I had this successful career. I built this
internet radio company and sold it. I'm well known in this industry and I'm
about to get a job at Microsoft, and my temper gets me and I
flew off the handle on the phone at a lady and said things I shouldn't
have said, and she rightly called the cops. So now I'm facing a
charge could derail this thing where Microsoft was so good to me and bust all
this money. And how old are you? Oh gosh, I was probably
thirty two thirty if that three years old. And I had a dream where
there was a construction worker messing up my commutes and I was mad at and
I'm screaming at him. And then a guy comes buying a bike and he's
telling me to chill. I'm like, hey, dude, you're on a
bike. And then the guy in the bike his face turned into the Lord
Jesus and he put his finger up like this, and it was gentle.
It wasn't a don't you it was don't be angry. And when he said
this, I had this feeling of floating like you did with the doves.
And I floated up into the sky and I was scared in my dream because
I was floating and I encountered the face of the Lord Jesus in the stars
and he said don't be angry. And I felt my body dying, like
all the life leading me leaving me like and I wanted to stay, just
stay there, and then my body woke me up and it changed me.
I went from that moment on I'm not ever going to surrender to anger ruin
me again. I mean a slip up, but so wow, you guys
are freaking me out. You you are on this. Praise the Lord.
I know, it's just he could just do what every once he's in charge,
right he is. So we talked with Nate, who's on the training
cops, training parents, teachers. They do arrange these sting operations to get
these men who are I think the Moonicaho possessed, pornagraph pornographically possessed, who
want to go rent the bodies of little children and and praise God, they're
stopping that and getting in the middle of that or punishing guys once they do
it, and helping cops do that. You guys are at the other end
of the spectrum. And what's that. Yeah, we're think on the other
side of the coin. So Nate does more. We also do education and
training, but we were more trying to train people and like signs to look
for, how to spot if somebody's being trafficked, how to work with survivors.
Ours is more working with survivors. Nate's mission is more to work with
the police department and train them on how to catch the bad guys. So
our whole mission is more to just provide safety and healing and recovery services for
women coming out of trafficking. So we do that in three ways with prevention,
intervention, and recovery services. So what prevention would be trying to talk
to kids, trying and talk to families, try to prevent trafficking from happening.
So we have an education center and we have four or five trainings that
just constantly are rotating through there. And then the intervention piece is like,
well, what happens when somebody has been trafficked? Where do they go?
Right? So you watch the Sound of Freedom movie and you're all impacted in
this girl's life. You know, she gets rescued, but then what like
she's not just going into a room and banging a drum and everything's great,
Like, she's just been raped ten times a day probably for years, and
she's probably got drug addiction and all sorts of stuff that she's either been forced
on hers on just a number self to be able to perform. And so
where do they go? That's that's why we exist. Yeah, it's a
beautiful thing to you know, know that that you're doing that, and it's
there's a link to helping captains dot Organ. The show notes when I worked
in the government schools, I worked in a gang impacted school in Salt Lake
City, which sounds weird unless you understand the dynamics of Sault Lake. There's
a bunch of Mormons run around the bicycles. Uh no, there's the there
there's there's part of Salt Lake that's pretty gang rid. Okay. And in
one day I had two girls come to me on half of what so.
I mean. The way it worked was one in the morning, a girl
named Jessica came up to me and she said, I need to tell you
something about my friend Crystal, but you have to promise to not tell.
I said, ah, you know, I can't do that, but I
can listen, and if you guys have know anything wrong, I'm not in
trouble. And she said, okay. Well, and I knew that Crystal,
she was in sixth grade, and I knew that she was overly sexualized.
I can see that. I mean, my dad's pretty obvious when they're
fifth and sixth grade, it is. But I mean in this society anymore,
with what we're doing with sex ed in the schools and how that's being
promoted to kids, some people are numb to it. I knew it because
my dad was a social worker. I knew the signs Suggestsica says, well,
her her uncle made her have sex last night. Okay, well,
you're very brave. Thank you for telling me this. And I saw Crystal
standing over in her corner and I said, and what do you want me
to do? She said, well, Chrystal was afraid to tell you,
but she wants you to know. Okay, So went over and talk to
Crystal, Hey, can you tell me what's going on? Because in Utah
they had to tell you couldn't say. I heard this, So praise god,
we're able to get that uncle. The cops did that. And second
time that day, another girl came to me and said, I heard that
you helped Crystal. Well, so my friend and she pointed her friend her
neighbor made her have sex last night. And then a boy couldn't tell me.
He couldn't complete the sentence. So talk about it being common because your
neighbor, my dad's best friend's daughter. Yeah right, it's sometimes people think
when you're looking for the signs of sex trafficking. Hey, just we used
to call it because it was for same sex attracted people. In downtown Spokane.
There's a place called the Fruit Loop. Everybody knew if you wanted to
buy sex with a boy or a man, it was at the Fruit Loop.
But it's not that the signs. We have to be looking for the
signs in everyday life, right, So what are they? Well, that's
a good point. I've brought you this because I thought you might want to
have that. I'll keep it right here. But some of the signs,
it's I mean, most of them are going to be just as a parent,
you just I think what I've learned is just understanding what trafficking is and
being trained on just what happens and how people groom kids and how how it's
happening. Your radars up, and so you start noticing things that don't seem
to make sense, you know what I'm saying. Like when you when you
don't understand that trafficking is happening, or you don't understand anything about it.
What I mean is you just like I used to think, oh, that's
just a prostitute walking down the street. Like I would have never thought until
I got some like just training on it, that oh, maybe this isn't
her choice. Maybe she was, she's being manipulated into this. Maybe she's
there's there's people behind the scenes making her do this, and she's got addiction
problems and we need to help her. So that was not the lens of
which I would look through it. So sometimes you end up in like a
situation you go, this just fills off, but I don't understand what it
is. And the more you get trained through trafficking, you can realize it
because you'll start looking at different things like signs of physical abuse or burn marks,
ruses, cuts. You start looking at them a little different, unexplayed
absences from school, Like if somebody just all of a sudden is a great
uh class, great at great at education, and it's four point zero,
and all of a sudden they're just not at school anymore, and their whole
entire personalities shifting and changing. You're like, even if it's not trafficking,
there's some some kind of trauma or something's happened in their life. You know,
because you start noticing those things you, you're kind of looking into it.
Maybe they're just all of a sudden way less appropriately addressed, overly sexualized.
They're tired in class withdrawn, depressed, distracted, they're bragging about making
lots of money all of a sudden. They might have two cell phones,
one that's for family, one that they every time it rings they have to
answer it. They might have a new new tattoos. They might be talking
to their friends about, like going out on dates with older men. Like
you start you know, these are some signs that you start seeing and starts
asking you, You start asking more questions. It hits. I don't tell
the full story because it's her story to tell, but something really bad happened
to our daughter, and it took us into a three year journey for teen
and adolescent mental health. Broken kid, broken family, right, and what
you're talking about. You know, we as parents expect our teens to get
wacky. But that change in personality, that that one day you're this and
the next day you're that, that's something that we've been trained as parents know
you need to dig into because you know, cutting yourself or burning yourself it's
ineffective, except it's not. It actually biologically helps reduce stress and anxiety.
People don't get that, but it's also this form of communication. But then
the bruises from getting beat up, and it's like, you know, you're
going to do this right, and that stuff that people don't want to see.
And I want to dig further in because there's definitely there's there's a difference
between sex work and sex trafficking, right. I want to talk about that
a second, right, because we need to use our minds on this stuff
and get our brains together to recognize what's going on. When I noticed that,
when I had this experience in the schools, I started to see that
stuff be more noticeable and I started to look at girls who were over sexualized
in a far, far different way, and I got I mean, in
one day, we knew this boy, this other boy was tragically not traffic
but sex abused. We knew that, the doctors knew it, everybody knew
it. But that gave me this hint to wow, this is super,
super super common. So what is the difference between sex trafficking and sex abuse?
Well, sexual abuse, I mean it's just anybody just abusing you sexually.
I think sex work would be you know, doing a commercial sex acts,
and so like if you're a if you're choosing to go out and do
prostitution for instance, that would be a sex work. But with sex traffic
there's recruitment, there's force, there's fraud, there's coorsion. So if somebody's
using force, fraud, accorsion to get somebody to perform a commercial sex act,
then it's sex trafficking. And if they're getting a minor to perform a
commercial sex act, it's immediately If it's immediately sex trafficking. So the difference
is there's got to be force, fraud or coorsion. Yeah, do you
think anyone actually chooses sex work? I mean no, I mean at some
point they might tell themselves that they have, But I'd have never met any
young girl that wakes up and she's four or five years old and says,
you know what I want to do when I get older? You know,
I think what happens is, I'll just be honest. I personally think sex
trafficking starts in the junior high hallway. And what I mean by that is
as soon as you hit junior high, cultures screaming at you. If you're
a guy, that the most important thing about use your body county and tries
to get you to get a didicted to pornography even now before junior high.
So they're trying to get you to look at women as objects instead of humans.
Yep. And from a woman's perspective, as soon as you get to
that age, your culture screaming at you the most important thing about choose your
body and what you can give a man sexually yep. And now you've got
one out of three women sexual abuse by the time they're eighteen, and one
out of five boys sexually abuse by the time they're eighteen. And that's what
I think is the beginning of all this is that now you get these men
that are addicted to porn they're looking at women as objects, so why would
they not purchase and pay for a commercial sex act? And so if you're
a girl and all of you, all you've ever been told is that this
is all you're good for. Let me give you an example. We just
purchased our local strip club and we're going to need to turn that into our
anti trafficking headquarters. I love it. This strip club was a I just
met with the manager that was there for fifteen years. First time she did
meth was in there. There's a lot as there's a lot of stories and
drugist choice. It's the whole thing. Deja vu in Spokane, Washington,
even back in the day of high school was notorious. Right, yes,
and so so we it shut down. We jumped on grabbed. It's perfect
location for what we're doing. It's on a bus line, it's the right
square footage. Everybody in our world knows where that buildings located. It's a
big concrete box. It's super secure. Like there's a lot of practical reasons.
It just works out great for us. And then obviously it's a win
win situation because now there's not going to be a club there anymore. So
you know, for us, as our Christians were like, hey, this
is only God could do this. Well, we did. The first thing
I did when we bought the club is I called all the men of the
community together to do a men's revival service and remove the stages and and so
yeah, so we did that and we had over three hundred guys show up
and we smashed the stages and roove them and they we did a full on
service. Thirty men gave their lives to the Lord. All these guys repented
of just objectifying women. And it was a men's club, so I thought
men should dedicate this back to the Lord, and so that's what we did.
Well, there was some women that showed up to protests that used to
work at the club because they didn't understand our heart. They just thought,
well, we were buying this because we hate them. Right. So during
the and I also am a part of a motorcycle organization, so there's Harley's
and everything there too, doing bikers good friends of us. We're actually doing
their ride on Saturday. It's bikers helping captives. Okay, so but so
we we were out there and the bikers come and get me in the middle
of service and like, hey, these girls want to meet you, and
so I go out, we meet with them, They take they let us
pray with them. They're crying. They start hear in our actual heart with
them for what we're doing, and we're like, hey, we love you
guys, like this is this is you know, we I want to be
here if you find yourself in a situation that ends in trafficking, or ends
in abuse, or ends in drug addiction, like we're here for you,
you know, and but after the meeting, we let them come back in
to say goodbye to the building because they just wanted to say goodbye to the
facility. And we go into the back room, which is where they were.
This was their locker room, and it's dirty and there's stuff everywhere,
and it's it's messy, and one of the girls just starts breaking down,
crying, just literally crying because in her mind, all she knows and all
she's been told is that this is all she's good for, is commercial sex
work, and this is the most important part. And so now she's going
At least here at the club, I had felt like I had a family.
I had bouncers that kind of protected me. I could tell guys no,
you know, I could choose who I wanted to dance with. And
now that this is gone, I'm going to have to go to the street.
Not well, I need to get a different career choice. It's I'm
gonna have to go to the street because this is all they know, bro
right right, And and now it starts in the home, that starts in
junior high, that starts in just younger. It's accelerated because you're younger than
me. And when I'm uh, but it was there as well when I
was a kid. That that was you know, we didn't call it body
count, but definitely that was there. And I can remember there was a
girl I had a massive crush on. I just thought she was I mean,
okay, I'm not gonna lie. She was pretty, but there's something
quirky and I like interesting people. And this was in junior high and never
dated her, never, like never, but she gave me a phone number
in my yearbook in ninth grade. Oh and by the way, I can
still remember it, of course, right, Wow, what's this? She
ended up working with me in high school at a place restaurant, and one
day after work, late at night, we availed ourselves to some wine coolers
and went out and talked. And I got done talking and started driving home
and I dropped Profford House. She sat there in the front seat and she
goes, that's it. Yeah, you're not going to try anything. I
don't know you. And she later told me that that was this unbelievable moment,
meaningful moment or life. And I said, why because you'll understand one
day. So it's accelerated in what's being done with this perverse pornographic sex ad
in the schools is breaking down kids barriers where hey, it's normal some adult
dude wants to come and show you a sex toy. Yeah, and that's
part of grooming that traffickers do. They try to get you to So I
want you to hold onto that because we need to compare this and you know,
just pay this off. And our time is brief, so we'll hurry
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dot com slash todd. So I was there Caleb fighting against the first evil
incarnoration of this sex ad in Washington State when the bosson Grammerent Schools over there,
Chris rakedall sweating, feverishly, obsessively going through the hallways of the legislature
pushing this stuff. Jim Feuda with Crime Stoppers International told me on my radio
program when I did Morning Dark Radio in Seattle. He said, this stuff
is a dream scenario for sex traffickers and for pedophiles. So the parallel lines
between this sort of curriculum and what groomers do. Help me understand that,
well, I just know. So let me give you. So I'm going
to tell you a story of a good friend of mine. Yeah, and
just kind of kind of try and humanize this a little bit. So I
got a really really good friend of mine, she's like a sister. When
I was just getting into this, she came and heard me speak at an
event, and she'd never told anybody her full story, and she came up
and talked to me, and then I had her meet with my parents and
she opened up her whole story. And then she ended up becoming one of
our staff and doing up being our activities director. But her name is CJ.
She's also the owner of a coffee shop in Spokane called The Garden Coffee
and local Elites, and she's totally down and open to me sharing her story,
and so I'm going to share that real quick. So CJ's story is
pretty typical of what we'll see. Is mom and dad get divorced. She's
thirteen. Mom and dad are drinking a smoke a pot all the time,
kind of partying lifestyle. So she moves in with her dad to downtown Seattle
in a motel and there's a pimp or a trafficker sitting outside. These tells
looking for situations like a CJ. So CJ's now living out of motel.
Dad's just kind of smoking and partying, so she's kind of can do whatever
she wants outside. This guy's in his thirties, approaches her, starts to
buy her food, kind of taking care of her over time, starts to
kind of bring her into more of his life, kind of desensitizing her to
all this sort of stuff. So I like groomers, traffickers sometimes will take
girls to strip club different things like that because they want to desensitize them to
the whole commercial sex industry. Right, and you know they start out with
like touching or red light, green light game, or just different things that
desensitize a human to sexual touch. And then he starts to get pull her
away from her dad and trying to isolate her. Right, So now all
said, Hey, your dad's not really there for Your dad doesn't really care
that much about you. Look at me, I'm taking care of you.
I've got this beautiful house in La You should just I'll move away with me
and come I'll take care of you. I'll be like your dad, right,
So she decides she's gonna run off with him. So a lot of
times you hear runaways and you don't know the backstory of like what's going on
or if there's other people involved. So she ends up running away with this
guy and she goes to get in the car and there's another woman in the
front seat. She goes, well, this is weird that it was just
me and him, right, But she goes, well, I'll jump in
there. But that was that guy's bottom girl that was also recruiting other women
in the Seattle area. So they drive down and they get to Bend,
Oregon and CJ's tall, She's like six feet tall, and so you know,
she might not look like a typical thirteen year old but at the time,
but she's clearly just a thirteen fourteen year old girl. And it gets
to Bend, organ and now all of a sudden, she's trapped, like
where's she going to go? So now they tell her, hey, we
are going to take care of you. We are going to give you food,
we are going to take you shopping, but it's not going to be
for clothes that you would ever buy, and in order to get the housing,
in order to get the food, are going to have to pay us
by selling yourself on the street. And so that's how she ends up getting
into it, being sold in the street. When she does get arrested at
that time, the police would just get her for prostitution or something like that.
And so now she doesn't trust them to even tell the cops. So
I want to tell anybout your story. Anytime she tried to leave, he'd
beat her or throw in her ice bass. So this is her this is
her horrible reality and being abused multiple times a day. And then she starts
to think, now now she gets into the drugs. Now he's groom training
her to say, this is just who you are, This is your choice.
This year just a hoe, You're just this. So now she's starting
to think of her own identity is this and this is all she's good for.
And at some point he leaves to go back up to Washington to get
somebody else, and she's able to get away, and luckily there was another
woman in the house I was older, that was like, you need to
like go, because at that point most of the women won't even leave,
They just have Stockholm syndrome, right, and so she's she's brave enough if
she leaves, comes back up to the up to Spokane. Her mom thought
she was dead by this point, the whole family's right because they thought she
had died, she was gone, and that just leads her into this next
season of her life, which is just drug addiction and partying, and nobody
never wanted to share her actual story until later on somebody hands her a book
in her thirties and she's reading her story and she starts weeping because she realizes
she didn't actually choose this because her she had been brainwashed to believe this is
your choice, you know. She realizes I was thirteen and this guy was
actually like grew me into it. And so that's part of the grooming process
for a pedophile or anything, is to try to like one just to sensitize
them to sex, and then you do the isolation tactics. So that's what's
worrisome to me about just all of this stuff and sex, sex a head
and all that kind of stuff. You think it was just there's a limit
to like, you know, wanting kids to be safe, wanting them to
come talk to teachers, or counselors that they're being abused and that type of
thing. And then there's a limit to like how much information they need and
now you're actually overly sexualizing them. Well, and you're telling them don't tell
your parents. Yeah, that part's just crazy, right till they trusted adult,
not your parents, and they specifically some of the parents. This is
and this is the part that this is going to be controversial. I get
it because I I would always want somebody to come talk to their parent,
right, some of these parents are the ones that are abusing their kids.
So what they do is they'll take this isolated case and then they'll just blanket
statement, blanket it for And I totally get that because in those my dad
had been a social worker, my mom master's degree in early childhood heed.
My wife is a brilliant and skilled teacher. We've seen those circumstances. There
was a little boy whose mom lived in uh she was a prostitute. Don't
know her story. I know that she desperately wanted to keep her son,
who would have to stay in her car while she performed acts a prostitution in
front of men, well two men, And I know that they were sometimes
abusing him. So yes, there are these cases where the parents the one
who's facilitating or doing it. But to take this blanket statement as they have
in curricula, don't tell your parents, particularly if they're conservative or Christian.
Bro Okay, So we just had our daughter. Yeah, and that's when
I started really working out because I was like, I had a son and
we like to wrestle. But for some reason, when I had my daughter,
like triggered something and we went to the doctor and my wife is filling
out the forms or something and the doctor, I forget exactly what happened.
But basically the reality is is that Sarah is she's told that she couldn't eventually
be on certain forms or something once my daughter turns thirteen, because she's not
allowed to know anything that's going on medically with our kid when she's thirteen years
old. Not just that, No, No, they in your state,
Washington, they'll give your daughter an abortion, antidepressants, wrong sex hormones without
your knowledge. Yeah, you'll get a bill crazy. Well, but there's
also this, A thirteen year old in your state can walk into a planned
parenthood and say, my parents won't affirm my sexuality, and they're gone,
and they'll hide them. A kid from Idaho can walk across the border,
go to a school and say, my parents in Idaho want affirm my so
called transgender. They'll hide that kid from the parents and from that home state
patrol. It's illegal for the same patrol in your state to tell a parent
where their kid is. So that's it's to me, it's demonic. And
we wrap this up because well where it's like, we're living in sound of
Freedom. I would tell you I was down in Port of art to Mexico.
You guys know this then at Renewed Healthcare, and I was talking about
the difference between Port of Arta and Northern Mexico. Northern Mexico is really really
cartel run now, to be honest, Solisco is. Two difference is that
the cartels have better drug policies than Washington State. Down in part of Arta,
they've said, hey, no fentanyl, and you touch a tourist,
you're dead to the cartels, which means you're dead. So it's a far
different place. They have their same issues, but it is so so's minor
there, which is one of the reasons that renew set up shop there.
They'd like to do what they do in the United States. But funny thing
we were talking about Big Farmer earlier. Big Farmer doesn't want placenta and stems.
Placenta and umbilical cord stem cells use to help regrow tissue because they'd rather
have you take painkillers things worse than iberprofile like fentanyl. So if you've been
told you're going to have to have surgery for like like a rotator comfor repair,
please pause. Get your MRI to the people at Renew. They'll tell
you how to do that. They'll look at it. You might not need
surgery. My friend Boris is a world class master's level swimmer, I think
third in the nation last time around, former Olympian. He couldn't swim.
Why he went to Renew Three weeks later he's back in the pool. My
case, they told me, hey, Todd, your shoulder is too far
gone, but we can help you after recovery. Second shoulder surgery, this
one, I didn't get full movement back for forty two weeks, I write
one. After I went to Renew, I was doing pull ups and push
ups in twelve weeks, which no one expected, at least of all me.
So you can work with these guys, I's Laura lumbar, it's arthritis,
it's even neurological. Is she's going to renew dot healthcare? Telling me
you heard about it on the podcast that Todd Herman Showers saw it. It's
renew dot Healthcare. Got like three minutes to wrap this up. This has
gone way, way too fast. I'd love to have you back. Just
number one. Gosh, praise God for equipping the cold in your case.
And what can an audience that's we have a big audience in the Pacific northwest
of the United States, but for whatever reason, we're big in Brazil and
Netherlands. And God's blessed our audio version of this podcast being in the top
one half of one percent globally. We're still working on the video stuff and
we're behind the times on that. But how can we help you specifically?
Yeah, I think right now the biggest ish, the biggest thing we're running
into is that within our anti trafficking networks, when we started off, we
were doing long term care, which means we were doing like nine to eighteen
month programs, and within our networks, there was only like ten organizations in
the United States that was doing emergency services and so we were asked to do
emergency services. We have a big issue in the Pacific Northwest. We're it
between Seattle and Billings, Montana within our network, and they're for emergency care.
Definitely the only I would say Christian Conservative organization in Washington doing this with
values that we have and wanting to keep Christ in everything that we're doing.
And because of that, we had opportunity from our city council to get a
million dollars and we had to turn it down because the only way to take
that money would have been to take Christ out of our organization. And so
right now we're just trying to Honestly, the best thing to help us is
just go to our website and just learn about us and know what we're doing.
And if you could just give to what we're doing currently to purchase the
old Strip Club and turn it into our headquarters, because that will exponentially help
us grow and help way more women. We've helped two hundred women already,
but this will allow us to have emergency, twenty four hour emergency care and
outpatient for women that need outpatient, and counseling for kids, and so that
all will be able to be happened through this new headquarters, and we are
only six hundred and fifty grand away from making that happen. Okay, so
just it's in the show notes. It's helpingcaptives dot org if you don't have
the show notes, helping captives dot org in an incredible way to take the
gifts God's given you to steward and steward them really really wize brother, just
a huge pleasure. You guys are still freaking out of it's commonality. I'm
gonna have to do some praying about this. This is the Todd Herman shall
please go be well, be strong, be kind, and please make every
effort to walk a lot of christ