You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand. Hi Kerry, Welcome to the
Jesus Christ Show. Hello, Happy Easter, Jesus, and to you,
thank you. I was a raised Catholic, went to Catechism all that.
As an adult, I just I don't want to belong to a church.
But I'll I would just pick a church one day, let's see what their
message is this day. But Christians asked me three questions and they say,
oh, you're a Christian, so that is side on the third day,
according to you rose from the dead. According to the scriptures, right,
you rose from they're dead and we're waiting for you to come back. So
when did you die? In between those times, I haven't read the Bible.
Listen to you. You're my church, and I learned through other people.
Well, learning is only one part of church being fed. And I
encourage people one not to use this show as church, because there's something called
conan ea and it's when you commune with other people. And I hope that
you get that somewhere because it's a very powerful part of it. Now,
under your question, I don't die again. In the Book of Acts,
the Apostle, Luke writes in the first account, I composed about all things
Jesus started both to do and teach until the day that he was taken up
after he had given commandment through the Holy Spirit to the apostles. And really
this is talking in the Book of Acts. It talks about the ascension,
like being assumed. I basically rose into heaven. There wasn't a point of
death again. It was just going up and then leaving the Holy Spirit for
in my stead, so there is no point of dying again. It was
just ascending into heaven. Okay, thank you, Yeah, my pleasure.
That's I like it. It's a it's an easy one, clean cut and
dry. But people end up thinking, well, gosh, is there another
death or anything. There's something that there's no need for it. Keep in
mind it says that I walked around for those forty days afterwards in a glorified
body, so so different enough that many didn't recognize me at first, and
then once you know, had to take that on and to see me for
you know, who I was in there, and in that moment. There
are a lot of questions obviously on resurrection Sunday, where people wonder about,
you know, that what took place is really through three days? Is it?
You know? Where'd you go in those three days? All of those
And it does fall many times to the curiosity of the death and whether the
death was actually as we spoke about earlier, was that really a sacrifice?
If you knew we're going to be raised from the dead, why didn't you
stay longer? Obviously with Louis and these different parts that people get stuck on,
and it's a good time to kind of cover those and go over them
here on the show. I know, let's talk to Jijia. Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show. Thank you, thank you for the ultimate price you
paid for me. I lost my son, who was raised up in the
church and he knew you very well. He was only twenty one, and
I found his lifeless body underneath across that I placed in his bedroom. Someone
had given him something for anxiety and depression called seton, and he was unaware
of what he was taking. And it was my only child and just having
a hard time. And then I lost his father two weeks ago, and
I'm not sure you know what what's happened. The results aren't back in from
his death. I don't think it was suicide. Or anything on those lines
that I just want to know. I know my son had free will,
why was he taken from me? Gia. There's no words and certainly not
the time in a program like this to really really do much other than to
understand what needs to be done from here on out. I mean, you
have a legacy to curate both your son and your husband at this point,
to make sure that people know them not for their deaths, but for their
life. And that's going to be on your shoulders to share their humor,
their insights, and things that they did while they lived. But as far
as why, is there going to be anything I could tell you that would
make you go okay, that makes sense. No, no, no,
it's just pain and mourning at this point. It's going to be you feeling
this. And you're right, there is free will involved. You know,
I don't know why your son would have gone to someone other than a doctor
to get what he needed. That was a choice and it was yeah,
and it was a choice by the person who gave it to him to have
something that they didn't know about or didn't understand, or maybe they did,
who knows. And it's it's one of the things that everybody knows pretty close
in life. When you know about by ten, you have a good understanding
that people are going to come and go in life, and people are going
to pass, but no one ever knows when, and there's never an appropriate
time. There's never a time where you go, Okay, this is great,
even if somebody is in their high nineties. It's always sad to lose
someone. But this isn't happening to you. I assure you're not being punished
or anything like that. You're merely experiencing the pains of life, and it's
unfortunate that it's come in the pattern that it did and the way that it
did, and now's the time to take care of yourself to heal. But
I encourage you not to get lost in the pain, because that does them
no good. You are the one living. You need to have life.
You will get to a point where you are strong enough you might be helping
others, you know, look through. Another thing that I would wish on
you for a church is to have the support of people around you. Not
to mention the possibility of a group that deals with this, that you could
be someone who would speak to others that have lost God bless you, Ga,
and I pray that you take the proper amount of time to more and
the proper amount of time to come back into the world and shed light and
understanding when other people are in pain as well. Hi Harry, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show. Hi Jesus. So I've been reading the New Testament
and I have a read Letter edition which shows your words and read and there's
pages and pages and pages of your words. And I want to know how
that could even be possible, because I don't believe those are your words.
Those are words created by men to say what they thought you were saying.
And also, I thought human sacrifice was done away with Abraham and Isaac.
And if you are coming here to bring glory to your father, why are
you starting the whole new religion which gives you glory? And to me,
you've usurped the Jewish religion. You've made them the enemy of Christianity and Jesus,
the historical Jesus. You preached in the synagogues, you were a teacher,
you were a rabbi, and to start a whole new religion. Do
you really think that's what the Father wanted you to do? I think the
Father wanted people to worship him and not have anything take the place of the
Father, the Holy Father, whose name he instructed us not to say,
but just to know he is. I am, that I am. That
is is more like twenty questions, but let's break it down one by one.
First of all, the red letter or quotes are literary. They're used
to help you understand when somebody is speaking. The Scripture was not written like
a journal and not a day to day entry. One thing that you're missing
big time is that the Gospels are believed to be inspired by the Holy Spirit.
There is also times where these things could have been retold because there's just
it's impossible. There's times when I was alone in scripture, no one was
there to see it, so those things were either retold. The belief is
by me because even after the resurrection, and there was plenty of time,
there were multiple times where we sat and talked after events that had happened.
So it's written a little different. Any work of antiquity is witnessed by someone
at some point, and this is just how historical narratives go based on memory
research compilation. Interestingly enough, this is even mentioned in scripture Luke one three
says, it seems good to me, also, having followed all things closely
for some time past, to write an orderly account for you. And it's
mentioned that there is study that goes into these things, and that there were
the compilation of words that were written. It isn't, as I said,
some sort of diary or journal that is taking place. The other things that
you're talking about could be seen the way you said, but that's not It's
not a whole new religion. I said in scripture. I didn't come to
abolish the law. I came to fulfill it. That's different. If you
are a living judy in practicing today, you're still waiting for the Messiah.
The difference is that the Jews two thousand years ago, many of them believed
that I was the mashiakh Yeshuahamashiek that was promised and that was being fulfilled.
It doesn't glorify someone outside of the Father. I am one with the Father
that has stated multiple times there is no sep at all, even in the
flesh. It was specific to the goal at hand, because there was no
other way, not through the law, not through sacrifice, could it be
done. This last sacrifice was not about the flesh, which is what burnt
offerings were. This was about God, the one, true, clean and
perfect God, taking on sin, humiliation, and the feeling of death which
never had to be taken on by God for this payment. Jim, Welcome
to the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning. Hi Purgatory, my friend,
he was a Catholic. He quoted and told me the story of as Lewis
describing purgatory as you die and God has a mansion and binary is all laid
out. It's going to be a banquet, but that you're a little dirty
from the road and you're not quite ready. This is at the Great table
with him, so it's time to go get scrubbed up, cleaned up a
little bit before you can actually partake. And that seems like a pretty good
deal of somebody who's kind of wavering with faith. Being an agnostic sometimes I'd
like to think maybe I could do purgatory for one hundred years, three hundred,
five hundred in the scope of eternity. It doesn't seem like that bad
of a deal. Okay, I mean, what's the concept as far as
is there a set concept of purgatory as opposed to I mean you're in or
you're out with Christ in the afterlife, or does he scrub you up?
Well scripture, I mean it is a pretty illustration of course. But two
the not all Christians believe in purgatory for one, or the concept of purgatory,
And it can be a little loose in scripture as to where it stands
and what it means and what's apps actually taking place. There is some mystery
to it because there isn't great definition throughout scripture as well. But also there's
a couple of things that are problematic in scripture that are said that are clear,
and usually when interpreting scripture, you use scripture to interpret it, so
you use the clear parts for the unclear parts. So in scripture it says
to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. It
also says it is appointed for man to die once and then the judgment.
So what do those things mean, I mean to be present with the Lord
to be judged. It's not a direct contradiction, I suppose, because you
could say, well it is to be is appointing for men to be to
die once and then the judgment. Is that part of the judgment but you're
literally in the presence of God when you die, so there's if that's the
case, there is no cleaning up time, because scripture says it's immediate.
The second thing that would cause an issue is that in scripture it's made clear
that you're a new creation and that it uses the concept of being in the
pure white being cleansed to the point of, you know, being in pure
white. Lastly, it says that it implies that there's something else besides the
death on the cross that you need, and how would you plus that?
How would you say, Yes, it's the death and the cross that took
on the sins of the world cleansed everybody that receives. But you also have
to go here, so there's something else going on possibly that is in between
that that is not the preparation of a cleansing, but it's a preparation of
another kind. And on Easter Sunday, there's also interest in it because I
was in the tomb for three days, so what took place in that And
there's a lot of confusion as to what that is due to translation. Words
in scripture that have dual meanings and context is to define and one of those
words is Shiol, and the New Testament Greek equivalent of Shiol from what Christians
refer to as the Old Testament is the word hades, which is they both
mean the place of the dead, and people get confused because sometimes that is
referred to as hell, and sometimes it is not used it is just the
place of the dead. And in that way people get confused and they think
that I went to Hell, or I went somewhere during that time, or
there was a cleansing, but I wouldn't have needed a cleansing. So the
concept of purgatory is not defined in scripture as one particular thing. It is
something that is taught in certain denominations of the Body of Christ, and some
of it is through, you know, the belief system, rather than from
scripture. But something is taking place there. But the co cleansing thing adds
another step. It adds something that doesn't seem to be necessary to the story,
because throughout scripture, the blood on the cross is what cleanses you,
and to say something else needs to be added to that could be could be
blasphemous in certain contexts, because you're saying, well, yes, you got
you were cleansed with the blood of Christ. But now you've got to be
cleansed with time. And like you said, yeah, three four or five
hundred years is not a big deal when you're putting it up against eternity.
But the whole purpose of living for Christ on earth is so that you are
with God immediately in heaven. As a matter of fact, if you remember,
there was a thief beside me and I said today, you will be
with me in paradise. And I didn't say, hey, I'm going to
see in hell like like some sort of action movie, but the words there
could be translated that way as well. And it's really more understanding the context
of what's going on and why would I do it if it's unnecessary, and
why would people who were already cleansed in the blood do it. But having
said that, there is something going on in what is referred to as the
Place of the dead, and there's all kinds of weird theories because there's two
parts of it. There's the blessed side of all or paradise, and then
there is the other side, the unblessed, the bad part, and the
people go into both those areas, and the assumption would be there in lies
the judgment. John, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Thank you.
My question is after I die, when do I get to meet my family,
my loved mother and father and sister and all my family. When do
I get to meet up with him again? Well, scripture is clear that
it is appointed for a person to die and then go to heaven. Also
it says that to be absent from the body is to be present with the
Lord and second Corinthians five to eight. So that's the immediacy of it.
The part about family, I think people get confused as to so what's happening
in heaven. It's not that you won't meet your family or see your family,
of course you will, but you're not there for them. You're there
to meet your Maker. You're there to have a reunion with God. And
so people think that that's going to be their biggest focus, and it's not.
It's about the entirety of the body of Christ reuniting with the Creator.
So plus, once you're in heaven, there isn't really a win. You're
outside of time, so there's not those are those are very human on Earth
questions, so those aren't heaven questions. And I know that people that's one
of the things that they think primarily about is wow, well, I can't
wait to see my family again, and you will, but that's not the
focus. The focus really is about your relationship with God and reuniting with God.
And I think Christians miss that. I think they think about, you
know, the well, it's just going to be it's like another earth somewhere,
but there's with no yucky things and no sin. And it's more than
that. It is it's a coming home and it's about God. This whole
time on earth really is to find is to find yourself in the will of
God and prep you for heaven. And I think a lot of people just
think of it, tend to think of it as just this well, well,
okay, just a you know earth with better with cleaner streets. But
there's my you know, it's kind of well, what is this? And
the reality is it's about being in the presence of God. And as much
as you love your family and they love you, you're still in the presence
of the One and only, Holy and Righteous God. And trust me,
that's going to take some precedence in the situation. But you will definitely have
the homecoming with family as well, but they will be focused on God too,
which is why how you know a lot of people think, oh my
so and so is looking down on me from heaven, and those are all
nice thoughts, and there's nothing that really contradicts that per se in scripture.
But if you were in the presence of God, why would you concern yourself
with the earth anymore? Because there's family there? Yeah, but you're yeah,
of course, but that's not that's a very human human part of it.
Being in the presence of God surpasses all of those things. Yeah.
Ah, I've got a lot of family I miss, though I don't know
well that all plays a part in it. But you it's like it's like
children with toys at a very young age. They're obsessed with them. You
know, you can't even get their attention, and they're the most important thing
to them. And then family becomes more important and they understand how precious time
is. Well, there'll be another step for you and everyone else as well.
There's no tears in heaven, no sadness, none of that, So
you know that that won't be you know, it's weighing on John. It
will be being in the presence of God. Trust me. It's pretty spectacular
and pretty transcendent, but it doesn't mean those other things won't be a part
of it. I just see that humans kind of get twisted as to what's
going to take place and why and what this whole thing is about. It's
not about Christian barbecues on Christian cul de sacs. Up in heaven. There
is you know, there will be those things, there will be the connection,
there will be rejoicing. But I assure you, being in the presence
of God is going to it's going to have enough wow power that will take
your mind off of things or differently, and some people get let down,
and I can hear that in your voice too, John, but it's it's
because you don't know, because you don't see it or feel it or understand
it yet. And that's okay. You're going to go to the one thing
you do. But the love you have for your family, believe it or
not, is so overshadowed by the love that God has for you for one
And the love you feel is a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny tiny
bit of the love that God has. And the only reason why you can
feel it on earth and understand love at all is because of God. All
of those things. The best things you experience on Earth are tiny little pieces
of the relationship with God. Just understanding them, and it's a hard thing
to process. You're on Earth. K f I A M six forty on demand M