1 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,800 What is up everybody? We are back here on another Saturday edition of Hobby 2 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:34,280 Hotline. Today's episode is about two fifty six, which is pretty wild. 3 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,320 I remember back in the day. My first episode actually was episode one hundred, 4 00:00:37,359 --> 00:00:39,399 and that was how to Do It Bad I guess over a year ago, 5 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,920 which is pretty wild. So we also have two wonderful co hosts here 6 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,600 with me today. We've got Logan from NASCAR Card and then Mike from junk 7 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,119 Wax Hero Logan, how are we doing today? We're doing okay. We've 8 00:00:52,119 --> 00:00:56,119 had a lot of weird weather here and a lot of issues, and right 9 00:00:56,159 --> 00:00:59,399 now we have no water to drink. It's not even doable, but we're 10 00:00:59,439 --> 00:01:02,759 having a good time. I'm glad to be here getting through it there. 11 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,200 Yeah, and then we'll kick it over to you, Mike, how how 12 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,480 are you doing today? Good? Water's overrated, so I wouldn't worry too 13 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:12,319 much about it. You'll be fine. I'm excited, excited to be here, 14 00:01:12,519 --> 00:01:17,640 Excited for the national this coming week, Excited for the comments. This 15 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,079 is my favorite part about being on this show is the comments. People will 16 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,079 ask great questions, they make great points. So yeah, excited, absolutely, 17 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:32,280 Yeah. Shout out to the commenters and the chatters. Very very exciting 18 00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:34,680 and very exciting week coming up for many of us. We've got the national 19 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:38,359 I know I'm gonna be I'm gonna be there. Luckily, I kind of 20 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,239 made some last minute plans and I'll be heading out to Chicago on Tuesday. 21 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,840 UM on my full time jobs all remote, so I can work from a 22 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,599 hotel on Tuesday and then kind of work throughout the week, which is really 23 00:01:49,879 --> 00:01:52,879 you know, that's that's pretty exciting. Both of you guys are going. 24 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,920 Mike, You're you're going right. Yeah, I'll be there Wednesday. I 25 00:01:56,079 --> 00:02:00,200 anticipate being in the show for at least parts of four days when day, 26 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Thursday, Friday, Saturday awesome. And then Logan, you're gonna be there 27 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,920 as well. Yeah, I'll be there Tuesday, and I'll be there through 28 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,680 Sunday morning. Nice. I can't wait. My son and I are actually 29 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:14,879 gonna leave like late Monday and then draft halfway and then drive in on Tuesday 30 00:02:14,879 --> 00:02:17,759 morning. Nice. That's always fun making a making a trip out of it. 31 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,039 Also very exciting. We will be on the main stage. Hobby Hotline 32 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:27,719 will be on the main stage basically the same time. I think it'll be 33 00:02:27,759 --> 00:02:32,199 an hour different, so it'll be like it'll be it'll be noon, so 34 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:37,680 it'll be noon Eastern, I think I'm pretty sure. But eleven am Central 35 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,639 Time will be on the main stage. Hobby Hotline will be there at the 36 00:02:40,759 --> 00:02:44,479 National on Saturday, so if you if you're at the National and you want 37 00:02:44,479 --> 00:02:46,879 to come check out the show live. I don't know if we'll be doing 38 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,039 any comments, like if people want to shout out their comments that they would 39 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,080 normally leave in the chat. Maybe we'll do a little bit of a little 40 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,800 bit of a Q and eight session. I'mat sure exactly what we have plann 41 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:59,919 We'll probably just be like a normal show react to some of the news that's 42 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,879 kind of gone on at the National so far. So to kick things off, 43 00:03:02,879 --> 00:03:06,199 we are going to get into some National talk, but we are actually 44 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:08,039 going to first talk about a couple of things that happened this week. You 45 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:10,919 know with the National. I'm sure we all probably have seen the news cycle 46 00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:15,639 over the past few years with the National, things leading up to it can 47 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,159 be a little bit slow. But this week actually is going to be the 48 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,080 top Chrome release week, and they came out with a new style refractor they 49 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,719 had like there was a Taco refractor, there was a frozen I think it 50 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,240 was a frozen refractor. These are all coming out of top Chrome, and 51 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,240 I did see an interesting kind of topic that I that I'm interested to hear 52 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:45,240 your guys opinion on. Is tops Chrome becoming to two watered down in terms 53 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,960 of like tops Chrome being used within tops? Uh? So you know, 54 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,240 I have my own opinion, but I'll let you guys go first. Mike, 55 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,560 kind of what are your thoughts on tops Chrome baseball? Uh? Is 56 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:57,520 it? You know, is it becoming too watered down? Is you think 57 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,840 people are losing interest? Do you think these talker refractors are kind of just 58 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:02,479 like a weird thing that they're trying to throw out? Like you, what 59 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:05,639 are your kind of overall thoughts on the tops Chrome release? So, first 60 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,879 of all, the Taco refractor isn't for me, but that's okay. I 61 00:04:09,919 --> 00:04:12,439 mean there are people who are really excited about it. Same with the frozen 62 00:04:12,479 --> 00:04:15,680 fractor, which when that was announced back in the spring or late winter, 63 00:04:15,759 --> 00:04:20,759 maybe they it was supposed to be negative numbered, so they would be numbered 64 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:26,000 negative five or something. I still don't get that, and I don't really 65 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,120 care either because I won't be collecting them. But yes, they're definitely watered 66 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,639 down. I think that most sets are that aren't high end, although even 67 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:36,360 those are probably a little bit watered down compared to how they used to be, 68 00:04:36,959 --> 00:04:42,279 But especially the ones that are retail based, like Chrome Heritage, are 69 00:04:42,319 --> 00:04:46,639 going to be very watered down, and they're trying to appeal to a very 70 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:50,079 very very broad audience. Yeah, and Logan, you know, what are 71 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,360 your thoughts on Top Chrome? I mean, I don't for I mean, 72 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,720 I know you're a big NASCAR guy. I don't know if they just to 73 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,560 tops doesn't Panini has the NASCAR license, so technically I guess they're aren't any 74 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,360 really any or I don't know. I guess how I guess maybe it doesn't 75 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,279 work with where maybe they do they can Top the Top to make any NASCAR 76 00:05:06,319 --> 00:05:10,600 cards. There's at all painting right now now. The only tox cards that 77 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:15,439 or tax cards that have ever been made for NASCAR or the etops. That's 78 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,839 while. But you know, just as an outsider looking in on this, 79 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:25,720 I think it's water down for sure. Um. You know, I guess 80 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:30,040 maybe if they had a Bucky's refractor or something Bucky's Chrome card, maybe I'd 81 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,600 be cool with that. But yeah, now I'm just I'm not a fan. 82 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,040 I think it's too water damns too much. And it's, like you 83 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:42,040 said, they're trying to appeal to a much broader spectrum of folks, and 84 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,439 I mean, you can't make everybody happy, so I don't know why they're 85 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,680 even trying to do this. But you know, that's just my opinion. 86 00:05:46,959 --> 00:05:50,800 It used to be a lot more fun to riff wax, and it's just 87 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:57,959 not as much anymore, especially retail, or particularly retail, you're just getting 88 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,680 mostly based cards. Last year, just a year ago, you can rip 89 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,120 a hanger of Tops Tops Chrome and get some really good stuff, and not 90 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,319 anymore. It's a shame. Yeah, I'm trying to find the tweet exactly. 91 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,360 I wish I had. I thought I had bookmarked it, but I 92 00:06:13,399 --> 00:06:17,639 guess I may not have of how many different how many different tops chrome products 93 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,759 there are, because you've got like Tops Chrome, you got the Tops Chrome 94 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,720 Sapphire, You've got like Tops Chrome, Ben Baller. I mean, I 95 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,720 think that was kind of the whole point of the discussion, was just that 96 00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:32,439 there are so many different types of tops chromes now that and I mean, 97 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,600 especially with this rookie class. I think this actually might be one of the 98 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:41,439 better, one of the better rookie classes when it comes to a Top Chrome 99 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:44,360 product like the first Tops Chrome, because then they do Tops Chrome update later 100 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,720 on in the year. But I mean, for the most part, like 101 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:50,399 you're seeing basically all the rookies from series one in Series two are going to 102 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:55,199 be in this year's Tops Chrome, And I think the I think the topic 103 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:00,639 that I have thought about for a while is like how products are structure and 104 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:04,240 like if they should be using like tops, if they should be using the 105 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:09,000 Tops Chrome brand more often, which is actually sort of what they're doing, 106 00:07:10,079 --> 00:07:13,399 because like when I was thinking about it back in like a while ago, 107 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:15,800 it's not necessarily it maybe kind of did come to fruition a little bit, 108 00:07:15,839 --> 00:07:19,319 if I'm gonna be honest, Like I was thinking, like one of the 109 00:07:19,319 --> 00:07:24,680 companies should try and do more stuff the way that they do it with like 110 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:30,279 Optic and Don Russ, where like the overarching brand has like more of a 111 00:07:32,319 --> 00:07:35,480 has just essentially more products within it. Like so they would do like a 112 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,959 Prism thing and they would do like that would be the overarching brand, and 113 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,519 then underneath that they would do products around that, and I guess in practice 114 00:07:43,519 --> 00:07:46,120 we're kind of seeing them do that with tops Chrome, and I mean, 115 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,720 I guess we'll see if it's good. I mean, I do think that 116 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:53,360 more tops Chrome product is going to be good because it is you know, 117 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,959 it's always fun to kind of rip tops Chrome. I mean, I think 118 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,959 that's one of the fun products. It's a flagship product. It's one of 119 00:07:58,959 --> 00:08:01,639 the fun products that you know comes out every single year. So, I 120 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:05,399 mean, Mike, I'll ask you the question, like, is top Chrome 121 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:09,439 something that you look forward to or is it kind of just something that kind 122 00:08:09,439 --> 00:08:13,560 of just something that sort of falls by the wayside with how many other products 123 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,639 there are coming out every single year. Yeah, I'd love tops Chrome. 124 00:08:16,399 --> 00:08:20,600 I won't be I always say this and then I end up doing it, 125 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:22,759 and I'll say I won't buy any wax, but I know I will. 126 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,759 I don't know. Ziggy here said something about buying a box of chrome at 127 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:31,560 the National for the silver pack promo. I'm not familiar with that, so, 128 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,840 Ziggy, if you want to share what that is. I think I 129 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:41,399 prefer buying singles of guys that I collect and I want rome. Refractor Rookies 130 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,000 is my favorite, but I'm also not chasing rainbows. I don't care if 131 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,919 it's number two, five, or ten or fifty or whatever. Just give 132 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,320 me the card of the guy I want, right, Yeah, definitely I 133 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:56,639 feel that way too. I mean, I'll actually kind of ask you a 134 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,200 similar question that what we just said. They're looking for you, like are 135 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,120 you you know, I know you've taught, You've told us in the chat 136 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,440 and everything about like how you are you collect a lot of the people who 137 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,879 have won the NASCAR Cup, like you collect autographs of them. So does 138 00:09:09,919 --> 00:09:13,320 that kind of is that sort of your plan throughout everything that you're doing in 139 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,240 the hobby? Like do you buy do you buy really any wax? Or 140 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,120 do you are you buying mostly singles or are you buying kind of mostly these 141 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,039 these autographs? What's sort of what's the style that you buy in? I 142 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:26,480 guess is maybe the sort of the I guess the question that I have for 143 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,879 you, Well, I mean it's a little a little of you know everything, 144 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:31,240 you know, I like to buy wax, you know, you know 145 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:37,919 with Nascar, you know Panini does I think they have Donris Prism chronicles and 146 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:41,320 National Treasures. So there's four issues a year that we get. It's not 147 00:09:41,399 --> 00:09:45,240 like four issues a week for baseball like like you guys seem to get. 148 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,759 It's I don't know if that I could keep up with that, but I 149 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:50,919 do. I do buy wax. I do like to buy singles. For 150 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:56,919 example, this year, uh Panini is doing some seventy fifth anniversary NASCAR autographs 151 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,799 and there's five different autographs and you above and there, and the crazy thing 152 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,159 is they're all redemptions right now. So I have bought all these redemption cards 153 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:07,240 for the autographs, so hopefully I will get them all. But I do. 154 00:10:07,279 --> 00:10:11,759 I do like in lieu of spending you know, one hundred and fifty 155 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:15,720 two hundred dollars whatever for a box, I like to go out and buy 156 00:10:15,759 --> 00:10:18,240 the cards that I want to get. You know. That way, I 157 00:10:18,279 --> 00:10:22,200 know I'm going to get what I want versus getting something that I probably may 158 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,919 not like or I may not want, right, that makes sense. I 159 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,240 actually I did find the tweet here. I'm gonna actually pull it up with 160 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,279 all of the with all of the so it's from uh those back pages. 161 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,799 So here's the list of basically all the Well, this is from twenty here's 162 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:41,639 here's the different twenty twenty two versions top to release for for last year's um 163 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:46,279 for last year's Tops Chrome, which it does seem like there is a lot 164 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,639 of different a lot a lot of different releases with this Tops Chrome. Uh, 165 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:54,360 with this Tops Chrome product, I don't And I mean, I guess 166 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,679 this is sort of the conversation that I think that I have I've had in 167 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,000 the past where I'm like, is it good that they're using the over the 168 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,360 one brand as sort of the brand or is it just like, should it 169 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,600 just be kind of its own? Should Tops Chrome be a standalone and then 170 00:11:09,639 --> 00:11:11,600 they figure out the naming convention or they come out with a new product. 171 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,039 But I mean, I guess it's I can I think it can be kind 172 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,159 of tough if you're Tops, like, if you are trying to if you're 173 00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:20,039 trying to come out with as many products as you are, how what is 174 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,159 your route to trying to sell them? And maybe this is just it. 175 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,919 Maybe it's using this overarching tops Chrome branding and trying to sell it. And 176 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:33,840 Mike also, I'll ask you this question, do you think that do you 177 00:11:33,879 --> 00:11:37,200 think that they should be coming out with all these products under the tops Chrome 178 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:41,279 name, or do you think that they should just try and figure out a 179 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,480 new product and or kind of stick with what. I guess, stick with 180 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,120 what collectors maybe maybe they like it, maybe they don't. I guess it's 181 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,879 really up for debate because it's like it's not like these products, like people 182 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:54,559 are behind the products. So it's like that's maybe maybe one of the things 183 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,919 I guess is maybe a reason why the why reason why they're doing it. 184 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,600 But at the same time, it's like I do wish there was a little 185 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,879 bit of innovation. You know, is too much? Yeah, okay, 186 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,679 actually i'll kick the logan first. Mike, you're re muted there for a 187 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,440 second, but yeah, Wegan, go ahead. Yeah, I just think 188 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,279 it's too much. I mean, I'm waiting for the poop emoji chrome to 189 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,200 come out. I mean, it's just ridiculous, you know a lot of 190 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,240 it. I mean I get it that they've got all these licenses and things 191 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,360 to pay for, so you know, they've they've got an issue as many 192 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,639 different types and flavors as they can. But I'm just not a fan. 193 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:30,799 I think it's just too much. And then yeah, sorry, Mike, 194 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:31,639 you were muted there for a second, so I'll kick it do with that 195 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,480 same question, my fault. Sorry about that. Yeah, I mean, 196 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,720 I think the cosmic chrome. I don't have any cosmic chrome, but I've 197 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:41,720 seen the designs of them and they're very different. They're very unique. I'm 198 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,600 cool with that because it's it is unique. It's not just taking the same 199 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:52,279 cards and doing something very very similar. I'm not sure about Sapphire if those 200 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:58,440 are the same exact photos of the players. But I also understand you've got 201 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,559 branding, and everybody knows chrome, so you know that's that's their branding. 202 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:05,600 It's really important to them. Yeah, that I mean, I think it 203 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:07,200 makes it makes a lot of sense. I can I can see why people 204 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:09,879 might like it. I can see why people don't like it. I mean 205 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:13,320 that's honestly, like if you've ever listen to me talk about anything, I 206 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,960 think that's basically my stance on basically everything for the most part. Like I 207 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,000 can see it from both both directions of why it's good and why maybe it's 208 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:22,320 not so good. Uh, shout, like I said, shout out to 209 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:28,679 everybody in the comments. We got Rex commenting in from uh from New Buffalo. 210 00:13:28,519 --> 00:13:31,080 Very exciting. Got us up on the big screen of the shops. 211 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:35,279 Shout out to Rex. Really appreciate that at the card Shop one of the 212 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:39,159 writers I believe in Hobby News Daily as well. So that's you know, 213 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:43,440 that's always exciting. Um, if you are you know, if you're commenting, 214 00:13:43,759 --> 00:13:46,240 Uh, make sure you let us know where you're watching from. That's 215 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:52,360 always exciting to see the growth of the show and where everybody is watching from. 216 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:54,960 I know in the past we've had people from different countries, We've had 217 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,120 people from all over the United States, so that's always always exciting to see. 218 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,519 Also, make sure to like and subscribe here on YouTube or if you're 219 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:05,480 on Facebook or I guess Twitter, you could retweet the show. If you 220 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:09,639 could do that, that would be really great. So we're gonna actually kind 221 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:13,159 of kick it over to we got we got Ziggi here in Richmond, Virginia. 222 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,600 That's very exciting, March. You're gonna kick it to the second topic 223 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,879 that we've got for the show today, and that's going to be uh, 224 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,799 let me pull up the let me pull up the tweet here again, this 225 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:26,759 is too zoomed in. Sorry, everybody production and fail here. Let me 226 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:31,960 why is it not here? We go so PSA. Essentially I'll align it 227 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:37,399 up for everybody PSA is going to be uh add a stream here. PSA 228 00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:43,679 is going to be partnering with com C. Very you know, exciting to 229 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,799 see. I think com C is one of the best sites to buy and 230 00:14:46,879 --> 00:14:50,559 sell if you're new in the hobby. I mean it's you you aren't really 231 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,960 dealing with the shipping or you know, you're dealing with some fees, but 232 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,240 like you're not dealing with the anxiety if your cards going in the mail, 233 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:01,120 all that kind of all that kind of stuff. I think when I was 234 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:03,120 first getting back into cards, con C was really one of the websites that 235 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,240 I used when I was first getting back into it, and not even just 236 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,519 to buy and sell, what to do like research to like learn about which 237 00:15:11,879 --> 00:15:15,519 what cards or what and which rookie cards were, what rookie cars because you 238 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:16,759 can just type in a player and you can look at basically all the cards 239 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,039 they have on their site. And it's only grown really since I kind of 240 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,000 got back into sports cards back in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, and so it's 241 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:28,679 only it's really grown how many cards they have, and you know, it's 242 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,279 it's it's actually it's commendable in my opinion that they have been able to kind 243 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:35,879 of stay the course and not really stray away like the way that we've seen 244 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:37,799 maybe some other companies try and do this. Uh. So you know, 245 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:41,720 we'll start off with you, Logan, what are your kind of initial thoughts 246 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:43,519 here? Is this something that intrigues you? What do you think of this 247 00:15:43,519 --> 00:15:46,559 this merger or not merger? But what do you think of the partnership here? 248 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,919 I think it's a great partnership. The question is is how much is 249 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,200 this service going to cost? I don't know how much it's going to be. 250 00:15:54,759 --> 00:15:56,639 Uh. You know, I already belonged to the Collector's Club, so 251 00:15:56,679 --> 00:16:02,440 I can already get I guess the best pricing you can get from PSA. 252 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:07,360 But you know there there is a convenience there. I think having your cards 253 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,639 already at Calm See and you don't have to have them sent back to you 254 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:14,120 then send back out to PSA, because you know I do do that a 255 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,919 lot. You know, there's a lot of cards I'll buy off of Calm 256 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,559 See. I'll get them finally, get them back here to the mothership, 257 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:22,879 and then I'll pack them back up and send them to PSA. So that's 258 00:16:22,919 --> 00:16:25,399 going to be convenient. But of course I'm sure we're gonna pay for that 259 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,639 convenience. It'll be interesting to see how much this service is going to cost 260 00:16:29,679 --> 00:16:33,519 me. It still may be cheaper for me to bring them home and then 261 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:36,679 send them back out. I don't know. We'll see, but I like 262 00:16:36,799 --> 00:16:38,440 the idea and I think it's great. I think it's great for the hobby. 263 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,559 Um, you know, the only thing is is you know, you're 264 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,519 buying cards out there that you have never touched or held, so you don't 265 00:16:45,519 --> 00:16:51,720 really know what the real condition is of these cards. That's a good that's 266 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,440 a good point. So you you know, there could be a you know, 267 00:16:55,519 --> 00:16:57,279 a hairline crease you don't know about, or a ding on a corner 268 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:00,879 that you really can't see, or something. You know. So I don't 269 00:17:00,879 --> 00:17:04,039 know if that's going to keep people from sending him in because they don't know 270 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:07,599 what the actual real condition of the card is. I mean, I know 271 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,400 that you can zoom in on cards on tom C, but that doesn't always 272 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,200 tell the complete picture, right, I think it's good. Yeah, that's 273 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:17,880 that's actually a really good point. Before I kick it over to you, 274 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,000 Mike, I want to give some shout outs to people in the comments here. 275 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:23,039 We got Jim says he's watching from his kitchen in West Virginia. We 276 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:30,079 got Chris who is in northern California. Mad City Brew in Madison, Wisconsin 277 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,960 a shout out. Then you got the US sports cards love com c as 278 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,839 a buyer, not as much as the seller. We got another person in 279 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,720 California, Chuck R. We got Joe Philly Joe commenting from Philadelphia. Always 280 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,400 fun to see that, and I think those were all the shoutouts. And 281 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,960 then opens we got we got a Salem Winston, Salem, North Carolina. 282 00:17:52,039 --> 00:17:57,400 Let's see if we got any other Carlos from New York City, always exciting, 283 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,319 Thank you appreciate it, Silver Falls from see this is what I was 284 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,079 saying. Hobby Hobby News Daily or sorry, Hobby Hotline. I get those 285 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,319 confused because I do that other I do. The other show is worldwide, 286 00:18:07,319 --> 00:18:11,799 so I really appreciate everybody leaving their comments. We also have a Victor coming 287 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:15,279 in into the background here, but I will, you know, I'll kick 288 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:17,000 it over to you, Mike, and then I'll bring Victor on and we'll 289 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,799 see kind of what he's got going on. So, Mike, what are 290 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:22,519 your what are your initial thoughts here? Yeah, so Logan nailed it. 291 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,640 I would be concerned, especially buying modern and ultramodern cards that the photos and 292 00:18:27,279 --> 00:18:33,039 somebody put a ziggy put a comment about how they provide notes and each card 293 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:37,079 standing scan is unique, but still having it in your hands is so crucial 294 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,400 when making a decision on grading an ultramodern card now vintage. I'd be okay 295 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,240 with it, and that's mostly what I'm buying anyway. But and then US 296 00:18:45,279 --> 00:18:48,279 sports Cards up above also said, and I think this is right. This 297 00:18:48,319 --> 00:18:52,960 is what I read to twenty four dollars per card, So I don't I 298 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,640 don't know if that's tiered in any way or if it's just twenty four dollars 299 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,559 for any card. I don't know. Sure, Yeah, I guess we'll 300 00:18:59,799 --> 00:19:02,599 see. I mean, you know, I think vaulting in general and my 301 00:19:03,079 --> 00:19:06,079 I think, in my opinion, it's always been something that open other Californian 302 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:10,680 coming in Ventura exciting. Uh. It's always something that I thought I thought 303 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:11,960 the hobby was kind of going to And I can again, I can. 304 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:15,279 I can see both sides of the spectrum here why some people might really like 305 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,200 it, some people might not really like it, Like I think uh, 306 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,920 people who really like getting the cards, and I mean I think there's probably 307 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,400 people who even like buying and selling cards on eBay, like getting the cards, 308 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,119 shipping. It's kind of it's it's it's a business, but it's also 309 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,160 can be fun for people. But I can see how there's also the other 310 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,400 spectrum where you know, I get honestly, I get really nervous, like 311 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,039 I'm checking my like, uh you, I'm checking my USPS trackings every single 312 00:19:38,279 --> 00:19:41,920 hour basically be like where is it now? Like is it gonna get there? 313 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,000 Because you know, you see all these horror stories of like I think, 314 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:51,960 um Eric from uh Eric from uh white back from Collectible Guru, I 315 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,920 think his name is On Twitter he posted a h he posted like a crazy 316 00:19:56,039 --> 00:20:00,359 card. Uh Like it was a it was a n although PSA eight or 317 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,640 PSA nine. No, it must it was. Maybe it wasn't, but 318 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,599 it was. It was a Ronaldo rookie card that had been sent through the 319 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,720 mail and like it had been like cut on the corner, and I just, 320 00:20:08,759 --> 00:20:11,200 oh, it just gave me the shivers. I was so I couldn't. 321 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:12,880 I was just like, oh my gosh, I can't even believe. 322 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,240 I can't imagine that happening. Um, so we're gonna bring Victor in here. 323 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,200 Victor, how are you doing? Good morning, gentlemen. Wow, 324 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,599 it's Victor, Yes, sir, Good morning to all the hobbyists stopped there 325 00:20:22,599 --> 00:20:26,640 in the chat. I just wanted to hop on real quick for a minute 326 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:33,000 to promote our Baseball Card Hall of Fame, the h This is actually the 327 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:37,640 sixth annual Baseball Card Hall of Fame. The ballot is currently live. There 328 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,839 are forty cards on the ballot. You're allowed to vote for up to ten 329 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,720 cards, and we're asking it you only vote once. Um, but really 330 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:51,640 excited about this year's ballot. The ballot, the link to the ballot hopefully 331 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,160 you got it there, adam, Um, But it's it's live. It 332 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:00,559 went live on July fourteenth, and it's going to remain live until August fourth. 333 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,440 When August fourth comes, we will close the ballot and on August sixth, 334 00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:10,759 we will be doing the induction ceremony over on our Sports Card Hall of 335 00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:15,279 Fame Network channel, so you can check out the the the actual results there. 336 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,559 But really excited trying to push this and promote this out to the hobby 337 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,759 getting a lot of momentum it's this thing's been growing up seems like year after 338 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,880 year, and just wanted to make everybody aware of that. Absolutely. I'm 339 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:36,880 actually gonna put the comment in the chat here or the link. You can 340 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:41,160 just copy and paste that link or you know, Victor, if you want 341 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,720 to tweet that out, I can promote your tweet as well. If you 342 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:47,799 want to do that. That might be a little bit easier than if people 343 00:21:47,799 --> 00:21:51,519 want to do that rather than uh, you know, copying and pasting there. 344 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,960 So if you want to like tweet that out, I'll definitely and then 345 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,160 if you drop it, just let us know whenever that's tweeted out, and 346 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,960 then I can definitely promote that as well. I mean, yeah, it's 347 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:03,119 such a you know, it's it's I think you did this with the with 348 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,880 football as well, so this will be for baseball, correct, that's what 349 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,200 you were saying. It's for baseball, correct, Yeah, So you know 350 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,039 it's it's it's fun I think, to kind of bring to light sort of 351 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:18,279 historic history basically, and like fun like cards that are uh, cards that 352 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,759 you know, maybe people don't even maybe some people don't even know that these 353 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:25,000 cards exist potentially, So it's you know, because maybe they're a little bit 354 00:22:25,039 --> 00:22:26,160 older, maybe they're out of the generation, all these kinds of things. 355 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,240 So I mean it's definitely, you know, it's definitely really exciting. Um, 356 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,519 you did this for football and doing it for baseball now, so that's 357 00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:36,799 um yeah, definitely definitely something that hopefully everybody checks out and you know, 358 00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:38,440 picks their cards. There's tons of I actually, I actually you know that 359 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,559 I'm thinking about it. I can just uh yeah, and right, I 360 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:44,960 mean you're really you're touching on kind of like the entire purpose of all of 361 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,160 this, right, And what we've done is and when I say we, 362 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:52,799 I'm talking Ray from Philly, UM, Mike, Steve Line, um. 363 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,079 And what we're doing is we basically have taken the principles of or the mission 364 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,240 statement of the Baseball Card of Fame, which is, um, I'm sorry, 365 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:07,680 the Baseball Hall of Fame, which is preserve history, honor excellence, 366 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:12,119 and um passing it on to the next generation. And that's kind of what 367 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,519 we're doing with this, except we're taking twisting it with a with a flavor 368 00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:21,279 of the hobby. Right, We're taking the cards that have What we're doing 369 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,559 is we're honoring history. We're looking back at the history of cards, and 370 00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:30,119 we're honoring those cards that have meant something to us, that have impacted the 371 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,880 hobby, right, But at the same time we're we're we're also um honoring 372 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:41,279 hobby excellence cards that have really stood out the test of time with within the 373 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:48,279 hearts and minds of collectors, Cards that are really have this artistic design to 374 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,000 it that their images are kind of seered into the hearts and minds of collectors. 375 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,880 And what we're doing is that we're hopefully we're creating this list not created 376 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:02,359 by some publication, but created by hobbyists uh in an annual vote, so 377 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,519 that the next generation can go back to say ten, twenty thirty years from 378 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:11,200 now, and they're asking those types of questions what are the most important cards 379 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:17,680 throughout history, and they'll be able to see that in our in our vote. 380 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,880 Absolutely. Yeah, it's definitely like like like you were saying that, 381 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,799 I think the history behind a lot of these cards for the and actually I 382 00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:26,680 think it's probably a great list to even you know, just check out even 383 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,559 if you're learning, if you're learning about baseball cards, because you know, 384 00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:33,799 from my perspective, anytime there's a chance to learn something new with with some 385 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,680 with whether it's this or whether it's a new piece of content. I'm always 386 00:24:37,759 --> 00:24:42,920 in favor of pushing people to that to learn something new to uh, either 387 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,079 you know, find them maybe there's a card that a player that you never 388 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,839 knew about, or maybe there's a player that you've always heard about and you 389 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,319 never knew that there's a card that exists. And I think that's kind of 390 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,680 another great part about this, this this list that you've put together and kind 391 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,759 of all the voting and stuff like that. Um. Yeah, definitely very 392 00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:03,480 exciting and thanks Adam. And we've also you know, we take the ballot, 393 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,000 uh and we try to represent every era, right, so it's not 394 00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:11,759 like all pre war, it's not all vintage, but it's it's like every 395 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:18,400 era is represented, so you'll have a broad scope of choices to choose from. 396 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,920 That's why we do forty cards, right exactly. Um. And then 397 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:25,400 you know, I actually something I do have sort of a question, so 398 00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:29,440 it's sort of wait, is that is this correct? It ended at the 399 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,759 the each eurow Albert Poolholes two thousand and one. Uh, you know, 400 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,680 was there a specific era that you guys were looking at when you were putting 401 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,160 this together? Or was it kind of like just I guess these are sort 402 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,920 of these are as new on them on the on the list here, but 403 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,119 so like, was there like a cutoff date when you were looking at the 404 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,359 cards that you want to include on this list, because like, I mean, 405 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,759 two thousand and one, there there are some probably decent cards that have 406 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:56,759 come after that, but you know, I think that that two thousand and 407 00:25:56,759 --> 00:26:00,440 one, in my opinion top set is is actually I don't off it's like 408 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:04,039 underrated or if it's it's very iconic with each row with that each row card. 409 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,960 I mean, that's actually one of the first sets I really remember collecting 410 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,920 if I'm gonna be playing on us when I was like yeah, when I 411 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,720 was like a kid. So for me, that's a really iconic set. 412 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,920 But like, did you guys have a cutoff date? And that's why two 413 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,079 thousand and one was kind of the last year on that list? Not necessarily 414 00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:21,799 we have cards that are you know, we have Mike Trout made it into 415 00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:25,240 I believe the second year or maybe it was the first year that we've done 416 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,720 it, but that we have more modern cards in the Hall of Fame already, 417 00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:32,720 So there really isn't a cutoff date. It's really the voice of the 418 00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:37,599 people. So our kind of processes. We'll take there's forty cards on the 419 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,559 ballot, so ten of them are going to get inducted this year. That 420 00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:48,000 brings thirty cards remaining. We take the bottom five percent cards that are that 421 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:52,759 didn't really make the cut, those five those five cards are removed from the 422 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:56,119 ballot as well, so that leaves us now at twenty five. And then 423 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:02,119 what we do is throughout the year we take recommendations from other hobbyists for next 424 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:07,000 year's ballot. So on the following ballot, we have fifteen slots that we 425 00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:11,839 need to fill. We need we need fifteen cards to create that year's ballot. 426 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,440 And and that's kind of it's it's the voice of the of the hobby. 427 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,680 Whatever they recommend for us to put on the ballot, we will sit 428 00:27:18,759 --> 00:27:22,160 down and consider, and if it makes the cut, we include it into 429 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,599 the next ballot. Absolutely right, I mean, thank you so much for 430 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,039 coming on, Victor. You are you going to be at the You're gonna 431 00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:30,119 be at the National Are you make that? Goodness? Yeah? Yeah, 432 00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:34,119 he'll be there. That's good here. I absolutely love that. Um yeah, 433 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,440 So anything else that you want to like shout out Victor before we let 434 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,680 you go here. That's it, man, I appreciate you guys. It's 435 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,200 time have fun. Absolutely all right, thank you for coming on, Victor. 436 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,839 You got it this end. Yeah, I'm voting for the eighty four 437 00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:51,119 Fleer Glitton Hoverard card. Nice. I actually have that card in a PSA 438 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,240 ten. So I do like that card. You're you're you're obligated, You're 439 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,839 obligated to vote for that card, basically obligated. Well, I can't wait 440 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,680 to hear the induction speeches from the cards. Yeah, definitely, yeah, 441 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,920 yeah, yeah right, yeah, Well we'll get some like a we'll get 442 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,319 some like AI generated like the speeches like because well, I think there was 443 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,400 like you know, when when AI was very uh not even really necessarily primitive, 444 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,599 it was like I think there was one where they had I saw like 445 00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:18,559 a video of like the um what was it, the Honis Wagner like singing 446 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:22,440 some like random song. I think it was like yeah, so but and 447 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,799 now they probably somehow they could get actually real Honess Wagner to like talk about 448 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,440 the cards, because that's just how crazy, how crazy AI has gotten, 449 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:33,920 which I mean, that's a whole another you know, that's a whole other 450 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,480 topic for another day, is how crazy AI has gotten. Um, So 451 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,480 I'm gonna kick it back to actually, uh the p P s a conversation 452 00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:47,000 here, and like I was saying, so with vaulting, I in my 453 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:52,160 opinion, I always thought that vaulting was was sort of I guess the future. 454 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,599 I mean, that's one way that I honestly thought sort of that the 455 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,480 hobby would move towards. Now hearing people's opinions within the hobby, I can 456 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:03,359 see how people would be opposed to it because they want the physical card, 457 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:04,839 They want to be able to hold the card in their hand. They don't 458 00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:11,880 want to vault it at all. But I think the digital trading aspect of 459 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,559 the cards themselves I always thought was a really smart innovation and what at the 460 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:18,960 time, it's not even necessarily really an innovation like com C has been doing 461 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,400 this for so long, and they kind of, in my opinion, they're 462 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:26,200 a hobby leader in this area because we've seen companies come and go. I 463 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,119 mean, unfortunately, star Stock just as one example that I can think of 464 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,440 off top of my head that seemed like a company that had a decent amount 465 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,319 of promise with a similar business model of having a vault, and you know, 466 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:38,759 they had this unit, they had a really great website, they had 467 00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:41,440 all this kind of stuff, and then they sort of veered off the path. 468 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:45,880 I thought that they maybe they didn't really stick to what they originally built 469 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:51,000 the site as, and you know, com C has kind of stayed the 470 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:56,079 path and sort of built built a site that has it works. I mean, 471 00:29:56,119 --> 00:29:59,519 that's I think another thing. And I think I think in their tweet 472 00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:03,400 here they so thirty million cards if I think that's probably the number they have 473 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,640 on their platform. Um. You know, I think I think that there's 474 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,759 a lot of it's similar to I was it Golden. Yeah. I think 475 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:17,079 like with Golden's vault essentially, UM, I think that there's a lot of 476 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:22,359 potential for maybe someone to come in and potentially by com C or you know, 477 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,599 work with them on building maybe a different site or something along these lines. 478 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:29,319 Because like it's it's not necessarily that the site is hard to use. 479 00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:32,240 It's actually pretty much all laid out and I think it's fairly simple to use. 480 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,440 UM. But they haven't really they haven't really updated the site. I 481 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,440 guess it's maybe the one of the things I've noticed about them, but at 482 00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:40,599 the same time, like, I think the site works really well, like 483 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,759 once you get to know it. Uh so you know, Mike, I'll 484 00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,079 throw it to you, like what are your you know, what are your 485 00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:48,799 thoughts on like vaulting, I guess in general, like do you do you 486 00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:52,119 like it? Do you not like it? Or you in the half and 487 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,279 half like you are with me, Like who do you think? Well when 488 00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:59,039 you talk about vaults, do you mean like I send a card to the 489 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:02,279 PSA vault orthing like that. Yeah, pretty much. I mean because like 490 00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:06,599 then then you can have the marketplace where you can buy and sell the card 491 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,839 without actually having the card in your hands basically, So I do that with 492 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,240 cam C. I have a cam C I think they call it a port 493 00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:18,319 or whatever. I have a cam C account and I have I don't know 494 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,799 dozens, if not hundreds of cards there. I'm going to send some more 495 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,880 cards. I think that cam C fits in a niche niche I never know 496 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,599 how to pronounce that word of certain level of value of cards, And they 497 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,480 make it super easy. And I know you're the web design guy, but 498 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:40,759 they make it super easy to price your cards and to search and filter on 499 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,720 cards that you're looking for. So if I want a Shane McClanahan, I 500 00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:51,640 collect McClanahan Rookie card that's numbered and not graded. It's easy in the filters, 501 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,720 just to click, click, click, click, and boom there are 502 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,799 the nine cards that fit. Right. But you know, sending my don't. 503 00:31:57,079 --> 00:32:01,279 I don't really deal in high level cards very much, so sending cards 504 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:05,960 to a vault to trade with people wouldn't appeal to me. But it's it's 505 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,759 I think it's a cool addition to the hobby, right, And you know, 506 00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:09,799 Logan, I don't kick it to you as well. I think maybe 507 00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:14,640 you sort of mentioned this before Victor came on. But like is with com 508 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:17,440 c is, it's something that's in your in your wheelhouse or your reptoire. 509 00:32:17,559 --> 00:32:21,799 When you're buying and selling cards. Are you mainly just buying and selling from 510 00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:23,680 shows or ebays and that way you can get the stuff and have it like 511 00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:27,400 on hand. Well, I mean, first of all, when you look 512 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,720 at cam see there they are pretty much in a way they're they're kind of 513 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,440 like you said, they're a vaulting service, but but it's like an open 514 00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:37,839 vault. It's things that you can see all the time. It's unlike some 515 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,160 of the other vaults where you have your own personal collection and you're vaulting it 516 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,960 and really nobody else can see that unless you trade it or sell it, 517 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,039 or have it brought back from the vault or whatever you're gonna do with it. 518 00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:51,880 Um I do use cam C. I like com see a lot. 519 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,559 I have a lot of cards up there that I have never seen it, 520 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:59,279 never touched in real life, that need to come home. But I don't. 521 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,839 I'm not. I'm not an investor. I just I'm a buyer. 522 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,079 I don't sell. I mean, you can ask anybody I really want to 523 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:09,359 sell cards. I just buy cards for my own personal collection. I guess 524 00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:13,359 one day, when I retire in the next three or four years, maybe 525 00:33:13,359 --> 00:33:16,640 I might sell some cards here there. I don't know. But um I 526 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:21,359 like com see a lot. I like Tim and and all those guys, 527 00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:27,160 they're Andy and everybody. Um Uh, I do I do think that there. 528 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,920 You know, there is a need for a service like com C, 529 00:33:30,119 --> 00:33:31,799 and it's an easy thing to do. I mean, once you have cards 530 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,039 up there, you know I've actually, you know, sent cards a lot 531 00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:39,119 or to other people and things like that. I do. I do like 532 00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:44,599 com C. H I do not. I'm not a big fan of vaults 533 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:51,000 like Golden or or eBay or any of those vaulting services because again, I'm 534 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:53,359 a touchy feely guy. I gotta I gotta have the cards in my hand. 535 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,920 I want my cards, you know. And if you're doing that, 536 00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:00,759 it's almost kind of it's not an NFT when you because there is a physical 537 00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:05,200 representation of the card, but it's still kind of almost an NFT because you're 538 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,239 you're only seeing it digitally, You're not seeing it in real life. I'm 539 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,880 just not a fan. I mean, I think I think those tools that 540 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:19,079 they have, those those vaults for PSA and Golden and eBay, all those 541 00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:22,480 are more, i think, in a way geared towards people who are investing. 542 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,320 You know. Com C is more of an everyday man's platform, right 543 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,880 Yeah. And I think actually I want to highlight one of Ziggie's comments here 544 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,960 about trading on com C, and that's kind of something that I've been thinking 545 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,000 about as well. Like when if a company, whichever company can figure out 546 00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:44,519 like trading, that would I think that's going to be a pretty big innovation 547 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,039 within the hobby, Like because you may even have like you'll have like virtual 548 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,320 trade knights basically, like you'll be able to like I guess this is this 549 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,079 is an sort of brainstorming and kind of thinking things off the cuff here, 550 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:58,280 But like if you were able to go to you know, a trade Knight 551 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,840 at the National and you had your your cam C or your Golden or whatever 552 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,599 vault, and you know, you had each card maybe has like a QR 553 00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:07,800 code and if you and then actually it's you know what it is. It's 554 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,599 like it's like I'm not sure if you guys have done this or if this 555 00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:15,400 is if this is in your generation. But like Pokemon, you could connect 556 00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:19,360 the game boys with like the and some people in the audience may know what 557 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,639 I'm talking about, but like back in the day with the game Boy advances, 558 00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:24,800 you could play Pokemon and if you had a chord, you could connect 559 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:30,840 the two game boys and you could trade and you could actually trade Pokemon with 560 00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:32,480 like to your friends. So I think it would be kind of similar. 561 00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:35,840 Obviously there's no I don't know if there's a chord or whatever. If it's 562 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,480 how they would do it, this is where some company needs to think of 563 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,840 how to do it. This is I will be expecting some sort of residual 564 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,639 check from whichever company thinks about this, because this was my this was my 565 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:49,280 idea, and maybe I should like patent it or something. But you could 566 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,719 get like a QR code that represents your card and somebody on one end could 567 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,960 scan it, and then you could scan their card on the other end, 568 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,039 and then and then it maybe goes to like the third party within the app 569 00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:04,239 or something. I just think that there's a lot of potential within trading. 570 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,360 It's not necessarily I don't do a lot of trading just because I mean, 571 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,840 I don't know. I do more buying and selling, I guess necessarily. 572 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,679 But like whatever company can figure out I guess trading the best. You know, 573 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,360 that's going to be probably a pretty big innovation, hopefully for um hopefully 574 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,400 I mean I guess, well hopefully within within the hobbyist was that's maybe one 575 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,880 of the new I don't know if a company, I guess wouldn't be able 576 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,559 to figure that out or how they would be able to do it. If 577 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:30,760 any companies have any if they need any ideas, just come to me and 578 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,119 I'll only charge you like about a million about a million a year for my 579 00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:37,599 ideas. It's it's a total I'll fanatics for example, they want to come, 580 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:38,760 I'll only a million, that's all. It's all masking here, or 581 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,880 just pay off all my student loans, either one one of the two. 582 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,320 Well, you know upper deck epack, you can trade there. That's that's 583 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,360 that's a that's a trading platform that you can trade on. That exactly solely 584 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,679 a trading platform, but you can trade on it, right, definitely. 585 00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:57,760 I want to address us sports cards comment there isn't the National trying to eliminate 586 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,840 trade knights. Card Porn tweeted out or today that they were in touch with 587 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,119 the people who run the National and they deny that that's true. They have 588 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,599 seen the rumors and they say that the rumors are not true. They are 589 00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:13,440 not trying to eliminate trade knights at all. Yeah. I saw that last 590 00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:16,719 night on Twitter. Yes, they are not trying to eliminate that. I 591 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,960 think. I think it's only a good thing. Yeah. I don't see 592 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:25,079 how you can try to eliminate free trade anyway in any any former fashion. 593 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,840 Yeah, I from what I saw, I think that they were talking about 594 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,320 the hotels in the area, weren't They weren't allowing people to like hang out 595 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,000 in the lobbies in or use like the conference areas, which is where a 596 00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:43,519 lot of the like after hours trade Knights have kind of end up going to. 597 00:37:43,599 --> 00:37:45,119 And I think that's sort of but you know, we'll see him, 598 00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:51,280 I mean realistically, I mean, I'd hate to be like to try and 599 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,360 stop us, but like I'll I'll be interested to see if people still try 600 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,880 and do like the Trade Knights in like the lobbies of the hotels and see 601 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,360 how that goes, because I don't know. I mean that's you know, 602 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,119 if you go to those like it's it's packed. It's like it's basically just 603 00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:05,599 as a homeless just as packed as some of the National, like some of 604 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:08,320 the show like itself, like the National still spread out. Um, you 605 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,119 know you're not you're not necessarily bumping into people on some of the days. 606 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:15,519 But uh, you know, I guess, I guess we'll see what happens. 607 00:38:15,519 --> 00:38:17,920 I mean, I think there's like a couple of hotels within the area, 608 00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:22,559 like within kind of that Rosemont Convention Center that you know, we'll we'll 609 00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,920 see, we'll see how it goes. I mean, if if I don't 610 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,760 necessarily know, I mean I don't necessarily know. I mean I think there 611 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,239 was that that funny video I think like Rick Flair or something. I don't 612 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:36,039 know if you guys saw this video from like the Chicago maybe it was maybe 613 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:39,400 it was last year's National or is the twenty twenty one National Chicago. Like 614 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,400 Rick Flair was like leaving one of the hotel hotels during the trade night. 615 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,199 Everyone was like wooing him as he was going. It was like a super 616 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,239 it was. Actually it was a pretty funny video of the surface. I 617 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,119 think either last National, the National before that. Um, and yeah, 618 00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,679 like I said, I mean, speaking of the National will kind of get 619 00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,920 into I guess our our our excitement for it. I mean, it's it's 620 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,079 it's one of the best shows in the Chicago I think is the best venue 621 00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:07,079 that they have for the Nationals, so the two other two other Nationals that 622 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,719 I've gone to at ben Chicago, it's my favorite venue. I just walk 623 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,000 in. I remember the first time walking in just looking around and being like 624 00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:16,199 whoa, this is like crazy, this is so awesome. So you know, 625 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,280 Mike, I'll kick I'll kick it to you first, Like what, 626 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,679 um, what are you excited for? Like, I know that's kind of 627 00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:23,679 a broad question, but like, do you have any like what's the number 628 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,880 one thing on your list that you're trying to do? Once you get there, 629 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,159 meeting a bunch of new people is the most exciting part. People don't 630 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,119 really want to hear about that type of thing though, But I am going 631 00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:37,719 to the YouTube get together Thursday night with all the YouTube personalities and people who 632 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,639 aren't necessarily on YouTube but want to hang out with people that they watch. 633 00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:46,639 And then the most exciting thing to me is just walking the floor and scene 634 00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:52,480 cards that are way out of my price range, the rare cards, the 635 00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:58,000 really cool stuff. I love that stuff. I'll be putting out videos with 636 00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:02,880 things like that on my YouTube channel probably a week past the show. Yeah. 637 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,280 Absolutely. And I always tell this story at the twenty twenty one National 638 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,360 I had brought like a bunch of cards I was looking to sell, and 639 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,360 then I was like looking at someone's booth, like preparing myself to be like, 640 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,400 hey, do you want to buy some of this stuff? And then 641 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,119 some kid walked up with like one of those like card cases and he pulled 642 00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:20,599 out like three different Patrick Mahomes Rpas. I'm like, Okay, I think 643 00:40:20,599 --> 00:40:23,159 I'm out of I'm just gonna not try and sell anything like I got like 644 00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:27,960 seller's anxiety because I was just like this this twelve this twelve year old has 645 00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:31,079 Patrick Mahomes RPAS and I'm trying to sell like like a promotional charzard that I 646 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:35,159 pulled out of one of those random tins. I'm like for like ten Bucks. 647 00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,480 It's like it's like they were there in the whole nother week than I 648 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:38,679 am. So you know, welcome, help take it to you as well, 649 00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:42,400 Like kind of same question, what's what's like the number one thing you 650 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,440 got on your list that you're excited for for the nationale coming up? In 651 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,760 this and this it's this upcoming week. Well, the National has the older 652 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,360 I've gotten to National has become more like Christmas for me as far as it 653 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,639 used to be. When I was a kid, during Christmas, it was 654 00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:59,800 all about the presence. Now it's all about being with my family. It's 655 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,079 just same thing now for the National. I can't wait to see all of 656 00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:07,440 my friends. This will be I think my nineteenth National, So I can't 657 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,320 wait to see you guys, everybody. I've got so many friends. I 658 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,199 will probably spend the majority of my time just hanging out with my friends, 659 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,519 talking, you know, hugging, just just hanging out and having fun. 660 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,639 And that's the thing I'm looking forward to absolutely the most, for sure. 661 00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:27,760 Yeah, I'm I'm basically in the same boat as you, Like, I 662 00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:30,679 don't really honestly do like I like I just said, to my example, 663 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,719 I don't do much buying and selling at the show because it's just like I 664 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,679 can't even compete with these twelve year olds, so I'm not even gonna try 665 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,960 to. So yeah, and I think both actually that was both of your 666 00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:44,079 examples there, Mike and Logan. Was just meeting people and seeing people maybe 667 00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:45,719 for the first time, maybe seeing them for the first time in a while, 668 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,079 like you know, that was one of the things that really I was 669 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,079 so like in twenty twenty one, after the Nashal canceled in twenty twenty that 670 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,679 was one of the things that really was I think that was my favorite part 671 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,440 of the national was just seeing seeing all these people that I had built friendships 672 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,320 with online. And that was even before I did Hobby hot Line, So 673 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,000 like now I've got like a whole another like Hobby hot Line and Hobby News 674 00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:12,880 Daily, I got like a whole another like like crew of like thirty or 675 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,159 forty people that I'm gonna be probably meeting for the first time. Uh So, 676 00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:19,000 that's that's gonna be like super exciting. Uh So, Mike, I'll 677 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,360 ask you this, like, uh from a buying and selling perspective, like, 678 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,360 would you have anything on your list that you're that you're looking to buy? 679 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,360 Like is that something that you're planning on doing while you're there? Yeah. 680 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,159 On the low level, I'm looking for more PSA slabs of Carl Stremski 681 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,400 during his playing years. Um. But on the high level, I'm looking 682 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:43,599 for like Ted Williams playing years cards nineteen fifties. I'm not into the forties 683 00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:51,719 yet, and i want a low grade Jackie Robinson fifty six tops maybe things 684 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,840 like that. That's like my high end card that I will buy. So 685 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,519 yeah, those are the things that I'm really looking for. The most is 686 00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:04,639 fifties and maybe some sixties yascarts. Nice? Nice, um, And I 687 00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,320 mean same same question, do you logan, is there anything that you are 688 00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:09,639 looking to buy while you're there, Like is that something that you got on 689 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,400 your agenda? Yeah? I mean, you know they say that that there's 690 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,199 something there for everybody at the National and that is true because I'm a NASCAR 691 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,079 collector. It's very niche market, but uh, there is going to be 692 00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:27,000 a good bit of Nascar stuff there. And the things I'm going to be 693 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,119 looking for especially are like Dale Earnhart Senior autographs, any kind of other rare 694 00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:35,320 autographs, maybe some Richard Petty things like that, any other rare issues. 695 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,159 Like last year I picked up a couple of McDonald's sets that were autographed that 696 00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:45,000 were NASCAR sets from the early nineties, which included Dale Earnhart Senior. So 697 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,000 those that was a nice pick up. So there's always something. Uh. 698 00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:52,679 The thing that that Val and I like to do is when we hit the 699 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,960 ground on Tuesday afternoon, we're gonna get there, we'll be there, we'll 700 00:43:54,960 --> 00:44:00,320 be in there before the show opens. We're gonna start going down each aisle 701 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,920 and he'll take one side, I'll take the other, and we'll ask everybody 702 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,239 in there do you have any NASCAR cards or you know? And we do 703 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,159 collect some Formula one, but a lot of people, and a lot of 704 00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:12,480 people believe it, not get that confused. When you say do you have 705 00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:15,360 any NASCAR cards? They'll whip out Formula one card. Yeah, and it 706 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:21,480 happens a lot or they leave them at home, but we will, we 707 00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:24,320 will be able to find a good bit of cards to buy. I've got 708 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,840 some cash, just a little bit of cash. But uh, last year 709 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,199 I had a good National I found a lot of Arnhart senior autos and a 710 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,840 lot of nice cards and sets and plus the other thing I'm looking for. 711 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,239 And I mean, and I don't know if any of you guys out there, 712 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,360 I know that some people out there do follow me on Twitter. I 713 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,440 have what's called the My Sophomoric Slabs Showcase on PSA set Reistory, And what 714 00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:52,039 it basically is is just a showcase of funny cards, like like the the 715 00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:55,159 Glenn Hubbard card. I have that card. So it's all these cards that 716 00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:00,639 are funny, funny names like Dick Pole and Dick Fell and all these all 717 00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:02,800 these things. So I'll be looking for funny cards too, funny you know, 718 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,480 funny looking cards or funny name cards. I'll be doing that. So 719 00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:09,679 yeah, I've got a lot to do between hanging out with my friends looking 720 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,559 for cards. Uh, it's gonna be busy, for sure, but it's 721 00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:15,800 gonna be a lot of fun. Yeah, absolutely, And I mean my 722 00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:20,719 Uh, I mean, I guess we'll kind of maybe go around now with 723 00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,440 round robin, with a couple of tips, a couple of tricks. I'll 724 00:45:23,559 --> 00:45:27,840 kind of start it off. If you are looking, if you're if you 725 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,719 are like Logan or you're like Valing, you're kind of walking around and you 726 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,679 see a card that you might want to pick up, or you see a 727 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,679 showcase that has a bunch of the cards. Uh. You know, my 728 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:42,079 suggestion is make sure you're writing down the booth number because there is one hunt 729 00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:45,280 because for the most part, most booths are going to look all very similar, 730 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,800 and you probably will forget which booth had the card that you were looking 731 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,239 for. Um. Also, another maybe tip or a trick is like, 732 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,920 if you are looking for a card that's very common, it might be worth 733 00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:01,760 um, it might be worth waiting until later on in the week to buy 734 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:07,360 that card, in my opinion, because you probably are going to get dealers 735 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,199 who are willing to give you a deal on a card later on in the 736 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:14,119 week because most of the dealers they're coming to sell everything. Like there there 737 00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:16,000 probably are some dealers who are buying, but for the most part, you're 738 00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:19,719 all the dealers they they're going there to sell, and they don't want to 739 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,960 bring anything back, Like they don't want to they already they already traveled with 740 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,719 all these cards. They don't really want to bring anything back. So if 741 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,800 there, if you're there on like a late Saturday, or you're there on 742 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,199 Sunday, there's a decent shot that you probably can get some of the cards 743 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,920 a little bit cheaper than you would have maybe if you were there on a 744 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,719 Wednesday or a Thursday. And you know, those are kind of my main 745 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,800 little tips there. Uh, Mike, I'll kick it over to you, 746 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,000 like, do you have any you know, what are what are some of 747 00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:46,639 your tips and tricks you have, like one or two things that you'd like 748 00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:50,559 to share with the audience and kind of maybe someone who's going to the National 749 00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:52,360 for the first time, do you have any tips for them? Well, 750 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,719 this is just my second National. I went last year when it was in 751 00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:00,559 Atlantic City. It's driving distance for me and there was no internet access, 752 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:04,159 there's no cellular, no nothing. And so I was anticipating the same thing 753 00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:07,760 because I've heard the same thing about Chicago, and I created a spreadsheet of 754 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:14,599 all the cards that I am targeting and reasonable prices within various grades would I 755 00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:20,800 would look for. I've heard that there might be cellular access there this time. 756 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,880 I'm not sure, but I'm still prepared knowing comps the values that I 757 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,280 would be willing to say for the cards that I'm looking for. Now, 758 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,440 I'm also going to just buy things that I don't know the values for, 759 00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:37,880 And that's part of the joy. I guess. Yeah, don't rely you 760 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:43,920 like it is weird nowadays to kind of have to rely on like stuff offline. 761 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,079 I suppose you could call it like you should like build your plan out 762 00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:51,639 as if you are planning and don't, you probably won't have as much sell 763 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,599 service as you're expecting. I think that's kind of another good point. At 764 00:47:53,639 --> 00:47:57,519 Chicago, the last time that I was there, it was fine. Like 765 00:47:57,559 --> 00:48:00,320 I was doing a lot of like tiktoks and like videos and like, hey, 766 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,679 I was fine posting them. I wasn't really running into an issue. 767 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,519 Bring UM battery chargers. That's another kind of good thing. I think if 768 00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:08,639 you are UM, you know, if you're going to be planning on recording 769 00:48:08,679 --> 00:48:12,519 content, you're planning on going to be maybe potentially using your phone to like 770 00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:15,599 look up comps, bring like an extra charger if you have it just so 771 00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:17,800 that way you don't have to like leave and come back to charge your phone. 772 00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,440 Uh. So you know, Logan, I'll let you go here. 773 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,159 You know, you're obviously a veteran of the national Uh what are you know 774 00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:28,599 if you're if someone's maybe going for the first time, or maybe it's the 775 00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:30,679 first couple of times, what are some tips that you have for people that 776 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,440 are going to be going to this show? Um, my biggest thing is 777 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,000 if you really want a quiet, nice bathroom, go to the bathroom upstairs. 778 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,400 That that that's a big thing. Uh. You know, getting back 779 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,119 to what you were talking about about making lists and things. This was from 780 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,039 last year and if you can see this, this was on my phone. 781 00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:53,840 Is I went through and found boots that those are the things that I saw, 782 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,440 So I knew exactly where to go back and exactly where to go find 783 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,119 these things. Because you're right, this year it's gonna be even bigger. 784 00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:05,280 It's a third size bigger. I think they went from what four hundred thousand 785 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,960 square feet to six hundred thousand square feet. Yeah, I think they opened 786 00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:10,159 up and they opened up a wing that hadn't previously been opened. I think 787 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,880 so, yes, So it's gonna be even bigger. And it's so I 788 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,239 mean, you're gonna have a hard time if you think you know an area 789 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,880 where it's at. Trust me, I've been there, done that. I 790 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,840 thought I knew where something was. Yeah, wrong, though I never saw 791 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,800 it again. So that's why I do make these lists. But you know, 792 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,519 I'll take some of the basic things that I do. I mean, 793 00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:37,199 I take the snacks and food there are are well overpriced. It's just ridiculous. 794 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,039 So I always have a couple of bottles of water with me in my 795 00:49:39,079 --> 00:49:44,719 backpack. I'll have some you know, like granola bars or a Snickers bar 796 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,920 or something to eat with me. It's not that I'm cheap, it's just 797 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,400 that, you know, I can keep drinking water and eating my snacks as 798 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,280 I'm walking. I don't have to go to the snack bars, sit down 799 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,760 and do something. Plus, it is, like I said, it is 800 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,519 very pricey. So that's that's one thing. And of course everybody talks about 801 00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:02,000 the comfortable shoes that you've got to have those. If you don't your feet 802 00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:07,920 you will be dying there because the floors are concrete. The only place that's 803 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,320 really gonna have any soft flooring as of any consequence is gonna be taps. 804 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,079 They're gonna have their really nice cushy carpet. So that's always nice to go 805 00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:20,840 in there. It's like, ah, that feels so good. But it's 806 00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:24,400 it's a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to it. I can't wait 807 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,320 to see everybody. Yeah, And you know, I think another kind of 808 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,800 random tip that actually I recently I'm gonna be doing this this year I haven't 809 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:36,440 done in the past, is I'm gonna be getting those like little liquid IV 810 00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:40,280 like pouches because like, whether you think it or not, like, if 811 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,280 you're gonna be walking around the show all day, you're gonna get the You're 812 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,519 probably gonna get a little bit de hydrated. And to be honest, like 813 00:50:45,559 --> 00:50:47,880 you know, ten thousand steps. I mean I try and do the ten 814 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,039 thousand steps so I have the fit betteror whatever. And I like seeing the 815 00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:53,679 little explosions when I get ten thousand steps every day and it vibrates and I'm 816 00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:55,519 looking at I'm like, all right, nice, ten thousand. There we 817 00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:59,960 go. You're gonna be at twenty thousand for some days there because just you're 818 00:51:00,119 --> 00:51:02,159 walking around, you're, uh, You're you're going to all these You're going 819 00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:05,280 to all the different booths, and I mean, like you said, it's 820 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,199 they expanded the space of this year's show, and I mean even you know, 821 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,440 it's very easy to get lost. Um. I know a couple of 822 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,840 times I've been like walking around and I'm like, Okay, I'll try and 823 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,400 walk from one end to the other because I'm like trying to go from one 824 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,840 booth to like maybe like the stage or something. And this was one of 825 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,039 I think this was maybe the first year that I went. I was like 826 00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:29,440 half paying attention and I was sort of I don't know why I was doing 827 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,320 this. I was like kind of following somebody like because I thought that maybe 828 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,400 they were going in the right direction for some reason. But I was just 829 00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:37,119 using my phone and I kept like taking less and then I look up and 830 00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:39,639 I'm back where I started. It's like it's very it's very easy to get 831 00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:46,599 lost in that in that venue. So, you know, compared to Atlantic 832 00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:51,360 City, Mike, Um, you know, Chicago is actually my favorite venue. 833 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,639 So, uh, what's something that you're what's something that you're looking forward 834 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:59,360 to? Uh? Maybe I guess compared to last year's National versus this year's 835 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,559 Mike, Well, I've heard that Chicago is tighter, but then they've opened 836 00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:07,360 up fifty percent more floor space according to you guys, so maybe that'll help. 837 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,440 Hopefully that'll help, and they just didn't just pack in a lot more 838 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:17,360 stuff. I'm excited to see what the floor space looks like. I enjoy 839 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,480 the corporate booths and Ziggy is talking about giveaways. I didn't see any giveaways 840 00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:25,039 last year, but I was only there for one day, and I'm excited 841 00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:30,039 to spend more time actually roaming around the show, which I didn't really have 842 00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:31,360 a whole lot of time too last year. I just went to a bunch 843 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,679 of tables of cards that I was like the eras that I was looking for, 844 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,559 and that was about it. Yeah, you will have like the silver 845 00:52:37,639 --> 00:52:43,119 packs which come with like if you buy either. I think it's like it 846 00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:45,079 depends, like there are different lists of what you need to buy at like 847 00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:50,840 the Tops booth or the Panini Booth to get like one of the exclusive national 848 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,400 packs, which some years they have like national exclusive cards in those packs, 849 00:52:54,440 --> 00:53:00,800 or in some years they just have like random more rare cards in those packs. 850 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,079 Um, but yeah, I mean so the silver packs are always you 851 00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:06,159 know, pretty exciting. I don't know what it'll be this year. I 852 00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:10,920 think I think I bought an optic baseball from brom Banini just so I give 853 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,280 the silver packs. It was like, I'm not even gonna lie. It 854 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:15,639 was like one of the worst products I've ever opened. It was just like 855 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,920 I didn't like because it's it's you know, it's the last logan there. 856 00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:23,039 Um, probably the internet kicked out for a second, but yeah, it's 857 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,559 uh, those silver packs are definitely fun to fun to see. You know, 858 00:53:27,559 --> 00:53:30,119 you're going to see all the breakers there, maybe join a break if 859 00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:31,480 you want to, and you can see them do the break live. That's 860 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,960 probably going to be pretty exciting. And like I said, you will also 861 00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:42,760 be able to see us Hobby Hobby Hotline on the main stage basically basically same 862 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,760 time that we usually do the show. I think it's an hour. Um, 863 00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:49,320 I think it's an hour. How does it you know, Mike, 864 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,800 how does it work? Is it? Is it it's an hour behind, 865 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,400 so eleven am would be noon or is it? You got it? Okay, 866 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,559 So so it's it's an actually an hour ahead of when we usually you're 867 00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,800 doing the show on Saturdays. Um, but that's going to be exciting. 868 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,320 I mean, I'm sure we're after Okay, you're right right, it'll be 869 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,119 like noon Eastern, which eleven Central or whatever. So uh yeah, it's 870 00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:12,880 just basically an hour different. Uh this this next Saturday, that's when we'll 871 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,920 be doing our live show. I'm not totally sure what our plan is. 872 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,159 Like I said, if there's you know, if people in the comments are 873 00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:22,239 there and they want to shout out their comments like uh or or you know, 874 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,239 whatever they whatever they want to do. I'm not sure if we're gonna 875 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:28,320 be live streaming. I think we should. We should probably be. I 876 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,000 think the National has a stream where they stream the people that are on the 877 00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:37,320 stage. So I'm not one hundred percent sure if we will um, if 878 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,159 we'll be live, or if our or our channel will be live, or 879 00:54:39,159 --> 00:54:43,079 if we'll be live on the National. I mean check honestly, just check 880 00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,960 out our social media like at hobby Hotline to see. UM. I'm sure 881 00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:50,679 someone somebody will probably tweet out if we're live or however, you can watch 882 00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:52,880 the show if you're not unfortunately not going to be at the National. UM. 883 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,360 I think, you know, I think we're gonna wrap things up here 884 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,760 actually on today's show, we're getting close to that hour mark, and I 885 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,960 think but since since we've lost the logan there, I don't know where he 886 00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:05,960 went. Um, you know, I I'll kick do you Mike with your 887 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,800 final thoughts? Like? What are what? Um? What do you got 888 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,320 like a give your shout outs to anybody you're looking to give shout outs to? 889 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,679 What are your what are your kind of final thoughts for today's episode? 890 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,679 Oh, I don't know. I mean, Ziggy's got a lot of good 891 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,519 advice here, he says. Whatnot had huge giveaways? Remember last year's two 892 00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:25,039 eighty six flearbox pack giveaways. Um, I'm waiting. They emailed me a 893 00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:29,960 couple of months ago about something that they're going to be doing in there in 894 00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:35,000 their booth. Um. It sounded really interesting and they haven't seen any details 895 00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:37,199 on it. But if I end up getting those, it was so interesting, 896 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,480 I might do a video on that on my channel in the next couple 897 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:45,280 of years. They did another eighty six Flear in the next couple of days. 898 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,679 I should say, sorry, not the next couple of years. Um. 899 00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:52,159 It just was really unique, which is you know obviously what they're trying 900 00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:55,119 to do. Um, but uh, you know, selling there's it, 901 00:55:55,199 --> 00:55:59,079 says Michael Jordan. Theme is all I can say at this point because that's 902 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:02,639 really all that I know. Gotcha, Yeah makes sense. Um, And 903 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,880 my final thoughts here for the show is if you are going to be at 904 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,440 the National, like say, you know what my tip is is Actually, 905 00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:15,159 when I went to the twenty twenty one National, I didn't take any pictures, 906 00:56:15,159 --> 00:56:16,639 and I actually regretted not taking pictures with people because, like, I 907 00:56:16,679 --> 00:56:20,000 don't know, I just was I was like nervous or something. I don't 908 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,159 I don't know what it was, but I whenever I said hi to a 909 00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:23,199 bunch of people, but I just I didn't ask for a picture. I 910 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,800 don't know. But if you see people that you know, just get pictures 911 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,159 because in the grand scheme of things, I wish I had asked more people 912 00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:32,119 for to take pictures together. Um. So yeah, just you know, 913 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,920 if you are seeing people that you know that online, or you're seeing people 914 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,320 that you you know, you follow their content, just go up to them 915 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,960 say hi. I would say, for the most part, you're gonna have 916 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,960 a ton of great interactions with people. I mean, we got logan, 917 00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:46,519 see if you can come in, We're gonna add him back in here, 918 00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:52,679 Logan, welcome back. Wow, my internet connection just dropped, I don't 919 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:58,159 know whatever. Maybe not great timing, but good timing that now you're back 920 00:56:58,199 --> 00:57:00,079 because we're actually we're wrapping things up. We're kind giving our final thoughts here, 921 00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:04,719 so um yeah, just my basically final thought, it's just, you 922 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,519 know, go up to the people that you have seen online or that you 923 00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:08,639 you know you're friends with, and just make sure you say hello to as 924 00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:12,320 many people as you can, because that's kind of the great thing about this. 925 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,320 It's like everybody, everybody within the hobby most for the most part, 926 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,400 is going you know you're gonna have a chance to meet them, just go 927 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,639 say hi, you know, be friendly, all this type of stuff. 928 00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:23,079 So, you know, Logan, will I'll kick to you last year. 929 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:28,199 Do you have any final thoughts on today's episode going into the national Just final 930 00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:30,719 thoughts in general. All I can say is I'm very excited. This is 931 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:35,960 literally my favorite coming up. This is my favorite week of the year. 932 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,239 I look forward to this more than anything, more than Christmas, more than 933 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:44,639 anything because you know, I'm the lifelong hobbyist. I've been collecting since I 934 00:57:44,719 --> 00:57:47,559 was eleven years old, since nineteen seventy one. So you know, it's 935 00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:52,480 it's been a long time and I just thoroughly enjoy it. It's it's what 936 00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:54,440 I love, It's what I live for. So I can't wait to get 937 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,880 there, can't wait to see everybody. I will say one thing. I 938 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,000 remember the very first time that I met Jeremy Lee, Uh, I didn't 939 00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:06,480 know how to realize how tall he was. I don't know if y'all have 940 00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:09,880 ever met Jeremy and real life, yeah, but Jeremy also I'll look up 941 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:15,760 and go, that's Jeremy, and it was it was something. So seeing 942 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,880 everybody, there's gonna be a lot of people I've never ever seen in real 943 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:22,639 life, and that's that's gonna be fun. I can't wait. So definitely, 944 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,039 you gotta see me out there. Just stop me and this talk and 945 00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:29,360 just have fun. Absolutely, that's you know. I think that's a that's 946 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,280 a I have to share the same sentiment as you. So I think that's 947 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,480 a great way. We'll wrap up today's episode. I want to thank everybody. 948 00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:38,239 Like I said, make sure you check back. It'll be noon eastern 949 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:44,559 eleven am Central time at the National Next week we will be Hobby Hotline will 950 00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:45,760 be I guess here. I don't know. I don't know if we'll be 951 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,960 on the YouTube channel, but we'll see. But we'll be at the National 952 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,480 so make sure to check us out there. Thanks, thank you to everybody 953 00:58:51,480 --> 00:59:08,239 for watching. We will see you next week.