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All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven
by Victor Kreisler, Dots Geem Brahm.

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It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for

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getting your pawn on. Thanks for
telling a friend. That's how we spread

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the word about the pirate ship.
Steve Sercu in the house looking yarp is

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always the circu blue. I love
it. I love yes, it looks

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good, looks good. Now.
I was gonna ask, but you said

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that you're going back to Florida.
I'm gonna take a little break from work

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next week and a half. Yeah, okay, because I I didn't know

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if you were coming back for the
eclipse. I'm going to miss that.

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You're not. You don't care,
you know you care. For three minutes,

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I'll just close my eyes. Tell
me what it's going to be.

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I'll close my eyes at the beach
for three minutes. It's a huge deal.

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My mom is coming up from downstate
to be here for the closing schools.

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They just got a record. You
can't go see your clients an email

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at the jail. Now this is
the thing. And now I'm so glad

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you're here because we have a couple
of people have emailed in questions or texting

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questions, uh, law questions because
I put it out that you're going to

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be on and uh. But I
did see where some inmates are filing a

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lawsuit because they're saying that for religious
reasons they should be allowed to be outside.

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Because I think one was Muslim,
and Mohammed's son died during an eclipse,

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so this is a time for prayer
and reflection. An atheist was told

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that he could go, but then
there was an edict that came down that

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said between two and five no visitors
and no yard time. Everybody has to

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be in what they call holiday hours. I don't know what holiday holiday hours

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do. They make everybody stay in
in their stay their cells. Okay,

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you put fifty seven inmates out of
the yard and it goes totally dark,

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You're going to have forty second up. The rest are still going to be

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down. Well, I want to
go what I was thinking in my head?

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What could go wrong? What couldn't
go wrong? I mean, there

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could be a lot. When you
go to jail, there are going to

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be restrictions on many of your fundamental
rights. So the idea that that's a

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religious right or yeah, that's I
think that's a ludicrous. Okay, because

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the planets are six men various religious
backgrounds incarcerated at woo Woodburn Correctional Facility,

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once a Baptist, a Muslim,
Seventh day Adventists, two practitioners of Santa

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Ria, and as well as an
atheist. And they say in their their

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case, the solar eclipse is a
rare natural phenomenon with great religious significance to

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many, noting Bible passages, and
on and on they go. And I

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think that the whoever's in charge of
the I guess he's the the acting commissioner

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of the I don't know, jail
departments or something, but he's In a

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memo early March, he said that
correctional facilities will operate on a holiday schedule

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from two to five. Normally you're
outside, you got to be in your

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prison cell. Wow, so they're
gonna go for seven there? Those seven?

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I mean, can I mean,
what do you draw the line?

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Well, I don't know. We've
got an eclipse. It's a harvest moon,

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it's a quarter moon or snow moon. I mean, and how how

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quickly could you have this lawsuit taken, looked at, appealed multiple times?

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Probably if it doesn't go somebody's way. The eclipse is Monday, it's gonna

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be over. I mean, those
they would hear the initial here's quickly,

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and then perhaps a quick appeal to
the appellate court. But I mean,

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look, I don't know that law. I don't practice that law, but

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you would think that there would be
some sort of reasonableness to request because I

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know, I know we're talking about
the Souldar Cliffs. But years ago there

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were lawsuits saying that pornography was a
religion and that the inmates wanted pornography and

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if you denied them that, I
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man, what a great Yeah,
now that happened once in a while.

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I don't know, maybe it'd be
a good thing. It might save

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a few guys, save you guys
from I mean, yeah, the the

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visitors you would get pornography was a
religion. But how about the person who

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has to defend that. Oh yeah, because yeah, so with a straight

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face, and they take that up
they do, Yeah, God, God

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bless them. Could you could you
say I don't want to be on a

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certain case if you worked for the
A C. L U. I don't

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know if you know that or not. I don't. I think that you

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probably could if they're there were some
religious some other constitutionally permissible reasons. But

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other than that, I think no. I mean, they're generally true believers,

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and that it's not it's the cause
that they're fighting for. It could

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be anything. It's anything government a
government back. It's still in some ways

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is true. Okay, but I
think that's funny with the with the pornography

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persons, that would be pretty good. If you do need help with a

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defense attorney, you can always reach
circul law by going to circul law dot

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com or call five A five three
eight five twenty five ten. Now,

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we I did put out there that
you're gonna be on and put a nice

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picture of you up. I was
in the courthouse today and I put a

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picture of you up next to me
and did all this. But I said

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if you had any questions, So
some questions did come in via text,

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and we have a text line at
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six. Can I keep my kid? I don't know if this is one

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you'll be able to answer. So
a lot of these are just kind of

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all over the place in terms of
law. So I'm gonna have a disclaimer

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right now, and that is whatever
I give you is not act for a

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legal advice, okay, is my
opinion, but not as a lawyer necessarily.

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Right, Well, I'll give you'll
take care of it, Okay.

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Can I keep my kids from controlling
their entire inheritance at eighteen? Sure you

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can, absolutely, And how would
you go about doing that? So again,

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not as that's not the area of
law I practice, but that's a

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curguates court matter. And you can
establish trusts with in fact, I'm a

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trustee for somebody who's who as child
right now I think is twenty two,

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and if they should pass, all
the money will go into a trust and

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then that child has to come see
me and I have to approve any and

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all expenses out of the trust and
the true how long does that usually last?

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This one's gonna last to the thirty
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yeah, it gives you a chance
to mature. I mean, man,

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if someone died and I was twenty
five and I got a whole shit

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ton of money, it would be
good off at the time I was twenty

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five through same thing right now with
my mother and the kids. Yeah,

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we're gonna be putting trust together and
all sorts of stuff, and they could

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use it for certain things or certain
things they can't use it for. They

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can't use it for depreciating assets.
They can't use it for this. They

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can't use it for you know,
pornhub subscriptions. I'm easily persuaded, though,

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so the twenty two year old,
you know, with the maybe a

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new car. I'm not going to
label what is the longest case, Steve.

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It's worked my sisters and landlord and
is being counter sued for trying to

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evict a tenant who is not paid
in months, actually for as long as

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the case has been going on,
which is currently eighteen months. Oh gosh,

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that's a long time. I think
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some of my murder investigations lasted a
year, a year as it pertains

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to the actual commission of the crime
and then an ultimate verdict. Yeah,

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about a year? About a year? That grinds you. Yeah, feel

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bad for her sister. Yeah,
I'll tell you what right now. I

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mean, although, and I don't
know what jurisdiction that is. You know,

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I used to and when I was
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that's we're often landlord tenant matters are
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see these landlords. I mean it
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thousand dollars rent. This is back
in the nineties, and the landlords would

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just basically just start crying and say, listen, judge, I don't want

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the money. I'll forgive them.
I just want them out. Yeah,

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And the judge like, oh,
we're gonna let him stand in the thirty

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days, and you know, you
know that that's what gets lost all these

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squatters that are going on. Yeah. See this this is with not being

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able to not have to pack COVID
did, but the squatting stuff is really

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crazy. And I think there was
just a case in I saw the press

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release from the Gates PD just as
the thing. Some guy had come across

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the southern border. He was detained
in twenty twenty three, but then let

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go until his immigration hearing in twenty
twenty five. Wow. I went,

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oh my gosh, So somehow ends
up here and finds a way to builk

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a woman through her Netflix account to
her bank accounts. Somehow connected it and

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uh he called police and as police
were arriving, they see this guy come

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to collect the money. He would
have some scam that he was doing,

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and he was coming to collect the
money. But I went, I didn't

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know that an immigration hearing would be
that backed up. Oh yeah, no,

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I mean four years, sometimes longer
than that. Yeah, And they

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usually get phones from the government so
they can make the calls and they can

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track them. Yeah. Sure.
So my brother in law was a US

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district attorney in Denver for a number
for a number of years and actually left

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because there were threats against his family
and he would go into the jail.

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You get spin on and he's like, no, I'm not doing this.

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I had a couple of those experiences, not as bad as that, but

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the one I probably told you before, but I'll be brief. I was

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once My life was once threatened.
When I was a young prosecutor. I

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was in No, I don't remember
this. Oh yeah, I was in

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city court and Judge Valentino Italian,
half Italian, and there was a gentleman

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who who was in custody for menacing
that means he brandished a weapon long stray

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short, he brandished a hammer,
who was going to hit his mother.

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So they bring the man out of
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We go up to talk about the
case with the judge and the guy

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can hear me. He's four feet
away from him, Like, Judge,

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this guy, this guy, he
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And Judge Valentino very calm, and
I could see him getting as red

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as your sweater. And he goes
step back. So I stepped back and

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he goes gives him like nine months
in jail. So the defendants right next

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to me. We stand right next
to each other, and he says,

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when I get out, I'm gonna
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wife that story. She wouldn't perserk. You gotta quit, you can't do

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this. But the asterisk to the
story was I'm five eight, one hundred

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and seventy five pounds. He was
a jockey at finger Legs. He was

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like five one he was so I
just looked down and I go, you

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might want to bring a few of
your friends. And they whisked them away.

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That's a true story. That's awesome. Somebody said, my mother had

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a delivery person slip on ice in
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Could she be sued for negligence?
Absolutely a liability. Now, there are

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a couple of issues. First of
all, was she unnoticed? Should she

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have known there was ice and somebody
else slipped there before and she was aware

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of it? I mean, premises
liability generally means that the homeowner must have

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some sort of notice or should have
expected that to happen, And that happens

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a lot commercial buildings too. Yeah, slip and fall, right, but

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that's why that's why you see those
yellow cones. Yes, warning, yep,

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it's not because I mean, I'm
sure the commercial business doesn't want you

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to slip, but they also don't
want to be sued for a million dollars.

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And even if they're successful, the
rates go up. Oh yeah,

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yeah, I know. Wow.
Okay. Uh. Somebody else did ask

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what's the best thing for someone to
do when being stopped for suspicion of DWI.

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Do you blow? Do you not
blow? What is the best advice?

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I don't know. That is a
two hour question. It is because

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there's a lot of different variables.
But I will tell you this is that

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you're under no obligation to speak to
the pabation, ask any or answer any

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questions. I respect the police.
I have many friends that are law enforcement.

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My brother, my father, my
grandfather DA is considered in some form

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of law enforcement. But my advice
to people, first of all, don't

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do it just uber. Yes,
don't drink and drive. It simple,

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but you know that's not always feasible, and sometimes knights get away. But

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quite frankly, when you get pulled
over, I wouldn't answer any questions.

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Expect them to take you from the
vehicle, don't struggle with them. If

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it does come down to a time
where they ask you to submit to a

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chemical test of your breath. We
call it the lay people call it a

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breath lieser. We call it a
data master. If you don't submit to

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it, and you refuse, then
the government will in a civil actions for

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a minimum of a year. Can't
drive. There's a conditional license opportunity,

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but that deals with the criminal case. But you know, a lot of

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times, the worst, the toughest
evidence I have to deal with is a

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chemical test because that's going to spit
out a number. Now, the science

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isn't perfect, and the tests are
not always conducted the way they should be,

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and it could lead to spiked tests. So I generally tell people it's

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your first defense, that you know
your body better than anybody else. If

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you think you're gonna blow bigger than
a one to zero or a one to

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one, I would simply refuse.
But again, there are many different variables.

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If you have priors, you could
risk losing your license for life because

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three strikes. You're out here in
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But it's a loaded question. I
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refusal is more often than not the
right way to go. It is,

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but That doesn't mean that's appropriate for
any particular case, but you can

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avoid giving them more evidence in the
form of a big BAC right, okay,

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which is always something you don't want
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one more if you've been accused,
because we say a lot of times your

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ads, if you've been wrongly accused
or accused of crime you didn't knowing we

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commit. What would be the first
thing to do and the only thing I'm

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thinking, until I get to you
or a lawyer, I would think the

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right to remain silent on anything.
So yeah, I mean, if we're

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talking about if you've already been issued
a citation, appearance, take at a

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felony complaint, been arrested, you
know, absolutely seek counsel, call me

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and be happy to help you.
The other thing is don't talk to people

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about it, yeah, because everything
that comes out of your mouth is what

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we call an admission, right,
and you don't you can't police, for

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lack of a better term, or
understand what your message is being perceived as

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right, And so people hear things
what they want to hear. And if

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somebody committed a heinous crime or some
crime and for some reason the police learned

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of a witness who spoke to the
alleged of the person who was arrested.

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That person's perception of what you said
could be mischaracterized. And then that person

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comes into court says, we told
me this, and the only way really

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to refute it is if you testify. And that's not all. He's in

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a client's best interest because that opens
a door to a litany of areas of

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cross examination by very skilled prosecutors.
You don't want that I cross examined as

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a prosecutor. Probably fifty client or
fifty defendants and every one of them a

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slave. That makes me nervous.
I get I'm sweating just hearing that,

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you know, I seriously, that
would make me sweat. You don't want

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to test the fight. Have you
ever had to defend the charges we saw

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today on the wanted list for Greece
police, criminal obstruction of breathing. If

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you had to defend choking, I
have choking a bitch, Wow, I

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would say criminal breathing. Yeah,
that's what I would say. Is this

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not like a ten second? Don't
know what he's doing? All right?

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Now? I went down to the
courthouse. We ask people random, just

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random questions. Things from thicker,
thin crust, pizza, that kind of

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thing. Out of that, you
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the courthouse. So the first person
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Oscar. Oscar was an online gamer
and also as a nine to five.

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Here is Oscar? Well, just
to me, you're just your first name,

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My first name is Oscar? Whatever
one do you even use online?

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What do you use online for?
Carl ja Jay? Yeah? Uh?

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What's heavier? Pound of bricks are? Pound of wicks? Bricks are heavier

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than? Why will people be looking
at the sky in Rochester on Monday because

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it clips? How many stars around
the American flag? Fifty two? Why

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is p Diddy being investigator? All
the controversy around it? Yeah, I

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couldn't really. I can't really answer
that question because all the controversy. Yeah,

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there's a lot of Yeah, I
don't I don't really know if I

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know. And uh, what do
you prefer thin or thick crusts? Thick

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crust? Thick crust? Final question, what are you doing at the courthouse?

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So what do you think Oscar?
Who thinks there's fifty two stars on

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the American flag? Uh? Is
doing it? The at the courthouse.

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I'm gonna say, is going on
jury duty? Jerry, and I would

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pick a thousand Yes, I'm going
I would. I would love a thousand

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oscars, two stars, love it. I'm going weapons charger, weapons charge

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with the call of duty. Well, here we go. What I'm doing

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down at the courthouse is not even
to make a court visit. I just

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came down to visit my baby brother
at the county gym. She's in the

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county jail. Yeah, you have
a hid, yes, I do you

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have a four year old voter Friday? Way? Do you have a four

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year old daughter and the daughter's mom's
in jail? Yes? How long is

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she in for? It should be
released May third? Okay, So she

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was doing and have a party.
So there you go. All right,

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there's Oscar. Oscar was his baby
mom was in jail, and so he

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went to visit her. The jail
visit was a little bit of a curve

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ball because you said, yes,
I did, I did, I did

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that. That would be my second
But that is actually an unfair question.

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Is I think we could we could
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lawyered because Oscar, by the way, she I didn't I didn't want to

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get into anybody. But I think
he would have opened up, but I

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didn't want to. I didn't want
to ask too much. I wouldn't talk

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to you. He said that.
He uh he she was a probation violation

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of some kind, was obstructing his
breathing. I don't know what she was

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doing. All right, here's one
more I got you, Scatina. This

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is Skatina. Uh. What's heavier? Pound of bricks or pound of feathers?

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They both made the same How excited
are you for Monday? For what's

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happening in the sky. I'm excited
to see it. But everybody keeps making,

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you know, a big deal about
it, and so you know,

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you never know what's going to happen. It's a weird, a little eerie

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feeling about it, but that's true. It is. Yeah, I didn't.

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I hope I don't get a feeling
about it. How many stars are

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on the American Flat fifty fifty two? Do you know why fifty? She

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did? He is being investigative,
He's an idiot. There's a lot of

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stories. I really just don't follow
it. I just know, you know,

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maybe it has something to do with
the Tupac and Biggie situation. No

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uh thin or thick crush pizza thick
and what are you doing at the courthouse?

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All right? Now, she was
there. She seems very nice.

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She's kind of got it on the
ball. She knew a pound, but

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she didn't know fifty two stars,
but to know what the other two are.

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But you know, we got to
figure that out. Yes, they

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were missing something. I think Skatina
is down there supporting a friend who has

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a case. Okay, all right. I think she could be at an

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interview, a clerk of some sort
of look for somebody down there. All

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right, my grandson, I got
to say, you're pretty close on that.

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That was really close. I mean, that's definitely support of some guy.

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I think you should get that,
grandson. That's outstanding. That is

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outstanding. Well, you know,
those are such emotional things. I would

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think, you know, going through
there, you see some people. I

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mean, there was a guy just
melting down, Josh yelling into his phone

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the whole way, like all the
way, alcohol down the stairs, back

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out out that atrium. One last
one, Now, this one is interesting

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because at the end when he says
what he did, I'll have questions for

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you, Steve, what's heavier pound
of bricks or cound of feathers? Found

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bricks? Why would people in Rochester
be looking at the sky on Monday.

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I don't know, solar eclips?
How many stars? Fifty? You got

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that right? The investigator over over
some house party or whatever he had going

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on. Sex traffick ain, what
is your favorite sexual position? Favorite sexual

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position? Had to throw them across
missionary missionary? And final question, what

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you're doing at the courthouse? All
right, what is he doing at the

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courthouse? Interesting guy? M hm
m m the fifty stars at the fifty

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stars. Didn't know the heavier you
know, I'm a missionary guy. Embarrassed

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to tell you. Yeah, my
first that was of course, it was

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the bricks that I took that I
had to think about it. That's somebody

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else, somebody else who might may
have vice president in the title of their

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job. Hit me up today,
goes, Maybe you got me on that

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one because I put it out as
a tease with the people that go I

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was, I was, I had
to stop for sex, wasn't it?

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Uh? Well, what is he
doing there? He said, kind of

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kind of gave a little slip about
what he did. Yes, only because

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of that. I'm going to segue
that he was a person appearing in the

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court as a defendant, and I'm
gonna say the young man, damn,

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that is good. I'm gonna say
that he had some sort of appearance on

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a larseny charge. Not nothing too
serious, no violence, just down there,

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maybe ran afoul. That's what I'm
gonna say. Okay, I'm saying

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appearance too, but I'm thinking more
of like a d w I type thing

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because he hasn't driven, hasn't seen
the nine hundred signs on the through.

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That's true. That's true. Okay, here we go. Well, I'm

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coming because I got three got three
home cases open because I was riding their

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bike in the street and I couldn't
do that, So now I got to

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come to court. They got three
cases of cases. Take the ticket it

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three times because of the ass meant
I wasn't trying to let them comes on

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me. Okay, all right,
well, good luck with all that.

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So you're right because it was sort
of a minor infraction. That was a

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good man. That is incredible.
I'm very impressed. Actually I don't know

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why, but I am. Because
people go all over the board on this

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game when we do it. But
yeah, he was just riding dirt bikes,

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which we know is you know,
the unlicensed bikes on the roads and

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how dangerous that can be. But
someone something minor compared to some of the

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other ship that goes out in the
city. And uh yeah, but he

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resistant, so that the resisting So
the what happens there, so when the

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police are authorized to arrest you,
and that's not proof going to be as

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well, just the reasona believe you
did something wrong. If you physically resist,

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that's obviously called resisting arrest, but
if you interfere with that and otherwise

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like run things like that, not
only resisting arrest, it can be something

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called obstructing governmental administration. Those are
misdemeanors. So you know, the ATV

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riding is probably just a violation of
of the law and maybe just a municipal

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law. But once there's some resisting
that that leads to become misdemeanor charges.

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Got you, Yeah, yeah,
it sounds stubborn. Three of them.

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Geez, yeah, maybe the first
time, Hey buddy, you shouldn't drive

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like this. I did. I
couldn't tell if it was all three from

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one incident where he well, I
don't know it was the harassment, the

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loud noise something with the police.
Yeah, yeah, the police sometimes the

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police something. They're very reasonable.
Yeah, and if it's nothing too serious.

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And the resisting I've seen them do
harassment. If you push the police

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officer that's still obstructing our administration,
still resisting arrest, but rather than bang

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you with just to me, we'll
charge you with harassment. Okay, So

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that's a almost like it's almost a
kinder. Absolutely. Look, I've watched

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I can't tell you the body one
cameras that we get to see now are

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amazing. And I've watched thousands of
interactions and I got to say ninety nine

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point five percent of them, if
not more. My experience has been the

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police have been at the very least
professional and more often than not very polite.

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Yeah and nice, and I mean
especially I do a lot of intoxicated

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drivers and people get arrested or in
tusking and the things they too were say

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I'm crawling at it, I want
to get at the guy, and these

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officers just smile and uh and just
just handle the situation as in a professional

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man, which is very good,
Which is very good. We will take

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a moment. I don't know.
If you want to stick around, we

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will have from the athletic Tim Graham
talking about the sort of a shocking trade

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I'll call it today. I mean
a surprise, right for sure? No

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one saw this coming, is I
think back in February, Brandon being the

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GM for the Buffalo Bills, was
talking about Stefan Diggs being their number one

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receiver for the twenty twenty four season. That will not be the case.

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And what has happened to their offense
now because they don't have anybody? And

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how quickly can you bring a rookie
along? And is there enough even cap

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space to get somebody with a little
veteran experience And I gotta try to figure.

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I'm going to look up and see
who they have out there in the

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free agent Yeah cool, Because you're
right, wide receivers routinely do not make

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big impacts. They don't. I
mean, you got the Garrett Wilson's in

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the world, but Keishawn Johnson's back
in the day. But routinely first round

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wide receivers don't don't do much.
I know the Bills have taken a bunch

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of them. Yeah, they have
West Virginia and Zay Jones. I mean,

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ye didn't work. It didn't work? About it? No, I

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think it's with the Jags, right, yeah, there, all right,

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So we'll take a moment. Tim
Graham coming next. Cobblestone on Maine and

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great place to go relax at their
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day. But it's also a great
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this is a busy time of year. A lot of people get married

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in the month of May, so
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Day in May, graduations in May
in June. Depending on college or high

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need a space for a baby shower. Well, Cobblestone on Maine. They

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busy life can get this time of
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right, and you've got the yard
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about the things inside the house that
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and patch the walls in the basement, or maybe paint the room, or

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fix the molding, or that sink
that keeps leaking and has been dripping forever,

409
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and you know you've been asked many
times to fix that. Just call

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MAC five eight five two o two
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ninety two eighteen. They'll take care
of all of it. Leaky fawcett,

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running toilet, paint the wall,
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something bigger. Maybe you've got a
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be nicer, an outdoor kitchen,
an audition on the deck or new deck,

416
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or maybe you've got plans for multiple
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you think Matt can do five eight
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online at Mac of Alltrades dot net. Why It's Over for Stefan Diggs and

419
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:48,319
the Buffalo Bills. Tim Gram is
one of my favorite sports journalists. He

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writes for The Athletic. He's written
for the Buffalo News ESPN dot com.

421
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,960
If you subscribe to The Athletic,
and you should, you can go back

422
00:28:56,079 --> 00:29:02,920
and read his article and interview with
OJ. It was one of my It

423
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:06,640
was just a great read, and
I think you'll really like it. Tim,

424
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,319
how are you. I'm doing great, And thank you for remembering me

425
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:18,920
as being connected to OJ, which
is what I would expect. Actually,

426
00:29:19,079 --> 00:29:22,640
you know, when I landed the
first interview with OJ for the Buffalo News,

427
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and I think it was the first
interview he'd done in fifteen years,

428
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,519
and it was absolutely the first interview
he did after being released from prison.

429
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I knew that it was probably one
of those things that I will be remembered

430
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:41,160
for. So it's the bet I
made well and I didn't think it was

431
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,480
bad when I read it. It
was. I thought it was really well

432
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,680
done because you walked, Oh,
I don't think it was bad. I

433
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,119
don't think it was bad either.
I mean, I'll defend it. The

434
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,559
decision. It was incredibly newsworthy.
But oj is just such. It has

435
00:29:56,599 --> 00:30:00,920
such an his own gravitational pull that
and it was its own. It was

436
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,880
a whole thing, you know.
I had to defend it and I had

437
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:11,319
to rationalize it. And the second
time I wrote about Ojay, I did

438
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,160
not look at the comments once I
posted the story and then you guys have

439
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:19,920
at it. It was kind of
my attitude. Well, but here's the

440
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:25,759
thing. Anytime that guy shows up
in Buffalo, tim it's like there's a

441
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,880
parade for him. People are cheering
and hugging him and taking pictures with him.

442
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:33,160
And even in the article, if
I recall, he said to you,

443
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I think a lot of people would
love to have my life. That

444
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,519
was Yeah, that was the That
was the one in the Athletic. That's

445
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:47,200
right. We did it over by
the way I'm derailed already, but I

446
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:52,279
love this conversation. But we sat
down at breakfast and he'd been out the

447
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:57,400
night before because it was the day
or it was the weekend of his seventieth

448
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:02,319
birthday, so he had had a
part. And I'm interviewing him and he's

449
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:04,480
not hungover or anything, but he
did have I think he'd had a few

450
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:08,559
drinks the night before. So he
decides that at breakfast he's going to have

451
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:15,119
a bloody Mary. And I'm thinking
to myself, how could I couldn't have

452
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,599
keyed this up any better? And
then so I think the lead to my

453
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,359
story was something like, you know
he was he was well into his second

454
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,720
or third bloody Mary when he started
when he started contemplating, you know how

455
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:32,160
he'll be remembered, and it went
from there. Yeah, it's got to

456
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,119
be almost surreal to watch people around. Like I've always said, I'm very

457
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:42,359
torn about OJ because I am guilty
of playing a lot of watch your words

458
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,359
there. But his tweets when he
goes out, he goes hello Twitter,

459
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,119
Will I'll play that because I do
find first of all, when he's talking

460
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,839
football stuff, it's very knowledgeable that
that is you can't dispute that he knows

461
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,160
his football, and I have had
I've had conversations with him, and I've

462
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,079
also been in conversations where I've maybe
not been a participant in the conversation,

463
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,720
but I'm listening and it is and
it's not just what he's seeing. He'll

464
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:13,400
say something and then a week later
or a two weeks or two weeks later,

465
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,960
you're watching the games, and sure
enough it's happening. Yeah, he's,

466
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,759
he's he's not just just because he
played in the in the double bar

467
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,279
face mask era, a lot of
guys lose touch for some reason. He

468
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,240
sees the game. Uh. Now
that's not to say that, you know,

469
00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:34,559
you want to start a podcast with
it. I don't, but you're

470
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,640
right, he's or me for that
matter, which I may or may not

471
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,920
have been offered the opportunity, but
well, whoa, you were offered opportunity

472
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,319
to do an OJ podcast. I
was years ago. Yeah, I've never

473
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:51,880
I've never publicly said that, but
it is true. Well, and there's

474
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,279
very comfortable with you. Well he
did, and that's you know, it's

475
00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:01,759
an interesting it's an interesting thing because
it's complicated. But as a journalist,

476
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:07,480
I take that as an honor,
not OJ Simpson or anyone, whether it

477
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,119
would be the President of the United
States. But after the first interview,

478
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,279
which is how I got the second
interview, and I think I've probably interviewed

479
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:19,200
him six or seven times since then, is that he felt that I treated

480
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:24,799
him fairly, uh, and that
I earned his trust and so not well

481
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,839
for whatever that means. But that's
my job as a journalist, is to

482
00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:32,640
be a listener and to be a
conduit and to be able to fairly portray

483
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,119
things. And I'd never pulled up
pulled punches. I mean, I wrote

484
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,759
about what he was accused of,
the brutality of it. I've interviewed other

485
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,799
people who've said, you know,
this guy definitely did it, and how

486
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,880
could you, you know, split
your wife's throat, and you know I

487
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,039
didn't. I don't ignore anything.
And then to have him, you know,

488
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,960
a two days later, maybe through
his manager, I hear, yeah,

489
00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:58,640
OJ thought you treated him pretty fairly. I'm like, okay, yeah,

490
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000
yeah, I always he's got the
same impression, though it was very

491
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:06,279
just matter if these are the facts, right, these are the facts of

492
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:12,280
what we know. And that was
that, and it's newsworthy whenever somebody with

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00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,519
that type of complicated legacy, whether
you love him or hate him, and

494
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,159
probably more people hate him than love
him, but it's still fascinating and I

495
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,920
think worthwhile to find out what people
like this think. Yes, you don't

496
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,199
have to. I'm not promoting it. I'm not. I'm not saying or

497
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,480
advocating, but it's like, hey, this is what one of the more

498
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:39,119
diabolical, most infamous people on the
planet thinks, and maybe we can learn

499
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:44,519
something about the human condition and shake
our heads and roll our eyes or whatever

500
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:46,920
you think. But anyways, I
had no idea we were going to talk

501
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,079
about ot right, and I can
talk about you for the talk about him

502
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,960
for the whole segment, you know, like Tim is also I'm pretty sure

503
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,920
you cover boxing for a number of
years. Are you in the Boxing Writers

504
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,719
Association or something you were? I
used to be the president the president.

505
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:07,559
So did you ever sit with Tyson? Because I had an interview with Tyson,

506
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,920
who would be also somebody that people
may refer to as diabolical, and

507
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,760
I'm just curious if you ever talked
I loved talking to Tyson. I've spoken

508
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:22,679
to him many times, but I
have not had an Muhammad Ali also even

509
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,800
you know, I've been uh,
you know, I've had an audience with

510
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,440
Muhammad Ali a couple of times.
You don't at the time, you didn't

511
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,199
necessarily have a conversation with him,
although there was give and take. But

512
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,679
but with Tyson and Ali both always
other people around, you know, too

513
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,599
many other people around for me to
say I interviewed him or we had a

514
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:46,000
meaningful connection like I have had with
you know, the other the other guys

515
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:52,599
of that post prison era, like
yeah, de la Joya and Lennox Lewis

516
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,400
and and those guys. Yeah,
very interesting, all right. So the

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00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,199
real reason that I bothered you today
was this trade that was announced where the

518
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:06,239
Bills agreed to send Stefan Diggs to
the Texans for a twenty twenty five second

519
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,159
round pick, while also sending a
twenty twenty five fifth round pick to the

520
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,440
Texans and a twenty twenty four to
sixth round pick. Now, from a

521
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,039
roster standpoint, it leaves the Bills
pretty thin at wide receiver. To say

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the least Diggs was there, I
would I think you could call them their

523
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:28,800
rocket number one for the last four
seasons. And from a cap perspective,

524
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,440
I think at tacks on an additional
four million onto to the twenty eight million

525
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:37,760
salary cap already. So the question
I keep scratching my head and other people.

526
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:40,599
We had an attorney in here for
the last segment who said, I

527
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:45,079
don't understand why now, why now
trade Digs? Well, I think it

528
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:51,880
was because the Houston Texans were making
an offer that the Bills thought they could

529
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not replicate at the end of another
season. And you know, second round

530
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,519
pick, even though it is a
twenty twenty five second round pick, which

531
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,719
dilutes the value of it. Of
course, you know, a twenty twenty

532
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,639
or a second round pick in twenty
twenty four here in three weeks or whenever

533
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,639
the draft is has way more value
because of the immediacy of it, the

534
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,599
things you can do with it.
It's a player, it's a player who

535
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:17,559
will be on your roster this year. You don't have to wait, you

536
00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:23,400
know, sixteen months before you see
this guy play a game. So there's

537
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:29,519
that part of it. There was
a timing thing in the Bills. They're

538
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:34,519
seeing a player in decline. This
is a declining asset. From a purely

539
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,079
business standpoint. I know it's difficult
or maybe you're not supposed to talk about

540
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:43,400
human beings necessarily, you know,
as lines on a spreadsheet. But you

541
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,440
know, maybe in sports more than
anything else, you can actually do it

542
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:51,239
because well, open any stat packet
or a you know, a website like

543
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,320
Pro Football Reference, and they all
are exactly that. You can take a

544
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,000
look at it. But even with
your naked eye as a Bills fan,

545
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,119
second half the last season, he
was just not quite invisible, but clearly

546
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,039
not the player that he had been. At the beginning of the season.

547
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:10,000
He was a mushroom cloud. When
the season began, he was all galaxy,

548
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:17,400
he was, and then about halfway
through the season the production just dropped

549
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,239
off and the Bills said he wasn't
hurt. He never appeared on the injury

550
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:30,119
report. You know, he was
playing sometimes less snaps in a game than

551
00:38:30,159 --> 00:38:34,159
Trent Sherfield. But the Bills were
winning. They won without him. They

552
00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:37,280
went six and one down the home
stretch, and so I think they saw,

553
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:42,599
like I said, a declining asset
that they can win in spite of,

554
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,800
and so why not move from him? And really it's a combo,

555
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,559
though, Bill, It's not just
the decline, the declining asset part.

556
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:58,480
It is all the little microaggressions that
happened with Stefon Diggs, the tweets from

557
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:02,119
not only him but his brother that
take shots at Buffalo, that take shots

558
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:08,880
at Josh Allen, the sideline blow
ups that happen on occasion, and you're

559
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:15,039
willing to put up with that when
Stefan Diggs is an all Pro caliber player,

560
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,159
but when he is catching three passes
for thirty eight yards or dropping a

561
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,280
pinpoint bomb from fifty five yards away, when it matters the most. I

562
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,000
think the Bills can get to a
point where, you know what, that

563
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:30,800
second round pick sounds pretty good.
Let's just go ahead and take it.

564
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,119
Move on. We're going to eat
this thirty one million dollar cap hit,

565
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,239
which I think really illustrates how willing
they were to move on from Stefan Diggs.

566
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:45,360
I think that they were just tired
of the act and they were tired

567
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:51,440
of just the little things, the
drama. And as a fan, you

568
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,159
can look behind, you can look
past it, you can rationalize it,

569
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,800
but you also get to unplug from
it from usually six days a week and

570
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,280
tune in the game watch Stefon Diggs
perform. But throughout the course of the

571
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,480
week and especially during the off seasons, we still don't know what the big

572
00:40:06,559 --> 00:40:10,679
blow up was last year between me
and the organization, in which Sean McDermott

573
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,159
said he was very concerned that Stefan
Diggs wasn't there for the first day of

574
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,079
mandatory mini camp, or I should
say it not on the field anyway.

575
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,679
There are a lot of things that
we still just don't know the answers to.

576
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,480
And I think the Bills were just
tired of trying to come up with

577
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:30,800
excuses and come up with reasons that
this is just, you know, a

578
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:37,599
guy being competitive and wants to win
so badly. And I think here's another

579
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:39,719
thing of rambling now because hell,
it's all fresh in my mind. But

580
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:45,039
during the season, or heading into
the regular season finale against the Dolphins,

581
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:52,719
I interviewed Devin mccorty, who's an
analyst for NBC Sports. The game was

582
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,960
going to be on NBC Sports.
Devin McCarty's the former safety of the New

583
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,719
England Patriots, won three Super Bowls
and a great player, good guy.

584
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,079
There's another guy in here who's a
fan of the Patriots, just to let

585
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:07,400
you know, but yeah, again, fantastic player. And he said,

586
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:12,480
and the point was, he said
he thinks after watching the film, and

587
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:19,079
it's an educated guy who breaks down
receiver play for his career and played against

588
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:23,000
had he game plans, specifically against
Stefan Diggs a number of times while playing

589
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,599
for the New England Patriots. He
was watching the film of the Bills in

590
00:41:28,639 --> 00:41:31,119
the second half of the season and
said, and I quoted him, he

591
00:41:31,159 --> 00:41:35,840
said it on the record, this
looks like a team with a serious issue

592
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:42,239
in which they're trying to and I'm
paraphrasing, but said they they look like

593
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,280
are trying to prove that they can
they can win without it. They were

594
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:51,000
trying. The Bills are actively telling
Stefan Diggs during the season last year,

595
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,800
go ahead and be Stefan Diggs.
You be you, but we're going to

596
00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,480
do things differently and we don't need
you. And sure enough, they went

597
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:02,440
six and one or seven and two
if you want to include the playoffs,

598
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:06,159
and you could say, yeah,
but boy, seven and two in the

599
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:08,039
playoffs, they didn't win that Super
Bowl. Well, they sure gave him

600
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:12,800
an opportunity to help out in that
game against the Chiefs. And not only

601
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,400
do we have that drop at the
end first two snaps of the game where

602
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:21,159
Stefan Digs fumble on the first play
and a drop on the second play.

603
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:25,000
I think the Bills are just fed
up. Has Diggs or Alan, either

604
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:29,079
one of them got on Twitter yet
to acknowledge the trade. I know they

605
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:31,840
hadn't as an earlier this afternoon.
You know, I don't believe so.

606
00:42:32,599 --> 00:42:37,960
And I just left the facility about
forty five minutes ago, and I've been

607
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:40,239
so maybe within the you know,
the past a little bit, it's happened.

608
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,920
You know, Josh Allen isn't much
of a social media guy. Maybe

609
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,440
he would take the social media in
this instance. But Stefan Diggs, you

610
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,840
know, just last night, he
was tweeting a shot at Josh Allen,

611
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:58,639
you know, a passive aggressive response
to a fan who was saying, which

612
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:07,000
I think it's accurate, the Bill
Josh Allen doesn't need a top tier wide

613
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:12,760
receiver to be a successful quarterback,
meaning it's not it wasn't mandatory or necessary

614
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,800
that Josh Allen can do well.
Uh And actually I think the Bills prove

615
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,880
that at the end of last season. Yeah, but Stefan Diggs replied to

616
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:27,639
this random fan, are you sure? And and when I saw that,

617
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:31,639
I started writing, because you know, so people may wonder Gee, Tim,

618
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,400
how did you get your column out
so fast? Yeah? After the

619
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,079
Bills announced that trade. And it's
not to say that it was just that

620
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,920
one thing. Yeah, but based
on what I had been hearing, I

621
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:45,360
thought, this is a guy who
knows he's done. You know, you

622
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,119
don't take shots at the franchise quarterback
unless you know it's over. God,

623
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,000
I have I have so many questions
I have so I could talk to you

624
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:57,119
forever, because I just real quick
the we can get to a player's pocket

625
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,519
now with social media, and I've
always thought that this would be a real

626
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:07,880
problem for some guys who are super
competitive and very protective and just take it

627
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,440
so personally right. This is their
identity, this is what they've done since

628
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,400
they were six, seven, eight
years old, and they are the best

629
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:16,519
in the world at it. And
you the you know, the guy with

630
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:21,280
the the garbage plate stains down his
front. Shir are gonna tell me?

631
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:24,639
You know what I'm saying. I
mean somethings of the guys, Yeah,

632
00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:29,159
they're well right, you could write
what's your name? That was? That's

633
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:31,519
Mary de Verlander? Was he what
he was doing? Was? I guess

634
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:37,039
he was? I don't think he
was obviously Stefan Digs felt insulted, but

635
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:39,400
I think the guys. What the
guy was trying to do is say,

636
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:44,039
Josh Allen's so good. Yes,
and he is because he can run the

637
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:49,760
ball, because he can do all
these things. He made Khalil Shakir work

638
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,960
as a second year receiver, he
made Dalton Kincaid work as a rookie tight

639
00:44:53,119 --> 00:45:00,719
end. He makes things happen,
and he clearly did not need Steffan because

640
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:04,960
they won in spite of him,
well without him as a superstar talent.

641
00:45:05,639 --> 00:45:12,039
And so this fan was accurate.
Yeah, you've changed my perspective on the

642
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,840
twenty twenty four season because a lot
of things that I am reading is this

643
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:20,679
has decimated the offense. And I
would say that I feel like Stefan Diggs

644
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,239
can be given some credit for helping
Josh find himself at the NFL level.

645
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,000
But Josh has gone on to be
able to do all the things that we've

646
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:34,280
seen. Right, it's clearly one
of the top two, if not top

647
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,880
or top three, if not top
two quarterbacks in the NFL. Right.

648
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:43,079
Yeah, it's not like filling out
your fantasy lineup and just adding up the

649
00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:45,280
stats. You know, there are
people who are going to take over.

650
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:51,480
Who are going to fill this vacuum. There are players like Shakir who started

651
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:54,199
out the first half of the season
playing twenty percent of the snaps. Now

652
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,400
by the end of the season he
was playing eighty But so get a full

653
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:05,280
season of Khalil Shakir playing eighty percent
of the snaps, Curtis Samuel joining the

654
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,800
team, whatever they do in the
draft, Dalton Kin Kate is an extra

655
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:14,320
year more experienced. I'm not saying
that it's going to be perfectly fine,

656
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,719
but I think that a lot of
the that the void will be filled.

657
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,840
I mean that the vacuum will just
you know, stuff's going to happen.

658
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:27,239
People are going to get the ball. But yeah, it's uh, it's

659
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,679
interesting. Uh, it's interesting to
think about the team without Stefan Diggs,

660
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:37,480
who, as you mentioned, his
greatness cannot be understated for the four years

661
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:40,960
that he was great. And I
think that even though the Bills have two

662
00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:45,840
receivers in the Pro Football Hall of
Fame, Andre Reid and James Lofton,

663
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:52,679
and you can name other receivers like
Eric Moles and Elbert k Benyon and uh

664
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:57,199
and even Stevie Johnson and Lee Evans
I mean there are they've had Frank Lewis.

665
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,760
I mean, they've had guys with
great seasons. You can argue,

666
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,679
and I think you'd have a strong
case to say that Stefan Diggs is the

667
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,800
greatest receiver in Bill's history, longevity
notwithstanding, you know, the four years,

668
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:12,159
but what he did in those four
years was better than any other Bills

669
00:47:12,199 --> 00:47:15,599
receiver has done in his four years. Uh, in any four years.

670
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:20,519
Uh. It'd be interesting actually to
see and maybe I'll maybe it's a good

671
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:24,000
piece if you were to even take
any any of Andre Reid's four best years

672
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:30,159
and stack him up against Stefan Diggs
is four consecutive years or his entire career,

673
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,239
and it might be tough. It
might be tough for Andre Reek.

674
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,280
Uh. Again, I'm doing it
off the top of my head. He's

675
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,760
a great He's great. And there's
not going to be a wall. The

676
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,199
Hall of Fame will not exist in
the new stadium. They're going to remove

677
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,559
it. They're going to have something
out in the in a plazasy. But

678
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:52,800
get that, you know what,
and that's that we've come full circle.

679
00:47:52,079 --> 00:48:05,400
You're exactly right, it's exactly where. But were whatever they do that replaces

680
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,800
this wall of fame, Stefan Diggs
will be in at something and yeah,

681
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:14,039
and he and he helped the Bills
go from perennial laughing stock to perennial Super

682
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:16,199
Bowl contender. Absolutely, and I
think he really did help. Josh.

683
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,199
I would say, find your voice
is something that's often said. I don't

684
00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:24,400
think it's the same thing, but
find your I don't know your arm,

685
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,800
your your style in the NFL and
what's going to work? And boy,

686
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,800
you know, with a guy with
that strong an arm and everybody's saying accuracy

687
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,159
problems when he came into the NFL, and once Stefan joined the team,

688
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:38,280
that seemed to all go away,
or at least that talk seemed to be

689
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,519
less and less. Yeah, I
did a piece. I wish I had

690
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:45,199
it in front of me. I
could probably rattle off some better stats for

691
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:51,840
you. But during Stefan Diggs's dip
at the end of last season, not

692
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:57,320
only was he producing less, he
was being thrown to. He wasn't running

693
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,400
deeper routes anymore. Everything was close
to the Lion of Screw image, so

694
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:05,199
they could try to get him more
involved more quickly. I don't know if

695
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,360
that was because like you say,
he wasn't injured. And with the way

696
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:15,119
that the NFL legislates its injury reports
now due to gambling concerns, the Bills

697
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:19,239
wouldn't just not put Stefon Diggs on
an injury report like they might have in

698
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,559
the past because it's nobody said.
They might think, well, it's nobody's

699
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,239
business. We don't want people to
know that he's got a bad hamstring or

700
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,079
whatever. But with gambling the way
it is, and the and the punishments

701
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:35,719
that teams are levied through fines uh
and whatever else. Uh, they they

702
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,599
they are diligent in putting everything on
the on the injury report these days.

703
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,639
He never appeared on the injury report, so I believe all that that he

704
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,440
was not hurt, but it seemed
like they were dealing with the player who

705
00:49:46,519 --> 00:49:52,280
had lost a step. Almost overnight, he went from like we said,

706
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:59,440
all world, all galaxy to just
another guy uh in uh in a.

707
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,599
You can take a look. It's
almost exactly halfway through the season. It

708
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,960
just went away. It's fascinating,
it is, Tim. I I really

709
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,679
appreciate your time. I don't want
to take up any more time, but

710
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:14,039
I'd love to have you back.
On if you're ever in Rochester in the

711
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:16,400
studio, I think it'd be fun. I would enjoy that very much.

712
00:50:16,559 --> 00:50:21,639
I don't get to Rochester a bunch, but over the phone until we get

713
00:50:21,679 --> 00:50:24,960
to training camp, and whenever,
or maybe i'm passing through, I'll give

714
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,199
your heads up. Yeah, I
would love that because there's so many things,

715
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,519
because i'd love to hear about your
boxing side of things. I on

716
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:36,320
the exercise. I don't want to
overstate what I do, but on the

717
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:42,920
exercise and on the exercise, I
struct boxing and I love it. I

718
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:45,760
love it as a sport and it
hurts some times to see where the sport's

719
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,000
at these days. Well, I
don't watch it anymore because of that.

720
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,239
But I think that that is that
is a topic in and of itself that

721
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,719
I can speak on. But I
don't know the guys anymore. And I

722
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,760
did story, and I mean,
I know you need to move on to

723
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:08,039
other things too, But years ago, heading into the Mayweather Paquiow fight,

724
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:13,400
I did a story for the Buffalo
News in which the theme was this is

725
00:51:13,519 --> 00:51:17,599
the last great fight for America.
And I granted Paquiao is not an American

726
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:20,800
fighter, but I was saying this
is going to be the last fight that

727
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,199
matters to the American audience. I
got to tell you. I remember I

728
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:29,559
went, I sought out a restaurant
and we went down to a private room

729
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:32,760
with a bunch of people, and
I remember watching that and just thinking,

730
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,800
I think it held up to be
true, that it got irrelevant. But

731
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:39,400
I stopped through. I did a
tour. I went around the country to

732
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:43,400
some hot spots and talked to people, and I went to Philly, and

733
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,079
on my way to Philly, I
stopped in Easton to interview Larry Holmes,

734
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:51,199
and we sat in his office,
his business office, and we went down

735
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:59,000
the list of the top fifteen WBC
which was which was the title that he

736
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:04,800
held and at the time was considered
be the most prominent of the major world

737
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:09,519
heavyweight title belts OLLI had it,
and he could. He recognized I think

738
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:15,000
two of the fifteen names, and
this is Larry Holmes, let alone Joe

739
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:22,880
Schmoe. I went to the Rocky
Statue and there was a busload of kids

740
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,840
from Kentucky on a school field trip. They were eighth and ninth graders.

741
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,440
You know this should be you know, future sports fans and whatever. And

742
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,719
I asked them who the heavyweight champ? They're all posing at the Rocky Statue.

743
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,119
They knew what the Rocky Statue was
and that it was famous and that

744
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:40,039
it was iconic, and so I
asked them who. I got them all

745
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,760
together with their teacher's permission. I
said, okay, everybody who can tell

746
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,719
me who the heavyweight champion was?
And one kid was like, I don't

747
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:52,360
know Floyd Mayweather. And it's like, nope, obviously not all the teachers

748
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:59,000
they got the adult nobody knew it
was. Yeah, nobody knows anymore.

749
00:52:59,199 --> 00:53:02,719
And that's the champion is. I
don't either, Oh, Tyson Fury.

750
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:08,480
I'm getting it is Fury, But
uh, you're right because there's no names,

751
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,000
and and I don't know about Buffalo
so much. But Rochester had,

752
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:16,320
you know, Carmen Basilio, great
history, great history in Rochester, great

753
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,719
history. And for a while Big
Baby was training here, he was supposed

754
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,360
to be somebody who was going to
go for the title fight. And I

755
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,440
don't know what ever happened to that
guy. Seem Rock Mount of Fordeve Melton

756
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:31,199
as a as a manager is great. The bank with it you guys used

757
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:36,119
to put on every year was was
just fabulous you'd get you know, one

758
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:39,679
of the majors, you know,
Bernard Hopkins and you know whomever, Lennox

759
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,159
Lou I mean, you were Hall
of famers were coming in. Of course

760
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,679
Canistoa being close, but anyway,
yeah, yeah, I'm always envious of

761
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:53,079
Rochester's boxing. Did you pick the
Tyson Jake Paul fight? Jake Paul?

762
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,960
I think Jake Paul is going to
kick his at really? Uh? Yes,

763
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:02,400
and no, I do what I
absolutely do. I'm watching. I'll

764
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,639
tell you why. I'll tell you
why. It's because I saw Mike Tyson

765
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:17,679
at the in Louisville lose to Corey
Sanders. This a long long time ago.

766
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,320
I saw this. He was shot
then that was heck. I'm trying

767
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:27,519
to remember fifteen twenty years ago,
probably fifteen years ago. I mean,

768
00:54:27,519 --> 00:54:30,960
you have to look it up.
But when he fought in Louisville. I

769
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:36,079
saw that fight, and this was
a guy who was shot and he's a

770
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:39,199
lot older. Now he hasn't been
training. He presumably was training for that

771
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,920
fight, and now he's up against
the guy who's younger. I think this

772
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:47,719
is my prediction. We can revisit. I think Mike Tyson will I think

773
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:52,639
it's going to be an embarrassing day
for Mike tysonbox. I hope you're wrong.

774
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:54,719
I've been watching and I don't know
where they're going if I'm wrong to

775
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,239
Yeah, I'm sarge, but I
don't think it's gonna happ I said,

776
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,880
not just get out. I watched
the little clips of Tyson training and the

777
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,239
granted, I mean, Tim,
there are two minutes maybe less, but

778
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:14,360
it looks fierce. I mean he's
practicing also. But I've also heard that

779
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,519
those are old clips. Well they
could be. They very well could be.

780
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:19,679
I was just thinking that as you
were saying what you were saying,

781
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,960
because I thought and the other thing
is they're a clip. Anybody can look

782
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,840
great and you know, giving a
quick combo with no real resistance. It's

783
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,440
just a guy with the body armor
and the and the mints, so there's

784
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,800
nothing coming at you really like bell
on a Monday. Yeah, that's exactly

785
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,480
right. Well, I had a
lot of fun with this. I'm sorry,

786
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:42,440
I we I derailed it twice in
the beginning. It's been a pleasure.

787
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:45,360
I always enjoy talking to you,
so thank you and love to do

788
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,440
it again anytime. Bill. All
right, thank you, Tim. Tim

789
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:52,440
Graham from the Athletic. Make sure
you subscribe to the Athletic. And I'm

790
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,800
sure that, But that's interesting that
he picked up on that tweet. I

791
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,719
wanted to ask him, though,
I'm sorry, with the ring of fame

792
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,360
being gone, if there's any true
to the rumor that the in house drunk

793
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,760
tank at the new stadium was gonna
be the O. J. Simpson room

794
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:12,000
that could plaque that would be very
funny. Uh, we're gonna take a

795
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:15,960
moment when we come back. Uh. There was somebody we talked about in

796
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:20,800
a previous episode, and we had
reached out to this person. Then we

797
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,760
tried to talk and today, like
just this evening, just as I sat

798
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:28,880
down here, I got a heart
emoji. Yes, and I've been going

799
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,199
back and forth. We will Uh, yeah, I gotta see you if

800
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,519
I still have this person's number.
But the uh, we'll give you.

801
00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:38,360
We'll get you caught up on the
whole story, and we'll see if we

802
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,800
can try to persuade the person to
come on with us. Uh, but

803
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,079
it probably wouldn't be in their best
interest to do that, but we'll see

804
00:56:46,119 --> 00:56:49,320
if we can do it anyway.
We'll get to all that next, but

805
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dot com. Mom, Hascott coming
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830
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know this just reminds me because I'm
looking at the video of this song and

831
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:59,320
we're gonna talk about Alison Shardon.
And if you don't remember Alison Shardon,

832
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,599
we will certainly he will certainly get
you caught up. But I went to

833
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:07,639
the gym this morning and I was
winding down my workout and I'm over on

834
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:14,400
the side and I'm on these pads
doing an ab thing because I got flabs,

835
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:19,760
not abs in my life. And
this woman comes walking out and she

836
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:23,760
had to be I'm gonna say,
on the young end, seventy two.

837
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:31,039
But she was in a tennis skirt
and had long gray hair, and she

838
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:37,679
you could tell at some point in
her life she either was hot or certainly

839
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,280
thought of herself as hot. And
she didn't look bad. I mean,

840
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:45,360
for the age, she looked pretty
good. She looked like she tanned,

841
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:51,920
but no. What I observed though, was a white haired guy who keeps

842
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:55,000
the tips of his mustache rolled up
in wax. At the end, okay,

843
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:59,719
I was like a friend of mine. He comes walking by, older

844
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,480
guy. He's got to be her
age. She's on a treadmill. Just

845
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:06,960
take it walking. And I,
of course, I don't know why I

846
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:12,760
hate it, because I notice all
this shit, like I notice a lot

847
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,440
of things. And when I don't
notice things then and somebody goes hated to

848
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,599
see that and I missed it.
It bothers me because I usually notice everything.

849
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:23,800
And I'm watching this and he stops, turns around and kind of does

850
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,000
something with his phone, goes back
it's drink water comes back like this,

851
01:00:28,159 --> 01:00:30,320
back and forth, and I think
she picked up on it. And I

852
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,639
saw her starting to smile a little
bit because he certainly picture I know.

853
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,519
No, I don't think he was
trying to take a picture. I think

854
01:00:36,519 --> 01:00:40,280
he was trying to see if there
was he could get her attention in some

855
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:47,360
way. I think it's one of
these things where well, granted at that

856
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:52,719
age, maybe, but it's also
the the uh body language, right,

857
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,000
you know when someone is going to
be receptive and probably when they're not.

858
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,360
We all know what's a good gamble
and a bad gamble in terms of that

859
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:08,920
thing. And I think a heart
attack that would be terrible. That would

860
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,800
be absolutely Would you ever try to
shoot your shot again if that happened,

861
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:20,440
Uh, just retire? If that
if if if I attack had a heart

862
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,599
attack on the spot, no,
I think that I was the fucking man.

863
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,880
I would think that you gotta fluttering
soul, got it. I'm like,

864
01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:30,320
I got your heart rate up,
baby. That's so what I would

865
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:35,400
think, which is awful, But
it would it would make me feel pretty

866
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:40,199
damn good about myself, which is
terrible. Alison Shardan was the mom that

867
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:49,159
was in a Minnesota hotel and allegedly
on a staycation with her family when some

868
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,480
kids from Colorado had a top hockey
tournament in Minnesota. They were staying at

869
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:58,280
the same hotel. Something happened and
transpired down in the hot tub, and

870
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,920
then later on she came to the
room and allegedly, according to reports,

871
01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:07,840
had sex with two of them while
the third one in the room just observed.

872
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:09,880
They were, as we like to
call it on the Billified show,

873
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:16,519
helming it, hilmeining it, soldering, soultering on, hilmaning, and soltering

874
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:22,000
on. So Alison Shardon, we
had all taken various shots at trying to

875
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:25,119
contact her. I think I had
called her and I have found the number,

876
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:30,440
but you all of a sudden,
Kevin comes in today and he goes,

877
01:02:30,679 --> 01:02:32,519
I've got a bunch of different feelers
out for different people, for mystery

878
01:02:32,559 --> 01:02:37,320
guests. So when the messager goes
off, I'm like, oh, let's

879
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,280
see, and it was just a
heart emoji. Yeah. Kevin goes,

880
01:02:39,679 --> 01:02:42,920
all of a sudden, I'm here
and he starts laughing. I go,

881
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:44,880
what's so funny? He goes,
I just got a heart. I go

882
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:51,800
what And then he said, Alison
Shardon just now was responding to whatever message

883
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,960
you sent her back on February fifth. Yeah, just we want you to

884
01:02:55,039 --> 01:02:59,280
come on tell your side of the
story. And here's my number, here's

885
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,199
my email address if you're interested.
What did and we we just I got

886
01:03:02,239 --> 01:03:07,159
the heart emogia and then I I
was like, would you taking a shot?

887
01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:09,280
Would you be interested in coming on
the show tonight? And she said,

888
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,599
definitely want to tell my side badly, but I'm sure my lawyer won't

889
01:03:13,639 --> 01:03:17,920
approve. Mister Shirke agreed with that
statement very very whole hardly. But you

890
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,559
guys definitely now that on ahead when
you said things don't totally add up.

891
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:28,280
First of all, no one had
sex, and they were highly willing before

892
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,320
and during the interaction, So I
don't that kind of yeah, well,

893
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:36,400
I mean it could be making out
feeling, coping and feel as they used

894
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:40,440
to call it, petting. So
then if something changed overnight, clearly yeah,

895
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,480
And then I asked again, you
know, would you like to be

896
01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:45,800
on the show. We'd love to
have you, especially me as a hockey

897
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:51,159
parent. I know hockey tournament playing
to her strengths, and I know what

898
01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:52,920
can go on. She says,
I'll think about it. I think it's

899
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:59,239
hilarious that you called my work the
hand like a boss, So I question

900
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,320
this is oh you listen, Yeah, she said, My coworkers said management

901
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,960
never said a word, so apparently
she just figured that out on her own.

902
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:10,000
But she said she's read and listened
to everything and every comment. She's

903
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:12,880
kind of petty like that. So
I just threw back in her said,

904
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,199
Hey, if you're interested, this
is when we typically tape. You know,

905
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:17,559
Please don't hesitate to reach out if
you need anything, and please keep

906
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:21,960
listening. We are entertaining as healthy. You've reached this cell zone of Alison

907
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:29,159
Starden. Oh please leave your name, number and a brief staff and I

908
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:33,880
will get back to you. Thank
you, have a great day. Listen

909
01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:36,920
how many people sing that song to
you? And do you even know what

910
01:04:38,119 --> 01:04:40,800
Kevin? I do not? Yeah, it is Uh, it is one

911
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:46,000
of my favorites. John Hyatt,
it is not. But we will bump

912
01:04:46,039 --> 01:04:48,920
with it and then we'll tell you
more about the song. Allison, it's

913
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,760
bilified the podcast. Uh, we
would love to have you on because I

914
01:04:54,199 --> 01:04:58,920
clearly think there's more to this story
than than we were told and I know

915
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,920
you've contacted Kevin through social media,
so I would love to just talk to

916
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:08,679
you about facts. We don't even
have to get into the case, but

917
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:13,599
things that have happened to you since
then, things that have been said about

918
01:05:13,639 --> 01:05:18,239
you behind your back, what's happening
with your family, your kids, all

919
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,760
those kinds of things. I just
think it's very, very interesting, and

920
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,280
if you have time, we will
be kind. I think you know that

921
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,960
already and we would love to talk
to you. I hope you're doing well.

922
01:05:29,679 --> 01:05:36,239
Bye bye, listen there you go
with you. It's a song.

923
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:42,880
It's just a song speaking of that
something interesting that I will ask you and

924
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,880
I because I never had this,
never had this, I've never had got

925
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:51,480
ready there Life three sixty or any
kind of tracking device with your family.

926
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,800
Well, my wife does use it
for the boys. Okay, she bitches

927
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:03,920
that I don't accept the Ah,
I fucking but love it is. I

928
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,280
will go either out with her,
yes, or she knows where I'm going

929
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:14,599
to be, Okay, right,
Okay, So I never had it.

930
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,360
I think we I don't know that
Life three sixty might have been available until

931
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:26,000
the boys were older, the older
guys, certainly for Jamison, but I

932
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,920
think that we there was some kind
of Verizon thing where you could track them

933
01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:33,360
through Verizon. Yes, so there
was that. I don't know if it

934
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,159
was on my phone or not.
I never really cared enough. But I'm

935
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,320
checking our text messages, which I've
been a little bit negligent on at five

936
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,199
A five two of sixty eighty eight
sixty six, and there was one there

937
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,119
Hate Billifi Crew question. I'm a
divorce mom of two teenage girls. We

938
01:06:48,239 --> 01:06:51,719
all follow each other on Life three
sixty, so you can get an invite

939
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:56,880
to Life three sixty Kevin, Yeah, okay. I started dating a guy

940
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,639
recently and suggested we follow each other
on Life three sixty. He said no,

941
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:04,079
he doesn't want to be followed by
me. I then found out he

942
01:07:04,239 --> 01:07:11,199
follows his kids but will not allow
them to follow him. Is that possible?

943
01:07:11,519 --> 01:07:15,960
Yeah, okay. I find the
whole situation sketchy or am I overthinking

944
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:18,440
it? So? I was like
if someone I was dating all of a

945
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:23,239
sudden said to me, hey a
Life three sixty, I would find that

946
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:27,639
in someone invasive. Now I know
people who do this, and I know

947
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,920
a story recently. Also, the
same people that share a Facebook account probably

948
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:35,280
too right when those aren't. I
don't know, Tim Smith on Facebook,

949
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,239
I don't know, but I will
tell you this. So recently I was

950
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:45,320
talking to a relative and they went
out to eat, and one with somebody,

951
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,920
and one place was too slow,
so they laughed. They waited there.

952
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,480
They were there for twenty minutes or
so, and they left and they

953
01:07:54,480 --> 01:08:00,039
went to another restaurant. And when
they got home, the wife asked,

954
01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:03,360
how was dinner, and they said, ah, you know, they gave

955
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:08,119
it. And then why did you
leave? Such and such a place never

956
01:08:08,239 --> 01:08:12,239
had come up but other than she
could see it on the phone, And

957
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,439
I go, I don't. I
mean, I guess we shouldn't be bothered

958
01:08:15,479 --> 01:08:18,680
by it, but boy, that
would bother me. And I can't even

959
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,720
I can't express why, because I
think if someone came to me with an

960
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,640
argument and goes, well, you
weren't doing anything, so what's the big

961
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,399
deal? And I go, it's
not that it's a big deal. But

962
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,159
what happened to the days where I
could just disappear into a happy hour to

963
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:36,039
blow off a little steam And I
come home and yeah, you can tell

964
01:08:36,119 --> 01:08:39,880
me this is a lie? And
I'm not married anymore, And maybe this

965
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,399
is part of the reason but I
would basically go, I guess stuck could

966
01:08:43,399 --> 01:08:45,119
work. I would be home maybe
a half hour later than normal, right,

967
01:08:45,159 --> 01:08:47,560
because you went to happy hour.
Maybe you left work a little early

968
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,279
and hung out, you blow off
some steam, You go home, and

969
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:53,840
you walk in and go, I
just working a little late tonight. I

970
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,439
want to catch up on some stuff. And you don't say anything. But

971
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,439
if you had the Life three sixties, she'd know exactly where you went from

972
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,479
the office the distillery. Yeah,
exactly. And I'm not sure that I

973
01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:09,239
like that. We use it more
for just kind of tracking what the boys,

974
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,960
not what they're doing, but like
when when he stands on the train,

975
01:09:13,039 --> 01:09:15,960
we can kind of see where he
is, yes time we can plan

976
01:09:15,079 --> 01:09:19,920
it out to pick him up.
Or h Tyler had a night practice for

977
01:09:20,079 --> 01:09:26,920
hockey. Off the record, kind
of might practice and some of the boys,

978
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,920
older boys the team, We're gonna
drive some of the other kids home,

979
01:09:30,199 --> 01:09:31,600
right, And some of the parents
were a little, you know,

980
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,720
less than thrilled with that. But
watching Life three sixty, you could see

981
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,680
the kid was driving the speed limit. He was doing exactly. He wasn't

982
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,560
right, he wasn't doing ninety five
on three ninety. He was driving sixty

983
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,159
to sixty miles an hour, and
he went from where he said he was

984
01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:49,720
going to right to where there was
No It's amazing these things, right,

985
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:55,279
Yeah, it's amazing, but you
won't accept your wife's invitation to Life three

986
01:09:55,359 --> 01:09:58,560
six. The only thing I do
GPS, really, I've turned all that

987
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,319
location stuff off. Yeah. The
only thing I use my phone for GPS

988
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:06,399
is is way is okay. That's
I think the only GPS A I use

989
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:11,640
Google Maps. I like it better
than Ways only because instead of saying,

990
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,960
you know, a left and three
hundred feet, it'll go at the second

991
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:16,760
stop light turned left, and I'm
so dumb I could rather I go.

992
01:10:17,159 --> 01:10:21,000
I can't judge three hundred feet in
the car sometimes, especially with all the

993
01:10:21,039 --> 01:10:25,520
stuff going on around you that you're
paying I go. I'm like, I

994
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,600
like Ways because it alerts the alerts
caps. Yes, because I maybe sometimes

995
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:34,800
you might potentially like the speed possibly
maybe I don't know, allegedly now if

996
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,479
you cheat it because to me it
feels like you want to charge it.

997
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,119
But if you cheated, and this
was part of the thing, now that

998
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,479
you know the husband or wife who
cheated is going to put the Life three

999
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,520
sixty on the phone, the phone
off. Weird, look there gonna go

1000
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:55,000
cheating the phone, phone blow up. I knew a kid who I know

1001
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:59,760
of a kid I know of a
kid who recently his mom allowed him to

1002
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,720
stay over on a weeknight at a
friend's house recently. And she can check

1003
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,000
the phones. Now. I don't
know if I would assume it's Life three

1004
01:11:06,039 --> 01:11:09,039
sixty. It seems to be the
most popular one. I don't know.

1005
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,960
But she could see that he was
not at school and her other kid was

1006
01:11:14,039 --> 01:11:15,960
at school. So she called him
up and he said, yeah, we're

1007
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:20,640
heading out in just a couple of
minutes. And then she checks about ten

1008
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:26,239
minutes later and he's at school.
And about fifteen minutes after that, she

1009
01:11:26,319 --> 01:11:30,039
gets a call from the school,
Hey, we saw your son walk up,

1010
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,319
throw his phone in the bushes out
in front of the school and leave.

1011
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:36,479
Awesome, And I go, that
would have been me. That would

1012
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,600
have been me, absolutely, like
I would just leave my fuck fuck it,

1013
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,520
I don't need it, fuck it, none of this shit I want

1014
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:48,560
to post anyway, you know what
I'm saying. So, but it's somebody

1015
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,319
at the school snitch. They saw
it happen. They saw it happen.

1016
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,479
This is a true story. I
gotta be careful because I don't want to

1017
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,840
identify anybody. But I'm not sure
how I feel about the life three sixty.

1018
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:02,319
But from your standpoint, look,
I know somebody else who has nieces,

1019
01:12:02,399 --> 01:12:06,880
and the nieces had it on and
when they arrived, the person's sister

1020
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:11,680
said, I can tell that you
drove the speed limit. I can see

1021
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,960
where you were, and all that
stuff is good. I always figure this,

1022
01:12:15,319 --> 01:12:17,640
if there's something bad that's gonna happen, I'm gonna hear about it.

1023
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,920
I'll hear about it, probably sooner
than later. But I don't know.

1024
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:28,800
I would say to this woman,
if you're that, if you feel it's

1025
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,279
sketchy, there's something with you.
Not for the new guy to not put

1026
01:12:32,319 --> 01:12:35,119
it on his phone. There there's
something with you. The thing though,

1027
01:12:35,239 --> 01:12:39,399
was how many dates are they gone? It's a new guy, so have

1028
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,479
they got on or dates? No, I think like new boyfriend, Like

1029
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,960
we've gotten into, we've gone on
they we've passed that, we're past that,

1030
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,359
but you're not married. I agree. Hey, man, I don't

1031
01:12:50,399 --> 01:12:54,760
even I don't want it on at
all, and I'm not doing anything.

1032
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:59,239
I don't do shit. I'm sure
Cam's got you tracked very well, and

1033
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:00,560
you could have me track. But
I mean, I'm just saying like I

1034
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,439
don't do. Sure knows exactly what
you're doing. He knows exactly how fast

1035
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:10,600
you're doing the drags, tripp in
the trucks. He knows it all the

1036
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:15,479
like I'm at mault Connery's. I
haven't been there in a while. Well,

1037
01:13:15,079 --> 01:13:19,600
I don't think I've been there since
uh our Saint Patrick's day. See

1038
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,760
back at Thirsties changing it up.
No, I haven't been to I haven't

1039
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,279
been to Thirsties. I've been thinking
of going to. Uh. You know,

1040
01:13:27,359 --> 01:13:30,680
we got a new sponsor with Trotta
and Jojo. I forget about Jojo.

1041
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,920
I always liked Jojo. He's got
that aspen chic. I like it.

1042
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,640
They got one in Webster, you
know, going there, get a

1043
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:40,600
wood fire pizza, hang out,
hey, and as Jameson always goes,

1044
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:45,600
hey, ladies. It's just very
funny, all right. So you I'm

1045
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,520
so happy. I'm so proud that
you turn it down. Not so proud

1046
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:53,279
because that could become a real fight
for some couples. I got nothing to

1047
01:13:53,359 --> 01:13:57,279
hype. Well, I under I
understand that, but but do you also

1048
01:13:57,399 --> 01:13:59,560
know exactly where I'm going. I'm
just not like, I'm not telling you

1049
01:14:00,199 --> 01:14:05,279
no. But sometimes sometimes there's a
detour. Sometimes there's a detour, Like

1050
01:14:05,319 --> 01:14:08,960
you get a call and you swing
over to somebody's house and you have a

1051
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,520
couple of beers and then you head
then you finish up your at home.

1052
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,159
She knows that. All right,
Well, there you go. She knows

1053
01:14:16,239 --> 01:14:20,720
all my asshole friends, she knows, she knows you, she knows my

1054
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:25,600
neighbors, she knows the hockey parents, she knows all the people are wrong

1055
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:32,039
with. Nobody else can tolerate me. Well, I don't know. For

1056
01:14:32,199 --> 01:14:34,760
me, it would be it would
feel invasive. I don't know. It's

1057
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,560
almost like having a tracking device on
your car, Yeah, you know,

1058
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:42,399
on your person. I get it
for the kids. I'm not even sure

1059
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,279
if I like the fact that my
phone now, because my mother was showing

1060
01:14:45,319 --> 01:14:49,479
me, uh, tracks your steps, It tells you how long you've slept.

1061
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,800
It's done all this, Yet I
go, I'm not sure like any

1062
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:56,319
of that. Mine's always tracked my
steps. It's just I haven't set up

1063
01:14:56,319 --> 01:14:58,399
any of the other stuff, whether
it like the sleeping and stuff. I

1064
01:14:58,399 --> 01:15:00,520
don't know how it's gonna track my
sleep because I think it's I don't either,

1065
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,960
because it's like how long you're no. I think it's where it's resting

1066
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:10,920
next to you in a nose at
this time. Intuitively, I guess at

1067
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,600
all you don't have to take a
shit and want to get some feet.

1068
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,239
Now I'm starting to rethink this.
Fucking put the three sixty on your phone.

1069
01:15:16,359 --> 01:15:20,199
You're tracked everywhere you go. You
have no choice. It's everywhere.

1070
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:25,039
You're walking your neighborhood as people are
watching you on their little cameras. You

1071
01:15:25,119 --> 01:15:30,760
have no idea who's watching you.
Don't pick your nose anywhere because everybody to

1072
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,600
see it scratched your ass. It's
if it becomes a meme. It's everywhere.

1073
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,880
So I guess in a way,
but there is something to think that

1074
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:42,640
I can say no to something.
Does there's some satisfaction in me saying no

1075
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,159
to the life three sixty. There's
some satisfaction with a bottle of Jameson.

1076
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,079
You'd say, hell, yeah,
no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

1077
01:15:47,159 --> 01:15:53,600
I would say, let's negotiate something
else, all right, We'll take a

1078
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:58,720
moment. Uh powerball it's up over
a billion, and some people just don't

1079
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,399
seem to care. We'll get to
that now. Iron Smoke Distillery in Fairport,

1080
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,640
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labeled them one of the ten best

1081
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:11,159
bourbons outside of Kentucky. They are
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1082
01:16:11,319 --> 01:16:15,880
and have a tasting, take a
tour, schedule all that at Ironsmokedistillery dot

1083
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,920
com. Just email Scully there and
then get over and have a good time.

1084
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,960
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know that? Thursday, April fourth,

1085
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:27,079
from seven thirty to ten thirty Block
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1086
01:16:27,079 --> 01:16:30,760
the seventies to today. Get out
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1087
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floor. Come back Friday night for
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1088
01:16:34,279 --> 01:16:42,239
Elena Alston and then at eight thirty
a Rochester favorite north Side Johnny. I

1089
01:16:42,319 --> 01:16:45,600
want you to picture yourself in a
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1090
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:50,760
are ready to rock with Northside Johnny. It's all happening at Iron Smoke Distillery

1091
01:16:51,319 --> 01:17:00,239
right here in Fairport, New York. Baby in Paris had two six to

1092
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1093
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twenty four. You can now rent
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1094
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That's right. You can even have
them come and cater your party. Oh

1095
01:17:13,079 --> 01:17:16,840
yeah, or have the food truck
come out to your event. Imagine your

1096
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:21,039
wedding reception. As people leave,
they can get a shake right at the

1097
01:17:21,079 --> 01:17:26,039
truck as they head out. How
great is that? How do you schedule

1098
01:17:26,079 --> 01:17:29,560
all this? It's very simple.
You go to Plates and Shakes dot com,

1099
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,199
the same Plates and Shakes that you
always went to for Jimmy Z's Plates

1100
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:34,399
and Shakes. You go to Plates
and Shakes dot com and you can find

1101
01:17:34,399 --> 01:17:38,319
out more about the catering, the
food truck and how to rent out the

1102
01:17:38,359 --> 01:17:43,000
restaurant for your next event. Jimmy
Z's Plates and Shakes at Plates and Shakes

1103
01:17:43,199 --> 01:18:15,760
dot com. He no sunshine when
she's gone Daryl Hall with finger eleven,

1104
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,479
Ain't no sunshine? Oh I did
say I would I would have done that.

1105
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:24,680
Elvis Costella song Alison. I we
got talking to night, but Elvis

1106
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,159
Costella's names Alison. Next time we
get Alison on if we do get or

1107
01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:36,319
any Allison or any Allison, we'll
see. I thought, ain't no sunshine

1108
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:42,560
because the eclipse is coming Monday,
and uh, it's a big deal for

1109
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,520
some not such a big deal for
others, but big deals. To the

1110
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:49,119
point where you were saying that the
Wayne County has declared a state of emergency,

1111
01:18:49,119 --> 01:18:54,159
and I think that's top with the
funding of overtime for police. I

1112
01:18:54,199 --> 01:18:56,479
don't think it's for anything. I
think it's just to be able to get

1113
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,640
more people and public service out there
to you assessed with. And I don't

1114
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:04,039
know what to expect, because you
know we're gonna do the podcast out somewhere,

1115
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:08,760
but I don't know what what to
expect in terms of timing and traffic

1116
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,359
and all that. Kind of glasses. Have you got glasses? I have

1117
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:15,640
not got I guess some glasses what
I figured. Yeah, they're like two

1118
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,479
bucks everywhere, right, I don't
know do you have glasses? I think

1119
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,880
my wife buck glasses es well,
I know Brady got some from school,

1120
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,359
so worst comestoris, I'll still has. We're gonna call the four ninety motel

1121
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:42,199
to find out if there's any vacancy
for the week. Everything's booked him.

1122
01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:45,560
I'm coming from out of town for
the eclipse, and I wanted to know

1123
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:50,600
everything seems to be booked. Do
you have any rooms available? How Uh?

1124
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:57,039
While I'll be coming into town on
Sunday. Uh, how long do

1125
01:19:57,119 --> 01:20:02,039
I have to stay? Look?
Coming on Sunday, coming into town Sunday,

1126
01:20:02,079 --> 01:20:06,039
how long do I have to stay? Where? Can we get it

1127
01:20:06,079 --> 01:20:12,199
for about three hours? On Tuesday
or Monday? Do you want to see

1128
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,439
on Monday? Wait? You do
it by the hour? Yeah? Ah?

1129
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:21,159
Yes, we can rent by the
hour, yeah, by the hub

1130
01:20:21,279 --> 01:20:27,279
and a one night and my overnight? Is there a minimum stay or a

1131
01:20:27,359 --> 01:20:32,680
minimum hours? Two hours? Is
forty dollars? How much for overnight?

1132
01:20:35,079 --> 01:20:42,920
Ninety dollars? Okay? To a
hot tub room? Yeah you have hot

1133
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:48,279
tubs? No you don't have hot
tubs? Uh? Okay? And there

1134
01:20:48,359 --> 01:20:51,079
is a room available if I wanted
to say, at the four ninety motel

1135
01:20:51,359 --> 01:20:57,720
for the eclipse? Yes, okay? Uh? Are you going to be

1136
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:05,439
watching the eclipse? Okay? Thank
you? Bye? By the hour,

1137
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:12,920
catch a little catch the clipse ketch, little napping on the road, God,

1138
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:18,239
God like forty two hours? Bring
your own seats. I want to

1139
01:21:18,279 --> 01:21:20,960
go in. I want someone to
your own. Someone needs to go in

1140
01:21:21,079 --> 01:21:25,359
with a black light and just go
over everything. It might be worth it

1141
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,079
for the forty dollars. I may
you know what that would be a great

1142
01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:30,760
video. We go to the four
ninety motel with a black light. We

1143
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,039
pay for the two hours we rent
through them. We just together, what

1144
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:42,680
oh, who cares? It's just
you're the cameraman. What they're calling?

1145
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,840
Yeah, yeah, he's the cameraman. All right, let's see. Should

1146
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,479
we try the Gates Motel? Sure? Why not? Now? I don't

1147
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:54,119
know the Gates Motel? Is it? We're tell me more about it?

1148
01:21:54,159 --> 01:21:56,399
Do you know anything about it?
I just know what Cecilia is, the

1149
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,199
fore ninety from what I've been told. Okay, you should try to hide

1150
01:21:59,239 --> 01:22:01,479
it afterwards and just see what they
what they're charging. Okay, yeah,

1151
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:08,920
the ninety we have ninety five me
at number for that forty dollars for two

1152
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:13,920
hours. Hotel? How many help
you? Hi? How are you good?

1153
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,600
How are you good? I'm coming
from out of town for the eclipse?

1154
01:22:18,039 --> 01:22:21,560
Huh? And I'm wondering if you
know nobody has any rooms available.

1155
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:31,840
I'm wondering if you have anything available
Sunday in the month. Yeah, as

1156
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,439
far as I know, we do. But we don't take reservations over the

1157
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,680
phone and just walk in. I
mean all the wait a minute, make

1158
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:41,600
a reservation is coming to person?
Pantful. Okay? How much is an

1159
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:47,960
overnight on Sunday and Monday? Would
you be doing cash er card? What?

1160
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:53,960
What do you prefer if I if
I know I'm advanced, I just

1161
01:22:54,039 --> 01:22:59,920
make because you know today nobody has
any cash home. So if I know

1162
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,680
thirty seven on the cart, it's
ninety okay? And uh, what if

1163
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:09,520
I just wanted to do a few
hours? Do you do hourly? Oh?

1164
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,479
Yeah, it starts at two hours
for thirty seven or three hours for

1165
01:23:14,119 --> 01:23:17,399
forty five. Wow, it's a
deal. All right, thank you,

1166
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:23,279
you're welcome. How good night?
Thanks? Three hours for forty five.

1167
01:23:23,399 --> 01:23:30,279
They don't take reservations. You have
to walk in you so you got two

1168
01:23:30,319 --> 01:23:33,079
hours for forty At the four ninety
is gates in a better line for the

1169
01:23:33,159 --> 01:23:38,399
eclipse. You get a better show
for forty five. Absolutely. Have you

1170
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:42,199
seen where the four ninety is?
The fort ninety motel? It is it

1171
01:23:42,319 --> 01:23:45,359
turn passes every night going home.
It's nearing the little speed shop, isn't

1172
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:47,840
it? No? Four nineties right
on the corner. It's right on four

1173
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,039
ninety. Yeah, at mault Reid, Like yeah, right right, it's

1174
01:23:51,119 --> 01:23:54,359
right. You can see it from
four ninety right down the road. From

1175
01:23:54,399 --> 01:23:59,079
the little speed shop. They're on
Emerson and they're Emerson's. Yeah, but

1176
01:23:59,119 --> 01:24:01,600
I mean if I'm home, if
I was going home to catch four ninety,

1177
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,439
and I leave a little speech shop, I turn left and I go

1178
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,800
down to Mount Red and I get
out of four ninety and I passed the

1179
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:14,600
four ninety hotel. Oh god,
I just can't imagine ever in my life

1180
01:24:15,199 --> 01:24:18,319
being tempted to just pay by the
hour. And you know why it's paid

1181
01:24:18,319 --> 01:24:21,119
by the hour. But it's like, and then who else I don't have

1182
01:24:21,199 --> 01:24:26,479
live three six phone? Baby?
Who has to go in there and clean

1183
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,479
that shit? After that? Oh? They're not. They're they're making the

1184
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:34,560
bed at at most and maybe emptying
the rubber wrapper out of the garbage cat.

1185
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:40,640
That's where COVID started, maybe wipe
mopping up the mirror with the cocaine

1186
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,960
residence. Oh my god, do
you want to try call on the Hiatt?

1187
01:24:43,039 --> 01:24:45,000
Yeah, give me a high number. I just said it. So

1188
01:24:45,119 --> 01:24:49,319
now we've got ninety at the at
the four ninety eighty seven cash at the

1189
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:55,119
Gates motel, forty five for three
hours or forty for two hours? Yeah,

1190
01:24:55,119 --> 01:24:57,119
did you give me? Did you
write the number down? No?

1191
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,840
You have my paper. I can't
so this is the Highest Regency? Yes?

1192
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:11,680
Uh, now the highest Regency.
I'm trying to think where the one

1193
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:15,640
downtown isn't. Yeah, it is
downtown, which might have like a little

1194
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:21,680
rooftop bar or something. Thank you
for calling Highest Regency Rochester your place to

1195
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:26,520
stay, play and get away in
the heart of downtown Rochester. If you

1196
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,079
know your party, you may dial
it it anytime during this message. To

1197
01:25:30,199 --> 01:25:34,079
reach a guest on floor nine and
below, please dial seven plus the room

1198
01:25:34,159 --> 01:25:39,359
number. For a guest on floor
ten or above, please dial the room

1199
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:46,800
number only to make a room reservation. Press one for this. You guys

1200
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:55,039
doing wait WHI I transfer your call? Your wife's looking for as it much?

1201
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:04,640
That may be a new bet colorandom
rooms is important to us For details

1202
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:09,079
from this phone, we may have
to get a billified fall dot com.

1203
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,439
You cheatings out of a bitch?
What are you doing in there? Select

1204
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,079
from the phollowing oceans. Please press
one if you were calling to make a

1205
01:26:16,199 --> 01:26:24,920
new reservation Chris, two if you
were needing her so you can't even get

1206
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:30,039
through to the desk. Four ninety
gates, I get customer service. I'm

1207
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,039
customer wondering if that was if that
was an actual person. At the four

1208
01:26:33,079 --> 01:26:41,399
ninety he had a Hello Hier,
Hello morning, good morning. Uh,

1209
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:49,119
well, yes we are. I'm
looking for a room at the High Regency

1210
01:26:49,199 --> 01:26:54,359
downtown Rochester, and I'm just looking
for Sunday to Monday for the eclipse.

1211
01:26:54,479 --> 01:27:00,600
Is there anything available Sunday that will
be a pro seven? Right? Sure?

1212
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,279
April seventh to April eighth. I
want to see the eclipse. Are

1213
01:27:03,319 --> 01:27:11,800
you excited about the eclipse? Yes? And for this is for how many

1214
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:21,960
persons two two adults, one night, Sunday to Monday, downtown Rochester?

1215
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:28,199
Are do you know are you going
to have a Sunday, Monday and Tuesday?

1216
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,960
Leave Tuesday, I'll leave Tuesday,
all right, Sunday, Monday,

1217
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,760
Tuesday. Well, I just want
to know what the overnight rate is and

1218
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:41,000
then yes, So for the for
the seventh to eight bait, there are

1219
01:27:41,039 --> 01:27:45,680
no rooms available, no rooms available. Do you know if they have a

1220
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:53,319
an event on the roof for anything? You're let me chuck. If it's

1221
01:27:53,399 --> 01:27:56,640
for two nights. Oh, if
it's for two nights, okay, let's

1222
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,239
see, two nights might come up? Two nice, mister, it's still

1223
01:28:00,279 --> 01:28:04,479
unavailable, still unavailable? Okay?
If it were available, how much would

1224
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:10,319
we be looking at? Sure?
Can I ask if you're a high member

1225
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:16,079
for a what number? Can I
ask if you're a highest member? No,

1226
01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:20,319
I'm not a high member, are
you? I think I might?

1227
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:29,079
Unfortunately, well, hanging on a
second, my partner. My partner may

1228
01:28:29,119 --> 01:28:30,279
be a high member. He's looking
up his highest number. Hang on,

1229
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:36,319
don't hang up on us yet.
This is very exciting. Did you buy

1230
01:28:36,359 --> 01:28:45,920
a powerball ticket, ma'am? Did
you fortunately on this hotel for this?

1231
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,199
There are no rooms available even if
I have a high number. If I

1232
01:28:50,239 --> 01:28:59,159
have a high preferred High Member Platinum
card, yes, sure, any rooms

1233
01:28:59,199 --> 01:29:03,560
available? All right, Well,
I appreciate your time, Thank you,

1234
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:09,560
good bye. I bet you all
the decent places are sold out. Yeah.

1235
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:13,079
I don't have I don't have high
I have holiday and iron in bonvoys.

1236
01:29:13,119 --> 01:29:15,199
Should I call my mom and tell
her I got a room at the

1237
01:29:15,319 --> 01:29:18,840
Gates Motel for eighty seven dollars a
day? Oh shit, Oh shit,

1238
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:24,239
I just thought of the greatest thing. My father loves to stay at the

1239
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:27,920
shittiest hotels he can all the time. He does it on purpose, like

1240
01:29:28,039 --> 01:29:31,720
the guy my father loves to I
don't get into this, but he has

1241
01:29:32,399 --> 01:29:35,840
means and he doesn't need to do
this, but he loves to do it.

1242
01:29:36,199 --> 01:29:42,039
So he's coming up for my son's
college graduation. Maybe I set him

1243
01:29:42,119 --> 01:29:45,560
up at the Gates Motel. Dude, he might die, and that's that's

1244
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:50,079
no bullshit. He might die in
that hotel about the four ninety. Either

1245
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:54,359
one. He's either gonna die or
get chlemydiot, one of the jills.

1246
01:29:55,079 --> 01:29:58,479
I can't do that. I can't
do that. Power Ball is up to

1247
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,039
over a one billion. Again.
You get your tickets, three of them

1248
01:30:00,039 --> 01:30:03,279
today, all right? I got
mine on my jack pocket, which sounds

1249
01:30:03,399 --> 01:30:08,319
awful. That's such a stupid name. Uh, but if you won the

1250
01:30:08,399 --> 01:30:13,239
other night, I won four dollars. No, that's it's it's like reins,

1251
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:18,039
reinvest. Uh. If you lend
a friend ten bucks and they spend

1252
01:30:18,079 --> 01:30:27,560
it on Powerball and they hit,
how much do they owe you? In

1253
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,000
a perfect world, they owe you
ten dollars. Yeah, that's what I

1254
01:30:30,119 --> 01:30:32,520
say. I say the same thing. I'm sure any good friend's going to

1255
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,359
throw you a little bit more.
I would say. A friend asks if

1256
01:30:35,399 --> 01:30:38,920
they can borrow ten dollars, you
hand them the ten. Uh. So

1257
01:30:39,039 --> 01:30:42,439
they asked a bunch of different people
that people vote on this, and the

1258
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,319
four options were just the original ten, half the winnings, all the winnings,

1259
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:49,760
nothing, The top votegeter vote getter
was just the original ten half or

1260
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:55,399
all no way. Uh. If
you want to give more, great,

1261
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,479
and maybe they should, but they're
not obligated. I would say this,

1262
01:31:00,039 --> 01:31:05,640
how many people voted for all?
Seventy two percent? Yes, let's see

1263
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:11,800
half the winnings was fifteen percent,
then nothing at twelve percent. Two percent

1264
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,640
that think they should give you the
full one billion. Two percent of the

1265
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:20,479
people who responded obviously just people,
because I mean theoretically, if if I

1266
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:24,199
go out and buy my own tickets
and I give you ten to buy your

1267
01:31:24,239 --> 01:31:27,399
ticket, yeah, give me back
to ten. If I don't buy a

1268
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,640
ticket, then it's on me to
not ask for anything because I didn't even

1269
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:35,359
buy a ticket myself. I gave
you ten. So if the roles were

1270
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:42,439
reversed, sixty four percent of people
say they'd only feel obligated to pay back

1271
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:47,439
the original ten. Twenty seven claimed
they'd split the winnings, and nine percent

1272
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:55,760
say scream, I'm a billion are
bitch, goh find me? I would

1273
01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:00,000
give I would give the ten plus
a little extra kick, and probably we're

1274
01:32:00,039 --> 01:32:02,880
probably going to depending on who it
is. Hang on, if it was

1275
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:06,359
a billion dollars, Let's say you
let me ten bucks and I hit for

1276
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:11,640
a billion, I'm I think I'm
giving you, like, I don't know,

1277
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:16,560
ten grand. You cheap, motherfucker, I don't know. I don't

1278
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,199
know. If you let me the
ten and I want a billion, i've

1279
01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:21,520
given you more than ten grand,
Well, I probably get Okay, you're

1280
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:26,840
right, that's a good point.
Maybe like one hundred grand, I'd probably

1281
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,600
be in the one to two fifty
range. And then yeah, you know,

1282
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,640
we're probably gonna take a trip somewhere. We're probably gonna go to the

1283
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:36,199
Guinness factory. Oh yeah, you're
gonna be invited to whatever blowout party I

1284
01:32:36,319 --> 01:32:45,239
have. Would recovered, like one
hundred grand would be It would be pretty

1285
01:32:45,319 --> 01:32:47,239
nice. It's not life changing,
but it's pretty nice. You cover the

1286
01:32:47,279 --> 01:32:49,600
tax too, Do you give one
hundred like twelve to cover the tax?

1287
01:32:50,319 --> 01:32:56,199
Uh? Great point, Yes,
yes, don't think that if you're just

1288
01:32:56,279 --> 01:32:58,680
a dick, if you don't give
you tax too? Yeah, what if

1289
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,720
what if I don't tell anybody where
it went? Well, if you just

1290
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:06,840
can't find me, live three sixty
can't find me. You ain't gonna find

1291
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:11,680
me. The government's got LIVEE three
sixty to track it down. I did

1292
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:15,279
buy three tickets on Jackpocket, and
I'm sure I'll get from nothing. I

1293
01:33:15,319 --> 01:33:17,640
always love it because Jackpocket. The
next day, like if you win,

1294
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:23,279
there's a like a little alert to
let you know to check your thing,

1295
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,840
and you check and it's usually at
seven o'clock in the morning. If you

1296
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,039
didn't win, they do the little
check your winnings and it's at ten and

1297
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:35,319
you know, you're like, yeah, fuck, I got fox. I

1298
01:33:35,399 --> 01:33:39,000
find this fascinating. I want now, I want to go to the four

1299
01:33:39,079 --> 01:33:44,399
ninety motel. People kill two bits
of one stone? What do you mean?

1300
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,359
Ask a stripper? At you get
then the black light at the four

1301
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,920
ninety kill two birds of one stone? I think the black light at the

1302
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:56,399
four ninety. Now I'd want to
go with a police officer. Maybe I

1303
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,760
can get the share an off duty
sheriff to come with me. I bet

1304
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,520
you get early to go. Yeah, yes, but early is out that

1305
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:08,680
way. He made no people at
the Gates Hotel just from his copy days.

1306
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:11,239
Oh I'm sure, I'm sure.
I'm sure they get called there a

1307
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,000
ton. I mean, you're wrinten
by the room by the hour, and

1308
01:34:15,119 --> 01:34:17,159
it's that cheap. It's what would
she say, thirty seven for two,

1309
01:34:17,319 --> 01:34:23,359
forty five for three yeah, forty
five dollars. Oh god, it's so

1310
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:30,159
sad. Sometimes you gotta go a
pound forty five dollars for three hours and

1311
01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:32,720
a hooker for twenty bucks for under
one hundred dollars, that's great at me,

1312
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,159
you can't even get you can't go
to you're under seventy five. If

1313
01:34:36,239 --> 01:34:41,159
you can't go to dinner for that, that's what you'd give me for your

1314
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,399
How long as the ten in the
power Block huer in three hours at the

1315
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,840
Gates Hotel? Hell yeah, maybe
let's go. I wonder I think that

1316
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:53,600
we should get Gates Motel gifts or
two it gets to give away out there

1317
01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:58,920
on the podcast. You wouldn't mega
millions, you wouldn't scratch off. You

1318
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:04,159
could probably buy the Gates Hotel.
Put something decent there. I don't know,

1319
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:09,199
some people may need that in their
life. There's a purpose for those

1320
01:35:09,279 --> 01:35:12,880
things there, you know what I
mean, it's called Poundtown. Well probably,

1321
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,560
I'm sure there's hookers and things that
need a place, and that's what

1322
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,760
they do. As long as someone's
getting killed, what do I care?

1323
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,640
No, it's getting hurt. And
because the money's green and it ain't fake,

1324
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,039
right, I mean it's look at
money's green and the card don't decline

1325
01:35:27,079 --> 01:35:30,199
and there's a cash I'm sure I
would almost bet my life there's at least

1326
01:35:30,239 --> 01:35:34,880
one hundred or one hundred and fifty
dollars cash DEPOSITI if you're paying cash for

1327
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:40,600
security for security deposits for security at
the Gates motelity either one of them.

1328
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:45,039
I oh, I guarantee there are
you going in a second go in there

1329
01:35:45,119 --> 01:35:49,560
on a cocaine thing, blow the
place to hang and destroy the room.

1330
01:35:50,039 --> 01:35:54,039
They want their one hundred and fifty
Hang on, I'm calling back to the

1331
01:35:54,119 --> 01:36:00,439
Gates Motel. I don't believe you. I would bet that you cannot be

1332
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:06,119
completed on the cash, and I
bet you on your card they still authorize

1333
01:36:06,199 --> 01:36:16,920
the security deposit. How many help
you? You have a lovely voice?

1334
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,199
You know that, And I know
that sounds kind of creepy because it like

1335
01:36:21,279 --> 01:36:24,840
this is the first thing that somebody's
saying to you, But when he is,

1336
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:29,840
it's so pleasant. All right,
So here's my question, because we

1337
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,960
called you just a few minutes ago, and you said it was forty five

1338
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:36,000
dollars for three hours, thirty seven
for two or something like that, and

1339
01:36:36,159 --> 01:36:44,159
eighty seven overnight if you paid cash. But is there a room deposit in

1340
01:36:44,279 --> 01:36:46,600
addition? Like do you need a
deposit in case? Because I got to

1341
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:50,000
think if you're renting by the hour, sometimes there's some people that come in

1342
01:36:50,079 --> 01:36:54,359
there that probably do bad things in
the room, like hurt, but you

1343
01:36:54,399 --> 01:37:00,520
know, destroy things. Most of
our people are local regular so we don't

1344
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:03,680
really have too many problems because we
know them. But the thirty seven and

1345
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:08,439
forty five includes a two dollars key
deposit which you would get back when you

1346
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:12,960
check out. Look at that,
so really it's thirty five and forty three.

1347
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,119
Yeah, but no deposit for any
sort of damages or incidentals or anything

1348
01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:25,119
like that. No, what the
Jacuzzi suites there is a twenty five dollars

1349
01:37:25,159 --> 01:37:28,039
deposit. How much is well not
hang on a second, you needn't tell

1350
01:37:28,039 --> 01:37:32,680
me about the Jacuzzi suitees. How
much are the Jacuzi suites? Let's see

1351
01:37:33,079 --> 01:37:38,279
one up to on a car to
be one fifteen total mode deposit if you

1352
01:37:38,399 --> 01:37:42,119
pay cash, it's one ten,
So it's a positively one thirty five.

1353
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,760
Do you need it? Do you
need a deposit? With cash? But

1354
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:49,520
not with credit? That's right?
Credit? Gotcha? All right? Yeah?

1355
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:56,279
Do you guys do give certificates?
Now? Have you ever been too?

1356
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,960
But no? Did you ever have
you ever been in the jacuzi rooms?

1357
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:02,960
Oh? Yeah, we clean them. Have you ever been in the

1358
01:38:03,039 --> 01:38:10,079
jacuzzi? No? Would you get
into one of the jacuzzis? Well?

1359
01:38:10,199 --> 01:38:13,079
Not here? I work here and
then you know, I'll be there in

1360
01:38:13,119 --> 01:38:15,039
an hour. We'll get it.
How long have you? How long have

1361
01:38:15,119 --> 01:38:21,079
you been played it to Keate's Motel
thirteen? What's the craziest ship you've ever

1362
01:38:21,119 --> 01:38:30,680
seen? There? Yeah? You
to your imagination? Really is that?

1363
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:39,560
Does it really get that wild?
I don't know, Okay, not generally

1364
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:44,000
now it's usually just pretty quiet.
Yeah, I gotta think that. I

1365
01:38:44,079 --> 01:38:48,680
mean, you know, the hourly
stuff. There's people discreet, well,

1366
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,039
just pull off the side of the
road, take a little napkin back on

1367
01:38:51,079 --> 01:38:55,600
the road. There's that. There's
also people who might be going, you

1368
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:59,159
know, working a certain profession and
they need that room. That's right.

1369
01:39:00,399 --> 01:39:02,960
I'm not on the radio, am
I. Why would you even ask that

1370
01:39:03,119 --> 01:39:10,840
question? You guys sound like like
a radio. We are a podcast.

1371
01:39:12,399 --> 01:39:15,680
Oh well, it's no big deal. Oh no, am I being recorded?

1372
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:19,960
Yeah, but it's no big deal. It's a podcast. You're fine.

1373
01:39:20,039 --> 01:39:28,920
No one listens. What's the name
of the podcast? Billified Villified?

1374
01:39:30,239 --> 01:39:35,119
We'll look you up later. Okay, it's Billified, the Bill Moran podcast.

1375
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:42,399
M anywhere you find podcasts. Did
you ever listen to the radio in

1376
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,960
town? I listened to it in
the car. Yeah, do you ever

1377
01:39:46,039 --> 01:39:50,439
listen? I was on the radio
for a long time. Sound like it?

1378
01:39:53,279 --> 01:39:57,800
Okay, this is fun. This
is the stuff I like. Now

1379
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:03,960
I want to go out and go
What you doing? That's the next bit

1380
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:11,840
for that with his Bible tracks.
Oh god, I would love it if

1381
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:16,520
Dandy did in my own radio.
She's a very pleasant woman. Yeah what

1382
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,479
I said, putting up with our
bullshit. I just want to know if

1383
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:23,439
she also bought a Powerball ticket,
and if she did, would she buy

1384
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:27,439
the Gates motel. I wonder if
she'll come ask her if she if we

1385
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:29,760
lend her tend to buy tickets,
how much she'd have to give us back?

1386
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:32,840
Okay? I wonder if she'll come
back to us or she'll just leave

1387
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:40,840
us hanging here. They have Dakouzzi
sweets. Why am I intrigued by this?

1388
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,680
Do you think swingers going? Now? Swingers usually go to their homes?

1389
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:47,640
Right, all right, well I
should get way. Hang on,

1390
01:40:48,039 --> 01:40:53,720
I have I have two more questions
for you. Okay, no, no,

1391
01:40:53,800 --> 01:41:00,199
no, good questions. One did
you buy your powerball tickets? No?

1392
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:04,119
I never played the lottery? Okay, if if you loaned someone ten

1393
01:41:04,199 --> 01:41:10,039
dollars, they bought a powerball ticket
and they hit for the billion, how

1394
01:41:10,119 --> 01:41:16,439
much should they give you? I
don't know whatever they're conscious? Six page?

1395
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:21,199
Yeah, okay, very very pleasant. Yeah, you're you're like you're

1396
01:41:21,359 --> 01:41:27,920
you're pretty solid, aren't you as
a human being? No, you are

1397
01:41:28,159 --> 01:41:30,920
like you're very nice, You're very
patient. And that was a great answer.

1398
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:35,840
That was the right answer. I
think I want to We're gonna come

1399
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:40,920
down someday. We want to interview
you in person. Oh no, why

1400
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,359
can we could we play a game
there? What you're doing at the Gates

1401
01:41:45,399 --> 01:41:49,880
Hotel? No? No, I
gotta go though, I'm sorry. All

1402
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:56,319
right, right, all right,
thanks. See, even even when she

1403
01:41:56,399 --> 01:42:03,319
had to go, she was pleasant. Yeah, she jacuzzi sweets. Man,

1404
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:06,039
there ain't enough climbing in the count. No, no, no,

1405
01:42:06,119 --> 01:42:11,640
no, somebody loses a bet.
They gotta get in the tub at the

1406
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:19,479
Gates Motel. Suit or no suit, No suit for Kevin Mura and Bill

1407
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,319
Moran, We'll see you tomorrow unless
we win the billion