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Testes, testes one two, three, testes check check check check check check

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check base space burs burst How low
can you go? What a brother?

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No? Once again? Back is
the incredible? Hey hey, hey,

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hey, base base, base base. How about that conversation. Maybe that's

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a little low ohmated in a medium
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much? Check one two check looks
like I'm proud and loud, but music

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is not flowing. What do we
got here? Oh? What did we

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do? Hey? Oh, music
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like it should. Uh oh force
multiplayer manual play. Hey there it is

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check check check one and two and
three and four. Now I'm way too

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goddamn left and check check check.
We're supposed to be live with the show,

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but minor technical difficulty holding me up
just a moment here, guys,

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But I will make it all happen
to happen, to happen to happen.

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Let's see what can I put on
here, just to give me a testing

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level of some kind of indicator,
and grab a piece of music that is

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copyright free, because the hell with
it. Will leave this stuff all intact

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and let you guys listen to whatever
the hell it is, I'm running were

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appears as though I've got a serious
fade issue. I've got a bit of

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extra loud and an inco consistency in
a connection which is causing my microphone to

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be extremely hot. I got a
wire out of the way, and I

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thought I took care of it last
night, and I did get through the

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show with Mike and Carmine live.
But right now I'm testing live as things

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are not going smoothly. Let's see
can we smooth out the audio issue right

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here? And now it looks like
we can all right now, if that

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is a fairly well balanced piece of
audio. Let's see what happens when let's

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grab another piece of music. It'll
give me some dynamic idea maybe, But

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then again, it's out of Aaron's
weird bucket of tunes, so let's see.

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Probably should put some on that hits
a little harder, bring the microphone

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down a touch on the digital You
can always fade the music down like so

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as well while I'm talking over it. Okay, that appears to be all

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sliding, okay, and we'll grab
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need something else besides this, because
this is not gonna give me any indication

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I did have some death metal up
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tracking ready and waiting in the wings. I don't think I do. Let's

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go get a serious minor cut.
I know I got those. Hey,

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let's see go to be tough.
Where's my network stuff? As I'm just

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talking out loud and I know we're
late, but we are going to be

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live here Friday night open mic.
This is happening again on the I believe

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it's the third day of April twenty
twenty four, allegedly according to that thing

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we call a calendar. And now
I'm gonna do my bad impression of myself

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doing my bad impression of Alex Jones, just to entertain you while I set

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up and assure you that we will
have a live show. And I will

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be grabbing my cos B Pete to
join me momentarily as we get ready to

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baby, and I do a little
Wolfman jack. Now, some of you

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youngin's got no idea the hell that
was. But let's get it on baby,

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because this is the way it rolls
brook w NBC here in New York

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City. How about that? And
now about serious minor, we'll skip through

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the track to get an idea of
dynamic music on o'chelly dot com Radio.

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And this is how the rock and
roll capital of your mind rocks rolls,

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sways and ways and bags all over
the waby gravy that is reality on the

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radio Oh Chilly dot Com revelation through
conversation. Gee, I wouldn't make it.

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I wouldn't make it. I wouldn't
make it. I wouldn't make it.

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I wouldn't make it. I I
wouldn't make it. I wouldn't make

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it. I have it calling me
that. Yeah, the live open mic

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will begin momentarily year at the only
place where revelation for conversation and all that

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good stuff cries out across the nation, o'chilly dot com Radio. I believe

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we're all tested, and I'm gonna
go and get my co host b Pete

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stick around because the sound is about
to get ground round. Let them know,

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out, to let them know,
I'm bringing all shark. Let the

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car rocks from Budlight at the drug
show, I'm bringing all shadow. I

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can care rotsip and bullerlut at the
Drought Shows, the wiest method, the

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world's worst professional pocket tool tip them
like it's two thousand something and Bucker's back

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on tour. You never really want
them to jemmywhere ulcohol turns me into your

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enemies. I go seventy sad with
some anacy. I used to think that

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bottle was the remedy. Picked it
up once or twice after I let it

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go, but finally had to let
it be. I used to roll over

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the five by. She would give
me a left tip for some literacy.

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I mean literally, I figure.
I mean the letter we y'all want chances

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weeks except for stas we learned to
let it go. Oh. I think

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it's ok to have a couple of
heroes. It's okay if fair flaws.

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I wouldn't have stayed sober without Sam
Trip to Zero. I'm talking to Chris

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Raids on the pod. I'm not
lady. He's talking to Charlie Robinson on

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the pods. Good people he influenced
into his age work. Chuck o'chelly.

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Sorry, I haven't done it yet. I'm gonna get you those beats.

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But we the people's influence like drops
of water in the sea, and it's

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sad and so plain. The seed
that blatant lee, the powers that beat.

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They've taken corruption to an incompatibility with
regathering. I got no problem with

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conspiracy and coming in industry, as
long as we stay hard on facts,

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grab no fallacy, go forth with
no malice, casually ghosts produced for years

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stacking up that wise wolf gold.
Ain't you average? G I'm a bastard

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with no mask, but the method
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Already eighteen minutes after the hour of
eight pm Eastern time here on a friar's

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day. Guess what it's the third
day I believe of April twenty twenty four,

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allegedly according to that thing we call
a counter. And I was trying

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to get sound to work and trying
to squeeze things together, and I had

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to use a full fifteen minutes of
time just doing that slightly unreliable wires and

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then things not quite parsing out as
they should. Anyway, do you care

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about this? I don't. Let's
get to the uh. Let's get to

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the actual business of the day.
We are live on this Friar's Day.

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We are gonna take your calls if
you call in, how about that,

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and please join us three one nine
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one nine five two seven five zero
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with sound again. Yeah, okay, so we've got another bad connection among

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my equipment real quick. Now it's
back to normal anyway. Be Pete is

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with me, my co host,
you guys out there joining me as well,

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and thank god, it's probably just
my mic that's given me the real

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trouble. So that means I'll also
be able to produce Aaron Franz at ten

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pm Eastern tonight as we go forward
and do four hours of live radio on

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o'helly dot com. But also,
as I mentioned, my co host b

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Pete is with me. Hopefully he'll
do some talking. And it doesn't matter

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how loud I am if the mic
is not loud at all, huh.

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Anyway, who cares. Let's not
get hung up in it. You can

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bring up any topic you want.
We can talk about the news of the

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day, the social issues of the
year. We can get down on whatever

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it is that's on your mind,
or we can get up on it up

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down sideways. Look, everybody swings
their own way, don't they, And

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uh, we're all gonna test it
out tonight and see as we have the

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round table of ideas tossed about.
Anyway, let's get to it. Like

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I said one more time. Oh, you can also join me by a

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skype Charles dot o'ceelly on Skype.
I will call you into the show if

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you ask me to. And that
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the business three one nine, five
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join us through the regular convention of
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those moods tonight where really I want
to hear something different. Please do anything,

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but don't bore me. Oh was
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thing in that movie what was it
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he first came out with the voice, and uh he was a former marine,

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right, he was a drill sergeant
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recon unit ready and all that kind
of good stuff. Do you remember the

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name of that movie, be Pete, That Clint Eastwood movie where he came

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out with that and he was all
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What about going to Wow. Okay, so B Pete's got a connection

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issue. Heartbreak Ridge. I think
it was called but You're robotic. I'm

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having a microphone. This is gonna
be the way this is tonight, guys,

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so look call in. You can
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Three one nine five seven five zero
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pass at it, because now I
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a sudden. Let's see if your
signal improves here. But a Heartbreak Ridge.

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It might have been called I think
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Yeah, I had oh crap,
Marcius. Somebody played his girlfriend.

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Oh yeah, she was like,
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love interest that helps him out?
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that was a good movie. That
was about our troops in Granada. Yeah,

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that's where it ended up because he, uh he was like a special

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Forces guy or he was a marine
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had gone in and done some dirty
work earlier. I forget what war he

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was supposedly in, but his troops
were all these like young guys who had

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no respect for the you know the
situation. Uh. The one guy was

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like a rock star or whatever.
Pawned his helmet, which, by the

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way, I've never seen that where
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when they're you know, in the
mid Does that actually happen in the military,

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where somebody pawns, like, I
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What did Jacksonville police pick up from
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from the man base, Yeah,
I mean it was well. I give

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you an example. A guy that
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in the country in a series of
barns. He was making good money.

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He got busted one night and while
they were going the other barns that he

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had were all full of antiques.
He dealt in antiques. He would go

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buy a whole estate just to get
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had a good business. Sure well, they had to go in and search

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the barns. So they start searching
all these boxes. He had just come

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back about a week before that from
an auction had and didn't know it,

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but it had three live hand grenades
in it and it was a storage unit

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that he bought and a storage inned
auction submarine had had it live grenades in

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the thing. So yeah, I
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bases all the time. Oh well, see, like I said, I

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understand the concept of like, you
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market. Even where you said the
guy buys up the states, Well,

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people do that all the time.
Where it's like, look, I'll buy

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the contents of the house because they're
selling the house, and I'm going to

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do you a favor. I'll come
and pick up all the stuff and I'll

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take everything in the house. And
that way you don't got to worry about

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what it is. So people then
go through there, you know, deceased

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loved one's house or whatever, and
they go, well, this is the

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only crap of value, and then
they leave everything else that's dishes, drawers

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full of junk, whatever. And
you'd be amazed at the way people will

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turn around and grab up all that
stuff. And some of it goes online

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for sales, some of it goes
back into another type of auction, a

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low rate a state auction, right. And then again they might find some

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collectible stuff that people didn't realize was
worth some money here and there, and

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they take that to a separate place. But You can see these guys at

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any local flea market almost anywhere in
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place where you know people live and
die, Guaranteed there are guys that they

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make a living off of taking care
of you know, what comes out of

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a state sales basically, And if
you live near a retirement community, you've

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got year round business. You know
that. So you know, I'm just

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saying it's one of those things that
happens. And live hand grenades though in

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a box. That's that's great.
The storage thing is another thing. By

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the way, people stop paying on
their storage units. Whether I mean some

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of my audience probably knows this firsthand. You stop paying on your storage unit

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and then they yeah, they put
it up there, Hey buy the contents

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of the storage unit. They made
a TV show out of that, didn't

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they, Storage Wars, That's what
it was. Yeah. So anyway,

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Uh so I'm putting in the chat
room is our live number to join three

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totally unplanned, so I'm not talking
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and the flea market, although I
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We could discuss the news. Was
there any news fit to report this

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week? You know, you be
the judge of that, guys. I

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put out a couple of podcasts,
uh, but I've got more to put

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out later on tonight there's the show
from last night where Carmine Sabastano was on

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and we discussed the the death and
the mythology around uh, sam Gy and

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Kana right anyway, you know,
because people often say, look, he

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was about ready to testify about the
Kennedy case. He was off by the

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agency and this and that, you
might want to take a listen to the

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evidence that Carmine finds and the discussion
that we had, because you know,

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I don't want to spoil it,
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of these Look get over it.
The mob did not kill Kennedy kind of

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guys. But anyway, you can
take the discussion at face value. There

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do I do that during this show? What do we cover during that show?

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Mike Swanson joined us too, which
is unusual because he was on last

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week and he's been doing every other
Thursday. But Mike's not going to be

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around for a little while. Things
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and what's going on. So we
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at least in the June deep into
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so. Anyway, it is what
it is. This is the way things

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are going. But topics all open
any which way you want to go.

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So anything that's on your mind.
If you want to talk to me about

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the latest soft drink flavor you've discovered, because they changed Sprite by the way,

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if you're a Sprite drinker, they
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there. I'm hearing a lot of
interesting comments about you want to talk about

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junk food. You want to talk
about the I don't know what's on sale

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at Burger King and the burger wars
with the restaurants and such. BP Pete

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would know about that, but I
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Maybe there's a new burger innovation in
some way. Maybe there's a new U.

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I know there's some sort of cupcake
pizza out there. Somebody told me,

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but I don't know anything about it. You could call in and talk

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about that. You could call in
and talk about family issues, the plight

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of men in the twenty first century. We can talk about whatever you want,

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transgenderism if you like, and how
it's ruining everything, including your life.

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Even if you're not a transperson,
it doesn't matter. Trump. I

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guess we could talk about I really
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Lots of things. The selection is
still happening, Joe Biden is still

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deranged, you know, the economy
still sucks. Plenty of things to pick

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from. Oh and what do you
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Pete under let's see under b Peat's
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like Kenny Rogers, Am I mistaken? Yeah? Back during his first edition?

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That before it was Kenny Rogers in
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the first edition, So this is
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nineteen seventies or he looks awfully seventies? Issh from the picture I see,

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all the women backup singers had the
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that. Yeah, yeah, okay, anyway, he was hit for his

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time, and you know Kenny Rogers
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Great Entertainer, And he had a
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money, and unfortunately they had to
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It's a shame, but yeah,
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the band that he really got started
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But actually I appreciate it Kenny Rogers
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know, I loved the Gambler,
by the way. I always thought that

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was a great song, a very
simple song. I know, it's very

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blah blah and very it was radio
friendly and atypical for me to love something

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that's radio friendly, but I enjoyed
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was played at the bars and stuff. So let's go to our first caller.

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We got an unidentified caller on the
line. Let's see. Let me

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see if I can lean over and
read the area code. I can.

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It's a three five to two,
and probably I'm thinking this is a repeat

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caller, but I don't have your
name on the caller ID, so apologies,

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three five to two area code.
You're live and bring up anything you

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want. We haven't even gotten into
a groove yet. How you doing?

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Who are you? You know?
Oh? Wait a minute, the voice

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Chris, How you doing tonight?
I'm doing okay, I'm doing Okay.

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What's on your mind? I mean, since you brought it up, I

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mean, just to tie it into
storage and Trump, which I know is

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one of your favorite topics. Did
you hear anything about the remember the illegal

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documents that were supposed to found in
mar Laga. Had you hear that they

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were supposedly delivered to the mar Laga
residence prior to this investigation being fund Okay,

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well, let me get this straight. Yeah, well let me get

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Let me get this straight, because
I am not up on this part of

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the story. What you're telling me
is there's a recent revelation now that these

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things were delivered just before the investigation
was launched. Like, in other words,

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somebody intentionally delivered this to them so
that there would be a reason to

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have an investigation. Is that the
the sorry? What yeah? I said?

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That would be how it chuns?
Yes, sir, okay? And

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what what is the source for this? Are we hearing this from people in

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the Trump camp. Is this a
Fox News exclusive? What are we looking

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at? Where's it coming from?
I was one of the uh, one

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of the members of Congress got yeahs
of Congress got an email from their request

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of documents from the FBI and uh
hand over there handling of this incident.

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And in that email, on FBI
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hey, remember back the GSA,
who Trump always said was responsible for packing

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up all the documents in his office, they did that. They were sitting

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in d C or somewhere around d
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Hey, you got to move these
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You've only got so much time.
Get these things out of our way.

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So they had to arrange from to
be shipped to Marlago. The GSA had

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those documents and have them for some
time after Trump left office, and apparently

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they either didn't check them or they
checked them and said, hey, he

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gets these things, we can go
after them. So now Congress, who's

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overlooking what's going on with the mor
Alogo case, is now starting to ask

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questions. Wait to day an minute, was this a setup all along?

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Because they have found early communications between
the National Archives and Biden's DOJ offices about

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what they were going to do on
this. An FBI agent happen to bring

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up Oh wait a minute, before
you guys get too far into this,

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remember back when you told him he
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a very interesting twist on things now. So what you're telling me is that

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what is referred to as the Government
Services Administration, which to me sounds like

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gobbledygook and a BS title for an
organization. I mean, they are an

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actual arm of the bureaucracy literally,
is telling them to come and get their

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stuff, the stuff that should go
to Trump post administration. He goes and

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picks it up, and somebody in
the FBI realizes, Hey, the sooner

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we get them to pick this stuff
up, the sooner we can actually go

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after him for stuff that we're sending
to him. Is that about right?

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Or well? Or tell him to
come get his stuff, and then later

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on decided to go after him over
the documents because they got wind that he

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had something or had been talking to
some journalist and they decided to go after

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him forgetting that they had the things
in their possession before they they were the

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ones they told them to come get
them, so he kind of defeats their

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whole. Oh you know, you
tried to keep these from us, and

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we requested this and you gave us
nothing but a hassle. But we told

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you to put an extra lock on
the door, which it did, but

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that wasn't enough because somebody decided to
do need to come down here and crack

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on you for this. So we
haven't gotten to the Kammoluda's story behind it,

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but we do know now that the
GSA had and it's talents of boxes,

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not just one or two boxes,
all of his stuff. Because Trump

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has always said, hey, I
want responsible for that. But GSA people

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packed that up and shifted blah blah
blah. So well, come to find

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out, yeah they did, and
they had it, and they told them

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to come get the stuff out of
their way. You got so many days.

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Well, what are the chances,
by the way, that we're just

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not looking at yet another instance of
one part of the government not talking to

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the other part of the government and
therefore, you know, perpetuating the incompetence

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that is generally built into government work. Because I mean, that's another option

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here. Either this is a pre
planned thing and somebody's trying to set them

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up, or it's a matter of
one part of the government doesn't bother to

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rightfully communicate to another part of the
government, what the hell is going on

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with something? Is that a possibility
in this scenario. Lawyers, Yeah,

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a couple of lawyers that have been
following this case. I mean they write

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blogs and their journalists and they've got
law degrees and all, and they're looking

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at it and they're going, hey, you know, this looks like a

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classic setup. Okay, but how
can you go after somebody for possessing documents

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that you had in your possession and
you told him he had to come get

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Well, it's sort of like one
of those scenarios to form the Presidential Library,

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you know, the storm then I
mean, then maybe he'd be so

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credit that seems to be the case. Yeah, Look, that's the thing

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is though he stored them according to
how they wanted, and they went down

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and looked at the documents at Marlago
and then called them up a couple of

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days afterwards and said, oh,
by the way, that room that you

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got, I mean, can you
put an extra lock on the door,

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just you know, as a double
Okay, no problem. So they're in

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a facility that has the Secret Service
in it, overlooking things in a double

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locked room. And it was after
that that they decided, oh wait,

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I think they got win of what
some of the documents he had, some

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of the more personal letters from world
leaders, and they decided, oh,

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that's supposed to be an archives.
And maybe that's when they decided they could

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build a case knowing what he had. Who knows, We'll have to see.

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Well. I mean, I look
no offense to you guys, but

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I mean I'm almost ready to fall
asleep over this as it is. I

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mean, talk about a nothing nothing. It's like, you know, come

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on, no, Liard did nothing. It's a big nothing because it goes

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against the craft that you've been hearing
from the mainstream media for the past two

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years. Yeah, of course,
but see again, because this is a

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frame job. I mean, I
mean, I'm not trying to be a

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buased towards you know, Trump or
anything like that. But a minute,

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if you could see the level of
retaliation that we've witnessed, you know,

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regards to in regards to the controlled
you know, muckingburd media, you know,

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all the bought and paid for a
politician, I mean all these people

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have just they're just they've been doing
nothing but a constant, relentless attack against

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Trump went throughout history. Have we
ever seen such a thing against the you

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know, a former president. And
I understand you guys have a few more

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years on me, you know what
I mean? But I mean just to

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the to the extent in which they
are, they are relentless, will not

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let up. I mean, what
am I messing here? Because it seems

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like this is this is where this
is where Chuck and I disagree. He

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thinks the cases were put together designed
to fall apart. I think it's just

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a matter of massing competence. And
this is a good example of the massing

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competence. When the g s A
had it, they found Trump to get

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it out of their way, so
it gets shipped down to mar Lago and

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then these guys get arrogant and think
they've got a case. I don't think

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it was designed to fall apart.
I think it's there in competence that's and

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these things to fall apart. It
could be could be if it's if the

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if the issue is indeed in confidence, I mean, then I done.

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All the people that work by local
circle K that are more capable of running,

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you know, certain branches of government
than these elected in the absolute.

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The the incompetence thing, being willy
willfully incompetent versus being just incompetent in general

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are two different things, and I'm
sure we could all agree upon that,

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But I see the being willfully incompetent
as the main issue is what's of what's

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going on. I mean, there
are too many politicians that are I don't

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think it's yeah, well, but
I think the people that are getting competent

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have the egos that tell them,
you know, hey, we're in the

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administration. Now, I'm in the
top, I've got power, I work

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for the president, I'm in the
d o J. I can do what

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I want. I can find ways
to through with my boss's opponent in the

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next election. For Browning points,
I think this whole administration because you look

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at the people behind the scenes.
I mean, this is carryover from Obama

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uh his White House that are running
things, and I think they think they're

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so smart and they're so good at
what they do that they overlook exactly how

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stupid some of the moves they make
are. But you see, to accept

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this though, it leads me with
with a serious, serious problem, and

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that is that of this massive amount
of people that want to go after Trump,

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what you're telling me is not a
one among them. Uh seems to

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have the wherewithal to put together anything
that really should stick or that will work.

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Uh. So you got ho.
I think they're trying to set them

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up to I think they're trying to
set them up the fell I'm sorry to

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talk over, but but I think
my my personal opinion, I'll set up

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after that. I believe personally that
they are setting the stage for him.

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I mean you've already seen that.
I'm putting legislative, legislative bills in place.

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You know, the block come from
performance certain actions such as a withdrawal

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funding to Ukraine. I mean,
see, there's there's It's it's hard to

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keep tractive in everything anymore because there's
just too much stuff breaking the news cycle

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every single day. And you know
what I mean, after a certain point,

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you just can't can't retain it all. But I mean they've been putting

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placing builds in place in preparations for
him being president. You've heard other world

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leaders talking as if Trump is going
to be the next the next president.

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I mean they just they in my
opinion, they've been setting the stage,

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setting the narrative that he will indeed
be the next president. But it does

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seem like they are putting all these
little checkpoints in place to make sure that

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he cannot, you know, to
just to make sure that he's stone wall,

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but every every single avenue, you
know, and he is set set

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up the fell. So I would
willingly place a wager that he will become

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the next duly elected president. But
perhaps we will see that's the final fall

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of this economy. I mean,
I'm not trying to be a doom and

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glimmer, but you know, a
doomer or anything like that. But perhaps

408
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.440
we will finally see the fall of
the you know, the United States of

409
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:24.920
America at least financially. Yeah,
well good, that kind of seems what

410
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:32.279
we're we're headed towards. Got I
got you and a lot of people share

411
00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:36.559
that opinion. But you know what, it's a perfect scenario to set up

412
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:39.319
because you know what, Trump is
looking to me like, he's definitely going

413
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:44.200
to be the next president. And
here's the deal. If he fails and

414
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:49.720
everything goes wrong, he can place
all the blame on this stuff. And

415
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.680
that's it. It doesn't matter if
he made a good decision or not.

416
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:54.480
He can place all the blame on
this stuff. But the problem is,

417
00:33:54.960 --> 00:34:00.000
thus far, I don't see a
competent attack against him. It's funny.

418
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.359
It's like, yeah, okay,
the media is on them, but they're

419
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:07.440
also using them because this is the
only reason why people are tuning in is

420
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.000
to watch the drama unfold, okay, and this is what's keeping them alive.

421
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.960
I pointed this out, you know, with twenty sixteen. When that

422
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:20.800
happened, it basically resurrected the business
models of all the digital media, all

423
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:27.079
the broadcast media that was really failing, and that now they had something brand

424
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.199
new that they could run with twenty
four hours a day, seven days a

425
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.320
week. What's going on in the
trumpet sphere? And they did it,

426
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.559
and they did it for years now
you've had Biden in there. And the

427
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.480
fun part is not a single competent
attack. I mean, I don't see

428
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.239
they're not going to make this thing
in New York stick, or they shouldn't.

429
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.079
The thing in Georgia falling apart.
It seems to me like outside of

430
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.519
it being a nuisance, you know, he's on TV every single day,

431
00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:57.920
guaranteed time slot. They're following,
you know, gabble to gabble on his

432
00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:02.679
case in New York. Here we
are, right, his popularity. I

433
00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:07.599
mean that's why they you know,
they pulled that stint with the you know,

434
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.559
him supposedly being barred from attending his
son's graduation. Yeah, but no,

435
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:16.239
which was just recently reversed. I
mean, it's a it's all a

436
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:22.960
big public spectacle. It's a big
public distraction from something, and it's doing

437
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:25.400
exactly what, in my opinion,
it's designed to do, which is raise

438
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:30.920
up his popularity among the people that
are really dedicated to the idea that this

439
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:37.239
is the guy who's fighting the system
and therefore he's on our side because we're

440
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.519
sick of the system. He's sick
of the system, and they're going after

441
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.800
him because he's actually on our side. So you have the guy it's like

442
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:47.440
they're attacking him because they're corrupt,
and that's all there is to it.

443
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.719
And there's absolutely no basis for this, even if there was, but so

444
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:57.960
far they're presenting nothing but weak cases, fabricated nonsense where they're really having to

445
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:02.000
reach to put together the charge is
instead of maybe putting together something that could

446
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:07.360
be, you know, really prosecutable, something that would demonstrate to people once

447
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.960
and for all exactly how corrupt he
has been with his businesses or anything else.

448
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:16.360
They're not doing that. They're putting
together this common If you go after

449
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:19.679
him, you got to go after
the rest of them, you know.

450
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:23.760
I mean, then there that I
can't recount the last president that is an

451
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:27.880
innocent individual, you know what I
mean, that doesn't have to be hung

452
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:30.559
by the neck in my personal opinion, Well, exactly, that's one of

453
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.519
the things. Yeah, that's one
of the big things hanging on this uh

454
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:39.960
immunity uh decision that Supreme Courts deciding
right now. They're worried that if they

455
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:45.360
come out and say he has no
immunity, then you're gonna see people start

456
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:52.360
gearing up lawsuits against Obama for his
driving while drone program and uh probably go

457
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:59.239
all the way back to Bush Bush
and let go. Yeah. Again,

458
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.000
I can't think of a guy that
you couldn't legitimately prosecute for something. But

459
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:07.960
how many of them are ever held
accountable after their administrations? During their administrations?

460
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:10.760
How about zero? So you know
what, I think the same thing's

461
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:15.119
gonna happen here after the big public
spectacle. After a whole lot of hot

462
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:16.480
air, you're gonna end up with
a guy who is, you know,

463
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:22.679
by grievance, been identified as being
on you know, our side. He's

464
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:25.960
with the people because the system is
working against him like it works against us.

465
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:31.079
It's perfect. And he's got constant
twenty four hour you know, broadcast

466
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.480
privileges where they're talking about him,
they're showing clips of them, they're following

467
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:40.280
him to and from court. Social
media that work, yeah, well,

468
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:51.599
which you know, but it succeeds
only because it is a constant grievance machine.

469
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:59.920
That's the thing you know. Today
because the SEC just hit is audit

470
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:05.360
firm for True Social or for Trump
Social Media. They paid something like one

471
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:10.119
hundred and fourteen forty dollars in fines. There's an auditing firm that they say

472
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.719
submitted fraudulent stuff. They didn't do
the audits that they said they did,

473
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:21.480
and it affected over fifteen hundred SEC
filing. So the company has been banned

474
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.800
from being an auditor or an accountant
in front of the SEC. They paid

475
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:30.280
their fine, but they admitted no
wrongdoing. So True Social was down nine

476
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.920
percent today on that news. Yeah, but here's the deal with I don't

477
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:37.719
necessarily trust SEC filings or anything like
that. I mean, if you look

478
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.840
at how they've handled crypto currencies in
the past, the racing pest, and

479
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:45.760
then they've demonstrated that they're really not
a that's worthy organization. Yeah, but

480
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:47.480
here we go with the oh you
look at it. Look at this guy.

481
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.960
Wait, who was the guy Sam
Bankman freed that just got sent to

482
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.639
jail for a minimal amount of time
considering how much money he stole from people,

483
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.320
massive book because he gave a lot
of it to the Democrats up just

484
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:04.280
giving him a slap on the wrist. Well, that's that's what he did.

485
00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:07.800
The Democrats size ball amount of money
too, you know, they did

486
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:12.639
on there were a list of all
of the donners that received money from him.

487
00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:16.480
You know. But here we are. If you're fine on both sides

488
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.719
of you know what I mean,
it's okay, Well look again, cost

489
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.480
of doing business, right, If
you got something that you can build that's

490
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:30.159
going to be worth a billion dollars
and apparently this thing is allegedly worth a

491
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:35.320
whole lot more than that. If
you got something that's worth a billion dollars

492
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.679
and you got to you know,
absorb a fine of how much did you

493
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:43.119
say, one hundred and something thousand? I mean that's nothing. It's like

494
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:49.039
his contempt fine that he's got right, nine thousand dollars for being held in

495
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:53.280
contempt recently, wasn't it. And
it's like, so what if the colly?

496
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:57.519
But if I were Trump, If
I were Trump, I would I

497
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:00.239
heard this today. Somebody had a
great idea. Tell them to go down

498
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.519
to the court with one of those
big oversized checks that you get when you

499
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:07.719
win the lottery and walk in the
courtroom with it and give it to the

500
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:09.760
judge and say, look, here's
twenty thousand bucks. Now, I know

501
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:14.119
I owe you nine, but let's
just keep the other because I probably got

502
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.280
another ten this next week. You're
going to have to hit me with I

503
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:20.800
would just for publicity. Yeah,
since you top down twenty thousand, say

504
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:22.400
here, just put it on my
tab, since you don't have change for

505
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.320
my twenty dollars bill, and I'm
going to put this in the swear jar

506
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:29.360
anyway, how about you just keep
track and you knock it off of the

507
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.800
next swears I'm about to build out
for you. Yeah, of course,

508
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:36.280
because because to tail if they put
him in jail for contempt. You can

509
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:42.119
go. You might as well hold
the election tomorrow because he's that concealed.

510
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:45.480
His fade as winning is if he
ends up going to jail. But there

511
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:51.079
you go. See, how is
it that by being prosecuted, it actually

512
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:55.800
raises his chances of getting in That's
the point of it, though, That's

513
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:00.360
exactly what it is. Support of
the whole thing, though is and that's

514
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.480
where support comes from. He's willing
to give the middle finger to the government.

515
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:07.719
And people have been wanting to give
the middle finger to the governments for

516
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.480
years. And it's the craft.
Yeah, it's the petty craft that people

517
00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:15.679
have to put up with every day. The fine for this, the fee

518
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.559
for being late with that. It's
just it's gotten to the point that people

519
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.519
are saying, hey, I'll vote
for Trump if he flips them off in

520
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:29.239
court. That's all it would take
for a lot of people. Well,

521
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:31.639
again, it's the main character from
three hundred catching all the arrows, you

522
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.760
know, just in on a lot
of people's minds. If you want,

523
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:43.639
personally, I can't. I can't
necessarily disagree with the individual that unfortunately set

524
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.800
them myself on fire, because that's
always been one of my one of my

525
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.559
personal thoughts is, I mean,
if you pay attention to everything's been going

526
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.679
on in this country and also other
Western based civilizations, because you all know

527
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:58.239
that. I mean, it's not
just here in the United States that we're

528
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:01.639
seeing the unraveling over our you know, the fabric of our country, our

529
00:42:01.679 --> 00:42:07.320
countries. You know, we're we're
seeing this on. It's primarily Western based

530
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:14.800
civilizations in which all this is occurring. But it seems like they're driving us

531
00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:17.519
all to you know, they're forcing
the swing to the pendulum, you know,

532
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:22.800
they're forcing it to swing to the
authoritarian right. You know, so

533
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:29.119
we do actually run the risk of
experiencing a full authoritarian dictator type situation in

534
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:34.559
which we will unfortunately, most likely
gladly accept to you know, call me

535
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:39.199
a conspiracy theorists, but in my
crazy mind, that's you know, I

536
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:43.880
can't disagree once again, what the
guy said himself on fire and that's what

537
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:46.800
you know, what his flyer said, you know, yeah, that's what

538
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:51.239
he was educating for, you know, in the stadiums. And yeah,

539
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:52.960
that's been a bout of mine for
a while. Concerning thought of mine,

540
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:59.559
I still have proven differently the beauty
of all this though, is that you

541
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:04.400
guys are totally convinced that it's legitimate
when Stone called Steve Austin takes on Vince

542
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:08.159
McMahon, you know, and and
that's a real fight because you know Stone

543
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:13.119
Cold is going to take over the
WWE. That's pretty much where you guys

544
00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:15.039
are landing here, is that it's
a real thing. And I'm telling you

545
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.440
the bad guy is orchestrated to be
the bad guy. That's the way it

546
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:24.480
is. But that's weird. G
is a real thing. I don't underto.

547
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:30.000
I think your comparison is totally off
the mark. These people that are

548
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.239
doing that are bringing these cases.
A good example of it is in his

549
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:38.840
case in New York over the Stormy
Daniels stuff, her lawyer Cohen or I'm

550
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:45.880
sorry, Trump's lawyer. Cohen at
the time recorded a phone conversation when they

551
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:52.719
were talking about this and setting up
the deal between Daniel's lawyer and Pecker with

552
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:57.480
the National Inquirer on how they were
going to handle this, killing the story

553
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:04.400
and in the conversation and going why
did Cohen record his own client? That's

554
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:07.599
something you never want to do.
Nobody thought this Tate would see the light

555
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.599
of day until the FBI rated Cohen's
office and happened to find it. So

556
00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:15.800
now they're using it now. And
this is what gets me. You have

557
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:20.880
a local prosecutor that now has access
to FBI evidence that they took in another

558
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.440
case, using it in this case, and when they played it in court,

559
00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:30.599
it has basically blown their whole argument. They're trying to show that,

560
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:35.039
yes, Trump talked to Cohen about
this setting up the payments, but what

561
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:39.159
it actually shows is that Cohen was
working with the other lawyer and told Trump

562
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:44.840
we have this handled. You don't
worry about it. We'll take care of

563
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:50.440
this. It's blown a hole in
the case. It's a real thing.

564
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:54.159
I think these prosecutors sat down and
thought they were smart enough to put something

565
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:59.880
together that they could nail him with, and they've gone through the motion.

566
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:02.679
They have gone so far as a
local process secutor to bring in a federal

567
00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:08.639
prosecutor on this because of this convoluted
connection to election fraud and the accounting.

568
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:14.159
After the FEC already looked at this
and said no, there's no case here,

569
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.000
the DJ looked at and said no, there's no case here. Otherwise,

570
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:19.119
you know, damn well, they
would have gone after it if they

571
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.079
could have made a case, but
they didn't. It's real. I think

572
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:27.079
these people are so arrogant that they
think they're so smart that they can pull

573
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.800
this stuff off, and they end
up, just like today, with this

574
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:35.039
tape blown a hole in their own
case. So the comparison with wrestling,

575
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.840
no US guys, don't think that
stone cold Steve Austin is going to be

576
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:45.280
Vince McMahon. You're talking apples and
pliers, not even apples and oranges.

577
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:50.679
It is a real thing, and
people are being affected by what's going on

578
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:54.119
in this real thing, and it's
affecting our election. And if this is

579
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:59.960
the only way they can interfere legally
interfere with the election, you can damn

580
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.760
sure that the Democrats are going to
take advantage of it. Mhm. It's

581
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:07.760
a real thing. Okay, Hey, what can I do? I I

582
00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:10.039
can't. You know, what what
would it take to get you to understand

583
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.239
my side of it? I don't
know. I have no idea how to

584
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:17.320
how to get you to the understand
your side of it because you've not made

585
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:23.880
a cohering connection. You're saying that
all of these things were done to designed

586
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:28.519
to fail. They just want to
keep him busy for a while. That's

587
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:30.960
part of you. No, these
are real things, and they actually think

588
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:32.960
they're smart enough and arrogant enough that
they can put the guy in jail.

589
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:38.599
You know, you want the true
teflon don It wasn't what's his name out

590
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:44.239
of New York is Donald Trump?
M No. I get, you know,

591
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:47.079
I get part I get what the
point that checks trying to make how

592
00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:50.159
legitimately I do, And that's kind
of the point that I was trying to

593
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.840
tie in too. Maybe I did
it poorly, but I mean, you

594
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:54.280
know, sure, I mean this
could all be smoking therrors. I mean,

595
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:57.880
well, I mean everything's smoking marriors. It seems like coming. Yeah,

596
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.239
the whole two party system and it's
all it's all w w W depending

597
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:05.480
on which generation you grew up then, I mean it's all you know,

598
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.000
world wrestling, it's all performers,
theater. I mean there, of course,

599
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:13.639
there's no two party system. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people

600
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:19.440
that aren't awakened to that fact and
that still buy you know, I mean,

601
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:21.960
even all this news about Trump or
you know, I mean, like

602
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.199
everything needs to be taken with the
grain of salt realistically. I mean,

603
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:27.280
it could all be bullshit. You
know, I'm part of my language.

604
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:31.119
I mean everything, you know,
all we can do is just sit,

605
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:37.079
sit back and kind of observe and
see how things unfold. And I mean

606
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:38.679
that's pretty much all we can do, is whether there nothing we can do

607
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:42.039
to the effect they need a degree
of change, you know, other side

608
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.519
from turning to awaken some people,
guys. And even at this point,

609
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:49.960
I don't know if that's enough.
I mean, that's, like I said,

610
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.000
not trying to be a dinner.
But I mean I get I get

611
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.840
both of you points. I really
do, because I can resonate with both

612
00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:01.480
sides. Okay, for which which
side is right? Real? I mean,

613
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:05.599
who the hell knows, you know. I mean we're living in such

614
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:09.559
a clown world, you know,
as the new term goes well, I

615
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:13.800
mean, I'm not a lost of
words anymore so, you know, because

616
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:16.719
at the end that's concerning to have
a young child coming up. That's all

617
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:20.239
I can say. I know,
I got one, and I'm looking at

618
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:23.639
it going you know, this is
just this is beyond ludicrous at this point,

619
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:27.920
and uh not gonna mount so much. Anyway. I'm gonna put you

620
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.119
on hold. I got another caller, so I'll bring him on and let

621
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:32.440
him roll with what he wants to
say. I'm sure he wants to tail

622
00:48:32.480 --> 00:48:36.519
onto this. I do believe I
got Jimmy James on the line. I've

623
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:38.079
been trying to switch over to you, Jimmy, but it took me a

624
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:42.960
few minutes to let everybody get their
points out. So what's on your mind

625
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:47.760
tonight? Can you hear me?
All right? Yeah? Out side of

626
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:54.760
the crackling? Yeah, what you're
crackling? But I hear you good,

627
00:48:54.960 --> 00:49:05.639
So go ahead, Okay, yeah, of course, Uh, it's real.

628
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:13.920
I mean, Chuck, I it's
not just you, it's everyone who

629
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:22.679
claims to be an all an alternative
figure. You're just attacking Trump a different

630
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:30.800
way than the left wing media does
constantly. I wasn't even attacking. I

631
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:34.119
wasn't even attacking you. Know.
What I was saying is that they got

632
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.039
bs on them, they got garbage
on them, they don't have enough to

633
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.719
prosecute them, and they're putting forth
nonsense. I don't see how that's attacking

634
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:49.079
them, because that's what I'm Sayingry, we'll just sutt finished, because it's

635
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:53.559
not even so much you are's so
much everyone that I hear that calls themselves

636
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:59.599
an alternative broadcaster. Well, the
majority of those people that are in that

637
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:01.400
categor right, Jim, Just real
quick, The majority of the people that

638
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:06.440
I think are in that category anymore
are pretty much on the Trump train.

639
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.719
Uh the way I see it,
I don't hear anybody really uh going at

640
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:14.360
him. They they they pretty much
bought into the idea that look at the

641
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:20.239
look at the awful system going after
Donald Trump, who is obviously somebody who's

642
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.519
you know, kind of on our
side. That's really what I'm hearing from

643
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:27.519
the alleged alt media that exists at
this point. Uh, they're on his

644
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:31.039
side. So I don't know where
are these uh anti Trumper alt media people.

645
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:43.199
They're on MBC, CBS. Well
that's not all media, that's not

646
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:50.880
that's not all. But that's not
all. That's not all media. That

647
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:58.760
that's that's mainstream corporate media. Now, normal people have to go through the

648
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:05.880
internet, make their own damn networks. Yeah, well eh, it's time

649
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:12.519
to get real. Let's let's space
it. Uh, this is a socialism

650
00:51:12.679 --> 00:51:17.000
and Marxism at work. You don't
like how the country's running right now?

651
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:25.079
This is exactly this is your Democrat
part of these philosophies of policies and action.

652
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.559
They don't want Trump to stop what
they're up to. And of course

653
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:35.599
the truck ninety six damn cases.
And you don't think that they really want

654
00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.679
to put him in tail? Why
know why they can't find anything real on

655
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:49.079
him? Because he's not a damn
criminal? Okay, well, anyway there

656
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:52.159
that is. But I want to
know where these alt media people are because

657
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:55.039
I said, who are the alt
media? And and you gave me MSNBC,

658
00:51:55.239 --> 00:52:01.559
ABC, that's all corporate. That's
fine, Had Opperman, Cobert,

659
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:07.480
William Ramsey, everyone that I listened
to, every single one of them.

660
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:15.599
I don't listen to Alec whatever his
name is, Jones or whatever. Try

661
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:21.400
to listen to the more reputable people
who claim that they have no agenda.

662
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:27.280
Okay, yet they always end up
having that damn agenda. So Opmanman's weird

663
00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:30.400
politically because I can never really tell
exactly where he's coming from. But he's

664
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:36.400
he's gone anti Trump. You think
Corbett I don't think is anti Trump.

665
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:44.719
He calls himself a socialist. Well
I don't get because Apperman also calls himself

666
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:52.000
a Christian. Do not know the
Marxism does not support religion. Well so

667
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:55.719
socialism and Marxism or not necessarily the
same thing, right, I mean?

668
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:04.719
But look, okay, well Opperman, I can't explain. I'll tell you

669
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.360
that. But Corbett I don't think
is anti Trump. I don't think he

670
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:13.679
is. He's kind of a sort
of anarchist in a way, a polite

671
00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.320
one, but uh, you know, kind of an anarchist like oh again,

672
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:27.800
it seems like every alternative figure who
doesn't support Trump there they're all to

673
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:37.079
the end game. The glorious things
that they say is uh, don't whatever

674
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:39.960
you do, don't vote, don't
participate. It's all rigg. It's alf

675
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:45.719
bated. Read the news. This
will be real good for the country.

676
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:50.639
Don't worry about it. We just
flew in fifty million people to take your

677
00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:57.719
place. Uh, this country's headed
toward a fall. You better pray to

678
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.280
the god of your choice. The
Trump wins, Zeros, there ain't gonna

679
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:07.480
be a country, will be Canada
a buck appearance. Well, I don't

680
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.679
know. It seems like we're doomed
from every angle because you know, if

681
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:15.400
Trump wins, I'm told that he's
going to be so undermined and so under

682
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:20.519
sieged that they're not going to let
him get anything done anyway, and if

683
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.880
Biden wins, and those are really
the only two choices you're goal be allowed

684
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:30.719
to have. Got good. I'm
sorry. I found out why there's some

685
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:37.039
those those rubber duckies now because he's
gonna be a lame duck president did it.

686
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:42.039
That's why last time he had a
strange course. And this time he

687
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:46.440
knows who to bring in that knows
what they're doing, constitutional lawyers. He

688
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:55.320
put fifty years into this. I
believe me, he's the bureaucracy's ninety.

689
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:02.400
Well see here's the pro I'm another
thing. You can't admit the bureaucracy and

690
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:12.920
the Democrat Party are synonymous, and
so we're public unions. They called the

691
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:17.480
Democrats. Well, I can't proclaim
to know much about unions, but it

692
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:23.119
seems to me as though the Democrats
and the Republicans utilize the bureaucracy. You

693
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:25.800
know, they both do. So
I don't know how it is that,

694
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:31.199
Like the Republicans are not included in
the bureaucracy. Seems like they have to

695
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:36.199
be. And it's Trump who sells
rubber ducks. So he's selling rubber ducks

696
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:38.719
because he's going to be a lame
duck president himself. That's what he's doing.

697
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:49.800
Yes, I be surprised, lame
duck. In fact, I think

698
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:53.960
he'd be surprised. How one side
of the for your gureaucracy is real and

699
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:59.480
it ain't leaning rock. Yeah,
and I've only seen that from being working

700
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:04.559
first state agencies and working with other
government agencies, especially federal agencies. They

701
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.679
are in breand with Democrats. That's
how people get their jobs, That's how

702
00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:12.039
people keep their jobs. If you're
not well, let me let me ask

703
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.119
let me especially in the environment.
Okay, well, let me ask an

704
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:17.880
open let me ask an open question. Then, since I'm apparently ignorant of

705
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:23.679
this, if if Republicans try to
get anything done right in the government,

706
00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:29.960
they wind up having to use the
very same facilities that the Democrats use.

707
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:35.679
Right, they have to use the
bureaucracies to get anything done. Uh so

708
00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:38.760
aren't they don't they by default have
to participate with the I mean they don't

709
00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:44.559
have a separate Republican bureaucracy that you
know or by another No, no,

710
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:46.960
no, no, no. What
I'm what I'm talking about is, yeah,

711
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:51.639
when it comes to politicians, they
use the same processes. But once

712
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:55.000
these guys come up with the bill. Then you've got a bunch of bureaucrats

713
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:59.280
that are making the rules on how
the bill is going to be interpreted.

714
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:04.480
And that's where the Democrats do their
best work in coming up. Just look

715
00:57:04.519 --> 00:57:08.800
at Obamacare. Obamacare was voted on
and then the rules were written. That's

716
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:13.920
why Nancy Pelosi said, we have
to pass it to note what's in it,

717
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:19.000
just like this latest bill. You
know, now, I take that

718
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:22.559
back. Remember when Obamacare came along, and I forget who it was that

719
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:28.039
made the comment called Obama a liar
in the State of the Union address,

720
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:34.360
comment that Obamacare would not be available
to illegal aliens, and he was called

721
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:37.159
a liar. Well, come to
find out Biden's administration, these are the

722
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:44.239
people writing the rules that work for
these agencies involved with Obamacare are now rewriting

723
00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:49.800
the regulations to allow it to be
offered to illegal aliens. That's what That's

724
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:54.280
what I mean. Yes, the
government part for the refuls that are in

725
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:59.840
the House and in the Senate have
to use certain procedures, the same ones

726
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:05.360
Democrats used. It's when you start
writing the details and the rules on how

727
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.480
these bills are going to be carried
out where Democrats do their dirtiest work.

728
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:20.480
So well, the problems so much
is representing the working man. The problem

729
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:24.719
is with the eighty percent of the
so called unions. This is insane.

730
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:31.400
We have unions representing people that we're
paying through with our tax money. How

731
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:36.519
about now? And the reason why
they tend to be Democrats, Chuck,

732
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:42.039
is because duh, they're the biggest, They're the new dealers. They're the

733
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:50.840
ones that made and are constantly enlarging
the government. That's the whole crack philosophy

734
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:53.239
this year. So I'm putting you
on hold, Jimmy, because the crackling

735
00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:57.639
is really really super loud, and
that's why I'm putting you on hold.

736
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:00.679
But I want to look at something
real fast, because you're talking about the

737
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.480
unions and I wanted to get a
barometer here. Maybe the crackling will go

738
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:08.320
away if I put you on hold
per minute. But you know, when

739
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:13.480
complaints about unions and how that's a
big problem. It seems to me as

740
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:16.719
though there's only about what's three percent
of all people working in the country at

741
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:22.079
all work for unions something like that. Maybe I'm wrong about the number,

742
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:25.079
though, I want to look it
up. Go ahead, well, yeah,

743
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:30.599
but the problem with unions is this, you have the union leadership which

744
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:35.599
come out and back Biden. Yeah, okay, so they're gonna throw money

745
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:40.719
towards Biden. You have most of
these unions in a lot of these states

746
00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:49.239
work under what's called a forced dues
system, where people cannot elect out of

747
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:52.320
having their dues taken out of their
paychecks. They did this in a few

748
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:57.360
states. They changed the rules saying, okay, now all your union members

749
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:02.119
have the option you can refuse to
have your dues taken straight out of your

750
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:07.159
paychecks. And then that that allows
them to decide whether they want to pay

751
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:10.880
those dues or not, or they
can hold withhold those dues. Intel management,

752
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:15.159
you guys are spending their money in
the wrong place. Now, you've

753
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:21.679
had several unions come out and support
Biden, but you just had Trump in

754
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:25.360
the street with a construction worker who's
a member of unions come out and say,

755
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:30.239
look forget what the leadership says.
Does the rank and file are behind

756
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:34.599
Trump. That's the way it's That's
the way it was with Reagan, that's

757
01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:39.960
the way it is with these other
Republican presidents. That the unions fought forced

758
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:46.039
dues for years until it was taken
down to a state level and they and

759
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:50.559
people started winning who said, look, you know, I have to be

760
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:52.440
a part of this union to have
my job, but I don't appreciate my

761
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:59.039
dues going to support somebody that I
don't support, that doesn't supp So let

762
01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:02.000
me make that shore is whether I'm
going to pay my money. You know,

763
01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:06.440
there's a lot of things that a
lot of funds that these members pay

764
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:09.679
into for certain things, political funds, et cetera, et cetera. And

765
01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:13.519
they wanted to take all this out
as a lump sum, and the members

766
01:01:13.639 --> 01:01:15.840
fought it, and they won in
several states. And that's when the you

767
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:21.199
know, the union started screaming bloody
murder because now, I mean, unions

768
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:25.679
today are nothing more than a money
laundering operation for Democrat donations. And it's

769
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:30.800
been that way for years, for
years of decades, it's been that way.

770
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:35.480
Well even okay, look, let's
let's just say I'm not going to

771
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:37.360
argue any of that, because again, as I said, I'm not,

772
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.239
you know, read in on all
this. I don't know that much about

773
01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:45.440
it, but I do know this
much that the highest number of individuals like

774
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:51.679
this century, the highest percentage of
all US workers in general that belong to

775
01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:55.320
unions at all is twelve percent.
Uh, it's been as low as I

776
01:01:55.440 --> 01:02:00.360
believe five percent, But in the
past century, this is where we're at.

777
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:04.280
Okay, you got between five and
twelve percent. But let's go with

778
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:07.599
the high number, or even call
it ten percent. If you're talking about

779
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:12.880
ten percent of workers the whole country. How much is that ten percent?

780
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:15.840
Well, okay, of the whole
country. There's three hundred and fifty million

781
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:19.199
people here, so ten percent of
that No, no, no, there's

782
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:21.800
thirty five million. None, No, I think that's enough to swing an

783
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:23.079
election. No, no, no, it's not that high an amount of

784
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:27.159
people that that that. You can't
go with the whole population. Not the

785
01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:30.440
whole population is not working. You
got to remember, there's a whole bunch

786
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:32.199
of home. That's what I'm saying. What is the population? What is

787
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:38.360
the working population? Any amount to
five to ten percent of any of whatever

788
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:42.719
that amount is. That's a lot
of people, and more importantly, that's

789
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:45.639
a lot of money. Yeah,
it's like influence elections. Well, I'll

790
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:50.320
answer it. It's like, let's
see, it's like fifteen million people altogether,

791
01:02:50.519 --> 01:02:52.639
Okay, something like a fifteen or
sixteen million. I'm looking at different

792
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:57.800
numbers, different agencies, the US
Labor Department, et cetera, and I'm

793
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:04.119
getting a general mean average here,
and it looks to me like people fifteen

794
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:08.719
sixteen million people you're talking about that
are represented by unions altogether. Again approximately,

795
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:13.679
So I say ten percent, just
say, well, say say five

796
01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:17.679
percent. Ten percent would be one
point five million. Five percent would be

797
01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:22.079
what seven hundred and fifty thousand people
has still a lot of money, and

798
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:24.920
that's enough people to swing an election. Seven hundred and fifty thousand votes.

799
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:29.679
Okay, But again, the rank
and file who are actually going to vote

800
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:34.679
are not necessarily driven by what their
union decides to do, right, I

801
01:03:34.760 --> 01:03:37.519
mean that's true, But their money
is being spent. But here's the deal.

802
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:42.760
It's the money. Yeah, their
money for the leadership is spending his

803
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:46.639
support in Biden. The rank and
file vote for Trump because they look at

804
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:51.920
their paycheck, they look at what
this economy is doing to them. So,

805
01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:55.800
yes, you may have influenced by
the votes, But what is that

806
01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:01.480
money doing. Is that money buying
votes from other groups of people to support

807
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:06.679
Biden? Is that money effectively affecting
how they vote? So even if it's

808
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:11.079
seven hundred and fifty thousand people,
a portion of those are going to vote

809
01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:13.880
Democrat and a portion are going to
vote Republican. Yeah, it's gared,

810
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:16.320
but that money is all spent on
the Democrat side, and how much does

811
01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:21.280
it influence other Democrat votes? Quite
a bit? Okay, we could look

812
01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:25.320
at where the money comes from that
all goes into this, and I mean

813
01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:29.079
the ridiculousness of spending you know,
fifty million dollars on a job that only

814
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.960
pays one hundred thousand dollars a year
and all that kind of stuff. Look,

815
01:04:32.360 --> 01:04:38.719
I'm just saying that unions I don't
think are as big a factor as

816
01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.559
you know, it's not like the
whole everything hinges on that, you know,

817
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:47.320
because again it's yeah, I agree, they're not as big a factor

818
01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:53.480
as they were decades ago, but
they're still a big factor. No fair

819
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:55.800
enough, Look, and there's a
lot of bit. Look look at the

820
01:04:56.320 --> 01:05:00.400
large corporate donors and the super packs
which are formed by you know, we

821
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:01.599
we've talked about it many times,
like what, you know, what were

822
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:04.960
the Koch brothers now only one?
Uh, you know what what was their

823
01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:11.079
level of influence? Right? And
there you're talking about or the Ford Foundation

824
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:13.920
in fact, right, the same
people. Basically, if you take a

825
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.960
listen to a list of you know, this PBS program is brought to you

826
01:05:17.079 --> 01:05:20.880
by and you take a listen to
the people that are you know, paying

827
01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:29.199
for the PBS program. Okay,
Uh guaranteed most of them are huge donors

828
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:33.000
when it comes to political campaigns absolutely
and agendas absolutely, you know so.

829
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:35.599
But but there you habits, So
we could talk about the large I mean,

830
01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:41.199
I would think that the you know, Union as an influential group is

831
01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:45.599
nothing compared to these large corporate donors. Uh. You know when you got

832
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:47.440
like say, Exxon Mobile, which
I always crack up when it's like,

833
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:51.360
you know that you're watching nature shows
and they're sponsored by the oil companies and

834
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:56.840
stuff. I always find that funny. But anyway, or you take a

835
01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:01.760
look at what was that guy with
the huge boring as hell Vietnam Five Nights

836
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:05.800
of Vietnam Ken Burns, right,
the guy who does you know the super

837
01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:12.960
super long documentary is supposed to be
America's greatest documentary filmmaker puts me to sleep,

838
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:17.039
sucker, But anyway, and terrible
terrible Peace on Vietnam. He did

839
01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:21.039
me and Swanson started talking about it. I think we only made it to

840
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:25.519
part three out of five because we
couldn't stand talking about it anymore. It

841
01:06:25.599 --> 01:06:29.440
was ridiculous. They were just massaging
the whole thing to try and make it

842
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:32.239
look like, well, you know, JFK is responsible for this. Lyndon

843
01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:35.960
Johnson was like a poor victim,
you know, got kind of drawn into

844
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:41.360
Vietnam, and I mean, you
know, give me a break, Okay.

845
01:06:42.119 --> 01:06:45.119
Johnson was a pay to play politician
and one of the one of the

846
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:48.239
most prolific criminal politicians ever. You
know, and people go, oh,

847
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:51.679
he's a Democrat. Yeah, yes, or was, but I mean,

848
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:56.119
I don't care what party he was
in. He was going for his It

849
01:06:56.199 --> 01:06:59.840
was about him and his agenda and
trying to produce a legacy. And that's

850
01:06:59.880 --> 01:07:03.000
what he was all about, whether
you're talking about box forty six or you're

851
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:06.159
talking about the bag men that were
still coming to him when he was vice

852
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:13.880
president. He was all about that, okay, creating a legacy and keeping

853
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:17.280
his pockets and his people's pockets full, and making sure his wife had plenty

854
01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:21.599
of TV channels that you owned.
You know, That's what his whole thing

855
01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:27.199
was. And if you don't believe
me. Ladybird owned lots of TV channels

856
01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:30.119
across the country. Go ahead and
take a look at that if you want.

857
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:32.760
It's pretty interesting. But when you
take a look at all the interesting

858
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:38.199
scams and insurance fraud and all kinds
of stuff Johnson was involved in, which,

859
01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:42.039
by the way, all disappeared post
assassination. And again, I'm not

860
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:45.599
one of these guys who blames Johnson
for killing Kennedy. I'm just telling you

861
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:49.400
about his actual criminal activity that we
know about for sure. Well, if

862
01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:54.039
you think about it now. As
much as I disagree with Jim Fetzer,

863
01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:56.840
one point that he always brought out
was, you know, you look at

864
01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:00.039
crime and look at who benefited the
most from it, and the one person

865
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:06.079
who benefited the most from kennedy assassination
was LBJ, plain and simple. So

866
01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:09.840
in the short run, I can't
agree with Fetzer, but he does make

867
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:14.239
a good point. You've got to
look into things and just how connected was

868
01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:16.760
Johnson to the periphery of what went
on when Kennedy was taken out? Right,

869
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:19.239
And he did well in the short
run. Now, in the long

870
01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:24.880
run, his legacy was destroyed.
But you know, stay tuned on that,

871
01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:28.640
right, by the time we get
from nineteen sixty four, I don't

872
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:33.039
know that it was destroyed because all
of the crap that people were flinging out

873
01:08:33.119 --> 01:08:38.720
there, you know, it was
all overshadowed by the passage of the Civil

874
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:42.840
Rights Act, and LBJ took,
you know, credit for that. Even

875
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:47.119
though it was Republicans that voted in
a higher percentage to approve it, LBJ

876
01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:51.119
took advantage of it. And you
know, so no matter what LBJ does,

877
01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:55.079
you can forget trying to down talk
him to a certain degree because he's

878
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:59.800
responsible, according to history, for
the Civil Rights Act. Yeah, right,

879
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:03.319
even though legitimately the guy was not
you know, into the idea really,

880
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:06.640
even though his public face was supposed
to be about that, and he's

881
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:14.039
the champion of these right. I
mean, he flat admitted he was not

882
01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:16.119
ashamed of his racism, but he
said, hey, we want those their

883
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:19.119
votes. We're got to do this. Yeah, of course. I mean,

884
01:09:19.199 --> 01:09:23.600
if you think he was all about
being happy a meeting with you know,

885
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:26.880
doctor King, you know, like, oh, this is a good

886
01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:29.800
thing you're doing, that wasn't what
it was about. It was about strategically,

887
01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:31.520
well, look, that's a pretty
big voting block. That's a big

888
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:35.439
voting block, and I'm sure,
I'm sure he must, you know,

889
01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:39.359
under his breath made the comment that, you know, we were back in

890
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.840
Texas, you'd be parking cars at
this meeting. Yeah, right, exactly

891
01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:45.439
this kind of thing. Or maybe
he did say it out loud and people

892
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.119
ignored it. It doesn't matter,
because again it was people benefiting off of

893
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:51.560
others actions. And well, I
guess I got to sit down with the

894
01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:55.840
devil because I want his due,
you know, And that's the way it

895
01:09:56.039 --> 01:10:01.199
was. So anyway, getting getting
back to the uh topic at hand,

896
01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:03.880
I guess we'll we'll get back around
to the callers, but right now,

897
01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:06.239
I think it's about time for us
to take a break, So I'm gonna

898
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:11.840
do that and hopefully we get uh
Jimmy back on without the crackling noise.

899
01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:15.359
I think he switched phones, so
we'll hear from him again. And I'd

900
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:17.279
love to hear from you. That's
right, you listening, not beat Pete,

901
01:10:17.359 --> 01:10:20.239
not you uh. But you know
we're gonna hear from you some more

902
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:25.359
before the show's over. To we
got at least forty two forty three minutes

903
01:10:25.399 --> 01:10:29.720
left until the Age of Transitions comes
on with Aaron Franz live on Ocelly dot

904
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do you want to know Toddy Baker's
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926
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Barry cancer weapons. Really, I
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927
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It doesn't make me a wagon.
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928
01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:31.199
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938
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:21.840
place and put the Kennedy presidency in
the context of the times, and reveals

939
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:27.840
never before published information about the Cuban
missile crisis. President Kennedy would not have

940
01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:31.640
been assassinated if he had been president
two hundred years ago. His assassination took

941
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:35.560
place in the context of the Cold
War and the rise of the national security

942
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state. Before World War II,
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943
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In the decade that followed, it
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944
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:48.039
Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade
Cuba, but knew that there were short

945
01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:53.600
range missiles on the island armed with
nuclear warheads that they could not destroy because

946
01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:57.359
they were on mobile launchers. Their
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947
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948
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949
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if we don't know, Sid stupid
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952
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coin something I the live open mic
Friday night at ochelly dot com And as

953
01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:30.439
per usual, look, you guys
get to say whatever it is you want

954
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:34.520
if you decide to call in and
enjoin and uh, hey it is what

955
01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:43.600
it is? I guess, Uh
how how how can somebody dispossess others of

956
01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:47.560
a preconceived notion? You know,
lots of things go on here, Lots

957
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:50.600
of things go on here, and
lots of conversations. I mean, I'm

958
01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:55.439
hoping that people are observing this and
getting an idea of what's being said and

959
01:20:55.479 --> 01:21:00.279
what's what's being exchanged here. What
do you think? Do you think that

960
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.039
all of this stuff is legitimately pretty
much? And by the way, you'd

961
01:21:03.079 --> 01:21:08.479
have to believe a lot of what
the corporate media says in order to understand

962
01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:13.960
that they're indeed going after the Trumpster
in a legitimate way. You'd have to

963
01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.439
believe a lot of what they're saying, only in that much you don't have

964
01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:19.640
to be on their side and be
cheering for it. You could be cheering

965
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:24.600
against it. But still that mainstream
media is useful to you. And oh,

966
01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:30.840
by the way, wind loser draw
Trump is useful as content across the

967
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:34.640
board to everybody and alt media.
I argue there is no alt media.

968
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:41.199
Jimmy James says there's some alt media, and he brought up corporate media telling

969
01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:44.600
me about the alt media, but
then he qualified other things further and said,

970
01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:48.000
what about you know Opperman? Opperman
I can't explain politically. I never

971
01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:50.720
could. And you know, he's
a nice guy. I get along with

972
01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:55.279
him. Not everybody does, but
he's in a weird spot where he's like

973
01:21:55.319 --> 01:22:00.439
a socialist but also a Christian but
also you know, he wanted Bernie's Anders

974
01:22:00.520 --> 01:22:05.479
to win. Was he variantly or
you know, vehemently against Donald Trump?

975
01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:10.039
I don't remember that, But then
again, I don't listen to Operaman that

976
01:22:10.159 --> 01:22:14.239
much. I don't think Ramsey's against
Trump, but I think Jimmy James thinks

977
01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:18.279
he is. Anyways, Corbett is
against the general system, you know,

978
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:24.000
not really specifically against Trump. And
the majority of these people that are out

979
01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:28.479
there allegedly is independent speakers their opinions, which, by the way, they

980
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:30.600
think is the most important thing in
the world, whereas I don't think an

981
01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:35.039
opinion is the most important thing.
I think analysis breaking things down, showing

982
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:42.880
people stuff that they're not necessarily seeing
elsewhere that's not readily available across the entire

983
01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:46.840
corporate media stream. That's the usefulness
of independent media, not about you have

984
01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:51.880
a contrarian opinion. Screw the opinion. Let's get to some things that I'm

985
01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:57.560
not being shown elsewhere. Show me
the rare information, show me the real

986
01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:01.760
stuff that's happening that the rest of
corporate media is either hiding or ignoring.

987
01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:08.079
Do that, then you're an independent
media person doing something productive. But generally

988
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:12.319
speaking, all these shows I hear
anymore is let's get on give an opinion

989
01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:15.000
based on a couple of loose facts
that I might have learned on the internet.

990
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:18.359
That's my opinion, my opinion,
my opinion, and now I'm going

991
01:23:18.399 --> 01:23:21.479
to bring on some other people who
agree with my opinion, and let's all

992
01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:28.560
agree together. And that's allt media
anymore. So I don't know. Maybe

993
01:23:28.640 --> 01:23:31.000
alt media is dead. The dinosaur
media should have laid down and died in

994
01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:35.239
twenty sixteen, but it was absolutely
put on life support and has made a

995
01:23:35.319 --> 01:23:41.399
miraculous recovery ever after due to the
fact that they had Trump to kick around.

996
01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:45.640
Now, whether you think the attacks
are legitimate or just a straight business

997
01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:49.640
decision, I'll leave that open to
interpretation, but I think it's clearly a

998
01:23:49.720 --> 01:23:54.960
business decision. If they're not going
to profit from it, regardless of what

999
01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:58.880
their political view is, they're not
going to run with it. They're not

1000
01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:00.439
going to give you the news that
matters. If they can give you the

1001
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:05.079
news that will keep you tuned in, happy to be hating or happy to

1002
01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:10.399
be siding with them, or happy
to be doing something where you're getting your

1003
01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:14.119
opinion echoed back to you. And
that's the thing about the listeners of all

1004
01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:17.399
media anymore. They don't want to
be informed about some rare information something they

1005
01:24:17.479 --> 01:24:21.039
never heard of before. They want
somebody to just agree with their opinion,

1006
01:24:21.119 --> 01:24:26.720
and that's all it's about. So
it's call and response with opinion and agreement.

1007
01:24:27.960 --> 01:24:30.720
And the corporate media as well as
the independent media are doing the same

1008
01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:36.640
dance. I'm trying to avoid that. It's not working too well. Got

1009
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:41.800
to be honest, you know,
I'm not making any great pile of friends

1010
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:45.640
doing it this way. I have
an honest opinion that goes a little bit

1011
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:48.520
into a direction that BP says,
I can't make the case for it,

1012
01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:51.920
But it seems to me as though
the case is obvious. It's right there.

1013
01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:59.359
What can you say whether I'm correct
or not if the result is the

1014
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:03.079
same? Was my analysis bad?
I wonder about that. Maybe it was.

1015
01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:08.199
Maybe I just suck at this.
Maybe I'm just crazy. Maybe and

1016
01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:12.079
it's not about my opinion, but
maybe I'm so warped that I can't connect

1017
01:25:12.119 --> 01:25:15.840
with the reality of the situation anymore. But it seems so unreal to me

1018
01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:19.119
that I can't explain it any other
way except that this is all intentional.

1019
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:26.399
And I think we're going to intentionally
see the anti hero rise. We're gonna

1020
01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:31.119
see Trump reinstalled and win loser draw. He'll blame anything on the deep state,

1021
01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:35.359
the opposition, which goes far beyond
Democrats. Although all the Democrats are

1022
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:39.399
in the deep state, others outside
of the Democrats are part of the deep

1023
01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:44.279
state too, and that's his opposition, and so no matter what he does,

1024
01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:47.439
he now hasn't out. The deep
state was against me. The Democrats

1025
01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:51.760
were against me. These other people
were against me. It's their fault that

1026
01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:57.760
things went bad no matter what decision
I made. So talk about plot armor

1027
01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:01.880
in the story. How is that
not perfect? Anyway? Enough out of

1028
01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:04.279
me. I want to hear from
you, and I want to hear from

1029
01:26:04.319 --> 01:26:09.279
my co host and I i'd love
some new callers three one nine five two

1030
01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:12.800
seven five zero one six, But
even if you called in before or you're

1031
01:26:12.840 --> 01:26:16.079
on hold, We're gonna get around
everybody as quick as I can with the

1032
01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:20.239
last half hour or so. Anyway, b pete, uh, let's see.

1033
01:26:20.399 --> 01:26:23.920
I'm gonna check the board here and
see who's on. It looks like

1034
01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:27.920
we got we got Jimmy and Chris
still, so we don't have anybody new.

1035
01:26:28.119 --> 01:26:30.520
And also Skype, I'm not showing
anybody new. I'm Charles dot o'celly

1036
01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:33.000
on there by the way, And
if you send me a message, I

1037
01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:36.800
can call you into the show from
Skype. But you know what, I

1038
01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:41.199
got no problem just hanging like this
and with my two callers, and I

1039
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:43.640
don't know what should we do next. I leave it to my coast to

1040
01:26:43.760 --> 01:26:45.600
decide. I want him to figure
it out. What should we do with

1041
01:26:45.720 --> 01:26:49.600
the remaining time? Because we're wide
open as far as I'm concerned, And

1042
01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:53.680
I'll give a priority to a new
caller if you show up on the line

1043
01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:56.359
now, I'm gonna put you on
ahead of whatever else is going on.

1044
01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:59.840
But other than that, let's get
to it. Three one nine five two

1045
01:26:59.880 --> 01:27:02.640
seven five zero one six and that
hopefully will be the last time I give

1046
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:05.600
out that number tonight. So be
pete. What should we do now?

1047
01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:09.880
Should we go back around everybody?
Do you want to, you know,

1048
01:27:10.079 --> 01:27:12.560
play anything? You want to bring
up some stuff? What do you want

1049
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:17.920
to do? Well? I don't
know. I've been scanning headlines while you've

1050
01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:21.680
been talking, just looking at what's
going on. We got the Kentucky Derbys

1051
01:27:21.720 --> 01:27:27.119
this weekend, which is the first
step of the Triple Crown, right,

1052
01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:30.600
and there's a twenty to one twenty
one horse. It's the odds are twenty

1053
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:33.479
to one. They're saying has a
good chance to win this thing because of

1054
01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:38.319
positioning, and a lot of people
don't take this into consideration. The two

1055
01:27:39.560 --> 01:27:42.760
the two top horses for this race, one of them has been slammed to

1056
01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:45.560
start on the inside. The other
one is way out at position seventeen on

1057
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:50.039
the outside. So none of these
horses have really run a race where they've

1058
01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:54.920
been more than three links behind.
But they're looking at the guy in position

1059
01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:58.720
number on, a horse in the
position number seven, who is a twenty

1060
01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:00.920
to one shot, but they think
based on his running record, he stands

1061
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:06.279
a good chance of taking this thing. So it'll be interesting to see lot

1062
01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:11.479
of that. The sports news we've
got the hockey playoffs are going now for

1063
01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:15.319
the Stanley Cup. Carolina advanced in
the second round. We're gonna be taken

1064
01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:19.600
on the Rangers. New York best
of that series is trying to move on.

1065
01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:25.119
Baseball is just getting cranked up.
They've already had a lot of arguments

1066
01:28:25.159 --> 01:28:30.000
about the Sorry Empire, and it's
been going on the past couple of seasons.

1067
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:34.560
We'll see if they do something about
that. How's that pitchball? See

1068
01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:39.199
most of the v pete how's that? How's that pitch clock working out?

1069
01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:45.640
In baseball? How's the pitch clock
working out? I've not really kept up

1070
01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:51.920
on that last year. To me, it helps, but but then again,

1071
01:28:53.039 --> 01:28:57.119
it's you know, you're infringing on
what baseball always was. If the

1072
01:28:57.199 --> 01:29:00.680
pitcher wanted to sit there and keep
throwing in the first base or trying to

1073
01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:03.840
pick somebody off, or take his
foot off the rubber and pick his nose,

1074
01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:08.319
you know, I mean, that's
baseball. They're trying. They started

1075
01:29:08.319 --> 01:29:10.880
playing with the rules too much.
It's not even enjoyable anymore for me.

1076
01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:14.560
A lot of it. Okay,
it's a shame. You know, they're

1077
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:17.680
getting away from what baseball was to
try to speed up the game. The

1078
01:29:17.720 --> 01:29:21.920
whole point of baseball is there's no
clock. It's innings. You do what

1079
01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:26.600
you can to get through it.
So this pitch clock, I don't I

1080
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:29.159
don't know. It didn't ever make
sense to me. I hope to get

1081
01:29:29.199 --> 01:29:31.680
rid of it. Well, I
feel that way about the designated hitter.

1082
01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:36.600
I always thought it was extremely valuable
to have to have the pitcher step in

1083
01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:41.399
the box. But you disagree with
me on that. You like the designated

1084
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:45.279
hitter, don't you. I like
it in the American League, and I

1085
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:48.560
think it adds something to the World
Series when they alternate each year whether they're

1086
01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:51.159
going to use the DH or not, or whether they're going to use the

1087
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:56.399
DH in the parks for the American
League and not use it the International league.

1088
01:29:56.560 --> 01:30:00.319
It puts a nice twist on it. But DH, I mean,

1089
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:03.720
the DH is there for one purpose. He's batt and forth, he's clean

1090
01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:06.760
up, you know, load them
up. Let the DH come on and

1091
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:12.039
handle It must have saved your pictures, pictures, I don't know. It

1092
01:30:12.079 --> 01:30:15.039
seems to me that it helps save
their arms and that they're not having to

1093
01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:18.279
get out there and swing a bat, although if they did have to get

1094
01:30:18.279 --> 01:30:20.880
out there and swing a bat,
that it would count on the length of

1095
01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:24.640
time that they're going to be on
the mound because they exhaust themselves and you're

1096
01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:29.279
footing in a relief and the guys
aren't last longer. Who knows. I

1097
01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:32.399
like the DH. I like the
big hit. Everybody loves a danger,

1098
01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:38.039
so now I understand that. But
I've always appreciated the idea that you face

1099
01:30:38.159 --> 01:30:42.960
the consequences if you got to step
in that box and you're partially responsible,

1100
01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:45.680
you know what I mean, Because
otherwise you could do a spectacular job and

1101
01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:48.520
only give up one run, but
the rest of your team can't. You

1102
01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:51.600
know, bat a run in and
you lost, you know what I mean.

1103
01:30:53.079 --> 01:30:56.159
This way, you can actually literally
take your your own fate into your

1104
01:30:56.199 --> 01:30:59.319
hands. As a picture. I
like it. And also if you decide

1105
01:30:59.359 --> 01:31:01.800
to throw it people, which nobody
does anymore, because you know, everybody

1106
01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:06.760
recognizes that they got million dollar investments
in themselves, you know, being on

1107
01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:10.840
the field, they don't. They
don't play like that anymore. Nobody plays

1108
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:13.640
hard like that anymore, you know, Yeah, they do, don't.

1109
01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:16.880
You can't. Don't believe that fallacy
they throw at each other all the time.

1110
01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:20.840
Yes, they do. Well,
I haven't seen it. I haven't

1111
01:31:20.840 --> 01:31:25.239
seen a lot of controversies like that
or you know, bench clearing and stuff

1112
01:31:25.319 --> 01:31:27.760
like. I don't see that happening
as much as it used to. I

1113
01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:32.439
mean, maybe it's my imagination.
Anyway, continue on. I didn't mean

1114
01:31:32.479 --> 01:31:34.720
to interrupt your sport, but I
want to know what you thought about the

1115
01:31:34.760 --> 01:31:38.640
pitch clock, because to me,
that just seems, I don't know,

1116
01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:43.039
like undue pressure on the game then
it. I don't know. I haven't

1117
01:31:43.079 --> 01:31:45.159
watched it since they put it in, and I almost don't want to because

1118
01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:48.279
I'm afraid it's going to be ruined. Yeah, it's like in football,

1119
01:31:48.359 --> 01:31:51.000
they're changing the kickoff rules again.
You know, they want to come up

1120
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:55.399
with this idea where you place you
guys on the line ahead of your kicker,

1121
01:31:56.119 --> 01:31:58.960
or you place your guys all the
way down the field in the area

1122
01:31:59.039 --> 01:32:01.520
that it's going to be received for
your kicker. You know, they've changed

1123
01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:04.600
kickoff rules so many times because guys
keep booting it through the end zone.

1124
01:32:04.600 --> 01:32:06.960
They end up starting on the twenty
So, okay, they change it will

1125
01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:10.520
make it worse. If you boot
it into the end zone, they get

1126
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:14.239
five x yards start on twenty five. You know, football's gotten to the

1127
01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:16.079
point now that you can't kick the
ball, you can't touch quarterback, and

1128
01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:19.399
you got to be careful how you
catch it or you're getting you know,

1129
01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:26.520
some penalty. It's crazy, and
it's every sport is starting to get into

1130
01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:29.319
it. They really haven't gotten into
the basketball that much. I guess that

1131
01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:33.199
one's simple enough that there's really not
a lot to play with there. Well,

1132
01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:36.079
I mean basketball, If you start
screwing with basketball, I mean,

1133
01:32:36.119 --> 01:32:41.359
what would be the point, right? Basketball is about the interplay, the

1134
01:32:41.479 --> 01:32:45.319
interaction, the live action of it. Like That's why I always feel weird

1135
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:47.640
about them saying, oh, there's
a strategy and whatever. It has to

1136
01:32:47.800 --> 01:32:51.560
change every second in basketball. You
know what I mean? You don't have

1137
01:32:51.720 --> 01:32:56.159
setups the way you do in a
lot of other sports where you can.

1138
01:32:56.880 --> 01:33:00.319
It's a it's a got a different
dynamic. It's its own dynamic, you

1139
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:02.439
know what I mean. I've always
I've always wondered why they haven't raised the

1140
01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:08.439
rim now that you know people can
dunk, five foot of eight can dunk.

1141
01:33:08.560 --> 01:33:11.199
I mean, we've got some super
athletes playing out there. We've got

1142
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:15.800
guys Seth Curry, he's known for
three points from midfield. Let's say you

1143
01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:19.960
know he's an artist. He knows
the three point shot, ain't dunk it

1144
01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:24.399
just as good, just as much
as the rest of them. So why

1145
01:33:24.479 --> 01:33:28.000
not raise the rim? Make it
more challenging when your average height is what

1146
01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:30.920
six' nine, But moved a
rim up a little bit. You haven't

1147
01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:34.119
seen them touch that one. Yeah, they are awfully tall, and I

1148
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:38.560
do like hockey as well. Hockey's
but see, they did screw around with

1149
01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:42.119
hockey a little bit. But hockey
is so confusing to a lot of American

1150
01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:45.359
audiences. They don't know it,
but they changed a lot of stuff in

1151
01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:47.520
hockey at one point. I don't
know. Hockey is one of those things

1152
01:33:47.520 --> 01:33:50.880
that you can get away with messing
with I think. But this thing with

1153
01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:55.119
the pitch clock with baseball, I
don't know. It just seems like I

1154
01:33:55.279 --> 01:33:58.479
know there was a problem there with
the game's taking too long, and I

1155
01:33:58.560 --> 01:34:02.039
get it, but it just same
time, you're changing the flow, you

1156
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:04.560
know. I don't know, it's
just to me, it's a little too

1157
01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:08.319
weird. Anyway, let's well,
yeah, go on. Part of the

1158
01:34:08.479 --> 01:34:14.039
problem was the games were taken too
long on TV. The guy sitting in

1159
01:34:14.159 --> 01:34:16.800
the stands is paid for a ticket. He doesn't mind how long the game

1160
01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:21.439
goes on because he's made a commitment
to go and actually attend the game.

1161
01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:26.600
Right he's there at the park because
of what the park does. It's this

1162
01:34:27.239 --> 01:34:30.840
stupid commercialism that is, oh wow, that's taken too much TV time.

1163
01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:32.119
You know, we're losing out.
We're having to pre m programs and move

1164
01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:35.560
them back and slip them back,
which is effecting or advertising. Must screw

1165
01:34:35.680 --> 01:34:40.640
that and the overwhelming majority. Yeah, but the overwhelming majority of people that

1166
01:34:40.680 --> 01:34:43.680
are gonna watch that game are going
to watch it at home. One two.

1167
01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:46.520
That is where their money is.
And if they are running over like,

1168
01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:49.199
there's a lot of people that like, I'll ask him, you want

1169
01:34:49.239 --> 01:34:51.920
to sit down and watch a game
with me, like during the playoffs or

1170
01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:56.760
whatever, and they're not like necessarily
into baseball. They'll watch anything else and

1171
01:34:56.800 --> 01:35:00.079
they go, eh, baseball game
so long, and I go, well,

1172
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:02.600
realistically, an NFL game goes about
the same amount of time. I

1173
01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:05.560
mean, I know it's rigidly timed, but by the time you're done with

1174
01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:10.720
the timeouts, the penalties, the
breaks, honestly, it takes about the

1175
01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:13.840
same amount of time. Anyway,
You've got to commit a good three hours

1176
01:35:13.920 --> 01:35:17.279
to watching a full game, right, and baseball runs about that average.

1177
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:19.680
But I don't know. For some
reason, there's a lot of people that

1178
01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:23.600
are kind of like, nah,
it's too long. You know, it

1179
01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:27.279
takes too long. So I don't
know. But to me, it's a

1180
01:35:27.319 --> 01:35:30.560
different flow, you know, it's
a different mindset, and nothing wrong with

1181
01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:33.279
it. Anyways, Let's keep moving
so that we get to the rest of

1182
01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:38.359
the callers before we're done, or
we get to the callers again before we're

1183
01:35:38.359 --> 01:35:40.920
done. I want to move along. So what else you got in the

1184
01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:43.600
news? I mean, outside of
a little bit of sports. Unless there's

1185
01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:46.920
more sports news, the Triple Crown
and the horse racing, I don't know.

1186
01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:49.920
I could never get into that too
much either. I mean, I

1187
01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:53.960
don't mind betting on it, but
honestly, I don't know. There are

1188
01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:56.640
some people that sort of follow it
and they're not even betting on it,

1189
01:35:56.720 --> 01:35:59.279
So I don't know what the deal
is there. They just I don't know.

1190
01:35:59.399 --> 01:36:01.920
Maybe they just like horses. We
don't. We don't have like a

1191
01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:05.960
proposed winner that's like expected to take
everything this year or something. Right,

1192
01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:12.279
Well, you got a couple of
favorites. There's two listed. Let's see

1193
01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:14.840
if I can pull them up,
and let's see which farms are out of

1194
01:36:15.199 --> 01:36:16.960
the big thing about the Kentucky Derby, well, the Triple Crowd, the

1195
01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:21.159
Belmont State Kentucky Derby, and the
Preakness is the pageant tree that goes along

1196
01:36:21.279 --> 01:36:25.960
with the partying. You know,
horse racing at one time was a big

1197
01:36:26.039 --> 01:36:30.880
money venture, uh for a bunch
of people in Kentucky, and so they

1198
01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:33.600
they built up all this pageant tree
around this race. You've got I think

1199
01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:39.760
that six or seven races before the
actual derby. Uh. You know where

1200
01:36:39.960 --> 01:36:44.359
farms are bringing their horses out trying
to trying to get them some racing exposure

1201
01:36:44.439 --> 01:36:46.560
to move up the ladder so that
maybe they can be in the next uh

1202
01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:51.000
Kentucky Derby. So it's a whole
different mindset, and it's more of a

1203
01:36:51.119 --> 01:36:55.560
party atmosphere. You know, they'll
party for three days for a race that

1204
01:36:55.680 --> 01:37:00.680
takes three minutes. That's the funny
thing about it. Trying to find let's

1205
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:05.319
see where well with about with about
fourteen minutes left, let's go back around

1206
01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:09.000
to Chris if he's got anything he
wants to throw in, and then get

1207
01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:15.159
whoa what happened there? I heard
a loud noise you okay, Yeah,

1208
01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:17.560
I'm fine. I I was sure, okay, no, you're sure like

1209
01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:20.600
blasted through. I don't know.
I got some inconsistent sound issues here.

1210
01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:25.039
It's my stuff. Probably I got
something wrong. I gotta gotta straighten that

1211
01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:27.840
out. But all of a sudden, this really loud noise. I thought

1212
01:37:27.880 --> 01:37:30.840
something happened to you. All right, anyway, let's check with Chris and

1213
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:35.960
let's see what's going on there.
So you're you're there right, yes,

1214
01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:39.920
sir? All right? So anything
else you want to throw in, or

1215
01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:45.880
you want to talk sports, whatever's
on your mind, go ahead. Now

1216
01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:49.319
I'm gonna take something in an entirely
different direction. What is you all opinion

1217
01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:58.920
on the the new registration, uh, the new laws in place sometimes of

1218
01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:05.680
keeping with the electronic ear tags that
was just passed in the last omnibus.

1219
01:38:08.439 --> 01:38:14.520
Do you think that's the farious purposes
behind that or I mean it's just so

1220
01:38:14.760 --> 01:38:17.439
coincidental, you know, the timing
as you know, with the H five

1221
01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:23.800
M one March supposedly cross contaminating with
the you know, the beef cattle industry.

1222
01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:28.880
Are you smarter with what I'm talking
about a little bit? BP?

1223
01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:33.439
Yeah, yeah, this I heard
some guys talking about it here in this

1224
01:38:33.560 --> 01:38:41.319
state because well, cattle is is
one of our one of our agricultural pursuits.

1225
01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:45.720
So it's more hogs and chickens and
turkeys than cattle. But their complaint

1226
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:48.840
is that they're going to be added
costs to the farmer. It will give

1227
01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:53.960
the government that the government wants the
ability to track every cat that goes through

1228
01:38:54.039 --> 01:39:01.119
market, which is I mean,
that's a nice it's a nice, good

1229
01:39:01.159 --> 01:39:03.960
effort, but I don't know that
they're going about it in the right way.

1230
01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:06.560
You know, usually when cattle show
up on the yard, they've got

1231
01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:10.960
a tag in the ear so that
they can identify them. In fact,

1232
01:39:11.039 --> 01:39:15.079
some farmers I heard a story the
other day somebody was talking about they used

1233
01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:19.439
to farm, and their uncle thought
that people were stealing their cows and swapping

1234
01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:24.960
tags in the ears. So he
actually went back to branding as a way

1235
01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:28.279
to identify his so that he can
keep up with him. But it's a

1236
01:39:28.399 --> 01:39:32.880
high cost that they're trying to implement, and a lot of farmers are tired

1237
01:39:32.920 --> 01:39:36.239
of the government coming up with these
policies that just cost them more money and

1238
01:39:36.319 --> 01:39:42.479
more hassle to try to keep up
with the paperwork. Yeah, I don't

1239
01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:46.039
know, it's weird. You don't
think that there's a possibility of the little

1240
01:39:46.039 --> 01:39:49.439
bit something else going on there just
you know, Oh, I think they're

1241
01:39:55.119 --> 01:39:59.640
well, but if there's not at
the moment, there will be. Yeah,

1242
01:39:59.720 --> 01:40:05.720
I I agree with you. They're
up to something. You guys are

1243
01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:10.960
both there's a reason they want to
do this, but they're not giving us

1244
01:40:11.119 --> 01:40:14.439
all the reasons, the ulterior motives
that are not going to mention. And

1245
01:40:14.560 --> 01:40:18.039
I know, having this data and
being able to manipulate it the way government

1246
01:40:18.319 --> 01:40:21.319
is, it's there's going to be
something. The faery has come out of

1247
01:40:21.359 --> 01:40:26.479
it without a doubt. Well,
I'm wondering what it means for uh,

1248
01:40:26.880 --> 01:40:30.359
for for the milk, you know, uh, for for that part of

1249
01:40:30.479 --> 01:40:33.520
the industry, right, because I
mean, this industry has really gotten weird

1250
01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:38.720
over the past few years. There
was a bunch of a bunch of podcasts

1251
01:40:38.760 --> 01:40:42.239
that all of a sudden started coming
out about the beef industry and what's happening,

1252
01:40:42.840 --> 01:40:45.399
uh and them talking about you know, the bird flu and uh,

1253
01:40:45.720 --> 01:40:50.680
you know, more recent problems with
infection, and this was really about trying

1254
01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:55.319
to protect people from uh, you
know, infected beef stocks getting out there,

1255
01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:59.319
so they could figure out where they
came from and shut things down in

1256
01:40:59.479 --> 01:41:02.079
case, you know, some bad
meats started getting to the market, which

1257
01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:04.840
you know, look on the face
of it, seems to be a decent

1258
01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:10.319
endeavor, but at the same time, you wonder what exactly is all going

1259
01:41:10.399 --> 01:41:14.239
to come of this. There's always
the you know, the consequences that are

1260
01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:18.359
never part of the proposal whenever stuff
like this happens, and people in different

1261
01:41:18.359 --> 01:41:24.439
industries always you know, resist this
stuff, sometimes rightfully so and other times,

1262
01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:26.520
I don't know, maybe it's just
they don't want, you know,

1263
01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:29.399
the change, or to try to
adapt to a you know, a new

1264
01:41:29.479 --> 01:41:32.159
price point because they got something new
they got to adapt to that's going to

1265
01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:35.520
cost them, So obviously they're going
to pass along the costs. And how

1266
01:41:35.560 --> 01:41:39.600
do you do that? How do
you adjust for it? You know,

1267
01:41:39.720 --> 01:41:42.159
there's a lot to it. Man. I don't claim to be an expert

1268
01:41:42.239 --> 01:41:49.439
on this either, But what do
you think is the just about I'm just

1269
01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:53.399
about ready to turn to you and
ask you, you know, what is

1270
01:41:53.479 --> 01:41:56.439
it that you think is the nefarious
end of this? What do you think

1271
01:41:56.680 --> 01:42:01.079
is the evil agenda underneath? What? What's your idea about it? Because

1272
01:42:01.399 --> 01:42:05.039
I have, like I'm sort of
lukewarm on this whole thing. What what

1273
01:42:05.239 --> 01:42:12.079
is your thoughts? Hm? You
recall here in any nefarious things about the

1274
01:42:12.119 --> 01:42:18.000
PCR testing. Okay, well,
that's the same they're utilizing the same testing

1275
01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:24.359
methods with our with the the supposed
camp contaminated milk with they're which they're not

1276
01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:30.479
finding like in you know, yeah, complete pathogens. They're they're finding like

1277
01:42:30.600 --> 01:42:32.560
particulates, you know what. They're
climbing. You know, they're kind of

1278
01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:36.439
backtracking a little bit, or at
least they did for a minute. Okay,

1279
01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:43.920
Uh, but you know they're they're
still running with the agenda. It

1280
01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:46.399
seems like, and you know,
I'm you know, like I understand that

1281
01:42:46.600 --> 01:42:50.760
I might tell them a little crady, but once again there's they're they're utilizing

1282
01:42:50.880 --> 01:42:58.159
PCR testing for testing the milk.
And if you understand how faulty that testing

1283
01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:00.760
method is and how you can just
pretty m if you want to find something

1284
01:43:01.119 --> 01:43:05.239
with while using a PCR test,
you can find whatever the hell you want.

1285
01:43:05.359 --> 01:43:10.800
I mean, you amplify it up
in cycles. And the original inventor,

1286
01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:13.800
the original inventor of the PCR test, well, guess what, that

1287
01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:18.720
son of the best masteriously died and
actually came monsteriously died in twenty nineteen,

1288
01:43:19.439 --> 01:43:25.680
you know, prior to the release
of COVID nineteen. You know, whatever

1289
01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:29.680
hell you want to however you want
to phrase it, but that individual conveniently

1290
01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:34.800
died and beforehand was on record,
you know, saying that it was.

1291
01:43:34.880 --> 01:43:38.960
You know, this is not a
perfect This is not a testing method for

1292
01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:42.720
you know, identifying this you know, disease their passage with an individual,

1293
01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:46.800
I mean it was it was intended
for something entirely different. Yeah, if

1294
01:43:46.840 --> 01:43:49.439
you want to find a cancer cell
an individual, you can find a I

1295
01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:53.920
mean, you can find a cancer
shell. I mean every single one of

1296
01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:56.880
us, because we all have cancer
shells. Does this mean would have cancer.

1297
01:43:57.119 --> 01:43:59.680
No, absolutely have a matter of
fact, if you do the right

1298
01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:03.079
time to shoot, if you do
the right kind of tissue test on almost

1299
01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:06.920
everybody's lungs, you could find a
you know, bubonic plague if you wanted

1300
01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:13.800
to the point is that? Look, I want to know because I don't

1301
01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:16.520
understand the connection and maybe again it's
something I missed, but like, what

1302
01:44:16.960 --> 01:44:23.359
is the connection between the tracking specifically
though and the PCR test? I mean,

1303
01:44:24.600 --> 01:44:28.159
are you what did I miss here
regarding the PCR test? Because I

1304
01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:30.640
saw stuff about this and they were
talking about you know, if they come

1305
01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:34.359
up with something, then they'll at
least know what the source was, you

1306
01:44:34.439 --> 01:44:36.920
know, if it comes up I
didn't see. It's sort of like,

1307
01:44:38.079 --> 01:44:40.520
you know, cart or horse,
which one is going first? Here?

1308
01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:44.680
How does this work out that it's
a problem. So somebody decides to do

1309
01:44:44.840 --> 01:44:47.239
that, what would they be doing
it for? To shut down the beef

1310
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:54.920
industry in general or to shut down
specific But you heard I'm sure you've heard

1311
01:44:55.000 --> 01:45:00.479
the words of the guilteds mouth or
gifted courses. Now, however the phrase

1312
01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:04.399
goes, but you know, like
clos class swab originally say you know you'll

1313
01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:09.119
eat eat the bugs, you know. I mean, that's yeah, pretty

1314
01:45:09.199 --> 01:45:15.920
much what in my opinion, really
happen Tom too. That they're blaming cattle

1315
01:45:15.319 --> 01:45:23.039
for this, for you know,
all these over all these greenhouse well yeah,

1316
01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:30.800
make the wall get so much warmer, right, Cattle farmers, cattle

1317
01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:33.840
cattle farts are destroying the uh,
you know, the the O zone or

1318
01:45:33.880 --> 01:45:38.479
whatever you no. Look and but
but here's the thing, when it comes

1319
01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:42.520
to it, there is an environmental
impact to you know, to to ranching

1320
01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:45.119
the cattle. And when you uh, you know, keep areas that are

1321
01:45:45.199 --> 01:45:49.560
just grassland and you don't let them
grow wild, it causes certain things in

1322
01:45:49.680 --> 01:45:54.399
certain areas and stuff. I mean, it's a very complex issue. But

1323
01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:57.960
no, I was just curious you're
you're saying in general though, this this

1324
01:45:58.159 --> 01:46:01.880
is like the uh, let's the
limit eat the beef industry so that people

1325
01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:05.960
are going to have to resort to
something else for the protein. That's the

1326
01:46:06.079 --> 01:46:15.520
idea beef and chicken doesn't just apply
to industrial farmers and applies to just people

1327
01:46:15.600 --> 01:46:21.800
that have a If you have a
you know, uh, member of the

1328
01:46:23.239 --> 01:46:28.239
abovene family that's capable of producing ye, you need to be on the registertion.

1329
01:46:28.359 --> 01:46:30.920
You need to have them tagged.
That way they can track you.

1330
01:46:30.239 --> 01:46:33.960
Okay, well, you know what
back you know what you however you want

1331
01:46:34.000 --> 01:46:36.640
to perceive it, I got you. What's crazy to me is that.

1332
01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:40.479
Honestly, though, I'll tell you
something. I mean, I'm not for

1333
01:46:40.680 --> 01:46:44.600
shutting down the beef industry or anything
like that. I'm you know, I

1334
01:46:44.720 --> 01:46:47.680
eat meat and I don't apologize for
it. Uh, it is what it

1335
01:46:47.880 --> 01:46:51.520
is. And uh. But but
the thing about the chicken industry, though,

1336
01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:55.640
to be honest with you, every
time I turn around and look at

1337
01:46:55.800 --> 01:46:59.319
packaging or the way that they handle
these things, uh, you know,

1338
01:46:59.399 --> 01:47:02.520
the animal amals themselves. Uh,
the way this is done, especially on

1339
01:47:02.680 --> 01:47:08.840
the industrial level, you know,
the commercial farming level. Quite frankly,

1340
01:47:09.079 --> 01:47:14.079
I have a hard time with a
straight face fighting against people that want to

1341
01:47:14.079 --> 01:47:18.000
shut down the chicken industry because I
mean, it just seems to be rather

1342
01:47:18.279 --> 01:47:25.399
badly run. Uh. There is
constant contamination and problems, and they pump

1343
01:47:25.479 --> 01:47:30.239
these animals full of cracks. This
specific chicken breed and this coming from a

1344
01:47:30.279 --> 01:47:32.640
guy they're raised the chickens, you
know, I mean, that's a shit

1345
01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:38.039
what I'm telling them to recall the
actual name of the breed. But there's

1346
01:47:38.039 --> 01:47:41.920
a specific breed of chickens that you
utilize for meatbird production. Yeah, well

1347
01:47:42.039 --> 01:47:45.159
you can turn them, turn them
over an eight weeks, eight weeks,

1348
01:47:45.560 --> 01:47:48.800
that's all. It takes eight weakes
and they get so so, I mean

1349
01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:51.920
all you get to just keep feeding
them and by the end of the day

1350
01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:57.399
weights there. It's a specific breed, and they're not a natural breed.

1351
01:47:57.560 --> 01:48:00.760
I mean, I know I have, yet you know I can't. I

1352
01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:04.159
can't mamber myself to to raise them
either. You know, I raise my

1353
01:48:04.279 --> 01:48:08.880
chickens naturally, you know what I
mean, And I raise natural breeds,

1354
01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:13.399
and I you know, I'll breed
my own chickens too. But no,

1355
01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:15.319
the ones that you're referring to,
I mean, you know, the ones

1356
01:48:15.319 --> 01:48:21.279
that we generally buy in the grocery
stores. That's a species that we've mutilated

1357
01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:27.119
over time, you know, through
genetic mutile manipulation, you know, I

1358
01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:29.640
know, different like chill wahwas or
whatever, you know what I mean.

1359
01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:32.920
Yeah, Well, through genetics.
Right Well, by by they're they're ready

1360
01:48:32.960 --> 01:48:38.000
for harvest by eight weeks, and
by that eight weeks they're they're so fat

1361
01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:42.439
that they can't walk around. They
will eat in place. Yeah, exactly,

1362
01:48:42.760 --> 01:48:45.960
in play. I mean, you
literally have to move them on your

1363
01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:48.479
own. Well see, and that's
and that's the thing I'm blanket on the

1364
01:48:48.520 --> 01:48:53.039
wing industry. Even in the case
okay, look, even in the case

1365
01:48:53.119 --> 01:48:56.239
of like say, pigs and pork
is another one of these things where the

1366
01:48:56.319 --> 01:49:00.239
meat is you know, uh,
is always questionable, it's problematic. Here's

1367
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:04.920
the truth. If pigs were not
contained the way they are, if they

1368
01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:09.479
were wild pigs, you know,
like you know, the old expressions about

1369
01:49:09.479 --> 01:49:12.399
how pigs like root in their own
you know, in their own feces and

1370
01:49:12.479 --> 01:49:15.319
this and that all true, but
it's because of the way they're confined.

1371
01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:19.680
When you have wild pigs, they're
not the same kind of animal. The

1372
01:49:19.760 --> 01:49:24.760
meat doesn't turn out the same way. It's not as dirty. There's a

1373
01:49:24.880 --> 01:49:28.920
proper way to handle chickens and proper
breeds for chickens. But the majority of

1374
01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:32.239
what gets out into the market right
now is a horror show. Between the

1375
01:49:32.319 --> 01:49:35.840
hormones they pump into them. Like
you said, these animals, if they're

1376
01:49:35.840 --> 01:49:41.600
in a condition where they can't walk
and they're just crapping on themselves and sitting

1377
01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:45.680
there waiting for somebody to come along
and please kill me. Because I'm so

1378
01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:48.880
bloated from the garbage that's in my
system and the way I've been bred.

1379
01:49:49.439 --> 01:49:53.319
I mean, it produces meat.
You know, you are what you eat.

1380
01:49:53.359 --> 01:49:57.039
You're eating a you know, a
crippled, horrified, terrible thing.

1381
01:49:57.439 --> 01:50:00.520
And then you wonder why people are
sick from the diets. Chicken is is

1382
01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:05.079
actually I mean again, and I
do eat chicken still, but it's it's

1383
01:50:05.159 --> 01:50:10.159
like a dangerous food the way it's
being produced at this point. So I

1384
01:50:10.239 --> 01:50:13.479
mean, if I already ate one
of my chickens, it's not dangerous you

1385
01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:15.800
And I mean my chickens free range
all day. You know, I'm on

1386
01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:19.600
just under three acres and then my
chicken free range, I believe, you

1387
01:50:19.680 --> 01:50:23.640
know, I give them a little
scratch grains and layer feed, you know

1388
01:50:23.640 --> 01:50:26.199
what I mean, you know,
during the evening time before I lock them

1389
01:50:26.279 --> 01:50:30.640
up, But I mean throughout eight
the morning and afternoon, they're they're running

1390
01:50:30.640 --> 01:50:32.560
around in my yard and they're eating
bugs. You know, they're scratch and

1391
01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:38.359
eating natural stuff. And if a
predator takets amount, and so be it.

1392
01:50:38.520 --> 01:50:40.760
I mean, that's you know,
that's why I kind of you know,

1393
01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:45.199
I always try to over compensate.
And my my, my flock numbers.

1394
01:50:45.239 --> 01:50:46.600
You know what I mean. You
always accommodate for a certain amount of

1395
01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:49.239
loss. You know, it's unfortunate, but it is what it is,

1396
01:50:49.399 --> 01:50:53.520
you know, I mean a dog
or a coyote might come out. My

1397
01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:58.560
birds are all edible, you know, But what percentage? But you're going

1398
01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:02.239
what percentage? Hang on, you
gotta give what percentage of the chicken out

1399
01:51:02.279 --> 01:51:05.880
there on the market? Though?
Do you think is like yours as opposed

1400
01:51:05.880 --> 01:51:10.119
to the other crap I'm talking about, because it is, you know,

1401
01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:16.000
chicken. They you see what I
mean, all Frankenstein mutations of a chicken.

1402
01:51:16.039 --> 01:51:18.920
And then I wouldn't invite eating the
things, right, I mean you

1403
01:51:19.039 --> 01:51:21.960
got so many oh yeah, the
horse, they got so many hormones jumped

1404
01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:26.920
into them, and they've been genetically
modified to where no, hell no,

1405
01:51:27.119 --> 01:51:30.479
I wouldn't want to touch a super
practical point here, and I don't want

1406
01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:32.800
it, right, Chris, I'm
gonna I'm gonna knock you off the line

1407
01:51:32.840 --> 01:51:35.680
for now because I just realized that
we've run out of time, but really

1408
01:51:35.760 --> 01:51:41.880
quickly with this chicken thing? Is
that frankly? Uh? You know again,

1409
01:51:41.960 --> 01:51:44.680
it makes me sick. I'm sure
there are people out there that raise

1410
01:51:44.720 --> 01:51:46.479
decent chickens and all that, and
that's okay, and you're one of them,

1411
01:51:46.560 --> 01:51:49.279
cool, that's great. But the
majority of what's out there on the

1412
01:51:49.359 --> 01:51:54.960
market is so horrifying that I mean, you know, again, we're take

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a look at a breast of a
chicken in a store somewhere, and now

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imagine the rest of that bird.
Uh, these things are not the normal

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size of a chicken. It's there
for efficiency. It's there so you got

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poundage on the meat. You gotta
you know, you got weight on the

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01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:12.399
bird and all that. But frightening
the way these things are being produced.

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01:52:12.479 --> 01:52:15.800
And we're eating this stuff that's being
produced in an unnatural way, and what

1419
01:52:15.880 --> 01:52:19.399
do you expect but unnatural results?
B Pete, We've kind of run out

1420
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of time, but I'm gonna give
you the final word because I just I

1421
01:52:23.119 --> 01:52:25.880
lost the track of the clock there
and here we are at the end.

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01:52:25.960 --> 01:52:30.680
I'm sorry, So go ahead,
man. General information, the organic chicken

1423
01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:34.960
market outlook up to twenty thirty three. They're predicting that by twenty thirty three

1424
01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:40.319
they'll have fourteen point seven percent of
the market with a value of over fourteen

1425
01:52:40.399 --> 01:52:45.840
point five billion, So it is
growing well, good thing, because again,

1426
01:52:45.960 --> 01:52:47.039
even I can't eat the eggs.
I mean, that's the way it

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01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:49.199
is. Jimmy, I'm sorry that
I can get back around to you.

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01:52:49.319 --> 01:52:54.079
I totally ran out of time,
but coming up next on o'chelly dot com

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01:52:54.239 --> 01:52:57.920
will be the Age of Transitions with
Aaron Franz. I want to thank chrispher

1430
01:52:57.960 --> 01:53:00.319
calling in, Jimmy James for calling
in, and you guys for listening.

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01:53:00.520 --> 01:53:04.399
Oh. Also a big thanks to
my co host who is here almost every

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01:53:04.439 --> 01:53:09.439
single week and has been for years. Let's never forget b Pete puts up

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01:53:09.479 --> 01:53:13.800
with me all the time every Friday, so that in and of itself is

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01:53:13.840 --> 01:53:16.560
an accomplishment. Thank you, my
brother. And uh, we're going to

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01:53:16.600 --> 01:53:19.319
get into more stuff as the weeks
go on. I might actually have a

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going to Chuck O'Kelly. He's Chuck
or Shelley. You know it's Chuck or

1437
01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:35.520
Shelley. You are about between Martin
upon the great routine, the eyes of

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01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:40.520
the world out up on you,
the hopes and prayers of liberty loving people

1439
01:53:40.720 --> 01:53:45.960
everywhere, march with him, in
company with our Braid allies and brothers in

1440
01:53:45.159 --> 01:53:49.079
arms on the other front. Your
attack will not see an easy one.

1441
01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:55.000
Your enemy is well trained, well
equipped, and battle heart. He will

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01:53:55.039 --> 01:54:00.560
fight savage, demanded the man.
The tide has turned. The free men

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01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:05.640
of the world are marching together to
ignor it. Good luck, and let

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us all be thking the blessing of
Almighty God upon this great and noble undertaking

