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Hey, it's Tuesday, March tenth, twenty fifteen. You're listening to the

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Giant Bomb Cast. Guys, we
did it. We did it. We

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made it back to March. We
didn't freeze to death in Boston. Oh

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yeah, that too, I almost
did. We're all still alive. I

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lost I lost my sweatshirt. I
actially left it behind after our panel.

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Really, yeah, you braved the
wilds of Boston. We walked a mile

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after dinner that night, after we
had dinner on Saturday night. I think

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it was. Yes, I understand
why everyone on Twitter and Boston has been

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complaining so much, because the snow
situation and the traffic and the roads and

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the way it's all set up like
it was a pain in the ass to

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get anywhere. That's forty five minutes
to take a two mile of the city

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is under siege by snow. Yeah, it's it's crazy. It's really messed

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up. Yeah. Also, oh
my god, some of that snow is

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disgusting. Yeah. Yeah, wow, that's what happens when it doesn't melt.

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It han't every year in many aposts, but it doesn't melt, and

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road crap and slushy and shitty,
and someone sure, you expect a lot

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of that, but like we were
standing outside of a bar where smokers might

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congregate. Oh yeah, yeah,
I was just counting the hundreds of cigarette

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butts stuck in the snowball there.
I heard they had to like bulldoze the

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snow just a certain area, Yes, because there's just so much of it.

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They just couldn't get rid of it. Yeah. Eventually ended up pushing

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it into the sea. Yeah.
Yeah, they said, I got to

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like five stories tall, and then
they're like, fucking we can't stack it

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any higher than this. I really
thought about that, like, where are

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we gonna put all this snow?
I wish I could have seen that five

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story tall pile of snow flame throwers
you want to solve with the snow problem.

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Supposedly somebody did that really and got
arrested. That's what I was told.

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That a crime. That was Yeah, me, that sounds like a

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civic duty to me, exactly WT
forty and a lighter. Uh huh.

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I thought the pushing it into the
bay the Harvard whatever solution sounded pretty good,

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but then I was reminded that there's
a lot of chemicals and stuff that

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snow is filthy and disgusting with road
crap and also whatever they're putting down to

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try to keep the snow from Yea, all that weird salt stuff stuff like

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that that's already salt water. Salt
has chemicals in it. Yeah, sodium.

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Everything is you have chemicals in you? Yeah? Probably rugg Oh no,

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just like processed foods and stuff.
Oh yeah, I wore two coats,

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did you. Yeah it was cold. Yeah, I was trying to

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wear it. I was trying to
wear a track jacket and then that sweatshirt

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over it. And then once I
lost the sweatshirt, the hood the hooded

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sweatshirt. It was a problem.
I would think you'd go hoodie, and

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then the hoodie was hoodie was very
thick. Okay, track jacket was very

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not not you know. I mean
the video game industry is long legacy of

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coats over hoodies, I know.
But the alard is not necessarily a warm

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configuration because it requires you have a
pretty thin hoodie to wear the blazer over

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its fair blazers themselves, they're not
warm. Sure, he was doing it

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more for fashion up there in the
Pacific Northwest. I picked the wrong city

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in time of year to get rid
of all of my hair because the first

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time I went outside, it is
just like, oh wow, that was

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keeping my head warm. It turns
out, yeah, I was. I

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was wondering how that was going to
go. It was just got real cold.

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Okay, Yeah the bold move.
Yeah, walking back from the restaurant

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to the hotel, which was about
a mile walk without proper clothing for it

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was maybe not the smartest move.
Yeah, I'd say it was about what

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like twenty at that point. Yeah, that was That was the coldest day

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of our trip there. Normally it
was like thirty you know, and basically

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anything about thirty two, Like I
could stand outside like nobody's business long as

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I wasn't windy, who cares,
You're not gonna freeze. But that one

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day when we woke up, it
was like nine degrees and I was like,

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well this, Like Vinnie and I
got up early to head over to

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shoot some stuff with Max from Cards
Against Humanity, and like standing outside,

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I was like, yeah, I
was like nine degrees. Fuck this,

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what the fuck this is? It
was like it was like I don't want

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to have my hands out using my
phone kind of weather exactly. The fingers

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starting and I just you know,
like I'm from here. I don't know

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gloves, I don't know fucking warm
hat any of that ship. So I

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had some thermals that I wore most
of the time, and that worked okay,

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But jeez. I was reading a
book about the Lewis and Clark expedition

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called Undaunted Courage by Stephen Nambrose,
one of my favorite books. One of

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the chapters starts which with the phrase, uh, it was so cold a

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man's penis would freeze if he wasn't
quick about it. Quick about what urinating?

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Oh you know, okay, got
it in any number of things.

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Yeah. Really, it's a great
book. That's that sounds like an unpleasant

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condition to be it. Yep,
just like Boston was over the weekend,

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but now we're back, we are
back Packs was a fairly pleasant. Pacax

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was fun. Yeah, pa was
packs. Yeah, we did some stuff

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that's fun. Maybe, you know, Okay, I didn't want to be

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mean, but you know a lot
of people are going around saying, like

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the show floor is maybe a little
lackluster, which was not a knock against

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any particular exhibitor, Like it just
felt maybe a little sparse. Yeah,

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then and then like it as the
weekend went on, like I was reminded

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that the g DC packs overlap was
not just something that we kept joking about

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being a pain in the ass exactly. Yeah. Like I started realizing like,

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oh, you know, like companies
that you expect to always be at

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packs like say, cappy, we're
not there this time. And it started

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sinking in like yeah, like people
actually did. Like it sounded like from

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what I was hearing, in some
cases, people actually even paid for the

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booth space. Yeah. I heard
that there were Yeah that there was make

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it was booth space that was assigned
and paid for and or I assume paid

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for and all that stuff that then
just they know, showed the show,

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whether you know, the weather,
whether the weather was keeping them away or

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GDC or something like. I don't
know, but yeah, yeah, I

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mean it was like Overwatch seemed like
the biggest like big game there or a

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big publisher game there. I guess
I played that. Yeah, I made

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interesting You cadn't play that. Yeah, it's a first person shooter. Yeah.

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I spent some time looking at it
and said, wow, this looks

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like a TF. This looks like
two. You've got a variety of skills

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that seemed to shoot in various fashions
when I you know, they put out

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that footage before, and I think
that kind of like revealed it a little

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bit too, Like, oh,
this is gonna be a class based shooter.

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Yeah, clearly. But then when
you see like, oh, the

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medic has a heel beam and then
here's someone banging on a fucking turret,

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you're like, yeah, they're just
making like t F two with more classes.

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Yes, it is very t F
two esk. But yeah, like

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you when you it is almost a
little overwhelming because there's like fifteen characters to

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pick from in the build that they
had, and one would assume that like,

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well, I guess I don't know. Actually I'm sitting here thinking like,

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oh, they'll eventually have tons of
like a Doda like size roster or

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something like that. I would assume. Yeah, but I guess maybe that's

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not a safe assumption. Oh yeah, especially depending on how they monetize it.

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Yeah, if it's free to play
and they're selling characters, then sure.

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Anyway that here's the Storm isn't out
yet, right, it's in some

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kind of clothes beta at the moment. All right, So they got two

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games in the hopper, Yeah,
I think if you count the StarCraft third

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expand sure that will come out someday. Here's the storm. I haven't really

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followed that, just not being in
the moobas, But are they positioning this

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as being like a competitor to League
and Doda like on that level? Is

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that what they're shooting? Not really, it's a lot more kind I use

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the word casual. It's friendlier.
Does that plays? It seems like it's

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designed to be a little friendlier.
If I was maybe curious about actually playing

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a Mooba correctly, this might be
one to get. I mean, you're

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gonna get the same basic flow of
a match, you know, like they're

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you know, they're still towers and
lanes. But do you still buy stuff?

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No, there are no items to
all right, okay, that is

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a huge pot. There's no big
store with confusing stuff. There are no

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items to buy all the characters.
You just that's meaning like mid match,

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not like yea yeah, like like
you don't have to go like I need

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my boots like that, like all
that shit. None of that just overwhelming

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to me. Also, the team
all shares a common experience pool, so

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everybody just levels together. Okay,
Yeah, it's a lot friendlier, easier

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to survive and not get caught out
and just murdered and stuff. So you

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probably have a good time with it. I might try that give it a

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shot. I'd be you know,
i'd be curious to hear what you said

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about it, because I'd want to
give it a genuine shot because the people

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love that stuff so much, but
it just seems so impenetrable. You have

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an iPad, I do Fates Forever, Like I've watched you play that on

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a upf Yeah. Yeah, that's
a that's a very accessible moba that I

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quite like. And there's that what's
that other one Vain Glory? Yeah,

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I think so. It was on
stage at that one Apple thing. That's

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right. Yeah, that's the only
like the statement anyone has ever said about

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that game is like it was on
the stage of that thing. I haven't

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heard anyone say yes, it's good
or I haven't either you know or not.

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So anyway, we're back. How
was everybody strip back? This is

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good. We're all kind of piling
into the office. Yeah, my my

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flap was knocked today outstanding. My
flight out was really good. I get

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up at three in the morning to
go to my flight delayed, and so

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I had to sit around the airport
for a while. It sucks even more.

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That was that was rough. I
was tired. The worst thing about

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delayed flights is you can never count
on them being delayed. You still have

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to show up when it might leave
because they might fix it. It's good

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time. What constitute is a good
flight for you? There was no one

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next to me. There was quite
a bit of leg I got into one

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of the like I was on Jet
Blue. I decided to pay them their

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blood money for a better seat,
their leg money. Yeah, their their

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leg money, and so there was
power at the seat. They have free

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Wi Fi right now because we're beta
testing it, no kidding, And actually

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it's weird. They have two levels
of service, like the beta one is

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free right now, and then there's
nine dollars an hour that they say,

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like if you want to transfer large
files or play a game or something.

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Who so much for net neutrality?
And yeah, well yeah right, and

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that flies just wondering what it's a
six hour flight? Okay, So it

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made me wonder, like, you
know, are they actually can they actually

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guarantee the ping time is required to
play a game? Oh man, I'd

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love to know how fast that thing
actually is. I thought I've ever heard

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of that. I thought about paying
for the upgraded service and I'm just trying

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something. But I only laptop my
Mac. I don't have a lot of

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games on there to test it with. So whatever, that's pretty high,

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isn't it. Like isn't most Wi
Fi like nine or ten for the flight?

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Well, so they're like they're standard
grade, like actually just fine compared

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to every other Wi Fi. Was
totally free, no, I mean,

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but just on in general flights like
most most most of the time, they

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don't charge per hour, right right
exactly. It's like, you know,

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hey, it's twelve dollars for the
flight, right or you know, eighteen

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dollars for the full day in case
you got multiple flights or what do you

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st where it's like ninety minutes or
whatever it's like, or by sixty minutes

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get thirty free. But I always
just to the full flight thing. Yeah

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that seems oh okay, Yeah,
I guess I've never actually looked at that

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that much, but yeah, I
don't know, so, I you know,

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I ended up I was able to
actually get some stuff done on the

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flight, which was nice. On
the flight out flight back was like the

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people behind me. I was in
the second to last row. The people

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in the last row. They got
there and then they pulled out a bunch

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of wet wipes to wipe down the
fucking seats and they were like, don't

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sit down. Yeah. They had
a kid with him. You know,

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it was very precocious, not like
crying young, but like you know,

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like he was like, okay,
I won't sit down, you know,

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like that kind of like like doesn't
have the voice control stuff yet, fasting

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around, yes, sir. And
then that kid sat right behind me and

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kick the chair the whole time.
Whatever. I mean, you know that's

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fine. That's should bring a pencil
with you so you can turn around and

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then snap it with your thumb.
Yeah, yeah that actually, Oh I

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hadn't thought about that. That's a
good way to get somebody's attention. But

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as they were wiping down the seats, like I just like I just I

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was disgusted. I'm disgusted by parents
that act that way that whole like,

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we're gonna keep these this kid away
from as many germs as possible, and

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then it's gonna somehow mutate into some
super disease later on. Sure, or

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something like that, like it is
patient zero, Yeah exactly, like I

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just I believe in kids rolling around
in the dirt, Yeah that's fair and

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being all fucking fucked up and bleeding
all the time. Exactly. Ever you

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ever read vote for me? These
kids will have skinned up elbows in no

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time. Get under goddamn bike,
bike. I don't let your kid roam

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around in where's it Maryland? Right? Where? Where's that going down?

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Right now? What I'm talking about? No, there's like parents that that

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are now being hit with CPS allegations
of neglect because they let their kids like

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walk a mile away from the house
or something and whatever. Get I forget

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the details. Yeah, I don't
know. Whatever. The world's a lot

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crazier than it was when I was
a kid back in our day. But

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sure, seeing kids on airplanes and
airports is really good at making you not

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want to ever have kids. There
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when I showed up to fly back. I don't know, like just like

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spring break or it's not because they
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high school aged at best. Okay, I'm talking about like, you know,

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just old enough to be running around
and be a huge painting ass like

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you know, people with like multiple
kids like one in the Star two running

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around and it's like kids just don't
seem to under stand, like, hey,

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just walk with me and don't run
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You know, we have to go
get on a plane. Why don't you

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understand this? And you run shit
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I don't know why you can't just
calmly explain to a kid like,

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hey, quit being an asshole for
a second. You know, when we

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get home, you can do it
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funny thing though. Way, yeah, I don't want to have kids.

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Yeah, well, well now we're
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deal? Food is? Like?
What is that? Let me tell you

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about the shopping cart I got the
other day, Brad. We had the

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guy on our flight right next to
us that was playing a iPad game with

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the sound blaring, but he had
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But it was like a super hexicon
type thing to where like this like super

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loud techno music would go and he
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over again, and everyone around him
hated him. But nobody he was.

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He was across the aisle from us, right, Yeah, so, I

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mean I kept hearing it coming from
somewhere else, like is the PA on

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on this plane? Like what's going
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he was plugged in, but he
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he could not tell that the He
was probably the only one who couldn't

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hear the sound and everyone else was
getting so fucking annoying. Why I don't

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know why the person next to him
didn't just sit their fault. Yeah yeah,

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yeah, anyway, Yeah, we
did our panel. Yeah, yeah,

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panel happen. Speaking of audio boy, Yeah, yes, more sound

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checks next time we we That's probably
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time loading in the thing. Yeah, loading in that thing that we didn't

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necessarily get up on the microphones and
talk ahead of time. But I don't.

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Yeah, you're right, we should
should have checked, Like you know.

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It wasn't until after the fact that
we kind of compared notes and realized

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like, oh, none of us
could fucking shit up there. Yeah.

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I thought you guys couldn't even hear
I couldn't hear each other. Yeah,

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all I could hear was my own
voice bouncing off the back of the room.

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I could hear I could hear you
and Vinny because you're right next to

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me, so the sound's actually coming
out of your mouth. We're making it

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to my ears. Yeah, but
Dan and Alex on the other end of

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the table like just checkers, especially
like Q and A stuff like yeah hear.

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Yeah. I apologize if there was
anything halting about the panel, but

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yeah, pretty hard. Hard to
have a conversation and you can't understand half

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the people on there. Yeah,
yeah, but you know whatever, we

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had a good time. It was
good. People seem to enjoy it,

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so yes, that's cool. Dan
learned some valuable lessons. Indeed, I

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did. I hope. I got
so many people coming up to me afterwards

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saying like, did you really not
know they're gonna do that? I was

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like no, if you watch it
again, when they come up to do

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their thing, you can oddibly hear
me say to Alex like, oh good,

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I can go pee, and then
like Alex like oh great, thanks

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for telling me that, And then
Pope says like Dan, you can stay

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Like I was totally ready to run
off and go pee, and it's like,

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oh, I gotta do this whole
game show thing I had no idea

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about. Yeah, that was fun
though. That's uh, that's at least

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the second time they have sprung a
bit on us without our knowledge. Yeah,

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that's by design. Well, I
know, I mean a lot of

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time and everything. Yeah, I
mean, I'm I'm I'm always asked like,

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you know, hey, I mean, we could walk you through this

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if you want. I'm like,
no, just surprised me. Yeah,

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I asked Drake to tell me,
yeah, you got twenty minutes before because

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I'm like, I need to know
where I need to be. And yeah.

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Yeah, those guys always come up
with some really fun ideas that would

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not work to build an entire panel
around exactly. So we're glad to provide

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them a venue exactly. Yeah.
Good stuff. Uh, well, now

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we're back. Yeah, what the
hell's going on? I mean, I

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don't know there's stuff out this week
now, you know, we're kind of

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back and and I'm I got you
know, I got back to an email

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about E three lodging. Damn it. Oh wow, so fuck that's what's

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up. Huh. Yeah, I
was doing the mental inventory this morning.

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E three is like, good,
what three months away or something like that.

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That's far enough. Is that that's
the next convention, right, three

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months, that's a good window the
next main thing. Yeah, I primes

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in August, Yes, okay,
I think so all right, TGS is

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in August, games comes and our
games comes in August, t GS September,

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sure, yeeber like EVOS in July. So I don't know the way,

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we haven't. I don't know what
we'll go to what we want,

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but we have a we have a
big live live show between now and E

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three, which is prison of our
own making. That's right. Fill that

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prison up, YEPU other inmates in
there, that's right, block them all

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in lock down. Why don't we
really wrap up whatever there is to wrap

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up? Coming out of packs?
Getting back town? What's been going on?

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Yeah? Yeah, let's just kind
of like, you know, because

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our panel was day one of packs, we'd only had the first day to

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make the rounds. Yeah, I
was kind of running around and you know,

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there was the stuff on Sunday,
the wrestling stuff that you know,

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we kind of were getting ready for. And you know, I don't play

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a ton of games of packs.
I always kind of walk around packs and

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think, like, okay, you
know, these are the things that I

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want to make sure we look at
when we get back. Yeah, it's

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a good place to like recon stuff
where you want to follow up with the

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developer. Yeah something. It also
is the place I feel the least comfortable

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cutting in line. Yeah. But
the one thing that I actually regret really

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not uh like getting time to see
is down well played. Yes, I

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watched that. That looks awesome.
I've seen seen video of a while ago.

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Like I think it was originally supposed
to be for phones and now it's

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coming. I believe it is coming
to PC. I played it on a

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phone, okay, a PC there, but the monitor was turned in ninety

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degrees. Yeah. I think sometimes
it could be deceptive when they're in portrait

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mode and look taller than they are. But it looked like a super wide

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screen monitor. Huh. Yeah,
Like I don't know if it was one

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of those twenty one by nine ones
or whatever, but it looked but it

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looked like it was super taller monitor
you see a lot at one time.

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Yeah. Anyway, like, yeah, there's there's footage of that out there.

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There has been for a while,
and if you haven't seen it,

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like it's it's they're kind of going
for like a game Boy. Look,

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I guess with the color it's I
guess it's try color black, white,

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and red. Right. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's really cool.

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You your your character is basically just
falling down a well, like there are

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there are platforms that you land on
and then you can jump past, uh

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and you can shoot out of your
feet, so you really only have two

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controls. It's left and right and
shoot. And they're also like bricks that

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are in the way they have to
shoot to get by, and their enemies

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flying around and you shoot them in
gems pop out of them, and there

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are uh like Spelunky style shops as
you fall down the well. It's not

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an endless thing. I thought it
was for a while, but I got

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to the bottom of one and then
there was a next level. So yeah,

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you upgrade your health and your There's
a bunch of other little tiny systems

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I didn't really good handle on,
but it's super fun. Okay. I

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knew I kind of grasped the action
component of it. I didn't realize there

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was all the stuff with the shops
and stuff. Yeah, it's kind of

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a Japanese indie game. Yep.
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, kind of

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had my eye on it for a
little while. I guess it sounds like

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Devolver maybe picking up coming out of
GDC that was getting a lot of buzz.

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Yeah, I would I would love
for Japan to re emerge as this

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like haven of innovation. Yeah,
that's that's what the that Bits Summit thing

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that Milky put together, uh that
they do, I guess in Osaka it's

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like a it's an indie meet up
in Japan and they get a bunch of

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you know, single developers together because
there's like a ton of that stuff that's

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been happening all along. It just
doesn't make it over to the US very

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often. Lava Lana and stuff like
that. It's kind of you know that

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like that made it over the story
story on Spikes, but there's not much

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Yeah, so that stuff can can
kind of fall through the cracks over there.

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And you know, now with their
just being this this big boom around

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those games of that size, uh, you know, it's it's like making

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sure that those developers are getting connected
with the right people to help them bring

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their games to more platforms and more
territories and stuff like that. So yeah,

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I hope that continues to happen.
Yeah. Yeah, so was that

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mainly being positioned as a as a
mobile games, a phone game. I

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assume they they had phones there,
uh that you played them on Okay,

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I think it would be great.
It's a great I played it on the

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phone. It was. It was
fun. Also, I played a board

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game. They had a indie board
game section separate from like the other half

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of the XPOHA, which is just
board games, but they had right next

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to the indie mini booth, the
indie board game section. I played a

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game called Mech Deck, A great
game. It's a great name. Yeah,

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built a deck for your mix.
So it's not like a collectible card

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game, which I assumed it was. But you go there and it looks

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really intimidating at first because there's like
uh mech figurines and hexes and cards and

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like a little wooden cubes that you
assigned to your cards and whatever. But

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it's not actually that complicated. It's
like a very streamlined, uh like turn

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based mech game. Uh. It
starts with a draft where you all pick

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parts for your mech uh in the
in the form of cards, but each

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card, which is different, has
an assigned physical plastic piece, so Once

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you get all your cards, you
assemble your mech and then build the full

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mech. Yes, yeah, that's
cool. And they're you know, like

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three inches high. And if you
if you take a hit, if like

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you lose in a dice roll,
you assign which part gets uh damaged on

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your mech, and if that part
gets hit twice, you have to take

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it off your Wow, that's awesome, that's cool. And so you've got

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like, uh, your your engine
card has a certain amount of like energy

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and that's the form of like three
physical green cubes that you then divert to

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your legs to move yourself. And
then you've got uh, your weapon cubes

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that you then divert to other systems
to power those per move. Sounds like

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a lot of stuff to keep it
track of, it's not. You don't

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have a screen there. Well,
it's all on the cards and it's all

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like visually. You just move them, you know, assign if you want

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to assign two to your missiles,
you just put the two little cubes on

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your card and it's it's really easy
to follow and and really cool. D

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Yeah, those are the two games
I played at packs. Oh I'm trying

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to think what else I saw Dan
you see anything else around the show?

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Oh, you know the stuff I
talked about on the panel Action Verge.

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I'm just kind of head over heels
with from what I've played. It's it's

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pretty fantastic. It's it's just such
an awesome love letter too. I'd say

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Super Metroid. It feels like I
see well to Super Metroid specifically. Uh

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yeah, I mean why I think
that the items aren't necessarily directly analogous,

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like you know, the concepts and
definitely the look of it right and that

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sort of stuff, Like they're definitely
trying to he he is definitely trying to

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evoke Metroid, but at the same
time, but at the same time,

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like the weapons don't line up,
you know, the weapons are different,

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like and then the way you switch
between them, you know, using the

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right stick and stuff like that,
it's different. Like there are little differences

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and stuff. But yeah, the
presentation is clearly like this is like a

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new Metroid based I don't I don't
know how deep we should get into it

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this week since it's Oh yeah,
I wanted, but I was going to

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say, like some of the stuff
I've seen in there seems like it's kind

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of intentionally subverting what you expect sure
out of a game like that. Yeah,

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uh yeah, we'll talk more about
that once I'm done in the whole

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game. Jeff, you're playing it
too, and I think we're both yep

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like that a lot. Yeah that
does look super cool. Yeah. Yeah.

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The Occulus stuff I talked about on
the panel, which I just continue

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to be blown away by that thing
every time I do anything with it.

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I didn't even play anything. It
was just a hey, wow, look

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at this dinosaur walk over you.
Hey, let's understanding top of building and

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it blows me away. Where did
you? Was that in the Oculus booth?

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Yeah? So they had in the
middle they had the like Samsung Gear

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ones, which is supposed to be
for phones, and that actually had like

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a little control or people were playing
games. But they just took me into

408
00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:22.079
a side room and they had this
platform that you stand on and they hook

409
00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:26.079
it into your head, and uh, I had my glasses on and they

410
00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:30.039
it works pretty well like over the
glasses and uh yeah, man, It's

411
00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:32.839
just I didn't play anything, didn't
hold the controller. But still I'm just

412
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:36.519
maybe I'm just a huge sucker for
that stuff. But I absolutely love it.

413
00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:40.200
I want to say they have what
was that crystal cove I think is

414
00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:42.039
the headset they had there, which
is newer than the K two that they're

415
00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:45.680
selling right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had to look look

416
00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.160
great, looked incredible, Like it
was just basically this rapid fire like,

417
00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:51.160
oh, hey, what if you
were on an alien planet? Hey what

418
00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:53.720
if you were in a dinosaur museum? Did you? Yeah? God,

419
00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.039
it was so cool. Yeah,
the one like stuff. Can you still

420
00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:00.880
see the pixels a little bit?
Yeah? And the person that put the

421
00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:03.839
thing on me said that the Samsung
Gear VR had better resolution. Oh really

422
00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.119
yeah yeah, but still, man, even with it, it has a

423
00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:11.200
little bit of that screen door effect. But like the Unreal four demo was

424
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:15.839
so cool, and it's the frame
rate that all seemed perfectly fine. Yeah.

425
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.400
Yeah, the Unreal fourth thing was
really cool, just like super slow

426
00:25:18.400 --> 00:25:21.160
mo, you know, gratuitous you
know, cars flipping over you and a

427
00:25:21.359 --> 00:25:23.759
can flying by your face, and
it was just fun to turn and look

428
00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:26.079
at all this crap and debris and
I don't know, I just I think

429
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:29.319
it's the coolest guy, damn thing
in the world. Like, I think

430
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.640
I'm more excited for Oculus than God. I can't think of any other piece

431
00:25:32.680 --> 00:25:34.799
of technology that's come out of video
games, like almost ever that I've been

432
00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:37.960
just excited for it. I think
it's great. Yeah, I just I

433
00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:41.680
just hope they make Yeah. Well
yeah, I tell the sensor now.

434
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.359
I just hope they make good on
it with you know, games that you

435
00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:47.960
can't do any other way, or
things you can't do any other way.

436
00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:49.880
Well, you know, like falling
up on last week's discussion with the valve

437
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:52.640
stuff getting announced, right, you
know that thing is coming out this year,

438
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:57.200
so like we're gonna we're going to
have to see more than tech demos,

439
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:00.960
very surely because if they launch with
no I think the detect emos than

440
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:03.880
the things d away. So wait, wait, dealway is coming to the

441
00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.440
Oculus. Yes, o, God, it's so wet, it's just dripping.

442
00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:15.319
Everything has just been sprayed down.
I just think it really does,

443
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:17.440
Like you know, I mentioned on
the panel, like, you know,

444
00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:19.480
first person shooters obviously have been done
for a really long time, but I

445
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.359
think Oculus adds so much to it. So like in the hours that I

446
00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:26.400
played Half Live two on like the
first version of the dev kit thing,

447
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.039
I brought home and played a ton
of Half Life two, which yeah,

448
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:32.440
I half Live two is an awesome
game in its own right, But like

449
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:34.400
there's that part near the beginning where
the big helicopters are there when you're in

450
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.000
the city and you have to kind
of like shim me along the second story

451
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:41.279
balcony to get inside a window or
whatever. And when you're playing that normally,

452
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:42.200
it's like, okay, whatever,
I gotta shim me across this thing.

453
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.920
And then I get in a window
with the oculus. Like you get

454
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.759
up there and like you're looking up
and you see the helicopter shooting down night

455
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.720
you and you look down and you
feel like, you know, it's scary,

456
00:26:51.799 --> 00:26:52.240
like, oh, I don't want
to fall. I'm high up,

457
00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:56.279
Like your body just kind of has
that physical response, and I think that

458
00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:57.880
adds so much to the experience.
I mean, here I am playing a

459
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:02.079
ten year old game, and it
was blowing me away more than any first

460
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.359
first shooter. It's come out and
ears sure, So yeah, I don't

461
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:08.119
know, I think it really substantially
adds to the first first shooter experience.

462
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.799
So I've got some tentative plans.
We'll see how these things go with scheduling

463
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:18.440
and stuff, but some plans to
convene a VR council who after last week,

464
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:19.799
I know some people that you know, managed to get in and try

465
00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:25.440
everything that's been announced since GDC,
and I want to hear about it.

466
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:29.519
Yeah, I want to hear some
first hand accounts because that's suck about.

467
00:27:29.559 --> 00:27:32.920
It's about to get real complicated,
right, you know. Competing standards,

468
00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:38.519
competing headsets, Yeah, competing like
like features. Yeah, yeah, competing

469
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:44.200
standards to a certain extent, but
like the concepts are similar that you'd imagine

470
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:45.400
like a lot of the work would
apply from one to the other. Yeah,

471
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.599
you you hope that. I mean, god, the nightmare scenario is

472
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.599
that like games are coming out that
only worked with one or two of the

473
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:53.880
headsets, right, Yeah, Like
it reminds me of like like when graphics

474
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:56.160
cards first started coming out in the
nineties, you know, and it's like

475
00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.519
you had a version of Quake for
this, and then for a version of

476
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.640
Quake for that. Yeah, God
forbid we run into that again. But

477
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.960
it doesn't seem like it's going that
way. My Reva t NT, yes,

478
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:12.920
the v Quake for the verite.
Yeah, like anyone have one of

479
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:22.079
those, right, fucking tile based
rendering whatever? Uh, let's see so

480
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.160
I did for packs wrap up.
There was one game that I played more

481
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:32.160
than anything else, Oh boy,
specifically the Airplane. I don't think the

482
00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.759
world is ready yet. I think
we need Jason for that. I would

483
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:41.759
love to hear Dan's opinion. I
really think we need Jason here well as

484
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.319
the learned sage, well, he's
not, he's not. It's a bad

485
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.880
game. I've got, You've got
thirty, you don't. I got thirties.

486
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.240
Okay. I wrote down some notes
on the Plane as I was playing

487
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:53.559
it, things that made me hate
it. Uh, you can't pause the

488
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.440
game. That sucks and these things
are on like timed fifty minute things.

489
00:28:56.440 --> 00:29:00.240
But you can totally pause the game. How you can bring up that mini

490
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.599
or whatever. But okay, let
me erase that note. Okay, so

491
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.400
how about closing your three DS?
Should I guess I would word? Okay?

492
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.000
Okay, Well knock that one off
to start with other things. It's

493
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.000
great game ever made, as it
turns out. Yeah, so yeah,

494
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.519
you kill things and you just gotta
stand over him, and you gotta hit

495
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.279
a a million times and you just
get a bunch of bullshit and it gets

496
00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:23.240
a lot faster as you duck First, Why would you okay this type of

497
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.319
bullshit too? Like why do you
have to sheath your weapon before you hit?

498
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.960
Like why can't I just hit a? And this game be user friendly?

499
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:32.960
And I get this fucking jaggy hide
or something that I don't know what

500
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:37.160
it does because the game doesn't explain
anything. It doesn't explain like catching bugs

501
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.880
and potions and honey and stuff like
you get the one thing that's like,

502
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:42.519
oh, put honey with this and
you'll get like a megapotion or whatever,

503
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.240
but the rest is all these fucking
bugs and stuff that it doesn't tell you

504
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:49.880
anything. And I wanted to catch
bugs and I bought a bugnet or whatever,

505
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.319
and I put it in my inventory. It's got a red axe over

506
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:55.519
it. No idea why I can't
use it put it on my inventory,

507
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:59.880
had the whole thing. Can't use
it for some damn reason. My may

508
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.200
complaint with it is if this game
came out over ten years ago on the

509
00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.880
PS two, people would say it
sucked because the controls are fucking got awful.

510
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.400
And I always kind of did come
out on the PS two and people

511
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.599
did say it sucked. The controls
were got awful, and they're still got

512
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:17.160
awful and I want to go now. They're a deliberate choice to make you.

513
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.720
That's bulls force you into making choices. There's small games like, Okay,

514
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.440
the reason I wanted to give this
another chance is because people compared it

515
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.960
to Dark Souls and it's like,
don't play the second action game. Play

516
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:27.039
this like a Dark Souls game.
And I was like, okay, I

517
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.519
tried Dark Souls out and I actually
really liked it a lot. I like

518
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.359
the kind of slow, deliberate combat
and stuff like that, and it's like,

519
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.599
Okay, I'll approach this in a
different way and maybe I'll like it

520
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:38.799
this time. And no, it's
not that it's slow and deliberate, it's

521
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:42.359
that it's not responsive at all.
I fucking controls are, dude, I

522
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:45.960
don't know. I find it to
be exactly the same thing as Dark Souls.

523
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:49.039
It's a Dark Souls pretty much.
Choose your movements and your attacks carefully,

524
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.839
like you know, there's no good
way to lock on he'll at the

525
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.440
time that it's judicious to do so
well. And then there's bullshit too,

526
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:56.400
where like healing, so yeah,
you can do the thing where you bring

527
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.359
out the spit and you gotta roast
the meat or whatever until on the right

528
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.000
thing. No, that's for stamina, okay, well whatever, like I

529
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.640
needed. I got meat and I
wanted to cook it, and then I

530
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:07.839
ran away and then I don't have
my spit anymore or whatever. The thing

531
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.359
was to roast uff, and there's
just nowhere. Like I went through the

532
00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:14.720
tutorials, I talked to fucking everyone
in the town, and the game does

533
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.400
not. It's the same reason I
said I didn't like Binding of Isaac.

534
00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:19.160
I don't like this fucking thing where
it's like, hey, here's a bunch

535
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:23.000
of bullshit. Better find a FAQ
or talk to someone that knows what's going

536
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:26.039
on. Like, No, the
game should fucking explain what you're doing,

537
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.799
and it shouldn't take fifteen hours to
get interesting. It is highly impenetrable.

538
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.960
I'll give you that. Why Why
is that fun? Why do people like

539
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:38.640
intentionally game? It's full of obscure
bullshit? Why? I have some misgivings

540
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.400
about games like that on fundamental grounds, but somehow find myself drawn to them

541
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.240
anyway, So I can't just start
get the appeal. Why would you prefer

542
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.039
that other than like, hey,
here's how you play this video game.

543
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.640
This is why we I think it's
not ready to have this conversation this week.

544
00:31:52.759 --> 00:32:00.480
It all comes together when you start
mastering those systems and string not in

545
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:01.640
the sense of like I'm an expert
on this, but in the sense of

546
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.720
like I don't have to think about
it anymore, Like you don't have to

547
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.200
think about the movement or the weapon
or the monster. Don't want to have

548
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.839
to get used to like just shitty
controls. I don't feel that's a concession

549
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:14.440
I should have to make. I
should expect the game to control well.

550
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:15.799
Well, the reason it doesn't have
lock on is because you might want to

551
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:20.240
target different parts, right, the
head and knox mad like their tails.

552
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.200
Yeah, I mean I'm just now
finding that apparently where you had hit the

553
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.000
monster effects what kind of loot you
get out of it? Yeah, I've

554
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:29.640
heard that, like to get the
time. I didn't know that. Yeah.

555
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:31.839
Interesting, But it just it doesn't
even explain things as simple ass Like

556
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:36.920
if it explained everything in a tutorial, that would be the most boring game.

557
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.400
It already is boring because it explains
a ton of stuff about how to

558
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:40.920
buy armor for my fucking cats or
whatever. Oh, but it would take

559
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:44.920
twenty hours to get to the game, if you why doesn't it take that

560
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.920
time to explain important stuff, like
hey, this question is because he'll be

561
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:50.599
reading the entire time. No,
no, no, I'm saying it'd be

562
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.079
as simple as this, So like
the quest will be like kill eight Kelby

563
00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.359
and then I'll, you know,
just show me a little picture what the

564
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.680
fuck a Kelby is instead of putting
me out in this world, and I

565
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:01.200
like, I'll run around and I
us all just hit stuff until I hope

566
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:05.200
it was a Kelby and I have
to go back into questinfo and see if

567
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.440
that was it. Instead, it's
spending all this time with people in the

568
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:09.920
town explaining to me how to fucking
send my cats out on missions, like

569
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:13.799
show me what I'm supposed to be
doing in the game. If you're going

570
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.400
to be doing tutorial stuff, don't
do this bullshit side stuff that I don't

571
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:20.359
even really need to know. I
think it's just it's fucking garbage the way

572
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.400
it explains everything. I don't understand
how people have the patience to put up

573
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:28.680
with this stuff. Com People should
expect more from video games than that bullshit.

574
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.640
And twenty fifteen it's it's I hate
it, hate it all right.

575
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:35.039
The man has spoken, I'm still
gonna give it more of a shot because

576
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.359
people say, like, oh,
what's you understand it's ten fifteen hours in

577
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.359
or whatever, which I agree,
Shit, I agree that expecting someone to

578
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:44.559
play for ten to fifteen hours in
order to get it is obnoxious. That's

579
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.839
why I don't like Assassin's Creed fucking
take five hours to like, get me

580
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:51.839
my Assassin's called. That's a completely
different things. That's just the general thing

581
00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:55.799
that's of storytelling and pacing, not
noting in general, regardless of genre,

582
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.640
I should be able to enjoy something
about a game with the first fucking three

583
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:05.839
hours much as five or fifteen.
I think's asking a lot. I think

584
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:13.760
though, that because each of those
systems is so deep that to get the

585
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:19.960
reward of knowing how to use all
of them in tandem, you need to

586
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:24.440
understand each of them separately. I
mean, do you need to understand the

587
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:29.480
fucking Palaco armour system? No?
Then why in at the very beginning of

588
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.039
the game if they don't want to
waste time with stupid tutorials? Am I

589
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:36.000
talking to some asshole cat for fucking
ten minutes? That wasn't ten minutes?

590
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:37.320
Well, I don't know it was
like thirty seconds, but you talk about

591
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.159
it would be text heavy or whatever
if you had to explain everything. Why

592
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:44.760
is it taking that precious time to
explain to me cat armor if it's not

593
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.360
important, or how to get a
new sweater for my fucking pig or whatever?

594
00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:51.639
Would you make the Mario armor for
your Palico? No. I talked

595
00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:52.360
to it for like two seconds,
and I was like, this doesn't seem

596
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.320
like an important thing. I need
to learn how to play the ac It

597
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:59.840
is not the most important. I
would say that once you master movement,

598
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:06.159
the weapons and reading a monster to
the point that you no longer have to

599
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:12.360
think about them, then like you
reach this like zen with the game,

600
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.400
and suddenly you are thinking about something
and then executing it and it's awesome.

601
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.920
Like you climb up, you climb
up some vines, you look down at

602
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.519
the monster, you jump off,
you slash it, you start writing it,

603
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.000
You stab it a whole bunch,
it throws you off, You rush

604
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:29.679
in, hit it with a bunch
of combos, and then dash away before

605
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.360
you get hit. Like, if
you can nail all of that stuff,

606
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:37.159
that feels amazing. I feel like
getting there, which requires you to feel

607
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.320
good about all these things takes a
long time because the systems are so deep.

608
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.400
I think all of those concepts applied
to Dark Souls. But Dark Souls

609
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:45.719
does it well and it gets you
into the experience quick, it controls better.

610
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.920
It's just an always a better game
than Monster Hun. Sure, I'm

611
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:54.840
not saying that like their onboarding process
is flawless. It is. Yes,

612
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:59.519
all, we're gonna table this conversation
topic. I feel like there are two

613
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.400
things like are that stick out to
me? Is like reasons why I don't

614
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:06.719
want to play Monster Hunter, and
it's for me. It was the first

615
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:08.519
time the monster ran away and I
had to run to some fucking other area

616
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:12.440
and track it down. I was
like, fuck this. And it was

617
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.119
the first time that I realized I
had to fucking stop and sharpen my fucking

618
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:17.320
weapon in the middle of the battle. Yeah, I was like, Okay,

619
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:21.000
I don't want to do this.
Yep, Like regardless of everything else,

620
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:22.880
Like that's not the type of game
I want to play, Like no,

621
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:28.079
thanks, I can seems right into
like maintenance in games, it's fucking

622
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.440
boring. Yeah, and like there's
a time and a place for it,

623
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.639
Like mid fight, you going like, oh, I gotta sharpen my thing.

624
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:35.880
I gotta get away just far enough
to do this, and hopefully if

625
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:37.639
I was playing multiplayer that other people
could maybe step in and do this.

626
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.920
Was just like Nope, I think
that's totally valid. I think the rebuttal

627
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:49.119
would be that that breaks up the
the intensity of the fight, because if

628
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.639
it was just if you were just
doing the same thing for like forty minutes

629
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:55.960
on a monster, it would just
be too much. And it makes it

630
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.800
a little more frenetic when you do
have to like, oh no, my

631
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:00.800
weapon's bad, I gotta retreat for
a bit and like send you know,

632
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:07.239
hope my cat uh you know,
gets the attention of the monster while I

633
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:08.400
have. You know, it's exciting
when you try to run away and then

634
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.280
sharpen it. So I feel like
last time I played it, maybe you

635
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.559
didn't have a cat. I don't
remember, Okay, but I do believe

636
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:16.679
the cats are a late addition.
Okay. I do like the idea of

637
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:20.360
Monster Hunter. I like the idea
of like, hey, we're gonna go

638
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.719
like people told me to approach it
like a hunting game, which I thought

639
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.719
was cool to think of it that
way. It's like, all I'm gonna

640
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.400
hunt these rare creatures. It's gonna
be big, long boss fights and stuff

641
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.719
and you're gonna get this. Yeah. But when they say a hunting game,

642
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:34.800
that's a genre that Monster Hunter created. Okay, well again, again

643
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:37.960
and again. I like the Idabella. Yeah, yeah, these huge boss

644
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.000
fights. I guess the things when
people say treated like a hunting game,

645
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:44.159
I think, like, Wow,
hunting games are fucking terrible. Dear Hunter.

646
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.400
The game controlled well and was approachable
and had a good UI and good

647
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.480
inventory management and stuff like that.
I think it'd be fucking cool. Things.

648
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:54.039
Things you're saying are so subjective,
though, because I guarantee there are

649
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.679
a lot of people out there who
would say it does control well. It

650
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:00.480
controls well for itself, right,
I mean controls like it needs to.

651
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.679
If the boss fights felt like Devil
may Cry boss fights, I'd be like,

652
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:09.800
yeah, we're playing the wrong game
to expect better controls, because that's

653
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:14.119
not what this game is. If
it had fucking Devil may Cry controls,

654
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:15.719
it would be way better. We
will read different. You will revisit Monster

655
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:19.679
Hunter in the coming weeks. I
didn't want to talk about it today because

656
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:21.639
I wanted Jason to be here.
Yeah, I wish Jason could have joined

657
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.440
us this morning. We do need
that, We do need that experienced voice

658
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:27.320
of reason here. I talked to
him at PAX. He says, it's

659
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.599
a garbage series two. Okay,
I think it is important, thought me

660
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.760
to tell you. Yeah, I
think it is important to get like our

661
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:38.079
beginners perspective on things. Because I've
played it for ten and a half hours.

662
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:40.960
I'm about eight, but I'm just
now coming to terms with the basic

663
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.239
loop of the game. You know, there's still plenty of other stuff to

664
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:49.920
understand there. It's a bad game. You don't like it. It's a

665
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.920
bad game. You think it's bad
because you don't like it. Yes,

666
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:58.159
that is Howpenny. You can't have
it both ways. I think it's a

667
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:00.400
bad You can't. There you go, all right, there you go.

668
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:06.719
Steps it's inherent that that's his opinion. You don't need to make him explain.

669
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:07.840
It's the thing that people on the
internet don't seem to understand that.

670
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:09.880
But you can't. You can't have
it both ways. You can't. You

671
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:14.719
can't. You can't fall back on
live and let live when people kids super

672
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:17.920
upset about the declamatory statements that you're
making. Well, if somebody said you're

673
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.400
gonna if you're gonna troll, con
troll. It's not like somebody said on

674
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.199
Twitter. It's like if I said, like, oh, pickles suck.

675
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.400
It doesn't mean that I'm saying like, pickles are objectively shitty and no one

676
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.440
should ever like pickles. I am
saying pickles are objectively shitty and no one

677
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:35.280
should see That's what I'm talking about. Go all the way. It should

678
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:37.039
be inferred that when I say Monster
Hunter sucks and it's a bad game,

679
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.119
that I'm saying I don't fucking like
Monster Hunter, it's not saying that,

680
00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.360
hey, you're an idiot for liking
it, or no one could ever like

681
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.800
it, Like hey, people love, you're an idiot for liking wants.

682
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.960
Fuck, I'll go there. I'm
like, I don't like it, and

683
00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:51.440
I think it's a shop like Monster
Hunter all they want. They're just wrong.

684
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.639
It's fine. Yeah, that's what
I've been doing wrong. Yeah.

685
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:58.800
I haven't actually played it since pretty
much the flight out there. I spent

686
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:04.039
the flight back sleeping. I tried
getting into three in some form. Yeah,

687
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:05.840
yeah, me too. It did
not grab me, Yeah, not

688
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:07.440
at all. I don't know.
Somebody was telling me some things about like

689
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:12.000
things that have changed from three to
four, like apparently the fact that there's

690
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:16.559
more than one town is new and
four, I mean three. That doesn't

691
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:21.280
solve any of but but but it
does give you an indication. Hey,

692
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:23.480
it does give an indication of how
to rudimentary that series has been until very

693
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:29.719
recently. But again, we all
need to play more of it or not.

694
00:40:30.159 --> 00:40:31.599
You know what I played on the
plane after I stopped playing that with

695
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:37.280
Sam. Can you tell me in
five minutes? All right? Hit me?

696
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.719
It's been five minutes. No,
I mean like within within five minutes.

697
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:44.599
Oh yeah, it's it's short.
Yeah. So I played several chapters

698
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.960
of Codename Steam on three DS and
I like it a lot. It's it's

699
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:51.920
very much it's x calm. I
think we talked about a little bit after

700
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.000
that new three DS event, right, But it's totally like an x com

701
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.440
with more direct control, Like you
definitely used that that C stick on the

702
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.480
new although you can still use the
face buttons to kind of move your view

703
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:06.119
and stuff. And since it's not
an action game, I think it would

704
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:07.880
be pretty okay on the old three
DS. Yeah, I don't think it

705
00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.880
would make a huge difference. I
intended to play it, and then I

706
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:15.199
didn't bring the charger to my three
DS on this trip, and so there

707
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:16.880
was no code names team for me. I thought I thought there was an

708
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:22.679
action component to it. I mean
you're moving around light action, though it's

709
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:25.119
turn based stuff, like you are
aiming at like there will be glowy bits

710
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:28.400
on enemies and stuff, and you
do more damage if you hit that.

711
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.400
But they're not like actively moving around
while you're trying to shoot at that.

712
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:32.119
Well, No, I didn't mean
that, but I thought there was some

713
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:37.360
direct control on the I may have
inferred that from videos incorrectly, but I

714
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:38.800
mean, yeah, you are moving
around and directly controlling your dude. It's

715
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.719
not like ex commerts, like you're
going to the square and I'm gonna watch

716
00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.360
you moving. You're not moving.
You're not moving squares. There are squares,

717
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.559
but you are moving the character around
directly with the circle. Pe Okay,

718
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.360
I think that's what I saw the
Yeah, it feels different than next

719
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.760
comp for sure, but yeah,
you're not like actively like ducking and cover

720
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:59.400
based stuff or anything like that.
Yeah, I think it's a ton of

721
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:02.840
fun. I think I was kind
of concerned that the whole presentation was gonna

722
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:06.599
be a little much for me,
Like it was trying way too hard to

723
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.639
be weird steampunk Abe Lincoln, Aliens, and like it kind of is all

724
00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:13.599
that stuff, but it doesn't in
a way. That's just it's not really

725
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:15.760
just in your face all the time. How does it look in motion?

726
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.079
I feel like screenshots it looks kind
of hard to look at. No,

727
00:42:19.159 --> 00:42:20.760
I think I think it looks good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

728
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:23.960
haven't had any problem with it visually. Will Wheaton, Oh yeah, he's

729
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:28.039
what Abe Lincoln? That's what I
heard. I haven't heard much from Lincoln.

730
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:29.840
Like all the cut scenes have been
very short. It's like, oh,

731
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:31.559
you gotta go save this lady in
England. He was a task turn

732
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.440
kind of guy. Yeah. Yeah, like that means it's done. Does

733
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.039
that mean he doesn't talk much?
Yes, brief brief words, more about

734
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:42.039
action. Okay, it's actually not
true at all, but yeah. Yeah,

735
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:43.920
he just says something to you and
then you jump out of his zepplin

736
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:45.119
or whatever and go down and kill. Is there any more that weird alternate

737
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:49.000
history stuff like is there a whole
league of presidents or anything like that or

738
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:51.679
is it just your sting? No? He insinuates that like Lincolns, he

739
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.280
basically like stage the assassination or whatever
so he could deal with the real threat

740
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:58.960
of these aliens. Like that's kind
of implied, I guess, which is

741
00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.239
a guy Yeah, yeah, yeah, very selfless staring out for the real

742
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:06.559
enemy. Yeah. The one big
complaint I have is one that I have

743
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:08.599
to imagine every single review of this
game is gonna bring up. And that's

744
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:12.880
when you're done with your turn,
you hit end turn, and then a

745
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.440
little bar at the bottom says alien
activity or alien movement or something, and

746
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:20.519
the whole alien team has to go
through their movements and it takes a long

747
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.199
long time and cannot speed it up
definitely know a fast forward or anything.

748
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.960
Nope. And everyone I've talked to
several people at packs and in the industry

749
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.719
that have played it, and everyone's
like, how the fuck is this getting

750
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:32.960
shipped like this because it is a
huge problem to the point where it will

751
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:37.480
negatively impact your enjoyment. Do you
ever see and the enemy movement like pop

752
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:39.599
out of the fog of war or
anything like that in those cases like kind

753
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:42.800
of mid turn, because I was
always like, you know, x com

754
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.119
would do stuff like that It's like, you know, during the the opposing

755
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:50.039
team turn, you would occasionally see
some of that movement. You can cycle

756
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.360
through the viewpoints of like the four
people in your team or whatever, so

757
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.400
it gonna be like, oh,
you know, what's the lion guy see?

758
00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:59.119
And if if the alien happens to
be in his kind of where he

759
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.159
would be able to see it.
An normally you'll see it scurrying around or

760
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.159
whatever. But most of the time, you know you're not close to them,

761
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.000
or they're just reshuffling inside the fog
of war, and you're just looking

762
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.079
at this bar and you're like,
oh, man, all right, can

763
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:15.639
you do anything? Can you like
you can watch watch swap between perspectives of

764
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:17.880
your guys. That's it. You
can't go into the inventory manage anything or

765
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.840
no inventory managing. Nope, you
just wait for this fucking bar to fill

766
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:24.400
up and sharpen your weapon. I
wonder if it's just like a straight up

767
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.719
a CPU thing like in order to
simulate that stuff like it takes a little

768
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:30.599
bit of time. It sucks because
I mean, yeah, I would just

769
00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:34.559
like set down the three DS for
like a minute, minute and a half

770
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.239
and just have a drink or sew
eng You know, I wasn't like didn't

771
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.960
have a stopwatch for anything there,
but like I bet some of them were

772
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:44.440
close to if not more than a
minute. And there's that's gonna happen time

773
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:47.360
and time and time again every single
fight. It's it's it's kind of baffling.

774
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:52.000
Is there anything between the fights they
got a meta game layer or you

775
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.559
moved around a map doing anything at
all? You know, I just got

776
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.639
to the point again, I'm only
like three or four chapters in where you're

777
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:00.000
starting to like get new people on
your team, and yeah, you do

778
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:05.039
earn currency and things like that.
I have not seen any of that.

779
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:07.119
I want to say, there's some
stuff you can do with currency, but

780
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.639
I'm like very early on and that
stuff you start getting like subweapons and stuff

781
00:45:09.639 --> 00:45:15.199
for your characters. Yeah, and
there's like three like medals in each stage

782
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.440
you can go for and then you
can buy like better Steam pistons or I

783
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:21.679
forget what they call them. But
I'm very early on and that stuff.

784
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.159
It's just kind of teaching me the
basic game mechanics and everything I've played.

785
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:28.800
I really really like outside of that
waiting. Yeah, I'm glad to hear

786
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:32.760
this sounds good. I can't help
feeling a little disheartened that they made this

787
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.960
and not a new Advanced Wars.
I do advance. Why didn't they make

788
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:38.639
a new Advanced Wars because they made
a bunch of those already. But it's

789
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:45.199
been a while though, so so
let them do something different otherwise for the

790
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.800
entirety of their careers and whatever,
mean they make something impressive about a new

791
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:51.800
Advanced Wars they're making any They made
a new Advance Wars, but they're making

792
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.360
a next Fire emblem on the three
US and they haven't even made aid a

793
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:58.559
single Advanced Wars. Yeah, well, fire arlbms dumb on. This Bodil

794
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:05.119
is great. Two fire emblems and
this Marth Marth. I should point out

795
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:09.480
that my only experience with Fire emblem
is from Smash Brothers. Do you like

796
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:14.159
kind of strategy like Final Fantasy Tactics
or Advanced Wars or not especially It's all

797
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.559
right, it's fine. I'm totally
okay with it, but okay, it's

798
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.800
I'm not like wild for it.
A special place in my heart for Advance

799
00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:24.960
Wars. It's great, Yeah,
I'll say it was not Days of Ruin.

800
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:30.639
Not not so great. Definitely not
totally. Yes, the top was

801
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:34.119
trying to get all serious and like
rim with it, so he had Advanced

802
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.360
Wars in the Gameway advance. You
had Dual Strike on the DS back when

803
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:43.760
everything, I had to have a
DS act about three Dead Dance three Dance

804
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:49.840
Wars. Three that's sold will have
to be the Three Deadly Snakes Dance Wars.

805
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.960
I just want a game called Dance
Wars. Okay, anybody got any

806
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:57.719
other packs wrap up or no?
I just I don't know. When you

807
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.760
were earlier, when you were talking
about your Dance Wars and we're talking about

808
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.880
handheld games. I started thinking about
DDR on the Game Boy. Wait,

809
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.760
there was a DR on the game. There was like a finger stage you

810
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.400
can dance on. I guess it. Leadat Agents is kind of a DDR.

811
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:14.320
Not really, I mean for your
style. It's a rhythm game.

812
00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:17.840
Yes, similar kind of stuff.
But they literally canomy made DDR games on

813
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:21.840
the Game Boy. Wow, they
made a little not economy but you know,

814
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:28.679
a little guitar rock. I think
it's super weird and I completely forgot

815
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:32.559
that that existed. It's so holy
shit. Yeah, plastic add ons I.

816
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:37.519
After we talked about Zelda recently,
I started playing Twilight Princess on Dolphin

817
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:39.760
last night. I spent all this
time trying to set it up because there's

818
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:43.519
like specific things you have to do. It's the GameCube version. It's like

819
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.480
the map will be glitchy unless you
turn off this thing or whatever. And

820
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:47.559
I got it all set up and
started playing it, and I was like,

821
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.840
oh God, this game takes forever
to get started. I forgot so

822
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:52.280
I just I spent more time setting
it up than I did play why the

823
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.920
GameCube version in particularly because I've only
played the WE one and I liked the

824
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:00.480
idea of just playing with this normal
ass controls don't they don't. I pretty

825
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:01.719
much map all that stuff to buttons. Though, if you want with the

826
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.159
with the Dolphin stuff the WE think, yeah, I guess you could.

827
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:07.519
But because I know, like the
Gamekeep version didn't have white screen support,

828
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.000
yeah that's kind of a pain and
some other stuff like that. Yeah,

829
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:13.000
I kind of wanted to try the
game peaple in anyway, with the flip

830
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.960
world and everything. I might still, but man, I was not in

831
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.119
the mood last night to just go
through a long process of starting that game

832
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.639
and hurting goats and stuff. How
did it look good? Looked real good.

833
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:29.159
Not as good as Galaxy. Oh, Galaxy is ridiculous. Yeah,

834
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:34.559
I played some video games I played. Well, I'll mentioned Overwatch. It

835
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:40.280
moves kind of slowly, kind of
slowly, like the character movement is plotting.

836
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:44.039
I would say, Yeah, I
was watching some video of it when

837
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:45.639
we were on the show floor,
and it definitely seemed like, you know,

838
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.760
there were abilities that were dashes and
stuff like that. So I only

839
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.360
tried two of the classes because they
only were letting people play one match.

840
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:55.559
But yeah, every every character seems
to have a mobility move of some kind.

841
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.599
Like I was playing a sharpshooter guy
who has a kind of combat role,

842
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.679
and then the rocket character has like
a jump chet thing or whatever,

843
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:05.480
and those going cool down as soon
as you use them. So I assume

844
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.280
it's kind of the risk reward of
like, well, I'm slow normally,

845
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.159
but I could use this move when
the time is right, and that kind

846
00:49:10.199 --> 00:49:14.239
of thing. But when I'm playing
somebody with the rocket launcher, I want

847
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:15.880
to move, you know, you
want to rocket jump. Yeah, well

848
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:19.639
you can't rocket jump all right,
and then go back to walking at a

849
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:24.639
leisurely pace. Well great, I
bet that game is not super far off

850
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:29.039
from some kind of public test.
Yeah, so we should. It seems

851
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:34.719
really pretty, and it was so
like, you know, I maybe it's

852
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.320
because I don't especially like TF two, but I just looked at it and

853
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.320
said, wow, this thing seems
fucking empty, like creatively bankrupt. Like

854
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:45.519
you check out this really pretty thing
they're making. It's just like, all

855
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.280
right, sure, congratulations you made
it. You made one of these kind

856
00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:52.679
of class based games. Yeah,
I can see that nice going. Uh

857
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:54.760
you know, I mean they had
all that work left over from there.

858
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:59.119
Oh yeah, totally huge budget tent
pole immo. Right, and like I

859
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:00.639
mean, make no mistake, like
TF two is wildly popular and all this

860
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:04.039
other stuff. So you know,
it's like making a game that you know,

861
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:08.440
pulls some of those players. Probably
good business, but they haven't necessarily

862
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:10.440
yeah, they haven't actually committed to
that yet. Yeah. Yeah, I'm

863
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.360
saying T two. It's popular,
it would certainly be sensible for Overwatch to

864
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:16.719
be free. I don't know what. I guess just you know, from

865
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.760
the thought of like, hey,
here's a new game from Blizzard. I

866
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.239
just look at it and go like
what, yeah, no, why I

867
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.159
made a big deal about how it's
their first first person shooter yeah, and

868
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:28.119
stuff like that. But yeah,
you know, visually super impressive. Yeah,

869
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.199
it looks really nice. It's hard
to get a sense of something like

870
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.599
that in one match on a loud
convention floor and be looking forward to actually

871
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:37.199
trying it for real. Yeah.
Cool. I finally got to sit down

872
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.519
and spend some time with the Home
World Remastered collection. Oh yeah, I've

873
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:45.239
only played the first Homeworld so far. In that collection, I put a

874
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:47.800
fair amount of time into that.
Immediately remembered why that game was so impressive

875
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:52.000
fifteen years ago. Yeah. Close
ups of spaceships. Ah, you can

876
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.199
select any ship and zoom all the
way in on it and just watch it

877
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:59.880
do its thing. That's kind of
I haven't really played any of the home

878
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.360
stuff, like even back in the
day. Yeah, missed it because let's

879
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.360
you know, you're issuing like broad
like formation orders and then just attack moving

880
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.599
and the ship's kind of like the
algorithms determine how they engage, right,

881
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.960
and like they're all swarming around each
other and stuff. That's when you zoom

882
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.760
in. Okay, just watch shit
plow up. Yeah, it's it's it's

883
00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:21.639
fun for that reason. But yeah, it feels, uh, it feels

884
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:23.239
like it's age really, well,
we'll we'll do a video soon. Cool.

885
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:27.840
That's a little buggy, but uh
yeah that's good. I hear.

886
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.239
Yes, it's not on the soundtrack. Wait was it before? Yes?

887
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:36.639
Was it really? Yes? Huh
yes, yes, yes, yes,

888
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:42.199
I totally did not remember that they
wrote a song involving the lore of the

889
00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:45.679
game and way back when. Yeah, weird, we use music as a

890
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:50.320
weapon. This weekend we did.
Yeah, it's true. We spent some

891
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.679
time at the Pinball Wizard Arcade in
pelamw Hampshire. Oh yeah, how was

892
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.440
that great? Those are Sunday afternoon
adventure. Yeah. Yeah, we went

893
00:51:55.440 --> 00:52:00.880
out there and uh, you know, I ended up with one hundred tokens,

894
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.519
which is more than enough for an
afternoon of video game time. But

895
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.639
yeah, we spent some time playing
a busted up Revolution extra cabinet. Yeah.

896
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:12.000
We had a very competitive game of
blitz. Yeah, very competitive.

897
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:16.679
Yeah, okay, it was close, came down to it was overtime and

898
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:20.239
yeah, you got a field goal
right there, but yeah, I think

899
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.960
it was sixty two to seven that
the final score. That might be it.

900
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:25.920
You might have tweeted out a stat
screen. Yeah, you's a real

901
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:30.039
good at blitz. So here.
I had heard that for a long time.

902
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:31.159
But part of my head is thinking, like, you know what,

903
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:35.440
I played a lot of blitz on
sixty four and in the arcades I could

904
00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.960
I could probably at least put up
a decent score against this guy. Yeah,

905
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:43.079
and uh no, you can't make
first down against that was what was

906
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.400
the final tally? It was like
sixty two to seven, which is better

907
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.880
than Rich. Yeah, Rich didn't
score at all. Well all right,

908
00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.039
so yeah, watching you and Rich, I was like, I just want

909
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:52.320
to get on the board, and
I got one touchdown. Yeah. It's

910
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.760
a place near fun Spot at all. No, it's the same state,

911
00:52:54.800 --> 00:53:00.400
but not not specially Okay, yeah, yeah, sure it's right there.

912
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:05.320
Still that part of the country seems
to have a monopoly on cool old I

913
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:07.159
guess. So, yeah, I
don't know. The nice thing about the

914
00:53:07.159 --> 00:53:09.719
Pinball Wizard, I'll say, is
that, you know, like everything there

915
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:14.519
seems to work, and like when
I went to the Fun Spot, everything

916
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.719
seemed kind of jankie. I played
a working guns and Roses pinball machine.

917
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:21.480
Yeah yeah, really they had it, man, So I guess. Actually

918
00:53:21.519 --> 00:53:23.079
there was some totally broken stuff at
the Pinball Wizard as well, like the

919
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:30.440
couple the terminator to gun the lawn. The rocket button was stuck in wouldn't

920
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:32.360
work, and the revolution next things
weren't really vibrant, and then we played,

921
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:36.920
uh we beat Smash TV yep,
and the diagonals on the sticks were

922
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:38.440
kind of, yeah, how much
how much did that take? That took?

923
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:45.119
That's a yeah, a lot of
more. We were originally going to

924
00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:49.000
try to be a Total Carnage,
but then Jeff told me and Rich that,

925
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:51.199
like, no, this is like
take a lot longer, and we

926
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:53.400
actually probably don't have enough tokens.
It's that much hard. Yeah, totally

927
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.599
Like when you beat the first level
in Total Carnage, it actually just comes

928
00:53:57.639 --> 00:54:00.760
up and says Smash TV players should
step away from the seat. Wow.

929
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:04.239
Yeah, they're they're kind of not
fucking around wow, but like very much

930
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:06.440
into like by making it in your
face like that, and they go like,

931
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:08.199
well, I'll show you. I'll
put a ton of money into this

932
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:13.320
machine and beat at you assholes.
Psychological warfare. Yeah, it's pretty smart.

933
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.000
It's totally devious. It's terrible.
Everything about Total Carnage is totally deep,

934
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:22.599
amazing and terrible to totally devious.
Was thirteen, Yeah, totally devious.

935
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.880
There's one they had a whacko cabinet
and the original kind of slanted cabinet.

936
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:28.679
That was the first one I played. Yeah, it's a weird game.

937
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:30.719
It first, it took me a
second to figure out what to do

938
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.320
because I thought it was just gonna
be like basically robotronic. This used to

939
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:35.280
stick to shoot everything, and then
it's like, oh, no, you

940
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.480
have to shoot that had and then
shoot one of the same ones. Yeah,

941
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:38.480
but then it starts making no sense
at all. Once it's like,

942
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:40.840
well, now it's got the top
of a green, hairy guy in the

943
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:45.199
bottom of a birdman and like shoot
him back. So you need to make

944
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.760
them like a hole ye one thing
and then shot another one shot? Yeah,

945
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:52.320
good lord, Okay, Yeah,
yeah, it's a process. It's

946
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:54.440
a weird game. It's a really
weird game. Cosmic Cruiser was the sequel

947
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:58.039
to that game. I think Dan, yes, tell me about the G

948
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:01.320
and R pinball Machine. So I
think it's got a really bad axel rose

949
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:05.599
impersonator. When you first put in
your quarters, I'm trying to do an

950
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.239
axle screen, but it's super doesn't
sound like axles screaming. I think it's

951
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:12.639
just like, yeah, okay,
something like that. It's terrible. But

952
00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:19.320
then some acone the plunger is it's
got like a revolver down there where a

953
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.800
plunger would normally be, and he
pulled the trigger and it shoots the ball

954
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:24.360
out and like there's another plunger on
the other side that they had replaced with

955
00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:27.960
a stock looking one. But I
want to say, originally it was there

956
00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:30.679
was a rose on the plunger.
Yeah, that's I never had to actually

957
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:34.679
use that one, like the right
one. The standard one is the pistol.

958
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:36.840
I think if it goes down one
way, you do the rose one.

959
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:38.000
Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
you have to go launch. What's

960
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:40.079
that I do? Like a pistol
launcher? Is a T two that has

961
00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:45.679
one can't remember, it's pretty common. I think that kind of eventually.

962
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:50.880
Yeah, but it plays a Welcome
to the Jungle and it plays sweet Child

963
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:55.199
of Mine to a two deep cuts, oh yeah from the Deep in the

964
00:55:55.199 --> 00:56:00.719
catalog. Yeah. Yeah. There's
a little axle on the board and it

965
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:04.599
says mystery when lit on his crotch, which I thought was funny. I

966
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.480
got a picture of it. Okay. I think one of the main things

967
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:08.800
you have to do is get all
the band members on stage, and I

968
00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:14.159
think I just got Matt Sorum,
So that's a really shitty congratulations. So

969
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:16.840
it was a late period. I
mean it was mostly like appetite stuff,

970
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:21.159
like all the like the visuals and
stuff are very appetite and again Jungle and

971
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:23.039
Sweet Child, and I think I
remember you saying at one point that thing

972
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:27.760
did come out kind of ninety Yeah, probably it was. It was,

973
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:30.840
yeah, it was probably you know, towards the end of right, it

974
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:34.079
sounds like by the time he came
out and they were practically done. Yeah,

975
00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:36.000
by the time it came out,
like Matt Sorum was certainly in the

976
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:37.440
band, yes, yeah, And
it had images of acts of wearing the

977
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.480
stuff he would wear during like Civil
War performances and things like that. So

978
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:44.840
I mean, I'm sure use your
illusion was out, but like it's still

979
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:47.360
a lot of appetite was going into
this. That makes sense. It's like

980
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:51.440
if I was making with that machine
at that time, like that's good for

981
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:53.400
business, probably, But maybe we
put Welcome to the Jungle in it.

982
00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:55.760
Maybe, I don't know, what
do you think. I guess we could

983
00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:00.039
put you could be Mine in it, but that's already associated with another in

984
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.239
ball machine. I just want a
pinball machine that plays all nine minutes of

985
00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:07.239
Estranged, just the whole trilogy of
was Trained, Don't Cry November Rained.

986
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:09.679
You should buy one of those machines
and make that happen yourself. Okay,

987
00:57:10.119 --> 00:57:13.880
some rom hacking, yep, I'm
just glad I finally got to play it.

988
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:15.280
I just put a tape deck in
there. Yeah, straight up Journey

989
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:19.079
Sun up Journey style. They didn't
have the Royal Rumball pinball machine, though,

990
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:20.840
Which is the other one I want
to try? Yeah, they did

991
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:23.119
have the Royal Rumball game. They
had the Wrestle many of the Arcade and

992
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.960
that Superstars, right Superstars? Yeah, which would you play? The Royal

993
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:30.440
Rumbo? So I picked mister Perfect
and won the rumble, which is how

994
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:32.840
that's every time I see that game. That's what I do, just like

995
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:38.079
a son. Yeah, you won
the rumbol exactly. Yeah, sounds like

996
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.679
yeah. Yeah. They're pretty tight
packed in pretty tightly. They that four

997
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:45.119
player pac Man tabletop thing there.
We played that a little bit. Man.

998
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.000
I hadn't played much of a Mortal
Kombat four just in my life,

999
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:51.639
Like, that's the only Mortal combat
I haven't like played to death pretty much,

1000
00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:53.519
and I instantly was reminded of why, Like I saw it, they

1001
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:55.480
look at I was like, you
know what, I'm gonna try this.

1002
00:57:55.519 --> 00:57:58.880
I remember trying this a little bit
in the arcade. I never really played

1003
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:01.280
a gold or whatever on the Dreamcast. I'm gonna see. Yeah, maybe

1004
00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:04.840
I just didn't give this a fair
shake. And I played it and it's

1005
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:07.639
like, no, none of this
feels good. Yeah, it's like it's

1006
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.400
okay, it's it's not terrible,
but I understand why. It's easily my

1007
00:58:10.519 --> 00:58:15.320
least favorite. Yeah, they had
the Wizard of Oz pinball machine there,

1008
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:20.519
which is the Jersey Jack Company.
It's the Stern is making a lot of

1009
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:22.760
machines, and now this other company
has kind of got in as well.

1010
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:27.320
Okay, that's a good machine.
Crazy nuts. It's it feels like it

1011
00:58:27.400 --> 00:58:31.840
came from some like weird time warp
where pinball was always popular and just advanced

1012
00:58:31.840 --> 00:58:37.800
in technology, because the backlash is
a gigantic fucking screen and it's just full

1013
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:39.840
color, it's full frame rate.
It came out last year. Oh wow,

1014
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:43.679
yeah geez. And it's just like, you know, it's Wizard of

1015
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:45.719
Oz. It's like, here's the
Wicked Witch flying match. You all the

1016
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:50.760
sound is super crisp and high bit
rate, and it's just it's weird.

1017
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:53.199
It's fucking weird. It's crazy.
And right next to that was like a

1018
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.559
Walking Dead pinball machine, which I
thought was funny because it says like the

1019
00:58:55.559 --> 00:59:00.159
Walking Dead AMC, like it has
the AMC logo on the backlash, like

1020
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:01.559
let you know, like, no, this is this is this is that

1021
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:05.760
TV one? Yeah. I would
say if you if you find a Wizard

1022
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.480
of machine out in the wild,
you should check it out. It's fucking

1023
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:12.480
weird, it's it's cool. Is
that thing currently? Like unique? And

1024
00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.199
hell, Laborati is like, are
there other machines coming out with that kind

1025
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:19.199
of stuff? Stern doesn't do the
full you know, video backlass thing,

1026
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:23.280
but their machines are very elaborate,
like the Transformers machines. There's there's a

1027
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:27.880
Mustang Afford Mustang machine that they did
recently. They do a Tron one.

1028
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.599
Yeah, they did Tron They had
Tron there. I played. I played

1029
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:34.559
Tron and played Transformers. Every time
I think pinball should be dead and you're

1030
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.599
going to hear about the death of
pinball, something happens, I feel like,

1031
00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:39.079
yeah, well, it's you know
it's there are only a couple of

1032
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:44.239
companies out there doing it, you
know. Uh, and and it's everything

1033
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:47.039
is licensed now because you know the
standard, you know, no one's I

1034
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:52.119
don't think that stuff sells if it's
not. Yeah, I think it's it's

1035
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.400
cool that their company is still out
there doing that stuff. I don't know

1036
00:59:54.400 --> 01:00:00.559
where pinball machines go other than places
devoted to pinball machines. Collectors. Increasingly,

1037
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:05.320
whenever Stern makes them sells these machines. Now they do two runs.

1038
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:07.800
They'll do like the standard run and
then they limited edition run and they'll have

1039
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:12.559
like gold rails and you know whatever
else, and then they'll sell those for

1040
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.480
seven grand instead of five or whatever
it is. And you know, like

1041
01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:20.480
people that want people that really care
about the Family Guy would maybe would want

1042
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.519
a Family Guy machine in there and
there, maybe they would. The Family

1043
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:25.079
Guy machine is really crazy. They
had it there last year when I went,

1044
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:29.679
but they didn't have it this time. Because it has a tiny pinball

1045
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:34.920
machine inside the pinball machine, so
you can kind of like you you know,

1046
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:38.280
hit your your normal size ball into
some area that activates the other machine

1047
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:42.719
and then there's a tiny ball up
there and you're playing tiny pinball with the

1048
01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:45.320
same flippers or no, okay,
no, no, it's a it's a

1049
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:49.760
whole separate same same controls is what
I'm in. Same same buttons, the

1050
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.559
same buttons control big and little.
Yeah, weird. I've seen that den

1051
01:00:52.599 --> 01:00:54.119
word. It's like a digital thing
where it's like fake one, but now

1052
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:58.519
like an actual physical pinball machine in
there. Yeah, it's the Family Guy.

1053
01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:01.559
I made a reference to pinball inside
of it. Well, there you

1054
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:06.599
go. It's the Family Guy.
I guess. I don't know the brand,

1055
01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:09.000
it's exactly no, but that's I
mean, it's a it's a cool

1056
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:14.400
machine. Unfortunately it's the Family Guy, so it's sort of crap, but

1057
01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:16.960
but whatever, all right, Yeah, yeah, it was a it was

1058
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:20.800
a good time. Sounds like a
fun trip. Yeah. Uh well,

1059
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:24.920
unless anybody has another games, I'll
briefly say that the DMC Definitive Edition looks

1060
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:28.639
real good, always real good.
It's got some new Modes's new Turbo mode

1061
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:30.239
is pretty cool. Cool. It
seems like they may do they make like

1062
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:35.239
gameplay changes, Like there's different modes, Like there's a hardcore one where they

1063
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:37.679
tweak stuff where it's like they kind
of change the window for evading and things

1064
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:40.719
like that. They'll change up kind
of like how much damage different enemies do.

1065
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:44.599
So, Yeah, they've added some
new modes, like a must style

1066
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:46.199
mode where you have to be like
at least an s rank of style to

1067
01:01:46.239 --> 01:01:50.440
do any damage. Yeah. So, like I don't know, for someone

1068
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.400
like me that beat it on every
single difficulty before because I liked it that

1069
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:55.840
much, I'm probably the type of
guy that will go through that. Yeah.

1070
01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:58.840
Do you know if they're adding any
of that stuff back into the PC

1071
01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.159
version or did they just spin out
of new like Skew on Steam for the

1072
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:06.079
Definitive. You know, I'm not
sure. Yeah, it's if you love

1073
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:07.880
the first one, it's probably worth
playing again. At sixty frame second,

1074
01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:10.719
it's real fun. Still, that
was a good game. Yeah, it

1075
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:15.280
still is, all right. Lastly, I was going to mention or end

1076
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:19.039
of the Blind Forest, which there
should be a quick look on the site

1077
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:22.960
for now, which pretty much says
everything I want to say about that game.

1078
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:25.760
Plus you can look at it wow
at the same time you should because

1079
01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:30.360
it's gorgeous, like a podcast and
a video feed all in one. That

1080
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:32.159
sounds suspect. I don't know.
I think there might be something to it.

1081
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:36.119
I think it's going places. And
then when we're done here, I

1082
01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:37.719
want to play some Hotline Miami too. Yes, that's out this week.

1083
01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:40.639
There's a bunch of stuff out this
week, the pack Scott and the GDC.

1084
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:45.480
You got in the way of us
checking out City Skylines sounds really good.

1085
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:50.280
Yeah, but Ori just fucking blew
my mind. I'd started playing it

1086
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.159
yesterday and I had very I don't
want to say low expectations, but I

1087
01:02:53.199 --> 01:02:57.159
was just like, you know,
that's gonna be like a hand painted Metroidvania.

1088
01:02:57.239 --> 01:03:00.360
That'll be cool. Uh. And
it's way better than just that cool.

1089
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:02.760
Like it plays incredibly well. It's
like, yeah, it's like one

1090
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:07.079
of the most stunning two D games
I have ever seen in my life.

1091
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:09.039
Yeah. I was kind of expecting
it to be maybe like on the level

1092
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:12.440
of like dust and a lazy and
tail or something, because I remember I

1093
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:15.360
got excited for the idea that and
that wasn't great. It's it's all right,

1094
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:20.639
but like this seems like really it
plays super tightly, like it's really

1095
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.360
hard in like a good way,
like just some meat boy. Yeah.

1096
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:27.079
In fact, it specifically does the
meat boy thing of like you've got an

1097
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:29.480
unlimited wall jump, so you can
just kind of keep arching on the same

1098
01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:31.079
wall over and over, and they
make you do a bunch of crazy trick

1099
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:37.719
extended like wall jump sequences through like
spikes and weird stuff like that. It's

1100
01:03:37.719 --> 01:03:40.039
really weird mechanics around saving and stuff
that I think are work really well,

1101
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:44.599
which I thought that was super cool
because before those super hard meat boy ass

1102
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:47.880
platforming sections, you can just create
a safe point right before, and the

1103
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:52.800
load is so fast when you die
that you can basically turn these little sections

1104
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.239
into like bite size like meat Boy
levels. Like they give you the tools

1105
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:58.719
to make the game not super hard
on yourself, but if you're not paying

1106
01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:01.079
attention and saving when you should right
like, you can have a real bad

1107
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:04.880
time with it. And it doesn't
say anything like even collectibles that you picked

1108
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.360
up and stuff you have to go
back and get again. But yeah,

1109
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:11.320
I'd really recommend people go watch The
Quick Look because that game, like,

1110
01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:14.639
I think it makes it really strong
argument for itself. Cool. I don't

1111
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:17.079
necessarily need to sit here and champion
it, but check it out. It's

1112
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:21.800
coming out. And now how about
we get in some news, because as

1113
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:28.519
predicted coming out of GDC, there
was more news breaking and I'm gonna read

1114
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:32.320
some of it right now. They
were showing Morpheus GDC. Yeah, they

1115
01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:36.840
had an event. Harry fishburn was
there. What's that, Larry Fish?

1116
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:43.800
Oh? Yes, indeed, I
gotta shill for anything. I was not

1117
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:45.360
clear. I saw a lot of
people just referring to it as Morpheus coming

1118
01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:48.639
out of this event, and I'm
not clear if that suddenly became the final

1119
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:53.519
name for this thing or not.
I don't think they've necessarily said yeah,

1120
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:56.639
but I don't know for sure.
Well, here's what they necessarily said.

1121
01:04:56.800 --> 01:04:59.559
Okay, it's coming out in the
first half of twenty sixteen. Okay,

1122
01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:02.239
so that, you know, a
few months after the Valve stuff. Yeah,

1123
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.760
who knows where Oculus is going to
be in that mix? Could we

1124
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:09.599
land on a pronunciation for valves thing? I heard most people at packs just

1125
01:05:09.599 --> 01:05:14.119
saying vibe, but I don't know
Valve vibe. So they're calling it the

1126
01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:17.440
HTC vibe. They're very much getting
the HDC brand out there in front of

1127
01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:19.440
that thing. Well, I think
it's you know, also, because the

1128
01:05:19.519 --> 01:05:24.519
Valve has said that other companies will
make a headsets support, so this is

1129
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:28.239
not an exclusive yeah, partnership or
whatever. I believe that's the Valve is

1130
01:05:28.239 --> 01:05:30.159
also saying, like all their API
like software level stuff is also going to

1131
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:31.920
be free for everybody to use.
Right. Well, I think it's all

1132
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:36.440
integrated into source too. Right,
maybe that's what it is. I actually

1133
01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:40.760
don't know, but obviously in everybody's
best interest for all these things to play

1134
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:44.599
nice together. Yeah, as we've
said. But but yeah, Morpheus coming

1135
01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:46.679
out, you know, it's probably
this is the first time they have fully

1136
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:50.039
committed to this thing shipping as a
retail product. Ye, I think it

1137
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:53.199
is. Yeah. I think they
were still towing that like it's an R

1138
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:57.960
and D project line up until now. They showed a new unit. It's

1139
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:01.559
got a it's got a ten adp
old screen in it, a single screen

1140
01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:04.119
I think, as opposed to like
the two screens of the Oculus, right

1141
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:09.280
and the Valve thing. It can
output at either sixty or one hundred and

1142
01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:15.199
twenty frames a second. Okay,
that's about all I got for you.

1143
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:18.880
They claim it is super low latency, which everybody is going after. Now.

1144
01:06:19.039 --> 01:06:24.119
Yeah, I'd like to see a
big Excel spreadsheet of you know,

1145
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:30.400
pixel density, yeah, field of
view, latency, refresh rate of everything.

1146
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:31.519
Yeah, this doesn't mention a field
of view. For for me,

1147
01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:38.840
it's more about like, are there
features that one headset or one collection this

1148
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:43.320
one, This one will enable a
thing that cannot be emulated by the others

1149
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:45.440
or something like that. So it
seemed like the positional tracking on the valve

1150
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:48.840
thing, it's like they're kind of
secret sauce or whatever. Right, But

1151
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:53.000
then I guess I'm just barely starting
to understand all this stuff. I guess

1152
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:56.840
John Carmack has been out there a
lot talking about inside out tracking, which

1153
01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:00.280
means that the headset itself can do
all the tracking without a need for because

1154
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:02.280
you know, the valve thing has
got two like separate base stations to set

1155
01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:09.519
up and configure, which it sounds
like they like project infrared yes light into

1156
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:14.159
your room. They're basically doing what
connect does like dot grid. Yeah,

1157
01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:17.519
and then there are sensors on your
headset detect that. So it sounds like

1158
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:20.599
the holy grail of that whole system
is like, make that all that contained

1159
01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:23.559
in the headset, you know,
so you can just take it anywhere and

1160
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:27.599
do it without that stuff. In
the middle of a field, maybe it

1161
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.199
might be a good place for it. I don't know, nowhere, you

1162
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.599
know, won't knock a bunch of
shit over while you're there. It's true,

1163
01:07:32.719 --> 01:07:36.960
trip on a stick or something though, uh run away. I don't

1164
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:42.559
know where that stick might end up, That's what could be problematic. Yeah,

1165
01:07:42.639 --> 01:07:45.119
you know, still still kind of
pie in the sky with the stuff.

1166
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:47.679
No no games announced, just more
tech demos. The people I know

1167
01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:51.559
that use this thing set up was
quite comfortable. Uh, and you can

1168
01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:56.480
wear glasses with it. So there's
that. But you know, still not

1169
01:07:56.599 --> 01:07:59.679
a lot of hard info. A
lot of people kind of worried about,

1170
01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:01.280
you know, how much can the
PS four drive on one of these things

1171
01:08:01.360 --> 01:08:05.400
compared to like a beefy PC.
Not as much? I mean no,

1172
01:08:05.519 --> 01:08:09.199
probably not as much. But you
also wonder, like, you know,

1173
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:12.800
what else is going to be in
the box with this thing. There were

1174
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:15.199
some references floating around a GDC too, like a separate external box this thing

1175
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:17.760
plugs into in addition to the PS
four. Yeah, so I wonder if

1176
01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:20.640
that's an external graphics cards Yeah,
who knows, you know, I don't

1177
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:24.800
wonder if that's like just a current
like development thing, or if that's actually

1178
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:27.880
gonna be part of the kit.
You know, hard to say, but

1179
01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:31.720
virtual reality, it's happening. It's
gonna come out. You know what else

1180
01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:35.239
it can come out? What rock
band four? Yeah? Are you surprised?

1181
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:40.760
No, I didn't think you would
be. Yeah, they announced it.

1182
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:43.520
It's coming out this year. Yeah. What else do we know?

1183
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:48.119
Uh? They will bring music up
from the past generation. Yes, it

1184
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:54.640
will not cross Uh hardware manufacturers.
You can go from three sixty two PS

1185
01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:57.119
four. Yes, you can go
from three to sixty x Box one,

1186
01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:00.720
And it sounds like basically anything that
was sold as d l s will be

1187
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:03.319
there. It's correct eventually. It
doesn't sound like it'll all necessarily be their

1188
01:09:03.359 --> 01:09:05.760
day one. But but yeah,
they're you know, it sounds like they're

1189
01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:09.159
making it with a smaller team.
They're out there saying like this isn't you

1190
01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:11.680
know rock band four is not a
path to rock Band five. That they

1191
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:17.520
actually are looking to update rock Band
four kind of continually as a platforms,

1192
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:21.840
which makes you wonder why they would
call it rock band four yeah, instead

1193
01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:28.000
of just rock band rock band Yeah. But but whatever. So it sounds

1194
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.199
like some of the stuff with the
instruments is still up in the air as

1195
01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:33.119
far as like old instruments coming over. It sounds like they're hoping for that

1196
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:36.319
compatibility to be there. It sounds
like that maybe a lot easier on the

1197
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:41.119
PS four than on the Xbox One. Maybe. Yeah, Well, because

1198
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:45.960
the wireless standard on Xbox has changed
from sixty Xbox one, you would need

1199
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:48.000
some kind of dongle probably yep,
as opposed to I think it's just what

1200
01:09:48.079 --> 01:09:51.520
bluetooth on. Maybe you have to
go out and track I'm sure it wouldn't

1201
01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:55.359
be this, but you know,
go to track down one of those wireless

1202
01:09:55.399 --> 01:09:59.199
three sixty dongles for PC and then
it'll work. Fun sures go out and

1203
01:09:59.239 --> 01:10:03.279
buy a bunch of old controllers and
raid the chips out or something weird.

1204
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:06.159
Uh yeah, if you know,
if if that rumor from last week about

1205
01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:10.680
Guitar Hero coming out this year proves
to be true, yeah, Battle of

1206
01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:15.199
the Bands eating back up? Yeah
why not? Uh yeah, yeah,

1207
01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:17.479
I'm excited for that. It's been
a while. Yeah. Uh. I

1208
01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:20.439
really liked that line in that Harmonics
video of just like we're making a new

1209
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:23.399
rock band because we want to make
a new rock band. You know,

1210
01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:28.920
it's like it's been five years.
Uh you know, maybe the world's ready,

1211
01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:31.119
I am, uh yeah, yeah. A lot of people seem very

1212
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:36.920
excited some real shitty news going down
in the middle of GDC as e a

1213
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:42.439
shut down Maxis right at a time
when they assumed that nobody would notice.

1214
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:45.199
I guess is that the video game
industry equivalent of a Friday. Yeah,

1215
01:10:45.239 --> 01:10:48.319
well, the video game industry has
It's Friday, So this is like worse

1216
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:54.079
somehow. I think the Friday of
everybody, like it literally every developer is

1217
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:58.239
at this conference, and it's yeah, I guess. You know, they

1218
01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:00.600
were kind of quick to say,
oh, it's the m Reville location,

1219
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.199
but that was the one kind of
the Yeah, like, that's vast majority

1220
01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:09.359
of Maxis. There's some pockets of
Maxi's employees. I think it's some other

1221
01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:12.640
studios, but yeah, because you
know, they spun out the SIMS at

1222
01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:15.319
certain point and made that its own
group. Yeah right, yeah, yeah,

1223
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:18.279
but you know, the Emeryville office
is where they made Spore, That's

1224
01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:24.319
where Will Wright worked out of right
all that time, you know, like

1225
01:11:24.760 --> 01:11:29.560
lame vague platitudes about like oh,
we're consolidating ips and blah blah blah,

1226
01:11:29.640 --> 01:11:31.960
but you know, well like realistically, you know, like that last sim

1227
01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:35.319
City game was a fucking train run. Sure Sport did not do what you

1228
01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:39.800
know, anyone wanted as sport didn't
do well, Like they tried some other

1229
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:43.479
stuff with like dark Spot and stuff
like that whatever, and then yes,

1230
01:11:43.560 --> 01:11:45.279
we yes, we all know how
sim City went. Yeah, so like,

1231
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:48.640
yeah, that's shitty. I guess
they announced it in a shitty way

1232
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:54.439
obviously, But are they they timed
it really fucking poorly? Yeah, but

1233
01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:57.680
I guess it's not. But you
know, like, is he supposed to

1234
01:11:57.720 --> 01:12:00.600
keep that team right? Like,
I don't know, Yeah, I don't

1235
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:03.000
know. We really need to take
a look at City Skylines because everybody's talking

1236
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:05.279
that thing up like it's the thing
you wanted sim City to be. Yeah,

1237
01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:09.279
I hope really that thing sounds kind
of incredible. Yeah. I kept

1238
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.119
trying to look at like Cities XXL
and stuff. So there's that thing was

1239
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:15.279
a shit shits. So apparently they're
made by different developers but put out by

1240
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:18.279
the same publishers, so that's why
they shared the brand. And I guess

1241
01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:21.680
at this point it was it's probably
too late when they realized what a train

1242
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:26.520
wreck that last is an XXL,
the last one XXL, which is like

1243
01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:30.159
it's just kind of XL with slightly
different, more broken stuff. Somehow I

1244
01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:32.680
guess by the time that proved to
be a disaster, it was too late

1245
01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:36.840
to divert the branding of this other
one man. But I've just been reading

1246
01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:41.159
all kinds of great stuff about Skylines. It's apparently got really great mod support,

1247
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:44.520
Like you can make the giant cities
that you want to make. I'll

1248
01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:47.479
give that shot. I saw somebody
put out a pack of like P and

1249
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:51.399
g's basically that you could import,
each of which would give you the starting

1250
01:12:51.479 --> 01:12:56.680
terrain for like real cities around the
world. WHOA so like it just reads

1251
01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:59.119
the file and then generates the terrain
for like, oh, I want to

1252
01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:01.640
build on you know, on Manhattan
Island or whatever, and it'll just make

1253
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:05.840
that for you and give it to
you. So all the stuff around that

1254
01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:12.479
thing sounds sounds great. We should
definitely check that out. PlayStation four firmware

1255
01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:16.239
two point five is supposedly imminent,
but I only know that because people who

1256
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:20.479
are in the beta program broke in
da Yeah, so official information has been

1257
01:13:20.479 --> 01:13:24.800
impossible to come by on this stuff. So there's been a handful of leak

1258
01:13:24.920 --> 01:13:28.840
screenshots. Yeah. Interesting, unless
somebody went to the trouble of mocking up

1259
01:13:28.840 --> 01:13:31.680
a bunch of ps four right interface
screenshots and then taking photos of them with

1260
01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:36.279
a phone. It's probably pretty safe
to assume the stuff is actually gonna happen,

1261
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:41.000
though, Yeah, I mean that
that's going the extras a real commitment

1262
01:13:41.039 --> 01:13:45.399
to your to your chicanery. Uh, if you're into that, but suspend

1263
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:50.000
resume supposedly coming in this new firmware. Yeah, I had pretty much written

1264
01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:54.000
off the idea of that ever happening
at this point. How about you,

1265
01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.880
guys, Like, did it even
seem reasonable to assume it was coming back?

1266
01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:00.880
I mean eventually come. I don't
know. I didn't necessarily give up

1267
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:04.760
hope on it, but I don't
necessarily use it. Yeah, on the

1268
01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:08.800
on the Xbox One that much,
considering it was like one of the very

1269
01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:11.479
first features they ever announced for the
PS four. Yeah, so are you

1270
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:14.600
supposed to be able to just completely
well rest mode not turn it all the

1271
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.000
way off. Let's say I rest
mode in the middle of gameplay. I

1272
01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:19.039
should be able to turn it on
and it goes right. Yes, It's

1273
01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:23.359
basically they're saying it will suspend the
state of the running application, which is

1274
01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:27.800
what the Xbox One can do right
right, basically that same thing. Yeah,

1275
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:30.199
Yeah, that if it works as
advertised. That's uh, it's great

1276
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:33.479
on the Xbox One. When it
works. It doesn't always work, or

1277
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:35.560
sometimes you'll get back in the game
and it'll be like, ah, the

1278
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:39.319
login situation has changed, where bobbing
you back to the menu and you're like,

1279
01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:41.880
wait, no thanks. I tried
it with Orry yesterday and the game

1280
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:46.279
was just like like flickering to black
every three seconds. So it's pretty unreliable,

1281
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:50.960
but when it does the job,
it's pretty good. A bunch of

1282
01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:54.880
other stuff going around. Do you
see that there's there's button remapping. There

1283
01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:59.720
is system level button remapping in this
firmware x and yes, well no more

1284
01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:02.079
than that. It's literally like the
screen just shows a list of every button

1285
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:04.159
on the Duel Shock and you can
set it to any other button. So

1286
01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:08.399
if you if you know, because
they went from the PS three standard of

1287
01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:14.520
your shoot buttons are your L one
R one to the Xbox standard of L

1288
01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:17.399
two R two because the triggers and
the PS three were fucking shit, so

1289
01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:20.720
they had to swap everything. When
they brought shooters from you know, with

1290
01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:25.399
three sixty p S three, the
triggers would always be swapped. So if

1291
01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:27.880
people got used to that, they
can now swap it back on the system

1292
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:31.039
level, which means no matter where
you are. I guess if I'm reading

1293
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:34.399
this right, if you push R
one on your controller, it could read

1294
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:39.800
as R two or triangle or select. Yeah. Does it say anything about

1295
01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:43.079
whether that could be game specific?
That's the question. The screenshot that got

1296
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:45.880
out didn't indicate. But yeah,
like you would hope there are game specific

1297
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:47.359
profiles for that stuff, or otherwise
it's just gonna be a nightmare. I

1298
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:53.000
mentioned they put it in the same
menu as like digital or analogy. I

1299
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:56.479
bet. I. My guess is
that it's a system level thing that does

1300
01:15:56.520 --> 01:16:00.640
not have the nuance to be per
game, and it'll be like a thing

1301
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:02.920
that people will look at and go
that's neat, and use it and then

1302
01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:05.279
funk up their controller and go,
wait, how come I kni't how do

1303
01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:09.399
I I don't ah, And and
it'll be a mess. And I have

1304
01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:11.520
to assume that the games. Games
are not going to be aware of this

1305
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:13.439
stuff. You know, like if
say, if you were to play The

1306
01:16:13.560 --> 01:16:16.039
Order and had to do quick time
events and buttons were remapped, Jesus,

1307
01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:18.640
that would be real fun. Yeah, But yeah, like you, it

1308
01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:21.680
could theoretically do the X and O. Yes, no thing, but it

1309
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:26.199
would do it in every game in
every way. It's like, you know,

1310
01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:30.479
it'd be weird. I you know, it's nice to circle. It's

1311
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:32.800
nice to see them folding these big
changes in. Finally, you know,

1312
01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:35.720
the march up they just came out
on the Xbox One. Like they have

1313
01:16:35.720 --> 01:16:42.119
screenshots now, But generally Microsoft has
been doing a real good job of the

1314
01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:47.319
Yeah, they've got they their preview
program is very wide and well it's not

1315
01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:53.079
just that because you know, the
system stability joke about PS four firmware US

1316
01:16:53.239 --> 01:16:55.199
for a reason, because and there's
all the stuff that like you know,

1317
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:58.640
they exactly stuff that they promised that
hadn't made it in yet. It's still

1318
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:01.920
you know, does it play audio
CDs yet? I mean, honestly,

1319
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:05.840
who cares? But like I mean, yes, I'm with you, fucking

1320
01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:11.720
weird. Yeah, like a lot
of people still are waiting for d L

1321
01:17:11.760 --> 01:17:13.960
and a streaming and that's not in
yet. Yeah, even though that was

1322
01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:16.359
promised ages ago. Right, how
do you do screenshots on Xbox One?

1323
01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:20.680
I pull down the controller, double
tap and the same thing as the snap

1324
01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:25.399
or whatever. It's like double tap
and then hit Why so it's kind of

1325
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:28.439
not an immediate thing. Or you
say, Xbox, take a screenshot.

1326
01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:31.199
I'll probably just do that. Yes, that works. There's some other minor

1327
01:17:31.199 --> 01:17:34.760
stuff floating around, like they're saying
the trophies might sink automatically in the background.

1328
01:17:34.840 --> 01:17:40.319
Now, that'd be nice. It
should be so nice. I mean

1329
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:44.560
most people don't care, but I
care. Yeah, someone who unlocks trophies

1330
01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:46.359
on multiple PS fours and then often
forgets to sink them, and it's always

1331
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.399
fun. Like you know, someone
turns on a PS four around here that

1332
01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:53.199
hasn't been used in a while,
and then everything sinks all of a sudden,

1333
01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:55.279
and then I go home and go
like, oh what wait, Like

1334
01:17:55.319 --> 01:17:57.600
oh right, all right, I
got those trophies. I got those hell

1335
01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:00.479
Diver trophies at some point, even
though I don't own hell Diver. Yeah.

1336
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:04.239
Some other stuff like a possibly a
sixty frames a second setting for share

1337
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:11.359
play and remote play, which I
guess could be nice. Search the internet

1338
01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:15.439
for a trophy guide directly from the
PS four. It's weird. Sure,

1339
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:17.720
I don't know. Again, you
know, this is all leaked India stuff.

1340
01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:20.600
None of this is official, but
it doesn't sound like Sony has come

1341
01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:24.600
out and really denied any of it
either, so probably safe to assume the

1342
01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:27.199
stuff's happening. But yeah, like, thank thank god they got that suspend

1343
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:29.439
stuff in there. That's been a
long time coming. And we'll see if

1344
01:18:29.439 --> 01:18:30.680
it works. I hope it works. I mean they're bet attesting it,

1345
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.399
you know, Yes, that's true. We shall see, but it's promising.

1346
01:18:36.359 --> 01:18:39.760
Who likes that wall I last Wolfenstein
game? I bet? Yeah?

1347
01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:42.039
I bet? Dan? Did I
know Drew did? Yeah, it's cool.

1348
01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:44.840
That was a good game. They're
making more of it. Great.

1349
01:18:45.079 --> 01:18:49.119
They're putting out a downloadable standalone prequel
in May called Wolf and Stein The Old

1350
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:59.399
Blood, which says we'll see bj
Blastwitz infiltrating Castle Wolf and Stein. Huh.

1351
01:18:59.760 --> 01:19:02.600
All right, so it's the prequel
you've truly been waiting for. And

1352
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:06.760
what if it's just like story wise, like what if you're just finding Robot

1353
01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:10.079
Hitler at the end of this thing? That's very possible, Like, like

1354
01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:13.279
I mean, in fact, wasn't
Wasn't it part of the story in the

1355
01:19:13.279 --> 01:19:15.880
New Blood that that crazy scientist wasn't
was at that point the leader of the

1356
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:18.399
Third Reich. I think like Hitler
was out of the picture at that point,

1357
01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:26.239
right, Well, they very well
could tell the story of Blastwitz Hitler.

1358
01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:28.640
That makes I didn't even think about
that. That makes me way more

1359
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.600
excited for this. I wonder if
this will be tongue in cheek or have

1360
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:35.319
a slightly different like, you know, the first one was pretty pretty grim

1361
01:19:35.359 --> 01:19:42.319
and serious in tone. Uh,
Jimmy Hendricks is at your camp? I

1362
01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:45.359
hope. So that's pretty good.
That's that really happens. Oh it doesn't

1363
01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:46.600
the first time, right, I
thought you men in this one. Yeah,

1364
01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:48.880
this says it's set before the fall
of the Allies, so it'll still

1365
01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:54.880
be during World War Two. But
yeah, I look forward to see finally

1366
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:58.760
some World War two games. Yes, it's about time. It's been so

1367
01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:02.760
underserved. Elite Dangerous was announced for
the Xbox One. Drew, how does

1368
01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:05.800
that strike you really? I didn't
know that. Yeah, as the person

1369
01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:09.920
who spent a bunch of time with
the Elite Dangerous here, Yeah that could

1370
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:11.960
work, I think so, Yeah, that'd be cool. Like I always

1371
01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:15.840
thought that game was like, you
know, super keyboard heavy simulation type game.

1372
01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:18.520
It's it's not. No, No, there are a lot of systems,

1373
01:20:18.560 --> 01:20:24.960
but they they're done really intelligently on
in game menus. Okay, like

1374
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:28.800
in in World. Maybe it's like
menus that exist in your ship stuff like

1375
01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:31.920
that. All Right, that sounds
promising. That's just a that's just a

1376
01:20:31.920 --> 01:20:34.880
time to exclusive. It'll also,
if they are already saying, it'll also

1377
01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:39.239
come to PS four later. Oh
yeah, I'm curious to see how that

1378
01:20:39.279 --> 01:20:42.720
how that maps. I've been interested
in that game, but it's a little

1379
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:45.640
intimidating, yeah for sure. Like
you know, it's one of those things

1380
01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:46.399
where it's like, if I was
going to play it, I would probably

1381
01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:53.479
play it with a standard game pad, right and keyboard. Yeah, I

1382
01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:57.560
think that's a valid way to play
it. I haven't personally put much time

1383
01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:01.359
into playing it with the game pad, but uh, I hear people do

1384
01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:05.640
that totally fine. Yeah, that's
good to hear. Uh. And then

1385
01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:10.920
finally the Benefits recording. On a
Tuesday, we get all the late breaking

1386
01:21:10.960 --> 01:21:15.159
news there's a new Descent game possibly
in the works. Yeah, like,

1387
01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:19.279
where did that come from? Yeah, it's a launch Kickstarter. It's a

1388
01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:26.279
multiplayer focused Oh really Yeah, okay, so I mean, don't get me

1389
01:21:26.319 --> 01:21:30.359
wrong. I enjoyed the multiplayer in
Descent, and I guess forsaken now that

1390
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:34.359
I think about it, it's Forsaken
just a Descent game, yeah, pretty

1391
01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:36.680
basically. Yeah, I just want
to make sure it might well be.

1392
01:21:40.159 --> 01:21:42.960
Yeah, that's when I think about, like, hey, I want to

1393
01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:46.680
play Descent, like a multiplayer focused
game is not not what I'm after.

1394
01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:49.279
Yeah, I kind of like I
think multiplayers should be an aspect of it,

1395
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:53.520
But there it seems like they're definitely
putting that first. I kind of

1396
01:21:53.560 --> 01:21:57.000
like being alone deep in a month, I thought that was like part of

1397
01:21:57.039 --> 01:21:59.560
the kind of the core premise of
Descent. To me, it is that's

1398
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:02.960
just like flying around blind and all
these like the rewards make it look like

1399
01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:05.920
that they're you know, they're monetizing
it in a lot of different ways because

1400
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:11.960
like the there will be a bunch
of different ships, and depending on what

1401
01:22:12.039 --> 01:22:15.880
level you back at will get different
or more ships, and then like the

1402
01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:20.000
final tier of it is you will
be a subscriber in perpetuity. So like

1403
01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:24.760
some of these people worked on Star
Citizen and I look at that and go,

1404
01:22:24.840 --> 01:22:28.319
yeah, you did did. Yeah. I was just gonna say like

1405
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:30.600
fine, like whatever, Star Citizens
is doing fine, So yeah, I

1406
01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:33.039
don't know, Like I looked at
at that thing and it's like people from

1407
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:38.000
the original Descent, you know games, yes, involved, but I looked

1408
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.039
at that thing and said that this
is not at all what I am looking

1409
01:22:41.079 --> 01:22:43.760
for as a fan of Descent.
I don't know how to feel about that,

1410
01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:45.920
Like no, no part of that, like no, thank you,

1411
01:22:46.239 --> 01:22:48.720
Like say whatever you want about Star
Citizen, Like it is one thing,

1412
01:22:48.800 --> 01:22:51.439
you know, No, it's like
nine things. Well, yes, but

1413
01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:56.079
under one umbrella. Yeah, but
I mean business wise, like it's a

1414
01:22:56.119 --> 01:23:00.640
single entity selling things this way.
Sure, but for the if that like

1415
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:02.800
pricing, if that business model and
that philosophy is going to start extending out

1416
01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:06.119
to a bunch of other games,
like that seems like it's a scary precedent.

1417
01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:09.119
Yeah, I don't know. It's
it's hard to get a sense for

1418
01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:12.199
like what they would do in the
final product because they also say, like

1419
01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:14.119
you know, hey, you'll get
a copy of the game, which will

1420
01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:15.960
be a fifty dollars retail value.
So it's not like a free to play

1421
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:18.439
game where you get you'd go buy
the ships. It's like a buy the

1422
01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:21.800
game, then buy more ships.
Then you still have to subscribe to something

1423
01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:25.560
like how much are the tears here
that we're talking about at the top one,

1424
01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:27.199
it's like five grand or something like, well, yeah, it's like

1425
01:23:27.239 --> 01:23:30.239
fucking something insane. I don't know, like I didn't necessarily break it down,

1426
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:33.760
but it's just they've got three different
it looked like they had three different

1427
01:23:33.760 --> 01:23:38.279
potential ways to get money out of
players of that game, like, you

1428
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:42.520
know, aside from the Kickstarter like
wants it's out just listed in their rewards.

1429
01:23:42.640 --> 01:23:45.279
So it's the sort of thing where
it's like, Okay, that's nope,

1430
01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:47.680
no thanks, that's a little unnerving. If they have any they any

1431
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:51.119
kind of sample like test footage at
all, or is it yeah, a

1432
01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:55.199
CEB four Like it looks nice,
Okay, like there's some shots of minds

1433
01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:58.159
and stuff, and you go like
that looks like a good fucking inside of

1434
01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:02.159
a crazy space station. All right, that sounds good. Uh boss key

1435
01:24:02.359 --> 01:24:08.199
Cliff Pazinski's game or a new studio. Oh right, U four they coming

1436
01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:10.560
under the coming out of packs.
Yeah, they start showing off their thing

1437
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:12.640
there. I wasn't gonna bring it
up, but since we're talking about UV

1438
01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:15.039
four games like that, it is
also a nice looking UB four game.

1439
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:17.760
It's hard to say. I mean, I put the video up on the

1440
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:20.960
site because it's just it's kind of
a fucking ridiculous video. I think like

1441
01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:24.079
they put it out on their own, on its own, and it's kind

1442
01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:26.920
of ridiculous. It's just a bunch
of context of like they did a PAX

1443
01:24:27.039 --> 01:24:29.520
panel at the end at the end
said hey, let's take a look at

1444
01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:32.000
some very early teaser footage, and
then it's you know, it's it's like

1445
01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:34.800
panning around in an environment and you're
like, that tree looks good. It

1446
01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:38.560
is literally just a bunch of slow
pans in front of like here's a space

1447
01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:42.359
station, it's a Japanese like a
Buddhist temple. Yeah, and like like

1448
01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:45.159
okay, these are places where a
shooter might take place. It's definitely a

1449
01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:48.319
first person shooter, like from the
the nineties school of multiplayer first person shooters.

1450
01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:50.079
And yeah, so it's like you
look at it looks nice, but

1451
01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:55.119
it tells you nothing about you know, the game itself. Yeah, they

1452
01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:57.760
said, is it like an arena? It's it's yeah, it's it's meant

1453
01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:00.720
to be like a you know,
it's a old school style first person shooter

1454
01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:03.520
and it's it's pretty which everyone is
making now. It's free to play next

1455
01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:10.000
on that is involved. Please please
streak project Blue Street working title. Yeah,

1456
01:25:10.039 --> 01:25:13.000
yeah, I don't know. I
mean, why not why not make

1457
01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:16.039
another one of those at the same
time, Like you could be playing the

1458
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:19.079
new Unreal Tournament right now. Oh, that's right, you played some of

1459
01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:21.239
that. Yeah, how is that
right now? It's good? Yeah,

1460
01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:25.279
you know, there are only a
few maps, and but they've got there.

1461
01:25:25.319 --> 01:25:28.880
So there's like an Epic Games launcher
now and you launch that up and

1462
01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:31.359
that's got an integrated store, integrated
Unreal engine. Also, if you want

1463
01:25:31.359 --> 01:25:33.880
to do all your modding and stuff
like that there, you can do it

1464
01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:41.479
out of that launcher. So they're
selling hats really yeah. One of them

1465
01:25:41.520 --> 01:25:44.319
is a skull and then so the
kind of cool feature about some of their

1466
01:25:44.319 --> 01:25:48.079
hats is they change when you're in
the lead, Like the skull grows horns

1467
01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:55.760
the lead. That's ridiculous, hat
turns around and turns Gold's great. That's

1468
01:25:55.840 --> 01:26:00.399
really stupid. Yeah. Wow.
So they're already selling stuff for this game

1469
01:26:00.439 --> 01:26:03.439
that was barely playable. There were
like three hats in one map in the

1470
01:26:03.439 --> 01:26:06.840
store. The map of the map
was free, the hats where the hats

1471
01:26:06.880 --> 01:26:10.399
cost money. Do you know if
that store also functioned as a way to

1472
01:26:10.439 --> 01:26:13.920
get like plugins for GB four seems
like it. So wow, they really

1473
01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:17.000
have just unified everything. Yeah,
I mean like Fortnite is in there really

1474
01:26:17.119 --> 01:26:20.880
like the well, there's a tab
Fortnite. Yeah, that's apparently a video

1475
01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:24.840
game Fortnight. I forgot about that
game. Yeah, did you play that?

1476
01:26:24.960 --> 01:26:26.239
I played it? Yeah, I
played a lot of it. What

1477
01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:30.680
do you do? Build forts and
you shoot shoot monsters and stuff. Yeah,

1478
01:26:31.199 --> 01:26:33.680
it's all right, that's fun.
I think it's much sense. Now.

1479
01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:35.880
I feel like they took too long
with that thing, and now,

1480
01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:40.199
like I think it's gonna be weird
as a free to play thing. But

1481
01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:44.600
is it like a rust or Daisy? I haven't really played those. It's

1482
01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:48.760
not like a survival. It's an
action game, and they try to make

1483
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:53.119
it very easy to like you know
these big three by three squares and you

1484
01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:55.560
can like knock out the middle if
you want that to be the thing with

1485
01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:58.039
the window, or knock out the
middle and the one below that. It's

1486
01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:01.840
like a defense game that might where
you build the tower. Yeah yeah,

1487
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:04.960
I mean it's like a base defense
first person shooter. Yeah, like there

1488
01:27:04.960 --> 01:27:10.640
will be like uh tronold oh is
that that? No? I don't know,

1489
01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:13.399
not like that. So there will
be like a portal or something you

1490
01:27:13.399 --> 01:27:15.520
have to protect, and so you
have all this time to like build this

1491
01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:18.239
huge thing around it with all these
like crazy traps and stuff and things that'll

1492
01:27:18.239 --> 01:27:23.079
fling people into spikes or whatever.
And some of these levels you can actually

1493
01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:27.880
trigger when the storm comes in and
is this out? No? No,

1494
01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:30.399
no no. They they've done some
like parties and stuff for like big epic

1495
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:34.239
fans. But yeah, they've been
talking about Fortnite for god like what three

1496
01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:38.319
years at least. I don't even
know. Anything feels so long. They've

1497
01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:41.279
been running an alpha for a while
since they know that. They have a

1498
01:27:41.359 --> 01:27:44.479
checkbox on the sign up form that
says, are you a member of the

1499
01:27:44.479 --> 01:27:45.800
press. I would really like to
try it at less a game that I

1500
01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:49.319
would like quite a bit, But
it's been a long time coming. It's

1501
01:27:49.359 --> 01:27:53.760
like the first UE four announced game, right that sounds right? I don't

1502
01:27:53.800 --> 01:27:59.920
know anyway, Yeah, UT School. It plays like UT with some different

1503
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:05.520
some slightly different mechanics, like it
uh doesn't have the energy stuff like the

1504
01:28:05.680 --> 01:28:10.039
you know double tap you know,
tap backwards a bunch to activate healthy gen

1505
01:28:10.760 --> 01:28:15.520
right and all that sort of Yeah
that was around like speed boost. It's

1506
01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:18.720
got a wall jump, so you
kind of uh, does it just have

1507
01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:21.960
the real basic like dash left and
right stuff? Yeah, but so you

1508
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:25.920
use that when you're up against a
wall, so like you'll jump into a

1509
01:28:25.960 --> 01:28:29.079
wall and then double tap the direction
away from the wall to go kick off

1510
01:28:29.119 --> 01:28:30.640
of it and get a bit of
a boost. That's it's it's that's its

1511
01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:33.880
movement thing. But yeah, I
don't know. You can do shot combos

1512
01:28:33.920 --> 01:28:38.560
and fucking all right. You know
it has a flat can in it.

1513
01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:41.920
It's pretty awesome. It looks great, and they're putting out like Nightly builds

1514
01:28:41.960 --> 01:28:45.279
that thing, right. I don't
know that the when you install it through

1515
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:46.560
the game's launcher and all that other
stuff. I don't know that you're getting

1516
01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:51.399
Nightlies at that point, but I'm
not sure. But they they've added maps

1517
01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:55.319
to it and stuff like it.
It's yeah, it's it's cool. Video

1518
01:28:55.359 --> 01:28:59.000
games have gotten weird. Yeah,
the ways you get them, yes,

1519
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:01.239
the times at which you play them, like, yeah, everything the games

1520
01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:05.800
themselves pretty familiar, but yeah,
everything's everything's crazy and you know, yeah

1521
01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:12.039
it's kind of cool. Yeah,
every dull moment lately. All right,

1522
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.319
well, uh, I think that's
gonna do it for news. It's everything

1523
01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:20.479
I could find coming out in GDC. Yeah, emails, emails, emails,

1524
01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:27.119
what BombCast a giant bomb dot com? That's what okay asked. I

1525
01:29:27.199 --> 01:29:30.079
told you, well, you do't
gonna be a jerk about it. I'm

1526
01:29:30.319 --> 01:29:34.520
just i'mcasta champom dot com. Okay, here are some emails. Here's one

1527
01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:40.039
from David and Melbourne, Australia,
who has an interesting question for Drew's up

1528
01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:45.119
about the DPRK. Okay, this
question is more directed towards Drew, but

1529
01:29:45.159 --> 01:29:47.680
if the others have any suggestions,
feel free. Last year about getting around

1530
01:29:47.680 --> 01:29:50.920
to old subscriber content, I decided
to watch Drew's North Korean tour recap.

1531
01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:55.399
I'm heavily invested in international relations,
and the video revealed to me just how

1532
01:29:55.399 --> 01:30:00.079
possibly tripped to the DPRK is.
I'm nineteen years old and this April I

1533
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:01.960
will be attending the kim Il sum
Birthday tour, so I want to thank

1534
01:30:01.960 --> 01:30:06.920
you for opening my eyes to this
possibility. My question is, aside from

1535
01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:11.439
when I'm actually touring the sites,
I'm not sure what entertainment I will have

1536
01:30:11.479 --> 01:30:15.760
available to me. I'm traveling alone, although in a tour group, and

1537
01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:18.119
obviously I won't have access to things
many of us take for granted. I

1538
01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:20.800
have a three DS, but I'm
not sure if that is permitted. Do

1539
01:30:20.800 --> 01:30:25.840
you have any suggestions of what to
bring or to do to avoid reaching boredom

1540
01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:28.960
in the five nights I'll be staying. I'll be staying in China for a

1541
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:31.199
week. But my parents lived there
currently and I've visited twice, that stage

1542
01:30:31.199 --> 01:30:36.319
of the trip is a non issue. They were a little perplexed by my

1543
01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:43.960
I brought a d S light,
but they allowed it. Really, Yeah,

1544
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:46.239
the phone is a definite no go. Phone is a definite no anything

1545
01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:50.359
with a GPS. They'll even check
your cameras because some digital cameras have GPS.

1546
01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:58.000
Cameras. Okay, cameras are okay, Okay. Certain people have said

1547
01:30:58.079 --> 01:31:03.079
that cameras with like a lens one
hundred and five millimeters or larger is not

1548
01:31:03.199 --> 01:31:06.840
acceptable than seeing too much. But
I saw a guy with a telephoto or

1549
01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:11.720
something. So yeah, So I
think I think your DS should be fine.

1550
01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:14.119
I think a kindle is fine.
I think I'm pretty sure I brought

1551
01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:21.640
my kindle. Yeah, I definitely
no cell phone. Mmm uh yeah,

1552
01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:26.920
I mean probably be alright with three
DS. They I see you recall them.

1553
01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:28.880
Yeah, yeah, three d should
be fine. But I seem to

1554
01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:31.960
recall them keeping us pretty busy with
like the touring stuff, and then when

1555
01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:39.000
we got back to the hotel,
it was either like grab some food and

1556
01:31:39.079 --> 01:31:43.960
some drink and go to sleep or
just crash. Uh So yeah, from

1557
01:31:43.960 --> 01:31:45.960
what I recall that the schedule was
was pretty tightly packed. Did you have

1558
01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:49.439
any choice on where you ate?
No? Really, Like here's the restaurant,

1559
01:31:49.479 --> 01:31:55.520
You're ready, You're eating out tonight. That's intense. What happens if

1560
01:31:55.520 --> 01:31:59.039
you just leave your hotel and you
can't want to go down? Oh damn,

1561
01:31:59.079 --> 01:32:01.640
you can't just leave your tell no
oh boys like dude like that round

1562
01:32:01.720 --> 01:32:08.680
McDonald's. McDonald's. Yes, they're
everywhere, not in North Korea. They're

1563
01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:11.399
actually not in North Korea. I
didn't know that. Look, I know,

1564
01:32:11.439 --> 01:32:13.880
North Korea's crazy. I didn't know
they didn't have like giant chainstors and

1565
01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:15.079
stuff. You remember, remember,
Like I mean, you've seen like I

1566
01:32:15.119 --> 01:32:18.800
think the National geographic like inside North
Korea. But you've seen like eighties movies

1567
01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:25.279
where they depict Russia and it's just
like this communist like utopia. Right,

1568
01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:30.720
there's no like communist McDonald's No,
that's capitalism. Man. I thought every

1569
01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:33.399
country I had like a Billy McDonald
kimy don't play like that, Okay,

1570
01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:36.640
I had no idea. Honestly,
North three is not a nice place to

1571
01:32:36.680 --> 01:32:39.920
live. Oh, I know,
I'll think enough to know that. Let's

1572
01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:43.359
put it that way. Yeah.
But yeah, man, have have fun.

1573
01:32:44.039 --> 01:32:45.319
I mean you could try to sneak
out of your hotel. Yeah,

1574
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:48.000
I mean what you might find.
I'd find a quarter pounder In North Korea.

1575
01:32:48.039 --> 01:32:50.920
You can bring a book, I
don't bring the book. Don't bring

1576
01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:55.399
a bible? Really, do not
bring a Oh shit, isn't there like

1577
01:32:55.439 --> 01:32:58.560
no religion at all? There?
Yes? What do they what do they

1578
01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:00.399
do? The opiate of the people? Like, what do they do if

1579
01:33:00.439 --> 01:33:03.960
you have one on your person?
Though? There was a guy who an

1580
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:11.560
evangelical type of man, who hid
a Bible in a bathroom hoping that someone

1581
01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:17.640
would find it and it would enlighten
them in jail North Korean prison, don't

1582
01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:21.079
bring a Bible, okay, so
they view it as like propaganda basics,

1583
01:33:21.439 --> 01:33:28.079
it's on here, kendall, dude, probably be all right, a person

1584
01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:31.239
will use only man that sucks a
lot. I'm not going to move there

1585
01:33:31.239 --> 01:33:34.159
ever, No, No, I
don't think you are. Someday, I

1586
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:39.840
believe you when you say that someday
North Korea will change. I think by

1587
01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:43.760
forcive necessary. Yeah, I should
ask the chef, the US Ambassador South

1588
01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:49.119
Korea about that. Ask him house
faces right. Uh. Spinny someone who

1589
01:33:49.159 --> 01:33:56.000
identifies as Spinny from Toronto. I
just got from back from GDC and says,

1590
01:33:56.840 --> 01:33:59.560
in my week in San Francisco,
I saw at least a dozen different

1591
01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:02.760
grown adult men riding razor scooters around
the streets of San Francisco. It has

1592
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:09.000
become what's wrong with San Francisco more
prolific recently. I don't know why.

1593
01:34:09.039 --> 01:34:14.720
You know what. Also I'm seeing
a lot of is the the powered skateboard.

1594
01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:16.199
Is that the thing where it's like
one little wheel and you stand on

1595
01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:19.000
either side of it and it just
you zip around like something from the future.

1596
01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:21.800
Oh, I keep saying skates floor
with a motor on it. Literally,

1597
01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:25.439
it's not a it's not a weird
unicycle thing, see, I see

1598
01:34:25.479 --> 01:34:28.479
the weird It's just like a little
like thing you stand on with one wheel

1599
01:34:28.479 --> 01:34:30.960
and it takes her. You mean, like a skateboard with two wheels,

1600
01:34:31.399 --> 01:34:35.239
one big one. Yeah, it's
like a unicycle, but instead of sitting

1601
01:34:35.239 --> 01:34:39.479
on it, what it's a it's
you just put your feet on two little

1602
01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:42.359
platforms. That possible. Nothing comes
up off the wheel. It's just the

1603
01:34:42.359 --> 01:34:45.359
wheel and the two platforms and you
just zimp up hills. You started talking

1604
01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:47.439
like a really broad wheel. Yeah, it's a yeah, you don't have

1605
01:34:47.439 --> 01:34:50.199
to balance it. No, I
don't think so. But it's crazy looking.

1606
01:34:50.600 --> 01:34:55.439
That's like something from the Jetsons.
Yeah, but the Razor scooter things

1607
01:34:55.439 --> 01:34:58.720
stupid as it's like, dude,
a thirty five year old dudes and suits

1608
01:34:59.119 --> 01:35:00.319
with Razor scooter. I don't know. They go a lot faster than me

1609
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:03.439
when I'm walking. Yeah, but
come on, time is money record.

1610
01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:08.479
It isn't the financial distric usually that
I see exactly. Then you just gotta

1611
01:35:08.479 --> 01:35:11.199
walk them up hills, though,
I just want to close line fourteen people

1612
01:35:11.239 --> 01:35:13.920
every time they walk from the mcgoverer
station to hear. Yeah, they're really

1613
01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:15.159
light, like Razor scooters are really
black, so you know, walking them

1614
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:17.560
up a hill wouldn't be a problem. I always thought of the Razor scooter

1615
01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:24.239
is like an indoor like down the
hall type thing. Yeah, not necessarily,

1616
01:35:24.279 --> 01:35:29.199
you've got like a big server warehouse
to deal with. Sure, sure,

1617
01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:33.399
been like this office. No,
man, no, don't get a

1618
01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:38.359
segue. Seguys are cooler and scooters, aren't they. I don't hate segways

1619
01:35:38.399 --> 01:35:40.880
as much as I hate. If
I see a grown man on a segue,

1620
01:35:40.920 --> 01:35:43.720
I hate them less than a grown
man on a Razor scooter. I

1621
01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:45.560
thought Razor when I was a kid, I thought Razor scooters were super fun.

1622
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:49.039
Oh yeah on them and stuff like
that. It was it was cool.

1623
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:51.000
So bunny, how I see those
people, I go like, man,

1624
01:35:51.039 --> 01:35:54.199
yeah, razors, I mean at
that point, but also they're not

1625
01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:56.880
yes, yeah, a nice tail
like yeah, proper tail lips. At

1626
01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.119
that point, it is practically like
just a BMX that you stand on,

1627
01:35:59.239 --> 01:36:01.640
right, Yeah, yeah, I
mean the end times are coming, like,

1628
01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:05.119
you know, what do you want? That's what's wrong. It's the

1629
01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:09.199
worst. No, it's not what's
wrong. It's just it's a you can

1630
01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:11.840
look at it and see that that's
a sign that all this is a fair

1631
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:13.880
go away. Yeah, you know, I think I again, what you're

1632
01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:17.680
saying, nothing's worse than the unicycle, though it's probably a unicycle. What

1633
01:36:17.800 --> 01:36:20.960
you ever tried to ride one?
No? Really hard? Yeah, I'm

1634
01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:25.359
sure with a unicycle. I've no
wrong with the unicycle except if someone's trying

1635
01:36:25.359 --> 01:36:29.039
to ride one as transportation. Like
if someone's like, fucking I got a

1636
01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:30.359
unicycle, let's goof around, I'm
like, yeah, dude, awesome.

1637
01:36:30.399 --> 01:36:32.479
Yeah, if you're in the circus
or if you just run a dork around

1638
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:35.960
in a park, that's fine.
But they're like unicycle of the street.

1639
01:36:35.960 --> 01:36:39.319
It's like, well, fuck you
asshole, show off piece of shit,

1640
01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:42.239
which because I'm stilts while you're at
it, somebody who has to walk in

1641
01:36:42.279 --> 01:36:45.399
the city a lot, that's just
like a bicyclist who's taking up less space.

1642
01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:47.479
Sure, I've had a penny farthing. What the fuck is that?

1643
01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:51.439
It's the giant bicycle with a black
wheel. Wow, I've never actually seen

1644
01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:54.399
one of those in the wild.
I've seen. Yeah, I've seen people

1645
01:36:54.439 --> 01:36:58.199
in San Francisco riding my entire life, even when you're kid. I've gotten

1646
01:36:58.199 --> 01:37:00.520
mad when you see the people like
riding their bikes and they got their arms

1647
01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:04.680
folding, they're not holding handlebars,
and we're not as you fucking missile,

1648
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:12.399
drop kick that guy. That man. It's a contentious issue. How about

1649
01:37:12.399 --> 01:37:18.079
the field laid down bicycle the recumbent
bikes. Yeah, I don't get mad

1650
01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:20.840
about those because it's usually like dudes
in their mid fifties, and I think,

1651
01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:25.840
like maybe they have like leg problems. Yeah, maybe, like maybe

1652
01:37:25.840 --> 01:37:29.960
there's a health reason for this show
up, asshole? Wait really? Oh

1653
01:37:30.039 --> 01:37:31.600
yeah, certain bike seats. If
you don't get the one with the groove

1654
01:37:31.720 --> 01:37:35.640
down the middle, they can mess
up your man parts. Yeah did what

1655
01:37:36.039 --> 01:37:41.600
M didn't want to know that.
I didn't realize you guys had such strict

1656
01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:45.800
standards for acceptable biking practices. Just
ride a bike like a normal person.

1657
01:37:45.840 --> 01:37:49.119
Shut up a bunch of bikers a
fix. Oh that's the hipster thing,

1658
01:37:49.199 --> 01:37:55.079
right, and it's probably stupid.
It's probably stupid. I just want to

1659
01:37:55.119 --> 01:38:00.039
fucking sick ass BMX bike with pegs
and dice for valve caps or pegs the

1660
01:38:00.479 --> 01:38:04.039
Yeah, okay, so someone can
ride on it right there? You know,

1661
01:38:04.079 --> 01:38:08.960
I can do awesome tricks. Oh, okay, ride on my bike

1662
01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:12.039
while I'm riding my bike. It's
my bike, So you can stand out

1663
01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:14.680
of there like, yeah, I
can stand on it and do sticker wheelies.

1664
01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:17.840
Or I can stand on the front
pegs and hop around some flatland shit.

1665
01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:23.680
All right, Conrad and pro BMX
in stores now, there you go

1666
01:38:24.800 --> 01:38:30.319
be mixed Replex not in stores now. Conrad from Saint Louis has a request

1667
01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:34.800
for Jeff. Okay, are you
ready for this? Yeah? Okay,

1668
01:38:34.920 --> 01:38:40.960
hit me better be. Jeff used
to use this weird snooty voice sometimes when

1669
01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:43.640
mocking things on the hot Spot,
but I don't think he's used it in

1670
01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:46.760
a long time. It was very
aristocratic and used phrases such as perhaps it

1671
01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:51.319
is you who is stupid and listen
here friend. He used a similar yet

1672
01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:55.159
inferior snooty voice a few weeks ago, and it made me think of this.

1673
01:38:56.119 --> 01:38:58.439
Also, where the hell did the
hot Spot archives go on game Spot?

1674
01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:00.640
And why the hell am I having
to download them through a torrant?

1675
01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:03.800
Also also one eight seven seven five
zero six eight three two four. I

1676
01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:06.199
think that still rings the phone next
to you, doesn't really? Yeah,

1677
01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:11.000
should find out sometime or that's there's
still a voicemail box. Yeah, that

1678
01:39:11.119 --> 01:39:15.760
probably a setup for whatever the hot
spot thing was, whatever it turned into.

1679
01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:18.039
Sure, I have no idea what
he's talking about voice bice. Really,

1680
01:39:18.079 --> 01:39:20.840
I don't know, all right,
whatever didn't it was a long time

1681
01:39:20.840 --> 01:39:25.399
ago. I sure there's a lot
of voices that come and go over the

1682
01:39:25.479 --> 01:39:30.359
years. Yeah, I don't know. I uh so we I recently got

1683
01:39:30.399 --> 01:39:35.279
access to like an FTP full of
like two thousand and six era game spot

1684
01:39:35.319 --> 01:39:40.920
ship some of that, and there
is just a podcast directory on there that's

1685
01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:43.800
full of stuff. It's very scatter
shot though. Yeah, that archive is

1686
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:47.079
nowhere near complete. Unfortunately, it
has Brian Eckberg is a sports podcast on

1687
01:39:47.119 --> 01:39:51.439
it. Yes, I wasn't there
some other stuff and random selection of games

1688
01:39:51.439 --> 01:39:55.319
of the year two thousand and six. Yeah, videos and stuff. Yeah,

1689
01:39:55.439 --> 01:39:57.359
yeah, I don't know. I
mean, at some point they redesigned

1690
01:39:57.359 --> 01:40:00.159
the side so many times that they
lost a bunch of old videos and that's

1691
01:40:00.159 --> 01:40:02.319
crazy, but that's how it went. I don't know. Oh yeah,

1692
01:40:02.399 --> 01:40:08.199
I didn't realize that the hotspot was
no longer just available for downloading. But

1693
01:40:08.199 --> 01:40:11.520
then the video game podcasts are kind
of ephemeral, right, It's like they

1694
01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:15.039
talk about the issues the day and
then they're sort of outdated. Yeah,

1695
01:40:15.079 --> 01:40:17.239
I guess, I don't know.
They're fun to go back to the only

1696
01:40:17.279 --> 01:40:19.399
gaming magazine. Yeah, yeah,
I don't. I don't mean they don't

1697
01:40:19.439 --> 01:40:21.399
have any value, but you know, yeah, it's one of those things

1698
01:40:21.399 --> 01:40:25.479
like they don't currently have a podcast, so they don't currently have a podcast

1699
01:40:25.520 --> 01:40:29.640
section they could use to host old
episodes of stuff, which you know is

1700
01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:31.800
a bummer, But that's I don't
know. I just just like with emulators

1701
01:40:31.800 --> 01:40:34.760
and stuff, the Internet will take
it upon itself to archive things when when

1702
01:40:34.760 --> 01:40:40.000
nobody else does so, it's not
ideal that at least it exists. I

1703
01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:45.439
suppose Mike P from New Jersey,
I want to know about one versus one

1704
01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:51.119
hundred? Mm, I'm here reminiscing
about two two thousands of nine's hottest gaming

1705
01:40:51.159 --> 01:40:56.479
experience that was one versus one hundred? Why was Microsoft so compelled to do

1706
01:40:56.560 --> 01:40:59.960
something so unique on its platforms,
scrap it and then not iterated on it

1707
01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:04.399
or try something again in the same
vein? Was there not enough advertising revenue

1708
01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:09.199
coming in? Were they giving away
too many Microsoft points? Was Chris Cashman's

1709
01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:12.800
salary too high? All on all, one versus one hundred was a great

1710
01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:15.000
online experience that gave me a reason
to log into Xbox Live, and I

1711
01:41:15.039 --> 01:41:18.720
wish something similar was still offered.
Do you guys think we'll ever see any

1712
01:41:18.720 --> 01:41:23.239
game show like games on our gaming
platforms again? Or is the Chris Cashman

1713
01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:29.000
American Dream truly did I liked one
versus was dumb? Did you ever get

1714
01:41:29.039 --> 01:41:30.119
on? No? Well, like
I never got to be the one.

1715
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:32.520
If I was the one one,
damn it? How did? There was

1716
01:41:32.560 --> 01:41:35.359
no way to like finagle your way
into that, right, it just happened.

1717
01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:38.359
So I just think I just randomly
got it, and I think I

1718
01:41:38.439 --> 01:41:41.880
blew it pretty bad. Man.
That was a neat idea, it was.

1719
01:41:42.039 --> 01:41:44.319
But yeah, I mean that thing
was supposed to be AD supported,

1720
01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:48.079
and if you remember, all the
ads on it were ship and repetitive and

1721
01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:53.239
mostly different Microsoft. Yah. Right, I think that they probably just didn't

1722
01:41:53.239 --> 01:41:57.960
ever sell ads and it never made
businesses. I still think it's an interesting

1723
01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:00.600
idea that could work, though,
Yeah, if I got behind it the

1724
01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:03.119
right. Yeah, that type of
like live Yeah, that feeling of something

1725
01:42:03.159 --> 01:42:06.800
being live and happening right now,
I think, like totally like knowing he

1726
01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:10.439
was in the booth somewhere doing the
announcing, yeah, right then. I

1727
01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:12.760
always thought it was cool, you
know, it was a cool idea the

1728
01:42:13.239 --> 01:42:16.239
e a UFC game when they were
going to do live commentary or like they

1729
01:42:16.239 --> 01:42:20.039
were going to build up their online
battles into just like Okay, this Sunday

1730
01:42:20.119 --> 01:42:24.439
is the thing. So we're gonna
do live commentary over it while you fight.

1731
01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:27.199
You'll be able to record a little
pre fight video. And you know,

1732
01:42:27.279 --> 01:42:30.720
like it was a really neat idea
for a game that wasn't good enough

1733
01:42:30.760 --> 01:42:32.680
to It wasn't. It wasn't.
It was a thea Sports MMA game,

1734
01:42:32.680 --> 01:42:35.439
not the UFC game. Did any
of that ever happened? Yeah, Like

1735
01:42:35.520 --> 01:42:40.439
briefly they did one before the game
was out for reviewers, and I don't

1736
01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:43.640
know what they did with it after
launch, but I don't think it lasted

1737
01:42:43.720 --> 01:42:45.880
very long. Yeah, it sounds
like the kind of thing that's pretty hard

1738
01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:48.680
to sustain if it's not generating money
of some kind. Yeah, like the

1739
01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:51.479
resources that go into like hey,
we're gonna do a live show for this,

1740
01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:54.920
it's like, no, you guys
need to work on the sequel or

1741
01:42:55.119 --> 01:42:57.840
you guys are all getting laid off, right, you know, Like that's

1742
01:42:58.159 --> 01:43:02.760
yeah Madden stuff. It's a ship, you fucker's Yeah, Madden got a

1743
01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:09.520
ship. Uh. Bobby has a
question for the Ages. What's the best

1744
01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:14.520
pizza topping, real or imagined Pepperoni? I want to call your attention to

1745
01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:18.640
the word imagined cheese macaroni and cheese. Peze is pretty good. They just

1746
01:43:18.640 --> 01:43:23.520
put a bunch of Any of these
toppings are imaginary. I don't think you're

1747
01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:27.000
thinking big enough. We have to
imagine like any kind of food has been

1748
01:43:27.039 --> 01:43:30.159
put on a pie. Unicorn,
Yeah that tastes good. Now we're talking.

1749
01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:35.319
That's probably pretty gamy. Yeah,
Unicorn's like a horse. Hope you

1750
01:43:35.399 --> 01:43:40.920
really wow? Yes, okay,
that's a good one. No, the

1751
01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:44.239
last thing I want when I eat
a finish eating a pizza is hope if

1752
01:43:44.239 --> 01:43:46.439
you're putting weird things on your pizza, because there is no hope. Yes,

1753
01:43:46.479 --> 01:43:49.680
you're all you're fresh out. Well, once you've consumed it all,

1754
01:43:49.720 --> 01:43:55.600
there is no more left. All
right, Okay, that's fair. That's

1755
01:43:55.600 --> 01:43:58.199
a fair point. You really think
it spits pepperoni Like people said, like,

1756
01:43:58.239 --> 01:44:00.319
hey, get a pepperoni pizza for
a reason, Like there's a reason

1757
01:44:00.359 --> 01:44:03.479
that that's the thing people say when
they talk about a pizza. Pepperoni's like

1758
01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:06.880
number five. That's like, plain
cheese is way better than pepperoni. I

1759
01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:11.920
don't think she's counts as a topping. Extra cheese. I get like cheese,

1760
01:44:12.039 --> 01:44:15.680
I know you can, but it's
assumed. It is assumed when you

1761
01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:17.800
get a pizza that it's gonna have
cheese on it. Yeah, I think

1762
01:44:17.800 --> 01:44:20.600
that's a fair statement. I've never
even seen it. I totally agree with

1763
01:44:20.680 --> 01:44:24.520
you. But yes, so I
don't think she's get a cheeseless pizza.

1764
01:44:24.600 --> 01:44:28.159
She's Italy, right, But cheese
does not rank in the toppings list extra

1765
01:44:28.239 --> 01:44:31.359
cheese does? It costs extra just
as much as sausage or pepperoni? Would

1766
01:44:31.479 --> 01:44:34.760
that the top it's a box you
check on pizza Hud. But if no

1767
01:44:34.760 --> 01:44:38.319
one's like, hey, let's get
a sausage pizza, Like, no one

1768
01:44:38.399 --> 01:44:42.199
says that let's get a sausage pizza. No one said no people said that.

1769
01:44:42.159 --> 01:44:44.680
That will say like people will say
like, let's get a pizza,

1770
01:44:45.039 --> 01:44:45.880
and then they'll be like, what
kind of pizza do you want? And

1771
01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:49.199
you'll be like, sausage, oh, because it's not assumed that sausage is

1772
01:44:49.199 --> 01:44:53.079
on it. But when you say
let's get a let's get a pepperoni pizza,

1773
01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:55.720
Like, that's that's the thing.
People say, like how you're like

1774
01:44:55.800 --> 01:44:58.960
verging on an Italian accent when you
start to see that's how it comes out,

1775
01:44:59.119 --> 01:45:00.640
man, that's how it comes out. You're not quite getting there though,

1776
01:45:02.319 --> 01:45:06.039
sausage on When we went to that
fucking pizza place next to the arcade,

1777
01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:10.960
they had cheese pizza slices and they
had pepperoni pizza slices because they know

1778
01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:14.920
what sells. They didn't have any
fucking sausage pizza slices. That's the you

1779
01:45:14.960 --> 01:45:16.680
know, the trinity of pizza is. It's just their sausage. They're pepperoni.

1780
01:45:16.680 --> 01:45:19.920
There's cheese sausage. Yeah, oh
yeah, I mean that's you know,

1781
01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:24.000
I'm not like, I'm not saying
look like that that's that I only

1782
01:45:24.039 --> 01:45:26.720
want pepperoni. But I'm saying,
like, if you're talking about like what

1783
01:45:26.800 --> 01:45:30.800
topping is the fucking Hall of Fame
number one with a bullet, fucking first

1784
01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:34.399
time voting sausage, it's pepperoni every
time. You know it's underrated. Substitute

1785
01:45:34.439 --> 01:45:40.359
marinara sauce for barbecue and get chicken
on it. That's a good move.

1786
01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:43.720
That's that's a that's a power move. Maybe you get bacon or sausage on

1787
01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:45.399
that too, Yes, yes,
bacon can be a very good green onion.

1788
01:45:45.720 --> 01:45:49.880
What what those things go with?
Those things? You're ruining, you

1789
01:45:50.199 --> 01:45:54.319
know, you're detracting from the pizza, meat and cheese. List them out

1790
01:45:54.359 --> 01:45:59.560
Dan one through five. Oh wow. Number one sausage. Number close to

1791
01:46:00.079 --> 01:46:05.039
is extra cheese. Number three is
a bacon, Number four is macaroni and

1792
01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:09.279
cheese, and number five is pepperoni. That's you're just making shit up.

1793
01:46:09.399 --> 01:46:12.079
Just five number five. I've eaten
so many of those, so much.

1794
01:46:12.319 --> 01:46:15.840
No problems with bacon on a pizza. But you can't just get bacon on

1795
01:46:15.239 --> 01:46:18.760
the most Dan reichered ass list I've
ever heard of anything in You gotta support

1796
01:46:18.880 --> 01:46:21.520
that you get. If you want
to support a pepperoni pizza with some bacon

1797
01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:26.000
on it, you're in business.
I get bacon and extra cheese, a

1798
01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:30.439
lot fucking bacon and pepperoni. Jesus
for it's probably pretty good. It's like

1799
01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:33.640
bacon and sausage, Bacon and sausage. So much grease. I am not

1800
01:46:33.680 --> 01:46:38.920
anti pepperoni by any mean so much
grease. It's yeah, I like a

1801
01:46:38.960 --> 01:46:42.600
lot of vegetables on the pizza because
Round Table would make a they make a

1802
01:46:42.640 --> 01:46:45.399
pepperoni pizza that has three different types
of pepperoni on it. Wait if you

1803
01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:48.199
want the so so it's just some
regular ass pepperoni. I didn't know there

1804
01:46:48.239 --> 01:46:53.319
were other than there's some like bigger
than normal pepperoni big, and then there's

1805
01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:56.880
those tiny ass pepperonis that curl up
the little bowls when they cook, and

1806
01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:00.960
which is like they filled with Yeah, they fill with That's the actual like

1807
01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:04.119
downside to it is like you've got
these little bowls of grease all over your

1808
01:47:04.119 --> 01:47:09.680
pizza. Here's what psychopaths do.
Don't do the thing where there's pepperoni and

1809
01:47:09.680 --> 01:47:12.920
then the cheese is on top of
that. I hate that. I don't.

1810
01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:15.199
I mean, yeah, like I
don't see any one of that,

1811
01:47:15.239 --> 01:47:16.640
but like I don't care. Check
it out. Check it out. What

1812
01:47:16.680 --> 01:47:20.079
if you put down the pepperoni and
then the cheese and then more pepperoni,

1813
01:47:20.159 --> 01:47:24.640
No, wait, more pepper does
I count? No? Because if getting

1814
01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:29.039
more peers up the invisible pepperoni fucks
it up because you're biting and you don't

1815
01:47:29.039 --> 01:47:30.800
know where the pepperoni starts. So
if you just nibble like the very end

1816
01:47:30.840 --> 01:47:33.560
of a pepperoni and you pull it
away, it just slides like half the

1817
01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:36.600
fucking cheese off under your chin.
Like an idiot. I didn't realize I

1818
01:47:36.640 --> 01:47:40.279
need to know where the pepperoni is. Didn't realize eating tea and pizza was

1819
01:47:40.319 --> 01:47:44.640
so technical. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I use a forking knife

1820
01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:46.039
most of the time. Do you
really? Yeah? Really, even in

1821
01:47:46.079 --> 01:47:49.159
your home it's greasy, it is. You're right, you're not wrong.

1822
01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:53.399
But you can always wash your hands. Yeah, but if I if I

1823
01:47:53.479 --> 01:47:56.920
use a fork and knife, I
don't have to. Okay, I probably

1824
01:47:57.560 --> 01:48:01.039
he's sometimes I'm typing while I meant
so, you know, okay, do

1825
01:48:01.079 --> 01:48:04.079
another stuff that's fair. I've probably
said this before. This is one of

1826
01:48:04.079 --> 01:48:08.119
the best moves is you get the
Totinos party pizzas. I did this almost

1827
01:48:08.159 --> 01:48:11.800
every day for breakfast in college.
You put two Totino's party pizzas. Which

1828
01:48:11.800 --> 01:48:14.560
time the day did you order breakfast? Did you eat? I mean I

1829
01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:17.319
usually woke up it like one or
two allege so, but you take two,

1830
01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:20.920
preferably combination tacos really good too.
Of the Totino's party pizzas. Put

1831
01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:25.039
him in there. Combination. What
is combination? It's like the little cube

1832
01:48:25.039 --> 01:48:28.840
pepperoni and you can actually you can
bake it like this, or you can

1833
01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:30.479
do it afterwards. You fold the
one on top of the other, so

1834
01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:33.119
it's like a big sandwich and all
the toppings around the middle. You can

1835
01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:35.560
just hold it like a dam burger
and you eat two party pizzas at once

1836
01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:38.720
for breakfast. That sounds okay,
it's real good. Did you say there

1837
01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:42.279
was a taco pizza. I don't
know if they still make you say the

1838
01:48:42.279 --> 01:48:45.680
lord taco. Yeah, they have
taco pizza party pizzas. It's for parties

1839
01:48:46.359 --> 01:48:49.800
or breakfast or all the breakfast party. Yeah. Yeah. People that would

1840
01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:54.159
eat a taco pizza probably not a
party. I have no trouble believing that.

1841
01:48:54.359 --> 01:49:01.319
Yeah. Uh. Darren from Brunswick, Ohio has a hypothetical for you

1842
01:49:01.359 --> 01:49:05.720
can win twenty million dollars by sinking
one shot from half court with a basketball.

1843
01:49:06.159 --> 01:49:10.840
You get ten attempts. If you
miss, you have to spend two

1844
01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:15.039
years in prison. You can't train. You have to do it today.

1845
01:49:16.039 --> 01:49:19.079
Ten shots from half court, yes, no, ten chances from half court

1846
01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:21.560
no, no, not even yet. No, no, I wouldn't sink

1847
01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:25.279
one of those. I wouldn't do
it for a month in prison being the

1848
01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:30.399
possibilding. That's a that is a
shockingly well thought out answer from you.

1849
01:49:30.800 --> 01:49:34.760
Solitary. Yeah, solitary is like
arguably worse. But can I bring in

1850
01:49:34.840 --> 01:49:41.079
like a three D s Yes,
but no chargers. Okay, Uh,

1851
01:49:41.199 --> 01:49:44.119
as many fucked up things as there
are wrong with the prison system, like

1852
01:49:44.199 --> 01:49:49.399
solitary is it's real bad. I
mean from Yeah, it's super terrible psychologically,

1853
01:49:49.439 --> 01:49:53.159
but I would rather put my mind
at risk in solitary, yes,

1854
01:49:53.239 --> 01:49:59.720
than everything everything else at risk or
whatever general population. I'm saying it's not

1855
01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:02.119
as someone who's never been to prison. Yeah, that seems like the way

1856
01:50:02.119 --> 01:50:04.800
to go. I'm just saying it's
I could be wrong. I'm saying it's

1857
01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:09.720
equally undesirable. You can at least
just do like push ups forever and solitary.

1858
01:50:11.319 --> 01:50:14.039
All you do when you're in general
population is just trying not to get

1859
01:50:14.119 --> 01:50:16.560
murdered or any number of it.
If I was in solitary, I would

1860
01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:20.640
try to write a bunch of raps. Did you get pencil on paper in

1861
01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:24.039
there? No? But you know
you memorize them because you got the time.

1862
01:50:24.159 --> 01:50:30.359
Okay, this question got really grim. I've watched probably should have seen

1863
01:50:30.359 --> 01:50:34.319
that going. I've watched a lot
of prison documentaries and also OS and prison

1864
01:50:34.359 --> 01:50:38.479
seems terrible. Yeah, Solitary confinement
seems like, you know, like a

1865
01:50:38.520 --> 01:50:43.680
place where you wouldn't automatically get hepatitis
worse or worse. I don't know.

1866
01:50:43.720 --> 01:50:45.359
Maybe you know. Again, I've
never been to prison, but oh,

1867
01:50:45.399 --> 01:50:47.800
but there's nights where you can't sleep
and stuff, and there's you can't go

1868
01:50:47.800 --> 01:50:51.600
anywhere or do anything. Like holy, I can't imagine much worse than being

1869
01:50:51.640 --> 01:50:54.560
in the hole or whatever. Yeah, it depends on how long you're in

1870
01:50:54.600 --> 01:50:58.439
there. Yeah you know. Yeah, just get a baseball and bounce against

1871
01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:00.199
the wall like Steve McQueen in The
Great Escape. Yeah, you'd be fine,

1872
01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:03.920
pretty cool to six months with my
eyes closed. I gotta escape prison.

1873
01:51:04.279 --> 01:51:08.159
I've thought about this thought. I
bet you anything I could escape prison.

1874
01:51:08.760 --> 01:51:11.880
I would find a way, not
through, not through like physical skill,

1875
01:51:11.880 --> 01:51:14.119
like I couldn't climb a thing,
get over barbed wire fence. I'd

1876
01:51:14.119 --> 01:51:16.520
be bad at that. But I'd
have some crafty way. You'd like some

1877
01:51:16.640 --> 01:51:19.640
sort of talking and some like fucking
metal year stuff or something. Yeah,

1878
01:51:19.720 --> 01:51:26.279
but or somewhere fall in your stomach
through event Yep. I think it'd be

1879
01:51:26.439 --> 01:51:29.399
craftier than that. I think it
would involve more talking, maybe wheeling and

1880
01:51:29.439 --> 01:51:30.760
dealing, maybe getting some finding a
way to get some suits or hiding and

1881
01:51:30.800 --> 01:51:33.800
laundry baskets or something you think you
can like social engineer your way out of

1882
01:51:33.800 --> 01:51:38.319
prison somehow. If I got into
life in prison tomorrow, I'd be out

1883
01:51:38.560 --> 01:51:42.039
by twenty sixteen. It's a bold
claim. I could do it. We're

1884
01:51:42.039 --> 01:51:44.600
gonna have to put it to the
test. Sounds like premium content that does

1885
01:51:44.840 --> 01:51:48.640
see you in a year, all
right, I hope? Huh what a

1886
01:51:48.680 --> 01:51:55.319
weird question. How about Jeff and
his color blindness? Hi? You up

1887
01:51:55.319 --> 01:52:00.199
for that? Sure? This comes
from Jim Patadiso, who said we could

1888
01:52:00.199 --> 01:52:03.520
read his name all right, and
since he is named Jim Patadiso, I

1889
01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:08.640
had to read it. Okay,
It's from Maryatta Georgia. Uh, he

1890
01:52:08.720 --> 01:52:11.880
says, hold bomb crew. Jeff
talks a lot about being color blind,

1891
01:52:11.920 --> 01:52:15.680
and it reminded me of an episode
of w NYC's Radio Lab podcast called Colors

1892
01:52:15.439 --> 01:52:18.840
and at the host interview of scientist
who has discovered a way to inject red

1893
01:52:18.920 --> 01:52:24.520
cones into a color blind ape's eyes
and granted the ability of normal color vision.

1894
01:52:24.600 --> 01:52:28.359
YEA, The FDA hasn't signed off
on the technique on humans just yet,

1895
01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:30.199
but it begs the question of whether
Jeff would be inclined to have the

1896
01:52:30.239 --> 01:52:34.000
procedure. Does he feel that missing
color palettes in some way present prevents him

1897
01:52:34.520 --> 01:52:39.399
from fully enjoying games, movies,
life. In either case, I feel

1898
01:52:39.439 --> 01:52:43.960
he owes it to us as fans
to undergo radical untested eye surgery. I

1899
01:52:44.039 --> 01:52:45.479
love the site and show, so
apparently the problem with that is that it

1900
01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:51.880
is causing never ending eye pain.
That problem, so wait, have they

1901
01:52:53.039 --> 01:52:56.279
have they moved on to human trials. I don't know why they may have,

1902
01:52:57.079 --> 01:53:02.760
but they called that off at some
point because it was it had it

1903
01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:09.319
had problems. That sounds like some
side effects, some undesired outcomes with that

1904
01:53:09.399 --> 01:53:14.000
stuff. So yeah, so they
they've got it backed away from that.

1905
01:53:14.279 --> 01:53:17.439
There's some companies out there, different
companies making different types of glasses and chromas,

1906
01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:19.800
one locally that's been getting a lot
of attention. You get one of

1907
01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:26.079
those I did. Yeah, and
the thing that I didn't necessarily like realize

1908
01:53:26.199 --> 01:53:29.600
their sunglasses and they say, hey, wear these outside, don't wear them

1909
01:53:29.600 --> 01:53:32.720
inside because they're not tuned for indoor
lighting. Don't you kind of care less

1910
01:53:32.720 --> 01:53:38.039
outside what color things are absolute with, you know, outside of very specific

1911
01:53:38.039 --> 01:53:41.680
context like traffic lights and stuff.
Yeah, and that's they look plenty of

1912
01:53:41.680 --> 01:53:45.479
red to me. Yes, but
yeah, that's the thing that the but

1913
01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:47.239
I spent some time wearing them,
and it was actually kind of interesting,

1914
01:53:47.279 --> 01:53:49.880
and it got me thinking about color
in a way that I hadn't for years.

1915
01:53:50.119 --> 01:53:53.920
The thing that happens is, you
know, you get to a point

1916
01:53:53.920 --> 01:53:58.399
where you have spent so much time
like being told that like you are you

1917
01:53:58.479 --> 01:54:00.479
fucked up, like your color you
this is not the color you say,

1918
01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:04.199
it is that eventually you just don't
you stop trusting anything about color when it

1919
01:54:04.239 --> 01:54:10.960
comes to yourself. So sounds kind
of debilitating, well it it. I

1920
01:54:10.960 --> 01:54:14.119
mean, it's just color like like
yes and no, you know, but

1921
01:54:14.399 --> 01:54:20.039
by not trusting it, it prevents
me from making mistakes elsewhere. And so

1922
01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:24.039
getting those glasses and it kind of
forced me to think about color in a

1923
01:54:24.039 --> 01:54:27.079
way that I hadn't in a very
long time. And and so now I

1924
01:54:27.119 --> 01:54:29.279
can kind of look at and go
like, Okay, what what's happening to

1925
01:54:29.319 --> 01:54:32.199
me is that I don't see red
particularly well, which is you know,

1926
01:54:32.239 --> 01:54:35.479
obviously that's that's the thing that you
know, people say when they you know,

1927
01:54:35.520 --> 01:54:38.960
it's like there are multiple types of
color blindness. That's the kind that

1928
01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:41.720
I knew I had, but it
was still hard to kind of put into

1929
01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:45.399
words. But like red is really
faint for me. So that's why cases

1930
01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:47.760
like blue and purple look really similar, because I just don't see the red

1931
01:54:48.239 --> 01:54:53.920
in the purple. So these glasses
are tuned in such a way that they

1932
01:54:53.920 --> 01:54:57.760
are designed to kind of bring out
the red in things or or enhance red

1933
01:54:58.119 --> 01:55:01.159
r So things like oh wait,
this sweatshirt I have is totally purple.

1934
01:55:01.199 --> 01:55:04.960
That's fucking insane, and I could
see that, and it's something that I

1935
01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:09.359
don't wear them anymore. But because
of the time I did spend wearing them

1936
01:55:09.399 --> 01:55:13.159
and thinking about it, I can
now I think about color a little bit

1937
01:55:13.159 --> 01:55:15.760
more, or can and kind of
know what the deficiency is, so I

1938
01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:20.399
can kind of solve for that in
some cases. Interesting, it doesn't necessarily

1939
01:55:20.399 --> 01:55:24.680
help in games and stuff like that, because you'd have been some situations where

1940
01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:26.479
I don't even know that it's red
or not. I have to look at

1941
01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:29.680
a color wheel, I guess.
But like the green and yellow in Puzzle

1942
01:55:29.720 --> 01:55:32.920
Fighter look very similar to me,
which is nice because you can just line

1943
01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:36.680
up weird combos of green and yellow
and eventually they'll line up in such a

1944
01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:41.039
way that creates a weird chain reaction
and you win. It's a it's a

1945
01:55:41.159 --> 01:55:45.159
very kama kaze technique to have.
Sure, but yeah, I don't know.

1946
01:55:45.239 --> 01:55:48.399
It's uh, yes, if if
they had something that was like clinically

1947
01:55:48.520 --> 01:55:55.880
proven to be like at the very
least safe and not damaging and not you

1948
01:55:55.920 --> 01:55:59.439
know, forever painful, I would
I would probably let them shoot shit in

1949
01:55:59.479 --> 01:56:01.399
my eyes, even if it didn't
have a one hundred percent success rate.

1950
01:56:01.479 --> 01:56:03.880
Yeah, yeah, as long as
it wouldn't make things worse. Sure,

1951
01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:08.680
you know, sure, why not
go for it. But at the same

1952
01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:12.600
time, not something you sit around
stewing about every day from the sound of

1953
01:56:12.600 --> 01:56:14.600
it. Now, like I have
those glasses, I'm not sure where they

1954
01:56:14.600 --> 01:56:16.000
are somewhere there, so they're working
on like a next phase of those that

1955
01:56:16.039 --> 01:56:19.520
are more tuned for computer monitors and
indoor use and stuff like that. So

1956
01:56:19.560 --> 01:56:25.359
then it's like, well maybe I
don't know. So it's an interesting We're

1957
01:56:25.479 --> 01:56:27.640
very expensive, and I don't know
if I would spend that much money all

1958
01:56:27.640 --> 01:56:33.800
the way all over again just to
get indoor ones. Sure, but all

1959
01:56:33.880 --> 01:56:43.039
right then Jack as quite a question
and some trivia. He's from Brooklyn.

1960
01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:47.359
I feel like games press, like
hip hop or wrestling, seems to be

1961
01:56:47.399 --> 01:56:50.640
a young man's game. It kind
of bothers me when I think about my

1962
01:56:50.680 --> 01:56:55.319
favorite rappers now in their forties and
fifties still spitting the same stuff they were

1963
01:56:55.359 --> 01:56:58.640
in their twenties and thirties. So
I was wondering if you guys, as

1964
01:56:58.680 --> 01:57:01.119
veterans in the industry ever want to
worry about being out of touch? Have

1965
01:57:01.479 --> 01:57:04.119
any of you thought about retirement?
And if so, what does it look

1966
01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:09.279
like? Do you even accept the
premise? I could also read the trivia

1967
01:57:09.359 --> 01:57:13.039
now if you'd like, go for
it. On an unrelated note, I

1968
01:57:13.079 --> 01:57:16.119
have trivia you guys might like.
The guy who plays the Japanese voice of

1969
01:57:16.119 --> 01:57:19.960
Solid Snake Slash Big Boss does a
lot of Nick Cage dubs for Nick Cage

1970
01:57:20.000 --> 01:57:25.600
movies. Awesome. That's a Akio
Oska that I believe he's talking about the

1971
01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:30.760
Solid Snake voice actor. But yeah, I was kind of starting to think

1972
01:57:30.760 --> 01:57:33.840
about that stuff some more walking around
packs, I feel like the bigger that,

1973
01:57:33.960 --> 01:57:38.920
like, the more evident it is
that things like twitch streaming are huge

1974
01:57:38.920 --> 01:57:43.479
at things like packs more. Yeah, kind of I don't want to say

1975
01:57:43.479 --> 01:57:46.560
alienated, but maybe out of place. I feel, you know, to

1976
01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:49.920
a certain extent, people that are
into those communities like don't really know or

1977
01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:55.479
care who we are. Yeah,
I think that that's fine. Yeah,

1978
01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:59.920
it's yeah. I think it's you
know, like you could eventually argue that,

1979
01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:01.520
like, you know, the people
that would like we may get to

1980
01:58:01.600 --> 01:58:06.239
a point where we are not attracting
new people because they're just into Twitch and

1981
01:58:06.239 --> 01:58:11.520
they're into YouTube or whatever, but
just want to consume everything through channels different

1982
01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:16.279
uh different. Hell. I mean
it seems like largely like an age bracket

1983
01:58:16.279 --> 01:58:20.079
thing to me. I think it's
largely the games themselves too. Yeah,

1984
01:58:20.079 --> 01:58:24.920
I mean, like the you know, the notion of people just playing one

1985
01:58:24.920 --> 01:58:27.880
game. I was gonna say those
communities tend to be pretty esports heavy,

1986
01:58:28.119 --> 01:58:32.159
yeah, or you know, people
just play League or whatever Minecraft. Yeah.

1987
01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:35.399
Yeah, so you know, yeah, I mean we're kind of generalists

1988
01:58:35.479 --> 01:58:42.079
in a sense. So if games
continue to become more and more specialized like

1989
01:58:42.119 --> 01:58:45.920
that, and you know, people
want you know, like like we were

1990
01:58:45.960 --> 01:58:47.399
saying not that long ago, it's
like, we don't really have anything to

1991
01:58:47.399 --> 01:58:51.680
add to the League of Legends conversation, yes online, unless it's like a

1992
01:58:53.239 --> 01:58:55.760
primer of like, hey, we're
trying to get into this thing. Maybe

1993
01:58:55.760 --> 01:58:58.479
you could watch and maybe that would
be funny. Maybe some people who are

1994
01:58:58.560 --> 01:59:00.720
also not into league would learn some
thing along the way, but the people

1995
01:59:00.720 --> 01:59:05.079
that are already into league have a
place to get that information. Absolutely to

1996
01:59:05.119 --> 01:59:09.000
be a waste of everyone's time from
us too, you know, even for

1997
01:59:09.079 --> 01:59:12.119
my part as somebody who was weighed
the data and plays it in some degree

1998
01:59:12.119 --> 01:59:15.479
of competence. Like even then,
I there's nothing I can offer from like

1999
01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:19.039
a high level like analytical perspective.
Yeah that isn't a hundred times better somewhere

2000
01:59:19.039 --> 01:59:21.640
else, you know, Like I've
got nothing to offer the hardcore Dota player.

2001
01:59:21.840 --> 01:59:26.439
Yeah, yeah, so yeah,
So, I mean, like those

2002
01:59:26.520 --> 01:59:29.760
changes are interesting to watch. I
don't think it's necessarily the sort of thing

2003
01:59:29.800 --> 01:59:31.319
that will put us out of business
or anything like that, at least not

2004
01:59:31.319 --> 01:59:35.079
anytime soon. But in terms of
us and age and all that sort of

2005
01:59:35.119 --> 01:59:40.359
stuff, I don't know, Like
I'll let you know when we get there.

2006
01:59:40.479 --> 01:59:45.479
Yeah, yeah, we'll see.
I don't think there's anything about age,

2007
01:59:44.479 --> 01:59:51.680
yeah, prevents you from keeping up
with exactly and accepting new kinds of

2008
01:59:51.720 --> 01:59:56.680
games and understanding. Yeah, that's
that's fair. The big thing for me

2009
01:59:56.760 --> 02:00:00.199
is that I've always felt like we're
not we're not too much younger than kind

2010
02:00:00.199 --> 02:00:02.159
of the oldest people that grew up
playing video games, right, Yeah,

2011
02:00:02.239 --> 02:00:08.079
yeah, Jeff, you're practically right
there starting in the late seventies. So

2012
02:00:08.119 --> 02:00:10.960
we just kind of haven't gotten the
point yet where people who are lifelong video

2013
02:00:10.960 --> 02:00:14.279
game players become like elderly. You
know, It's like it just looks that

2014
02:00:14.319 --> 02:00:16.039
way because no one is right,
right, Like, none of the people

2015
02:00:16.039 --> 02:00:19.560
who are elderly at the moment came
to video games at all or you know,

2016
02:00:19.640 --> 02:00:23.720
late in life at best. So
it's just like it's kind of an

2017
02:00:23.800 --> 02:00:27.720
unanswered question right now. Yeah,
like what like what placed video games have

2018
02:00:27.760 --> 02:00:31.000
in the average person's life as they
you know, reach their twilight years.

2019
02:00:31.039 --> 02:00:35.279
I guess sure is where we're going
with this. I think it's why you

2020
02:00:35.319 --> 02:00:39.079
see now you see more people talking
about, you know, the notions of

2021
02:00:39.159 --> 02:00:42.479
just like how do I continue to
play video games now that I have children?

2022
02:00:42.640 --> 02:00:45.159
Right because these are problems that you
know, previous generations haven't necessarily had

2023
02:00:45.159 --> 02:00:48.640
to try to figure out. And
then you get a lot of you know,

2024
02:00:49.520 --> 02:00:53.560
a lot of the features being introduced
cater more to that specific kind of

2025
02:00:53.560 --> 02:00:57.760
lifestyle. You know, it's like
steam streaming is good for people who need

2026
02:00:57.880 --> 02:01:00.880
flexibility and where and when they can
play a game because there's other people in

2027
02:01:00.880 --> 02:01:02.800
the house, or they've got other
responsibilities to deal with, you know,

2028
02:01:03.119 --> 02:01:06.800
just overall length of games, you
know, I think that yeah, yeah,

2029
02:01:06.840 --> 02:01:10.720
that's a good one. Shorter games
have become more acceptable as time has

2030
02:01:10.760 --> 02:01:13.800
gone on. The you know,
even the suspended rezoom stuff is a is

2031
02:01:13.800 --> 02:01:16.199
a huge time saver. Yeah,
I think it'll be really interesting to see

2032
02:01:16.239 --> 02:01:21.199
like that that group of people that
are now on the older end of game

2033
02:01:21.640 --> 02:01:29.119
playing are number one a large portion
and getting larger as time goes on,

2034
02:01:29.239 --> 02:01:33.880
and to have spending power because they
all have very established jobs. So I

2035
02:01:33.920 --> 02:01:40.479
think you will only see more games
being targeted toward that specific demographs and what

2036
02:01:40.520 --> 02:01:43.439
that looks like is is going to
be interesting. I think, yeah,

2037
02:01:43.479 --> 02:01:45.960
that that being the trend. You
know, at some point you have more

2038
02:01:45.960 --> 02:01:49.119
money than time, when the opposite
was true growing up. Yeah, almost

2039
02:01:49.119 --> 02:01:56.039
with that question, because being old
means you got to do stuff, you

2040
02:01:56.119 --> 02:01:59.359
know, unless your dance. Let's
see what all this stuff is, all

2041
02:01:59.359 --> 02:02:00.960
these adult stuff about it, I'm
still there the same shit I was doing

2042
02:02:01.039 --> 02:02:03.760
I was twelve. Yeah, Ever, now I also have money, so

2043
02:02:03.800 --> 02:02:09.760
it's great. Uh, here we
go with J. C. From London,

2044
02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:15.880
who says he hoo bomba de rios. I guess that works. Sure

2045
02:02:16.760 --> 02:02:21.319
he's writing in about a death in
the family. Cool. She's slowly leaving

2046
02:02:21.359 --> 02:02:26.319
me, a grand old dame that
works tirelessly over the years. When I

2047
02:02:26.359 --> 02:02:30.199
first got her, she was backwards
compatible, had Linux on a lovely finish.

2048
02:02:30.520 --> 02:02:32.479
Now she's dusty, no lenox and
barely runs. She stutters into life

2049
02:02:32.479 --> 02:02:36.960
after multiple startup attempts me praying she'll
awaken from her slumber, defying death just

2050
02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:41.239
one last time, like that common
song about hip hop and you're like,

2051
02:02:41.840 --> 02:02:46.159
he's rapping about a woman. Oh
wait, it's got a message. She

2052
02:02:46.199 --> 02:02:48.920
won't play the latest games. The
Last of Us is a no go Saints

2053
02:02:48.920 --> 02:02:51.920
for a four as a joke,
but she's still faithful for my final Fantasy

2054
02:02:51.960 --> 02:02:57.199
ten remake playthrough. Soon she will
leave me forever, but I won't ever

2055
02:02:57.239 --> 02:03:00.439
forget my Fat Launch PS three.
Why I want your Fat Launch pay PS

2056
02:03:00.479 --> 02:03:03.560
three play Last of Us? Yeah? That ones didn't That didn't make a

2057
02:03:03.560 --> 02:03:06.079
lot of sense to me. I'm
just here to read the emails though.

2058
02:03:06.119 --> 02:03:09.920
Okay, so my question is this, what is the console or piece of

2059
02:03:09.920 --> 02:03:13.760
tech that you were the saddest about
losing, losing as far as it like

2060
02:03:13.760 --> 02:03:15.119
stopped working. I guess. So, yeah, that's what he's referring to

2061
02:03:15.199 --> 02:03:19.319
here, Like I don't. I
only felt annoyance when old consoles died because

2062
02:03:19.359 --> 02:03:21.600
then I just had to go buy
another one. I went through nine three

2063
02:03:21.680 --> 02:03:26.159
sixties. Jesus, I still have
one of those people. Yeah, I

2064
02:03:26.279 --> 02:03:29.640
still have my sixty gigabyte launched PS
three. I have for like seven three

2065
02:03:29.680 --> 02:03:31.760
sixties and they all work. Really, I've had one go bad through Friendly

2066
02:03:31.880 --> 02:03:34.439
Night. As soon as I got
the Slim. The Slim never wroke down

2067
02:03:34.439 --> 02:03:39.079
on me. But I went through
nine the first one, the first black,

2068
02:03:39.159 --> 02:03:43.399
first full redesign. Yeah, the
one that not the E not the

2069
02:03:43.399 --> 02:03:47.159
one that came put out along the
black smaller with the new casing outside,

2070
02:03:47.159 --> 02:03:49.760
because because they went through multiple revisions
where it was like, oh, we

2071
02:03:49.840 --> 02:03:51.760
think we fixed it, and they
kept up. No, it was the

2072
02:03:53.000 --> 02:03:56.039
black Slim one, the one that
of the one E three they told everyone

2073
02:03:56.119 --> 02:03:58.119
like, if you're at this press
conference, you get a free one or

2074
02:03:58.119 --> 02:04:00.239
whatever. One uh that has ever
failed me. Yeah, I've still got

2075
02:04:00.279 --> 02:04:03.159
one of those, and it's fine. Yeah, but nine originals, that's

2076
02:04:03.159 --> 02:04:05.720
a lot Yeah, that sounds like
a real pain in the ass. Yep,

2077
02:04:06.960 --> 02:04:10.840
I thought I was doing bad being
on my fourth PlayStation one. By

2078
02:04:10.880 --> 02:04:14.840
the end of that generation one through
two of those, my launch ps one

2079
02:04:14.880 --> 02:04:18.159
still works really dude. Within like
two to three months of buying that fucking

2080
02:04:18.159 --> 02:04:21.039
thing, I was having to like
turn it upside down or prop the disc

2081
02:04:21.119 --> 02:04:25.920
lid open or whatever. Like rented
Resident Evil and just sat there watching loading

2082
02:04:25.960 --> 02:04:29.720
screens as the doors failed to open. You know what our tanks are sixty

2083
02:04:29.760 --> 02:04:31.920
four and Super Nintendo those things.
Oh yeah, you know cartridge based.

2084
02:04:32.039 --> 02:04:35.399
Yeah, you know, there's no
fans even like any s. It's kind

2085
02:04:35.399 --> 02:04:39.039
of hard getting any stuff to work. Yeah, that's fair. You know.

2086
02:04:40.239 --> 02:04:43.720
You know that's usually mostly just cleaning
contacts and stuff, right yeah,

2087
02:04:43.920 --> 02:04:46.680
or you know the springs or whatever
that seat the cartridges get all fucking weird

2088
02:04:46.720 --> 02:04:51.960
because that thing was just built crazy. Yes, ran into ran into Chris

2089
02:04:53.039 --> 02:04:56.279
Cohle or like three times at packs. Yeah, as he was doing a

2090
02:04:56.279 --> 02:04:59.159
bunch of old game hunting, like
every time I saw him later in the

2091
02:04:59.159 --> 02:05:02.720
afternoon, his bag supposed heavier yea
with games. Talking to him about some

2092
02:05:02.760 --> 02:05:04.319
of that old stuff. But yeah, you know he's he was saying,

2093
02:05:04.359 --> 02:05:08.520
like, yeah, rom cartridges basically
kind of go forever. Yeah, as

2094
02:05:08.520 --> 02:05:12.159
long as there's not a battery involved, trying to keep saved data going and

2095
02:05:12.159 --> 02:05:16.680
stuff. Yeah, I don't know
how. Yeah, that's started started in

2096
02:05:16.800 --> 02:05:25.119
on my watch slash occasionally play of
Final Fantasy ten two. Nice last night.

2097
02:05:25.239 --> 02:05:29.039
Finally, how did you feel about
the ending? I was out of

2098
02:05:29.079 --> 02:05:33.439
town, so I didn't get to
see the man. It was a long

2099
02:05:33.439 --> 02:05:35.600
time coming, wasn't it. Yeah, like it was a couple of months

2100
02:05:35.680 --> 02:05:40.439
or something. Yeah, you're playing
stuff like, yeah, it's still getting

2101
02:05:40.479 --> 02:05:43.920
wrong. It was that game.
Is Fantasy ten looks like a like a

2102
02:05:44.359 --> 02:05:48.680
jittery fucking mess. Yeah, Like
just the combat, like their active time

2103
02:05:48.680 --> 02:05:54.399
battle stuff of just like watching those
battles unfold compared to the standard kind of

2104
02:05:54.479 --> 02:06:00.439
ordered combat of ten. Like ten
two just looks like a fucking rainbow addition,

2105
02:06:00.600 --> 02:06:03.199
Final Fantasy ten like some weird,
hacked fucking thing, whereas like everyone's

2106
02:06:03.199 --> 02:06:09.359
fighting all the time. I don't
know that's that game. Dress Fears Fears.

2107
02:06:09.600 --> 02:06:12.119
I think that was the one,
right, yep that had those dress

2108
02:06:12.199 --> 02:06:17.279
fears garment grids, garment grid dress
that's right, Fears dress spears Oh,

2109
02:06:18.319 --> 02:06:21.800
it's like a sphere with dress in
there, like break it over your head

2110
02:06:21.840 --> 02:06:25.680
or something, and then you're wearing
the new dress. I think that game

2111
02:06:25.720 --> 02:06:28.800
seems really dumb. That's probably how
that works. Like I had a pretty

2112
02:06:28.840 --> 02:06:32.760
low opinion of it just from like
absorbing little bits of it through watching people

2113
02:06:32.760 --> 02:06:35.319
play it when it was new.
Yes, But now that I'm attempting to

2114
02:06:35.319 --> 02:06:40.920
pay attention to the systems and learn
it for myself. Boy, yeah,

2115
02:06:40.960 --> 02:06:45.319
wow, like even by the standards
set by Final Fantasy ten. H really

2116
02:06:45.520 --> 02:06:49.039
yeah, man, I was reminded
of how when was it was it?

2117
02:06:49.039 --> 02:06:53.319
Maybe it was when we did the
quick look of the original PS three remake

2118
02:06:53.439 --> 02:06:57.960
last year that the crazy pop star
stuff doesn't actually go on that long?

2119
02:06:58.359 --> 02:07:00.119
Right, Yeah? How far in
is she? Like past that? First?

2120
02:07:00.520 --> 02:07:02.600
We start from the start, so
it's like we've played like the first

2121
02:07:02.600 --> 02:07:05.199
hour. I think that stuff actually
does fall off pretty quick. It's not

2122
02:07:05.239 --> 02:07:08.800
the whole game, but yeah,
it's the intro cut scene and then you're

2123
02:07:08.840 --> 02:07:12.319
like, we're treasure hunters, we're
hunting for treasure spears, we're their goal

2124
02:07:12.399 --> 02:07:15.119
wings. We're out there doing stuff, and Lulu's pregnant now, and you're

2125
02:07:15.119 --> 02:07:18.880
just like fucking fuck all this shit
starting to enjoy these weekly updates, it's

2126
02:07:18.880 --> 02:07:21.640
still dumb, Like, yeah,
it's not like a weird pop star thing.

2127
02:07:21.960 --> 02:07:27.319
Still stupid. Yeah, Well,
the tone was definitely lighthearted and it

2128
02:07:27.319 --> 02:07:30.960
gets a really fan surfacing yeah later
on or right at the beginning, it

2129
02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:33.039
just seems out of the gate like
a I mean, the pop star stuff.

2130
02:07:33.039 --> 02:07:38.520
Whether it holds through or not,
it's just super creepy fan service.

2131
02:07:38.560 --> 02:07:42.760
And then from there it's just like, I don't know, here are these

2132
02:07:42.760 --> 02:07:45.560
two girls from this game, and
then one new one because why not sure,

2133
02:07:45.319 --> 02:07:48.640
and they're going to run around and
run through these locations that you may

2134
02:07:48.720 --> 02:07:53.640
be familiar with, but now everything
is slightly different, down thrilled and unthrilled

2135
02:07:53.640 --> 02:07:58.319
for you. It seems like a
bad fucking game. Uh, Joe and

2136
02:07:58.399 --> 02:08:01.520
Delaware sending something that I thought interesting. I don't know if anybody else will,

2137
02:08:01.920 --> 02:08:05.880
but here we go, he says, Hi Brad. A few weeks

2138
02:08:05.880 --> 02:08:09.520
back, you guys were talking about
Jonathan blows the Witness and what its name

2139
02:08:09.600 --> 02:08:11.840
might mean. Well, I thought
you might appreciate a little knowledge bomb from

2140
02:08:11.880 --> 02:08:16.600
a real life professor of computer science. Disclaimer, I have no idea if

2141
02:08:16.600 --> 02:08:22.159
this is what Jonathan Blow is actually
thinking regarding the title. In computer science,

2142
02:08:22.159 --> 02:08:24.680
we have problems that we call MP
complete, basically problems that we don't

2143
02:08:24.680 --> 02:08:28.600
really know how to solve efficiently with
real world computers yet, but that humans

2144
02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:33.760
are sometimes able to solve efficiently by
achieving some insight. Lots of games and

2145
02:08:33.800 --> 02:08:37.079
puzzles can be shown to be MP
complete, which is probably why we find

2146
02:08:37.079 --> 02:08:41.119
them interesting. Sudoku, for instance, can be proven to be MP complete.

2147
02:08:41.880 --> 02:08:46.439
A characteristic of MP complete problems is
that you can solve them by repeatedly

2148
02:08:46.479 --> 02:08:48.920
guessing an answer and then checking whether
that answer is right or not. There

2149
02:08:48.960 --> 02:08:52.359
might be billions of possible guesses,
but it's really easy to check whether any

2150
02:08:52.359 --> 02:08:56.640
particular guess is correct. If you're
solving an MP complete problem by guess and

2151
02:08:56.720 --> 02:09:00.239
check, and you happen to guess
the right answer the first time. I'm

2152
02:09:00.279 --> 02:09:03.760
that guess is called the witness or
the certificate or the proof. Like I

2153
02:09:03.800 --> 02:09:07.359
said, I have no idea if
that's what Blows referring to, but considering

2154
02:09:07.399 --> 02:09:09.520
it's a puzzle game, it makes
a lot of sense to me. M

2155
02:09:09.840 --> 02:09:13.119
I thought that was cool, Yeah, because all those puzzles in that game

2156
02:09:13.159 --> 02:09:16.920
do take place on computers. That
thing does seem kind of mysterious. Yeah,

2157
02:09:18.039 --> 02:09:22.039
and I'm curious about any insight into
what it is at this point because

2158
02:09:22.079 --> 02:09:24.439
it's been a while. Yeah,
it has, and I think it's coming

2159
02:09:24.439 --> 02:09:30.239
out soon. I hope anybody the
witness Dan, I'm looking forward to it.

2160
02:09:30.359 --> 02:09:33.359
Okay, I love Braid. Braid
was a good game. I want

2161
02:09:33.359 --> 02:09:35.239
to see what that thing is,
Oh yeah, totally well, or what

2162
02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:39.720
else it is? Yes, that's
that's the real question. When he's going

2163
02:09:39.760 --> 02:09:41.000
around saying like, yeah, it'll
take you forty hours to do all the

2164
02:09:41.000 --> 02:09:45.600
puzzles and stuff, It's like,
is that just forty hours of more of

2165
02:09:45.640 --> 02:09:48.720
what you've shown, like walking up
two puzzles? Like like is that like

2166
02:09:48.840 --> 02:09:54.399
playing on endgame computer screens and like
a little abstract like spatial puzzles or something

2167
02:09:54.479 --> 02:10:01.000
like what does that mean? It
could mean a lot of things. Adam

2168
02:10:01.159 --> 02:10:09.119
Wrights in with a thought experiment of
sorts in regard to Drew's secretly hoping for

2169
02:10:09.159 --> 02:10:13.239
Sonic to be good, to comment, I have a quick and simple exercise

2170
02:10:13.279 --> 02:10:16.319
that can be performed to set people
straight on waiting for a good Sonic.

2171
02:10:18.039 --> 02:10:20.920
Step one, play ten minutes of
Super Mario World, Super Metroid or Legend

2172
02:10:20.960 --> 02:10:24.560
of Zelda A link to the past. Step two. After the ten minutes,

2173
02:10:24.600 --> 02:10:28.720
ask yourself the following questions, how
did I feel about the game?

2174
02:10:28.039 --> 02:10:33.600
How did the game control? Would
I continue playing this right now? Step

2175
02:10:33.680 --> 02:10:37.600
three? Play ten minutes of Sonic
the Hedgehog two, probably the most common

2176
02:10:37.640 --> 02:10:41.840
source of nostalgia. Step four,
After the ten minutes, ask yourself the

2177
02:10:41.840 --> 02:10:43.079
following questions, how did I feel
about the game? How did the game

2178
02:10:43.079 --> 02:10:48.079
control? Would I continue playing this
right now? Since your answers to step

2179
02:10:48.119 --> 02:10:50.840
four are shitty, shit, and
shit, no, you now understand why

2180
02:10:50.840 --> 02:10:54.600
there probably won't be a good future
Sonic game because there was not a good

2181
02:10:54.600 --> 02:10:58.560
Sonic game to begin with. Try
this on your favorite childhood titles and ruin

2182
02:10:58.600 --> 02:11:03.720
your afternoon m inaccurate. Yeah,
Also, I don't like your tones,

2183
02:11:03.800 --> 02:11:09.560
sir. Yeah, all right,
Well he's got I've got contact information at

2184
02:11:09.560 --> 02:11:11.640
his company and everything, so if
you want to get in touch, I'll

2185
02:11:11.720 --> 02:11:16.039
let you do that. Email's confidential. Get ahold of this person's supervisor.

2186
02:11:16.439 --> 02:11:18.479
Yeah, I have the reason I
included this was I was it suddenly made

2187
02:11:18.479 --> 02:11:22.359
me second guess myself like Sonic two
not a good game? Yeah? Man,

2188
02:11:22.399 --> 02:11:24.840
I go back and play those games
often, Like I remember not hating

2189
02:11:24.840 --> 02:11:28.159
Sonic two, Sonic two is very
good. I have gone back to the

2190
02:11:28.199 --> 02:11:33.680
early Sonic games and find them to
be immediately boring. Son Sonic One's kind

2191
02:11:33.680 --> 02:11:35.720
of rough. Yeah, three and
Sonic Nickels are both good too. But

2192
02:11:35.760 --> 02:11:39.439
I think I see what this guy
is saying, is that like they don't

2193
02:11:39.479 --> 02:11:41.239
hold up. Well, it's it's
what's past that ten minutes like you get

2194
02:11:41.960 --> 02:11:45.680
all the levels are kind of the
same, whereas with like Super Metroid or

2195
02:11:45.720 --> 02:11:46.520
Linked to the past, there's always
thought, oh, I wonder where this

2196
02:11:46.560 --> 02:11:50.399
is gonna go, or wonder what
this next dungeon or item is gonna be.

2197
02:11:50.399 --> 02:11:54.439
Like where Sonic it's like I'm gonna
through this thing's my rings, I

2198
02:11:54.640 --> 02:11:58.399
have to I got to go fast. I think those are poor comparisons,

2199
02:11:58.399 --> 02:12:03.279
those those last two. I think
Mario might be a good comparison, only

2200
02:12:03.319 --> 02:12:09.399
because it is a side scroll gen
you are jumping and killing enemies and which

2201
02:12:09.479 --> 02:12:11.760
I can't imagine any psychopath that would
say that Sonic two is better than Super

2202
02:12:11.800 --> 02:12:16.720
Mario World. No, but Mario
World it's the same genre. But I

2203
02:12:16.720 --> 02:12:20.039
think it mixes things up enough.
I think the items and Steph are more

2204
02:12:20.079 --> 02:12:22.239
interesting, the worlds and bosses are
so much better, and I just just

2205
02:12:22.279 --> 02:12:26.319
different. The point isn't necessarily that
you're like comparing him to these games.

2206
02:12:26.319 --> 02:12:28.239
It's more than just you know,
I think you can look at those three

2207
02:12:28.279 --> 02:12:31.039
games. Is like games that hold
up. Yeah, those games pass the

2208
02:12:31.039 --> 02:12:33.199
test that he laid out. Yeah, he's say does not. Yeah,

2209
02:12:33.399 --> 02:12:39.239
I bet it's still pretty good.
Whenever I play a Sonic game these days,

2210
02:12:39.359 --> 02:12:41.640
if I'm going back to the old
Sonic game, I usually will play

2211
02:12:41.720 --> 02:12:43.319
like the First World and then go
like, yeah, okay, I think

2212
02:12:43.359 --> 02:12:46.399
I'm good. Hill out of the
way. That's a good point. Mario

2213
02:12:46.479 --> 02:12:52.079
games have evolved. I would love
to see Sonic evolve into something more substantial

2214
02:12:52.159 --> 02:12:58.279
than those old games. That problem
is like, I just think that the

2215
02:12:58.279 --> 02:13:03.000
core concept, doesn't you know.
And I think that's they've been trying to.

2216
02:13:03.760 --> 02:13:05.319
I think they put things from those
early games. Yeah. I think

2217
02:13:05.399 --> 02:13:11.159
they put out something like just a
more upraised version of those old Sonic games.

2218
02:13:11.199 --> 02:13:16.920
Today it would not be satisfied.
Yeah, crap. It also just

2219
02:13:16.960 --> 02:13:22.960
felt like shit, anybody played Freedom
Planet. Yes, it's weird. I

2220
02:13:22.960 --> 02:13:24.600
mean, it's it's totally a new
Sonic game, but also I didn't want

2221
02:13:24.640 --> 02:13:28.920
to play much of it, so
I'd like to go play that. I

2222
02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:31.720
saw a bunch of bit of packs. Oh or they still thought there showing

2223
02:13:31.760 --> 02:13:33.039
it. Yeah, surprised. I
thought I thought it came out. It

2224
02:13:33.079 --> 02:13:37.119
did, but I think it was
like in the middle of some giant release,

2225
02:13:37.640 --> 02:13:39.479
so it kind of got buried.
Yeah, Packs is a weird one

2226
02:13:39.520 --> 02:13:41.960
because, Yeah, like lots of
games that have been out for several months,

2227
02:13:43.119 --> 02:13:46.600
we'll have booth displays. Specifically,
I think I'm thinking of like put

2228
02:13:46.640 --> 02:13:52.840
Sonic in something like a ri in
the Blind Forest or Metroid style world at

2229
02:13:52.840 --> 02:13:54.800
that point, aren't you're just like
shoehorning the character into another game? Though

2230
02:13:56.079 --> 02:14:01.039
it really I don't care that it's
Sonic, Like I I like, there

2231
02:14:01.079 --> 02:14:11.600
really isn't anything that in that style
of motion. Yeah, I just like

2232
02:14:11.720 --> 02:14:15.239
synetic energy stuff. I just wonder
IFECT does that core conceit of if this

2233
02:14:15.239 --> 02:14:16.680
guy's got to run really fast and
that's kind of all they've got, if

2234
02:14:16.720 --> 02:14:20.560
that really holds up in the day
and age, like, because I mean

2235
02:14:20.640 --> 02:14:22.960
that just came out of like,
well, Mario was huge. What can

2236
02:14:22.000 --> 02:14:24.880
we do to make us seem better
than them? Right, blast process,

2237
02:14:24.960 --> 02:14:31.279
we can make it go faster.
They didn't have a blast processor, and

2238
02:14:31.319 --> 02:14:35.600
then ten don't. It's true.
All those things are true. I finally

2239
02:14:35.600 --> 02:14:39.159
started reading that big Genesis book,
Oh, that big coffee table, Like,

2240
02:14:39.800 --> 02:14:41.840
yeah, is there is there a
lot of texts in there? Is

2241
02:14:41.840 --> 02:14:45.640
there much of them? Yeah,
there's there's a yeah I've heard the text

2242
02:14:45.680 --> 02:14:48.159
is not so great. Well,
it's it's there's some interesting stuff in there

2243
02:14:48.159 --> 02:14:52.479
where it's like Scott Bayliss basically takes
credit for coming up with the term blast

2244
02:14:52.520 --> 02:14:58.159
processing and apologizes just like, yeah, we're kind of blasting things it this

2245
02:14:58.199 --> 02:15:03.720
way and you know, and then
marketing ran with it. Man, So

2246
02:15:03.880 --> 02:15:09.840
that is a heavy burden to bear. Yeah, for all history, be

2247
02:15:09.920 --> 02:15:13.680
the person who made bless processing happen. Uh, event, I think it

2248
02:15:13.720 --> 02:15:16.039
can be done. Yeah, man, I don't know. I hold I

2249
02:15:16.119 --> 02:15:22.479
hope. Like I almost saw a
way that I could have not hated Sonic

2250
02:15:22.560 --> 02:15:26.479
four if the physics had been better. Yeah, it just felt like to

2251
02:15:26.600 --> 02:15:31.039
knuckles or three. Yeah, I
would love that have been okay, but

2252
02:15:31.039 --> 02:15:33.039
it would have No, I'm not
the first world have been like okay,

2253
02:15:33.039 --> 02:15:37.039
cool, they made they say they
nailed it. Congratulations. The first world

2254
02:15:37.039 --> 02:15:39.560
Sonic problem. Yeah, you need
some you need some hook You need some

2255
02:15:39.439 --> 02:15:46.119
and I hate this phrase RPG elements. You need some depth to it rather

2256
02:15:46.159 --> 02:15:50.199
than just run from one end of
the levels, Have multiple exits, have

2257
02:15:50.359 --> 02:15:54.279
like some overworld that you're doing,
have upgrades like something. Mario game has

2258
02:15:54.319 --> 02:15:58.960
never had any kind of RPG elements
like three D World or Galaxy or any

2259
02:15:58.159 --> 02:16:03.520
Mario game really has got a lot
more going for him though, a lot

2260
02:16:03.520 --> 02:16:05.199
more to do than just run really
fast. Yeah, I mean, you're

2261
02:16:05.239 --> 02:16:09.359
right, different stuff Like I actually
think like secret exits in Mario World is

2262
02:16:09.399 --> 02:16:13.199
probably the thing about that game that
I look at and go like, that's

2263
02:16:13.319 --> 02:16:16.720
I wish that they did more stuff
like that in that exact way. So

2264
02:16:16.880 --> 02:16:18.880
like if you brought that to a
Sonic game, that would be kind of

2265
02:16:18.880 --> 02:16:22.079
cool. Yeah, because then you
can have like you're, okay, you

2266
02:16:22.159 --> 02:16:24.960
got your easy path through the level. It's just fucking it's fast and whatever

2267
02:16:24.000 --> 02:16:28.119
you're doing whatever, but here's something
you kind of have to strive for or

2268
02:16:28.119 --> 02:16:33.760
at least find this alternate path or
something. M All right, then yeah,

2269
02:16:33.799 --> 02:16:43.040
there you have it. Uh,
last email, I'm gonna maybe put

2270
02:16:43.079 --> 02:16:46.879
this to Jeff. Anybody can chime
in if they want it comes from.

2271
02:16:46.879 --> 02:16:48.879
And if it comes in from Ian, who was a new Bomb Cast,

2272
02:16:48.879 --> 02:16:54.079
if you were slash listener, if
he's viewing this thing, then that's scary.

2273
02:16:54.079 --> 02:16:56.639
He figured it out. He's sitting
in this building across the streets.

2274
02:16:56.680 --> 02:16:58.719
All these cameras in here. You
don't never know when one of them might

2275
02:16:58.719 --> 02:17:01.680
be on. Shit, All right, it's the red light just means a

2276
02:17:01.799 --> 02:17:05.479
charging. Yeah, it's all good. So I heard about the Bomb Cast

2277
02:17:05.520 --> 02:17:09.799
from the Super Best Friend Cast,
since they occasionally talk about you. I

2278
02:17:09.799 --> 02:17:11.479
had never heard of Giant Bomb before, so I didn't know just how much

2279
02:17:11.479 --> 02:17:16.879
content you produce. Since I assume
you get new listeners all the time,

2280
02:17:16.920 --> 02:17:20.120
and since you must assume every podcast
is someone's first, I think you said

2281
02:17:20.120 --> 02:17:22.159
that. Sure, yeah, do
you think you could introduce some of the

2282
02:17:22.159 --> 02:17:26.959
content you put out on the site
to inform us new viewers? What's your

2283
02:17:28.479 --> 02:17:31.760
what's your thirty second pitch? There's
some videos on this website you should really

2284
02:17:31.760 --> 02:17:39.760
watch it. Well, there you
have it. Yeah, that's what you

2285
02:17:39.840 --> 02:17:43.680
got. Yeah, all right,
yeah, Like it doesn't come up that

2286
02:17:43.760 --> 02:17:46.120
often, but it comes up just
enough to be reminded of an unconsistent basis

2287
02:17:46.719 --> 02:17:52.159
that even though so, yeah,
there are there are people on the message

2288
02:17:52.159 --> 02:17:54.680
boards that that you know, talk
a lot about you know, what are

2289
02:17:54.680 --> 02:17:56.440
the what are the quintessential videos that
that people must see? That sort of

2290
02:17:56.479 --> 02:17:58.559
stuff. Yeah, maybe that's the
best good place for it. I feel

2291
02:17:58.559 --> 02:18:01.760
like I'm in a great position to
judge that. Yeah, well, like

2292
02:18:01.799 --> 02:18:03.440
I was gonna, I was gonna
say, you know, like me and

2293
02:18:03.479 --> 02:18:07.040
you have been doing this podcast for
close to seven years at this point,

2294
02:18:07.559 --> 02:18:09.319
it's kind of hard to remember that
some people are just now coming in right

2295
02:18:09.360 --> 02:18:15.120
first time. Yeah, yeah,
but there you have it. Uh huh,

2296
02:18:15.239 --> 02:18:18.319
go to the forums. That's your
official line. All right. Well,

2297
02:18:20.360 --> 02:18:22.559
on that note, I guess that's
gonna do it for emails a little

2298
02:18:22.520 --> 02:18:26.280
a little thin this week, but
you know, everybody's coming in from trade

2299
02:18:26.280 --> 02:18:31.040
shows, yep, getting back from
travel. Not not a lot of things

2300
02:18:31.040 --> 02:18:35.479
happening on the ground here. Yeah, I really want to I'm really curious

2301
02:18:35.479 --> 02:18:39.680
to see if I will like Hotline
in Miami too. Yeah. I Yeah,

2302
02:18:39.719 --> 02:18:43.200
it's getting good reviews. I saw
people seem to be pretty happy with

2303
02:18:43.360 --> 02:18:46.319
Yeah, Like, what what makes
you cautious? Like it's I feel like

2304
02:18:46.440 --> 02:18:50.920
I played enough Hotline in Miami one
to feel like I had gotten enough out

2305
02:18:50.959 --> 02:18:54.280
of it conceptually, yes, that
I can identify with, So like,

2306
02:18:54.360 --> 02:18:58.239
if it's more of that, I
don't know that that's enough. I think

2307
02:18:58.280 --> 02:19:03.000
I'm with you on that. Yeah, like just more levels in that style.

2308
02:19:03.200 --> 02:19:05.920
Yeah, that's not that's not going
to do it. Huh. Yeah.

2309
02:19:05.920 --> 02:19:09.360
And I haven't been following it closely
enough to know what specifics have changed,

2310
02:19:09.399 --> 02:19:11.079
you know, like, oh we
added this isn't this right? I

2311
02:19:11.079 --> 02:19:11.680
don't know what. Like you look
at it and go like, all right,

2312
02:19:11.760 --> 02:19:15.239
yeah, it looks like you know, yeah, there's some like dual

2313
02:19:15.280 --> 02:19:18.159
gun stuff like kind of shooting two
directions at once and that sort of thing.

2314
02:19:18.239 --> 02:19:22.399
But if they manage to tell like
a really interesting story, but if

2315
02:19:22.319 --> 02:19:24.360
everything else was kind of more of
the same. They're building this as the

2316
02:19:24.399 --> 02:19:30.040
explosive conclusion to the hotline Miami saga. Huh? Was it osaga? I

2317
02:19:30.040 --> 02:19:31.760
didn't finish the first Now, I
don't know. I didn't know how the

2318
02:19:33.440 --> 02:19:37.000
first game ends really weird, and
then when you go through all the steps

2319
02:19:37.040 --> 02:19:39.079
to see the real ending and all
that stuff, it's even weirder. Is

2320
02:19:39.120 --> 02:19:43.639
it what you would call a coherent
narrative? Because like I didn't play you

2321
02:19:43.639 --> 02:19:46.280
know, I played a few hours
of It's again that kind of explains itself

2322
02:19:46.280 --> 02:19:48.760
in retrospect, Like when you get
the ending, it's like they tell you

2323
02:19:48.760 --> 02:19:52.000
what's been really going on? The
whole game feels like kind of a bad

2324
02:19:52.040 --> 02:19:54.200
trip, you know, like it
feels like it's almost intentionally left sort of

2325
02:19:54.200 --> 02:19:58.520
obscure and hazy, right, like
what's going Like maybe when they spell it

2326
02:19:58.520 --> 02:20:01.959
out, it's like, Okay,
well I don't don't It's like maybe your

2327
02:20:01.040 --> 02:20:05.120
character is not a reliable narrator for
these events, like it was. The

2328
02:20:05.399 --> 02:20:09.399
revelation at the end wasn't super impactful
for me. So it was just,

2329
02:20:09.479 --> 02:20:13.319
you know, the story end of
it didn't really do it. It was

2330
02:20:13.319 --> 02:20:16.760
more just like it's some cool action, Yeah, some some interesting puzzles based

2331
02:20:16.760 --> 02:20:20.040
around these concepts, and yeah,
I don't know, I don't know.

2332
02:20:20.120 --> 02:20:24.520
I'm only for checking out. But
yeah, there's that, there's cities,

2333
02:20:24.600 --> 02:20:28.040
there's god what else. Yeah,
yeah, I worry up on the site

2334
02:20:28.079 --> 02:20:31.319
already. Yeah, so you can
check out some of this other stuff.

2335
02:20:31.680 --> 02:20:33.680
I don't do Homeworld And then how
are you guys like in Metal Gear Solid

2336
02:20:33.719 --> 02:20:39.280
three so far? I get yeah
really good? Yeah, I mean it's

2337
02:20:39.319 --> 02:20:43.399
definitely metal gear. I get frustrated, But do you find yourself getting frustrated

2338
02:20:43.440 --> 02:20:46.959
more than with the first two I
don't think so. I think I just

2339
02:20:46.040 --> 02:20:50.840
I knowed what to expect from metal
gear now, so this didn't feel like

2340
02:20:50.879 --> 02:20:54.639
a huge sideways You're just like what
the fuck? Like just because of the

2341
02:20:54.680 --> 02:20:58.479
way the environments are built and stuff. My memory time, I remember being

2342
02:20:58.120 --> 02:21:01.760
this is not metal here anymore.
I don't want any part of it feeling

2343
02:21:01.799 --> 02:21:05.680
like like like it's all a bunch
of outdoor like more naturalistic environments. There's

2344
02:21:05.719 --> 02:21:09.559
the crazy CAMO system. Yeah,
but they're still like see there's like all

2345
02:21:09.600 --> 02:21:13.079
the fucking maintenance you gotta do on
yourself, like still areas like healing your

2346
02:21:13.120 --> 02:21:16.799
wounds and mean, there's that.
It's kind of obnoxious, But CQUC seems

2347
02:21:16.799 --> 02:21:20.920
like a natural progression as far as
just a control see if you see,

2348
02:21:20.799 --> 02:21:24.639
Yeah, why because it sucked?
What sucks about it? It was bad?

2349
02:21:26.319 --> 02:21:28.639
You're gonna have to elaborate. I
didn't like it, the things you

2350
02:21:28.680 --> 02:21:31.600
can do or the way you do. I don't remember control. I don't

2351
02:21:31.600 --> 02:21:35.440
I remember the controls being like shitty. Yeah, I don't remember if it's

2352
02:21:35.639 --> 02:21:37.559
responsive like, you know, not
explaining itself super well. Yeah, I

2353
02:21:39.239 --> 02:21:41.680
mean I had to read some tutorials. Yeah, in the game. To

2354
02:21:41.840 --> 02:21:43.959
be fair, I haven't played it
since it came out, but I remember

2355
02:21:43.959 --> 02:21:48.239
it and I never played the reissue
they did, whether they did camera stuff

2356
02:21:48.280 --> 02:21:50.719
or something better. Is that what
you guys are on that? What is

2357
02:21:50.760 --> 02:21:52.399
that? Subsistence? Subsistence? Yeah, but that doesn't change like the cqu

2358
02:21:52.479 --> 02:21:54.719
SEE controls or whatever. That's just
the camera. I just I feel like

2359
02:21:54.760 --> 02:21:58.959
I remember the CQUC stuff not obeying
what I wanted it to do very well.

2360
02:21:58.079 --> 02:22:03.559
If you look at the Uh,
there's like four basic things you can

2361
02:22:03.600 --> 02:22:07.639
do, and it's not like crazy
button combinations. It's not like remembering a

2362
02:22:07.680 --> 02:22:11.319
combo. It's hold in circle hard
and you'll slip their throat. Hold it

2363
02:22:11.319 --> 02:22:16.479
in softly around yeahstivity, hold it
halfway and you can drag them around.

2364
02:22:18.040 --> 02:22:20.799
Uh. If you switch from circle
to square, you will hold your gun

2365
02:22:20.799 --> 02:22:24.360
out and you can you know,
hold one guy's a human shield and shoot.

2366
02:22:24.479 --> 02:22:28.360
To me, this is so much
more complicated than Monster Hunter BAH and

2367
02:22:28.360 --> 02:22:31.879
and way less intuitive. That's just
from a control perspective, though, I

2368
02:22:31.879 --> 02:22:35.280
mean the actual like systems for like
taking the bullets out and shit, they're

2369
02:22:35.319 --> 02:22:37.920
not hard. Oh no, no, no, I'm just saying controlling my

2370
02:22:39.079 --> 02:22:43.879
character and attacking. Yeah, I
wouldn't say that part is crazy about Monster

2371
02:22:43.959 --> 02:22:48.639
Hunter, but I don't here.
I don't think it's that crazy. Also,

2372
02:22:48.680 --> 02:22:52.000
to elaborate on the being outside part, like there was a lot more

2373
02:22:52.040 --> 02:22:54.760
guesswork from what I remember in like
how much how much visibility you have?

2374
02:22:54.840 --> 02:22:58.639
Well, there's you can do.
There's like the camouflage, isn't there like

2375
02:22:58.639 --> 02:23:01.319
a percentage? Ye? And it's
like, oh, is this tall grass

2376
02:23:01.360 --> 02:23:05.760
gonna mean I'm hidden or something?
Can they still see and you're not moving

2377
02:23:05.760 --> 02:23:07.840
and you're down in the grass.
The guy should be able to walk straight

2378
02:23:07.879 --> 02:23:11.440
past you and that shouldn't be a
problem. I liked the hard right angles

2379
02:23:11.479 --> 02:23:13.680
of hallways and being able to get
in a lot. I'm hiding behind this

2380
02:23:13.719 --> 02:23:16.840
corner and then I know he can't
see me. Right, I'm gonna get

2381
02:23:16.799 --> 02:23:18.760
those locker I know he can't see
you in there. Yeah. I love

2382
02:23:18.760 --> 02:23:22.319
all the weird shit that can happen. Like Drew was doing a thing where

2383
02:23:22.319 --> 02:23:24.440
he was down in the grass hiding
from these like patrolling guys, and he

2384
02:23:24.479 --> 02:23:28.360
was actually being really stealthy and stuff, and there's a snake right next to

2385
02:23:28.440 --> 02:23:30.319
him. I was playing it right, yeah, and he's like, oh,

2386
02:23:30.360 --> 02:23:31.440
I don't want the snake to fuck
with me here, and he stabs

2387
02:23:31.479 --> 02:23:33.719
the snake. So all of a
sudden, there's a dead snake there,

2388
02:23:33.760 --> 02:23:37.559
and one of the guard dogs like
could tell there was food nearby, and

2389
02:23:37.600 --> 02:23:41.120
so the dog just goes right over
and starts like eating the snake. He's

2390
02:23:41.120 --> 02:23:43.159
like, wait, there's a dude
here too, sets off the alarms and

2391
02:23:43.239 --> 02:23:45.719
everything goes down. It's obviously the
dog couldn't smell the snake until it was

2392
02:23:45.719 --> 02:23:50.440
dead. Yeah, that's how food
works. Yeah. I remember not loving

2393
02:23:50.479 --> 02:23:54.120
the way that game played. I
remember that being the moment when I realized

2394
02:23:54.159 --> 02:23:58.239
I might have to, like just
I don't know, suffer through a Metal

2395
02:23:58.280 --> 02:24:01.079
Gear game to see what I wanted
to see in it. I mean I

2396
02:24:01.120 --> 02:24:05.600
have, I have done that with
all of them. I get frustrated a

2397
02:24:05.760 --> 02:24:09.399
lot. Yes, yeah, I
get frustrated a lot, But that doesn't

2398
02:24:09.440 --> 02:24:15.479
mean I disliked them like I am
loving this one's that's fair, But I

2399
02:24:15.479 --> 02:24:18.840
mean like I inherently enjoyed playing two, Like I still thought it was fun

2400
02:24:18.840 --> 02:24:22.559
to sneak around and do the gameplay
stuff into I feel like I remember in

2401
02:24:22.600 --> 02:24:24.559
three just kind of like dragging my
ass from one story beat to the next.

2402
02:24:24.600 --> 02:24:30.799
I just I don't like fumbling,
and I fumbled through metal gears where

2403
02:24:30.799 --> 02:24:33.719
you're dealing with it. And this
one is super weird because you never used

2404
02:24:33.719 --> 02:24:37.040
grenades in one or two, but
you've done this thing like six times in

2405
02:24:37.040 --> 02:24:39.159
the new one to where when you
just don't know what to do, you

2406
02:24:39.200 --> 02:24:41.719
just start throwing grenades everywhere, which
I've never seen anyone play any metal gear

2407
02:24:41.799 --> 02:24:46.239
like that. You killed an ass
al lot with by throwing grenades at him

2408
02:24:46.479 --> 02:24:48.200
because I've ran out of all my
other am okay, that was your backwards

2409
02:24:48.200 --> 02:24:50.879
against the wall there. But it
was also cool when you blew up all

2410
02:24:50.920 --> 02:24:54.600
those guys in the docks. So
all right, keep doing what you're doing.

2411
02:24:54.600 --> 02:24:58.159
I get I'm having fun on that. It's ridiculous and I love it.

2412
02:24:58.159 --> 02:25:00.520
It is that well, yeah,
for sure, of all this stuff

2413
02:25:00.520 --> 02:25:01.920
about how it's like it's way more
grounded than two, which this is like

2414
02:25:01.959 --> 02:25:05.680
a more just grounded story, where
I should have said less convoluted, because

2415
02:25:05.680 --> 02:25:09.319
like in the first episode, it's
like, oh, here's the b man

2416
02:25:09.559 --> 02:25:11.719
and the Spider Way and the old
Man just is weird. If it's more,

2417
02:25:11.920 --> 02:25:16.879
I should convolution, you'd be Vulgan
and whoever else. Yeah, yeah,

2418
02:25:16.959 --> 02:25:18.680
it's fucking weird. I remember quite
liking the storytelling in that game,

2419
02:25:18.719 --> 02:25:22.040
but not a whole lot else.
The story is really good to me.

2420
02:25:22.040 --> 02:25:26.040
It does not seem that much a
departure. Yeah. Again, maybe the

2421
02:25:26.040 --> 02:25:28.840
stuff I added in subsistence helps with
that stuff. I remember. That's just

2422
02:25:28.879 --> 02:25:33.399
the camera. Yeah, I don't
know. Four's good. I like four.

2423
02:25:33.680 --> 02:25:35.399
Yeah, four, it's real good. I'm looking forward to getting for

2424
02:25:37.200 --> 02:25:39.000
all right, what does everybody else
have on their agenda for the week and

2425
02:25:39.000 --> 02:25:43.760
any other stuff? Panel? Our
panel, Yes, that will be coming

2426
02:25:43.799 --> 02:25:48.120
soon. Yes, also I believe
our production panel. Yes, this is

2427
02:25:48.360 --> 02:25:52.559
did end up getting recorded. I
think so so. I have not seen

2428
02:25:52.600 --> 02:25:56.760
the footage, but I have heard
the audio that I recorded. I am

2429
02:25:56.799 --> 02:25:58.879
pretty sure a video will go up. That's great. I ended up having

2430
02:26:00.040 --> 02:26:01.719
missed that and I would like to
see it. I went to it.

2431
02:26:01.760 --> 02:26:05.680
I liked it. I heard it
was good. Any other major stuff out

2432
02:26:05.680 --> 02:26:09.639
of packs it's probably about it content
wise, that's it. Yeah, Yeah,

2433
02:26:09.159 --> 02:26:13.040
there are people shooting the Packsomnia thing. I don't know what that's going

2434
02:26:13.120 --> 02:26:16.079
towards something stream Well I got live
streams, Yeah it did. But yeah,

2435
02:26:16.120 --> 02:26:20.079
I think there's gonna be some like
extra video stuff or something. I

2436
02:26:20.120 --> 02:26:22.600
don't know. There are a couple
of people they are shooting like promos and

2437
02:26:22.639 --> 02:26:24.479
stuff, so we'll see what happens. Anybody know what the deal is with

2438
02:26:24.559 --> 02:26:30.120
archiving all the stream panels since Twitch
doesn't let archives hang around very long anymore.

2439
02:26:30.600 --> 02:26:33.000
So if you want to see packsomania, maybe go to twitch and watch

2440
02:26:33.000 --> 02:26:37.280
it. Someone already ripped it and
on YouTube, so it's out there.

2441
02:26:37.280 --> 02:26:41.319
I don't know, I wouldn't mind
seeing some of that stuff. Swear you

2442
02:26:41.440 --> 02:26:43.680
huh sweary? Yeah? How did
that go? Good? Yeah? The

2443
02:26:43.719 --> 02:26:46.319
whole thing went all right? I
take it. Yeah right, it was

2444
02:26:46.399 --> 02:26:50.959
well. I mean for some people
that want it was super stupid. Yes,

2445
02:26:52.479 --> 02:26:56.600
how much longer can that thing keep
going? It's a great question continue

2446
02:26:56.680 --> 02:27:01.280
escalating. Yeah, it's the I
think the thing that we kind of everyone

2447
02:27:01.360 --> 02:27:05.000
kind of said to each other as
we were winded down this one, was

2448
02:27:05.040 --> 02:27:09.559
like, maybe we're done with glass
now? So Hi? Yeah, is

2449
02:27:09.600 --> 02:27:13.559
that because the bit TI because yeah, it's just kind of like this was

2450
02:27:13.719 --> 02:27:16.719
this was the big blowoff for glass. There was so much of it,

2451
02:27:16.840 --> 02:27:20.600
Yes, constantly. Yeah, it's
not like you can't continue escalating that.

2452
02:27:20.959 --> 02:27:24.079
Yeah, at a certain point,
chair shots to that yeah, chair shots

2453
02:27:24.159 --> 02:27:26.799
unprotected. Chair shots to the head
is where we're going. So yeah,

2454
02:27:26.799 --> 02:27:30.600
there as atain a certain point you
graduate to real glass, right of course.

2455
02:27:30.760 --> 02:27:35.360
Yeah, some people are really getting
it hard way, Yes exactly,

2456
02:27:35.760 --> 02:27:39.520
that's uh, yeah, well they're
STI letting them happen. Brad just sees

2457
02:27:39.520 --> 02:27:43.680
the wrestling term you're smart. No, I didn't, You're a smart Shut

2458
02:27:43.719 --> 02:27:46.399
the fuck up? So was that? You don't use that language in here.

2459
02:27:46.799 --> 02:27:50.040
Keep a cafe, God damn it, it will work. Shoot.

2460
02:27:50.079 --> 02:27:54.159
Uh, keep an eye on the
side for stuff, having plans in place

2461
02:27:54.239 --> 02:27:56.360
to shoot if things went wrong.
It's going to go into business for ourselves.

2462
02:27:56.399 --> 02:28:00.360
If things got weird, I got
fuck it. We'll just our way

2463
02:28:00.360 --> 02:28:05.399
out of here. This is uh, what's what's your organization? The run

2464
02:28:05.479 --> 02:28:09.680
GFB Team GF E, run GFV, run GFB Steam, Jeff vs a

2465
02:28:09.719 --> 02:28:13.360
podcast. Okay, that's something totally. I thought that was GJFP Radio.

2466
02:28:13.879 --> 02:28:16.040
It's Team GF it's hashtagged and don't
look, oh god, don't listen to

2467
02:28:16.159 --> 02:28:20.000
Let's let's go do other things.
All right, let's get out of here.

2468
02:28:20.360 --> 02:28:22.239
We got a lot of games to
catch up on. We will catch

2469
02:28:22.319 --> 02:28:24.399
up on those games. They will
end up on the site in some form

2470
02:28:24.719 --> 02:28:28.879
on content approaches. Just bear with
us as we get back up speed this

2471
02:28:28.920 --> 02:28:33.719
week, and we'll be back next
week with another edition of this year Giant

2472
02:28:33.719 --> 02:28:35.200
Bomb Cast. So see then.