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Breaking down all the exes. And
oh it's Steve Lavera and Jake and Salmas.

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This is I on the Ball on
Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. Hey,

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welcome back to Ian the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve,

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he's Jay. Now we have Cavilon
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on the Ball breaking news on Fox
Sports fourteen to fifty. All right,

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so we're gonna start with some Arizona
Wildcats transfer news in the wake of the

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Jedfish departure. We spoke about it
a little bit earlier, but Jonah Coleman

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has entered the portal as well as
backup quarterback Brandon Dorman as well. So

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those are the first two dominos fall
and Foster upheaval, and probably the first

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of many. You know, it
just you know, I think, I

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think, as we're all say,
you know, Arizona fans just gonna have

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to get you see, the idea
that everything that got built up over these

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last three years is pretty much going
to be gone. It's gonna and the

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new coach is gonna come in here
and probably start all over again, which

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is again what that's what happens when
Arizona gets to where it got to this

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last season. So it's it's kind
of a resignation thing, but it is

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what it is, and that's who
Arizona is and Arizona probably always will be.

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We do have some more Tucson centric
news. The Tucson Sugar Skulls have

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announced a new twenty twenty four broadcast
schedule and a new partnership with wt s

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MTV. Yeah, that's an online
streaming service. I talked to Kevin Guy

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about to Serli and Luki was con
to let me know that that they had

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signed this contract and that it was
likely that they were going to be coming

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in with their own broadcast team and
that effect is the case. So tw

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need to give you a raise.
Uh yeah, Kevin, what about me?

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Yeah, so Pat Parris and I
will not be doing the Sugar Skills

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games. It's less yes and no. I mean, you know it's the

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games were fun, but it was
working. It ate up some set,

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you know, my Saturday evenings for
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you know, each each year.
But I had fun. I had a

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lot of fun. So am I
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fun, but uh, you know, when I'm out to dinner at some

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place and you know on a Saturday
night that I would have been doing the

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game, or maybe I'll go to
the game as a spectator whatever. You

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can put your your suit in TIWO. Well, I've lost a lot of

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weight, Steve, i' know if
you notice, but my jackets are starting

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to not fibbing. I have from
the partly from the medication that I've been

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that I'm on, you know,
the diabetes medication and I'm on that's that,

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you know. But I'm I'm down. I'm I'm down to almost my

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married weight, which is thirty years
ago. Look at you. I'm not

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in as good as shape as I
was. That it's in different places right,

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but wait, wise I'm I'm down
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miss it a bit because it was
fun. Those games are fun to do.

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But you know, for me,
you know, doing my prep and

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all that, it wasn't all.
You know. I would start on Friday

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night and all day Saturday, almost
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the game. So it was a
good day and a half of work for

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every home game. So we do
have some more head coaching stuff to talk

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about. Jim Harbaugh has officially interviewed
for the San Diego but the Los Angeles

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Chargers job. Friday said San Diego
earlier, didn't I you might have.

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I just did for sure. But
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Be a pressure at least that he
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I bet you he takes it.
I bit you he takes it. Yeah,

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and then Dallas will be open soon. Look, this whole weekend was

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unbold. Well, you know,
it's funny because I saw the Chargers announced

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that, you know, because it
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he was interviewing. Then the Chargers
actually put out on social media that Jim

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Harbor had announced. And right after
that I gotta go back and see who

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it was. Somebody, you know, a reporter on social media says,

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is Jim Harbough really considering leaving Michigan? Well, of course he is,

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because you went and interviewed for the
damn job. What are you thinking?

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I mean, that's like the dumbest
tweet I've ever seen. Of course he's

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seriously considering it because he went he
went to San Diego, to LA and

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interviewed for this job. But yes, he's considering leaving and and everybody on

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the planet outside of this guy apparently
thinks that he's going to take an NFL

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job. Yeah, and in indications
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mean, especially with so many vacancies
this offseason. I mean, what better

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year to have a head coach.
San Diego is the place. God,

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Southern California's the place that he's been, you know, because he started his

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head coaching career at the University of
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up in the Bay Area. You
know, do you want to live in

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you know, Southern California or Michigan. You know, go ahead, go

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ahead, we'll talk more about field
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Oh, I was just gonna say
that Caleb Williams has officially declared for the

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draft. There is no shocker there. But he did kind of leave it

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until the twelve times he did so
he did, and there was there's some

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speculation about that. There was some
you know, us listening to some talk

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shows this morning and saying, wait
a minute, we're down to the last

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day and Caleb Williams, the purported
number one pick, has not declared for

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the NFL. What's going on?
You know, because it's come out that

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he said he doesn't want to play
for the Bears. What do you guys

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think? What do you guys make
of that? Kids? These kids think

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they can dictate and back to the
back of the day, you're gonna get

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paid, Just work your ass off
and do the job. And Williams does

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seem to be a type to one
to do things differently, better, for

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better or worse. So this might
just be another one millennials. Yeah,

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I can't have it all that somewhere. Hey, I can't have it all,

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but maybe a number one pick in
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You can have life scenarios. We
do have them. We alluded to

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it earlier with all the top ten
teams losing, but we have a large

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shakeup in the APP twenty five rankings
with Yukon coming in at number one for

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the first time since two thousand and
nine. I saw and Arizona falling,

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falling four spaces down to twelve,
just behind Wisconsin, Memphis and Bailey.

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I pushed it today in the it
Doesn't Really Matter poll. Yeah, there

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was almost twelve. That's where they
started. Who's the top five after Yukon,

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It goes Yukon Purdue, Kansas,
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Tennessee is the first one out at
number six. Okay, guess who's the

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third betting favorite. Arizona still still
look and and you know, I've had

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I've had to walk it for people
off the ledge over the weekend and I'm

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like, guy, you're the you're
the voice of reason. I was the

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voice. Come on, Steve,
I don't lose my mind with basketball like

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I do with football. Tell me
how you had to do that? Well,

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just saying, look, guys,
Arizona is still really good. There's

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still really good. There's still the
team that beat Duke and beat Alabama and

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beat uh Michigan State in Wisconsin.
There's still the team that won all those

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games. They're just not playing very
well right now, you know. And

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it's they've got a lot of time
to get there, to get their act

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back together. I mean. Then
my second point was, and I don't

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know what you'll say to this,
but maybe just maybe, you know,

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our impression of the Pac twelve Conference
as a basketball conference has been shaded or

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jaded by the fact that U.
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so bad. Maybe it's not as
bad as we think you could be you

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could be onto something. Yeah,
we'll see, because they don't look good.

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Maybe three teams make the tournament,
but you could be onto something.

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Which Washington State is not a bad
team. Twelve and five. Yeah,

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and they played out of their mind
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is lost since they since they uh, since they beat Arizona. You know,

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and again, God, as much
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this, maybe AC is not horrible. Yeah, well we'll see when you

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know, well, Arizona'll be back
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games until they go back on the
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that that team changes. So maybe
the league isn't as bad. And I'm

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seeing that. You know, I've
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five pack twelve teams in the really
in the in the playoffs. Who was

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in the tournament? Uh, you
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Washington State and Oregon. Wow,
I'll get I didn't see that on

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maybe three. Fore I would have
guessed three, maybe four. Yeah,

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we'll see as we move forward.
But that's that's a lot of teams.

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So again, you know, the
the PAC twelve's image is always a run.

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I mean, basketball is always around
Arizona in ucl A. Well,

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Ucla is in the last place and
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the Pac twelve is bad because U
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certainly possible. Well, we'll have
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I also did forget to mention that
Jaden DeLaura has committed to Texas State,

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right, and that's a that's a
that's a program that's not been very

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good. But they got a new
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coach. That coach, his name
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I can't remember, I remember,
but he got he got into their

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first bowl game ever this last season. Remember J though that people like us

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make up row was on the wall, and I didn't say he's a candidate.

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I said his name has been thrown
out there state football coaches. GJ.

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Kine. Yeah, Tho's just one
of the guys who have done well

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recently. Let's put those on the
list. Okay, but then I don't

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know if you guys want to get
into the football that went over over the

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weekend, just a little bit,
let's talk about the Cowboys. God,

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dang, yeah, you texted me. See I'm not a fan. That's

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exactly the reason why I'm not a
fanfferent, But everybody in New Mexico is

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a fan because that's what they skip
to. See. It's probably they still

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a state. I think they probably
depression. They're no longer a state.

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We have forty nine states. Because
it was a disaster from the get go.

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That was awful. You know,
it's funny because I started thinking that

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I said the Cowboys could lose to
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I thought, wait a minute,
Wait a minute, green that was way

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too easy for Green Bay. The
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you know, it's twenty seven to
nothing. You know that that pick six

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was like, oh god, yeah, this is bad. And the week

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the day before, Flacco had the
same situation. Yeah he was just giving

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the ball away. But I think
I think the clock struck twelve for joy

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and and and CJ. Stroud Again, I'm soredab. I'm so upset at

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myself because all week long I had
I had Texans and then Steve. I

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let myself get influenced by by all
the all the stuff on Saturday morning,

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every every betting site that I went
to that had you know, previews,

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had had the Browns. There's your
problem. And I took the damn Browns

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and I would have hit the two
team parlay because I also took the Chiefs

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on the money line, I would
have hit it. You and I were

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talking about this in between breaks.
But I had the Texans and the Packers

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this weekend. But I only I
had the Texans because of C. J.

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Stroud. I think he's he's really
good. I think he's a generational

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guy. I think he's one of
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but a lot of success. It
seems like Houston has a guy again.

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Yeah. Yeah, he's really good
and apparently you know, he might

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have a really good coach. You
do me Ryans in his first year.

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I saw on the broadcast they were
talking about how some players consider him a

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captain in addition to being a coach. Just the energy he brings. You

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see it on the sideline. He's
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on some big third down. Did
you see the switching games. Did you

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see the close up interview, the
close up headshot of Jerry Jones giving the

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interview after the game. That guy
either has you know, like he's either

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got Parkinson's or something like that,
or he's so upset. His mouth was

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shaky and he had tears in his
eyes, and he said he could not

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remember a game that made him more
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One of two things. He was
he was so upset that he was on

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the verge of tears, or he's
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a very serious medical condition, because
his mouth was shaking as he was trying

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to talk, and and his his
eyes were full of tears like he was

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about to cry. And I'm like, dang, you know, this is

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a dude who this guy doesn't have
a worry in the world except for them,

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Except for them cowboys. I can't
imagine he keeps Mike McCarthy. There's

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no way, there's just no way. Not actually this disaster. They've won

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more games than most teams in the
last three four years and this is what

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they have to show for it.
Well, but there's no way he left.

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The Packers are six and oer in
Jerry World, that's and they have

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more playoff victories in the Jerry world
than the Cowboy. Yeah, yeah,

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that's crazy. Dak Prescott came out
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the press conference he did, but
he also said that his job should be

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in a question. What do you
guys think about? It is in question?

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It should be. But they've given
they've given him a fortune. Uh,

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of course it should be. I
don't know how many videos came across

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my TikTok feed of Cowboys fans punching
their televisions, ripping them off the walls

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and throwing him in the backyard.
I saw one of a Dak Prescott jersey

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get getting set on fire on a
barbecue grill. I saw him for a

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guy just sat in a corner and
cried, unbelievable stuff. Are you?

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Are you a fan? You have
a team I don't have. I'm from

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I'm just set you. You know, I'm not a sports fan. I

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would like to sleep at night.
I like to keep myself and you're not.

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You're not a team fan. You're
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team fan. Because this I like
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freaking out. And I know a
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the Cowboys, crazy crazy. It
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mean, even as the Packers better, I was kind of shocked at what

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I was watching. Yeah, it
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with which Jordan Love was executing the
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It's funny because somebody posted a thing
about how you know, the country can't

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agree on a lot of things,
but it sure can't agree on the Cowboys

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losing and loving And I'm like,
you know what, I was sitting there.

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I had the Cowboys money line in
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hit, but yet I was loving
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but I was lovely watching the Cowboys
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certainly just knew that all the ESPN's, the Fox News, all this Fox

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Sports, they were going to give
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you know. And I don't like
Stephen A. Smith, but even I

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watched some of his videos that came
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like just wait, just wait,
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All right, We're gonna take a
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Jamino, columnists for PHNX Sports up
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How are you, hey, guys, how you doing. You're off

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some old lines about the the departure
of Jet Fisher. They just can't have

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nice things. Yeah, well you've
seen that Jay's crying because he knows you

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can't. I'm not crying, Steve, He's sobbing. I'm neither sobbing nor

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crying. I'm saying, this is
who we are. I don't like it,

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but this is who Arizona is,
and Arizona always will be right and

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I always has. Yeah, I
mean really no matter. There's there's the

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Jetfish side of things, and they
kind of make sense. He's making a

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lot more money, not a little
more money, a lot more money,

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all right, I get it.
And then there's the fan and players side

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of it. They have every right
to be pissed, disappointed, whatever you

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want to call it. But it's
also just a big slap in the face

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that say, yeah, Arizon,
muh, here's where you are. This

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is your place in the college football
world. And really that's going to be

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that's going to be the message to
almost everybody not in the SEC or the

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Big Ten, right because those two
conferences are going to dominate the money.

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And even though the Big Twelve I
think will be a very respectable football league,

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they they might just end up being
a feeder program to the SEC and

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the Big Ten teams what they already
are. Anthony, there you go,

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they already are. Before this year, you had the in the Big Twelve,

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you have the Oklahoma, you had
the Texas. But the gap is

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just going to get whiter with with
the realignment and all that stuff. Well,

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how about this, Arizona wins the
Alamo Bowl. There's so much promise

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for next year, maybe even the
favorites to win the Big Twelve. Now,

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what do you think about next year? Well, by now, nothing

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because we know nothing. We know
we don't know who the coach is going

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to be, we don't know who's
going to stay. Uh, is there

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a scenario and maybe it's just fantasy
Land where most of the players stay around

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for one more run. Then I
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It'll be one of the favorites of
the Big twelve and and uh, we'll

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see what happens from there. But
there's also a scenario where the roster absolutely

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gets gutted and this is another two
two and a half three year rebuild.

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I don't know. Yeah, and that's

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why that's I mean, that's why
I'm I'm on the uh, I'm on

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team hashtag hired Nanson because from everything, maybe this isn't true, but from

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everything I've heard, he has the
best chance of keeping the key guys around.

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And by key guys, we're talking
fa Fida and McMillan, right,

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stay, just like just like when you're

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putting together a recruiting class, you
got those guys where people want to go

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and play with them, I think
the majority of guys will stick around.

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But again, you're just we're all
speculating. Yeah. The only thing to

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that though is that, uh,
you know, it's been reported that the

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rest of the staff is gone,
with exception of cecil and sure so Nanson.

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You know, the staff that Nansen
worked with here is not going to

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be here. Mhm. But part
of that is, yes, if they

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talk to Nanson, if they think
he's a capable head coach who can lead

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a program, Yeah, of course, like any any guy coming in here,

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he's got to show he's got to
have a plan to put together a

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great assistant coaching staff. Duayne A. Keina if Nansen returns, Duyne Keina

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is likely to stick around and not
go to Texas. The receivers coach may

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stick around and become the offensive coordinator. But you know, you can't lose

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your head coach in mid January and
not expect some pain. But to me,

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this keeps if if that's the move
that keeps the core around, do

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it because Arizona has a chance to
do some really rare special things. If

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that core is still around for one
more year and then whatever happens after that

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will worry at it then. But
I just hate to see them punt on

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a what might be. You know, Jay, these things don't come around

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very long. They don't like perhaps
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in football, and that's you know, I think that's worth preserving. But

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you know what do I know?
I think I think there's some good candidates,

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but I'm not sure there's any other
candidate that keeps the core together.

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So now you're talking timeline. I
mean that's this is critical timeline. Oh

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absolutely, I think you guys,
at some point this week, maybe by

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Wednesday, we'll be talking about the
new head coach, whoever he is.

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Isn't that fascinating that they're probably going
to spend less time interviewing and getting to

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know whoever's going to run this program? Then they would If you were getting

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a new job at you know,
the City of Phoenix or wherever. You

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know, you probably go through two
or three interviews to get that job.

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And yet you're going to go hire
a coach to run a multimillion dollar program.

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You're going to interview them one time
and make a decision. Well you

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know how this works. Well some
of you guys already know. Yeah,

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yeah, So that's that's what I
was gonna say. You know that most

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jobs are open for one specific guy, for a higher or a woman,

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you know, because you already have
the person in mind. And who knows,

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because Keky's taking a lot of heat
the last couple of days because he

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wasn't even around. Well he couldn't, he couldn't be with theres no fall

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of his own, but he still
wasn't around. And either he had a

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he had a name in his pocket
that he was going to pull out if

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this was to happen. But this
happened just like boom. They know,

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they know who Brent Brennan is.
They don't need to, you know,

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need to you know, check in
with him and see where where he's at,

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so to speak. But they know
who he is. Obviously, they

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know who Johnny Nansen is. My
guess is that there's at least some relationships

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with some of the guys who are
talking to and and one of those was

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reportedly just so will Cox of cow. He's a great cause I would have

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I would have no problem. I
would have no problem with justin Wilkom.

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I know people are saying, people
are saying, oh, he hasn't won

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enough at Cal. Okay, you
go win at Colteez, right, you

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go win at Cal. Let's see
how you do. I guarantee you if

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the choice is Brent Brennan, all, I won't say all. A vast

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majority of Arizona fans will just be
up in arms that he's like thirty two

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and thirty six a San Jose State
something like that, right, you know

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how hard it is to win the
San Jose Yeah, it's ridiculous. Yeah,

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Well this is a funny thing to
be together. You know, a

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series of you know, seven win
seasons or whatever. But that is amazing

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for San Jose State. Well,
you guys have been here, you covered

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the team for a long time,
a long time here with you, Uh,

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all of a sudden, not all
of a sudden, forever Arizona fans

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are kevar eaters. They haven't won
enough. Who are you to say this

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exactly exactly that? And that's and
Anthony, you know correct time if you

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agree with this, you know Arizona
fan football fan doesn't really have a realistic

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view of what the Arizona program is. Yes, would you agree with that?

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I think it's I think I'm probably
like one hundred percent on board with

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hot And we saw that just a
couple of years ago when Jetfish made the

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00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:07.039
comment about how like Utah is his
model to build an Arizona program, and

407
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:11.920
everybody was like, Utah, why
do we want to be like Utah.

408
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:17.440
It's like, are you serious?
You would kill Yeah, you would do

409
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:22.240
anything to have the SA and I'll
take I'll take it even another step further.

410
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:27.000
I think a lot of that comes
from lut because Luke came here and

411
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:32.319
did what he did, and for
some reason, fans, you're thinking,

412
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.279
why can't we do that in football? Well you can't. Totally different,

413
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:40.319
completely different things. But but I
think I think there's there's a sense that

414
00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:42.759
if Luke could come and do that
and stay here and make this program one

415
00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:47.079
of the top programs in the country, why can't you do it in football?

416
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:52.759
Tucson's a really cool place. Yeah, different time, different sport,

417
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:57.680
the whole, the whole, different
facilities for so long. Yeah, totally

418
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:03.279
different. But did did the head
coaches here for a long time spoil Arizona

419
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:11.799
fans, whether you're talking Lout or
Tomy or Jerry Kendall or Mike Candre or

420
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:17.000
Frank Book. I mean, guys
who won big and stayed around even when

421
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:22.279
they had other opportunities. That was
great. But in the eighties and nineties

422
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.960
and into the ots or whatever,
the salary gap wasn't so wide. You

423
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.680
know, when Dick told me,
he they say Dick tell me when he

424
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:37.319
turned down Washington in ninety eight.
You know, we're talking the difference between

425
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.160
he was probably getting paid five hundred
thousand as opposed to maybe making a million

426
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:45.720
or whatever at Washington. You know, now we're talking over the course of

427
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:52.319
a contract. Jetfish can make twenty
five million dollars or more from Washington than

428
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:56.440
he would Arizona. That's a huge
difference. And that's just the landscape with

429
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:03.480
college athletics, and in some ways
Arizona than left behind. Well because there's

430
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:10.680
when he is who Arizona is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean

431
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:17.079
in in in football, that's kind
of who Arizona is, like we talked

432
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.279
about, and some of that is
going to be conference affiliation and some of

433
00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:23.799
so some of that is there's nothing
you can do about it because the SEC

434
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:30.440
schools are going to be making twice
what you make as an FLIC department as

435
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:36.200
a program every year, so they
can, they can pay their assistance more,

436
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.680
they can pay the coaches more,
they can they've got a bigger a

437
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:45.039
bigger base for the NIL money.
Which also I'm sure was a huge consideration

438
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:49.799
for Jetfish is that you know,
it's it's easier to get players to Washington

439
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:56.240
because there's more money in that collective
than there is an Arizona. So he's

440
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.480
thinking he can make his life easier
down the road. Sure, and he

441
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.960
doesn't have to chied with the or
convinced the fans there right have to beg

442
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.200
him to come to the game,
right right, So I think back to

443
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.200
your initial thing that Arizona just can't
have nice things. That's the part that

444
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.839
to me, that's as a fan, that's the part that stings more than

445
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.519
any of it. Not not so
much that he left, because you know,

446
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.599
again that's who that's who Arizona is. But here we were, I

447
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.039
mean, I was saying, Arizona, could you know, can win the

448
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.559
league and playing the Rose Bowl if
they get in the right bracket next year,

449
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:32.279
And now it's like, what the
hell. That's the part that I

450
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.519
think as an Arizona fan, you
just you just hate. Yeah, I

451
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:41.160
mean, it's it's it's rare enough
that Arizona has a ten win season and

452
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.720
finishes in the top ten, top
eleven and the Ape Pole. But often

453
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:51.880
you win, at least you went
into the next year with an off season

454
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.759
of feeling good. You often had
the rug pulled out of you, whether

455
00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:00.920
it was the ninety or you know, Larry Smith left after eighty six,

456
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:06.039
right, you know the ninety three
team on the cover of Sporce Illustrated the

457
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.440
next year just kind of felt sure
they didn't have it. The ninety nineteen

458
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:15.000
had opened at Penn State and was
never the same. But this just feels

459
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:22.559
different because you had nine months of
feeling good and high expectations, and if

460
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.440
everything went well, which you thought
it was going to until Nick Favorite retires,

461
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:32.079
this wasn't even a possibility. Yeah, So you had, you had

462
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:38.440
a really nice runway of good things
ahead, and suddenly you just skid it

463
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:42.920
into the river. Now the airport
is closed for a little time being for

464
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.240
repair work. Hey, we got
two minutes. You got two minutes to

465
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:52.720
solve the men's basketball situation. How
do you solve it? How can I

466
00:32:52.759 --> 00:32:57.039
help? I am out of eligibility, so I can't help you there.

467
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.920
How's your shot? You's got to
beter than Coylin Boswell's at this point right

468
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:07.759
now? Maybe, But I mean, what's I think the move is inserting

469
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:14.960
Jayden Bradley into the starting lineup and
seeing how how Boswell responds to the bench

470
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:20.680
personally. I kind of. I
mean, I'm not putting this on Teller

471
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.359
saying he's horrible, not playing well, but I've always liked him better as

472
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:29.440
a six man than a starter,
and he seems he's one of those guys

473
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:34.319
who can certainly handle that role,
because I think more TJ. Lewis isn't

474
00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:37.960
a bad thing either. Yeah,
oh yeah, yeah, So let me

475
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:43.559
ask you off the bench, because
he's like Hella is like four guys and

476
00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.720
one off the bench, So you
need help that point. He can be

477
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:50.480
your guy. You need help at
the four. He's your guy, no

478
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.720
matter how the game is going,
he's your guy. Okay, So now

479
00:33:52.759 --> 00:34:04.799
let me solve the Let me how
you solve the bollow problem. I have

480
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:09.239
no insight into big men, more
crevious, I would assume, Yeah,

481
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:15.679
well, I don't think he's got
limitations to Steve ball has not been Baul

482
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.760
has not been good, and I
would not trust him at the freedom line

483
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:25.639
under any circumstance. Lake. I
don't know. I don't know. I

484
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:30.639
don't know ballows so much. The
problem is as the perimeter and whether that

485
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:35.480
includes l A and and and uh. I think you know, uh,

486
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:37.760
you know they're getting beat out on
the perimeter, not inside. I really

487
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:44.280
think. Oh okay, I'm gonna
mark my my territory that we've got.

488
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.480
We've got too much to figure it
out. Yeah yeah, and then,

489
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:50.400
uh, where are we going for
the first round, Anthony? Where you're

490
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:55.280
driving or I'm driving A day after
the first time? What are we going

491
00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:00.840
back to that night? Okay?
Well a as usual, Thank you very

492
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:01.880
much, thanks for joining us today. All right, Anthony, thanks a

493
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:07.039
bunch man. Be well, all
right you too. Yeah, yeah,

494
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:10.559
we saw nothing there, but it
was good information because as you guys are

495
00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:14.400
big fans, uh, and I
compare you guys with the cowboys for a

496
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.000
long time. You guys don't have
you guys have nice things and then oh

497
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:21.719
sorry, you got to take aback
from you. You get repossessed. That's

498
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:24.039
exactly what's happened with this. Yeah, it's gonna be bad for you,

499
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:29.639
Jay, It's gonna be a bad
offseason because we don't know. I was

500
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:31.440
sound almost excited. No, no, no, I feel I feel very

501
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:36.000
bad because the best time to cover
a team is on the rise, and

502
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.119
we just don't know where we're headed. It may not happen, that may

503
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:49.639
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This is I on the Ball with
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Ballady, Thanks for joining us.
It's I'm the ball here on Fox Sports

549
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fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.
He's Kevin And you know, one of

550
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:15.400
the things Jay, we talked about
last week with the price increase of the

551
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:19.400
of the definite price because they gotta
get out of this messed up to earth.

552
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:23.679
Uh Now, it seemed it seemed
less Uh, it seemed tolerable last

553
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:28.199
week. Now people are gonna be
pissed because they are pissed. I've seen

554
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.760
the stuff they've written. They're not
gonna deep in the deep dig it deep

555
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:35.599
dig dig deep in their pockets.
Right, I'm certain that there are people

556
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.679
who were probably might have been ready
to buy season tickets, so they said

557
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.840
no, now I'm gonna wait again. Right, I'm gonna wait again too,

558
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.800
because that's it. That's whoeverzon a
fan is. As much as they

559
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:49.039
want to bitch about everything going on, right right, you know, they're

560
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:51.760
gonna now they're gonna say, well, I'm not buying season tickets now,

561
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:53.280
I'm gonna wait until it get they
get good again then I'll start buying season.

562
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:57.639
Well along those lines that we brought
up a subject before before and it

563
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:02.039
came on or about about we talk
about how the glory time was now football

564
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:06.960
was this is from last year too. Football was improving, The men's basketball

565
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:08.960
team was doing well, the women's
basketball team was okay, doing okay,

566
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:15.079
back to the nineties, right almost
coming back. The ditch was just around

567
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.880
the corner, right, and then
they turned and they turned down down the

568
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:22.079
street and right into the ditch,
right in the ditch and not what was

569
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.639
the word that you had used,
shambles or what was a disarray? Disarray

570
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:30.119
that may be too strong. Well, you know, I got you know,

571
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:32.800
I got told on text message that
you know, it's in disarray,

572
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.280
and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I mean to a degree. And

573
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:40.159
it was because the Washington State loss. You know, the basketball teams in

574
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.639
disracted. I'm like, well,
the bat I think the basketball team is

575
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.039
gonna be Yeah, the bad basketball
team is gonna be okay. But you

576
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:52.320
know, compared to what the program
as a whole was forty eight hours ago,

577
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.119
Yeah, there's there's some disarray to
it. Now, let's take this

578
00:40:55.199 --> 00:41:00.360
call. Hi, you're on the
AAR and I on the ball, Nico,

579
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:05.360
Nico, you sound upset. I
am, But I knew that you

580
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.840
car salesman was gonna leave. Yeah, we did, right, but but

581
00:41:09.079 --> 00:41:13.599
we didn't think he was gonna leave
like this. Is that That's what I'm

582
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:16.320
thinking. I was like, I
knew he was gonna leave with that video

583
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:20.800
come out? Man, right,
we talked about that. Those are like

584
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:24.239
a gut punch. M Do you
have a clu can walk out to his

585
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:34.599
press conference with a brand new like
husky puppy? What what was your first

586
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:39.559
reaction to it? That was upset? But he did lose the NAU so

587
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:44.320
I figured it out. You've never
forgiven him for that, have you?

588
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:49.880
I never thought in my life I
would see that happen. Yeah, well

589
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.400
it did. And uh and you
know he's gone. So so, Nico,

590
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:58.159
you and your dad have tickets.
I'm assuming your dad pays for the

591
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.480
most tickets. Is he concerned about
the price increase? And would you still

592
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:07.239
have them? He told me yesterday's
gonna be saving some money next year by

593
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:13.400
not that makes total sense. Yeah, but they get Brett Brett Brennan.

594
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:16.960
I think they'll be all right.
What about Johnny Nansen? Be happy?

595
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:22.559
With that and forget that, dude, you got to rebuild, man.

596
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:27.239
Yeah, we'll see. I think
Brendan will stay around for a long time.

597
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:34.679
Would you trust the next guy who
says I'm coming to Arizona and I'm

598
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:39.320
staying for a while, would you
trust that it was Brennan? Yeah?

599
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:43.599
Other than that, probably not,
though it's like this un l V guy

600
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:47.639
know. Okay, yeah, all
right? Well, how's that marriage are

601
00:42:47.639 --> 00:43:00.920
you? Are you almost on virtual
marriage? I don't Thanks for listening to

602
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:05.519
me the subject real fast. Yeah, okay, no, thanks. I

603
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:09.119
think you can't trust until you know. And how many how many years there's

604
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:15.440
for your momentum? How many years
is momentum in college sports? Now?

605
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:17.519
Well, the thing is that the
one thing Arizona fans are tired of is

606
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:23.000
getting their faces kicked in or getting
gut punch. That's been used a lot

607
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:27.880
in the last forty eight Well get
it all the time. Were you there

608
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.119
for for the for the Tommy Lloyd
press conference? And you know, Bruce

609
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:34.960
being Bruce because he was doing a
story on the financial situation? Were you

610
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:37.280
were you in the room? He
asked him, Well, what do you

611
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.000
think about this? Uh? Them
being in trouble of US. Thommy says,

612
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:44.519
I didn't come here for no financial
situation. You know, some for

613
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:47.559
some and they didn't and who knows
what's going to come of it eventually,

614
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:51.119
But you don't want to be part
of that. You're here to coach and

615
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.519
if it affects you at some point
down the road, you don't want to

616
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:58.360
be part of that, don't.
You don't, so and again, and

617
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.719
that's why, that's why it was
bugging me that were saying, oh,

618
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:02.480
you should have gone the day in
contract done, it'll still be here.

619
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:06.960
And I'm like, oh, wait, the contract has nothing to do with

620
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:12.440
the with the UFA's financial situation,
It has nothing to do with right,

621
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.760
So so stop. You know,
if Tommy looked Tommy Lloyd, if a

622
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:22.360
Jedfish had signed the contract Sunday morning
and there was a ten million dollar buyout,

623
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:24.280
Washington was still going to get it, you know. And that's what

624
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:28.559
they're saying. The buyout was in
the contract that had been proposed. It

625
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.880
was ten million bucks. Yes,
did Arizona lose four and a half million

626
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:34.800
because the contract didn't get signed.
Yeah, because they're getting a five and

627
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.440
a half million dollar buyout under the
existing contract. But that the contract was

628
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:43.960
not going to keep Washington from getting
Arizona's coach. And that's that's the thing.

629
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:45.400
But you know, it's funny because
you know, in the morning,

630
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:50.440
when when things started to you started
to hear things that, God, this

631
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.159
might actually happen. You know,
I had a couple of friends, you

632
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:55.199
know, around the country, you
know, saying find something out for me.

633
00:44:55.239 --> 00:45:00.440
See and it was nowhere until it
was on was done. Yeah right,

634
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:04.239
I'll said, All of a sudden, you started hearing this thing's done.

635
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:08.199
He's leaving, and there was no
turning back. Yeah, yeah,

636
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:14.159
right, he was gonna leave,
he was, He's gonna leave. He

637
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.639
just was. You know, the
right thing had to happen, the right

638
00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:21.920
I'd love to hear from Arizona fans, Arizona fan is gonna root for him

639
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:27.400
or not? Oh? You know
where they've got some goodzal the got in

640
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.360
there, man. Okay, Okay, that that's a dumb question. Do

641
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:34.960
you pay attention to what he's doing
up there or do you forget about that

642
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.159
question? Do you forget about him
just or or do you sit there and

643
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:40.920
root against him? No, look
at what they did to Sean. They're

644
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.840
kind of backing Sean A lot of
them. I think, you know,

645
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:49.199
hope that Sean does well. This
one's different because he left on his terms

646
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:51.960
and he said hell with you,
guys. Sean left because they didn't want

647
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.480
him here anymore. It's kind of
totally different here. And I think people

648
00:45:54.519 --> 00:45:58.960
full over the rich rod right.
I don't know. That's probably indifferent.

649
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.440
I don't know. I don't know
they do. I think they do.

650
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:07.840
Hi, you're on the air and
eye on the ball. Hey guys man,

651
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:13.639
what a day for cold football?
Yep? Yep? Where you Where

652
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:19.519
do you sit with this? This
is du Yeah? I think Dan Lanning

653
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:27.280
is shining right now. Why why
do you say that? Well, he's

654
00:46:27.280 --> 00:46:30.159
the one that's told him true,
he's he's the one showing that he is

655
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.440
a long term not chasing the dollars. Yeah, I hear you. Okay,

656
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:37.639
that may that makes sense. What
do you want to see happen here?

657
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:44.000
I feel bad for you guys.
And the thing is jetfish. His

658
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:49.639
tenure is one point three years.
First stop sit here? Three years?

659
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:58.079
You should expected otherwise? What are
you calling from right here in Tucsons?

660
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:02.000
Okay? Are you not a fan? You just know? Observer? Well,

661
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:06.440
my wife works for the u A. So as those deposits keep getting

662
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.039
made more fan because because you said, you guys and there you go,

663
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:15.000
there you go. But uh,
you know, do you know do they

664
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:20.320
what I mean, what would make
you happy? Uh with the outcome of

665
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.639
this? Uh yeah what what you
know? What you guys were talking,

666
00:47:23.719 --> 00:47:28.519
you guys were talking about Justin Wilcox. He's one of those guys that will

667
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.920
stay if you could get him,
he will stay. I took classes with

668
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:37.159
that guy up at u O and
his family, his tradition. He's not

669
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.559
the money chaser. He doesn't need
to be. Yeah, and he'll still

670
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:44.119
get paid pretty well. Yeah,
and I do remember so if you call,

671
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.840
yeah, you know, go ahead, you can. Jeff Fish and

672
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:52.599
he wants to style himself after Utah
and Williamham. Well, no, how

673
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.360
long has Willingham been in Utah?
Yeah? Long? Yeah, that's how

674
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:01.159
that happens. I mean in Oregon. Rich Brooks was there for seventeen years

675
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:07.159
and all of that was Balti for
twenty years. That's how you build a

676
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.960
program. Yeah yeah, So have
you been listening? This is your first

677
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:15.440
time you called in? Right?
No, okay, I've called I've called

678
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:17.880
in to make fun of Jay a
couple of times. Thank you. I

679
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:25.119
appreciate that you deserve it. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure I had

680
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:30.920
it coming. So I don't know, you know, are you a season

681
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:37.159
ticket holder or anything like that.
No, No, I just I enjoyed

682
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:42.679
football, and yeah, I really
enjoyed. Actually, Arizona's rise this year

683
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.639
was well, let me ask you
this, because I've had a couple of

684
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.440
people say this to me, that
they're sick of college football and what it's

685
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:55.159
become really just in the last few
years, you know, to the point

686
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:58.480
of one I'm saying, I'm stopp
being a fan. I'm not going to

687
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:02.559
games anymore because I'm just sick of
how money has taken taking this over and

688
00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:07.960
it's just not fun for me anymore. Where are you on that? Yeah,

689
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:12.440
I could agree with that, I
do, but I think there's a

690
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.639
few out there that that's not what
drives in that. There's a few and

691
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:20.320
far between. I mean, think
about saving how long was he there?

692
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.519
Yeah, yeah, forever, you
know, but he was also the big

693
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:27.360
the big dog. It was easy
for him to stay. Yeah, for

694
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:31.480
the ten million, eleven whatever he
made. Well yeah, yeah, yeah,

695
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:36.039
but not to begin with, I
mean, yeah, Alabama was sanctioned

696
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:37.360
and they were way down when he
came in. It took a while.

697
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.079
It did take a while. Okay, all right, man, thanks,

698
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:45.159
I got what you got. I
got one more thing. Okay, you

699
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:50.039
guys want to solve the U of
a basketball? Yes, don't. Don't

700
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:55.239
play the Ducks because they're going to
beat you twice. Ye, all right?

701
00:49:55.320 --> 00:50:00.159
And you know what, almost almost
I'm rooty for at least a lip

702
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:01.800
because we need to get more teams
in the in the end of the tournament.

703
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:05.480
I hate it when there's like people
are bad mouthing the league and there's

704
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:07.920
like two or three teams in the
tournament. Oregon needs to get in there.

705
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.679
You can almost guarantee though, and
Eugeno will happen absolutely, all right,

706
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.239
man, appreciate the call. Thanks
a bunch. All right, thank

707
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:19.480
you, thank you, thank you. I had something to say, I

708
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.599
can't remember. So so, just
last night Stevie Rocker headed to Montana.

709
00:50:22.639 --> 00:50:25.639
That was a breaking news item as
well. Okay, good for him,

710
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.280
and and we do we have the
Kaden the Caaden kids from GDO was gonna

711
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:35.719
be preferred walk on well, he
said yesterday I saw him an interview on

712
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:38.639
Channel four said he's still playing.
Okay, good for him, you know.

713
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:42.239
I you know, I went on
social media and said, this is

714
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.039
a Scooby right kind of guy.
I saw that. I thought that was

715
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:47.719
I really feel I really feel like
he's But as we were talking, was

716
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.719
that something that came to mind that
I wanted to that I wanted to bring

717
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.000
up and I already forgot what it
was. But you know, this whole

718
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:58.840
idea of you know, I,
let's take this call real quick. It's

719
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:00.800
gotta be the last one. How
you're on the air and I on the

720
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:06.880
balls. Hey, you know,
I always hear Jay saying that where mediocrity,

721
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:09.679
we're a stepping stone program. Totally
agree and understand that. But I'm

722
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.679
just wondering, how do you turn
the corner? Is it ever possible?

723
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.000
Are there any case studies on the
like, what do you do? A

724
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:22.519
serious question? I really just it's
it's well, but think about think about

725
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:24.639
all the college football programs that are
at the top of the at the top

726
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:28.639
of the food chain. There are
all programs who have been there for a

727
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.639
really long time. It's hard to
break in, you know, teams like

728
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.320
Arizona, let's say Missouri, Right, you get in and maybe you're there

729
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:38.000
for a couple of years, but
it cycles out. And so I don't

730
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.440
know that there, I don't know
that there is a way to get in

731
00:51:40.480 --> 00:51:44.639
there and and stay in there.
I mean, think think of it.

732
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:47.039
I mean, think of who the
top programs are. It's Michigan, Ohio

733
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:53.280
State, Penn State, Alabama,
Georgia, USC those those programs have always

734
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:58.559
been there, at least in our
lifetime, right, No new ones have

735
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:01.960
broken in, right. Yeah.
And then the thing is in basketball,

736
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:06.400
it's different than you've got mid majors. You got Butler playing for the national

737
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.519
championship game against Duke. You know, you have Gonzaga that can come up.

738
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:14.159
It's a lot harder in football than
taking well and lude used to say

739
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.960
that in basketball it's easier because you've
only got to get four or five good

740
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:21.480
guys on your team and you and
you can become a power and that it's

741
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.639
not like that in football. The
football is the rich get richer all the

742
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:28.880
time. This is almost by the
way, Steve. But thank you for

743
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.159
taking the call. Appreciate Hey,
we appreciate it. Thank we appreciate you

744
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:34.960
calling here from you. Thank you. Yeah, one of the good guys

745
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.400
I know pretty well. Yeah,
and look Goozig is not doing well.

746
00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:40.960
Ye're out of top. But again
again, you know, going back to

747
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:45.440
the football thing. Though, all
the all the power programs have always been

748
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:49.039
though programs in our lifetime. You're
talking about blue bloods area. There's a

749
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.400
set of very set yeah group,
it's tough to get involved in, tough

750
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:54.840
to get inside there. All right, that was a fast That was a

751
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:59.480
fast show. We'll have more on
this tomorrow, right, guys, We're

752
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.800
gonna bring in on some xuo A
football players, some of these guys that

753
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:07.599
we've been talking to who really loved
what JA was doing. Let's see I

754
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:09.440
they still love let' see if they
still love him. All right, Okay,

755
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:13.039
hey, thanks for being here today
and come back tomorrow because we'll have

756
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:21.440
more of this. You better bring
the chip around to the sad sad chet alone