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Welcome to you Softcore History. Hello
and welcome back to Softcore History. My

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name's Jake Goldman. I'm joined as
always by my two co hosts, Dan

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Jester and Rob Fox. How you
doing today, boys, Well, you

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know, just fucking hanging in there, just hanging man. Ready to talk

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history. Yeah, I love that
stuff. Um, we are actually gonna

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be talking about something that's been in
the news a little bit, but not

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really for like newsworthy. Shit,
we're not talking about Russia. To me,

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it's a should go back and listen
to that episode though we're not talking

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hot dogs. We're not talking hot
dogs. Dan, non episode, you

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kind of do the food. I
feel like even the history of bananas.

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You did do the history of the
history of fruit. To be fair,

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I did the history of love that
comes with it. If you've eaten any

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fruit in your entire life, you've
you're an oppressor. Just remember that.

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But every banana harvest is really a
blood harvest. Yeah, we're talking about

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um Oppenheimer. Well, first,
let's talk about how we have a Patreon.

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Oh, yeah, we should probably
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a patreon. Check us out patreon
dot com slash Softcore History. You get

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two extra episodes a week. That
means if you give us five dollars a

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month, you don't just get these
four episodes, you get eight more.

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On top of it. The Fruit
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so I don't even remember which is
and it's a deep ass catalog of

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evergreen motherfucking cunt. We're not talking
about The Bachelor, the last Bachelor episode

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or something like that. Why do
you really hate the Bachelor? The batches

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sucks every fuck for sure, But
you're bringing up all the time because there's

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a thousand podcasts about it. There's
a thousand podcasts about that. Don't amore.

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It's all over, it's done.
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anither. I don't know what people
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Bachelor anymore. I don't know.
I don't really listen to podcast Yeah,

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we gotta stay so fresh on this
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of I don't want anyone else's takes, no zero takes in our life.

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I need to just fire from the
hit. Yeah. Check us out patreon

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dot com slash softcore history. We
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Patreon member is gonna discount on that
website. Oh, by the way,

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gonna be having some some new Titanic
merch coming out soon. We say this

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a lot. No, No,
I actually have the design. Okay,

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if you send me the design,
I'll put it on this store. No

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worries. But yeah, So we're
gonna be talking about something in the news

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today, not hot talk manners like
we said. Uh, the Oppenheimer movie

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is coming out July twenty eighth,
I believe, like right around then,

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late July. Angel I don't even
remember the week before. Same week is

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Barbie, Same week is Barbie.
It's the Trouble feature. I would absolutely

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do that. I'm going, but
you know I'm doing that. What order

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are you seeing in it? I
think it's she Gotta go shot Chaser Oppenheimer,

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Barbie? No, no, Barbie
Oppenheimer. You leave with Barbie.

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Yeah, you you watch Freedom and
then you watch what we sacrificed for it?

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Who we sacrificed, Because I don't
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Oppenheimer. You're gonna just be like, nah, the same. I like

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that, Christopher Nolan, just like
this movie is gonna bum you out so

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fucking hard. I truly He's been
talking about people just like leaving the screenings

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weeping, and I better leave that
theater fucking blind when I leave it.

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Do you think they just torch a
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He's all into practical effects, So
just a bunch of Japanese prisoners, right,

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he doesn't believe in CGI. No, I don't know how you recreate

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that without CGI. This this is
the type of movie. We're gonna go

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see it together. But this is
the type of movie I could tell Did

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I say this on a podcast one
of the last ones where I was like,

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it'd be like my wife or someone
will go to it who doesn't know

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much about the history of just World
War two and Japan, and they'll come

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out being like, oh, could
have done that, And I'm like,

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I have so much to explain to
you. This is gonna be so fucking

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annoying. Yeah, God damn it, Christopher Nolan. Yeah, honestly,

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Like, and to spare us that
conversation too. We're not gonna be talking

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about if it's stopped the war.
That's not the important thing here a story,

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Um, what about the guy that
got bombed twice? That guy's that

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I feel for that dude. That
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what. The weird he should be
a side character. You know what.

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The weirdest part about that story is
though he was in he was from Nagasaki,

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but he was in Hiroshima on a
business trip. It is nineteen forty

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five in Japan. What business is
there? The whole country is on fire

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and yeah, they have blockaded on
fire. What business are you doing?

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Which, by the way, the
fire bombing killed more than the nukes.

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Yeah, yeah it did, and
honestly it was probably worse. Yeah,

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the nukes just like quick. Yeah
for the people that caught killed instantly,

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not for the ones that didn't.
Yeah, but Homie survived the first nuke,

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goes home to his family like the
craziest today, Suke, You'll never

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believe what happened. Oh shit,
And then he lived to be like ninety

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three. Yeah no they and they
say radiation radiation poison and be damned like,

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yeah, I think he got the
good radiation, like he got the

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Marvel radiation. Yeah. Yeah,
he was just turning into a giant green

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man at night when he got angry. That's what happened for him. Everyone

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else there insights melted. Yeah.
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pretty much, what if it's actually
the best thing for you. It's

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like smoking SIGs whiskey and then radiation. That's why the government is trying to

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get us to live less long.
So they tell us smoking is bad and

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drinking's bad. But every person that
lives to be a one hundred years old,

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you see a news story on him
glass whiskey or a bottle of whiskey

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a day and a two packs of
smokes, and they're like, yeah,

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I just stood there outside the bunker
at White Sands just breathed it in.

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You know, you know why that
you know why those people really lived that

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long though. They're fucking relaxed.
They're chill. They're all chill people,

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so relax they're not like fucking sports
God, dude, you know they're not

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those I will young. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, you're having twenty fifty

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two SEC championship game. Just oh
no, like Felipe Franks Junior just throws

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a pick six, my heart explodes. Yeah, um but yeah no,

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so yeah, Oppenheimer's in the news
a lot, so obviously there's a lot

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of resurgence of content surrounding the father
of the atomic bomb, Jay Robert Oppenheimer,

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the Manhattan Project, and the historical, ethical, and sociological implications of

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the bomb itself. While we will
cover the man who birthed the most destructive

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weapon in the history of the world
and the project that helped create it.

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Me being a weird woo woo conspiracy
man, I also want to dive into

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the metaphysical consequences of the bomb.
The consequence is being fun to discuss and

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terrifying to actually consider. But of
course we'll start with facts first and then

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sloppily ham fisted our way into absurdity
and loose interpretations of reality. I don't

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care facts. Yeah, I don't
like your methods here. You want to

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just go straight to the whu wo
facts. We gotta make fun of Jaopenheimer

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first, Okay, yeah, I
liked it. Truman thought he was a

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little bitch. A lot of people
did. A lot of people did.

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Man, A lot of people thought
he was a weird little kid, a

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weird guy. Okay, that's a
weird dude. Not as handsome as Cilian

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Murphy. No, he's not,
he's not. He's not great. He's

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all right, Cilian Murphy. Is
he handsome? Or is he haunting.

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What's the difference to a woman,
I ask you, Rob, Yeah,

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Like I feel like every woman who
wants to fuck. Cillian Murphy has had

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like a fantasy about making love to
a ghost in a lighthouse. I would

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say a ghoul almost. He's no, he's like a ghost. He's like

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a he's like a he's like a
tragic ghost figure. Yes, but he's

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alive on the water. I understand
that. Yeah. And he's like he

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wanders into the main chambers and he's
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voyage and told my wife I would
return. Where is she? It's like

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you're from eighteen fifty three. Yeah, pretty much. There's like that hurricane

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ghost, the Gray Man. I
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in the Carolinas, but he shows
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He went to like warn his his
fiancee or something of a of an appendent

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impending hurricane. And I don't know
it was lost in the storm or did

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he do it the moment it hit. Short hurricane story, but I'm just

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saying that the gray Man shows up. Well, he was bad at planning,

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but Oppenheimer not as much. He
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was born on April twenty second,
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His father was an extroverted, wealthy
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States in eighteen eighty eight with no
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and his mother, Ella, was
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Rocking out in the Oppenheimer house were
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Good lord. Yeah, so they
weren't like bad stock. What was

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this guy's life from the get go? Yeah? He was good stock.

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He had some good stock. Yeah, wealthy guy with nothing coming up or

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come over with nothing, no English
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And his mom's just like balling in
art. So of course he's gonna make

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a nuclear when you have that kind
of money. Yeah, you want to

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be a destroyer of worlds? Yes, you want to come down. His

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parents were creators, so he was
a destroyer skips a generation. Yeah,

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and then his kid was like made
the cancer cure or whatever dud. He

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would be funny if his kid was
a cooked He's just like, you know,

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my fucking man right now? Where
the comic bomb bro? I hate

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nuke Neppo babies, they're the worst. He became a DJ. Actually yeah,

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yeah, DJ Forever Sunshine or whatever, Nuclear Sunshine. I could see

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Oppenheimer's kid being it wood Stock probably, I can see it. We'll get

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into this later, but I could
also see Oppenheimer very much. It would

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Stock, okay, yeah, but
he wasn't incredited. I mean he did

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quote Sidhartha, yeah, to talk
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quoted a different quote. He thought
the other one that everyone's very familiar with

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it, that that's from a memoir. Okay, okay, okay, yeah.

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Um. It was incredibly gifted from
the jump. He completed the third

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and fourth grade in one year,
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the age of twelve. Impressive.
Those are easy grades. Yeah, I

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could. I could fucking breathe through
third grade right now. You're smart,

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though, you could totally breathe through
your third grade. But I don't think

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you could skip half of eighth grade
right now. Yeah. No, Algebra

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would kill me. They do everything
different now too. Yeah, you'd have

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to do modern math or whatever that
shit is. Algebra. That's sounds easier,

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No, it's not. You have
to do it like the same question,

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like thirty times in different ways to
show you have a complete grasp of

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the numbers. Just you wait,
wait for your kids to get the eighth

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grade. Yeah, it's gonna be
fun, dude. That is the part

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i've I've I'm just like not gonna
help with their homework. I'll pay a

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fucking tutor. There's gotta be broke. I would pay to get out of

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that. There. You guys probably
experienced this too, But there's a point

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in your life in your academic school
work, when you're getting into like high

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school, where it like I can't
ask my parents for help because they're not

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gonna know either, Like why would
they ever attained this information? No,

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it's like, oh, I'm in
kem. Yeah, my dad doesn't know

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facano. Like I'm not. I'm
not being like son, I talk about

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Wieners who are a living I breathed
farts into a microphone. Yeah, so

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yeah, I don't couldn't help.
Yeah I could help him write a paper,

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Yeah, totally. Absolutely. You
can help him with grammar for sure,

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chat GPTs for I'm useless, oh
man, And that's better than all

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of us. Oh yeah. By
the age of twelve, though, he

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was using the family typewriter to correspond
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in Central Park. One of the
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from membership in the New York Minor
Miniroological Club Sweet and shortly thereafter to deliver

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a lecture for its members, totally
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They thought they were talking to like
a forty year old geologist. Yeah,

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these guys in between that he was
talking about, how much fucking plussy he

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was slamming from speaking of heart rack, how cool he was. Dude,

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once you get into hardcore minerals,
man, you're just drowning in it.

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Guy's a weirdo. Not hard to
convince people back then, though, everyone

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right, I say, I would
bet there is a real like articulation gap

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in society, you know what I
mean? Yeah, Like educated twelve year

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old is still better than most of
society. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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especially if it's like, oh,
he's talking about like this is nineteen sixteen

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sous rocks. Okay, he knows
ye, like he used the buzz for

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man, Yeah. Um yeah.
So he showed up at the club with

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his parents, who probably introduced him, and the audience of geologists and rock

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collectors burst out laughing when he stepped
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him, like they're all gonna laugh. Yeah. He actually was like,

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hey, do I have to do
this to his dad? And his dad's

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like you should do it before he
even went they're in the nature of people

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and that he does. But you
know, he's like, if I could

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like all of you on fire at
the same time and it was the hottest

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fire ever, I would do it. And I'm gonna find a way to

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I'll find a way. He was
giving a wooden box that they found for

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him to stand on, and the
audience was pretty shocked when they saw this,

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just like little wiry, black haired
kid just sitting there like rocks and

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stuff, but apparently shy and awkwardly. He just like crushed the geology presentation

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and everyone like stood up and gave
him like a like a since you round

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of applause. Yeah, because at
the end of the day, let's remember

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this is a room full of rock
nerds. Yeah, it doesn't take it's

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not a high ball. It's the
coolest guy they know. Yeah, it's

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like this guy's gonna be even cooler
than us when he's a right. It's

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like when it's like an arrest of
a home when Buster goes to George Michael

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to buy weed because George Michael's calls
person he knows. Uh well. While

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his intelligence was undeniable, he suffered
the torment that sensitive smart children often do

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from their peers, and he suffered
it pretty bad. Got his ass beat.

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Uh, he got his z ass
painted. Bro they painted him.

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Oh yeah, so plain and simple. Roppenheimer was light years ahead of other

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kids intellectually. He was physically underdeveloped, so yeah, they weren't really making

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fun of him for being smart.
It was more everything else about him that

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he couldn't possibly change, like the
way he sat or walked and carried himself.

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You can change all of those things. Yeah, but it's because he

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was like he's just like sitting there, like they're just like making fun of

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him, and he's like sitting just
like this. They're like bang fuhm,

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and he's like, I got change, but I sit like yeah, you

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absolutely can. He's just got He's
just like in a full power bottom position

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and he's like I have this sit
like this. The kid in high school

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that comes every day in the suit, Yes kind of. I mean like

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he is like two or three years
younger than all of this because a briefcase,

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well you don't already doing this,
man, But like letting your kids

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skip is dumb. Maybe maybe one
grade they can handle if it's really like

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pointless phim to be there. But
if your kids skips ahead like six grades,

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they are definitely being held back.
In other ways, no one's hanging

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out with the kid that's three years
younger than Yeah, Like if you're thirteen

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and there's a kid that's ten in
your class, you're like, fuck that,

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I'm not even talking to that kid. Why would you. I'd be

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scared too. It's like, oh, I gotta reveal something to you that

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you don't know about your kids.
Or you're in college, Yeah, let

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the fifteen year old tag along?
Yeah past yeah. Yeah. They're like

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in Revenge of the Nerves where they
like, like the genius kid joins the

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frat. He's like one of the
kids to the frat. They're like getting

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fucked up and looking at porno and
he's just like they are watching it with

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him. Yeah, exactly. It's
it's a decision made by adults that is

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not beneficial for children because they forget
what the age gap is like as children.

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It's like when you're thirty three and
thirty, it's like, oh,

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you're the same person you are that
yeah exactly. Yeah, but thirteen and

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ten, fifteen and eighteen. Oh
yeah, I hung out with fifteen year

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old when I was eighteen. Yeah
he did, you weirdo. I've just

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friends who are sophomores. I mean
nineteen and sixteen. Na, that's still

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not college and high school aged.
Yeah, i'd go more. I think

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this is more about This is saying
a lot more about you. What are

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you talking about, like nineteen sixteen, I'm not hanging I'm not I'm not

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hanging out with sixteen year old.
Yeah, like fifteen year old be on

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the golf team with me. But
I wasn't going to parties with them.

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No, I wasn't going to the
woods to drink with him. You didn't

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have soft you weren't you a You
didn't go to parties as a sophomore and

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be then you didn't. There weren't
sophomores also at parties. We kind of

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just had parties, but like parties
with our grade the grade above us,

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but not how big were your grades? Like a thousand kids in each?

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Oh see my whole high schools a
thousand kids? Uh, I mean was

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probably about two thousand total, so
like five hundred each. Yeah, I

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mean we yeah, like we had
all like all. He went to an

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all boys school though, right,
it's a little different too with that,

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I think. Yeah, Like,
I mean, I guess there were girls

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at your parties. Yeah what do
you mean you guess? I I guess

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they were never came all too.
They're coming closest things a sophomore. Uh,

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twinkie ass body anyway, At fourteen
years old, while in the summer

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camp Kanegg, these traits led to
mercilessly taunting by other boys, who called

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him cutie all day and everything about
him basically made him a target. This

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all came to a head when he
would be locked naked in an ice house

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overnight with his penis and butt painted
green. That's horrible, but that's pretty

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rough, yeah, right, and
called me an avocado like maybe it's green,

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and called me cutie. It's not
great. I especially it's like the

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Texas Rangers thing where they all hazed
that player, where they like pinned him

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down and jerked him off and like
we're calling him gay. Yeah, this

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is hazing. I don't that's gazing. Yeah, No, it's this is

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kind of gazing. It's it's all
weird. Yeah, it's weirder for adults,

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for fourteen fourteen year olds Lord of
the Flies, come on, yeah,

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yeah, I mean this was like
I think the Rangers. I mean

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it was minor leagues with very young
adults. It was like eighteen nineteen,

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wasn't it one of the Odors,
one of the one it was. It

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was roughed Out o'door's brother, whose
name was Roughnet o'dor. Yeah, dude,

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I just I'm in the locker room
post game. Everyone's like, hey,

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we're all gonna jerk off. Frank
Like, I don't want to jerk

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off from laugh at him. I
don't want to touch his dick preferably.

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But I'm also I'm in on the
name of your kids the same name.

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Yeah, it's not bad, You're
not after you. It's just like your

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roughnet all right, now, your
rough dad. We all the kids are

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the same name, well, the
two of them are. They're a roughnead,

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the two. Yeah, that's that's
just you're gonna be in sports.

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I liked that. That also that
Latino name. It just sounds like an

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Irish brawler. I was gonna say, yeah, Odor, the whole thing

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is a man that cannot be punched
down. You don't want to lick from

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roughnet o'dor, especially if he's been
drinking. His father rougher ned. Yeah,

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but this kind of proves the point
that bullion makes great men. M

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Yeah. So he suffered in silence, neither complaining nor asking to leave the

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campfully. So he wrote home to
Yeah, kind of, he was a

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very uh he turned everything inward.
He's a big compartmentalizer, even as a

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child. So he wrote home to
his parents. He thought to himself,

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Yeah, it's like I better not
say anything, but it's gonna be.

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They might paint my dick green,
but I am a god now. He

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wrote home to his parents that,
uh, he was happy he was that

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camp because the other boys were teaching
him the facts of life not wrong quote

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and yeah those facts of life where
that people can be intolerably cruel. Were

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they more poor though? I don't
know, see the richest kid, Ye,

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rich kids, he's not just going
to a fucking gen pop camp.

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Probably if he's rich. Yeah,
but how many of these parents of the

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other children have van gos is van
go as? Has it? Had it

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appreciated yet to that point? Yeah, it's a good point. I don't

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know, I don't know. But
this isn't again, this isn't a gen

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pop camp. This is this is
probably another rich kie. But rich kids

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fun with each other like that all
the time, kids or mean skull and

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bones. Tie a ribbon around your
wiener, make you talk about weird sex

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stuff you've done. That's only rich
gets run for president against each other.

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Yeah, have fun about it.
Well. Yeah, This kind of stoic,

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suppressive and introverted, introverted disposition would
lead to a depression that would play

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Goppenheimer the rest of his life.
His biographers described a difficult period for Oppenheimer

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in Cambridge. Writing to his friend
Francis Ferguson, Oppenheimer expressed having a pretty

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bad time. The lab work is
a terrible bore, he said, And

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I am glad or I am so
bad at it that it is impossible to

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feel that I am learning anything.
The lectures are totally vile. So he

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wasn't even like a cocky smart dude. He was like everyone so much smarter

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than me, Like he just was
so depressed all the time. Oh okay,

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so he was kind of like but
maybe that got him to fucking grind.

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You know. Did he have mind
dysmorphia? We'll get to that.

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Actually, so his poster syndrome,
I guess, yeah, kind of like

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that whole Dunning Krueger thing where it's
like, what's the scale where it's like

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if you're if you know something about
something, you feel like you know everything.

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But the more you learn, the
less you feel like. It's almost

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as if the smarter he got,
the dumber he thought he was. Just

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like when you're at the gym,
the bigger you get, the smaller you

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think you are. For a long
time, that's the case. His difficulties

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in the laboratory were compounded by his
deteriorating emotional state. One day, Oppenheimer

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caught himself staring at an empty blackboard
with a piece of chalk in his hand,

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muttering over and over to himself,
the point is, the point is,

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the point is? He just kept
saying it. It's wanted to like

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shake him. See, this is
why I think smartphones were good for the

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world. Nobody does that anymore.
Just Google that quantum. You just don't

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go into a fucking weird trance.
Yeah, you just look at your phone

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instead. Yeah, it's made people
dumber but less insane. It's like I

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can just look at Instagram or something. I'll get over this. Have you

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walked the streets of the city and
those people don't have good enough smartphones?

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Those are those are cricket phones,
man? Yeah, yeah, with them

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on a Verizon plan and yeah,
walking into his room one day, a

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friend caught Robert laying on the floor, groaning and rolling from side to side.

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By the end of the fall term, Ferguson concluded that Oppenheimer was experiencing

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a first class case of depression.
An episode occurred aboard a train that indicated

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that Oppenheimer was losing control emotionally.
This is a quote from his friend.

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He found himself in a third class
carriage with a man and a woman who

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were making love, and though he
tried to read the thermodynamics book he was

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reading, he could not concentrate,
which is just an insane scenes like I'm

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trying to read theoretical physics. Please
stop fucking He's just in the same card

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as then, Yeah, in the
same carriage. Yeah, Okay. When

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the man left though didn't leave,
Well, no, he did it.

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If you stay start while you're in
there, you're allowed to stay. That's

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true, that's just etiquette. They've
invited you to watch. Put the book

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down. Yeah. Well, when
the man of the couple left, Oppenheimer

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then got up and kissed the woman. She did not seem unduly surprised,

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meaning the name were into it sick. Yeah, but he was at once

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overcome with remorse, fell on his
knees, his feet sprawling, and with

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many tears, begged her pardon.
It seems that Robert could like not really

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relate to anyone. Yeah. Wait, how did they find it? Was

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this in his memoir? It was
something that was told to a friend by

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Oppenheimer, and then they it was
biography later, Yeah, it was in

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the biography. Watched these two strangers. Fuck. Then I tried to kiss

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her. She seemed like not that
big of a deal. But then he's

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like, oh, weird, he
couldn't. He freaked out, And you

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know, if he stepped up to
the plate, then maybe he wouldn't have

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had to step up to the plane. That's how Oppenheimer got into the lifestyle.

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Well, there's some lifestyle talk for
Manhattan Project too, but we'll get

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to that in a little bit.
Upside down Pineapples. There is a pineapple

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drink we'll talk about later. But
after another disturbing event involving Ferguson occurred when

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Robert took a vacation from his studies
and traveled to Paris. His friend noticed

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that Oppenheimer was feeling depressed. To
help distract him, he told him,

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Hey, I'm gonna marry my girlfriend, which I've never been Like, hey,

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you're depressed, let me tell you
about my good news. Yeah,

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okay, I'll get married. That'll
cheer yep. Uh yeah. No.

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You don't just bang though. You
gotta counter bad news with good news.

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But normally, like everyone's good news, they're like, hey, the stock

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markets up, not hey, I'm
getting married and becoming rich. If I

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was like bummed, even a little
bummed as someone walked up me and I

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was like, hey the stock markets
up, at least I'm like the fuck

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are you talking about? Don's a
bad example. Duncan the depressed any chance

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you can get his friend was awesome. There is a there's a point to

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be made though, that, like
you should always mention the stock markets up.

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That's really what all that matters.
It must not. Then someone's just

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gonna be like, what the fuck
are you talking about? I know,

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yeah, like what who? Who
the fuck asked you that? Yeah?

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Well, Oppenheiber didn't take that news
well. Rather, he he actually jumped

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on Ferguson and tried to suffocate him
when he heard that he was getting married.

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Okay, so that's a violent and
weird suppressed like there's something wrong with

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you if that's your initial reaction.
But I think, yeah, he's just

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off, Yeah, he's just fucking. His friend was able to pretty easily

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throw him off of him. Oppenheimer
weighed less than one hundred and thirty pounds

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at the time. The episode cemented
his friend's impression that Oppenheimer was a person

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with deep psychological issues. While still
at Christ's College, Oppenheimer developed a bad

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distaste for his tutor, the experimental
physicist Patrick Blackett, who was a few

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years as senior. He was so
consumed by feelings of inadequacy and intense jealousy

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that he decided to poison Blackett's apple
with chemicals from the laboratory and left it

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on Blackett's desk before going on vacation. Fortunately, Blackett didn't eat the apple,

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but Cambridge got word of the story
and concluded that if he alleged poison

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used was lethal, then what Robert
had done amounted to attempted murder. Luckily

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attempted Yeah, for sure. Luckily
his father was in Cambridge and successfully like

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lobbied the university did not press criminal
charges. Instead, Oppenheimer was put on

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probation and required to see if psychiatrist
in London regularly, which he did the

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00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:15,440
Fordian psycho. I'm sorry he was
like part of the Fordian It's like Kiatry

403
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,839
school of like, you know,
pretty much just like I'm gonna sit here

404
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:22,319
and listen while you've talk at me. Yeah, kind of camp. Maybe

405
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,000
you'll just confess eventually you would say
something that I can use again. Yeah,

406
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:30,200
he basically gave him like, I
believe the term for it is dementia.

407
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,559
Pray Cox might be pronouncing that wrong, but it's like the precursor to

408
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:40,279
what a schizophrenia. Sweet, Yeah, you have early on set voices pretty

409
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,559
much. He pictures like what do
you see? It's like it's like,

410
00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:48,799
well Timmy sees, yeah, well, fifty eight year old man in my

411
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:52,440
head who doesn't have a face.
Yeah, cease fire, always fire.

412
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:57,759
The faceless man sees only fire.
Yeah, but yeah. In the psychiatrist

413
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,319
notes, these are a couple of
quotes. Uh, he is a hopeless

414
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,359
case whose further analysis would do more
harm than good. Basically, don't even

415
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,599
bother, don't lookin, don't open
that door, keep the box close.

416
00:27:10,759 --> 00:27:15,759
Yeah. Uh what he was a
gifted scientist and theoretical physicist. But yeah,

417
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:19,400
the guy had some problems. Dude, this is putting. Please listen

418
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,519
to this episode before he puts.
Please send this episode to your friends before

419
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:26,920
you go see Oppenheimer. Yeah,
learning a lot. I'm actually learning something

420
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,400
and not just like a yeah Jery
Robert Oppenheimer had a weird wiener. Yeah

421
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:36,480
yeah, I need to see that
scene in the movie of him just watching

422
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,119
this couple. Fuck if it's not
in the movie that and and like there

423
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,039
needs to be a flashback because you
know, Nolan loves loves to jump around

424
00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:48,920
time where you constantly cut back to
them, like roller painting his dick green

425
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,000
like a bomb, like a bomb, count gets like a bomb countdown intercut

426
00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:03,279
with like yeah, three, it's
a three hour movie. This better make

427
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:07,000
the cut. How could it not
give us like at least twenty seconds of

428
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:11,880
it, and it's yeah, it's
degreedious to leave that on the cutter floor.

429
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,519
That's like the classic meme where it's
the person pushing over the tiny little

430
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:21,000
domino and there's big ones like paint
nerds, Dick Green. Thousands of people

431
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:23,960
die in nuclear fire in Rosia on
one hundreds of thousands of Japanese people belt.

432
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,759
Yeah, but yeah, how did
this tormented and brilliant little weirdo become

433
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:32,640
the father of the bomb? Well, it all starts. In nineteen thirty

434
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,759
eight, physicists Autohn and Fritz Stratzman
found that when a neutron with enough energy

435
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:41,079
strikes a fizzle atom, the atom
splinters into pieces, releasing lots of energy

436
00:28:41,119 --> 00:28:45,000
in a bunch more neutrons. The
energy from a single split atom won't cause

437
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:48,880
an explosion, though, but if
someone could figure out how to get lots

438
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,839
of these little atoms really close together
and then split one, the resulting energy

439
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,440
release would be able to find and
split more atoms. This would cause the

440
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,880
chain reaction that would quickly cascade into
what we now know as nuclear explosion.

441
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:06,519
Once this information was published, it
essentially let the scientific community in there for

442
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,480
the world. No, you could
weaponize nuclear reactions. So it'd be like

443
00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:15,440
if someone published tomorrow like, so
we use a large hadron collider and we

444
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,960
found out we can't do it.
But we found out that if you figure

445
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,039
out how to do X, Y, and Z, either just open a

446
00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:26,880
black hole under a city yep,
and make that city go goodbye and it's

447
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,160
self contained. Yeah, it won't
end of the Earth. Maybe. Yeah.

448
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,960
Actually they didn't know that at that
time. At this time, like

449
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,759
when they were first doing before trend
I just keep eating Adams. They thought

450
00:29:37,799 --> 00:29:41,000
the first nuclear bomb could just ignite
the atmosphere and melt everyone. Not everyone

451
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,799
thought that. Not enough people thought
that for them to not do it,

452
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:48,160
But a couple were like, you
know, that isn't the trailer. Abenheim

453
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:49,599
was like, let's go one percent
chance is it? What do you want?

454
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:52,519
It's theoretical. Matt Damon's like like
zero. Yeah, well you know

455
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:56,599
that Damon's pretty OVERACTI in the trailer. Yeah. Leslie Grove is the guy

456
00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:02,200
who he plays. He's the major
general in charge of the Manhattan Project.

457
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:06,240
Yeah. One. Matt Damon's a
bad casting for him. That is a

458
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,599
penguin man like he is just a
round, big, sturdy guy. He's

459
00:30:08,599 --> 00:30:14,240
like a bumble butt. Matt Damon's
too handsome. Yeah, we need Jesse

460
00:30:14,359 --> 00:30:18,960
Plemmons. Jesse Plemmons might be good. He's just a rounder, Matt Damon.

461
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,880
I think you need Walter math El's
ghost for this guy. No,

462
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:27,160
Mathel played Einstein and it would distract
you, said penguin type, right,

463
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:33,519
he's he's a rotund man. Yeah, No, he wasn't small though,

464
00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:36,880
he wasn't like tying. That's fair. Yeah, anyway, just shoot from

465
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:42,920
down low for Danny Devita pointing straight
up. Yeah. So basically, though,

466
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,960
once the report's got out, cats
out of the bag and everyone knows

467
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,119
this is in nineteen thirty eight,
this shit could get going real quick,

468
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:53,839
right, and the Germans, I
assume we're already grabbing land. Well,

469
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,279
yeah, the timing couldn't have been
worse for such deadly possibility. While many

470
00:30:57,319 --> 00:31:02,759
European physicists fled the Naziers, some
German scientists had given Hitler a headstart on

471
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:07,759
a potential bomb, and this freaked
out all the world. Basically knowing that

472
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:14,759
Hitler, yeah seems so, it
seems valid. I'm gonna interject here with

473
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,240
what I've actually written down, because
I know a little bit more, but

474
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:19,599
I couldn't fit it all in here
anyway. Knowing that Hitler had a head

475
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,359
start, the US government realized the
urgency of producing a nuclear weapon to counteract

476
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,039
it. The army began what would
be called the Manhattan Project, building factories

477
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:30,640
to produce raw materials in recruiting the
country's most brilliant physicists to move to a

478
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,920
planned laboratory in Las Almos, New
Mexico. Major General Leslie Groves, in

479
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,079
charge of choosing the scientific team,
handpicked Oppenheimer to lead the lab in October

480
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,200
nineteen forty two. So a couple
things here. You were talking about this

481
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,920
the other day. We had some
sort of like what was it, jet

482
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,359
fighter crisis in the bomber gap,
the bomber gap. Yeah, that's it.

483
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,640
So we basically just had this weird
assumption that everyone was light years ahead

484
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,880
of us. They're just the Soviets, are just sure, the Soviets our

485
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,440
enemies, right, We're so ahead
of us, and we just kept cranking

486
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,319
out fighters. Yeah, and we
ended up just way over pacing it.

487
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:14,000
Yeah, kind of happened here.
So I believe it's Heisenberg is in charge

488
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,319
of the nuclear program in Germany at
the time, and he knows how to

489
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,279
do it. But it's really fun. They can't like physically do it.

490
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:25,880
They need what's called heavy water in
order to deal with their reactors. And

491
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,200
I will not get into the science
of this, but there's like one company

492
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,119
in Norway that makes that shit that
they can get access to, and that

493
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,839
company like smuggles the heavy water out
of the country, so the Nazis can't

494
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,880
get it. Good call, Yeah, is that the entire reason they invaded

495
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,519
Norway? It's one of them.
Yeah, it's a huge reason because they

496
00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:47,160
wanted that ship for the atomic that's
wild. But yeah, so Germany was

497
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,279
really hamstrong by the resources they had
availed to make from what I'm from what

498
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:57,000
I understand, they were never that
close. They if they have the resources,

499
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,960
they could have done it. They
knew how to do it. It's

500
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000
just like they it would have been
really hard, especially with the amount of

501
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:05,759
fronts they had going on. Like
it's everything spread thin, right, and

502
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:10,079
there's I'm really glossing over a lot
there, But that's a million other story.

503
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,559
Talk about mob And then when did
Einstein leave. I don't know exactly

504
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:20,720
what Germany. Yeah, like thirty
three something like that. Okay, yeah,

505
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:25,000
I remember. There's another story two
of like a bunch of kids had

506
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:29,839
to tell people looking for Einstein where
to find him in like Long Island.

507
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:32,039
Like these people are like, we
have to find Albert Einstein, and like

508
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:37,319
they go to Long Island and there's
no like internet, like well not even

509
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:38,440
a good phone book. Yeah,
so they had to like walk to some

510
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:40,400
kids and be like, hey,
do you know this like kind of weird

511
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:45,599
sounding dude, it's crazy scientists.
There's like a couple kids that were playing

512
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:49,279
baseball. They hit the ball over
his fence and how to go retrieve it

513
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,079
and he's probably nice dude, but
yeah, they were like, oh,

514
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,440
yeah, that weirdo. He's over
there right there. That's how they found

515
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,279
him. Two little like latchkey kids. Sweet. It's pretty weird. But

516
00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:59,559
yeah. At the time, Oppenheimer, when he was chosen for this,

517
00:33:59,599 --> 00:34:02,200
was a US are at the University
of California, Berkeley. Though a brilliant

518
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,319
theorist and widely respected scientists, some
question whether he could even manage the scope

519
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:10,639
and personnel of the project. This
included about twenty current or future Nobel Prize

520
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:15,280
winners, so you know, you
know, roomful and normal people. You're

521
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:21,480
not thinking twice about them. They're
probably not these like fucking megaliths of their

522
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,760
industry and stuff. To you.
Prize winners are they kind of running off

523
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,440
the coattails of these projects. They're
not writing off the coattails. They're developing

524
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,960
the theorems that allow them to exist. Right, But they won all their

525
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,880
awards after the fact. Well,
yeah, you can't win an award before

526
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,559
you do. But each person individually, when they're coasting on being in the

527
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:44,280
Manhattan Project, yeah, oh yeah, I mean like that's where Yeah,

528
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:47,639
that's where all the theories come from. You know, what's something else where

529
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,000
people do that. It's like you
get a big contract in sports just because

530
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,639
you were on some dope team and
then you have to go lead the other

531
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:58,480
team instead of being a role player
on it and kind of not worth that

532
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:01,000
money. Yeah, well that's on
the people signing it. Yeah, it's

533
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:06,039
on Nobel. Yeah. But uh, he just didn't seem like the type

534
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,599
to head a major military project due
to his depression. Um, he often

535
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,840
works so hard that he forgot to
eat, making him incredibly frail, an

536
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,679
appearance like even thinner than before.
He's pretty emaciated looking still in where he's

537
00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:21,000
perfect then, yeah, kind of
a ghost man. He's just not that

538
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,719
handsome. He walked around with like
a gate and like had his head cock

539
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,679
to the side and stuff. He
looked like a dying person constantly, the

540
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,519
exact person i'd expect to invent the
internal bob. Yeah. He also had

541
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:32,280
a chronic cough. He smoked four
packs of cigarettes a day. It sounds

542
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,480
normal for the time. Does is
four normal? Kind of four? He

543
00:35:37,559 --> 00:35:42,960
doesn't eat? Yeah, you gotta
do something. Yeah, I feel like

544
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,199
two is normal. Four is like
he smokes a lot, but not like,

545
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,719
oh yeah, like, oh,
four packs a day. Did anyone

546
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,920
have a sense of smell like you
got you were used to it? I

547
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,199
assume imagine, well, yeah,
imagine food started tasting way better to people

548
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:57,559
too when they stopped. Yeah,
I assume. But I mean, like,

549
00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,800
dude, you could be in clud
mean, everyone was smoking, like

550
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,880
in the lecture hall and shit like
that was like up until like the eighties.

551
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,119
Actually, you know, there was
probably so much smoking that no one

552
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:08,079
noticed the smell of it in rooms
and shit because there was just constantly cigarette

553
00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:12,000
You only notice the smell of cigarettes
being smoked in a place when there isn't

554
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,760
smoking happening anymore. I miss it. I miss being a child going to

555
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,960
a bowling alley and just smelling some
Just in Haley, we have we've stopt

556
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,480
Talke to this where there's a rule
where there should be a rule if there's

557
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:28,239
any bowling lanes or like more than
two pool tables in a bar smoke here.

558
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,840
I think if you serve alcohol,
cigarettes should be welcomed. Yeah,

559
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,840
yeah, to degree, you know
that. For that reason, that's why

560
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,960
I smoke whenever I visit the built
More State looking at bowling lane right there.

561
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:42,400
Yeah, it's right fucking ripping heaters
in here. Also, at this

562
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,840
point, now that people are used
to they're not being smoking, it seems

563
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,719
like that's sort of almost like a
free market situation, right, Like if

564
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,559
you don't want to go to the
smoking bar, you won't go to the

565
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:53,599
smoking bar. Yeah. I feel
like you should just be able to pay

566
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:57,159
a special permit where it's like we're
gonna have smoking here. Yeah, you

567
00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:00,400
can't stokers. Yeah, I think
that's fine. And I you know,

568
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,559
for certain bars you can't, like
cigar bars and stuff like that. But

569
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:05,280
I don't think you can serve food. I think food is the obesity has

570
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,920
become a problem in this country.
I think we counter it by giving the

571
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:12,119
children cigarettes. The children yearned for
the six they do. They yearned for

572
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:15,519
the mines. If I mean they
book both calls cause heart disease. But

573
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,239
a thinner person is presumably still help. They'll survive longer than the kid with

574
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,280
diabetes. To be fair, you
know this might sound crazy. I've said

575
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,679
this before. What's worse for you? Bagfull, big max, just a

576
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:36,840
little cocaine. Smokers always lived to
be like seventy five. They die horrifically,

577
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,079
but they live to be seventy five. That's all genetic. Don't let

578
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:45,679
readers die. Just full human.
But the military labeled him permanently physically incapacitated

579
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:49,400
because of his condition, so he
had to sign a waiver to take up

580
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,880
his post. The military was also
concerned about his left wing activism. He

581
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,159
was close with several Communist Party members. The Soviet Union was America's ally at

582
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:02,000
the time, but the FBI considered
communists at home to be dangerous subversives.

583
00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:06,880
But Groves went to bat for him
and was like, no, he's the

584
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,760
guy we need him, and that's
pretty insane, Like a major general is

585
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:15,960
like this weird looking, strange sex
watching friend, choking guy. He's gonna

586
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,719
do it. He's gonna build this
bomb for us. It's a little weird

587
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:22,719
for the I mean, like,
what would you even call him in nineteen

588
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:28,639
forty two except a queer not gay
and like just this this queer skinny four

589
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,199
pack a day, doesn't eat man, It's like you don't want a meeting.

590
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,920
You don't want a meeting, you
want him theorizing. Yeah yeah,

591
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:38,000
but uh you know, I eating's
for communists. Well the communist thing to

592
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:42,400
you, Like, let's talk about
it, Like is he just taking any

593
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,559
friend he could get? Really?
Probably that, like that's a one big

594
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:50,719
thing. Like also, it wasn't
like we need a Soviet communist system.

595
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,480
It's like more like people talking about
ideas and smoking pot. I Also,

596
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:59,639
he doesn't strike me from what you
said so far as the type of guy

597
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:04,440
that had as like a political worldview. No, he really didn't at all

598
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:07,679
until the late thirties once the Nazis
started getting the power and he's like,

599
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,840
oh that's not good. Like he's
like, I'm gonna start with politics.

600
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,920
Went as far as like that.
Hitler guy, kind of a piece.

601
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:17,079
I don't like him. Yeah.
Yeah, it's like, man if Oppenheimer's

602
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:22,679
calling you bad, funny weird,
you're real weird. Yeah, we'll get

603
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,000
into how weird Hitler was one day. We've rushed on it a couple of

604
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:29,920
times. Yeah, yeah, everybody
does. Everybody though Hitler weird dick and

605
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,440
was addicted to math. Blah blah
blah. Yeah, yeah, sorry,

606
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:37,760
sorry, I'm duncan on your boy, your man crush. Yeah, he's

607
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:43,480
got ugly knees, dude, Hitler. Yeah, he doesn't matter. None

608
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:45,280
of that matters. It's funny that
people like he had a weird dick and

609
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,960
you really yeah, actually, he
really doesn't need it, doesn't It's like

610
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,639
he's also a genocidal maniac. You
can just dunk on that. He could

611
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:54,320
be. He could be a perfect
specimen of a human being. All I'm

612
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,559
saying, all you gotta do with
the Hitler time machine question is you go

613
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:00,920
back in time, take the spot
out of the art. Teacher will be

614
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,800
like a plus bro, you forever
crush that painting. No deaths, no

615
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,639
death's needed. Yeah, but then
I'm not born. Yeah, a lot

616
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:14,679
of what's done is done. Yeah, who cares. We got him.

617
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,280
Yeah, you leave baby Hitler alone, let him do his thing. Yeah.

618
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:21,639
Uh. The tiny town of Los
Alamos, New Mexico, was chosen

619
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:24,360
as the location for the development of
the bomb. It was near Oppenheimer's summer

620
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,760
ranch, so we got to be
close to home, and it was remote

621
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,280
enough for the army to keep its
activity secret as best they could. Uh,

622
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,440
not far from Santa Fe. And
actually it's funny is I've been there

623
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:40,320
around Los Alamos, and um,
it's still a big government situation there and

624
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,840
like military wise, I believe or
whatever, R and D and a lot

625
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,960
of them. A lot of those
scientists retire. After they retire, they

626
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,000
stick around because that area is a
really good wine and distillery area. It's

627
00:40:55,039 --> 00:41:00,239
the spent uranium and they so they
open up fucking wineries and ship it and

628
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,480
distilleries and shit. Yeah, it's
like the one where you know you're swiveling

629
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,440
the glass around they put a UV
up to it just blows. Like.

630
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,719
There's a bunch of chemists out there
that just are like retire early because they

631
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,320
get paid pretty well and then make
booze. It's a good wine country.

632
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,639
Actually, there's a lot of good
wine countries. White Sands is just where

633
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:23,519
they set everything off, right.
Yeah, that's a good place to go,

634
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:27,360
I guess. Look, New Mexico
is a fine state to nuke.

635
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,519
I agree. And it's also where
we kind of like in the mountains,

636
00:41:30,519 --> 00:41:36,760
don't we just kind of store all
their radioactive waste. Probably there in Nevada,

637
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,079
I would imagine in the west,
out in the middle of nothing.

638
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:40,840
That's fine, don't know, don't
care, Yeah, just keep it.

639
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:44,559
I mean, look, I'm sure
there will be a suburb there in seventy

640
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:46,559
years, but it's not my problem. A bunch of three eyed, blinky

641
00:41:46,679 --> 00:41:50,800
kids. Yeah, well yeah,
they turned this place in the middle of

642
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,199
nowhere into a massive laboratory with housing
for families and dormitories for single guys,

643
00:41:55,199 --> 00:42:01,639
say, bachelor dorms, kind of
like a little site like physicist frat.

644
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:06,639
Nice. No women though, No, there were women there, No,

645
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:10,719
but no women. I don't think. I don't think they gave as because

646
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:15,400
it would be considered a women That
was not a federal law. That's just

647
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:19,880
that was that thing. That's what
you're referring to. Is it is a

648
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,400
Texas situation? Sound Texas? It
was the thing Florida too, Okay,

649
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,960
there. It depends. I think
it's most states. Uh So, like

650
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,880
any sorority house in America is consider
a broth. You get Look, you

651
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,639
get ten women together, and then
they're all horse legally clip it legally yeah

652
00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:38,079
clip it Yeah, well leg I'm
no lawyer, but they're getting the robs,

653
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:43,920
super clicks women or horse yeah.
Uh way, what was I gonna

654
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,519
say about that, Oh dude,
about either prostos all over the place.

655
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:52,320
Actually, my uh grandma and grandpa
when uh no, I wish that'd be

656
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,880
awesome. There was a prostitute for
then during during World War Two, during

657
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,400
this exact same time period, probably
the same year or even Um, he

658
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,960
had to go up to Idaho.
That was where he was stationed first,

659
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:09,440
like train and shit like that,
and um my grandma like lived in a

660
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:13,920
house right next to the base or
whatever they both did. He was an

661
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:19,920
officer, and um, yeah,
the next door neighbors prostos, like literally

662
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,239
straight up prostitutes. My grandma was
like, they were great neighbors. I

663
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,599
went and borrowed sugar from the months. They were very nice. They had

664
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:31,119
money. They were like, oh, you're George's wife. Yikes. I

665
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:36,039
think your grandma was a madame,
I'd be dope. That would be kind

666
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:37,480
of cool. I would. I
wish that would be amazing. I hope

667
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:44,519
please, Grandma head horror charge.
Yeah h w C. Yeah uh.

668
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,599
This place, though, was essentially
a balls to the wall no work life

669
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:51,639
balance playground for scientists. The six
day work week usually ended with a pretty

670
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:59,199
large party where Oppenheimer made incredibly strong
martinis, But in the bachelor dorms he

671
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:05,599
had a different drink made. He
made he would hijack basically pure laboratory alcohol

672
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,639
ethanol and mix it with pineapple juice, and they'd serve it over dry eyes.

673
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:12,800
Fuck. Yes, I don't know
how you drink that and don't die.

674
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,880
I guess everyone's drinking so much that
it doesn't matter. This man puts

675
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:22,239
fucking eighty cigarettes in his body a
day. He's just he's good. He

676
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,320
is immune. He's putting so much
stuff in his body that his body is

677
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,079
just like nah. He's doing lines
of uranium. He's also getting vitamin C

678
00:44:30,199 --> 00:44:32,039
with that pineapple juice. Yeah,
that's the key. That balance is important.

679
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:38,400
The vitamin C U it no scurvy. So reading about that cocktail made

680
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,199
me read about it popped up Mike
malloy in my head for some reason,

681
00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:46,079
is him drinking the what was it
like the wood wood alcohol wood alcohol?

682
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:51,239
So I was meant to kill him. So turns out if you mix,

683
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,360
if you drink any freeze, which
I think they were having him do or

684
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:59,039
whatever the equivalent was at the time, and then serve someone would alcohol it

685
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:06,440
actually the chemical reaction that it neutralizes
itself. They unpoisoned him. Uh dhried

686
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,280
alcohol is like a way to help
someone. Do we try it? No,

687
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,440
it is a miserable process. Seems
like a Patreon Well boss is some

688
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,599
memes he did do the he did
win the breathalyzer contest a couple of years

689
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:22,360
did Yeah, we'll have boost to
it. We also tried to have him

690
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,719
drink like a forty eight ounce of
Kingdom Kane sauce. I looked it up.

691
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,719
He would have died and HR stopped
that if I told him. I

692
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,599
told Boosh I would give him my
whole paycheck because it was Friday lunch.

693
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,239
And I was like, Boosh,
if you because for whatever reason, we

694
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,519
ordered raising canes and we wanted they
want we want to have cane sauce for

695
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:44,960
the whole office, and this fucking
raising canes just filled a forty eight ounce

696
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,960
with like the extra large soda with
cane sauce, and we were all like

697
00:45:51,039 --> 00:45:53,920
what the fuck man? And so
I just was standing there and I was

698
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,159
like, boosh, if you can
chug that whole thing without throwing up or

699
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:00,039
spilling any of it or whatever,
like other than like a little dribble,

700
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,079
Like I'll give you my whole pay. We just got paid to day.

701
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:07,280
Well, you can get poisoned by
sodium. Yeah, kids have died hazing

702
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:14,039
them. You you die, your
kidney's like shut off. Yeah. Yeah.

703
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:15,960
The Manhattan Project had been sold to
the scientists as the US is only

704
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,519
optioned for defeating a nuclear armed Nazi
Germany, but by nineteen forty four it

705
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:23,000
was clear Germany had no bomb and
the Allies would beat them without the deployment

706
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:28,559
The man didn't have an h bomb. Uh yeah, the Allies might be

707
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:32,400
able to beat them without the deployment
of atomic weapons. But the scientists are

708
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,360
like, please don't do this.
Please. They sent once they figured they

709
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,679
cracked the code on the nuclear bomb
and figured out they could make it,

710
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:46,079
they're like, hey, here's a
petition from all of us, don't use

711
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:51,679
this on Japan. Or Germany or
anybody. Don't use it, don't fucking

712
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,719
drop it. But they were really
like, and if you do, show

713
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:58,840
your hand, that's what they wanted. They wanted a warning shot. They

714
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,559
basically they were like, hey,
you need to say we are going to

715
00:47:00,679 --> 00:47:06,480
drop this on you. It is
a nightmare. Surrender or be warned.

716
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:10,320
Yeah, and you know they were
like, nah, nah, well it

717
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,760
was supposed to that petition was supposed
to go to Truman. I think the

718
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,440
incoming uh I want to say it
was like Secretary of the Interior or something

719
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,920
like that. It was just like, nah, I'm not giving it to

720
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,039
him. D Yeah, It's like
I don't about a letter than nerds.

721
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,880
Fuck that. Yeah, Truman didn't
even go to college, right, Truman

722
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,119
is the last US president to not
aten college, so he's not going to

723
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:35,800
respect them. He also a funny
story about Truman is um, I forget

724
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,880
who. We was saying this to
some White House staff or something. He

725
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,840
was like, me and the missus
like to drink a whiskey, soa,

726
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,119
so make us a whiskey soura.
And they made whiskey sour, which like

727
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:51,599
a normal whiskey sour. And Truman
was like this is terrible. It's weak,

728
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,679
the weak whiskey sowa, send it
back. They don't drink this something

729
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,239
so weak. And so they brought
him out another one. It was like

730
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:04,960
a double it's like this this week, it's terrible. And finally they're like,

731
00:48:05,039 --> 00:48:07,159
I don't I think he knows what
a whiskey sour is. So they

732
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:10,480
just gave a big cup of whiskey
and he was like, that's the spot,

733
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,440
that's the trick. That'll do it. So anytime you'd order a whiskey

734
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,880
sour, they just bring him a
big gulp of whiskey. Yeah, it's

735
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,760
like hit. If Truman went to
Bronch, he asked for mimosa, it

736
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,280
was all champagne. It's like,
probably knives will probably fucking therop. Well

737
00:48:27,079 --> 00:48:30,679
yeah, so uh you know.
After that, on July sixteenth, nineteen

738
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:35,840
forty five, the military successfully detonated
an atomic bomb in the New Mexico Desert.

739
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,320
This would be the first deployment of
a nuclear bomb or weapon in history.

740
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:46,639
The Trinity Test further convinced its witnesses
of their innovations apocalyptic power. Oppenheimer

741
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,159
was reminded of the Hindu verse.
He wrote this later, he did not

742
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:57,159
say this. Now I am become
Death the Destroyer of worlds. So emo.

743
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,840
Yeah. A few weeks later,
bombs would be dropped on Hiroshima Nagasaki,

744
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:06,800
the only two bombs used on people
in history. Unfortunately, Oppenheimer later

745
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:14,159
faced a lot of scandal about his
affiliations with communists, party organizations and communists,

746
00:49:14,199 --> 00:49:17,679
like discussions like when McCarthy gets in
office. Yeah, in the fifties,

747
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,280
basically everything had been recorded for the
most part, but apparently someone had

748
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,760
found out. Someone had come to
Oppenheimer at one point and they're like,

749
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,079
hey, you know, you can
make a fuck ton of money selling your

750
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:31,360
secrets to the Soviets and he's like, no, we absolutely are not doing

751
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:37,800
that. It's treason. Don't ask
me that. Yeah. And and because

752
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,320
he didn't report that and it was
recorded somewhere, they were like, well,

753
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,679
that's shady that you didn't report it. Right, It was his friend

754
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,559
though, right, Okay. There
Actually, amidst all the secrecy of the

755
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:53,840
Los Alamos Manhattan Project location, there
were a couple Soviet assets that got in.

756
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,800
Some people got flipped. I'm sure
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757
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,199
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right, let's get back to the
show and a lot of it too.

884
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Like when you talk about were still
we had assets everywhere. Yeah, it's

885
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:14,320
just a part of the espionage.
We also had our own assets over there.

886
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,559
Oh good lord, we were just
learning how to butt fuck each other

887
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:21,079
in the whole espionage space from each
other. The funny, the funniest part

888
00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:24,360
about the Russia Ukraine wars. It's
the one thing it's like really demonstrated they

889
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:29,760
think is like that the CIA is
still really good at doing Cold War stuff,

890
00:58:30,119 --> 00:58:31,519
Like they're not necessary. There's a
lot of stuff the CIA is not

891
00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:37,360
great at. But man, it's
like they have someone in every Russian office.

892
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:42,400
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if
it's counter too, probably not as

893
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,440
severe, but I you don't know, I don't know, yeh. We

894
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:49,719
definitely have somebody in the Kremlin.
I imagine somebodies I would I would assume,

895
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,400
but who knows. No one knows
that's the thing. It's all fucking

896
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,559
g men, dude, Like,
I don't know anyone that speculum it was

897
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:59,280
what they were there. It's it's
not surprising that they're good at the one

898
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,280
thing they were specifically built to do. Yeah, just spy on Russians,

899
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,079
basically, right, everything else they
had to adapt and learn on the way.

900
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:08,920
But they were built to spy on
Russians, and if they aren't,

901
00:59:09,239 --> 00:59:14,960
it's kind of an indictment of the
organization. Yeah, pretty much. I

902
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,679
mean like, yeah, you want
to get that info. It's like literally,

903
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:20,239
that's all you're here to do,
right, Yeah, it spy on

904
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:24,280
Russians and we start civil wars in
Central America. See that wasn't our initial

905
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,679
that wasn't their initial purviews. So
they're not great at that. They're good

906
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,880
starting them, they're pretty good at
Yeah, it's the chain reaction that we

907
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,639
have a hard time with. Imagine
that you topple government, you know.

908
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:40,480
Yeah, but uh yeah, So
he got a lot of ridicule for being

909
00:59:40,639 --> 00:59:49,360
a communist sympathizer. He'd later go
on to beg people for nuclear weapon proliferation

910
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:52,719
or anti proliferation, whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, he stopped doing

911
00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:53,760
this I wanted to stop making them. And yeah, I mean, but

912
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,400
it's like, dude, you already
kind of let the cat out of the

913
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,599
back. The thing about scientists at
the time, and a lot of them

914
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,679
was like we do who the science, government does the planning. We're separate

915
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:07,519
fields. Everyone stayed in their lane, so respect Also speaking of secrecy too,

916
01:00:07,519 --> 01:00:09,079
though, I mean, people kind
of knew what was going on at

917
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:12,679
List almost to a degree. They're
like, what the fuck are they building

918
01:00:12,719 --> 01:00:16,199
out here? And everyone had the
same PO box address, the secret PO

919
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:21,079
box address, to the point that
people that were conceived and born on that

920
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:24,880
base add the same PO box address
every there's a ton of people from the

921
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,440
same PO box address. Yeah,
but uh yeah. So that's basically kind

922
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:35,880
of the history of Oppenheimer and a
very condensed version of the Manhattan Project.

923
01:00:36,199 --> 01:00:39,079
Kind of want to talk about the
implications though. Two So, while nuclear

924
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:45,000
non proliferation and weapons and a weapons
test ban and the wow, so I

925
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:47,800
guess well, there has been nuclear
non proliferation talks and a weapons test ban

926
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:54,480
from the UN. The bombs we
dropped in Hiroshiba and Nagasaki are fucking nothing

927
01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:59,800
compared to what is available. Oh
yeah, yeah, the stuff today is

928
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,039
in it's fucking insane. Yeah,
like the Yeah, those things are fucking

929
01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:07,119
toys compared to what we can do
now. Yeah, well, after we

930
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:13,360
did the the Fat Man Little Boy
h bombs, Albenheimer's very staunchly against the

931
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,559
development of the bigger bombs, the
hydrogen bombs, right, and he it's

932
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:21,320
like, dude, you did the
thing. You open the box. Man,

933
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:25,119
You're not this was this was the
NonStop chain reaction. Yeah, pretty

934
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:28,360
much. Wasn't that it was gonna
eat all the air or whatever. It's

935
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:34,559
that you're just gonna keep. For
reference, the bombs in Hiroshima Nagasaki had

936
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:38,079
a destructive radius of about one to
one and a half miles. Bombs in

937
01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:44,199
existence today can reach up to forty
just vaporized forty miles. I don't know

938
01:01:44,199 --> 01:01:46,480
if it's totally vaporization, but man, dude, I did so much deep

939
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:50,320
diving on the ship in nuclear bomb
can do like a lot of it.

940
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,760
Actually, one of the most dangerous
things. If you're not like just instantly

941
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:59,280
liquefied or vaporized or whatever is,
buildings just can't. You'll you'll die from

942
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,039
being crushed in a building. Yeah, Yeah, it's like it doesn't.

943
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:07,599
The blast is so intense and the
air displacement is so massive that like moves,

944
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:12,400
it pushes air like around corners and
shit, and like you can just

945
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,280
get sucked through a fucking hole in
your house. Dude. It's nuts.

946
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,159
Like it can make people's brains explode
out of their temples. It can make

947
01:02:19,199 --> 01:02:22,519
their eyes melt like just because of
the pressure displacement, right right, It's

948
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:25,480
it's wild. I don't have enough
time to talk about what's the best defense,

949
01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:30,599
Like a giant an underground bucker,
a bunker, or like a like

950
01:02:30,639 --> 01:02:35,800
a fully concrete Oh man, Yeah, you would need like a concrete,

951
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:42,400
fucking shit brick house that's like able
to withstand three times as much as normal

952
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,000
building is in pressure displacement. Um, it's just not something that's practical to

953
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:49,800
build. So like now I'll just
go back to my bunker. There are

954
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,840
a lot of bunkers underground. Just
duck and cover. Yeah, just get

955
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,320
under your desk, Yeah, close
your eyes, jock and combat. Yeah.

956
01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:00,360
The fermiica molds itself with the radiation
into a little cocoon for the children.

957
01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:04,199
Yeah, but yeah, same thing
works in school shootings. Now.

958
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:08,639
Duck and cover. Yeah, it
isn't it like run hide fight. Isn't

959
01:03:08,679 --> 01:03:13,400
that the like run if you can't
if you can't hide, and that doesn't

960
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:16,639
try and kill him. Well,
maybe the Cold War school children should have

961
01:03:16,719 --> 01:03:22,599
used the gen Z Millennial school children
um tactic, which is, when you

962
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:25,960
get nuked, just play debt.
You know what I mean, As the

963
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:29,840
nuke is approaching, play dead and
you know they'll be like, I already

964
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,239
got this one. Is that a
tactic for kids now to pretend to be

965
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,920
Dan? Yeah, they do that
a lot, some little girl of all

966
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,800
day. It was just like laid
in a puddle of blood, not Jesus's

967
01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:45,719
Welcome to our comedy podcast. This
is a comedy podcast, pretty savvy for

968
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:51,039
like what a second grade or something. Yeah, well let's get into some

969
01:03:51,079 --> 01:03:52,760
wu wu shit. Let's get into
it. What about his sex shit?

970
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,920
His sex shit. He was a
flanderer, he slept around. He's just

971
01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:04,960
tossing that he didn't have a personality. He was so he's some girls a

972
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,280
little girls like little weirdos. That's
true. Look look at the bear.

973
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,800
Right the bear came out, Everyone's
like, oh, this tortured, Like

974
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,400
I like the first season in the
Bear, but I keep trying to watch

975
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,519
the second season. I keep falling
asleep. Oh, you'll get there,

976
01:04:18,679 --> 01:04:24,280
it'll get back to king. Yeah, it's definitely slower peace, but anyway,

977
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:29,679
that's not important. You're forgetting they
were drinking with laboratory grade alcohol.

978
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,800
People are getting laid, dude.
Okay, yeah, come on, come

979
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,440
on, everyone's getting No one could
say no it was it was nineteen forty

980
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:44,800
He looks. Then they're just slapping
on each other's generals. Yeah, it

981
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,119
turns out no one was actually getting
lad. They were just painting each other.

982
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,599
That what if that was just he
just lays down and they're like,

983
01:04:50,639 --> 01:04:53,280
what are you do to me,
babe? What do you want to want

984
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,199
me to do to you? Baby? And he's just like, you want

985
01:04:57,199 --> 01:05:02,239
me to draw like one of your
French girls or no, wu shit,

986
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:08,559
time you're ready. Yeah. So
I was looking at the time frame of

987
01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:12,480
when the first bomb was launched,
and that's like July nineteen forty five.

988
01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:20,079
We virtually do not have like larger
than like debunking UFO sightings until two years

989
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:25,000
after that in Roswell almost exactly.
Well, there's two other sightings, but

990
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:30,880
the main like big one after that
is Roswell. Nothing really happens after that

991
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,400
first before that first bomb is dropped, we start seeing alien showing up about

992
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,199
two years after, and we have
to crash in roswell two years later,

993
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:43,719
almost to the date. Now,
closest star with planets is Proxima Centauri,

994
01:05:44,519 --> 01:05:47,440
and that's about four light years away. If we're suspending disbelief for a minute,

995
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:53,880
skepticism, if there's aliens that can
travel, they probably can get closer

996
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:59,400
and see a reaction like that before
it gets to their home planet. You

997
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,320
can probably detect that shit. So
I'm thinking, like, what if the

998
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:08,000
whole UAP situation was like, what
if this thing we made to fucking kill

999
01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:13,679
each other was kind of like a
beacon to every other intelligent species that had

1000
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,079
higher capabilities. They were just like, whoa, what was that? The

1001
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:21,239
fucking monkeys did that? Yeah,
the monkeys, the little still flying with

1002
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:26,559
little spinny things on their on their
flying machines that are using the dinosaur juice

1003
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:30,119
to make their cars go around,
they did that shoot metal at each other.

1004
01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:36,079
And yeah, I think I think
it's insane, the like the amount

1005
01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:40,679
of UFO stings that happened two years
after the atomic bomb, and maybe that's

1006
01:06:40,719 --> 01:06:44,079
you know, our understanding of science
changes. Yeah, perhaps our own technology.

1007
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:46,559
Perhaps our own technology too, you
know, maybe that, but that's

1008
01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:50,280
just my little woo WU think.
Did we make contact inadvertently outwardly? That

1009
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,480
is the premise of Star Trek First
Contact kind of Oh is it because he

1010
01:06:55,559 --> 01:07:00,199
develops um light speed? I think? And then that is the signal to

1011
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,719
the whatever federation. I don't know
what it is in Star Trek. That's

1012
01:07:03,719 --> 01:07:09,119
also the plot to Self Park the
Pine with Derby Yes race, Yeah,

1013
01:07:09,199 --> 01:07:13,280
yeah, they make a nuke the
talk of the ship's ice cream. No,

1014
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,559
no, no, they make a
fucking what is it called a pine

1015
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:19,679
with Derby car. Oh when it
breaks the yeah, it goes light speed.

1016
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,960
Yeah yeah, it goes faster than
light And so they're like, oh,

1017
01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:27,800
we're here. That is directly from
Star Trek First Contact. Yeah of

1018
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,079
course, so um yeah. So
then they're like, oh they're ready,

1019
01:07:31,199 --> 01:07:34,079
Yeah, exactly. Well that's all
I got for today, guys. I

1020
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:38,119
just want to do a quick little
glaze over how weird of Oppenheimer was.

1021
01:07:38,159 --> 01:07:41,400
Did he live to a ripe old
age? He looked pretty long, I

1022
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,679
think. How was he regarded by
the rest of the country. Did he

1023
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,760
die a hero I'll tell you,
especially after Japan's as you say, did

1024
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:58,039
he die, he did? Openheimer
a hero? Probably not? Is heroic

1025
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:00,559
actions of stopping World War two and
trying to stop an armstrace makes him a

1026
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:04,119
hero. Um. But you said, like McCarthy tried to drag his name

1027
01:08:04,159 --> 01:08:06,920
with the communism. Yeah, he
tried to drag everyone though. Yeah,

1028
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:12,320
Hollywood, I don't think he hasn't
McCarthy. J Edgar Hoover was doing that

1029
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,479
ship too. They were, they
were in cahoots. That was the distraction

1030
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:24,079
from him being a drag queen,
which is boym af Yeah. How old

1031
01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:27,119
was he though? That's another question
too, you know, I kind of

1032
01:08:27,159 --> 01:08:30,199
I just want to know how long? All right? Sixty two? He

1033
01:08:30,199 --> 01:08:32,640
smoked four packs a day. That's
pretty good for four packs since he bumped

1034
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,840
it up to seven after the bomb. Well that makes sense. Yeah,

1035
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:43,439
but uh yeah, So who's today's
Hitler? Hitler? It's Hitler, It's

1036
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,640
Hitler. No, um, whoever
called him a communist? Yeah, Oppenhammer

1037
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:51,760
didn't split the atom. So those
two dudes that did, I guess they

1038
01:08:53,119 --> 01:08:56,920
Okay, actually they they wrote the
equation or yeah, but they put it

1039
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,399
out into the world. Yeah.
So that's actually an interesting point. You

1040
01:08:59,399 --> 01:09:01,119
make Dan win and they figured that
out. A lot of people are like,

1041
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,159
throw it out, Yeah, throw
it away, published that shit.

1042
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:08,439
No, a lot of people like, don't do it. And I think

1043
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,159
one of them is like, I'm
not gonna not get credit for this,

1044
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:17,119
right, It's like I did it, Like we discovered that's first a couple

1045
01:09:17,119 --> 01:09:20,199
of years ago, and yeah,
it's like it's gonna happen. A bunch

1046
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:24,600
of people are studying this shit,
and yeah, so cats, the cat

1047
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,760
is out of the bag. Though
every country had some sort of like maybe

1048
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,239
we should make one of these moments, like the Soviets, we're banking,

1049
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:32,800
um, they're trying to make them. The Japanese they thought we're trying to

1050
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,319
make them too, And so that
kind of pressure of the knowledge being out

1051
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:39,279
there, definitely gotta sucking work.
Let's go, let's go, and we're

1052
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:42,800
really good at that. Under the
gun. We're great. We're really good

1053
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,279
under the gun. I will say
that as far as Ingenuity is concerned as

1054
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:47,159
a country. Now he wasn't a
part of the project. But why was

1055
01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:53,439
Einstein always connected with this man?
He wrote a letter warning about the Germans

1056
01:09:54,119 --> 01:10:00,560
and Heisenberg. I believe, and
he was just I think genuinely generally considered

1057
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,079
to be like the smartest guy alive
at the time, like Stephen Hawking the

1058
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:09,159
fucking maybe he was like a consultant. Yeah. Yeah. He wrote a

1059
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:13,800
letter to President Roosevelt in thirty nine
warning of possible German nuclear weapons research and

1060
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,279
proposing that the United States begin its
own research into atomic energy. He kind

1061
01:10:16,279 --> 01:10:18,239
of gave our country to kick in
the ass, like, hey, they

1062
01:10:18,279 --> 01:10:25,119
already got Heisenberg's over there doing this
shit. And dude, Heisenberg too was

1063
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:28,920
just such a like I don't want
all the bad, all the good scientists

1064
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,600
leave Germany. It's still Germany.
Like he's like someone's got to stick around.

1065
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,319
We can't have a brain drain,
and so like that's his thing.

1066
01:10:34,359 --> 01:10:36,760
He's like, fuck these Nazis,
but I gotta do this for Germany.

1067
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,640
Right. It's like, oh man, I I almost can kind of see

1068
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,000
it in a way because it's like
you do have probably this national pride.

1069
01:10:45,119 --> 01:10:47,680
Yeah, but it's like, bro, it's gone. It's kind of like

1070
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:53,159
Roberty Lee almost and yeah, yeah, he's like I gotta stick around for

1071
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,560
you gotta. You do have to
give some credit to Heisenberg. He did

1072
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,079
fucking slow walk it. Really,
he did as little as possible without being

1073
01:11:02,079 --> 01:11:04,800
detected. Nice one seems like getting
too He's like, I don't want these

1074
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,880
guys having it. Yeah, it
seemed pretty wacky. Did he get put

1075
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:13,640
on trial for grimes? I don't
survived the war. I don't know.

1076
01:11:14,239 --> 01:11:16,920
This is just Jake Google stuff.
Yeah, part of the episode, um

1077
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:21,359
Heisenberg. Yeah, let's see here. I don't know if he was like

1078
01:11:21,359 --> 01:11:24,920
put on trial or not. What
do you do? Though? And he

1079
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,560
died in February first, nineteen seventy
six, so I do not think he

1080
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,439
was put on trial for Yeah,
he was just like I guarantee you he

1081
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,119
was interrogated quite a bit. Yeah, But also like if you think about

1082
01:11:33,159 --> 01:11:38,039
it, like a lot of these
people weren't really given a choice. It

1083
01:11:38,199 --> 01:11:41,600
was like you can either do this
or be thrown in jail following orders.

1084
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,319
Jake, Well, I mean sure, yeah, but also like a lot

1085
01:11:45,359 --> 01:11:48,800
easier said than done, dude.
But also like he's the only one that

1086
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,039
really knows how it works, so
he can just be like, oh,

1087
01:11:51,119 --> 01:11:57,960
yeah it's going, but it's planet's
under sixty deg these out, it's Zveka

1088
01:11:58,039 --> 01:12:00,760
sloatoms and and you know, all
the Nazis are just gonna be like,

1089
01:12:01,119 --> 01:12:06,119
oh god damn sixty fuck okay,
and then I'm like, oh god damn

1090
01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:10,680
it. All right, well the
card I guess I don't know, like

1091
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,359
that's what they do, you know
what I mean? And like you could

1092
01:12:12,359 --> 01:12:14,399
just tell them what if you're the
head of it, guy, if you're

1093
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,359
the head of it. But it
sounds like from what Jake said, that's

1094
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,319
kind of what he did. Yeah, so yeah, they slow walking in

1095
01:12:19,359 --> 01:12:24,680
weird ways where they're just like fuck
damn. Yeah. And also they were

1096
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,199
really strafford resources too. I mean
I don't think, I mean you could

1097
01:12:28,199 --> 01:12:32,520
really get there's a reason for example
that like even now, like it's fucking

1098
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:39,439
twenty twenty three when those episode is
being recorded and there are most countries don't

1099
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,359
have nuclear weapons. Yeah, and
it's not because they don't know how.

1100
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,199
It's they know how. But it's
like we know how that ship gets made

1101
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:47,600
too. Yeah, and we're tracking
that ship. Yeah, Like it's like

1102
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,960
like it is a yeah, we
don't allow it though I know we don't

1103
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,800
allow it. But there's also a
certain amount of there's nine you need there's

1104
01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:00,720
nine countries. It's US, Russia, China, India, UK, say,

1105
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,960
France, India, Pakistan, Israel, North Korea, South Korea as

1106
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:09,720
well. No, South Africa should
I'll be on that list. I believe

1107
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:13,399
this says twenty twenty three. These
are the only nine countries South Africa had

1108
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,600
some. I thought I ran died. No, they're trying, They're trying.

1109
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,479
Yeah, they don't have them yet
though South Africa have nuclear weapons.

1110
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:24,960
Um not according to Google ended it's
nuclear weapons program in nineteen eighty nine.

1111
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,880
That doesn't even know what happen that
they might have had them and then punted

1112
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,439
them like we gotta handle a parttie
first, yeah, or well, we

1113
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:36,119
don't want these blacks to get these
nukes. Fucking a dude, seriously,

1114
01:13:36,199 --> 01:13:39,560
right, that was when apartheid was
ending, was like eighty nine nine.

1115
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,399
They're like, God, don't,
don't, don't lay mendelic at the nukes.

1116
01:13:43,399 --> 01:13:49,560
Now wait did that that's some interesting
timing. Uh, we just figured

1117
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:55,159
out fw clerks of the presence of
lear because Nelson gets out of jail.

1118
01:13:55,199 --> 01:14:00,279
He's like, God forgives, I
don't only God forgives. Yeah, um,

1119
01:14:00,319 --> 01:14:05,920
but yeah, so what'd you learn? Um, Abenhaber was definitely weirder

1120
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,680
than I thought. Yeah, that
is, that's kind of just scratch on

1121
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,960
the surface. Team. I mean, he did come off that weird.

1122
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,680
He just kind of came off like
a nerd. I don't know the fuck

1123
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,279
thing. The train car bid four
four packs a day, choking his friend

1124
01:14:19,279 --> 01:14:23,640
when he told he liked tobacco.
He liked to smoke, nothing wrong with

1125
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,520
that, He had his vices.
He'd liked to watch people get down and

1126
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,760
dirty, actually didn't. He didn't
like that. He was trying to read

1127
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,439
a book on throwmo dynamics and he
gave her a little kiss after he was

1128
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:38,119
clearly into it at he was just
so fucking horny. He was a full

1129
01:14:38,119 --> 01:14:42,239
erection. And think about this,
dude, like we could go home right

1130
01:14:42,279 --> 01:14:45,880
now and watch people fuck for the
next the rest of our lives. Yeah,

1131
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:51,119
right, this is probably the first
time he's ever seen two people fuck.

1132
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,920
Maybe he's fucked at this point,
but he's never seen two other people

1133
01:14:54,920 --> 01:15:00,399
fuck. He's a voyor so this
is in the car they started easy.

1134
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,439
This is crazy for him. This
is opening up a new kink for him.

1135
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,479
Like now for me, like everything's
a sex club with this guy.

1136
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,600
Yeah. I mean when I go
to Rob's too and he doesn't know him

1137
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,399
there, but yeah, same situation. Make a third, we're in the

1138
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,279
attic. Make that's where i'd be. Jake's there too. Okay, that's

1139
01:15:17,279 --> 01:15:20,399
fine, boost me up. But
yeah, guys, thanks so much for

1140
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:27,439
listening. That's our show. Oh
well, robb Ler and he was more

1141
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,079
of a weirder than he thought.
Did I learn anything? Yeah? What'd

1142
01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:34,079
you learn throughout your research? Um? Dude, there was like a twenty

1143
01:15:34,079 --> 01:15:38,319
three page document of all is weird
shit? I just picked out the choice

1144
01:15:38,319 --> 01:15:42,319
snugs um because I also wanted to
talk about the project in my own wou

1145
01:15:42,359 --> 01:15:45,239
bullshit. Yeah, but yeah,
man, I'm trying to think of anything

1146
01:15:45,239 --> 01:15:47,680
else I learned. Oh something else
I learned that was pretty funny. Uh.

1147
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,760
I think it was FDR or maybe
it was. I think it was

1148
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:57,159
FDR. Hated the term heavy water. It weird. Isn't out It's bad

1149
01:15:57,199 --> 01:16:00,000
Brandon. He was like, I
don't like it is heavy water. Yeah,

1150
01:16:00,199 --> 01:16:03,840
call it the juice. That's what
he referred to heavy one. That's

1151
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:09,359
the original juice, the juice.
It's like, call it the juice,

1152
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,520
sir. I'm a braid to report
to you the Nazis, they have the

1153
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,159
juice. They have the juice,
and there's there is a hole that puts

1154
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:19,199
a whole new mean into OJ's nick
name. Now, if someone wants to

1155
01:16:19,239 --> 01:16:23,720
do an episode on the plot for
the Nazis to get the Norwegian heavy water,

1156
01:16:24,039 --> 01:16:27,880
yeah, and the lengths that other
governments went to get the heavy water

1157
01:16:28,039 --> 01:16:30,319
out, just get the fun out
of Norway. It was a it was

1158
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:34,720
a multi ally thing episode. I
could do it. Yeah, that's I'll

1159
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,199
keep that in the chamber. But
that is a fucking crazy one too.

1160
01:16:38,279 --> 01:16:41,239
It's just like this is like nine
pages worth of content on its own.

1161
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,600
Um yeah, that's our show.
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1162
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,640
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1163
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:51,079
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1164
01:16:51,159 --> 01:16:55,800
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1165
01:16:55,880 --> 01:17:00,079
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1166
01:17:00,119 --> 01:17:02,800
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1167
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:10,119
voicemail apps, Uh five one two, we know that much. It's five

1168
01:17:10,199 --> 01:17:13,920
one two. Just put it in
a note, Jake one F three five

1169
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,079
one, two, nine, eight, one five one for three. It

1170
01:17:15,119 --> 01:17:17,880
isn't a note. It just wasn't
open. Remember it before I got it?

1171
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:24,239
Question tell us we're Q. Yeah, ask us history questions. We

1172
01:17:24,319 --> 01:17:26,960
love answering your hypothetical and we need
more to be able to do it this

1173
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,920
week, so please call in five
one two nine eight one five one four

1174
01:17:30,079 --> 01:17:31,239
three. We like to do it
every other week. Yeah, but we

1175
01:17:31,239 --> 01:17:33,520
didn't do it last week. So
it's your first time listening. Thank you

1176
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:38,159
for tuning in. Hopefully you'll learn
something before you go watch the movie.

1177
01:17:38,319 --> 01:17:41,479
Yeah, go see Barbie two.
Obviously, go see barb Yeah, see

1178
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,560
Barbie. That's that is the post
nuclear winter reality we will live in when

1179
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,399
all the bombs go off. The
pink saccharin Halcyon nightmare that you will get

1180
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,720
post nuclear I think your last second
of life when you're being nuked looks like

1181
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,560
Barbie. Yeah, like everything just
goes. All the DMT in your brain

1182
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,039
gets released, and you become Army's
just Cindi Lauper and you're a little plastic

1183
01:18:02,079 --> 01:18:06,359
boy. M Yeah. Well,
as always for Dan Register from Ron Fox,

1184
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:10,119
MJ. Goleman, you just got
self served.