Hey, guys, welcome to welcome back to the podcast. I'm your friend
Mattie and I'm joined with a very special guest today. Do you want to
introduce yourself? Friend of the podcast? Hello, everybody, I'm Aiden,
Maddie's wonderful boyfriend. Yeah. Actually, I feel like you haven't been on
the podcast in a long time. Have you been on since you did the
episode with me about this shoot? No, it's been a long time.
I have not. Yeah, things have changed since then, for sure.
We actually tried to record an episode one time about guys. I remember it
was like guys opinions on girls and like, I think you were answering our
audience's questions about guys. But I had stopped throat and I was unwell,
so it didn't make the make the cut. We couldn't even finish the episode.
We were so dead, that's true. Yeah. Well, I'm happy
to be back on. Yeah, thanks for coming. So let's start off
with a little life update because this is what we usually do on the show.
But Lauren's not here, So why don't you start off what you been
up to recently? Any upcoming exciting things we can talk about our trip.
I think I mentioned it on last week's episode. But we're going to Tennessee
tomorrow. Yeah. Life has been great. I just graduated USC Film School,
so I'm very happy about that. Besides that, what has been going
on for me just working, trying to you know, better myself and stuff,
working out, eating healthy, making sure that life is in good balance.
Yeah, we have a great trip coming up to Tennessee. We're going
to visit my grandfather. He has a ranch out there and he does a
big Christmas party tradition every year that we go to. So it should be
quite the adventure, I think. So if you were going to tell me
what it's like there, because I've never been to Tennessee, what would your
description of it be like? What's the town like, and what's the vibes
of the place everything. The thing is is that it's hard for me to
explain it because for a little bit of just to preface this, my grandfather
used to own a big manor that he built. He sold the property and
then he'd rent it back every weekend for this trip and party. It's rule
Chattanooga. Tennessee is a small town, but it's up and coming. It's
an hour and a half two hours from Nashville. It's a very beautiful town.
It's nice, it's quaint, but it's it's very it's beautiful. You're
gonna love it. I've been going there since I was a kid. Very
interesting, and we can dress in some winter clothes because it's going to be
cold. It's like the perfect winter. It's not too cold. I don't
know fahrenheit and like cold temperatures that well, but it's above zero daytime,
it's like ten to fourteen and then at night. No, in Chattanooga,
how do you have you done your research? I looked about Yeah, because
I have to pack today. So it's like fourteen fifteen during the day,
which is great, and then at night it's around zero, so it's not
freezing like in Toronto. Is it raining? Is it going to rain?
No? It looked it was really nice. There's like hurricanes in Tennessee.
You know, did tornado tornadoes? Well, we're super excited. I know,
I'm super excited for the trip, super excited to experience some new things,
I meet some new people. Sounds like there's a lot of people that
are attending. Yeah, around fifty people. I can't wait to see what
it's like. It's going to be a good time. It's just great because
it's like spending time with family, extended family and people that honestly I've known
since I was one years old, but have never I only see them once
a year, so it's like you kind of forget about the time in between
you see them, but then you just pick up where you left off and
conversations and stuff, and it's just a it's a nice break from La,
especially going out there. Yeah, it's so nice that he has this party
and organizes it every single year, because when there's not someone who's keeping everyone
together, it's hard for everyone to see each other. And the thing is
is that this has been going on for decades. He used to do Fourth
of July parties where people would fly in from New York, La, Europe
and there were these massive, massive, like I said, Great Gatsby parties
where there would be bands and fireworks and Hawaiian pig roasts and just like mass
extravagant stuff, and that's what would bring everybody together. It's like we're looking
forward to next year, and then you know a year later, everyone's so
excited again. There has to be someone who's the organizer or really values that
time with a group of people and can make it happen because it is hard
to see everyone. Even with my family, we don't really see people unless
we organize a party. At Christmas, my whole family flew home. I
don't know if I said this on the podcast, but my siblings flew home
to Toronto to go to our family Christmas party. I unfortunately wasn't able to
go because I did a photo shoot on Saturday. But they sent photos and
it was just funny because my whole family was like in my kitchen and my
parents were really they wanted us to go home because like you guys, we
don't see our family during the year really. But yeah, I'm so excited
for the trip, so excited to get out of LA It's been a long
time. Well, we were away together in the summer, but other than
that, I haven't trouble really been anywhere. I mean little California trips to
Palm Springs and stuff, but not sit on a plane, not on a
plane for a while. Yeah, we're super excited. Otherwise, I really
don't have any life updates. I did a fun photo shoot on Saturday.
The photos have just started to be posted, so if you see any nice
winter holiday photos that was from this weekend, And honestly, I was just
I was impressed with how quickly that was put together because it was a lot
of work in a short amount of time. We were on the phone at
like six pm the night before trying to get insurance and I really didn't know
if this photo shoot was going to go ahead. It was kind of stressful.
Yeah, but it worked out. I'm happy with the way that it
turned out and actually ended up being very much worthwhile. Another life update is
I think that my family's going to go to Lake Tahoe over Christmas break to
go skiing. My mom was outvoted. She always wants to go somewhere warm,
but Lake Tahoe is super close to La so it's somewhere that you can
go in the window and go skiing. And we actually like staying on the
West coast, like California or Lake to I was like on the border of
California and Nevada because there's so many cool places in California that you can go
and have different experiences, like it's seventy degree seventy degrees here during the day,
and then you can go four or five hours north or an hour flight
and you're skiing in like proper mountains, right. It's very cool to live
in a place like that. Yeah, so I'm super excited for all of
the upcoming things and for the holidays. We got our Christmas trees. Aiden
and I both got our Christmas trees on Sunday and we set them up.
We have decorated yours, but I'm waiting for my family to come. I
think because Lauren likes to be the decorator. She usually places all the ornaments
and stuff. But your tree looks really great. I didn't even decorate my
own tree. Yeah, your mom came over. I came over and did
it, which was very nice. She's very organized. I've received an ornament
every year since I was born, so I've accumulated quite a few ornaments and
have my own collection now and it's every year. It's something that I'm either
into or some sort of small accomplishment or you know, something like that.
Yes, it's cool. It's a nice idea because I was telling Aiden's mom,
I love how trees look that our uniform and have like the nice white
or red, but like what are they called, like the round ones,
bulbs, balls, decorations. I wish I could insert a photo if this
was my tree. Yeah, but I used to love that, Like I
love like the Kardashian tree. It was like very beautiful. Obviously they didn't
decorate themselves, but there is something really nice when you look back at the
ornaments that you have collected and you look at your tree and it means something.
And I think you said, like, it's cool to look back at
all the things that I was interested in as a kid. It's like a
visual depiction of my childhood, which is such a nice idea. I like
that idea of having a super uniform, classy, like extravagant tree. Yeah,
when you know, maybe in the future I can have a couple of
trees where one is going to be like that in the main room and then
in the cozy living room we can have the tree with all the memories.
But that's a good idea. It's just, you know, to each one's
own. I think, yeah, I used to like that, but then
I now appreciate It's funny like when you get older, you appreciate things that
your parents, Like my mom would put the ornaments that we made when we
were kids that were like ugly from like grade two on the tree, and
I'd be like, oh, this looks so bad, but now I appreciate
it more, or like when I see yours, I appreciate it. Yeah,
it's nice to look at it. It's just cozy. Mmmm. Yeah,
it's meaningful too. Anyway, let's get into the episode. So a
couple weeks ago, I think it was two weeks ago, maybe I'm like
losing track of time, but we did an episode about relationship rules, and
I thought that it would be very interesting for aiden to come on and comment
on what we said about relationship rules, because obviously we're in a relationship,
but I want you to give advice or like your general thoughts, not in
relation to us, because the what Laura and I said is every relationship is
different, so I don't really have or like we would always have that as
a caveat, like I mean, depends on how much you trust them,
or it depends on what type of person they are, or like you'll see,
won't get into it, but I would ask, can you do this
without applying it to your relationship now and just say, like your general thoughts
on it? Yeah, like just more of an objective. Yeah, like
what is your thought on this, because that's what we try to do.
But then every time it was like, oh, but it depends on your
relationship. Fire away, let's see. Okay, number one, I know
what you're gonna say about this posting on Instagram your girlfriend or boyfriend. What
is your thought? Do you think that's something that you should do if you're
in a relationship or doesn't matter? I think personally, I think that if
you're in a real relationship ship where you both love and care about each other,
then that will just come naturally, like if you post a photo together
or something. But you know, being growing up in LA and just seeing
all the with the whole new influencer era and stuff, yeah, you can
see a true distinction of who cares and who doesn't care that much. But
for me personally, I guess I'm not supposed to personally, but not in
relation to me, just like how would you feel. I've my own experience
with my relationships is that I've never posted like much. Really. It's like,
yeah, I post and it's nice photos of us or or you or
whatever, but it's not thought out. Actually, you know, I saw
a post the other day where it was it was some sort of statistic,
but I don't know how backed up the evidence is. But it was like
happy couples don't post as much, and people who were unhappy actually post each
other way more just to get the approval of friends or the internet. But
that's what I was gonna say. I feel like, if it's too much,
it's almost like you have something to prove and then or it's like there's
a reason you're doing it. But I agree with you. I think that
posting when you like a photo is fine, like if you if you want
to post something because you like it of a person or YouTube together, that's
great, but it doesn't need to be a forced thing. But on the
other hand, like I don't know if do you know who Alex Earl is?
Is that a girl? Yeah? No, okay, good. Anyway,
she broke up with her first boyfriend because he wouldn't post her And I
think if someone's like adamant about never posting a photo of you, it's a
little bit sketchy, like if they're trying to hide you. He was,
I think a baseball player or something, so maybe he was trying to be
single. Maybe it's just his professional career. He just couldn't. I think
she thought that he was potentially trying to appear single, got it okay,
because he was like traveling around or whatever, So that obviously would be upsetting
to me too. But I don't care if someone's not posting me on a
regular basis, Like you shouldn't feelhidden. But I also don't think you should
overpost just because for the sake of it. Number two, this made no
sense to me. I've never even heard of this, but this is something
Lauren said, having your boyfriend and your Instagram profile picture or girlfriend. Sorry,
that's like high school. It's like a high school thing. Yeah,
she said it. That's what people did in high school. Really, mm
hmm. I thought it was always in your bio or something like that.
Same vibes, like if you're private, you're account's private, someone can see
that you're taken. I mean, Mark Zuckerberg created the relationship status check mark
on Facebook so people could know. So yeah, I guess that's for a
reason. But at the same point, I think it's just like childish at
this age. I wouldn't care if my boyfriend didn't have me in this profile
picture. I would think it was weird if he did to be honest,
I think, yeah, it's just like a bit obsessive. I think,
yeah, I agree. Okay, how do you feel about going through their
phone? I like looking at and texts whatever, just like the phone policy.
I guess, yeah, that's a hard one. I mean, I
don't know. I think going through somebody's phone without permission is pretty invasive.
I think if there's something you want to see or you don't trust, then
a nice ask can you know, strike up a conversation about it and have
them show you. But I think the phone, like, there's so much
stigma around phones and relationships because you can hide so much and you can have
a whole separate life really on your phone. And I just think that,
like it's hard not to talk from personal with us. But if you want
to go through someone's phone or you want to see text, ask don't do
it without permission or it's just going to cause a whole line of fights.
But I mean, I don't know, what do you think? What's your
status on that? I forget what I said Originally, I think I said
honestly, I have no idea what I said. But now what I would
say is, if you have a reason that you want to look through somebody's
phone. I think you should bring that up rather than just doing it.
Don't do it, bring it up, but don't just look through their phones.
But the thing is if you ask, then they can say no or
they can delete stuff. Yeah. Yeah, Like you shouldn't be at a
point where you need to look through someone's phone without them knowing. Yeah.
Right, Like Lauren said, I don't want to be in a relationship like
that where you're like feeling like you need to look through someone's phone. And
I guess I agree with that. I get, like, I understand that
perspective where you would hope that you don't have to worry about what's on someone's
phone. Regardless of the worry, I think it's an invasion of privacy to
look through somebody's phone. I mean, it's personal. But at the same
time, yeah, maybe you'll gain something out of it. Yeah, I
don't know. It's a hard one to answer. Lots of debates on that,
but it really this is like the one of the ones that really depends
on the situation. I really depends on the situation. I said. I
would never read someone's conversations like with their friends or family like things that have
nothing to do with you, Like if you're looking on someone's phone for even
objective of like to see if they were talking to a specific person or whatever,
that's different. But I wouldn't like snoop through someone's phone or like search
my name or anything like that. Do you think having like like in new
relationships, having phone passwords and like locations, Well, that's our next one
location. I said, okay when we did this episode originally, and I
said, I don't care if somebody has my location because I don't lie about
where I'm going. And I also like don't care that much about privacy.
But I would say you can combine these two because it's both on the phone,
Like I wouldn't want my boyfriend to read my text with my friends because
the way that I talk to my friends is different than the way that I
would talk to them, And like, there's just things between your friends.
That's how girls are with each other. They that's how they talk. So
I personally don't care about that. But I think sharing location is like who
cares share it? Share your dawnload. It's not that big of a deal.
Just share it. And also I think sometimes it's a it's a safety
thing, Like I mean, I share my locate. I have all my
boys, all my buddies' location, I have my famili's my mom and my
dad, I have yours. I'd actually rarely check it, if ever,
if I'm curious where you are or if you don't respond, or you know,
hey, where is this person? But it's not like people can get
obsessed with having someone's location and then they can constantly check it to like you
know, it just kind of you can go down a rabbit hole with these
things. Same with having someone's phone password or you know, you have the
power to like see where they are and know what's going on. But I
wouldn't lie about where I'm going though, Like I don't care if my password
I am, I not my password, my location or my boyfriend or my
siblings. Like I just don't care because if they asked me where I am,
I would tell them. Like in high school, I remember, I'd
be like I don't want my parents to have my location. What if I
was at my someone else's house and I said I was at my friend's house
or like they were like concerned about where I was. But with my family,
that's because we all wanted to sneak out in high school to go and
do stupid stuff, right, But I get why they wanted it, But
I also get why people didn't want to share it because you were not doing
what you said you were. But now it's like, if I'm telling my
parents I'm home, that I'm home or else, I would just you know
what I mean, Like, they don't care what I'm doing. Same with
you, Like if I told you I was somewhere, I wouldn't lie about
where I was. So if you want to have my location, that's fine.
Actually, like one of my friends was like, can I have your
location? I feel I feel worried about you being alone who I'll tell you
after, But I'm like, yeah, sure you get on my location.
Interesting, okay, next one, hanging out with other girls slash guys alone,
I think it's okay if your friends, if it's you know, a
family friend or something, or you can trust the person, I think I
think it's fine. I mean if the guy, yeah, it just depends
on the situation, I think as well. But if you have the thing
is you don't have many guy friends, so I feel like it's kind of
hard. But because I didn't grow up here, right, but if you
had a really, you know, close guy friend who you were friends with
for a long time, and you guys would occasionally get lunch or chat on
the phone, as long as everything was appropriate, I wouldn't mind whatsoever.
And I think the same goes for girls. But you know that that's just
my thought on it. It depends totally on the person. It depends on
how they treat So, say, if it was you, like how that
person would treat me, and also how that person treats you, like what
I've witnessed, I think, because if it was someone who it was clearly
just a friendship, then I'd be like, yeah, for sure. But
you're saying if there's some sort of ulterior motive or just like if they were
not nice to me, then I wouldn't want you know what I mean,
Like, yeah, if there was like some weird dynamic between me and them
or you and them, then I would say no. But if it was
just a girl, like, yeah, I totally agree. If you grew
up in a place and you had friends in high school or you had friends
in university, like I have that more in Toronto because that's where I grew
up. But yeah, there's no problem with that, or like a family
friend that you've known forever, Like I've met one of your family friends in
the summer, and like, obviously if you were hanging out with her,
I would never have any concern, do you know what I mean? Yeah,
Like that is a perfect example, because yeah, you have obviously you
have to trust the person that you're in a relationship with. To hang out
with people that are the opposite gender, I I agree. I think if
it's a family friend, it's fine. If it's someone who's hitting on you,
right, if it ever gets weird, then no. But I feel
like you would be worried about guys because something my dad says all the time
is girls and guys can't be friends. Well, I think because of the
way the guys are. I think girls some girls and maybe I can't so
cut this out if it's too too much. I think girls are sometimes naive
with guys. I think a lot of guys have a specific motive with girls,
and I think that a lot of guys just want to get with girls,
and it's hard for guys to be friends with girls. I'll just put
it out there. I mean, that's what my dad says. It's like
kind of imple guy wants to be your friend. I'm like, yes he
does, but honestly he's kind of right, like the he's very right.
But friends, especially in LA he was like, those guys are not your
friends. And it's kind of true. And that's why I say nothing just
naive in this sense is that, for instance, I have a friend who
was in town for a while and she was on a dating app, and
was on that dating app or on that dating app, there was two options,
either one for dating and one for finding friends, and she believed that
every guy that would message her to hang out on the friend side of it
was in it to be friends. And then later she found out that they
all wanted to take her own dates. So but she said, well,
I want it for friends, so I just want to be friends. And
to me, that's what I mean when saying naive. But yeah, I
think that if you're a pretty girl and you're in Los Angeles, the chances
of a guy trying to be just your friend are very very low. But
that's why I'm saying family friends is fine because there's a history and it's deep
rooted and you know the parents, and it's that you know, if you
mess up in a you know, conversation or something, then it gets back
to the parents. Then it creates weird dynamic for the whole friend group.
But anyways, interesting, Yeah, I agree with that, but that's also
an LA thing. Like I had my friend Abby here. Well, I
guess it goes both ways because in Toronto, like girls and guys aren't really
close friends that would like hang out alone as much as here, Like she's
like, yeah, that would never happen for me, like in her relationship.
But then also I think the guys here are more I don't know what
the right word is. That's like not so negative, but they have a
very specific objective, Like guys are more like honest. In in Toronto,
they're like I don't know, I think, yeah, I mean, look,
I'm biased because I grew up here. I think the people who were
born and raised here actually are very honest. And the guys that I know
are normal, you know, my like my hometown boys, and they're very
like Alejandro men Aaron Yea, they're very honest, normal and wholesome people.
They're normal people, and their motives and objectives when it comes to females and
just the relationship they have tons of girlfriends, so it's not them. It's
like the people that move here that just want this fifteen minutes of fame,
Hollywood lifestyle. It's like an appearance thing. It's an appearance thing. But
look, this town is flooded with those kind of people. So that's why
when girls come here, or if you move here like yourself, and you
go to these events, you're gonna run into eighty percent of those guys,
if not more. Yeah, it depends the circles that you hang out in.
But for that or in that circle, for sure, you're right last,
but not least. We have having dating apps on your phone or like
actively using a dating app, like, would that be considered cheating in your
relationship or in a relationship in general? I don't think it's cheating. I
just think it's weird, like you're searching for other options. You don't think
it's cheating. It's not cheating. I mean, no, it's not technically
cheating. I think it's cheating unless you meet up with somebody. I don't
think it's cheating. And that's just me personally. But yeah, if you
have a if you have a dating app and you're constantly swiping you probably shouldn't
be with that person, right, If you're swiping on an app or you
have conversations with people, to me, that's cheating. I don't think it's
cheating. I think cheating is if you kiss or have sex with somebody,
or you know, I think go on a date with somebody else, that's
cheating. But what's the point of having a dating app and like swiping through
and having conversations with people. That's a good it's a great question. It's
too there's an objective, which is like if I was on Riah swiping,
people are like, let's hang out, let's meet up for drinks, let's
whatever. Maybe you're not getting what you need from the current relationship, so
you're reaching out to other people just to get a just to feed your your
ego. Maybe it's not to meet up. I don't know. I'm trying
to speak objectively. Here be the Devil's advocate. But I don't think it's
cheating. I think it's weird and you should probably have a serious conversation.
But cheating no interesting. I think I said it was cheating last time we
did this. I think Lauren agreed that it's just like not okay, in
a relationship to have dating apps. Sure it's not okay, But like I
said, I don't think I think the traditional definition of cheating, I don't
even know if you want to pull it up. Let's because I think any
unfaithfulness and to me, that is unfaithful because you're pursuing something with another person.
Right, Maybe you're like, you're right on that sense, maybe it
agrees with the definition, but I think that cheating, it doesn't. Really.
I think it's weird. I think it's strange. I think there's ulterior
motives, but I don't think it's cheating, Okay. Cheating, also known
as infidelity, is when a person in a monogamous romantic relationship has an emotional
or sexual relationship with someone else without their partner's consent. So, in a
traditional standpoint, I would be right, it depends what type of conversations you're
having, Like, if you have an emotional relationship with someone else, to
me, that's cheating. Yeah. But the thing is is when you say
it depends, let's take that out of the equation. Let's just go based
off of what this definition says. It's when a person in a monogamous relationship
has an emotional or sexual relationship with someone else without their partner's consent. What
I get from that is somebody meeting up with another woman or like, let's
just say it, I call it an affair. When you know, married
couples have affairs, they actively have other relationships with either a man or a
woman, and they're meeting up with them and having you know, intimate relationship.
So I think it's weird to go on a dating app and talk to
somebody and seek out other people. But like you said, maybe it depends
and there's something going on in that relationship where they haven't figured it out.
But we can agree to disagree on that, right, I just wouldn't be
with someone that was on a dating app. Like. Also, I think
it's weird because what if your friends were like, oh, by the way,
I was swiping on this app and I saw your boyfriend, Like,
that's one of the reasons. And then also just because I think you're right
if you're not or if you're swiping on an app looking for other people,
it's an indication that you're an unhappy like you're unhappy in what you have.
You ever had a dating at before? I have? Well, I guess
I've already said it Rya, But yeah, I was on Riya, but
it's like not real, Like I was never like, oh, I want
to hang out with these people. What was your purpose of being on the
app? Just to meet guys and just to maybe find somebody in this town?
Is that kind of Yeah? I moved to La. Like you can't
really use Ryan other places because there's not that many people on it. I
don't know if it's changed now, but I remember originally I was like,
Okay. In Toronto, obviously no one's on Riya really, but in La
it's more of a thing. So I would swipe on that occasionally, but
it was all just like boring, meaningless conversation that doesn't bother me whatsoever.
If you had that in the past, now, if you were on Ryan
now and you were you know, like like hypothetically, if you still had
it but you just like weren't using it, If your profile was still active
and you were receiving notifications but you weren't using it on your end, I
wouldn't care that much, but I'd say just delete it, I think at
this point totally. No. If it was on my phone, that's a
different story. But if you could see that I was messaging people to me
that's cheating or like, it's just you shouldn't be in a relationship then because
you want to be single, you want to be on ride of swiping.
Yes, I don't like I said, I don't think it's traditionally cheating,
but I think that it's pretty close to that direction, it's headed in that
direction. I agree. Yeah. Well, I'm glad we came to a
conclusion on that one, and that's it. So happy we came to a
conclusion that is it for our relationship rules and for aidens feedback on them.
Thanks for coming on the podcast, my bi annually debut. Yeah, it's
actually probably been a year since you came on. Oh, well annually.
Then there you go. I'll be back on next Christmas. Everybody, thank
you so much for listening to this week's episode, and we'll talk to you
next Friday. See you later, hye m h. Well, well, well