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Prior to launched Magic, I thought
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people pressed by didn't realize you had
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sales paid. So it kind of
just stepped out the whole process for me.

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So when I am creating my content
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I am, you know, subconsciously
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towards that position where they're ready to
buy. So just being able to have

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a clear idea of start to finished, like start to doors open, what

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that process is, that was just
so helpful for me. Welcome to imperfect

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Action. I'm Steph Taylor. For
years, I read all the books,

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downloaded all the freebies, and did
all the courses, but it wasn't until

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I started taking imperfect action that my
business had its first million dollars year.

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Imperfect action is about doing things before
you're ready, prioritizing consistent action over perfect

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action, and moving forward even when
you're not sure you're doing it right.

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On this show, you can expect
mindset advice, actionable marketing tips and strategies

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to build a business that brings you
more profit, more freedom, and even

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more joy. You want the list
to get my daily businesses. Every day

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i'll send you a bite sized prompt
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a more intentional way. Sign up
at Steph Taylor dot co, forward slash

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DBB, or at the link in
the show notes. Hey, welcome back

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to in Perfect Action. This is
episode eight hundred and twenty two. Now

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at the moment as you're listening to
this episode. If you're listening to it

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when it goes live, doors are
open for Launch Magic. Whether this is

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your very first launch or you are
ready to scale an existing offer, join

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me inside Launch Magic to create a
rinse and repeat launch strategy for more sales,

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more on demand cash injections, and
more freedom and your business whenever you

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want it. Today's episode is a
rerun from a little while back where I

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actually ran a live panel during one
of my Launch Magic launches and I interviewed

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some alumni or some past students about
their experiences in the program, about their

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experien is launching and the advice that
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going through the launch process. This
chat is very casual, it's very fun,

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but if you are thinking about joining
Launch Magic, it's a must listen

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to help you decide whether it's going
to be the right fit for you in

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your particular situation or not. So
let's jump into the live panel with my

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alumni. I really wanted to bring
in a bunch of my students where we

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could chat about their journey and their
experience not just in the course, but

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in launching and in business a little
bit more generally, because not everybody's experience

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looks the same. It's not one
linear path towards building out a business that

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is focused around digital products, whether
that be an online course or a membership

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or a group program, or any
combination of these kinds of offers. So

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today I have four of my students. I have Kirsty Allen, who is

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a candle business coach. I have
Tiana Karamias who is a Kavu coach and

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breeder. And I have Kate Carmen
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is a graphic designer. And Claire
Wood who is a coach and money mentor.

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These four students have such different stories
and such different experiences that I know,

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even if you can't relate to all
of them, which you likely won't

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be able to, you'll be able
to see yourself in the shoes of at

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least one of them and start to
see how your journey doesn't have to follow

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the same path and the same trajectory
as everybody else out there. So let's

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jump into the episode. When I
was curating the panel for today, I

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really wanted to make sure that we
had a pretty broad group of Launch Magic

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students who had been who joined at
different stages of their journey, and who

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had different levels of experience when they
came into the program. So, you

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know, first up today, I'll
introduce Kirsty. So Kirsty is a candle

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business coach, but when she came
into Launch Magic, she was selling candles

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right so essentially she had to start
a brand new business and now she helps

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candle business owners to transform and grow
their candle business via an online course,

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one on one coaching, and soon
to be released membership for candle makers.

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Tiana was kind of similar to Kirsty
in that she had to pivot quite majorly

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when she came into Launch Magic,
going from being a Kaverdal breeder or cavapoo

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if you're in the UK or US, through to now becoming a Kavertal coach

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and helping families to raise and train
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their lifestyles. Then we have Kate
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she'd been sitting on an idea for
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two years. You can correct me
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you've been sitting on this idea for
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quite got around to launching it.
Now. Kate is the founder and creative

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director of Studio Wildling, which is
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and her big thing is branding and
conscious creativity. And then lastly we

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have Claire who had launched a few
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weren't feeling so good when you came
in. We'll talk about we'll talk about

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that in a minute as well.
So I mean, for full disclosure,

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Claire is one of my best friends
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which I think is like that is
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somebody who doesn't ask for mates rates, who just pays full price for

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your courses without even without even telling
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So Claire is that's also a testament
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I need this course in my life, and I really value it and I

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want to pay for price for it. So you thank you. I was

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going to introat you see properly.
So Claire is a money mentor, author,

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speaker, and podcaster and her book
Intentional Profit is today the launch date.

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Today's the launch date. Today's the
launch date, which is very exciting.

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She's a qualified accountant, but she's
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on money, mindset on marketing,
and on profit. So let's get started

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with a couple of questions. So
I'm going to start with Kirsty and Tiana.

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Let's start with Kirsty. So,
Kirsty, you weren't just brand new

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to launching, like you were essentially
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you hadn't even created this offer to
launch yet. What were some of the

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challenges that were coming up before you
signed up for launch Magic? Thanks Steph

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for having me on today. The
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finding that I knew what I wanted
to achieve, but didn't have a fee,

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didn't have a strutream place, didn't
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a bit lost with how to breed
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yourself then Launched Magic and was reading
through the informations of the course, it

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just everything just clipped and it just
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Yeah, amazing. And Tiana,
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been going from this like in person
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online business, which is a completely
different world. What were some of the

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challenges that you were facing before you
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I knew I wanted to do something
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down to your house and I wanted
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I knew I wanted to go digital, but I didn't know how, and

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I definitely didn't know how to change
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want to buy digitally and not just
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and conflicted, and I just had
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idea where to start. So Launch
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I which just it just gave me
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be stepped through the whole entire process, and it was kind of like the

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situation where you don't know what you
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the way that I knew the course
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it would be really easy to you
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and it would be achievable. So
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as soon as that came across it. Oh, I love that, Kate.

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Now you had been sitting on this
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while. What was stopping you from
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coming up that were holding you back
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Yeah, well thanks for having me
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I was sitting on this concept for
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I think one of the biggest challenges
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kind of balance my client workload,
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while also carving out space for future
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of these other long term visions and
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including my coss build abundance with Widepress. So I yeah, I'm a qualified

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digital designer. I had been in
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my own studio for a couple of
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sitting on this wealth of knowledge and
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small businesses or other creative businesses and
online entrepreneurs with this knowledge to create websites

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and a successful web design studio as
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for me was trying to find that
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which was just like back to back
projects, no time for myself diving in

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and out of like the cycles of
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going through rounds of burnout and all
of the things. And then it

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was just some mindset stuff as well, you know, like overcoming limiting belief

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and all of the things that we
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So I knew that I just needed
accountability and I needed that structure. I've

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got the technical aptitude, I've got
like to know how, and I could

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have pieced it all together myself,
but it wasn't going to happen clearly,

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because it hadn't happened for two years. So I saw launch Magic pop up

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and I had been you know,
like following you for a little while in

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the background. As you kind of
notice what I joined, You're like,

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where did you come from? But
yeah, it was just about the accountability.

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Like of course the structure and the
outlines looked amazing and exactly what I

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was needing to, you know,
actuate this idea and kind of get it

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out of my head, get it
out into the world. But not only

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you know, create the course,
but you have to know how to launch

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it, because I say, that's
like a totally different segment that I hadn't

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really anticipated. Is like that launch
structure and launch magic totally just clarified everything

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from me. Maybe it's super easy. It was like week by week,

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step by step, I had the
accountability or you know, my creative peers

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from you as well, and you
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you know, like a launch date
in mind. It was like here we

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go, gotta do this. So
yeah, without it, I'd probably still

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be sitting on that course idea.
To be honest, I think you answered

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like three of my questions just but
like that roller coaster that you were on

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before you came in is so real
and I think so many people experience that,

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especially people, especially designers and copywriters. I noticed this the most with

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those two categories of business owners where
they're like busy, and marketers as well.

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They're so busy one day and they've
got all this client work and then

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they don't have any time to do
any marketing or bring any new clients the

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door, and then the next month
it's absolute crickets. Yeah, and then

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they get busy and starting marketing again, and they get clients in and then

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it's crickets and it's this roller coaster, this feast of famine roller coaster that

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I think having an online course or
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help to smooth out that roller coaster
a little bit. Now, Claire,

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you came in too launch Magic at
a very different point to Kirsty, Tiana

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and Kate, because you had already
created your course, you'd already launched it.

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I think twice when you came in, and a lot of people would

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think like, well, you don't
need launch Magic, Like you've done the

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hard work, You've launched it that
first time, and that's great, Like

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it's just there now for people to
buy. So talk me through where you

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were before. You joined Launch Magic
and what made you decide to join?

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So, yeah, I've been launching
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I needed a lot of refinement because
I've been winging it a launch truthfully with

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my launch process, and what I
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what other people were doing and trying
to kind of copy, you know,

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for example, like webinars, I
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converted well. In terms of my
messaging as well, I had a lot

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of blurriness. I even knew that, like I was like, what exactly

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am I selling here? And for
me, that's really why I wanted to

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join, because I knew that I
needed structure and I knew that I needed

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a lot more clarity, specifically in
the space of messaging. So those are

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the big things that really magnetized me. And when you were talking about it,

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I was like, this course isn't
for people just for people who have

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never launched before. This has actually
got so much to add to an experienced

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launcher. So that's why I wanted
to jumping as well. So as someone

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who had launched before and who had
been in business for quite a while,

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were you worried that it would waste
a lot of time covering all of the

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basic things that you already knew.
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however, something that I've learned from
many, many years in business,

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like I've done multiple multiple courses about, for example, money, because I'm

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a money person, and I'm like, if I take like sometimes it's like

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one thing that changes everything, and
even if you know like eighty percent of

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it, if you line a couple
of new things and suddenly you go,

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oh my gosh, like the penny
drops or it's like an affirmation of something

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that you already knew, but I
knew that it's for me, it's like

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the one percent of five percent things
that I still continue to learn that are

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the absolute game changes. So I
was worried there'd be a lot of repeat

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But to be honest, coming through
the content, I was like this,

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it's so much of it was fresh
and different anyway, So it was a

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bit of a concern of mine,
but it wasn't really an issue as I

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went through the course. Yay,
Now, Tiana, you were essentially starting

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a completely new business, like you
had to do it, new website,

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all of that, So it's taken
you a lot longer to navigate the whole

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launch process. But I'd love to
know how or in what ways Launch Magic

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has impacted your business. Aside from
giving you that structure that you need to

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launch when you eventually get there,
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you're ready to do that, it
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entire business. Before Launch Magic,
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through Launch Magic, I got to
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like Claire said, that was really
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my existing audience into an audience that
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So three launch Magic, I launched
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launching you know, a course or
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completely changed my business. All of
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a podcast, and I didn't have
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Magic. It sort of inspired me
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so I could learn, you know, what issues are my audience struggling with,

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what can I help from with and
really get clarity before I made the

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course. Then once I made the
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that problem. So Mount Magic just
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take my time, and actually learn
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course. Mm. And I think
that's a lesson. A lot of people

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don't really embrace like they'll spend all
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think their audience needs, and then
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and like, you know, one
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realize that there's this huge misalignment between
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thought that their audience needs, and
then it's like, oh, you've got

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to either go back and redo the
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time they just give up on it. They're like, oh, this isn't

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working, and I'm just gonna pretend
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then Kirsty, like, when you
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you expecting to learn from it versus
what you got inside the course. Yeah.

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So, so I put a lot
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me everything that I needed to know
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the big lessons that taught me was
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but also that I didn't have to
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which made a really big difference in
not feeling as much pressure to try

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and do everything at once. So
knowing that I could land the theory,

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implement what was relevant to me then
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course based on what my audience was
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me. And you had quite a
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of essentially starting a new business.
Were you at any point worried that your

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audience wasn't going to be big enough
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it takes to launch. Yeah,
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started, I had zero email subscribers, and then by the time i'd finished,

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just as I opened doors to the
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sign up with a course, it
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that I spent two three months leading
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doing all the steps and it just
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and you ended up with what was
it, seven people signed up seven out

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of one hundred. That's a seven
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is insanely good. What would you
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audience is too small and is waiting
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launch. I'd say that everyone begins
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process. No matter what stage of
the journey you're at it, if you

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do the program, you'll learn that
your audience will grow alongside you're doing the

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course. So as you go through
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different things into practice, your audience
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that when you come to actually launching
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digital and free that's when you have
more people ready to be in a position

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to parat just from you. Yeah, I love that. And then you

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launch again, and you launch again, and you launch again, and it

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grows each time you do it,
and it gets bigger. Yes, Kate,

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what was it about launch magic that
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line and actually launch this time?
Rather you know, even though you'd been

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sitting on it for so long?
Like, what was it I know you

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mentioned a little bit about the accountability, but was there anything in particular that

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you thought like, this is everything
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needing to do this one hundred percent. I think the way that you've structed

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the course is wagon percent and stuff, and it's really like week by week

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and you really encourage us to all
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It's really easy to kind of want
to jump ahead into different phases,

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especially when it gets to like the
fun creative part or creating webinar or doing

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all of the different tasks and things
like that, but you really kind of

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make a point of being like you
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it is that foundational work where you
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messaging, like Claire said, like
really dissect Like I had a clear idea

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in my mind about what I wanted
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answering those questions on paper or actually
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like going through everything week by week, setting up a really solid foundation

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and then kind of not jumping ahead
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in overwhelmed because you're like, oh, my gosh, Like, I think

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that's where I was initially getting stuck
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commenting my course creation. It was
like, yeah, I'm going to do

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this this, and then as I
started kind of writing down the structure,

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my list was just like huge,
and then I'd get overwhelmed. I'm like,

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really amazing job at just kind of
breaking that down and be like you start

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here grocery week one and then we
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it was that process. Yeah,
it's it's so challenging as well as

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like as the person delivering Launch Magic
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people start asking questions like oh,
should I be doing this thing or should

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I be doing that now? And
I'm like, no, no, no,

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just follow the process. We will
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rush it, don't start thinking about
it like it's all there. Uh So

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I'm glad you actually mentioned that,
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Yeah, that structure now, Tiana, before you signed up for Launch Magic,

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you were really good at giving away
very good valuable advice for free.

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You giving away this amazing valuable advice
that you weren't charging people for and that

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you could have charged them for.
What shifts have you made in your content?

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a result of what you learned in
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value of an email list. Firstly, so I learned about I mean,

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Steph, you talk about it all
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it's a rented space and if the
algorithm changes, your audience changes. So

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that was a really just eye opening
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at that time before Launch Magic,
I was sharing all of my content on

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Instagram Stories, I knew for a
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twenty four hours, and secondly,
my audience wasn't growing because the algorithm was

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changing all of the time it still
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what a lead magnet is and how
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I'd actually get my information in front
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learning about podcast and how valuable are
the very longer form content that was really

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eye opening for me. I hadn't
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by just hearing you know, how
you explained the power of having, you

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know, like instead of doing social
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that you control. That was just
completely changing my business. And then when

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I started delivering that content consistently,
that was another thing. Consistently actually putting

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it out there. That when I
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invested in wanting to work with me
on my one on one coaching, and

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that was just incredible. And now
when I talk about things on my stories,

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I can link to a podcast episode
and then my podcast links to my

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email list, so it's all a
bit of a funnel linking back to me

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so that everyone so I can talk
to everyone every day and it doesn't disappear.

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So that's how my content changed for
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honestly. And anybody who likes poppies, gon follow Tiana. I will

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I'll link to what because we'll share
this recording in the podcast, and I'll

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link to everybody's Instagram in the show
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She has the cutest poppy videos like, oh my goodness, they are just

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adorable. It was beautiful dogs.
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are there's still any parts of launch
Magic that you refer back to, or

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any parts of the course that you
still use, oh one hundred percent so

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much. Today I'm actually launching a
new course next month, and the very

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first thing that I thought is,
I'm going to go dig up Launch Magic

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again. And even though I'm down
this process for me, I know that

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because what I was doing wrong before
was the messaging. And I think that

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so many of us are just tempted
to jump into either writing the course or

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writing the you know, the hours
page, and it's like, well,

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hang on, You've got to think
about like where your audience are and then

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bring them on a journey. So
the very first thing that I'm going to

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do is go back into launch Magic. I still go if I'm trying to

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write an email or get feedback from
my audience, I go back and get

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the frameworks from launch Magic. And
you know, as a coach, it's

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got an extra layer of course of
value for me because I can say to

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people when I'm looking at their launches, I can say, well, what

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about or have you thought about this? And you know, I've directed so

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many of my clients to the course
over the years as well, and I

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can do it with confidence because I've
actually been through the framework myself, so

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it's definitely something that I use again
and again and I know that I will

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for years to come. I love
that so with you know, with every

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course, basically people get different things
out of it, even though it's the

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same. You know, even if
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people getting different value or finding different
parts valuable. Like some people will be

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like Kirsty, who came to pretty
much every single live call, and then

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other people will be like Claire,
who I don't think came to any live

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calls, and some people, you
know, like some people are there to

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interact in the community, some don't
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put this question out to all of
you, starting with Kirsty, what did

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you personally find to be the most
valuable part of Launch Magic for you?

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Definitely the community. Having a group
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me, able to ask questions,
to get support from, you know,

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have cheerleaders along the way. Knowing
that you weren't alone in the launch of

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Magic journey was huge for me.
So yeah, I love the community aspect

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of it. Piano well, for
me, before launch Magic. I didn't

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even know what launching was. I
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So coming into the launch Magic,
I could just see all of the huddle

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or pieces fall into place, and
how you leave Magic pens into an email

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list and then you have to write
a sales page for the right methoging.

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Prior to launch Magic, I thought
you just had a little cart button and

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people pressed by. I didn't realize
you had to take them through a journey

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on your sales page. So it
kind of just stepped out the whole process

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for me. So when I am
creating my content and when I'm communicating to

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my audience, I am, you
know, subconsciously for them, I am

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directing them towards that position where they're
ready to buy. So just being able

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to have a clear idea of start
to finish, like start to doors open,

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what that process is, that was
just so helpful for me. Love

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that. And Kate, what did
you find to be the most valuable part

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for you? Accountability for sure from
the community and also, yeah, like

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claar dis mentioned before, having the
option to revisit that content for each and

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every launch, and you know,
adjusting messaging and things like that. As

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well, I think having access to
you for the life calls, to get

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feedback in real time, to troubleshoot
and you know, problem solved, so

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you're kind of not getting stuck at
one point, you're being able to progress

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through the course. And yeah,
as well as what Seata just said,

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the resources, So having that complete
structure of every single step along the way,

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it's seriously just it's streamlined the entire
process. It's kind of in a

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way like, yeah, you're adding
your own messaging, but a lot of

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it is kind of like a plug
and play, which you know, for

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me, my initial you know,
the thing that was stopping me was time,

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this just kind of like gave me

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that structure getting the resource. It
showed me how the door step by step,

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and it's something that I can go
back to every single time. So

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yeah, there's a there's a whole
lot of value. I couldn't just pink

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point it's one thing step And Claire, I don't think you're in the community

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and you never came to a live
call. What did you find to be

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the most valuable part? Well,
it's funny because I actually did come to

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all of the live calls the first
round, did you I joined them there?

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I joined to get the second round
and the second round, I was

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like, not coming to the calls. What did I find. There's a

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couple of things that I took on. Firstly, the structure I loved.

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I love having structure because I met
really uh disorber Cut, So I really

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really love all the templates and the
framework and structure that in there. And

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I mean the biggest thing for me
is the messaging. And also you know,

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the analysis, the launch analysis,
and sometimes you know, I launched

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all the time, and sometimes I
can go a little bit into victim mode

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if a launch doesn't go according to
plant, And sometimes I can come back

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and analyze it and say, well, actually you had an insane conversion rate

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off that webinar. You just didn't
have enough people in there. Or conversely,

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00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,839
I can say something went wrong here
because you know, the turnout rate's

411
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,119
not right or the messaging is not
right. And so rather than throwing my

412
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,880
toys out of the cotton, you
know, going and finding a job on

413
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,720
seek, I can come back and
analyze it with a bit of context and

414
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:37,440
then just go, Okay, let's
do it again. Let's learn the lessons.

415
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,200
Let's go out and understand what wasn't
resonating with our audience. And I

416
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,480
think this is the thing that we
can forget in launching, is that it

417
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:49,200
really is just a process of tweaking
and tweaking. And because there's those tools

418
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,480
that you can come back to them
again and again and say, Okay,

419
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,279
what do I need to tweet with
the messaging what wasn't resonating and get some

420
00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,519
feedback and white people won't buying.
And I'm going to put this es out

421
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:02,640
to all of you as well.
What would you say to someone who's sitting

422
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,640
on the fence thinking about joining launch
Magic Claire, Let's go with you first.

423
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,279
I mean, I know, honestly
as someone who's been through it,

424
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,079
it's crazy to me if you are
sitting on the fence and not jumping in,

425
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,359
Because for me, this is paid
for itself. I can't even tell

426
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,759
you how many multiples are over you
know, I've had multiple six figure launches

427
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:25,759
and to sit down and look at
the cost of the investment. You know,

428
00:30:25,799 --> 00:30:29,480
even if your first launch doesn't make
the money back, the skills you

429
00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:33,000
learn in here are things that you
can use again and again and again and

430
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:37,240
again. I you know, like
I said, I am certainly using them

431
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,480
myself, so I would jump in
it, go bo it. And you

432
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:45,039
know, if you do have any
questions, we're happy to answer them here.

433
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:48,279
But for me, it's been one
of the best investments I've made in

434
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:52,799
my business and I'm a raving there
awesome. If we do have any audience

435
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:55,240
questions, feel free to pop them
in the chat and we'll get to them

436
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:57,680
after this question. Kate, what
would you say to somebody who's sitting on

437
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,880
the fence thinking about it much as
say as leaders said, I for me,

438
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,079
like I had mentioned before, you
know, I'd been following along with

439
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:12,160
your journey for a while just in
the background, and it was a real

440
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:15,480
no brain. I saw your own
launch, I jumped on a webinar and

441
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:21,559
I was like, this is exactly
what I mean. And it was like

442
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:26,079
I knew that it would be probably
another two years that I sat on a

443
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:32,599
concept if I didn't just take that
action and jump in to launch magic and

444
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:36,599
get that accountability, get that structure. I yeah, I know, I

445
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,799
fully understand. You know, investing
in yourself is like there's a lot that

446
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,200
can come up, not just like
you know, the financial investment there are

447
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,680
those limiting beliefs like oh, you
know, should I be pursuing this idea

448
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,440
and things like that. But if
you've got that dream, you've got that

449
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:56,799
spark, like it's not going to
go away. So yeah, like jumping

450
00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:01,400
into a program like launch Matic actual
you know, it will actualize your idea

451
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:07,279
and you don't know where it kind
of take you. So I would say

452
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:13,559
jump on in for sure, Tiana, What would you say? I would

453
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:15,960
say if you're at the beginning stages
of your business like I was, and

454
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:19,799
you're wondering, you know, is
it the right time? Isn't a really

455
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:22,400
big you know, financial investment?
Is this the right decision? I think

456
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,799
the most important thing to remember is
you are an expert in your field,

457
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,519
but you're most likely not an expert
in launching. And if you really want

458
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:34,000
to see success and you want to
do it correctly, and you don't want

459
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:37,000
to waste time and money, you
know, trialing things and not being any

460
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,720
success, launch Magic is the way
to go because you're learning off an expert

461
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:44,759
who has proven you know, the
process and the framework to work over and

462
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,880
over again, and students have had
success over and over again, so it'll

463
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,880
be the best investment you're making your
business. If you can accept that you

464
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,079
don't have to know everything and it's
good to learn from others, and Kirsty

465
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,799
anything you want to add that the
others haven't already said. You have the

466
00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:04,160
word much more I could say the
van. Just trust your intuition. If

467
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:07,119
this is something that has brought you
to this call, or you're listening to

468
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:12,799
the recording and it feels aligned to
you, then go with that. Don't

469
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,400
let see how'll do you back?
You know, what's the best that can

470
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,400
happen. Yeah, if you have
any questions, those of you who are

471
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,039
here, feel free to submit those. I do have one that was submitted

472
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:24,759
ahead of time, which was how
did you fit the launchmatic schedule in with

473
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:28,480
the rest of your business and life
commitments? So I'm going to put that

474
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:31,519
out and whoever wants to answer that, you're welcome to jump in and answer

475
00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:35,559
that, because I know that is
something that a lot of people are concerned

476
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,319
about as well, is like how
many hours is it going to take?

477
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,599
Obviously for some of you who took
a bit longer than others because you were

478
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,960
creating a course at the same time
or you were doing other things. But

479
00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:47,480
yeah, so how did that schedule
fit in with your business and life commitments.

480
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:52,920
Look, I'm a mama too,
and especially when I did the course,

481
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,400
my boys were really young at the
time, my business was really full,

482
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,640
and I literally I don't know,
I don't me being there, but

483
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:05,440
I I just put the time in
my diary. I move things around,

484
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:08,280
and I was like, this has
to be a priority for me, because

485
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,519
I know how important launching is for
where I wanted to take my business.

486
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:15,920
And I think that, you know, you can always make excuses, everyone's

487
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,920
always going to be time poor.
But if I did it with a really

488
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,199
full client calendar and with two young
kids, and I just said, I

489
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:30,440
have to calm out the time to
do this because otherwise I'm basically wasting time

490
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:34,400
by having, you know, launch
after launch. That isn't getting me the

491
00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:36,880
results that I want and I'm not
growing at the rate that I want.

492
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:42,360
So I just made it a priority
for me. Kate, Yeah, likewise,

493
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:49,320
so I was very time poor for
client calendar rolling through that Fi Femine

494
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,800
roller coaster. As you mentioned that
designers are very susceptible to but I knew,

495
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,239
like, yeah, I could have
figured it out on my own,

496
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,320
but di I wirrying. It would
have taken me so much more time,

497
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:06,119
and I knew in my heart to
just get the idea out there, I

498
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:12,480
needed that structure and I needed that
accountability, and it totally streamlined the process.

499
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:16,800
It saved me, Like I can't
even imagine how many hours I'd still

500
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,159
be figuring out piecing it out.
I wouldn't have these references to go back

501
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:24,400
to all that structure about launching.
Sure, I could have created my actual

502
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,880
course on my own, but yeah, having the whole launch process, it

503
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,960
saved me so much time from DIY
and also money, like time has money,

504
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:38,480
Like you know, No, that
makes so much sense, Kirsty,

505
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:42,719
Tiana, do you have anything you
want to add to that? How you've

506
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,920
managed to fit it in with your
schedule? Yeah, So when I when

507
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,119
I started the launch process, I
had a five month old baby and it

508
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,639
was a jaggal. As you know, we all have different commitments, but

509
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,840
I knew this was a priority and
it matched my long term vision to make

510
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,880
it a priority. So you know, you fit it in if it's a

511
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:06,159
priority to you, and you just
make it work. And once you sort

512
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:09,599
of get into the rhythm of attending
the calls, doing the doing the theory,

513
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,360
implementing what you're learning. It just
becomes part of your day to day

514
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,119
with wik so it doesn't take away
from what you're doing, it adds to

515
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,239
it. I love that, Tiana. Anything to add I've been compared to

516
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,760
everyone else on the panel here,
I probably had the most of the time

517
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,760
dog breeder. When I have a
little puppies. I'm very, very busy

518
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,880
every day. But when I don't, I have a lot of free time

519
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,039
on my hands. But what I
found was when I had that free time,

520
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,079
I was doing things for the small
win so I you know, I'd

521
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:43,719
post on Instagram story, I talk
to people in vms, but I wasn't

522
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,400
moving my business forward. So for
me, with launch Magic, it made

523
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,800
me spend my time on something that
was going to get me actual results where

524
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,320
I'd get money coming into the business. And so with launch Magic, the

525
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,400
accountability of I'm going to attend every
live call after each life well, I'm

526
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,599
going to do the home work,
I'm going to implement it. I'm not

527
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,800
going to waste time doing something that's
not going to give me any retires.

528
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,280
So for me, even though I
had all this time, I was wasting

529
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,199
it day by day because I had
no direction moving forward. I had no

530
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,159
idea what to do and when to
do it. So that's yeah, that's

531
00:37:14,159 --> 00:37:16,639
what Launchramatic did for me. I
noticed we've got a little fluffy puppy in

532
00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:22,199
the corner there. Who's doing one
of many It's Chelsey. Oh, she's

533
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:27,920
so cute. All right, Well, we have no other questions from the

534
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:30,199
audience. Oh we do have a
question from Jesse. I'm in California.

535
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,559
So is there more than one option
for the calls? So the calls alternate

536
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,239
between this time or roughly this time
in the morning me in Australia, and

537
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,079
then evening calls as well, because
we have a lot of people in the

538
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:45,360
US, we have a lot of
people in Europe, so we want to

539
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,519
make sure that they can make it
to at least half of the calls.

540
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,000
The goal isn't to come to every
single call. If you wish to come

541
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,800
to every single call, like Kirsty, because it's a great bit of accountability,

542
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,079
absolutely you can. But a lot
of people find that simply having that

543
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,679
call there, they can submit their
questions ahead of time. I answer the

544
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,840
questions that have been submitted first in
the course, so you don't have to

545
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,079
listen to the entire recording to get
your question answered, and then they can

546
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:13,000
listen to the recording like we always
even upload the audios of it, so

547
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,880
you can just listen to the Q
and A recordings while you're walking your dog

548
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:19,119
or any you know, when you
have time doing chores that kind of thing.

549
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,679
So even if you can make it
live just to one or two,

550
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,679
then that's perfect, all right.
What would be one or two key elements

551
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,000
that make this different to Digital Course
Academy. So I've done Digital Course Academy.

552
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:34,000
I've been an affiliate for it.
I think it's a fantastic program.

553
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:38,840
It's more focused around the actual course
creation, whereas this is more course around

554
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:44,760
marketing and sales. So even if
you've already created your course, then this

555
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,800
is going to teach you how to
actually sell the course. Digital Course Academy

556
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,519
doesn't really go very deep into the
launch side of it. This is purely

557
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,519
on the messaging on how you are
going to nurture people through to that point

558
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:59,880
where they are ready to buy from
you, so that once you have created

559
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,760
your course or your group program or
your membership, you get it out there,

560
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,679
you actually have buyers and not just
crickets. All right, Well,

561
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:14,159
if we have no other questions from
the audience, Uh, oh, we

562
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,480
do, we do have a new
question. I love this. I love

563
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:20,360
how everybody's questions always come in at
the last minute. Okay, Corey,

564
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:22,599
I am like a newborn infant baby
to this. From creating a business to

565
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,519
marketing email list, you name it, I have not done it till now,

566
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:29,159
like one hundred and eighty degree difference
from what I've been doing for the

567
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,920
past forty seven years. Kind of
need my handheld. I think similar boat

568
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,719
to Tiana, right like you were
you even though you were on social media,

569
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,800
you your business was an in person
business. You were literally raising puppies.

570
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:45,800
Yeah. Did you find that there
was enough handholding in launch Magic?

571
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:50,719
Definitely? And even though I'm still
in the prayer excess of getting my course

572
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,719
ready, I've found so much clarity
and I've done it now twice launched Magic.

573
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,599
I haven't launched anything, but what
I've liked has just so it's it's

574
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,239
gone into all asked of my business
and it's helped me create a business that's

575
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,880
actually reliable in a way where I
know that I can have money coming in

576
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:10,800
and now when I go forward and
I do launch my course, I know

577
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,239
that the audience is ready. The
audience knows that I'm not just a breeder

578
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,719
anymore. I'm now a coach and
now I have so much knowledge on things

579
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,639
like you know, Elite magnet,
email lists, sales pages, messaging,

580
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,320
marketing, how to link people and
bring them into other aspects of your program

581
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,960
rather than just social media. It's
just stepped me through the whole process.

582
00:40:30,039 --> 00:40:34,920
And the knowledge I have now compared
to six months ago is just it's this

583
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,280
incredible. I love that. All
right, Well, so I would love

584
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,159
if all of you could share where
everybody can connect with you afterwards. Kirsty,

585
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,559
let's go with you first. Where
can people find you after this this

586
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:50,079
call and later on when this becomes
the podcast episode, Where can they go

587
00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:52,599
and find you? Yeah? Sure, so the best place is Instagram.

588
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:58,599
Then my handle is at Candle Business
Coach and Tiana. Where can people come

589
00:40:58,639 --> 00:41:01,639
and find your poppy videos? Yeah, from puppy videos. Definitely Instagram or

590
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:05,679
TikTok. If you just setch up
at Cavodle Coach, I'll be on there.

591
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,840
Otherwise you can go to my podcast
if you won't educate, no information,

592
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:13,480
And that's the Cavital Coach podcast.
They're similar names for both and Kate,

593
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:17,159
where can people find you? Probably
Instagram's are best as well at Studio

594
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:23,440
wild Lane. Basically that's my handle
for everything. And Claire Instagram is Claire

595
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:30,320
Underscore would Underscore Coach or my podcast
is the Claire Would Podcast. Love it

596
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:34,000
and Claire also has a book that
has launched today called Intentional Profit. I

597
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:37,039
have read it. I have a
copy of it, but looks really bad

598
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:43,360
because I spill coffee on it.
But it's so pretty. So thank you

599
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:45,559
so much those of you who were
here live. Thank you so much to

600
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:51,239
our amazing panelists. If you have
any questions about Launch Magic, reach out

601
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,000
to me on Instagram Stephtaylor dot co
over there, or email hello at steph

602
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:58,159
Taylor dot co and I will get
back to you as soon as I can.

603
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,559
Now. If you are listening to
this episode when it went live,

604
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,719
doors are currently open for Launch Magic, head on over to Steftaylor dot co

605
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,800
Slash Magic, where you'll find everything
you need to know about the program and

606
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:15,079
how you can enroll. If you're
listening to this episode after it goes live

607
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:17,280
after doors close, you can join
the waitlist for that at Stefftaylor dot co

608
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,519
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