WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.640 --> 00:00:03.799 Hey, it's Jennifer Jones. Lee. You're listening to KFI, a M 2 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:10.960 six forty wake up call on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Tuesdays aren't so 3 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:18.719 bad when they start with Jennifer Jones. Late. Here she is with your 4 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:29.679 morning wake up call. Tyler stopped yawning. Sorry, it's the heck of 5 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:32.719 a way to start at Tuesday. I look at you know, we're all 6 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:36.359 in different rooms, right, So I look over at the sort of just 7 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:40.359 imagine a zoom screen where you have all these little squares, and I look 8 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:43.840 over in the square. Tyler's potting me up. I can see it. 9 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:49.200 So starting music's on, and all of a sudden, there's this big yawn. 10 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:54.600 It's fantastic, did you guy? Her announcer Guys say, Tuesdays aren't 11 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:59.240 so bad when you have Jennifer Jones A liar, jen Oh, ouch, 12 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:03.239 give me come in there and give you a hug or you need. I'm 13 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:07.640 just gonna say some coffee, So I got some no nos in my purse. 14 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.799 I did just take my first sip of coffee. So hopefully the honest 15 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:15.079 stop soon. Oh my gosh, all right, I hope you're Monday or 16 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:19.959 Tuesday. Whoa Tuesday. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, maybe maybe 17 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:23.959 I do. It's going better than Tyler's. I's all right, so far, 18 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:27.879 so good. Weird amount well, my voice is weird, by the 19 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:33.159 way, this morning, I've no idea, and weird weather this morning. 20 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:38.959 Got out in the car and it was full on, heavy, heavy drizzle 21 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:42.879 and even like a couple of showers on my way in this morning. And 22 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:47.280 I did not see that in the forecast yesterday. But that's what we have 23 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:49.840 this morning. So winschild wiper time. And I know, I just keep 24 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:53.000 thinking to myself, it's May. I know, May Gray, June Gloom. 25 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:57.519 I got it, weather forecasters. But still kind of odd when you're 26 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.719 hitting eighties later in the day. That's kind of our forecast anyway for you 27 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:05.000 and some of the stories we're watching for your wake up call on this Tuesday. 28 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:08.719 A former LAPD officer charged with sexually abusing four boys at his home in 29 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:17.520 Covina has died while in custody. The Dodgers have repented and reinvited the Sisters 30 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:24.360 of Perpetual Indulgence to Pride Night at Dodger Stadium after they uninvited them. So 31 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:28.960 weird and a judge has given a man thirty years to life in prison for 32 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:34.080 speeding one hundred thirty eight miles per hour during a duy crash and irvine that 33 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.080 killed two women. And remember that time that we talked with Karen Travers about 34 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:43.560 progress being made on the debt talk the debt ceiling limit between the President and 35 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:49.560 House Speaker McCarthy. We're gonna do that same thing again with her this morning, 36 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:52.360 but we'll see what the progress is this time. Let's start with some 37 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:54.560 of these stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. There's a 38 00:02:54.560 --> 00:03:00.560 former LAPD officer who was charged with sexually abusing four boys at his home in 39 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:05.159 Covina. He has died while in custody. The La County Sheriff's Department says 40 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:09.719 Paul Razzo died Saturday of medical complications. He was arrested earlier this month and 41 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:14.960 charged with eight counts of ludacts on a child. He was scheduled to appear 42 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.599 in court for his arraignment multiple days last week, but the hearing kept getting 43 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:23.560 delayed. Prosecutors say Razzo abused the kids from two thousand and six to twenty 44 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:30.360 seventeen. The Dodgers have repented. They have reinvited the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence 45 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:34.280 to Pride Night at Dodger Stadium. So the team caught a lot of heat 46 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:39.400 from the LGBTQ Plus and civil rights group as well as politicians when the nuns 47 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:46.560 were uninvited under pressure from conservative Catholic groups. The Dodgers have apologized. The 48 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:50.719 sisters say they will be honored to get the Community Hero Award that they were 49 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:54.159 originally set to receive. I don't know if you've seen this, but THEIRS 50 00:03:54.199 --> 00:04:00.800 security video that is on all over the place this morning, they captured the 51 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:05.000 moment when a sedan crashed through this sushi restaurant in Studio City. The video 52 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:09.680 shows smoke coming out of the car as a person climbs out of the passenger 53 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:14.520 side and then kind of stumbles into the restaurant. The LAFD sent a search 54 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:17.199 and rescue team yesterday to help remove the car from inside the restaurant. No 55 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:23.040 one was actually hurt in that crash. A judge has given a man thirty 56 00:04:23.079 --> 00:04:26.959 years to life in prison for speeding one hundred thirty eight miles an hour during 57 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:30.519 a dui crash and Irvine that killed two women They're not statistics. These are 58 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.920 real human beings who had their lives and the lives of their loved ones shattered 59 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:38.839 because of the selfish decision of someone to get behind the wheel after they've been 60 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:43.399 drinking. Orange County DA's kimberly Ed says Norman Martin had been warned he was 61 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:47.399 too drunk to drive in twenty seventeen, before squeezing two women into the two 62 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:51.480 seater, the corvette slammed into a median, ejecting everyone from the car. 63 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:57.160 The judge said Friday, the speed was incredible and caused terrific injuries at the 64 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:02.519 scene, which looked like an airplane. Forecasters says so Cal could get hit 65 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:06.879 by heavy rain with the return of El Nino. I think we need to 66 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:13.639 have El Nino music every time that there's an El Nino reference. Doesn't it 67 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:18.319 sound like us but ghetti western kind of music? Woo. The National Weather 68 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:24.600 Services doctor Dean David DeWitt, Sorry David, says rising temperatures in the tropical 69 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:29.920 Pacific oceans show El Nino coming in is different and the practical reality is that 70 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:35.079 forecast on this timescale are probabilistic and just because you have an El Nino doesn't 71 00:05:35.120 --> 00:05:41.240 mean you're guaranteed an outcome. California is already preparing for major flooding for melting 72 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:45.319 snow, and more rain could only add to the overflow. If El Nino 73 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:50.600 does hit, forecasters say will start this fall and last through the spring. 74 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:54.560 Hey, Karen Travers, good morning. Remember that one time that you and 75 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:59.439 I talked about the debt ceiling negotiations between President Biden and how Speaker McCarthy, 76 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:01.959 and they said things were productive. I feel like, yogi Berra, you 77 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:08.639 know, like, let's do this again, days a vo all over again. 78 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:12.959 Yeah, I mean productive. That is exactly what McCarthy said about the 79 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:16.120 meeting. It's what the President said in a statement after the meeting. McCarthy 80 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:19.920 also said that he thought the tone was better than any other time. It 81 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:24.120 was the best meeting yet. So you know, that's good. That's why 82 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:28.360 everybody's kind of, you know, clinging to these little glimmers of optimism and 83 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:31.800 hope after the meeting that they could reach a deal. But they haven't done 84 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:36.079 it yet, and the clock is ticking, and the differences are still very 85 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:42.600 significant, even though McCarthy's kind of describing it as philosophical differences, philosophical, 86 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:46.079 but very deep. They are still the same differences, Republicans saying that in 87 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:50.120 order to raise the dead ceiling, the President has to agree to significant spending 88 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:57.600 cuts and also work requirements for federal aid programs. The President putting new taxes 89 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:02.319 on wealthy Americans and closing tax loopholes on corporations as part of these negotiations, 90 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:06.480 saying it's not just spending cuts but raising revenue that has to be a part 91 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:11.759 of the deficit conversation. So they are still far apart, Yet at the 92 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:15.240 same time, there's a lot of optimism that at least the tone and tenor 93 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:19.519 of the meeting changed and they feel like they inched closer to an agreement. 94 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:25.199 The President also said they again said that default is off the table, so 95 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:28.720 that's good, but again they have to figure out how to get to the 96 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.639 details to make sure that the default doesn't happen. I think I feel like 97 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:35.959 I hear this clock ticking every time we say debt ceiling. You hear like 98 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:41.639 the tick in the background as we get closer to June first. I always 99 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:45.399 feel like you can kind of take some cues from Janet Yellen. Has she 100 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:49.759 said anything about how she feels about the negotiations, or has anyone of sort 101 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:55.079 of her caliber or from the Treasury Department or anything like that sort of given 102 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.759 any hints that yeah, they too think we're close to a deal and that 103 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:03.959 we won't have to default. She's not weighing in on the state of negotiations, 104 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:09.639 but what she is doing is continuing to issue warnings, and yesterday she 105 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:16.040 sent another letter before the President's meeting with McCarthy two Speaker McCarthy and other congressional 106 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:22.079 leaders, again underlining that June first deadline, saying this is urgent, and 107 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:26.120 also in that letter said you know, you guys need to act, but 108 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:31.439 also reminded them that you know, back in two eleven, there was a 109 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:35.840 deal reached, there wasn't a default, but there still was a credit downgrade 110 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:41.879 after the agreement was reached because there was so much uncertainty and concern about the 111 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:48.600 process and the upheaval and dysfunction in Washington. And the warning from her yesterday 112 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:52.120 was like, as you get closer and closer to the June first deadline, 113 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:56.519 the concern about the lack of progress, the concern about waiting to the last 114 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:03.440 minute, could spark those same reactions on Wall Street and the potential of a 115 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.120 credit downgrade. All right, well, let's keep our fingers crossed that the 116 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:11.879 tone and the tenor continues to be positive and that they can every day inch 117 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:13.679 a little forward. And I'm sure we'll be talking more about this with you 118 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:18.519 tomorrow. Have a great day. Hey you two, Karen, see you 119 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:24.720 later. ABC's Karen Travers. I mean anytime that you can say things are 120 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:30.879 positive, Okay, I like that. But at the same time, so 121 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:35.759 what, right, it's we're in the same spot we were yesterday. Just 122 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:41.679 maybe what one step closer. I don't know. I'm going to be my 123 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:46.159 unhandled self and say that that's a glass half full kind of thing, right, 124 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:48.799 even though handle would say it's a glass half empty because of the fact 125 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:52.960 that still there is no resolution. Let's get back to some of the stories 126 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.399 coming out of the KFI twenty four hour news room. Oh, I was 127 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:01.279 standing in my driveway last night talking to my two neighbors, and I had 128 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:07.279 my phone on the hood of my car. And as Stephanie and Natalie and 129 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:09.720 I were standing out there talking, all of a sudden, I see something 130 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:13.039 flash on my phone. And these certain flashes, if they come across have 131 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:18.600 to really pay attention to them because means big deal. But it was a 132 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.200 big, bad deal because the Nuggets defeated the Lakers in Game four of the 133 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:31.519 NBA Western Conference Finals at Crypto dot Com Arena. The final score sucked was 134 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:35.799 one thirteen one eleven. Lebron scored forty points. Come on now. Denver 135 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:39.519 now goes on to the NBA Finals for the first time in franchise history. 136 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:46.159 The Nuggets will play either the Heat or the Celtics. A felony child abuse 137 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.759 charge has been filed against an LA County Sheriff's deputy accused of punishing his five 138 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:56.919 year old son. The LA County Day's Office says Jim Devot allegedly hit the 139 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:01.279 boy last month and then lied to the boy's mom about what caused his injuries. 140 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:05.440 He said the boy just fell off his bike. The boy's lawyer says 141 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:13.519 his client did not abuse his son and loves both his boys. What is 142 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:16.840 that? That's a guy who was on video going after people with a pickaxe. 143 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.600 I guess one will do in Lake Forest. Well, that guy's been 144 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:26.519 arrested. Security video also shows the man crash a car into a home before 145 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:31.679 he breaks down the front door. Then uses this pickaxe to break down the 146 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:41.000 bedroom door to get it one of his old roommates. Wow. I mean, 147 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:45.559 I've had some issues with roommates in the past, and I've thought about 148 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.600 doing stuff like this. Don't get me wrong, when's the last time you 149 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:52.360 took a pickaxe after you crashed your car into your ex roommate's house. Apparently 150 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:56.799 there was a struggle, that guy said, and when it was screaming, 151 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:00.960 helped me said he thought he was gonna die. Sheriff's deeputy use less than 152 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:05.519 lethal force to arrest the attacking roommate. California, Nevada, and Arizona have 153 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.960 agreed to cut back on water usage from the Colorado River. The Biden administration 154 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:13.720 says it will pay over one billion dollars to cities, tribes, and farmers 155 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:20.679 collectively for conserving the water. Western resource advocates John Bergran says the incentive is 156 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:24.519 a good start, but it isn't enough. We've been using too much of 157 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.799 the Colora River. There's more rights on paper to the color River than the 158 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:35.120 river actually supplies. Governor Knewsom announced the plan yesterday, saying the entire Western 159 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.679 United States is on the front lines of climate change. Chris Adler ki FI 160 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:43.200 News. And finally, do you remember that story I told you yesterday about 161 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:48.080 that dog that was stung hundreds of times by bees? Remember they said that 162 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:54.120 they think that the dog was it was stung. I guess seven hundred times. 163 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.440 That dog has died. The two year old pitbull Mastiff was attack last 164 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:03.399 week when a neighbor in Lake Matthews that's in Riverside County, tried to take 165 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.559 a beehive down that was on his fence. Be experts say aggressive behavior from 166 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:16.080 bees is unusual and that really be's only attack if they are disturbed. That 167 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.399 was a driver who crashed a U Haul truck into a security barrier outside the 168 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:22.960 White House. This guy says he thought someone might need help last night when 169 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.759 he first saw the crash. I saw the truck then back up and then 170 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:33.840 proceeded to crash into the barrier a second time, at which case it seemed 171 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.639 like this was not just a coincidence. It seemed like maybe something more. 172 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:41.399 Yeah, when somebody hits something and then they put it in reverse and hit 173 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:46.639 it again, that's something more. The U Haul driver was arrested on suspicion 174 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.919 of threatening to kill, kidnap, or inflict harm on the president, vice 175 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:54.480 president or a family member. There was a Nazi flag, a black backpack, 176 00:13:56.159 --> 00:14:01.679 and a roll of duct tape found inside the truck. I don't know 177 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:05.080 why we had to know the black backpack part, but whatever. People picking 178 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:09.600 up a diploma this week can also pick up some free donuts. Krispy Kreme 179 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:13.639 is offering all twenty twenty three college in high school grads a free dozen donuts 180 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:20.399 tomorrow, one on eighth graders? Why are they left out? So all 181 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.399 you have to do to get your free donut is walk into a Krispy Kreme 182 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:28.720 wearing something showing that you're graduating, like your cap and gown. What are 183 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:33.440 you driving around with your cap and gown in your car? Or you can 184 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.000 just have a class of twenty twenty three t shirt to qualify. Let's say 185 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.879 good morning now to ABC's and Nez dela Kuta. Since two thousand and seven, 186 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:46.639 I remember when the story first broke reporting on it, and Portuguese police 187 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:52.120 are saying that they are going to resume the search for Madeleine McCann and Nez. 188 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.159 Good morning, walk us back through. There might be people listening this 189 00:14:54.240 --> 00:14:56.360 morning that are like, oh my gosh, yeah, what was it again 190 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:01.639 that happened to that little girl? Hey, good morning, yeah, really, 191 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.559 said Astory. You'll remember Madeline McCann, that three year old little British 192 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.679 girl who was on vacation with her parents in the south of Portugal back in 193 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.200 two thousand and seven when she disappeared. So what happened was is her parents 194 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.919 had left her and her two siblings alone in the apartments they were staying in 195 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.399 and they went out for dinner with friends, and the group of adults had 196 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:26.279 decided to set up a kind of rotation to go and check in on the 197 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:28.440 children, and so every hour or so, a different adult would go and 198 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:33.480 check in on the kids. And so Madeline's dad and around nine pm went 199 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:37.240 in and you know, took a look around and everything seemed to be fine. 200 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.600 All three children were there. An hour later, her mother at ten 201 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:43.320 pm went into the apartment to do the same thing, and Madeline at that 202 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:48.399 point had disappeared. There were very few kind of traces it was, you 203 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:52.600 know, I mean, the case was never solved. And again this was 204 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:54.440 back in two thousand and seven. Madeline was three, she would have been 205 00:15:54.440 --> 00:16:03.000 twenty years old as of last month, and Portuguese police now reopening the search, 206 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.000 renewing their efforts to find Madeline McCann. They're actually starting a three day 207 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:11.720 search of a reservoir in the area close to where she was last seen. 208 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:15.440 They are searching both the kind of land the ground around that reservoir, and 209 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:21.759 there are also divers that are that are searching the waters. That reservoir was 210 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:25.320 searched once in the past, back in two thousand and eight, but nothing 211 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.879 really came out of it. But that they are reopening the search, and 212 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:33.440 we should point out that this comes because it was requested by German police. 213 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:37.960 It was German police, German prosecutors that called for this search to be carried 214 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.720 out. The thinking is that they're trying to link this case to a man 215 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:47.039 who was named as a formal suspect last year, who is a German national, 216 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:51.720 Christian Bruckner, who's forty five years old. He is currently serving time 217 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:55.879 in Germany on a rape conviction. He's always denied anything to do with Madeline 218 00:16:55.960 --> 00:17:02.519 McCann, but he is known to have been in that area when Madeline was 219 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:07.160 last seen. Okay, so what was it those specifically that caused it to 220 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:11.680 be right now and back in that area that's already been searched. Did he 221 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:15.000 did this suspect, Did he say something to I don't know, a cellmate, 222 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:18.359 did he talk to a guard? Did he Is he doing this as 223 00:17:18.400 --> 00:17:21.839 part of a plea? What is new that he might have said to them? 224 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:26.359 Or why would they reopen this at this time? So that is a 225 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:29.720 big question. We don't know. So we know that it was German prosecutors 226 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:32.920 that but asked for the search to be carried out. We know that this 227 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:36.799 has to do with Christian Brutner, but they haven't said why, what tip, 228 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:41.519 what evidence? UM, you know is behind all of this. So, 229 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:42.680 UM, you know it's gonna be a three day search. I think 230 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:45.160 in the next a few days, hopefully by the end of this week, 231 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:49.920 we'll get more information. But German officials have haven't given a whole lot of 232 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:55.640 details. UM asked to you know what it really was that that set off 233 00:17:55.720 --> 00:18:00.279 this, this this whole new search. In the beginning, I remember remember 234 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.640 that, you know, a lot of focus was obviously being put on the 235 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.079 parents, clearly because they were the last two people who said that they saw 236 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:11.359 Madeline alive. And now seeing the picture of those parents and I think it 237 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:15.759 was taken yesterday or the day before. Holding that picture of Madeline again, 238 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:19.039 it made me start to think that, you know, once the two of 239 00:18:19.079 --> 00:18:23.160 them were cleared, what you know, and everybody started thinking, what do 240 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:30.079 you do when your kid disappears? When she's three and you're left with that 241 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.119 sort of gut wrenching what happened? Where is she? You know? Is 242 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:37.200 she still alive? Kind of thing? Putting the parents through this over and 243 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:41.839 over and over again, giving them this hope and then you know, the 244 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.799 searches. Then obviously you have not come to fruition with anything, but to 245 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:51.000 put them through this again cannot be a light thing, even for the German 246 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:55.880 government. That's got to be in the consideration department, right absolutely. I 247 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:59.119 think that's the thinking. And again we don't know because they haven't said, 248 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:00.839 but I think, yeah, that this thing is and I think part of 249 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:06.440 the reason there's so much attention on this development here is that it must be 250 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.599 something big that they wouldn't just reopen the investigation, you know, so many 251 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:14.519 years later for just a small tip. So so we'll see what comes out 252 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:15.640 of that. You remember, of course her parents, Yeah, like you 253 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:19.079 say, they were initially suspects. They were then cleared, and then they 254 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.960 spent years kind of you know, raising awareness, drawing attention to their daughter's 255 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:26.359 case. They got tons of celebrities involved, from David Beckham to JK. 256 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:33.079 Rolling Um offered millions in rewards for any information leading to to you know, 257 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.599 to finding Madeline. They've never really given up hope. Um. But but 258 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.920 so we'll see if if anything comes out of this new search. And as 259 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:45.200 thank you so much, thank you, see you later, ABC's and as 260 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:52.720 Dela Kuta man, I do hope that, even unfortunately, if it is 261 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:56.559 her remains that are found, you always hope that there is some sort of 262 00:19:56.599 --> 00:20:03.039 resolution, not just or are you know, the scandalous society in which we 263 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:06.559 live where we need to you know, wrap up this lifetime movie. But 264 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:11.680 for those parents, I mean, I can't imagine, you know, I 265 00:20:11.720 --> 00:20:15.880 know how I feel when you know, a dog runs off or something like 266 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:17.799 that and I'm like, oh my god, what's going on? And it 267 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:25.160 breaks my heart. Imagine your child disappears and you're still searching seventeen years later 268 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:30.319 with no answer. I don't know how they go on. I mean, 269 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:34.519 obviously they have to, they have other kids, but dang, just oh 270 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:41.799 you talk about heartbreaking. Oh, Lebron might be breaking some hearts. He's 271 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.920 talking about retirement. He says, it's an offseason decision to think about. 272 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:49.319 To be honest, I a lot to think about, to be honest, 273 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:56.880 and this will be personally going going forward with the game of basketball. I 274 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.039 love to think about. Okay. In a eleven second cut, three times 275 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.680 he said he's got a lot to think about. I feel like Lebron's got 276 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:10.359 a lot to think about. James just completed his twentieth season with the NBA. 277 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:15.759 Today is National Drinking with Chickens Day. She wrote, I have a 278 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:19.920 feeling this is something our Jennifer has done in the past. Why because I'm 279 00:21:19.920 --> 00:21:25.440 from running, does everybody think I can ride a bull? I've been drinking 280 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:30.000 with chickens? Have you not been drinking with chickens? I have, and 281 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.319 I've written a bull. I think we're done here, Okay. A driver 282 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:37.240 has crashed a U haul truck into a security barrier outside the White House. 283 00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:41.039 A former LAPD officer charged with sexually abusing four boys at his home in Covina 284 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:45.480 has died while in custody, and there's a debate about the impact of these 285 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:51.799 appointment only animal shelters, and whether that policy could be contributing to a rising 286 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:55.680 kill rates at animal rescues across the country. We'll get into that in just 287 00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:57.759 a second. But Jim Ryan, good morning to you. A lot of 288 00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:02.559 us have thought we're doing the right thing. We're saving those plastic bags we 289 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:04.440 get at the grocery store, we take them back, we recycle them. 290 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:10.039 Are we doing anything at all? Though when it comes to the cost benefit 291 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:14.119 analysis? Maybe, I mean, cost benefit analysis is one thing, probably 292 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:17.160 not, But in terms of saving the planet, you know, that's why 293 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:19.200 I think you would do that. You'd bring the plastic bags back, first 294 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:22.400 of all, so they don't end up in the environment. You're filling up 295 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:26.039 at landfill or stuck in a tree at a city park, or blowing around 296 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.480 in the neighborhood or in the waterways. Right, so you take the bags 297 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:34.519 back. California state law requires most big supermarkets and pharmacies, big box stores 298 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:41.480 to have a big bin outside so that anybody can return plastic shopping bags. 299 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:45.839 You see the plastic bag. Those shopping bags are hard to deal with because 300 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:51.359 as big and powerful as recycling machines are, you don't have plastic bags in 301 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:53.200 there. And they can actually gum up the works and stop the machine. 302 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:57.559 So that you have to be they have to be handled in a specific way, 303 00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:00.839 and so I think everyone assumes that, yeah, by putting it in 304 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:04.880 the bin, it's going off to a recycling center. Well, DAVC News 305 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:11.000 and its affiliates around the country several of them got together and then they decided 306 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.920 to test this. So we took a pastic bag, we dropped in and 307 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:21.680 apple tracker yeah, er tag right into the bag. Super gluted in there 308 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:25.119 or gorilla gluted, I guess is what they did. Then put other bags 309 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:29.440 around it, dropped it off with a recycling bin at Target and Walmart stores 310 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.440 around the country. See what happens next, right, So we tracked these 311 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:37.160 things and the vast majority did not go to recycling centers. Most went to 312 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:41.039 either city landfills, or they went to incinerators where they were burned up, 313 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:47.240 or in very few cases that he actually went to recycling centers. Three or 314 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:51.559 four cases, some of them ended up in recycling centers in Asia, and 315 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:55.319 then three were unaccounted for all together. Nobody's quite sure what happened to those. 316 00:23:55.599 --> 00:23:56.720 All right, Jim, Well, thank you so much. We'll keep 317 00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:00.240 an eye on this one, because I've always wondered, like, all right, 318 00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.000 I do my part. I do recycle those things, but at the 319 00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:06.039 same time, it's like, okay, if it's really not doing any good, 320 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:08.160 and hilariously kind of coming up the system, it's like, well, 321 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.400 that doesn't do us any good if we're doing if we on the one side 322 00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:15.640 are doing the right thing, but it's not actually helping the process. Yeah, 323 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.960 we'll take a canvas bag to the shopping and to the grocery store instead, 324 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:21.359 and want to you want to think about it? I love it, 325 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:26.960 Jim, Thank you so much. See ya ABC's Jim Ryan. I saw 326 00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:32.079 that last night. I was like, oh my gosh, So here's poor 327 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.359 I don't know, Joe the maintenance guy, and every time the recycling machine 328 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:41.759 goes off, Joe's gotta go over there an ungumm it with all of those 329 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:48.200 plastic bags that we have tried to save and recycle. We tried, we 330 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.319 tried, everybody, we tried. The bodies of a four year old boy 331 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.039 and his eight year old sister have been recovered from the King's River in Fresno 332 00:24:56.160 --> 00:25:00.759 County. Authority say those kids were swept away Sunday when their mom and a 333 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.720 friend tried to take them across the river over to a rock, but the 334 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.200 kids didn't have life vest. The girl's body was found about an hour later. 335 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:14.039 The boy's body was found yesterday about two miles downstream. Closing arguments have 336 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:17.599 started in the trial of a man accused of killing a father who was camping 337 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:22.440 with his young daughters at Malibu Creek State Park. Anthony Routa is accused of 338 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:26.960 firing a rifle into the tent where all three people were sleeping in twenty eighteen. 339 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.680 Prosecutor said that Roudah had the rifle on him when he was arrested. 340 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:33.599 The defense argued cigarette butts found near the side that the shooting did not have 341 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:38.079 Routah's DNA on them. Routa is accused of going on a crime spree that 342 00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:44.720 also includes an early morning shooting in Burglary. I'm going to tell you a 343 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:48.200 cigarette butt story in just a second. That's bizarre, as Handahl would say, 344 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:52.960 I have a personal story about that. A study shows the global loss 345 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:56.039 of wildlife is more alarming than previously thought. The study published yesterday in the 346 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:03.079 journal Biological Reviews found almost half the play in a species are experiencing rapid population 347 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.519 declines. Some scientists say the world is entering a sixth mass extinction event, 348 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.880 caused by the destruction of wild landscapes to make room for farms, towns, 349 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:17.559 and roads. They say climate change is also an important factor. I've never 350 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:22.039 seen one that big up close. It's not often that you've got an alligator 351 00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:26.279 roaming around your neighborhood. Live in Southeast Texas or anywhere, I'm pretty sure 352 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:32.519 in the US, But that's cornelis. Greg Junior, who lives in the 353 00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:37.000 area, says he was just driving home Sunday spots a gator. Says he 354 00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:41.240 didn't take any chances one. I didn't get out of my car too. 355 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:45.720 I called the police and let them handle it smart now. Police kept an 356 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.039 eye on the gator until a trapper captured the reptile and a three hour long 357 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:52.680 rescue. The trappers said the alligator weighed about twelve hundred pounds. It is 358 00:26:52.759 --> 00:27:00.440 eighty five years old and still out and about. Super Bowl sixty is headed 359 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:07.319 to San Francisco forty nine ers home Stadium, so it'll be at Levi's Stadium. 360 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.599 Super Bowl sixty in Santa Clara twenty twenty five, Super Bowl fifty was 361 00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:17.440 played at Levi's Stadium in twenty sixteen. Vegas and New Orleans will host the 362 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:22.079 next two Super Bowls. That's twenty four and twenty five. All right, 363 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:26.400 So here's my weirdo personal story. So as you guys know, So where 364 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.839 I grew up, you know, out in the sticks, we had a 365 00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.119 whole bunch of land. And then my family has everybody lives on the land. 366 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:37.559 I know it sounds very weird and yellow stony in a weird way, 367 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:45.240 but I had relatives who built log cabins. So cousin Francis and her husband 368 00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:52.960 Laars built a log cabin on our property. They lived in Alaska during the 369 00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:56.599 summers, and then they would come down to Reading and they would live in 370 00:27:56.640 --> 00:28:02.480 this log cabin during the winters because Alaska, you know, winter is rough. 371 00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:08.640 And here's the weirdest part. My cousin Lars had no sweat glands. 372 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:12.319 That's a thing. I didn't know there was a thing. Anyway, Lars 373 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:17.640 passes away, Francis says, all right, Annie Jones, kid, when 374 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:21.039 you turn eighteen, go live in that cabin. Take care of it for 375 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:23.920 me when I'm not there. So I was the first to be given that 376 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:26.759 offer, So I go and I live in the cabin. I think I 377 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.799 think I was the ripe old age of seventeen, and my parents were probably 378 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:33.839 like, hell yeah, I get her out of this house. So I'm 379 00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.759 living in the cabin. I've probably only been there like maybe two weeks, 380 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.480 three weeks. And I slept with the window open just a little bit, 381 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.240 you know, maybe three four inches, just to get some cool air in 382 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:52.079 there. And I hear this crunching on the gravel footsteps. It's about four 383 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:57.839 thirty in the morning, and I it wakes me up. It's that loud 384 00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.920 because it's just silent out there. And I remember going to the window and 385 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:08.000 looking and seeing a man standing there a plaid shirt, jeans, and he's 386 00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:12.680 smoking a cigarette. Now, granted, you guys, this is there's nothing 387 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:18.440 else around this thing but just acres of field and this log cabin that I 388 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:23.200 lived in, So I have no idea what to do, you got. 389 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:26.680 I went into like freeze mode. So I was proud of myself. I 390 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:30.839 knew there was a shotgun because you know, it's ready. I knew there 391 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.200 was a shotgun in the closet, so I grabbed the shotgun and cocked it, 392 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.200 just letting him know, I got a gun. I didn't yell anything. 393 00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:44.039 I just cocked the gun like an idiot, got under my bed. 394 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:49.400 Had this nineteen oh six Sears catalog bed that has it, so it was 395 00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:55.160 huge and raised got under the bed. Called my uncle who lived across the 396 00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.759 street. I'm like, Uncle, Ken, there's a guy outside, and 397 00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:03.000 he goes, why did you call me? Called the cops. Oh yeah, 398 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:10.240 anyway, it's the cigarette butt that that guy left that proved to the 399 00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:15.000 cops once they arrived that there was somebody out there, and it looks like 400 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:21.640 there were a couple of cigarette butts that had been Apparently this man had been 401 00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:26.599 coming to my window for like the first week that I lived there and didn't 402 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.200 know it, based on the cigarette butts that were outside this window, which 403 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.279 I just never walked around there, I guess, But isn't that creepy? 404 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:38.880 They never found him, but that was the only proof that I had some 405 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:48.359 weirdo guy coming to the window of this log cabin. Freaky Freaky writer E 406 00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.680 Jean Carroll has now filed an amendment to our defamation lawsuit against former President Trump, 407 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:57.759 asking for another ten million dollars for comments he made after the verdict. 408 00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.279 Trump was found liable for sexually abusing Carol in nineteen ninety six. I know 409 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.559 Tyler liable Lie Yubble in nineteen ninety six and later defaming her. Carol says 410 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:12.759 he then or she then made more He then made more derogatory comments about her 411 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.359 on live TV. He responded online and in interviews by saying Carol's sexual assault 412 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:25.039 allegation was politically motivated. Eric Tursky says Carol claims Trump's comments during a CNN 413 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:30.319 town hall earlier this month entitle her to additional damages. Let's say good morning 414 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:34.480 now to Sharon Logan. Sharon, I this story that you and I are 415 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:40.039 about to talk about is one that I've been kind of watching over time and 416 00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:44.880 wondering if there's an A plus B equal CE impact here. So the debate 417 00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.559 has kind of been coming up now about appointment only and this was what we 418 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:53.799 did at animal shelters during the pandemic. But now there's a question about why 419 00:31:55.319 --> 00:32:00.480 are we keeping these pandemic era appointment only policies in animal shelters across the country 420 00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:07.400 and could that policy be contributing to a rise and kill rates at animal rescues. 421 00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.599 So, Sharon, good morning, I know you're a huge animal activist. 422 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:14.640 You've sued Orange County in the past over some of its policies. What 423 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.519 is your take on these pandemic arab policies staying in place and the impact they 424 00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:23.160 might be having. I did, and thank you for having me on your 425 00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:28.160 show, first of all, and thank you for using your platform to helpfully 426 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:32.240 advocate and help effectuate change, change for the animals. And yes, I 427 00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:38.359 have been advocating since twenty twelve for true sustainable, viable shelter reform at OC 428 00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:44.680 Animal Care. So these policies, I mean, they're just absolutely ridiculous. 429 00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.799 And if you go on the Best Friend's website, you know they have this 430 00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:53.039 whole section where it says policies right, proven policies, it says, and 431 00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:59.440 then it talks about shelter intake a just the number of animals entering your shelter, 432 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:06.599 continuing practices that will keep pets in home that the website says returned pets 433 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:10.160 in the field instead of impounding them, leave stray cats on the street. 434 00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:15.319 They have this whole new ridiculous thing where they're saying that even now, if 435 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:19.200 you find a stray dog, leave the stray dog on the street because ninety 436 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.000 two percent of stray dogs are a mile from their home and they will be 437 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.559 able to go home. So it's just absolutely ridiculous. And they said that 438 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:32.720 these policies are still good to maintain after COVID as the new way of progressive 439 00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:39.960 animal sheltering and they're calling it community sheltering because they believe we members of the 440 00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:46.039 community need to be more active with the shelter animals. And so the policy, 441 00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:51.079 the appointment only procedure Orange County Animal Care, you know, they took 442 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:55.240 it a little too far. I mean, I believe La City or La 443 00:33:55.319 --> 00:34:00.799 County, even Irvine Shelter they have an appointments where you can come in from 444 00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:05.359 one to four, you know, make an appointment, but you can still 445 00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:08.800 walk around and see the animals. At Orange County Animals Are they've completely shut 446 00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:13.280 the shelter out. The only place you can go is in the lobby and 447 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:17.079 once you get to the lobby, you can look on the computer and ask 448 00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.159 the kennel attendant to bring you out two dogs and that's it, okay. 449 00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.000 So, I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. It needs to change. Orange 450 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:29.920 County is a thirty five million dollars shelter. They have an annual budget of 451 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.880 I believe twenty five million dollars, so this is not an underfunded or understaffed 452 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:40.840 shelter. They are doing this because these are the policies and directives that are 453 00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:47.000 considered best practices by the big box organizations like the big national wealthfare organizations, 454 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:53.599 which are best Friends often Pets Alive HAW which stands for Human Animal Support Services. 455 00:34:53.599 --> 00:35:00.079 These are the supposed leaders in the national welfare that are saying these are 456 00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:05.360 the best policies of procedures to implement at municipal animal shelters. Okay, Sharon, 457 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.119 So let me play devil's advocate here, because it's not that I don't 458 00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.480 agree with what you're saying. I just want to give their side, not 459 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:16.559 specifically OC animal care, but some of the shelters I know during COVID were 460 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.519 telling me, and even actually after it, some of the shelters that I 461 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:24.519 had talked to were saying, the reason that they were keeping these policies in 462 00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:30.519 place is that they actually found more successful adoption rates happening, or you know 463 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:36.360 that the animals weren't ever brought back, that they were able to better fit 464 00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.119 a family with say will focus on dogs here maybe, but an adoptable dog, 465 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:45.320 that kind of thing when the process was a little more streamlined like that 466 00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:47.480 where they had it, and it wasn't so sort of willy nilly. People 467 00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:51.519 were walking through just saw a dog they thought was cute and then grabbed it, 468 00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:52.679 took it home. It didn't work with the family and they had to 469 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:58.679 bring it back. So they were claiming that they saw bigger success rates when 470 00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:04.280 they did this appointment policy and that that's why they were continuing it. Have 471 00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:08.079 you heard anything like that? And also did you see during the pandemic. 472 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.920 I know you did, but a lot of shelters said they were cleared out. 473 00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:15.000 Remember everybody wanted an animal, yes, because everybody was home, so 474 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:19.760 they were fostering the dogs because everybody just works from home. Yes, But 475 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:25.119 once the pandemic was lifted and people started going back to work, they realized 476 00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:30.559 how much you know, um time and effort. I mean, it takes 477 00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:34.159 a lot to keep a pet, whether dog or cat, you know, 478 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.239 just like a child. They need your time and effort. And once people 479 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.159 came went back to work, they realized they didn't have the time and effort 480 00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:44.599 to put into that. But yes, I know that's like what La City 481 00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:49.119 is saying. That's actually even what they see animal out there and saying they're 482 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:53.639 calling it a concierge services. They some more time with the doctors that come 483 00:36:53.679 --> 00:37:00.679 in by appointment, or I think you won't care even meant as like a 484 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:06.760 matchmaking service, right crazy, But yes, they are saying that it's more 485 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.840 successful that way. As far as how true that is not is or on 486 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:16.719 the data with Osee Animal Care, I don't believe that's true. Okay, 487 00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:21.880 when what would you like to see done? I would you know, like 488 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:25.559 we obviously we've both identified the problems. What would you like to see? 489 00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:31.039 Do you want them open completely again or what from your aspect might be the 490 00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:37.280 key to success. I don't. I don't think they need to open completely. 491 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:42.800 But I mean back in the day pre COVID pandemic, ose Animal Care 492 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.320 was open seven or six days a week, from like ten or eleven in 493 00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:50.480 the morning till six or seven at night, right six days a week. 494 00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:54.199 I believe the dogs do need interaction. I just can't see them sitting in 495 00:37:54.239 --> 00:38:01.239 their kennels all day without any kind of interaction, social interaction. I've suggested 496 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:06.119 to the Orange County Board of supervisors. I've emailed them like hundreds of times. 497 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:07.159 It probably tired me by now. I'm like, well, if you 498 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:12.840 need to open the shelter right at least even on a limited basis, let's 499 00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:19.159 say one to four, you know, Monday, Wednesday or Friday or weekends 500 00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.920 when a lot of people are Friday to Saturday Sunday, open it from eleven 501 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:28.679 to five or something, you know, give them something. And I do 502 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.239 believe that people actually need to be able to walk in the shelter, walk 503 00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:36.880 around the tunnels and meet the dogs personally. But I also understand that the 504 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.000 big box organizations that's not what they're pushing, and they're saying this is the 505 00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:47.079 better way and this is the new way. But I know animal advocates here 506 00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:52.320 n in La don't think that right. Well, Sharon, I appreciate your 507 00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:57.079 time and of course your dedication. Anybody who's dedicated to animals, man, 508 00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.119 you are high in my book. So I appreciate what you are doing and 509 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:04.440 keep up the good fight. And if nothing else, I like what you 510 00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:08.280 just said how you had suggested to the border supervisors, and I think that 511 00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:13.719 that's key when we are if we're gonna make you know, if we're going 512 00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:17.039 to see any change, it needs to be through suggestions and you know, 513 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:22.599 like a positive impact or a positive push on this kind of thing. So 514 00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:27.000 I hope that your suggestions, combined with what oc Animal Care says it can 515 00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.480 do, that we can see something actually happen and change. Because I'm sure 516 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:34.960 there's a little right on both your correctness, I should say, on both 517 00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:37.199 sides. So let's see if we can't meld those two together and make a 518 00:39:37.239 --> 00:39:40.199 difference. But Sharon, thank you so much for your time this morning. 519 00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.320 Yes, and I agree with that. And just one more thing. You 520 00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:50.960 know, we are as animal advocans, we are a bunch of really passionate, 521 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.000 emotional individuals and we all have our different ways, so we can't let 522 00:39:54.000 --> 00:40:00.519 the emotions rule, as you know, go buy backs and data and um 523 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:04.440 you know what is sexual and what is best for the animals, not just 524 00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.960 on our emotions. The other thing is, I know you guys saw the 525 00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:10.679 article in the Voice of OC and that's why you reached out to me. 526 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:15.119 And I just want to thank you the Voice of OC and Angela Angeline for 527 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:20.000 writing that. I mean, they've been writing about OCIE animals back the curtain 528 00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:22.679 on what goes on there since twenty fifteen. They just don't write fluff pieces, 529 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.360 you know. They they show all the good, the bad, and 530 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.000 the ugly. So I'm just really appreciated the doing that, and thank you 531 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:37.960 so much for your time and hopefully we can collaborate and effectually some change in 532 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:43.559 the shelters. I would love you. You are welcome back anytime, Sharon. 533 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:45.960 I appreciate. I have a great week. Hey, you do, 534 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:51.360 see you later. Sharon Logan is an animal activist, and you know, 535 00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.599 here's the thing. Even if you don't agree with her, or you or 536 00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.679 maybe you do agree with her and you don't agree what the animal shelters are 537 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.599 doing, one thing that we just did as we at least are talking about 538 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:06.519 it, and I think that that's key is that you're talking about it, 539 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:13.039 and that is what's going to effectuate the change is if we keep things like 540 00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:16.480 this in the headlines. I don't care how often we do it. I 541 00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:21.599 just want more animals adopted. That's all I care about. And she's right, 542 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:28.880 is there? Is it tough to raise an animal? Yes? Are 543 00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:32.280 you an idiot if you have three dogs in a cat? Yes? And 544 00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.719 apparently just so you guys know Betty White likes oranges. It's on my Instagram 545 00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:45.119 JJLKFI and Jennifer jones Lee. That dog somebody on their rote. Betty White 546 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:50.079 is a trip. Yes, she is walking around with an orange in her 547 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:54.239 mouth. Yesterday. Oh my gosh. It's KFI and KOSTHD too, Los 548 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:59.239 Angeles, Orange County. Your so cowweather from KFI is gray, missed and 549 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:02.199 drizzle today a heiz will just be in the upper sixties to write at eighty 550 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:07.159 and more of the same four tomorrow. We lead local live from the KFI 551 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.920 twenty four hour newsroom. I'm Jennifer jones Lee. This has been your wake 552 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:15.119 up call. 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