WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.880 It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. 2 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:11.839 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think we are? 3 00:00:12.119 --> 00:00:15.960 Get off our show, idiot. The kids are playing or turning off. 4 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:19.640 The countries are screwing it up. Gold Play inner Murals, Brother, gold 5 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:24.000 Play Inner Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 6 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:28.559 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 7 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:48.159 Now? Here's nick coffee. Today is another day where the city of 8 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:51.439 Louisville, I think, is being discussed nationally more so than we're used to. 9 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:58.520 The Scotti chef the Scottie Scheffler legal situation has concluded, which all charges 10 00:00:58.560 --> 00:01:00.880 have been dropped, as we expected. When I say expected, I mean 11 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:06.640 I think yesterday's announcement of the county attorney talking at one Steve Romans, the 12 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:10.599 attorney for Scottie Scheffler talking at one thirty, it certainly looked as if this 13 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:15.040 was going to happen, and again charges being dropped. That's a national piece 14 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:19.319 of news. Any development in this is a national piece of news, and 15 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.120 this is the right outcome. But the things we have learned since this happened 16 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:27.799 twelve days ago, make it more and more obvious that it didn't need to 17 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:33.879 happen at all, and that's unfortunate. It really is, all right. 18 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:37.920 Welcome in everybody, ladies, gentlemen, boys and girls. It's a Wednesday 19 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:41.719 edition Happy hump Day Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven 20 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:47.640 ninety nit coffee that is me the company man John Alden alongside today and we're 21 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:49.319 gonna have some fun today. We're gonna mix it up. We've hit that 22 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:56.000 time of the year where I think I'm trying to I don't want to act 23 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:57.359 as if like you know, because one thing that has always been a real 24 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:01.480 annoyance for me is, you know, before I had a chance to be, 25 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:06.519 you know, on the radio, it's my job and get a platform 26 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:08.039 and get to have fun with it, try to be creative and do something 27 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:12.719 that I love. You know, I consumed a lot of sports radio, 28 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.800 not just here in the market but everywhere, and one thing that always made 29 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:22.599 me so angry was when people who either host, co host, fill in, 30 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.520 whatever, producer even would say things like, well, you know, 31 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:29.680 it's not a whole lot going on. I mean, if we've hit that 32 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:30.599 time of the year. I mean, it's just not a lot going on. 33 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:35.479 It would it would bring a rage out of me because I would think, 34 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:38.120 well, I mean, let me fig oh, he try, like 35 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:40.879 I'm pretty sure I could figure something to talk about. Like it just it 36 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:46.400 always bothered me. So even though you know, the things we talk about 37 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:50.039 the majority of the time around here, we've got a little ways to go 38 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:54.120 before we get college football, NFL, college basketball, and the NBA Finals. 39 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:59.000 I mean we'll talk about them here and there maybe, but this is 40 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:05.360 like truly the off season for me. Like June through I guess mid August. 41 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.120 I mean even in mid August, I mean it's just preseason NFL and 42 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.120 you're just waiting for camps to end for the football season to start. But 43 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:14.599 like June, July and half of August, I feel like is whenever you 44 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:16.520 know you get to get you get creative, right. It's not as if 45 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:23.159 somebody's going to tune in today and want to hear analysis on the game last 46 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:27.000 night, because you know there's no games going on. So I've always really 47 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:30.479 enjoyed this time of year because I can go in a direction that you know, 48 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:35.520 maybe some won't notice it as much that I'm not really doing a sports 49 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:40.199 talk show and it's fun. And yesterday it really reminded me of how fun 50 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:45.000 this could be because something we talked about in the five o'clock hour, and 51 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:49.159 not only did I get more reaction on the text line about that than anything 52 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:52.719 else we discussed, but I had people writeing me on social media, had 53 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:57.719 a friend of mine text me who heard us talking about it. And then 54 00:03:57.800 --> 00:04:00.719 later last night my group chat group text with a lot of my close buddies 55 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:04.000 that we've had going for many, many many years. You know, they 56 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:11.080 showed me a picture of the same situation happening, and that is the dudes 57 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:13.759 that go door to door. And maybe there's not maybe it's not just dudes. 58 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:15.560 Maybe women do it as well, although I will say I've never seen 59 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:20.920 a woman doing a There's a lot of different door to door gigs out there 60 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:25.279 over the years that I've at least seen. Whether you're selling security systems, 61 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:27.839 you're selling meat out of the trunk of your car, or you're selling like 62 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.199 pest control. What else? Is there any other things John you could think 63 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.360 of that fit in that category. Those are the big ones. I've definitely 64 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:38.759 had the most encounters with the pest control in the security system. Have you 65 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:40.839 ever seen a woman doing it? No, I have. Yeah, I 66 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:43.480 mean I'm sure they can. In fact, they'd probably be more successful. 67 00:04:44.560 --> 00:04:46.839 Yeah, exactly. And you know, maybe they're just better at, you 68 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.959 know, selling the product. I don't know, but I mean they're they're 69 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:56.800 they're everywhere, and I don't know if it's like time of the year kind 70 00:04:56.800 --> 00:04:58.879 of thing, but there's one specific company, and I want to you know, 71 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:00.600 I'm not going to mention who they are are. John knew exactly who 72 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:03.240 I was talking about when I said it yesterday because and let me ask you 73 00:05:03.240 --> 00:05:06.439 this, did you notice that recently or was it like just something you remember 74 00:05:06.519 --> 00:05:10.680 from you know, or something. I think it was maybe a year or 75 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.839 two ago, whenever we first moved into the neighborhood we live in now in 76 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:16.519 Mount Washington. I guess they were scoping out, you know, the trying 77 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:19.160 to find out who might be new in the area. And you know, 78 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:23.639 we were one of the people. We got targeted by the pest control company 79 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.759 and the one of the security system companies. Yeah, I mean, and 80 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:31.079 I've I've become more and more fascinated about the whole trading process. How they 81 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.560 just no matter what you say, they have an answer. They do not 82 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:39.319 hear you saying no, not interested. They don't even hear you saying hey, 83 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:43.399 you know, leave me alone or whatever. I mean, I'm sure 84 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.040 they do, but like they've got a response for all of it. But 85 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:50.120 let's in the area that I live in. I live in Northern Bullet County. 86 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:55.160 There's this company that's selling pest control and let's just say they got boots 87 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:59.399 on the ground. They're everywhere they got I mean, and I've learned this, 88 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:02.120 you know, some hoa's And I don't know how legit this is. 89 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:05.720 It's not as if I've talked to law enforcement. But like I feel as 90 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:10.079 if these folks that are selling these things door to door, if they're saying 91 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:12.759 this, it's because their employer told them to say this. And that is 92 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:16.079 like, hey, you know, cause if you're if you're riding around those 93 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:19.600 hoverboards and that's that's what they're called, right I think So I think I'd 94 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.120 break my neck if I try to use one. But it's just this thing 95 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:25.680 you stand on and somehow you just you know, it's got two wheels on 96 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:28.199 it. I mean, I think people know what I'm talking about. But 97 00:06:28.279 --> 00:06:30.279 does it have like a stick or do they just drive? No, No, 98 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:32.759 it's just like definitely abodeah okay, they're just floating. And like if 99 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:35.959 they're doing it on a street, a public street, like they're not trespassing. 100 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:40.120 And technically, you know, even if you have an hoa, the 101 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:44.560 street is not is not private property. But maybe you're private maybe your property 102 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:46.360 is private and at that point I think they are in fact, you know, 103 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:51.839 able to tell you you need to get off the property. It's private 104 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:55.439 property. By the way. Again, another example of me just showing you 105 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:58.120 how I don't know a whole lot of things that other grown ups probably do 106 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:00.519 know. How does one make your do you make like how if I wanted 107 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:04.839 my private if I wanted my property in my home to be private, how 108 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:08.800 does that work? Like do you is there like a process? Like I 109 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:12.079 mean, what what makes it private property? That's a good question. I 110 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:14.680 mean, could I just buy a sign? You know what I mean? 111 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.600 Like, I guess you could claim your private property. I mean, yeah, 112 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:21.399 maybe there's a situation where somebody could challenge it. And I'm sure again 113 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.800 I shouldn't put you on the spot because like you know, here we are 114 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:28.000 both acknowledge and we don't know really how that works. And I'm sure there 115 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.480 are many people who now are including you with me as far as just being 116 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:32.639 a dumbass, and I never want to do that, but I didn't, 117 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:34.879 like, can I go buy a private property sign? Put it up in 118 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:39.319 my front door and just like now my property's private. I'm sure that's not 119 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:41.560 how it works, but I don't know who says you can't. Yeah. 120 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.959 Uh, the last house we lived in, we did. We left the 121 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:48.399 security system sign in the yard that you know, we didn't inherit. We 122 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:51.839 just left the sign, like we didn't take the system. And I remember 123 00:07:54.000 --> 00:08:01.199 a mutual friend of mine worked in security systems, you know, and it 124 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:05.160 was not a not a heated conversation, but like I we you know, 125 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:07.639 I'd mentioned that that we just kind of left it there. We don't have 126 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.560 a system. And I thought I was getting cuffed and stuff like that I 127 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.360 was committing fraud because I am, you know, presenting it as if I've 128 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:18.000 obtained these services that I haven't. But like what charge would that be? 129 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.319 Right? Like I'm I just have you know, a sign in the yard. 130 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.160 I mean, I don't know anyways what I'm getting at is if you 131 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:30.120 have private property, I'm sure you can tell them, like you don't need 132 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:31.360 to be on here, and they probably don't go towards those places because they 133 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:35.559 know they really have no shot. But if you think you're protected by your 134 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:41.759 HOA that has a policy of no soliciting, here's their new response. They've 135 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:45.840 they've got a permit from the city, which I guess they can just obtain. 136 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:48.159 Now. It doesn't give them a right to not leave your property, 137 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:52.360 but like they can be in your name, and maybe they're wrong. Maybe 138 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:56.399 they just say that hoping you won't fight it. But the Facebook group for 139 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.559 my neighborhood, the Facebook group for like for for the general area that I 140 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:03.360 live in, it's all anybody's talking about. And it's because they always they 141 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.039 don't take no for an answer, and whenever you do have to be more 142 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:09.080 rude than you'd ever want to be to them, they then play victim and 143 00:09:09.120 --> 00:09:13.639 act as if you are you're in the wrong, Like it's it's fascinating to 144 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.960 me, Like, to be honest with you, whoever trains these people, 145 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:20.600 I give them credit because they don't take no, they're not discouraged, and 146 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:24.039 they're annoying, and that's I guess what you kind of have to do if 147 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:28.519 you're gonna be you know, if you're gonna be a successful door to door 148 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:33.960 salesman. Like one person chimed in and it was one of the you know, 149 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.679 an older person on Facebook who I don't know, but he was just 150 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:41.080 in the group of the area that I live. And I've never once commented 151 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.639 or anything on there, but it is fascinating to see it. You know, 152 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:46.000 I live in Bullet County, so you see some you see some stuff 153 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:50.279 on the internet. A lot of people you can you can back this up. 154 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.840 In fact, John and I were talking about it yesterday, like Bullet 155 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.240 County ins on Facebook can provide a level of entertainment that I'm not sure you're 156 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.200 going to get in a lot of places. Right. It's pretty impressive. 157 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:03.759 And again we can say that because that's where we're from, that's where we 158 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.000 live. But he acknowledged, Hey, the kids just out there trying to 159 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:11.000 make a living. I bought the services from him. He was kind, 160 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:16.639 you should too, dude, got completely bombarded with like you know, just 161 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:18.600 like well, I told him I wasn't interested. Shouldn't that be enough? 162 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.759 It's just I don't know I've so anyways, I don't know where the conversation 163 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.360 goes today, but I think it. I would love to be a fly 164 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:33.120 on the wall to hear the training process, because again, it is impressive 165 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.320 how no matter what you say, they have an answer and they won't. 166 00:10:37.440 --> 00:10:39.960 I mean, they don't hear you. They don't process it when you say 167 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:46.879 no. And that's actually what makes it to where I get like, you 168 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:48.720 know, they got nobody's been rude to me. Nobody's been like and when 169 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:54.120 it's happened to me, nobody's been rude or like disrespectful. But when you've 170 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.279 been quite clear that hey, I'm not interested, no thanks, we already 171 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:03.000 have somebody you know, don't come near me. I have the plague something 172 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:07.000 like, they just shift to something else, and I think that's like rude 173 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.879 for you to just not listen to me. It's also just rude. And 174 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:13.960 you mentioned your situation yesterday. You're in the middle of vehicle, you have 175 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:16.600 your kids, You're trying to get out and go somewhere. That's rude to 176 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:20.080 approach you in and of itself and not see that I'm clearly trying to leave 177 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:24.039 and you are holding me up. Yes, and I don't you know, 178 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:30.200 maybe this specific company they trained differently, because again, you know, this 179 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.399 is not uncommon at all. I mean different types of services, different business 180 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.759 like, but there's this one company specifically they seem to be a little bit 181 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:43.000 more aggressive. And I happen to think that like even the others that at 182 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:46.000 times, you know, or just out there trying to make a living, 183 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:50.039 they they would not have approached me the way that person did. But it 184 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:52.240 wasn't even a thought to him. It was like a say, just you 185 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.240 know, he's he's on and he's trying to sell, and you know he 186 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:58.879 doesn't want to hear and he's not going to hear anything other than In fact, 187 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.080 I don't think he's listening to any thing. To be honest with you, 188 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.639 I don't think you heard or listened anything I said, because it was 189 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:05.240 just oh do you know the such and such as down the road? How 190 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:09.200 long you lived here? We've protected a lot of people in your in your 191 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.320 uh and And that's one thing that a lot of folks have shared is that 192 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:16.440 their line is always oh do you know the such and such as? Because 193 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:20.120 they'll get somebody's name and ask if you know them, and that you know, 194 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:24.000 when they're asking questions that have nothing to do with you buying something that 195 00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:28.159 keeps the conversation going, and I guess that makes them feel more so like 196 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.480 there's like they're developing you or something. Yeah, and you know, I 197 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.399 haven't had somebody tell me that for a long time. They just didn't answer 198 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:37.639 the door. But if they know you're there and just not answering, they'll 199 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:41.919 keep knocking, like they'll do it until you do have to come to the 200 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:46.399 door and just tell them to leave. Like the it's wild. It's wild 201 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:48.840 to me. And I'm fascinated by things that are you know, I'm fascinated 202 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:52.480 about different things than most, I'm sure. But if you have any stories 203 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:58.200 of these door to door salespeople, you know, And again we're not gonna 204 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:00.799 mention a name of any name of any company because you know, I don't 205 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:05.200 want to get myself in trouble. But yeah, it's just it's crazy. 206 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:07.879 All right. Let's get to, you know, the big news of the 207 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:11.960 day, and I I feel like we should start because everybody knows what's happened 208 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:16.720 now, and that is that the charges have been dropped and the County Attorney 209 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:22.279 O'Connell i believe Mike O'Connell, you know. He yeah, it says here 210 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:26.960 and I'll just let you guys hear this for yourself. Prosecutors, and I 211 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:30.759 quote and of course it's doing the same dumb thing either way, he says, 212 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:35.200 Uh, mister, he's and I'll read directly from this report. Attorney 213 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:37.480 Mike O'Connell requests that all charges be dropped against Scotti Schffler. He says, 214 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:43.399 quote, mister Schffler's characterization that this was a big misunderstanding is cooperated by the 215 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:46.480 evidence. So you know, this is what needed to happen. We all 216 00:13:46.519 --> 00:13:48.960 know that is the big piece of news. There's no lawsuits going to be 217 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:52.240 filed. Uh. And again this is the right way to end it. 218 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:56.039 But it still just seems like something that should not have happened at all. 219 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:01.559 But what was released earlier today is the audience from the body cam of the 220 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:07.679 officer who was talking to Scottie Scheffler after everything happened, not the guy who 221 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:11.440 lied about being dragged, which, by the way, that is important to 222 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:18.600 know. I mean multiple witnesses that both Steve Romines and the county attorney have 223 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:24.159 spoken to refute any allegation that Scheffler dragged that police officer with his car, 224 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.960 and they would not be moving to drop charges if they felt that that was 225 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.399 true. That's a lie. And it's crazy that it can be a third 226 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:37.480 degree felony and then just nothing, no in between. So clearly law enforcement 227 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:41.519 did something wrong and there'll be no accountability for it other than maybe you know, 228 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:46.000 somebody getting reprimanded. It's just a it's unfortunate, it really is. 229 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:52.679 But again, body language, you know, doesn't always tell every I mean, 230 00:14:52.679 --> 00:14:56.600 it's sometimes it can be misleading. But the video that we did have, 231 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:01.080 because there are some that claim that the actual initial incident, which clearly 232 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.960 you can hear when we play this sound for you, you'll be able to 233 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:07.639 hear for yourself that when they do start talking to him like things, you 234 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:11.120 know. Nonetheless, what I'm trying to say is that even if there was 235 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:15.919 something that that happened initially, which clearly was some level of a situation, 236 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:20.360 the other law enforcement officers that were near the cop that just started beating on 237 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:22.080 his door and trying to rip him out of the car, if they if 238 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:28.080 they if he was dragged by the car and hurt, they would have reacted 239 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:31.519 much differently. Than they did. It was just one dude losing his mind 240 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:37.919 trying to get Scheffler out of the car. So I don't know Scotty Scheffler 241 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:39.320 at all. None of us do. Maybe if you are somebody really well 242 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.559 connected in the golf then you know him a little bit. But he has 243 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:48.120 a reputation of being a very upstanding man with you know, high character, 244 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.759 and that's all anybody has said. And then sure enough, I mean, 245 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:58.480 you hear this, you know this, this back and forth between him and 246 00:15:58.600 --> 00:16:02.360 law enforcement officer, and it proves that, you know, not that he's 247 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:06.279 a perfect human being, because nobody is, but he seems like a very 248 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:11.799 level I mean it just he did everything I think that you would would need 249 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:14.960 to do in order to get the benefit of doubt after this situation to where 250 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:18.200 you could have a conversation and everybody come to the realization that this was just 251 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:22.440 a big misunderstanding. But law enforcement, you know, didn't even want to 252 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:25.519 think about doing that. But again, here's the sound. This was at 253 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:29.759 least earlier this morning my tea time. Yeah, I had to loop all 254 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:33.639 the way around that way. It took me about probably a half hour because 255 00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:36.000 I'm pulling in here the police officer up there told me this is chef the 256 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:37.559 opposite way with the traffic, and then come in. And as I was 257 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:41.639 pulling in, my window is down. An officer told me to stop, 258 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:44.480 and as I was first of all, I did not know that he was 259 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:45.600 a police officer. I thought he was one of the security guards that was 260 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:51.200 mistaken. And as I was pulling by me, he wrote stop stop right 261 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:52.440 there. Why does that matter if he's a security guard or a police officer, 262 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:56.200 because somebody's telling you a stop. Yes, you're right, I should 263 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:59.320 have stopped. I did get a little bit impatient because I'm point late for 264 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:03.640 my tea time, and as he was reaching in the car, he grabbed 265 00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:07.920 my shoulder and hit me like I'm trying to get you to stop right, 266 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:11.559 yes, okay. It seemed to be a little bit over aggressive because the 267 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:17.440 entrance was open, okay, and I pulled a little bit because I was 268 00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:18.519 afraid. I thought he was gonna start hitting me, and I didn't know 269 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:22.200 who he was. He didn't tell me he was a police officer. I 270 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:23.319 didn't always saw was a yellowjacket. I don't know what he was doing. 271 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:27.480 I'd listened well the police officer, so the thing is he's wearing a uniform. 272 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:30.279 Okay. He also was wearing the same jacket that I have on the 273 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:36.480 says police also on that if someone's telling you to stop, no matter who 274 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:40.240 it is, you don't keep going. So what happened is you kept going 275 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:44.240 and you took him with you while he's a pedestrian. Okay, So you 276 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:48.920 took him with your car, yes, and drug him okay, which is 277 00:17:48.960 --> 00:17:52.119 not a good thing right everywhere. That was to make it so to listen 278 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:53.079 to me, so make it even worse. When he asked you to get 279 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:56.000 out of the car, he refused to get out of the car. I 280 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:57.559 still did not was not aware he's a police officer. I was actually looking 281 00:17:57.640 --> 00:18:00.640 out the window of the car to try to find a police officer. I 282 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:04.160 asked, we're all right here, and he was there. Believe me. 283 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:07.319 Sure. We're all wearing yellow vests. So you can see this. If 284 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:11.119 you knew he was a police officer, I would have been much more or 285 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:12.640 less afraid. But panic kind of set in. As you can see. 286 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.960 I'm still shaking because I was afraid. I didn't know who he was. 287 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:19.160 He didn't say police, get out of a car. He just hit me 288 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:22.799 with his flashlight and yelled get the car. So we're wearing a lot of 289 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:27.440 police gears. That's surely signifies that we're leaving me. If I knew he 290 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:30.200 was a police officer, I would have gone out of the car. I 291 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.359 don't know what to tell you other than well, it's a little bit panic 292 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:34.480 trying to get into the golf course. And now I don't know what to 293 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:37.880 do. But let's go back to the first point. Okay, no matter 294 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.400 if you thought he was a police officer or not, somebody have stuff. 295 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:41.559 Why we're wearing yellow vests? Why do you think we're wearing yellow? Best 296 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.240 so you can see us, right, so you can see this. And 297 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:48.200 if somebody tells you to stop, if it's a traffic guard, security guard, 298 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:51.440 anybody, that means you stop at that time, you don't keep going. 299 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:55.240 Sure, Okay, so stuff like this doesn't happen is because you actually 300 00:18:55.240 --> 00:19:00.359 actually hurting him and he's a police officer. Yes, he's got a huge 301 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.960 scrape on his knee. He's getting checked by ems, big Bruce, So 302 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:08.119 I don't I don't know. But for you right now, you're the main 303 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:12.640 question is if you're going to jail and it's up to him. I don't 304 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:18.160 know if I able to speak with him. No, not at he's no, 305 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:26.599 so what I'm gonna do? Yeah? So, I mean again, 306 00:19:26.680 --> 00:19:32.680 that's a long that's a three minute clip there that let you hear you really 307 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:37.799 the aftermath, and I mean one, I guess the biggest takeaway for me 308 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:44.079 was that he was as courteous as you could possibly be to law enforcement regarding 309 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:49.359 the situation. Apologetic claimed it was a misunderstanding. They clearly didn't want to 310 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:56.440 hear and even entertain any scenario that he was confused. They just wanted to 311 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:03.119 I mean, I'll stop myself. I mean, I wasn't gonna say aything 312 00:20:03.160 --> 00:20:07.599 crazy, but like that's just them wanting to abuse authority. I mean. 313 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:14.880 And again, one specific detail that came up towards the end of Steve Romans 314 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:21.480 media Q and A after the charges were officially dropped publicly, was that there's 315 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:25.720 witnesses that all will will that both the county attorney and Romans have talked to 316 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:27.319 that say that that did not happen, like that, that is not what 317 00:20:27.400 --> 00:20:34.240 happened. And you know, he was calmer than I think most people would 318 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:37.480 be, which you know, credit to him. I mean I don't mean, 319 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:42.000 I don't know what I would do in that situation, but this is 320 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:47.720 in this could be I mean, if you really wanted to follow these stories, 321 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:48.880 and this wouldn't be a story. If it's an average Joe, it 322 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.359 doesn't make the news, you don't hear about it. But because it's Scotti 323 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:56.160 Scheffler and we all now at least can see what happened, we heard what 324 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.279 I mean, like, it scares people to think that like that could me. 325 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.960 I would probably still be in in jail. And if I have, 326 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:07.079 you know, maybe a criminal record, if I have any other previous offenses, 327 00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:10.359 maybe I go to prison or something. I mean, I don't know 328 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:15.119 how if that would actually end up being the punishment. But the cop that 329 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:21.480 was talking to him, I mean to say that you should just stop for 330 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:26.079 anybody, no, like that doesn't even make any sense. And for them 331 00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.279 to act as if you there's no way you didn't know that we were cops. 332 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.960 I mean again, I wasn't there. We don't have great video. 333 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:36.960 In fact, the one video we do have is not I mean, it's 334 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:38.960 it's not a great look by any means as far as quality. But that 335 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:42.839 was the first thing everybody said as soon as it became a story that morning 336 00:21:42.920 --> 00:21:47.599 was maybe he didn't know who was hitting his car. Maybe he didn't know 337 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:52.119 who it was because they're just wearing big yellow jackets. Which again, where 338 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:55.480 does it say police. It's got to be on the front, but it's 339 00:21:55.599 --> 00:22:00.839 dark outside, it's pouring down rain, and he didn't say anything on the 340 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:04.079 back that said you know, and I will say this one thing I brought 341 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:07.160 up the day that's happened was even if he didn't know it was a cop, 342 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:12.960 why would you drive and drag someone with you ten to fifteen yards. 343 00:22:14.079 --> 00:22:18.839 Well he didn't, so that's the answer. It didn't happen. So you 344 00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.960 know, this, this easily could have been avoided in every way, and 345 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:27.759 it you know, de escalation is something that law enforcement is supposed to practice, 346 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:32.839 meaning that they're not They shouldn't be out there looking to just arrest people 347 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:37.039 and create situations that don't really need to be created. And that's what this 348 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:40.839 was. Not to say that. You know, even Jeffler admitted, you 349 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:44.960 know, it's a misunderstanding and he was confused, and I mean he was 350 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.039 even apologetic in the video, but I think it was more so apologetic for 351 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:52.599 the misunderstanding and trying to kind of let let law enforcement know why that happened, 352 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:59.039 and they didn't want to hear any of it. And another thing that 353 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:03.000 that I that I wonder is that you know, like I don't know. 354 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.720 I mean, if you if you were an officer there and you saw everything, 355 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:11.519 I guess it would be great if he had your body came on. 356 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:17.720 But why, like you know, I guess it's just the code. But 357 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:21.519 if like four or five cops were there and they knew that this was truly 358 00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:25.079 a big exagger like, wouldn't they come forward to their superior and say, 359 00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:29.319 like this this doesn't need like this doesn't need to happen. And I just 360 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:33.720 I don't know it. It burns me up hearing that officer there, who 361 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.440 again wasn't jealous. Gillis whatever the hell's name is, Like it's up to 362 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:41.640 him now, like he's he's the boss, he's the but he's you answer 363 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.640 to him, like just because he you know, he scraped his knee because 364 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.279 he acted like a fool and was a hot heead he just gets to aside 365 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:52.440 what charges are and who goes to jail. That's a waste of resources. 366 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:56.440 I mean, that's that's that's being a bad cop, is what it is. 367 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.759 And I'm sure'll just you know, well, actually I was gonnay, 368 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:04.119 I'm sure it'll go away and it'll die down. But this sucks all the 369 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:12.599 way around. But what really is just you know, infuriating at times, 370 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:17.880 is that it could have all been avoided. None of this needed to happen. 371 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:22.279 So here was a statement from LMPD about an hour ago. It says, 372 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:26.799 we respect the County Attorney's decision and we'll respect the judicial process. LMPD 373 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.319 will remain focused on our mission to serve the city of Louisville and mitigate violent 374 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:36.359 crime. Videos and documents which were previously unreleased due to the jal judicial process 375 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:41.119 will be made available after appropriate reactions are made. So here's my question. 376 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:45.240 If there's more video that does come out that they did not release, you 377 00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:49.160 know, we'll see. I won't claim that this tells us anything. I 378 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:52.160 know. O'Connell was asked about it and he said that it hadn't been released 379 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:56.200 yet because they were still investigating it. But everybody, it shouldn't sy everybody, 380 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:59.519 but a lot of people, myself included. To be honest with you, 381 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:02.799 I'm the assumption that like, when they do put it out there, 382 00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:06.519 it's gonna make them look even worse because I don't. I mean, again, 383 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.079 what do I know. I know nothing about how an investigation is supposed 384 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:11.720 to work, as far as the exact protocols are supposed to follow, as 385 00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:15.240 far as releasing stuff and all that. But if you felt like you had 386 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:22.119 video evidence that confirmed you were justified in making the arrest and charging him with 387 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.160 what you charged him with, it would be public already. And again I 388 00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:30.240 know I've said this now three times Romans, which by the way, we'll 389 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:33.680 let you hear some sound from him, because he's I mean, clearly he's 390 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:37.480 pretty good at what he does, being a you know, a defense attorney. 391 00:25:37.880 --> 00:25:40.880 But you know, he was pretty fiery about certain things that I know 392 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:42.880 a lot of folks myself included some of it. I kind of agree with 393 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:48.599 what he's saying. But they would not drop this if they had video footage 394 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:52.160 of this guy being like completely dragged ten fifteen yards like he claims he was. 395 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:59.200 And also there are witnesses that have talked to both the county attorney and 396 00:25:59.359 --> 00:26:03.720 to Roman that multiple not just one, that say I saw this and that 397 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:07.720 is not what happened, and like the fact that had it not been Scotti 398 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.920 Scheffler and he not been able to afford someone like Steve Romans, and there 399 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.359 wouldn't be this much attention on it. Somebody could just be sitting in jail 400 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:19.400 for because a cop got his feelings hurt and bumped his knee. Had a 401 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:25.759 boo boo needs a band aid. All right, we'll get our first break 402 00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:27.039 out of the way. Stick with us. It's coffee and Company. We 403 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:33.319 are Philbeth Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety so. Tonight at midnight 404 00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.880 is the deadline for those that are in the NBA Draft to pull their names 405 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:42.680 out and return to college. And Yukon just got some good news. I 406 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:48.559 wasn't even aware that they were expecting a potential return from one of their top 407 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:51.920 big men from last year. What is his name, Karah, Yeah, 408 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:55.920 Alex Caravan. But he's decided to come back to school, which again means 409 00:26:56.200 --> 00:26:57.839 they're gonna be good ones again, they were gonna be good even without him. 410 00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:02.119 But what if they pull off the three P I mean, it just 411 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:03.759 sounds crazy to think that somebody would be able to do that. But then 412 00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.799 again, like, why would they not be the favorite to do that, 413 00:27:07.880 --> 00:27:10.920 you know what I mean, Like they've been so dominant the last couple of 414 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:15.359 years, and as we discussed after they won their second consecutive championship, what 415 00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:22.200 makes them so good is scary because it's not based off of a once in 416 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.519 a lifetime type of talent. They have good players, no doubt about it, 417 00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.279 But I mean it's it's the type I mean they it's the type of 418 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.680 system they run. And I don't even mean like style of play, I 419 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.960 mean just I mean, he finds talented guys, but they don't have to 420 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.200 be top five, top ten NBA lottery prospects. These are guys who are 421 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.799 you know, four star maybe even guys who transferred in from a lower level 422 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:51.559 that you know, really fit what they're looking for as far as having a 423 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.319 type, right, and that's guys that are going to play hard, buy 424 00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.880 in, not worry about individual numbers. And you know, I don't see 425 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.039 you kN Sloan down anytime soon, which is kind of scary. But some 426 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.240 names out there that have yet to make a decision, at least not that 427 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:15.119 I've seen Coleman Hawkins. I think Arthur Koluma. If you remember Arthur Kluma. 428 00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:18.400 He actually started his career creaton was pretty good play last year for Jerome 429 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:22.960 Tang at Kansas State and had another good year. But some guys that have 430 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:26.400 made a decision to come back to school. John L. Davis, the 431 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.359 FAU guard, who again I wasn't and once he committed Arkansas, I just 432 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:30.359 assumed that meant he was not going to go to the NBA. But he 433 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.680 has decided to go to Arkansas and play for John Cala Perry. And there 434 00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:41.039 are some names here that are coming back that it sounds like John Cali Perry 435 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.519 could go get Wooga Poplar the Miami guard. I mean I mentioned Kaluma. 436 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.759 There's a belief that maybe Arkansas would be the school willing to pay the most 437 00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:53.519 for Coleman Hawkins. So you know, we'll see how Cow's team. You 438 00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.759 know, I think his roster will be similar. Actually I don't know. 439 00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:00.839 You know, he wins the off season every single year. Caliperry, right, 440 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:06.279 like he absolutely, you know, he's he's the hype machine and it 441 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:11.279 usually works and for the most part, they're usually pretty good. But if 442 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:15.440 in fact they because they've got another great class and he's landed some good transfers 443 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.519 so far, especially the kid from Tennessee and obviously John El Davis, who 444 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.319 some believe is the number one player that entered the portal in college basketball. 445 00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:26.400 But if they were to add somebody like Coleman Hawkins, John, do you 446 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:32.680 think that the national height would be there for cal at Arkansas like it usually 447 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.119 as in Kentucky, Because I kind of feel like it wouldn't be, but 448 00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:40.960 then again, not on the same level just because it's at Arkansas. Yeah, 449 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.240 I think he'll still get the notoriety that Cali Perry generally gets because he's 450 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:51.799 himself, but just because that he's at a program like Arkansas instead of Kentucky, 451 00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:56.000 naturally, you're just not gonna get the hype. Sure, And I 452 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.640 don't know how real this is. It could just be Arkansas fans trolling. 453 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:06.279 But if they were able to get Jackson Robinson, who, for those that 454 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.519 don't know who that is, he played at BYU for Mark Pope was their 455 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:12.799 best player, best NBA prospect, he was in the draft has now decided 456 00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:17.640 to come back, and Kentucky clearly is believed to be, you know, 457 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:19.440 one of the one of the top choices for him, and I'm sure many 458 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:26.599 people expect him to go there, but apparently Kansas has been involved in Arkansas. 459 00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:32.519 And it is wild to see two guys that played for Pope not I 460 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:34.720 mean, in fact, two guys not only didn't want to play for Pope 461 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:40.519 at Kentucky, they wanted to play for Louisville. One guy visited, you 462 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:42.359 know, even was met at the airport. We all heard about that, 463 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:47.519 and then he went back to BYU and decided to stay there. So if 464 00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:52.079 Jackson Robinson ends up anywhere but Kentucky, I mean that like doesn't mean Mark 465 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.559 Pope's gonna suck. It doesn't mean that, you know, it's a humongous 466 00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:59.359 red flag that he's going to be a bum. But like anybody acting like 467 00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.720 that is normal, and you know, something that you would have expected is 468 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.160 lying like that's to me that would be a head scratcher. And then the 469 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.640 kid last week that has another piece of news that I missed. It wasn't 470 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:15.079 big news, but the kid from North Florida whose name I've forgotten. You 471 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.160 know, Kentucky Tennessee were believed to be the two leaders, and sure enough 472 00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.880 he picked He ended up picking Kentucky. I'm sorry, picked Tennessee over Kentucky. 473 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:27.240 So if Jackson Robinson ends up anywhere but Kentucky, like, that'll just 474 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:30.920 be I mean again, your Kentucky fans don't care, and they still think 475 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:34.279 they're gonna be great. Sure, like you know whatever, not telling you 476 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.799 not to be excited about your team. But this, to me, this 477 00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.640 is the one guy that it's always you know, it's always just been assumed 478 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:44.200 that if he doesn't go to the NBA, he's gonna follow mar Pope and 479 00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.359 if at the last minute he doesn't, it'll just be again a head scratcher. 480 00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:49.319 All right, it is Coffee and Company. We are feel about Thornton's 481 00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.000 here on Sports Talk seven ninety. As you could expect, we spent the 482 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:57.319 majority of the first segment discussing the big news today's charges dropped against Scotti Scheffler, 483 00:31:57.400 --> 00:32:00.039 which is the right thing, but man, it really seems as if 484 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:06.559 this entire thing could have been avoided. We also talked about the door to 485 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:13.200 door salesman and it's a pest control company that they're as aggressive as anybody I've 486 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.759 seen as far as how they train these salesmen to not take no for an 487 00:32:16.759 --> 00:32:22.039 answer, always have a response for anything. And I'm fascinated by it. 488 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:23.519 We had somebody texted and said, Nick, you may not believe this, 489 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:29.039 but I had a buddy who fresh out of college sold vacuum cleaner's door to 490 00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.359 door. All he had to do was sell one a week, and he 491 00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:37.039 was cleaning up based off the commission that he received. These vacuum cleaners were 492 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:43.240 nearly two thousand dollars apiece. Who would buy a two I mean that mean 493 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.319 who would buy a two thousand dollars vacuum cleaner? Is that real? Like, 494 00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:47.519 I mean I'm just reading from the text line, but like at that 495 00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:51.640 point you have to be targeting neighborhoods, yeah, you know, the fire 496 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.079 end and people who just have money to blow at that point, and let 497 00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.640 me let me say something. I know my mother in law does not listen 498 00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:01.119 to this. She bought a vacuum cleaner from somebody who showed up at her 499 00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:05.640 door years ago, and her kids never let her live it down because it 500 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:10.400 was very expensive. I don't remember being two thousand dollars, But like that 501 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:15.599 to me, I just I mean two, I mean how much is a 502 00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:17.440 normal vacuum clim Like? What can this vacuum cleaner do? Can it take 503 00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:22.440 me? To space, like what that price is insane? Also, this 504 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:28.079 text says Nick. Well, this text says Nick. It's not it. 505 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:30.079 There's one that that that text did say Nick. But I'm not going to 506 00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:32.319 read it because it's it's not nice. It's not something I should say on 507 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:36.359 it. It's somebody just because of much different view of this whole Scotti Schefler 508 00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:37.880 thing than me, which they're entitled to. But I can't, you know, 509 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.720 I can't read exactly what it is that you had said. But this 510 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:43.599 person, this other person, made a good point, and that was that 511 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:50.400 why wouldn't the officer who clearly caused the miscommunication, who told Scheffler he could 512 00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:53.680 go, and then the other guy got involved, why didn't he intervene to 513 00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:58.519 say no, I told him he could, he went. He was given 514 00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.720 the green light essentially from me. Why don't they do that? And I 515 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:06.759 don't know the answer of that, but that's a great question. It's a 516 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:14.320 great question. All right. So here's Steve Rowmins on the let's see here, 517 00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:15.800 and there's a lot of clips here, and I want to thank our 518 00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.239 news team, news Radio eight forty WHS for having these available for us to 519 00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.199 play. But Doug, I think This is his opening statement on the charge 520 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:27.559 of being dropped again. This is Steve Rowmines, the defense attorney for Scottie 521 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:31.960 Scheffler. We were pleased that the case was dismissed today. Obviously was dismissed 522 00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:38.840 without prejudice or with prejudice, which was something that we had required. We 523 00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:43.639 were prepared to go forward and litigate this matter. We were also prepared to 524 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:50.960 litigate the case. Civilly lawsuits are paid by the taxpayers. If he prevails 525 00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:55.360 in civil litigation against LMPD, who pays that taxpayers of Louisville. He doesn't 526 00:34:55.400 --> 00:35:00.840 wish the taxpayers to Louisville of Louisville to pay him or whatever occurred. So, 527 00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.599 I mean, that just sounds like something you would say to make your 528 00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:08.159 client look good. But knowing what I know about Scheffler and his reputation and 529 00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:12.280 what I've heard, I feel like he means that, like he just it, 530 00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:15.840 you know, And this is this is probably the clip that yeah, 531 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:20.039 this is from. In fact, this one's probably not going to play either 532 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.599 because it's doing the same thing. But I'll get it fixed. But whenever 533 00:35:24.039 --> 00:35:30.719 Romans was asked about why Scheffler originally, you know kind of agreed to claim 534 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:36.920 that he dragged officer. Officer gillis I mean in which he didn't really do 535 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.760 that. But again this is let me see here, because I'm sure this 536 00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.480 is not going to play correctly. And actually here we go. This might. 537 00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.519 Yeah, Steve, I have to ask you thought the standards that thought 538 00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.480 he made after the vest don't see to prove the line with what you're seeing 539 00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.280 right now, he admits that he got in Piche and went to farm. 540 00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:04.039 No, here's what happens is he is being interrogated after the most stressful situation 541 00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:08.320 of his life, right, and the officer is actually asking him leading questions 542 00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:13.280 and trying to get him to agree with them. Okay, and that's why 543 00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.000 you don't talk to the police, because they are going to try to put 544 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:22.320 words in your mouth. And that's exactly what they did. No, of 545 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.480 course he didn't have to speak, but again, he asked to talk to 546 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:32.599 the officer. He wanted to explain to him what happened. However, they 547 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:38.239 are trying to get him to confess to something that he didn't do, and 548 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:45.400 the video evidence shows he didn't do it. That's why you don't talk to 549 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:50.800 the police. They are not trying to get to what happened. They are 550 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.719 trying to get you to incriminate yourself, and that's what they were trying to 551 00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:59.440 do to him, and he didn't incriminate himself. He continued to show the 552 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:06.239 quality of his character by trying to diffuse the situation. There are multiple eyewitnesses 553 00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:13.400 to the incident, the actual initial contact that I've spoken with. I have 554 00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:17.880 statements from that, the county spoke the prosecutor's office have spoken with that confirm 555 00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:22.159 that he was not dragged. You believe they would have dismissed this case if 556 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:27.280 he was dragged. No, they would not have. That did not happen. 557 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:31.599 And to be fair in all honesty, miscommunication or not, if he 558 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:37.840 dragged a law enforcement officer knowingly or not for ten to fifteen yards as it 559 00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:43.199 was initially put in the police report, he should be charged. Now it 560 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.559 probably can be resolved to where it's not a fell anything, but you know, 561 00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.880 and maybe it in you know, I'm not saying they throw him in 562 00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:54.159 jail, in ruin his life, but like you know that anybody else would 563 00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:58.679 have been charged, misunderstanding or not. He shouldn't get preferential treatment because he's 564 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:01.639 Scottie Scheffler. However, that just didn't happen. And it's a scary thing 565 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:06.519 to think about because this wasn't even that I mean, nobody got hurt. 566 00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:08.760 This wasn't even that big of a deal, and yet they threw felony charges 567 00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:13.199 on him. And if it's a random Joe and the attention's not on their 568 00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.519 case, like Scottie Scheffler's case, that's somebody who you know, doesn't get 569 00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.840 the benefit it out and is going to end up, you know, wrongful. 570 00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:25.039 I mean what he said there at the end about diffusing the situation, 571 00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:30.679 I mean I thought that's what law enforcement was supposed to do, especially when 572 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:35.280 somebody is calm and working with you and trying to explain what had happened and 573 00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.480 being you know, sympathetic apologetic, even if they don't really you know, 574 00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:43.320 like he's I think he's sorry that that guy had his leg hurt, like 575 00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.880 he claimed and needed a band aid and a hug from his mommy. But 576 00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:51.000 like it's not as if he's admitting that he did it. He's claiming, 577 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:52.119 well, I'm sorry, you know, that's what you're saying. I'm sorry. 578 00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:55.840 But and one of the things Steve Roman said that we talked about this 579 00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.440 a few months ago after I think you had gotten pulled over just for a 580 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.840 speeding and that they asked you the reason, like if you knew why you 581 00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.920 got pulled over, because they want you to have that confession exactly, Like 582 00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.239 Steve Romans just laid out, Yeah, and I am somebody you should I 583 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:14.920 think you should be kind to law enforcement. I think you should be. 584 00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.760 But here's something that makes people uncomfortable that are all about you better respect the 585 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.400 police. You don't have to answer their questions. And sometimes they're asking you 586 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.519 things that have nothing to do with anything, and for you to just not 587 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:29.559 answer it doesn't mean you're not you're not that you're not complying and that you're 588 00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:31.719 resisting, you know, like some things they ask is just not you know 589 00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:35.679 where you heading today? None of your damn business where I'm heading? Like 590 00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:37.480 you know what I mean? Like, and you're not asking me because you 591 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.880 care and you want to have a conversation and you want to be friends. 592 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.760 You're doing it because you're trying to incriminate me in some way. You know, 593 00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.719 if possible, I quick break will come back and wrap at the three 594 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.880 o'clock hour here on the other side. Uh oh, Venetti says, the 595 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.800 pest people have infiltrated the mean streets of Saint Matthew's. Oh, they won't 596 00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:59.920 last long there. I used to think I was a pretty piggy eater until 597 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.800 I met John, and I think we both are picky eaters in certain ways. 598 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.119 And I don't eat a ton of fast food, but there's a few. 599 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.639 I'm sure everybody has a restaurant that they understand. There's a lot of 600 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:15.039 hype. People like it, they're big fans of it, but I've just 601 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:19.000 never been into it or never even been there. In one place, I 602 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.719 can tell you that I've never eaten a that I know is popular Chipotle. 603 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.119 You ever been there? Never been there, but you agree like it's a 604 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.280 popular place. People who like it really really like it. Yep. So 605 00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.760 I find this fascinating. But I love it too. So I don't know 606 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:37.360 how this started. But fast food, any food, everything in the world 607 00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:42.519 right now is stupid expensive. Like I feel like if you were going to 608 00:40:42.639 --> 00:40:47.679 go to get a full meal at at a restaurant, fast food restaurant, 609 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.679 I mean, you're not spending less than like ten bucks, are you? 610 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.559 I mean maybe around here, But if you're in a bigger city, like 611 00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.719 you know, big market. Everything's a little more expensive there. But like 612 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:01.960 you're ontown New York City, downtown Chicago, and you go to a fast 613 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.360 food place, and again, you get a full meal, and I'm not 614 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:07.920 talking about like just something off the valume in you in a water, I 615 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.400 mean a full meal. You're probably spending fifteen bucks, not exaggerating. And 616 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.840 Chipotle, I've never been there. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would imagine 617 00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.440 a place like that is more expensive than your standard fast food place. So 618 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:22.159 you're paying more than you ever have. And you know, maybe the cost 619 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:28.519 of the supplies is also impacting restaurants, because apparently Chippotle has been getting a 620 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:31.400 little light on the portions right, not making you as much food as they 621 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.519 used to. But it's also one of those places that makes your food in 622 00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:39.039 front of you. So apparently people in the bigger cities, New York cities 623 00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:44.840 where this some thing started, are going to get Chipotle and holding their phone 624 00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.320 out videoing the person making and I don't know if they're making a threat, 625 00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:51.719 they're you know, claiming they're going to report them to corporate. But I've 626 00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.320 seen a couple of these videos and there's no I mean, they're not really 627 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.079 saying anything. They're just holding their phone and that you can tell they're videoing 628 00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.280 them. And it has led to them getting like nearly double the portion of 629 00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:06.840 what I guess they were previously getting. So according to Alex Friedman, who 630 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:12.320 is a reporter for Let's See Here looks like Tech Stars, She says that 631 00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.960 this is her report. People on social media have been dragging Chipotle so hard 632 00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.760 that allegedly a memo was sent out to Chipotle employees instructing them to fill up 633 00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.480 the bulls as much as possible if someone has their phone out or is filming 634 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:30.920 while ordering. And then somebody, I guess once this became a story a 635 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:35.320 couple of days ago, somebody walked in, had somebody film them as they're 636 00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.199 walking up to the you know, to tell them what they want. And 637 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:40.360 then they show the footage of them right in front of where they're making the 638 00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:45.280 food, and there's you know, they they gave him food that I feel 639 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.960 like I could eat off his meal. I feel like I could eat off 640 00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:54.599 that for three days. So, I mean, if that's true, and 641 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:59.519 like the memo is I mean like real, I mean, isn't that like, 642 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.639 is that for odd? Like you're basically saying, you know, we're 643 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:06.599 skimming people and not giving them what we should. However, you know, 644 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:08.800 if they act like they're gonna make a big deal about it, will cave 645 00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:12.719 and give them, you know what we feel like, we'll keep them from 646 00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:16.159 clowning us on social media. It's funny how there can't just be like a 647 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:19.880 happy medium. You have to either give them not enough or give them way 648 00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.559 too much. Well, you know, at certain places. I only know 649 00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:27.000 this because I had a buddy in high school that worked at Arby's and a 650 00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:30.239 lot of times, you know, depending on like how the roast beef is, 651 00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:36.559 I guess, positioned on your sandwich, it can look really really smaller. 652 00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:37.280 It can look like you got a bunch right, So if you just 653 00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.760 kind of have it, like you can put roast beef on a sandwich in 654 00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.760 a certain way to make it look as if like it's fallen off because there's 655 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.800 so much of it, when in fact, you know, it's probably the 656 00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.599 same. So I only know that, and I don't know if they still 657 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.320 do this or not, but it used to be a weight thing. You 658 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.119 would grab a certain amount of roast beef and it would be weighed and that 659 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.199 way you knew, no matter what it looks like, they're getting the same 660 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:01.719 amount. But you know, I'm sure at times it's a little bit more 661 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.559 than what you're supposed to give in a little bit less. But man, 662 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:12.239 like, everything's expensive but the one and because Americans, for the most part, 663 00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:15.239 a lot of us are so fat. Like that's what you hear people 664 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.000 complaining about more than anything, right, Like, everything is way more expensive, 665 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.239 but fast food. I mean he used to be able to, like, 666 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.760 I mean, if I go and get and we never do this, 667 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:28.960 but we did get Taco bell as a family in the drive through not that 668 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:32.360 long ago. And I mean, I'm pretty sure it costs like thirty three 669 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:37.679 dollars, which is insane. And you know, it's not much cheaper to 670 00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.840 buy groceries and need at home, but at least it's healthier. Right, 671 00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:44.880 don't go anywhere. We got two hours left. It is coffee and Company. 672 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:51.519 We are fueled by Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety