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Hey, guys, welcome to welcome
back to the podcast. I'm your friend

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Mattie and I'm joined with a very
special guest today. Do you want to

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introduce yourself? Friend of the podcast? Hello, everybody, I'm Aiden,

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Maddie's wonderful boyfriend. Yeah. Actually, I feel like you haven't been on

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the podcast in a long time.
Have you been on since you did the

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episode with me about this shoot?
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I have not. Yeah, things
have changed since then, for sure.

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We actually tried to record an episode
one time about guys. I remember it

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was like guys opinions on girls and
like, I think you were answering our

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audience's questions about guys. But I
had stopped throat and I was unwell,

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so it didn't make the make the
cut. We couldn't even finish the episode.

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We were so dead, that's true. Yeah. Well, I'm happy

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to be back on. Yeah,
thanks for coming. So let's start off

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with a little life update because this
is what we usually do on the show.

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But Lauren's not here, So why
don't you start off what you been

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up to recently? Any upcoming exciting
things we can talk about our trip.

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I think I mentioned it on last
week's episode. But we're going to Tennessee

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tomorrow. Yeah. Life has been
great. I just graduated USC Film School,

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so I'm very happy about that.
Besides that, what has been going

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on for me just working, trying
to you know, better myself and stuff,

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working out, eating healthy, making
sure that life is in good balance.

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Yeah, we have a great trip
coming up to Tennessee. We're going

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to visit my grandfather. He has
a ranch out there and he does a

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big Christmas party tradition every year that
we go to. So it should be

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quite the adventure, I think.
So if you were going to tell me

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what it's like there, because I've
never been to Tennessee, what would your

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description of it be like? What's
the town like, and what's the vibes

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of the place everything. The thing
is is that it's hard for me to

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explain it because for a little bit
of just to preface this, my grandfather

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used to own a big manor that
he built. He sold the property and

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then he'd rent it back every weekend
for this trip and party. It's rule

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Chattanooga. Tennessee is a small town, but it's up and coming. It's

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an hour and a half two hours
from Nashville. It's a very beautiful town.

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It's nice, it's quaint, but
it's it's very it's beautiful. You're

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gonna love it. I've been going
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interesting, and we can dress in
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cold. It's like the perfect winter. It's not too cold. I don't

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know fahrenheit and like cold temperatures that
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it's like ten to fourteen and then
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how do you have you done your
research? I looked about Yeah, because

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I have to pack today. So
it's like fourteen fifteen during the day,

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which is great, and then at
night it's around zero, so it's not

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freezing like in Toronto. Is it
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No? It looked it was really
nice. There's like hurricanes in Tennessee.

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You know, did tornado tornadoes?
Well, we're super excited. I know,

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I'm super excited for the trip,
super excited to experience some new things,

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I meet some new people. Sounds
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are attending. Yeah, around fifty
people. I can't wait to see what

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it's like. It's going to be
a good time. It's just great because

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it's like spending time with family,
extended family and people that honestly I've known

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since I was one years old,
but have never I only see them once

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a year, so it's like you
kind of forget about the time in between

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you see them, but then you
just pick up where you left off and

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conversations and stuff, and it's just
a it's a nice break from La,

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especially going out there. Yeah,
it's so nice that he has this party

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and organizes it every single year,
because when there's not someone who's keeping everyone

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together, it's hard for everyone to
see each other. And the thing is

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is that this has been going on
for decades. He used to do Fourth

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of July parties where people would fly
in from New York, La, Europe

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and there were these massive, massive, like I said, Great Gatsby parties

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where there would be bands and fireworks
and Hawaiian pig roasts and just like mass

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extravagant stuff, and that's what would
bring everybody together. It's like we're looking

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forward to next year, and then
you know a year later, everyone's so

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excited again. There has to be
someone who's the organizer or really values that

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time with a group of people and
can make it happen because it is hard

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to see everyone. Even with my
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we organize a party. At Christmas, my whole family flew home. I

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don't know if I said this on
the podcast, but my siblings flew home

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to Toronto to go to our family
Christmas party. I unfortunately wasn't able to

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go because I did a photo shoot
on Saturday. But they sent photos and

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it was just funny because my whole
family was like in my kitchen and my

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parents were really they wanted us to
go home because like you guys, we

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don't see our family during the year
really. But yeah, I'm so excited

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for the trip, so excited to
get out of LA It's been a long

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time. Well, we were away
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that, I haven't trouble really been
anywhere. I mean little California trips to

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Palm Springs and stuff, but not
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plane for a while. Yeah,
we're super excited. Otherwise, I really

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don't have any life updates. I
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The photos have just started to be
posted, so if you see any nice

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winter holiday photos that was from this
weekend, And honestly, I was just

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I was impressed with how quickly that
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of work in a short amount of
time. We were on the phone at

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like six pm the night before trying
to get insurance and I really didn't know

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if this photo shoot was going to
go ahead. It was kind of stressful.

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Yeah, but it worked out.
I'm happy with the way that it

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turned out and actually ended up being
very much worthwhile. Another life update is

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I think that my family's going to
go to Lake Tahoe over Christmas break to

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go skiing. My mom was outvoted. She always wants to go somewhere warm,

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but Lake Tahoe is super close to
La so it's somewhere that you can

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go in the window and go skiing. And we actually like staying on the

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West coast, like California or Lake
to I was like on the border of

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California and Nevada because there's so many
cool places in California that you can go

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and have different experiences, like it's
seventy degree seventy degrees here during the day,

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and then you can go four or
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and you're skiing in like proper mountains, right. It's very cool to live

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in a place like that. Yeah, so I'm super excited for all of

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the upcoming things and for the holidays. We got our Christmas trees. Aiden

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and I both got our Christmas trees
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We have decorated yours, but I'm
waiting for my family to come. I

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think because Lauren likes to be the
decorator. She usually places all the ornaments

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and stuff. But your tree looks
really great. I didn't even decorate my

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own tree. Yeah, your mom
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it, which was very nice.
She's very organized. I've received an ornament

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every year since I was born,
so I've accumulated quite a few ornaments and

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have my own collection now and it's
every year. It's something that I'm either

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into or some sort of small accomplishment
or you know, something like that.

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Yes, it's cool. It's a
nice idea because I was telling Aiden's mom,

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I love how trees look that our
uniform and have like the nice white

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or red, but like what are
they called, like the round ones,

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bulbs, balls, decorations. I
wish I could insert a photo if this

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was my tree. Yeah, but
I used to love that, Like I

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love like the Kardashian tree. It
was like very beautiful. Obviously they didn't

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decorate themselves, but there is something
really nice when you look back at the

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ornaments that you have collected and you
look at your tree and it means something.

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And I think you said, like, it's cool to look back at

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all the things that I was interested
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visual depiction of my childhood, which
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that idea of having a super uniform, classy, like extravagant tree. Yeah,

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when you know, maybe in the
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trees where one is going to be
like that in the main room and then

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in the cozy living room we can
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But that's a good idea. It's
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own. I think, yeah,
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I now appreciate It's funny like when
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your parents, Like my mom would
put the ornaments that we made when we

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were kids that were like ugly from
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I'd be like, oh, this
looks so bad, but now I appreciate

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it more, or like when I
see yours, I appreciate it. Yeah,

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it's nice to look at it.
It's just cozy. Mmmm. Yeah,

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it's meaningful too. Anyway, let's
get into the episode. So a

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couple weeks ago, I think it
was two weeks ago, maybe I'm like

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losing track of time, but we
did an episode about relationship rules, and

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I thought that it would be very
interesting for aiden to come on and comment

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on what we said about relationship rules, because obviously we're in a relationship,

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but I want you to give advice
or like your general thoughts, not in

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relation to us, because the what
Laura and I said is every relationship is

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different, so I don't really have
or like we would always have that as

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a caveat, like I mean,
depends on how much you trust them,

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or it depends on what type of
person they are, or like you'll see,

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won't get into it, but I
would ask, can you do this

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without applying it to your relationship now
and just say, like your general thoughts

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on it? Yeah, like just
more of an objective. Yeah, like

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what is your thought on this,
because that's what we try to do.

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But then every time it was like, oh, but it depends on your

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relationship. Fire away, let's see. Okay, number one, I know

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what you're gonna say about this posting
on Instagram your girlfriend or boyfriend. What

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is your thought? Do you think
that's something that you should do if you're

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in a relationship or doesn't matter?
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you're in a real relationship ship where
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then that will just come naturally,
like if you post a photo together

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or something. But you know,
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all the with the whole new influencer
era and stuff, yeah, you can

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see a true distinction of who cares
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for me personally, I guess I'm
not supposed to personally, but not in

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relation to me, just like how
would you feel. I've my own experience

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with my relationships is that I've never
posted like much. Really. It's like,

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yeah, I post and it's nice
photos of us or or you or

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whatever, but it's not thought out. Actually, you know, I saw

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a post the other day where it
was it was some sort of statistic,

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but I don't know how backed up
the evidence is. But it was like

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happy couples don't post as much,
and people who were unhappy actually post each

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other way more just to get the
approval of friends or the internet. But

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that's what I was gonna say.
I feel like, if it's too much,

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it's almost like you have something to
prove and then or it's like there's

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a reason you're doing it. But
I agree with you. I think that

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posting when you like a photo is
fine, like if you if you want

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to post something because you like it
of a person or YouTube together, that's

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great, but it doesn't need to
be a forced thing. But on the

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other hand, like I don't know
if do you know who Alex Earl is?

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Is that a girl? Yeah?
No, okay, good. Anyway,

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she broke up with her first boyfriend
because he wouldn't post her And I

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think if someone's like adamant about never
posting a photo of you, it's a

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little bit sketchy, like if they're
trying to hide you. He was,

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I think a baseball player or something, so maybe he was trying to be

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single. Maybe it's just his professional
career. He just couldn't. I think

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she thought that he was potentially trying
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because he was like traveling around or
whatever, So that obviously would be upsetting

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to me too. But I don't
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regular basis, Like you shouldn't feelhidden. But I also don't think you should

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overpost just because for the sake of
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sense to me. I've never even
heard of this, but this is something

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Lauren said, having your boyfriend and
your Instagram profile picture or girlfriend. Sorry,

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that's like high school. It's like
a high school thing. Yeah,

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she said it. That's what people
did in high school. Really, mm

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hmm. I thought it was always
in your bio or something like that.

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Same vibes, like if you're private, you're account's private, someone can see

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that you're taken. I mean,
Mark Zuckerberg created the relationship status check mark

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on Facebook so people could know.
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reason. But at the same point, I think it's just like childish at

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this age. I wouldn't care if
my boyfriend didn't have me in this profile

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picture. I would think it was
weird if he did to be honest,

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I think, yeah, it's just
like a bit obsessive. I think,

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yeah, I agree. Okay,
how do you feel about going through their

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phone? I like looking at and
texts whatever, just like the phone policy.

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I guess, yeah, that's a
hard one. I mean, I

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don't know. I think going through
somebody's phone without permission is pretty invasive.

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I think if there's something you want
to see or you don't trust, then

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a nice ask can you know,
strike up a conversation about it and have

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them show you. But I think
the phone, like, there's so much

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stigma around phones and relationships because you
can hide so much and you can have

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a whole separate life really on your
phone. And I just think that,

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like it's hard not to talk from
personal with us. But if you want

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to go through someone's phone or you
want to see text, ask don't do

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it without permission or it's just going
to cause a whole line of fights.

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But I mean, I don't know, what do you think? What's your

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status on that? I forget what
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honestly, I have no idea what
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say is, if you have a
reason that you want to look through somebody's

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phone. I think you should bring
that up rather than just doing it.

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Don't do it, bring it up, but don't just look through their phones.

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But the thing is if you ask, then they can say no or

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they can delete stuff. Yeah.
Yeah, Like you shouldn't be at a

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point where you need to look through
someone's phone without them knowing. Yeah.

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Right, Like Lauren said, I
don't want to be in a relationship like

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that where you're like feeling like you
need to look through someone's phone. And

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I guess I agree with that.
I get, like, I understand that

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perspective where you would hope that you
don't have to worry about what's on someone's

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phone. Regardless of the worry,
I think it's an invasion of privacy to

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look through somebody's phone. I mean, it's personal. But at the same

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time, yeah, maybe you'll gain
something out of it. Yeah, I

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don't know. It's a hard one
to answer. Lots of debates on that,

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but it really this is like the
one of the ones that really depends

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on the situation. I really depends
on the situation. I said. I

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would never read someone's conversations like with
their friends or family like things that have

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nothing to do with you, Like
if you're looking on someone's phone for even

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objective of like to see if they
were talking to a specific person or whatever,

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that's different. But I wouldn't like
snoop through someone's phone or like search

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my name or anything like that.
Do you think having like like in new

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relationships, having phone passwords and like
locations, Well, that's our next one

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location. I said, okay when
we did this episode originally, and I

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said, I don't care if somebody
has my location because I don't lie about

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where I'm going. And I also
like don't care that much about privacy.

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But I would say you can combine
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Like I wouldn't want my boyfriend to
read my text with my friends because

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the way that I talk to my
friends is different than the way that I

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would talk to them, And like, there's just things between your friends.

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That's how girls are with each other. They that's how they talk. So

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I personally don't care about that.
But I think sharing location is like who

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cares share it? Share your dawnload. It's not that big of a deal.

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Just share it. And also I
think sometimes it's a it's a safety

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thing, Like I mean, I
share my locate. I have all my

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boys, all my buddies' location,
I have my famili's my mom and my

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dad, I have yours. I'd
actually rarely check it, if ever,

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if I'm curious where you are or
if you don't respond, or you know,

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hey, where is this person?
But it's not like people can get

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obsessed with having someone's location and then
they can constantly check it to like you

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know, it just kind of you
can go down a rabbit hole with these

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things. Same with having someone's phone
password or you know, you have the

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power to like see where they are
and know what's going on. But I

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wouldn't lie about where I'm going though, Like I don't care if my password

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I am, I not my password, my location or my boyfriend or my

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siblings. Like I just don't care
because if they asked me where I am,

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I would tell them. Like in
high school, I remember, I'd

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be like I don't want my parents
to have my location. What if I

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was at my someone else's house and
I said I was at my friend's house

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or like they were like concerned about
where I was. But with my family,

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that's because we all wanted to sneak
out in high school to go and

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do stupid stuff, right, But
I get why they wanted it, But

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I also get why people didn't want
to share it because you were not doing

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what you said you were. But
now it's like, if I'm telling my

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parents I'm home, that I'm home
or else, I would just you know

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what I mean, Like, they
don't care what I'm doing. Same with

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you, Like if I told you
I was somewhere, I wouldn't lie about

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where I was. So if you
want to have my location, that's fine.

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Actually, like one of my friends
was like, can I have your

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location? I feel I feel worried
about you being alone who I'll tell you

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after, But I'm like, yeah, sure you get on my location.

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Interesting, okay, next one,
hanging out with other girls slash guys alone,

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I think it's okay if your friends, if it's you know, a

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family friend or something, or you
can trust the person, I think I

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think it's fine. I mean if
the guy, yeah, it just depends

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on the situation, I think as
well. But if you have the thing

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is you don't have many guy friends, so I feel like it's kind of

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hard. But because I didn't grow
up here, right, but if you

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had a really, you know,
close guy friend who you were friends with

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for a long time, and you
guys would occasionally get lunch or chat on

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the phone, as long as everything
was appropriate, I wouldn't mind whatsoever.

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And I think the same goes for
girls. But you know that that's just

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my thought on it. It depends
totally on the person. It depends on

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how they treat So, say,
if it was you, like how that

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person would treat me, and also
how that person treats you, like what

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I've witnessed, I think, because
if it was someone who it was clearly

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just a friendship, then I'd be
like, yeah, for sure. But

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you're saying if there's some sort of
ulterior motive or just like if they were

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not nice to me, then I
wouldn't want you know what I mean,

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Like, yeah, if there was
like some weird dynamic between me and them

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or you and them, then I
would say no. But if it was

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just a girl, like, yeah, I totally agree. If you grew

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up in a place and you had
friends in high school or you had friends

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in university, like I have that
more in Toronto because that's where I grew

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up. But yeah, there's no
problem with that, or like a family

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friend that you've known forever, Like
I've met one of your family friends in

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the summer, and like, obviously
if you were hanging out with her,

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I would never have any concern,
do you know what I mean? Yeah,

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Like that is a perfect example,
because yeah, you have obviously you

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have to trust the person that you're
in a relationship with. To hang out

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with people that are the opposite gender, I I agree. I think if

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it's a family friend, it's fine. If it's someone who's hitting on you,

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right, if it ever gets weird, then no. But I feel

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like you would be worried about guys
because something my dad says all the time

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is girls and guys can't be friends. Well, I think because of the

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way the guys are. I think
girls some girls and maybe I can't so

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cut this out if it's too too
much. I think girls are sometimes naive

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with guys. I think a lot
of guys have a specific motive with girls,

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and I think that a lot of
guys just want to get with girls,

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and it's hard for guys to be
friends with girls. I'll just put

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it out there. I mean,
that's what my dad says. It's like

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kind of imple guy wants to be
your friend. I'm like, yes he

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does, but honestly he's kind of
right, like the he's very right.

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But friends, especially in LA he
was like, those guys are not your

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friends. And it's kind of true. And that's why I say nothing just

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naive in this sense is that,
for instance, I have a friend who

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was in town for a while and
she was on a dating app, and

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was on that dating app or on
that dating app, there was two options,

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either one for dating and one for
finding friends, and she believed that

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every guy that would message her to
hang out on the friend side of it

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was in it to be friends.
And then later she found out that they

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all wanted to take her own dates. So but she said, well,

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I want it for friends, so
I just want to be friends. And

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to me, that's what I mean
when saying naive. But yeah, I

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think that if you're a pretty girl
and you're in Los Angeles, the chances

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of a guy trying to be just
your friend are very very low. But

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that's why I'm saying family friends is
fine because there's a history and it's deep

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rooted and you know the parents,
and it's that you know, if you

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mess up in a you know,
conversation or something, then it gets back

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to the parents. Then it creates
weird dynamic for the whole friend group.

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But anyways, interesting, Yeah,
I agree with that, but that's also

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an LA thing. Like I had
my friend Abby here. Well, I

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guess it goes both ways because in
Toronto, like girls and guys aren't really

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close friends that would like hang out
alone as much as here, Like she's

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like, yeah, that would never
happen for me, like in her relationship.

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But then also I think the guys
here are more I don't know what

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the right word is. That's like
not so negative, but they have a

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very specific objective, Like guys are
more like honest. In in Toronto,

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they're like I don't know, I
think, yeah, I mean, look,

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I'm biased because I grew up here. I think the people who were

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born and raised here actually are very
honest. And the guys that I know

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are normal, you know, my
like my hometown boys, and they're very

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like Alejandro men Aaron Yea, they're
very honest, normal and wholesome people.

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They're normal people, and their motives
and objectives when it comes to females and

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just the relationship they have tons of
girlfriends, so it's not them. It's

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like the people that move here that
just want this fifteen minutes of fame,

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Hollywood lifestyle. It's like an appearance
thing. It's an appearance thing. But

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look, this town is flooded with
those kind of people. So that's why

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when girls come here, or if
you move here like yourself, and you

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go to these events, you're gonna
run into eighty percent of those guys,

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if not more. Yeah, it
depends the circles that you hang out in.

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But for that or in that circle, for sure, you're right last,

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but not least. We have having
dating apps on your phone or like

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actively using a dating app, like, would that be considered cheating in your

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relationship or in a relationship in general? I don't think it's cheating. I

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just think it's weird, like you're
searching for other options. You don't think

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it's cheating. It's not cheating.
I mean, no, it's not technically

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cheating. I think it's cheating unless
you meet up with somebody. I don't

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think it's cheating. And that's just
me personally. But yeah, if you

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have a if you have a dating
app and you're constantly swiping you probably shouldn't

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be with that person, right,
If you're swiping on an app or you

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have conversations with people, to me, that's cheating. I don't think it's

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cheating. I think cheating is if
you kiss or have sex with somebody,

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or you know, I think go
on a date with somebody else, that's

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cheating. But what's the point of
having a dating app and like swiping through

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and having conversations with people. That's
a good it's a great question. It's

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too there's an objective, which is
like if I was on Riah swiping,

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people are like, let's hang out, let's meet up for drinks, let's

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whatever. Maybe you're not getting what
you need from the current relationship, so

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you're reaching out to other people just
to get a just to feed your your

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ego. Maybe it's not to meet
up. I don't know. I'm trying

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to speak objectively. Here be the
Devil's advocate. But I don't think it's

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cheating. I think it's weird and
you should probably have a serious conversation.

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But cheating no interesting. I think
I said it was cheating last time we

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did this. I think Lauren agreed
that it's just like not okay, in

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a relationship to have dating apps.
Sure it's not okay, But like I

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said, I don't think I think
the traditional definition of cheating, I don't

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even know if you want to pull
it up. Let's because I think any

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unfaithfulness and to me, that is
unfaithful because you're pursuing something with another person.

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Right, Maybe you're like, you're
right on that sense, maybe it

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agrees with the definition, but I
think that cheating, it doesn't. Really.

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I think it's weird. I think
it's strange. I think there's ulterior

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motives, but I don't think it's
cheating, Okay. Cheating, also known

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as infidelity, is when a person
in a monogamous romantic relationship has an emotional

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or sexual relationship with someone else without
their partner's consent. So, in a

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traditional standpoint, I would be right, it depends what type of conversations you're

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having, Like, if you have
an emotional relationship with someone else, to

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me, that's cheating. Yeah.
But the thing is is when you say

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it depends, let's take that out
of the equation. Let's just go based

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off of what this definition says.
It's when a person in a monogamous relationship

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has an emotional or sexual relationship with
someone else without their partner's consent. What

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I get from that is somebody meeting
up with another woman or like, let's

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just say it, I call it
an affair. When you know, married

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couples have affairs, they actively have
other relationships with either a man or a

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woman, and they're meeting up with
them and having you know, intimate relationship.

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So I think it's weird to go
on a dating app and talk to

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somebody and seek out other people.
But like you said, maybe it depends

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and there's something going on in that
relationship where they haven't figured it out.

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But we can agree to disagree on
that, right, I just wouldn't be

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with someone that was on a dating
app. Like. Also, I think

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it's weird because what if your friends
were like, oh, by the way,

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I was swiping on this app and
I saw your boyfriend, Like,

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that's one of the reasons. And
then also just because I think you're right

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if you're not or if you're swiping
on an app looking for other people,

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it's an indication that you're an unhappy
like you're unhappy in what you have.

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You ever had a dating at before? I have? Well, I guess

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I've already said it Rya, But
yeah, I was on Riya, but

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it's like not real, Like I
was never like, oh, I want

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to hang out with these people.
What was your purpose of being on the

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app? Just to meet guys and
just to maybe find somebody in this town?

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Is that kind of Yeah? I
moved to La. Like you can't

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really use Ryan other places because there's
not that many people on it. I

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don't know if it's changed now,
but I remember originally I was like,

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Okay. In Toronto, obviously no
one's on Riya really, but in La

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it's more of a thing. So
I would swipe on that occasionally, but

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it was all just like boring,
meaningless conversation that doesn't bother me whatsoever.

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If you had that in the past, now, if you were on Ryan

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now and you were you know,
like like hypothetically, if you still had

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it but you just like weren't using
it, If your profile was still active

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and you were receiving notifications but you
weren't using it on your end, I

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wouldn't care that much, but I'd
say just delete it, I think at

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this point totally. No. If
it was on my phone, that's a

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different story. But if you could
see that I was messaging people to me

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that's cheating or like, it's just
you shouldn't be in a relationship then because

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you want to be single, you
want to be on ride of swiping.

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Yes, I don't like I said, I don't think it's traditionally cheating,

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but I think that it's pretty close
to that direction, it's headed in that

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direction. I agree. Yeah.
Well, I'm glad we came to a

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conclusion on that one, and that's
it. So happy we came to a

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conclusion that is it for our relationship
rules and for aidens feedback on them.

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Thanks for coming on the podcast,
my bi annually debut. Yeah, it's

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actually probably been a year since you
came on. Oh, well annually.

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Then there you go. I'll be
back on next Christmas. Everybody, thank

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you so much for listening to this
week's episode, and we'll talk to you

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next Friday. See you later,
hye m h. Well, well, well