WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:25.039 day. Now here's Nick coffee. All right, let's get it started, 3 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:29.719 ladies and gentlemen, our number three and that you know, we're getting our 4 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:32.200 number three starter. We've been We've been doing this for the last couple of 5 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:34.600 hours. And uh, if you've missed, if you weren't with us, 6 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:37.600 you really missed out. But that's okay, better late than never. And 7 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:40.960 uh, we got a lot more to get into, so make yourself at 8 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:44.200 home. Coffee and Company. Feel by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety 9 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:48.920 coming to you live from our wonderful four Street Live studios here in downtown Louisville. 10 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.000 It's nice to know that Buck Sexton was on his best behavior here in 11 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:54.960 the studio on Friday. John, Oh, he wasn't trash and studio over 12 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:57.600 there. He left it like you found it, and that's what I wanted. 13 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:00.280 I think he knew that the one mistake, one potential, you know, 14 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.880 not career ending mistake, but a bad move for his career, would 15 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:06.920 be on my bad side. Right. I heard one of our employees came 16 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:08.480 in and took a picture with him. While he was potentially on the air. 17 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:11.599 I don't know if it was during a break, but he just kind 18 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:15.480 of barged in. I won't say who it was, but I know who 19 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:18.159 it was. You know who it was. Oh, I guarantee you I 20 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:25.760 know who it was. I'm looking at John and mouthing the name man, 21 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:30.519 right, dude, a woman. It's a man, it is not. 22 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:34.879 Okay. Wow, that's an upset for me because I thought for sure it 23 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.000 would have been it would have been, you know, the person deep cut, 24 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.040 the person that you know I'm referring to. Yeah, I know you're 25 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:44.079 talking about, but it's kind of a deep cut on our staff. Oh 26 00:01:44.120 --> 00:01:52.840 man, is it? Huh? I think I know who it is, 27 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:56.480 but I'll tell you during the break. Okay. Anyways, speaking of our 28 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.239 staff here, I don't know how I had mentioned this at the beginning of 29 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:00.560 the show, because as soon as I was getting ready to go live on 30 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:04.760 the air at three o'clock, one of our colleagues here, Daniel Blas, 31 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:08.840 stopped in to show me his winning ticket for Saturday. Did you see what 32 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:13.240 he did? I saw, but I don't know how he had. He 33 00:02:13.280 --> 00:02:16.639 did a one dollar pick five where he picked he picked all of them and 34 00:02:16.680 --> 00:02:20.960 they I mean he won based off like was just random. Yeah, he's 35 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:24.039 randomly picked him wow, and it came in. So he had a one 36 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:28.280 dollar bet that paid him. I think it was like twenty seven hundred dollars. 37 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:32.840 So shout out to Daniel, I mean, and Daniel is is he's 38 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:36.479 kind of got. I don't know if he learned it from Will Clark because 39 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:38.879 they worked together here for a little while. Will Clark of course has left 40 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:44.319 us. He's now working for ul we miss we miss Sasquatch. But Daniel 41 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:47.360 is now become the Will for us at Derby. You know, you know, 42 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:52.639 we have a pretty pretty full crew usually that is there at Churchill Downs 43 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:57.680 during Derby working in some capacity and Daniel's one of our engineers here and he 44 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:01.319 just goes wherever he wants and waits for somebody to tell him like he can't 45 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:05.560 go there. Will Clark did that, Will Will, I mean Will did 46 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.400 that with anything right, Like he'll show up anywhere with a microphone and get 47 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:12.719 the story because you know, that's just he was tenacious as a as a 48 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:15.680 reporter. Daniel's not a reporter, but like you know, he's got a 49 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:17.919 credential, like all of us, and he'll just go anywhere and show me 50 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:23.080 pictures of him finding a spakeasi that is at Churchill Downs, or him ending 51 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:28.479 up on him ending up in the millionaire's row. This year, for some 52 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:32.120 reason, we did not get credential access to one area, and that's the 53 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.479 red carpet. Daniel got in the red carpet like my man's. I mean, 54 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:42.759 that's the best advice you can give anyone, as far as just act 55 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.520 like you're supposed to be somewhere, and more often than not, nobody's gonna 56 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:46.919 question you because they're not thinking about you. They're not, you know, 57 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:51.039 wondering who the heck this person is. But if you look uncomfortable, kind 58 00:03:51.039 --> 00:03:53.199 of look around like you're not supposed to be there, that's the red flag. 59 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:54.400 Then they feel like they got to come check you. I'm not good 60 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:58.400 at it, like even you know, even when I first would get credential 61 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:02.199 to like sporting events and whatnot, like basketball, football. UFL is different 62 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.000 because it's it was more routine. I would be at every game it, 63 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:08.280 you know, years ago before I did postgame, I would be at every 64 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:10.919 single game from start to finish. H Now I can't do that because the 65 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:13.639 post came. But when I would go on the road to a game with 66 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:16.120 a credential, it's new to me, and I just have this look on 67 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:18.560 my face like I'm not supposed to be there, and you know, they 68 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.040 check for my credential and I don't have like the lanyard they give me, 69 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:24.639 just the one, the single game paper one, you know. Yeah, 70 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:26.519 so like I got to pull it out of my back pocket. Like I 71 00:04:26.519 --> 00:04:29.399 get checked everywhere I go. But it's probably not because you know, they 72 00:04:29.680 --> 00:04:30.399 they just look at me and like, yeah, this guy knows he's not 73 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:32.839 supposed to be here. Let's get rid of him. But Daniel, our 74 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:36.800 engineer, his I mean he was getting in everywhere Churchill downs. I mean 75 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:40.519 to have to tag along with him. Now you wired up in the kitchen 76 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.279 of a bear nose. I believe one time he did, that's right, 77 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:48.600 Oh yeah, he uh he ran He ran ethernet cable like I mean, 78 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:53.040 he was up there like Spider Man at this bear nose and like on the 79 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.160 root, you know, in the roof. You know what I'm saying, 80 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:59.160 Like, you know, pulling panels up and running wire. I mean he's 81 00:04:59.639 --> 00:05:02.000 I mean, he's a hard worker. So he had I mean, how 82 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.439 about that a one dollar wager. He didn't even know what he picked, 83 00:05:05.480 --> 00:05:11.199 He just picked. He deserves it and in nearly three grand in a payout, 84 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.959 So shout out to him. All right, let's let's let's dive in, 85 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:15.279 shall we again? I've said this each of the last two hours. 86 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:18.480 Why I'd say once more, this is a day that should be a local 87 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:23.279 holiday. I know we get Sunday to recover from the Derby, but there's 88 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:26.879 so much that goes into Derby week. It's a party around here and a 89 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:30.120 lot of us do a lot of that partying. And I just think the 90 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.680 Monday off, that extra day to really rest and reset, could go a 91 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:36.560 long way. But you know, hadn't happened yet, so probably isn't going 92 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:39.680 to happen. And maybe if they were going to do it, they could 93 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:42.360 have said, you know, Derby one fifty, this is when we're going 94 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:46.120 to make it a thing. We're going to encourage all businesses to let their 95 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.000 employees have the day off after, you know, the Monday after Derby. 96 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:54.120 But again, we'll probably never do it. But hopefully everybody had themselves a 97 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:57.759 good Derby weekend. The race couldn't have been better. If you take me 98 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:01.519 obviously, if you had losers you bet on, or maybe you know your 99 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:08.800 horse was the one that came in just behind the winner there, I mean 100 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:15.399 Mysstic Dan narrowly getting the victory with Sierra Leone and Forever Young just right there. 101 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:17.079 It would suck if you had, like a big wager that would have 102 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.240 paid you a lot of money if it would have been one of those two 103 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:23.639 because you were that close. But if you can, and sometimes it's hard 104 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:26.439 for people because they just they bet that bet and that's what they love about 105 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:30.199 horse racing, like bettan on the ponies. Well, if you can look 106 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.199 at it and view it for just the race itself and take away any wager 107 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.519 you had, like it could not have been any better. And what's great 108 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:42.720 is that it was the most watched Derby since nineteen eighty nine. I was 109 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.759 just a year old that was that. In fact, I guess that was 110 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:48.759 my first Derby. I mean I don't remember it. I was again, 111 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.920 you know, a baby, but yeah, it's the most watched Derby since 112 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:59.600 nineteen eighty nine and twenty point one million people watched. And obviously you don't 113 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.720 know the is gonna finish in that electrifying fashion. But there were that many 114 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:05.800 people tuned in, and I bet a lot of people. I mean, 115 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.720 if you're in certain states, you can't bet on horse racing, you don't 116 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:13.160 have the ability to. I remember one of the legs of the Triple Crown. 117 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:17.000 I was in maybe Georgia years ago, and I was surprised I couldn't 118 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.399 get out the Twins Spuyers app in bet because you know, you're not allowed 119 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:21.519 to do that there. So there are a lot of people who tune in 120 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:24.839 and watch but haven't bet, And if they just tune in to hope to 121 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:29.319 see an exciting race, they got exactly that. So Derby one fifty, 122 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:32.279 by all accounts, seem like a big, big success for everybody involved in 123 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:38.000 big shout out to Churchill Downs. You know, I know things are very 124 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:42.879 expensive over there, and certain folks don't like that, and I get it, 125 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:47.360 but you know, they still, I think, do a phenomenal job 126 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:51.680 at putting on the biggest event that is offered in this state every year, 127 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:55.959 and it brings in people from across the planet. And I'm sure there's some 128 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:59.160 that have made the trip to a Derby and decided they got it off the 129 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:01.720 bucket. List they want to come back, but I can tell you there 130 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.639 are many thousands of people actually that come every year from across the planet because 131 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:11.480 they love everything about being at Churchill Downs, not just for the Derby, 132 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:15.839 but maybe Derby week. Maybe they're there Thursday through Saturday. And I just 133 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:18.040 feel like that's cool. Again, as somebody who would never claimed to be 134 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.319 a horse racing fan, I'm not, but you know, this is our 135 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:24.160 event. I'd say most cities are size and certainly some that are much larger 136 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.360 than us, they have, you know, their time to shine, their 137 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.879 event, their moment where it's a big deal and there's a lot of eyeballs 138 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.919 on said city because this big prestigious event. Well, that's clearly the Derby 139 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:39.639 for us, and I feel like we execute and I mean I say we 140 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:41.039 like I had any roll in it. I had no, I mean I 141 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:45.360 had nothing to do with it. But just feels like it was a good 142 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:46.559 weekend for the for the for the city, no doubt about it. All. 143 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.200 Right, let's uh, let's catch you guys up if you are just 144 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:52.679 now joining us. We did talk a little bit about some early point spreads 145 00:08:52.679 --> 00:09:00.799 that are out there with with DraftKings for college football. Louisville once again is 146 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.639 favored in this Governor's Cup game, which my first and my first reaction is, 147 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:09.159 it is really stupid to have a spread for a game that happens to 148 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:11.879 be the twelfth game of the regular season and it's you know, it's May 149 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:16.120 sixth. It's just impossible to know what the spread will be because you have 150 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:18.960 no clue how good any of these teams are going to be at that point. 151 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:20.559 But hey, at least gives us something to talk about. And despite 152 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:24.799 the game being in Lexington, Louisville is favored, and I don't know nationally, 153 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:30.120 I would say just because like Brom is a coach that now, of 154 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:33.759 course Kentucky fans can claim in Brom's first year, he won ten games and 155 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:37.639 Louisville fans were on top of the world and Kentucky still got them. And 156 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:41.480 if I was you meeting a Kentucky fan, I'd do the same thing, 157 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:46.960 like, that's the ultimate bragging rights game for you, and it's the fifth 158 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:48.279 one you've had in a row. Now, Jeff Brom has nothing to do 159 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.440 with the other four that you won. But still, like I get it, 160 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.200 But I think objectively, like national folks would still look at Jeff Brom 161 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:58.519 as a guy that's going to continue to keep Louisville as a you know, 162 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:01.960 eight, nine, maybe ten win caliber team every now and then. And 163 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:05.799 with Kentucky, you know, they're a solid team under Mark Stoops. And 164 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:11.879 there's no way to say it without it being a backhanded compliment. But I 165 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:16.039 just think, I mean, Mark Stoops is viewed. But I think a 166 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:22.879 lot of college football talking heads, right analysts, writers, Capital Jays, 167 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:30.240 those that cover the sport have a big following and their opinion matters. And 168 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:33.080 what I mean by that is, you know, people will say, what 169 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.879 the hell is this guy? Know, if they're saying something that's not favorable 170 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.799 of their team, But if you're reacting to their opinion, and a lot 171 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:41.919 of fan bases are, that means that, you know, it gets your 172 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:45.480 attention because you feel as if their opinion, you know, holds weight. 173 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:50.200 Those people think Mark Stoops is a really good coach, but they don't They 174 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:52.360 can't point anything that he's done as far as, like, you know, 175 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:58.519 some major accomplishment. What gets Mark Stoops in those you know, top twenty 176 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:01.960 five rankings they put together in the offseason best college football coaches is the fact 177 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:07.960 that he has given Kentucky some sustained success in football, which honestly is something 178 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:09.799 that nobody ever thought would happen, right, I mean, they won ten 179 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.039 games twice. They were nine wins in the regular season, but their bowl 180 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:18.080 wins got them ten wins. And if you'd told me twenty years ago Kentucky 181 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:20.159 FOOTBA would ever win ten games, I would have thought that Nick Saban was 182 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:24.600 their coach because that would never happen. And he did that. So now 183 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:26.639 you know they're not the bottom of the SEC, but you know they're still 184 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:31.559 like, for example, their win total this year six and a half, 185 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.759 and yes, a lot of that is to do with the fact they play 186 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:39.840 in a good league. So maybe I shouldn't be surprised that the early spread 187 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.480 in this one has Louisville as a slight favor, because I still think Louisville 188 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.919 is viewed like Louisville got the brand bump with Jeff Brom being their coach that 189 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.720 they did not get with Scott Saderfield. Now, none of that means anything 190 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:54.440 when it comes down to like actual results. Although clearly Brom gave you a 191 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.919 ten win season in his first year here in Saderfield you know, got to 192 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:05.159 seven what twice? Maybe once actually, So I mean, you know, 193 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.240 with all that said, like, I still think Louisville's going to get a 194 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:13.039 different look with Brahm here than they did previously. I think that goes without 195 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:20.200 saying. But point spreads for week twelve games is at this point in May 196 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:22.399 is just it's kind of insane, but you know, it's at least at 197 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:28.080 least it's something to reference as far as how someone views these two teams this 198 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.000 year. Some other spreads, Louisville is a ten point dog against Notre Dame 199 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.519 and a nine and a half point dog against Clemson. Those were the only 200 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:37.080 three games that there were already some spreads for. But real quickly, I 201 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:41.639 can give you the win totals here for the local teams. According to to 202 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:48.799 draft Kings, Louisville's win total is eight and a half. I could see 203 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:52.840 that. I would I probably would have guessed eight, but eight and a 204 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:58.759 half, you know, I'd say that's fair Kentucky. Any guests, John, 205 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:01.519 I'm going to say eight and a half, six and a half. 206 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:05.240 Okay, that's the line, And it says here you know the under, 207 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:09.080 So if you bet one hundred and thirty five to Yeah, it says here 208 00:13:09.080 --> 00:13:11.639 the unders bet one hundred thirty five dollars to one hundred hundred, while the 209 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:16.720 over is to bet one hundred to win one fifteen. Uh, Indiana, 210 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.200 any guests five and a half five. I'm hammering that. Oh yeah, 211 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.879 we're hammering that. I mean, I know I'm a homer, but come 212 00:13:22.879 --> 00:13:28.039 on, we're getting sigged up in Bloomington. Yeah, I mean, I 213 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.279 happened to think that the guy you had coaching prior to uh, what's his 214 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:35.840 name, Tom Allen already see Signette, he's already got me forgetting about Tom 215 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:39.639 Allen. But that the guy in Home Improvement Tim, Yeah, like that's 216 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.960 you the same, you know, Signetti. I just think he's going to 217 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.159 be a much better coach than Tom Allen. And I know that hurts to 218 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:48.799 hear because I know you were a big fan of Tom Allen. He was 219 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.360 believe it up, you know, just like Tom Crean, like it ran 220 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:54.639 its course, and there was obviously a way, a way different course. 221 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:56.320 He didn't win any big ten titles. Yeah, Tom Crean did, but 222 00:13:56.399 --> 00:14:01.759 like there was you know, there was mixed feelings with losing Tom Allen because 223 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:05.759 he did take Indiana to places they hadn't been during a season that was kind 224 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.120 of seen as a fluke. It is it fair to say, and I 225 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:13.720 promise we'll move on from indian A football in just a second, But isn't 226 00:14:13.720 --> 00:14:18.240 it fair to say that at the time that he completely fell off the cliff 227 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:22.519 was actually the time where it felt as if, if anything, you just 228 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:26.000 weren't going to suck again, right like you thought maybe he could get I 229 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.679 feel like at the time they had that big run during the COVID year, 230 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:33.639 and then the next year they had some expectation. I think, you know, 231 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:35.399 you felt like your floor had been roused. Oh absolutely, and then 232 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:39.879 it actually turned out to where it was you all were terrible, right, 233 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:41.080 Like wins and loss wise, it was too in ten Yeah, I mean 234 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:46.159 like it went was bad. Yeah, it was in not to discredit that 235 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.120 year because hey, it happened, but ever always for just the year before, 236 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:52.200 they were eight and four the previous season, now there was two years 237 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.240 of data to kind of think that things were going somewhere. They went eight 238 00:14:56.279 --> 00:14:58.399 and four in the regular season. Yeah, I did not know that. 239 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.360 So that gives it more of a I mean, that gives it more of 240 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:05.000 like a life right to where it wasn't just one season. Yeah, it 241 00:15:05.039 --> 00:15:11.320 was getting to a bowl game, then getting to eight, then twenty twenty, 242 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.799 that weird year where like, you know, god, that's such a 243 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:16.679 blur that whole season. But and then it fell off a cliff and now 244 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:22.559 they've got signetti, all right. Uh So we still have a lot of 245 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:26.720 folks asking about the transfer portal, and you know, I do want to 246 00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:31.279 clarify nobody, like people are aware I'm not hearing breaking news about guys in 247 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.039 the portal or anything like that, But there are somebople that can't keep up 248 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.720 with it as much as others because you know, they're busy throughout the day. 249 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.840 And I think it's been a very light news weekend really, and that 250 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:43.000 carried over into Monday because I think right now we're just waiting to hear, 251 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:48.480 waiting to figure out what happens with Great Osibor. He is obviously one of 252 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:52.000 the best players in the portal right now. I mean, he's clearly one 253 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.879 of the best available. But even when you consider everybody that's already made a 254 00:15:54.919 --> 00:15:58.200 decision, he is, he's up there. I mean, depending on where 255 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.399 you look, some of him as a top five some have him as top 256 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:04.919 ten player. He visited Louisville and I heard nothing about the visit. Didn't 257 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:07.600 hear anything bad, did anything good, Just didn't hear anything. And it 258 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.679 sounds like that's just how it's going to be with him, right he went 259 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:14.600 to Texas Tech. I don't know if that visit is ending today or tomorrow, 260 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:18.159 but doesn't appear as if there's a whole lot coming out of that visit 261 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:21.399 either. Now he's gonna go visit Danny Sprinkle, his coach who just left 262 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:26.399 Utah State to go to Washington, and if he ends up committing while at 263 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:29.960 Washington, I'm gonna, I guess just be a sore loser here and claim 264 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.039 this guy was a fraud and he was never going to transfer anywhere other than 265 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:37.679 Washington. But that'll just that's just probably me being bitter. But it did 266 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.960 it. You know, it just kind of looked like that in a way 267 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.720 that that's gonna be your last visit and these other visits between you know, 268 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.159 Louisville, Kentucky and Texas Tech are just a way for Danny Sprinkle too. 269 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:52.840 I guess let his nil people know, Hey, if you want me to 270 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.559 bring my best player from Utah State with me. You're gonna need to cut 271 00:16:56.559 --> 00:16:59.759 the check because Kentucky, Louisville, and Texas Tech they all want him. 272 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.680 So we'll see. I mean, I know Louisville, and I say Louisville, 273 00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:07.640 I mean whoever we are I guess supposed to clarify as paying right because 274 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:11.640 nil, it's not supposed to be the school and it's not supposed to be 275 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:14.880 pay for play, but we all know that it is. But Louiell is 276 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:19.160 prepared to make him, you know, a very very good offer when it 277 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:22.720 comes to nil that would probably top any offer that he has elsewhere, not 278 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:26.799 to say others wouldn't be able to match it. But I don't believe that 279 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:30.079 this will be a all right, well you could have had him, but 280 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.000 you wouldn't pay now. Again, if he starts wanting two to three million, 281 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:36.559 which is not I mean, that's just not realistic, then maybe it'd 282 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:40.720 be a different situation. But that's why I just am kind of thinking that 283 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:44.519 in the end, like if they don't get him and he ends up playing 284 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:47.000 for Danny Sprinkle, Like how I mean, how could I be mad at 285 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:51.000 Pat Kelsey Because I would I would believe that this kid was always going to 286 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:52.240 go play for his coach. He just wanted to go through the process. 287 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:56.559 And in a way, it's really not there's nothing wrong with that, right, 288 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:59.400 Like, you got to look out for yourself. Nobody's going to look 289 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:04.480 out for you more than you, and you have to do things to fluctuate 290 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:08.079 your value. I mean, there are dudes who hit the portal that know 291 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:11.240 they're not leaving, but they want it to be clear that if they did, 292 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:15.359 there'd be a lot of options and there'd be money. So if you 293 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:18.799 want me to stay, then then you know you now know what I'm worth 294 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.519 because everybody else is willing to pay me this, so now you pay it. 295 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:23.000 So like that's just where we are now, right The players have all 296 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:26.039 the power, and for guys like Osibor, who knows, I don't know 297 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:29.960 what his pro potential is, but he's he's not a guy that I think 298 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:32.279 would really fit with the way the NBA's played right now. I mean, 299 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:33.799 he's not viewed to be a I mean he's not even going through the draft 300 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:38.359 process. So you know, he's a perfect example of somebody that is trying 301 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:42.079 to make as much money as they can because there's a chance that maybe this 302 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:45.039 will be the most money he ever makes playing as a basketball player, because 303 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:49.160 as a pro he'll be playing you know, in you know, in Europe, 304 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:51.960 and you can make a lot of money in Europe, I suppose. 305 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.400 But these guys, dudes who have proven who they are as college players, 306 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:00.480 like a Hunter Dickinson like, and it's a little different because he was an 307 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.279 National Player of the Year caliber guy at Michigan before he ended up at Kansas. 308 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:07.480 But like, that is the top tier of the market, and those 309 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:11.400 guys can make a lot of money, way more than most freshmen would make. 310 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:17.119 And again it's money that if they just end up playing I mean eight 311 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.200 years in the G League, which I don't know why you would do that. 312 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:23.440 You probably then move on to professional leagues and other countries to make more 313 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:26.440 money. But I mean, if you just played in the G League and 314 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:30.079 grinded it out on a G League contract, you can make more money in 315 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:34.160 a year playing for a top program with nil than you'd make in six years 316 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:40.680 combined in the G League. I'm not exaggerating. So we wait, and 317 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:45.319 we wait impatiently. But I mean it's just because we're I can't speak for 318 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:51.839 anybody but me, but I can sense the interest level that fans have for 319 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:55.640 Louisville basketball right now. It's new, it's Pat Kelsey. He's done a 320 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:57.799 great job of getting us excited. But you know, you have a brand 321 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:03.799 new team and and you've already got some really good pieces. But Osimor would 322 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:07.599 be a really really good I mean probably be I mean as far as just 323 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:11.119 the portal ranking and all that, he'd be the top rank guy you have. 324 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:12.160 I would say, I don't. I mean, I guess it wouldn't 325 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.559 even be close, honestly, depending on where Terrence Edwards Junior was ranked, 326 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:18.799 which, by the way, we'll talk about that because I think John, 327 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:23.160 you and I have collectively determined who we view as being the leader the authority 328 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:27.400 on ranking transfer portal classes. Right absolutely, so we'll talk about that. 329 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:32.160 On the other side end, talk a little more about this Tom Brady roast 330 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:36.920 on Netflix. Because I cannot wait to get home, get the kids to 331 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:37.960 bed. I mean, I'm not gonna put them to bed at six o'clock, 332 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:41.799 but you know, once the kids are in bed and my wife and 333 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:44.559 I can you know, relax and watch some TV. I'm gonna watch the 334 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:48.160 rest of this Netflix roast of Tom Brady because I watched about thirty forty minutes 335 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:53.200 of it and it was hilarious. But everybody's told me since the show started 336 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.480 on the text line like, oh, stick around and watch the whole thing 337 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.359 like it gets uncomfortable, which at times that's funny. But I don't think 338 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:04.160 I've never watched a roast until this, and it's something. So again, 339 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:07.519 stick with us. We got about thirty minutes left right here on Sports Talk 340 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.839 seven ninety. That's right, Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton Sierra on Sports 341 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:17.000 Talk seven ninety, rolling along on a Monday. Appreciate you hanging out with 342 00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:22.440 us. Let's see here the transfer portal rankings that you find if you just 343 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:25.759 go to Google. Actually, let's see who comes in first here. Let's 344 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:33.640 see who's SEO search engine optimization is the strongest basketball? Should I do? 345 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:41.319 College basketball? College basketball team transfer portal rankings, That's what we're looking for, 346 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:45.960 right, yes, enter first one that comes up is twenty four seven 347 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:51.000 sports, so this is the best available players. But the team rankings are 348 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:56.759 here. So we've got twenty four to seven on three CBS, the athletic 349 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.759 and then ESPN has one. But I'm not sure if theirs are for let's 350 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:07.079 see, he's behind a paywall, I believe. Yeah. And no offense 351 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:11.319 to Jeff Borzello. I know him from many, many many years ago, 352 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:17.640 and he does a good job. But the Four Letter Network for having the 353 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:21.640 I mean, they own everything worth owning in college basketball, I'm sorry. 354 00:22:21.640 --> 00:22:26.160 In college athletics outside of the NAA Tournament. I know there's other leagues that 355 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:27.839 have affiliation with other networks, but I mean, like they, you know, 356 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:33.680 they they have such a presence in how we consume a lot of college 357 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:40.000 athletics, but they give such little effort to covering recruiting. Like twenty four 358 00:22:40.039 --> 00:22:45.720 to seven and on three list ESPN as one of their competitors, right because 359 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:49.920 they give you the composite rankings. They'll tell you what they think, meaning 360 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:55.480 like rivals or on three has this guy as a four star. But you 361 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:59.880 know, when we factor in the other services out there, the ESPNS, 362 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:03.480 the you know, twenty four seven, at that point, you know it 363 00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:07.599 averages out to be this. I wouldn't include ESPN. They don't. They're 364 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.799 not a competitor to you. They don't. I mean, heck, if 365 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:15.759 you go to like a recruiting page for a player, like their ESPN recruiting 366 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:18.960 profile, not their player page when they're college basketball players. And I'm gonna 367 00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:25.079 nerd out a little bit on tech stuff with you guys. But when you 368 00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:27.160 look at it on your phone, it's not even responsive. And what I 369 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:32.039 mean by that is it's like it's like you're looking at a desk top web 370 00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:33.880 page, you know how, on your phone. Now, when you go 371 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.359 to a website, it's clearly compressed to fit on your screen. John Theirs 372 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:41.039 doesn't do that, like they That's how little they've ever cared to cover, 373 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:47.279 Like, I mean, it's crazy. But anyways, will not include ESPN, 374 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:52.279 but the one that is the ultimate authority on ranking transfer portal classes in 375 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:55.759 college basketball, it's I don't know why it's not there, but it's actually 376 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:00.920 a gentleman who goes by the name of Evan Mia cow that is, that's 377 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.599 that's his last name. But his website uh is, let's see here, 378 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:10.759 Uh it is Evanmedia dot com, Evanmia dot com, Evan m i y 379 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.319 a dot com. He is. I mean, this is a guy who 380 00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:22.559 is a college basketball analytics scientist. He has a PhD uh in in statistician 381 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.039 data science. I mean this guy's been. He's worked for ESPN, CBS, 382 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.400 the Athletic and he has his own analytics for basketball that are followed by 383 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:36.160 a lot of college basketball nerds like myself and coaches like He's not Ken Palm, 384 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:40.599 but he's something similar to where his analytics are value to a level where 385 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:44.880 I'm pretty sure he makes a living selling his his you know, premium stuff 386 00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:49.160 to coaches who you know now understand analytics are very important. So, uh, 387 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:55.079 he has uh the top ten rankings. He actually has more than just 388 00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:59.519 the top ten, but the top teams currently in the overall transfer portal activity. 389 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.839 This and by the way, I'm clearly having fun with it, acting 390 00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:03.839 as if this guy has it right, because I'm about to tell you that 391 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:07.119 he thinks Louisville's class is really really good. But he has Indiana at number 392 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.839 one, Louisville number two, Missouri number three, Michigan number four, Kentucky 393 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:17.640 number five. So, in all seriousness, let's say he didn't have Louisville 394 00:25:17.680 --> 00:25:21.359 even ranked in his top ten, you know, with his analytics, I 395 00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:23.039 would still tell you the way he's doing it is how it should be done, 396 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:27.279 and that is looking at what you lost in the portal and what you 397 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:33.559 gain. I think that's the simplest and most effective way to view how a 398 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:40.680 team has done in the portal, because if you lose eighteen players and all 399 00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:45.720 of them are three stars and guys who were leaving because they could not play 400 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:51.079 at that level, but then you add five guys who are really good players 401 00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:56.720 that everybody wanted that are four or five stars in the portal, you should 402 00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.000 not be counted. It shouldn't count against you that you lost a bunch of 403 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.000 players that, like, in the end, now that they've played, they've 404 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.400 been in part of college basketball or football for that long, like, they're 405 00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:07.880 not like they're probably not ranked as high as they were coming out of high 406 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.920 school. So sometimes just the volume right of how many, Like for example, 407 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:17.240 if you go look at twenty four to seven sports recruiting rankings, more 408 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.599 often than not, if you just have a bunch of players, let's say 409 00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:25.359 you got eighteen commits and their average amount of commits for everybody else in football 410 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:29.480 is like nine, you're going to be really highly ranked just because of how 411 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:33.000 many you have. So I think if you just evaluated, like you know, 412 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:34.519 basketball, it's easier to do because there's not as many players, but 413 00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.359 like last year in football, in fact, the last two years in football 414 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:41.240 for Jeff Brom, I mean, the first portal class he put together was 415 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.920 you know, he hadn't coached a game yet. But the reason I think 416 00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.960 it was on three had them ranked so highs because they did it that way. 417 00:26:48.079 --> 00:26:53.000 Right, they're looking at what you lost and what you added and brown 418 00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:56.359 the last two years, the guys they've lost, even some that we still 419 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.240 wish would have played here longer, right, Like I think losing Kevin Coleman 420 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.599 to Mississippi State, I think that guy's a good player. Even a Maury 421 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:07.960 Huggins Bruce who transferred to I believe South Carolina a good player. But the 422 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:11.440 guys that Brom brought in to replace those guys are are, you know, 423 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:17.839 ranked higher, So therefore you got better with that transaction. So I just 424 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:19.079 think that's how it should be done. And I would be saying that if 425 00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:25.079 even if that was a scenario, that meant Louisville wouldn't be ranked high. 426 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:30.279 But right now Louisville has lost They've got nine players in the portal that are 427 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:36.240 transfers in, so they've added nine players and they've got nine that have that 428 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:45.839 have left that have moved on. So three five stars currently and six four 429 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.920 stars, so that is how they're I don't know how they would be ten, 430 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:56.079 but it says yeah, so yeah, So let's see here. What 431 00:27:56.240 --> 00:27:57.039 are you helped me out here? John, You've got the brain. You 432 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.839 got the big brain here on the show. If it says transfers in and 433 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.160 transfers out, transfers in would mean guys that are transferring to play for you. 434 00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:07.119 Transfers out would mean guys that are leaving. Yes, So okay, 435 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.640 here we go. I had the number wrong. I'm sorry. So Louisville 436 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.599 has five ye three players that have transferred in are five stars. That is 437 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:22.200 Hepburn, Terrence Edwards Junior, and I think the other one actually might be 438 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:29.319 might be Trey Orr from Long Beach State. Doesn't show me that, but 439 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.680 the rest of them are viewed as four stars in the portal. As far 440 00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:37.480 as the guys you lost, you have no five stars that were leaving, 441 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.440 which I got to be honest with you. I thought Louisville, I thought 442 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:41.599 Brandon Hoily half it will be ranked higher than he was, but he's not. 443 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.880 Somebody. But that's just me not realizing that. Like Louisville was so 444 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:48.640 bad that like, there's not going to be a whole lot of love for 445 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.759 any of those players, to be honest with you. So the four stars 446 00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.240 that they lost, four four stars out of the portal, which I guess 447 00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:00.000 that would be like Mike James, Huntley Hatfield, probably Sky Clark and try 448 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.039 Ray White. But then all the other guys that left were not I mean 449 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:07.200 again two of them, Uh, Danilo Gavanovitch, he ended up at Milwaukee. 450 00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:14.079 Caleb Glenn, who I like, he's at fau JJ trainor is at 451 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:15.839 DePaul. Actually he's actually still in Louisville, but he's going to de Paul, 452 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.440 So I mean Louisville again. The bar next year is not to just 453 00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:26.119 be better than than like Kenny Payne. We know that, but for what 454 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.039 it's worth, like the guys that you've added, I mean are better than 455 00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:33.359 most of the players that you lost. And I mean, I still don't 456 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.359 think last year's team was as bad as they were because of talent or inability. 457 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:42.519 But anyways, uh, Indiana they have and this is Indiana's they lost. 458 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.200 Looks like, let's see, they lost three guys, only three, 459 00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:52.480 yes, and let's see, I bet they were all three maybe four, 460 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.279 No, no, they're all three here. So and then the guys that 461 00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.759 you've added, one is a five star, which is clearly bollow and then 462 00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:04.480 the three are four stars. So I mean again like Mike Woodson, the 463 00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:11.000 guys that left, nobody's crying about and nearly every guy you've added a lot 464 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.079 of schools wanted. So with Kentucky there, I'll give him. Their numbers 465 00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.559 are going to be a little bit skewed, right because it's just not realistic 466 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:22.759 to expect any of those guys to stay and play for Mark Pope. But 467 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.319 because Kentucky was a three c last year, and you know, because some 468 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:30.720 of their players are I mean like Aaron Bradshaw. I don't think he did 469 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.920 much of anything, but like he's probably someone that is going to be viewed 470 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.920 as a big loss for them. Yeah, so Kentucky's lost. Let's see. 471 00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.799 I guess it is only four if you think about it, because a 472 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.839 lot of the guys are going pro or graduating, right, like uh Reeves 473 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:51.519 and Mitchell, Like those are guys that are just graduating. Sheppard and Dillingham 474 00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:53.759 and Justin Edwards are going pro. So I guess they're transfers. Out, 475 00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:57.559 it's big z de one or not to Wan'm DJ Wagner, Aaron Bradshaw and 476 00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:02.680 Thierro right, I think that would be it. And yeah, Ugo for 477 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:06.559 some reason, he's not mentioned in here. I don't know why, but 478 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.119 yeah, I mean, and the guys that they've added right now, I 479 00:31:08.119 --> 00:31:15.079 mean they have Kentucky has let's see, four five stars in which is good. 480 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.559 I mean that's that's I mean again, that's one more than Louisville, 481 00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.799 and they have landed some pretty good players. But because of the guys that 482 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.559 are out, you know, with two of them being four stars, that's 483 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:30.119 why they're not viewed as like they're not ranked as high. But then again, 484 00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:33.000 like this is this is actually a ranking that actually value. I mean, 485 00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.440 Louisville, Indian, and Kentucky are all in the top five. And 486 00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.079 I think you can look at it and understand like, Okay, they're looking 487 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:42.920 at Wagner and Bradshaw as a big loss for us, but like, if 488 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:48.799 you're a Kentucky fan, deep down, you know you probably brought in multiple 489 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.160 guys that can give you exactly what both those guys gave you last year, 490 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:53.279 and we're probably going to give you this year. How don't need to pick 491 00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.839 on those two. But man, I spent a lot of time here and 492 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:01.319 and talking about those two guys specifically because they were two of the best freshmen 493 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.359 or they were the two of the best recruits in the country, and you 494 00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:09.160 know, Kentucky and Lowell both wanted them and Kentucky got them. And talk 495 00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:13.839 about underwhelming. I mean, Bradshaw was injured, didn't play a lot, 496 00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.640 and now he's gonna get a fresh start, I guess at Ohio State. 497 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.480 But it would not shock me if DJ Wagner and Aaron Bradshaw just end up 498 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:25.559 being mid college players for the next couple of years. I mean, and 499 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:29.599 you know that there's nothing there's I mean, it could be a lot worse 500 00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:30.599 than that, right, You could be like not playing or something like that. 501 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.240 You could be terrible. But man, there was just so much hype 502 00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.319 about those two guys specifically. And it wasn't just because of the connection here 503 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:43.920 with Camden, New Jersey and Purvis and Milton obviously, you know Cal and 504 00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:45.559 the Wagner family. I mean, that's what made it more of an interesting 505 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.559 thing for us around here. But they were also two of the five I 506 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:51.799 mean, they were five star players. I mean, at one point, 507 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.519 Wagner was number three, and I think Bradshaw was number one in the country 508 00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:02.599 in some of these rankings. But I mean, DJ Wagner, you think 509 00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:08.440 he ends up at USC Yeah, and not really that's not based on anything 510 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.799 other than the fact of what you already mentioned earlier, with it being a 511 00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:15.279 Nike school, and and you may have Brownie James potentially back, he would 512 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.039 have already he would have already you know, committed to CALA. I feel 513 00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:22.319 like, so, you know, I I wouldn't be shocked if he's you 514 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:28.039 know, a career, you know, I mean, the kind of numbers 515 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.279 he put up this past year. Maybe it's because the two guards that played 516 00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:34.000 a lot of minutes were like really really good, which they were. Dealingham 517 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.240 and Shepard were sensational players. Both guys are going to have long NBA careers. 518 00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:42.599 Like maybe that's why Wagner just kind of seemed very very average. But 519 00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:44.759 I mean, those are two guys, in my like in the NBA. 520 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.680 What are they bringing to the table in the NBA that like is a skill 521 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:52.640 set that is valued. I mean Bradshaw's like I guess, athletic, but 522 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:58.960 like I mean no polish, no physicality, doesn't shoot it that well. 523 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:04.039 And then DJ, I mean, he's not quick enough, doesn't play above 524 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:06.880 the rim, doesn't run your team, and he's not a good enough shooter. 525 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.320 So I don't know, I just it's just wild how there was so 526 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.840 much anticipation about where those guys, especially DJ, we're gonna end up going 527 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:16.719 to school. And like I think, in the end, they'll be very 528 00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:21.360 easily for they'll be very easy to forget, those guys down the lines. 529 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:22.239 All right, we got to take our last break. We'll come back here 530 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.280 on the other side. 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But two people have said that there was 556 00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:08.360 at one point, like a date that Great Osibor was was expected to make 557 00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:13.000 some kind of a decision. I don't remember ever seeing that, but like 558 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.639 maybe that maybe he had always planned on making a decision, you know, 559 00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:20.800 right after his Washington visit, which I believe is supposed to happen here in 560 00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:24.599 the next day or so. But you know, obviously, the sooner we 561 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:30.960 hear something, the sooner will all calm down and either be excited or realize 562 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:34.280 we got to shift our attention elsewhere because you know he's gonna end up at 563 00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:38.480 Washington or Texas Tech maybe. But again, just because it's quiet, I 564 00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:42.920 know it makes people worry, but it doesn't necessarily mean anything, right, 565 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.079 It could just mean that the process is playing out, and we were a 566 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:49.320 little spoiled with how quickly it all came together with a lot of these players 567 00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.280 that have committed to play for Pat Kelsey. But with obour we're gonna have 568 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:53.119 to wait a little bit longer. All right, We're out a time. 569 00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:58.199 See tomorrow right here on four stok seven to ninety