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You're listening to KFI AM sixty on
demand. Hi Kerry, Welcome to the

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Jesus Christ Show. Hello, Happy
Easter, Jesus, and to you,

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thank you. I was a raised
Catholic, went to Catechism all that.

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As an adult, I just I
don't want to belong to a church.

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But I'll I would just pick a
church one day, let's see what their

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message is this day. But Christians
asked me three questions and they say,

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oh, you're a Christian, so
that is side on the third day,

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according to you rose from the dead. According to the scriptures, right,

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you rose from they're dead and we're
waiting for you to come back. So

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when did you die? In between
those times, I haven't read the Bible.

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Listen to you. You're my church, and I learned through other people.

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Well, learning is only one part
of church being fed. And I

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encourage people one not to use this
show as church, because there's something called

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conan ea and it's when you commune
with other people. And I hope that

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you get that somewhere because it's a
very powerful part of it. Now,

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under your question, I don't die
again. In the Book of Acts,

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the Apostle, Luke writes in the
first account, I composed about all things

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Jesus started both to do and teach
until the day that he was taken up

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after he had given commandment through the
Holy Spirit to the apostles. And really

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this is talking in the Book of
Acts. It talks about the ascension,

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like being assumed. I basically rose
into heaven. There wasn't a point of

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death again. It was just going
up and then leaving the Holy Spirit for

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in my stead, so there is
no point of dying again. It was

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just ascending into heaven. Okay,
thank you, Yeah, my pleasure.

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That's I like it. It's a
it's an easy one, clean cut and

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dry. But people end up thinking, well, gosh, is there another

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death or anything. There's something that
there's no need for it. Keep in

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mind it says that I walked around
for those forty days afterwards in a glorified

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body, so so different enough that
many didn't recognize me at first, and

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then once you know, had to
take that on and to see me for

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you know, who I was in
there, and in that moment. There

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are a lot of questions obviously on
resurrection Sunday, where people wonder about,

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you know, that what took place
is really through three days? Is it?

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You know? Where'd you go in
those three days? All of those

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And it does fall many times to
the curiosity of the death and whether the

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death was actually as we spoke about
earlier, was that really a sacrifice?

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If you knew we're going to be
raised from the dead, why didn't you

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stay longer? Obviously with Louis and
these different parts that people get stuck on,

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and it's a good time to kind
of cover those and go over them

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here on the show. I know, let's talk to Jijia. Welcome to

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the Jesus Christ Show. Thank you, thank you for the ultimate price you

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paid for me. I lost my
son, who was raised up in the

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church and he knew you very well. He was only twenty one, and

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I found his lifeless body underneath across
that I placed in his bedroom. Someone

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had given him something for anxiety and
depression called seton, and he was unaware

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of what he was taking. And
it was my only child and just having

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a hard time. And then I
lost his father two weeks ago, and

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I'm not sure you know what what's
happened. The results aren't back in from

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his death. I don't think it
was suicide. Or anything on those lines

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that I just want to know.
I know my son had free will,

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why was he taken from me?
Gia. There's no words and certainly not

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the time in a program like this
to really really do much other than to

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understand what needs to be done from
here on out. I mean, you

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have a legacy to curate both your
son and your husband at this point,

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to make sure that people know them
not for their deaths, but for their

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life. And that's going to be
on your shoulders to share their humor,

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their insights, and things that they
did while they lived. But as far

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as why, is there going to
be anything I could tell you that would

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make you go okay, that makes
sense. No, no, no,

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it's just pain and mourning at this
point. It's going to be you feeling

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this. And you're right, there
is free will involved. You know,

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I don't know why your son would
have gone to someone other than a doctor

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to get what he needed. That
was a choice and it was yeah,

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and it was a choice by the
person who gave it to him to have

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something that they didn't know about or
didn't understand, or maybe they did,

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who knows. And it's it's one
of the things that everybody knows pretty close

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in life. When you know about
by ten, you have a good understanding

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that people are going to come and
go in life, and people are going

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to pass, but no one ever
knows when, and there's never an appropriate

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time. There's never a time where
you go, Okay, this is great,

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even if somebody is in their high
nineties. It's always sad to lose

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someone. But this isn't happening to
you. I assure you're not being punished

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or anything like that. You're merely
experiencing the pains of life, and it's

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unfortunate that it's come in the pattern
that it did and the way that it

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did, and now's the time to
take care of yourself to heal. But

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I encourage you not to get lost
in the pain, because that does them

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no good. You are the one
living. You need to have life.

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You will get to a point where
you are strong enough you might be helping

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others, you know, look through. Another thing that I would wish on

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you for a church is to have
the support of people around you. Not

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to mention the possibility of a group
that deals with this, that you could

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be someone who would speak to others
that have lost God bless you, Ga,

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and I pray that you take the
proper amount of time to more and

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the proper amount of time to come
back into the world and shed light and

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understanding when other people are in pain
as well. Hi Harry, Welcome to

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the Jesus Christ Show. Hi Jesus. So I've been reading the New Testament

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and I have a read Letter edition
which shows your words and read and there's

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pages and pages and pages of your
words. And I want to know how

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that could even be possible, because
I don't believe those are your words.

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Those are words created by men to
say what they thought you were saying.

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And also, I thought human sacrifice
was done away with Abraham and Isaac.

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And if you are coming here to
bring glory to your father, why are

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you starting the whole new religion which
gives you glory? And to me,

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you've usurped the Jewish religion. You've
made them the enemy of Christianity and Jesus,

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the historical Jesus. You preached in
the synagogues, you were a teacher,

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you were a rabbi, and to
start a whole new religion. Do

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you really think that's what the Father
wanted you to do? I think the

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Father wanted people to worship him and
not have anything take the place of the

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Father, the Holy Father, whose
name he instructed us not to say,

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but just to know he is.
I am, that I am. That

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is is more like twenty questions,
but let's break it down one by one.

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First of all, the red letter
or quotes are literary. They're used

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to help you understand when somebody is
speaking. The Scripture was not written like

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a journal and not a day to
day entry. One thing that you're missing

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big time is that the Gospels are
believed to be inspired by the Holy Spirit.

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There is also times where these things
could have been retold because there's just

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it's impossible. There's times when I
was alone in scripture, no one was

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there to see it, so those
things were either retold. The belief is

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by me because even after the resurrection, and there was plenty of time,

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there were multiple times where we sat
and talked after events that had happened.

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So it's written a little different.
Any work of antiquity is witnessed by someone

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at some point, and this is
just how historical narratives go based on memory

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research compilation. Interestingly enough, this
is even mentioned in scripture Luke one three

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says, it seems good to me, also, having followed all things closely

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for some time past, to write
an orderly account for you. And it's

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mentioned that there is study that goes
into these things, and that there were

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the compilation of words that were written. It isn't, as I said,

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some sort of diary or journal that
is taking place. The other things that

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you're talking about could be seen the
way you said, but that's not It's

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not a whole new religion. I
said in scripture. I didn't come to

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abolish the law. I came to
fulfill it. That's different. If you

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are a living judy in practicing today, you're still waiting for the Messiah.

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The difference is that the Jews two
thousand years ago, many of them believed

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that I was the mashiakh Yeshuahamashiek that
was promised and that was being fulfilled.

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It doesn't glorify someone outside of the
Father. I am one with the Father

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that has stated multiple times there is
no sep at all, even in the

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flesh. It was specific to the
goal at hand, because there was no

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other way, not through the law, not through sacrifice, could it be

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done. This last sacrifice was not
about the flesh, which is what burnt

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offerings were. This was about God, the one, true, clean and

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perfect God, taking on sin,
humiliation, and the feeling of death which

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never had to be taken on by
God for this payment. Jim, Welcome

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to the Jesus Christ Show. Good
morning. Hi Purgatory, my friend,

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he was a Catholic. He quoted
and told me the story of as Lewis

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describing purgatory as you die and God
has a mansion and binary is all laid

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out. It's going to be a
banquet, but that you're a little dirty

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from the road and you're not quite
ready. This is at the Great table

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with him, so it's time to
go get scrubbed up, cleaned up a

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little bit before you can actually partake. And that seems like a pretty good

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deal of somebody who's kind of wavering
with faith. Being an agnostic sometimes I'd

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like to think maybe I could do
purgatory for one hundred years, three hundred,

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five hundred in the scope of eternity. It doesn't seem like that bad

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of a deal. Okay, I
mean, what's the concept as far as

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is there a set concept of purgatory
as opposed to I mean you're in or

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you're out with Christ in the afterlife, or does he scrub you up?

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Well scripture, I mean it is
a pretty illustration of course. But two

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the not all Christians believe in purgatory
for one, or the concept of purgatory,

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And it can be a little loose
in scripture as to where it stands

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and what it means and what's apps
actually taking place. There is some mystery

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to it because there isn't great definition
throughout scripture as well. But also there's

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a couple of things that are problematic
in scripture that are said that are clear,

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and usually when interpreting scripture, you
use scripture to interpret it, so

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you use the clear parts for the
unclear parts. So in scripture it says

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to be absent from the body is
to be present with the Lord. It

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also says it is appointed for man
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So what do those things mean,
I mean to be present with the Lord

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to be judged. It's not a
direct contradiction, I suppose, because you

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could say, well it is to
be is appointing for men to be to

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die once and then the judgment.
Is that part of the judgment but you're

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literally in the presence of God when
you die, so there's if that's the

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case, there is no cleaning up
time, because scripture says it's immediate.

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The second thing that would cause an
issue is that in scripture it's made clear

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that you're a new creation and that
it uses the concept of being in the

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pure white being cleansed to the point
of, you know, being in pure

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white. Lastly, it says that
it implies that there's something else besides the

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death on the cross that you need, and how would you plus that?

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How would you say, Yes,
it's the death and the cross that took

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on the sins of the world cleansed
everybody that receives. But you also have

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to go here, so there's something
else going on possibly that is in between

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that that is not the preparation of
a cleansing, but it's a preparation of

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another kind. And on Easter Sunday, there's also interest in it because I

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was in the tomb for three days, so what took place in that And

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there's a lot of confusion as to
what that is due to translation. Words

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in scripture that have dual meanings and
context is to define and one of those

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words is Shiol, and the New
Testament Greek equivalent of Shiol from what Christians

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refer to as the Old Testament is
the word hades, which is they both

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mean the place of the dead,
and people get confused because sometimes that is

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referred to as hell, and sometimes
it is not used it is just the

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place of the dead. And in
that way people get confused and they think

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that I went to Hell, or
I went somewhere during that time, or

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there was a cleansing, but I
wouldn't have needed a cleansing. So the

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concept of purgatory is not defined in
scripture as one particular thing. It is

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something that is taught in certain denominations
of the Body of Christ, and some

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of it is through, you know, the belief system, rather than from

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scripture. But something is taking place
there. But the co cleansing thing adds

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another step. It adds something that
doesn't seem to be necessary to the story,

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because throughout scripture, the blood on
the cross is what cleanses you,

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and to say something else needs to
be added to that could be could be

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blasphemous in certain contexts, because you're
saying, well, yes, you got

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you were cleansed with the blood of
Christ. But now you've got to be

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cleansed with time. And like you
said, yeah, three four or five

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hundred years is not a big deal
when you're putting it up against eternity.

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But the whole purpose of living for
Christ on earth is so that you are

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with God immediately in heaven. As
a matter of fact, if you remember,

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there was a thief beside me and
I said today, you will be

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with me in paradise. And I
didn't say, hey, I'm going to

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see in hell like like some sort
of action movie, but the words there

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could be translated that way as well. And it's really more understanding the context

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of what's going on and why would
I do it if it's unnecessary, and

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why would people who were already cleansed
in the blood do it. But having

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said that, there is something going
on in what is referred to as the

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Place of the dead, and there's
all kinds of weird theories because there's two

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parts of it. There's the blessed
side of all or paradise, and then

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there is the other side, the
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people go into both those areas,
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the judgment. John, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show. Thank you.

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My question is after I die,
when do I get to meet my family,

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my loved mother and father and sister
and all my family. When do

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I get to meet up with him
again? Well, scripture is clear that

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it is appointed for a person to
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it says that to be absent from
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Lord and second Corinthians five to eight. So that's the immediacy of it.

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The part about family, I think
people get confused as to so what's happening

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in heaven. It's not that you
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of course you will, but you're
not there for them. You're there

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to meet your Maker. You're there
to have a reunion with God. And

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so people think that that's going to
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It's about the entirety of the body
of Christ reuniting with the Creator.

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So plus, once you're in heaven, there isn't really a win. You're

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outside of time, so there's not
those are those are very human on Earth

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questions, so those aren't heaven questions. And I know that people that's one

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of the things that they think primarily
about is wow, well, I can't

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wait to see my family again,
and you will, but that's not the

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focus. The focus really is about
your relationship with God and reuniting with God.

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And I think Christians miss that.
I think they think about, you

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know, the well, it's just
going to be it's like another earth somewhere,

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but there's with no yucky things and
no sin. And it's more than

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that. It is it's a coming
home and it's about God. This whole

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time on earth really is to find
is to find yourself in the will of

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God and prep you for heaven.
And I think a lot of people just

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think of it, tend to think
of it as just this well, well,

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okay, just a you know earth
with better with cleaner streets. But

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there's my you know, it's kind
of well, what is this? And

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the reality is it's about being in
the presence of God. And as much

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as you love your family and they
love you, you're still in the presence

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of the One and only, Holy
and Righteous God. And trust me,

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that's going to take some precedence in
the situation. But you will definitely have

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the homecoming with family as well,
but they will be focused on God too,

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which is why how you know a
lot of people think, oh my

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so and so is looking down on
me from heaven, and those are all

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nice thoughts, and there's nothing that
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But if you were in the presence
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with the earth anymore? Because there's
family there? Yeah, but you're yeah,

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of course, but that's not that's
a very human human part of it.

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Being in the presence of God surpasses
all of those things. Yeah.

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Ah, I've got a lot of
family I miss, though I don't know

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well that all plays a part in
it. But you it's like it's like

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children with toys at a very young
age. They're obsessed with them. You

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know, you can't even get their
attention, and they're the most important thing

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to them. And then family becomes
more important and they understand how precious time

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is. Well, there'll be another
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There's no tears in heaven, no
sadness, none of that, So

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you know that that won't be you
know, it's weighing on John. It

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will be being in the presence of
God. Trust me. It's pretty spectacular

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and pretty transcendent, but it doesn't
mean those other things won't be a part

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of it. I just see that
humans kind of get twisted as to what's

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going to take place and why and
what this whole thing is about. It's

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not about Christian barbecues on Christian cul
de sacs. Up in heaven. There

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is you know, there will be
those things, there will be the connection,

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there will be rejoicing. But I
assure you, being in the presence

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of God is going to it's going
to have enough wow power that will take

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your mind off of things or differently, and some people get let down,

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and I can hear that in your
voice too, John, but it's it's

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because you don't know, because you
don't see it or feel it or understand

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it yet. And that's okay.
You're going to go to the one thing

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you do. But the love you
have for your family, believe it or

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not, is so overshadowed by the
love that God has for you for one

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And the love you feel is a
tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny tiny

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bit of the love that God has. And the only reason why you can

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feel it on earth and understand love
at all is because of God. All

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of those things. The best things
you experience on Earth are tiny little pieces

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of the relationship with God. Just
understanding them, and it's a hard thing

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to process. You're on Earth.
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