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Steve Raverera and Jacob Salis. They
have their Eye on the Ball on Tucson

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Sports Stage shaft, Fox Sports fourteen
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the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jake Manlist

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with breaking news. This Eye on
the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen

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fifty. All right, So to
start us off, the women's final game

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had eighteen point seven million viewers,
peaked at twenty four million, which was

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almost four million viewers more than the
men's final. I watched it. Did

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you watch it? Well? Were
we were in the room? Yeah,

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it was on at the arena.
Yeah, but we we actually went to

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a sports bar to watch the Friday
night game the Iowa. Yeah, I

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watched it somewhere. Can remember work
Kai game. I've never gone to a

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sports bar to watch it's basketball.
There was a lot of people watching it.

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Yeah, the place was jammed.
It was so it was so full

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of people that we're sitting there waiting
for glasses of water. And finally we

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asked the server to come over.
She says, well, we're so crowded,

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we don't have any clean glasses right
now, You guys gonna have to

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wait to walk. That's how many
people were at this. Yeah, more

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than any more viewers than any college
basketball game since twenty nineteen in terms of

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viewership. Yeah, that's crazy any
men or women. Here's the thing though,

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we were talking about this is whether
they can sustain it, sustain that.

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Yeah, yeah, last night I
think it was Nancy Lieberman who's talking

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about that. Well, we've come
a long way. People are watching,

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and I'm thinking it's the kid and
Clark. Ye, what happens when she

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leaves? Yeah, what's going to
happen? Right? Although basketball has changed

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for women because it's a change,
she was such a catalyst. Yeah,

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but you're amazing. People are watching, either pulling for her or not pulling

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from and that helps the viewership.
No questions, no question when you when

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you yeah, I was of them, one of them because you want to

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see her. Just see what she
does. I think she's gonna elevate to

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u w nbah she could totally.
And just what all of these girls and

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these women have done this year for
just women's sports in general, it's amazing,

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Like they've all been such catalysts for
people turning into women's sports, Like

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they're such amazing athletes. She did
it on the national level. Every just

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want to have a girl or woman
who did the same thing. Here,

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Harry McDonald's exactly. She created this
what we see today because she was one

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of those dynamic players who could just
do so many things. And you say,

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wow, yeah, well you know
and and I mean, and here's

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here's the difference. And again we've
said this before, is that you know,

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the women in the sport root for
each other, right whereas the men

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they're just bitter souls that just hate
and hate. And I'm saying that because

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of what Don Stately said after the
game about Caitlyn Clark and how much she

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has meant to the sport and how
much she appreciated. But Caitlin Clark did

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for the sport, and she's accurate
and she's one hundred percent. But to

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your point of the women doing that, I've read a number of things how

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the w n b A is saying, come on in, come on in.

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Well yeah, no, and it's
and it's not that it's not a

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positive thing, right, Well,
yeah, that's the players who are saying,

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how come I I didn't get mine? So we're gonna make sure that

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you know, you know what the
score is, and I get that,

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But when was the last time you
heard a coach say the things about a

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male coach say the things about a
male player that that Don Staley did.

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Now, look, Matt Painter said, I mean, Dan Hurley said some

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nice things about Zach Deedy, but
he didn't say, Zach Edy you changed

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the game, You're you know,
yeah, I mean there's like a level

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of you know, he didn't call
him the goat like that. Don Staley.

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Well, I'm just saying there's a
level of respect with the men,

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but they're not lifting each other up
right the woman. Also, when was

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the last time you saw outside of
d that guy Lebron didn't come to college.

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He didn't go to college. Michael
Jordan's so many years ago, Kobe

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was not a college guy. When
did you hear that guy that was just

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a the player of the year a
couple of years was Iowa? Where's he

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the big guy? The big guy
in Iowa? What's I don't even know

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his name. That's that's my point. You don't have one of these generational

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players like that outside of d where
you know what I'm saying, where you

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can say, God, that guy
was good and he changed the game?

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Who was it? Who's who's it
been? Yeah, you're right. I'm

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just thinking about like the first round
draft picks and previous years, like they

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were good, they didn't change the
game. Well, and people are even

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saying Zach Edie is pretty much done. Yeah, to make two time National

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Player of the Year and then he
might not even get it, you know,

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make it in the NBA. Yeah, Well the guy before him didn't.

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I mean, he's in the de
league I think, but whatever his

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name is, forgot his name already. Anyway, That's very cool. I'm

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very happy for the sport. You
know, we've gotten the taste of it

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here totally. It's become a big
deal, and it's it's remained a big

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deal. Right, They're still getting
seven thousand a game, you know,

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the women's games. So yeah,
it's it's cool. You hope it,

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you hope it lasts, but you
never know. Women's basketball for sure here

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is like part of the culture.
Yeah, it has become it has become

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that. Yeah, all right,
Well, speaking of Arizona, some Arizona

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baseball news. Arizona baseball is on
an eight win streak eight game win streak,

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right, now they beat Stanford four
and oh on this road trip and

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twelve to one in the last game. So they're now eighteen and thirteen.

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They've won five on the on the
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winning streak since twenty nineteen. Yeah. I mean, they got off to

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a terrible start in their in their
non conference and I know they're playing some

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good teams, but they you know, they're eighteen and thirteen. So when

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you think about the fact that they
won eight in a row, they were

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ten and thirteen. Yeah, so
they were not It was not going about

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I can do that, mass I
have. I have that club in my

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bag. I didn't even consider doing
the maths. But you know, they're

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tied for first place in the conference. Yeah, you know. And I

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think did Michael lev tweet out that
Jay Johnson was never ten and five in

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the league the whole time he was
here. He never had that good record

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after fifteen games. So there's that. I just won a national championship.

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But there's that. And Cam Walty
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the Week as he worked seven scoreless
innings, struck out eight players, and

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earned the win in Arizona's first shutout
of a PAC twelve opponent. Since did

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you you know we wanted I told
you we want to saw him play U

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C l A. They've got some
good players. Okay, they were impressive.

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They looked good fundamentally, they were
you know, they they did things.

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But their catcher. Have you heard
about their catcher who happens to be

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a homie Something Guzman, Xavier Guzman. Look his name up, Something Guzman.

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Nobody's stolen a base on him this
year. He's like ten for ten

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or he was going into like going
over the weekend. At some point he

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was ten for ten throwing guys out. Feel like a new Daniel Susac.

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Well, dany I know Daniel Sussac
never was ten for ten and throwing guys

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out. So, uh, he's
a he's a fire plug of a dude.

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He's a very husky, big solid
dude. And uh and he just

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he's just throwing guys out left and
right. Don't even try a Donna's Guzman

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so mm hmm. Build like a
big dude. Yeah, he is a

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big dude. And he looks like
he looks like if you're if you're coming

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home, don't try, don't try
and run him over. I know it's

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against the rules anyways, but just
just go the other direction, Just go

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the other director. They're good to
the diamond for the third time this season.

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Reagan Shockley is the packed twelve Freshman
of the Week for Arizona Softball and

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Arizona Softball is twenty four and twelve
and ranked twenty four. And she had

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a grand slam right in the Was
it her that hit the grand No,

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it was as Alice Skaggs had a
grand slam in the Utah game to win.

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Yeah, oh yeah, and then
Carrie's school scoop in Arizona to win

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to win the Utah Series with the
point four batting average, two home runs

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and five RBI. Yep, Karl, Who's who was Bobby Garcia our first,

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our first intern. He was,
She was his heart throb. He

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was in love with her, your
first ever intern. Yeah, first ever?

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Wait, that was before we screened
him, Yeah, before you were

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I've heard it. I brought him
over. I brought him over with me

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like a puppy from uh the from
the Sugar Skulls where he was in one

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of our internship He was good,
very good. All right. Well,

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that's all I have for breaking news. But Steve and I were just talking

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about this men's college basketball way too
early, top twenty five for next season.

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All sorts of news outlets have been
releasing their lists, and so this

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is Sports Illustrated. Duke is number
one on like most of them. Why

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if Cooper Flag Cooper flag, five
star recruit. They just lost the They

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just lost the guy two years sophomore
guy, five star guy. He just

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declared too. Mitchell is Mitchell Mark
Mitchell. He's leaving. Oh that's not

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good. That's no good. That's
not good for me. Okay, so

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he's yeah, he's good. But
I mean they're getting Cooper Flag and even

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still like they have returning talent that
I mean talent that they're going to stay.

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I feel like I do. They
stay a lot. They don't,

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well except for Mitchell except guy,
I don't know. I always State is

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number two on this. This is
a very strange one. This is a

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ahead. Yeah. Then Kansas,
then Gonzaga, Yeah, yukon five,

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Wildcats are six. Yeah. So
they range from six to twenty because on

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the other list on USA Today Sports, I talked to Torres yesterday. I

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think he was gonna put him at
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it's gonna be Well. The thing
is, it's April ninth. We don't

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know what the rosters are gonna look
like. I know, I know anybody.

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I've been updated since exactly No,
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all last night and the I'm thinking, okay, you have how many things

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can happen a month? First?
So I have one? I have what

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are you done? Yeah? So
I have one and this is gonna surprise

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you. Uh. There's a report
out of Japan. It looks like that

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Reggie Geary is interested in going back
to coach Al Reggie Yeah, which you

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know, he was very good as
a coach and he they made his mark

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out there. And even the climate
that Ubey who kind of makes sense Yeah

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yeah, well yeah, a little
concern maybe if he you know, things

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are going over there, why not? So have you ever had that?

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of like, yeah, from different
in terms of I know, but in

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terms of what kind of what the
city looks like, this this big tall

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city with all these buildings, very
cool. Yeah, so he was yeah,

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so he looked like he wants to
relaunch his pro coaching career. So

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we'll see what happens. I'm looking
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is, and that's my main priority. Wow, okay, right, all

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right, right, well good luck, yeah, good luck, good luck.

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You know, the time difference is
going to make it hard for him

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to be on our show. We
have to finally, replacement is like sixteen

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hours? Is that what it is? No, it's it's less than that.

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Really, when I the times I
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okay, so it's maybe fourteen or
yeah. So one of one of my

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guys, one of listeners, Luca
Garza, Iowa remember him? Oh that

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was him? Yeah, yeah,
he says, I guess he's with Minnesota.

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He could be on a roster and
maybe with the D League unless I

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heard he was in the D League. But Luca Garsa, I think he's

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one of our guys too. One
of your homeies is Garza, Yeah,

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is a Hispanic name. Whether he's
like legitimately homie. Right, well,

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there's one in the wood. Some
are back there right right. Thank you

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the person who sent me this note, appreciate it and thanks for listening.

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Yeah, we do appreciate you listening
always always. Yeah, well we got

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two minutes. Let's talk about the
cattle party thing real quick, okay,

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not surprise, no, no,
it was a bad marriage. Eventually it

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had come to an end, come
to an ed both sides, and both

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were sleeping in separate bedroom the whole
bit. Both sides were saying, you

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gotta go, Okay, I will, you don't go? Yeah, and

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no thirty three the million dollar payout
right, he'll make his tons of money

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here. I just don't know.
Jay. Well, he was his system

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wasn't working. He's got well,
I was just gonna go to that spot

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right there. But guess what,
it's a system that we have now he's

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got well, no, this is
but no, he was a different system.

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He was still doing the one and
done system. It's not working,

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no, no, no, but
it's now one and done now almost with

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everybody. Oh why yeah, but
he was going out to get trying to

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do this with freshman yeah yeah,
no, no, no, no,

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everybody's got to have guys like Yukon
had guys who've been around the block two

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or three times. Sure, sure, and and can and and we'll go

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in and and be willing enough to
make it all fit together instead of saying

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I gotta get mine. Well,
guess what his his His system's not gonna

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I don't think he's not gonna change
the system. I think he's gonna continue.

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He's seventy. I think he's seventy
sixty something. He has to,

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but I don't know if he will
because why are players going to play for

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him anyway? Because they're gonna be
one and done and they want to go

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to the league. Here's the question, Jay DeAndre Ayton, who was one

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and done? Right? He went
and done? Did he get better here?

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Did did he by coming? By
coming here? Did he become an

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NBA? No? He was the
same guy there at the years he was

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he was gonna go no matter.
Why didn't Sean Sean hadn't haend nothing to

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do with it. Steve at the
when they were in when they were in

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the Bahamas, he talked to some
kids and told him he was going to

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the NBA at the end of the
year. To my point, these one

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and don's go there with the intentions
of staying for nine months, collects some

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mail, another, collected money,
but they don't get better at the school.

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Now they're already NBA players the time
or any did any of those guys

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Josh Green's ich Nagy uh uh Mannion, Nico mannon the other guys that the

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guys that were on the on the
team with with with Aighton were all the

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same guys when they left. Sure, no, no question, everyone,

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no question. They didn't get here
and get better. They just they were

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one and done. So yeah exactly. And the same thing at Kentucky.

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They're just rent the room and didn't
get out in nine months. Hell out

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of town, Yeah exactly. There's
not that colored party made it better.

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Yeah, all right, we're out
here for this segment that we're going to

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come back. We've got Matt Mordeno. We'll get his take on some of

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the you know, what's going on
there recruiting wise and the portal and stuff,

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some of his thoughts on these UFA
guys who are leaving. So stick

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guy, Matt Mordeno from Goasycats dot
com. How you doing that? Doing

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great, Steve, Thanks for having
back guys. Sure, hey, I'm

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sure all the comings and goings don't
surprise you in the least, not at

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all. I mean, I think
it's our yearly tradition now right. Three,

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If you get attached to any player, probably shouldn't do that. And

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why is to kind of keep an
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rosters are changing and you know,
maybe your favorite player is not going to

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be part of your team the next
season. So all pretty typical. I'm

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probably only going to continue to get
even more hectic as these weeks go on

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and these days go on and kind
of Norman in college sports these days.

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So how difficult or or or how
easy is it to find out stuff about?

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You know, where are guys going, who's recruiting, who, who

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needs who? Those kinds of things? Is it is information? I mean,

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I think some guys like to put
stuff out there. Other guys like

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to keep it to themselves. I
mean, uh, how do you how

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do we you know, keep kind
of how do we track all this stuff?

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Yeah, by and large, it's
on the transfer portal side. It's

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much different than the recruiting side.
Recruiting side with high school prospects, junior

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college prospects, it's a lot more
readily available, people willing to talk about

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it, more kind of coming from
the teams themselves. The transfer portal stuff

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is very quiet. A lot of
what you're hearing is very filtered and is

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being put out sometimes in deliberate ways
and for deliberate reasons. And then some

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things you just never hear about,
and then that player is now transferring you

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know, and it's one of those
things that the transfer portal aspect of it

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all is very much under wraps,
and it's kind of always been that way

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since the portal was first kind of
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existence. There just isn't a lot
out there viable information about what teams they're

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looking for, what they're doing,
who's visiting where. It's very very quiet,

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and teams are doing that on purpose
because it's it's a quick process for

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one, but they don't want other
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then they can go, you know, in this same age, make an

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offer to a player, let's say, and then you know, pull that

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player away from a from a different
situation. So you have to kind of

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take everything with the grain of salt. What you hear is not the entire

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story in a lot of cases,
and there's a lot going on behind the

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scenes that a lot of people don't
know about it and not are not in

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tune with. Even at my level, even in the reporter level, it's

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a lot is kept under wraps by
teams in the transit portal situation. It

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seems to me it's like the swap
meet. You're going to the swap meet,

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You're going to use cars. You
know, I'll pick that car and

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you know how many miles does it
have on it? Did it go through

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some crashes? I'll do that.
So, Matt, because I'm in the

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percentages. How much of it is
legitimate transferred to go play to play somewhere,

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or is it because of the money. It all depends. I mean,

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it's it's very it varies between player
and situation all that, But I

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think you'd be hard pressed to ignore
the fact that the money is part of

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it. I'd say maybe sixty percent
if you want a percentage just not accurate,

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that's not you know, there's no
numbers to back that up necessarily.

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But yeah, I mean that's what
it feels like, is that, you

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know, probably forty percent of the
guys are looking for a better situation,

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a better opportunity. You probably hear
about those guys a lot more. Yeah,

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you know, Ivy League guys looking
for an opportunity to play at a

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high major program, or some guys
that were, you know a little bit

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further down on the depth chart at
some schools trying to get into a more

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prominent position, and maybe some younger
players who didn't they didn't get to play

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as much as they thought they were
and so they're looking to, you know,

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step on the floor somewhere else.
And so you know, those guys

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probably make up forty percent and then
the other sixty percent are players who are

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looking for an opportunity to make some
money and capitalize on a really strong season.

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And so you've seen a lot of
those guys come up over the last

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month or so. During the NT
double A tournament, you know, Alabama

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had one of those guys as a
top transfer that you know, had options

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to play anywhere in the country,
and so you started to see that quite

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a bit as well. But it
is kind of like the saught me even

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that, you know, sometimes you
see that thing early early in the day,

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it's swap me. They're like,
I'm gonna keep my eye on that.

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I don't necessarily love the price.
I'm not in love with that object

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or whatever you're trying to buy,
but I might come back and circle back

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around to it. And you see
that a lot of times as well,

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where maybe a team misses on somebody
and you know, circles back and says,

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you know what, now we do
have you know, this type of

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money to off and you're you are
a priority for us now and so very

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interesting and I do like that analogy
just swaught me. A lot's been made

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about how how Daniel Hurley built this
team from I'm not gonna say scraps because

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that implies, you know, pieces
that weren't won and elsewhere. Yeah,

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he went, he went out and
got guys and rebuilt a team that you

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know, had lost a bunch to
the uh, well to various things.

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How much how much of of what
coaches are doing now in terms of pulling

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their teams back together is luck?
How much of it is skill? How

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much do you think? I mean, obviously the ones who do their homework

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the best are the ones that are
going to you know, succeed. But

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still you've got to be pretty lucky
to get go out and get five new

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guys and have them all to come
together well enough to go win and after

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championship. Well, absolutely, that's
I mean you have to look at as

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being part of the equation. I
think evaluations are super super important for these

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teams that are winning, and right
now it's one team you know that's winning

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the last couple of years. Evaluations
are vital to this whole process, and

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you have to you have to be
right on those and it's difficult because in

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a lot of instances you're not able
to kind of do your due diligence like

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you would in a normal kind of
recruiting era, where you can have a

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year or two to really watch a
player or a prospect you know, develop

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and you get to know him in
a lot of different ways. A lot

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of these transfer situations and recruitments are
playing out in a matter of days at

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times, and so you just don't
have a ton of time to learn every

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aspect about these players, about their
background, about what they you know,

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what kind of makes them tick,
and is what's going to make them eventually

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will help you win a title.
And so there is luck involved. I

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think you know that you can't overlook
that, and but I think you back

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that up and you have to build
up the other aspects, which are the

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evaluation and the development part of it, and the team cohesion and chemistry part

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of it. Those are things you
obviously can look at and try and do

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your best at. But I think
if you can kind of build those things

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up as much as you can and
learn about those players as much as you

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can before you get them on the
floor together. That luck kind of takes

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care of itself. But you can't
overlook that part of it. And sometimes

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it is just, you know,
everything kind of comes together in the right

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way. And you've seen now with
you kind of the last couple of years.

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So we know what Arizona is losing
with the guys declaring, but they

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have some very strong player is coming
in. I think there are a number

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were they what do they rank with
you guys? And one specifically the one

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that just committed but hasn't signed,
who might declare early, you know,

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might come here early. He's a
player. Yeah. I mean they have

407
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:15.759
a very good recruiting class. I
don't think people are talking enough about it.

408
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.119
I think when people are looking at
Arizona next season, they are not

409
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.680
discussing the recruiting class that they're bringing
in enough. I don't think in times

410
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.880
have change, and obviously kind of
me and this industry have seen it change.

411
00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:29.200
There was a lot more emphasis on
high school recruiting when I first started

412
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.200
this, and a lot more wanting
to a lot more people wanting to know

413
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.079
about every single move that is being
made on the high school recruiting, and

414
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:37.279
that's become a little bit more of
an afterthought now because of the transfers and

415
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:41.440
because of the immediate help you can
get. And I understand that, but

416
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:45.480
I don't think you can overlook this
recruiting class. You have to give them

417
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.440
their respect because there's a lot of
talent. You know, Carter Brian is

418
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:52.079
a McDonald's All American somebody who I
think has kind of played into a different

419
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:56.319
role over over his high school career
and you know, how to play more

420
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:57.480
of a big man role just because
of his size. But he's going to

421
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.640
settle in as a small forward lay
on the wing and I think that suits

422
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.400
his game a lot more. And
I think he's going to only continue to

423
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.160
get better once he gets to Arizona. You know, Josnson on the New

424
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.440
the new recruit that you're mentioning is
likely in your classes. Well, we've

425
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:15.559
already moved into the twenty twenty four
rankings. It feels like a foreground conclusion

426
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:18.119
that he'll be ending up as a
player that comes in this year. And

427
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.240
you know, I've only had a
chance to see him on a couple occasions.

428
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:25.720
And one thing that you know about
that you can you can tell you

429
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.039
about him is that he's a score. He's going to be able to fill

430
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.200
it up at kind of all three
levels and is able to you know,

431
00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:33.799
really score at a high level.
And I think that's something that is only

432
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.279
going to add to this group.
I really like kind of what they've done.

433
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.759
Emmanuel Steven, the big man that
they got, uh kind of went

434
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:42.599
under the radar. He wasn't the
highest he's not the highest rated prospect in

435
00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:47.400
his class, but it sounds like
there's a lot of excitement internally from Arizona

436
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.039
about what he's going to bring to
the table and you know, his his

437
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:52.960
ceiling as a player, you know
in the front court, which is going

438
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.599
to be needed now based on you
know what Arizona's lost so farthest offseason,

439
00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:02.079
and I think that's where you're gonna
continue to see them really kind of target

440
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.319
some players and really trying to figure
out what they're going to do in the

441
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:08.400
front court because they have some room
there now after this week and so we'll

442
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.279
see how that all plays out.
But yeah, the recruit class is really

443
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:14.720
really good and I think you can't
overlook, you know, any of those

444
00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:18.720
players that are incoming as a freshmen, But do we know enough right about

445
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.240
what Arizona is going to have next
year? For some of these polls that

446
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.359
are coming out, one that we
were just talking about that has Arizona eighth

447
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:29.640
next year, we don't even know
what they're going to look like. You

448
00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:32.000
don't know who anybody's gonna look like. And so yeah, I mean I

449
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:36.519
understand, I understand driving, you
know, you know, the web traffic,

450
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.759
the website traffic, and trying to
get people to have eyes on your

451
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.000
work, and I understand that as
much as anybody. But yeah, I

452
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.599
mean, I think it's just it's
so early to determine what teams are going

453
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.799
to look like. That's something you
have to revisit in June and maybe even

454
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.920
July when teams start to really kind
of understand who they're going to have and

455
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.799
get players on campus and and all
that. But yeah, I mean,

456
00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:00.039
there's going to be so much that
changes again in the coming days, in

457
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.720
the coming weeks with teams. There's
going to be players that you're like,

458
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:06.519
oh, I didn't even realize that
they were looking at potentially leaving or going,

459
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:08.160
you know, into the portal when
war ball could be one of those

460
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.000
examples. I don't know how many
people thought that, you know, the

461
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:12.599
transfer portal is going to be the
path that he ended up taking, and

462
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:17.079
so, you know, I think
there's gonna be a lot of players like

463
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.039
that, and he's coming days and
weeks as everything to kind of settle in

464
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.640
and the season is now efficiently over
and everyone can kind of look ahead to

465
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.880
steer. I think you're gonna see
a lot of teams that are that are

466
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.599
trying to figure out what they want
to do. And so it's really difficult

467
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.480
right now at this point, you
know, in April or whatever we are

468
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:34.680
now to you know, say that, yes, this is what the team's

469
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:37.880
gonna look like, because it's just
they're all going to look very different.

470
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.400
And so I do think Arizona has
a lot of nice building blocks, but

471
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.359
there's so much still to be determined
for this team. And we still don't

472
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:48.759
know what Tommy's gonna find in the
Alps for the Balkan Mountains, because he

473
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.680
pulls off stuff that we don't even
know about. Yeah, absolutely, I

474
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.160
mean there's always the international aspect of
it all, and you know, some

475
00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.039
of those players have not arrived on
campus until August, and so until a

476
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:03.160
right before school starts, so again
a lot to be determined, you know,

477
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.079
and you can't really make any true
judgments about Arizona or any other team

478
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:08.759
right now at this point in time. Yeah, so we saw you in

479
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.680
They we saw you in l A
A quick trip, right. They should

480
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:17.319
have beaten Clebson. They didn't.
Not a shock I think for both of

481
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:22.319
us and how Clemson played. Let
me ask you a loaded question three years

482
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:27.759
removed three years here of Tommy Lloyd
is uh, how do you like him

483
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:33.119
as a coach? I thought I
thought just in review of the game and

484
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:38.960
watching him coach that he he he
didn't he didn't bench coach very well that

485
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.480
game. I think if there's one
thing that you can point at and be

486
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.200
critical of is that, and it's
it's one of those things, the fine

487
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.480
line. It's really difficult to do. But one of the reasons that it's

488
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:53.279
such an attractive place, I think
for players and transfers and everybody is that

489
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:57.799
he allows his guys to freedom.
And you know a lot of players just

490
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.000
talk about that. Sean Miller,
I know, you know, Steve and

491
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:04.759
I and Jay maybe too, but
you know you hear that out showing me

492
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.119
like I don't know that you're watching
the same kind of kind of angle,

493
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.480
same game that that I'm watching.
I know that they get a lot of

494
00:32:09.480 --> 00:32:13.680
freedom, but with Tommy what there's
a lot of freedom within this team and

495
00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:15.240
with what they're allowed to do,
and he let them, you know,

496
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.720
kind of shoot their way out of
that game and it just didn't work out

497
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:21.759
right. You know, a lot
of coaches would have put the clamps on

498
00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:23.039
and said, like, you need
to go to the basket in that game,

499
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:27.680
because as everyone saw, that's what
was working. And so I think

500
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.640
sometimes that works against him a little
bit because you can't you can't both can't

501
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.839
be both guys. It's difficult to
do that. He can't be the guy

502
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:35.759
who says, hey, yeah,
we're gonna play with a lot of freedom,

503
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.640
and a lot of guys have played
with a lot of freedom and kind

504
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:39.680
of shoot themselves out of situations,
you know, during the regular season,

505
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.559
then once in punch time go oh
no, now I'm somebody else. Well

506
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.799
it's so I think I was just
gonna say that's his go to, solid

507
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:51.559
move right, go play yourself out
of it. It's like he doesn't have

508
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:55.240
another go to. It's it's like
Jay Bean and us being parents being by

509
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.200
eleven o'clock and if you're not in
by eleven o'clock, you're going to be

510
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.519
disciplined. And then to come in
at twelve and we don't discipline them,

511
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:07.680
and that's kind of an extreme example. But he had no go to change.

512
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:10.240
I mean, you know what I'm
saying, it's play it yourself out

513
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:15.000
of it, go fast, and
that didn't work. No, And I

514
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.200
think that's again I think if there's
one thing that you can look at,

515
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.640
it could be you know, maybe
hypercritical level with him and how he approaches,

516
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:22.519
and it is that. But it
is difficult to be you know,

517
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:28.200
kind of two guys in one situation
there because you're selling players and other recruits

518
00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:30.000
and other players are watching you.
And that's a big selling point for this

519
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.319
program right now, is that they
have freedom and their coach isn't going to

520
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.680
be you know, on their throat
for every single thing that they do.

521
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.640
And so when your kind of program
is built around that idea, it's difficult

522
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.680
to then flip that. But it
definitely has not helped them, I think

523
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.519
in moments on the court. I
think that's happened a couple of times now

524
00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:50.680
that these last few years and there
have been moments, you know where that's

525
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:52.119
worked, and that mess it has
worked, and then they've been able to

526
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.680
shoot themselves out of games and players
haven't gone you know, down in the

527
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:59.200
dumps because they had a bad game, because they're able to kind of,

528
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:01.920
you know, teenis shooting eventually get
their way out of it. But man,

529
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:06.200
it would have been they needed kind
of someone stirring there at that moment

530
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:07.480
to just be like, hey,
you need to go do this thing or

531
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:09.639
if not, I'm going to pull
you from the game. And it just

532
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:13.800
wasn't there. And so I think
that was the biggest thing that I saw,

533
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:15.800
the biggest takeaway I had in that
game. But we'll see kind of

534
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.599
what adjustments he makes and if there
is kind of a divergence from that normal

535
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:22.360
kind of path that he goes,
you know, if it comes down to

536
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:29.280
that again next year. Yeah,
it's just you know, we we Steve

537
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.760
and I were talking about, you
know, the fans and how they they're

538
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:35.760
just still having trouble getting used to
this whole idea about how things change,

539
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.119
you know, from season to season
and and that kind of stuff. I

540
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.880
just feel like, I don't know, I mean, how are we going

541
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.159
to get through these things without going
on social media and seeing these people losing

542
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:50.920
their minds over you know, the
roster rebuilding, the transfers and stuff.

543
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.400
There's a guy who sees it more
than us, and that's this guy,

544
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:58.519
because people in recruiting go crazy too. Yeah, I mean, it's it's

545
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:00.760
it's the normal. I mean,
it's why have a job, to be

546
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:04.239
honest. I mean, people want
to know what's going on with all these

547
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:06.480
things, and then you have to
kind of try and you know, we

548
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.440
through it all and try and make
sense of kind of everything that's going on.

549
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:13.400
There's multiple layers to kind of every
single recruitment, every single situation,

550
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:17.480
and you know, sometimes there's misdirection
being involved, and so there's a lot

551
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:22.639
to take in. And so I
think the advice I would have for fans

552
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.639
is just to kind of enjoy the
ride as it goes along, because you

553
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:29.679
just know that things are going to
change every year, at least for the

554
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.480
foreseeable future. For now, it's
not going to be any different, and

555
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:37.199
every year there's going to be a
lot of roster turnover everywhere. Every program

556
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:38.519
is going to change. Your favorite
player, like I said, could be

557
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:42.519
playing somewhere else next year, could
be playing for your arrival next year.

558
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:45.719
And so it's one of those things
where you just kind of have to get

559
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:49.159
used to it. You have to, you know, just kind of appreciate

560
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.239
things as they go and just understand
that the college game is changing in so

561
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.599
many ways. Yeah, well,
Matt, thanks a bunch. We appreciate

562
00:35:55.639 --> 00:36:00.199
your time. Yeah, absolutely,
anytime. Guys, thank you. You

563
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.119
don't you know, another guy said
this and we know this basketball is changing

564
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.760
and blah blah. Right, it's
no different in football, no different football,

565
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.920
except that we're in the in the
instant gratification here with Arizona lost a

566
00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:15.559
guy to a s U. Yeah, no, I know, Steven,

567
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:21.519
it's but what what I guess what
what gets me is that, you know,

568
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.760
just figure it out, you know, figure out that this is how,

569
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:29.639
this is how we're gonna at The
people complained about the Yeah, they

570
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.559
need something to complain about it,
they will. Yeah. No, I

571
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:35.639
mean, Jay, don't tell me
how to think they're gonna say. Let

572
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.079
me let me think on my own, let me vent my all my want

573
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:43.199
because it's frustrated. Let me say, I said, Anthony a note today,

574
00:36:43.519 --> 00:36:47.559
I'm making this public. This my
job sucks and it's not my job.

575
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.920
It's not my because I love my
job. It's just me. It's

576
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.360
just why your job has become Yeah, reading this stuff and I don't even

577
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:57.320
know why I do it because I
don't have to. But we're talking about

578
00:36:57.320 --> 00:36:59.119
it. I know we're and we're
sitting here, we're talking about it.

579
00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.079
We have a show because yeah,
right, right right, you know the

580
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.360
people out there one here, Okay, you hear what those butt heads said

581
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:08.519
on the radio, and then they
go on and they blast us on you

582
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:14.000
know, on on social media whatever
Facebook or our Twitter and whatever it is.

583
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:17.840
What do they say, all publicity
is publicity? Yes, not always,

584
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.039
man, not always. Just love
us, call us, call us,

585
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.119
and here's your chance that call us. We're gonna go to break yeap,

586
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.639
and then we'll have some maybe people
call it a call five to zero

587
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:30.079
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This is I on the Ball with
Steve Rivera and Jacobzalez on Fox Sports fourteen

632
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fifteen. Hey, welcome back to
you on the ball here on Fox Sports

633
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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's
Jay and at least with us today we

634
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.559
have thirteen minutes. You guys,
want to call. Here's a call right

635
00:40:50.599 --> 00:40:53.559
now? Well look at that.
Hi, you're on the air and I

636
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:58.519
on the ball. Yeah, I
had this question and want to make a

637
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:01.800
few points. Sure, what's your
right? Right? What what do you

638
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:06.840
got on your mind? Right?
So, so I wanted to coment on

639
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:12.960
on the Clinton game, okay,
and how Tommy Lloyd. Uh, it

640
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.039
doesn't make him a bad but he
definitely should have made the decision to go

641
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:21.920
inside. I mean, I think
we'll make it too complex and I want

642
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:23.920
to learn from that mistake because it
definitely was a mistake. But that does

643
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:28.679
not make him a bad coach.
And then I wanted to ask a question

644
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:37.039
about Bolling. Uh what's the guy's
name? Uh? Conswerring? Is there

645
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.159
a that they're just testing the water
to steal what's out there? And you

646
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.239
so you if they can match what
he's getting and they returns because it's a

647
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:51.079
different environment that we're working and they're
they're looking for money, Well, you

648
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.000
know what a good question. I
wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.

649
00:41:54.079 --> 00:42:00.360
But according to well, if you
read a red Ballow's statement, is he's

650
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:06.480
gone? It was kind of almost
definitely in fact, hasn't said anything Yeah,

651
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.159
so we'll see with that. But
that's a possibility. And that's a

652
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:14.440
good question. They've done that before. Yep. Would Ballow see it was

653
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:19.480
obvious that he needs another year,
He definitely no matter where it is,

654
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:23.079
okay, And with that relationship with
Tommy Lloyd, I just I mean,

655
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.599
he could have did it here or
he could do it elsewhere. It's gonna

656
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.400
benefit them by the way. Sure, well, the thing is to me

657
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:34.119
and this is just my impression that
it's it was a mutual decision. Crevous

658
00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:37.639
crevas is moving up. Uh.
Henry is a very good player, so

659
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:42.320
he has people to replace Ballow and
maybe he just said, you know,

660
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.400
okay, you can you can go
and spread your rings somewhere else. And

661
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.119
that's the thing. That's the thing
that we don't know is what was the

662
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:53.199
conversation. Sure, you know,
it sounds like based on these two you

663
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:58.199
know guys, well five guys now
that have entered the transfer portal, that

664
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.199
Thommy's kind of letting guys know,
this is your role next year. Now

665
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:05.159
if you want, if you can
accept that role, you know, by

666
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:08.000
all means stay, But if you
want something else, then you know,

667
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.440
maybe it's a good time for you
to go find an opportunity somewhere else.

668
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:16.039
And that's that's how I've envision what's
going on right now in the program,

669
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:20.760
and probably every coach does that.
I don't know what coach that's going to

670
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.159
beg anybody to stay. Well,
it's like the it's like, well,

671
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.599
I don't think you can say with
this ray, so will you asked the

672
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:30.159
question did you want them to stay? Oh? I would love to stay

673
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:37.039
because you cannot replace what those other
teams are been fitting from that experience.

674
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:39.840
And those of the teams have three
four year player some five. Yeah,

675
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:44.360
and if you want to with chemanship, you have to somehow get to that

676
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.079
point. And also, I don't
know if I agree with Creevius being able

677
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:52.719
to he will not be able to
duplicate what ballowed followed. Babo could have

678
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:58.039
averaged a good fourteen fifteen points a
game, but he couldn't shoot free throws.

679
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:01.639
I mean he would have easily,
yeah, but previous will not be

680
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:06.079
able to duplicate that. In my
opinion, he will not be able to

681
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:08.239
duplicate that productivity. And he is
not that hard. No, No,

682
00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:12.400
I agree with you, but I
think that Tommy has a system or or

683
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.960
has a has it you know,
the guy next up could be Henry could

684
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.639
be the new guy coming in.
Let me also ask you. You said

685
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.679
that Bobo needs another year. He
could have three or four years. He's

686
00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:24.800
just not going to play in the
league. Well, you know, whether

687
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:30.000
he plays international or he plays NBA. I think it could be a good

688
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:36.320
role player. He just needs to
extend that push shot or to develop some

689
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.920
sort of a shot away from the
baskets and he will play definitely play international,

690
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:44.679
but he could be a solid role
player in the NBA. Man,

691
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.440
I think he could. Well.
I think that Coloco's better. In my

692
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:52.039
opinion, Coloco is better. And
Coloco just even despite his illness or whatever

693
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:55.519
he has, it is not in
the league, if that makes any sense.

694
00:44:55.800 --> 00:45:00.320
Apples to apples, and there's so
many, so many guess okay,

695
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:05.840
I think, yeah, okay,
Well, Ray, thanks for calling the

696
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:08.000
first time you've called good stuff.
Right. I appreciate the call. Thanks,

697
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:12.440
Ques, appreciate it. No,
I mean there's there's a million different

698
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:16.039
ways to to look at it and
look at this, to analyze it or

699
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:21.199
whatever. You know. Why is
Balo leaving? Is it because he knows

700
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:25.559
that his opportunity isn't as what he
wants it to be. As Tommy Lloyd

701
00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:29.079
said, Umar, you know,
we've done as much as we can with

702
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:34.480
you. We're moving on to did
Tommy say, Look, we have X

703
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:39.920
amount of money to offer this position
and we think you know, Crevis has

704
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.559
a you know, the future is
our future. We're going with him.

705
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:45.440
You know, it's a good this
is a good time for you to go,

706
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:49.719
you know, go find your opportunity. So many things and we don't

707
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.239
get to be in the room when
those things. Sure, you're right,

708
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:54.440
so many things could be the option. Yeah, we'll see. And Boswell,

709
00:45:54.599 --> 00:46:00.559
who knows. I just think and
this is the honest truth, that

710
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:06.239
that they that they're they're finding their
place somewhere else's best for them. If

711
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.000
I'm Boswell, I don't want to
hang around for the same reason Kirk Criesa

712
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:12.840
didn't hang around. You know,
he's in that he's in this position and

713
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:21.360
it's a thankless position because unless you
unless you you yourself. Colin Boswell lead

714
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:25.599
this team into the final four wearing
crap down your neck. Yeah right,

715
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:31.480
right right. They did it to
Kirk Crisa. They and you know,

716
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.360
look, Kirk Cesa, brit A
lot of that stuff on himself, just

717
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.320
like personality. But Colin Boswell didn't
do that, no, no, but

718
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:49.519
he let's say, hemmed yeah,
and then he kind of fed himself into

719
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.679
it. But Boswell did some things
at the end that we saw, you

720
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.679
know, visually, what are you
doing? What are you doing? You

721
00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:00.360
don't go out late that night before
a game and blah blah blah, and

722
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.119
that was on him. He shot
himself in the foot. Yeah no,

723
00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:07.519
I I I hear you, even
on the floor, like during the game.

724
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:14.679
Her just had such a bigger sure
present well even for Kyle his president

725
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:20.320
was kyl of his presidence was missing
shots, even even easy shots. You

726
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.360
could see that, oh he doesn't
have it today. And you knew right

727
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.679
away that he didn't have it today. But I'm talking about like not even

728
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:30.239
during the play. Like Her just
had the biggest personality you know. Yeah

729
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.519
he did try and like lead the
team almost. Yeah. He wasn't that

730
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:37.960
guy. He wasn't that guy when
you're really good, you can but he

731
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:40.199
wasn't dead guy. And the and
then the thing was that sometimes he showed

732
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:45.320
like he was yeah then when he
wasn't always that guy. Yeah people do

733
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:52.199
yeah, yeah, there you got
another call this high are on the air

734
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:58.079
and eye on the ball. Hey
guys, he says the shrank and uh,

735
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:02.679
I'm done with basketball. What is
the first football games? I can

736
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:07.679
tell you? Yeah? Yeah,
you know me. See what are you

737
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.760
gonna do until then? Yeah,
Frank, I don't know. I'll probably

738
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:17.760
gripe about the basketball season like everybody
else getting in Yeah, well here's the

739
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:22.360
thing that uh maybe this is obviously
to other people, but you know,

740
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:27.000
I'm not as smart as other people. So here we go. So I

741
00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:31.280
was really disappointed, obviously with everybody
else when they lost to Princeton last year.

742
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:39.000
So I didn't watch hardly any games
except maybe Duke or something in November

743
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:45.199
and December until the Pac twelve started
because I try to stay away from that

744
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.320
because I mean it's crazy. I
mean the first games, you know,

745
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.079
like at first games, Jay Billison, he says, oh, this is

746
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:57.159
the final four team, this is
Final fourteen, and you know it's so

747
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:01.159
crazy to start saying that, and
then the and then the rankings come out

748
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:05.840
and Arizona's number one pretty quickly in
the year or so, I try to

749
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:08.599
say it, but you know,
sooner or later, you know, I'm

750
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:13.400
kind of drawing in it looks like
a team is jelly. They win the

751
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:20.559
conference and then things fall apart.
But so I was thinking back to the

752
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:25.159
football season. It was a good
season. I ended up great, but

753
00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:30.320
I was very satisfied. We beat
as U and we won the Alimi Bole.

754
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:36.079
But in basketball it seems like if
you don't make it to the final

755
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:42.280
four, the season's a failure,
very much. So. Yeah, So

756
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:47.079
I think if Arizona had made it
into the final four this year, which

757
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:52.599
I thought they would, you know, I would have been I would have

758
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.199
been happy, not totally satisfied,
because I think you're only satisfied when you

759
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.159
win the whole thing. Of course, we saw that one time. Man,

760
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:02.559
we want it back again. Yeah. You know. The one thing

761
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:06.159
that I heard day, and I
don't know because people know I cover the

762
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.000
team and have for a long time, it says, how could they blow

763
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:12.280
it again? They had the perfect
path? How could they blow it again?

764
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.960
They had the perfect path? There's
no such thing. Well, they'll

765
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.199
talk about the perfect thing, you
know, but there's no such thing.

766
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:22.039
Anybody along the line can beat you
well, and Arizona's perfect path through La

767
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:27.000
is never a perfect path for that
too. So Frank, thanks for calling

768
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.480
uh one other thing. Uh yeah, so uh, I'm afraid that if

769
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:36.840
Ballo stayed another year. I mean, I really like the guy and I

770
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.119
think he's been good, but I'm
afraid that, you know, the the

771
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:43.159
ships are down, he's going to
miss those street throws. I mean,

772
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:46.360
he's had plenty of time to learn
how to shoot tree throws. So I'm

773
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:51.639
afraid if he stayed that would be
faced for the same thing. You guys,

774
00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:53.719
totally agree with you, Totally agree
with you, Thank you, thank

775
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:58.320
you, Frank. All Right,
here, here's the thing with ball J

776
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:04.000
and and at least he's probably been
one of the more popular players in the

777
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:09.400
last fifteen years. TJ McCollough.
The other guy was being the other guy.

778
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:13.599
I think that's why some people are
surprised, because they showed him a

779
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.480
lot of love right and back.
Yeah, you know, very affable,

780
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:22.760
very friendly, very friendly always.
Yeah. Yeah. Outside of that,

781
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:31.239
well thanks for thanks, thanks for
coming drive home safely. But again,

782
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:37.679
look, these guys are now basically
professional, right, so they need to

783
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:40.480
they need to understand that piece of
it too, that a coach has to

784
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:45.559
win and the coach is going to
go is going to create the environment and

785
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:50.239
get the players that he thinks can
help them win. And if he doesn't

786
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:54.119
think that you get give him what's
needed, then he's going to ask you

787
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:59.039
to go find another place to play. Now, he may help you and

788
00:51:59.239 --> 00:52:02.159
do everything he can and to you
know, to recommend you to somebody and

789
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:07.199
whatnot. But when a coach is
making decisions saying, Okay, I got

790
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:10.320
to pay somebody X hundreds of thousands
of dollars, well I'm gonna give that

791
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:15.239
X hundreds of thousands of dollars to
somebody who's gonna help me get to the

792
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.159
final four. And if you're not
that guy anymore, then you're not that

793
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.320
guy anymore. Well, we talked
about this, I think it was Frank

794
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.480
Bush or whatever. We've talked about
it since that if you're gonna unionize it

795
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:25.880
and you're gonna be employee, you're
gonna you're getting paid to work, and

796
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:29.599
you're gonna have to deal with the
things that come with that, right,

797
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:31.719
and one of the things that comes
with that is perform. You might not

798
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:36.000
have a job because you did perform. Well yeah, yeah, yeah,

799
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:38.800
welcome to the real world. Yeah, Now it's now it's a little different

800
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:43.920
than let's say our world, where
you know there are some there are some

801
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.239
places you go that you have to
be you have to kill somebody before they'll

802
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:50.760
fire you. Yeah, this is
not that. But on the other hand,

803
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:53.880
you know, a coach gets fired
if he doesn't produce, and he's

804
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:57.679
only going to produce if he's got
the right people. Correct, he or

805
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:00.480
she's got the right people in place. And if you're not the right person

806
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.400
who your coach thinks is going to
get you there, then your s os.

807
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:07.119
It's a fine dance. Now you're
you're recruiting. You're gonna help me

808
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:10.440
win the title. A year later, you're not going to help me win

809
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:15.679
a title. Okay, Hey,
good show, Thank you, good stuff.

810
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:20.119
Welcome back, Steve. Yeah,
we should let people know Thursday and

811
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.800
Friday Dame is running off again,
so there probably will not be a show

812
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:27.599
Thursday and Friday. Haven't made that
decision yet, but it's looking like we

813
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:30.840
may just be off again for two
more days and then then we'll get in

814
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:36.280
here and make this happen. You
need a vacation. I'm so tired.

815
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.440
Your vacation was working all right,
Thanks for being here. We'll be back tomorrow.

