WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.240 The Chilly Effect is sponsored by Wallstreet, Window dot Com and listeners like you, 2 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:15.359 yeah yeah, and in our media, Jack looks like it's April sixteenth 3 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:19.440 of twenty and twenty four, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar. 4 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:23.839 This the o'celly effect, And you probably not listening to it live, 5 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:29.760 but I am broadcasting live and we are also podcast afterwards on your various podcasters 6 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:32.719 djore. So it is what it is, it was what it was, 7 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:36.520 and it's gonna be what it's gonna be. I've had a lot of difficulties 8 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:39.960 over the past couple of weeks trying to get steady live shows out. I've 9 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:44.119 invited people who didn't show up. I had other issues, Internet issues. 10 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:48.560 It just seemed like the universe was conspiring against me, except somehow I made 11 00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:52.200 it for Friday nights and was able to do the open call in shows. 12 00:00:52.799 --> 00:00:56.280 Anyway. I invited two friends to join me tonight, and if you're a 13 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.560 regular listener or a longtime listener in the show, you'll know who these guys 14 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.000 are. But let's get to it. Regular Joe is with me. Why 15 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:06.959 do I call him regular Joe, Well, because he's pretty regular. He's 16 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:12.079 a regular guy and usually somehow with a completely different accent, shares very similar 17 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:17.719 opinions to my own, except that he disconnects from the news more often than 18 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:21.400 I do. And who else do we have with us? Captain Tripps, 19 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.719 the guy that I have talked about because he does work in the medical industry, 20 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:29.599 and we don't don't We don't discuss exactly what he does usually, although 21 00:01:29.599 --> 00:01:32.640 I think it's been brought up a few times, And whenever we want to 22 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:36.680 discuss medical stuff, there's my consultant, there's my friend, because he's got 23 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:40.640 sanity when it comes to this. He's not just a you know, regularly 24 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.359 programmed doctor who shows up and says, stick to the schedule. You need 25 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:47.439 to be on the schedule, and you must do what you're told because this 26 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:51.920 is what the AMA told me to do and all that kind of good stuff. 27 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:56.680 Anyway, probably the only medical professional who actually trust on the show, 28 00:01:56.799 --> 00:01:59.159 and one of the guys that I really wish I could hang out with, 29 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:02.480 except he lives in Kentucky. So let's start in Kentucky where there was a 30 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:07.239 storm that blew through recently, but I don't know if it touched him. 31 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:12.759 Regular Joe, how you doing man. Oh, you know, the same 32 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:15.840 old, same old, regular as can be. But no, I didn't 33 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.560 get hit with any storms. This place is kind of a geographical oddity, 34 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:25.280 well meteorology meteorological oddity as it were. It seems like any bad storms that 35 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:30.039 roll through, they kind of dissipate to the west of me and then regain 36 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.680 strength to the east of me. Okay, yeah, you gotta be giveful 37 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:42.240 with those multi syllabic phrases because they get a little trippy meteorological Wow. Hey, 38 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.560 look, that's tough for a guy from Jersey too, so don't worry 39 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:49.120 about it. But no problems there. But I did see storms in Kentucky. 40 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:51.319 I saw I was sure was in the news. But we're not going 41 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:53.879 to pay attention to too much of the news. I do want to talk 42 00:02:53.919 --> 00:02:57.639 about the global condition, which unfortunately is going to have to have his touch 43 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:00.719 on news before we're done. But let's also say hi to Captain Trips. 44 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:06.639 How you doing tonight, my friend? Oh, I'm doing just fine, 45 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:09.520 doing just fine, gentlemen. We had we had a nice we had a 46 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:14.599 nice run of storms come through here last week. One of my colleagues that 47 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:20.759 it's tornado touchdown in our backyard. M uh yeah, hey, how look, 48 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.960 we all know, we have known when you've called in or been part 49 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:28.199 of the show that you now reside in what you called the Santa stan in 50 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:34.639 Florida. There I do quick question, are you anywhere near this horrific horrendous 51 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:39.400 Uh seems like sheriff's deputies are involved in the shooting, carjacking and then burning 52 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:44.879 up of a car and a woman in Florida over the weekend. Or no, 53 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:49.439 now I think that was that's not your neighbors. No, it's not. 54 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:53.280 I saw hold on, let me look because I saw a quick piece 55 00:03:53.360 --> 00:04:00.800 on the story. It wasn't around me. Uh, I'm sorry, Yes, 56 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:06.599 yes, this was. It was a Hispanic woman, correct, is 57 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:10.280 that? Yes? Yeah? Yeah, Homestead, No, this was, 58 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:15.080 oh god, homestead. Now this is South Florida, south and south South 59 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:19.680 Florida kind of inland if you all remember Hurricane Andrew. But that's that's where 60 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:24.319 that's the Seminole County. So yeah, we're down by the Everglades. Well, 61 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:27.639 I have noticed that since you've been down there, you're using words like 62 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:30.879 you all now a little more often, so I know that things are affecting 63 00:04:30.920 --> 00:04:33.480 you. But I always ask everybody when they're local to something, or at 64 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:38.759 least it's in their state if they're anywhere nearby, because it usually provides a 65 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.319 different perspective. I'm asking Joe about, you know, storms and tornadoes and 66 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:46.759 hurricanes. I'm asking you about carjackings. But you know that this has no 67 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:50.040 reflection on Kentucky or Florida per se, because, after all, people think 68 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:55.680 that nobody has guns in California, but apparently they do because over the weekend 69 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:59.759 there was a three hour shooting spree in uh Let's see what what is that 70 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.800 Marina del Rey in an apartment complex. This guy went berserk with all kinds 71 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:09.720 of automatic weapons and was shooting up a whole complex for three hours in California. 72 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:16.360 So you know, things happen that one gun control states. Well, 73 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:20.160 you know, just because there's gun control in the state doesn't mean that somebody 74 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:24.399 doesn't get a hold of a weapon and go crazy. So I don't know. 75 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:28.040 Look, look how states Chicago is, Well, yeah, there you 76 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:32.040 go, Illinois, right, Illinois, Hey, my my old my old, 77 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:35.800 my old home, the home area, d C, the DC area, 78 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:41.199 They DC and Maryland very strict gun control. And I still get some 79 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:45.079 of the headlines from uh I still get headlines out of there, and it's 80 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:47.639 gotten crazy in the last couple of years since I've left. And in my 81 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:51.199 in my defense, in my defense, my defense, I was not part 82 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:54.639 of any shooting. I just want to say that for the record. Yeah, 83 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:57.879 you know that's true, in my in my defense of the use of 84 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:01.439 the term, y'all, I ticked that up when I lived in North Carolina 85 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:08.439 about twenty years ago. And actually I've lived the better over half of my 86 00:06:08.480 --> 00:06:11.680 life south of the Mason Dixon Line. To be honest with you, DC, 87 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:14.399 it's not really the south, but it is south of the Mason Dixon 88 00:06:14.399 --> 00:06:18.000 Line. Okay, hey, fair enough, But d C. You know, 89 00:06:18.040 --> 00:06:20.319 were you living there at the time of the d C sniper and all 90 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:25.319 that too. I wasn't. I was back in Pennsylvania at the time, 91 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:29.800 okay, But but where I lived, I wasn't. I wasn't far. 92 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:33.319 In fact, I I would still I was still going to the I was 93 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:36.240 in that area quite a bit at the time, but not during the whole 94 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:43.680 sniper incident. But but I I remember it remember it quite well. Yeah, 95 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:45.920 no, it was. It was the craziest thing, and I remember 96 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:48.240 the weirdest part of it. Was the reaction when the guys were arrested, 97 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:53.480 because everybody in the world swore up and down it had to be a white 98 00:06:53.480 --> 00:06:57.800 guy who did this, and uh, and it turned out it was not, 99 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:01.680 you know, according to law enforcement. Allegedly, I should say, 100 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:06.480 because even though he was convicted, was it to Lee Boy Malvow and John 101 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:13.920 Mohammad he called himself whatever. Yeah, but you know, in recent years 102 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:16.160 I kind of revisited this story a little bit. It's been a long time, 103 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:19.120 but that dude himself had a military history, and I want to say, 104 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:23.560 if if I'm not mistaken, it was military intelligence, not the kid, 105 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:27.120 but the older of the two. Yeah. Well, you know, 106 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.319 see that's the other funny parties. You're not allowed to say this out loud 107 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.240 usually, but I mean, there's a pretty good history of guys who make 108 00:07:33.319 --> 00:07:39.120 spectacular, you know, shooting events happen. A lot of them do have 109 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:44.480 some military connection. I'm not saying the majority or anything like that, but 110 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:46.439 you know, going all the way back to the guy with the Texas clock 111 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:50.519 tower deal in the sixties who said, you know, please, somebody examined 112 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:56.639 my brain and shot himself in the heart, right, that guy going all 113 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.000 the way back to there. But I mean a lot of guys, And 114 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:03.519 look, we've talked about PTSD extensively on this show, and you know, 115 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.399 if you don't treat people properly, could lead to things like this, just 116 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:11.079 saying. But look, I'm not making excuses for any shooter and we're not 117 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:16.839 talking about shooters tonight either, although we are talking about shots being fired because 118 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:20.759 I don't know about you, guys, but let's let's get into this. 119 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.040 See what it is that you've heard and what it is you know regarding UH 120 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.279 the the circumstances, gentlemen. Yes, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stay I'm 121 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.519 gonna. I'm sorry. I don't mean you know if I'm gonna stay connected, 122 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.399 but me, I have to, I have to step out. Okay, 123 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:39.679 you do your thing and I'll talk to regular Joe. Uh So, 124 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:43.240 Joe, are you aware that there's something happening in the Middle East since October? 125 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:50.679 And are you aware of the most recent developments. Let's just say no, 126 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:56.519 vaguely at best. I have been very unplugged from uh parent events other 127 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:01.240 than unless it's local I see. Okay, Well, first of all, 128 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:07.080 they're okay in October October seventh, in fact, there was this invasion of 129 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:15.399 people from Palestine crossing over into the territorial Israel and attacking it, and this 130 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.759 was, you know, the major terrorist attack all that, and it sparked 131 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.840 a serious response from Israel, where they have been pounding the hell out of 132 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:31.360 well what is Palestine Gaza mainly for months now. This has been going on, 133 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.799 a lot of people have died, There are all sorts of things happening. 134 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:39.200 The MSM immediately responding with, of course, defend Israel, defend Israel. 135 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.919 And now things are turning a bit. Seems like there's a lot of 136 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:50.840 support Palestine sentimentality out there on the left, et cetera, because there are 137 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:54.519 serious things happening here where a lot of civilians are being killed, being starved 138 00:09:54.519 --> 00:10:00.360 out, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But recent events have 139 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:09.559 Iran getting involved, allegedly sending drone strikes into Israel directly. Now Israel is 140 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:15.000 going to respond, and there's been a lot of speculation about that. And 141 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:20.360 as I'm just telling you the very very very empty, no details version of 142 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.279 this story, do you have any thoughts related to this? Does this make 143 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:30.039 you think anything, turn your mind to anything, or have you imagining what 144 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:39.399 might come next. I'm always worried when Persia is involved since ancient times, 145 00:10:39.480 --> 00:10:45.720 is why I refer to it as you know, his ancient term. I'm 146 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:52.159 always worried when they're involved. Also when you hear of alliances in that region. 147 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.240 That has caused for concern as well, and mainly to me, because 148 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:05.240 most of the world's people consider those lands holy, and people lose their shit 149 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:11.399 overthinks that they consider holy and desecrate it worse than they ever could if they 150 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:16.200 didn't, you know, claim or feign to observe it. Now, do 151 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:20.080 you think that this is based and I'm asking you this question open, honest, 152 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.919 I'm not trying to load it too much. Do you think that this 153 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:30.320 is based only on the concept of biblical prophecy and the idea that you know, 154 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.840 at some point the apocalypse, the armageddon, if you will. I 155 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:39.679 mean most scholars say it begins at Megido, but I mean some part of 156 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.639 that world out there in the Middle East. That's where all of the mass 157 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.919 destruction is supposed to begin, like when the world ends, or when the 158 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:50.480 rapture happens, or when the great reckoning occurs on the planet, et cetera. 159 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:56.919 You think it's all steeped in that Judeo Christian teaching or is there something 160 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:03.039 more to it? Not to me. To me, it's more crowd mentality 161 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:07.440 than anything. And the crowd mentality is that land is holy. So whether 162 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.360 Prophecy says it is or says it isn't. If people think it's holy, 163 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:16.840 they'll kill everybody because of it. Ah, So you're looking at the moment. 164 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.000 They may indeed be incited by what it is I'm sighting, but that's 165 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:24.919 not your thought process. Your thought process is because it is venerated as a 166 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:28.960 holy area and something to be contended. You know, there's a difference when 167 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.440 you're fighting for land, you're fighting for money, you're fighting for oil, 168 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.360 and you're actually fighting on God's side one way or another. There's a big 169 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:41.399 difference. So when you think it's connected to the kingdom or to God or 170 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:46.440 the gods or whatever, this kind of creates a different motivator. Which is 171 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:52.039 even more intense. Is that where you're going with this. Absolutely the more 172 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:58.519 you can stoke people's emotion on it. And I don't I think that even 173 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:03.000 politics pails and compare to religion. If you stoke their emotion on their core 174 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:07.000 beliefs, then you'll burn the world right. Well, at this point, 175 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:11.679 though, I mean in America anyway, it seems like emotionally there's no difference 176 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:16.000 any longer. Where I mean there is a practical religion to this. You're 177 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:20.360 either with the evil ones or you're against the evil ones. And that is 178 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.759 the way religion lays it out right. You're either on the side of God 179 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:26.360 or you're not. You're either on the side of right or you're not. 180 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.799 And there's no gray, there's just one side or the other. You know, 181 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.919 you speak in absolutes like a sith according to Star Wars, and that's 182 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:39.320 just the way it is. Now, what's fascinating to me is that you 183 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.240 bring up Persia, and of course, yes, geographically part of that area 184 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.480 was Persia. But when you take a look at it, and you take 185 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.600 a look at the ethnicity of people, and even those that want to claim 186 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:54.039 that this is very you know, prophetic and everything else. The people that 187 00:13:54.080 --> 00:14:00.720 are in Iran, they're not speaking Arabic, and I don't think they're by 188 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:07.840 genealogical connection. They speak Farsi, I believe, or at least for the 189 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.759 Arcia largely Farsi. I think they speak other languages as well that I think 190 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:16.440 that the Yeah, I think the langua franca as it were, is Sparsi. 191 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.879 Yeah, it's it's farc like pretty much we speak English in the United 192 00:14:20.919 --> 00:14:22.639 States, but then again you go to some places and you might have to 193 00:14:22.639 --> 00:14:26.600 speak Spanish. It's just the way it is. But generally speaking, you 194 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:31.519 would say you speak English and American English. In America. I think they 195 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.600 speak Farsi over there. And ethnically, I don't believe that they're actually, 196 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:41.799 you know, Persians or Arabs or the ancestors of you know, their ancestors 197 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:46.159 are not the Persians, although geographically they're in the right area. Now, 198 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:52.840 the bones of contention that lie in that area called Israel is yet another story, 199 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:56.080 and some people in America feel directly connected to it, because, after 200 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:00.279 all, it is part of the Biblical land, you know, jes in 201 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:03.600 Bethlehem and all that, which, of course Bethlehem is in part of what 202 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:09.360 we call Palestine today, and that's the way it is, so of course 203 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:16.799 excellent. So the fascinating part to me is whether this is directly connected to 204 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:22.000 your emotional reaction or if it's just you're concerned about the way the rest of 205 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:26.320 the world is dealing with this, because if your thoughts immediately turned to it, 206 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:31.240 then you must be convinced that this is you know, like any war 207 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:35.960 over there is a holy war of one type or another, and that is 208 00:15:35.039 --> 00:15:41.000 a different level than politics or you know, like I said, fighting over 209 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:45.039 resources, et cetera. Although, like I said, nowadays it's difficult to 210 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:48.279 tell the difference. So here's the thing on my show, I'm not going 211 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.679 to cover the opinions really tonight. We are and I'm going to go to 212 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:56.320 these guys and pick their brains a little bit and get it their opinions. 213 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.519 But as far as I'm concerned, I'm not gonna give my opinion about what 214 00:16:00.559 --> 00:16:03.519 it is I want to see happen, what it is I think is wrong 215 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.320 or right anymore. When it comes to this Middle East thing, I'm going 216 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:08.519 to have to start covering it, and I'm going to cover it as objectively 217 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:12.759 as possible. Now, I started to look around at some of the interesting 218 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:17.759 stories, as I always do, I'm always trying to keep informed. Happen 219 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.600 to notice that as far as the murder rate is concerned in the US, 220 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:26.159 a lot of the you know, major major US cities, the homicide rate 221 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.840 is actually falling, believe it or not, despite the chaos in Mayhem that's 222 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:33.639 being reported, the actual homicide rates are falling in most major US cities. 223 00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:38.360 Stuff like that. But also I'm taking a look at the very strange stew 224 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:45.120 that's going on over this conflict in the Middle East. Activist Post, for 225 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:48.279 instance, Let's see, is this today's story or was this yesterday? Yesterday? 226 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:53.519 It looks like yesterday's story was a Ram's strike against Israel, a psyop, 227 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.679 you know, an opinion piece written by Janet fal And over on Activist 228 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:03.639 Post, and you have your ABC, NBC, CBS and the whole alphabet 229 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:07.519 soup trying to figure out what Israel is going to do, how they're going 230 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:15.279 to respond to these drone attacks that were what sent by the what they've been 231 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:18.400 telling us now since October, and of course way previous to that, but 232 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:25.720 they've been stressing it since October. The greatest sponsor internationally of terrorism on the 233 00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:32.119 planet, Iran, decided to directly send drones at Israel in response to what's 234 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:37.359 happening. But the question stands from Phalen's article here, you know, is 235 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:42.240 this a syop? On one hand, is this a psychological operation. Are 236 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:48.200 we getting tuned up? Are we getting prepared for the idea that global conflict 237 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.119 is a certainty? So with that, I'll go over to Captain Tripps and 238 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:56.480 ask you, you know what are your how well read in are you on 239 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:00.920 the recent events? And you know what do they ought to ramatically make you 240 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:03.079 think of go to in your mind? Et cetera. And by the way, 241 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.079 I talked to the Greek about this on a recent Rated Why episode that's 242 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:11.640 only available on Patreon if you go to the Greek Speak on Patreon. Not 243 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.359 even available on my site, o'cell and the Greek anymore. It's only over 244 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:19.440 there. But anyway, we did talk about this on a recent I think 245 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:23.920 it was one o three or one oh four of Ocell and the Greek Rated 246 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:29.839 Why. But his take is decidedly different than most people's. I'm curious about 247 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:33.160 your take on this thus far, Captain Trips, you have any sort of 248 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:40.480 opinions and how informed are you about what's happened so far? I've been following 249 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:45.039 it, you know, I just as a little backstory. Hold on a 250 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:48.400 second, yeah, no problem. I mean I want to get just the 251 00:18:48.519 --> 00:18:55.519 general idea of what somebody who I know is concerned with global events, international 252 00:18:55.519 --> 00:19:00.599 politics, et cetera, geopolitics. No problem, I'm gonna I'm gonna step 253 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:03.359 away. I'll be back in probably about five minutes and I will give my 254 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.039 opinion. No problem, I'll be back. I'll get to you when you 255 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:08.720 get back. So, Joe, let's go back to you again. Then 256 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:15.279 you know the idea about the sye of the psychological operation. Do you have 257 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:21.519 any opinion as to whether you feel like we're sort of being prepared? Is 258 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:26.839 this the pre Is this the pre show, the pregame show for what's going 259 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:30.759 to be a larger conflict? I mean, is this something that's all going 260 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:34.160 to be timed for the twenty twenty four selection, which now is only what 261 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:38.599 let's see, if we count it up seven months away, we're gonna be 262 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:42.839 dealing with this in November, right, So I mean, what do you 263 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:48.359 think is this, you know, a psychological operation to prepare us? Or 264 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:53.319 do you think this is, you know, something that's just bound to have 265 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:57.359 happened again? Kind of fits with the Greek's predictions though for twenty twenty four 266 00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:02.640 and twenty twenty five. If you think about a leading up to conflict going 267 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:06.799 on over there this time, it'll actually be real. It does seem a 268 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:10.640 lot more extreme. So any thoughts, even though you're not so well rideno, 269 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:15.119 is that actually where he stands on it is that this one bears fruit. 270 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:18.720 He didn't really go there just yet, but years ago. This is 271 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:23.680 right about the target time he said things would begin. So yeah, well, 272 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:29.640 whether you know, I know what he bases his on, and I 273 00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:33.920 cannot because clearly I have not done the work that he claims to have done 274 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:40.799 and I'm likely not to. However, again, if you just look at 275 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:44.039 the people, you know, look at the people of the region, how 276 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:48.000 to they feel? How far is it spreading? You know, what is 277 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:52.200 what is the overall emotion? And if it's split around fifty to fifty, 278 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:57.960 like most things almost always, are probably going to be pretty bad. So 279 00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:04.680 I look at it more as mathematical and the way that people generally behave and 280 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:10.000 the way that people generally behave in mathematically that I feel like it could be 281 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:18.400 the start of something worse. Yeah, totally understand. Yeah, So let's 282 00:21:18.440 --> 00:21:22.279 take a look at a story printing the Associated Press yesterday, just real fast 283 00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:25.559 while we wait for the captain to return, and I'll get his opinion on 284 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:29.319 it. And I'll just read a little bit to you from a story published 285 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:33.960 on April fifteenth, Like I said, Associated Press, So let's see dear 286 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:41.720 al Bala okay Gaza strip ap that's the byeline headline there anyway. The Israeli 287 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.759 military renewed warnings on Monday for Palestinians not to return to northern Gaza, a 288 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:52.440 day after witnesses and medical officials set Israeli troops opened fire and killed five people 289 00:21:52.920 --> 00:21:56.920 among throngs of displaced residents trying to walk back to their homes in the devastated 290 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:02.319 area. Hundreds of thousands of Palestineans were driven from the north after Israeli force 291 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:10.720 forses first launched their offensive there soon after Hamas's October seventh attack on southern Israel. 292 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:14.680 In the months of fighting since, vast parts of the north have been 293 00:22:14.799 --> 00:22:19.640 flattened, including much of Gaza City. After months of Israeli restrictions on aid 294 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:25.079 to the North, some three hundred thousand who remained there are on the brink 295 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:30.359 of famine, according to the United Nations. Still, many Palestinians have wanted 296 00:22:30.359 --> 00:22:33.680 to go back, saying they are sick of the conditions they endured in displacement 297 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:40.359 for months. Families have been crammed into tent camps, schools, turned shelters, 298 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:45.640 and homes of relatives throughout the south of the Gaza Strip. Some also 299 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:52.839 fear remaining in Rafa, Gaza's southernmost town as Israel. Israel says it plans 300 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:57.920 to attack it eventually to root out Hamas. Late Monday, Defense Minister Yav 301 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:04.799 Galant met with top officials to work on preparations for the Rafa invasion his office 302 00:23:04.799 --> 00:23:11.279 set. The international community, including the United States, have voiced strong objections 303 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.720 to the planned offensive, saying it will endanger the estimated one point four million 304 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:22.759 Palestinians sheltered in Rafa. Anyway, there's more in that story from the AP 305 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.799 which I'm gonna post in the Ocelli chat room, along with maybe some other 306 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:33.319 references to tonight's discussion. But anyway, that is part of the condition that's 307 00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:37.359 going on. And indeed there have been you know, the IDF, the 308 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:44.319 Israeli Defense forces have clearly fired upon medical aid, have fired upon humanitarian aid, 309 00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:48.200 have fired upon civilians unarmed, et cetera. And what they say is, 310 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:53.759 you know, look, it's all legitimate targets because the entire region is 311 00:23:53.799 --> 00:24:00.079 basically at war and seeking to destroy us, So it doesn't matter who were 312 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.880 shooting at. We're definitely aiming at the right targets. And indeed, there 313 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:07.160 has been a bit of a pushback from the international community as of late, 314 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:11.559 and the Biden administration is getting crap from certain you know, wings of certain 315 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:15.759 parties, et cetera. They're even debating in Congress as to how to detach 316 00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:22.920 the Israeli aid from other projects so that they can continue to fund that because 317 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:30.400 despite their objections to funding you know, our people or our allies or potential 318 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:34.680 allies in other places. Should I even bother to mention the name of the 319 00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:41.519 country that Russia is still committing a constant what did they call limited military action, 320 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:48.599 you know, two years plus now, pounding the hell out of all 321 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:52.920 of the country, which is you know, the capital's Kiev, right, 322 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.240 Yeah, our friends there, well, you know, they want to separate 323 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:00.640 that. No more sending us money or anything else, even though we're not 324 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.680 directly sending money. We're sending resources over there, and there's a whole game 325 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:07.920 to that. But they want to increase the aid to Israel. We need 326 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:11.680 to back Israel. According to one wing of the party, whereas the other 327 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:18.279 wing the one party system here with the other wing showing some objections, and 328 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.759 some other people might be saying that there might be crimes against humanity going on, 329 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:25.599 etc. Etc. And all that, and maybe this isn't justified. 330 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:30.160 But then again, a country attacked its own nine to eleven, as they 331 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:36.279 said on October seven, Now are they justified all that? I don't want 332 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:41.640 to get into that discussion again because it's tiresome and nobody changes their opinion or 333 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.640 hears anything outside of their opinion about that. Let's forget about the opinion and 334 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:51.720 think about where it's going to go from here. The wider conflict. We're 335 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:56.960 hearing the Biden administration state repeatedly that this does need to be contained. And 336 00:25:56.000 --> 00:26:00.599 I'm willing to bet a lot of people on the planet are thinking, please, 337 00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:07.480 don't let this completely spread and metastasize into all regions and eventually engulf a 338 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:15.519 huge portion of the planet from this very small conflict that's going on and create 339 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:19.920 what the third World war? Is that what we're looking for, Well, 340 00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:23.599 some people want a civil war, some people want the third global conflict, 341 00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:27.119 et cetera, et cetera. It is what it is, like I said, 342 00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:30.039 it was what it was gonna be, what it's gonna be. But 343 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:36.519 anyway, I mean, is this, how are you taking this, Joe? 344 00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:41.000 What do you think? I think it's cause for concern for sure. 345 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:48.160 I mean, there are people dying, obviously in that region, and it 346 00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:53.799 seems like war always kills more civilians than it does soldiers. So everyone should 347 00:26:53.880 --> 00:27:00.480 be concerned with breakout of a global state of warfare, which we've not been 348 00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.880 far from anyway, and kind of see it as inevitable. I mean a 349 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:10.240 lot of people that think that I'm pessimistic and kind of am, but in 350 00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:17.839 a realistic way, you cannot let the smartest of your species split the atom 351 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:22.039 and give that power to these apes that are that we call leaders. You 352 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.319 can't. You can't do that, I mean and expect a good outcome. 353 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:34.359 You know what I'm waiting for is the revision the new argument about that Iran 354 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:38.279 nuclear deal. If you remember, everybody criticized Obama for, you know, 355 00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:41.920 releasing the sanctions and letting Iran take back some of its money that had been 356 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.920 frozen and taken from them in order to have an agreement where they didn't have 357 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:51.200 nukes. Well, I wonder how that would look if they had nukes Iran 358 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:55.480 at the moment, or perhaps they do. I mean, if I were 359 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:59.279 Iran, I'll tell you this defensively, I would have been building a nuclear 360 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.960 weapon no matter what I signed, because I happen to know that is one 361 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:11.440 way to prevent yourself, usually from being invaded. Usually reassured destruction is the 362 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.920 way of the way. It's been my entire life. Yeah, you know, 363 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.960 I grew up in the Reagan years when everybody was afraid of a nuclear 364 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.240 bomb all the time. And you know, I live pretty close to Oakridge, 365 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:27.119 Tennessee, and so you know, it was always just a source of 366 00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.480 anxiety for all the kids in elementary school back in the eighties, you know, 367 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.119 right. And I'm wondering how long it's going to take before people start 368 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:40.640 talking about the possibility of that sort of warfare being loosed from this conflict. 369 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.559 Anyway, here's what I'm gonna do, guys. 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As as 415 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:43.559 I said earlier, but Captain Tripps who stepped away, I didn't get your 416 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:45.319 take on this yet, and I do want to hear what you have to 417 00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:50.559 say, because look, this is geopolitical, this is religious, this is 418 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:55.920 a matter of cultural understanding as we watch this conflict, and you're saying you're 419 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.839 keeping track of it. So I'd like to get you know, just what 420 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:05.200 your ideas about this are. And also along with that, you know what 421 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.200 about the potential for what comes next? What are your thoughts on it? 422 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:12.720 And I mean, do you take it as far as Joe does with Hey, 423 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:15.279 look, you know what, you put crazy things in the hands of 424 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:20.519 crazy people who might actually be in positions of leadership. Stuff could get out 425 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.720 of hand real fast. And I wonder what anybody thinks about that nuclear deal 426 00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:30.200 with Iran now you know, etcetera, etcetera. So your take on this, 427 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.039 you know, trips wherever you want to go and disagree, agree whatever 428 00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.759 with the world. It's all you. So my take, and I'm gonna 429 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:43.920 I'm gonna refrain from the religious take on it because I kind of led onto 430 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.400 that. I led onto that on the break. I didn't realize we were 431 00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:51.200 off air. Well no, but for the record, but for the record, 432 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.799 you are a Christian guy, which I don't think Joe would call himself 433 00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:58.599 a Christian. I don't call myself a Christian, but you are a Christian. 434 00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:02.359 And generally most Christians in America, to my knowledge, are taught basically, 435 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:07.400 uh, you either support Israel or you're not in support of God and 436 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.800 has chosen people. So you're a bad guy if you don't support the nation 437 00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:15.480 state of Israel. That's what's being taught from the pulpits, because that's what's 438 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:20.360 being that comes out of and that is not that is not all of American 439 00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:23.280 Christianity. They are the loudest voices of it. And you said, you 440 00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:30.119 certainly see pockets of that in intersperse to to any of the American Christian denominations, 441 00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:37.039 but that that is typically more of an evangelical Pentecostal. A lot of 442 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:43.440 Baptists will take that kind of really strong. And as I said on the 443 00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:49.199 break in, in my reading of the scriptures and of the Gospels and of 444 00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.000 the Bible, and I've read the Old a Book multiple times, and I 445 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.159 you know, I'm a I'm a I'm a regular reader of the Bible. 446 00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:00.000 But to me, it's a it's a complete and little bastardization of the scriptures. 447 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:01.559 If you want to go. Just from a biblical point of view, 448 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.400 Christ to himself said even I don't know the time or the date what I 449 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:12.400 will return, right, So you know this all comes out of that crazy 450 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.599 his name just go off my tongue. In the in the nineteenth century, 451 00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:22.320 you know, you have dispensationalism, and you know here we are, so 452 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:28.039 yeah, from that perspective. And it's the funny thing about it is it's 453 00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:30.679 from just from a in my opinion, from a religious perspective. It's it's 454 00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:37.960 completely irrational on so many fronts because you have the you have the Christian Zionists 455 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:43.320 who pretend to support Israel, but if you actually look under their beliefs, 456 00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:50.239 they don't act. Yeah, they support Israel because they support what they claim 457 00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.440 to support is the rebuilding of the Temple. But what they leave out of 458 00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:59.679 that is, in the eyes of these Christian Zionists, if the Temple is 459 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:07.199 built and Christ returns unless in the in the in the evangelical and the Christian 460 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:12.559 zionists uh point of view, if the Jews don't convert to Christianity, these 461 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.239 evangelical Christians think they're all going to Hell anyone. So it's a it's a 462 00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:23.480 really twisted, very twisted interpretation of the scripture right and and as far as 463 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:30.639 the leadership in Israel right now, if if anyone truly believes that that Benjamin 464 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:35.960 Netanyahoo is a devout Jew, he's He's not, He's a secular Jew. 465 00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.760 Half of these people are fricking atheists anyway, when you actually listen to them 466 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:45.559 talk. They formed coalitions with some of the more radical religious shoes, but 467 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:52.320 even even most of the Orthodox Jews they don't support this crap. I said. 468 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.559 There was a really interesting discussion. And now the the tom Woods had 469 00:36:55.559 --> 00:37:00.800 on probably about three months ago, and I cannot remember Umber the man's name, 470 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:06.079 but he's an American American pastor, and he just tears this apart. 471 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:07.840 I'll actually, I'll find it. I have the clip. I'll send it 472 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:14.639 to you actually. But then there was another another podcast that was listening to 473 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.000 and I can't remember who it was, but it was an interview with with 474 00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:23.840 an Orthodox Jew who who from his perspective and what he teaches and what he 475 00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:31.920 learns in Orthodox Judaism is that when the when the Israelites were kind of swept 476 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:37.199 out and scattered to the wind, so to speak, after the destruction of 477 00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:42.119 the second destruction of the Temple. They're not supposed to form a state there. 478 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.920 According to the Orthodox Jews. They are they they can be there, 479 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:52.760 but to reform this this state as they as they they created it is really 480 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.679 against even the Orthodox Jews. What's funny is, yeah, I don't have 481 00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:02.000 to pull that. I can't remember the exact exactly. If you if you 482 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:05.039 find it, look, if you find a clip of it, by all 483 00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.079 means, send it to me. I'll include it with the show notes. 484 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:08.760 But let's take it out of that, Let's take it out of the arena 485 00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:15.000 arena of religiosity because to me, okay, that's what makes it so intense 486 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:20.719 to some people. But let's just go with the geopolitical right. And the 487 00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:23.960 majority of what I'm hearing from a lot of people is that, you know, 488 00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:27.480 you either have to stand on one of two sides. Either you're with 489 00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:32.840 America's ally Israel or you're one of these radical leftists who appreciates the terrorists. 490 00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:36.480 Uh, you know, and that's pretty much it, you know, and 491 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.880 and free Palestine and stand with Palestine, and you know what, push Israel 492 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.079 into the sea. All of that, Okay, from from the what is 493 00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.920 it from the river, to the to the ocean, whatever it is. 494 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.719 The point is you got to stand on one side or the other because it 495 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:58.559 is the heat of geopolitical reality. Right, So forget religiosity, forget about 496 00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.119 whose religion is anybody. By the way, not all Palestinians are Muslim, 497 00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:06.079 although they're categorized that way. And oh, by the way, since they 498 00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:09.079 haven't had an elections since two thousand and seven and the majority of people that 499 00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:14.920 live there are either underage or were not eligible to vote back, then you 500 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.960 got to imagine the majority of residents who were there at the beginning of this 501 00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:25.159 conflict didn't elect Hamas, even though Hamas was elected into office basically there in 502 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.199 Palestine. Right, Okay, but forget about all that. What about how 503 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:36.159 this could spread metastasize and you know, become the brush fire that lights up 504 00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.480 that whole region, which could draw in a whole lot of other people. 505 00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.239 This could become the thing that you know, something like that, right, 506 00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:51.800 I mean, it's you know, look, it's not Yugoslavia, but it's 507 00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:57.360 more intense in people's minds because you know, some people are spoiling for it, 508 00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.239 much like the whole Let's go for a civil war here in America. 509 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:02.559 They want it. I think they want it until they realize what the reality 510 00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.039 that is. But but but anyway, what about that end of it? 511 00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.519 What do you think of that? I mean, are we looking at something 512 00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:14.400 that's really going to kick off some major here, because I mean I did 513 00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.840 not expect Iron to send it, and I think, yeah, I think 514 00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:24.519 we could potentially run into something state not it's things are very unstable, and 515 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:30.159 I think, I think this is such a tinder box. It's I mean, 516 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.719 I think everything has been a tinder box. This is, you know, 517 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:39.280 just one more nail in the coffin, and you know you're gonna And 518 00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:43.559 I'm sure, Jimmy James, I'm sure if you're listening, you can call 519 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.159 me all the names you want. And you all know, I really have 520 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:52.960 no no affection for the current presidential administration. But if some of the stuff 521 00:40:53.000 --> 00:41:00.360 I hear coming out is accurate, I'm starting to think that at least somewhere 522 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.880 in this Biden administration, whether it's him or someone, there seemed to be 523 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:09.559 some cooler heads and some more rational voices that are being listened to. You 524 00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:15.559 know it it appears to me, you know, I think the whole I 525 00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:17.440 mean, first of all, let's just let's just cut through the crap. 526 00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:27.079 If high level American military officers were sitting in the the American embassy in Germany 527 00:41:28.159 --> 00:41:34.320 and fricking Spain launched a cruise missile and killed them, I think we would 528 00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:37.760 have responded far more irrationally than the Iranians did. So let's just call that 529 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.280 what it is. As far as I'm concerned, I don't agree with any 530 00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.400 of it. I'm not on anyone's side, but let's be honest, let's 531 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:51.159 call a state of space. They they fire a missile into a third country, 532 00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:55.239 into this country's consulate, killing high level military officials, you don't expect 533 00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:59.079 some type of response. So, you know, let's just let the whole 534 00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.360 unprovoked in the Oh, it's it's it's unprecedented, and blah blah blah. 535 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:07.320 Give me a frickin' break, because I think we we would have turned half 536 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.360 of Europe into ground glass if it was one of our if it was our 537 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:15.320 embassy. The response is kind of interesting, and it seems like, from 538 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.079 what I can tell, there's two schools of thought, one that it was, 539 00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:23.119 you know, a complete failure, but two the other the other one 540 00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:27.320 I guess there's three because I did read that piece that you were referring to 541 00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:30.840 earlier, as someone was saying, was this a scion, which you know 542 00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.079 what? Who knows? I'm at that, I'm at that point now, 543 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.639 was that I don't know? What was the what was the CIA director that 544 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:43.360 was on on video saying that we'll know our we'll know our programs successful. 545 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:50.480 The American public doesn't believe anything. Yeah, one of the Yeah, I 546 00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:55.960 think the I think the doomsday clock is itching ever so closely closer to midnight. 547 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:02.199 I don't think that the people that are in charge in Israel are are 548 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:07.519 saying I really don't. I don't know what they hope to accomplish, because 549 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:14.320 if you just look at their this six month long military campaign, if they're 550 00:43:14.360 --> 00:43:20.039 really worried about the survival of Israel, they're not doing themselves any favors. 551 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.800 I mean, they have. For the first time in my life, it 552 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:29.760 seems like the popular opinion in this country is, at the very least, 553 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.320 we're not supporting Israel. But your hearing are a lot more voices of people 554 00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:36.400 who are calling this out. I mean, even on some even in some 555 00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.199 of the more establishment media figures, I've heard made comments. Hell I got 556 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.440 I was listening to Yes. Every once in a while I check out agages 557 00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.079 to see what he's saying, and I was listening to he was calling it 558 00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:54.280 out. So I really think they overplayed their hand. And that's not to 559 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:59.719 say that I agree with the attack on October seventh, because I don't. 560 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.079 I mean, and there's too many innocent people are dying. I don't give 561 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:07.960 it. Rats, not what religion you profess or don't profess. Well, 562 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.960 that's the horror of it, right, And this is my objection to what's 563 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.880 going on in Ukraine, which is that, look, I guarantee there's plenty 564 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:17.639 of innocent people that are dying. Okay, well they go to get rid 565 00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.880 of the Nazis, and okay, look, even if you're correct about all 566 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:27.239 that, one guarantee that I have here is that in a military action where 567 00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.039 there is a lot of live fire, guess what, a whole lot of 568 00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:35.239 innocent people who were not in military uniforms, who didn't sign up, who 569 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.119 were not the intended targets, are going to die. If they don't die 570 00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:43.360 directly by being shot or bombed, they're going to die as a result of 571 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.280 the disruption of the infrastructure, etc. It's just the way it is, 572 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:52.599 and it's a guarantee when you engage in any conventional or even semi conventional warfare, 573 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:55.760 which by the way, the quote is from William Casey. I said, 574 00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.719 Kolby, but I met Casey and I went and it just to make 575 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.679 sure I had it straight, and it is. We'll know our disinformation program 576 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:08.079 is complete when everything the American public believes is false. And that was William 577 00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:13.320 Casey, and I think it was eighty one. He said, yeah, 578 00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.960 so that that's correct. I thought Kolby for a minute, but no, 579 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:17.760 Colby's the guy who drowned on it, fishing by himself, I think. 580 00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:23.079 Anyway, either way, because Colby said some stuff he shouldn't have too. 581 00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:28.719 But Casey is the one who said that. Anyway, you just being specific 582 00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:32.199 about it. Yeah, look, there's a lot to this. And by 583 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.400 the way, are we not familiar with the idea that Iran just like they 584 00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:44.440 were telling us after post October seven, they're the big nation state sponsoring terrorism, 585 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:49.320 right, we heard that throughout the entire w administration. They were part 586 00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.320 of the access of evil. They were exactly was going to be gone after 587 00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:57.159 they were part of the list that we never quite got to militarily, right, 588 00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.880 Oh, that's exactly. And you know, uh, I think there's 589 00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:06.559 a lot of that there. There was, there was a lot of happy 590 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:12.199 smiles on people like Lindsey Graham and Nikki Kayley and some of the other other 591 00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.840 some of the other creatures that have been been pulling for this for so long. 592 00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:23.159 Yeah, and and and in reference to your earlier comment, you're you're 593 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:30.920 absolutely right. You know, the general population of any country is not going 594 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:37.679 to benefit from a war. And yeah, I I I don't. I 595 00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:45.559 I hope, I truly hope that you know, if if what Iran, 596 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:49.920 if the statements that Iron has issued since all this was, we can consider 597 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:55.320 this done, leave it alone. I hope that there are people that, 598 00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.239 you know, I hope there are people within the American administration that are are 599 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.920 able to implant this. But you know, it doesn't really seem like the 600 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.840 people running Israel right now really care what the Americans have to say at this 601 00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:10.400 point. Well, I don't think they care what anybody has to say, 602 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:15.840 because despite the fact that the international community has complained about some of the stuff 603 00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.280 that I pointed out earlier. Uh, you know, certain people going to 604 00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.320 trying to get food, relief and things like that, getting a gunned down 605 00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:27.880 or bombed. That was pointed out, you know, by other countries in 606 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.920 other news speeds, not in America, but it has, it has been 607 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:35.960 shown to have happened. People complained about that in Israel basically said, look, 608 00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:37.880 it's war. It is what it is, and we're going to keep 609 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:42.280 doing what we're doing. You know, It's just been the way it is. 610 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:45.079 When they said, well, you're bombing too many hospitals, they say, 611 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:47.920 well, they're legitimate targets because they're housing terrorists. Uh. The tunnel 612 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.480 networks, we haven't heard about the tunnel networks anymore, have we? Uh, 613 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.559 In the past many months, that's all gone, it seems. Did 614 00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.199 they destroy them all? Do you think? Do you think they you know, 615 00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.960 like just I mean, I don't know if they're using that to attack 616 00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:06.400 me. I'm thinking what you do is, you, you know, throw 617 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.239 some dynamite down there and render them useless and that's the end of that. 618 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:14.639 Maybe they did that and therefore it's no longer a factor. I don't know. 619 00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.519 It's difficult. And that's the other thing here. As much as it 620 00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:22.320 seems like we're being told what's going on on the ground there, we're not 621 00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:29.119 because how much news is getting out of Palestine directly. You know, everybody 622 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:30.719 who reports, even if you can see these reporters, you know, I'm 623 00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:37.039 on the scene here, they're always in Israel. They're dependent upon IDEF spokespeople. 624 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:40.079 So you're literally getting only one side of it. I mean, I'm 625 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:45.599 not complaining. I'm just pointing out a fact here that you're only receiving in 626 00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:50.280 the media reports from the IDF side of things. I mean, you know, 627 00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:53.159 look, if you want to say that Hamas is their literal opponent or 628 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:58.920 Hamas spokespeople getting out there, I've seen statements from Hamas in print, but 629 00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:00.440 i haven't seen, you know, a person go out and go, Hi, 630 00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:05.360 I'm the guy from Hamas. Here's what's happening on our side. That 631 00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:08.079 didn't happen. So we're only getting one side of it, and it's being 632 00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:12.400 filtered, and yeah, good, well, I was gonna say, and 633 00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.440 then you have the you know, you have the other things that that are 634 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:21.239 painfully obvious that Hamas was a creation on some level and was funded on some 635 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.199 level by the government of Israel. I mean, that's that's no longer even 636 00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:30.519 even in an arguable fact. And you know, it seems like they know 637 00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:36.320 where Hamas leadership is. The leaders it seems like the the the actual leadership 638 00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.000 of Hamas is no is not in Israel, and it's not in in Gaza. 639 00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:43.599 I think it's an in cutter Is where most of these people are. 640 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:49.880 So we can launch we can launch missiles into Syria to blow up the Iranian 641 00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:54.480 consulate. But you mean to tell me that the vaunted MOSAD couldn't knock these 642 00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.480 people off, if that's what they were really trying to do, or the 643 00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:00.920 c I A. Well, that's the other weird thing, say, it's 644 00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:06.000 very weird. Well, that's the other weird thing. Because look, effectively, 645 00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.519 and I pointed this out a long time ago, when you know, 646 00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:12.880 Trump changed the way things are being done in Syria, and by the way, 647 00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:16.760 Biden has not adjusted it. Where we put the American military into a 648 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:22.320 position of just you're going to guard these oil fields over here, and you're 649 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.639 no longer going to be involved in Syria as far as you know, battling 650 00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:29.639 what's going on there. They stepped aside and let the Russians go in and 651 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:36.519 implement their military program and that's the way it's been until now when Israel turns 652 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:40.440 around and bombs that embassy, right, So it's a weird thing going on. 653 00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:45.000 I mean, it seems like they might have endangered some Russian troops unless 654 00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:46.199 they went and called Putin and said, hey, look, you know, 655 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:51.679 your guys might want to duck and cover because we're going to send in some 656 00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:57.840 munitions into an area where your military is active. Unless I'm mistaken and there's 657 00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.679 no activity going on in Syria with the Russians any longer, I haven't heard 658 00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:07.840 much. I mean, they're clearly still there. But I but I think 659 00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:13.639 what you said is absolutely true. There had to have been coordination or at 660 00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:20.079 least communication between Russia and the United States because that was that the risk of 661 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:25.599 the of US troops and Russian troops encountering each other was ridiculously high, and 662 00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:30.400 it never happened. I think there was what one or two maybe you know, 663 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:34.239 close encounters with aircraft or something like that, you know, where they 664 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.360 were, it was in range of each other. Well, and one airfield, 665 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.559 yeah, one airfield ended up put some pop marks on it that they 666 00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:44.000 showed on the news. And that was the big deal. Right before and 667 00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:47.440 like I said, Trump adjusted that and pulled US troops out of active engagements 668 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:51.719 in Syria. I mean, we weren't seeing a high body count come out 669 00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:55.320 of there, either on our side or the alleged enemy anyway, but there 670 00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:00.440 was constant skirmishes going on, and they seem to move them. And I 671 00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.159 remember that announcement. It was like, now they're just going to guard the 672 00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:07.960 oil fields over here in this one region of the country, and that's what 673 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.960 the US troops jobs are going to be. And then there hasn't been a 674 00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:15.360 peep since, right and the Russians were still there. And but that was 675 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:22.519 right after like we had accidentally allegedly, you know, bombed a Russian airfield 676 00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:25.360 where you know, a couple of explosives landed on the airstrip, and like 677 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:30.039 I said, they showed us, you know, a satellite photograph of this 678 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:34.880 airfield with some pock marks on it from the bombs, and that was it, 679 00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:37.960 you know. So all I'm saying is there's a lot to be considered, 680 00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:43.760 and Sentcom is definitely involved in all this. The Biden administration seems to 681 00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:45.719 be asking for Like you said, you don't know if it's Joe himself. 682 00:52:46.079 --> 00:52:51.760 I doubt it, but somebody was hired over there. It's saying, look, 683 00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.559 why don't you guys show some restraint. And thus far, despite the 684 00:52:54.639 --> 00:53:00.800 hullabaloo, it actually hasn't been a real extreme reaction, even the drawne strikes 685 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:04.719 that have gone. Now the Israelis have kind of rattled the saber a bit 686 00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:09.199 and said we are going to respond big to this, right, but the 687 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:14.159 obviously the Iranians have said, hey, we had to respond to you, 688 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:16.480 and here we go with the tit for tat, which eventually I think people 689 00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:20.519 will forget who fired the first shots in the first place if it goes far 690 00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.840 enough. Yes, And that's just the reality. This isn't about me rooting 691 00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:27.199 for one side or the other. I'm saying, this is the mess that 692 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:30.719 it becomes. You know, in a big, giant barroom brawl, a 693 00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:36.000 lot of people forget who threw the first punch because it just becomes chaos for 694 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:37.960 a bit, no matter how well you try to control it. And that's 695 00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:43.800 the way it happens in war as well. Right, people have a memory 696 00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:46.239 about the first shot fired or whatever, but it's usually not accurate. I 697 00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:52.000 mean, even in American history we called this thing the what was it the 698 00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.719 Boston massacre or whatever, Right, and one guy died you know who was 699 00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:02.039 shot during the Boston massacre a Christmas I think was killed? Right? Anyways? 700 00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:06.880 Yeah, so, and I'm just citing the weirdness of something that is 701 00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.519 later remembered as a massacre. Well, I guess if one person can be 702 00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:13.599 massacred, sure, But as far as I know, one guy got shot 703 00:54:13.679 --> 00:54:16.320 during a civil unrest and they call it a Boston matt Anyway, all I'm 704 00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:22.039 saying is that history records it one way, but it doesn't necessarily mean that 705 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:23.880 that is the way it got started. And this could be the start of 706 00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:29.199 something big, or it could be just a side issue and meant to just 707 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.599 prep us for the next big thing that happens. And in that way, 708 00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:37.199 is it a sy op? So Okay, lots of questions will remain as 709 00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.119 we'll try and follow this. But how well are we going to be able 710 00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.880 to follow it? Is my other question? And I want to ask Joe 711 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:45.639 this real fast and then probably close out with you trips. But Joe, 712 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:50.280 you're still with us, right, Joe? Have we put you to sleep? 713 00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:53.519 Yeah? So here's I'm so, here's the thing, Joe, Even 714 00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:58.159 if you wanted to get well read in on this right and you wanted to 715 00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:00.960 be completely informed minute by me, and you know you decided. I mean, 716 00:55:01.320 --> 00:55:04.800 you know you're not going to tune into one of the American news networks 717 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:07.760 for that. But let's just say you wanted to be well informed about what 718 00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:12.159 was going on here, keep your eye on it, because indeed, there 719 00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:15.400 are way too many people that are waiting for Jesus to return over there at 720 00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.639 the landing pad, or that think this is a holy war that is just 721 00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:23.920 and whatever. Regardless of other people's you know, ideas about how intense this 722 00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:28.280 needs to get to be, you might want to be informed about it. 723 00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:30.280 What are the chances that you could be even if you tried, Joe, 724 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:35.480 actually be informed about this. I mean, as I said, thus far 725 00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:37.079 we're only treated to what the IDF has to say. But what do you 726 00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:43.000 think about that? Could you could you even potentially get well read in and 727 00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.079 know what's actually happening minute by minute or day by day or week by week, 728 00:55:46.159 --> 00:55:51.519 even during what's happening in the Middle East At the moment, it seems 729 00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:55.960 to me that there's only one thing that you really need to watch to determine 730 00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:02.840 how serious the situation is, and that is is net and Yahoo in Israel 731 00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:09.400 or is he out of the country. He's in the country, probably not 732 00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:15.159 gonna be too bad. Yet if he's out of the country, probably gonna 733 00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:21.719 be pretty nasty. Fair enough, very good point. And of course some 734 00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.519 people would say, well, that's the point at which they bring in the 735 00:56:23.719 --> 00:56:29.199 uh. You know, they they will bring in UH, the clone, 736 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.079 the replacement, the body double UH, and the guy will still seem to 737 00:56:32.119 --> 00:56:35.239 be there, but the real Net and Yaho will be out of there. 738 00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:39.800 I'll leave that for someone else's show. But yeah, I was gonna say. 739 00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:45.679 The other very interesting thing that didn't happen now, whether this is whether 740 00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:55.239 it didn't happen because the the the Ron's retaliation occurred on a Saturday, there 741 00:56:55.400 --> 00:57:00.800 wasn't too too too much of a of a of a issue with the markets 742 00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:06.400 and with oil oil went up, but you would have thought, and I 743 00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:08.599 think someone I can't remember who who pointed this out. It wasn't me who 744 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:13.079 thought this, but I said, yeah, that actually makes sense that had 745 00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:16.320 this happened during the week when the stock when the stock market was open and 746 00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:22.480 all the trading markets were open, economically, you would have probably had an 747 00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:27.840 extremely big shake up, but it didn't happen. Now is that because it 748 00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:32.079 happened on a Saturday, there wasn't an immediate response by Israels by Monday or 749 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:36.360 Sunday night over here when the when the markets started to open, people were 750 00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:39.760 a little a little calmer. But but what what Joe said, I totally 751 00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:44.320 agree with. But that's the other thing I'm watching, and it's it's tough 752 00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:49.039 to sort out what we're seeing because how the price of gold we're hovering close 753 00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:53.800 to twenty five hundred dollars an ounce, right, you know what where is 754 00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:59.159 bb right now? I'm sorry to interrupt, but you know that that made 755 00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:06.760 me realize I don't know where he is. There's another point there was I 756 00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:13.280 heard there was one. There was one story on Saturday. I saw where 757 00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:16.800 someone was tracking on on one of the you know, one of its flight 758 00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:23.000 tracking websites, a I don't know if it was the equivalent of the US 759 00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:28.280 Air Force one, but supposedly it was a you know, a US I'm 760 00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:32.199 sorry and Israeli uh, Israeli government aircraft is supposedly hadn't it yahu? And 761 00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:39.480 which I thought was interesting, But then that never went anywhere it's you know, 762 00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:43.800 and you mentioned, you mentioned the other thing, and this, you 763 00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:46.079 know, to think that this is actually what's going on would would be quite 764 00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:51.440 a stretch. But given given a coordination we saw, not to bring up 765 00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:57.920 the scandemic thing, but given the coordination we saw with all the countries around 766 00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:01.039 the world, when everybody in locks with the you know, exception of Sweden 767 00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:07.199 and a couple of US states just went along, lockstock and barrel with it, 768 00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:10.280 it almost makes you wonder, could all could this could this really be 769 00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:15.079 a sigh of because let's be honest, I don't think the Israeli government really 770 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:20.000 gives two ships about about the Israelis, let alone the Palestinians, and quite 771 00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:22.880 frankly, I don't think the Iranian government gives two ships about the Iranian people. 772 00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:29.039 So for governments to use their populations as ponds in a larger game, 773 00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:31.000 to me, isn't out of the question. Now I don't have evidence for 774 00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:37.119 that, except you know, you know, I obviously I closely follow the 775 00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:40.960 the COVID story and all that it's been coming out with that, and you 776 00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:47.360 have more and more people speaking at now you just had that doctor from Japan 777 00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:53.280 the end of last week come out with a big thing about how the increased 778 00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:58.239 cancer rates and saying that this, you know, this m RNA stuff is 779 00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:01.400 not safe. It has to be pulled off the market. Then, you 780 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:05.000 know, even in this country, you know, like them or not. 781 01:00:05.159 --> 01:00:07.920 The only there's only been a couple of people in Congress that have been doing 782 01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:13.559 anything and that the two big ones were Rand Paul and Ron Johnson from Wisconsin. 783 01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.440 And Ran Paul seems to be uncovering quite a bit of interesting stuff. 784 01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:23.599 So I don't know. I don't think that's what's going on. I don't 785 01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:29.280 think this is some huge, large sye off, but I can't completely rule 786 01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:31.199 it out at this point either. Well there you have it, and look, 787 01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:37.440 yeah, you can look to the even the British National Health people starting 788 01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:44.159 to ask questions. It's getting weird out there regarding the aftermath of the great 789 01:00:44.320 --> 01:00:47.039 vaccination right of the nation. I think there's a lot of a lot of 790 01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:51.599 buyers remorse here on all levels. It seems to be some buyers remorse. 791 01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:52.840 But here's the key, and you mentioned it, and I'm going to tell 792 01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:57.280 you this. You know that all hell is about to break loose in the 793 01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:01.440 Middle East. You know how You know it for a certainty is when your 794 01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:07.360 gas price jumps an unreasonable level overnight, and when it does that for a 795 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:12.599 solid week and it seems like nothing big is happening in the news, it's 796 01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:15.400 about to And you brought it up, and I agree with you, and 797 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:19.239 that's the truth of it. 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