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How you doing out there? It's
me Tiger, I am Duck Wing Duck.

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It's me Bunkers deep Bobcat All right, Yon, didn't bree your favorite

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firefly you desire? Hold no old, no God. My name is Jim

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Cummings, and welcome to tuned In. Welcome to tuned In with Jim Cummings

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here on the fourthing of this GAT
network, Iy and Brendan Dano, joined

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right now by producer Chris. Hello, everybody, how's it going. We're

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joined by the man who's been marrying
Peg since nineteen ninety two. It is

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mister chim Comings. How are you
so? Hello? The very good life

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is good, and so is Peg
and Peg and Peg. Now, of

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course we are here today to do
a bit of a deep dive on goof

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Troop, one of my night No, it actually is my favorite Disney Afternoon

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Shove all the time. But before
we get into goof Troop and all that

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fun stuff, Thanksgiving coming up.
So Happy Thanksgiving to all of our listeners

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out there. What are you two
gentlemen doing for Thanksgiving this year? Well,

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thank you for asking. We're going
to find an innocent bird and show

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it a horrible demise and then to
make us swell me a lot of it

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the way Pete would be proud.
No, we're gonna we're gonna have some

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fun. Am just gonna go play
some craps and stuff at Vegas? Isn't

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what you're gonna do? I don't. I don't know. Well, it

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depends on how bad that bird is. That it's a bad joke. But

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yeah, but I'll be trying to
make my world famous dressing. So that's

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world famous dressing. So, Chris, is it actually worthy of the name

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world famous dressing? Or absolutely?
It's the perfect moisture, it's the perfect

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texture, it's it's fabulous. So
dressing for the meat or for the for

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the bird in the bird, out
of the bird. Yeah, okay,

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wow, so we have to hear
about this now. Don't tell us the

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secrets the secret recipe, but like
what goes into it? What? What's

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what's so special about it? Well, my secret ingredient is bread, that's

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all. Okay? Maybe someone maybe
some o young, some a little bit

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of a little bit maybe you know
optional or yeah and uh, and then

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you drive drive it around New Orleans
a couple of times and it comes out

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really well, who taught you the
recipe a lot Mama Cummings or oh yeah,

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yeah, my mom did. Yeah, and then I just sort of

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refined it. And every now and
then you're throwing some mushrooms or something and

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you know, a little whatever the
local flavor is. It's a beautiful thing,

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all right, Chris. And you
you're also not gonna be home for

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Thanksgiving? Eye? Was it next
week? You're getting away? Well,

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I'm yeah, I'm bypassing Thanksgiving this
year because I'm leaving to Japan on Monday.

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So I didn't want to have back
to back travel dates. So I'm

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just taking it easy. I'm probably
gonna go see some friends and uh yeah,

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take it easy. Yeah. Have
have a little turkey, little ham

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you know some uh some mac and
cheese. Is turkey? That the one

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thing you have to eat on Thanksgiving? And you go with it. You

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have to you have to have to
do. You guys have Thanksgiving down Andrew?

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No, we do not know.
We we have nothing to give thanks

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for. So is there anything similar? Uh no, we don't at all.

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No. Well, you have first
of July, so we have that's

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Australia Day for us. We have
nothing Thanksgiving. I feel like now though,

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we'll definitely. Now, the Black
Friday sales are a big thing.

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It's just they've just they've taken the
Black Friday sales. But we don't actually

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have Thanksgiving, but we have Black
Friday sales and they've already started. They

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start them like last week. Over
Lord's Amazon have put that on us.

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Yes, it really has. Yeah, but I think we're just very grateful

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just living Australia in general. But
we're just just happy all the time.

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Everyone has their own beach exactly right, we went back yet, what about

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Anzac Day and day? That's sort
of like a day of remembrance. Yeah,

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I guess you give thanks on that
because you remember those who fought.

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Yeah, but it's it's more of
a day of remembering the soldiers more and

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giving thanks. But it's not a
similar kind of thing to giving thanks,

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like yeah, Thanksgiving. But you
know an excuse day turkey there right?

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Oh yeah, yeah, Well it
was when the Pilgrims and the Native Americans

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got together and you know, realized
they could get along peaceably, and they

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traded recipes and next thing you know, there was this big old bodacious meal

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there and so they gave thanks And
is it just me or does I swear

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Christmas gets advertised earlier and earlier every
year. Okay, spoiler alert, the

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kids put up the Christmas tree last
weekend at our house. When I was

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growing up, it was like right
after Thanksgiving, the weekend after Thanksgiving.

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Yeah, then when you put up
the Christmas tree. Now it's the weekend

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after Halloween. Yeahs soon as as
soon as the candies out of the way,

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it's just straight into Christmas presents and
Christmas decorations. Yeah. Yeah,

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I'm not crazy about it. I
mean, I'm all for chused. I

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love Christmas. Know about you guys, You guys love Christmas. Oh,

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I love it. It's my favorite. Yeah, there's no doubt about best.

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And speaking of I'm Christmas for our
lovely supporters on Patreon here on the

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Tuni Patreon channel speak, we're gonna
we're throwing up a poll of various Disney

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Afternoons Christmas specials, and we're going
to be doing a special exclusively for Patreon

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on whatever the patrons decide might be
a Winni the Pooh christ Is Special,

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or a goof Troope Christmas Special,
or Chip and Dale, whatever they select

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in their poll, we'll be doing
a special bonus, a little recap review

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commentary of that episode as well,
which is only available on the tuned In

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Patreon channel, so you can support
the show and get access to a bunch

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of exclusive Jim Cummings goodness on there. Yeah. But of course today,

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of course, today we are here
to talk about goof Troop. I'm very

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excited for this. This is the
one of when I sort of even pitched

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this podcast. I'm like, I'm
going to do this podcast just so I

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can talk about goof Troop because I
just love goof Trip that much. I

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think you're the same, Chris Stright. I think it's a different feeling we're

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talking about these shows regret with.
It's just that it brings out the best

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in this It's just so great to
look back and remember it. This was

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definitely my favorite. Absolutely. Yeah. Do you think it's the theme song?

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Because the themes like, honestly,
listeners, you you ain't we of

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this, But Chris and I both
was setting up. We're just both gone

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bottle. We just kept singing it. Yeah. It's so fun to sing

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the theme song, isn't it.
Yes, sure it is. It's bubbling,

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it's poppin. I want to hear
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We need to make that happen,
okay, Yeah, or notes or

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maybe a song that I actually did
sing. Yes, Okay, you didn't

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sing that one. Okay, you
pick it. Mayby songs that I did

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say you picked he didn't sing.
There's one we've already heard you singing those.

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You're living in the past, gym, you're living in the past.

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Yeah, it's nice back here.
We just did a commentary exclusive Patreon of

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the pilot of goof Troop Everything's coming
out goofy and we touched on a few

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of these things that we're going to
touch on again in this podcast. But

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basically I was just saying on that
that you know, goof Trip reminds me

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of Saturday mornings here in Australia,
because here in Australia we didn't get the

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afternoon shows. We got them on
a Saturday morning on a show called Saturday

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Disney. Whenever I think of Saturday
Disney, immediately think of the goof Trip

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theme and just sitting there with a
bowl of cereal, dad out the front

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mowing the lawn, just Saturday morning
in Australia. What kind of cereal was

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it like a cereal, we would
know here was it? Well, if

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it was if it was a Saturday, I would have been having probably fruit

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loops or maybe cocoa pops. Oh
so you were a health nut. Yes,

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yes, yes, speaking of speaking
of cereal and the nineties, do

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you remember when there used to be
toys in cereal? Remember when there was

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toys in packets of chips as well? Yeah, clips, We did not

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have that, really well, we
had these things, so you had to

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remember that at least, so you
had pops. We had these things called

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tazos, right, and they used
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of chips, so you have to
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We had like Simpsons tasos and Looney
Tunes tasos and things like that,

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Space Jam tasos, and they were
a thing. And of course then the

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PC police came out and went,
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know, unhealthy habits to children by
putting things in potato chips. So they

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stopped it and ruined the fun of
ruined childhood for the future generation. Yeah.

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I don't remember chips, but I
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We had Power Rangers, Pokemon,
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was. Yeah, Well, whenever
I'll do conventions, I will always I

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always, always, always signed three
or four, half dozen or at least

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a half dozen, you know,
of a different words. Now this one,

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I got this on a Race Crispy. This was in a Race Crispy

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box, you know, and I
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got to bonkers. But I finally
got bonkers and I said, oh that's

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great, you know, and I
signed them and they were in there were

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little chips of Cereal line. It's
a beautiful thing. Some of the most

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expensive collectibles now, the ones where, for example, he had to buy

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like five boxes of the Cereal cut
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he can't get those things anymore,
of course, because he can't send away

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from now. But if you have
some of these collector was where you just

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had to send away for them,
they're worth a mint now. Oh,

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I know, because I was talking
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like some Simpsons thing that you had
to send away for, like the little

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three eyed fish from the Simpsons,
and you had to like buy all these

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boxes of cereal whatever, cut out
the coupon, send them away, and

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now that it's worth like over a
thousand dollars, just this little toy because

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you just can't get them anymore.
Dang. And that was actually funny on

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the on the Deep Dive episode we
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we were watching on Patreon, it
was funny how PJ literally all the toys

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in his room, you know,
he wouldn't touch because his dad said,

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you Jim, his dad said they
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taken out of the packages. And
that was thirty years ago. That was

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thirty years ago. And I just
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so well today, even better today, I'd say, yeah, one hundred

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percent. Feel like people were talking
to people, weren't talking about it as

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much back then. Like when you
had toys, you play with them,

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you know, when we were going. Now it's like now you buy three,

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you buy one to display, one
to play with, one pulled away

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in storage and catch it, guys
up and you you know, I won't

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be doing it to the camera now. But I've got my original Johnny Rebel

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Canyon. That's something else you wouldn't
be able to say, uh, cannon

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sorry, uh. And it had
shot real little balls. It was a

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little you know, sort of like
an old geral cartoon cannon from and it

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but it was based on the Civil
War cannons. Oh yeah, and uh

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and it shoots balls. And I've
got the ramrod and it works. So

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it's fifty six years old. No, no, about sixty sixty years old

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and it works. So there.
They don't build them like they used to.

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And wait, did they hold the
Union Army Army Johnny ReBs. No,

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that was the Southern. That was
the Southern. Yeah, the Union

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Jack. The Union guys were the
Union Jacks. I think I have no

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idea what these toys are. But
what so what were they that was just

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promoting just civil war? Yeah?
Yeah, well you can't beat a good

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go to Civil war kids. Yeah, they have Civil War re enactments,

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and I've never understood that they're a
lot of fun though, I'm sure it'd

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be fun to watch. Yeah,
have you ever been to one? Huh?

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that. Yeah, me too,
you think I would have. I felt

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like GYP just seems like the kind
of guy that would be in there just

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in and amongst it. Yeah,
yeah, might like I'd be General Custer.

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He did not. He did not
farewell in his last battle. It's

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funny because I do a South Park
podcast and we just reviewed the episode where

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they take the mickey out of Civil
War reenactments. So it's just it's just

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weird how just sort of just tied
in. No, of course, but

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we're here to talk about goove Troup. Now, as I say, one

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of my favorite shows, Jim,
when you think a good trip, I'll

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have to sort of start this way. What are your first initial memories of

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good troop? When someone says good
trip to you, what are you think

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of? Oh boy, a license
to just go crazy and have a lot

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of lot of great fun. You
know, Genny McSwain was a director,

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and Bob Taylor uh was one of
the producers, and among others you know

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at Wexler and different people, Mark
Zaslov and we had so much fun because

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you know, it was first of
all, was putting Goofy, a character

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everybody knew, into a completely different
setting. I mean, when you thought

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of Goofy, you did not think
father figure. That's for sure, and

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Pete you kind of did, you
know, because he you know, he

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had enough bluster to you know,
to get throw his weight around and everything,

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and it was, you know,
it was just a great little blend

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because you put the two together.
And no, I don't know what happened

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to missus Goofy or if there was
one, but but you know, Pete

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was there and he had his family
next door, and it was a lot

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of fun, you know, because
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matter what, and so whenever,
you know, we needed something to happen,

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just put the two of them together. And I just realized we're counting

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and I was in. Pete was
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kind of cool, and me Stadd
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out to you that you're and all
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of his own show. Yeah,
yeah, I don't know. It's probably

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his evil twin was in it,
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revolves around Pete, though more like
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I don't know if that's it,
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right, And they say, you
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made off the villain, you know, the better of the villain. I

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mean, how many that was Darth
Vader costumes? Do you see? You

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don't see? You know that many
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the villains that are cooler in general, aren't they? Absolutely? Oh yeah,

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and you've played quite a bit,
Jim, I've played many a villain.

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Well, Pete's the original Disney villain
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just talking. We're talking on the
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on the commentary, not too sure. But Pete, I believe, if

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you read any of the reports online, is actually the longest recurring Disney character

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of all time, which is a
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got the role of obviously this was
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this show? Right, Yeah?
Voice Pete before this? That's right?

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you sort of dawned on you,
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the thing is it was kind of
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he was kind of doing on one
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like the cartoon before the movie or
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back in with the Three musket Mouseketeers
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that. And you know that that
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it, the chemistry between Pete and
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or Mickey Mouse or Goofy, you
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the friction and uh and it was
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uh maybe a Halloween special perhaps prior
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he was the same. He hadn't
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while, that's right. Yeah,
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a couple of like specials or Christmas
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nothing on that goof Troop. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. In fact,

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the one Christmas special we did do
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Pete was dark brown. He was
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even black then, and he was
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to hose down Goofy to buy this
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to rent it and buy it.
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yeah, and it's coming up on
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show and let us know what you
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idea just how much work you were
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Pete, right, because Pete hadn't
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really over the last thirty years.
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video game or computer game series,
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rather prominently in that he's like his
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villain if you will. You know, Maleficent from Sleeping Beauty is the evil

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queen and he is her fierce minion. So Pete's been around, yeah,

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and I don't know the year.
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the twenties, right when he first
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yeah, had to be. Yeah, he's coming. I think he's

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like three years off of being what's
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When you're public domain? Would he
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that how it works? Even if
Disney know, because Disney didn't have to

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buy him, he was Disney's Yeah, you know, it's like Mickey Mouse,

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like Pooh and Tigger. They they
were acquired, you know, nobody

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from Disney from a Miln. Yeah, so how was the So how's Winny

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of the Pooh public domain and Pete
won't be? Then? Well, they

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bought it for X amount of like
one hundred years I think, wasn't it

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maybe, But Winnie the po the
original series is now public domain. Yeah,

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it's because it wasn't created by Disney. Okay, So with the character,

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because he's not just a villain in
like Kingdom Hearts. He's a villain

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in like The Mickey and the Roads
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and oh yeah it was. It
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So there's all these different versions of
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it's a pretty diverse character, really, isn't he Absolutely? Well, you

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know in the Mickey the Roads to
Racers, when they would go racing all

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around the world, you know,
there would be a Natalian the Pete,

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Mick the mouse, how are you
doing? You know? And then and

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it was and then they'd go to
France and there'd be a Frenchman, Well,

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mickuer I cansider that to your error
trying to win this rash, you

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know, and it was still just
Pete being in Pete and uh and I'm

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gonna run out of accents here.
Wait. That's fascinating to me. So

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what's the what's the what's the approach
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a character voice in accent? Well, I don't know. Now I'll never

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be able to do it again,
thanks Chris. He has to do the

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hand, he's doing the hand.
Well, the first thing you do should

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start talking like Pete. And the
next thing you know, you're over there

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in Ireland and you're in Dublin and
you're walking down the street. And I

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think that's how you do it.
That's incredible to me, that's incredible.

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Well I need to hear I need
to hear an Australian pate. Can you

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do an Australian pate? Well,
now hold on their pal all just half

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to sigh, give me a strike, give you It kind of comes out

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he turns into Monterey Jack. I
think Gidget, you know, Pizza a

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little more gott incredible watching just Jim
sort of doing the voice and you just

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see just completely just transform into a
different accents. It's amazing to watch.

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It's not a pretty sight. So
let's go back. So you'd already done

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several shows already for Disney Afternoons.
I mean, you don't need to poo

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as well. And you've done Tailspin
Duck Wing Duck, had already been at

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this point Chippendale. So when did
your first year of goof Troop Boy?

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When when somebody wrote it? I
think Bob Taylor, I think we should

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blame him. The show promily had
ninety two. How long before it was

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on TV? Do you think was
it like an eighteen month to be a

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year? Oh? Yeah, always
at least a year from yeah, if

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not more, you know, I
would say fifteen months would be a better

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bet, like recording first day to
sitting on the couch. Yeah, it's

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got to be over a year,
like fifteen months safe, bet. I'm

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always intrigued. So basically, you're
working on all these Disney afternoon shows and

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do they just sort of come up
to you and go, We've got another

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idea or is it a case of
if you just have to waite to your

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agent pitch or something to you.
Well, they send out the sides,

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they send out the plots, the
character breakdowns to every agency you know,

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and then that agent goes all right, oh, you might be good at

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this, you might be good at
that, you might get that, and

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they just pass it around and then
they cast the show. They writers that

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start writing, and they all get
to know each other. It's like we

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were saying earlier, the pilot episode
quote unquote is probably the tenth or twelfth

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one that we recorded, because they
had to kind of get to know the

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writers, got to know the characters, as the actors as their characters,

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and they can kind of weave it
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cohesive. Well, I have a
question for you. I mean, we've

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kind of been doing these episodes,
you know, of the Deep Dives,

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kind of in chronological order, you
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and more recent by this point.
This is one of the newer episodes,

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I mean, newer series excuse me, that you were involved in by this

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time. You know, we talked
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They're kind of reusing the same voice
actors over and over when a new series

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comes out. Did you have a
good idea that like, Okay, I'm

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gonna be in this one, or
I'm gonna have a big shot to get

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this one. Well, you know, I don't think that they It didn't

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quite work like that. I mean
I had to do the same auditions as

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everybody else did, of course,
you know, but everybody they already knew

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how should I put it? I
know that I was cast for this role

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or that role, or this role
or that role because on this show there

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are gonna be two male men and
a race car driver, and so we're

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gonna we got Cummings to take at
least half of that out of our you

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know, and so you're hired for
this character. But since these this character

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floats in floats out there, there
were characters that would do that in like

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even in Bonkers, Frank Welker was
fall Apart Rabbit, Well he was in

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every third episode, but it was
in every episode anyway, because it was

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playing another character. And it's like
with me and Chimpindale's Rescue Rangers and fat

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Cat and Professor Nimno so and you
know obviously Monterey Jack with me and Peter

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Cullen and so I think they I
mean, it wasn't. Although Jim Megon,

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my buddy, he made a joke
one time when I was visiting Disney

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TV Animation and we're walking down and
we're like halfway through how many how many

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were shows on Disney Animated ten eight
or all together like Dark, Wing,

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Tailspin individual titles. Anyway, we're
like halfway through, and he jokingly said,

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oh, by the way, everybody, everybody look over here, this

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is my friend, Jim Cummings.
He's going to be in every show.

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Did we ever do just every series, every every episode of every series?

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Uh, Jimp Cummings, what else. I think that's it. Anyway,

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get back to work and everybody's clapped
and we all high fived and it was

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just silly and then we all they
went back to work apparently, and so

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today because Chris is right, because
you were saying you you all auditioned for

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the same roles all the time.
But yeah, they picked the same people

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all the time. So surely,
like Chris, you have to agree.

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Surely they had the same people in
mind when they were writing these characters.

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Right. Well, I think it's
like we talked about on the last the

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last deep dive that we did on
the Rescue Rangers deep dive. From an

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investment standpoint from Disney, you know, like they're investing what did we say,

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there was like twenty three million dollars
invested in Rescue Rangers or something like

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that. And from an investment standpoint, and if you know, show business

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is just as much as much business
as it is show oh yeah, So

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from an investor's side, I mean, you know, why not go with

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the with the talent that we know
that can deliver. Yeah, And I

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think that's one of the reasons why
they keep recycling the same voices over and

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over because it's a safe bet.
Yeah, you want to head your bet,

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that's for sure, because you know
the money you're wasting or not wasting

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is the same. If it's a
sure thing or if it's a flop,

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still cost They still cost the same. Yeah, you're right, though,

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Chris, this was one of the
last ones, and Bunkers was the one

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after this. I'm pretty sure there
went many after Bunkers? Was Jim?

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Was there a reason that they just
sort of just ended the Disney Afternoons sort

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of concept because they seem to be
going so well. It was all Disney

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was backing, They're putting so much
money behind it, and then there was

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just sort of like none for a
while. Yeah. Well, I know

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that the fact that they bought ABC
figured into it, because here in Los

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Angeles it was on an independent station. It's a Channel KT. I forget

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what it is, but it's a
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ABC or HBO, It's not you
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So I think that might have had
something to do with it. You know,

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they bought ABC and they can't even
and they have to feed some other

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network. You know that they don't
yeah, the grillions from I mean,

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you know, there's only two reasons
things happen, love and money, and

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it wasn't love. This might have
been money. I think it's interesting too

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that just that we're on the subject
of, like business talks is you know,

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we're talking about, you know,
cinematic universes these days, and how

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Disney has acquired you know, Marvel
and the Star Wars franchise and everything like

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that, and in a way,
you know, Pete the character was kind

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of in his own cinematic universe,
crossing over between all these different cartoon shows

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even to this day, you know, and not just tave A Shaw's movies,

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video games, everything, absolutely,
absolutely, And you just got to

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imagine if if the cinematic universe was
a thing back in nearly nineties, all

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these shows would have been crossing over
all the time. Feels like a waste

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of opportunity when you look back now
thirty years later, but it would have

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been nice and cool to have seen
all these characters sort of living in the

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same universe. Yeah. I got
a kick out of that big, long

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one hundred year celebration show. Yeah, it was hard to Actually, that

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makes me think of another question for
you, Jim is when you voice the

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same character for different series, do
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Troupe Times, Pete was the Wisenheimer, a bit of a bully, and

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definitely he was in the shorts,
you know, big Wisenheimer and definitely a

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bully. And when we started in
on Mickey Gosh, Mickey Mouse at Funhouse

407
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.799
Mickey and we did like four Mickey
in the Roads to Racers, Mickey's Funhouse,

408
00:27:53.640 --> 00:28:00.480
Mickey's you know, popsicle stand,
Yeah, kit shows and you had

409
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.680
to dial them back. In fact, I remember, I don't know if

410
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.880
I spoke on this before, but
I just come out there not say what

411
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.599
are you doing during your crazy Mouse
get over here? And they'd go,

412
00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:15.680
okay, this is for four year
olds, say hey, what you're doing

413
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.200
over there? Mickey? You know, and and so calm him down.

414
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.519
You know, he's not he wasn't
the bully. The guy that threw it,

415
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.319
kicked it Mickey off of a speeding
train. You know, we can't

416
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:33.960
do that in this cartoon. So
you know, all these different considerations and

417
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.359
you know, and they're tailing it
to the audience which understandable. It's funny

418
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.119
how times change, though, because
goof Trip was for the same audience,

419
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:45.000
but you didn't have the dollar back
for that. Pete. Yeah, well

420
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.480
that was also thirty years ago.
Kids get scared. Now he's yelling at

421
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:56.279
me. He's yelling, he being
so mean. But so you had so

422
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.599
you land the role of Pate.
Did you audition? Obviously Bill already had

423
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:00.920
the role of Goofy that was already
set in stone. Did you audition for

424
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.119
me? It wasn't really anyone to
really audition four on this show, was

425
00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:06.759
there when he comes to the mains
the main cast? It was just Pete

426
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:11.160
or nothing for you? Really?
Yeah? Correct. I had my heart

427
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:17.680
set on being Peg but it didn't
work. No, I mean I had

428
00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:21.519
dabbled around with Pete and you know, he was kind of in my wheelhouse.

429
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.640
And did you know much about it, Pete before auditioning for the role.

430
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.920
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean
everybody did you know? I would

431
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:34.119
watch the not the Disney Afternoon but
all the Disney Uh the world is aka

432
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:38.559
Roussel Love Color from when I was
five, you know, and Davy Crockett

433
00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:42.119
was on and Johnny Tremaine and I
never missed one of them, because then

434
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:48.279
they'd always have a lot of times
they would have they have a Mickey Mouse

435
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:52.559
short and Pete would come in there
and be the guest goober or you know,

436
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.480
Pete and Goofy would be in something
and and so I had a handle

437
00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:00.559
on him. You know, I
was aware of him. I knew who

438
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.400
he was. But like I said, he was always a tough guy.

439
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.440
It was always mean. You know, I'm the kind of gentler Pete.

440
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.640
I'm solad I. You've said in
the past that when you're doing a voice

441
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:17.039
like that that's already been voiced in
the past, you try to not copy

442
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.039
but be as close to the visional
as possible. But with this Pete though,

443
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.039
this was a different version of Pete
that we hadn't seen before. So

444
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.240
did you feel like there was more
freedom to sort of give it your own

445
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:30.759
spin? Yeah, yeah, for
sure, thank you, because at really

446
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:36.359
Pete was one trick pony prior to
this, like in the forties, fifties,

447
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:41.279
name it, he was the guy, look you bell you, I'm

448
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:47.200
gonna clubb or you see, and
that's it. That's pretty much. Yet

449
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:52.160
Pete was showing up. Mickey was
either going to take a licking or you

450
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.200
know, stop him cold, or
you know, Goofy was in trouble.

451
00:30:55.599 --> 00:31:00.400
You know, Donald forget about it, and so you knew that something was

452
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.839
up. But when when we moved
it over to a series, he can't

453
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:08.279
walk around with a baseball bat trying
to knock off Mickey's head or Goofy's head,

454
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.799
you know, for twenty two minutes
per show. So they had to

455
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:18.119
turn him into a family man.
And now he's a big giant cat with

456
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.880
a cute little dog and cat of
his own, don't ask, uh and

457
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:27.160
go figure, and he's a you
know, he's got a cute little daughter

458
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:36.200
and annoying little kid and a scalding
hot wife talking about you. Well,

459
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:41.160
Pete, Pete and me. Yes, the answer to that is yes.

460
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.319
Wait, just to kind of go
off the rails here. As a kid,

461
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.440
I was very attracted to Peg and
I'm sure there was other kids out

462
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.960
there that had the same thing.
It was kind of like a jeser k

463
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.359
rabbit deal. Have you heard that
in the in people coming up to you?

464
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:04.400
No? But I well I could
see it. Oh yeah, I

465
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.200
can definitely see it. And uh, you know, for that matter,

466
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:14.559
he and Bonkers, they both had
really cute girlfriends and uh and Nancy.

467
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:20.759
Wow. Nancy Cartwright was my daughter
at with April Winchell and she was Fon

468
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:25.400
Deer for Bunker's Deep Abcat and she
played Fon Deer, the the cute little

469
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:29.480
starlet, and she was It was
as cute as can be. You were

470
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.440
somewhat of a ladies man when he
came to the Disney afternoon shows, weren't

471
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:43.319
you? Apparently so? Yeah,
dark Wing duc absolutely morgana Ma Coobber played

472
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:52.160
an animated show. Yeah, I
think so. Yeah, I know not

473
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.039
many. Was that was that unique? When it came to the chemistry with

474
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:00.359
well, no, it was unique. We just well we had to because

475
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:06.000
she was pregnant. We had to, you know. No, she was

476
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:13.799
pregnant with Nancy kraut Raight. No, oh god, that's reminded me of

477
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.039
a terrible dirty joke that I can't
tell what it had to well, because

478
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:22.240
it's it's a dirty joke. And
then the psychiatrist said to Mickey, no,

479
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:27.559
I didn't say that. I said
she's goofy. Just my tyson voice

480
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:37.920
will be all fine, Yeah,
never mind. No, Mike can get

481
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.640
away with a lot, but I'm
not him that the joke might ruin a

482
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.000
lot of childhood somebobe. We should
leave it, Yes, yes, starting

483
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.880
on mine. How we get paid? She's hot, that's right, Yeah,

484
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:53.160
there you go. But but but
like with SO with April, So

485
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:57.200
you had a great chemistry there with
April, with with pe here, do

486
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.759
you think because of the chemistry here
that just evolved and is the racing sort

487
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:04.079
of ended up married again on Bunkers. I thought it was because we were

488
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:09.480
both so irresistibly talented that we're the
only people for the job. But but

489
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:13.119
it could have been could have been
the fact that it's like, well they

490
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.000
already knew each other. Okay,
you know that's fine with me either way.

491
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:20.840
I'm fine, and you know,
the checks have cleared at this point,

492
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:25.599
so very happy. Just while we're
on the topic of just marriage.

493
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:31.800
And one thing that fascinates me about
about goof Troop is the fact that it

494
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:37.000
was pitched and end up became a
becoming a show about a single father.

495
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:43.679
You know, that's not really a
popular trope at the time in the early

496
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.760
nineties for an animated or live action
was Doc Wing? Dock he was he

497
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.679
was a single father? Was he
not? Dock Wing? That's true?

498
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.719
That's true. Yeah, oh that's
true. I'm good at that. But

499
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:59.280
he was a duck. As I
was saying in the commentary, because of

500
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.440
the setting, felt more realistic,
didn't it, even though there was still

501
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:05.079
these you know, dogs and cats
and whatnot, and there's all these crazies

502
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.199
happening in suburbia. Well yeah,
I was a suburban right, Yeah,

503
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:13.400
it felt more real what Chris was
saying, Yeah, the single father set

504
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:16.320
up. What was your reaction to
that when you first read it? Who

505
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:21.440
me? Heck, I thought it
was I thought it was cool because I

506
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:27.039
got to work with April, you
know, she was great, And I

507
00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:34.920
thought it was an interesting take because
it helped de purely villainize Pete. You

508
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.320
know, if he's a family man
and he's got this little four year old

509
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:43.079
girl running around and his young ten
year old son, and and you know,

510
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:47.559
and his wife was a calming influence
to the extent that when she wasn't

511
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:52.480
yelling at him, and uh so
I thought I thought it kind of softened

512
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.599
him, made him a little more
readily accessible to everybody, to Pete,

513
00:35:55.639 --> 00:36:00.519
because prior to that, he would
just come in and knock over the coffee

514
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:04.880
table, and you know, chase
Mickey or Donald or a Goofy all around

515
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:08.920
the room with the sword or a
frying pan or do whatever try to throw

516
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:13.440
him off the cliff. But this
time he had to come up and show

517
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.519
up and have some opinions, and
he had to get up and go to

518
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:22.039
work or something that people don't usually
do in cartoons. That's true. Yeah,

519
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.199
So it was kind of cool.
You're right though, because we just

520
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:29.960
watched that pilot and it's very wacky
and cartoon you all the shenanigans that Pete's

521
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.199
getting out to try and stop Goofy. If he was just this single gray

522
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:37.400
living next door, just this grumpy
old man, be very unlikable. But

523
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:39.320
having him married with a daughter,
it just makes him far more grounded,

524
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:44.079
doesn't It makes it, yes,
feel less super villainy and more just like

525
00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:47.719
a grumpy man. Yeah right,
And I think that's what they needed from

526
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:52.679
him in this show too. You
know, they didn't need, you know,

527
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:57.000
a guy coming in on a spaceship
or a you know, a fighter

528
00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:01.519
pilot coming in to zap everybody.
It just needed a sufficient thorn in the

529
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:07.360
side. And you know, as
we've seen, the funny part of it

530
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:14.000
is is he's there to give friction
in a sense to Goofy, and he

531
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.440
kind of gets his butt kicked on
a regular basis. He's not good at

532
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.280
it. He's you know, Goofy
kind of gets the edge on him.

533
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.760
I think it's very important that Peg
wears the pants in the relationship as well,

534
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:29.840
because as grumpy and as loud as
he is and as angry as he

535
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:31.079
is, at the end of the
day, Peg still runs the house and

536
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:35.440
she's not intimidated by him. She
just tells him what's what and he goes,

537
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:37.559
yes, ma'am, yeah, yeah, Well she's smarter than him and

538
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.239
he knows it, and he's smart
enough to know it. Yes, So

539
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.280
I can relate. When I was
watching goof Troop, I was getting similar

540
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:47.800
vibes to did you guys like Chris, did you ever watch the show Dinosaurs

541
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:53.599
Jim Henson Dinosaurs of Elsinclair? I
I was getting Elsinclair vibes with Pete and

542
00:37:53.639 --> 00:38:00.800
Fran his wife just the just the
grumpy buffoon of a husban who whose wife

543
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.639
is smart, intelligent and clearly wets
the pants and the ship that the ship

544
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.199
would not work. We would not
sail without the wife there. But he

545
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:09.360
likes to think that he runs a
show when really it's peg here. Same

546
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:15.119
with Pete. Yeah, I agree, but we're touching on earlier with Goofy

547
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.079
though we don't know whether if it
was a missus Goofy? Was that ever?

548
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.880
Did you ever ask that question when
they were pitching the show, like,

549
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:23.480
how does Goofy have a son?
Look when they said Goofy's got a

550
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:25.920
son, Max? Did you ever
go how wide? Was there ever a

551
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:30.159
backstory that they were considering implementing to
the show about an ex wife or whatever,

552
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.760
but they decided not to? What
was the idea there? You know,

553
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.920
I remember bringing it up, bringing
it up once. I said,

554
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:39.719
yeah, is his ex wife ever? Is she with us anymore? Is

555
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:43.079
she going to be here? She
goes, Nope, nope, she is

556
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.880
not going to be in the show. Oh okay, but what if he

557
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:50.440
Nope, nope? Too much explain? You know, we have to explain

558
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:54.719
two darn much when I think the
raid. You know, first of all,

559
00:38:54.760 --> 00:39:00.400
who the hell would marry Goofy?
So you know, yeah, there's

560
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:04.840
there's an insurmountable problem. It's a
question to bring up because we posted on

561
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.880
this on social media this morning asked
for some questions for goof Troop and man

562
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.920
oh man, it seems that every
like three out of five people want to

563
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.760
know, why wasn't Peg and Pistol? Why were they not in a Goofy

564
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:21.320
movie? Now? Do you know
why that was? I'd be curious about

565
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.280
that myself. Yeah, what was
the reason? Was it just a scheduled

566
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:27.360
conflict? Was that they didn't want
to gain? No? No, there's

567
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:31.239
no such thing as a schedule.
You just record it next week. Yeah,

568
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:37.480
you know, unless you're you know, Mel Gibson and you're in Canada

569
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.960
or Switzerland for six months or you
know what I mean. Yeah, No,

570
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:47.320
I I don't know. I don't
know. And I think it was

571
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:54.800
because, you know, usually it's
just the story dictates and they trim it

572
00:39:54.840 --> 00:40:00.440
down to the conflict's going to be
here with this person against that person,

573
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.239
and these two guys are going to
be the good guys, these three or

574
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:07.320
four guys are going to be the
bad guys, and then everybody around is

575
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:14.000
the periphery. And next thing you
know, there was no room to sit

576
00:40:14.039 --> 00:40:19.039
around the campfire or go out and
grill hot dogs in the backyard with the

577
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.599
gang, with the family, you
know, with with with April and and

578
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:29.280
the rest of them, it's just
just ended up not being necessary to tell

579
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.599
that story of that moviem Okay,
So, I mean I love the movie,

580
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:35.920
but it's always just felt like that's
the one thing that's held back from

581
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:39.000
truly feeling like a goof Troop movie
was the fact that Pagan Pistol went in

582
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:43.239
the ship in the film. Are
I agree? I just want to speak

583
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.400
briefly looping back to the popularity.
Obviously, me and Brendan were huge fans

584
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:52.199
of the show growing up, and
just doing my research, it was kind

585
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:57.360
of in the the beginning era of
releasing VHS tapes, and I think that

586
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:02.239
might have something to do with it. Do you remember the releases on video

587
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:08.079
and how that impacted this show?
Yeah? I do, And to this

588
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:16.079
day I'll sign two or three VHS
covers of the of those old of the

589
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:23.360
the movies themselves and and the shows. And I don't know, I because

590
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:28.440
it was so this was right around
then. Well, I think video was

591
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:30.719
out a little prior to though it
was, but I feel like it was

592
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:37.000
becoming popular in the early nineties,
early to mid nineties, espe directive video

593
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.760
sequels and things like that. Yeah, Yeah, that's true. Yeah,

594
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:45.599
In fact, I think that that
has a probably a stronger footprint, you

595
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:52.079
know, those directive videos because they
were Disney almost I think they invented them.

596
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.280
Yeah, I think it was the
Latin sequel was the was the favorite

597
00:41:54.440 --> 00:42:00.880
Latin. Yeah, I was gonna
say we we did the Whenever they would

598
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:02.440
take a movie and put it to
Cereal, you know, like a on

599
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:07.119
a put it to strip like they
did with The Laddin and lots of other

600
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:15.360
movies, they would always do like
a three or four part intro, like

601
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.239
it'd be like the premiere and it
would be I don't know, an hour

602
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.960
and a hour and fifteen minutes long, and it was just three episodes cut

603
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:28.079
up that they were going to introduce
the series with anyway, and they spliced

604
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:31.679
it together and said, no,
this is a directed TV movie, wink

605
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:36.239
wink, And then they'd play that
and then two weeks later they'd cut it

606
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:38.960
back up again and start up the
series, and then it was on Cereal

607
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:44.800
five days a week. So I
think they kind of invented that little genre

608
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.480
there. Yeah. And just while
we're on the subject of VHS, it

609
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.199
is just a little factoid for the
viewers out there. One of the reasons

610
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:57.800
that Blockbuster and movie rental companies were
so popular back then is because the VHS

611
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.840
to buy what would cost in the
eighties to early nineties one hundred dollars,

612
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:08.000
which was I remember the ninety bucks, yes, which was a lot of

613
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:13.480
money. Yes, And that's why
rental industries were so popular back then,

614
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.440
is because people didn't have the money
to spend one hundred dollars on a single

615
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:22.199
movie. And so that's why that
business model kind of took off, was

616
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.480
you had to rent because you couldn't
afford to buy. You know, five

617
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:30.880
of your favorite movies is five hundred
dollars. Oh yeah, that's the same

618
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:34.480
with much as movies though, sorry
Jim. Not just movies though, but

619
00:43:34.559 --> 00:43:38.320
just even TV shows that'd go Here's
a Christmas themed VHS of four Christmas themed

620
00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:42.400
cartoon episodes of Winnie the Poon.
They put it on a VHS and charge

621
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.000
you fifty bucks for it. You
think we used to pay that much money

622
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:49.000
for four single episodes of a TV
show. It's amazing how the world changed.

623
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.320
Oh yeah, and people complain about
seven ninety nine a month for streaming

624
00:43:52.360 --> 00:44:00.239
service. Well, nothing comes out
and gets more expensive, that's for sure,

625
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:05.559
except for cars. So when you
so you you audition for Peate.

626
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:07.320
Was it a similar deal to like, did you get it pretty quickly?

627
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:09.000
Or was it yet to come back? Yet to come back? Do you

628
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.920
know anyone else who went for the
role of pet any notable names? Well,

629
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:16.960
one fella who it probably wouldn't be
wise to say his name, he

630
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:22.599
had done him once or twice,
and thought that that he was in.

631
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:27.679
He was in, he was in, he was in. And and uh

632
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:30.519
so, of course, you know, everybody, the usual suspects. We

633
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:32.599
all go out and we auditioned for
this, that and the other thing.

634
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.599
I think the only thing they had
nailed down was Bill for Goofy, so

635
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.159
everything else was up up for grabs. And and I went and auditioned,

636
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:47.239
and I listened to some of the
old old uh vhs or whatever it was,

637
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:52.719
uh it's a Pete. And just
went in and auditioned, just like

638
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:57.840
I do for any other given anything. And they called me up and told

639
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:02.159
me, well, you got the
role of of Pete. And so I

640
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:07.800
said, okay, you know,
tied for first place is the oldest Disney

641
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:13.039
character or whatever it may be.
You just corrected me. But that's cool,

642
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:15.480
you know, I'll take it.
You know, just for our viewers,

643
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:20.159
who is he tied with for the
oldest Disney character. Well, I

644
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:27.079
guess Oswald rabbit before Mickey was a
mouse, was contemporary with him. I'd

645
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:29.719
have to really look that up,
you know what, you guys can look

646
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:34.920
at um rabbit. Okay, So
I don't know if he was Lucky,

647
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:38.840
but he was Oswald. But he
was definitely Oswald, and he wasn't a

648
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:44.360
mouse, and he had long ears. And when you go to Disneyland,

649
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:49.639
you'll see in the archives section of
you know, whatever the heck that thing

650
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:54.440
is over there, really articulate,
you'll see pictures of him. And if

651
00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:00.559
you google him or just ask your
phone or your neighbor, and you're right,

652
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:05.159
Jim Oswald, the Lucky you'rabbit was
the first character created by Disney.

653
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:09.960
Yeah. Yeah, so see.
But I think what they say with Pete

654
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:15.039
is Pete is the oldest recurring character
because Oswad doesn't exist anymore where Pete still

655
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:17.920
to this day. So when you
when you think of characters who still exist

656
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:23.599
and have been recurring over generations,
Pete is the honest and greatly so.

657
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:30.519
And right, well, that's cool, that's good to know. As we're

658
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:32.440
touching earlier though, So this is
a different version of Pete that we'd never

659
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.519
seen before. Suburban Pete with a
wife and a child and you know,

660
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:38.960
give hiss come back to his life
to get a son. So what elements

661
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:43.519
did you take from previous people and
what did you bring it to the character?

662
00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.519
You just wondered. You just wanted
to just make make sure he sounded

663
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:52.360
alike, sounded great, you know, like the original, But you had

664
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.119
to defang him. Like I said, it was just you know, I

665
00:46:54.159 --> 00:47:00.360
couldn't keep him angry at the top
of his lungs, you know, with

666
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:02.360
when he's talking to his four year
old or whatever. So do you think

667
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:06.920
it was more of the luck?
So how do you define the Jim Cummings

668
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:08.840
Pete compared to the Pete they can
before? Just you're not as angry.

669
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:19.559
No, mine's much much better,
just better now, Well, it's just

670
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:25.239
those same differences. That's it's kind
of like the same aspect. It's you

671
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.760
know, he just can't walk walk
around mad. That that would be the

672
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:38.119
Jim Cummings speed. You know,
I think mine would be more curmudgeon or

673
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:44.679
or you know, crumby old man
lives at the end of the Street as

674
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.840
opposed to villain. You know,
there's a big difference. So that's that's

675
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:51.599
the way I see it. Something
you just said just made me think of

676
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:55.079
a question. How how long do
you have to listen to a previous character

677
00:47:55.360 --> 00:48:00.320
for when you need to mash their
voice? Gosh, I think it varies.

678
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.639
It varies, I am, but
not long because I'll know, you

679
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.920
know, in three minutes if if
I'm gonna come, if I'll end up

680
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.480
being viable, or if it's like
no, you know, no, no,

681
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:21.159
never mind that one, I'll pass. It's just you know, it's

682
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:25.239
too high, it's too low or
whatever or something. But if it's kind

683
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:30.559
of in my wheelhouse, I'll know
it almost right away, you know.

684
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:34.639
And then if I if I give
it a shot. I think I told

685
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:38.360
you before I thought I was I
nailed E or I was so sure I

686
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:40.679
was a here, but I ended
up with pooing tinger, So it was

687
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:47.039
okay. You know, some would
say better, Yeah, I'm one of

688
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:53.519
them. Yeah, So I don't
know. We touched on the commentary.

689
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:58.880
So this cast, all star cast, this show again without So what was

690
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:01.800
it like working with Bill for the
first time as like as a buddy in

691
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:05.920
a show. You never really worked
with him to this extent. I've never

692
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:14.440
liked him very He's a great guy. He's a great guy, and his

693
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:19.159
son's a really good drummer. So
see got that going for you. But

694
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:23.280
no, we've I think we kind
of worked together on and off on different

695
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:30.440
things over the years, but certainly
since then. But back then, we

696
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:32.920
had both just shown up a couple
of years before, so there wasn't a

697
00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.440
big history to have. You know, he wasn't in the business. And

698
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:45.079
in fact, I'll tell you where
we met. It was at the Roger

699
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:51.639
Rabbit premiere. And you're both in
it, weren't you. Yeah. I

700
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:57.280
was a bullet number two and I
was a I was a pretty good weasel,

701
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:01.440
pretty prominent weasel. And I wish
I had these pictures because there were

702
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:07.400
pictures of this one big plastic weasel
standing in front of Bob Hoskins and he's

703
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:15.320
covered in gigantic uh gaffer's tape or
masking tape or electrical tape. But they

704
00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:20.239
were great, great tape, And
and we spent the entire frigging night in

705
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:23.840
Griffith Park and I'm doing weasel voices. What are you doing there? Anything?

706
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:28.480
Come on? Over here, you
know, and all this stuff,

707
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:30.880
and there's Bob's and mechas and I'm
going, this is my first job.

708
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:36.599
That's a big, major, most
magnet, you know, and so and

709
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.679
of course they threw it all out, so that whole scene. Yeah,

710
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:44.440
and I all of a sudden I
had no weasel lines. But thank god

711
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.440
for bullet number two and that the
ways of line. Does it still exist

712
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:52.199
somewhere that scene? Oh no,
yeah, I doubt it. I don't

713
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.239
know why, but if if,
if it does, I'll give you ten

714
00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.000
bucks for it. But no,
that but that's where Bill and I met,

715
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:07.119
right right there at the premiere yep. And uh and then the rest

716
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:13.480
is mystery, I guess. Was
this film to a recorded similar to like

717
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.800
Doctoring Duck and all the other shows? Were you all in the room together

718
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:20.239
at the same time? Which one
goof troop? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

719
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.039
yeah it was. That was one
of my favorite things about it,

720
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:27.719
you know, having everybody there for
the most part, we did, including

721
00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.519
Nancy because Nancy would have been very
busy with the Simpsons, right, so

722
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:35.800
did she? Was she always there? Yeah? I mean it's only she's

723
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:37.599
still doing one show a week there
and one show a week here, So

724
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:43.480
it's not Simpsons. They take a
lot longer. Yeah, because they're a

725
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:46.159
little more you know, have a
better budget. Huh yeah exactly. But

726
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:52.360
I mean even then, No,
she was there, she was there.

727
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:53.719
We're all there. I I kind
of like that. I mean I like

728
00:51:53.800 --> 00:52:00.199
that so much more because if you
have an organic response and you know that

729
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:06.960
the person that's responding to is there
and has the ability to so it's much

730
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:12.360
better. Because Goofy was such an
established character, like and Bill had him,

731
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.280
like did you was there? Ays
like nervousness with like just like having

732
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.199
to live up to you know,
Bill his Goofy and Peter's such an iconic

733
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:20.360
character kind of like we need the
Pooh. You said you weren't nervous if

734
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.719
we need the Pooh? But is
there a slight I'll know or you just

735
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:23.920
got to go in to go note
this is mine now, like us going

736
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:28.039
to own this. I They've picked
me for a reason, let's do it.

737
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:31.039
Yeah. I never have that worry. No, I mean I never

738
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:37.039
have. It's not arrogance assisted but
you can't I guess, well, there

739
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:43.519
you go, Bell, I mean
you're not there because they're being charitable exactly,

740
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:49.280
you know, They've read plenty of
people for these roles, plenty.

741
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:54.159
Yes, you know, you're not
denying them anything by giving them you It's

742
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:57.280
just amazing to think though that,
you know, like you're saying, they

743
00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:00.840
so many people auditioned, but they
always go back to that core cast.

744
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:05.039
Just goes to show how much faith
Disney had in you guys. I guess

745
00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.599
so I'll take it. I'm glad. Yeah, all right, Chris,

746
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:10.280
should we get into some should we
get into some mailbag questions? Do you

747
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:14.760
think let's do it? All right? Yeah? So we asked lovely people

748
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:17.440
on Facebook and on Instagram for some
questions. I'll start This. One's from

749
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:22.440
Leo Prince. How is it like
to play a more civilized version of Pete

750
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.400
with him having a family and all? This is from lear lia I said

751
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:30.079
he loved all your interactions with the
family in particular. Oh good, well,

752
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:32.119
thank you, Leo. And yeah, we were just talking about that.

753
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:37.119
It's kind of nice because it took
the onus of Pete, so he

754
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:43.760
just doesn't have to work around,
you know, on nine point nine,

755
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:45.880
you know, out of ten all
the time. He doesn't have to go

756
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:52.920
apoplectic and just go, you know, have his head blown off with anchor

757
00:53:52.119 --> 00:53:57.280
and this and that, because it
you know, it opened mouth to being

758
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:01.400
a frustrated and I think it was
funnier too to have a frustrated guy who's

759
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:07.639
really not a villain per se in
this show, but he's a foil and

760
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:10.840
as we have just seen, he
usually ends up taking more lumps than Goofy.

761
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.639
So I mean, who's doing who? All right, Chris? Your

762
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:21.960
first question? All right, this
is from Chaos Devin on Instagram. On

763
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:29.400
a scale on once a ten,
how are Pete's parenting skills? Oh,

764
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:34.519
I'd say eight point one? Yeah, right, pretty good dad. What

765
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.920
do you think makes him a good
father? Well, you know, he's

766
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:44.639
certainly a good provider and he almost
listens to his kids occasionally. He's a

767
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:51.480
pretty good husband, you know.
He he's very gentle, and he does

768
00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:55.400
all the heavy lifting or he'll hire
someone that does. And he's kind of

769
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:59.400
covering all the bases. I mean, he's not going to get further of

770
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:04.559
the year, and he may not
be running down to be the scout master,

771
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:09.280
but he'll hire someone to do it, so that's not bad. And

772
00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:15.960
he shows the family some pretty good
vacations. I think we've seen that one

773
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:19.719
little RV that he had that with
the upper deck pool. You can't beat

774
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:23.880
that, And so he's a case. He's he's kind of a Santa Dad

775
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:31.159
and a good provider and an upstanding
citizen and businessman. Want some at saor

776
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:35.360
T forty? He says, Pete
went from a villain to a grouchy neighbor

777
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:37.559
on this show. His question is
do you enjoy voicing him more as a

778
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:42.000
villainous character like what you get in
the Chippendale films, or do you think

779
00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:45.760
a comic relief focused character is more
what you prefer. Oh, the comic

780
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.960
belief Yeah, I mean the others
are fine in their place, but you

781
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:52.519
know, you can't, you know, you can't keep that up. That's

782
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:59.000
not a that's like a one off. That's like the cartoon before the movie,

783
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:04.519
which is where most of the Pete
cartoons lived. But uh, yeah,

784
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.159
I definitely like that, like him
in the in the sitcom. That's

785
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:12.760
basically what it is. It's a
sitcom sitting Yeah, yeah, married with

786
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:15.559
children? All right. Here's another
one from Instagram. How many outtakes did

787
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:22.079
you record for when Pete had his
hysterical breakdowns? Oh? Boy, no,

788
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:27.039
I don't know outtakes. They used
every darned syllable. No, I

789
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.800
I don't know, you know,
because sometimes you'll get all worked up and

790
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:36.239
then you'll accidentally I think he cussed. No, I didn't cuss. That's

791
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:39.960
bullshit, you know, And I'll
say something like that and then they go,

792
00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:43.719
okay, we can't use that.
We'll all I said, Oh,

793
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:45.079
I see what you're saying. Sorry, I need to hear Pete saying bullshit

794
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:52.119
though. Yeah, yeah, well
subscribe to Patreon and oh, they're gonna

795
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:57.559
we're gonna make him pay for that
one. Brandon, don't you worry.

796
00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:05.960
You got shit covered to get a
I called Cummings Cummings cusses. Oh my

797
00:57:06.039 --> 00:57:09.599
goodness. Just a side note,
that's actually so funny since we've been doing

798
00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:13.599
this podcast, Like so many of
the people that we've met, you know,

799
00:57:13.679 --> 00:57:19.760
their their character or the persona that
they're known for is often you know,

800
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:23.280
because we're all people, and so
it's so funny to see people just

801
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:28.400
reacting as their normal self. I
mean even when we were at a we

802
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:34.679
were at a convention last weekend and
you were like something completely unrelated from the

803
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:37.239
line at the convention, and you
know, you were dealing with something and

804
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:42.519
you were like, what the and
then this girl starts laughing and then you're

805
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:44.920
like, oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean for you to hear

806
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.880
that, and she's like, no, it's hilarious. It's just so funny

807
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:52.360
to hear you say that word always
taken off because Jim was sitting on the

808
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:57.039
chair looking for these headphines forgetting the
head fines were in the studio, and

809
00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:06.239
Jim's response was was fuck me,
Like well, yeah, yeah, but

810
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:10.559
I was talking to you, so
maybe no, that's not right. Okay,

811
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:15.559
Well, these guys are making this
up in America. Never said a

812
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:24.239
dirty word in his life, never, brother, that's more bullshit. Yeah

813
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:28.360
for a question, I think it
is right. It is, Yeah,

814
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:31.599
alright. Kyl Cashion. Carson says, with the voice acting sessions on this

815
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:36.480
show just as dysfunctional like the characters
perceived on the show on the on the

816
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:38.480
actual show. So with the voice
acting sessions as wild as what they appeared

817
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:45.960
on the actual show. It was
controlled chaos, which is what the best

818
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:51.400
sessions are. But I can tell
you one of one of our favorite things.

819
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:55.079
And if we'll get Bill Farmer on
here one fine day and we'll have

820
00:58:55.199 --> 00:59:01.039
this verified and you know, we
would sit and it was a Fidelity studios.

821
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:05.559
It was in North Hollywood, and
I don't know if it's still there,

822
00:59:05.559 --> 00:59:09.719
but it was a room that was
kind of set up like a rectangle

823
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.840
of microphones but missing the top,
you know, because you know, there

824
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.960
was a glass window there we're looking
through there. There's a director, Jeny

825
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:24.599
McSwain, the producers, you know, the writers and everybody, and so

826
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:29.000
the actors are all inside and we're
all there, and for one reason or

827
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:34.280
another, Nancy was there, of
course, Dana Hill, April Winchell,

828
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:39.760
myself, and maybe Rob Paulson he
may well have been there. But we're

829
00:59:39.800 --> 00:59:44.559
all waiting for Bill to come in. And something happened. He had a

830
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:47.920
flat to I don't know and sorry, sorry, come in, excuse me,

831
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:53.360
everyb and he came in and she
said, all right, well we

832
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:58.639
can all go in. And he
knocked over his microphone stand, his boom

833
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.199
stand. It fell into the one
next to it, It fell into the

834
01:00:01.199 --> 01:00:06.119
one that he got. He took
out all he took out four stands and

835
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:13.079
two chairs and heat. All he
did was walk in. That's it.

836
01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:17.440
So he's goofy and he's good.
And if he was here, and we

837
01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:22.800
have talked about this, so I'm
okay with sinking. The sweetest lady ever,

838
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:27.920
Rucy Taylor. She and Wayne Lwine
were marrying Mickey and Minnie Mouse for

839
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:35.039
many moons and many moons ago,
Uh Bill, Gosh, Mickey Minnie Me.

840
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:40.320
Anyway, We're at the Shrine Auditorium
in Los Angeles and it was a

841
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:47.000
day for you know, special needs
kids, and they had telephones set up

842
01:00:47.039 --> 01:00:52.079
with cartoon character pictures and the kids
can go up and there were dozens of

843
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:54.840
kids there. It was it was
kind of like the Shriff Smile Club that

844
01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:59.639
I'd been to back in my hometown, and it's you know, kids with

845
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:01.320
hattie caps or what have you.
And they come and they could talk to

846
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:06.079
their favorite cartoon character, pick up
the phone and say hello, Hello,

847
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:10.920
winned the Boo, Hello, Tigger
Hello. And so we we we were

848
01:01:12.280 --> 01:01:16.519
stationed up above the courtyard and it
was the darkened windows, so we could

849
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:19.960
stand there and wave at them and
they wouldn't have been able to see us.

850
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:22.000
And they're certainly not going to be
looking up there, and if they

851
01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:23.719
did, they're not going to see
Winny of the Poo. They're going to

852
01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:28.639
see some guy in a T shirt
standing up there, so we're pretty safe.

853
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:32.800
And Bill comes up and he gets
his and we're all sitting around.

854
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:37.159
There's little cuffe tables with it.
And Bill gets up and he grabs a

855
01:01:37.199 --> 01:01:44.039
phone, and bless his heart,
he walks right in to a jet black

856
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:50.719
screen. It's off stage, and
it engulfs him, just like it would

857
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:54.639
have if had Goofy walked into the
room and and he and he spins around

858
01:01:55.159 --> 01:02:00.199
and he cocoons himself in there and
goes oha. Then he falls over backwards,

859
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:07.400
pulls the phone out of the wall, and Rusy Taylor God rest her

860
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:13.360
so Mini mouse she almost peeded.
I'm pretty sure she had to run through

861
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:15.400
it. She says, Billy,
you gotta stop it. You're gonna kill

862
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:20.920
me one of these days. She
goes, And he did that. He

863
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:22.639
didn't do that on purpose. It
looked like he did, but no,

864
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:29.559
it looked like Goofy. It looked
just like Goofy. And I was thinking,

865
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:31.400
man, oh man, that this
guy. He's a character actor.

866
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:38.159
He's a method a method actor,
a character method actor. And we've had

867
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:42.239
some fun reminiscent with that over the
years. I'll see if I can get

868
01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:45.239
him to replicate that on some future
podcast. Maybe he did an audition for

869
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:50.159
the voice. He just walked in
and kno over. Yeah, oh there

870
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:55.199
he goes. How bad can he
be? It would definitely get Bill on

871
01:02:55.239 --> 01:03:00.239
the shot at some point. Oh
yeah, we will, you know,

872
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:06.079
fun times. This one's from Zan
eight O seven eight nine. What is

873
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:08.880
the funniest moment you had during your
recording session with Rob Paulson. I kind

874
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:15.039
of see a father son slip up
with some good jokes occurring. Oh gosh,

875
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:20.519
probably just Rob and I telling dirty
jokes back and forth about you know,

876
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.000
his little Susie cream Cheese next door. I don't know. I don't

877
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:30.119
know, but I've worked with Rob
so many times that you know, all

878
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:35.440
of our sessions have you know,
descended into chaos in one form or another.

879
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:39.360
Yeah, so, but yeah,
like father like, huh, I'm

880
01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:45.400
just by little Susie cream Chase next
door. Yeah. Yeah, Well,

881
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:49.679
I don't know. I don't know
if it doesn't for anybody else. But

882
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:54.679
his voice is PJ and he has
a very similar voice as I Forget Carl

883
01:03:54.760 --> 01:04:00.280
and Jimmy Neutron Carl. Yeah,
that's it. Yeah, and it makes

884
01:03:59.880 --> 01:04:03.480
me sad for some reason. It's
such like a it's such a defeated voice.

885
01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:09.199
It kind of makes me sad girl
weezer. Yeah, you're right.

886
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:12.840
Well, you know, I've got
my own little mini theory about that,

887
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:17.199
and I've never spoken with it to
Rob. But I you'll notice that that

888
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:23.400
heroes have always got a certain tone
in their voice, and if that was

889
01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:30.079
music, it would be better,
bet But and it sounds like an announcement.

890
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:36.800
It sounds like a prock bam,
whereas the bad guys are kind of

891
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:44.199
snaking around in there in a minor
key. And that's why again, that's

892
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:51.360
like but you and you know that
that's not going to be There are no

893
01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:56.519
ballerinas in this scene, you know, you know it's a it's like whenever.

894
01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:59.760
The first time I noticed it was
in a show called The Riflemen,

895
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.719
and it was an old, old, old sixty show, and the theme

896
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:10.039
song was Boomer Doom Doom boom,
didn't doom day do doom doom doom doom.

897
01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:14.760
But whenever the rifleman was in trouble
and the bad guys were sneaking around

898
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:17.599
the barn to kidnap him and get
the life, they would play the theme

899
01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:27.199
song. But it was in a
minor key boo boo boo, you knew

900
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:33.519
something was wrong, And the same
goes in because I tend to think of

901
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:41.239
it sing well, singing obviously,
but dialogue and everything in a musical terms,

902
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.960
in a rhythmic term. And uh, it's simple. You know,

903
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:53.800
good news is in a major key. Uh, and and bad news is

904
01:05:54.480 --> 01:06:03.159
really no idea that good of a
key. So then what yeah, yeah,

905
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:06.119
yeah, that's right. Yeah.
So where so where is he?

906
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:12.920
What is that? Yeah? That's
right, And he's he's kind of got

907
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:16.239
that damsel in distress, doesn't he. I mean, I don't know why.

908
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:18.800
It just makes me like sad,
but I hear his voice even when

909
01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:24.320
he's doing twisted tunes in that voice. Yeah, that's like a defeating voice.

910
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.119
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He
has not won a lot of battles,

911
01:06:28.159 --> 01:06:31.880
battles well with dad, with his
dad in one show and with Jimmy

912
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:35.480
Neutron and the other. So yeah, I think how would you explain the

913
01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:46.480
dynamic between Pete and PJ Well bullying
bullied? Yeah, domin He's constantly trying

914
01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:48.599
to sort of like impress his dad, isn't he And sort of by the

915
01:06:48.639 --> 01:06:53.079
side he thinks he's not wanting to
be oh yeah, yeah, and then

916
01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:56.880
he then he just resigns himself to
failure. Well that was when I was

917
01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:00.480
trying to surf. This is when
I was trying to you know, blah

918
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:04.000
blah blah. But he does have
some success when it comes to skateboarding.

919
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:09.519
So yes, he's not a complete
mess. We hope. All right,

920
01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:12.880
we'll do a couple more. I've
got a question here. This is from

921
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.559
squill on Twitter. What would Goofy
and Pete's favorite drink bee to order at

922
01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:20.079
a bar? Well, Pete probably
just have a beer just to stand a

923
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:23.639
beer. Yeah, what Brandon Bee? Are you a beer man, Jim?

924
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:27.599
I can't see you being I suppose
yeah. I like Mexican beers,

925
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:30.679
not beat Okay, there's a few
out there. Goofy's going some sort of

926
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:36.239
like alcoholic free cocktail, right,
Well, he doesn't need any He's he's

927
01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:40.440
yeah, who knows, Yeah,
I don't know. I'm going to say

928
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:45.960
a shaken nut stirred whatever James Bond
has, that's what Goofy would have.

929
01:07:45.079 --> 01:07:51.760
I'm sure exactly. Let's see us
out. Okay, this one, this

930
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:55.400
one is a good question. It's
a little long, but it's a good

931
01:07:55.480 --> 01:08:00.679
question. This one is by make
Pete matter. Oh like a movement?

932
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:08.599
Wait TT or d D instead of
me to Pete two, make Pete matter.

933
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:12.519
Pete is the original Disney villain,
and that ninety eight is the oldest

934
01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:15.760
continuing character in the Disney's one hundred
year history. He played a central role

935
01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.319
in goof Troop in the Goofy movie, and has appeared in every Mickey Mouse

936
01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:24.319
Show on Disney Junior going on twenty
years. He has little to no merchandise

937
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:28.560
available in the parks, in stores
or online. He has no official social

938
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:32.399
media representation, and just this year
was added as a costume character at Disneyland,

939
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:36.279
but no other parks. Why do
you think Disney chooses to ignore Pete's

940
01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:44.520
existence and overlook him in favor of
other characters? Wow, you know what,

941
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:47.439
It never even occurred to me that
they were doing this. I'm going

942
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:50.640
to have to make some bone calls
in the morning, no, and then

943
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:59.159
they'll ignore me professionally though see no
answer your quest question. I didn't notice

944
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:02.199
that. But that's I want now. I want to know there aren't many.

945
01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:06.159
I think there's like Pete like Kingdom
Hearts merch but that's about it.

946
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:11.159
There's no other form of Pete.
Really, I think you're right about that.

947
01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:15.079
Yeah? Is it because they love
marketing villains now, like marketing villains

948
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:15.960
is a big thing. So it's
not that. It's not because he's a

949
01:09:15.960 --> 01:09:18.960
bad guy. I wonder what it
is. Yeah, yeah, it's not

950
01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:21.720
that. Well, they have a
show, a show, a shop at

951
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:27.159
Disneyland, and I think it's just
all evil witches, isn't it, Chris

952
01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:30.479
right there when you walk back.
Yeah, that's right. They've got to

953
01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:34.760
shop for that, literally all the
villains. Yeah, well, Disney Villains

954
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:40.680
is now a brand like Disney Princesses. Oh yeah, well Pete's the original,

955
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.960
so it is. Yeah, you
think they'd be more marketing that.

956
01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.800
But I'm sure there's a reason.
I agree. Yeah, I don't know

957
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:50.560
it. I'm sure to keep money
out of Jim's poet. That's the reason

958
01:09:50.880 --> 01:10:00.920
I know. It's always something from
the Rodney dangerfield of animation. All right,

959
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:03.680
final one here, bj Riggs wants
to know. Can you can we

960
01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:10.640
hear Pete mimic Goofy's famous chuckle will
let me see there? Oh yuck?

961
01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:17.680
I actually I used to do that
in the show every now and then.

962
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:23.000
Did I think in the episode we
just watched because he was taking Mickey out

963
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.800
of him of course. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I think so oh

964
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:32.000
yuck. Yeah, well gorsh oh
yuck. Yeah, that's about Ray.

965
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:38.800
Yeah and for everybody listening, you
can hear that episode on Patreon. Yeah

966
01:10:38.920 --> 01:10:41.720
yeah, Tommy's comment Terry of everything's
coming up, goofy the pile. What

967
01:10:41.760 --> 01:10:44.439
we tend to do is we get
the pilot episode of these Disney Afternoon shows.

968
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:45.039
I think we're pretty much run through
just about all of them. Now

969
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:49.399
we're going to start doing other episodes. Right, what's done yet of Orn

970
01:10:49.479 --> 01:10:53.159
the Gummy Bears yet or things like
that, But that's true, we haven't

971
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:55.600
know what we haven't done. There's
New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. We

972
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.560
need to do that, as the
pilot was out of that show. And

973
01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:00.399
it's funny. I believe the pilot
episode that gym is the one you don't

974
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:03.640
like because it's the one they go
to the movies and you didn't like that

975
01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:06.840
story. Yeah, yeah, it
was a weird one. Yeah, but

976
01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:11.640
that's okay, that's okay. We'll
pretend that we enjoyed it. Yeah,

977
01:11:11.800 --> 01:11:15.600
no, I mean I do enjoy
it. I mean, but yeah,

978
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:17.840
it was my first time out and
way back when, and I don't want

979
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:21.279
to spoiler alert, but it wasn't
crazy about my Winning the Pooh back then.

980
01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:26.039
Okay. I mean it took like
about eight shows to get going,

981
01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:28.319
and I was like, okay,
all right, now, God, that's

982
01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:31.960
interesting. Well we'll dive deeper on
that. Yeah, good episode. And

983
01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:34.720
you know, there's been a lot
of demand for Jim to go back and

984
01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:39.159
just revisit the New Adventures of Winning
the Pool. People want this. I

985
01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:42.119
think we need to somehow work something
out in twenty twenty four, are Winning

986
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:45.119
the Pooh based show revisiting those episodes
because I think of all the characters you

987
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:47.720
do, there's people that connection to
Winnie the Pooh. It's just there's something

988
01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:53.039
about it. Mate, there's just
people love it. No, you're only

989
01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:55.600
one hundred percent rate, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, all right, and

990
01:11:55.640 --> 01:11:59.399
then Pooh's coming up after that.
Hope you guys enjoyed this little deep dive

991
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:00.960
here of goof Now, don't worry. We didn't touch too much on a

992
01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.560
Goofy movie. That's because we're going
to be saving that for another episode.

993
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:06.079
We're going to do a prop a
deep dive of a Goofy movie. And

994
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:10.479
an extremely goofy movie as well.
The director video sequel, which came about

995
01:12:10.520 --> 01:12:13.840
five years after that, wasn't anywhere
near successful as that first film, but

996
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:15.439
I do love a goofy movie,
so we're gonna be doing an episode on

997
01:12:15.479 --> 01:12:17.960
that in the coming weeks. Don't
forget. As Chris mentioned, you can

998
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:20.960
support the show on Patreon. You
know, only get early and add free

999
01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:26.000
access to this show, so no
pesty adds. We get access to exclusive

1000
01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:29.920
podcasts, including Cummings commentaries where we
go back in movies at the part episodes.

1001
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:30.880
As we said of the Disney Afternoon
shows, we're gonna be doing a

1002
01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:34.079
Christmas special come December. I don't
forget to follow us on all the social

1003
01:12:34.079 --> 01:12:39.880
media's Twitter, Instagram, TikTok and
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1004
01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:42.720
Gymcomings podcast dot com. But for
now, Jim, thanks for your time,

1005
01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:45.840
mate, do appreciate it, my
pleasure. Brandon, thank you so

1006
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:49.399
much, producer Chris. We've done
it again, absolutely, and thank you

1007
01:12:49.439 --> 01:12:54.520
everybody for tuning in. Please like
us and love us and give us a

1008
01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:58.560
big lick on the y interwebs,
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1009
01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:00.079
don't think so. Thank you,
Thank you. I think we need to

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have to pay to send us off, right, Well, I don't know,

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Belle. I don't think we can
afford me

