How you doing out there? It's me Tiger, I am Duck Wing Duck.
It's me Bunkers deep Bobcat All right, Yon, didn't bree your favorite
firefly you desire? Hold no old, no God. My name is Jim
Cummings, and welcome to tuned In. Welcome to tuned In with Jim Cummings
here on the fourthing of this GAT network, Iy and Brendan Dano, joined
right now by producer Chris. Hello, everybody, how's it going. We're
joined by the man who's been marrying Peg since nineteen ninety two. It is
mister chim Comings. How are you so? Hello? The very good life
is good, and so is Peg and Peg and Peg. Now, of
course we are here today to do a bit of a deep dive on goof
Troop, one of my night No, it actually is my favorite Disney Afternoon
Shove all the time. But before we get into goof Troop and all that
fun stuff, Thanksgiving coming up. So Happy Thanksgiving to all of our listeners
out there. What are you two gentlemen doing for Thanksgiving this year? Well,
thank you for asking. We're going to find an innocent bird and show
it a horrible demise and then to make us swell me a lot of it
the way Pete would be proud. No, we're gonna we're gonna have some
fun. Am just gonna go play some craps and stuff at Vegas? Isn't
what you're gonna do? I don't. I don't know. Well, it
depends on how bad that bird is. That it's a bad joke. But
yeah, but I'll be trying to make my world famous dressing. So that's
world famous dressing. So, Chris, is it actually worthy of the name
world famous dressing? Or absolutely? It's the perfect moisture, it's the perfect
texture, it's it's fabulous. So dressing for the meat or for the for
the bird in the bird, out of the bird. Yeah, okay,
wow, so we have to hear about this now. Don't tell us the
secrets the secret recipe, but like what goes into it? What? What's
what's so special about it? Well, my secret ingredient is bread, that's
all. Okay? Maybe someone maybe some o young, some a little bit
of a little bit maybe you know optional or yeah and uh, and then
you drive drive it around New Orleans a couple of times and it comes out
really well, who taught you the recipe a lot Mama Cummings or oh yeah,
yeah, my mom did. Yeah, and then I just sort of
refined it. And every now and then you're throwing some mushrooms or something and
you know, a little whatever the local flavor is. It's a beautiful thing,
all right, Chris. And you you're also not gonna be home for
Thanksgiving? Eye? Was it next week? You're getting away? Well,
I'm yeah, I'm bypassing Thanksgiving this year because I'm leaving to Japan on Monday.
So I didn't want to have back to back travel dates. So I'm
just taking it easy. I'm probably gonna go see some friends and uh yeah,
take it easy. Yeah. Have have a little turkey, little ham
you know some uh some mac and cheese. Is turkey? That the one
thing you have to eat on Thanksgiving? And you go with it. You
have to you have to have to do. You guys have Thanksgiving down Andrew?
No, we do not know. We we have nothing to give thanks
for. So is there anything similar? Uh no, we don't at all.
No. Well, you have first of July, so we have that's
Australia Day for us. We have nothing Thanksgiving. I feel like now though,
we'll definitely. Now, the Black Friday sales are a big thing.
It's just they've just they've taken the Black Friday sales. But we don't actually
have Thanksgiving, but we have Black Friday sales and they've already started. They
start them like last week. Over Lord's Amazon have put that on us.
Yes, it really has. Yeah, but I think we're just very grateful
just living Australia in general. But we're just just happy all the time.
Everyone has their own beach exactly right, we went back yet, what about
Anzac Day and day? That's sort of like a day of remembrance. Yeah,
I guess you give thanks on that because you remember those who fought.
Yeah, but it's it's more of a day of remembering the soldiers more and
giving thanks. But it's not a similar kind of thing to giving thanks,
like yeah, Thanksgiving. But you know an excuse day turkey there right?
Oh yeah, yeah, Well it was when the Pilgrims and the Native Americans
got together and you know, realized they could get along peaceably, and they
traded recipes and next thing you know, there was this big old bodacious meal
there and so they gave thanks And is it just me or does I swear
Christmas gets advertised earlier and earlier every year. Okay, spoiler alert, the
kids put up the Christmas tree last weekend at our house. When I was
growing up, it was like right after Thanksgiving, the weekend after Thanksgiving.
Yeah, then when you put up the Christmas tree. Now it's the weekend
after Halloween. Yeahs soon as as soon as the candies out of the way,
it's just straight into Christmas presents and Christmas decorations. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm not crazy about it. I mean, I'm all for chused. I
love Christmas. Know about you guys, You guys love Christmas. Oh,
I love it. It's my favorite. Yeah, there's no doubt about best.
And speaking of I'm Christmas for our lovely supporters on Patreon here on the
Tuni Patreon channel speak, we're gonna we're throwing up a poll of various Disney
Afternoons Christmas specials, and we're going to be doing a special exclusively for Patreon
on whatever the patrons decide might be a Winni the Pooh christ Is Special,
or a goof Troope Christmas Special, or Chip and Dale, whatever they select
in their poll, we'll be doing a special bonus, a little recap review
commentary of that episode as well, which is only available on the tuned In
Patreon channel, so you can support the show and get access to a bunch
of exclusive Jim Cummings goodness on there. Yeah. But of course today,
of course, today we are here to talk about goof Troop. I'm very
excited for this. This is the one of when I sort of even pitched
this podcast. I'm like, I'm going to do this podcast just so I
can talk about goof Troop because I just love goof Trip that much. I
think you're the same, Chris Stright. I think it's a different feeling we're
talking about these shows regret with. It's just that it brings out the best
in this It's just so great to look back and remember it. This was
definitely my favorite. Absolutely. Yeah. Do you think it's the theme song?
Because the themes like, honestly, listeners, you you ain't we of
this, But Chris and I both was setting up. We're just both gone
bottle. We just kept singing it. Yeah. It's so fun to sing
the theme song, isn't it. Yes, sure it is. It's bubbling,
it's poppin. I want to hear Jim sing the theme some one day.
We need to make that happen, okay, Yeah, or notes or
maybe a song that I actually did sing. Yes, Okay, you didn't
sing that one. Okay, you pick it. Mayby songs that I did
say you picked he didn't sing. There's one we've already heard you singing those.
You're living in the past, gym, you're living in the past.
Yeah, it's nice back here. We just did a commentary exclusive Patreon of
the pilot of goof Troop Everything's coming out goofy and we touched on a few
of these things that we're going to touch on again in this podcast. But
basically I was just saying on that that you know, goof Trip reminds me
of Saturday mornings here in Australia, because here in Australia we didn't get the
afternoon shows. We got them on a Saturday morning on a show called Saturday
Disney. Whenever I think of Saturday Disney, immediately think of the goof Trip
theme and just sitting there with a bowl of cereal, dad out the front
mowing the lawn, just Saturday morning in Australia. What kind of cereal was
it like a cereal, we would know here was it? Well, if
it was if it was a Saturday, I would have been having probably fruit
loops or maybe cocoa pops. Oh so you were a health nut. Yes,
yes, yes, speaking of speaking of cereal and the nineties, do
you remember when there used to be toys in cereal? Remember when there was
toys in packets of chips as well? Yeah, clips, We did not
have that, really well, we had these things, so you had to
remember that at least, so you had pops. We had these things called
tazos, right, and they used to get them to put them in packets
of chips, so you have to buy packets of chips to collect them on.
We had like Simpsons tasos and Looney Tunes tasos and things like that,
Space Jam tasos, and they were a thing. And of course then the
PC police came out and went, you know, you're promoting that, you
know, unhealthy habits to children by putting things in potato chips. So they
stopped it and ruined the fun of ruined childhood for the future generation. Yeah.
I don't remember chips, but I definitely remember the cereal the cereal man.
We had Power Rangers, Pokemon, Oh, Disney Afternoon everything. It
was. Yeah, Well, whenever I'll do conventions, I will always I
always, always, always signed three or four, half dozen or at least
a half dozen, you know, of a different words. Now this one,
I got this on a Race Crispy. This was in a Race Crispy
box, you know, and I had to and I bought four until I
got to bonkers. But I finally got bonkers and I said, oh that's
great, you know, and I signed them and they were in there were
little chips of Cereal line. It's a beautiful thing. Some of the most
expensive collectibles now, the ones where, for example, he had to buy
like five boxes of the Cereal cut the coupon out sends away for it because
he can't get those things anymore, of course, because he can't send away
from now. But if you have some of these collector was where you just
had to send away for them, they're worth a mint now. Oh,
I know, because I was talking to a Simpsons collector recently and he's got
like some Simpsons thing that you had to send away for, like the little
three eyed fish from the Simpsons, and you had to like buy all these
boxes of cereal whatever, cut out the coupon, send them away, and
now that it's worth like over a thousand dollars, just this little toy because
you just can't get them anymore. Dang. And that was actually funny on
the on the Deep Dive episode we were just watching, on the commentary episode
we were watching on Patreon, it was funny how PJ literally all the toys
in his room, you know, he wouldn't touch because his dad said,
you Jim, his dad said they were all collectibles and that they couldn't be
taken out of the packages. And that was thirty years ago. That was
thirty years ago. And I just find it funny how it just holds up
so well today, even better today, I'd say, yeah, one hundred
percent. Feel like people were talking to people, weren't talking about it as
much back then. Like when you had toys, you play with them,
you know, when we were going. Now it's like now you buy three,
you buy one to display, one to play with, one pulled away
in storage and catch it, guys up and you you know, I won't
be doing it to the camera now. But I've got my original Johnny Rebel
Canyon. That's something else you wouldn't be able to say, uh, cannon
sorry, uh. And it had shot real little balls. It was a
little you know, sort of like an old geral cartoon cannon from and it
but it was based on the Civil War cannons. Oh yeah, and uh
and it shoots balls. And I've got the ramrod and it works. So
it's fifty six years old. No, no, about sixty sixty years old
and it works. So there. They don't build them like they used to.
And wait, did they hold the Union Army Army Johnny ReBs. No,
that was the Southern. That was the Southern. Yeah, the Union
Jack. The Union guys were the Union Jacks. I think I have no
idea what these toys are. But what so what were they that was just
promoting just civil war? Yeah? Yeah, well you can't beat a good
go to Civil war kids. Yeah, they have Civil War re enactments,
and I've never understood that they're a lot of fun though, I'm sure it'd
be fun to watch. Yeah, have you ever been to one? Huh?
No, No, I've never been. I'm actually really surprised a by
that. Yeah, me too, you think I would have. I felt
like GYP just seems like the kind of guy that would be in there just
in and amongst it. Yeah, yeah, might like I'd be General Custer.
He did not. He did not farewell in his last battle. It's
funny because I do a South Park podcast and we just reviewed the episode where
they take the mickey out of Civil War reenactments. So it's just it's just
weird how just sort of just tied in. No, of course, but
we're here to talk about goove Troup. Now, as I say, one
of my favorite shows, Jim, when you think a good trip, I'll
have to sort of start this way. What are your first initial memories of
good troop? When someone says good trip to you, what are you think
of? Oh boy, a license to just go crazy and have a lot
of lot of great fun. You know, Genny McSwain was a director,
and Bob Taylor uh was one of the producers, and among others you know
at Wexler and different people, Mark Zaslov and we had so much fun because
you know, it was first of all, was putting Goofy, a character
everybody knew, into a completely different setting. I mean, when you thought
of Goofy, you did not think father figure. That's for sure, and
Pete you kind of did, you know, because he you know, he
had enough bluster to you know, to get throw his weight around and everything,
and it was, you know, it was just a great little blend
because you put the two together. And no, I don't know what happened
to missus Goofy or if there was one, but but you know, Pete
was there and he had his family next door, and it was a lot
of fun, you know, because there was always friction between them, no
matter what, and so whenever, you know, we needed something to happen,
just put the two of them together. And I just realized we're counting
and I was in. Pete was in every single show, so that was
kind of cool, and me Stadd one apparently you're saying someone at convention pointed
out to you that you're and all of them, and Stadd in one episode
of his own show. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's probably
his evil twin was in it, I think. But I think like Goofy
is like the face of the show, but I think the show kind of
revolves around Pete, though more like without Pete the show I think so too.
No, I don't, but I'll take it. Well, you know,
I don't know if that's it, but I mean, thank you.
But you know, Peter Pan doesn't get to be the hero without captain hook,
right, And they say, you know, like series or movies are
made off the villain, you know, the better of the villain. I
mean, how many that was Darth Vader costumes? Do you see? You
don't see? You know that many Luke Skywalkers? Yeah, I mean just
the villains that are cooler in general, aren't they? Absolutely? Oh yeah,
and you've played quite a bit, Jim, I've played many a villain.
Well, Pete's the original Disney villain he is. Yeah, and we're
just talking. We're talking on the might have been off the air, maybe
on the commentary, not too sure. But Pete, I believe, if
you read any of the reports online, is actually the longest recurring Disney character
of all time, which is a pretty remarkable thing. So when you first
got the role of obviously this was the first time you voiced Pete was for
this show? Right, Yeah? Voice Pete before this? That's right?
Did that sort of sink in that how big of a deal Pete was?
Or not really mean much to you? In like the late eighties also the
early nineties. Do you think the longer you've been the character, the more
you sort of dawned on you, Wow, this this is a monumental character.
Well, yes, it definitely percolated over the years. I you know,
the thing is it was kind of similar with what happened with Poo.
Pete hadn't been around in a good long while. And when he was around,
he was kind of doing on one offs and he was you know,
like the cartoon before the movie or you know, the occasional I think they
did one or two shorts, you know, prior to and then we came
back in with the Three musket Mouseketeers Musketeers, and Pete played the villain in
that. And you know that that natural synergy or whatever you want to call
it, the chemistry between Pete and the gang, and be it Donald Duck
or Mickey Mouse or Goofy, you know, he was always there to provide
the friction and uh and it was just a natural, natural thing. And
I don't know that he had been around a lot, maybe one or two
uh maybe a Halloween special perhaps prior to goof trip and then boom, goof
he was the same. He hadn't been really you know that much for a
while, that's right. Yeah, well he just did the shorts. Yeah,
a couple of like specials or Christmas special or something like that, but
nothing on that goof Troop. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. In fact,
the one Christmas special we did do with Pete, and this is when
Pete was dark brown. He was like a dark chocolate brown. He wasn't
even black then, and he was a Christmas tree salesman and he was trying
to hose down Goofy to buy this terrible tree. Oh, you'll just have
to rent it and buy it. But it's a it's a pretty good actually,
yeah, and it's coming up on Christmas. Yeah, so watch that
show and let us know what you think. Surely you couldn't have had any
idea just how much work you were going to get out of this role of
Pete, right, because Pete hadn't really been in all that much for a
while. But he's just he's become like the most recurring villain in Disney now
really over the last thirty years. Well, yeah, there's a fairly popular
video game or computer game series, Kingdom partamts yep, and he's he's featured
rather prominently in that he's like his second I don't know, second in command
villain if you will. You know, Maleficent from Sleeping Beauty is the evil
queen and he is her fierce minion. So Pete's been around, yeah,
and I don't know the year. I would think it would have to be
the twenties, right when he first premiered, when he first debuted. Yeah,
yeah, had to be. Yeah, he's coming. I think he's
like three years off of being what's it called when you're what thee hundred years?
When you're public domain? Would he become public domain? Now? Is
that how it works? Even if Disney know, because Disney didn't have to
buy him, he was Disney's Yeah, you know, it's like Mickey Mouse,
like Pooh and Tigger. They they were acquired, you know, nobody
from Disney from a Miln. Yeah, so how was the So how's Winny
of the Pooh public domain and Pete won't be? Then? Well, they
bought it for X amount of like one hundred years I think, wasn't it
maybe, But Winnie the po the original series is now public domain. Yeah,
it's because it wasn't created by Disney. Okay, So with the character,
because he's not just a villain in like Kingdom Hearts. He's a villain
in like The Mickey and the Roads to Races, like the Kids shows,
and oh yeah it was. It was the villain in the Chippendale film.
So there's all these different versions of Pete as a villain. Oh yeah,
it's a pretty diverse character, really, isn't he Absolutely? Well, you
know in the Mickey the Roads to Racers, when they would go racing all
around the world, you know, there would be a Natalian the Pete,
Mick the mouse, how are you doing? You know? And then and
it was and then they'd go to France and there'd be a Frenchman, Well,
mickuer I cansider that to your error trying to win this rash, you
know, and it was still just Pete being in Pete and uh and I'm
gonna run out of accents here. Wait. That's fascinating to me. So
what's the what's the what's the approach that you take when you have to do
a character voice in accent? Well, I don't know. Now I'll never
be able to do it again, thanks Chris. He has to do the
hand, he's doing the hand. Well, the first thing you do should
start talking like Pete. And the next thing you know, you're over there
in Ireland and you're in Dublin and you're walking down the street. And I
think that's how you do it. That's incredible to me, that's incredible.
Well I need to hear I need to hear an Australian pate. Can you
do an Australian pate? Well, now hold on their pal all just half
to sigh, give me a strike, give you It kind of comes out
he turns into Monterey Jack. I think Gidget, you know, Pizza a
little more gott incredible watching just Jim sort of doing the voice and you just
see just completely just transform into a different accents. It's amazing to watch.
It's not a pretty sight. So let's go back. So you'd already done
several shows already for Disney Afternoons. I mean, you don't need to poo
as well. And you've done Tailspin Duck Wing Duck, had already been at
this point Chippendale. So when did your first year of goof Troop Boy?
When when somebody wrote it? I think Bob Taylor, I think we should
blame him. The show promily had ninety two. How long before it was
on TV? Do you think was it like an eighteen month to be a
year? Oh? Yeah, always at least a year from yeah, if
not more, you know, I would say fifteen months would be a better
bet, like recording first day to sitting on the couch. Yeah, it's
got to be over a year, like fifteen months safe, bet. I'm
always intrigued. So basically, you're working on all these Disney afternoon shows and
do they just sort of come up to you and go, We've got another
idea or is it a case of if you just have to waite to your
agent pitch or something to you. Well, they send out the sides,
they send out the plots, the character breakdowns to every agency you know,
and then that agent goes all right, oh, you might be good at
this, you might be good at that, you might get that, and
they just pass it around and then they cast the show. They writers that
start writing, and they all get to know each other. It's like we
were saying earlier, the pilot episode quote unquote is probably the tenth or twelfth
one that we recorded, because they had to kind of get to know the
writers, got to know the characters, as the actors as their characters,
and they can kind of weave it in together and make it a little more
cohesive. Well, I have a question for you. I mean, we've
kind of been doing these episodes, you know, of the Deep Dives,
kind of in chronological order, you know, with the Disney Afternoon getting more
and more recent by this point. This is one of the newer episodes,
I mean, newer series excuse me, that you were involved in by this
time. You know, we talked about this on the Rescue Rangers episode.
They're kind of reusing the same voice actors over and over when a new series
comes out. Did you have a good idea that like, Okay, I'm
gonna be in this one, or I'm gonna have a big shot to get
this one. Well, you know, I don't think that they It didn't
quite work like that. I mean I had to do the same auditions as
everybody else did, of course, you know, but everybody they already knew
how should I put it? I know that I was cast for this role
or that role, or this role or that role because on this show there
are gonna be two male men and a race car driver, and so we're
gonna we got Cummings to take at least half of that out of our you
know, and so you're hired for this character. But since these this character
floats in floats out there, there were characters that would do that in like
even in Bonkers, Frank Welker was fall Apart Rabbit, Well he was in
every third episode, but it was in every episode anyway, because it was
playing another character. And it's like with me and Chimpindale's Rescue Rangers and fat
Cat and Professor Nimno so and you know obviously Monterey Jack with me and Peter
Cullen and so I think they I mean, it wasn't. Although Jim Megon,
my buddy, he made a joke one time when I was visiting Disney
TV Animation and we're walking down and we're like halfway through how many how many
were shows on Disney Animated ten eight or all together like Dark, Wing,
Tailspin individual titles. Anyway, we're like halfway through, and he jokingly said,
oh, by the way, everybody, everybody look over here, this
is my friend, Jim Cummings. He's going to be in every show.
Did we ever do just every series, every every episode of every series?
Uh, Jimp Cummings, what else. I think that's it. Anyway,
get back to work and everybody's clapped and we all high fived and it was
just silly and then we all they went back to work apparently, and so
today because Chris is right, because you were saying you you all auditioned for
the same roles all the time. But yeah, they picked the same people
all the time. So surely, like Chris, you have to agree.
Surely they had the same people in mind when they were writing these characters.
Right. Well, I think it's like we talked about on the last the
last deep dive that we did on the Rescue Rangers deep dive. From an
investment standpoint from Disney, you know, like they're investing what did we say,
there was like twenty three million dollars invested in Rescue Rangers or something like
that. And from an investment standpoint, and if you know, show business
is just as much as much business as it is show oh yeah, So
from an investor's side, I mean, you know, why not go with
the with the talent that we know that can deliver. Yeah, And I
think that's one of the reasons why they keep recycling the same voices over and
over because it's a safe bet. Yeah, you want to head your bet,
that's for sure, because you know the money you're wasting or not wasting
is the same. If it's a sure thing or if it's a flop,
still cost They still cost the same. Yeah, you're right, though,
Chris, this was one of the last ones, and Bunkers was the one
after this. I'm pretty sure there went many after Bunkers? Was Jim?
Was there a reason that they just sort of just ended the Disney Afternoons sort
of concept because they seem to be going so well. It was all Disney
was backing, They're putting so much money behind it, and then there was
just sort of like none for a while. Yeah. Well, I know
that the fact that they bought ABC figured into it, because here in Los
Angeles it was on an independent station. It's a Channel KT. I forget
what it is, but it's a Channel nine. You know, it's not
ABC or HBO, It's not you know, one of the big networks.
So I think that might have had something to do with it. You know,
they bought ABC and they can't even and they have to feed some other
network. You know that they don't yeah, the grillions from I mean,
you know, there's only two reasons things happen, love and money, and
it wasn't love. This might have been money. I think it's interesting too
that just that we're on the subject of, like business talks is you know,
we're talking about, you know, cinematic universes these days, and how
Disney has acquired you know, Marvel and the Star Wars franchise and everything like
that, and in a way, you know, Pete the character was kind
of in his own cinematic universe, crossing over between all these different cartoon shows
even to this day, you know, and not just tave A Shaw's movies,
video games, everything, absolutely, absolutely, And you just got to
imagine if if the cinematic universe was a thing back in nearly nineties, all
these shows would have been crossing over all the time. Feels like a waste
of opportunity when you look back now thirty years later, but it would have
been nice and cool to have seen all these characters sort of living in the
same universe. Yeah. I got a kick out of that big, long
one hundred year celebration show. Yeah, it was hard to Actually, that
makes me think of another question for you, Jim is when you voice the
same character for different series, do you have a different approach to it?
Yes and no, because we did. You know, during during the goof
Troupe Times, Pete was the Wisenheimer, a bit of a bully, and
definitely he was in the shorts, you know, big Wisenheimer and definitely a
bully. And when we started in on Mickey Gosh, Mickey Mouse at Funhouse
Mickey and we did like four Mickey in the Roads to Racers, Mickey's Funhouse,
Mickey's you know, popsicle stand, Yeah, kit shows and you had
to dial them back. In fact, I remember, I don't know if
I spoke on this before, but I just come out there not say what
are you doing during your crazy Mouse get over here? And they'd go,
okay, this is for four year olds, say hey, what you're doing
over there? Mickey? You know, and and so calm him down.
You know, he's not he wasn't the bully. The guy that threw it,
kicked it Mickey off of a speeding train. You know, we can't
do that in this cartoon. So you know, all these different considerations and
you know, and they're tailing it to the audience which understandable. It's funny
how times change, though, because goof Trip was for the same audience,
but you didn't have the dollar back for that. Pete. Yeah, well
that was also thirty years ago. Kids get scared. Now he's yelling at
me. He's yelling, he being so mean. But so you had so
you land the role of Pate. Did you audition? Obviously Bill already had
the role of Goofy that was already set in stone. Did you audition for
me? It wasn't really anyone to really audition four on this show, was
there when he comes to the mains the main cast? It was just Pete
or nothing for you? Really? Yeah? Correct. I had my heart
set on being Peg but it didn't work. No, I mean I had
dabbled around with Pete and you know, he was kind of in my wheelhouse.
And did you know much about it, Pete before auditioning for the role.
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean everybody did you know? I would
watch the not the Disney Afternoon but all the Disney Uh the world is aka
Roussel Love Color from when I was five, you know, and Davy Crockett
was on and Johnny Tremaine and I never missed one of them, because then
they'd always have a lot of times they would have they have a Mickey Mouse
short and Pete would come in there and be the guest goober or you know,
Pete and Goofy would be in something and and so I had a handle
on him. You know, I was aware of him. I knew who
he was. But like I said, he was always a tough guy.
It was always mean. You know, I'm the kind of gentler Pete.
I'm solad I. You've said in the past that when you're doing a voice
like that that's already been voiced in the past, you try to not copy
but be as close to the visional as possible. But with this Pete though,
this was a different version of Pete that we hadn't seen before. So
did you feel like there was more freedom to sort of give it your own
spin? Yeah, yeah, for sure, thank you, because at really
Pete was one trick pony prior to this, like in the forties, fifties,
name it, he was the guy, look you bell you, I'm
gonna clubb or you see, and that's it. That's pretty much. Yet
Pete was showing up. Mickey was either going to take a licking or you
know, stop him cold, or you know, Goofy was in trouble.
You know, Donald forget about it, and so you knew that something was
up. But when when we moved it over to a series, he can't
walk around with a baseball bat trying to knock off Mickey's head or Goofy's head,
you know, for twenty two minutes per show. So they had to
turn him into a family man. And now he's a big giant cat with
a cute little dog and cat of his own, don't ask, uh and
go figure, and he's a you know, he's got a cute little daughter
and annoying little kid and a scalding hot wife talking about you. Well,
Pete, Pete and me. Yes, the answer to that is yes.
Wait, just to kind of go off the rails here. As a kid,
I was very attracted to Peg and I'm sure there was other kids out
there that had the same thing. It was kind of like a jeser k
rabbit deal. Have you heard that in the in people coming up to you?
No? But I well I could see it. Oh yeah, I
can definitely see it. And uh, you know, for that matter,
he and Bonkers, they both had really cute girlfriends and uh and Nancy.
Wow. Nancy Cartwright was my daughter at with April Winchell and she was Fon
Deer for Bunker's Deep Abcat and she played Fon Deer, the the cute little
starlet, and she was It was as cute as can be. You were
somewhat of a ladies man when he came to the Disney afternoon shows, weren't
you? Apparently so? Yeah, dark Wing duc absolutely morgana Ma Coobber played
an animated show. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I know not
many. Was that was that unique? When it came to the chemistry with
well, no, it was unique. We just well we had to because
she was pregnant. We had to, you know. No, she was
pregnant with Nancy kraut Raight. No, oh god, that's reminded me of
a terrible dirty joke that I can't tell what it had to well, because
it's it's a dirty joke. And then the psychiatrist said to Mickey, no,
I didn't say that. I said she's goofy. Just my tyson voice
will be all fine, Yeah, never mind. No, Mike can get
away with a lot, but I'm not him that the joke might ruin a
lot of childhood somebobe. We should leave it, Yes, yes, starting
on mine. How we get paid? She's hot, that's right, Yeah,
there you go. But but but like with SO with April, So
you had a great chemistry there with April, with with pe here, do
you think because of the chemistry here that just evolved and is the racing sort
of ended up married again on Bunkers. I thought it was because we were
both so irresistibly talented that we're the only people for the job. But but
it could have been could have been the fact that it's like, well they
already knew each other. Okay, you know that's fine with me either way.
I'm fine, and you know, the checks have cleared at this point,
so very happy. Just while we're on the topic of just marriage.
And one thing that fascinates me about about goof Troop is the fact that it
was pitched and end up became a becoming a show about a single father.
You know, that's not really a popular trope at the time in the early
nineties for an animated or live action was Doc Wing? Dock he was he
was a single father? Was he not? Dock Wing? That's true?
That's true. Yeah, oh that's true. I'm good at that. But
he was a duck. As I was saying in the commentary, because of
the setting, felt more realistic, didn't it, even though there was still
these you know, dogs and cats and whatnot, and there's all these crazies
happening in suburbia. Well yeah, I was a suburban right, Yeah,
it felt more real what Chris was saying, Yeah, the single father set
up. What was your reaction to that when you first read it? Who
me? Heck, I thought it was I thought it was cool because I
got to work with April, you know, she was great, And I
thought it was an interesting take because it helped de purely villainize Pete. You
know, if he's a family man and he's got this little four year old
girl running around and his young ten year old son, and and you know,
and his wife was a calming influence to the extent that when she wasn't
yelling at him, and uh so I thought I thought it kind of softened
him, made him a little more readily accessible to everybody, to Pete,
because prior to that, he would just come in and knock over the coffee
table, and you know, chase Mickey or Donald or a Goofy all around
the room with the sword or a frying pan or do whatever try to throw
him off the cliff. But this time he had to come up and show
up and have some opinions, and he had to get up and go to
work or something that people don't usually do in cartoons. That's true. Yeah,
So it was kind of cool. You're right though, because we just
watched that pilot and it's very wacky and cartoon you all the shenanigans that Pete's
getting out to try and stop Goofy. If he was just this single gray
living next door, just this grumpy old man, be very unlikable. But
having him married with a daughter, it just makes him far more grounded,
doesn't It makes it, yes, feel less super villainy and more just like
a grumpy man. Yeah right, And I think that's what they needed from
him in this show too. You know, they didn't need, you know,
a guy coming in on a spaceship or a you know, a fighter
pilot coming in to zap everybody. It just needed a sufficient thorn in the
side. And you know, as we've seen, the funny part of it
is is he's there to give friction in a sense to Goofy, and he
kind of gets his butt kicked on a regular basis. He's not good at
it. He's you know, Goofy kind of gets the edge on him.
I think it's very important that Peg wears the pants in the relationship as well,
because as grumpy and as loud as he is and as angry as he
is, at the end of the day, Peg still runs the house and
she's not intimidated by him. She just tells him what's what and he goes,
yes, ma'am, yeah, yeah, Well she's smarter than him and
he knows it, and he's smart enough to know it. Yes, So
I can relate. When I was watching goof Troop, I was getting similar
vibes to did you guys like Chris, did you ever watch the show Dinosaurs
Jim Henson Dinosaurs of Elsinclair? I I was getting Elsinclair vibes with Pete and
Fran his wife just the just the grumpy buffoon of a husban who whose wife
is smart, intelligent and clearly wets the pants and the ship that the ship
would not work. We would not sail without the wife there. But he
likes to think that he runs a show when really it's peg here. Same
with Pete. Yeah, I agree, but we're touching on earlier with Goofy
though we don't know whether if it was a missus Goofy? Was that ever?
Did you ever ask that question when they were pitching the show, like,
how does Goofy have a son? Look when they said Goofy's got a
son, Max? Did you ever go how wide? Was there ever a
backstory that they were considering implementing to the show about an ex wife or whatever,
but they decided not to? What was the idea there? You know,
I remember bringing it up, bringing it up once. I said,
yeah, is his ex wife ever? Is she with us anymore? Is
she going to be here? She goes, Nope, nope, she is
not going to be in the show. Oh okay, but what if he
Nope, nope? Too much explain? You know, we have to explain
two darn much when I think the raid. You know, first of all,
who the hell would marry Goofy? So you know, yeah, there's
there's an insurmountable problem. It's a question to bring up because we posted on
this on social media this morning asked for some questions for goof Troop and man
oh man, it seems that every like three out of five people want to
know, why wasn't Peg and Pistol? Why were they not in a Goofy
movie? Now? Do you know why that was? I'd be curious about
that myself. Yeah, what was the reason? Was it just a scheduled
conflict? Was that they didn't want to gain? No? No, there's
no such thing as a schedule. You just record it next week. Yeah,
you know, unless you're you know, Mel Gibson and you're in Canada
or Switzerland for six months or you know what I mean. Yeah, No,
I I don't know. I don't know. And I think it was
because, you know, usually it's just the story dictates and they trim it
down to the conflict's going to be here with this person against that person,
and these two guys are going to be the good guys, these three or
four guys are going to be the bad guys, and then everybody around is
the periphery. And next thing you know, there was no room to sit
around the campfire or go out and grill hot dogs in the backyard with the
gang, with the family, you know, with with with April and and
the rest of them, it's just just ended up not being necessary to tell
that story of that moviem Okay, So, I mean I love the movie,
but it's always just felt like that's the one thing that's held back from
truly feeling like a goof Troop movie was the fact that Pagan Pistol went in
the ship in the film. Are I agree? I just want to speak
briefly looping back to the popularity. Obviously, me and Brendan were huge fans
of the show growing up, and just doing my research, it was kind
of in the the beginning era of releasing VHS tapes, and I think that
might have something to do with it. Do you remember the releases on video
and how that impacted this show? Yeah? I do, And to this
day I'll sign two or three VHS covers of the of those old of the
the movies themselves and and the shows. And I don't know, I because
it was so this was right around then. Well, I think video was
out a little prior to though it was, but I feel like it was
becoming popular in the early nineties, early to mid nineties, espe directive video
sequels and things like that. Yeah, Yeah, that's true. Yeah,
In fact, I think that that has a probably a stronger footprint, you
know, those directive videos because they were Disney almost I think they invented them.
Yeah, I think it was the Latin sequel was the was the favorite
Latin. Yeah, I was gonna say we we did the Whenever they would
take a movie and put it to Cereal, you know, like a on
a put it to strip like they did with The Laddin and lots of other
movies, they would always do like a three or four part intro, like
it'd be like the premiere and it would be I don't know, an hour
and a hour and fifteen minutes long, and it was just three episodes cut
up that they were going to introduce the series with anyway, and they spliced
it together and said, no, this is a directed TV movie, wink
wink, And then they'd play that and then two weeks later they'd cut it
back up again and start up the series, and then it was on Cereal
five days a week. So I think they kind of invented that little genre
there. Yeah. And just while we're on the subject of VHS, it
is just a little factoid for the viewers out there. One of the reasons
that Blockbuster and movie rental companies were so popular back then is because the VHS
to buy what would cost in the eighties to early nineties one hundred dollars,
which was I remember the ninety bucks, yes, which was a lot of
money. Yes, And that's why rental industries were so popular back then,
is because people didn't have the money to spend one hundred dollars on a single
movie. And so that's why that business model kind of took off, was
you had to rent because you couldn't afford to buy. You know, five
of your favorite movies is five hundred dollars. Oh yeah, that's the same
with much as movies though, sorry Jim. Not just movies though, but
just even TV shows that'd go Here's a Christmas themed VHS of four Christmas themed
cartoon episodes of Winnie the Poon. They put it on a VHS and charge
you fifty bucks for it. You think we used to pay that much money
for four single episodes of a TV show. It's amazing how the world changed.
Oh yeah, and people complain about seven ninety nine a month for streaming
service. Well, nothing comes out and gets more expensive, that's for sure,
except for cars. So when you so you you audition for Peate.
Was it a similar deal to like, did you get it pretty quickly?
Or was it yet to come back? Yet to come back? Do you
know anyone else who went for the role of pet any notable names? Well,
one fella who it probably wouldn't be wise to say his name, he
had done him once or twice, and thought that that he was in.
He was in, he was in, he was in. And and uh
so, of course, you know, everybody, the usual suspects. We
all go out and we auditioned for this, that and the other thing.
I think the only thing they had nailed down was Bill for Goofy, so
everything else was up up for grabs. And and I went and auditioned,
and I listened to some of the old old uh vhs or whatever it was,
uh it's a Pete. And just went in and auditioned, just like
I do for any other given anything. And they called me up and told
me, well, you got the role of of Pete. And so I
said, okay, you know, tied for first place is the oldest Disney
character or whatever it may be. You just corrected me. But that's cool,
you know, I'll take it. You know, just for our viewers,
who is he tied with for the oldest Disney character. Well, I
guess Oswald rabbit before Mickey was a mouse, was contemporary with him. I'd
have to really look that up, you know what, you guys can look
at um rabbit. Okay, So I don't know if he was Lucky,
but he was Oswald. But he was definitely Oswald, and he wasn't a
mouse, and he had long ears. And when you go to Disneyland,
you'll see in the archives section of you know, whatever the heck that thing
is over there, really articulate, you'll see pictures of him. And if
you google him or just ask your phone or your neighbor, and you're right,
Jim Oswald, the Lucky you'rabbit was the first character created by Disney.
Yeah. Yeah, so see. But I think what they say with Pete
is Pete is the oldest recurring character because Oswad doesn't exist anymore where Pete still
to this day. So when you when you think of characters who still exist
and have been recurring over generations, Pete is the honest and greatly so.
And right, well, that's cool, that's good to know. As we're
touching earlier though, So this is a different version of Pete that we'd never
seen before. Suburban Pete with a wife and a child and you know,
give hiss come back to his life to get a son. So what elements
did you take from previous people and what did you bring it to the character?
You just wondered. You just wanted to just make make sure he sounded
alike, sounded great, you know, like the original, But you had
to defang him. Like I said, it was just you know, I
couldn't keep him angry at the top of his lungs, you know, with
when he's talking to his four year old or whatever. So do you think
it was more of the luck? So how do you define the Jim Cummings
Pete compared to the Pete they can before? Just you're not as angry.
No, mine's much much better, just better now, Well, it's just
those same differences. That's it's kind of like the same aspect. It's you
know, he just can't walk walk around mad. That that would be the
Jim Cummings speed. You know, I think mine would be more curmudgeon or
or you know, crumby old man lives at the end of the Street as
opposed to villain. You know, there's a big difference. So that's that's
the way I see it. Something you just said just made me think of
a question. How how long do you have to listen to a previous character
for when you need to mash their voice? Gosh, I think it varies.
It varies, I am, but not long because I'll know, you
know, in three minutes if if I'm gonna come, if I'll end up
being viable, or if it's like no, you know, no, no,
never mind that one, I'll pass. It's just you know, it's
too high, it's too low or whatever or something. But if it's kind
of in my wheelhouse, I'll know it almost right away, you know.
And then if I if I give it a shot. I think I told
you before I thought I was I nailed E or I was so sure I
was a here, but I ended up with pooing tinger, So it was
okay. You know, some would say better, Yeah, I'm one of
them. Yeah, So I don't know. We touched on the commentary.
So this cast, all star cast, this show again without So what was
it like working with Bill for the first time as like as a buddy in
a show. You never really worked with him to this extent. I've never
liked him very He's a great guy. He's a great guy, and his
son's a really good drummer. So see got that going for you. But
no, we've I think we kind of worked together on and off on different
things over the years, but certainly since then. But back then, we
had both just shown up a couple of years before, so there wasn't a
big history to have. You know, he wasn't in the business. And
in fact, I'll tell you where we met. It was at the Roger
Rabbit premiere. And you're both in it, weren't you. Yeah. I
was a bullet number two and I was a I was a pretty good weasel,
pretty prominent weasel. And I wish I had these pictures because there were
pictures of this one big plastic weasel standing in front of Bob Hoskins and he's
covered in gigantic uh gaffer's tape or masking tape or electrical tape. But they
were great, great tape, And and we spent the entire frigging night in
Griffith Park and I'm doing weasel voices. What are you doing there? Anything?
Come on? Over here, you know, and all this stuff,
and there's Bob's and mechas and I'm going, this is my first job.
That's a big, major, most magnet, you know, and so and
of course they threw it all out, so that whole scene. Yeah,
and I all of a sudden I had no weasel lines. But thank god
for bullet number two and that the ways of line. Does it still exist
somewhere that scene? Oh no, yeah, I doubt it. I don't
know why, but if if, if it does, I'll give you ten
bucks for it. But no, that but that's where Bill and I met,
right right there at the premiere yep. And uh and then the rest
is mystery, I guess. Was this film to a recorded similar to like
Doctoring Duck and all the other shows? Were you all in the room together
at the same time? Which one goof troop? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
yeah it was. That was one of my favorite things about it,
you know, having everybody there for the most part, we did, including
Nancy because Nancy would have been very busy with the Simpsons, right, so
did she? Was she always there? Yeah? I mean it's only she's
still doing one show a week there and one show a week here, So
it's not Simpsons. They take a lot longer. Yeah, because they're a
little more you know, have a better budget. Huh yeah exactly. But
I mean even then, No, she was there, she was there.
We're all there. I I kind of like that. I mean I like
that so much more because if you have an organic response and you know that
the person that's responding to is there and has the ability to so it's much
better. Because Goofy was such an established character, like and Bill had him,
like did you was there? Ays like nervousness with like just like having
to live up to you know, Bill his Goofy and Peter's such an iconic
character kind of like we need the Pooh. You said you weren't nervous if
we need the Pooh? But is there a slight I'll know or you just
got to go in to go note this is mine now, like us going
to own this. I They've picked me for a reason, let's do it.
Yeah. I never have that worry. No, I mean I never
have. It's not arrogance assisted but you can't I guess, well, there
you go, Bell, I mean you're not there because they're being charitable exactly,
you know, They've read plenty of people for these roles, plenty.
Yes, you know, you're not denying them anything by giving them you It's
just amazing to think though that, you know, like you're saying, they
so many people auditioned, but they always go back to that core cast.
Just goes to show how much faith Disney had in you guys. I guess
so I'll take it. I'm glad. Yeah, all right, Chris,
should we get into some should we get into some mailbag questions? Do you
think let's do it? All right? Yeah? So we asked lovely people
on Facebook and on Instagram for some questions. I'll start This. One's from
Leo Prince. How is it like to play a more civilized version of Pete
with him having a family and all? This is from lear lia I said
he loved all your interactions with the family in particular. Oh good, well,
thank you, Leo. And yeah, we were just talking about that.
It's kind of nice because it took the onus of Pete, so he
just doesn't have to work around, you know, on nine point nine,
you know, out of ten all the time. He doesn't have to go
apoplectic and just go, you know, have his head blown off with anchor
and this and that, because it you know, it opened mouth to being
a frustrated and I think it was funnier too to have a frustrated guy who's
really not a villain per se in this show, but he's a foil and
as we have just seen, he usually ends up taking more lumps than Goofy.
So I mean, who's doing who? All right, Chris? Your
first question? All right, this is from Chaos Devin on Instagram. On
a scale on once a ten, how are Pete's parenting skills? Oh,
I'd say eight point one? Yeah, right, pretty good dad. What
do you think makes him a good father? Well, you know, he's
certainly a good provider and he almost listens to his kids occasionally. He's a
pretty good husband, you know. He he's very gentle, and he does
all the heavy lifting or he'll hire someone that does. And he's kind of
covering all the bases. I mean, he's not going to get further of
the year, and he may not be running down to be the scout master,
but he'll hire someone to do it, so that's not bad. And
he shows the family some pretty good vacations. I think we've seen that one
little RV that he had that with the upper deck pool. You can't beat
that, And so he's a case. He's he's kind of a Santa Dad
and a good provider and an upstanding citizen and businessman. Want some at saor
T forty? He says, Pete went from a villain to a grouchy neighbor
on this show. His question is do you enjoy voicing him more as a
villainous character like what you get in the Chippendale films, or do you think
a comic relief focused character is more what you prefer. Oh, the comic
belief Yeah, I mean the others are fine in their place, but you
know, you can't, you know, you can't keep that up. That's
not a that's like a one off. That's like the cartoon before the movie,
which is where most of the Pete cartoons lived. But uh, yeah,
I definitely like that, like him in the in the sitcom. That's
basically what it is. It's a sitcom sitting Yeah, yeah, married with
children? All right. Here's another one from Instagram. How many outtakes did
you record for when Pete had his hysterical breakdowns? Oh? Boy, no,
I don't know outtakes. They used every darned syllable. No, I
I don't know, you know, because sometimes you'll get all worked up and
then you'll accidentally I think he cussed. No, I didn't cuss. That's
bullshit, you know, And I'll say something like that and then they go,
okay, we can't use that. We'll all I said, Oh,
I see what you're saying. Sorry, I need to hear Pete saying bullshit
though. Yeah, yeah, well subscribe to Patreon and oh, they're gonna
we're gonna make him pay for that one. Brandon, don't you worry.
You got shit covered to get a I called Cummings Cummings cusses. Oh my
goodness. Just a side note, that's actually so funny since we've been doing
this podcast, Like so many of the people that we've met, you know,
their their character or the persona that they're known for is often you know,
because we're all people, and so it's so funny to see people just
reacting as their normal self. I mean even when we were at a we
were at a convention last weekend and you were like something completely unrelated from the
line at the convention, and you know, you were dealing with something and
you were like, what the and then this girl starts laughing and then you're
like, oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean for you to hear
that, and she's like, no, it's hilarious. It's just so funny
to hear you say that word always taken off because Jim was sitting on the
chair looking for these headphines forgetting the head fines were in the studio, and
Jim's response was was fuck me, Like well, yeah, yeah, but
I was talking to you, so maybe no, that's not right. Okay,
Well, these guys are making this up in America. Never said a
dirty word in his life, never, brother, that's more bullshit. Yeah
for a question, I think it is right. It is, Yeah,
alright. Kyl Cashion. Carson says, with the voice acting sessions on this
show just as dysfunctional like the characters perceived on the show on the on the
actual show. So with the voice acting sessions as wild as what they appeared
on the actual show. It was controlled chaos, which is what the best
sessions are. But I can tell you one of one of our favorite things.
And if we'll get Bill Farmer on here one fine day and we'll have
this verified and you know, we would sit and it was a Fidelity studios.
It was in North Hollywood, and I don't know if it's still there,
but it was a room that was kind of set up like a rectangle
of microphones but missing the top, you know, because you know, there
was a glass window there we're looking through there. There's a director, Jeny
McSwain, the producers, you know, the writers and everybody, and so
the actors are all inside and we're all there, and for one reason or
another, Nancy was there, of course, Dana Hill, April Winchell,
myself, and maybe Rob Paulson he may well have been there. But we're
all waiting for Bill to come in. And something happened. He had a
flat to I don't know and sorry, sorry, come in, excuse me,
everyb and he came in and she said, all right, well we
can all go in. And he knocked over his microphone stand, his boom
stand. It fell into the one next to it, It fell into the
one that he got. He took out all he took out four stands and
two chairs and heat. All he did was walk in. That's it.
So he's goofy and he's good. And if he was here, and we
have talked about this, so I'm okay with sinking. The sweetest lady ever,
Rucy Taylor. She and Wayne Lwine were marrying Mickey and Minnie Mouse for
many moons and many moons ago, Uh Bill, Gosh, Mickey Minnie Me.
Anyway, We're at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles and it was a
day for you know, special needs kids, and they had telephones set up
with cartoon character pictures and the kids can go up and there were dozens of
kids there. It was it was kind of like the Shriff Smile Club that
I'd been to back in my hometown, and it's you know, kids with
hattie caps or what have you. And they come and they could talk to
their favorite cartoon character, pick up the phone and say hello, Hello,
winned the Boo, Hello, Tigger Hello. And so we we we were
stationed up above the courtyard and it was the darkened windows, so we could
stand there and wave at them and they wouldn't have been able to see us.
And they're certainly not going to be looking up there, and if they
did, they're not going to see Winny of the Poo. They're going to
see some guy in a T shirt standing up there, so we're pretty safe.
And Bill comes up and he gets his and we're all sitting around.
There's little cuffe tables with it. And Bill gets up and he grabs a
phone, and bless his heart, he walks right in to a jet black
screen. It's off stage, and it engulfs him, just like it would
have if had Goofy walked into the room and and he and he spins around
and he cocoons himself in there and goes oha. Then he falls over backwards,
pulls the phone out of the wall, and Rusy Taylor God rest her
so Mini mouse she almost peeded. I'm pretty sure she had to run through
it. She says, Billy, you gotta stop it. You're gonna kill
me one of these days. She goes, And he did that. He
didn't do that on purpose. It looked like he did, but no,
it looked like Goofy. It looked just like Goofy. And I was thinking,
man, oh man, that this guy. He's a character actor.
He's a method a method actor, a character method actor. And we've had
some fun reminiscent with that over the years. I'll see if I can get
him to replicate that on some future podcast. Maybe he did an audition for
the voice. He just walked in and kno over. Yeah, oh there
he goes. How bad can he be? It would definitely get Bill on
the shot at some point. Oh yeah, we will, you know,
fun times. This one's from Zan eight O seven eight nine. What is
the funniest moment you had during your recording session with Rob Paulson. I kind
of see a father son slip up with some good jokes occurring. Oh gosh,
probably just Rob and I telling dirty jokes back and forth about you know,
his little Susie cream Cheese next door. I don't know. I don't
know, but I've worked with Rob so many times that you know, all
of our sessions have you know, descended into chaos in one form or another.
Yeah, so, but yeah, like father like, huh, I'm
just by little Susie cream Chase next door. Yeah. Yeah, Well,
I don't know. I don't know if it doesn't for anybody else. But
his voice is PJ and he has a very similar voice as I Forget Carl
and Jimmy Neutron Carl. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, and it makes
me sad for some reason. It's such like a it's such a defeated voice.
It kind of makes me sad girl weezer. Yeah, you're right.
Well, you know, I've got my own little mini theory about that,
and I've never spoken with it to Rob. But I you'll notice that that
heroes have always got a certain tone in their voice, and if that was
music, it would be better, bet But and it sounds like an announcement.
It sounds like a prock bam, whereas the bad guys are kind of
snaking around in there in a minor key. And that's why again, that's
like but you and you know that that's not going to be There are no
ballerinas in this scene, you know, you know it's a it's like whenever.
The first time I noticed it was in a show called The Riflemen,
and it was an old, old, old sixty show, and the theme
song was Boomer Doom Doom boom, didn't doom day do doom doom doom doom.
But whenever the rifleman was in trouble and the bad guys were sneaking around
the barn to kidnap him and get the life, they would play the theme
song. But it was in a minor key boo boo boo, you knew
something was wrong, And the same goes in because I tend to think of
it sing well, singing obviously, but dialogue and everything in a musical terms,
in a rhythmic term. And uh, it's simple. You know,
good news is in a major key. Uh, and and bad news is
really no idea that good of a key. So then what yeah, yeah,
yeah, that's right. Yeah. So where so where is he?
What is that? Yeah? That's right, And he's he's kind of got
that damsel in distress, doesn't he. I mean, I don't know why.
It just makes me like sad, but I hear his voice even when
he's doing twisted tunes in that voice. Yeah, that's like a defeating voice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He has not won a lot of battles,
battles well with dad, with his dad in one show and with Jimmy
Neutron and the other. So yeah, I think how would you explain the
dynamic between Pete and PJ Well bullying bullied? Yeah, domin He's constantly trying
to sort of like impress his dad, isn't he And sort of by the
side he thinks he's not wanting to be oh yeah, yeah, and then
he then he just resigns himself to failure. Well that was when I was
trying to surf. This is when I was trying to you know, blah
blah blah. But he does have some success when it comes to skateboarding.
So yes, he's not a complete mess. We hope. All right,
we'll do a couple more. I've got a question here. This is from
squill on Twitter. What would Goofy and Pete's favorite drink bee to order at
a bar? Well, Pete probably just have a beer just to stand a
beer. Yeah, what Brandon Bee? Are you a beer man, Jim?
I can't see you being I suppose yeah. I like Mexican beers,
not beat Okay, there's a few out there. Goofy's going some sort of
like alcoholic free cocktail, right, Well, he doesn't need any He's he's
yeah, who knows, Yeah, I don't know. I'm going to say
a shaken nut stirred whatever James Bond has, that's what Goofy would have.
I'm sure exactly. Let's see us out. Okay, this one, this
one is a good question. It's a little long, but it's a good
question. This one is by make Pete matter. Oh like a movement?
Wait TT or d D instead of me to Pete two, make Pete matter.
Pete is the original Disney villain, and that ninety eight is the oldest
continuing character in the Disney's one hundred year history. He played a central role
in goof Troop in the Goofy movie, and has appeared in every Mickey Mouse
Show on Disney Junior going on twenty years. He has little to no merchandise
available in the parks, in stores or online. He has no official social
media representation, and just this year was added as a costume character at Disneyland,
but no other parks. Why do you think Disney chooses to ignore Pete's
existence and overlook him in favor of other characters? Wow, you know what,
It never even occurred to me that they were doing this. I'm going
to have to make some bone calls in the morning, no, and then
they'll ignore me professionally though see no answer your quest question. I didn't notice
that. But that's I want now. I want to know there aren't many.
I think there's like Pete like Kingdom Hearts merch but that's about it.
There's no other form of Pete. Really, I think you're right about that.
Yeah? Is it because they love marketing villains now, like marketing villains
is a big thing. So it's not that. It's not because he's a
bad guy. I wonder what it is. Yeah, yeah, it's not
that. Well, they have a show, a show, a shop at
Disneyland, and I think it's just all evil witches, isn't it, Chris
right there when you walk back. Yeah, that's right. They've got to
shop for that, literally all the villains. Yeah, well, Disney Villains
is now a brand like Disney Princesses. Oh yeah, well Pete's the original,
so it is. Yeah, you think they'd be more marketing that.
But I'm sure there's a reason. I agree. Yeah, I don't know
it. I'm sure to keep money out of Jim's poet. That's the reason
I know. It's always something from the Rodney dangerfield of animation. All right,
final one here, bj Riggs wants to know. Can you can we
hear Pete mimic Goofy's famous chuckle will let me see there? Oh yuck?
I actually I used to do that in the show every now and then.
Did I think in the episode we just watched because he was taking Mickey out
of him of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so oh
yuck. Yeah, well gorsh oh yuck. Yeah, that's about Ray.
Yeah and for everybody listening, you can hear that episode on Patreon. Yeah
yeah, Tommy's comment Terry of everything's coming up, goofy the pile. What
we tend to do is we get the pilot episode of these Disney Afternoon shows.
I think we're pretty much run through just about all of them. Now
we're going to start doing other episodes. Right, what's done yet of Orn
the Gummy Bears yet or things like that, But that's true, we haven't
know what we haven't done. There's New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. We
need to do that, as the pilot was out of that show. And
it's funny. I believe the pilot episode that gym is the one you don't
like because it's the one they go to the movies and you didn't like that
story. Yeah, yeah, it was a weird one. Yeah, but
that's okay, that's okay. We'll pretend that we enjoyed it. Yeah,
no, I mean I do enjoy it. I mean, but yeah,
it was my first time out and way back when, and I don't want
to spoiler alert, but it wasn't crazy about my Winning the Pooh back then.
Okay. I mean it took like about eight shows to get going,
and I was like, okay, all right, now, God, that's
interesting. Well we'll dive deeper on that. Yeah, good episode. And
you know, there's been a lot of demand for Jim to go back and
just revisit the New Adventures of Winning the Pool. People want this. I
think we need to somehow work something out in twenty twenty four, are Winning
the Pooh based show revisiting those episodes because I think of all the characters you
do, there's people that connection to Winnie the Pooh. It's just there's something
about it. Mate, there's just people love it. No, you're only
one hundred percent rate, Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, and
then Pooh's coming up after that. Hope you guys enjoyed this little deep dive
here of goof Now, don't worry. We didn't touch too much on a
Goofy movie. That's because we're going to be saving that for another episode.
We're going to do a prop a deep dive of a Goofy movie. And
an extremely goofy movie as well. The director video sequel, which came about
five years after that, wasn't anywhere near successful as that first film, but
I do love a goofy movie, so we're gonna be doing an episode on
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