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Well, happy Monday here, welcome
to the mark has got the banner going

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this week? When the entire episode
last week was so distraught with the Lions

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loss, I didn't get the banner
going. We have it here. Had

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the Mariners not gone fifteen and two
against the Kansas City Royals on Saturday,

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I might have thrown my phone through
something and injured myself someone else. This

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is a rough weekend, guys.
How are we doing? I'm doing good,

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raid really fighting week week of games
and we're excited to get into it

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this week. Yeah, I know
this year at your Big BOWLD Tiger Cats

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in the forum. Appreciate that.
Appreciate it. I don't have my BC

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Lions talent right now. Mariners deserve
my headspace and not be sides. Evan,

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how are you doing? Yeah?
Doing well? I mean, what

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a week, What a time to
be a fan of this league and to

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be involved. I mean, you
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mean the slat in general was you
know it was. It was mixed.

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But I think I think there's one
reason that stands out we're about to get

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into I don't even have to say
I don't want to be the one to

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say it, but that makes this
week stand out above all the others that

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we've seen so far. Yeah,
Tim's talking here. Tim mcgot Outwat's flight

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tech. Yeah, we'll talk to
Alex. We're gonna talk lines first off,

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just off the top here before we
get and everything. Teased it last

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week on the show. Recorded an
exciting interview this Friday. Proud to announce

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that our commissioner, Randy Ambrosie coming
back on the podcast. Had a great

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conversation with Randy late last week.
I think this was good. This is

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the third time he's been on.
I think Randy's got some familiarity and Okay,

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what is the mark cass? What
is going on? I asked him

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if I could call him a friend
of the show. We talked about Victor

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Quee's departure. We talked about what
does Randy want his legacy to be as

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CFL commissioner. So this is good. This is good. About seventeen minutes

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with the commissioner. So I hope
you are subscribed. Are we excited,

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gentlemen? Is that going to be
good? No, that'll be that'll be

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good. That'll be a highlight of
the season for sure. Yeah. Randy

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looked nice. He had a nice
jacket on. He complimented my shirt.

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He said, oh, you look
really good too. So we I think

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Randy and I are like, we're
basically like best friends now, So maybe

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Randy could join us on one of
these episodes. All right, so guys,

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do we want to talk? Do
we want to talk? Else?

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Here, I'll get the game up. Oh, we finally did it.

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We finally did it, bandaid off
everything else. I watched this game started

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to finish. Dorothy was coming home
from a girls weekend. I guess we'll

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go first. Evan, what did
you make of this? Yeah, well,

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it finally happened. You know,
for so many weeks it was I'll

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see it when I believe it,
and now I can finally believe it.

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Just so strange to me. I
mean, before we really get into the

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game, you know, first home
game, after Victor Quee is gone,

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and they do this, I can't
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I really can't believe. Like the
Elks, the past couple of weeks have

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been trending in this direction. I
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progress. We'll get into you know, Trey FOURD and everyone that we've talked

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about it nauseam this season, but
they've been making progress. This was in

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the works. Now, we didn't
know. I mean, the Victor quee

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stuff was extremely sudden. We didn't
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and it kind of happened right in
the middle of this sort of like they

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were starting to get where they needed
to go, and now they finally got

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over the biggest hurdle. Of course, still a lot of work to do

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this season, still a lot of
you know, games to win, if

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if you want to call this somewhat
of its success, but it's something,

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you know, it's it's something,
and it must feel so good, you

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know, if you're an ELX fan, you're from Edmonton, you live in

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Edmonton, you went to the game, whatever, it must have been a

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great feeling just being there and experiencing
that for the first time in yeah,

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I mean just about four years,
you know, it'll be It was October

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twenty nineteen and we're coming up on
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know. It was so nice to
see and I mean I think we all

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figured it was a possibility, but
just to actually see the final score,

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you know, with the Elex on
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any other way. It was.
It was great. Yeah, I mean

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I see this is you know,
the Elex Elusian Street Kids existed before the

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Mark has was the creation. I
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Welfare Jecker, what did you make
of this as a longtime fan of the

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league? Yeah, I was gonna
say the same thing that it is predated

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the existence of my channel as well. So I mean, just so happy

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for all the fans out there that
they no longer have to carry around this

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burden of you know, this giant, enormous losing streak. And I think

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that just to talk about my experience
watching this game, I didn't get to

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catch it live. Of course,
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I actually stayed up to watch the
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am Eastern. So that's commitment for
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demand yet, so that's why I
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to go witness history and that was
my experience watching the game. And I'm

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just so happy that they were finally
able to do it. Yeah, guy,

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here we'll get the box screw and
all that. Yeah, Evan was

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talking. I thought this was not
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But Victor tweeting out last night you
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coaches, and staff who've been working
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mean I have to imagine, I
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you know, man still incredibly excited
for all this. I mean, he's

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still a part of the community and
everything. I mean we make jokes about,

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you know, him and kind of
the departure and everything else from that,

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but he has to be excited about
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we saw it trending in this direction. They you know, they got

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the win last week, all the
pieces together at Trey Forward. Here pretty

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remarkable stat line fifteen of eighteen,
many many scramblings and then you know one

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TD zero interceptions, clean game.
Evan, what did you make of mister

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Ford's performance? I mean, this
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don't know who he had on your
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have been Naylor who was talking about, well, you know Ford. Yeah,

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it looks like the guy, you
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got to win, you know,
and he's got to stay consistent. Now

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you're finally starting to see a bit
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they can win games and he can
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this was above average. I mean, you know, three hundred and seventeen

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yards on fifteen completions. You don't
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around. I think you know this
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much. I don't want to make
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while we're on it, you know, Trey Forward. I think I think

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we've all kind of you know,
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him, and you know that there
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remember, you know, when Taylor
Cornelius was starting, we would always talk

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about, well, we'd like to
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you know that that's still not a
solidified option or anything. There's still a

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lot to work around. There are
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that they have to uh develop.
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doing these performances so quickly, I
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he really was, And you know, I don't think I mean, I

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think we can still all agree that
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season. I really don't think that's
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mean, he's been like at this
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they keep this up, I mean, they could really finish the season looking

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respectable. I'm not going to say
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way too much bad, but they
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time to save this thing with Trey
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doesn't mean, you know, we're
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know, looking at possible coaching changes
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be saved, but putting together a
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or whatever, that is still possibility. And I think for the Elks that's

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a huge win right now. Yeah, that was Naylor talked about it.

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I think it was in the I
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the halftime, and he was saying, you know, he kind of used

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the CFL season is you know,
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front nine and the back nine,
and he said, hey, Chris Jones

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is one for one right now on
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a season to get this together.
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the Lions kind of poopling right now, everything else has either like they're really

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not that far out if all things
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exactly, And I think, like
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to, you know, the state
of the playoff race and all these other

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struggling teams right now, specifically the
Calgrey Stampeders, who the Elks could even

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leap frog in the standings with a
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So really excited for that. That's
another point I wanted to bring up,

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is that the Labor Day games now
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to them that they didn't look like
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really excited for that weekend. And
I think that the thing, just to

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piggyback off of Evan here, I
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with the quarterback play in Edmonton is
that, you know, not that it

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was just you know, slight improvement
from tray board, it's really a night

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and day difference. And I think
that it's really opened up that entire offense.

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Maybe some of it is the offensive
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couple of weeks ago as well.
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just night and day, and I
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bootlegs off play action. It's putting
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You know CFL defenses are just not
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fast as tray forward. And he's
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plays out there. And you saw
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with giving up big plays over the
past month or so. We've talked about

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it many weeks now on the show, and you know Edmonton was able to

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take advantage of that and get that
first win. Yeah, this Monday,

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September four, they got the schedule
pulled up here tremendously exciting for that,

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you know, VC here at Montreal, Tim Tim Scott, Tim Kapper in

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the chat talking about how the Lions
having you throwback cap available, Tim,

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I saved my money for winners.
I save my money for winners. Maybe

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when we come in again like we
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the Montreal Alouettes at home. I
remember we had that beat where you had

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to change your logo off the podcast
to VC Lions logos, So maybe we

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could go get one of those again. But I have no faith at all

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right now. And that yeah,
I had the tweet up, you know,

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just whatever highlights doing this show and
Trey forward and everything else, like

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Gina looks great, he was back
worth every penny. It really felt like

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there was still some Elk stuff in
there. We saw some penalties and the

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too many men and we still we're
still working through kind of discipline issues like

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that, but it feels like they're
getting here. Evan, how are you

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feeling here? Steamrolling? Here are
we building? You know, two games

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in a row now building momentum?
Yeah, it looks good, you know,

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every everything looks good right now?
Is the bottom line I think we

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can all. I mean, there's
there's no denying this is the best part

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of the Elk season. This is
the best that the Elks. I think

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it felt in a long time,
because even in seasons prior or maybe they

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won a couple of games and did
some cool things, nothing feels as emotional

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as this does. And again I'm
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no connection to the Elks organization,
but I can only imagine again, for

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the guys like you know, Dave
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up, guys like put so much
time and effort in that league. I

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can't imagine what it feels like right
now to just feel like you've done something,

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You've at least, you know,
made a dent in the season and

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made an impact, and you know
there's at least some positivity because for too

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many weeks, for way too many
weeks and honestly even years, because I

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mean it's been a couple of seasons
of you know, lackluster performances for the

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Elks. It's just been way too
much negativity, and I always tried to

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look at the positives, you know, I think when we've talked about the

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Elks and weeks past, I've I've
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point out things, Well, they
have you know, this X player who

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can do X thing, and that's
that's good for the future, right for

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when you're trying to you know,
build something next season with whoever's there,

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and you know it's obviously going to
look a lot different still, but Yeah.

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I mean I'm just again really really
happy and like, how can you

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not. I mean, I think
the only people who were frustrated about this

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were Ottawa fans, but I think
the rest of the everyone else involved in

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the CFL was just kind of cheering
Edmonton on because again it needed to happen.

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It just it needed to happen.
It was dragging on for so long,

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and it was again becoming a point
We've talked about this before too,

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where it's not just hurting the city
of Edmonton and their football team, but

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it hurts the entire CFLs ale.
Yeah, I got the highlight of that

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peer out. You know, it
looks like Tree Forwards doing his best Native

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market pressure. We matter guys the
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NFL now, and then we can
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previously, I didn't have the clip
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does his play Twitter breaks, this
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padro Brickholmes, you know, if
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with the whole em Ottawa thing of
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have to. You probably know more
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Ottawa fan base, Like, what
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I know we have jam a longtime
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a Red Black fan, but I
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an Ottawa Redblacks fan. Can you
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does it feel like to be if
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three. Yeah, Well, it's
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in twenty fourteen, they had some
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poor first season and I think it
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that is, and then they wanted
in twenty sixteen. But the last four

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years have really just been dreadful.
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has been the last three years.
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it's sad because earlier this season they
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Calgary. Looks like they're turning the
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be something, but he's clearly regressed
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away that running element, or at
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lost season here. Now that they're
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two games behind in the lost column. They played another game that then one

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more game than Hamilton, and they
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their bye week next week, so
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and I think that. As for
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that they have a pretty loyal fan
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couple of weeks ago, you know, really good turnout for that one.

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it's an East market, and it's
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three years. Like I said,
but yeah, it's it's hard to you

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know, there's there's not that much
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because they've only been around for basically
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I hopefully hopefully they get it turned
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at seven it's like a Seattle see
Dragon stand with all of you know,

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with all five home games under our
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of you deston crime Hussy's saying your
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We kind of had the initial stort, what are you making the bottle

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way? Yeah, they're in They're
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mean, you could honestly argue,
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long way to go, but like
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like Jason said, we talked so
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much worse for them, and the
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home losing streak too, and their past

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couple of seasons have netted next to
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it's almost I mean, we I'm
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more. I don't think we should
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have the right to do that,
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you know that those guys have their
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continuing now. This has been an
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it was for Edmonton, but perhaps
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much different direction in mind, whereas
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rebuilding, they just thought they'd have
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now, I think. But I
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lost a lot early on, and
the season outlook is already I think,

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so different than from what anybody they're
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you know, personnel side or whatever, and the fans side. Again,

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talking about the fan base that you
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it's a bit of a different projection. And yeah, this point, I

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mean, you know, they had
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Edmonton's doing here, you know,
like they've had that overtime thriller against Winnipeg

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that was probably, you know,
maybe my favorite game of the season,

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just going back on things, and
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show. They've had games like that. They've kind of reached their PIP as

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well, but that's dropped off again
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I mean, it looks like it's
almost over, especially with what Hamilton

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did against BC, which I know
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we'll get into that eventually, you
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mind, I think, uh,
yeah, that the outlook doesn't really look

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good here and as sad as it
is, and there was hope. There

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was a lot of hope I think
for Ottawa, even when you know things

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were at their worst, you know, when Jeremiah A. Souli was injured

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and everything, there was hope.
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you know, turn the page and
looking at next year, which is a

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hard pill to swallow. And I
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there's still a lot of season left. You never know, I mean,

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you just never know what could happen. I can't rule anything out, but

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I'm I think we can all say
right now, things don't look great for

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that team in terms of their success
this season. It's it's almost like you

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have to You're starting to get to
that point where you're like, Okay,

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what's what's twenty twenty four going to
look like? Who are keeping around?

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You know, who might not be
here anymore? Things all look up?

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Yeah, I mean that win the
Pig Game feels like a lifetime ago.

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At this point. I mean,
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just I remember we had on whoever
it was that week I can't even remember,

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you know, talking and it was, oh when I had Steve Simmonson

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and he's like, this weekend was
arguably the most entertaining of the CFL season

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thus far. But he's like,
I don't know if this is a good

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thing or a bad thing because we
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getting hurt and kind of all that
other stuff. Andy Murray has a comment

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under Cornelius, who was fifteen points
per game under FOURD twenty seven point six

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points per game. Lewis has said, you know, and Professor Andy Murray

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and hit the nail on the head, Jason, any other football the stuff.

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I have some plenty comments to bring
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up, but you have more football
stuff. Yeah. At one point I

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want to bring up about tray Board
that I don't think gets talked about enough

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is that tray Board has been playing
Canadian football his entire life, and you

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know, compared to these other American
quarterbacks that come up here that are learning

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a brand new game, I think
that it's really helped tray Forward's transition into

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the CFL, and obviously that athleticism
as well has helped him have success early

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on here. So I just wanted
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something that's not brought up enough about
him well. And Dunnigan had a really

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good quote from him on the Color
Commentary where he said his mind is going

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faster than his legs, where it
really does feel like he's able to process

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a little bit more. I guess
with probably brings up your point where he's

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been kind of in this system and
you know, he's not coming in fresh

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like a dustin crumb here and Okay, what's going on? And I have

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to learn this game. I've talked
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it really takes a couple of years
to get people figured out. I

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had showed this tweet earlier Stephen Friend
of the Show, met him back and

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Regina last year Tray Forward showing the
league had done emondant coaching. SAFF has

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been keeping him on the bench as
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that this was a funny thing too, So Morley Scott, Friend of the

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Show, tweeting now the Edmonton Concession
and stands I'm very impressed with the bacon

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cheeseburger we had and Dave Campbell,
Dan, this is a winner. I

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privately messaged David. I said,
I think we know why why Victor Queen

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was dismissed from the Edmonton Ogs,
that this was your big, big contenion.

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I go, I just got home
from t Mobile Park. We have

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like twenty dollars slices of pizza and
like sushi, hot dogs and everything else.

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We have the we have the Morleys
Scott bacon cheeseburger. And then from

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my poll, this one didn't circulate
very well, but they really didn't see

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my people were all in on free
trade Forward here over crumb Sandity. Evan

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anything else on this one? Oh, I had the Jalen Hurts too or

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he was wearing. They were showing
that during the game, and we mather

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as well because Jalen Hurts was wearing
the CFL expansion team. I guess his

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dad played for them back in the
day. Evan anything else on this,

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Yeah, just touching on Trey Forward
again really quickly, Jason, you know

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you said, I mean he's a
Canadian quarterback, so he comes in the

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league with an advantage. I think
that's true, but it's been tough for

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him because I feel like with that
advantage, you have to capitalize it,

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you have to capitalize on it quickly
to kind of set yourself apart from the

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American quarterbacks. But tray Ford just
hasn't gotten the playing time, so we

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haven't seen a lot of him until
now. I mean, again, I'm

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sure like things again are trending in
the right direction. It certainly looks like,

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you know, he could have a
very good season from this point onward,

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assuming you know, he starts in
every game, doesn't get hurt,

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whatever. But yeah, I mean
it's an interesting discussion to be had about

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you know, Trey fod like maybe
if we don't look at it from this

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season, but we look at it
from you know, twenty twenty four and

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beyond. What his outlook really likes
is really looks like, excuse me,

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as a quarterback and how he could
set himself apart by being a Canadian.

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I think he already set himself apart
when he was drafted that high as a

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Canadian quarterback, a first round pick. I think he was eighth overall in

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the CFL draft Edmonton, So you
know, he's already set himself apart in

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that sense, but it will be. You know, tray Forward is one

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of those guys that could have one
of the more interesting and perhaps again outstanding

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careers in the CFL as time goes
on. I would certainly hope. So

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anything else on this when Jason,
you want to move on, Yeah,

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let's move on to your favorite game
to talk about this week? Well,

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and so I had We're I've had
the Winnipeg Blue Bomber. They are doing

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tremendously well with the social media right
now. Live look at the standings after

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week twelve. Here I was working, I had a wedding, one of

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our last of the season here,
you know, watching the score come down

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and I'm like, what the hell
is going on in this game? This

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should be such a cake walk.
I don't understand that. I was messaging

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with one of my CFL people Saturday
night. I don't know if it's like

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if it's like the culture it's the
right word, or a locker room issue,

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like there is something wrong with the
BC Lions right now. And it

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was kind of like, Okay,
we can't get up for the away games

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and we play worse on the road. Now, I mean, this is

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a cake walk victory. This is
okay, thrilled the hometown fans come in

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like a Rick had his uh,
you know, his postgame like I think

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they're a very good football team.
That we are not a good football team

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today, Like I don't, I
don't know at what point, like does

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Rick started taking accountability here, like
we can't just whitewash these games every week,

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like okay, we gotta move on, we gotta move on to me,

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we had our d others last week
with how bad this was. I

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mean, I guess we'll go first
to Evan, like this just feels like

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the Lions are falling apart. We're
seven and four now, and then these

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are very very winnable games. Well, I don't know if falling apart is

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the right term. It certainly looks
like that right now, because the Saskatchewan

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game was a surprise, and then
you know, this was I mean,

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I mean, I would even say
this was more unpredictable than Edmonton winning at

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home, which is saying a lot, because that was the sort of you

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know, I'll see it when I
believe it's scenario. I mean, this

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was a this was a shocker,
you know, and BC like the whole

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thing was they don't lose at home, you know that. Yeah, they

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struggle on the road a bit here
and there, but they don't lose at

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home. Now they've lost at home. So that red flag that we talked

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about last week, like, Okay, maybe you've got a couple of tweaks

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to make, is now elevated because
you've lost back to back games, both

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home and on the road, and
both of those games were extremely winnable.

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We all know that anyone who watched
is the CFL on a regular basis is

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going to know that. Me personally, I don't think they're falling apart.

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I still think they have the right
personnel. I still believe in Rick Campbell

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as a coach, We love Ryan
Phillips a defensive coordinator. All the pieces

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are there. I think they're just
getting too comfortable. That's the best way

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I can put it. I think
they've been so accustomed to success. And

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I'm not saying, you know,
they're accustomed to success. But at the

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same time, but seven games,
this isn't like a dynasty here, No,

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I know, but that's what I'm
getting at because while they are a

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good team, you know, not
just in the West, but across the

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CFL, they still don't have the
championship pedigree that teams like Toronto and Winnipeg

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do, and that's the difference here. That is sort of the one.

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I don't know if you've ever seen
that meme where there's like those it's like

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the three dragon heads and there's the
one dragon that looks like really like goofy,

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you know what I mean with the
face. I could try and pull

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it up later, you could try
and pull it up. But that's what

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I think about of the lines right
now. I'm not saying, yeah,

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that's the one. I'm not saying
I'm not saying that's what I necessarily think

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00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:03.759
of them, like the team as
a whole, because I love that team.

409
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.079
Again, we just praised the personnel, we praised all the things that

410
00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:11.359
they have, but the reality is
like they haven't gotten to the point that

411
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:15.799
these other teams, you know,
in the Sea. Winnipeg I think has

412
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.599
a different sort of discipline, and
I think Toronto's getting to that point too,

413
00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:22.640
but specifically Winnipeg and we'll get into
their game against Montreal, but I

414
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.000
think that was a great example where
every time you think Winnipeg is gonna lose

415
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:30.400
or do something stupid. They don't. They change your mind, They'll change

416
00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:33.119
on you and they win the game, and usually they win it in dominant

417
00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:36.039
fashion, as they did this weekend. I'm not gonna get into a big

418
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:37.720
tangent about Winnipeg here because it has
nothing to do with the team that we're

419
00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.640
talking about. But again my point
being, you know, BC, while

420
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.279
they are a good team, they
are still in some uncharted waters and I

421
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:49.279
think maybe that sometimes I'm not going
to say that they get carried away.

422
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:52.359
I think it's just these quick little
mental errors that add up. Again,

423
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.519
you're getting too comfortable. You think
that because you haven't lost at home until

424
00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.960
now, and you know everyone's been
saying good thing about you. Everyone I

425
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.720
think really likes the culture. You
know, there's been a lot of praise.

426
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.720
I think some of those guys might
have just settled down a bit and

427
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.240
they weren't on their toes and then
a team like Hamilton comes in and takes

428
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:12.960
advantage of that, because we all
know how hungry Hamilton is. I went

429
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:17.680
on the show last week saying Hamilton
could go to the playoffs, and everyone

430
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:19.839
was like, I think, you
know, that was like the least popular

431
00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:23.200
option against Ottawa. And Calgary.
But I mean, look at Ottawa,

432
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:27.519
like they you know, they just
lost to Edmonton. Things really are looking

433
00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:33.759
good there. I figured Hamilton could
do something like this because while their team

434
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:37.279
has changed a lot and their aggression
has changed a lot, like I think,

435
00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.480
the overall mentality there is different compared
to when they were competing for Gray

436
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.920
Cups. The reality is they still
have a lot of those guys like Orlando

437
00:26:44.960 --> 00:26:48.200
Steinauer was the coach that was there
for the two Gray Cups. He's still

438
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.920
there, Like, they still know
how to be in certain positions and take

439
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:55.400
advantage of certain things. That's not
even something that Rick Campbell has, you

440
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.920
know what I mean, so at
least a BC. So you know,

441
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.720
it's a complex thing, I think, and I you know, again,

442
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:07.440
I'm still again it's it's a real
shame that BC came out there and performed

443
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.359
like that. I think that was
again, I mean, unacceptable, sure

444
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:15.000
for and I know everyone there knows
that. But yeah, it's uh,

445
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.359
it's tough, you know, it's
tough. And I think again, now

446
00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:23.160
we have to start asking these harder
questions that maybe we tried to avoid before.

447
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:26.319
Yeah, I got your meme up
here, I've made that tweeted that

448
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.559
out here. If you see Lennepeg
Toronto, there you go, There you

449
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:33.720
go. James. James has a
good comment. The Lions have been listening

450
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.279
to the media too much. The
bomberage arrangement syndrome caused the media to crown

451
00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:40.799
BC way too early. I would
co sign Matt Jason thoughts on this.

452
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:45.920
Yeah, I mean, like,
I still think BC's gonna be a pretty

453
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:49.160
good team going forward. I think
they'll shake this off, but these last

454
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:52.519
two games are really going to cost
them first place in the West Division.

455
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.119
And I think that's that's the reality
of the situation. And I think they

456
00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:02.079
needed to host the West Final more
than Winnipeg did, and that just looks

457
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:03.920
like it's, you know, not
going to be a possibility anymore. And

458
00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:08.359
I think that, you know,
it's weird because they didn't really have too

459
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:12.000
much pushback in this game, whereas
in that game against the Scats one,

460
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.920
they came roaring back and almost wanted
at the end. Against Hamilton, they

461
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.480
couldn't get anything going offensively. And
I think that, you know, I

462
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.000
think some of that has to do
with the Tiger Cats coaching staff and their

463
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.799
familiarity with Vernon Adams. From his
time with Montreal, and I think they

464
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.119
put together a really good game plan
for him, but some of it was

465
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:34.000
just mistakes that BC was making.
In this one. Javanka Toy had a

466
00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:37.759
big fumble, They had a couple
of big drop passes. They just kind

467
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.680
of looked out of sync the entire
game on offense. And this defense doesn't

468
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.400
look scary to play against anymore like
it did about a month ago. So,

469
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.640
I mean, just disappointing last couple
of weeks for the Lions. I

470
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:52.880
still think they're gonna be a good
team going forward, but like I said,

471
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.599
first place just seems like a long
shot at this point, I thought,

472
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:57.960
I tweeted Lower, It's like I
remember when they had you. They

473
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:03.519
basically James Butler had him in the
leading rusher, and they traded them away

474
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.359
and really did nothing at all to
kind of shore that up. Like you

475
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.400
know, you got my Zell here
in nine carries. I mean Vernon throwing

476
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.240
forty attempts here at three hundred and
twenty six yards, he had like four

477
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.039
hundreds righting that with the loss against
the Scatch one, I just remarkable.

478
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:19.279
I had a couple of tweets from
Dave I showed before a stunning result tonight.

479
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.400
During my pregame prep, I concluded
this was one of the single biggest

480
00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:26.240
and physical mismatches of the season,
really puts a jolt in the dynamics of

481
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:30.519
both divisions. And then he had
this one. There are just two kinds

482
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.680
of upsets in football. One where
a bunch of full moon plays happened from

483
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.880
the underdog and the favorite team just
can't ever come them, and then there's

484
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:38.920
the other where their favorite team just
gets flat out beaten. Tonight of Vancouver

485
00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:44.119
it was the latter. I had
them the quote from Vernon, I hate

486
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:45.480
Lucy Man. I hit it.
I hit it more than I like winning,

487
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:48.559
which I do, Like, I
mean, I love Vernon. I

488
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.359
just I don't know. I'm really
kind of flabbergasted by this one. And

489
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.079
like we said that VC needed to
host that West Division final, and I

490
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.519
just don't see that happening. Evan
thoughts on this the tie cats, you

491
00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:03.079
know, with would pale everything else. Yeah, So before I get into

492
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:07.200
some of the matchup stuff, which
I also do find really interesting about this

493
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:12.119
game, Yeah, the point that
Jason brought up and what you touched on

494
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.960
about, you know, BC not
hosting the West Final most likely. Now

495
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:21.720
that really sucks, and that I
think is gonna be you know, we

496
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:26.279
will look back on these two games
if BC loses the West Final in Winnipeg,

497
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:29.720
and it's gonna be the biggest you
know, face palm that you could

498
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:33.559
imagine, like it really because that's
what they needed. That has always been

499
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.119
the struggle. And again we've already
talked about, you know, they their

500
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.799
games on the road this year feels
so much different compared to their games at

501
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.200
home. And that's like, you
know, BC is a good team,

502
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.880
right, we all know that.
Again, great overall roster, great coaching,

503
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.559
everything looks great there. But I
think there's teams, you know,

504
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:57.519
with significantly worse records than BC that
you know, probably play better on the

505
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.920
road. And that's that's a big
red flag. And I mean, again,

506
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.000
maybe I'm being more critical now,
maybe we're talking about more of the

507
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.000
red flags because they've lost at home, like things are. You know,

508
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.119
BC's hitting a rough patch here there. They're sort of low patch of the

509
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:14.400
season, just like we talked about
Edmonton reaching their high and Ottawa kind of

510
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.400
hitting another low. Like it sort
of goes. The CFL season is so

511
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.319
long. I'm starting to notice these
sort of these waves, you know,

512
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.599
kind of trends things like that.
But yeah, I just wanted to point

513
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.240
that out. I think that whole
you know, home and away thing for

514
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:30.480
the playoffs is really that matters here, I think more than anything else when

515
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:34.440
you look at you know, like
division wise standings, all that good stuff.

516
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:38.000
But I'll get into the game here
and things that I thought were interesting

517
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:42.759
from the stat sheet. We'll start
with Hamilton Taylor Powell. I think this

518
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:48.200
was his most complete game. He's
had a couple games where it was some

519
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.559
good and some bad, and then
there was a couple other games where it

520
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:55.079
was just a lot more of you
know, you're telling yourself, Okay,

521
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:57.599
he needs to develop more. You
can tell he's been quickly thrusted into this

522
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.400
role. You know. Again,
I'm not gonna stay's bad, right,

523
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:06.000
It's I don't think any I'm never
gonna call player bad. That's just not

524
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.200
right. I can't. I can't
do that, you know. But Taylor

525
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:14.880
Powell, you know, this game
really showed I think his progression. Now

526
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.640
keep in mind, he didn't have
to do a ton because James Butler in

527
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:22.279
his you know, BC Revenge game. This was one of his more complete

528
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.400
games of the season. And I
think we've talked a lot about James Butler

529
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:29.079
sort of. I don't want to
say he looks out of place in Hamilton,

530
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:30.519
but he you know, he's been
way slower this year than he was

531
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:35.000
last year, and it's just been
so I don't know, it feels like

532
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.079
it's been really up and down with
him too over the course of the season.

533
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.079
So really good to see him get
involved. You know, it's a

534
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:45.319
shame that he decided to turn things
up against Well, it's a shame for

535
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.759
BC fans like you read. I
think the rest I enjoyed watching him,

536
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.200
you know, go out and go
out and do that. But yeah,

537
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:57.599
no, I mean it was interesting. And the one thing that really I'll

538
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.799
switch over to BC here, the
one thing that I find just fascinating about

539
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:05.799
this team the lines. You know, win or lose, Vernon Adams still

540
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:09.160
has these incredible passing games. Like
their offense, even on a losing day,

541
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.000
still feels like they can churn out
a ton of yardage, especially through

542
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.359
the air. On the ground has
been yeah, mixed bag, you know,

543
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:20.319
Mizelle has been again. They've got
some work to do there. I

544
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:24.279
think losing Butler has really hurt them. And ironically again Butler tore him up

545
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.039
this game, or at least the
defense. But yeah, you look at

546
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.839
you look at Vernon Adams, I
mean, three hundred and twenty six yards

547
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:32.559
in a loss. So they only
put up thirteen points and he's still had

548
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:36.920
three hundred plus yards. And once
again, look at that. You go

549
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.559
down to the receiving column, You've
got one hundred yard receiver and Keyan Hatchers

550
00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:44.559
seven catches, hundred seven yards,
one touchdown. Like it is amazing to

551
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.279
me. How like I feel like
every time this team loses, which they've

552
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:52.400
got four losses now, so it's
it's starting to become you know, I

553
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:58.279
mean it was they were what seven
in two, seven and yeah last yeah,

554
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:00.200
so now it's seven and four because
they've lost the two. Now it's

555
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:05.640
starting to become a more common theme. Yet they still have such a potent

556
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.840
passing attack. I I mean,
I see things like that in college football,

557
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:12.639
where you know teams will lose and
put up a ton of yards,

558
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.760
but I don't know, seeing it
like at this level is extremely interesting.

559
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.000
And I think that again it speaks
to just how well rounded this team is.

560
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.960
Like I'm Gonna. I will still
give the Lions praise even though they're

561
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:28.559
going through a tough time here,
because even when they lose, I still

562
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:30.719
feel like they have a somewhat entertaining
product. A lot of it just comes

563
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.960
from mistakes, and to be entirely
honest, I think a lot of the

564
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.480
blame can be put on the defense
in the past a couple of weeks really

565
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:42.800
for most of their losses. I
just don't feel like the offense you know,

566
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:45.599
has been you know, as much
of it. I don't want to

567
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.239
say problem because I still feel like
DC's defense is a complete unit as well.

568
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:52.639
But like there's no denying I mean, the Winnipeg game, you know,

569
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.199
Saskatchewan was just a close one.
I don't know if that was really

570
00:34:55.239 --> 00:34:59.639
on either side, but this one
definitely felt like a bit of a weird

571
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.079
miss match for BC's defense. And
again, it's just it's out of character.

572
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:06.440
It's it definitely makes you question things. I still think BC will be

573
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:09.239
good, but like, let's let's
put it this way. This is the

574
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.840
last thing I'll say before I give
it back to somebody because I've been talking

575
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:19.480
for too long. But but you
know, if BC goes to Winnipeg again

576
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.960
and loses in the West Final again. Is that really a successful season?

577
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.599
Like? Is that really what you
went out and wanted to do? No?

578
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.800
Like, this team, we know
this team can go out and win

579
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.800
a great cup under the right circumstances. I believe that. Okay, I'm

580
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:35.639
a firm believer that they can go
out and win a championship. I look

581
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.519
at the roster again, coaching,
everything that we've already talked about. I

582
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:40.480
combine all that, and I'm like, this is a championship caliberner team.

583
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.880
But you know, you have to
you have to get over the hump.

584
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.960
You know, you don't want to
be called you don't want to be one

585
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:51.519
of those teams I think of.
I mean, I don't know. There's

586
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:53.280
a couple examples in the NFL in
recent years, like maybe the Saints,

587
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:58.679
where it's the classic regular season team. You know you can win, win,

588
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:00.559
win, and then it comes time
for the playoffs where it's instant elimination

589
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:06.920
and you don't know what to do
and it sucks. That's what you That's

590
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.400
I think almost worse Like Vernon had
his quote he said, I hate losing

591
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:15.320
more than I like winning. That's
almost in my opinion worse, Like,

592
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:19.119
if you're a good team in the
regular season it constantly loses in the playoffs,

593
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.039
then just being one of those teams
as a losing record and doesn't go

594
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:24.360
at all because you feel like all
of your accomplishments have gone out the door.

595
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:28.519
And again that's that's a conversation and
stuff for debate how you feel about

596
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.519
that and how you feel about teams
records. But I just can't imagine how

597
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:37.719
crushing it would be for this BC
team to go to Winnipeg again and lose.

598
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:39.320
I'm not saying it's gonna happen.
They could, you know, surely

599
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:44.119
pull it out and you know,
surprise everybody, but it just doesn't look

600
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.519
that way right now. And I
just feel like if they lose that game,

601
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:49.639
you know, because I think they
can get through the rest of the

602
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:53.559
regular season, fine, But if
they lose that game against Winnipeg that we've

603
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:57.280
talked about so much that we think
is gonna happen, We're like ninety nine

604
00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.239
percent sure is gonna happen. If
they lose that, you know, first

605
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.920
of all, to disappointment, but
then you start thinking about next year,

606
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.519
like will they have the same personnel, you know, to get to be

607
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.039
in that same position, or our
guys gonna leave explore new opportunities. You

608
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:13.440
know, do they like where is
the confidence level? That's that's my big

609
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:16.280
question there in the locker room.
No, That's where I'm at, and

610
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:20.480
I wanted to get Jason thoughts on
on the Tie cast as well. I

611
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.639
have a tweet. You know,
last year when we were getting ready for

612
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.880
the Gray Cup show, I remember
talking with a lot of the BC people

613
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:30.719
and this was kind of like post
Nathan and Verndon was there and they're like,

614
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:32.159
well, no, like we really
like we're hoping to be there,

615
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.320
like we're hoping to be in the
Gray Cup, we're in the conference.

616
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:37.559
I'm like, okay, I mean
there was a little bit of delusion last

617
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.280
year, right. I think I
think Vernon kind of kind of held that

618
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:44.000
ship as long as he did.
We're basically like, we didn't just throw

619
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:45.920
away the season, but it really
never felt like they were competitive at all.

620
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:50.559
After work went down, it felt
like, I mean, I in

621
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:52.559
my mind, I'm like, this
could happen this year. They're that dominant

622
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:57.000
they made and like that's just all
totally gone out the window. Jason,

623
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.480
I had a tweet here in the
Black and Gold. Let this be a

624
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.519
training point for the tie Cat season, talking about hell BC at home and

625
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:06.960
kind of all this stuff. Do
you view that as that or do you

626
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:10.039
view it as BC given it the
way, I think it was the most

627
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:15.119
complete effort the tie Cats have shown
this season by far, and I think

628
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.760
that even in the games that they
had won previously, their three other wins,

629
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:22.199
I don't think they looked very convincing, and I think in this game

630
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:24.800
they just came out with a complete
game plan. Probably the most shocking team

631
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.280
to me was just the fact that
Hamilton was just gashing BC's defense with the

632
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:35.119
run every single play. Like it
seemed like BAC never really had the ball

633
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.719
in this one, even though burning
through the ball forty times. It felt

634
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:43.079
like Hamilton had the ball for the
vast majority of this game. And James

635
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.079
Butler just simply was the man in
this one. The offensive line, you

636
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:50.679
know, making holes for him upfront. But I think Butler against his former

637
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:53.320
team was just a different kind of
motivation for him, and I think for

638
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:58.599
the defense, I think that it
was easily their best game of the season.

639
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:00.760
And I think that, like I
mentioned before, I think the Tyecats

640
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:07.159
coaching staff. It's very familiar with
Vernon Adams from his time with Montreal,

641
00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.079
so I think they were able to
game plan and you know, know his

642
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:14.480
tendencies a little bit, so I
think that played into it. And I

643
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.280
think that you know, they tackled
very well, they generated a few takeaways,

644
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.800
and they also had a huge third
down stop on the first possession for

645
00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:24.559
BC that really set the tone for
the game. So I thought I was

646
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:29.599
very impressed, and it was totally
unexpected from me as a Tycats fan.

647
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.599
I mean, almost all Tycats fans
were expecting a loss in this one.

648
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:37.639
But the CFL is a weird league
sometimes and you can't really explain it.

649
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.000
Yeah, that's what I learned.
And I remember a couple of years ago

650
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:44.360
and I did Fantasy. We all
did it with the Hub people kind of

651
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:45.840
the first the first season of that, and I just don't have time,

652
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.800
but yeah, you set up this
and okay, I got whoever you know,

653
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.079
and it would never. It was
so unpredictable. And that's why I've

654
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.800
always said, like, I'll never
I'll never bet on sports because like,

655
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.599
god forbid, I'm I'm said enough
about this stuff. Can't imagine that.

656
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.599
The other question I have for Jason
was, you know the the OC.

657
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:07.920
You know, we're switching the coach. Do you attribute a lot to that

658
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.719
as well? Here where it's been
a couple of weeks with the new offensive

659
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:15.199
coordinator. Well, I think it
certainly hasn't hurt. I think that,

660
00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:17.079
you know, just having a fresh
face in there. I think, you

661
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:21.920
know, Tommy Condell, he had
some great years with Hamilton, but I

662
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.840
think, you know, switching it
up and you know, I think they're

663
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:28.559
probably still running a lot of his
Schames, but sprinkling in a little bit

664
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:31.000
of what Scott Milanovitch is bringing to
the table a week by week here.

665
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:35.360
And I think that the commitment to
the running game, like I was saying

666
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.880
before, is a big difference.
I think from where they were under Tommy

667
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:44.360
Condell tach. That's just known notoriously
as a past heavy team, but that's

668
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:47.119
changed this year and the last few
weeks, specifically with James Butler and the

669
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:52.280
fold. So I think, yeah, the offensive coordinator change probably is factored

670
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:54.159
in a little bit, but I
wouldn't attribute it all to that. I

671
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:59.599
think it was just just a really
good game plan in this one. We'll

672
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:01.119
move on here, what'll kind of
double time the other two games, I

673
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:04.719
had this off the top. I
forgot to pull it up. We had

674
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.960
the Rich Stebler passing away at seventy
four, I believe yesterday or at least

675
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:13.000
over the weekend. I wanted to
make sure we commented on that. I

676
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.760
probably have the least amount of notes
for the the Stan Peters Argos game.

677
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:22.840
We were at the Mariners Kansas City
game on Friday. I guess we'll go

678
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.119
first, Evan on this. You
know, Calgary made an effort here four

679
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:28.760
time, you know, Mayor kind
of waking up a little bit. I

680
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:30.880
had some I saw some memes earlier
in the week Ryan, one of the

681
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.800
friends of the show, like Mayor
Mayor on the wall, we'll I throw

682
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.079
a touchdown in ball or whatever.
But what did we make of this?

683
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:44.480
At Toronto? Still taking care of
business like championship caliber teams do? Yeah?

684
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:50.679
I mean you know, oh no, I'm glad. I'm that was

685
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.679
that was good? That was good. No, But uh, you know,

686
00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:59.159
I think Toronto, you know every
Well, we'll start with Calgary.

687
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:04.039
I think we're regardless of how you
know, maybe disappointing Calgary has been this

688
00:42:04.119 --> 00:42:06.559
season. They'll always give Toronto a
run for their money. I don't know

689
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.119
what it is, but like those
guys just know how to play against Toronto,

690
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.840
like figuring things out. Unfortunately,
I still couldn't get the job done.

691
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:15.840
But this game was way more entertaining
than I thought it was gonna be.

692
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.800
I thought Toronto was gonna beat the
brakes off them. I know,

693
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.599
Calgary one last time. But again, you know, a bit of different

694
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:27.400
circumstances there. I expected this to
be sort of more like the Winnipeg Montreal

695
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.719
game was, but it wasn't.
I mean, Jake Mayor, you know,

696
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.360
we had said last week we really
kind of did a deep dive on

697
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.119
Jake Mayor and just you know how
bad his struggles have really been, you

698
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:40.639
know, pointing out some of the
stats that have really again you know,

699
00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:45.880
all looked like in the wrong direction
this season. Every everything has not looked

700
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:49.760
great on his end. But every
time you say that, like he has

701
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.800
these games like it just he kind
of comes out of nowhere and decides to

702
00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:58.039
decides to dominate again. And I
can't really I can't really put my finger

703
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.760
on why that is. Maybe it
just has to do with opponent. And

704
00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.039
you know, when the game is
or whatever. I don't know. Sometimes

705
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.800
there's weird criteria like that, but
regardless, Jake Mayer, again, this

706
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:13.360
is the Jake Mayor I thought we
were going to get really this entire season.

707
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.760
Now, I don't know. This
was still pretty exceptional performance by that

708
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:20.320
standard. But you know, like
this, like you know, you're talking

709
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.679
about Jake Mayor, like it was
so difficult for him to get to two

710
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:27.880
hundred yards per game and here he
is getting close to four hundred, you

711
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.079
know, no interceptions. I mean
it was He's had a couple of games

712
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:34.480
this year, you know, where
he really did ball out, but this

713
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.159
one I think felt the most complete, you know. I mean, yeah,

714
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.360
there was high yardage, high touchdowns, but it still felt the most

715
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.920
complete. And yes, Calgary loss, so maybe it takes some points off

716
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:45.920
for that, but I don't know, I still enjoyed it. I think

717
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.480
that was It was a relief on
my end because I just I don't know,

718
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.679
like if Jake Mayer, I feel
like, I mean, we were

719
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.679
at a point last week where it
was like if Jake Mayor even has a

720
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:59.079
couple more of these, you know, sub two hundred yard games where they

721
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:00.880
can't score in the red zone,
they might just you know, once,

722
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:05.599
once you realize your seasons, you
know over you might just be putting somebody

723
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.679
else in and seeing how that works
out. Did I think that was gonna

724
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:12.960
actually happen. I don't know,
but it certainly seemed like a possibility in

725
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.079
my head. Now, obviously,
Jake Meyertt looks like he's proved himself again.

726
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:22.159
But but the guy really here that
I want to talk about for Calgary

727
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:27.480
before we get into Toronto side of
the ball is a Reggie Bagelton. So

728
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:32.079
I've mentioned Reggie Bagelson a couple times
on the show this season, but you

729
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:35.559
know, he missed a couple of
games due to injury, and again,

730
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.079
the passing offense just hasn't really been
anything to write home about, so he

731
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:43.239
hasn't done a lot. But you
know, Reggie Bagelton for a while has

732
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.960
been one of the more I think
intriguing CFL receiver prospects. And boy did

733
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:49.920
he show it in this game.
I mean this, this was one of

734
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.480
the best, you know, receiving
performances you could ask from any receiver.

735
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.960
You know, he looked like one
of the best receivers in the league in

736
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.880
this game. And you know,
yeah, I mean I don't know the

737
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:01.400
stat line, like he was targeted
a bunch, you know, I mean

738
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:05.480
he was getting fed. But like
you know, even Mark and Michelle you

739
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:07.599
know, had four for eighty two
and a touchdown like even that. Like

740
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:12.719
you know, like once the passing
offense opens up, I know that these

741
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.519
receivers can do great things, like
I do think Reggie Bagelton is one of

742
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:19.320
the better receivers in the CFL,
which is the point I'm getting at.

743
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.719
But no one would really know that
this season because Calgary hasn't done much throwing

744
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:25.719
the ball. You know. Now
we finally had an opportunity, you know,

745
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:30.079
where he could get worked into the
offense and it's been shown definitely.

746
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:34.440
I mean, going over two hundred
yards in a game at receiver and scoring

747
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:37.159
twice is ridiculous. I mean that's
you know, think about how many fantasy

748
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:39.760
points that is if you want to
get back on that fantasy discussion. But

749
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:44.320
no, I mean it was good
to see at least a bit of a

750
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.559
spark from Calgary. You know,
they still didn't win, so it doesn't

751
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:54.119
feel as exciting. It definitely doesn't
doesn't help things out. That's uh,

752
00:45:54.280 --> 00:46:00.480
yeah, I put that in the
chat then time to find here. Yeah.

753
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:04.519
No, but you know, Calgary
didn't win, so I don't know.

754
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.400
It definitely makes things feel less exciting, and to be honest, that

755
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:10.840
it almost feels like a nail in
the coffin of their season. I'm not

756
00:46:10.880 --> 00:46:14.760
gonna say that now, because they
played really well in this game, but

757
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:16.400
just looking at the record and everything, I mean, hell, they're getting

758
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:21.280
like Edmonton's getting close to them now, which is which is staggering. I

759
00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:25.440
mean that's you know, if if
for somehow, I mean I'm not saying

760
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:31.199
it's gonna happen, but if Edmonton
finishes over Calgary in the standings, you

761
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:37.840
know, they swap spots there for
fourth and fifth. That's I don't know,

762
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.119
if you're Stampeders fan, I don't
know. I just I'm kind of

763
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:44.519
at a loss at that point.
But I won't get into that. I

764
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.320
mean, now we're just kind of
cracking meaningless jokes, so I'll get into

765
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:52.000
Toronto here briefly. You know,
do I really need to say anything about

766
00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.119
them? No, because they do
the same thing every week. Now that

767
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:59.320
they're starting to get like I mean, we've talked about how they kind of

768
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.519
resemble winning Peg in the sense that
they're extremely consistent and even when they make

769
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:06.199
mistakes, they can come back from
them again. That's what made like,

770
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.559
That's why you know, they won
the Great Cup last year and probably have

771
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:13.400
a good chance of doing it again
this year. But I look at you

772
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.039
know, chat Kelly that this wasn't
a flawless game by him by any means.

773
00:47:16.119 --> 00:47:20.639
It was definitely a bit slower by
his standards, you know, throwing

774
00:47:20.679 --> 00:47:22.679
two picks and yeah, he had
a ton of yards, but it could

775
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.159
have completed a couple more two.
You know, it wasn't flawless, but

776
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.280
four total touchdowns, so that helps. I don't think anyone's gonna argue against

777
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.719
him all around. Yeah, I
mean a j Olett. I feel like

778
00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.880
he has the same stat line every
week, just extremely efficient, close to

779
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.639
one hundred yards, you know,
seventy eighty range, demonte COAXI we've seen,

780
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:45.599
you know, he I feel like, I don't know, I don't

781
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.039
I don't want to say he's one
of the top receivers in the CFL yet,

782
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:53.239
but he's had so many good plays
this season where I think the potential

783
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:58.639
is I mean, he could be, you know, maybe top five at

784
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.280
some point. I don't know.
I really liked watching his game over the

785
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:06.440
course of the season. Devars Daniels, you know, someone I'm extremely familiar

786
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.320
with. Again, another good game. Andrew Harris had a touchdown this game,

787
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.920
which I thought was really cool.
You know, we don't talk about

788
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:16.280
Andrew Harris a lot anymore because he's
in an extremely reserved role in Toronto behind

789
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:19.519
a j O Lett like he you
know, and he's really old. You

790
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:22.719
know, he doesn't he doesn't need
to get that much work in because he's

791
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.800
I don't I don't even know how
old he is. What thirty thirty something,

792
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:31.360
mid thirties really old? Like,
I don't know. To me,

793
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:36.800
I always call him the Frank Gore
the CFL I I whenever I'm talking to

794
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.000
my friends about, you know,
Canadian football, I'm like, well,

795
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:43.760
you know, there's a guy playing
up there right now who's essentially the equivalent

796
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:46.000
of Frank or he just won't stop. You know, he's still playing.

797
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:52.599
Yeah, thirty six, that's that's
ridiculous. But yeah, overall, you

798
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.719
know, this game I expected Toronto
win. They did flow on a bit

799
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.199
differently than I expect, but ultimately, you know, it is what it

800
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:02.519
is. You know now, now
it's time to move on. I don't

801
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.480
know it was. I didn't watch
much of this game either, so I

802
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:07.480
don't know. I'm not going to
ramble about it for too long. I

803
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:13.239
think there's more to talk about there
with Calgary though, ultimately than the Argonauts

804
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.159
because we just know what to expect
from them at this point. Yeah,

805
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:21.039
Jason is here enough spark of life
here with Calgary. Yeah, I think

806
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.719
that, you know, if that
games with Edmonton and Calgary, if either

807
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:29.760
of those teams sweep that those back
to back games, I think it could

808
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.440
change the season for either of those
teams. Definitely think there's good things to

809
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:37.880
take away from this game if your
Calgary offensively, But I mean, at

810
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.039
the end of the day, they
just didn't make the plays necessary at the

811
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:44.000
end of the game to win,
you know, and that's just been the

812
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.519
case far too often this season with
them. I think that, you know,

813
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:51.159
just to touch on Reggie Bagleton again, I had a video that I

814
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.719
did before the twenty twenty two season
where I ranked my top fifteen CFL wide

815
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:59.599
receivers and I actually had Reggie Bagleton
ranked at number one in the CFL,

816
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:01.760
and I thought, you know,
when I saw him in this game.

817
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:07.599
I said, there's that guy,
there's that guy that can be an elite

818
00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.280
receiver in this league, and he
absolutely was in this one. Fortunate that

819
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.920
he wasn't able to come away with
the victory, but at the end of

820
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.239
the day, again, I think
there's still some positivity to take away from

821
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:21.280
this game if you're Calgary for Toronto, I think that Kelly faced him adversity

822
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.880
through the two picks, like Evan
said, but he also made several big

823
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:28.880
time throws down the field. He
has great chemistry with Devors Daniels. Davars

824
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.920
Daniels really making good on his potential
that he's shown his entire CFL career.

825
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:36.320
This is a guy that doesn't have
on a thousand yard receiving season. I

826
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:38.559
do believe in his career, but
I think that he's definitely going to reach

827
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:42.639
that this year. He's always had
the potential in my mind to be one

828
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.400
of those top ten receivers in the
league, and he's shown that this season.

829
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:50.079
Another guy in Toronto I want to
give a shout out to his Dwayne

830
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:53.559
Hendrix defensive tackle had a couple of
massive run stops in this one. That's

831
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:57.920
another thing Calgary really couldn't get the
running game going in this one, so

832
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.239
that was a good thing from Mayer's
perspective that he was able to move the

833
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:06.400
ball efficiently even without the running game. So I think that, you know,

834
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:08.159
Toronto, same old, same old. Like Evan said, I think

835
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:13.559
they're arguably the best team in the
CFL stale. And for Calgary, I

836
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.320
think their season is not completely lost
yet, but the losses are piling up.

837
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:20.920
Yeah, I'm book in here.
As you were talking, looking forward,

838
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:23.599
you know, we have the Edmonton
at Calgary and then the Calgary Edmonton.

839
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:27.480
You know, sometimes people pooh pooh
these home at home, like or

840
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:29.880
oh, we're playing whatever. I
mean, this is kind of you know,

841
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.039
division kind of solidifying stuff here.
You know, if like Edmonton could

842
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:37.920
sweep like you said that series on, that could be interesting. Let's get

843
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.599
to the last game here. I
did watch a lot of this one.

844
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:47.360
Felt like Klaros was a little rusty
coming back doing his best Tailor Cornelius impression

845
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:53.039
and then obviously holding the Alouettes to
no points in the way right in the

846
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:59.679
second half at all interesting here.
I wanted to see kind of Cody Cody

847
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:01.159
kind of wake back up again as
well. After we kind of had the

848
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:06.360
Caleb Evans experience. Let's go to
Jason first on this one, like this

849
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:09.480
is what championship teams do, Like, okay, we face adversity our quarterback

850
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:14.039
through two pick sixes. I think
Zach made the joke like, oh,

851
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:17.039
I actually threw six six touchdowns in
this game. Whatever they come back,

852
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:20.400
they shut it down, like if
this was BC, I would have no

853
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:22.840
faith, Like they would be flustered
and then oh my god, we gotta

854
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:24.400
go. You know, they they
didn't worry about it. They had it

855
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:27.920
it was tied or they were whatever. At half. What do you make

856
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.199
of this? Yeah, this is
a fun first half in this one,

857
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:36.280
But ultimately Winnipeg just showed that they
are the far superior team and Montreal is

858
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:38.320
really just showing this season that they
can't hang with the big dogs. I

859
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:42.800
mean all of their losses, all
their four losses that came against the big

860
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.880
three teams if you will, in
the CFL. So that trend is continuing.

861
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:50.159
But like you said, Colaris,
he really, you know, looked

862
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:53.440
rusty in the first half. I
think he also threw another interception in addition

863
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:58.159
to those two picks sexes. But
ultimately, I think he shook it off

864
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:02.159
and you saw those playmakers really shine
for Winnipeg. You just see how much

865
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:07.079
of a complete offense they really are
where they have all those playmakers on the

866
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:10.159
field. Brady Aliba is having one
of the best seasons by Canadian running back

867
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:15.000
in a long time. I think
that Andrew Harris hasn't ever even led the

868
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:20.480
league in rushing before, but I
think that olivera is by far the leading

869
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:22.719
rusher so far in the CFL this
season, So I think he'd be the

870
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:27.400
first Canadian running back to do that
in quite some time. And I think

871
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.599
that you know, like you said, it's what championship teams do. They

872
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:34.559
bounce back and they were able to
really put the clamps down in the second

873
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:37.559
half. Montreal really didn't get anything
going on offense in this entire game.

874
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.599
I mean, you take away those
two picks six as they scored three points

875
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:45.960
in this entire game. And Winnipeg's
defense is really just returned to their elite

876
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:50.119
form after having a shaky start to
the season that I was pretty critical of.

877
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:55.679
Yeah, this reminded me of it
was the was it the West Semis

878
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.880
two years ago? It was Winnipeg
versus Saskatchewan and like they Winnipeg, I

879
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:06.320
think, like turned the ball over
six times and like Saskatchewan still lost the

880
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:07.800
game. And you're like that,
you know, you have you have to

881
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:10.960
have a day here when when you're
a quarterback, like he said, can

882
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.559
throw three interceptions and he still put
up almost a fifty burger here on the

883
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:20.280
Montreal Uh. Different stat line Evan
than like we've seen for Zach here,

884
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:22.840
but but obviously still coming out with
the win. What did you make of

885
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.519
this? Still throwing four touchdowns?
Incredible? Yeah, you know, it

886
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:29.800
was an interesting game. First half. I watched this game and its entirety

887
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:32.519
by the way first half, Yeah, it felt very competitive in the first

888
00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:36.679
half. Really felt like Montreal had
a shot. They were playing extremely well.

889
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.159
I'll give a shout out to you
know, I'll talk about Winnipeg first,

890
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:43.920
but I can't, you know,
talk about this game without mentioning Mark

891
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:49.079
Antoine de Quas first from Montreal.
Love that guy. I love the way

892
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.239
that guy plays. And that was
I think I you know, I maybe

893
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:58.920
mentioned him when Montreal had that game
against Toronto back last month in July of

894
00:54:59.079 --> 00:55:00.039
you know, the back and forth
game, the one that we all really

895
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:05.559
liked to during that crazy week.
I really like Mark Antoine quass safety,

896
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:08.239
you know, Ally Watts, I
don't know, just just really really he

897
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:13.320
had a really good performance in this
one. Obviously it wasn't enough, like

898
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:17.199
Winnipeg pulled away, but that guy
has some serious potential and you know,

899
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:21.920
I'm glad to see that. You
know, Montriol is finding Montreal has found

900
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:23.760
I mean, shout out to their
personnel department. They have found a lot

901
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:29.000
of guys like Austin mac has been
an immediate impact player in this first year

902
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.840
in the league. And you know, just just guys like that really really

903
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:35.920
stand out. And and it takes, you know, from someone who now

904
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:39.079
does personnel work like it, it
takes you know, it's a long process

905
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:44.800
to find, you know, guys
that can that can do stuff like that,

906
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.039
and it can really get involved in
anyway, I won't get too sidetracked.

907
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:51.840
For Winnipeg. Yeah, it was
really I don't know, it was

908
00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:55.280
a very strange day for Zach Colaros. Now obviously you know they pulled away.

909
00:55:57.079 --> 00:56:00.159
Zach didn't even have to play the
whole game, but like you know,

910
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:02.519
he has some just misques, you
know, and I think that's part

911
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:05.880
of you know, get you're coming
off a game, you know, you've

912
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:07.599
been injured, you're you're warming up
again, it happens. You know,

913
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:12.239
Montreal's defense has some good pieces too, Like I think two of those picks

914
00:56:12.280 --> 00:56:15.679
went to the qua, so you
know that there's that so if you take

915
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:20.199
away those that there's only one interception. But you know, yeah, I

916
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.440
mean again, like I said before
about Winnipeg, that the same thing applies

917
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:25.039
here. It's, uh, you
know, every time you think this team

918
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:29.599
is gonna lose or do something stupid
or act up, they pull their things

919
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:31.079
together and they just go get the
job done. And you would have never

920
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:35.519
even thought about it twice. I
mean, it's honestly incredible. Like you

921
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:37.519
know, during the second quarter of
that game, it didn't look like it

922
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:42.360
was even possible for Winnipeg to maybe
get to thirty points that night, and

923
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:45.599
they got damn near fifty. So
I think that really speaks again to that

924
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:47.519
It's just a mentality. You know, it's like, you know, we

925
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:52.000
can only do you know, whatever
whatever happened in the past, like we

926
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:53.480
can't change that. You know.
Now we have to you know, go

927
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:57.199
out there and just get the job
done. And you know, just take

928
00:56:57.239 --> 00:56:59.880
it play by play, you know, don't focus on what happened before,

929
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:01.719
only focus on what you can do
in the future. I'm started sounding a

930
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:04.960
coach now, but you get the
point, Like, I really think that's

931
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.840
what the mentality is there, and
that's why they can just keep doing this,

932
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:10.719
you know, week after week,
month after month, year after year.

933
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:15.199
Now it's honestly just it's one of
the greatest you know, no one,

934
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:20.039
I mean people people really cared.
I mean, well, let me

935
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:22.840
put it this way. This is
a bit off topic, but I want

936
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:24.159
to bring it up anyway, while
we're talking about sort of Winnipeg in the

937
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:28.599
whole dynasty, a lot of people
look at Edmonton and they're you know,

938
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:32.199
twenty two game home losing streak or
whatever, and people who weren't fans of

939
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:37.480
the CFL knew about that. But
there's not enough people who you know,

940
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:42.000
don't fall CFL who are aware of
how good the Blue Bombers are as a

941
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:45.920
football team, because I don't think
people understand, like, it's very rare

942
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:49.920
to see this kind of success,
you know, at any pro football level.

943
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.559
I mean, the Blue Bombers are
almost I mean, they're getting to

944
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.760
a point where I mean, if
they go out and win the Gray Cup

945
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:59.079
this year, you're looking at like, you know, Patriots kind of thing,

946
00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:02.360
dynasty level. You could honestly argue
that they're again different leagues. I

947
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:06.599
get it. I'm not trying to
draw any direct comparisons, but like you

948
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:09.039
know, in terms of just winning
cultures and things like that, that they're

949
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:13.000
so consistent. You know, it's
hard to find that. You think about,

950
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:15.840
you know, college football, what
would the equivalent be for Winnipeg.

951
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.480
Probably Alabama pains me to admit that, but it probably is. They set

952
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:22.679
a standard, you know, and
things just like they just win like it's

953
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:25.639
nothing, you know, It's just
it comes naturally to them. They still

954
00:58:25.679 --> 00:58:29.840
have their mishaps here and there.
Okay, even even the greatest winners in

955
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:32.679
the world don't win all the time, you know, greatest teams, greatest

956
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:37.199
people, whatever, everyone has their
moments. But like Winnipeg, it's just

957
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.920
so I wish more people in sports
media. Like I'm not saying like these

958
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:45.480
people have to you know, become
like CFL homers or whatever we call them,

959
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.079
right, but I think it would
be nice if like a team like

960
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:52.320
Winnipeg could get some more coverage for
what they've been doing because the reality is,

961
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:54.000
like you know, I mean,
yeah, there was the COVID season,

962
00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:57.400
and yeah they lost a Great Cup
last year, but they've been in

963
00:58:57.559 --> 00:59:00.639
three straight championship games and they win
the Great Cup this year. I absolutely

964
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:05.480
think there needs to be more coverage
here in the US about that team,

965
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:08.639
specifically, if there's one CFL team
that I nominate to be sort of,

966
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:12.039
you know, the team that people
know here. I mean, now,

967
00:59:12.159 --> 00:59:15.840
now we're getting into like America's CFL
team territory, which Reid has already claimed

968
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:19.239
out the lines, but maybe maybe
I take the Bombers just because, like,

969
00:59:19.280 --> 00:59:21.800
again, you know, they're so
successful, and I feel like,

970
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:24.159
you know, people would I don't
know if they gravitate towards that. I'm

971
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:28.400
not necessarily saying, you know,
this is a poll for more American fans,

972
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:30.800
but like, you know, I
just feel like this team is so

973
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:34.559
damn good in all of sports in
general, but no one really, no

974
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:37.280
one talks about it. So I
don't know a couple of things here I

975
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:43.239
want to get Jason. I had
this where, you know, the Montreal

976
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:45.679
the famous airhorn guy, and I
thought this is funny pumping out the els.

977
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:51.559
I did comment in this it's seriously
if this guy, like I that

978
00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:52.719
is my one problem with the CFL, is like, oh, like,

979
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:58.599
let's let this one guy who's having
fun take over this entire experience. I

980
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:02.159
had a tweet here friend of me
of the show Ballsy talking like Caleb Evans

981
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:06.239
should be the starting quarterback? Jason, what did you make of this moncheral

982
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:08.119
Cody looks shaky, like you said, the offense not really doing a lot.

983
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:14.119
Yeah, I mean, I think
you could argue both quarterbacks looked rusty

984
01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:19.440
at points in this game. But
I think Clariss's struggles, I think manifested

985
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:25.000
itself and as in turnovers, whereas
for Fajardo really was just an off game

986
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:28.400
from him. And I think,
like I said, I attribute it to

987
01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:32.000
a lot to Winnipeg's defense really rounding
into form. And I think that it

988
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:37.280
will take a couple more weeks like
this to really be concerned about Fajardo,

989
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.199
because I think Fajardo's largely been pretty
good this season. I don't think that

990
01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:44.360
Caleb Evans is a full time starter
in this league. Played a couple of

991
01:00:44.400 --> 01:00:47.079
really good games, but I think
that you know, Fajardo really is the

992
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:51.719
starter for this team. I don't
think going to Evans full time as an

993
01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:55.360
option, so I mean I wouldn't
be too concerned just yet for Fajardo in

994
01:00:55.400 --> 01:01:00.679
Montreal. The last note I had
on this game, I'd watched this one

995
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:02.480
as well once it was I kind
of turned it off here at the end

996
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:07.400
of the fourth when it was up
a lot. I will just say Marshall

997
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:13.400
Ferguson is becoming is moving to a
different level here in terms of like we're

998
01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:17.079
tweeting shirtless videos, we're blaming Raindolais. I used to work in TV and

999
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:21.559
I always used to say, like
I cover the news, I don't make

1000
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:23.280
the news. I think Marshall needs
to cover the CFL will not be the

1001
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:27.400
CFL now. I don't think Marshall
is playing in the CFL game. I

1002
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:30.400
don't like this. This This bothers
me and it kind of obsess me.

1003
01:01:30.519 --> 01:01:32.519
And I don't know if anyone else
feels that way, but I just wanted

1004
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:37.119
to get that off my chest.
Otherwise, you know, a business as

1005
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:39.880
usual Winnipeg Evan anything else here.
We'll start kind of putting this show to

1006
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:45.599
bed here pretty soon. Luis says, questions by the times, you have

1007
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:50.199
a live show that covers the league
weekly. I agree. I think the

1008
01:01:50.320 --> 01:01:52.159
CFL kind of lives and dies and
you know, Sunday and then it goes

1009
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:54.360
away. I like doing the Monday
show, but you know, and like

1010
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:58.039
now when they're going to go to
double headers or whatever, like you really

1011
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:00.199
kind of do lose that week you
know, a weekday kind of stuff.

1012
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:02.960
I know, Twitter exists and all
that stuff. I haven't anything else from

1013
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:07.760
you, No, I don't think
so interesting point about Marshall Ferguson personally.

1014
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:10.400
I like Marshall. I think he's
a cool dude. But I get it.

1015
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:15.599
I get it, you know.
Uh. And then we had here,

1016
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:19.840
Oh we're talking that we're I'll get
it up here at the tray four

1017
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Bandwiga Jason. Anything else from you
on here? No? I think that

1018
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:27.159
covers just about everything for this game. Where is this again? Here?

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Oh yeah, coach Philips talking.
Now y'all don't jump on the tray four

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Bandwagan. Now, y'all the ones
praying for this far home, we're jumping

1021
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.280
the board, getting on board the
tray forward Bandwigan. Excited to hear about

1022
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:44.039
that. I guess let's look ahead
really quick games next week. Let me

1023
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:47.840
get that up here a week thirteen
BC at Montreal. Jason, are we

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01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:51.960
expecting anything different? I mean we
BC has had a couple of bounce back

1025
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.480
games here, but now Montreal is
probably the safest competition they faced in the

1026
01:02:54.559 --> 01:03:00.400
last couple of weeks. Yeah,
it's worth noting that BC has traditionally struggled

1027
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:04.039
when they've traveled to Montreal to play. I believe they lost their last year,

1028
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:07.000
so I think that's worth pointing out. I mean, I think that

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all four of these games when you
look at it, have some juice to

1030
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:15.199
them when you look ahead to next
weekend. So I'm really excited for the

1031
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:19.519
week ahead. Yeah. I just
thank God for the Mariners leading the LS

1032
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:22.920
right now. I really couldn't I
couldn't handle you know, let me you

1033
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:27.639
know, Commanders and defeated in preseason. That that's going strong Mariners here.

1034
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:30.360
We've had two a game win streaks
in the last month. But yeah,

1035
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:32.719
BC is really kind of struggling here. Evan, anything standing out for you

1036
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:37.960
for games ahead here? Yeah?
Overall, it's a good slate BC Montreal.

1037
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:40.280
I mean, first game of the
week, that one could could definitely

1038
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:45.320
be interesting. I just with the
way BC's playing now, I mean this

1039
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:47.719
is it's pretty much a must win
game for them. I think, not

1040
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:51.599
that it's you know, like not
that there's seasons on the line, but

1041
01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:54.519
just to kind of you know,
salvage well I don't even know if salvage

1042
01:03:54.559 --> 01:03:57.719
is the right term, but just
to get back to the way things were

1043
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.559
a couple of weeks ago. That's
the fucking line. But yeah, honestly,

1044
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:03.920
all these games, like Jason said, have some potential, even like

1045
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:09.880
Winnipeg at Saskatchewan, Toronto with Hamilton, I don't know. I feel like

1046
01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:13.840
Toronto will take that one. Still, Edmonton and Calgary that's like fifty fifty

1047
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.159
split for me. I have no
idea that one's gonna matter a lot too

1048
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:20.320
because of Edmonton wins that you know, Calgary and Emonton will have the same

1049
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:25.119
number of wins, which is just
unbelievable. That's the same record. They'll

1050
01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:29.239
they'll both be three and nine,
which is I don't know the fact that

1051
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:33.239
that's even like maybe maybe we haven't
talked enough about Calgary this season, but

1052
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:38.320
I'm gonna save that for another day. Yeah, well, I appreciate it.

1053
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:41.519
Like I said, it should be
good. Make sure you're subscribed.

1054
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:45.440
And then Jason will do his stuff
is previews and everything else on his channel.

1055
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:47.840
Remember we got Randy Ambrosie coming up
on Friday. I gotta figure out

1056
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:51.599
send a couple more emails. I
think Pat's coming on to do the XFL.

1057
01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:55.559
I would cut down day with the
NFL here coming up, and then

1058
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.519
still trying to work on some interviews. But should be a good show,

1059
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:00.280
Like I said, as you know, seventeen minutes or so with a commissioner,

1060
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:02.280
I thought it was I thought it
was good. Like I said,

1061
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.360
I asked him, like, you
know, what do you want your legacy

1062
01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:06.400
to be? And he kind of
b asked at first, and I thought

1063
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:09.239
he kind of had a good answer
where you know, you kind of got

1064
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:12.559
to get I think like it was
the same thing when I had Amar Doman

1065
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:15.239
on before, Like I think you
got to get passed about the first ten

1066
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:17.360
fifteen minutes. I'm like, okay, here's all my pre programs soundbites.

1067
01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:19.920
Did I say? I think once
you get passed, I think you get

1068
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:23.440
a little bit of goal. But
I thought Randy was good. I like

1069
01:05:23.639 --> 01:05:25.679
him a lot. I know he
gets a lot of slack, but I

1070
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:29.559
thought that it was a good interview. Evan appreciate it. Good luck at

1071
01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:32.119
college this week, Jason, everything
else and stand up till it. What

1072
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:36.440
was it five name? I'm watching
in the game. Like I said,

1073
01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:41.760
thanks everyone, and yes Luis I
did ask him about expansion, so we

1074
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:44.519
get all of that stuff. Should
be good. Thanks everyone, We'll see

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01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:45.280
you next time.