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me back? Absolutely? God damn. That clip went around a little bit,
and boy felt dumber and dumber every time I watched it. It was
very good. I didn't know what's happening. Like it's like like Mike's restraint.
I like Michael wasn't attention either, but like it's not his job to
pay attention at that point. I've heard that it tro like three hundred times.
I don't listen to it. Yeah, like you know, like when
to say your name, which is the whole thing, Like you just say
your name when you say your name. So, yeah, today's episode quake
too, red Dead. It's fifty dollars and Sony isn't happy, Square Nix
isn't happy. Nobody is happy except for us. You're on this show.
Yeah, Well I'm tired, but a lot of content today. Yeah,
it's kind of man. I packed Thursday, and I want to like,
I want to do Mortal Kombat tomorrow. I also want to do some quick
looks. We're gonna we talked about that. And then also, like,
you know, I have the normal shows as well, so you pe game
next morning, EXA, I'm like, and I'll play Palter's Gate, Like
what the who the fuck am I kidding? This is it's insane at this
point, but I don't know, no good things to complain about. Too
much work, It's fun. I enjoy. It's like, how are you
doing otherwise? Yeah, it's like, well, we're gonna record our first
Columbo episode after this. The Columbro's right, Yeah, Columbros is happening.
It's right. But it's like, yeah, no, I'm good. I
was feeling off for a while. Today I feel better, so hopefully that
kind of keeps going on the up end ups. So yeah, I've been
in better spirits today than for most of the week. So yeah, I'm
doing good. Any other, video games continue to be a lot of fun,
and somehow they keep releasing new ones that I want to play. They
refuse to stop despite my please. Uh yeah, it's like a new video
game every day I learned about that I want to play. So yeah,
and then that's a lot of those stuff to just go on a list because
Baulder's Gate three just has to be next. It has to be next,
it has to be the thing I play. It's like it's it's a giant
deal. It's incredible. But you know, Tears the Kingdom's Tears of the
Kingdom, but like the story for twenty twenty three really could be anchored around
Boulder's Gate three, even over Starfield or Tear's the Kingdom. And that is
shocking. I mean, what's its Metacritic average now, ninety seven? We're
going to talk about that in the news. Yeah, absolutely sane, it's
sane. It's games don't do that, and this game is and yep,
that is right. It is so surprising. It's surprising to a cert extent.
Like I always in my back of my head, I'm like, that
game could be really important, even wildest dreams like this huge, this important,
this successful, this well reviewed. It is hitting on every single cylinder,
So yeah, I have to play it. There was just kind of
a thought experiment while I was streaming, like what games do we think will
be nominated for a Game of the Year at you know, the Game Awards,
and there's some stuff that I assumed would make it to the beginning the
year, and I'm like, there's no room for it. Now. I
rush doesn't stand a chance, half I rush no chance, it's no chance.
I don't think Fantasy sixteen has a chance. Any Fantasy sixteen might get
in. But it's slam. It's a chance. It's a real tough chance.
Yap before nah. Right, you got to think, like some of
those votes for final Fantasy sixteen are definitely gonna get swelled up by boulders Gate
three on PS five, like winning over a lot of those people. I'm
not like one who was like, I can't believe Fantasy sixteen is not an
RPG, but I didn't playing boulders Gate with is the most RPG. It's
kind of like, yeah, this is nice. Maybe a little bit more
of this would have been nice a Battle Fantasy. I get it. I
get the complaint. Yeah, it's I mean, we've talked about it,
but it is like the lessons learned of like pulling so far away in the
other direction of being like people are afraid of that stuff. We can't we
can't even like have a hint of it, or we have to like hide
and bury it under all these other things. It's like, no, if
you make that ship front and center, and to tell people there are also
dicks and vaginas in your game, like you're gonna be set. You are
good. I mean squaring knicks. You know, they straight up came out
said, and you know, the producer straight up set like, I want
to make it more mainstream, so I had to like get rid of the
RPG stuff. And I can't help but wonder as much as I love yoship,
that isn't fundamentally incorrect. Perhaps Yeah, I mean both can be right.
Well, it can be true. It can be true. It's just
like it's hard to reconcile that, like based looking at Balder's Gate three and
but like both are true, but the fervor for Balder's Gate three makes me
think maybe one is a little bit more true than the other. It's a
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Quake to Remaster has been confirmed. They it's releasing August tenth. Some of
this stuff is going to be reportedly because of listen. Yes, it is
out now. It costs ten dollars ten euros eight pounds. Quake two remastered
is what it's called, not Quake to enhance. The first one was enhanced.
It's called Quake. I mean it's just called Quake two. Really just
just go on. They just that's the okay. I think they did refer
to it as Quake two Remastered at the event, but I think, yes,
just Quake two. It's coming. It's PC, PlayStation five, PlayStation
four, Xbox one, Xbox Series X and S, Nintendo Switch. Obviously
different than Quake two RTX uh it was. It was announced at Quake Con.
It also includes a Quake two sixty four for free and a new expansion
called called The Machine. I'm assuming that is done by Machine Games once again.
Yes, it's just like what they did with Quake one. Jap this
rules. This is so well, it's very awesome. So you paid it?
What would you think? It's awesome? It's super fun. It's like
Quake two is just such a it's a big it's a big turning point in
a lot of ways for shooters. It's kind of in that direct lineage or
half Lay like really changed things. But Quake two did a lot of that
also. I mean the source engine that half Lights built off of is based
on the Quake two engine. The Quake two engine is basically the first modern
shooter engine. And I don't know something about this it is still just such
a vibe and the remastered stuff, like you know, all the normal stuff,
like it looking spiffier, it's just running well and all that stuff's nice.
They had this new Compass mode where it's kind of like you know those
video games where you push a button, it's like, oh, there's like
the read crumb trail to help show you where to go. They kind of
build a system of like that in here that looks so good. It's like
it was, it's always been there, and that's nice because these games can't
get kind of easy to get turned around in. Right. Yeah, so
that's great. I've you know, I like everything Nike Dive done has done.
I'm pretty sure this is still Nipdive once again. Really excited to play
through this original campaign. I mean this was such a big deal in my
early PC gaming life. Excuse me, I mean this was this is why
you weren't playing Gold and I. Right, well, this is why I
was a brat about Gold and I. It was because like, yeah,
like a I sunk you know quick too. I can play that with like
mouse and keyboard. I was using the arrow keys like a scrub back then,
because I was like, well, obviously that's what you use, right.
I had that it looked at millions has better. Yet That's why I
was a brat about those kind of things. For sure. Quake two sixty
four is the sixty it's just the sixty four release a Quake two. But
like Quake quick, it's oh, it's not you're just messing with me or
just what no, no, no, seriously, it's like Doom sixty four.
It's a okay game. That's what I was getting too. It's the
sixty four release of Quake two, but it's a completely different game, right,
It's a completely different game. It's like a different set of levels,
right, so different set of levels, right. Play it came Quake two
came to PlayStation but had many of the PC levels in It is so basically
the same as the PC game on PlayStation, but the N sixty four one
is like a holy separate thing, which is why it's cool it's included here.
Also, it's very cool renders like an N sixty four game, which
has a look. It's not a great look for everybody, but I love
it. Very nostalgic. Yeah, And I was like, man, that
is they just put so much love into these Quake two remaster and these Quake
remasters, and that's obviously that's night Dives mo. But this is very exciting
dollars, it's ten dollars. Yeah, it was just you know, I
even instead of just like asking prs like ten dollars, I even want to
play it now, let's just go, come on, why not? It's
awesome. Uh. You know, they've done a good job of going through
a lot of these, right, we basically have all of the dooms and
the quakes now and some of the other like even some more of the obscure
ones from this era like Power Slave have been done. Night Dives done the
two Turrock games. I hope they keep going. I hope they keep finding
more games from this era and they keep giving them this treatment, because man,
there's something about these that nothing else really quite scratches that. It's even
like the newer Boomers shooter games, like something about the originals. I don't
know if it's because I know the originals and there's something about that is contextually
impressive and interesting in that way, right, Yes, absolutely, And it's
Uh, the cool thing about Quake is it's you can go back to it,
You really can, and it is an anchor to that time in a
way that you know, a handful of games are but quack aspect. Actually,
it's literally impossible Mike that Machine Games has done two expansions and is not
going to work on something new Quake related. Right, that's the whole point
of this. It has to be right, I would certainly hope. So,
like, what else are we doing here? Obviously Machine Games a pretty
busy studio, yep, but god, what I love to see them do
a take on Quake. You know, we haven't gotten quick take if you
were a Quake take, if you would, you know Quake for so long,
the last like attempts at Quake have always been entirely multiplayer focused, And
like, that's fine. I like Quake three, but Quake three is not
like the end and all bo for me. I do care about Quake one
and two. I care about it as this complete package with a fun single
player campaign, and yeah, it should also have this awesome multiplayer mode.
Sure, but I definitely think looking at what the recent Doom games have done,
that is the model you want to follow. Mike. My question for
Jeff is, do you want the Quake one kind of medieval gothic slightly you
know, a little almost horror, a little bit of horror, a little
bit at Eldric kind of aesthetic. Or do you want the more just pure
sci fi Quake two, Quake onward. I mean, I think the right
answer should be a quake one, because like, if we want the sci
fi like sort of thing, there's Doom. But but I Quake, Like
I can do that stuff even better in a lot of ways, and Doom.
Doom has all that demon stuff and I got I love those Doom games
that the demon hell aesthetic. That's one of my lesser favorite aesthetics. Like,
uh, what was that that fun first person shooter with like the music
stuff in it that came out at House Singer? Yeah, yes, yeah,
I like the game a lot, but it's like a demon's hell.
Well okay, like I'm you know, just a pause you a little bit.
Doom should be doing that, and don't agree. Twenty sixteen is reveling
in that st and nails it. But that's not the Christmas But this is
you could do more pure sci fi. You can do even more space marine
sci fi in a way that even Halo does it. You can he throw
in some of that medieval stuff and kind of spice up a bit there,
and you also still have hex and over there too if you exactly want to
go and that. I think that's what you do. You kind of maybe
bridge the gap and not not fully like you're right, you know, it's
not fifty fifty gothic and sci fi, but you go sci fi, you
go off world and you discover like, oh, that gothic stuff came from
space, and it's like that's fun. That's like spaces yeah, I mean
most dangerous goths of all Right, Yeah, you're in you're in space and
it's a space ship. But then you look out the window and it's like
this space ship is also a cathedral and they're playing organ music like that ship
rules. Yeah. I hope it's like the Doom games in that, like
you know, I don't have to reload basically, it's the best way to
put it. That's the thing. I love playing these games, Like Man
reload it was maybe of a steak. It's fun to just keep shooting.
Actually, god Man doing twenty sixteen so good. I never played that Doom
Eternal, Yeah, I never played that. I should play that. I
should play when the why am I talking about other Yeah, you're not gonna
can't make contact. It's not happening now, not happening. Wrong day,
some day when we are older, not right now. I really I've been
Doom twenty sixteen might be the game I came around the hardest on from Yeah,
Twisted Metal TV show moment. Would just laughed at it at first,
stupid, how did that embarrassing? This is since oh my god, you're
so wrong, it's so damn good. That was the worst I've ever been.
Yeah, yes, yeah, definitely. It's like that's the one that
taught me, Uh, do not judge violence in games until you're playing the
game yourself. You need the context. You have to be in control to
know the context of the violence. And it's like, Okay, these glory
kills actually just rule instead of how I felt before. And it's like,
that's a little over the top, idiot. I do that every world combat
too, though, like rippy dishes are actually carded. Just gross. Yeah,
you play, I want to do that five more times? Uh huh
exactly. So that's the game that taught that lesson to me, and I
will always remember it. Red Dead Reduption Port on PlayStation and switch is coming.
It's fifty dollars. That's the thing everyone's hung up on, other than
the fact that it's just a port, which only emphasizes the fifty dollars price
tag being But hey, guess what Strassoni says, it's commercially accurate, So
fuck you, Mike, that's a fun phrase. It has a little beast
pulling out for a while. Commercially, yes, it is ertoire based on
what it's not based on, like like Metroid Primary Mastered, which is like
an actual Yeah, I guess you know. I do think there are decent
people who are maybe burned from their last remastered or slash port efforts with Grand
Theft Auto, I don't know. It's the most bizarre thing is still the
no PC version that I'm not sure. I have no idea what's going on
there, but sure, whatever you think you could charge a little bit too
much money for your ancient, barely worked on port. Fine, Yep.
It's a lot of people have responded very poorly to this announcement. It has
something like one hundred thousand down votes on YouTube compared to like thirty thousand likes,
So yeah, people aren't happy. But you know, I want to
say, like, will that affect the sales? I think that price seems
high enough to yes, affect the sales, But it's a price point,
and price points can change very easily. And in two months the thing is
going to be what thirty dollars, thirty five dollars. But I mean,
it's it's coming out, what is it August seventeenth, it's coming out in
a couple of days, one week from today, it'll be out, and
then by Black Friday you're gonna be able to get the fucking thing for fifteen
dollars. So it's like, why we're gonna get upset about though it's not
worth it. It's like we'll just wait then, I guess. So it's
like, well, yeah, but we still I still think we should maybe
be complaining a little bit and like shouting just a tad at these companies start
trying to like pull pull the rug over or pull the wool eyes a little
bit, and it's same, Yeah, I guess. But man, of
all the things I'm playing the rest of this year, as much as I
like Red Dead, Redemption one that's not exactly high on my lists, no
chance in hell. Yeah, absolutely, uh. Final Fantasy sixteen didn't meet
high end expectations. Square It's a share price dropped nearly fifteen percent on this
news after it's Q two twenty twenty twenty earnings report. Uh where, And
they also had you know, sixty five percent dropping profits. But the company
sided slow PS five adoption and Final Fantasy sixteen's launch sales as a reason for
the decline is Station five adoptions slow? No? Well, I mean maybe
at one point it's not just isn't it just somebody's gonna say apparently it is
as well, which is crazy. But their whole thing is like we predicted
twenty five million, twenty five million consoles sold for this is the next story
as well, twenty five million consoles sold for the year, and we're a
little bit behind that pace. And I'm like, well, you get no
ship, Like it's a huge number. How does this keep? How are
why are the expectations always so ridiculous? It's like it looks makes them look
good to exceed quote unquote expectations, right. This is this jam was on
Game This Mornings this morning, and we talked like that's the thing, like
these companies are almost always conservative in their predictions so that they can overcome them.
They can like, oh, we beat expectations, you know, we
we wrote for I wrote for games, but you still do Oh beats expectations
a big thing among investments, the love that's really of that they should exactly.
So if you set high expectations, you better meet them. At the
very very least. FAC sixteen is like sewing at the same pace as Final
Facy seven remake, which should have been a bigger deal and was. It
came out for a platform that definitely had more consoles sold at the point it
came out of. So I don't know what else they were expecting. Yeah,
it's really tough for me to imagine them thinking this thing was going to
sell five million copies across you know, thirty five forty million PlayStation fives in
the first couple of weeks. Yes, this is this is bananas, and
it's bad Square Knicks being the bad Square. Yeah, there's a part of
me it's like, maybe maybe they're sincere about it, Like, no,
it's expectations, it's fine, and maybe something's getting lost of translation. I
don't know, because it is Square Knicks has done it before. I get
it. It is so baffingly bafflingly, stupid. There you go, baffing,
you got you had to write the second time. You should have given
up away quick. I thought if I did, I thought I could do
it two times in a row and that would negate. Then I sluss up
again. Then I messed it up again. I get it. I know
what you mean. I know what you're going for. Yeah, I mean
yeah, baffing, lean, baffole, lean, stupidly, baffling, confusingly,
stupid, just stupid as shit. Mike, It's sure, sure,
and it's it's a rake they set up themselves to step on every time.
Every time. They don't have to have those high expectations. They can just
a lie say because they said they even said high end expectation. I mean,
I guess they need some excuse for why their profits are weighed down,
right. They don't even need to tell them that you had a range of
expectations to say in bad expectations, Yeah, like what, I don't know.
It's it's it's weird and stupid and bad. And I think do you
think their phone Star expectations are I think it's sell twelve million copies. You
know, it always goes back to square Nicks. It's just kind of a
it feels lost. They feel lost, even when they're putting out games that
are generally liked, like Final Fantasy sixteen, even with a money printing factory
like Final Fantasy fourteen, they just it just seems like they can't get all
of their ship together there. It always is kind of messy over there.
And this is another game. They feel like a company that was hoping and
expecting to be bought, like just right right like and it has had a
CEO leave because us that didn't happen. And now they're like, well,
we don't have a plan for the future. The plan was to get bought
and now that's not happening. So someone else can figure this out. And
you know, they're making deals with bike er Soft and they have some stuff
in the works, but they need to they need to recounterlate. They came
out this year. Jesus Christ. Really this Yeah, that was a scared
dude. That's crazy spokenhead. Whoa Oh God, that actually is deeply upsetting.
Oh I am unmoored from reality. Okay, uh yeah, then Sony
is still not satisfied with PS five sales in the UK. Sony's PS five
price cut hasn't led to the reaction they hoped for in the UK. This
is what's crazy, Okay. God, they raised the price and people bought
it lest they brought the price back to right, these ungrateful smurfs. They
brought the price way down to end. People are buying it like fucking crazy.
So the sales are up something like five hundred percent compared but before the
price what are you talking about? What is happening? Why are they all
like this? Hey, Mike, remember two weeks ago when you and I
were on this podcast talking about Boy, the PS five shari is selling like
hotcakes? Yeah, boy, how they forget Sorry I decided to get that
in there. No, it is, but it is. It just straight
up is and that would sell even better because it's a significant price drop.
And they're like, sales are weak in the UK, but Europe as a
whole is performing well. PS five hardware sales increased by thirty eight percent year
on year in the first quarter. Sony is working the amblement measures to achieve
their rip on. Jim Ryan, I'm sorry, definitely, I don't yeah,
right, Like you can't even get it to sell in the UK.
I don't know. But PS five sales jumped seventy five percent in the UK
following the sale, and that was like by one measure, but by another
measure, it was up like a huge amount from like the weeks preceding the
sale. PS five unit sales are up seventy three percent for the first thirty
one weeks of the year. So, I mean, they're worried about being
not hitting that twenty five million number, but that's and that's why they have
this sale. That's one of the big reasons they have the sale. They're
also probably going to get a boost when they do launch the new model of
the PS five that almost certainly is coming out. I know we haven't had
an announced, but to get a boost when Spider Man happens, it's Spider
Man two, yep. But it doesn't matter if the boost isn't as much
as the imaginary number that you thought the boost would be. I guess Chat
helped me out. Was ten million is how many inches the PS five sold
last quarter? Right, it was in that range. I think it was
close to ten million. Uh maybe maybe it was like eight million or something
like that, but it's definitely gonna do about that same amount amount throughout the
summer quarter, which is crazy, and then they could do as much as
like twelve million in the holiday quarter, if not more than that. So
it's like, right there, you're you're maybe at your numbers. I don't
know. I just so the PS five is selling just about as fast as
the PS four in terms of if you line it up, and really,
if you just look at the last few months since the supply constraints have been
fixed, it's way out selling the PS four. How can you not be
satisfied with that. I don't know. I have no idea. It's deeply
upsetting. Yeah, it's it's like, I'm just trying to understand these companies.
Sometimes it is infuriating. Sony says it's delayed some games. This is
a weird one. Sony delayed several unnamed first party titles beyond March twenty twenty
four. This may be the reason why the recent PlayStation showcase was disappointing,
some speculation from some people out there. Among the possible delayed titles, people
are again speculating could be Stellar Blade, the Last of US Factions, and
Twisted Metal, the reboot that was rumored to be in development, although who
knows how close that actually is. Team of soby Bluepoint Ben Studio, another
high end, high profile DEBS, are reportedly working on new games, but
we haven't heard about those. I don't know, Mike, do you have
any ideas like what might be delayed, what might not? I mean,
we know Fast is delayed, like they said yeah on ice Yeah right,
so yeah, like maybe never coming out delayed, yeah, but otherwise mean,
we don't know much really except for like rumor and speculating on what is
coming in a post Spider Man two world. You know, you assume the
next Ghost of Tsushima. You assume like hopefully an Astro game and the Last
of Us Part three, among other things. But I don't know, like
one of their dozen life surface games. I guess yep. And And it's
like, you know, it can feel like a little bit like Sony is
kind of barren right now. But they do have Spider Man two coming,
And they had a streak of PS five games before this, like before this
like small, Small, Little Dearth, this little Breaks Fantasy and then and
then right and then they haven't four spoken. Yeah, but it's like they're
also like the PS five is the system, the platform that is going to
benefit the most from things like Matt coming out and in FIFA and then like
a Spider Man two, not Spider Man two. I'm really it's about to
get an unexpected Bolterskate three boost, right right, Balderskate three. Uh,
there's like other big third party releases coming out this year that are are going
to push out PS five and that thing. It's it almost is kind of
not a big deal. It's as long as Spider Man two comes out and
then all those other things happen, the PS five's gonna be just fine.
But if you're just like looking at PS PlayStation first party games, is it
gonna be like what is going on? There are these live service games getting
the way of everything. It's probably not that simple, but maybe there's something
to that. I don't know. Also, games are just bigger than ever,
and even those big Sony studios can run into problems. Absolutely all right,
let's see here. Balters Gate three is the best reviewed game of the
year so far. Balters Gate three has a ninety seven on Metacritic. That's
based on fourteen critic reviews so far. Eighteen now at eighteen really okay,
and it's yeah, I think it's I think it's probably gonna be in that
ninety seven range. It's currently the second highest rate. It is currently in
the second half, but I think that's that's change. I think it is
the highest rated game. It will be released on PS five next month.
An Xbox version may come next year. This game really is winning over just
about everyone that's playing it. It seems like, yeah, Tears the Kingdom
is a ninety six, so this is slightly better than that. Right now,
A ninety seven is about as good as I think you can get these
days. I don't know when we've seen a ninety eight in recent memory.
Right when was the last ninety eight? Was it? I don't know.
I think when I think about ninety eight, I think about like old stuff
like Awkrida Time Tony Hawk game ninety eight. At some point. Yeah,
that's just absolutely uh bananas that this game is doing that well and it is
just reach You know, there's a certain point where something that can see niche,
it just comes out to this kind of quality in the word of mouth
these days can spread very easily. And the other factor people just starving for
this kind of game. All those BioWare freaks who have kind of been left
out in the cold for a long time as they are patiently waiting for just
you know, substantial updates on what's going on with Dragon Age, and forget
about Mass Effect. We know that they're working on it. They've had small
teasers for that. That's a very long ways away. Well, in the
meantime, here's a game where you can cast spells and fuck people. So
that's nice exactly, and I mean it is what people want. Uh,
this is you know, you look around for like what other genres can have
this sort of burst, this glow up, this instantaneous thrust into the spotlight
and it's you know, this is this was one that was primed. But
I don't know if there's many, Like you know, Point and click Adventures
aren't going to suddle it, like Miss isn't sellly gonna come back and like
do this stuff. But games where you can the common thread here because like,
let's look at the games that have had this similar effect recently. It
has been Tears the Kingdom and Elden Ring and am I missing anything that was
the last time Outer Rings like what I really think about? Yeah, and
like these are these are games where people can really you know explore on their
own terms, tell the story on their own terms, engage with the world
on their own terms. And that's that seems to be the key, and
that seems to be the thing that is this uh I mean you know again
key that unlocks this larger world of players out there that are waiting for something
that speaks to them. And you know, the people that want a story
told to them, they are, they are well fed, they are they
know where to go for that stuff. Sony's got you, a handful of
other developers got you, Square, Nick is trying to get you. But
like the people that can make those games are making those games, and people
know where to get them. The people that are like looking for this opportunity
to express themselves in a very deep way. So when they're yeah, elder
Ring did that, it's the first time from really tried that though, and
and Breath of Wild now Tears of the Kingdom, it's the first time Nintendo
really tried that. Is anyone else gonna be able to fall in their footsteps
and to have it come from a small little studio over in Europe, that's
like, I think that's got to be Like, this is a moment where
it's like anyone can make one of these games if they really believe it and
they recognize where they should be scoping up and where they should be scamming back.
So okay, we have a whole new world of possibility of what games
are going to look like going forward. And you know, it's it's not
like even this game is doing a ton of new stuff. It's just putting
it all together and it's it's working. It really is, uh And you
know, yeah, Larry, And obviously when we say small, like yeah,
we know they have a lot of employees, like like three hundred people,
but it's like, man, that's that's not a Ubisoft game. Let
me come on, let's yeah, there's right, you know what A thousand
people worked on a Zelda game, Like that's that's a big studio these days.
Yes, would it be fun if the next one was you know,
there's those rumors that Metrid Prime four is going to be like a quote unquote
bigger game, a more open game. I don't know what that means.
That almost scares me in some ways, like how do you do that?
I miss it up. But man, if if we're really setting ourselves up
now, because we already disappointed ourselves with like Metroid dread and Metroid Prime remasterselves.
But now I'm like, maybe Metroid Prime four is going to get that
old and ring breadth of the wilds Gate re glow up. What am I
doing to myself? I mean, but it's like, you're right. I
mean, honestly, there was a part of me I thought that could never
happen to Zelda. So the fact that's I mean, but you know,
Zelda's fantasy, and Fantasy always seems to have a little bit of better a
chance. Zelda is Zoda. But I didn't think it would happen to boorders
game, and we don't We still don't have like necessarily sales numbers yet,
although it's got to be millions, it's got to be millions, it has
to be millions. All dreaded on PC, yeah already, And like we
know that it's sold pretty well to early access. It didn't know most of
the sales have happened since it went one point. Oh so yeah, it's
it's it's really popping off of that game and then EVO happened. There's a
bunch of news here. There's like a bunch of words. People just throw
in here out of order, under Night in Birth two cysts celess. That's
just obviously a typo. It's all right, okay, time for us to
shine. That's right. FGC reporter Turboshan to run you through the announcements.
I was out there this week this past weekend, I saw the announcements happen
live. I got to play some of these games, unreleased games, which
was very fun. I haven't had much before. We'll get that. Calm
down, calm down, we got we gotta sit you ast. Okay.
So, like Jeff said, words soup here under Night in Birth to sist
so less, which, by the way, much better tild than the last
one under Night in Birth EXE late CLR, which was and there was more
to it than under Night in Birth. I didn't know. Yeah, crazy
right. If you ever heard hear people say UNI when referring to a fine
game, this is what they're talking about. But it's like the anime game.
Uh and it's announced release in early they're finally only allowing one anime game.
It's about time they put a limit on that. Oh I know what
this is now? This is yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the
people like this successor to Yeah, successor to Multi Blood, So if you've
heard that before, that's what this is following up. It's gonna have rollback
neck code right out the game, which iveryone was very excited for because these
games historically have bad neck code. So I'm sure Christian, you're very excited
about all this. You seem to be a big into these anime game.
Yes, I play you yell a lot back in the day. I think
you're how I found out the game existed. Yeah, and then the the
fucking copy happens and so we couldn't like play the game shoes like you can't
play online because they online what She's bad. That's why I need good roback.
So really excited I got. I got to play this on the show
floor, the Shadow dropped their demo, which was kind of interesting. No
one was expecting that. But yeah, and as far as I could tell,
it was under night, so it is what it is. I'm not
much of an anime fighter guy, so I can look like Marvel versus Capcom
three. Sorry, I'm going I'm going ahead. This is what having some
Jeff isn't in charge of the show. He just like his brain goes everywhere.
This is so there's Mikey news. Maybe the new Fatal Fury game is
officially named Fatal Fury City of the Wolf and the London part it con a
yeah yeah, which, by the way, Garo just means it's like French
for werewolf or something like that, so it's the wolves themes. Yeah.
They showed a brief teaser trailer during one of the S and K segments,
and if you listen to the voices, people are trying to suss out some
of the characters. But the big thing is that they showed off what the
game actually looks like, and it has an advancement of like the KOA fifteen
art style, but it has some nice soul shading and some special effects and
stuff. It looks very similar to Marl versus Capcom three, which Norwoods means
that Mike Manati thinks is ugly. Mike, do you have anything to say?
He's right, I'm right, yeah, this game looks significantly Street Fighter
six. I mean, I don't boom, like I got excited to go
look at it and I'm like, oh, that's that was my action.
Sorry. I mean, you know, it looks a bit better than King
of Fighters fifteen, which is Fighter looks like they shouldn't. Yeah, Killer
of fifteen is too simple and like Garris colored. Yeah, look the art
before they went full three D and losing those two D sprites is a fucking
crime because they were beautiful they look I feel like is one of the greatest
looking games of all time. If anybody should be team We're still just going
to do sprites. I feel like it should be SNK right now, but
unfortunately sprite artists are very hard to come by nowadays and just go find them
right, Yeah, detailed pixelated nipples all right. And then then the last
like the major like game Slash System announcements was a Killer Instinct is getting a
tenth anniversary update. Uh, this is is even though the actual update itself
isn't gonna be that big. It's kind of an unprecedented announcement to go back
to this like ten year old game that hasn't been worked on in five years
and add anything. So it's getting matchmaking improvements, which is following up the
fact that they basically fixed the matchmaking earlier in the year because it was going
to not work. With Microsoft transitioning a lot of server stuff on the back
end to new services, they future proofd it earlier in the year, and
now they're going to further improve the matchmaking. Iron Galaxy is coming back in
for all this, so they're they're doing all this. Why you and the
other fighting game perverts like this game so much because I've been hearing it so
much from like you, from Maximilian dude, uh, you know, from
all just a sort from me going on. Yeah, I talked about this
a couple of weeks ago. We talked about the best fighting games. But
it does come down to well, first of all, like the aesthetics of
it. The music does add a lot, Like everything is musical in this
game, you know, like it's got some good effects to some good particle
effects in it. I like that Xbox One particle effect. Yeah, that's
good stuff. It's like Doom twenty sixteen, you know how, like the
music like synks up with the action and everything like that. K I did
that first like three years early. But also it's because yeah it is now.
But you know it's also just the definitive dishes and game pass so you
can just go play all of it. But gameplay wise, it's because of
the combo breaker and counter breaker system. You're always playing the game. There's
always a push and poll there, like you're not just eating a combo like
your Moral versus capcom game. You can break out of it, you can
risk it, it might not pay off, and there's that mind game with
your opponent of am I get break am I not? It's very fun.
But the last two things in the announcement is that it's getting a native Xbox
Series version. It didn't have that before. Is this backwards campatible Xbox One
version, So it will presumably be you know, like four K Series X
and then fourteen forty on Series as we all know for sure, but we
assume that what's gonna be the big one is it's getting a balance update,
which is really weird for a game this old light to bring the old team
in and say, hey, yeah, you can make the fixes you think
need to be made after you know, these five years of pros playing exactly.
That's literally what they say announcements, change up the meta. It was
kind of funny Keats, the combat designer over Iron Galaxy, put on Twitter,
like earlier in the year. Yeah, sorry, guys, if we
had time machine, we would go back, we would nerve rash. But
there's nothing we can do. So when this announcement came out, he all
he tweeted was Rashkin was coming to him. Man, fuck that battle toad.
Fuck the toad. That's my main No. No, I am a
rash Maine, so I'm a little set. But those are like the major
game announcements. And then we had a bunch of character reveals. As mentioned,
Project L revealed Yasso, the samurai character from Legal Legends is in the
game. I think it. I got to play a DCMA Project L two.
They had a bunch of stations set up right did and I got to
play two v two with my homie against another pairing and they're like monetization scientists,
just like staring at you. Ready it's about so we know exactly,
we know exactly how it's going because when the when the Chroma menu came up,
it's just like, oh, you're gonna charge out the ass for costumes,
just like, yeah, let me tell you that money. Game is
very fun though. It's very snappy, and it plays a lot like Blaze
Blue Cross, Tag Battle and Marvel Infinite like sort of where those tag team
games were going like two v two very quick like switching in and out to
extend combos. Yeah, it feels very good. The two v two is
very interesting. There's a lot like especially if you're couch cooping, you can
sort of like you have to figure out how like you know, nudge your
buddy and say, hey, tech me in without like, you know,
tipping off the our team. It's it's kind of cute. We had a
lot of fun playing. I'm looking forward to playing more in the future.
Guilty Your Strive add a couple of things, a couple of new mechanics,
and all the shirtless cow blots of one and Johnny, the fan favorite character,
the shirtless Cowboy. He has no nipples. He doesn't have nipples as
for me, unlike Mario known for having his nipples. Yeah, that's what
they call it. Nonnati. Now Mike was talking about this one a little
bit. MK one revealed Reptile Astra and Havoc are coming back. So Reptile
Classic had been two from the PS two era. There. Havoc looks awesome.
He's sort of like a zombie type character. Like one of his attacks
is like he rips off his head like throws something at you and then like
puts his head back on, like really man. Yeah, it's it's it's
interesting. And then one of the older characters, Serena, is a cameo.
That's a Mortal Oh Serena Serena and Mortal komp by four character. I
don't remember Armageddon. I think it was the last time she popped up.
Yeah, best known for Mortal Kombat mythology sub Zero Mike, that's that's a
crowning accomplishment. That's looks great. By the way, Jeff, the people
on your game mess poll, that's I think that was. Those are people
who just don't know who are like, oh, we like reptile. It
looks like tasteless fass heathens. I bet Sean will back me up. And
within the fighting game community, I think everybody's very excited to see Reptile be
more humanish again. Yeah, people do tend to prefer human reptile, which
has always been interesting to me considering he is, you know, he's always
been like some degree as shape shifter. But yeah, people people do like
Wayne's kind of just a ninja rather than like the m K nine version where
he's like lizard Man. Yeah, I don't like that lizard Man. Last
couple here, Tech and eight revealed that Raven is coming back, so a
Ninja type character of that fans like a lot. And then my favorite,
the newcomer, Azusena was revealed. Ye see, I was thinking about I
was thinking about this. I'm like, man, Mike wouldn't be bitching if
she was the coke zero queen. It's just because she's the coffee queen.
He's like that face on. Mike went from how dare you too? Well,
He's right, I mean sounds better to be. He's just staring are
He's like, how dare this like hyperactive girl be peddling this sludge to me?
Exactly? I was watching Max's video. We pointed out a little bit
of Laura from Street Fire five in this character, which I'm like, yeah,
probably explains why I like her, but a little bit. But I
mean, how dare you staying where she stuh? So that Yeah, those
are some fun announcements. There's some other like technical stuff that they announced for
tecking up. Oh no, was a weirdo and came on and sort of
like no joked about street Fire Cross or taking cross Street. That was a
weird moment. Yeah, that was like, what's even last year was the
taking guy came out and said like, no, we definitely should tradup killed
that project. That project doesn't anymore. There's been back and forth there.
Who the hell knows there, It's just a joke now, oh no,
it's no longer in CapCo. So yeah, so I was I was thinking
that, like me and my bike was saying to each other in the audience,
like, does kevcom know that he made this joke? Do they know
he's on the stage right now. It was a weird moment, but yeah,
the returning character in Raven, new character now as the saying looked very
cool. Tech and eight continues look good. I did play a little Tech
and eight. It feels like tech and seven shocker tech and feels like tech
in which is kind of what techn b do. It's sort of it's thing
I forgot. I forgot to mention MK one. I'm very upset with WB
Slash another REALM Slash whoever put this shagau. They had what is like basically,
you know, like an E three booth type thing, but with eight
setups, and it's like, did you really think that Mortal Kombat would only
need sixteen people at a time for when you have like twenty thousand people potentially
coming in and out this over the weekend like appointments. When we played it,
Howl get me in. I was gonna say, yeah, like you
you lucky fucker's probably just liked got to experience the same demo, and I
was like, boon, just had hi. Jeff, Right, how much
do you waited to play in Sean? That's the thing it was. I
waited fifteen minutes. I moved like. It took fifteen minutes to get a
single group through there. So I was like, oh, yeah, we're
not standing here in line. So I was a little a little upset experience.
We'll be playing that game in about a month, right, So yeah,
exactly, so, which is why I was just like, plus,
just bounce, let's do something else. Well, yeah, it's coming out
soon. I was, there's no need to yeah, but yeah. Last
one was three fist six. The news everyone's talking about, of course,
is the TMNT crossover that they're doing in the Battle Hub and everything. It
was a very cool moment in person to watch when we all started singing the
teenage Moman Ninja Turtles song a whole arena of people. That was super cool.
And then we saw the trailer and it's like, oh yeah, costumes
and stuff. Cool, Oh it's for it's for the avatars. Okay,
little weird. And then as we know now fifteen dollars each really right?
Reallys were like a skin to make Reu look like Leonardo. That's one thing,
a little more, yeah, but also that's more than a character.
That's more than a playable characters cheap yep. The TMNT as a team,
we're ten dollars an Injustice too. That's like the funny thing. Yeah,
I mean, yes they are. They we gave them an inch once they're
taking a mile now, like that is just what has happened here, and
or may just Capcom having less poll They were like, yeah, I guess
we'll take what we can get, right, I mean, toothpaced out of
the tube and a lot of the stuff though, they're they're just gonna they
see other people getting away with twenty dollars skins, they're gonna try to go
as high as they can. That's yeah, that's what you're seeing. And
it's just it's where the industry's as. So it's like even if full price
game seems like, you know, we're good behind in this direction. Yeah,
and it is what it is. Last thing was that we got the
first look at hockey the next UH charter that's gonna be released for dlc UH
taking over jury in the hearts and minds of those types of fans. And
somebody in her trailer, yeah, she basically murders you the player character.
Hell yeah, yeah, so what's kind of bad. I think it was
a bad trailer. I don't understand. It was an awkward trailer. I
don't want to see her poison somebody. Yeah, I don't want to see
your world to her stuff. It was what is she from? She knew
or knew she is. She gonna be related to Fang with all that poison
stuff. Yes, yeah, I really wish she wouldn't be, but like,
yeah, her name is an acronym and she's absolutely related. She sang
everybody's favorite Final Fantasy five villain. All right, very exciting, very cool.
You can't have a street fighter at three or Final Fight character in here.
We gotta have this fucked up weirdo. Great, but at least we're
getting fan favorite ed after that, though, at least we're in a comb
at the end of the season. Let's just say I'm looking forward to season
two. Yeah, conal Wood says the I can fix her crowd, say
Jam, that's what say Jam said, and she has a view I had
seen in the crowd some of y'all. Some of y'all are like, I
can fix her. No, you can't. You can do better. So
fun announcement, say evo. I had a great time playing, even though
I got bodied, it was a great experience and I'm happy I could bring
the news back to y'all. All right, well, thank you very much,
Sean. Thank you, Sean. Let me just finish this email because
I was totally paying attention. Incredible, we can hear you. By the
way, we knew. I knew I wasn't gonna saying all right, so
let's just touch all. Just recognize for a second that man's doing work,
Mike. I got some super chats here from my friends that I want you
to read. All right, here we go from Daracci working late. So
thanks for the podcast, Love you boys, You're welcome. Hey, shout
out Daracci. Baba is me, says feeling up orders Kate three read BG
three is like Battle Rounds three. I have an older laptop of twenty seventy
low power card and st is PC that much better that it's worth a building
one. Thank you boys. I mean everything is definitely perspective to if you
can afford it. I think if you could afford it, yes, you
should build a good gaming PC. Yeah. Gaming laptops have gotten a lot
better over the years. They still suck in a lot of ways. It's
like they do build one. If you've got a PS five and it's just
for Bob boulders Gate three, you could probably safely just wait for the PlayStation
five version. Oh, Greg says, man, this Mike guy is a
good guest house. You should bring him in full time. To the Jeff
Grub game mess starring Jeff Grubb, Jeff, I consider it. Don't don't
put a big hat on his shoulders. Doctor Ryan says, what's your hottest
quake take? I think, well, people were I think getting a little
upset with us about like the like in the sci fi stuff over the gothic
stuff. I think, So that's pretty hot? Is it hot? Is
it? Some? Some like it hot? Jeff? But all right then
fair enough big Jimbo. Ryan says, have you seen Guptill eighty nine video
on Honess Sonic characters it's outdated because the id W comics adding whisper at Imo,
but he makes some good points. Jimbo, tell me who number four
is on the list, please, Yeah, Jim give us give us some
ideas there about what else is happening on that list. I haven't watched that
yet, but I'll add to the watch later. Right now, au Peka
Blue says, Hello, Mitch tune Freak, McNaughty and Jeff Goonfrey Grub Have
you played the seminal PlayStation classic Parasite Eve the story ghost places? No,
but I want to, especially ever since I played through Resident Evil one on
PlayStation one not too ongo, I was like, I should play other games
like this now finally in Parasite Eve is definitely high on that list for me.
Yeah, Parasite Eve was always one that, like from a nintend of
sixty four fan boys perspective perspective, was like, well, that looks like
the next big thing after Final Fantasy seven. That must be a huge deal.
And then that's so I assumed, ever and played it, and apparently
apparently not many people that played that game. It's weird. It gets weird.
I don't know if it holds up still, like because they I mean,
I'm sure good ship. Yeah, yeah, you get it gets weird
and they combat it's weird, so you gotta or the combat school. It's
basically the isn't at the combat that we later get in a Vagrant story,
right, Yes, flitch out us in that game. It's a little bit
more clunky and it looks weird in the fields. Weird, So you're a
little clunky, Robert Muno says, sending a thank you. I went through
some intensive dental work listen to games each time to keep my mind off the
awful things happening in my mouth makes to keep me calm and entertain. Remnant
too is dope. No, Christian, you're not allowed to chime back in
because he mentioned Remnant too. Thank you, Robert really appreciate it. Yeah,
yeah, good luck, Robert. I hope that I hope that we
can keep your mind off of things, and I hope you get better real
fast. Yeah, good luck with your mouth. Absolutely should care on me.
Moto says, God, I made so much money from the Mario movie
with my cool friend Chris Pratt and all the suckers that bought Zoda. Spend
this money in the Nintendo commissary, Oh man, you can get it.
You can get a game Boy Micro, Gameboy Advanced Micro that has the cartridge
wielded shot and only has what what game would be in there? Looking?
Would they put in there? In the prison and the micro? Okay,
what's zoop Lee? Would feels like the game you get in prison? Holy
shit, Dono Wood, says Mike any thirty x X impressions. Yes,
I was playing a bit of it before earlier today, really liking it.
I think it's a ton of fun. If the idea of Mega man X
but Roguelike sounds good to you, you should be at least looking at it
a sap. I think you'll like it. I think we're going to try
to put together a quick look Jeff yep. Yeah, Mike was talking to
me about that, and I think it's a good idea. So we'll look
at that. Sit up. We will play it soon then. I also
want to show it off single player though, so that people can see how
good I am though, of course, yeah, because I'm very good at
it. Do you have a go our pieces? Mike? After your amazing
pock impersonation, could you give us an La night year all Yarrol girl min
always comes out a little bit singing, and he doesn't. It's not singing
when he does it. He goes through yarrow. In my mind, it's
definitely two syllables. I don't know if that's correct or not. Girl,
It's like it sounds it's like an orbit, like he's orbiting around the word
y'all. I love that. That's one of my favorite like starts of an
entrance song that like robot voice La Night. I like, yeah, you're
dying Et when I did it. But you know that's pretty cool too though.
My god, all the kids love it when when Et was dying but
he fucking just grow. People like just cheered. That's the name of the
script for the Unmade fucking Die, just fucking dies. La Knight is a
pretty fun they People are like, he's just copying the ro Kevin Nash capping
the rockets, the Steve Aust Like, if you can copy those guys,
you run it like, I love if you can pull it off. I
love Kevin Nash ninety nine percent. At the time, that was all take.
I didn't yes Kevin Nash exactly. I've been the exact same way.
Kevin Nash, very cool guy. Try Wolf says Jeff making everyone start talking
about how they hate Hollow Night now has destroyed Discord. This but I agree
with Mike. Yeah, there's a big fight on Discord. Everybody you speak
friends and now they're not, and it's your fault. I never I never
encourage this. I'll I don't know how the fuck up. I don't know
how to harp on I don't want to harp on this. I just don't
get it. I don't I'm not asking for you same thing. I'm not
asking for you to samething. I just can't believe that anybody who likes the
Castle Viga betrick Via games just doesn't like Hollow Night. It's the same thing.
It's just the same thing, but like like better in some ways,
or at least just different as some But it's a stitch aways that you could
go from. These are my favorite games too. I don't even like this.
It's not possible, ever said I don't like it. Maybe I didn't.
Maybe I'm projecting on the dan now, but yeah, Epinata Eater says,
thanks for all the great podcasts and streams. I'm planning to build my
first PC at the end of a month. Any tips slash things you wish
you would have known. I'll let you tackle that one, Jeff uh.
I mean, listen, it's it's no secret. By the best video card
you can afford, Like that is where your your budget should go, the
best video card you could afford, and then everything else. Make it makes
sense from there, idiot. It turns out that you have to kind of
build around that though, like your certain motherboards and certain power supplies are added
for specific CPUs exactly. Yes, you work backwards from there. Make sure
make sure that you have a decent amount of overhead on your PSU, your
power supply, because you know you might upgrade one day and then your ship
might be crashing. You're like, why is this crashing enough case that you
can upgrade too, because that shit keeps getting bigger yep. And then I
just don't get too fancy. Get the stuff that people recommend. Go to
PC part picker. If it all lines up. Usually the things that have
the most ratings and the highest rating are the right choice. But you know,
you can look out for sales right now for SSDs and then maybe don't
go with DDR five RAM even quite yet, Like you're fine with DDR four
ram for now. So that's that. There you go, and a the
new generation of SSDs and stuff that are like, oh, this is going
to be the really fastest. You don't need that either, so save your
money on those things. Lots of LEDs though, those are important. Yes,
Steph Tendo says, can you do a draft for a worse of games?
Between you two, I feel like we have so much more to learn
about the worst video games? Jeff, our journeys one's really begun. Yeah,
that's the lifelong curse that we are. We're in, so you realize
we keep this up, like within five years, we will be authorities on
like the worst video games. It's exciting stuff. Huh yeah, we're and
it's gonna happen because again, it's a lifelong curse. It sure is.
That's different SUPERCHESSI now, thank you so much, everybody, Thank you everybody.
We're gonna take a quick break, a quick break when we get back
where you're going to decide the best games of And it's just nineteen ninety eight.
Yeah, yeah, probably, yeah, probably won't be won't take too
long. We'll be right back after this and we're back, unfortunately doing a
podcast. Still best game in nineteen ninety eight. Best five games in nineteen
ninety eight, It should be easy save it down to ninth, not just
five games from that year, Mike, nineteen ninety eight. It's pretty pretty
action, pretty busy year, a lot of good games. I've been thinking
about. This one's gonna be tough because I didn't get back around to actually
playing Acery at the time, So I'm gonna be going on my like old
memory of that. I'm not sure where I even plays it anymore. But
I don't know where do we start with this year? Okay, I mean
there's, let me say, like the two big console ones here. There's
one of PlayStation one until sixty four, Metal Gear Solid and Akering Enough Time.
Those are kind of the two of the first games I think of when
I think about nineteen ninety eight. And part of why nineteen ninety eight was
so ridiculous was that we got these two big games that were very clearly amazing,
very clearly representing the future of gaming, like immediately, and it came
out like the same month. I remember, both of them were in the
same issue of EGM being reviewed that month, right, remember reading It's like,
man, these both these games are apparently the best games ever. That's
incredible. Yes, it was. It's like almost shocking sometimes, like,
oh yeah, those were happening at the exact same time, and they define
gaming for me in a lot of ways, so especially on the console side
of thing. I mean, honestly, like and then Half Life Happy on
PC. So you said Metal Gear and Macherina time, right, yeah,
and then Halflight falso did you were you doing a Google doc by the way,
I am. I have it ready to go. I'll bring it up
here in a second. I just want to kind of get us the conversation.
Sorry, no, it's okay, there it is. But yeah,
I mean that's the other other one, like in the meanwhile on PC of
Half Life, which is another incredibly important obviously the future of video game.
So those three seemed like very easy wants to shout out, and I do
feel like almost everything else is maybe one tier below that, but maybe not
even though, because there's a lot of other really big important games. I
mean, here's the thing. I think we could very easily say the next
two games and then that's the list, So hey, why don't why don't
can we do some longer shots first? You know, what's funny. I
just noticed now a Boater's gate. Yes, that's incredible. Here's here's my
longer shot, my Banjo Kazooi three D platform where I like quite a lot.
Yeah, plenty of years would this would be a top five. I
think absolutely many of ninety six and ninety seven and easily would have been the
top five. Definitely the best three D platform from this era. That's not
just Mario sixty four, yes, five Bye a mile by a mind Crash
Bandicoot, but I know how you feel about Crass very also this year,
by the way, I think good luck to you Crash three. Sorry warped
No, But I mean Pantra Kazooi better than all other three D platformers except
for Mario by a mile, and it's very very good. Uh. And
yet that thing you said about being a tier below those other games, I
think you're probably still right about that. So I'm put it up there for
now. But here's the I know that you have. There's one that you
have a torch for. Yeah, should we mean? We got to because
I think it's unlikely that this list happens without that game being up there.
I have a giant torch for grim Thing Dango for a lot of time,
I would call it my favorite game ever. Right, Maga three kind of
stuck up there now pomp Basy fourteen, but it's still always going to be
very very high there For me. I think it's you know, Lucas Arts
was just releasing all these incredible adventure games, and it really just peaked with
Grimfan Dango from Ti Schaffer, with this incredible setting, this Day of the
Dead style. These is incredibly sharp writing, and yeah, like all those
games funny, but was also able to really capture the kind of pulp sublanca
style vibe that it was going for and not doing it in an ironic way,
like actually being able to capture that really well, there's still something very
magical about Grymfandango. Even though it's a game where I know the solutions,
I know everyone's gonna say I've played through it like over ten times by now.
It's ridiculous how just quality that game is. This shouldn't be a long
shot. Let me just say it. I'm not going to get the way
of race treatment here. I should though ten eight Snowboarding Boy any other year.
I'm not even gonna like pretend it's not gonna be on there. I
would be I would just put it on there because I'm gonna control the list
and that would be it. Uh, nineteen ninety eight is different, so
it is on the long shot list for now. Yeah, it's uh to
me there. Every other snowboarding game got so much wrong compared to what ten
eighties snow Yeah, ten eighties so almost a tight uh ten eighty snowboarding understands
that it's it is about it's about the carving, but it's it's also about
like the difficulty once you're in the air and actually actually making tricks a feel
like a feat and that is a game that is so easy to get into.
Moving through that world is a joy. The interaction between the snowboard and
the snow is accurate to how like it's poetically accurate, Like it feels the
way you imagine it feels when you when when you remember snowboarding, then you
try to do a ten eighty, and it's something that you have to practice
and practice and practice because it is like a fight, fighting game input and
it all needs to happen in this small window when you're in the air,
and the joy of actually pulling that off something I've only done a couple of
times in my life, and I always imagine I'm gonna go back and practice
and get be able to do that again. It is so ecstatic. You
feel so amazing because you're like, I learned how to do this thing and
pulled it off, and it looks so cool. Yeah, ten eighties snowboarding
is of special, special game. It's just nineteen ninety eight is so jam
packed rough. I mean, how about this, Jeff, You know,
because we do US releases, Pokemon Red and Blue came out in the US
and nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, it's just the biggest deal ever. Like,
I was so primed and right to just get fully absorbed by that,
and I got absorbed by I mean the whole Pokemon thing. But I played
so much of my copy of Pokemon Red. I basically memorized the strategy.
Guy. Like you could tell me you can say a Pokemon's name, I
would tell you, like there's I would tell you like what level they learned,
their best moves, stuff like that. I just would just read that
thing religiously. I was just so incredibly into it. And obviously Pokemon we're
still talking about. Guess what Our last podcast was all about last and time.
Still just I'm talking about Pokemon after all these years? Yep, Mark,
Mike, are we gonna put Resival two on this list? It's it's
very good. I wish I have. You know, my experience of the
original Resieval is too isn't amazing. It's recently I went back and played resi
Eval one, the original and loved it too. It's just supposed to be
a better version. It is just another wow. I can't believe how ridiculously
good this year is. Maybe an importance factors not quite there, because it
is just a refined, maybe better version of Reside Evil one for a long
time, probably considered the best in that series until you had Resident Evil four
come out. I think another very good game. I don't know again,
nineteen ninety eight is just so ridiculous. It's it's hard to say, kind
of similar in that vein and in that tiers of zero X. Yeah,
it isn't that tier as well. It's like it is such a you know,
it's the fastest game on in sixty four, like in terms of like
that's sixty frames per second was actually relatively rare on in sixty four and so
you got a game that prioritized that, and then and then it's like it
knew, well, if we're gonna have that, we need to make sure
we could pair it up with that sense of speed. And it's exhilarating when
you have all the when you're passing all those other vehicles on those very simple
tracks, but it didn't really matter because you're going so fast that the polygons
just moving past your face at that speed added this sense of like your your
imagination fills in those gaps. And so I like the way it looks.
I like the way it played. I really like UP zero X a lot,
but again a year, but a few fighting games that came out,
like, uh, The Street Fighter Alpha three, I believe X versus Straight
Fighter, King of Fighters ninety eight. I think the big one here is
actually going to to be Tecond three. I think it's actually that came out,
Yeah, Tecon three on the fantastic. It's fantastic. It's very very
game. Even I know I'm not a big teching guy. It's so obviously
the best one of those you could play on a PlayStation, but maybe even
anywhere I know it was, you know, I hold a torch for Virtual
Fighter for a while. As we know, which when I want to go
play, maybe it's Tecond three. Actually, yeah, and Tecon three was
the time when PlayStation was hitting the mainstream and a really hard way. It
was like the pop culture like object of power, and so people from all
walks of life were getting into video games, and tech In three was just
waiting for him, like, here's your fighting game. And it's like my
older brothers were playing tech In and they had never played fighting games. It
just was everywhere, and that appeal was obvious in the game, and then
it just was this really refined take on an already good fighting game series.
This is probably the peak for tech In, at least an early peak for
tech In. You know, Tag Tournament was in a lot of ways,
but for me, tech and three was the highland. I am so happy
that Richards are Type four. Although it came out in December nineteen ninety in
Japan, didn't come out in the US until nineteen ninety nine. That's a
couple big there's a big one here. There is a big one. I
I wonder, I wonder how you like if let's set right now played?
Okay? Sweak it into oh interesting? Okay, that actually also gets saved
because nineteen ninety eight in Japan, but okay ninety nine, okay, okay,
cool, All right, then well then what are you thinking? Then?
Well, I saw even our PG because I just saw this and we
realized, Man, oh god, uh yeah, star Craft. Yeah,
so that's one. That's the that's the one that I was like, if
we say StarCraft and then grand Fandango, the list is done, I think.
But I don't know. Well people have already, people have usuded us
on other list for maybe not glossing over but snubbing RTS a little bit,
but like it continues for me a little bit. Jeff in the Engines.
I'm not a giant RTS guy. I am usually so good, by the
way about liking pretty much every genre out there, right, so I want
to get too much gut for it. But RTS is one. I mean,
I just never am super at touched you. But man, StarCraft is
big. Man, It's an important. It still is like it does hit
in a way, right, Like I get it with StarCraft. Yeah,
and it's I get it as well. At that time, I had chosen
Command and Conquer, and that's what I spent my time with like three those
years, so it's like, oh, yeah, I see StarCraft happening,
and boy that looks even bigger than what's happening over here. But I missed
out on it. A couple of RPGs that did come out of nineteen ninety
eight, even ins I get it now, Final Fantasy Tactics is that that's
actually no, that would have been ninety seven Believer or not. Zeno Gears
knows. Okay, people love Zeno Gears, Yeah they do. I mean
time still, I never quite got into Zeno Gears as much as these people.
I mean, oh, that's a lot of them. But yes,
uh, this is the one though. We're like the games kind of unfinished
at the end, so they just sort of start like showing texts and you
fight some bosses, which people describe that to me, I'm like, you
still love this game even with that giant flaw, and they're like, oh
yeah, so you know, Gears, people still talk about it. It
means a lot to people. Uh, that's fine. Obviously, not getting
people have played this game. Panzer Dragon Saga came out in nineteen ninety eight.
That's interesting. Probably in the last Saturn game we'll ever talk about.
Yeah, but I played that. I didn't play all the way through,
but I enjoyed the eight hours or five hours probably that I put into that.
It's that's a good game. It's a very cool game. Yeah,
I think it's very cool. Oh God, grant to Rismos nineteen ninety eight
and then the US that's messed up. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
And this, like this list is already so I mean here, let
me put some of those on there, Grand Trismo, what were some of
the other ones? StarCraft? StarCraft's a big one, yes, you know,
Gears, But it's fine to see the games that like sold really well
back then and now, like you know, two Raters three, right,
he talks about two Rater three anymore? Yep, I do. I do
not now Unreal it is nineteen ninety eight, remember Unrail, Yes I do.
Yeah, I do. Wish it would get a remaster treatment like we
just got with Quick to be fun to see Unreal guzzied up a bit.
I think, I think if there's something else I've missed, yeah, I
think that's why don't we look to our community now see what they say.
Maybe they'll point out some things we've missed. We'll get an idea which ones
they're really excited about. Yep, just give me a second to get that
set up and just take a moment. Chad was right, Mike tact Texas
ninety eight in the US. Really yep, oh shit, they were almost
Yeah, they were like six months apart as a huge gap, a huge
game. I'm sure. I know, I know, I know that's I
think that's lined up. Okay, Well, while you reconcile with that new
fact, Yakuza Wolf says Metal Gear redefined the way story would be stories would
be told in gaming and has impacted the industry in ways that can still be
felt to today. Well, the gameplay hasn't held up the best, it's
still better than Twin Snakes and that has to count for something. Yeah,
I still like playing Metal Gear Solid one. I know people say that as
an age gram. I don't know. I think that's all. That's a
complete lie. I think it's aged incredibly well. I think it's I think
it makes advantage of being a PlayStation one game, maybe better than any PlayStation
one game. It makes that PlayStation one aesthetic just absolutely sing. And when
you try to do things and make it like modern, like at a first
person mode like they did our first person aiming that they did in Twids Stakes.
It breaks the game because it's not designed for that. It's designed to
work with this top down mostly in mind, and it just it works so
well. I played to this game multiple times throughout the years. I never
felt aged to me. I love it. I can't wait to play it
again when that collection comes up. Alex Wolfe says Ochrine of Time is my
first game ever and clearly the best Selda game ever, even without my nostalgic
obsession. Damn good game. Beef Hammer says some scrambled words, I can't
really crash Bandicoot three, pokem Jandrette and Blue incredible core Formula remade a bunch
of times in the first one throughty one are still beloved. Jet Wolf says
grim Van Dango, Rock Party says StarCraft Wolf just Mcbasketball says Okerine of Time,
Miliger, Solid, StarCraft, Brudeours, Bandra KAZOOI. This should be
the list. Blabo Toront says Half Life was the first grown up video game
I played after I bought my first gaming magazine in late nineteen ninety seven.
What an opening. The German version had robots instead of marines because that was
the height of video games caused violence craze. Over Here he mentioned StarCraft Swells
and middle Gear Solid Razzle. Jazza says, just went to the nineteen ninety
eight video games Wikipedia page to refresh my memory and hot damn, what a
loaded year. This is of the games I don't get see posted in this
thread, I'm going to shout out ten eighties Snowboarding and Spiral the Dragon when
we didn't mention Mike, do you this year? Spiro is nineteen ninety eight,
Saint, That's that is a very good game. I do like Spiral
wcause I you know, I replayed that in that remake form. It was
a very good remake, but those are pretty literal remakes, and I played
it back then too. It's definitely the best place one that are trying to
do more of it Free Area. Yes, it's it's a very good PlayStation
three D platform. Right, It's pretty simple, but it's still very good.
But they did a good job giving Spiral a fun set of abilities,
his tackle, his dash, that stuff all feels good. He's a that's
a good character, like the way he looks like. Design is very sharp.
It's yeah, that's just it's it's this year is so good at a
big good game expired with the Dragon. I just forgotten that it was this
year. That's insane. Let's see Lane says, nobody talks about this game
anymore, but show Go Mobile Armored Division ruled. I don't know what that
is. I don't know about show Go For some reason, that game captivated
me as a kid. I played through it a lot or just normal human
shooter sections. But there are person shooter developed by Monolith Productions. Interesting might
be one. There's a Balti Monoliths though this is the monolith that data trying
to figure out which this say is the current monolith though this is the Middle
Worth Shadow of War monolith. Okay, okay, yeah. The Vida's Wolf
five says Tim Shaffer released the game, so obviously it should be on the
top five grim Fan Dango game of the year. Did Tony says, Raising
Evil two Fusion says Half Life h Let's see Benji Wolf says okerin of Time
Baby. Ronnie von Donkensteiner says Bomberman Hero. I do kind of like Bomberman
Hero, which I was supposed to be a bomb game or something else.
At first of these a bar miss that's why it plays very quick. This
really only a one player game. Yeah, it's yeah, because it wasn't
meant to be a barman game. But it's actually kind of a lot of
fun. It is much more of like a three D platform or actually got
rented it. But I don't remember a single thing about I should I should
check it was met with the game. That could be cool. It was
Bonker Saw. It was definitely want to be something else. I forget it
was a Bonker something might have just been show Up Bonk though Rumham says Banjo
Kazooe Bopper's Gate three says not to associated some of these submissions. But as
much as I love Pokemon, do not listen nostalgia blind you from the fact
that Red and Blue are literally broken and are riddled with glitches and bugs,
and it's had two roommates to skew the perception of the original games. It's
good Mount Rushmore pick for its importance, but a bad Game of the Year
pick for its technical downfloads. As an actual game, I don't know.
I don't remember experiencing anything like that. I mean, there are bunks,
but a lot of it is like like Missing though people did stumble upon Missing
Tho. Some did, but we all did that because we learned about it
and it was fun to stumble across that. There are other games with bugs,
like what the evasion stat just doesn't work in Final Fantasy three on Super
Nintendent right, but who cares? So I'm gonna have to start because we're
getting a lot of repeats now, so I'm gonna trying to pick out some
things that stick out. Kafka Wolf says a spiral of the Dragon uh Fios's
bantro kazooe uh Wolfieg just wants to get an ah woo. We wanted to
who London Octo says grim Fandango Visions Vision says Thief Thief Thiefs the Dark Project
this year. Yeah check wi look at that. Rogue squads have Roge Squadron
gets completely over showed by Rogue Leader for me later. But Thief the Dark
Project very cool game. That's a game I actually put up for a pull
in the game that's game click because I want to go back to it.
I think it's till in some ways it still does that kind of stealthing better
than modern games do thief was really cool? It deserves a shower out or
sure Breadfish created the game mess logo inside a StarCraft if you want to,
you're taking a look. Thank you. It's an amazing bread Fish. Thank
you. They like that a lot more, a lot more ofcery enough times,
a lot more metal gears. Uh Buggadillo says easy game of the year
goes to Quest sixty four, and he has a picture here of a looks
like a really old computer monitor or something playing Quest sixty four with a bush
beer and then a salad like mixing bowl with like eight nine ten copies of
Quest sixty four in there. Incredible, it is incredible. What a feast,
screaming mad insistance. Madden will surely get robbed again, Madden NFL ninety
nine getting the sub this time. I'll echo my support for Banjo Kazooi KAZOOI
love. Of course. It's a very very very good game. Good game.
For a while, I didn't, I didn't get it. Actually I
didn't come around and like be like, okay, I get it until Rare
Replay came out. I think it's the rare art style. It has to
grow on you a little bit. It does a little bit, doesn't it.
I mean, yes, I think back then I was like, well,
this just isn't as good as Marto sixty four, So what do I
care? Sure now I'm able to move past that. Right now, it's
like, oh, this is better than every other three D platforms three warped,
Uh, let's see the former the former boomer Wolf four. It was
mentioned Red and Blue Tech and three from Doctor Ryan to Matt Rare Mucky Oh,
fall Out two and Boulder's Gate from Matt Ray Monkeys, Well, some
others that we've had before, but Fallout to probably another one that we're not
gonna I don't know, I never I don't. I mean I don't,
I don't and uh and I haven't played and beat either of them. I
think generally people just like fall Out one more than Fallout too. Maybe I'm
making that. I know people love Fallout. I do know that. Yes,
let's see always be Clothing says I'm not going to pander to Mike Grimm
Fan dangle Manati your mistake. I'm gonna ride the middle Gear Solid band Wagon
instead. Cast bucerusis acherin of Time bench Wolf says, gets enter the get
Go would this be the two D one or is this the first three D
one? I don't know if that it has to be the I'm assuming it's
three ninety eight. Has to be incredible. We'll be able to check it
out soon. We'll be able to see, first of us, how that
sewed up? Yeah, PlayStation, that's the first three D one. Let's
see. I think a long gifts here. Same Parasite Eve, the actual
best game of nineteen ninety eight. Nineteen ninety eight didn't come out in the
UK, though, and he was stuck playing Body Harvest. Soh my god.
Par Parasite Eve is nineteen ninety eight. So was med Medieval Radiant Silver
Gun? WHOA? Is this true? The original Dance Dance Revolution came out
in nineteen Can we put that on there in North America? Nine? Okay?
All right? True? American Dragon ninety eight says Shining Force three Scenario
one, Panzer Dragoons, Saga ocherin of Time, Metal Gear self uh.
Dan Park the Beata says, bravo. I don't know, I don't know
my letters like that. Hello, Jeff the Chris Cornell of Gaming grub and
I'll take it. And Mike the Donald Duck of gaming. Manady almost certainly
definitely the series that revolutionized fighting gets its third installment on May first of nine,
nineteen ninety eight. Was an explosive for the series needed it's talk about
tech in three. Here's one that I was gonna say, but I know
it's I'll have much better hope getting its sequel on to a list like this
eventually. Jeffren says, my favorite game this year is definitely Star Wars Rogue
Squadron, which is very good. I like Rogue Leaders so much more.
I know, I get, I mean Rogue Leaders like just so such a
gorgeous looking game will have a shot. Yes, maybe it just wasn't good
enough yet. I remember having a hard time with Rode Squadron, especially those
missions where it was like protect this caravan, yeah, the the guy.
What are those missions called now? The blankets missions? Escort missions. Escort
missions are rough? They were rough. They were rough in that game,
the rough and every game. Gerbear says Panther Dragon Saga as well. Uh
yes, and then well you know, says Panther Dragon Saga is genuinely really
good, and it's shame more people, not not more people played it.
Still relatively approachable fifteen to twenty hours, at the point where JRPGs were starting
to become fifty plus hour epics. Six inch by Darling Warrants I mentioned for
that name alone. Haven't played it. Looks like one of those Phoenix right
pervert games. Nice Mega Man legends in In fact, I'm out in the
US and nineteen another very good game. Probably doesn't really have a shot here,
I'm afraid. Terryaki Blues says space Station Silicon Valley never got that one.
Yeah, I never really even played it. I never really even tried
it. I would I would confuse it with was the other one with the
funky name back right right? There was two of them, Yes, yeah,
the space Station Silicon and Body Harvest, Body Harvest Body Hart Yes,
and makes those two up constantly. Uh. Nick Turbo talks about how he
wasn't born and then he says he played Banto because we eventually on Xbox three
sixty and he's like, that's the top five game in nineteen ninety eight.
Lenny Cool Diick Denver says, aside from Acrea Time f zero X deserves it.
Almost here to the end, Edwards is Bomberman Hero Service Game Tech and
three and two for Bomberman Hero good On. Edward specifically says the soundtrack alone.
Christian says the King of Fighters ninety eight. Isaac Clark says a NASCAR
ninety nine. Christy's just said King of Fighters date and yell at us for
uh, you know, be sauce. He knows we're not going to put
it on there. It's in all caps, so so he's up. He
is mad. Okay, yes, definitely, damn it, thereis. Yeah,
all right, let's see if there's anything else worth calling out here.
Eventually, Turboshwan does say, can you hear humor me for like five seconds?
Mega Man Legends one. That's my favorite game, at least one in
the honorable It is very fun. I likes one, two, three,
four, five, Yeah, okay, Metal Gift, Solid Zelda, Acred
of Time, Half Life. These are locks for the top five games in
nineteen eighty eight on the shortlist. And let me know if I'm missing anything
Grim Fandego, Banjo, Kazooi, ten Eighties Snowboarding and Pokemon Red and Blue
Resonable to f zero x Tech and three Grant Resmos, StarCraft, Zeno Gears.
I'm gonna look, Jeff, I you know I want Griffin thing on
the list. I don't want them to be I don't want them. You
just be like yeah, sure, and then later when people complain about the
list, be like, well, no, no, I'm not gonna be
okay, Well, Grim fan Diego. One of the first things I think
I ever heard you say is it's one of your favorite It's like your favorite
game of all time, and you have not wavered from that, other than
say, MegaMan three has jumped above that. You still love Grim bandego is
going to get a pass on that? You know, I'm not going to
be like, oh, Mike forced me, I don't. I don't have
a game like that other than ten eighties snowboarding on this list and ten eighty
snowboarding. We can go check my top one hundred. I don't think it
was in like my top twenty. Maybe it was in my top thirty and
maybe not even So, yeah, it's you're gonna get like you're darling on
a list like this. I think I would too, but I don't have
a darling on like that for nineteen ninety eight. Well, let's okay,
let's do this. So those those those three locks let's figure that out and
then we'll figure out what who's getting kind of this fifth spot, I guess
yeah, I might put it first metal Gear Solid and All Grand Time.
Let me do that, Okay, what's the way I said your proposal metal
Gear Solid and a gerend of Time or what I was like, what do
you think? I uh, you know again? At the time, it
would have been ack gerend of time? Easy. These days, I think
I probably go Metal Gear Solid. I think Metal Gear Solid is the best
game of the best year. Well, it's not my favorite game because Pent,
but Metal Gear Solid is so undeniable to me. I think, you
know again, I want to play that version of the game still whereas A
Great Time, but like I don't want to play that in the des't before
anywhere. I'll played that three DS version, fine, thank you. Obviously
All great Time is all great time. It's still a ton of fun,
even though for some reason I don't have like this place in my heart for
it the way I do some of my other favorite Zola games. It's undeniable.
It's an undeniable game, and I will put A Great Time before Half
Life. I will say I like Half Life a lot, having replayed Half
Life, that game is definitely strongest in the first half when you are just
kind of absorbed in a game doing environmental storytelling for one of the first times
ever, and that's neat. And then it also what starts off, it
feels a lot more survival horde, which is to the game's benefit. And
then later on it does kind of just become more of another shooter of the
time, just a really well made one. And that's fine. But like
Half Life does kind of do this, you know, metal You're all at
an awkward time or just like start here, and they kind of just maintain
and then they like expand on themselves in major ways, maybe above Half Life,
but I don't know, maybe we'll see. I put Ihander on here
is one b. I don't even think Einhander came out in nineteen ninety.
I think that's actually last year. We forgot to say anything about Ihander,
but we love Look we've been yoda at about Onhander before. Great game.
Yeah people, they're wrong, but oh yeah, yeah, right, that's
the boomer pick, isn't it. Okay? Yeah, Iander's fantastic. I
think Metal Gear Solid's gonna be number one. I think Zelda's is definitely number
two. Let's put the numbers on the outside here. Uh, I mean
if you I would like to move Half Life down because I think it's seminal
important and not as fun as a lot of other games on this list.
You have a dangle number three, half Life number four, and now it
is a number here. Here's my proposal. Uh, Panther Dragon sag for
number five. No, I really like it a lot. I think it's
it's like a no, it's it's just such a good fun RPG from that
time when so many others are going in the wrong direction. But well,
I mean, what do you want to put up there? Then? Okay,
so my heart would be Pokemon running blue. My brain and maybe even
my conscience, my conscious my guilt says it should probably be Tech of three
or StarCraft. Okay, I can give you tech in three. I don't
know if I want to just like put StarCraft on there because we feel bad.
I don't want to do that number five joke. A Zoo is also
in that category. I mean, I'll let Kazoo if I can get it,
you'll take it if you can get it. Yeah, I mean I
would love to get Pandroo Kazoo on this list, but tecond three is very
very very good techot threes. I mean, you haven't talked a lot about
like why you don't care much about StarCraft. I would like to hear a
little bit more. I don't want on the list. I mean, it's
just like I said, I was playing something else at the time, and
I didn't need to like go be like, oh, well, I'm they'll
play different arts now. It's like, no, I already had my Command
of Conquerors and and and then yeah, I played StarCraft a little bit,
and I also I also played StarCraft sixty four, completely different experience. Although
I had fun with StarCraft sixty four playing with friends on split screen that was
stupid and yeah wild, but yeah, I just I don't know at this
point. It's one of those things. It's like it's appeal has fizzled on
the overtime and it was never that appealing to me in the first place.
This is a personal feeling about it. It's not like I am sure lambasting
the judgment that it's some of course, it's an important big game. These
are all important big games in one way or another. I mean, difficult,
I get StarCraft being up there. It's like, probably was the one
that looks right? Is that what we're doing here? Though I don't know
second three can look right also, I will, I will say, Patrid
dragon Saga would not look right to me. I would, I would say
that. Yeah, but I think it'd be a fun, interesting pick for
five. I think it adds a lot. It's it's it's a good spice
on that list. It is spicy. I will give you that maybe,
but as you know, my crumbs, I can't only hand those too much.
Pans. Dragon Saga is very it's very fun. I have some spicy
news that might help you guys a little here. Yeah. Sure, Linehander
was May fifth, ninety eight in the US. All right, we're not
it's not gonna be dying. But the boomer pick on there, you know
you want? That's right? So good? It would it's so gay.
Yeah, people would be so mad fund the people I had. Hander does
rule uh tech and three is very very good. I mean, look,
I got my Griffin Dango. What do you want to do, Jeff,
what do you want to do? Like I said, I mean, I
want to put Pennady snowburning up there. But that's not gonna happen. So
I mean, uh yeah, I even I like, no, like badly
do you want to put ten eighty snowboard? I there, real bad,
that's but it's like I do, buddy, I do recognize like you get
it though, and were rostabilities there the way of it is crushing you and
your way I got, we got we like we can scroll back here,
like, yeah, I don't feel bad about leaving any of these games off.
Maybe Neo Sturt Masters Masters looking more right than Wavey sixty four, like
that's the like, of course it doesn't. So I just don't feel bad
about any of the stuff we left off here here I put up a ten
eighty, and we're leaving off Bantocerus, we pokeime On, Receival two Tech
and three Grants, Rismo StarCraft, and Patrick Dragon Saga. And now you're
now that I read all those other games, You're right, Patri Dragon Saga
doesn't sound so right anymore. Did you think you didn't beat it? Not
that I know that's been a sort of subject this week, but I mean,
yeah, no, I I didn't beat a lot of these games.
I'd bet Bancho KAZOOI and beat Tenny snowboarding, and I beat a lot of
these games. Actually, yeah, you've beat a lot of these games.
About that one, not that one? Yeah, I just really like it.
I guess most people are beating it right now. That wasn't meat,
that was me. Uh all right, So you were about to say,
people and chat, we're saying something. They want to do a poll?
Why don't we do a poll for funzies? Uh? Between Like, what
are we really thinking about here? Tech and three? Well, you can
do it? Can we do more than two in a poll? Yes?
Do tech and three? Ten a snowboarding and StarCraft? I'm curious. I
think that's what we're actually thinking about. You. I think it's got to
be StarCraft or a pole like that. Well, binding, is there anything
else we want to consider? Grand Tresmo? No? Pokemon? Good?
Uh? I kind of want to consider Pokemon. I like Pokemon a lot.
If we put Pokemon on this list, it's gonna win you thinke I
Yes, I guarantee it. Actually, man, want we should just make
Pokemon number five? Actually, I mean yeah, I mean it's definitely one
that would probably not get much like ire from people. Look at already,
that's our goal is the people please, Yeah, that's not would Pokemon Red
Blues definitely my favorite game of those four personally, but I already kind of
want to look I got a big win here. I don't want to.
No, I mean, Pokemon Red and Blues is not going to look out
a place on this list in any way. Giant, big important deal.
Man. It's funny because you're right, Pokemon oh got away with it,
and then like the other ones are pretty much tied. Although I'm surprised second
three, which we had been yelled at about constantly, isn't less places.
Yeah, that's kind of funny, not fighting game fans. There's they're loud,
but there's not a lot of it. Yeah, they're a loud and
annoying. And I heard their hygiene is not great. Yeah they stink.
Yeah, that's the smash players zon't talk about the rest. I'm probably putting
Pokemon right and Blue up there. That actually probably is right. I think
that's right. Yeah, I think that'll do it. I mean, it's
freaking Pokemon Red and Blue, even though it like came here two years later
than uh. I mean that game freaking made that the ancient game boy relevant
again. They had to make like new versions of the Game Boy. Then
we had a game Boy Colors because this was a hit. We probably had
a game Boy Advance because this was a hit. It basically like redirected the
course of Nintendo in gaming history. Yep. And I when I look at
the list again, it's like as that and that feels right to me.
That's yeah fine, and yeah this is this was always gonna be a tough
year to leave leave stuff off. But it's like, you know, we
weren't even talking up Residual two that much. Like in that like that,
that game didn't stand a chance of making the list, like a lot of
games weren't going to make the list. So here we are. Let's go
and make some people mad on Twitter. I'll post that right now. There
we go like this, So for the audio listeners number one, Metal Gear
Solid, number two, The Legend of Zota Okring of Time, number three,
Grim Fin Dango, number four, Half Life, number five, Pokemon
Red and Low. So yeah, there you go. That seems right to
me. I think if you play all five of those games, you'll have
a good time. Don't worry, everybody. Venture games got bad after this
for basic basically forever except for Phoenix right. So I'm done. I'm done.
I don't but I don't think Phoenix right. Well maybe Phoenix right.
Maybe one of them could make a list once. Maybe there's some really weird,
oddly bad year. Yeah, exactly. Okay, Uh, that is
gonna do it for the best year of nineteen or best games of nineteen ninety
eight. We're gonna go back. We're just gonna do nineteen ninety nine next
time, where it's gonna be Dreamcast Domination. I'm sure. Yeah, absolutely,
let's go little Caliber. Mike. You know what we should do,
and I don't know if we should we if we should do this on Game
mess or Giant Bomb. Now that we're getting near the end of the switch,
we should do the top one hundred games available to buy on the switch.
I was thinking something similar. I think that might be good time.
It could be like an end of the year sort of right, like that
could be uh, like we take a week off and we record that the
week before, and that could be like a big episode or something like let's
wait for them to announce the new which will swowfully happen then we can figure
that out. Sounds good to me, Okay, we're gonna take a quick
break. When we get back. We're gonna talk about the games we've been
playing. And we're back. We're cold noises, step cold noises. All
right, Christian, do you put the like those breaks at the end of
the episode like I used to? Yeah, I was. I don't listen
to the back, so I don't know. But it's cool, al right,
fantastic. Some people will get to get the jokes eventually. All right,
Yeah, so Mike, what have you been playing? Oh gosh,
lots of things. Been trying to squeeze in as much Boulder's Gate three time
as I can, which like still isn't a ton, but it's still that
that just kind of beginning first, like several hours. Still a lot of
fun, really getting your bearings, discovering more party members. I discovered a
devil mommy, very excited about her. I made some desperate to meet her.
Yeah he shouldn't be. Yeah, he has bought for her. I
have my tea right away, like you got right on. You're there the
warlock and dirt, you're out. I don't worry about your step if you
happen to step on me. Mistico accidents happened yeah, and we understand it's
completely okay, but that game just continues to just really oppress me with the
depth of the mechanics and it's surprisingly amazing production values. Really am enjoying it,
kind of beginning to learn a bit more of the incident outs of combat,
which I think can be the trickiest thing here, like the social stuff
you get, like, yeah, roll a dice and I have modifiers to
see if I do a conversation. There's a lot that can go on with
combat, even though at first, just like a cast a spell, you
know different rules in different like measures for success, and I'm used to like,
especially early on, you're like, chances of hitting aren't great a lot
of the times, like you're miss you know, I play you can play
a tactics game. If I'm playing a firearm boom, you almost don't go
in for the attack unless you know it's going to work. And here you're
like, Okay, we're gonna be a little vulnerable here, but it's probably
gonna be okay because I can do this or that and whatnot, so it
all works right, You're gonna it's like you need to quickly learn about how
can I get advantage and things like that, like you think about that,
you have to think about, well, these characters should try to get high
ground if they can. And Okay, as much as fun as it is
to only pick spells with damage numbers on them, maybe this one that puts
grease everywhere is actually very important, right, and having a bar it is
actually a wait, well that can actually do something. And it's like,
yeah, I did, I can because my main character is a cleric.
So you know that that one of those first party members you get shadow heart,
right, Yes, she's a clerk too. I'm like, well,
this is redundant and I want her in my party still for reasons. So
I made her assistant. That's very important. She said one meat thing about
the bigger jerk character. Right, it's okay to be racist if the one
person you know like that is the meeting. I don't. She's old news.
I like devild momby. She doesn't see racist at all yet, fantastic,
that's great news. I'm happy for you about that. Okay, but
I made her I made her a bard instead, since I okay, so
and that's like, what is what what does that entail? Like you just
go in the menu, were no, So there's actually a quest you kind
of stumble. You stumble upon a character if you just explore a bit around
that very starting area, and he will go to your camp and he will
do things like let you change your character's class or revive dead party members,
like here's here's my theory, sir. There's like this backlash towards sex scenes
in movies these days, Like today I saw a tweet about like I tried
to watch Oppenheimer with my family and there's three sex scenes. Oh no,
I have to run away. That's oh my god. Video games seem to
be like, we'll take care of it for you. Well, your dick
hanging out, Yeah exactly, but yeah, with your options seed dick ye.
This game, this game is proud and loud and proud about fucking constantly,
and it is. It's it is having a queer beneficial effect on its
sales, and it's excitement that people have for it. I mean, no
joke, it's the turning point for people talking about this game, or was
literally when they showed the bear sex scene, Like yeah, it's a joke
and it's funny, but it's also actually incredibly effective marketing. Right, It's
like, oh, Okay, so I can bring that sort of fun,
uh, you know, an archive of our own sort of fan fiction sex
Nile yes, humor and storytelling and fun, playful experiences with sex into my
gaming where it should maybe should have been for a long time now. But
this game is like, yeah, we are going to treat it that way
and then we're not going to ever shame you for it. Absolutely, here
we are and it's it is boy, it's raking in the money and I
think it's a huge part of it. So have you what's been your experience
with that so far? Has it mostly just been like, oh, this
character's naked or are you fucking everything that moves? I haven't actually had too
much of that come up yet. No one's come on to me as of
the same moment. It is the specter there, though, is it like
we know it's possible. Maybe you're like, are youls thinking about it?
I don't know, obviously, I am. I didn't tell you like,
well, I need a shadow shadow hearted party more so that she can approve
of be here to approve of me, right that some day she approve of
me. That's how it works. You approve of me so much. That's
in things happen exactly. Yeah, it's like, you know something I think
about. I was like there a little bit where I like, I was
like, I'm tired of these these these sex things in these rspgs are a
little silly. But now I just think about more like, no, I
get it. Especially with this level of animation. It's going to look a
bit better than the weird like rubber dolls rubbing a guess each other we had
in the Mass Effect and Dragon Age Days, Right, so sure, let's
go for it. My other question is, uh, what recommend asked this
of Bailey as well, What recommendations do you have for getting into this game?
Because I am like, I'm always about to boot it up, but
I have other games I'm trying to wrap up as well, so I'm not
like rushing into Boulder's Gate three. But when I have like boot it up,
I'm like, Okay, there is a lot here and it is a
little bit intimidating. How do I like limit that stuff? What should I
focus on to like just push through that those those feelings. What one thing
I really like about this game, I think you can't play his way is
you do not play it as they go to your quest log kind of game,
right, Like maybe I'll look at a map and it'll tell you like
it's a quest over there, and that's okay, But it is so much
better just to actually kind of wander around and you are just going to naturally
stumble across interesting things and like important main quest line things. But just add
also like if you need a save scum a bit, especially as you're getting
your bearings, that's completely fine. F five is quick save, F eight
is quick load. Baby, let's go especially combat early on trying to figure
that stuff out there. You know, you know, the internet's always your
from these things. There's tons of people who know better, who understand all
these games work. Just you know, if you don't understand exactly what you
know battle advantage check is or whatever, like google it real quick and there
will be a thread. You don't even have to put the words boters Gate
three in it right now, and the boters Gate three solution is going to
come up at the moment and it's going to be there to help you.
Are you letting the dice lie or are you saves coming not in a judgment
free zone? No? I So aside from that first time when I rode
the one when you needed a two or better to get shadow Heart in your
party. Aside from that, I've been laying the dice dice. Lie.
I did build a character because I love passing those checks, so like,
I don't a character that has those things. Again, Claric has that inherent
boost to your dice rolls, which is nice. So I you know,
I've generally am passing as main roles as I can't race, so I don't
feel much of a need to worry about that. Christie, you want to
say something, Yeah, this is like an option in the game. This
on by default. It's called like karmatics dice and they yeah, right,
yeah, the game won't let you roll like go in the strike back roles,
so if you like or good roles, yeah, it goes both ways.
Okay, I heard it was both ways but ros, but I don't
know, right, Yes, it's early days that the information could be mixed
up, so maybe it's just bad roles. I probably won't mess with that
setting. I'll just keep it on. Whatever they add on. I think
I might turn it off because if I get a bunch of I think I
want that opportunity to get a bunch of bad roles, right, and then
we'll see yeah, then it actually happens now sign a couple of times,
we're like, to me, like a dialogue option seems kind of unclear,
Like in my head, it's presented as this good thing, and then when
you play it, it's sort of like, that's not really how I thought
that was gonna play out. I thought that I was being nice here and
it actually my character did. That seemed to mean then maybe I'll reload something
like okay, like are you f fibing sa quick saving a lot? Yeah,
yeah, quick saved constantly. Just I mean, that's just a habit
with these kind of games that I like. I'm like, I'm a quick
saved kind of guy. I like the that. I think the r thing
too is get in the habit of like saying I have three miss to play
this game. That's okay, I'll get something done right. That's the other
thing I've heard is like, as much as it feels like a game that
you want to give all day two for the first run, like you can't
accomplish interesting stuff in a half an hour, yep, absolutely, it was
just like Ada counter that's an accomplishment Yep. This is a game that I
feel like I have to play, so I'm getting excited, and it's just
part of it is it's just fun to hear people talking about it already,
so I'm enjoying that. Anything else you're playing, Yeah, well, I
talked about playing the Quick two remaster and thirty x X quite a bit,
but both of those have been really fun. I'm excited to jump into more
of that. Actually. Yeah, and then Pickman four still just very very
good. You know what we're talking about now with that kind of all of
our side campaign, that's kind of yeah, I did it. Yep.
It's like I mentioned this on the bomb cast or somewhere, may might have
been in games moring earlier today. I looked over and because ADDIE's like,
I want to be playing as this guy, and she shows me alba bar,
I'm like, oh, but you can't. And then I look back
and then I look over and it's like, wait, that's not the tutorial
where you do with one. I mean she's playing that as well. What
I oh, it's that that's the thing I do have that I just didn't
even realize that. It's like you just go talk to him to start that
campaign, and I was like, I watched her play a little bit,
and then I realized that the days are counting down and she was like ruining
my run. So I'm like, okay, let me help you a little
bit. And then I'm like, no, actually, I'll just wance.
She's out off here. I'm gonna restart. So I did that, and
I did. I got basically what I like, fixed what she did,
and then did like a day and then I came back later that night and
I played it through in one big setting. It is. It's just so
much fun once you get on a roll with that game, and you know,
a lot of it comes down to like like just that that momentum of
being like, Okay, if I get two today, that means him on
pace. But what if I could get here, I could set things up
and maybe I get two today and they get spaceship parts tomorrow. And it's
like once you get ahead of schedule, that feels so good. And then
I had to get six on the last day and I had a basically groundhog
day. That shit I like five times, like really like to me,
I can do this, and then I like fun hyper optimizing one day at
the very end. Yeah, that's great a lot. So yeah, it
was cool because like I got I did three in one day, like several
times in a row, and then I got to that last place and I
got zero on the first I'm like, oh, I'm screwed. And I
was like, this is going to be difficult. But it's like no,
I think I started working out from there. But I was like, I'm
glad. I'm glad I built up all that extra room to help me actually
explore this area. Beat it in like like twelve days, and it was
it was it's just really really yeah. But I mean your dan Dory is
maybe better than mine. Well let's keep in mind I had the experience of
you saying I thought I was going to get more time, and and so
I'm like, okay, I'm keeping it in my head in a way that
you probably weren't that like I need to worry about this right my head that
like, it's not really fifteen days. So I knew it was really fit
teen days. So it was like, yes, So I very much encouraged
me to stay on point from the very beginning. But yeah, it was.
It was a ton of fun, and I just again to realize especially
in that mode, I don't really need to waste time bringing back all of
these enemies to my base. That's actually not doing very much for it.
Right in that mode. It is a little bit different though, because bringing
back enemies like sprouts more pickmen. But once you have enough pickmen, like
you can only have one hundred out at a time, right righte eventually,
so it's like parkium for them, like or whatever is exactly. So it's
like, yes, you don't want to waste your time bringing back everything.
Yeah, squeaked by Jill. I was worried, like I get to do
this fucking thing again. Oh no, Like I was ready for it,
like whatever, I'll do better, It'll be fine. I also had the
advantage of like seeing Addie play through a little bit of it, like over
like watch over should and it's like, oh, I see where she's like
messing up, and take the compliment. Take the compliment. You're good at
pimmo game. It's a very fun game. So yeah, it's now I'm
I'm back in there chasing Louie and it's, uh, that's that's fun as
well. Yeah, a little rascal out there. I thought I almost all
the onions I always just assumed Louie was like supposed to be Alamar's brother,
by the way, and know nothing about him except that he was the player
two at Pickman two. Yeah, I just assumed, like, well,
that's the Luigi, so that must Alamar's brother. So totally honestly, if
you would have asked me, like last year is Louiem, Like yeah,
I think so, that's not right almost certain way. Probably, I'm like
the caves near the end of the game, I think are really like they
keep getting more and more interesting there gets it's really fun. I once you
go, the dog gets fully upgraded. Yeah, you just sent him in
there and just crush everything. That's like really useful. When it's like,
okay, I have a whole bunch of pickmen with me, and yeah,
I could like do that. I could take the time of like separating them
into like one little group and then take the right pickman into there. The
dog is pretty m immune at this point to everything. I'll just send him
in there if he could take on most enemies so up to a certain size,
and I'll let him do most of the damage and then we'll come in,
come in and clean it up. And it's like that's a good strategy,
and it's nice, especially those night excursions, because you can just send
him to one of the basses and he will probably lock it down all on
his own at a certain point. Yep, it is uh, it's a
lot of fun. Number two games of the year still, although a lot
a lot left to play in terms of god it's eleven. Oh all right,
let's see the super chests and we got to do a comp podcast.
Okay, you hit him? Uh okay. Chris Harden says, I'm a
your lake. But Hurk's Adventures or Rules never played much Hurt's Adventures, I
have to say. Jeff Papa says, just gpt a chance to try out
Oh, just got a chance that this is a chat gypt just the type
of just got a chance to try out my new eight bit do retro style
any esprature on Super Metroid nso feels so much better than the stock Bro controller.
Oh I'm going to be playing super beretch way to get too, because
that's the game. Miss King. Yeah, alright, let's go. That's
fine, and Serapist Kane says, did it. Mention nineteen ninety eight boob
Tattoo game Trespasser that's a game that I immediately know exactly the magazine ad that
game. But I know the magazine ad yes to Oh my god, yeah.
I alright, we'll figure out if next week we want to do nineteen
ninety nine right away. Maybe we'll take a break into Amount Rush m or
Draft or something else. But I don't know. I've been kind of having
phone with these I wouldn't mind doing nineteen ninety now. We'll see. We'll
take a break when and when the time kills right, we'll see. Maybe
that's next week. Maybe not? All right, Mike, where can people
find you on the internet? Uh? Find me on all the places that
told Koto, Twitch, Twitter, Blue Sky, all that stuff. I'm
there. Uh. And when you know giant On, we've been doing some
stuff in job. But you beat back, you'd beat to the batman,
So beat the batman. Dan's gonna be doing the silver campaign if Sonico six
in, which means somehow already my turn will be up again in a bit.
I don't I don't know. It seems like way too fast to me,
but we're getting there. Hey, it's your your fault from picking You
did this to yourself. Mike did this to yourself. I pick in a
short back Batman wasn't That was as long as the Robecot game. You cheated
by doing a bunch of two hour episodes because I had to do an hour
from mysel. I was like, well, I have to go work now.
I can't play roebook Cop all day here. I had to stop everybody.
The first thing played for like two and a half hours. It was
like you should stop out and you were like, oh, we don't have
to. I was two and a half hours to realize that, Like,
Jeff, I don't work here. I need a code word for that,
so I can I know because I lose track of time. Really, Mortal
Combat as well, like we just kept going, oh, well that was
fun. Well Mortal Combat was easy for me to multitest. Oh yeah,
no, no, when you're playing, I get it's different. Yeah,
all right. Uh me, I am Jeff Grub on Twitch. I think
I'm gonna stream tomorrow. I always say, though I have it, that's
kind of like knowing when you do, because then I won't. God,
well, here's the thing. It's like, I might stream to have people
help me with boulders Gate so I can. Honestly, I assumed the beginning,
and it was incredibly helpful because they did tell me a lot of things
I didn't understand me. Yeah, because it's like I think, like the
video game side of it, I think I could probably get pretty quickly.
But there's a lot of DN d uh sort of cruffed. Not a bad
one. There's the way spells work, very excusing. I can't with that
for sure. Listen to Real Play podcast a bunch of times. Still don't
know what a can trip is. So I'm gonna have just the spells you
can actually always use. Okay, well that's the can't trips for the use
can trips. Feel good about that. The other one slots Yeah yeah,
the spell slots you are way we have way less of and you need to
take a long rest again more. Yeah, well we'll figure it out all
out. Why everybody, thanks to listen to catch you next time, see
you later. Oh, let's breaking, go Jeff, Let's see each other
here. Okay, look I'll say it. There's you should probably have to
see semen at some point. I am good, Yep, no problem,
go ahead. Yeah. D d R five is getting a lot cheaper,
for sure, that's true. Everything's getting cheaper because no one's fucking building PCs.
So that's the that's the biggest recommendation is you're right to build right now.
If you've been holding off, go now, build now before the market
bounces back because everything's on fire sale basically because no one's buying anything, so
good choice to wait. Yeah, go full her mentality whatever like most people's
buying and this world review you want missed with that, like yeah, like
the what is it the sixties sixty sixty seven hundred XT or whatever that everyone
loves. Everyone loves it for a reason because it's your best bang for your
buck right now. On the higher end, I have the Yeah, I
have the sixty seven hundred ext. The Radiant is pretty good and it works
fine. I can run pretty much everything like maximum detail everything at an ADP
and it just works fine. Oh got the forty ninety Okay, you're good
then yeah, any if anything else you're building up to that, yes,
exactly, everything's going to be keeping up with that four years pretty much.
Like Yeah, if that's the case, you need a big, big PSU,
so I would I would even go at least like twelve hundred, not
even a thousand. You want to go like twelve hundred at least Line is
doing some testing when that thing, or when thirty ninety first came out a
day it was like, yeah, even if you have more enough voltage run
through this thing, you need even higher so that power spikes don't cause your
entire And that's that's the kind of thing that has happened to me in the
past. And it's like, oh, man, I thought this was enough,
but it's not, so I would just go straight to the fifteen hundred
PSU. It's going to be worth it in the long run. And it's
not like, oh, it's prying a fifteen hundred all the time. So
power supplies aren't that expensive there, fairly price yep. And then uh,
just get a decent just get a decent game at CPU unless you're doing all
the other kind of work. It doesn't sound like that's the case if you're
doing more skin stuff or like all right, and then and then get a
pair with a four K monitor because if you've got a forty ninety, you
better have a four K monitor, yeah, or like an ultrawide or something
done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but more than anything more than two
K, Like you want more than two K more than two ok okay,
I'm more than a two K, more than a two K pixel screen basically
two K for women two ksp uh okay, then three fourteen Yeah, fourteen
forty. What is it like, there's gonna be a K for that,
right, people will takenly call it two K, but they're wrong. Okay,
Sean is getting real big. Actually here, everyone calls that two KO,
calls that. You don't call it shit? I do? We call
it you know what we call ad? Yeah, yeah, calls that two
K the ultra wide. They're just gonna keep arguing with fourteen forty p.
That's good. That's that's fine. If you have a two fourteen forty screens
that's good as well. Uh okay, I'm sorry someone just putting a naked
person thing. Yeah, no, I got it. We're right here.
I'm just getting to making sure that we are lined up. You guys,
they're gonna do a pause for Christian then get back into that is right.
No, yeah, I know, hang on, let me just get everything
going here. Never enough Okay, by the way, Benji sent some stuff
are but we can probably wait for next week for that. Yeah, we're
gonna have enough this week. I think, yeah, thanks so Benji,
Benji, next we will do that. This is gonna be a blood brother.
Okay, I am ready to go. I'm gonna have a pause and
then bring it back in. Give me a wet pass. All right,
there we go? All right? Who wouldn't think that Mike's the mike ability
or the lack of ability to like compromise, was actually a shield of responsibility
for you, chef, like you didn't have to think about it. That's
kind of crazy. He was protecting you. It's not like he was like
imposting his eyes. He's like takes on you. He was actually protecting you
from you to think about like getting like like a number five in this list,
then know what he's gonna like, I'm a hero really yeah, if
you think about it resolutely. I mean, for me, you know the
games I feel strongest about number one and number two, like good like Metal
Solid all the ogreative time. We're good there, Matinity Snowboarding obviously, I
mean I recognize Metal, Gear Solid and Zelda. After that, it's like,
oh yeah, let's figure out the rest of it of this list,
but those are the games for sure, Harry, jump right back into it.
Jeff I am good to get jump right back in. Let's do it
right after this little break of silence. The silence has to be called