1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:15,279 What is going on, Clippers fans. We are doing a bit of a 2 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:24,160 live to talk Kawhi Leonard being ruled out against the Nuggets. The team tweeted 3 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:31,480 out weirdly a little early for the seven PM game that Kawhi Leonard has been 4 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:38,079 ruled out with knee soreness against Denver. Joshua Primo also out for those of 5 00:00:38,119 --> 00:00:42,320 you wondering about such things. But yeah, Adam oz is going to join 6 00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:46,600 in a second. I'm Chuck Wackler. This sucks pretty hard. I don't 7 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,880 know if we're gonna do this as a podcast episode, so maybe we're just 8 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,520 gonna be fucking around on the live. What's up, data man? He 9 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:59,479 says, WTF. Yeah? Not ideal? Ideal for sure. I feel 10 00:00:59,479 --> 00:01:03,359 like an idiot. I went on Bleacher Report app this morning and was like, 11 00:01:03,439 --> 00:01:06,840 I think he's just ruled out because they want an extra day of rest 12 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:10,640 before this five and seven starts. Not to pile on, but the Clippers 13 00:01:10,719 --> 00:01:15,719 do have a five and seven starting today. They play the Nuggets, and 14 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:19,120 then they play the Jazz, and then they play the Calves I believe, 15 00:01:23,159 --> 00:01:27,480 yep, and then the Suns and then the Suns. So this isn't ideal. 16 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,280 J bo's Eddie four saying, how worried should we be? I don't 17 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,400 know. I feel pretty not good right now. This is again pretty live. 18 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,000 I'm trying to find the Law Murray quotes from Tie about the knee. 19 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:52,719 Also support your local beat writers. Shout out to law Murray, fantastic beat 20 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:59,319 reporter. Someone's asking is there a chance he's out for the playoffs. I 21 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:05,519 don't think we need to go there yet. Let's not Douglas. Let's not 22 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:13,240 totally lose it at that level yet. I understand a feeling, but yeah, 23 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:21,639 I don't think we should be worried about that for the playoffs. Yeah, 24 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:29,840 So here is the timeline for this is yesterday. Tylu said that the 25 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:35,759 knee issue came up Sunday in Charlotte, so it's been a handful of days. 26 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,599 Totally agree Jabo's so it's been a handful of days. So it reared 27 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:50,599 up, came up in Charlotte, assuming that it happened in game. I 28 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,919 apologize Carlos. I wish I could do this whole thing in Spanish, but 29 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,879 I can't. I can do a very small part of it, and it 30 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,919 will not be very good. So I'm gonna stay to uh English right now? 31 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,680 Los CIENTO. Yeah, I came up in Sunday have to as see 32 00:03:07,719 --> 00:03:13,800 what happened during the game, and he was ruled out and I think it 33 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,800 was you know, it's not crazy. He should have it was gonna be 34 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:23,000 on three days rest. But again they're on a five and seven, so 35 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:30,400 that doesn't really feel good. Level of concern right now, I don't know, 36 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:34,680 seven out of ten, maybe eight out of ten. Adam or Will's 37 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:40,039 gonna hop on at some point. Here's Wilbert Beltran, who I think has 38 00:03:40,039 --> 00:03:43,479 been in the last couple of streams what's up lit where he said this seems 39 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:46,840 like maintenance and preventative. I think we should sit James and PG this game 40 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:53,240 also, especially games I don't maybe James. James should get some rest. 41 00:03:53,319 --> 00:03:55,919 James looks exhausted. The shoulder doesn't seem like it's totally right. He just 42 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,520 doesn't look like himself. He's got the finger jam ish you. But there's 43 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:02,400 larger issues at play right now with James Harden. He looks very tired, 44 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:09,080 no disrespect, he's eaten, and it's for this Clippers team. I would 45 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,000 like this idea more if the Clippers had any semblance of playing well right, 46 00:04:14,159 --> 00:04:16,879 Like, it's not It's not like the Clippers are in the midst of a 47 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,040 stretch where we know that they're showing good process from start to finish, and 48 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,160 if they lose this game poorly, you know, it's just kind of because 49 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:30,120 whatever the Nuggets are good, we have nothing to really be super encouraged about. 50 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:38,639 Like if they sit James Harden and PG, this game means absolutely nothing, 51 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,199 and the Clippers need it to mean something, right Like we need to 52 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:46,439 see some level of championship play. It would have been great to see it 53 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,160 fully squatted up against this Nuggets team. But we're al Kawai, So I 54 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:56,879 don't think the Clippers can afford to just completely punt this game. They have 55 00:04:56,959 --> 00:05:00,600 other games they might punt before the end of this season. They play the 56 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Calves. Sorry, I think the Rockets at twelve for thirty the last game 57 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:08,600 of the season. I don't think that game is going to be incredibly that's 58 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,120 like to be super competitive. They have two games against the Suns, that's 59 00:05:11,199 --> 00:05:15,040 nice, that's real games. The game before the Nuggets or the game before 60 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,000 the Rockets is the Jazz. Like, the Clippers can't afford to just like 61 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:24,279 sit these guys, and I'm not attacking you personally, Wilbert. I understand 62 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:29,399 this is not a bad idea. James needs rest, but the Clippers just 63 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:35,959 don't have good enough process to afford to just kick this game right. Like 64 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,000 they need to look good against good teams, which they did for a little 65 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:46,160 bit against Orlando for sure, we had the Qui takeover, but they haven't 66 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,680 looked start to finish good against a good team in a while, which is 67 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:55,639 disappointing. I'm usually more positive than this, but it hasn't been very good 68 00:05:55,879 --> 00:06:03,480 U. So yeah, it's just it's a lot. So this is the 69 00:06:03,519 --> 00:06:10,720 weird part. No, I can't but whatever, that's where we are. 70 00:06:10,879 --> 00:06:15,600 It's they took care of business earlier in the regular season and now I don't 71 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:24,600 know, we're feeling maybe the effects of well, it's nice getting so much 72 00:06:24,639 --> 00:06:30,759 time from Kawhi MPG Kawhi specifically in this one. Again if you're just joining 73 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:39,560 the scream Kawhi Leonard ruled out for the Clippers game against the Nuggets tomorrow. 74 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,160 Yeah, I don't know. They were supposed to give away stress balls at 75 00:06:43,199 --> 00:06:46,279 this game and they moved that to a different game. Bring them back. 76 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,959 Give away the stress balls tomorrow that we need it. We need the stress 77 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,959 balls. Will and Adam and I are also going to be at the game 78 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,879 tomorrow. If you're not sobbing because of how the Clippers look without Kawhi, 79 00:06:58,879 --> 00:07:03,839 come say what's up? So I'm not putting the comment up, but someone 80 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:11,800 is saying that we should trade Kawhi for picks. Sure, yeah, I 81 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,319 don't know. I hope this is maintenance. I'll bring the wilbrit take back 82 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,120 up. I hope this is maintenance, uh or preventative, Like we just 83 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,319 don't We're not gonna get any answers. Is the other part. I want 84 00:07:21,319 --> 00:07:27,079 to maybe set I want to maybe level set on what people are gonna ask 85 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:32,279 about at by people, I mean fans, because we're not reporters. We 86 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:35,120 just we kind of cover the team, Hey, Junction, Hi, Chuck. 87 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:40,519 We cover the team, but we're not, you know, beat reporters 88 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,480 or anything like that. So we don't want to step on any toes for 89 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,319 questions. But like people on Twitter, Clippers fans are gonna be asking how 90 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,680 long is Kui gonna be out, what's the extent of the injury? Who? 91 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,680 Again, we're not gonna get any answers. And just like that, 92 00:07:56,759 --> 00:08:00,959 one of the other hosts of this fantastic Pug Animals on is here joining the 93 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,639 show. Adam, what's up? But did you just get back from the 94 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,800 gym? I don't know if Adam can hear me, which is very funny. 95 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:11,800 I got you check you got me? Yeah? Were you just at 96 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,800 the gym? I was okay, I don't get the news. I saw 97 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:22,800 you. I saw a whelp in the chat log and I heard about Norman 98 00:08:22,879 --> 00:08:26,600 Palace starting and I was like, uh oh, Joey Lynn was the first 99 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:28,879 tweet I saw about it. How are you? What's your level of concern? 100 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:37,679 Huge idea. It's his right knee. That was the first thing I 101 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:39,960 texted when I heard he was going to be out last game. It's not 102 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:48,080 just the acl there, it's the meniscus and it's the tendonopathy that is where 103 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,360 he's had all his issues. So how can you not be fully concerned? 104 00:08:52,480 --> 00:09:00,960 Their playoff hopes, championship hopes are hinged and hanging on to Kawhi Leonard and 105 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,120 his health and that right knee. I don't want this error to be defined 106 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:11,639 just by injuries with this Clippers team. That's what scares me. Uh Now, 107 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,639 we don't want to speculate. I heard if there was an MRI or 108 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,840 anything like that, right, No, So that's what I was kind of 109 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:22,200 saying. I was kind of level setting, like expectations, like the questions 110 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,720 are going to be how long is he going to be out? They're not 111 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:30,000 going to tell us. Well, I think we'll probably learn about MRI stuff. 112 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,399 My guess would be pregame tomorrow, get the extent of it from coach 113 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,799 lou then if it's anything more Lawrence Frank, but hopefully not. I don't 114 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:45,720 want the Lawrence Frank impromptu presser again. Was that this year or last year 115 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:48,960 that that happened where Lawrence Frank was just like he was just like, hey, 116 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:54,759 I'm talking I think it was last year. Yeah, I don't want 117 00:09:54,799 --> 00:10:01,360 that. Yeah. I He's been moving so well. Just the last couple 118 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,639 of games. We were just talking about how much more Poppet looked like he 119 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:09,519 had in the high five. We were talking about the blowboy he had on 120 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,720 Miles Bridges. He had to come back in in that fourth quarter because the 121 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:20,600 Clippers let go of a nineteen point lead early on in the fourth against Charlotte. 122 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:26,720 Ah, it's just brutal right now, Clibernation. Feel your pain. 123 00:10:26,799 --> 00:10:31,559 That's why we're here doing the live Yeah, it sucks. I was saying 124 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,759 they should. They need to bring the Stress Ball giveaway back tomorrow. They 125 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:39,879 moved that to a Sun's game. Wait, here's here's an idea. Here's 126 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:43,200 a tinfoil hat theory. You're not more stress during a PACTV game, Chuck, 127 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,639 Oh, well, look, let's you can't compare apples the warngers here. 128 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:54,080 That's a different kind of stress at that ball's like at Epcot Center. 129 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:58,200 Yeah, I'm bear I'm uh yeah, I'm hugging that thing. When did 130 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:05,120 they decide to move the giveaway? We gotta figure that out. I have 131 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,799 no idea. Nina Shake says, are you kidding me? No? Or 132 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,240 not? I wish we were kidding. I wish this tweet was two days 133 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,879 ago. And then they hit us within April fools. But alast it is 134 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:20,600 April third when I heard perhaps Fool's Day. For all us Clippers fans, 135 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,720 the hope is it's knee soreness in the sense that it was with Paul George 136 00:11:26,799 --> 00:11:30,519 that eventually he worked through and he's on the other side of it now and 137 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,360 you can see the difference. But we're talking about the playoffs starting the first 138 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,360 round? What four twenty I think that's actually the date. I'm not making 139 00:11:37,399 --> 00:11:43,679 it d Yeah, So is that just over two and a half weeks from 140 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:52,679 now? Yeah? Yeah, seventeen days. I kept talking about how you 141 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,960 know, the off time between the end of the regular season and the five 142 00:11:58,039 --> 00:12:01,039 or six days before the first round starts could do wonders for this team. 143 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,600 Obviously, now they need that more than ever. You can't fall into the 144 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:13,480 plan because you need that time to rest these guys. But they need to 145 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,879 hold onto the forcepot still and they need to play well. I was saying, 146 00:12:16,919 --> 00:12:18,840 someone was saying earlier, Mike Kyramiro is a saying should they sit PG? 147 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:24,440 Someone suggested sitting PG and Harden and just punting this game. But we 148 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,320 don't have good process to go off of. So I don't think the Clippers 149 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,399 can just chalk this game up as an automatic out, like, right, 150 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,639 can't this game? You can't. We're not playing well enough to be like 151 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,399 here's a piece from four games ago, Like here's this four game block in 152 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,120 the last twenty games where we loved how we looked. We don't have that 153 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,320 to like build off of it. We just let this one go. Well, 154 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,799 look, if there's a game you want to rest, guys, it's 155 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,879 Friday against Utah, and you should still be able to find a way to 156 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,759 win that. That would be the goal in my mind, because again, 157 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,000 you're not just trying to beat the Denver Nuggets to re capture some of that 158 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,919 magic they had during the twenty six and five stretch. Well, they did 159 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:11,919 beat Denver fully loaded. You need to beat Denver to send them down into 160 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,600 the two three spot in the West, so you don't, if you're lucky 161 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,799 enough to get past the first round, have to deal with them in the 162 00:13:18,799 --> 00:13:22,159 second round. I know that's looking ahead a little bit, but it's a 163 00:13:22,159 --> 00:13:26,840 big part of the equation. I think path of least resistance matters. And 164 00:13:26,879 --> 00:13:28,799 they're hanging on to the number one seed. They're up a half game right 165 00:13:28,799 --> 00:13:33,840 now because they have played one more game than OKC in Minnesota, they don't 166 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,519 have the tiebreaker against OKC. It's very possible that they could be in that 167 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:43,120 two three and you can help that happen with a win tomorrow if they don't 168 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,000 have Jamal Murray playing tomorrow, who's been out. I mean, they were 169 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,759 in a close one against the San Antonio Spurs last night, even with Nikola 170 00:13:52,840 --> 00:14:01,080 Jokic having what forty and fifteen or something like that. Yeah, it's a 171 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:05,600 huge game still, and it's an opportunity to prove they're three and four right 172 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,960 now without Kawhi Leonard. And it's more so just the eye test of how 173 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,840 they have looked in those games without him, where their principles just fall by 174 00:14:13,879 --> 00:14:20,360 the wayside, where they don't play well defensively at all. Because as bad 175 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,720 as they have been on the defensive end since the Grammy road trip, we've 176 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:30,039 been talking about it at nauseum, but that's really the line of demarcation where 177 00:14:30,039 --> 00:14:35,840 things change for this Clippers team. February sixth is when they came back from 178 00:14:35,879 --> 00:14:39,519 the road trip. They're twenty eighth defensively since then, and they're really twenty 179 00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:43,879 eighth in their last thirty two games are in the numbers on that earlier today. 180 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:45,879 But if we just go off the Grammy road trip, where their last 181 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:50,679 twenty six games are thirteen and thirteen, their defensive rating is about one point 182 00:14:50,679 --> 00:14:58,120 eighteen over that time. Now, if you check out the difference Kawhi Leonard 183 00:14:58,159 --> 00:15:03,519 makes in the on off numbers to their defense and how much better they are 184 00:15:03,799 --> 00:15:09,799 just when he has been on the court. On the court, they go 185 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:16,039 from being basically one twenty the last couple of months, so one eleven with 186 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:22,559 him on the court at least on the season. So they're much better with 187 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:28,399 Kawhi Leonard out there, but the personnel still be enough. It's not just 188 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,600 that Kawhi Leonard is this defensive savant, which he is. There's something more 189 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:35,799 going on. They forget how to play basketball when he's not out there. 190 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:41,000 They're just they don't. We heard the same thing from Tye yesterday postgame, 191 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,519 specifically about the offensive rebounds. He's like, guys, don't Guys weren't cracking 192 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:48,679 back when Zoo was challenging or going for a block, And like Kawhi does 193 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,600 those things and then those it's just so much worse when he's off. I 194 00:15:52,679 --> 00:15:58,240 couldn't stand the fact that yesterday, yeah, I was saying it before I 195 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:00,519 heard that from Coach Lou postgame, and that was me in the opening segment 196 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:06,159 saying, like, guys, the least you can do when you let your 197 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:07,919 man go by you, so Zoo has to make up for it at the 198 00:16:08,039 --> 00:16:12,120 rim and go to block that shot is to then help him out and box 199 00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:17,720 his man out afterwards. That's the least you can do. And they weren't 200 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,440 even doing that and haven't been doing that. That's man, that's really disheartening 201 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,679 to see from this Clippers team right now. I'm trying to get an update 202 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:32,120 now on Jamal Murray and see where he's now. He's had a knee injury 203 00:16:32,159 --> 00:16:36,000 too. I don't know if it's listed as knee soreness. Do we have 204 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:38,480 two players in this game that could be making missing it for the same reason, 205 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,399 And I don't know if it's his acl knee. You know, that's 206 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,799 just what concerns me more when I hear it's his right knee with Kawhi that's 207 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,879 so. Yeah, someone in the lot and the comments is saying, do 208 00:16:51,919 --> 00:16:53,679 you think it's super seriously just playing it safe. I think the fact that 209 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:57,840 it's in the right knee is a very fair thing to be worried about because 210 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:03,279 it's the same knee. Yeah, I mean, we don't know, because 211 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:10,160 it could just be wearing tear, knee soreness. He hasn't played wear in 212 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:15,200 tear, He hasn't played this many games. It could just be a taxing 213 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,440 long regular season where he hasn't played this many games since twenty sixteen, twenty 214 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:26,240 seventeen with San Antonio Spurs and him just feeling a little bit worn down. 215 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:33,640 Jamal Murray is questionable, so not out, but I bet they keep him 216 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,640 out now if they know Kawhi Leonard's out, why would they press things? 217 00:17:37,039 --> 00:17:40,720 Right? Yeah, they have a handful of games left too, they can. 218 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:44,319 I mean there also, there's no reason to exactly fear the Clippers without 219 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,160 Kawhi right now, there's not, and they need to change that. Well. 220 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,519 Obviously, if you don't have Kawhi Leonard in a playoff run, you're 221 00:17:52,559 --> 00:18:00,559 not winning the championship anyways. Correct. They still need to show that your 222 00:18:00,599 --> 00:18:04,720 identity can remain even when you're missing one player. That's typically how you get 223 00:18:04,759 --> 00:18:08,559 by. That's how it was in past years where they didn't have Kawhi for 224 00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:12,720 the entire season, where they had Paul George for thirty one games in the 225 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,759 twenty one to twenty two season, and they still ended up I think eighth 226 00:18:17,839 --> 00:18:23,079 defensively, like that was their identity stepping up being a tough mind defensive team 227 00:18:23,839 --> 00:18:30,599 and coming up with big comebacks and clutch moments. That's who they were regardless 228 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,079 of who was out there, the whole was greater than the sum of its 229 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,920 parts. Now it seems like the other way around. It's just fractured. 230 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,160 Or Yeah, there's they, for whatever reason, the more talented Clippers team, 231 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:52,079 but that talent isn't coalescing and coming together and at least the last two 232 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:57,039 months making up for you know, the fact that one guy's out. If 233 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:00,799 you have Paul George, do you have James Harden, if you have Russ 234 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:06,160 coming off the bench, you should be better than this. That Sacramento King's 235 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:11,400 team was missing two of their big maybe one of their big three, but 236 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:18,039 they were missing you know, two guys ancillary, huge role players in Kevin 237 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,240 Herder and Malik Monk. Yeah, and what they did or what they do 238 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,640 their makeup still remained. It was still there. You could see it last 239 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,720 night. The way they play was still evident that that was King's basketball. 240 00:19:32,519 --> 00:19:36,319 That needs to happen for the Clippers. Yeah. I tweeted it out from 241 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,640 the show account, like are we going to get the how do we play 242 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,440 basketball? Clippers? Or the backs against our wall Clippers? And I hate 243 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,039 that I have to even ask the question this late in the season. Is 244 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:51,000 what's a little frustrating. Greg was a great point here, Jamal is playing 245 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,440 as a player list question, I ever missed the game against the Clippers A 246 00:19:53,559 --> 00:20:00,000 very good point. Uh, Gregy, Yeah, it's weird. It doesn't 247 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:03,799 feel good right now at all. Well, this was the test of whether 248 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,200 or not it was just getting Kawhi Leonard a little bit more rest because there's 249 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,559 a five and seven coming up. It's late in the season. Things are 250 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:17,839 looking pretty good for you being the four seed. There are two games up, 251 00:20:17,839 --> 00:20:21,599 but really three games up because they have a tiebreaker over Dallas. Yeah, 252 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,200 and maybe they were just getting him a little bit of rest against Sacramento, 253 00:20:25,279 --> 00:20:29,119 but because of the importance of the Denver Nuggets game for multiple reasons, 254 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,000 this was the test of seeing, oh, was it something more than just 255 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:37,799 giving him a little bit of rest. That's where the concern I think comes 256 00:20:37,799 --> 00:20:41,720 in because some people wrote this off as load management. Some people wrote this 257 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:45,519 off as just yeah, it's Kawhi's turn to get a break, just like 258 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:52,640 it was against the Golden State Warriors right before the All Star Break. Yeah. 259 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,079 Yeah, And people are clinging to the rest idea that they're just resting 260 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:02,000 Kawhi. But I mean they have a five and seven like they need. 261 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:06,359 They don't. Again, there's no precedent that they're gonna like they can build 262 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:12,519 on right now. It's very possible. It's still not some huge issue with 263 00:21:12,559 --> 00:21:18,000 the knee, and they do just need to get him rest. Nuggets be 264 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:23,240 damned. I just look at that game as being significant because it's a team 265 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,079 the Clippers have had issues against, and it's a way to build confidence down 266 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,799 the stretch heading into the playoffs. If they could get a win against Denver, 267 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,240 it would completely make up for what happened against the Sacramento Kings the other 268 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,519 night. You beat the Denver Nuggets, you're more than happy. Yeah, 269 00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:44,200 you would have won four or five. Yeah, absent regards, says Tucker, 270 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:49,839 will guard Yokis for stretches tomorrow. Adam's dream becoming a reality is never 271 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:56,839 said. It was my dream, son of a bitch. I don't. 272 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,000 Yeah. So that's the backup center rotation that we don't know what the lineups. 273 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:03,640 Yeah, we don't know what's gonna happen in the playoffs race Marlin. 274 00:22:04,319 --> 00:22:07,079 So I don't like you guys mentioned it, but Windhorse hinted on his podcast, 275 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,559 and it was serious enough for him to have to fly back to LA 276 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,240 to get it examined. Well, that's just a fact that he flew back 277 00:22:15,279 --> 00:22:18,640 to LA. We don't know if he got it examined, but we know 278 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,559 he got treatment. That's what they came out with. I believe the quote 279 00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:25,680 from Ty's better treatment was what he said, if you really want But I'm 280 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,240 not getting into the minutial with that. It's a forty five minute flight. 281 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,319 I didn't put a ton into that. Yeah, it's not going I'm not 282 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,079 reading a lot into that. He's not gonna let he's not having Yeah, 283 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:41,319 there's no layovers on the flight that he's doing to get it right. And 284 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:45,599 you have a home stand coming up. There's one more game road, There's 285 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,880 one more game on the road in Phoenix. That's it. Yeah, last 286 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,400 seven. You would think that would be very encouraging, but of course they 287 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:59,319 lost their last five games at home. I still don't buy into the maybe 288 00:22:59,319 --> 00:23:02,359 we're a better road team, we should start on the road, And coach 289 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,720 lou did say that one of his postgame pressers recently, maybe we should maybe 290 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,079 we should start on the road. But I think he was just in a 291 00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:14,200 sour mood after a rough loss that was after what happened last week, and 292 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,640 I believe with the back to back losses at home. Yeah, he man, 293 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,640 he has been in a sour mood rightfully, so yeah, the past 294 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:29,759 couple weeks, which sucks. He definitely seemed more upbeat and encouraged by some 295 00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:33,920 things last night postgame. I was a little bit surprised by he thought. 296 00:23:33,319 --> 00:23:37,640 They did play some good defense here and there, and then the floodgates eventually 297 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,480 broke. But you look at the numbers in that game against the Sacramento Kings 298 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,440 without Kawhi Leonard Kawhi Leonard granted, and they're tied at twenty four at the 299 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:53,000 end of a tough shooting first quarter for everybody. But by the end of 300 00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:57,160 it, the Kings were twelve for forty two. I think there was something 301 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:02,240 like eleven for thirty three from three heading into that fourth quarter. They weren't 302 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,279 shooting it great, it was just they were getting extra opportunities. They got 303 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,440 up sixteen more shots than the Clippers because of all the offensive rebounds when the 304 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,680 Clippers gave up twenty, So it wasn't like they weren't getting a stop initially 305 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:18,400 they were. They weren't closing out and ending the possession by getting a board. 306 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,839 Yeah, and I like what you said, it's not like they weren't 307 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:22,720 playing like for a part of it. I think it was the first half 308 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,720 you said, like, it's not that they're playing hard, they're not playing 309 00:24:26,759 --> 00:24:32,039 smart, which when you look at the turnovers, is I think a nice 310 00:24:32,039 --> 00:24:36,359 indicay it was. Yeah, some of those I want to attribute to mental 311 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,119 fatigue. Some of the ones James Harden having five turnovers to eight assists when 312 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,240 he just had a ten assist to zero turnover game. Some of the turnovers 313 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:49,039 with Russ having three of them in the third quarter were brutal where he's just 314 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,079 flying down the lane and throwing it away to the defense looking for Paul George. 315 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,119 Even Norm having a really bad one in the third quarter, some of 316 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,240 those could have been mental fatigue. One foot out the doors the final game 317 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,599 of the road trip. I don't want to explain it away like that and 318 00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:14,000 make excuses for them, but it does happen here and there to everyone, 319 00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:18,440 and the Clippers have been better overall. I think they just had eight turnovers. 320 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,039 That's it against the Charlotte Hornets in that contest. Before you can say 321 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:26,519 it's the Hornets but for the most part this season, especially at this point, 322 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,759 I don't care who it's against us late in the season, we need 323 00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:36,319 to look good. Like the Celtics barely beat them the very next night when 324 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,279 they have the Hornets on a back to back. So do their fans do 325 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,240 the same thing and say, that's not a very good victory and we should 326 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:45,240 have won with more style points. When you look into the details of everybody 327 00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:53,839 else, you know there are flawed wins or scheduled type of losses by every 328 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,960 team in the league when you get into the nitty gritty and look at their 329 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,000 schedule on a granular level, like you do the Clippers. But because we're 330 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,160 more focused on them, we tend to be much more critical. Of course, 331 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:11,079 Yeah, oh, I like this idea that Coffee. I don't know, 332 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,400 maybe I don't like to see a Coffee should start over norm tomorrow, 333 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:22,960 Norm tomorrow, if Jamal Murray is playing the defense, if I predict maybe 334 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:29,200 a double digit deficit in the first quarter. Coffee had a really rough game 335 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,119 against Sacramento. Also, by the way, as I thought, the last 336 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,319 three games before that, he'd been turning a corner a little bit, and 337 00:26:37,519 --> 00:26:41,240 Aamir was bad on both ends. One of six from the field, one 338 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,440 of four from the outside. He led them in. The plus minus was 339 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,279 a minus eighteen out there had just one made shot, it was a three 340 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:52,359 pointer. But his defense wasn't very good. I thought Terrence Man had some 341 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,559 pretty good defense at times on deeron Fox and really took the challenge. He 342 00:26:56,599 --> 00:27:00,480 got mad at himself when Fox got that little fall away in the paint where 343 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,200 he thought he had it defended every which way. And of course he's Darren 344 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,519 Fox, that's what he can do. But if Jamal Murray is playing, 345 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,759 yeah, I could definitely see that you lean into defense then, and a 346 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:17,160 mere Coffee has been starting games whenever, at least at times when Kawhi has 347 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,160 been out, and definitely when Paul George has been out this season. Yeah, 348 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,759 yeah, Amir is just I don't know. He's up and down. 349 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,720 He's got the size though, but the wingspan's not really there. It's a 350 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:36,839 wonky roster right now, which people are being upset about. Yeah. I'm 351 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,559 seeing people say, like I told you we should have got that athletic power 352 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:42,079 forward. Cool, how did they do it? What's who's the guy? 353 00:27:42,759 --> 00:27:49,440 It's very easy to say that without any specifics or any bit of realistic possibility 354 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,359 in there of a team that's actually willing to give one up for what with 355 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,480 the Clippers, you want to give away their last first round pick until twenty 356 00:27:57,559 --> 00:28:00,519 thirty till twenty thirty one, I guess because it would be the twenty thirty 357 00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:07,279 pick. Man. People are also the arena opening next year with how this 358 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:15,400 year is ending, is tense. If I were the person opening the arena, 359 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,480 I would say things do not seem to be trending how I wanted them 360 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:26,000 to. Well, the year is still the season is still yet to be 361 00:28:26,079 --> 00:28:32,000 defined. Yes, rights, what happens in the playoffs is ultimately how people 362 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,839 are going to look back on this season and remember it sure could still go 363 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,920 one of two ways, this rut that they've been in, and the contracts, 364 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,960 whatever happens with PG and Harden's contracts. Yeah, but I just mean 365 00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:52,799 on the court, is anyone going to remember what has happened in the defensive 366 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,759 numbers the last two months? If they get to the Western Conference finals, 367 00:28:56,799 --> 00:29:00,000 is anybody going to be talking about that? No? You can zero on 368 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:07,240 the record. Yeah you will be, and that's fair. But that's your 369 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:14,960 baby race, Marlin. Yeah, I love this take. If there actually 370 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,319 is a switch tomorrow against some uggles to be a tremendous time to flip it. 371 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,000 Just flip the switch early, what it will say. If the switch 372 00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:25,599 is so easy to flip, let's flip the switch a little early. There's 373 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,960 not that much time left before the playoffs. I don't think pg's playing every 374 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,480 game from here on out. I bet guys sit that last game, the 375 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,400 twelve thirty game. But yeah, let's flip it. Everyone else flipped the 376 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,519 switch. Kawhi has shown you how to do it. Let's do it. 377 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,880 It's just hard to replicate postseason basketball in the regular season. It's just very 378 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:52,240 difficult. But no, you're right. If it's that easy, if it's 379 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,480 just about desire, if it's about effort, if it's about a mindset, 380 00:29:56,839 --> 00:30:04,440 why not just get there now? Why wait? Things already are getting dire, 381 00:30:06,319 --> 00:30:11,440 Desperate times call for desperate measures. Flip the switch, flip the switch, 382 00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:18,160 and really, you know, on our last show, we were talking 383 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,720 about our biggest concerns, and I mentioned James Harden and his play and just 384 00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:30,759 how he looks out there, and he goes one for seven against the Kings 385 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:36,279 and had those five turnovers to eight assists. I was gonna say, you 386 00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:38,400 know, I'm more concerned about that, but obviously now I'm thinking about Kawhi 387 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:44,240 Leonard and the right knee. But in terms of things that could change tomorrow, 388 00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:47,240 they need a great James Harden game. They need Paul George to take 389 00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,119 more than twelve shots. I know he didn't play in the fourth quarter, 390 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,720 but twelve shots is still not enough. Come out firing. If you're gonna 391 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,400 lose without Kawhi Leonard, at least play the right way, please. That's 392 00:31:00,279 --> 00:31:03,880 Clipper Nation is looking for. That's a great call. Yeah, good process. 393 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,319 We just want good process. We need good process right now. Like 394 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,920 they've built up twenty bad habits, can you undo them in time? With 395 00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:22,559 seven games left, I think you can have a spirited victory in the fashion 396 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:29,119 the Clippers have in past seasons, and that can rally you and galvanize you 397 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,720 down the stretch and be meaningful. That's the opportunity that is in front of 398 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:37,160 them taking on the Denver Nuggets. You know, if Jamal Murray's not playing, 399 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,640 if you take them down without Kawhi Leonard, I'm putting a feather in 400 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:48,640 my cap. A great victory that's a great victory if you get your first 401 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,799 win at home in what three weeks? A month? How long has it 402 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,480 been since they last won a home game? Now since they won lost five 403 00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:02,759 in a row. Yeah, give the fans something to hold onto and something 404 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:07,519 to cheer about. I've heard people critics as well. Some of it's on 405 00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,119 the Clippers fans, but they haven't been playing good ball at home. Okay. 406 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,200 So the last two were obviously Indiana in Philadelphia. Before that, it 407 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:20,079 was the bad loss to Atlanta. Before that, they came up small against 408 00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:27,039 Minnesota. Before that it was Milwaukee. So there's your last five losses. 409 00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,359 So the last win at home, and that Milwaukee game was without Kawhi, 410 00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:35,160 without Paul George. The last win at home came against Chicago. The day 411 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:42,400 before that was on March night. It has almost been a month since they 412 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:49,880 won a game at home. It's time. I'm excited to be in the 413 00:32:50,839 --> 00:32:57,079 Yeah, please please dig deep. Don't come out and give up sixty points 414 00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:02,039 in transition and twenty two extra field goal attempts to the Nuggets, because part 415 00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:07,920 of me thinks that might happen more. It's been the same issues. James 416 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,799 Harden last night was talking about them giving up extra opportunities the defense. When 417 00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:16,920 he was asked last night about what's the one thing I think this was a 418 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:23,400 question from OM that you'd like to see return from what they had during the 419 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:29,359 twenty six and five stretch in thirty one games, and he said defense. 420 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,680 I think it could come down to just their defense being what sparks their offense 421 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,400 and gets them easier shots. And it all starts there. And they're good 422 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,599 enough still without Kawhi Leonard to play much better defense than what we've seen over 423 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:50,160 the last two months. For the most part, it has been there at 424 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,480 times. Look against Orlando there was good defense played. I know Kawhi was 425 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,799 there for that. I told you, yeah, I agree. I brought 426 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:58,039 that up earlier. I was like, Orlando, was there some pieces of 427 00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:00,640 the game where you really like take away from that game? Stuff to take 428 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:08,519 away from Philly. They're more than capable even without Kawhi Leonard. Ugh, 429 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:16,559 they are, we know they are. I yesterday, what was the quotes 430 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:24,719 yesterday that made me feel uneasy? Hold on? Uh? It was something 431 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:31,000 different from what Lou said and what PG said. So they were asked about 432 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,559 like how the you know, the road trip went, or whatever, and 433 00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,800 Tyler said, I mean great trip three and one. Coming out on this 434 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,760 trip to go three and one, I thought it was a really good trip 435 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,519 for us. Paul George was asked the same thing, if they learned about 436 00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,400 their identity and toughness as a team went three and one over his trip. 437 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:47,920 This is from Justin Russo's piece, and he said, I'm not sure. 438 00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:52,280 It's a question you have to ask TYLERU of where he thinks we're at at 439 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,840 this point. I just still think those two quotes do not sound like two 440 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,559 people feeling some Potti Cob the team is there. Maybe he's a little bit 441 00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:07,800 sore over Coach lou postgame saying, you know, ask PG now ask him 442 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,079 about that identity now, I don't know. Obviously didn't need to get on 443 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:17,559 the same page. They got to come together. It's a really difficult time 444 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:23,519 for this team after so long of having Kawhi Leonard being so reliable for them 445 00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:30,840 all year long, and look this good and now it's the worst case scenario. 446 00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:32,239 At the moment, we don't know the extent of it, but we 447 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,000 just know he's going to be out for this game and it is the right 448 00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:40,639 knee. Come together be resilient right now, Joe, mental toughness. Now, 449 00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:46,519 this is what they used to do all the time. So you know, 450 00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:50,559 I've mentioned how they built up some bad habits over the years, but 451 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,400 and that's hard to do away with in one season. Well, this was 452 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,800 a good habit. This was something an area that you to thrive in when 453 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,199 the Chips were down. This Clippers team finding ways to win ball games when 454 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:15,199 they were counted out. I hope. All I have is hope. All 455 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,480 we have is hope right now. We have no real evidence. We just 456 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:22,880 have hope. Yeah. The hope is Kawhi Leonard is nothing too serious and 457 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:35,360 that the Clippers find themselves again with this. Did you do that or fake 458 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,920 some levity a little bit? You know, things works over. I guess 459 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:45,360 that's good. We're all concerned right now, Clipper Nation, of course. 460 00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:54,400 All I just want time to get right for all Kawhi, which is unfortunate. 461 00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,119 It's two and a half weeks about from now until the start of the 462 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,800 first round. I don't want to see them starting the first round on the 463 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,239 road in Dallas, though, and that is very possible if he misses extended 464 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,159 a period of time where now we're talking about you know, four or five 465 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,239 games here so far, it's been one. We know it's at least going 466 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,760 to be two. I would, you know, I don't know about what's 467 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,119 going to happen Friday night against the Utah Jazz, second night of a back 468 00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:28,599 to back. Are they really gonna bring Kawhi Leonard back for that? But 469 00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:32,119 look, we've gotten some scares with him this season with his wrist. Let's 470 00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:37,960 think about this with his wrist, with his back injury, and he came 471 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,440 back the very next day and it didn't turn out to be that serious. 472 00:37:44,199 --> 00:37:49,079 Paul George and the injury he had last year, well, yes, it 473 00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:52,559 took him out for the season. He didn't have to have surgery, nothing 474 00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:59,360 tour like. In that sense, they dodged a little bit of a bullet. 475 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,039 I'm not saying the basketball gods have completely been looking out for the Clippers 476 00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:07,280 by any stretch of the imagination. But when that happened that night against what 477 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,639 Lou dorton the OKC Thunder, I thought that was the end of this era 478 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,559 because it looks so bad At the time, the hyper extension was PG. 479 00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:17,800 Thirteen. In the last two months, he's looked like peak Paul George the 480 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,199 last month, I should say, in March, he's looked like peak Paul 481 00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,400 George again after dealing with his own left knee soreness, after dealing with a 482 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:31,320 groin injury. So prayers up to the basketball gods that Kawhi is just dealing 483 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:37,719 with a little bit of I'm not going to say the phrase that I said 484 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,320 earlier, chuck, just a little bit of soreness because he's played so much 485 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,199 for the first time in almost a damn decade. In eight years, right, 486 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,599 that's different on your body. We were all kind of wondering this season 487 00:38:54,679 --> 00:39:00,280 starting things off him playing power forward. What that would do? Is it 488 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,519 less taxing on your body, not having to guard as many guys around the 489 00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:09,000 perimeter and being more stationary, but being more physical in the post in the 490 00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:15,119 restricted area, having to rebound more, having a box out more. I 491 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:19,559 would have said before this that it looks like it was the right move. 492 00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:25,119 I was an idiot. So I did the Bleacher Report stream this morning and 493 00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:30,880 I literally the first note I did at nine am. So my first note 494 00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:32,880 is, you know Kawhi missed the game last night, dude to write anee 495 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,960 sortness. I think this is just because of the five and seven and he's 496 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,880 going to be back against the Nuggets because I liked the move. I praised 497 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,000 the move, and now I'm just like shit, no one watches their app 498 00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:50,639 anyway, So I guess that's fine. But it could very well just be 499 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:57,519 they're not valuing valuing this game against Denver to push things with Kawhi as much 500 00:39:57,559 --> 00:40:02,480 as some of us are. And there's some truth to that. They're they're 501 00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:07,159 basically three games up on the Dallas Mavericks in the four spot, not one 502 00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:10,639 game, not two games three because of the tie breaker, So maybe they 503 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:15,559 think they do have a little bit more of a cushion here to get Kawhi 504 00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:23,840 some much needed rest. And that's all it is. As the cat crossfade 505 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:31,400 happens, making sure you're there's probably some claws on that cat. There's there's 506 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:37,119 a connection with Kawhi, there is a de claude No then there, Yeah, 507 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,119 definitely not. It's a real ass cat race. Marlin with a great 508 00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:44,119 take. Maybe the Clippers are just so big brain they're putting horrible tape out 509 00:40:44,119 --> 00:40:50,440 just to shock the world in the playoffs. I like that idea, the 510 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:57,719 old special. Yeah, two months of bad tape that check themselves out of 511 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:05,599 having a with bad tape. Almost so half the season we've gotten a five 512 00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:07,880 hundred team. The other half we have gotten a god to your team. 513 00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:15,679 Who are they? What's their identity? Something that came up last night with 514 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:21,639 Will and I and I thought was interesting if I can recount exactly what he 515 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,000 said, but it was basically, you know, principles, identity, what 516 00:41:25,039 --> 00:41:30,800 do you fall back on when times are hard? And I was even asked 517 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,239 on Rogan and Rodney earlier today, what's their identity? I think that was 518 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,000 the first question because they brought up Paul George questioning that and James Harden and 519 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:43,760 I said to me, it's the same as last season. They've been consistently 520 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,159 inconsistent. Not an identity you want to have, but it's the truth. 521 00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:53,039 I think at their best, Yes, tough mind, defensive team, explosive 522 00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:57,519 offense. We saw it, not for a week, not for two weeks, 523 00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:00,159 not for a month, for two and a half month, yes, 524 00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:07,639 really thirty one games, Okay, maybe a little over two months. It 525 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,519 was a significant portion of the season. That's not nothing. Yeah, And 526 00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:16,719 what I said on a recent podcast here was well, it seemed like they 527 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:23,199 found the switch to turn things off because things changed drastically so quickly after the 528 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:29,280 Grammy road trip. Can it be that simple to turn to get back on? 529 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,400 Yeah, this is a tough one. This is a tough one for 530 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,920 Colpers fans. I just you know, I'm sure we'll get more clarity tomorrow 531 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,880 on Kawhi and what's going on if he had an MRIs clarity, Yes, 532 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:53,679 more than we have now for sure, because I was leaning the same way 533 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:59,960 you were that this is just eh season maintenance. That's what Paul George call 534 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:02,599 is left knee injury. It's maintenance. It's what happens during an a two 535 00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:07,360 in game season. It could be that for Kawhi, it's just something he 536 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:13,360 hasn't experienced in a while because he hasn't played this many games since twenty sixteen, 537 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:22,440 twenty seventeen. It's not fair. It's I know what was us, 538 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:28,480 all those bad feelings, PTSD, Clippers, Gonna Clipper, I know all 539 00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:31,599 these things. They're cursed. I don't want to believe any of it. 540 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:38,400 I don't not a curse guy. No, we've had the curse on the 541 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:45,079 pod. It was what did the Red Sox do to break the curse? 542 00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:49,280 What did the Cubs do to break the curse. They didn't have a seance. 543 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,719 Well after the Cubs won the world kind of went to shit if you 544 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,400 kind of look at the timeline of after the Cubs won the World Series. 545 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,119 Okay, downhill, Do Cubs fans care about that? No? They got 546 00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:04,159 their ring? Yeah, very true. All right, I think this probably. 547 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,960 I don't know how much more we can really dig into this, so 548 00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:15,599 I think we just have to leave and have everyone walk away slowly. Everyone 549 00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:22,159 just walk away slowly. Thanks for hanging out people and hopping in. Yeah, 550 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,440 we appreciate everybody here on the live. Chuck and I were just texting 551 00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:27,480 randomly. I was coming back to the jam. I was like, I 552 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,360 can be home in five. You want to do a quick live here because 553 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,760 I think people I want to at least. I don't know if we've soothed 554 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:38,480 anyone or waged any fears. This bit was funny. People like this. 555 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:46,280 That probably makes people feel a little bit better off the screen. It's simple 556 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,000 enough. Wait now it's just you, so you look like a crazy person. 557 00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:52,119 All right, we should get out of here. Uh. We hope 558 00:44:52,159 --> 00:44:58,639 everyone has a good rest of your night. Here's to good or just not 559 00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:04,840 bad. More news tomorrow. Knock on wood. If you're going to the 560 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,840 game, say what's up? If you see us, We'll be there. 561 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,239 Will, We'll be there. I'll be Section one eleven comes say Hi. 562 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,760 They had me in the nicer seats last game. Well, I think it's 563 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,079 because the Clippers aren't playing very well, so they had some extra media. 564 00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:24,760 I refuse to believe that. Usually they have Will and I freezing in the 565 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,320 press box, which we do love. I expect to see you court side, 566 00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:32,360 right next to the guys on the TNT broadcast. I don't know who 567 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,079 it's going to be. Is this a TNT only game. I haven't even 568 00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:40,639 checked on that. Me and Goldstein. You might be next to uh, 569 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,719 Jim Jackson if he's doing the tn T game. It is the tn T 570 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,800 game. Oh, that means there's going to be a Chris Hay's update, 571 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:59,119 Chrissy Tigan Grim's face. Well, I hope it's a good update. It's 572 00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:04,639 a positive update, all right. Yeah, the Steaks have been raised in 573 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,039 more ways than just winning a game against the Denver Nuggets. Snell, the 574 00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:12,280 concern is about Kawhi Leonard, as it should be. This is everything, 575 00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:15,199 this is everything. We hope everyone has somehow in productive day tomorrow while we 576 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,639 wait for this news. Sleep well, Sleep well, everybody, that's the 577 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:27,039 Do you have any sleep? Yeah, your melatonin, your promethzine, whatever 578 00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:30,199 you use to fall asleep. We're doing a live stream after the game. 579 00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:34,440 We were already planning on doing that anyway, so that worked out. Okay, 580 00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:37,360 we're gonna be doing a live stream post game. We're all three gonna 581 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,480 be on it. It's gonna be from the press box. Adam is gonna 582 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:45,639 be at his spot in one eleven, and the vibes will be whatever the 583 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:50,480 Clippers dictate the vibes to be. Maybe we could just take a picture or 584 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,079 I don't know. We're all kind of holding each other embracing for the report. 585 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,119 We look desponded in the last one we took in the press room, 586 00:46:57,199 --> 00:47:02,039 so maybe we'll take another one of those. I love that picture. All 587 00:47:02,119 --> 00:47:07,079 right. We await the Chris Hanes update tomorrow. We hope everyone has a 588 00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:08,280 good rest your day, and as always, let's go click