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Hey, everybody, Welcome to life
is a gamble. This is episode twelve,

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and my guest today is Joseph Mirhy. Joseph has produced over one hundred

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movies. He's directed over thirty,
He's written over twenty, also been involved

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in television and longtime friends. So
Joe, welcome to life as a gamble.

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Thank you, Thank you for having
me months. Great seeing you again.

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You're one of my oldest friends,
one of my kindest friends. We

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hang out a lot together. We
wrote a few scripts together, and we

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made movies together. So we go
way way back. Yeah, yeah,

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And I want to get to that, but I really want to start at

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the beginning, which is you're from
a small town in Syria and you moved

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to the States. How old were
you when you moved to the States.

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I was eighteen, maybe eighteen and
a half. I was in nineteen seventy

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two. I was born in nineteen
seventy three, I mean fifty three,

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seven seventy two, when I was
eighteen eighteen and a half years old,

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I think I finished high school and
yeah, came to the States. And

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what was your plan? What was
the what was yeah, what was the

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plan? You know, you know, every single person. I'm realizing,

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and I seriously, you know,
between I turned seventy years old, so

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between sixty five and seventy you start
reflecting on everything. You start reflecting on

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you know, you know, like
I grew up thinking my dad is an

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idiot. You know. Then by
the time forty five, I'm thinking my

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dad the best, he did the
best he could. You know, I

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was lucky enough to see him and
then talk to him. And then then

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what who made me what I am? I start thinking, you know what,

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it's my dad. Also his influence, although he he really is an

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illiterate, he couldn't read or write, but he has this adventurous sense of

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I'm going to do something good in
my life. And he never went anywhere.

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He was you know, he was
he was. He fixed shoes and

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and he repairs shoes. And we're
you know, we're not poor, but

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a little bit above poor, not
a mentally class either. So so so

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so my father influenced me. And
even looking back, my father and who

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five jokes? And every client who
will come in to fix his shoes or

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Chinese shoes or do something, he
will tell his five jokes. And it

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was painful for me to hear over
and over and over again every every day

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for years. But he has a
this is just for life. And if

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it wasn't for him, I start
thinking, you know, he gave me

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all the money he has for a
dream that he's never been out of homes

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for more than maybe one hundred kilometer
or something. Did send me to the

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US. So but it all starts
again just thinking and reflecting. There's like

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God, whatever he is, she
is, whatever religion, kind of send

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you somebody and guide you. And
you don't you don't really see it.

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You don't know it, you don't
recognize it. Unfortunately for another ten,

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fifteen, twenty thirty years later.
And that person who God sent to me

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was a painter, not house painting. He was an artist actually. And

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when I used to go and get
to my father his supplies from the zook,

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I was like eight ten years old. I will walk by this guy

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and this guy who's painting on a
canvas, and then I'm a curious.

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I started standing there and just watched
them, and he was kind and he

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said hello to me. And finally, every time I go back and forth,

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I'll see the progress of that canvas
the next day. And I was

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I was really touched. And see
how beautiful this guy painted. And he

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just sat there, smoke a cigarette
outside on the sidewalk and just paint.

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And finally I stood there one time
watching and he goes here. He gave

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me the brush and he goes put
some colors on this tree. And I

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didn't want to do that. He
said, do it just see. You

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know, I'm going to go inside
and get some water and sit down here

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and start painting. So I sat
them and start. I was afraid to

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mess it up and put some colors. That came back and encourage me.

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Wow, you're an artist. You're
really good. You know who's your family?

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So he tells me, and then
I told him, you know where

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my dad's shop is. So a
few days later he asked me again to

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to paint, and I started looking
forward to it and stopped for a second.

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And then then he took me by
the hand, went to my dad

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and he goes, listen. He
said, this kid is talented. He

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should you should put him in an
art class. There's a summer art class.

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You should put him in there.
For my dad said, okay,

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okay, no, no, and
then he said and then he said isn't

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the money because at the time probably
cost a dollar to go in and and

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and then he said, no,
I don't want him to do. He

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said, if I paid for him
and I take him and register him,

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will you please let him go to
the art class. He did, and

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he did that. He took me. He paid for me, he you

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know, and he was he was
asking me, what did they teach us?

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What? Show me some of the
paint the drawing. It was a

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pencil and shadow class, so only
with pencil, no colors. And I

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showed him what I drew, and
he goes, you, you're fantastic man,

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He said, you have you have
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goes to the house and he takes
the camera and the camera is one of

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those cameras that you look into the
linus, you know, into the viewer

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for the top down from the top, and he put a film in it

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and he said, go shoot some
pictures. So I went and stuched,

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you know, I shot the pictures
and give it to him. He paid

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for it to go to the lab. And so he encouraged me and me

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in a while, there is a
movie theater open next to us, next

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to the shop, and the smallest
movie theater, very very small, maybe

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one hundred c and the owner will
bring his shoes to us, you know,

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I'll shine his shoes. It fixed
his shoes for free. So he

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allowed me to go and see the
movies anytime I want. I'll walk in

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in the middle of the movie and
begin, you know, right after school.

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So from eleven to twelve thirteen fourteen, I saw probably one movie I've

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seen twenty times daily time, forty
times. You know. I spend my

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time in the movie and they only
brought like one movie every three weeks over,

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you know. So I saw you
know, Humphrey Bogart, I saw

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John Wayne, I saw Tarzan,
and I saw Hercules. So who was

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like, oh my god, this
is what I want to do. So

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so all this comes together because of
this kind man who decided, you know

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what, I'll pay attention to the
skin. Wow wow. And then then

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he helped me, you know,
get a visa to get to come to

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the US. You know, wrote
wrote for a college, any college,

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and and the only place I could
because I didn't have a lot of money,

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I didn't know anything. It was
Palatka, Florida. Saint John Tollige

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in Pavlatka, Florida. They sent
me an application, went to the embassy,

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of course, and the embassy they
have no reason, they have all

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the reasons not to give me,
you know, my visa. I wasn't

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rich. They didn't know if I
was going to be a liability on the

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government here. I only had four
hundred dollars to take with me. And

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there and this woman looked at me
and she really liked me, and I

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remember she was so kind also,
and she stamped the visa. So now

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I'm coming, I'm coming to Florida. And what were you going to study?

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Art? Well, I couldn't tell
my dad. I really want to

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study movies, you know. I
want to be a producer. I want

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to stay. But you know,
my dad said, what are you going

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to doing study? I said,
several engineers. I said, you know,

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I want to build things, you
know, And he said okay,

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okay, And I said, this
is the only place that And I showed

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them a little article that I looked
in a newspaper and Eric, of course

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it was and he couldn't read it. But I'm reading them that even the

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construction workers makes like six dollars an
hour, seven dollars an hour. There's

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a lot of money that would we
make in a month, you know,

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you know, you know guys working
there, And he said, I said,

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I want to make six dollars an
hour. Dollars an hour, yeah,

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and he's still okay, So go. So I went. And the

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night before I was panicking. I
said, wait a minute, I'm going

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to the US. I'm looking at
this map. I said, well,

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how the map? How is the
plane is? No, I'm going to

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go to that city, to Florida. How would they know that they're probably

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going to drop me in New York
and that's it? How would they know

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that? You know? So you
know, I went to to New York

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obviously, and the guy ripped me
off. It took like twenty dollars for

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my money, and he didn't give
me the change. It was should have

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maybe two three dollars, okay.
Then took a bus a cat at the

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cat going from one airport to the
other. It was a different airport I

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was going, and then ended up
staying spending the light in New York.

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Next day, I took the plane
to Jacksonville. Jacksonville, I took the

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the the bus to to Palatka.
You know, right, on the weekend.

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It was like a ghost town.
Nobody was there, you know,

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it was it was really it was
really something. Of course, I and

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you didn't know a single person,
right, You're just I knew, I

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knew. I knew one person in
Palatka that my neighbor had gone there,

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same thing that it was really uh
an easy city to go to, an

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easy college to go to. And
I didn't see him till like a week

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later because he was working in Jacksonville. And so I paid two hundred and

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seventy five dollars I paid, So
I only have like a eighty ninety dollars

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left, and I have no no, no desire to to learn anything except

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I kept thinking, I'm going to
run out of money. I'm going to

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run out of money. I'm going
to run out of money. And what

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did you spend the two hundred and
seventy five for the college, paid for

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the doms And what about where were
you going to live in the dome that's

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included in the door in the Wow? College was cheap back? Yeah fifty

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years ago, Yeah, it was
that much. So uh So I let

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my roommate, you know the American
Plan, Lou you know his name is

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Steve. And I didn't understand literally
awarded English, and I'm supposed to go

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to the English, speak English.
Didn't speak No, not speaking English.

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So I mean, that's just amazing. You flew over here to this country

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where you knew this one person and
didn't even speak the language, not speak

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the marriage and you know a few
words here and there, but did not

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speak the marriage. But I really, you know, I'm pivoting into something

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else. I really think that the
talent that God gave me, I don't

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know, is it my face,
the way I talk, whatever, that

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people really wanted to help me for
some reason. People helped me along the

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way, you know, like my
roommate helped me, you know, the

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teacher helped me a little bit.
And then finally I was eating. I

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bought a pot and I bought a
stove. You're not supposed to have anything

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like this in the in the dorm, but I remember getting hot dogs and

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he so I boiled eggs and hot
dogs on the same pot. And the

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love of the American you know,
white bread, which is I hated.

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I hated that bread. And back
then they didn't have like a selection of

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breads you can buy, no pita
bread, of course, no, no

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really good bread. It was just
white bread and it was terrible. So

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I was eating that, you know, and and start to look for a

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job. Go on main street.
It was like a tailor shop. It

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was, you know, a gas
station it was. But nobody will hire

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him to do anything. And I
was going to run out of money.

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So I told my friend, I
said, you know, I said,

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I'm gonna run out of money.
I gotta I gotta leave here. There's

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no jobs here. And he said, you know, you need to go

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to Gainsville. You know, Gainsville
is where Gainesville, Florida. It is

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only an hour away, an hour, an hour and a half away,

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whatever. And I went to Gainesville, packed my suitcase and went to Gainesville

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and it was dropped at like,
you know, walking through the street with

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me, he said, go next
to the to the university. You probably

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can meet somebody who can speak Arabic, can help you. Went to McDonald's

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and shot enough with three people steaking
erb wow, and I asked, you

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know, I told him, you
know what I am, what's going on?

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And I need I need help to
find a place to live. And

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one guy is at Palestine and I
spoke to him, still speak to him.

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His name brah hindj or Dan.
And he said, I'll put you

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up for a few days. So
he took me to his apartment and he

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put me up for like a week. And the other guy I met at

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McDonald's, he was working at a
place called Coffee King and he said,

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you know, you know, let
me take you there. Maybe they can

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use you. And I went there
and they gave me a job as a

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busboy. I was making a dollar
thirty five an hour and I was like,

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felt like, you know, maah, this is great. So I

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worked there and then it was another
I needed another job. They only did

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like three days. I got another
job somewhere else as a dishwasher. And

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then the same guy told me they're
opening a steakhouse, new steakhouse. They're

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looking for people. Maybe you should
go there. So I went there and

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they said they were paying one forty
five an hour as a dishwasher, and

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I said, okay, great,
So that was my full time job.

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Now I went from part time to
different places to a full time six days

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a week. And so you weren't
going to school then if you're working.

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I did not good to school.
I not good school. I took the

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first two or three months, two
months in Polatka, I think, went

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to classes and then it was really
funny. I went, I said,

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you know, the stood for me
that I really wanted to be a producer.

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And they said there's a production class
that I said, okay, great,

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So I went and sat in it
and they were talking about the history

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of the cinema, which is I
didn't stand the guy they were so so

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I left that class very quickly,
you know, especially when I looked at

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the book, I was like three
hundred pages, four hundred pages, I'm

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like, what the back? So
I, when you know, I dove

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onto working, working very, very
very hard. Within six months, I

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was went to like sixty five dollars
one sixty five an hour to one eighty

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five an hour. Because I was
a dishwatcher. I wasn't the bus away.

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I was a dishwasher. But I
will watch the issues so fast and

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I'll go out and help the bus
for me, you know, and I'll

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bring him an assistant director at the
time, assistant director, assistant manager.

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His name is David. The night
magic said what are you doing in in

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the dining room? It was a
huge place and you know, you know,

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I said, he said, do
go watch the dishes. I said,

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they're all washed, you know,
start learning English. And so he

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comes back to the dish dish washer
place and he says, all the dishes

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are washing star and I'm running helping
the guy with the so he said,

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oh my god. And then across
the room from the dishwasher. So across

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is when we cut the meat.
So the meat comes at like twenty thirty

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forty pounds pieces of meat, and
they have a saw. It's this machine

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that they cut it in. This
now it's New York steak and it's this

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and we grind Hamburger and the room
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end of the they bring all the
meat and they cut out. It was

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a huge steakhouse. It was like
like two times three times as biggest sizzler

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called the Chaparral Steakhouse. And so
the room has to be hosed down with

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the hot water. So the guy
is black, the guy who was hosting

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hosing it, and I have nothing
to do. He goes, hey,

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come and help me. So I
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then I start hosing it every day. So again the assistant manager will walk

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by and what the hell you're doing? You know you're supposed to do the

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dishes? Say, well, everything
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morning one day and he sees me. I'm cutting the meat with this guy

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you know, you know, and
I'm putting you know, we marinate it

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and we put it in trays and
we put it in you know. And

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so two or three days later he
didn't say anything. He was really friendly

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to me. Now he's seeing me
how hard I work, and you know,

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he will say, can you stay
extra two hours, five hours?

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Okay, I'll say ten hours,
twelve hours whatever. So now he had

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me come like at seven in the
morning set up the line. But you

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know, but everything they need for
the lettuce that it made. Its the

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you know, mob of the floor. Now I'm working ten twelve hours a

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day, which is good. I'm
making money. I'm happy. And so

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one day he said to me,
listen, this guy forgot his name,

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the guy who cut the meat.
He didn't show up because I saw you

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cut the meat. You know how
to cut the meat. I said,

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yeah, I know how to cut
the meat. So, you know,

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he put an apron on himself and
start cutting the meat and I start helping

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him. All of a sudden,
I became the meat cutter. I'm making

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two dollars an hour, okay,
moving up in the world. Six months

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into this, I'm making to the
Now I have the keys to the restaurant.

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To come in the morning, you
have to me. And now the

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owners you know, meet me,
and he tells him about me like a

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great worker. Da da da.
Then they made me an assistant manager.

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Would I make a thousand dollars a
month? Wow? Okay? And now

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this process took how long? By
now it's about a year. Yeah.

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Wait, I just want to back
up for a second, because there was

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a story when you first got there, you were eating the hot dogs and

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the eggs, where a guy told
you about tuna. Oh yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah yeah yeah. So
so yeah. One of the guys

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told me, I told you all
I ate. My budget was was a

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dollar a day to eat the eggs. And he goes, you know they

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have tuna, so and said for
nine cents once you get some of the

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tuna. I went yesterday and got
a hundred can. I'm going to go

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back to day and get one hundred
can for nine dollars, I said,

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please show me where the place is. So he took me this supermarket and

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we walked in and sure enough,
this can of tuna fix this time nine

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cents. And he got a huge
cart and he's putting all all his emptying

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the shelves. And I said,
when I said, why there is a

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picture of a cat on it?
You know, I don't know. I

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said, maybe this is for the
cat, says tuna, Look tuna,

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I said, I said, I
said, so we start asking the lady.

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He spoke just as bad English as
I did. Literally were making the

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sound of him. Yeah, yes, it's for cat. So you didn't

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actually eat any He was the only
one and I told him, I don't

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know if I can eat that,
and he said it's truly good, and

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he didn't put him back. He
bought him, Wow, no one,

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it's it's for cat. But later
on we learn that the laws of making

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u cat food or pet food that
it has to be edible for humans just

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in case. You know, so
it's edible. So I didn't. I

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didn't eat it, but yeah,
he didn't eat it. So now no,

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I moved to a regular apartment.
I had my first girlfriend. I

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went on my first date, which
is a waitress who worked there, you

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know, and and it was it
was, it was everything was going well.

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And now I decided, you know
what, after I work for maybe

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a year and a half, now
they trusted me with the with the key,

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trusted me with Now I'm doing the
paperwork where I'm doing the deposits,

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nine deposits. And then I said, you know, I got to go

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back to school. I need I
need to go back to school. And

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they weren't really happy, but they
loved me, and they gave me a

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recommendation. They said, they said, well, but you still have to

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work. I said, yeah,
I can work. But there's a place

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called twelve East. They just open. Some of the people I know they

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worked there as waiters at night and
they make like fifteen forty fifty dollars,

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you know, in tips. It
was a very very high and you know

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place. And I said, I
want to get a job as a busboy.

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Maybe one day I'll be a waiter. And the guy said, I

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know the owners. You want to
work there. So the guy called the

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owners and he said you're got to
You're got to get the best guy there.

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And so the guy I went there
and he said, what do you

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want to do And I said,
I want to be, you know,

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a waiter that I understand. You
have to work as a busboy first.

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And he looked at me, he
said, come with me. He put

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me in the car, went to
a clothing shop and bought me two taxedos.

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Wow, two taxedos. Because you're
going to be the assistant major D.

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You're going to see people. You
have the personality to see people,

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to talk to people. That's what
you're going to be. And I went

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there and all my friends thought,
you know, I'll be lucky to get

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a job. As you know,
they were more you know, they were

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in this country for five six years. They were a waiter, they seasoned

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and they said, and now all
of a sudden, I'm their boss.

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Yeah. So and the mater d
himself. He was a very he didn't

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like the idea all the kids who
does not speak English, well speak very

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little English, you know, just
because I was like twenty one years old,

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now, you know. And so
I had this taxedo and I'm seeing

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people. Not the place was a
was aware. So the very first thing

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he said to me, he said, you know a lot of tourists comes

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in here. Then asked what was
this place. It was like massive,

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twenty pavelant square feet, you know, banned different restaurants and bars. And

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he said, you know, this
place was a warehouse. So you're telling

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me. You know, people would
ask what was this place before? And

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I thought, he said a whorehouse. So I will see people and they

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all say, hey, what was
this place before? And I said a

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whoorhouse and they would laugh, what
was this place before? I said the

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whorehouse? And I said, okay, they laugh and sit down. So

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one time he overheard me, he
goes, it's so it's a warehouse.

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You've done as, not a whorehouse, Richard. So then I walked by.

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The guy hated me the major did. He just said. I was

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young, I was bubbly, I
was happy. I'll do whatever it tastes.

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And of course, the first time
somebody gave me five thousand, five

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dollars tip, five dollars they give
me a tip, I seated him and

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I didn't know what the hell why
they're giving me five dollars? You know,

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you know, So then I learned
people look tep you. So I

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seated some people and the guy grabbed
me and goes, get me a screwdriver,

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I said, And I went to
the table and I pushed on the

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table. I said, there's nothing
wrong with the table. And he started

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laughing, and I thought, oh
my god, I'm funny. Okay,

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so I walked around back, walked
by the end because where's my school driver?

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I said, you really need screw
driver? Yes? So I went

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to the interview and I said,
lest this guy asked for screwdriver. There's

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nothing wrong with the table. It's
not shaking or anything. It said,

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drink you the mess? Oh man? So how did you get from Florida?

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When? What the best one is? When a girl said to me,

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can I have sex on the beach? No? Yeah, where it's

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a drink? Yeah yeah? And
I'm thinking what First it's like, I

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love this country. And second part, we need to learn how to swim?

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Man? Oh man, So okay
you're talking. You're talking about taking

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a chance. Now I have a
girlfriend. I'm doing really, really well.

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I quit my first job to go
to school. I took some courses,

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some English courses. Now two years, two and a half years passes.

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I said, I got to make
movies, and I just put everything

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in the car, moved to Hollywood. Wanted to get to Hollywood. And

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again, you don't know anybody.
I know, I know, I know.

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I knew one person in Hollywood.
I knew one person in Los Angeles.

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I have learned about different people introduced
me to And I called him and

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I told him I'm going to come
down. He said, okay, come

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down, and I drove to Hollywood. So you're talking about life as a

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gamble. Every time I was comfortable, I was very very comfortable. I

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was working in this beautiful place,
and now I have a place to live

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and I have a nice, you
know life. I have a good car,

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and moved, moved, and now
I was in this place. She

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is very tempting to stay there twenty
years, thirty years by a house,

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you know, very tempting. I
got to get to Hollywood. So I

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went to Hollywood, get in a
car. When they packed everything, left

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the girl behind, left the girl
behind. Wow, she followed me.

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She followed me back to Hollywood.
Actually lift everything and went and drove to

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Hollywood. Now I'm in Hollywood.
And I arrived like midnight, and I

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told the guy, please take me, take me, show me Hollywood,

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show me howp So he's taking me. He said, okay, he get

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me in the car. It's he
was living on Rampart and near Burnhout,

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you know, really bad area.
I was staying with him for the first

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day or two and I got a
room. I got an apartment in the

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same room. But the same night
high Arrier was like at midnight and I

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said, take me. Think I
want to see Hollywood. Don't see help.

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So he's taking me. He's driving
and he's talking and we're talking,

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talking, talking, talking, and
I said, take me to Hollywood.

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He said, you are in Hollywood. And he's taken me up and down

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Hollywood Boulevard and they all we see
is his hookers and pemps and dirty And

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I said, no, this is
not Hollywood. He said, yeah,

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this is Hollywood. Very disappointed first, you know, impression of public.

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And now okay, I the same
guy. He got me a job as

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as in the bakery Pika Peka bread. You know, we started working in

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the bakery and as a driver delivering
the bread with him. We'll go with

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him and we start taking bread and
start talking to different markets like rough supermarket

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or market basket. People didn't did
not know Peter bread. We introduced the

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Peza bread. We introduced the Bakla
Bah Well introduced all these people to open

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raps for these supermarkets. Uh,
and then again, you know, a

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year of that and I quit again. I quite I needed to do something

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else. Meanwhile, I went to
l SEC. I registered the LFC l

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SEC to take some film film productions, you know, but I couldn't make

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it. I didn't, you know. I found out that the apartment building

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I was in, I got friendly
with the manager and finally I said to

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him, I can't make it here. I don't know what to do.

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You know, I'm just like throwing
in the towel. I can't save enough

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money. The rent is too expensive. LA is expensive. I was smoggie

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back then. This is nineteen seventy
five, I would say. Now,

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yeah, three years later, now
seventy five, and traffic l a SEC.

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I wasn't getting I was. I
was miserable, and I said,

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he said, you know, you
need to go someplace. You want to

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save money, You need to go
to some place like Vegas. What's Vegas?

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He tells me. He gave me
the route how to get there,

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my clothes. That was the most
difficult move I've ever made, because you

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didn't know anybody there. Know whether
zero. I didn't know anybody, but

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it was comfortable here. I knew
now enough people, I'm going to school,

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I have a routine, I'm working
in a place that I liked,

412
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all arabs and pita bread, and
it was it was a very comfortable situation.

413
00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:29,839
But I realized I can live nicely, you know, get by,

414
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,839
but I'm never going to get a
hat. And when you were going to

415
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:41,880
do this, like, I mean, did you just feel like I'll always

416
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,440
be able to find work. I'll
find somewhere to stay, and I'll be

417
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:52,440
able to get a job somewhere or
much. I remember vividly the minute.

418
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,119
I remember standing outside, and outside
it was I was living on the third

419
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,200
floor looking over the street, which
is first of all, every time you

420
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:07,440
come home, we gotta circle two
three blocks to find a party. That's

421
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:13,839
fine, okay. It was approximately
noon, it was raining and Paul Anchor's

422
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,200
song sang having my Baby, What
a lovely way to say I love you

423
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:25,519
whatever that song is. I remember
it like it was yesterday and decided after

424
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:31,000
the guy told me about Vegas and
I start packing my clothes, I went

425
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:34,640
down, put everything, say I'm
going to Vegas. Man, here's the

426
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,000
key, and he said good luck, and went that's it, and I

427
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,319
went to Vegas. And I drove
to Vegas. The very first stop.

428
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,759
They were remodeling the Aladdin Hotel.
But it's only like six story, and

429
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:50,039
they had a buffet. It was
like a dollar forty nine or something.

430
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,000
I went in there and I the
reason, I say, alad in this

431
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:58,920
Arab you know, it's it's an
air work, you know. And I

432
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:04,240
went in there and I stuffed myself, you know, with all the food,

433
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,240
and then went down Las Vegas pool
of work all the way till the

434
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:15,119
strip ended at the Sahara. Now
I could have made the left turn,

435
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:19,160
my life would have been different.
And I made a right turn, and

436
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,480
I went the second street after the
Paradise is van pattern and it says apartment

437
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:28,559
for rent. I went made the
right and went in there and rented an

438
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:31,440
apartment. And rented the apartment,
and the manager of it was a lady

439
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:35,839
about fifty to fifty five. I
said, listen, I just walked here

440
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,799
from La She's asked me for reference, she's asked me for an application.

441
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:44,000
I said, I don't have anything. I have enough money at five hundred,

442
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:51,279
six hundred dollars and my rent was
I think seventy maybe sixty dollars fifty

443
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:59,720
dollars whatever a month, one bedroom, yeah, one bedrooms like twenty two

444
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,119
so with a pool inside of it, in the middle of it. And

445
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,960
she told me, what's your qualification? I said, I work in the

446
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,639
restaurant, you know. She said, okay, you have to go and

447
00:34:07,719 --> 00:34:12,360
resist her at the Calenary Union.
You know, that's the only way you're

448
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,039
going to get a job. And
I said, but I want another job.

449
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:15,960
I want to be a dealer.
So she said, okay, you're

450
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,639
going to go to a dealer school. And she looked into the again.

451
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,159
Another person who really helped me anybody
also said no, you know whatever,

452
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,840
but she helped and so I went
to both. I went to the Calenary

453
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:37,519
Union and registered, and then I
went to the the dealing school and they

454
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:44,159
asked for I think two hundred dollars
one hundred and fifty dollars for six weeks.

455
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:49,159
They said anyway, and then,
but I needed the job right away,

456
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,360
so I kept the driving, stopping
at seven eleven, I said,

457
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,079
I'll be a cashier in one of
the seven eleven on Boulder Highway in Sahara.

458
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,519
I actually used to be at seven
eleven. In there, they hired

459
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:04,159
me. You make a ride on
Sahara from Boulder Highways on the left hand

460
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:07,840
side the Battlemarkadel and it was brand
new seven eleven and they hired me to

461
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,880
work graveyard shift. It was working, you know, open twenty four hours

462
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,000
a day. So that's how it
started. And then I kept going back

463
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,599
to the callinary I should. I
want to get a better job, and

464
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,480
you know for dealers. I finished
dealing school and then I got a job

465
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:31,920
as a room service leader at the
at the Startust Hotel, STARTUS Hotel room

466
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,880
service leader, you know the mine
shift, and I was working seven to

467
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,159
eleven during the day. It suits
me to the day. And then it

468
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:51,199
was another hotel, small, small
little casino on Boulder Highway called Sky Sky

469
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:57,360
siland Skyland Island. So they hired
me as a dealer twenty one. It

470
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,119
didn't make any money. I wanted
to break into the to the casinos.

471
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,599
So I get very very friendly in
at the start hotel. I started on

472
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:12,000
the city at I started, but
we were doing really really good at tips

473
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:16,360
in the room service. We were
doing really really good in the I was

474
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,599
working in the graveyard eleven to seven
and you get all these people, you

475
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:24,159
know, drunk at the end of
the night, and you know, and

476
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,679
they tip you, get some food, get some drinks, whatever. And

477
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:36,079
then Frank Resenthal remember the movie movie
Casino. Yeah, yeah, my boss.

478
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,480
He's food and beverage manager. And
I used to take care of Frank

479
00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:43,239
Resenthal. He used to always take
a shuwgar off at two o'clock in the

480
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,840
morning, three o'clock in the morning. Whatever. He will call for champagne,

481
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:50,440
he will call for food. As
a matter of fact, they started

482
00:36:50,519 --> 00:36:53,239
hotel, I had five or six
restaurants, and one of them will still

483
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,320
open just for Frank because he wants
to eat something. So we'll close at

484
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,320
eleven feet in the twelve o'clock and
if they knew he's gonna eat something,

485
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:07,360
they'll say suddenly they'll leave the kitchen
open for him, and they sure enough,

486
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,039
I'll go and get food for him. And he's the first guy who

487
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:15,239
gave me twenty dollars twenty. I
didn't know who he is. I knew

488
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,000
he was he was important in the
hotel, but I didn't know he was

489
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:22,920
a monster. I didn't know who
is, but I knew I was working

490
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:30,719
for a play for a monster joint
because one of the one of the guard

491
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:37,159
security guard grabbed a hooker and then
from the second floor. The Star does

492
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,599
have the high rise of about eight
story building and they have all these bagelos,

493
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,679
you know, you know, can
you can walk up one two stories

494
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,400
one another for first ground and then
you woke up to the second ground.

495
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:58,039
And he threw a hooker from the
railing from out from the second right into

496
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,679
the top of a car. And
the police came and and I didn't even

497
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,920
take a report. They just I
knew, yes, something. Yeah,

498
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:15,320
they really connected these guys like with
law and order and so nobody could fallow.

499
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:22,840
Do you have any interaction with Spilatro
at all? No, but I

500
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:30,639
I I heard by the time he
was murdered, I was I had my

501
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,199
own pizza place because he I think
they caught him with it was a submarine

502
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,519
sandwich or something. He had sub
marine sandwich. He was coming out of

503
00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:43,480
a sub place or something when he
got shot. Yeah. Well, no,

504
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,559
Spilato they found about him and his
brother's bodies in Indiana. No,

505
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,159
No, it was one of the
other guys who got shot coming down with

506
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,960
the sandwich. I think, yes, No, I never read Yeah,

507
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:08,880
I uh, and but I did
get to know Frank h Roll because I

508
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,320
was interested in the movie business.
I was interested in the TV business.

509
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,960
And then he had his help.
He became the entertainment director of the hotel.

510
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:22,159
They would give him different he was
the food and beverage manager. He

511
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,920
was, you know, so when
then he had his own show. So

512
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,639
when I delivered this Battle of Champagne, he would always order published champagne first

513
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,400
before he gets food. And then
I said, you know, mister Resenthaler,

514
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,880
you know really you know, and
I saw him, you know,

515
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:42,440
tailing a show. I said,
I'm really interested in the film business and

516
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,400
that really is there's anything I can
do to help with the production. And

517
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,599
he said, yeah, let me
introduce you to this guy. Maybe he

518
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:52,639
can help them, you know.
And they were shooting on video videos you

519
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:58,280
know new you know, so so
you know, I said that anything can

520
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,199
help. I said, yeah,
there's not for you to do, but

521
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,119
I will watch. I will watch
them take the show. You know.

522
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:13,280
It was very interested in So now
I bought a house on Charleston and Sunrise,

523
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,880
which is like Charleston Boulder Highway,
for twenty seven five hundred dollars.

524
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,880
I put twenty five hundred dollars down
and my payment was one hundred and seventy

525
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:29,880
dollars. I got a brand new
Pontiac from Sahara and Sahara that Pontiac actually

526
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:36,400
we own piece art. Now you
know that dealership that my brother bought the

527
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,239
cab like dealership. Now, so
anyway, to make a long story short,

528
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:45,960
now I'm really flying high. I
have a couple of jobs, have

529
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:51,199
a housely bedroom, too bad,
living the American dream practically. And then

530
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:57,320
I went to my girlfriend was from
you know, Maryland. We went for

531
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:05,239
Christmas to see her parents. It
was snowing, six feet of snow everywhere.

532
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,519
It was horrible winter. They have. The only thing was open.

533
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:12,320
It was a pizzeria and I used
to go to that pizzeria every day.

534
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,760
We stayed there for five six days
and after the first day, I said,

535
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,840
you know, it's nothing, very
quiet. You don't hear anything,

536
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,760
no street, no no streets,
noise, no cars, snow, just

537
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,239
everybody can just walk in and get
a pizza. And I started, I

538
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,760
said, can I help you making
the door? He was making the dough.

539
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,800
Then I started picking the door with
this guy that I started cooking with

540
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,519
him a little bit I had nothing
to do. After three or four days,

541
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:42,719
five days, I thought, I'm
opening a pizza Vegas. I went

542
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,880
back home, went to Vegas,
sold my house, quit my job,

543
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:53,000
and opened a pizzeri. Okay,
well you needed the money, but from

544
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:55,800
selling the house in order to open
it? Is that why you sold the

545
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,400
house? Yes, I sold the
house. Yeah, and again a big

546
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:04,920
risk. Did you did you think, like, what if it doesn't work,

547
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,519
I'll go broke? Or did that
enter your mind at all? Of

548
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:13,320
course it did. First of all, when I gave my notice at the

549
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:19,199
hotel, two of the guys who
were room service wait or one is don

550
00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:23,519
He was Donnie. He's an Italian
guy. Another one is totally American.

551
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:29,440
His name is Keith, both of
which around fifty fifty five sixty years old.

552
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,519
Whatever they said, Ken, are
you crazy? This is this is

553
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,079
the union job. You're making good
money. What do you know about opening

554
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,480
a business? Are you nuts?
Are you crazy? And I'm looking at

555
00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:45,440
these guys and like, okay,
they've been here twenty years. That's not

556
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,960
what I want to be, you
know. No, it was the reason

557
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:52,400
for me to keep going forward.
Of course, the mission center is Melon

558
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,639
Parkway and Fladida. Well you get
into my pizzeria. Oh yeah, yeah,

559
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,000
I love your Lasagnia there all the
time. So they gave me that

560
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:07,239
the worst location, you know,
because I didn't have any credit to know

561
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,519
any any better. It was the
last one on the shop et c the

562
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:15,880
worst. Across the street from it
is a better bank with the drive through

563
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:20,199
and so you know, you can't
see it from the street. Practically you

564
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,239
can see it look, you know. So so I didn't know anything.

565
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:27,199
I didn't know anything about opening a
business, owning a business. Nothing.

566
00:43:27,639 --> 00:43:30,280
All I knew is I want to
make money. The only way to do

567
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,519
it is you need to go on
your own you can. And the plan

568
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,239
was always I want to make money
so that I can save enough money to

569
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,239
go to la and be in the
movie business. Exactly that plan. It

570
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,360
is one day I want to make
movies. And there's you know. Now

571
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,159
I was comfortable. I owned the
house, and I also I got lucky.

572
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:52,360
That's the only time the cycle of
real estate and in Las Vegas,

573
00:43:53,519 --> 00:43:58,039
you know when I you know,
when I caught it in the right time.

574
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:00,079
Two three years. The house is
worth twenty twenty five thousand dollars more

575
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:06,840
So I sold it for fifty five
thousand from twenty seven five to fifty thousand,

576
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,519
but I had spent two three thousand
dollars on it. I did the

577
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:15,800
backyard, I did some you know, some tiling. I did some work

578
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,559
on it. So now I took
the money from there and put it in

579
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:23,679
the business. About a week before
it opened, at three o'clock in the

580
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,760
morning, I went in there and
they just had to put the sign.

581
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,159
I want to see the sign there. And I saw the sign, and

582
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,079
you know that the pizzeria, you
know, the parking lot. And I

583
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:37,960
sat there and literally start crying and
thinking, what the fuck did you do?

584
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Your idiot? Everybody knows where to
go to lunch every day. They

585
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,960
already know they have their places.
Where am I going to get a hundred

586
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:47,840
people to break even every day?
Is that what you felt like you needed?

587
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,800
You needed one hundred a day to
break even, one hundred people to

588
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,840
to to you know piece, I
needed to do two three hundred dollars a

589
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,320
day. You know too, because
the pizza was a dollar seventy five at

590
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:06,440
the time. When I first of
it's a dollar? Is that a slice?

591
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:09,719
Or that the old pizza? Pizza? The whole pizza. It's a

592
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:15,679
buck seventy five for ten inch,
one seventy five for ten inch, medium

593
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,840
was two seventy five, and large
was three seventy five. And how did

594
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,239
you even know how to cook everything? I mean, I mean you would

595
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,559
help that guy for a couple of
days. And again when you were helping

596
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,480
that guy, you didn't know him
or anything. You were just like,

597
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,280
hey, I'm board, can I
help you? I was the only one

598
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,599
in the pizza yeh, I was
the only one. I started talking to

599
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:42,920
him, where you're from, dad, and start talking talking, talking,

600
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,119
said yeah, I'm bored. Can
I help you do this? He said,

601
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:49,599
okay, So I worked in the
restaurant before, you know, and

602
00:45:49,679 --> 00:45:51,920
he started talking and he said showing
me, and all of a sudden,

603
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,480
I know, you know, you
know how to do it. But when

604
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:59,559
I went back, the only pizza
it was. It was in Las Vegas

605
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:05,199
at the time I munch, it
was Pizza Hut, it was what's the

606
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:14,079
other chain? It wasn't that many
small little pizzaias except for Billa Pizza in

607
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:19,440
the commercial center and Tower of Pizza
on the Strip, Pizza on a Strip,

608
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,480
Billa Pizza. I went, I
had that pizza, and I said,

609
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:28,119
wow, this is a really good
pizza. So so I you know,

610
00:46:28,159 --> 00:46:30,239
I went there at the end of
the day, at the end of

611
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,519
the night, and this guy was, you know, the guy who made

612
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:37,639
the pizza. And I said,
listen, I said, how many a

613
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:40,199
week you work here? So he
told me. I said, I said

614
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:43,599
how much you make in an hour? It's a while. I said,

615
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:46,079
well, I'm opening pizzeria. I
need somebody to help you. He said,

616
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:50,320
I make I think one sixty five
an hour. He told me.

617
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,000
I said, if I pay you
two thars an hour, will you come

618
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:54,840
and work for me a couple of
days a week. He said okay.

619
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,960
So I went in there and he
said, okay, so what's your rest

620
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:07,039
I said, well, you know
my recipe. How do you want to

621
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:08,920
make the dough? You know you
have your room, so I said,

622
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,239
yeah, I do, but I
want to see your recipe first, just

623
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,719
because I like you. So I
said, well, the way we do

624
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,639
it in bill a pizza. But
there's there's there's this, and he said,

625
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,599
okay, this is great. Well
what about the sauce? What do

626
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:23,440
you put in the sauce? I
said, what do you guys do?

627
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,440
So he taught me how to make
pizzas. He opened the pizza for He

628
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,199
opened the pizza for me. You
know, I was paying in two hours,

629
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,280
and I stuck in two twenty five
dollars in an hour. Then I

630
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,880
learned it very quickly, and I
was, you know, really good at

631
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,280
with the customers, you know,
you know, I worked the register and

632
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:51,920
and we decorated it with movie posters, and you remember, you know,

633
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:58,239
I remember I loved the movies and
so on. Now I bought my house.

634
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,599
I sold my house, of course, open a pizza. I bought

635
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:07,079
sixty five thousand dollars home by the
airport, you know, right off easter,

636
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,199
you know, four bedroom to bathpool. I got a brand new car

637
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:19,639
Antiac. You know now now took
off right away, you took off immediately.

638
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,880
For marketing, there's another you know
credit, I really want to give

639
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:28,639
myself to back. Then you can
buy you know, add on TV channel

640
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,119
five and so on for you know, one hundred dollars a spot, fifty

641
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:37,320
dollars a spot. You can buy
an add And I had one thousand dollars

642
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,239
for marketing. And I said,
you know what we're talking about a newspaper

643
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,840
talking. Then I said, you
know what the pizza cost me a doll

644
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,840
to make. I want to make
a thousand. I have one thousand dollars.

645
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:50,840
I want to make a thousand pizzas
and give it away, right,

646
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:53,199
you know, because I believe in
the pizza. I believe. So I

647
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,519
made a thousand, literally a thousand
pizzas, and I took it, took

648
00:48:57,519 --> 00:49:00,760
them around and just give them two
people, and all of a sudden,

649
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,320
you know, it took off,
and then take them to give to people

650
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,880
stations. Go to the apartment building. Anybody knock on the apartment. Here's

651
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:14,159
a pizza. Knock on the apartment. Here's a pizza. Anybody who answered

652
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:16,360
me? Anybody who answered the door? You know, there's a fly.

653
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,639
And we just opened a pizza.
Yeah, here you go, sir.

654
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,719
And then all of a sudden,
you know, start people start, you

655
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,719
know coming in, you know,
wow, you know, so it was

656
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,079
it was then we opened a second
one, you know, and later on

657
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:36,360
we opened the second pizza. But
anyway, that went on when I totally

658
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,480
forgot, you know, moving back
to La for now, just sort of

659
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,119
from the back burner. And then
I learned about the acting school. You

660
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:49,440
know, when I met you,
right, I don't know who. I

661
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,559
think it was Pam, Pam Vixon
who told me about the acting school.

662
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:59,679
I started dating Pam and and then
I went to the acting school just because

663
00:49:59,679 --> 00:50:02,079
I was curious about the film industry
and the film business and so on.

664
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,440
Liked it. Met you at Jerry, Tiffy, met Niche, you know,

665
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:13,519
all these people who became friends.
And then I brought my brother from

666
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:19,920
Syria, Gus, he came,
and somebody from Los Angeles actually came that

667
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:24,159
I met in Los Angeles and told
me he was editing a movie in Los

668
00:50:24,199 --> 00:50:27,960
Angeles. And I said, sure, that's what I want to do.

669
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,920
And that's again when I just pack
again and left everything to Gus and went

670
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:38,920
to Glendale where my apartment in Glendale. Yeah, we both moved to We

671
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:43,119
moved to LA at about the same
time. I think you got there maybe

672
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:47,519
a month before me. And and
yeah, yeah, we both had the

673
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:52,119
same plan. Make a bunch of
money in Vegas, moved to LA and

674
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:57,880
get into the movie business. Yeah, so again went back to the movies,

675
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,039
you know, went to make movies
and the rest is history. Well,

676
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:07,639
okay, so I'm actually, if
you don't mind, I'm going to

677
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:12,599
split this episode into two parts,
and then the second part will be going

678
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:16,239
to La. Okay, well,
there you have it. That is the

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00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:22,880
end of part one of my interview
with the incredible story of Joseph Mehrhee.

680
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:29,559
Come back next time for part two, where we will talk about Joe going

681
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:34,599
to La and getting into the movie
business. If you can leave a review

682
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:37,760
rate the show. If you want
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683
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:43,119
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