WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:04.919 Welcome everybody. It is time for our opening segment of Uncanny News. News 2 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:08.839 News News. Yes, for those of you who don't know, the Uncanny 3 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:13.960 Experience is an immersive X Men fan convention. It takes place in Minneapolis, 4 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:18.800 Minnesota at the historic Minneapolis Club where we transform it into Xavier Institute, the 5 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:23.199 school for our merry band of mutants. Yes, and there's celebrity and creator 6 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:28.640 panels, cosplay. There's a vendor hall called the Mutant Market, photo opportunities, 7 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:32.320 and an after party in the mansion is so much more. Yes. 8 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:36.359 And so for the news, we've just announced that we are so excited to 9 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:43.439 have cosplayer Michelle Waffle. She is an extraordinary X Men influencer and she will 10 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:48.399 be starring as Dazzler at our event. And Michelle, you know as being 11 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:52.560 a previous guest on our show. Her and Justin Otero were a guest on 12 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:56.719 our podcast. And yeah, you probably know her also from the Hellfire Galawak. 13 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:00.640 That's a pretty cool thing that she co founded with Jordan. Yeah. 14 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.280 She was also featured in Marvel's Becoming x Men video series, which is online 15 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:10.000 right now. Yeah, so join us September twenty eighth and twenty ninth for 16 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:14.840 a radiant showcase of music and light true to Dazzler style. So yeah, 17 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:17.879 she's not going to be singing like our Dazzler did last time, but she 18 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:22.519 will be there as Dazzler during the daytime for everybody to enjoy. 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Indeed, 28 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.719 continuing our news segment the world of X Men comics, there is some exciting 29 00:02:07.759 --> 00:02:12.479 news to share. Of course, we are all excited about X Men ninety 30 00:02:12.479 --> 00:02:15.680 seven, the continuation of X Men the animated series. We have learned that 31 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:20.680 it's going to be coming out in spring of twenty twenty four, so we 32 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:25.000 are eagerly anticipating. And while we are anticipating this show, Marvel Comics has 33 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:30.879 announced that they are going to launch a prequel comic series that leads right into 34 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:34.919 the show, and it's going to be written by none other than Steve Fox, 35 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:38.360 who was a previous guest on this podcast. Yes, we love Steve, 36 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:43.840 and the art's going to be by Salva Espin. Yes, Steve Fox 37 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:47.159 is the writer of the X Men ninety two series that recently came out. 38 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:52.919 He's doing the upcoming Dead x Men, and he did the recent Dark x 39 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:57.840 Men as well. And the official prelude discover what Storm, Jubilee, Wolverine, 40 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:00.080 and the rest of the bloved nineties X Men cast have been up to 41 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:06.960 in the time before their return. Startling revelations here lead directly into the hotly 42 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:09.439 anticipated new series. Fans won't want to miss out. So if you guys 43 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:15.719 are really excited about this animated series, you can't miss this prequel comic series 44 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:17.400 because it's going to be in canon. We got to know the story before 45 00:03:17.520 --> 00:03:23.560 the story actually starts, Yes, but that's our News Today. Everybody on 46 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:29.360 with the show. Hi everybody, This is Chandler and this is Chris and 47 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:46.840 you're listening to X Reeds the podcast. Hello everybody, Welcome to episode one 48 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:51.439 fifteen. We have an exciting issue that we are going to cover for you 49 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:55.199 today because there's a special series about me're on Disney Plus and Hulu. It 50 00:03:55.240 --> 00:04:00.520 is called Echo. If you are a Daredevil fan, you you might know 51 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:03.159 this character well, and if you not, we are so glad to introduce 52 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:08.000 her to you X Men style and you may have seen her, of course 53 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:13.120 in the Hawkeye Disney Plus series. This is where Alana Cox, the or 54 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:18.800 A la Quacox, the actress who portrays Echo. She debuted in the Hawkeye 55 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:24.720 mini series and she is returning for her own solo series as Maya Lopez. 56 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:30.240 And we're really excited about this. Yeah, so I didn't see Hawkeye. 57 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.000 Can you give me some info and backstory about her appearance in Hawkeye? What 58 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.560 did she do? Sure? So she is a henchman of Kingpin. What 59 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:46.399 has happened is Kingpin has convinced Echo that in the comics, he convinces Maya 60 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:53.680 or Echo that Daredevil killed her father. But in MCU he convinced that Hawkeye 61 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:58.600 has killed her father, and so she is a henchman out to do his 62 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:03.279 bidding, commit crimes and get revenge on the death of her father. That's 63 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:08.399 interesting. There's gonna be some other celebrities that are going to be reprising roles 64 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:12.240 and returning a new cast. Some of the standouts I saw were Vincent Diinofrio, 65 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:15.399 who's gonna play Fisk, and Charlie Cox is actually coming back as Daredevil. 66 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:20.519 Yay, Yes, we love him. This is gonna be kind of 67 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:26.519 naughty, kind of scary kind of violence, I assume because it's rated TVMA 68 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:31.000 for mature audiences right well, and this is the first of Marvel's Spotlight series, 69 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:34.040 so it's going to have a new intro. It's a whole new brand 70 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:39.720 for Marvel MCU Disney Plus TV series. So yeah, I believe this is 71 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.199 something that you don't want to miss. It's kind of like the WandaVision that 72 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:45.839 started it all, you know, this is like the series that's going to 73 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:49.759 do a whole new branch in an MCU storytelling. So I think it's a 74 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:54.800 can't miss. It's gonna come on January tenth, I believe, or the 75 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:59.800 ninth January ninth. January ninth. I can't wait. And you know, 76 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:01.519 the story is interesting to me. She has to go back to her hometown 77 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:05.600 to Oklahoma, come to terms of her past. She's going to be reconnecting 78 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:10.079 with her Native American roots, and you know, we're going to see all 79 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:14.600 about her family and community and culture, which I love. Yeah. So 80 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:18.079 in theme with that, we are going to be doing Phoenix Song Echo. 81 00:06:18.319 --> 00:06:24.439 So of course Echo has been a part of the Phoenix Lore, and the 82 00:06:24.480 --> 00:06:27.839 Phoenix lore comes from X Men Comics, so we thought this is a nice 83 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:31.959 little tie in issue to kind of bridge X Men fans into learning more about 84 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:38.399 Echo and Maya Lopez, and here we go. Phoenix Song Echo written by 85 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:42.480 Rebecca Ronhores. You know, she was also the contributing writer to Marvel Comics 86 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.120 Marvel Voices Indigenous Voices number one anthology. Cool. Did you read that one? 87 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.800 Yeah? I did, Actually I own it. Cool. Yeah. 88 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:57.040 The art is by Luca Maresca. He also did the art for Children of 89 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:00.279 the Vault, which is a really cool mini series that just conclude and the 90 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:03.680 art was gorgeous and he drew Cable super sexy, So thank you Luca. 91 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:10.319 Cool. Well, let's set the era. This was published October twentieth of 92 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:14.720 twenty twenty one. This is kind of like around the time of the Trial 93 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:18.319 of Magneto story arc. Oh interesting, And of course we had Leah Williams 94 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:21.920 on who wrote Trial of Magneto. We have a whole episode of her recapping 95 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:29.000 the entire series on our January twenty twenty two episodes. So go back and 96 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.279 find that one. That's a fantastic one. Actually, I really love that 97 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:34.920 one because we brought in the host of a Date with Dateline or podcast Moms 98 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:39.959 and Inspirations for X Reads, and you know, we really get into the 99 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:46.319 trial hardcore on that. So yeah, But let's talk about the top song 100 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:53.040 on October twenty at twenty twenty one, and that was Stay by kid LROI 101 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:59.000 and Justin Bieber. Ooh, it's actually a good song. I like it. 102 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:01.480 It's not something that has a lot of re listen value. But if 103 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:05.240 you haven't heard that song, go find it on YouTube and you will enjoy 104 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.000 it. I re listened to it earlier and I thought it was a bop. 105 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:09.600 I had no idea it was Justin Bieber this whole time, though, 106 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:16.120 crazy Give it a listen. Yeah, Top movie is a movie that I 107 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:22.040 would never watch called Halloween Kills. I watched it. I loved it, 108 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.240 No, thank you. Oh it was great. It was one of those 109 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.720 like nostalgia pieces where they bring back everybody from existence for the franchise and you 110 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.839 don't know who's going to live and who's going to die. And it's Jamie 111 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:35.039 Lee Curtis. You know. I recommend it if you're a Halloween fan. 112 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.240 Really, Well, that's nice. I'm still not going to see it. 113 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:46.840 So so let's get into Phoenix song Echo number one. We'll start with on 114 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:52.360 the cover. Yeah, well this cover was by Corey Smith and Alejandro Sanchez. 115 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:56.240 And what do we see, Chandler, Well, we see Echo front 116 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:01.080 and center, of course, embodied with the new feet Nick's energy that she 117 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:05.840 has, and she's surrounded by her Avengers teammates. We see Thor, iron 118 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:09.080 Man, Black Panther, Captain America, Captain Marvel, and she Hulk. 119 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:15.759 Okay, so these people were not in the issue at all, no misleading. 120 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:18.120 Yeah, I was like, excuse, like, where are all the 121 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:22.159 rest of them? Why? Why was she on the Avengers? I'm not 122 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:26.080 everybody's on the Avengers at some point? Yes, why was she? That's 123 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:28.720 just because everybody's on the Avengers at some point, and there was a She 124 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:35.840 has this photo synthetic ability to copy and mimic things, and so she's like 125 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:43.960 task Master where she can duplicate movement photographically, and the Avengers needed her at 126 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:50.000 one point to step into a role. And I think around this time she 127 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.879 Hulk was leaving and they needed a bruiser because not that she's super strong, 128 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.559 but she's just a she's a combatant, you know, she's up in the 129 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:03.000 up in the action fighting. But they they all got involved in this battle 130 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.440 Royale with the Phoenix Force, and the Phoenix Force gave little bits of itself 131 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.000 to all sorts of different heroes and then they fought it out to see who 132 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.840 would be the new host of the Phoenix. And even though we'll find out 133 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.080 later she lost to nay More, she actually ended up getting the becoming the 134 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:22.279 Phoenix Host. So when she became a Phoenix infused, she got a new 135 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.759 costume because everybody gets a Phoenix cost and when they get the Phoenix powers, 136 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.879 they get the Phoenix glow up. So what do you think of her Phoenix 137 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:37.399 League, Well, it stays true to her fisticuff's lifestyle. She's got her 138 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.000 wrapped wrists and all the way up her arms because she's a she's a puncher 139 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:48.240 and a fighter. And then she has just a simple black pant and black 140 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:56.240 kind of tank top prop top look and the phoenix embellishes the front and looks 141 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:01.200 all phoenix y and bright, and then of course her eyes conic handprint on 142 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.840 her face is done up in phoenix flame. I love it. She looks 143 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:11.320 badass. Yeah, she is badass. She's a really cool character. Speaking 144 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:15.799 of badass, we probably get the most badass panel in the entire comic, 145 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:20.240 in my opinion, because as we turn the page, we see her in 146 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:26.000 all of her glory, flaming everywhere with the flume, and she says, 147 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:31.279 I am the fin ASX. And you know, it's very dramatic in my 148 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:37.279 head because the the dialogue bubble is wuiggly and dramatic and yellow, you know, 149 00:11:37.679 --> 00:11:43.080 yellow bubble with red text. Ooh, we learned that. Of course, 150 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:48.320 when this is happening, that means it is Phoenix talking. Because Phoenix 151 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:52.399 as an entity, of course we know, has a personality of its own, 152 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.440 So Phoenix is kind of jiving with Echo in this I am Phoenix, 153 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:01.679 glorious moment. Now we see a horrific juxtaposition of imagery here, because the 154 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:07.720 next panel below that is somebody that does not deserve the wrath of the Phoenix. 155 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.039 It's a little girl and she's holding a teddy bear and she is scared 156 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:15.639 and she's saying help. And she's in her little room with her kid bed, 157 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:20.639 and the poor elephant and other bear are just getting toasted. She doesn't 158 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:24.679 seem like she's going to put up a fight against the Phoenix force. She 159 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.600 is just a normal little girl. And now we get a close up on 160 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:35.279 Maya's eyes, the Phoenix's eyes. Men is saying, and she says, 161 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:39.720 and I will kill you all. And then the title page, soy, 162 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:45.200 you don't get to know what happens next Phoenix song. Echo just said, 163 00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:50.440 yes, let's go ahead and read the description here to give our audience a 164 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:58.799 little backstory. Born deaf Maya Lopez aka Echo was an otherwise happy child until 165 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:03.039 the Kingpin murdered her father and blamed it on Daredevil, raising Maya as his 166 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.360 own daughter for years. Maya eventually learned the truth, rejected her adopted father, 167 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:13.240 and joined the ranks of superheroes. Thanks to the photographic reflexes that make 168 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.240 her an unparalleled dancer and a hand to hand combat hint. Still, she 169 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:22.360 was the backup, the stealth agent until the Phoenix Force came searching for a 170 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.559 champion. In pitted heroes against one another, it shows Maya as its new 171 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:30.600 host. Even though Maya lost her fight against Anymour. No one really understands 172 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:33.679 why, least of all Maya. But she must have a purpose in this 173 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:39.600 cosmos. Mm Now, something I learned in this that I want to learn 174 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:46.559 more about is the fact that she is an unparalleled dancer. Correct, what 175 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.519 kind of a dancer is she? Chandler? She is an anything dancer because 176 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:54.879 she can mimic anything she sees. So if she watches Ballerina's she could do 177 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:58.720 ballet. She watches hip hop dancers, she could pop in lock. She 178 00:13:58.720 --> 00:14:03.399 could do anything you want because as long as she watches somebody do the dance 179 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:07.559 she can she can mimic it perfectly. Okay, So who's gonna win in 180 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.399 a dance off? Her or Kitty? Oh? Her kitty is not that 181 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:18.200 good. What was Kitty's teacher's name, Stevie Hunter? Was that right? 182 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:24.759 Possibly? Do you think she would beat? I think echoes superability is going 183 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:28.559 to beat everybody. Sorry, I'm not gonna sign with anybody, but unless 184 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:35.840 it's unless they're somehow able to blind her so she can't see the dance, 185 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:39.639 and she can't you know, then use her vision to mimic. Mmmm. 186 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:45.720 She's going to She's going to do everything better and exactly. I wonder how 187 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.480 they're going to incorporate that into the TV series, Like, is she going 188 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:52.919 to have some really kick ass fight scenes that look like a ballet dance or 189 00:14:52.919 --> 00:14:56.360 something? I hope, So that'd be so cool if they incorporate her her 190 00:14:56.480 --> 00:15:00.919 dance history into the new show. Well, we shall see. Mm hmmm. 191 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:05.320 On the next page, we returned to the story. We're in Hell's 192 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:09.720 kitchen, New York City, ten minutes ago before this whole flaming fist that 193 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:15.519 the child happens. Mm hmm. There's a smash as a glass breaks open, 194 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:22.000 snatch as jewels are grabbed, and hurry up as two goons are stealing 195 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:28.639 a jewelry from a jewelry store. Yeah, we see Echo pop into the 196 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:33.320 scene with her fists ablaze, saying hello boys. This whole scene, get 197 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:39.080 her, get her. This whole scene made me like be like what is 198 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:45.799 something as powerful as the Phoenix doing small street crime, Like she's way overpowered 199 00:15:45.840 --> 00:15:50.399 for these dudes. It's crazy. But we address that later once Electra jumps 200 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:52.840 into the scene. But in this moment, I was like, this is 201 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:56.000 silly. It was like, could you imagine Gene as Phoenix just kind of 202 00:15:56.000 --> 00:16:02.039 going and stopping like a per snatcher. Oh no way, she wouldn't even 203 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:07.799 like, she wouldn't even look that direction. Also, I have something about 204 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.639 this Phoenix power so associated with fire, because it seems like she's more of 205 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:18.960 a fire mancer than like a sonic Phoenix force. So I'm not totally up 206 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:23.279 on my Phoenix stuff. I know Phoenix is a bird of fire, and 207 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:27.559 when it is part of Gene, it sonically is making it look like fire, 208 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:30.799 it feels like fire, it's everything fire, but it doesn't actually like 209 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:37.559 burn stuff. So it's very interesting that now it's all very much fire for 210 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:45.080 Echo. Perhaps Maya is using the Phoenix force how she would use it, 211 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:48.919 you know, maybe it's combining with her powers somehow, so in each host 212 00:16:48.960 --> 00:16:55.080 it expresses itself a little bit differently. Maybe did you ever read The X 213 00:16:55.120 --> 00:17:02.240 Men Phoenix five? Yes? Are you kidding? As the Phoenix. Oh 214 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:07.839 my god. I loved seeing that on the con and the convention circuit, 215 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:12.200 the Cause players doing that one, like, oh oh sorry, I mean 216 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:18.559 they all looked good too, like them of course, yeah magic, you 217 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:21.319 know, they all they looked amazing, And I know what they I know 218 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:23.279 the looks. I just don't know the story that well. I just know 219 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:26.720 bits and pieces of it. But did they embody the power differently? Did 220 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:33.000 they each have different manifestations of it? I don't remember the powers, but 221 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:37.359 I do remember that, you know, they were all kind of being tempted 222 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:41.200 by the dark side of the Phoenix power and using the power, you know, 223 00:17:41.279 --> 00:17:47.319 for their own personal glory or fame or whatever. I remember the temptation 224 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:52.640 there, and and that all expressed itself differently. Very Star Wars. Of 225 00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:56.920 course. I don't know. I I got to revisit that one because that 226 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:00.440 maybe we should X read it. Well never, we should we have a 227 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:07.400 podcast where we go back and look at various issues. I hope that the 228 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:11.799 NCU actually, you know, if they did a TV series called, you 229 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:15.759 know, the Phoenix Force, and we got to see all the different characters 230 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:19.359 in the NCU, like you potentially get this force and they have to battle 231 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:25.640 it a lot of fun. Let's uh, let's manifest at least a what 232 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:29.720 if episode? Season three was just announced, so you can get a season 233 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:36.359 three what if Phoenix related episode in the least. So she hoots up her 234 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:40.480 hand and they're all going bag bay babay by firing their guns rapidly, and 235 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:45.759 she has no problem just going I love how she was a little laughed. 236 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:52.000 She doesn't even say ha ha ha. She says, yeah, all of 237 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:57.319 those bullets just you know, collapse to the ground in molten lava, hot 238 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:03.440 as fire. They didn't stand a chance. They didn't even get near echo. 239 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.559 There's a close up on her lips and she says, you're going to 240 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:11.440 have to do better than that. Oh, and then a gun appears behind 241 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:14.799 her head. But I want to know if she can't hear, how does 242 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:18.839 she know a gun is behind her? I guess the click. Maybe she's 243 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.440 a phoenix for she can you know, sense him psychically. My guys, 244 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:25.480 Yes, that's true. I mean here's the thing though, I mean, 245 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:30.240 we were talking about how it manifests differently with different people, but we're covering 246 00:19:30.279 --> 00:19:33.400 issue one and as a little bit of a spoiler, just a little teeny 247 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:37.279 pity one. That's not going to hurt your feelings. I don't think. 248 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.559 I right all the way through issue five because it's a five issue arc, 249 00:19:41.119 --> 00:19:48.680 and I learned about powers about the Phoenix that I had no idea was possible. 250 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.880 Wow, And one of them being is that she can resurrect people from 251 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:56.759 the dead. That makes sense. Yeah, I mean it makes sense to 252 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:02.640 me. I just don't wor call it being done, have you no? 253 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:08.079 Hmmm, well no, uh yes, I'm trying to think now there was 254 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:15.039 Quentin Choir used his slice of the Phoenix force to make Jubilee no longer a 255 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:18.319 vampire, which is not resurrecting from the dead, but it is kind of 256 00:20:18.359 --> 00:20:23.240 making the undead alive again. Hmmm. Anyways, well that's cool. I 257 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:26.720 need maybe I need to read this whole series. I've only read the first 258 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:30.160 issues, Ladies and Gentlemen, so I'm just going in super cold. But 259 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:36.559 this dude that hold up the gun, he's in a bit of trouble because 260 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:42.720 oh yeah, ooh, she said that was rude. She literally melts his 261 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:49.920 gun, melts his arm and then goes whoosh and fries him, burns him 262 00:20:49.960 --> 00:20:56.160 alive into a crisp and a bloody puddle on the floor. M no one 263 00:20:56.240 --> 00:21:06.160 else is planning to be rude? Are they already cowards? She screams, 264 00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:10.279 you can't run for me, don't you Don't you know who I am? 265 00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:15.480 Don't you know? The first time I read this, I was just like 266 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:19.880 her finger up in the air wagging. Don't you know who I am? 267 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:25.960 The Phoenix? I will kill you all? And she is just completely insane 268 00:21:26.039 --> 00:21:30.519 right now, blowing up the total establishment. Everything in the jewelry store is 269 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:34.880 now being fried to a crisp and everything above the jewelry store, which is 270 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:40.279 this apartment where the little girl in the Teddy Bear is trapped amongst the flames 271 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:45.440 because she's screaming help, and it snaps Echo out of her days of Phoenix 272 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:49.359 glory, and she leaps through the ceiling into the girl's bedroom and the girl 273 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:52.880 little girl sees her. She goes, hey, you're on fire. You 274 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:59.640 brought it here. This is all your fault. Stay away from me, 275 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:04.920 Ill go away way from me. So yeah, Echo, it's such a 276 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:11.920 diss because like Echo is realizing that she left up, she did this whole 277 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:17.400 accident, and she has this remorse. But the diss is the fireman comes 278 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:19.319 in here, and the girl is just like, Okay, get rescued by 279 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:26.160 you boy, You're no hero. So yeah, Echo realizes that she has 280 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:30.400 caused the whole building to start on fire, and she says it was an 281 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:34.160 accident. The fire people show up, they save this little girl, and 282 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:40.079 she's a little disarmed by all of this drama that she caused. Again, 283 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:45.160 this whole fire manipulation, I just don't recall Phoenix Force setting buildings on fire, 284 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.599 but again it's different for everybody. She's looking out the window and she's 285 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:52.640 realizing that, oh my god, she needs to be able to control this 286 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:57.640 power because obviously she's out of control. And what kind of avenger burns aman 287 00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:02.960 to death? I really know. First of all, now that we're looking 288 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:04.799 at the back of the outfit, we looked at the cover or when you 289 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:10.240 said this new glow up. So this Phoenix Force emblem on her chest is 290 00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:18.039 actually like a little cape lette that has fringe as a whole like tape in 291 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.839 the back, which I really like. Yeah, it kind of makes it 292 00:23:21.880 --> 00:23:25.799 look as if she has the phoenix feathers flowing behind her. Yeah, it's 293 00:23:25.839 --> 00:23:29.359 super cool. Actually I like that very much. Slinking away, I see 294 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:34.119 says a shadowy figure from the fire escape behind her, glowing moonlight and all, 295 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:38.720 and Echo says, it's like I can smell her arrogance. She continues, 296 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:41.440 I know you're here, Electra, come out where I can read your 297 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:49.599 lips. And here we have it, Electra Nacchios aka Daredevil. I want 298 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:56.799 to say that the Daredevil series of Electra called a Daredevil Woman without Fear, 299 00:23:56.960 --> 00:24:02.599 is actually so good and I feel like it was too short lived. I 300 00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.880 need to like go back into the world when she is Daredevil, because she's 301 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:11.480 an amazing daredevil. Oh yeah, and I had no idea she was Daredevil, 302 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.920 So this is really interesting to see her and all her glory with this 303 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.839 costume. But I did a little bit of digging just to figure out what 304 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.400 happened and how she got there. And there was a period of time where, 305 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:27.079 you know, Matt Murdoch was in jail and Electra came to see him 306 00:24:27.599 --> 00:24:32.559 and she told him about the fist and everything and mentioned that, you know, 307 00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.160 there needed to be a king and a queen or whatever. But Matt 308 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:40.079 was just like no, no, no, no, and shut her down 309 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:44.680 and he didn't trust her and saying that she needed to prove that she was 310 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:47.519 on the side of light and said that she was a good guy. So 311 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:52.319 Elektra was determined to show that she wasn't a killer and she just kind of 312 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.119 took on the mantle of Daredevil. Well, Matt was in jail, so 313 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:00.599 she took on a bunch of threats as Electra. You probably we saw her 314 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:04.480 in the NOL invasion and she took on some of Bull's eye'es clones. And 315 00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.960 after Mac got out of prison, though, they teamed up and they just 316 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:11.119 started protecting the city together. Yeah, they were Bolt Daredevil, so it's 317 00:25:11.160 --> 00:25:15.279 kind of like a Wolverine and Wolverine. Mm hmm. That's fantastic when they 318 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:21.240 team up. Yeah, and tell us about her Luke. Oh, well, 319 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:26.119 of course she's wearing a red and black number of daredevilness her signature look 320 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.839 of red as Electra, you know, and when she had her Ninja outfit 321 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:36.720 on, where the pieces of fabric go between her legs. I don't know 322 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:41.079 how better to describe it. So she's keeping that vibe going. But she's 323 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:47.720 got pants on with Ninja boots, and she has the DD on her chest 324 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:52.359 and she has the Daredevil cowl, but she wears it as like just the 325 00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.720 top of her her head so to speak. It doesn't go all the way 326 00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.039 down her neck like Daredevil's does. And then she's got a flowy scarfee look 327 00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:06.880 going. So she loves movement in her outfit. Yeah, I think she 328 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:12.319 definitely retained her Ninja esque flare. She is there to tell Maya that she 329 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:15.880 is now a criminal and she is causing drama and she needs the hell out, 330 00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:21.960 and she wants to see what it's like to fight the Phoenix. I 331 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.759 don't want to see what it's like to fight the Phoenix who dares be running 332 00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:30.680 in the direction like Avengers, please take care of this, I know. 333 00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:36.200 And Phoenix is like ready to also take out Elektra or Daredevil, whatever you 334 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.960 want to call her. But then Maya is snapped out of it and she 335 00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:44.359 goes, I'm sorry, Daredevil, maybe you're right. I don't belong here, 336 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:49.079 and she flies away, and Deboid does she fly away? She flies 337 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:55.720 and flies and flies, she flies forever. She even flies over Krakoa. 338 00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:02.039 And now we get a little zoom in on who's sees her below? We 339 00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:06.920 see Chamber and he's like, uh, what's that? Forge? And Forge 340 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:11.559 is all like a whole lot of trouble chamber. Yes, this is our 341 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.599 X men ty In of course, because they know the Phoenix Force, They've 342 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.000 dealt with this for years. This is a new thing for the Avengers, 343 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.960 so they're like, let us go, man, splain, what's gonna happen. 344 00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:26.880 Well, somewhere in the Great Plains we see a farmhouse. It looks 345 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:33.839 very uh Mark kenty to me. But oh my gosh, Tiler, there's 346 00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.319 this dude that I don't know why, but I have a major crush on 347 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:44.960 sCOD you to the comic. Oh yeah, yes, he's fixing his bicycle 348 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.400 and he's got the long flowing hair. He's a little bit imagine Dowkin maybe 349 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:53.880 a little bit of that flavor, right, Yeah, yeah, he definitely 350 00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:59.559 has that long hair kind of you know, muscly. Look, well, 351 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:03.119 he's he's the Phoenix forest flying by in the sky and he says, looks 352 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.519 like it's time I better start getting ready. What getting ready is all about? 353 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:12.519 Who knows. But she decides that she's so upset she flies herself to 354 00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:18.039 the moon. I'm so upset, I have to let some time alone on 355 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.319 the moon. On the moon, I would love to do that. That 356 00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:25.279 would be like like cause you know, if I'm ever having a bad moon 357 00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:26.960 and just be like bye, I'm going to the moon. There is a 358 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.480 device on the moon. I'm guessing this is from her, like she brought 359 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.720 it here because she must lying on the floor right, Yeah, I don't 360 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.720 understand that, like if it was just waiting for her there. Well, 361 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:42.319 it is a video scream and it says incoming video call. She's not answering 362 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:48.240 it right away. She's sitting there sulking about everything and a head pops out 363 00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:52.960 of the screen. It's holographic and three D looking, and it is a 364 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:57.920 scary brood, but it's actually a kind and wonderful and beautiful brood that I 365 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:06.039 love. Yeah, Brew like bro but Brew. Yes, he is a 366 00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:10.839 mister smarty Pants of the x Men. I was introduced to him as a 367 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:18.519 student, Like where is he nowadays? He Well, he is the leader 368 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.880 of the brood in a good way. He controls. Yeah I remember now, 369 00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.680 Yes, he ate the King Egg. He became leader of the brood, 370 00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:32.599 and then there was recently through Captain Marvel crossover, there was a brood 371 00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:40.440 storyline of a sect of them that went off of obeying him and started attacking 372 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:44.119 people. But he still maintains control of majority of the population of the Brood. 373 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.880 While you guys, if you want to light in depth history about the 374 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:53.799 Brood, we covered it for ten million years, for five hundred million episodes 375 00:29:53.799 --> 00:30:00.359 and issues back in the earlier days of X read the podcast. Yes, 376 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:06.039 indeed, you know, I always think about this because Brew controls a whole 377 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.440 civilization of those creatures of the Brood and all of these problems that they're having 378 00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:15.680 with sentinels or whatever. I don't know why they'd be like, hey, 379 00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:19.519 hey, Brew, can you just send down a giant swarm of crazy brood 380 00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.119 to take out orchis? You know, can you guys, can you guys 381 00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:26.519 go just push them into the sun or whatever? Like, I don't understand 382 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.880 why they don't utilize the whole army of creatures that he has access to. 383 00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:36.039 But you know, he's the leader of that whole civilization. Why is he 384 00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:40.240 going to throw her bodies at you know a problem? Well, and to 385 00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:45.640 that point, I don't want them to sacrifice themselves, but they should at 386 00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.359 least battle. You know, they there were a menace enough for the X 387 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.279 Men. Now they can be allies and you know, have a bit of 388 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:57.559 redemption. But no right now. The the dilemma, of course, being 389 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:03.640 that Cyclops wants to eradicate them and Gene does not. I just want to 390 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.440 see Brew and all of his glories sitting on a throne having a crown on 391 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.920 his head. Yeah, you know, doing Kingley and princely things. Mm 392 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:17.319 hmmm, well, gosh, does does he get to have like a Brew 393 00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:23.119 queen? I don't think so. Maybe maybe i'd be interesting because yeah, 394 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:26.960 I okay, I take it back. I love Brew. I hate the 395 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:33.279 brood, correct. I don't like the Brud. I don't like the Brude 396 00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:34.880 at all. They're scary. But I just love Brew. And if you 397 00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.160 read more into Brew, I'm sure you're gonna love him too. Well, 398 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:42.759 he says, Echo, are you there. We've got a situation. Hey, 399 00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:47.400 Brue, what's up. I'm getting a weird psionic signal from the middle 400 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:51.119 of the Pacific. It kind of looks like your energy signature. I think 401 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.519 you should take a look mine. You're sure, Maybe someone else should check 402 00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:59.400 it out, just in case someone better. There is no one better if 403 00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:05.079 it's Phoenix related, Maya, you're the only qualified one. I'm on it. 404 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.319 She has a bit of an internal dilemma about how she doesn't feel like 405 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:13.079 she's valuable, but she has to redeem herself after she completely torched that poor 406 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.680 villain that was just trying to take some jewels, and she says, I'm 407 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:22.160 on it. So she catapults herself back to Earth and zooms right into this 408 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:28.119 island. M h. But the island is ruined. There is like dead 409 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:32.319 rottet fish all over the land. The trees are all like scarched, scarched, 410 00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:40.359 scorched the trees. The trees are all scorched, and the land is 411 00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:46.119 desolate. And on top of this looks like I don't know mechanical thing. 412 00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:52.599 There is a structure and it's forged, and he's waving at her. Yes, 413 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:58.559 it's an extement. Hello, Hello, I want to tell me what 414 00:32:58.599 --> 00:33:02.160 you've got there, and who are you. I'm Forge, one of the 415 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:07.839 x Men, and I'm here to save you. I've never needed saving less 416 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:15.559 in my life. Yeah. So Forge kind of explains that she doesn't understand 417 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:22.079 the power that she's packing, but he does. He explains that she carries 418 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:27.839 the most powerful force in the universe, capable of great destruction and the Phoenix 419 00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.519 Force should it be trifled with. Yeah, and she's like, what is 420 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.000 this place. She's like, don't you recognize it? Phoenix? So she's 421 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.240 like, my name is Echo, not Phoenix, and I didn't do this, 422 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:42.599 did I? And then she realizes she did do this because she is 423 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:47.799 Phoenix there now, So all the Phoenix stuff is her drama, her dirty 424 00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:53.519 laundry. She's kind of realizing that, oh crap, I torched Easter Island. 425 00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:59.240 Yeah. I just had to give a little quick funny shout out because 426 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:07.279 things like, is Forge man explaining me? But yeah, I that look 427 00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:13.639 of realization in her eyes, just her that really close up emotional image. 428 00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:17.119 Her eyebrows are upturned, her eyes are filled with the flames, and you 429 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:23.960 could just sense the sheer utter horror that she realizes in that moment in this 430 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:29.199 very you know, close up shot in this panel. So kudos to the 431 00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.639 artist absolutely. So Forge is just like, all right, it seems like 432 00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:37.360 you might need to have a little bit of a history lesson here. So 433 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:42.920 he invites her into the structure that he was sitting on, and it looks 434 00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.800 as if there are television screens everywhere, and she is shocked because on each 435 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:51.920 of the screens we see a different tableau of the effects of the Phoenix force. 436 00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:57.559 Yes, this is your life. And you know we see a planet 437 00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:00.639 exploding, which is super dramatic on the left, and on the right we 438 00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:07.719 see the Avengers battling the Phoenix five, which would be alluded to earlier. 439 00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:12.239 Mm hmmm. And who's that in the middle Chandler, Goblin Queen of course, 440 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.440 Madeline. Prior so much darkness and destruction, so many souls lost, 441 00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:22.039 people had been loved, who had hopes and dreams, families, an entire 442 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:27.159 planet. This is the power of the Phoenix. So now you get it, 443 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.800 you understand why brought you here. The power is simply too dangerous. 444 00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:36.639 You must give it up, and I can help you do that. Wait, 445 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.960 give it up. It's that simple. Huh. You ax men think 446 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.599 you know everything. Well you don't know me. I'm not Jean Gray and 447 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:49.480 I don't need you to control me. Ooh Jean Burn already yeah, growing 448 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:54.199 under the bus of course, Gene. No. But Forge is just like 449 00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:58.760 you know, I wish we could have did it the easy way, but 450 00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:06.119 now we're gonna have to do it the hall hard away. Zippal ah. 451 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:10.679 She gets zepped and tied it to the chair, well, not so much 452 00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.639 tied to the chair, but she gets stuck in a sonic state where her 453 00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:21.000 mind is kind of not allowing her to function, and therefore the Phoenix Force 454 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:25.800 can't take over. Yeah, Borge is really crafty with his weapons. He 455 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:29.599 had to go through a lot of legs to be able to get something that 456 00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:36.119 can subdue the Phoenix Force. So he's gonna have her held until he can 457 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:42.320 study the powers more and understand how the Phoenix bonds with its hosts and how 458 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:46.000 to uncouple it. Yeah, but he buries the structure. How does he 459 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:52.079 do that? Just like he clicked the button? You know, He's like, 460 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:55.840 do the thing machine I made because I can do anything. Well, 461 00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.199 Forge, you're kind of an asshole because you buried somebody alon and that's scary. 462 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:09.960 Yes, well does there chum chum chum kaboom, pity the girl kaboom. 463 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.119 I cannot be contained by the likes of you. You really think you 464 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:23.840 can control the Phoenix with your little gun and your cage? That's your Phoenix 465 00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:30.239 voice. You're lucky. I don't burn you where you stand for these insults, 466 00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:35.639 but that would only prove your point and I'm nobody's morality tale. Goodbye, 467 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.440 X men. We won't meet again and foo. She's gone, okay, 468 00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:45.320 So you know, if they if I see Phoenix on screen somewhere, 469 00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:52.800 I want Phoenix to have this voice, very Shakespearean. It's a little it's 470 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.039 a little storm, it's a little you know, it's got it's got drama 471 00:37:57.079 --> 00:38:00.920 to it. Echo's gonna let Forge live. Thank God, we like, 472 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:05.519 we love Forge. Forge is a hot daddy, and I don't want him 473 00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:10.440 to get you know, fried alive. But he vows that next time he's 474 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:15.239 going to have a bigger gun at a better cage, and Echo will not 475 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:22.880 see him coming. Mm hmmm. So she flies away and she goes to 476 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:30.000 the Great Plains area that we saw the gentleman fixing his motorcycle with earlier. 477 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:35.800 And it is called the res It's in all nations, welcome if you behave. 478 00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:40.599 So this is not a reservation for a single tribe or single community. 479 00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:46.639 It is for anyone who has lost their family, lost their tribe, lost 480 00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.400 their language, lost their culture, so that they can all join together in 481 00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:59.679 a conglomerate of First Nations, Native American kind of you know culture. Well, 482 00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:04.280 she is walking through town and you know it's a populated city, there's 483 00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:08.960 people about. She comes across an auto mechanic place, and oh, yes, 484 00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:16.039 this hunky man that was working on the motorcycle is now underneath this sports 485 00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:21.079 car that is gorgeous, working away. And she's all like, excuse me, 486 00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:24.039 I'm looking for someone. Maybe you can help. And he wheels out 487 00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:31.000 and he's got his tank top on showing his bare arms giving muscle giving mug 488 00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:37.239 ah, his hair up and a hand bun. Oh my gosh, she's 489 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.800 so dreamy. She's looking for the chief and he's like, yeah, I 490 00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:43.519 know him, and she goes, oh okay, oh that was easy. 491 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:52.519 It turns out that the chief is this dude's grandfather, and he's all like, 492 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:54.679 uh yeah, if you want to see him, you can go to 493 00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:59.800 the cemetery, all right, because he's dead. He did, he did, 494 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.440 but you know what, he likes visitors, so you know, have 495 00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:12.000 at thee. Yeah what you got me inspired to be Shakespearean for some reason. 496 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:16.000 Now my recap is all Shakespearean. Well, she says she'll go, 497 00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.880 and he goes, oh wait, baby, maybe I can help, and 498 00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.119 she's like, oh, are you a medicine man? No, but I 499 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:24.199 know a few things and a friend told me you were coming. And she's 500 00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:29.559 like, oh, who's your friend. Oh. And then he hands her 501 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.360 a slip of paper and he says, why don't you come to dinner and 502 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:36.239 find out. I'll take the paper, I'll take the dinner. I'm ready, 503 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.159 yes, but he says, manners do not come empty handed. You 504 00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:42.239 don't show up to the dinner without somebody, even a bottle of wine, 505 00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:45.280 whatever it may be. Oh my god, I learned that lesson the hard 506 00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:49.159 way in real life. I bet you did. Oh my god. You 507 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:57.000 remember that one time at Halloween when I left it at home. I had 508 00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.000 a whole thing from the grocery store, a dessert, and Chandler said, 509 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:06.320 okay, Chris, make sure you bring something. And I got there and 510 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:07.880 I was just like, oh no, I left it at home. Well, 511 00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:10.719 you know I'm gonna be super late, so I might as well just 512 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:15.079 go up and enjoy the party. And I get there, everybody's decked out 513 00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:20.239 their Halloween costumes. I'm like, here I am, and there's a whole 514 00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:24.760 spread of amazing Halloween treats. Everything you could think of, like rice, 515 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:30.199 Crispy draculas, and I don't know, chocolate cake, Frankenstein's. It was 516 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:36.159 great. But then y'all looked at me and You're all were like, where's 517 00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:40.880 your dish? And then I look behind me like, uh oops, I 518 00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.000 forgot it. I didn't want to be late. You didn't want to be 519 00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.039 late. Go just you shouldn't have even come at all. Just you know, 520 00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.280 you should have been, like, you know, halfway over the party 521 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:55.639 without instead of being at the hand. That's right, a shaved sham. 522 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.599 Never again. I swear I will be an hour and a half late to 523 00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.280 the party, Chandler. I will never come empty handed again. I can 524 00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:14.400 do what it takes. So she needs to be at this man's house for 525 00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:20.239 dinner at six o'clock sharp, and she's like, ooh, this better not 526 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:22.480 be a waste of time. As she shows up at six o'clock, she's 527 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.639 got something in her bag. You can see. I don't know what she 528 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.239 bought, but she's got a bag of something. So she did not come 529 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:31.119 empty handed. She was told to bring flour in a sack of potatoes, 530 00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:35.719 so I'm assuming that's what it was. Usually with the grandfather, she brought 531 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:39.199 tobacco, but you know, maybe these people don't smoke like this hot dude. 532 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:44.800 She gets up the stairs and onto the porch, but then all of 533 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:49.960 a sudden Shing. There is an electric explosion of energy and it sends her 534 00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.760 flying back at warp speed. Right at that is a beautiful looking night rider 535 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.360 car. It's not a night rider car. I just don't know how to 536 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.960 It looks like a night rider car. Sure, we'll say it kind of 537 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:05.000 reminds me of an Alvis Presley car racer thing. It's a really beautiful car. 538 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:10.559 Anyway, Shing smash crashes everywhere, and she's all like, what the 539 00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:16.360 hell? This is my favorite part because of course, because why Chandler, 540 00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:22.760 Well, because he opens the door. Ah, he's in his towel. 541 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:27.400 He's just literally ran out of the shower. He's still wet. He's soaking 542 00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:35.559 wet, ripping everywhere. He's so ripped. His nipples are got water droplets 543 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.239 on them. Yeah, that's how Weddy is. That's how wet Weddy is. 544 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.360 Okay, Anyway, she says the last man who tried to kill me, 545 00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:49.360 and it end up so good and she flames herself up plame on exactly. 546 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:51.559 He's all like, wait, who wha, whoa, whoa. I 547 00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:53.639 said to be here at six o'clock, but it's only five thirty or early. 548 00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:57.599 I didn't get a chance to the stable, the security system. Yeah, 549 00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.719 who shows up thirty minutes before somebody. That's when you catch people in 550 00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.719 the shower because they're busy preparing everything, they don't have time to shower, 551 00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.360 and then they are going to take a shower right before you arrive. So 552 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:14.159 if you arrive too early, never, never, and let maybe five minutes 553 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:17.679 early. You know, just Chandler, just I have to tell you this. 554 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:21.880 If I ever organize anything, I used to organize stuff, but not 555 00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:25.199 anymore. If I ever organize a little get together myself, do not come 556 00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:29.440 a half hour early. No, I won't you. You may come five 557 00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:35.320 minutes because I literally start everything that I need to do forty five minutes before 558 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:42.920 it's due, so I will also be answering the door. What exactly? 559 00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.320 No? This is? She should know better? Maya come on? Come 560 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:53.840 on? So she's all like she puts a fireball in her hand Johnny Storm 561 00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:58.800 style, and she is saying, hey, wait a minute, why do 562 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:05.239 you have the securities system? Who the hell are you have this security thing 563 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:09.559 that blasted so far back into that car that the car is now destroyed? 564 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.960 What's going on here, buddy? And don't lie to me? Well, 565 00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:22.280 he's like you better come inside. We got we got, I got something 566 00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.639 to show you, he says, Let me get dressed and I'll explain. 567 00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:30.760 And he explains who he is. His name is River. Yeah, and 568 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:35.079 he didn't he didn't even clean up his house. No, he's just like 569 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:39.079 me. We're so simpatico. If we if we were like, you know, 570 00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:44.880 a couple or something, we would both be cleaning the house and taking 571 00:45:44.920 --> 00:45:50.440 showers at the last possible minute. Because there's books everywhere, mounds and mounds 572 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:53.280 of books. Uh, what else do we see? We see beautiful artwork 573 00:45:53.400 --> 00:46:00.440 a Native American and a hatchet. Oh yeah, there's a drum knife in 574 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:04.480 a sheath. That beautiful or Nate, I love that. Yes, Oh 575 00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:10.840 there's a skull of bull skull on the wall or cow mm hmm. But 576 00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:15.360 yeah, we learned as names River and he has a superpower as well. 577 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:21.320 He can travel through ancestral lines, not time travel, but he can see 578 00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:29.199 through ancestry. He's a storyteller. Yeah, and this is very interesting because 579 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:36.159 I don't think I've ever seen somebody that had this power specifically in the Marvel 580 00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:42.679 universe yet. It's like past life superpower. Well not past life, it's 581 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:49.440 he's basically the personification of ancestry dot com. He explains a little bit about 582 00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:58.159 how he knows who Echo is and that she came to understand her power and 583 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:02.719 why the Phoenix chose her her because we heard of the beginning that she is 584 00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:08.079 the Phoenix host. After losing her battle to nay More died in the process, 585 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.199 Phoenix resurrected her gave her the power. She's like, I'm a loser. 586 00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.119 Why would you choose me? Why am I? The Phoenix forts host 587 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:22.000 so and he's like, because you're strong, and you actually come from a 588 00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.400 long line of strong warrior women. They touch hands and boom, we see 589 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:29.719 all of these women from her history. Well, let's see who we see 590 00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.480 here. Now, I see as somebody that has a piece simple So I'm 591 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:37.360 assuming that this is like a hippie from the sixties. O right, yeah, 592 00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:43.920 sure, we see got your leader type person. Oh yeah, yes, 593 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.880 and a bunch of other beautiful Native American women. Yes, it looks 594 00:47:46.880 --> 00:47:51.440 strong and powerful and I love I got to give a big shout out to 595 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:54.920 the one in the lower right, because she's like grandma version of these other 596 00:47:54.960 --> 00:48:00.639 women, and she's probably a real big badass. Hmm. If we got 597 00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:05.519 a story all about her. I'm sure that would be really interesting. She 598 00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:07.960 is like, stop, get out of my head. I don't know why 599 00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:12.079 she's so shocked, but I guess, you know, maybe seeing your ancestors 600 00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.360 is rather shocking, and she just wants to know if that's real, Like 601 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:20.840 how how did he do that? And why? I'm kind of curious, 602 00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:24.320 like Chandler, if this happened to you and then all of a sudden you 603 00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:30.519 got a vision of like the powerful ancestors from your line, Like who would 604 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.800 you see? I don't know who I would see because I don't know anything 605 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:37.519 about my ancestry, So maybe that would be shocking and exciting. I feel 606 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.199 like I would be excited if I learned that I came from like a line 607 00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:44.960 of warrior people, you know, rather than like stop, what are you 608 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:51.239 doing? I'd be like, ooh cool. I think this has kind of 609 00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.800 inspired me to do the ancestry dot Com just to find out. Yeah, 610 00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:58.440 oh my gosh, it works. They sponsored this new character and it worked, 611 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:06.440 mister ancestry dot com. But yes, anyways, he's like, oh, 612 00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:12.159 no, this actually comes from your mother's line. Mom, Mom, 613 00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:15.920 I don't even know my mom that some of her last name was Lopez. 614 00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:22.280 But yeah, you know, there is an evil entity out to get her 615 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:29.519 and he is going after her ancestral line. And she's like, I'm tough, 616 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:30.280 I got the Phoenix sports. He goes like, no, you don't 617 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:35.239 even understand. They're going so far back that they might eradicate her before she's 618 00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:39.280 even born. Yeah, and you know what, it looks like River has 619 00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:45.400 been doing his research because on the table next to a wonderful cup of coffee 620 00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.800 which I want to drink right now, there is a sheet of paper that 621 00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:54.559 shows Maya's ancestral tree and with a big circle around her on it. Yes, 622 00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.239 but yes, we get the done dune done to be continued at the 623 00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:05.119 very end because this shadowy figure that's traveling through her ancestry is out to get 624 00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:09.039 her and make sure that she is never even born, kind of like in 625 00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:14.880 a kind of like a back to the future kind of way. That was 626 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:20.119 the issue, everybody. It is an exciting setup for a five issue arc, 627 00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:22.840 and I highly recommend it because it was a fun you know read, 628 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:29.960 and I liked seeing the incorporation of Native American culture in it. So give 629 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.559 it a shot, you guys. We learn things about the Phoenix Force. 630 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:37.360 You know, like that she has the power to resurrect people from the dead. 631 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:38.920 I didn't know that one. Yeah, and we get to see more 632 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:45.360 of Maya's ancestors. She goes into the past each generation. You know that 633 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.079 villain is going to try to kill off the people in her family line, 634 00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:53.559 so we'll see if she survives. While Chandler, that was a fun recap. 635 00:50:53.639 --> 00:51:00.159 I am so excited to watch the new Echo series. I'll have to 636 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.239 go back and catch Hawkeye. I know, I know. Hawkeye was like 637 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.519 a Christmas themed right, so yes, and it's like fun, it's really 638 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:13.280 fun. It's not by any means. Yeah, so that'll that'll gear me 639 00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:15.800 up. Do you think I need to go back and watch Daredevil too, 640 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:20.360 just to kind of get some Charlie Cox and me. No, right, 641 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:30.039 Charlie, you don't worry. You didn't say that. Okay, but no, 642 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:35.280 there's no Daredevil, uh, you know, necessary unless you just want 643 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:40.639 to enjoy some Wilson Fisk you know, Vincent Dinofrio stuff. But no, 644 00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:46.239 for storyline, all you need is the Hawkeye series. Perfect, Okay. 645 00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:52.480 Cool? January Night, everybody tune into Disney Plus and Hulu for the new 646 00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:58.199 Echo television series Live Action. Yeha, before we go, I just wanted 647 00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:04.639 to tell the audience that I had an amazing life experience with you Chandler, 648 00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:08.360 my best friend and co host of xu Reads the podcast. Why because over 649 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:15.039 the holiday we went to the home of Gambit. Yes, yes, nolangs 650 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.960 knowledges. We went for the New Year celebration and there was so many cool 651 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.119 things to see. There were so many cool things that we did, Like 652 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:27.440 we went to the American Horror Story House and took photos you know, from 653 00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:31.519 Covin. Yeah, that was cool. M h, Yeah, we did 654 00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:37.480 all. We walked along the French Quarter a lot. We went to the 655 00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:43.039 Historic Voodoo Museum. We ate a lot of amazing food. We went to 656 00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:49.599 City Park Ate Beignets did a whole photo shoot very vampire style, the hometown 657 00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:53.159 of Gambit. I give it an a plus. Absolutely, it's It's one 658 00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:59.360 of my favorite cities in America by far. It's sony, yes, totally. 659 00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:05.960 And we actually ran into this dude that was carrying a bowstave and he 660 00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:08.480 had long, scraggly hair. He was blondie. He didn't have the brown 661 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:15.280 hair, but he had the coat, he had the bow staff and everything 662 00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:17.880 and he looked, you know, like a street thief kind of dude. 663 00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:22.280 And I was just like, he's here, gambits here, this is the 664 00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:27.039 IRL version. Yes, that was cool, And shout out to Creston City 665 00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.239 Comics too. We went to the local comic book shop to support them and 666 00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:36.360 I picked up some stuff. So love you, Creston City Comics. Shout 667 00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:42.000 out, shout out, so yes, thank you for that magical memory of 668 00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:46.559 Gambit's hometown. And we will be having so many more adventures in this new 669 00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:52.840 year of twenty twenty four. Yes, all right, everybody, thanks for 670 00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.880 tuning in. See you next time. X Reads is recorded in the United 671 00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:00.840 States. Our theme music is written by Austin Wintry. Make sure to follow 672 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.960 our podcast to be updated on when new episodes appear every first and third Wednesdays 673 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.599 of the month. 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