WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.319 --> 00:00:07.400 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jagon Salis on Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:14.519 fourteen fifteen, powered by Nova Insurance Services Ensure your most Prized Possessions katz R 3 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:19.359 two SAD at iHeart Radio Station. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome 4 00:00:19.399 --> 00:00:22.679 to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, 5 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:27.199 he's Jagon's oss. It's Thursday. I think we're on the downhill side 6 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:31.440 of the way. Yes, and like that, and for a long weekend, 7 00:00:32.159 --> 00:00:35.880 very love weekend. Yes, we had the vacation earlier. I take 8 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:41.159 another vacation. Now when football start? When's football start? Besides the packtwel 9 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:45.159 well pacwel media days, right so right, so right after that, I 10 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:49.799 think the team's come back. Look a week art their camps. The calendar, 11 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:52.439 I'm gonna looking, say the whole calendar there, it's probably he is 12 00:00:52.479 --> 00:00:55.079 late, you know. I mean the first part of it is like going 13 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:58.600 to these practices and they're hot. No, they're yeah, with the flies 14 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:00.280 and the flies. You want to go to all that? No, no, 15 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.760 no, no, That's why I ask I want the games to start. 16 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.879 I'm ready for games. You're talking about games. You need to see 17 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:08.959 how good the guys are going to be. You see what a big game 18 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:15.760 Boomer did today? He named he had the top sports programs in every state, 19 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:23.359 top college college sports. And it sounds by that decision that you've he's 20 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:26.799 made a mistake, huge mistake. Who did he say? And are you 21 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:34.079 what? Oh? Come on, that's like maybe fourth string. He was 22 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:37.760 just being he's just been a cock ahead. What what's the criteria you find? 23 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:42.040 He said the best college athletic program in every state? Didn't he never 24 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:46.719 lists of criteria? He said in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three, 25 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:52.319 so this last school year and he named Ana. But what's what It makes 26 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:53.760 noose sense? Who's in New Mexico. He's gonna give me Highlands? What 27 00:01:56.040 --> 00:02:00.959 I think? Well, yeah, because New States got Stanford in in California, 28 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:07.519 Okay, Morgan Washington, Boise State, Wyoming. Yeah, Okay, 29 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:12.039 it's only school there. I think that's Denver University because it's not Colorado, 30 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:20.000 Uh, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas State, Nebraska, South State State, 31 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:27.919 Minnesota, Iowa. He's got the Gators. Um, I mean, that's 32 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:30.599 the only one that's like completely off the wall except for Denver. I guess 33 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:34.879 I don't know if because they had a good hockey season or something. But 34 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:38.319 everyone else's like, okay, yeah, that makes zero sense. So make 35 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:43.280 sure we note that next time we have him one and maybe someone else took 36 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:46.400 over his computer, they're gonna have to fight him. Wow, I would, 37 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:50.680 I would say Grand Canyon before say he may have done that for you 38 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:53.680 and me. Yeah, I stick it too. Yeah, and I wouldn't, 39 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:55.719 right because why do we do it? We're talking about it, right, 40 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:59.439 Wow, talking about it. But we'll have a bone to pick with 41 00:02:59.479 --> 00:03:01.400 him next time we get him on Right. On the flip side of that, 42 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:07.520 he did name Michael Wiley and Jonah Coleman the number ten running back duo 43 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:13.599 in college football. Number ten. Okay, you know behind Michigan, O, 44 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:15.560 House State, Tennessee, Penn State, Oregon, Old Miss Wisconsin, 45 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:20.520 Florida, Louisville, than Arizona. Well there's that because they're gonna have good 46 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.919 running backs, you think, Yeah, good wide receivers. Two guys are 47 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:25.439 really good, just those two guys. If they got more guys, so 48 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:30.919 you and good wide receivers. Yeah, uh, an apparent good quarterback. 49 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:34.520 We don't know what's gonna happen with him. Um, if the line can 50 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:38.520 hold, they'll score some points. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and actually 51 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:44.439 so then later on he Big Game he ranked the top fifty best athletic program. 52 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:46.759 So before it was just a map, the best one you state. 53 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:49.319 Then he ranked them all. He said in there you at number twenty. 54 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:53.639 What's wrong with him? I don't know. What does he know that? 55 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:58.199 We don't know. I don't know. Why does he have UCLA? Oh, 56 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:00.639 I see what we said, So you can have more than one in 57 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:04.039 a state. So but he doesn't have Arizona in the top fifty. Wow, 58 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:09.599 And not that they have to be, but any you whatever they dine, 59 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:13.039 I don't know. I don't know, win some national championships. I 60 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:15.560 don't know. I don't know either. Wow. I'm sure they didn't fall 61 00:04:15.959 --> 00:04:21.160 very high on Neil of the series couple Breakfast did. Yeah? Yeah, 62 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:26.879 I mean as is not in there either, in the top fifties. What 63 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.439 matter the way he did that? Any have to have a chat with him 64 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:33.199 at some point. We just throw that out there to get things. Yeah 65 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.800 yeah, Big Game bo fired up. We're gonna have to change his name 66 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:42.040 to I don't know who I'm talking about, big Boom. Yeah, that's 67 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:47.279 but ahead Boomers. Yeah, all right, okay, okay, if you 68 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:49.519 guys want to call, we haven't had a couple of calls in the last 69 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:53.720 couple of days. Five two, four, one, six, seventy four 70 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:57.199 forties. The time to call a good show today, right, what do 71 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.199 we have? We got Davy Jackson. He's one of the h Uh. 72 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:03.040 He's a co defensive coordinator for the Sugars because he got a big game this 73 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:06.959 weekend. But a couple of days ago he was inducted in or he was 74 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:12.680 voted into the Indoor Football League Hall of Fame. Uh. He's the sack 75 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.879 leader, the career sack leader in the Indoor Football League. I think he 76 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:21.319 had eighty one and the next the next person as like fifty one or something 77 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:25.800 like that. He's way out there. Um, I think I got the 78 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:28.439 hiccups. I think he played eight years in the league, so that's I 79 00:05:28.439 --> 00:05:30.480 mean, that's part of the reason. But he was a really good player. 80 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:32.879 He was you know, I in looking for a mug shot for him 81 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:36.600 for the for our social media today saw him some pictures of him from college 82 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:40.439 and stuff. He was a mean looking dude. He's a big guy, 83 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.360 very friendly guy like him a lot um he was. He was one of 84 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:47.839 the coaches that was going to be coaching in the twenty twenty twenty twenty season 85 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:53.000 when when I got asked as the as the president of the team because of 86 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:56.199 COVID. So he's been around since then. Uh, Like I said, 87 00:05:56.240 --> 00:06:00.360 really good guy. Always have a little chat with him before before the games, 88 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:01.680 the home games. They've got home game this week is a big game, 89 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:04.360 so we'll talk to him about that. And why. You know, 90 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:08.319 what he thinks is the been as you say, the magic sauce with the 91 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:12.040 defenses defense, well kind of secret sauce. They've been really good, you 92 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:14.680 gotta you. But he probably has a lot of his old secret sauce because 93 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:16.959 if he was that good, he probably translates well to the to the good 94 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:19.360 guys. Right, Yeah, in the second hour, we're gonna have add 95 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:26.560 Wheeler right as you would call her professionally what desiree is desire desire Okay, 96 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:31.160 but we call her DD. She's her and um Felicity Willis are holding basketball 97 00:06:31.160 --> 00:06:34.399 camps from girls, and I wanted to talk to her about that. Right 98 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:40.639 she's she's the athletic director for t USD, but obviously doing this, uh 99 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:46.120 you know, on the side to give give some young athletes some opportunities to 100 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:47.839 have basketball campser the one that's coming up in July, they do it saying 101 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.800 I agree, Which, well, it's actually the Gregory School, which is 102 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:54.720 very cool for you know, so well talked to her a little bit about 103 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.279 the camps and how to sign up, and you know, but what the 104 00:06:58.600 --> 00:07:00.160 people can expect what they go to these camps, right right, we'll talk 105 00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:04.800 about just all that and just you know what what the college what basketball has 106 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:10.680 come to for little girls obviously a lot different than how different when she came 107 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:13.519 up, when she was coming up, and it doesn't seem just a lot 108 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:17.759 long ago. You know, it's funny because girls basketball was just starting to 109 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:21.199 be a high school sport back when I was covering high school sports in the 110 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:26.959 early eighties. Yeah, and wellball too, probably all around that time. 111 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:30.279 Well and you know, I mean they were just learning the game. I 112 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:34.360 mean just the very basic learning how to dribble, learning how to shoot. 113 00:07:34.360 --> 00:07:39.600 And to think of how far basketball has become or there's a WNBA, it's 114 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:42.879 it's incredible too. I mean that's a long time, it's forty years, 115 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:46.560 but still, you know, to have seen it at it's very rude and 116 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:48.720 see what it is now. Of course there were there were other other women 117 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:55.879 playing at higher levels, the Nancy Lieberman's and the the the Ryl Sheryl Miller 118 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:59.800 Miller. That's kind of an extreme case. But but yeah, you know 119 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.040 it's coming. That's forty years now, forty years yeah, so okay, 120 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:05.920 we'll talk to her about that. One of the great players along with listening 121 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:09.120 your name up in the rafters. That okay, yeah, then definitely one 122 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:11.920 of the best players. Good, Okay, So again, if you guys 123 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:16.519 want to call five two o four one six, I've already been texted seventy 124 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:18.319 four forty I've been texting another name for our friend, big game Boomer. 125 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:22.800 They want to call him dumb butt Boomer dumb, but that fits too. 126 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.639 We might have to take names for him. He'll say, you know, 127 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:28.439 does he doesn't get every time he said that, you know what, I'm 128 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:31.000 gonna argue and he'll, you know, he'll make his case, right, 129 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:35.879 he'll I don't know if we went up looked up any used sports is here, 130 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:37.720 maybe the one A bunch of championships. We'll kill the sweetn't cover him. 131 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:41.159 We don't know, right right, Let us know, we'll try to 132 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:45.840 maybe get him next week as we get kind of turning the corner for youa 133 00:08:45.919 --> 00:08:48.720 football. Okay, we should everybody know Monday Tuesday, we're gonna be off 134 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:54.200 next right with with the fourth of July holiday on Tuesday. Um, we 135 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.039 thought, you know what, we're gonna take Monday off as well, so 136 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.120 he's gonna go out of town. Um, I got stuff with my family 137 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.600 and stuff. So we're gonna Monday and Tuesday off. That's a great opportunity 138 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.759 for you to go listen to one of our I think twelve hundred and two 139 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:11.720 or uh a little podcast whatever. The podcast we've got posted on the ice 140 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:15.440 and two. Well you know what I think though, there's two a day 141 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.919 right right right. We don't buy the hour since that makes sense, but 142 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:22.759 we've got twelve hundred one hour podcasts that you can listen to because we break 143 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:26.759 it up and so there's two a day. Um, you can go listen 144 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:28.960 to any show that we've we've done that that you might have missed, and 145 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:31.879 we ask you to keep listening to those when we're not around. When we 146 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:35.759 are around, when you're out walking or you know, trying to go to 147 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:39.080 sleep or whatever. You're doing taking a nap listen to us on the podcast. 148 00:09:39.159 --> 00:09:43.240 It's uh, it helps us. But I think we've you know, 149 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.559 we've often got you know, good stuff to listen to. We're just having 150 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.679 conversation as we as we like to say. Right right, this is shooting 151 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.000 the stuff at the bar. Yeah, without the liquor. Yeah. It's 152 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:54.960 like it's like we're come. It's like we're at a bar every day for 153 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:58.639 two hours for happier or whatever you want to say. And whatever's happening today 154 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:01.000 is what we're talking about. You know, a lot of stuff going on, 155 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:03.840 a lot of NBA stuff going on right now. Um, we'll talk 156 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:05.960 about three agency starts tomorrow, right talking about a lot. We'll talk a 157 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.679 lot about this stuff and UH and breaking news. Um, we're still waiting 158 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:18.200 on the UH the U nineteen UH basketball. I thought it was gonna be 159 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.960 this morning. It's tomorrow. We're okay, it's on Friday, and so 160 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:26.639 Friday their time, it's at six thirty. It's tonight sixty six o'clock in 161 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:31.840 the morning our time. So both Serbia and UH the US will be playing 162 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:37.240 tomorrow with the kylum Boswa for the US and Philippe Borovich. I've gotten good 163 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.879 at his name. You're gonna love his game. You're gonna love his game. 164 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.840 Yeah, he's Uh well, I I I told you yesterday. He 165 00:10:43.960 --> 00:10:46.759 doesn't come dressed to the party, but he's good at those guys. Twenty 166 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.039 six points in the last one of those guys. You gonna do no matter 167 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:52.120 who you're playing, right, Wow, it was easy to do against my 168 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:58.000 kid when he was five years old. The more I see how Tommy Load 169 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.919 has built his roster, it's gonna be nice. It's gonna be nice. 170 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.240 But let me tell you something, Jay, they could go twenty five and 171 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:07.720 five, whatever, the twenty five and five, twenty seven and three, 172 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:13.720 whatever it is, twenty and ten, it doesn't matter until March twenty it 173 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:18.799 does. Luke created this monster. Uh Sean had to live it and try 174 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:24.120 to survive it. He did. And now now, um Tommy's gonna have 175 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:26.799 to live and survive it. I hear you know. I mean he's again. 176 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:30.039 He's won sixty one games in two seasons. There's still people they're still 177 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.240 he's not the guy, right, He's not the guy. The good thing, 178 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.919 Jay, that that has died down, Yeah, that has died down 179 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:37.799 because the people that were bitching about it. Now they can't say, well 180 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:41.919 this they can't. They can't, guy, they can't do it. Yeah, 181 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.639 now it's gonna be on him. He's got to win those games. 182 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:50.799 He didn't look worried. He looked, He looked casually, he looked Lucy, 183 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:54.399 looked like he was joking. He's uh, yeah, you know he's 184 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:58.080 he's enjoying the coaching. You know, he's out, he's doing what he 185 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:03.679 likes to do. I feel like I feel like he's not. I don't 186 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.759 feel like the demands of the job are weighing on him. No. Right, 187 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.559 And like you always felt that that Sean Miller had this load on him 188 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:16.360 on his shoulder. I think that was more of his personality. I yeah 189 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:20.039 percent agree with that for whatever reason. Right, you felt like the weight 190 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:24.320 was always on Sean Miller's shoulder. Right, look you looked at you looked 191 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:30.080 him in the face. Yeah, just his mannerism is he's press confidence and 192 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:33.840 you just felt like the weight of the world was always You might don't remember 193 00:12:33.840 --> 00:12:37.279 this, but I did a story for you guys on BIZ Tucson on Sean 194 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:39.960 and I asked him that question that he uh, he created a beat or 195 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:43.480 he had to feed the beast. Like we're just talking with Sean with loot 196 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:46.919 and and I said, the recruiting says it's he said it was overwhelming, 197 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.600 and I kind of wrote that because once you know, once you sell ten 198 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:56.240 cars one month, you gotta sell fifteen. It's it's it's not easy, 199 00:12:56.320 --> 00:13:01.960 man. And he not that. He so that it overtook him, but 200 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:05.639 you can set it with heavy exactly. It was a burden. It was 201 00:13:05.840 --> 00:13:09.679 very heavy on. Yeah, And you know, and then you know, 202 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.440 when you saw him last year, he kind of felt like he's somehow figured 203 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:18.080 out how to relieve that burden, burden or whatever it is. If he 204 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:22.039 still has the burden but he handles it better, or if he's just like 205 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:26.039 not let things be a burden and enjoy the job and make the money and 206 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.440 have fun and compete. Let me tell you a cute story. I don't 207 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.679 know if it's a qute story, but I run a story. So last 208 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:35.320 year when he had the time off, I was told by some people that 209 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.080 he went on vacation, right, uh, he to And I tease Josh 210 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:41.200 about this because he had been not out for for twice seven years. So 211 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.240 Sean went on vacation. I think he went San Diego. But oh, 212 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.960 I says, this is this is a nice place. This is I've enjoyed 213 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:50.799 this place. And the guy told me the story says it's because he's never 214 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.440 been allowed himself to enjoy himself. You know, when you just kind of 215 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:58.159 say, what the heck, lily's tall buildings, there's water, and we've 216 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.919 met these people all along the way. I've worked with people like I was 217 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:03.480 just gonna say, not just in basketball, and I've worked with people like 218 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.519 that. But you know, you need to calm down. Yeah, it's 219 00:14:07.600 --> 00:14:11.600 not life and death. You know, go take a day off, Go 220 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:13.759 go play some golf, go to the mountains. Oh well, go do 221 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:18.120 something. Stopped doing this for a little while. It's like I said this 222 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.320 to some women, Uh, well you don't buy me flowers. Well you 223 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:26.720 don't have time to smell the roses they're going you're too busy. Does that 224 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:33.120 apply? That applies? You get it. You can't say that to a 225 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:39.360 lady I have many a time. They still see it. Well maybe exactly, 226 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.120 maybe you shouldn't. All right, let's take our first fac where to 227 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:45.600 come back. We're have Xavier Jackson, defensive coordinator, for the Sugar Skulls. 228 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:48.759 We'll talk about his Hall of Fame vote vote, and just what we 229 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:58.159 take expect from the Shirt Skulls this weekend. We'll be right back. 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Now on 296 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:56.680 the phone. We have nig Xavie Jackson from the Two Sons Sugars Culture. 297 00:19:56.960 --> 00:20:02.240 How are you going, coach? I'm doing good than yourself. We're doing 298 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:04.480 well. Good to talk to you, um, just talk to you about 299 00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:08.880 the defense side on that. But first we got to say congratulations, coach. 300 00:20:08.920 --> 00:20:12.960 You got you got voted into the Indoor Football League Hall of Fame. 301 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:17.400 Uh, I mean, how does something like that feel? Right? I 302 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:18.640 mean, it's nice when somebody tells you you're good, but then when they 303 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:22.599 tell you you're in the Hall of Fame, what was that like for you? 304 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:26.599 Well, first off hand, let me let me say a great deal 305 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:30.759 appreciate man both y'all for saying thank y'all. Uh, to be to be 306 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:34.359 honest with you, to be in the Hall of Fame, to be listed 307 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:40.920 with the greats, it's a it's an unreal experience and it's just a blessing 308 00:20:40.960 --> 00:20:44.480 to be in something that man like, Hey, this is what I worked 309 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:48.079 hard for and I made it finally. Nice. Yeah, so you know, 310 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:51.880 I and I get to I get to visit with you be you know 311 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:53.880 a little bit before the games and stuff like that. You're you know, 312 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:56.279 you always seem kind of loose and stuff like that. But then I was 313 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:00.400 looking at pictures of you while you were playing. You look mean you were 314 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.559 you like a mean dude or what what was the I guess you were if 315 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.680 you had what eighty some sacks and you were just killing people out there, 316 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:08.680 But what was your approach to the game? Back then when you were playing. 317 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:12.759 My approach to the game is just like the young men today. It 318 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:15.319 is just to get up out of here. You know. I had an 319 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:22.160 illustrious career here at UH in the IFL with a few different teams like see 320 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:26.720 the Rapids, Nebraska Lacrosse Wisconsin. It was a great experience. I tried 321 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:30.279 to get up out of here as fast as I could, and I thought 322 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:36.160 that, you know, stats would help me with that adventure. Yeah. 323 00:21:36.240 --> 00:21:38.519 Well, it takes a special person, I think to play the position you 324 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:42.400 did you did? How do you how do you become the guy or the 325 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:48.079 player you became? There was hard work and I had a great bed tour, 326 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.599 you know. Uh. I give it all to my coaches that helped 327 00:21:52.599 --> 00:22:00.400 the coach through the years of the IFL and in college and a different coaches 328 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:04.079 I met in the NFL in CFL to help me. And I put all 329 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:07.480 that together to get the eighty one and the half sacks. Yeah, so 330 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:11.039 well, I mean eighty one and a half and then I think you're you're 331 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:15.799 like thirty ahead of anybody else. I mean, you're way, you're way 332 00:22:15.799 --> 00:22:18.160 in the hell out there. That's like a record that might not ever be 333 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:23.359 broken. Well, I one day it might not be broken, but records 334 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:26.960 are meant to be broken. Yeah, But I mean, if if it's 335 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:30.559 ever broken, I greatly commend whoever does it, And it would have been 336 00:22:30.599 --> 00:22:34.200 a blessing to hold it as long as I did. Why is it so 337 00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:40.920 difficult to find players at that position to be great? I know that University 338 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:44.200 of Arizona they're looking for those guys. You know, everyone's looking for those 339 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:49.640 guys, but big, big, aggressive dudes. It's hard because we come 340 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:55.480 a dime a, doesn't you know, Athletic speed, power, all that 341 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:59.720 stuff rolled in the one is very hard to find. And these young men 342 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:02.480 now all the days with you know, the n I L and things like 343 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:07.039 that, it kind of hinders them to come into our league, not knowing 344 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:11.599 that, you know, we have a partnership with the XFL and things like 345 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:14.680 that. It's a great league to be in. And that's why I've been 346 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:17.200 in there so long. I was gonna say, you've been you've been in 347 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:22.759 football, you know, since forever, but I mean in professional football since 348 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:25.680 two thousand and seven. I mean, that's a that's a good amount of 349 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:27.400 time, you know, both as a player and now you've been coaching for 350 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:32.759 a few years. Um, what what has been? I guess as you 351 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:36.400 see what's been? What's been the track? Why does it keep you going? 352 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:42.400 The love of the game and trying to give these young men an avenue 353 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:47.079 to show them that, hey, I did it too. This is one 354 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:51.279 of the routes so that I took and you could take it too, you 355 00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:53.160 know, like you said, I've been in the NFL, CFL, I 356 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:57.079 played Arena one as well. You guys can play this and go to the 357 00:23:57.079 --> 00:24:00.680 next level as well. So I'm assuming you're still under forty, right, 358 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:04.079 you're still kind of a young dude. Are you able to kind of a 359 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:10.359 show technique and show the young guys what you did to be successful. Yes, 360 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:12.359 And that's why I try to instill in my d line now here in 361 00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:18.440 Tucson. You know, I try to show everything that I've learned, also 362 00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:22.440 how I used to do it when I was here. That helped me get 363 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:25.559 out of here as well, you know, with little things, and I 364 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:29.839 can go out there still and you know, in practice showing little things walking 365 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.920 through. I mean, I couldn't play a whole game no more, but 366 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.200 you know, yeah, I mean it's very fun at practice. Showing them 367 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:42.519 how I used to do it and making them better on game days. So 368 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:47.359 well, I'm pretty sure my my ability to get into a three point stance 369 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:52.480 ended about twenty years ago. You get when we try to get out. 370 00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:53.519 Oh yeah, that's a good point. I might be able to get in 371 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:56.559 it, I might not be able to get out of it. Probably looking 372 00:24:56.599 --> 00:25:00.359 at your at you at your bio, and you went from you were playing 373 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:03.440 one year and you were coaching the next. Why why did you want to 374 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.920 get jump into the coaching piece of this right away? Like I said, 375 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.720 I'm the love for the game first and the foremost. I didn't want to 376 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:15.039 walk away from it that way. I thought that I had enough still in 377 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:19.079 the tank to give to these young men, and why not give my knowledge 378 00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:23.319 to them and you know, help them reap my benefit. It's all the 379 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:26.359 knowledge that I have. So so coach. I might lose this argument with 380 00:25:26.440 --> 00:25:30.680 Jay, but we go in this discussion a lot, and I'm not going 381 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:33.960 to tell you which way, Eileen. But here's the question. So you 382 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:36.799 have players, and you were probably one of them, a tough, strong 383 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:41.759 dude playing the position, and you did your job really well. Can you 384 00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:45.400 can you can you teach a guy. This is not the right word they'll 385 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.960 teach. Let's say you have a good dude who's atlantic and plays hard and 386 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:52.960 all that stuff. Can you teach a dude to be tough or is he 387 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:57.079 already you have to be tough, You have to already have that as opposed 388 00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:03.759 to learning. Yes, you are correct that you know that is something that 389 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:10.519 over the course of time that is ingrained in you. And uh, your 390 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:15.039 upbringing help put you in that situation. You know what I'm saying. It's 391 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:19.000 not necessarily just your mother or your father, you know, just you're outside 392 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:23.519 like the people that you've been around, whether positive or negatively. Right, 393 00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.799 Right, you're not born with either you are or you aren't. Right, 394 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.079 you could be a heap of a player. You could be a heck of 395 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:32.960 a player and not have that but still be a heck of a player. 396 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.200 Yes, sir, definitely, Yeah, definitely, Okay, thank you. 397 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:41.400 I think you can learn to be tough. But what the hell do I 398 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.759 know? I didn't I didn't play for I didn't play professional football. So 399 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.359 one of the things that we've talked about this year about about this year's team 400 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.720 is how the defense has sort of become the identity of the team. You 401 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:55.920 guys, you guys are really good because you play really good defense. And 402 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:59.319 that's not to same thing bad about the offense. But I you know, 403 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.920 you know, be doing doing your home games, watching all your games, 404 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.440 you guys are I think you guys are where you are because of your defense. 405 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:11.799 How much of that do you agree with? UM? To be honest 406 00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.839 with you, like you kept saying, our team, You know, if 407 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:19.839 our players take on their the personality of their head coach. And you know, 408 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:25.319 y'all see our head coach laughing and smiling and joking like he always does. 409 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:30.240 You get that we all have that fight as coaches and we are on 410 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.680 them hard and practice to get the little things right. And I think that 411 00:27:33.799 --> 00:27:40.039 they take on the personality whether it's offense or defense, out of our coaches. 412 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.720 Well, you were here last year and the defense wasn't all that great. 413 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:47.119 I mean, how did you guys become this defense that you've become this 414 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:49.599 year? Is it just, guys, is that you change some things up 415 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:53.359 about how you do things? What would you attribute the improvement in the defense 416 00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:57.680 from last year to this year? You know, we went on the drawing 417 00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:02.920 board after last year, even UM, big up still, Coach Dixie Wooton, 418 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.319 you know what I'm saying, for giving me the opportunity to come in 419 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:10.759 here and help with his defense that helped him win a championship in Iowa. 420 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.799 I learned a lot from him, and I've learned a lot from Coach Chan 421 00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:22.000 that helped me see different things and where I wanted to improve in the task 422 00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:26.960 game and the Roman. Okay, I was gonna ask you real quick because 423 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.559 I asked this question now most of the time with coaches, Um, what's 424 00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:37.799 your secret sauce? What makes you a special coach? I think we lost 425 00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.839 him. I think that's what happened. Oh he didn't cut out here? 426 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.960 Okay, all right, we did Yeah, Okay, okay, we'll come 427 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.279 back. Yeah. He ended that sentence real quick, So we were looking 428 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.079 at each other. Okay, we'll try to get back to Coach Johnson here 429 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.559 in a second. Sounds like a good dude, good tough dude. Um, 430 00:28:56.680 --> 00:29:00.839 so we'll get back to him. Uh. What time do they practice 431 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.559 early in the morning? Yeah? I was gonna ask you because how different 432 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:07.960 call cannot be confused? How difficult was that working out in the morning's fishing 433 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:15.880 in the seat? Okay? Don't pends into this. This phone call, 434 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.279 well, I don't think they can hear the dial though. Okay, we 435 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:21.759 can, we can chat. Okay, this one, this one we got 436 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:26.319 back. Okay, hopefully weekend and they have a game this weekend Saturday, 437 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:33.839 Saturday, cannot be confused. Saturday six o'clock, Saturday six o'clock. It's 438 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:37.200 the veggat the biggest Nighthawks. They have to they can continue to win to 439 00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:40.279 get into the playoffs, right, Well, if they win this weekend, 440 00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.119 yeah, okay, they're trying to do with how many games that three eight 441 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:49.119 o'clock, six o'clock. What they're trying to do is host they finished first 442 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:55.759 or second, they've winned this game. T Hello, coach, we lost 443 00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:56.880 year. Coach, we lost you there for a second. I'm not sure 444 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:04.119 what happened. I was so you're you're talking about your make you one of 445 00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.799 the great coaches? What makes me a great coaches? As the coaches that 446 00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:14.920 I have around me, uh coach Chid Uh coach and DRIs they helped me 447 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:19.599 develop Mike scout of coaching and things like that, and big ups to coach 448 00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:23.200 Dixie move as well. That helped me over the last two seasons put me 449 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.359 in a position where I can be successful. So one thing one of the 450 00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.960 things that Pat Harris and I have talked about on the on the game broadcast 451 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:37.039 is your defensive line. You're the defensive line coach Maurice Jackson and those guys 452 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:41.759 who just you've had a consistent, you know, line line up in the 453 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.599 games. These guys have been here every game, whether you're you know, 454 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.359 you're rotating some guys and whatnot. But how much does that help, especially 455 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:49.599 in the league where you know, guys come and go right, but you 456 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.200 guys have been had consistently the same guys on the defensive line. How key 457 00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:57.480 has that been to how good your defense has been. It's been very key. 458 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:03.079 Like you said, the consistent see, and that's what coach every week 459 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.920 is being consisted to do what we ask you to do. Everything else to 460 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:11.799 playing to perspective. Yeah, you know, a guy like Morris Jackson we've 461 00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.839 talked about, you got a couple others. He's always knocking the ball down, 462 00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.119 He's you know, knocking some passage on. Ronald Collins has been out 463 00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:26.400 there a bunch of guys. What is is there a difference between a defensive 464 00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.720 lineman and what he's got to be able to do in this game versus say, 465 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.240 you know you've been in the CFL, you were in the NFL, 466 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:37.759 and the skills needed for that level of football. What is how much of 467 00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.799 a difference is there? It's not much different, you know, it's just 468 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.680 a different in where you're playing, whether it's outside or inside. You know, 469 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:51.160 I tell them to win their individual battles and hopefully you know, in 470 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:53.279 the course of a game, when you have sixty to eighty plays the game, 471 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.960 just like outside, you should be able to win those battles. You 472 00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.480 know, sixty percent of the all right, you wouldn't sexty pursuit of the 473 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:07.839 timing your individual battle. The team will first from that, right. Let 474 00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.599 mean that's grew quick because you're a great player in the league. What makes 475 00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:17.079 this game so special? The IFL game? Yeah, IFL game was so 476 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:21.920 special because of the fact that, like I've just stated, it is outdoor 477 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:27.599 football played with less people. So when you get back to outdoors, you're 478 00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.400 not losing a beat. Like I said, you win your individual battle, 479 00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:36.160 whether it's up front one on one in the dB wide receiver game and the 480 00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:42.039 quarterback reading different coverages every single week. Yeah, Okay, So I gotta 481 00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:47.400 ask you because this just puzzles me. Okay, why the difference between your 482 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.920 road schedule, road record and your home record. You guys been great on 483 00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:55.200 the road, it's been a struggle at home. Any ideas how or why 484 00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:04.960 that happens? I think, and our players said it the best that they 485 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:10.559 got to prove themselves to somebody, and being on the road, they have 486 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:15.279 to prove it. Like man, we're away from home, we have to 487 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:17.920 dig in and lock in even harder. And there's been a blessing to be 488 00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:23.480 around these young men to hear them say that we just want them to click 489 00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:27.599 it on at home as well. I mean, yes, I apologize to 490 00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:30.599 running that we've had a bad home game hold record, so we don't turn 491 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:35.599 it around at the end. Well you got well you got two home games 492 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.599 left. Pat and I were saying, is that a good thing or a 493 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:38.960 bad thing? I don't know that we that we know hopefully it's a good 494 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:43.759 thing, right, yes, sir, we we do think of it as 495 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.480 coaches and players that it's a great thing that we have two games at the 496 00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:50.759 end and everybody else was on the road. All right, coach, Well 497 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:52.359 you know, I'll see you on Saturday. Good luck, go out and 498 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.359 get one, and you guys clinch clinch a playoff spot if you win. 499 00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.319 So that's obviously got to mean a lot to your guys. Are they up 500 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.440 about I'm sure they are, But how do you use that to get these 501 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.960 guys fired up? We don't have to use nothing. Like you said, 502 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:12.440 they're very fired up this week. We had a great week of practice and 503 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.920 we're gonna put a good show on for the home crowd going down the end. 504 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.599 We're playing great football in the right time going into the playoffs, and 505 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.039 just tell them you're on the road. Just tell yeah, where the white 506 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:28.239 That's what you had to do. Where the white? Right right right now. 507 00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.000 I think we're gonna put on I know we're gonna put on a good 508 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:34.800 show this weekend. Man. I greatly appreciate all you guys for coming to 509 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.599 the bone yard and supporting us all season. Thanks all right, coach, 510 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.000 that's the whole bunch of Sea Saturday art, See you Saturday. Thank you. 511 00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:46.599 Cost sounds like a good good guy, he really, isn't it, 512 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:51.599 You know, I do maybe I feel like I'm more tense before those games 513 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.880 and something you sound like you do the same thing that you can. Well, 514 00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:57.639 you know, it's like you want him to win because one, I 515 00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.239 mean you, we've talked about a million times more fun to call all the 516 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:04.760 game that they win and get the right it's all it always is. Well, 517 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:09.039 I've known some people in my time here who were cheering under the desk 518 00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:14.559 because they because they want to do it. What are you doing? You 519 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.840 know, it's kind of become more open more recently because it was Remember it 520 00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:22.679 was taboo too. You can't even give a full right, I tell you, 521 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.159 I tell you Jay, and I'm not from here and they can go 522 00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:28.440 to school you by. But I know the people who actually did and have 523 00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:31.679 kind of emotionally invested in the team, right or the program right, I'm 524 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:35.800 not gonna lie. That was one of the hardest things for me, not 525 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.960 about covering basketball for but covering football. It was really hard for me because 526 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:42.440 you were emotionally must not show that I had. I had to work at 527 00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.320 it. All. Right, let's take a breakword and come back. We'll 528 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:49.719 take your calls five two zero four, one six seventy any news that's been 529 00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:51.760 going on the last few days. We've got some stuff to talk about. 530 00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.840 When we get breaking news. We've got Dedy Wheeler uh in the second hour 531 00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:59.280 to talk about some basketball camps, youth basketball camps that are coming up at 532 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:02.119 the summer system. For all of that. If you're an Arizona men's basketball 533 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.400 fan, you'd know it's been successful for newly forty years. Now. 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I was going to save 582 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:34.559 this forum breaking news, but we have to have a talk about this, 583 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.800 okay, because on the one hand, and what part picking news, there 584 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:44.719 were some suspensions in the NFL sport for some sports gambling by players, Okay. 585 00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:54.159 In the NBA's new Collective Bargaining Agreement, it says that players players may 586 00:39:54.239 --> 00:40:00.800 hold passive, non controlling interests in sports betting or fantasy companies. Those equity 587 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:06.599 stakes are limited to one percent for companies offering NBA related bets or contests, 588 00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:09.559 and players can't promote NBA specific betting. So, on one hand, you're 589 00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:14.159 getting suspended for gambling. And on the other hand, you got the NBA 590 00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.519 said, yeah, but go ahead and own a sports gambling company. How 591 00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:21.159 does that work? And specifically for fantasy stuff too, Yeah, fantasy and 592 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:27.199 sports betting companies. Are they included because they're they're actually active participants, you 593 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.639 know, trying to do in their stats? Yep. I don't get it. 594 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:36.039 No people, people, yesterday I saw one of my colleagues, national 595 00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.920 colleagues have said this. How can it be hypocritical? If if you're gonna 596 00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:43.840 say it sypocritical? What about this? So beer money? Right? They 597 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.760 have beer ads and they have beer established, they sell beer, YadA YadA. 598 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:52.480 So are they promoting duys? I saw that, and they're not right. 599 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.480 Of course there's a law against DUI correct. And I guess you can 600 00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:58.880 have rules against gambling, but it just seems for some reason, this seems 601 00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:02.000 different because the dy you can kill somebody. You're not gonna kill somebody because 602 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.920 they're gambling, but you can screw up the game. But I get it. 603 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:08.880 What I guess what I'm saying is, why would you let your your 604 00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:14.239 players be able to own gambling, you know, have investments in gambling companies? 605 00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.000 Why would you say that's you can't do that and just say, well, 606 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:21.880 I don't know if you can say anything, but wouldn't you want to 607 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:24.679 reserve that until after you're out of the profession? Exactly exactly. I thought 608 00:41:25.400 --> 00:41:29.360 some other stuff in in the in the in the agreement because I hadn't I 609 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:30.800 really hadn't paid much attention to it. But then there was a nice article 610 00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:35.800 that kind of summarized a lot of this stuff. Marijuana has been removed, 611 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:40.920 So which is which is all? I'm sure people that players can invest in 612 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:46.360 and promote companies that produce CBD products, So not only can you can you 613 00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:52.199 blaze up, you can sell the stuff. Yeah, yeah, welcome to 614 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.320 the new world. Um. They're also letting players own portions of of w 615 00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:01.480 NBA teams if they're not owned by another NBA team. Right, that's just 616 00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:05.880 different. It's a different investment group. Um, so that's that's a that's 617 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.280 a thing. Um. They did establish a minimum or to be eligible for 618 00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:13.800 all NBA teams and MVP I play. You gotta play sixty five games. 619 00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:16.559 It's pretty good. Okay, if somebody cares about that, then you can't 620 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:20.159 you know, you can't be missing a bunch of games. Because just because 621 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.559 you don't feel like playing, but that still lets you miss what's seventeen games? 622 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:24.679 Right, it's an eighty two, eighty one or eighty two game season 623 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.559 for BASTA. Yeah, na, yeah, I'm thinking of seventy two. 624 00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:36.400 Now, Um are you some more? Some more? Um? No? 625 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:38.639 That I was really the big piece. So yesterday I was watching two about 626 00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:43.559 the NBA. Uh, what do you think the driving force is for many 627 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.079 of the players in the league. And I'm not praising it the same way 628 00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:51.320 they did, but the biggest drive for being in the NBA? Why somebody 629 00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.000 wants to be in the NBA for the freaking money? For the money. 630 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:55.840 Okay, So let's assup for a second. And then you've you've made a 631 00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:59.920 lot of money. Uh, you're making a lot of money. Do you 632 00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:04.599 want to win? How what's the importance of winning versus money? Well, 633 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.760 losing hurts a lot less if you're making a lot of money, and I 634 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:12.079 accept losing if you're if you're making money, and at the end of the 635 00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.199 day, you think, okay, true true. So it's uh, and 636 00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:19.000 they were talking about that, what's the driving force? Money? Regardless if 637 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.320 they're on a winning or losing team, they really don't. They don't care 638 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:24.800 as much if you're they're losing that well, that's why you you might see 639 00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:30.880 a guy who's on a championship team leave the championship team so they don't make 640 00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.679 more money at a team that's not gonna win. A great point, which 641 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.679 leads me to the next one. Okay, pool from Golden State dealt, 642 00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:40.760 And everyone's gonna say, and everyone's saying, well, he's gonna score thirty 643 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.119 at his next stop. Okay, okay, but he's gonna sucky team, 644 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:49.880 right, what would you rather have? He's doing that with Washington Wizard's So, 645 00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.440 so tell me, are you gonna be okay making a ton of money, 646 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:55.559 will be on a sucky team scoring a lot of points everything twenty eight 647 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:59.559 points well, or be with a good team that has a chance to winning 648 00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:01.400 title. Well, I hope that if he's gonna make more money there, 649 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.719 I hope that the extra money he's gonna make is gonna make up for the 650 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.639 fact that he's not gonna win. That's what he's gonna making a ton of 651 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:13.119 money then score thirty points a game. And you know, if you and 652 00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.039 I, who never even sniff that kind of money though, you know, 653 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:21.800 I can sit here and say winning matters to me, I would you know, 654 00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:24.119 I should think, you know what, I'd rather make twenty million dollars 655 00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:30.360 and win than thirty million dollars and not win, correct, because but they 656 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:34.400 get used to having this money. Sure that when if they have twenty and 657 00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:37.599 they can go get thirty. Yeah, I'm gonna go get thirty. Sure 658 00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.880 right? Whereas you know, And I don't know if I was actually doing 659 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.840 that, how I would feel that way. If I would feel that way, 660 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:49.480 but I would feel like, you know, you know, legacy and 661 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:53.400 winning championships and getting rings and being able to walk away and say, you 662 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:57.960 know, I was a champion would would matter to me? I think, 663 00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.400 yeah, And if I'm making twenty million bucks, that's enough. But but 664 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.639 you but but I don't know. I'm not in that. You started this 665 00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.840 conversation, so you started the answer with the reason or with the perfect example. 666 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:10.840 I don't know, because I've never made that much money, and I 667 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:14.719 don't I know that I would. I don't know what I would do, 668 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:19.000 although I do love winning a lot. Yeah, so twenty versus thirty and 669 00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.719 being unhappy and happy, I would probably take the twenty and be great with 670 00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:27.000 be great and have fun with winning, and you know, and then it 671 00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:32.559 gets back to the whole AAU attitude. Just playing right, just playing and 672 00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:36.760 making the money is good enough. You know, so many kids and that's 673 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:39.960 what you hear is the rap on on AAU. These kids, they don't 674 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.519 care as much about winning as we used to care when we straight for our 675 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.440 high school teams or whatever team. Because they lose a game, well they 676 00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:51.639 got another one in another hour, and another one after that in another hour, 677 00:45:51.719 --> 00:45:53.000 and winning and losing doesn't matter as long as I get mine. And 678 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:57.320 don't forget the purpose of the EU is to be seen right, to be 679 00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.559 seen to get to the next many games as you possibly can, so you 680 00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.280 can get to the next level and make the money. And it's like someone 681 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.599 lost in there somewhere, is you know, winning the championship. And maybe 682 00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.920 part of that is, you know, our kids grew up getting participation trophies, 683 00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:15.880 which which yeah, which is not good to let me let me throw 684 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:19.320 this at you and just just a conversation, not about sports. So so 685 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:23.480 would you rather because it's happening now, would you rather um which you know 686 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:29.719 this is a make it clean you notice, would you rather get paid thirty 687 00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:34.800 bucks an hour to be a waiter bus guy or a waitress or whatever, 688 00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:39.599 or wait a server service great word, or get paid fifteen dollars an hour 689 00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:47.159 and tips no tips for thirty dollars. Right, I don't know because I 690 00:46:47.159 --> 00:46:51.960 I've never done that. I don't know. Forday, I didn't give me 691 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.079 the thirty man you think though, right, you think that? So now 692 00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:59.079 in Colorado, in Denver they have the people who did South Park, who 693 00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:04.800 owned South Park renovated this cool restaurant, old Ressian Mexican restaurant, UM forty 694 00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.320 put forty million dollars into the renovations. Yeah. Yeah, so they have 695 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:09.519 money obviously. So now they said, okay, guys, if you want 696 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:13.679 to work for us, now you got to sign this contract. You're only 697 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:15.800 gonna you're gonna get paid thirty bucks an hour, but no tips. Got 698 00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.840 a lot of people pissed because they guess they make a lot of tips. 699 00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.880 Well, then don't go to work there. And that was the option, 700 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.719 and that was the option, thirty bucks. Whether you make good tips or 701 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.480 not. You may not make it that day, but you're getting paid thirty 702 00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.239 bucks an hour if you that's one and it's stable. Yeah, that's one 703 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.559 that I said for you. If you don't want to work, don't go 704 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.480 work there, work, go work somewhere else for tips. That's up to 705 00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.840 you. You don't have to work. And that's some pretty good to be 706 00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.880 pissed about that bull Yeah, there's a lot of people bullcrap because it's like 707 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:47.880 that's you know, that's not your business, right and if somebody wants to 708 00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:52.320 go do that, then let them go do that. So there's that's what 709 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.039 they're saying. Well, some days we make well some days you won't. 710 00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:58.639 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, am I I'm 711 00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.920 you know, I'm a good tipper, but not everybody. Everybody is right, 712 00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:06.599 you know, I know, but that's a that's a conscious choice of 713 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.760 of what you want. I don't know because you know what, I've never 714 00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:14.320 I've never had one of those jobs or you know where you working tips. 715 00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:17.119 I mean I get tipped, you know, fifty cents when I go collect 716 00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:22.320 for my newspapers rout and you were having you know, it was it was 717 00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.320 a tip for the month. Right to give me an extra fifty cents or 718 00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:30.760 a dollar maybe, But I don't know, I don't know what i'd want 719 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.159 to do there again not having never worked, I never you know, I 720 00:48:34.199 --> 00:48:37.519 was never a delivery guy. I was never a server I worked. When 721 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.800 I worked at McDonald's, weren't allowed to accept tip because sometimes they'd want to 722 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:43.400 give you a tip. You know, you know, uh, you know 723 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:45.639 you take them there. You know they'd order and they go sit down and 724 00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:46.559 you take them their food. Well, no, they'd want to give you 725 00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.559 a bucket. I'm like, I can. Well, now now you have 726 00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.559 restaurants who have the little little key on you pay for something and ask for 727 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:58.599 you exactly turned the thing? Could you answer some questions for ten fifteen such 728 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.599 a I'm so out ridd and I go to subway, right, they make 729 00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.840 my sandwich. I should just be able to get my get my sandwich and 730 00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.199 going. Then the tip thing come up and I give them a freaking text 731 00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.119 right right right. They can't help myself. I get it. I get 732 00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:15.559 it. I'm not gonna say you whether I do or whether I don't depends. 733 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:19.519 It depends depends, you know. Um, but I've never not tipped 734 00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.719 somebody, even if they even if they get a bad job, I've always 735 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:27.800 given them something right right, Yeah, you know I may give somebody twenty 736 00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.760 five or thirty percent if you know, if they do a rookie job, 737 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:35.199 if they do a horrible job, I'll give them eighteen because I eighteen is 738 00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:38.000 my minimum. But then I got to do maths. Let's huge, but 739 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:43.199 uh, you know, but that's that's kind of my bottom. Like if 740 00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.239 you just got me my food and you don't spit in it, well you 741 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:49.119 don't know that well I know or I can't tell that you're spinning it. 742 00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:52.320 You're gonna get You're gonna get twenty percent from me. But if you do 743 00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:54.360 a really good job, you're gonna get twenty five. And your court you're 744 00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:57.400 happy, and you're because, let me tell you had a good time. 745 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.480 When you go to even to drive throughs now, it's like, I don't 746 00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:02.679 want to be here here, thank you, don't even get me started. 747 00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:07.199 And there they treat you like, what are you doing here? I'm here 748 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:13.280 to order food. Don't even get me going, man, don't even get 749 00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.679 me going. Because I was, I was one of McDonald's best employees ever 750 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:20.800 until until I just I just was. I just was like, these people 751 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:22.360 are coming here to eat, and they're coming here to, you know, 752 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:29.119 to feel good about eating. You don't want to wreck that right. You 753 00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:31.559 know, somebody, somebody's kid would barf in the you know, in the 754 00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:35.239 in the dining room, and you'd go clean it up. But I wouldn't 755 00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.960 give them. I wouldn't give the parents a dirty loof, like, okay, 756 00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.039 your kid barfed, Okay, let's clean it up. There was a 757 00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:45.079 lot of that, okay. I didn't have playpens when you were there, 758 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:50.079 didn't the playgrounds. We had the first playground in Twisons, the first McDonald's 759 00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.119 playground in Twisons. It wasn't like the indoor ones. It was an outdoor 760 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:57.440 what with that merry go round that you could die on the slide that would 761 00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:00.519 burn your butt. After the jungle gym that if you got to the top 762 00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:04.800 and you fell to the bottom after a time, Okay, there we gonna 763 00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:06.960 go. All right, let's get out of here. We're gonna take our 764 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:08.320 break. We're gonna come back. We're gonna have some breaking news and there's 765 00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:12.159 said all kinds of stuff, so be sure to come back for that and 766 00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.599 we'll we'll hopefully entertain you a little more tick around