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It's time to talks boys, time
Forcus show. You hear this song on

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the radio fast let Me Get that
Potograph? Sports Talk Radio starting now What's

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Up Everybody? And welcomed episode one
hundred and eighty nine of Let Me Get

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That Potograph? As always, My
name is True or DH and joining me

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my co host Scott Rapp before what
up, dude? What's going on?

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Drew? Oh, not too much, man, just adjusting the summer,

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you know what, that is a
huge, huge adjustment, Yes, especially

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when you work from home, you
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oh, yeah, no, I've
yeah, I've been doing that forever and

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the um you know. But what
threw me off is we have you know,

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all this, you know, it's
getting warm, hot and humid.

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And I wound up doing a men's
league set of soccer games on Sunday night,

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nice and it was like fifty five
and raining and got to the port

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like I couldn't even feel my fingers
for a little while, and I'm like

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wait, like what, oh,
I know we have actually on my computer

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right now it even says a near
record low for our temperature today. It's

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it's it's it's a weird, dear, weird weather right now. It is

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absolutely crazy. And then last night
had a game and it was like mid

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sixties. It was fine, but
humid as hell. So I'm you know,

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you know, sweating my ass off
out there. Yeah, it was

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just it's one of those things that's
like, yeah, this is this is

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Chicago. Yeah, I'm just adjusting. We've got we've got travel ball amping

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up Travel Baseball. And then Jude
made All Stars, so we've got All

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Star practice three days a week now. And then with that combined with him

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being at home twenty four to seven
now instead of having the day to knock

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stuff out, just a big adjustment
week for me. Oh, I know,

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I know, I got the got
the same issue. I got the

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you know, one in summer school
and one doing it. This is actually

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really cool camp for uh, you
know, anybody's looking for a camp idea.

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It's a week long NERF gun camp. Nice. Yeah. So my

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son and a couple of guys from
a soccer team, and then there's some

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guys that you know, they're you
know, we're in class with them that

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we're doing this this week. So
it's all week nine to twelve. They

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haven't separated by age and it's all, you know, it's all just a

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nerf gun battle. Adults allowed to
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they set up they took that.
They actually took the indoor turf soccer field

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at the rec center here and converted
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things and kind of like paintballs if
it's a nerf guns. Yeah, so

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let's dive into uh, let's dive
into our show today. We've got a

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couple of pretty interesting things movers and
shakers coming up later, a possible load

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of box and a couple of updates
for you, and a really funny email

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to start the show, Scott.
But let's start it off with an update

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on the Panini amer burglar break in. You know, everyone's heard about it.

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It's been all over to the news
Panini was broken into. No one

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really knew what was taken at the
time. Now we have a little bit

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clear idea of what has been stolen. Have you gotten a chance to see

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this yet? I have not,
so this is new to me. All

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right. Yeah, I've been unfortunately
tied up over the last couple of weeks

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with well this just came out stock
they just they just reported and it is

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reported that there's still no arrest made
um and and it's an unknown number of

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people that did break in obviously since
they bypass security and apparently cameras too.

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Um. They do know that it
took place sometime between Friday, May twenty

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six in the afternoon of Sunday May
twenty eight, holiday weekend. That's a

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pretty large large gap there. But
a little update on what was actually stolen.

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There was four storage servers, valued
at a total of sixty grand,

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and then they had multiple data storage
drives and shells. An additional electronic equipment

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worth more than a hundred grand.
Were also a list of items stolen.

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They also say that there were some
cards stolen, but they did not say

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what those cards were. We'll talk
on that in just a moment, because

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that's the most interesting to me.
The walls twelve thousand dollars in damage,

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multiple sets of office keys, two
sets of keys for a Mercedes sprinter van,

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and a reciprocating saw we're also stolen. And talking with a computer export

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Sports Collectors Daily who spoke with this
computer expert said, there after the data

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one, after looking at everything that's
stolen, and here in that list,

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you know, quite a big break
in, but looks like it's a majority

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going after data. Yeah, that
seems like it's to me now. It

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was probably the cards that were stolen. You know, they might have mock

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ups. Man, Well they could
have been mock ups, but could but

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they could have also been uh you
know, ones that belonged to the Panini

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employees that just got on their desk. Yeah. I was about to say,

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just play cards. Yeah, shit
like that. That's what them is.

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The card stuff is nothing. So
but they stole the keys to that

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Mercedes sprinter van, but doesn't say
anything about them stealing the van. No,

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they did not steal the van.
They stole the keys and they had

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they said two sets of keys.
So typically a car will come with two

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sets of keys. No, two
office keys, two office He's sorry,

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I thought it's I thought it said. I thought you said two keys.

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Oh no, yes, it is
actually multiple sets of office keys, two

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sets of keys for a sprinter van. Andicating saw so somewhere. So I

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don't know what is Pannini just waiting
for somebody to come and try to drive

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off in that van knowing that both
sets of keys are you know, are

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there the interesting one is or reciprocating
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wall on the way, I don't
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the What was that even doing?
What was that even doing in the office

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to begin with? I know,
I know that that's a good question.

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Yeah, that's a weird one.
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of consequence. They were definitely after
data, which is kind of what we

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thought initially. You know, we
knew there weren't any you know, redemption

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cards or anything like that people were
complaining about, and it would just you

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know, I get that. And
now it did say storage servers, which

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means that you know, and if
you notice their website didn't go down,

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you know, just foam lines you
know and all that stuff. They probably

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just did some damage. They cut
up a bunch of equipment and things like

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that. But UM, that just
tells me that, you know, most

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of their stuff probably is in the
cloud, and the servers are probably there

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just for you know, for data
backup and you know, emergency use,

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which obviously they don't have anymore,
but it probably probably is storing a you

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know, a ton of information about
their customers. Um, it probably doesn't

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have their proprietary information they designs things
like that. That's very valuable information,

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true, but it's tough to use
that, you know, it's tough.

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It's tough to take that to another
company, you know. Yeah. But

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the customer data, on the other
hand, now, the good news is

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they most likely if they are compliant
with the payment processing industry, as they

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should be, You're not going to
get full credit card numbers on that server,

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right, Um, you're not going
to have so security numbers because Panini

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does not collect those. You're basically
going to have names, addresses, and

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phone numbers, which I mean for
most people is already Yeah, it's already

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out there. Yeah. So as
far as the data theft, you know,

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that's not the biggest thing the unless, of course they're looking for employee

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data, right because you know,
Panini has got thousands and you know,

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thousands of employees or have had thousands
of employees over the years that have come

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and go, and if they if
their employment records were being kept on those

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data servers, then you would have
social security numbers and you know, information

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that you would need. So hopefully
they are not being stored there. Yeah.

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Yeah, so well, you know, we'll see. I was never

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a Panini employee. But I guess
if you were a Panini employee at one

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point in time and you know,
Panini has reached out to you and said,

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hey, there was a theft of
data that involved your information, Yeah,

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let us know. That would be
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to have out there because then we
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of those servers. Right well,
yeah, that that's actually a good one.

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I hadn't thought about that. Um. But yeah, so, like

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I said before, no arrests have
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that early early damage report that resulted
in nearly two hundred grand and property loss

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and damage. But like I said, especially with the cards, the fact

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that they didn't even give a number
attached to the cards, where they attached

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a number to everything else that was
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either mock up stuff or like you
said, going through the offices obviously or

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at a card company there's gonna be
cards displayed, so you know, somewhere,

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person's desk out there somewhere, so
cards like that, things like that

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that was stolen along with like we
said, mostly data. But wanted to

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give you guys an update on that
real quick, as you know, interesting

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story to follow. It'll be I
don't know if we'll ever see a rest

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being made in this, but we'll
see what happens. One to give you

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guys an update on what exactly was
stolen from Pannini. But Scott, let's

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move on now to something a little
more Well. It's hilarious, but it's

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also I feel bad for the people
that bought into it, because you know,

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we had so many new hobbyists that
got into the hobby when these videos

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and this shitty ass marketing camp started
all over the internet. But my god,

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Eric Michael and major league profits.
Oh boy, do you know what

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this guy reminds me of? What
back in the eighties and nineties? No,

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well, no, no, no. Aside from that, back in

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the eighties and nineties, there was
a great way to make some money.

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And what you would do is you
would put an ad in a newspaper,

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okay, and you would say,
hey, send you know, I'm gonna

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tell you how to make money without
ever doing anything. You send one dollar

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or five dollars in a self addressed
stamped envelope to whatever address, and then

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when somebody would send the money in
the envelope. What you would do is

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you would put a letter in that
envelope that says, here's how you make

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money. You put an ad in
the newspaper and you say, send five

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dollars, you know, learn how
to make money. You send five dollars

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and a self address, stamp,
pedal too, whatever address you want,

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and people will send you money.
So this reminds me exactly of that.

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Yes, that that I didn't you
know, I remember those who doesn't if

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you grew up in that era.
But yeah, dead on, dead on,

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Yeah, And I never I never
understood the whole thing with guys like

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like Eric Michael and major league profits, you know, selling all this in

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because they look the hobby is so
open. Yeah, there are so many

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guys that will tell you better information
than what he's probably giving you. Going

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to a group and in one post
where someone asked a question and it's a

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good group where there's actual interaction and
not trolls. Learn more than this dude.

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And for those that are unaware,
he sold a system on his quote

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unquote system on how to make money
like big money in major league profits,

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in the sports car industry. Yeah, and I can tell you, look,

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I got a great system for it
too. I can tell you how

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you with in sports car. In
one day you can have one hundred thousand

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dollars sitting in your bank account,
Drew, Right now, I could say

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exactly how to do it. I
want to know. I know, all

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right, for starters, you start
with a million dollars. Okay, you

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go out and you spend nine hundred
thousand dollars of that on sports cards,

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and when you are done, at
the end of the day, you will

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have one hundred thousand dollars in your
bank account. I'm doing it. That's

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how you do it. That is
how you do it. You know.

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It's a same look. I can
tell you the same thing, how to

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win a how to have one hundred
thousand dollars in your bank account by going

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to the casino. Right, you
start getting a million dollars and you take

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nine hundred thousand dollars yet to the
casino, and at the end of the

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day you will have one hundred thousand
dollars in your bank account. So so

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the guys, we're joking about it
now. But the reason we bring Eric

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Michael and his program up now is
because he sent out an email recently and

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this might be one of the funniest
emails in the world. The subject is

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I fucked up blank, and then
he inserts the name of the person that

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he's writing too. Is this is
obviously either a chap gpt apology like a

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jaw apology, or this is just
a canned response. He says that he

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let them down. I'm sure you
remember me. I'm the guy that spams

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the shit out of everything with my
ads. That's not carephrasing. Of course,

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he's gonna say, well, this
has been tough for me to say,

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but for the last year I hired
someone to write my emails for me.

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The emails were your daily subscription where
he gave you advice. It was

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someone pretending to be me, not
actually me. Not anymore, though,

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I will be personally writing every email
from here on out. Wow, amazing.

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I'm going to make a monumental effort
to show you all the guys to

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reel me. And because I've never
actually showed my true self to social media,

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shocker. I love to go out, gamble, hang out with women,

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travel, etc. And I'm sure
some of you reading this right now

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it won't like me and we'll subscribe. However, a lot of you are

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going to enjoy how real I'm about
to get. I'm gonna take you into

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the life of a twenty six year
old entrepreneur and teach you how to make

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and teach you how to make twenty
thousand dollars plus and sorry for and as

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a sorry for deceiving you, I
made a free training. It's totally free.

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There is nothing for sale. I
made this just to get back to

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all you guys, so it probably
see my face a million times on social

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media a bunch of other bullshit.
This training has a Google doc in a

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ten minute video. I'm looking forward
to showing you that real me and then

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signed Eric McMichael. You left out
the best part. Yeah, because the

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training shows you how to make money
with cards from the eighties and nineties.

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Yeah, because I'm sure a lot
of you have old cards and you're wondering

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what to do with them. All
right, So here's here's look. You

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want to make money with all the
junk wax eric cards in the eighties and

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nineties. And I'm not talking about
the you know, the big rookies.

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I'm not talking about like Jordan.
Yeah. You do. What you do

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is you got a catalog all of
them at Beckett book value, yes,

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and you donate them to a children's
hospital, yep. And you take the

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tax right off for the full book
value one thousand percent. That is the

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only way to make money. Yes. And unless he's sitting there time,

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I'm not going to click on any
any link this guy has to give him

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any type of engagement on his social
media platforms, because, like I said,

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I think this stuff is pathetic and
stupid, but it's funny how his

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training that's free is eighties and nineties
bullshit that there's literally no way. I

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mean, look, I mean,
I'm not going to get into it now,

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but it's the easiest and the lowest
hanging fruit and the cheapest and most

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bullshit way. I mean talk about
making money, you're talking about making a

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couple of bucks, like, And
that's the free training. And of course

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it's obviously in their email to get
people to continue to his service. And

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now you're going to be getting the
real stuff. You haven't been making money

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from me before, but you subscribe, so now the real stuff's coming liked.

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And here's and here's the thing.
I'm wondering if anybody has actually tried

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to reach out to him before and
I'm not talking about like you or I

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to have him on a show talk
about or whatever. I'm talking about like

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somebody who is a paid subscriber who
has a question. Yeah, and you

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know does he does he respond to
those questions? Is he there for you?

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I'm sure air quotes he did before, but well, exactly, Yeah,

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I'm curious because you can and anything
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can learn, like you said,
by going through reputable you know, chat

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groups, blowout forums. You can
go through in the hobby, Yeah,

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you can. You can go go
through all one hundred and eighty nine episodes

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of let Me Get That photographs.
You're gonna learn a t to a card

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show, talk to dealers, Yeah, go to a card show or god

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forbid you just shoot one of us
a yeah, because you know what we

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answer, right, people? People
reach out to me every day. Yeah,

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and guess what they get an answer? Yeah. You know, we're

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part of that group that's always been
open and helpful and wanted to help you.

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Look, we want people to succeed
because I look, not everybody is

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going to succeed. People are going
to screw up. Be willing to do

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it, but it's not because we're
not rooting for you exactly. You know,

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we we're giving you the tools that
you need. But some people just

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don't do it. And that's sorry. It Look, it's effective life,

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you know. Yeah. Uh,
somebody's got to ask me if I want

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fries with that. It's not gonna
be It's not gonna be me, But

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somebody has to do it. Yeah. Um. Although now now machines are

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doing it, so it's just right. Yeah, but look, people are

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people are gonna help you. You
know, some of the some of the

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biggest names in the hobby will respond
to emails and text measures and you know,

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dms and things like that and give
you advice. Yeah. And a

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lot of people and a lot of
people like I mean, I'll shout out

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one who does a great job at
this card collector too. On Instagram.

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He has so many great videos of
him at shows doing deals and literally videos

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of him sitting down talking to you
and where and he'll put the videos up

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when people ask him a question on
how do you figure out what you should

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buy? How do you judge this? He gives good advice and while the

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players and the people that he's talking
about might not be what you're looking for

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the knowledge is there to implement it
your own way, and so all of

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this stuff is free. All of
this stuff is available. Is there's a

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snake who will say salesman and a
half. But this email was just too

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funny to me because, first of
all, how many times, I mean,

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does this guy in this email praise
himself like it's hilarious, Like I'm

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gonna take you into the life of
a twenty six year old singles seven's figure

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entrepreneur and honestly, it's gonna be
wild, Like dude, it's gonna talk

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like a twenty six year old man. It's gonna be the list. But

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here's yo. But yeah, I'd
love to go out gamble women, travel,

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okat me? Come on, it's
a joke. It's a total joke.

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Like if that's the real hymn awesome, that's awesome. You want to

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be authentic for once good, I'm
glad you're actually gonna be authentic gave him

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though I still don't believe you.
But you're apologizing to people and putting yourself

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up. It's like, as he
was writing this, he had to remind

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himself, wait, no, I'm
awesome. I'm awesome, bro, Like

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hold on, I know I'm a
piece of shit, but no, no,

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no, I'm awesome. And it's
like they get over yourself. It's

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look, this is a The email
was a straight up ego trip. It

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was you know, it was solely
out there to stroke his own ego,

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yes and whether or not. And
maybe it look, maybe he had somebody

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writing those emails and maybe they're not
writing emails anymore because nobody was given him

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money. Yeah more, and he
had to fire the guy because he couldn't

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afford him. Yeah. Um,
you know, he made his email because

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whoever it was that was writing those
emails was about to say, I'm gonna

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come out and tell everybody that you're
a fucking liar. Otherwise there's no reason

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for him to write this. He
just changes up his content and shifts focused

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and it seems like everything was normal. But the only reason you write this

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email is because that dude said,
nah, bro, like you fucked me

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over, I'm gonna expose you for
who the fraud you are. And so

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he had to do damage control so
it didn't hurt if the dude did it,

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so let me so he you know, supposedly has made millions of dollars

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dealing in cards. Yeah, but
I don't know anybody. And I dude,

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I know as I mean, yeah, I don't know anybody that has

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ever done a deal with this guy. No. You know the funny thing

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me either, I don't know.
Look, you and I know some of

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the biggest names in the hobby easily. And I'm not I'm not saying that

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to you know, not Rag or
stroke On Eager or whatever. I'm saying

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that because of all of the people
that we know, yeah, and that

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we I don't know a single one
that has ever dealt with him. Now,

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every everyone that I've seen always laughs
about the videos and laughs about the

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class like anytime the names brought up. It's like kind of a running joke

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between that. Like people that I
know in the hobby, like when we

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pull these videos up. I don't
know. I can't tell you how many

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people I work with these at collect
cons and other shows that when those videos

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come up, they just laugh about
him. I've never seen a deal or

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sorry, oh yeah, man,
I do tons of deals with that guy

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all the time. So if he's
making so if he's you know, if

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he's making seven figures in the industry, who's he doing who's he dealing with?

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Yeah, I know, right,
who knows? That's I mean,

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that's a legit question. It is
it is who? I mean, how

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much truth is there behind it?
Because i mean, look, odds are

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between the two of us we would
have known at least one one, Yeah,

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who did who has done a deal
with him? And I'm not talking

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about like, you know, a
five dollars eBay transaction. I'm talking about

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a yeah, ten, twenty thousand
dollars card you know exactly, Yes,

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a big number mahomes contenders auto you
know something big, right, Not a

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single one. Don't know a single
one. Nope, not one at all.

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So I'm trying to figure out,
you know, how much of how

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much of his backstory is even Yeah, I know it's even true. Well

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that's That's the other thing is,
you know, if I were to ever

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in a million years think about doing
some type of you know, training or

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you know, helping program or something
like that, I would want to show

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that, you know what I mean, And that's what you would want to

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show, Like you would think that
the social media accounts and stuff like that

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that are equated to this you know
account and this push would be showing deals

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like that being done. Yeah,
not showing how they were done. Maybe

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not showing what they were sold for, because you're trying to sell a system

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of you know, taking people's money
so they can watch you, you know,

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do deals. But at least show
the deals, like that's what I

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would be doing. That's how you
would market it, instead of you walking

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around holding a camera on a fucking
twenty five cent budget while you're taking your

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dog for a shit talking about I'm
gonna make you twenty thousand dollars a month

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taking sports cards. Yeah, there's
nothing though, I mean, you know,

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if you or I decided to do
this and we all of a sudden

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started coming up with these videos.
Look, we have an entire we have

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an entire library of you know,
between the podcast, between you know,

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personal videos that you know, we've
posted over the years, between breaks,

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between things that we've bought and sold
that have been posted you know, online

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for years. Yes, we have
all of that exactly, and you would

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showcase that. And that's that's what's
interesting to man. And this guy seems

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to have just come out of nowhere. Yeah, and we all laugh at

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him, everybody, you know,
we all know who he is now.

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But it's not because you know,
hey, we've seen him around. He's

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been at all the big shows and
right you know he's doing deals with uh

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uh, you know with Ken Golden
and Shine and you know, and and

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Ryan over a you know, card
collector. And it's like, come on,

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no, no, not happening.
No we I mean, like I

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said, I have before this,
I've never heard of the guy. Yeah,

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oh yeah in twenty seventeen, no
fucking clue. Yeah, no clue

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said, I have no idea.
So like, hey, anybody ever done

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business with this guy before? You
know, reach out, you signed up

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for the service or something, because
I mean back then went in the boom

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when a lot of new collectors and
we have so many new listeners from that

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era, and thank you guys for
joining us on the adventure. Um,

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you know that he pushed that stuff
hard. And I'm sure a lot of

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people that got into the hobby probably
did sign up for this. It would

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not doubt and I would not be
surprised between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one

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if he didn't have a pretty big
influx of people signing up this program.

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Well let me no, no,
that's it. Well, I don't want

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to know that. I mean,
look, I'm sure there's a ton of

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people out there that have signed up
for it, they've paid for it and

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all that kind of stuff. What
I want to know is if anybody's gonna

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deal with him. Yes, I
don't know. Guys. Look, if

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you were out there and you you've
bought a card from him, you sold

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a card to him through him,
anything, anything, whax, memorabilia,

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anything, reach out let us know. Yes, I would love to know

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the answer to that because because I
know, I know, I'm just curious.

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Ya, I don't know anybody either. But anyway, guys, um

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I will post the email on our
social media account this week so you can

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read it, because it really is
one of the funniest things I've ever I've

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read in a long time. But
quite a funny apology from Eric Michael and

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Major League Profits. So there's the
Comedy Corner section of this week's show scaling.

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Oh no, no, no,
no, no, no, that's

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no. The comedy Corner is now
a comedy circle. Yeah, we don't

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have no edges. We're not stopping
and it is going to roll in because

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the next thing, the next segment
is got some humor in it. Yeah,

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if you're into sad humor and pathetic. Yeah, um, but it

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is something that you know, we
can just face palm and scratch our heads

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too and look at and and sort
of laugh at because, yeah, fanatics,

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mister Ruben, what are you doing? Oh man? This I honestly,

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this could not have gone any worse
for them. No, of course,

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what we're talking about is Michael Ruben
ripping a box of Dynasty Baseball Live

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YEP on video and pulling the biggest
chase card in the product where Antoine Griesman,

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the Athletico Madrid French national team soccer
player, that was his box.

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They were opening it together and he
gave he gifted this box to this famous

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soccer player to make this amazing content
online. And yeah, the Jackie Robinson

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cut autos pulled, and then the
other card. Did you see the other

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card too? I don't even see
it. No, I stopped at the

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Jackie Robinsons and the other card was
just a the other car shitty old trout

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dual game used relic auto out of
twenty five. Okay, yeah, because

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you know the rest of us are
pulling. You know, Greg Maddox relic

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auto to twenty five and I don't
know, Mike Trout Game used toilet paper

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or something like that. Actually,
that would probably be worth good money.

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So, I mean, there were
so many problems with this man, Like

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besides that, he pulls this Jackie
Robinson. Okay, I could see that

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possibly happening because it's a dynasty and
it's so low print run. But there

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was no rapping on the outside of
the box when they opened the box,

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and it can if anything, normally
when they do videos like to make that

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really cool digital effect of ripping open
the box, cutting open that seal to

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show you this is a sealed box. We're ripping that seal. Nope,

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this one wasn't Griesman as I have
a big one. I'm sure of it.

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Before he opens the box, off
camera, tops President Dave Lyoner says

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Jackie, and then they go to
his reaction and it's the funniest and fakest

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looking surprise I've ever seen in my
life. He kind of acts like he's

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fooled, but he literally says Jackie
when he cannot see anything whatsoever, and

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then they pull the Jackie Robinson cut
at out. This is pathetic. So

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I have a couple of differenteries on
what this could possibly be. All right,

409
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:08.720
this could be a complete set up
and that was never in the product

410
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:11.640
and they just put together a box
so they can open it with Greeseman,

411
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:18.799
right and do that. Or it
is possible that this video was a recreation

412
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:25.119
of you know about you know,
like Griesman was sitting there opening boxes with

413
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:27.680
you know, with Michael Rubbin and
that you know, maybe he opened ten

414
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:33.400
boxes, right, and these were
the two best cards that came out of

415
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.240
those ten boxes, and they decided
to create a video, yeah, to

416
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:41.799
showcase that. And it's just it
now, they should have said it's a

417
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.839
recreation. Yes, that's the funniest
thing. The funniest thing about this is

418
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.480
Michael Rubin putting it on his personal
social and thinking that this was a good

419
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.119
idea. That's the funniest thing to
me about all this, exactly. And

420
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:56.200
that's and that's the thing. You
have the biggest card in the product being

421
00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.160
pulled by the guy that owns the
company. Wh you're there and you hand

422
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:04.960
him the box. Yeah, and
it's unsealed, which, like like you

423
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:07.880
said, makes me think, you
know, possibly it is a recreation,

424
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:14.160
but tops needs honestly, and the
only way that this is going to happen

425
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.160
is if there's more of an upper
war. But Tops needs to put out

426
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:22.200
the full video. Tops need to
show you more more footage showing you that

427
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:27.640
this was one legit because look like, do I believe backyard breaks get stuff

428
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:32.160
from Panini? Absolutely not. Like
I don't think they get loaded boxes.

429
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:36.880
I think it's that I know a
lot of distributors that go through them.

430
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.720
I don't believe that conspiracy theory for
a second. But do I believe that

431
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:45.839
this was planted and planned by Tops
one thousand percent? And they're talking about

432
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:51.119
all this new marketing that they're gonna
do and all this new type of stuff.

433
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.000
Obviously this is gonna have a hand
in it. This is not how

434
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:59.359
you start out, guys, this
is bad. Well this is the but

435
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.400
this is the thing. And like
I said, if this is a recreation,

436
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:07.240
because you know, Griesman was sitting
there opening a case. Yeah you

437
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:08.359
know of it? I think what
dynasties? What a five box case?

438
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.240
Think it mighty yeah something? Yes? Yeah, I think so maybe opened

439
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:15.680
a couple of cases and these were
the best two cards, and they decided

440
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.119
to create a you know what's referred
to as a dramatization of him rip you

441
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.880
know, opening that and that's fun. Nothing wrong with that, Yeah,

442
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.079
nothing wrong with that, if that's
the case. But the way that the

443
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:29.960
video made it look is it made
it look like the whole thing was rigged.

444
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.720
The Jackie was never in one of
the boxes to begin with, Yeah,

445
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.359
and they just you know, kind
of threw it in there. Absolutely

446
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:41.279
looked like Michael Rubin hands him the
most loaded box in the product and he

447
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.240
just opens it right up and being
bang boom exactly. Now here's what else

448
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.920
I want to see. I don't
want to see a photo of Anton Griesman

449
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:53.640
sitting on his couch holding that Jackie
Robinson cut auto. Yeah, because if

450
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.599
suppose, if that, you know
that, if that box was supposedly for

451
00:31:56.880 --> 00:32:01.119
Anton, right, he should have
taken home the cards. Oh one he

452
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:05.880
better have, I know. So
I would love to see I would love

453
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.000
to see Anton Griesman sitting on his
couch or sitting by I'm sure he's got

454
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:13.559
a pool, um sitting by the
pool or a sauna or no no no

455
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.720
no wait, no no sorry,
don't bring no sauna, no steamer um,

456
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.720
you know, just kind of relax
or in the middle of in the

457
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.920
middle of the pitch. Yeah,
you know that's Jackie out. Yeah,

458
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.039
sitting in front of your locker or
something like that. Just you know,

459
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.799
take a picture of you hold the
jackiet. Yeah that's all I want to

460
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:31.759
see. Yeah, yeah, I
agree, I agree, But I really

461
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:36.920
think Tops needs to do something about
this, because, like I said,

462
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:44.960
they're they're talking constantly about ramping up
marketing heavily and you getting athletes more involved

463
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.519
in all this type of stuff.
Well, that's great, and if you

464
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:52.000
want to showcase the type of hits
that can be in a product, that's

465
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.319
awesome, but you've got to do
it transparently. You can't make videos like

466
00:32:55.440 --> 00:33:00.960
this. You can't make stuff that
literally looks like a fucking damn on one

467
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:06.039
of the most high end products you
make with the chase card of the entire

468
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:10.839
product like that. You can't think
the hobby is that stupid. You've got

469
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:15.079
to have people that tell you how
this got passed. Michael Rubin had to

470
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:19.880
have been bored and sitting at home
and having someone edit this. But how

471
00:33:20.440 --> 00:33:23.079
whoever was editing or anyone that saw
it said bro no, no, no,

472
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:27.359
no, no, you can't cannot
put this out is beyond me.

473
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.119
And kind of worries him. Honestly, somebody, Yeah the I mean,

474
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:37.759
is he surrounded by yes men.
That's nobody's got the cajones to say,

475
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.720
yeah, this is not a good
idea. We probably don't want to do

476
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.359
this. Yeah, like you have
to preview your video before you post it,

477
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.599
especially a company like that. How
can in the world can anyone look

478
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.839
at that video and not say,
this is supposed to make us look good?

479
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:58.000
Yeah, like what what this is
kidding me? Yeah, this has

480
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:01.039
bad idea written all over it.
Yeah, this is and it was a

481
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:04.880
bad idea. This is a this
is dude, this is a worse idea

482
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.760
than Tomacco. Yeah, right there
you go. You know, it's still

483
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.760
it's like I just don't know,
Um, they need to come out with

484
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:15.519
with a statement or something. I
want to see, Like I want to

485
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:21.199
see Griesman with that card somewhere that's
not in that building. I'll feel better

486
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.039
about it if, you know,
if he really does have it sort of

487
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:29.079
not not completely better, but I
would still you know, they can feel

488
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:31.039
I don't know, ten percent better, But Tops really doesn't need to come

489
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:36.119
out and say something, you know, either release the unedited video, you

490
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.840
know, show like two cases being
opened. And then but look, even

491
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:42.599
if they even if you're sitting there
ripping two cases, there's still going to

492
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:44.519
be the people out there that said, oh, well they knew what was

493
00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:46.519
in that case, right, yeah, you know, oh yeah, So

494
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.760
you're never gonna You're never gonna please
everybody. No, but it's not like

495
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.199
there's not a shortage of damn Dynasty
hits that are amazing that aren't the Chase

496
00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:58.000
hit, you know what I mean. There's so many awesome cards in that

497
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:04.239
set. Almost everyone's awesome, like
you could have but we're talking about Jackie

498
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.920
Robinson. No, I know,
I know, you know the I think

499
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.599
the only thing that would have been
the only thing that I think would top

500
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.440
that would be like a Babe Ruth
cut auto. And and even that is

501
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.599
hard. I mean, that's that's
tough. Yeah, No, that that's

502
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.960
tough to come by and worth quite
a bit of money. Yes, speaking

503
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:27.480
of money, yes, we need
some. We'll be back after this break,

504
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:34.239
and we're back. Thanks for putting
up with the advertising. Now we're

505
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.480
bringing back again. Yes, ladies
and gentlemen. The segments was taking the

506
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:43.159
nation by storm. It's movers and
shakers. There you go, Hey,

507
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.320
I even like that. You know, I think the nation by storm is

508
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.719
catching on. I like that.
I know. Look, you've been doing

509
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:50.960
it. Look you've been doing it
for years. You were doing that before

510
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:57.639
I got here, and you know
it's yeah, it's it's ingrained. Um.

511
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:01.280
So I'm gonna start it off this
week. Yes, and I'm gonna

512
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:06.880
stick with something that I that I
know and I love and I but I

513
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.760
don't like this move with this player. But I'm still going to call it

514
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.599
a mover and shaker because it's going
to be positive for the hobby. All

515
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:21.199
Right. I am talking about Jude
Bellingham leaving leaving Bruce Adortmunds, which we

516
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:22.840
all knew was going to happen.
The question is where is he going to

517
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:28.000
go? And we found out this
week he is going to be going to

518
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.840
Real Madrid, which I'm not a
fan of the team, not at all,

519
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:37.840
um, but they are one of
the biggest clubs in the world.

520
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:44.960
They have one of the you know, they're their top five worldwide as far

521
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:50.800
as following goes easily. Yeah,
and he is going to walk on to

522
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.199
a team that is going to be
in need of help, especially since Kareem

523
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:57.760
Benzema has left. UM they lost
a couple of guys too, and he's

524
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:01.159
you know, Bellingham has proven this
year that you know, he is the

525
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:04.840
star that everybody thought he was going
to be, you know, when he

526
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.320
came into the scene a couple of
years ago. So I think it's great

527
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:14.559
for the hobby. I think anybody
who is sitting on Jude Bellingham rookie cards

528
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:19.800
from the twenty one twenty two season
is going to be pleasantly surprised as to

529
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.719
you know, what happens with them
when he starts playing at Real and Drid

530
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:27.880
this coming season. Um, you
know, there's gonna be a Champions League

531
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:30.159
spot for Although he was playing in
the Champions League with you know, with

532
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.559
Bruce Adortman as well. I was
really hoping to see him go to Man

533
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.840
City to play along with Holland yeah
you know each other really well, you

534
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.000
know, And I was, I
mean maybe I was hoping Macoco might move

535
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.320
to But now he signed an extension
so he's staying in Germany. But keep

536
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:49.639
and iron Bellingham now is a great
time starts stocking up on his stuff.

537
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:53.639
It's still criminally cheap, you know, especially especially after how he played at

538
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:59.360
the World Cup this year. Now
one oh man, you're preaching to the

539
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.719
chlin. I'm well aware of that. I love this pick. His stuff

540
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.880
is ridiculously low and it drives me
crazy how low it is sometimes. But

541
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:14.039
like you said, this move one
of the top teams in terms of overall

542
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:19.480
fan base, overall attention, especially
in the hobby. You know he's moving

543
00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:22.239
over there. He also fits in
very well over there. It's not like

544
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.960
he's gonna be fighting for a lot
of PT. They needed someone like him.

545
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.719
They filled a very big void,
and I think he's gonna play excellent

546
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:34.400
over there. I like you wanted
to see him go to Man City.

547
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:38.800
I thought that would have been amazing. But you know, just because there

548
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:43.719
are a lot of cool you know, his first tops Now card, or

549
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:45.119
one of his first tops Now cards, I have a bunch of them,

550
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:50.800
was him in Holland together, so
you know, seeing them back again at

551
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.079
this time in Man City would have
been pretty cool. I would have liked

552
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:58.840
to have seen the recreation of that
card too, But you know, yeah,

553
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:02.280
I love that pick. I think
Jude is someone that I would be

554
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:07.079
picking up like crazy. I've been
picking him up for a long time now,

555
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.039
but now I think you're I think
like you said, I think it's

556
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:13.480
gonna be good for the hobby,
and I do see him on a pretty

557
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.800
positive upswing. Yeah, it's gonna
be interesting seeing him with because you know

558
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.400
Tops has the Bundesliga. It's gonna
be interesting to see what Panini does with

559
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:27.280
him because they've got the Laaliga.
Yeah, contract, so we'll we'll find

560
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.159
out this coming season. Obviously,
you know he's been in the you know,

561
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.679
the World Cup stuff that Pannin's put
out and its like that, but

562
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.320
you know a little bit different with
the club team, yes, you know

563
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.840
it different, different inserts, you
know, different style to the you know,

564
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.039
photography and the bass cards and things
like that. So it's gonna be

565
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:47.800
very interesting to see how that plays
out. And obviously Tops Tops will continue

566
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:52.960
with him for the Champions League stuff
as well. Yeah, no, love

567
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.440
it, love to pick all right. So mine, we're gonna move over

568
00:39:55.519 --> 00:40:01.360
to the other football, American football. And this is a guy that well,

569
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:06.599
most people would consider it a bad
week he lost his job, but

570
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:13.719
his cards and hobbyists around him said
fuck yeah, and they're going up like

571
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.000
crazy. And that is running back
Dalvin Cook had to feel it, you

572
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.280
know, as soon as you said
he lost his job. I had a

573
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.119
feeling that we're going with Cook and
there are Look, there are teams that

574
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:27.079
are clamoring to get their hands on
this guy. That's my point, and

575
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:31.920
that not many times can you have
someone cut and then have their stuff go

576
00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:36.719
up. I was really debating between
him and Hopkins, but after looking at

577
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:42.199
both of them, Cooked seeing a
massive, massive amount higher increase than Hopkins

578
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.840
is. But his stuff was stagnant
and dropping. The second he was cut

579
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:52.039
from Minnesota, his stuff dart started
to skyrocket. And he is in a

580
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.719
perfect position because he can sit and
wait. Now he can find a contender

581
00:40:55.840 --> 00:41:00.719
he doesn't have. He's not bound
by any tight of agreement whatsoever. He

582
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:06.320
can look at what contenders need.
Probably won't see him sign un till after

583
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.800
training camp. But you're really think
it's gonna be You really think it's gonna

584
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:13.320
be that long? Yes, I
do, because I think because A he's

585
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.440
had a lot of carries on his
body, so going through training camp for

586
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.920
him, this is when those guys
start to skip training camp. B.

587
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:23.000
I think you wait and you see. If I'm him, I wait and

588
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:27.480
see who makes it through camp,
Who makes it through camp, and who

589
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.719
makes it through some of the preseason
games healthy, Like a lot of teams

590
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:36.800
are gonna have injuries happen in preseason. And if he's already said he wants

591
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:39.639
to go somewhere where he's valued and
he can win well, a lot of

592
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:45.880
times these championship looking teams find out
that running back room doesn't look that good

593
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.559
on the field, and I think
you're going to see a lot of contending

594
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.760
teams looking to go after him.
I do think it's at least past the

595
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.719
start of training camp before he's picked
up. And I see all that hype

596
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:02.480
and all those team names games that
you're going to hear interested in him between

597
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:06.559
now and then. And we've heard
Miami a lot and a lot of other

598
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.480
teams is only going to help his
cards I think continue to go up.

599
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:13.639
So Dalvin Cook's my guy this one
now. I yeah, I would say

600
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:16.360
after. I would say after the
start of training camp, but I would

601
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:21.840
says he's going to find a new
team, Uh, you know, probably

602
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:23.960
about halfway through training yeah. No, I would say halfway through, fourths

603
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:27.920
of the way through, before the
before the end of training camp, but

604
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.639
definitely not before. I don't see
him signing a contract before, Yeah,

605
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:34.400
because the last thing, the last
especially is a running back. The last

606
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.760
thing that you know you really want
to do is, you know, sign

607
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:42.400
a contract with a team right before
week one and then you only have a

608
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.239
very short period of time to learn
the playbook. Yeah, you know,

609
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.440
you want to make sure you get
in as much practice as you can on

610
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:54.280
running the you know, running that
playbooks, you struggling the quarterback to handoff

611
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:59.679
everything. Every QB is gonna do
it differently, like that stuff matters exactly.

612
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:01.159
So I look, I said,
that's why I don't think he goes

613
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:05.400
that long without it, you know, into training camp without a team.

614
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.000
But we'll see what happens. Yeah. No, but that's that's my guy

615
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:13.960
this week. I love him and
I just found it hilarious the second that

616
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.239
Minnesota let him go the hobby where
it was like, oh shit, now

617
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:22.599
he's got a chance. Yeah,
but sitting in Minnesota not fuck it now

618
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.519
exactly. So that was a good
one. I like that one. There

619
00:43:24.599 --> 00:43:29.679
we go, all right, now
before we sweak movers and shakers, guys,

620
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:31.960
but before we wrap up the show, Scott got to love something for

621
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:36.320
us, all right. So one
of my favorite products of the year came

622
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:40.199
out recently. Everybody knows I love
me some bowling megabox, Oh yes,

623
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:46.519
And I finally had a chance to
run out grab some not for lack of

624
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:51.000
a villa building on the shelves,
I just haven't had time. And after

625
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:55.840
ripping into the two megabox packs with
the mojor were fractors into him, I

626
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:59.800
was a little surprised because I hadn't
done I hadn't done the research on it.

627
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:02.840
I figured, okay, same Bowmen
Megabox. They picked one hundred prospects

628
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.039
from the hundred prospects from Bowman,
and you know, here you go and

629
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.440
here some color and the occasional auto
and some mansers whatever. Yeah. And

630
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:19.719
I'm not entirely sure how I feel
about this because they changed the product configuration.

631
00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:22.440
And I realized that when I opened
the packs and all of a sudden

632
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:30.119
there's there's Nkunia, a Wander Franco
mojo, right, and a Mookie Bets

633
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.519
mojo. I'm like, what the
hell is going on here? So wound

634
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:38.480
up, you know, doing some
research on it, and realized that instead

635
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:44.440
of a hundred prospects with the Mojo
refractors this year, they did fifty prospects

636
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:51.519
and fifty veterans and rookies, and
I and Bill get me wrong. The

637
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:55.320
veterans they picked in there are are
great is that they picked in there for

638
00:44:55.480 --> 00:45:00.719
you know, for this year's rookie
it's a solid, solid most of rookies.

639
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:06.760
But I just don't know how I
feel about not having it be a

640
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:12.119
full on prospect fest with the acceptation, with the acception every year they did

641
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.719
the Rookie of the Year contenders in
state And what is that going to do?

642
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.599
Because again you see, you know, all these guys are Kunau,

643
00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:28.079
Wander, Franco, Julio Rodriguez having
their their first non prospect Mojo's Yeah,

644
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.559
does that help? Even though the
rookies, you know, again some looks

645
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:35.559
some of these prospects are crap.
Yeah, you know, some of these

646
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:39.239
prospects are crap now and three or
four years from now they're the best card

647
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:45.480
to product. You know, prospects
can be like that time. But with

648
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:47.320
the with the addition of veterans.
So I I look, I'm torn.

649
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:52.360
You know. I like the fact
that I can that I can sit here

650
00:45:52.519 --> 00:46:00.280
and pull a Michael Harris rookie or
a Corbyn Carroll rookie. Gunner Henderson they're

651
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:04.400
all in there, or I can
have an Aaron Judge mojo, which you

652
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:06.880
know, it's the first hour of
Mookie Bets Mojo. It's the first time

653
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.000
they've had the mojo's, right,
No, I you know, on that

654
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:13.760
end, I love it. I
think it's cool. But like you said,

655
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.519
with prospects, you never you never
know outside of maybe one or two,

656
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:21.840
you never know who's gonna end up
getting that hype. And so many

657
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.280
guys to come out of nowhere.
Now you're chopping that list in half.

658
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:28.800
How many of those guys are going
to miss out on having one of these

659
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:34.079
mojo's because of these veterans and that. Well, but half the fun,

660
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:38.840
half the fun of Bowman Megabox is
sitting on these guys, right, you

661
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:45.159
know, I got I got boxes
upon boxes of mojo refractors from Mega Box

662
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:47.599
that I'm just sitting. I'm bleeding. Yeah, maybe none of them,

663
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.880
maybe none of them are going to
pan out, who knows, But you

664
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:57.119
know, occasionally you find you find
a gem exactly, and it's kind of

665
00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.119
ruining the fun for me. No, I agree, you know, I

666
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:02.079
like the I like the idea,
Like you said, I do like the

667
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:07.599
rookies having them I think that's awesome. I do like some veterans having their

668
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:12.599
first mojos. I think that's cool. But put that in like an insert

669
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.079
set or something like, change an
insert set up. If you want to

670
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.760
put vets in, and if you
want to put rookies in, do the

671
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:22.519
Rookie of the Year contenders, or
maybe add expand the checklist from one hundred

672
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:28.440
to one twenty and put in twenty
rookies. But I don't want I don't

673
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.920
know how much about or you can
get rid of. You know, you've

674
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:37.119
got the Rookie of the Year favorite
set, which is it is it's fifteen

675
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:42.199
cards. We'll take that out and
add fifteen to the set. Well,

676
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:47.719
no, take that out and make
the rookies like the actual rookie mojo.

677
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:53.119
Make that the insert right, yeah, instead of instead of having yeah,

678
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:55.159
but like, don't make it part
of like the base set. The basse

679
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:59.519
set should still be the prospects,
right, and then just throw in fifteen

680
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:05.360
rookie. And then this year they
also did these sites on September insert as

681
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.679
well, that one lead that's all. That's all prospects. They're you know,

682
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:10.840
waiting for that September call up and
things like that. Um, it's

683
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:15.360
funny that Anthony volpay is I know, yeah, he didn't even have to

684
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:20.480
wait. Um, but that's what
I would do. Get rid of Nobody

685
00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:23.400
likes the rookie of your favorite cards
anyway, No, get rid of those

686
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:29.519
fifteen Take the fifteen rookies, you
know, or you know there's more than

687
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:32.320
fifteen that are part of this,
but take the fifteen best. Yeah,

688
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:36.480
and instead of an insert, that's
what you do, is you just do

689
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:39.719
the rookie mojo. Yeah, and
and call it a day. Yeah.

690
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:44.840
Well, I, like you said, I'm curious to see what's going to

691
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:49.199
happen with some of the vet mojos, the rookie mojos, and how this

692
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.960
affects the prospecting And I'm really curious. We won't know for a couple of

693
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:58.400
years. But um, if there
are any of those prospects that got left

694
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.880
out, they aren't going to have
that mode jo this year because we added

695
00:49:00.960 --> 00:49:06.079
in vets and rookies. And you
know, these megaboxes are one of the

696
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.320
one of the more popular products of
the year, honestly, um for base

697
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:12.440
well, but I think it was
more of the more popular products of the

698
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.719
year because of the prospects, right, you know, nobody cares about the

699
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.719
four packs of oh god, these
paper and a couple of time the paper

700
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:25.400
mojos, I mean the prospect mojos. Yeah, and now you've got that

701
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:30.960
cut in half. Yep. So, and the prices you know, still

702
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:31.880
up at the high it was,
I mean, book when they were twenty

703
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:36.239
bucks a box. Oh yeah,
oh you mean yeah, yeah, you're

704
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:38.639
right, the greatest thing in the
world, you know, thank you twenty

705
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:44.360
nineteen. Right, but the you
know, the forty five dollar price tag

706
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:49.039
on it now and especially without having
you know, half the prospects that it

707
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:52.880
traditionally has that I don't know,
I like, I'm torn, No,

708
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.599
I'm right there with you. And
guys, well, I don't know what

709
00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.519
you think and how you like the
new um out of the Bowmen megans if

710
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:04.960
you're someone that's opening them. And
we'll definitely be keeping an eye out on

711
00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:08.519
some of the sales of those veterans, the low number vet colors, the

712
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:14.679
rookie colors, as well as um
what prospects maybe missed out. But Scott,

713
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:16.159
I think that's probably a good time
to wrap up this week's show.

714
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:20.280
What do you think? I think
it's a great time. Alright, well,

715
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.000
guys, before we go, I
do want to thank our awesome sponsors,

716
00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:27.840
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717
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718
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719
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.480
to help us keep this show going. We are on our road to the

720
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:43.400
National We've got some great interviews coming
up here soon as well. There's a

721
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.400
lot of other information tell you guys
about, so keep an eye out on

722
00:50:46.480 --> 00:50:51.840
all the socials and everything like that
as well as on every episode as well.

723
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:54.239
But we've got some really cool stuff
coming up. I will be on

724
00:50:54.360 --> 00:51:00.679
Hobby Hotline this weekend the seventeenth,
so if you're tuning in and definitely tune

725
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:05.800
in the Hobby hot Line, which
is every Saturday on bench Clear Media at

726
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:08.639
eleven am. And then of course
we'll have a couple of articles out for

727
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:13.480
us Hobby News Daily, gotten the
new NFL hot List that I'm doing,

728
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:15.960
as well as the NFL product for
fews. So a lot of really cool

729
00:51:16.039 --> 00:51:21.119
stuff coming up. Make sure to
check all that stuff out. But great

730
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:24.119
show man, Yeah, as always, looking forward to next week. Yeah,

731
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:29.360
Sharing a little bit more about our
plans for the national Yes, excited

732
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.480
about that, because we got some
great ideas that we thought of the other

733
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.559
day. We put together over the
next couple of days. And I'm excited

734
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.039
about the two of us put our
heads together because we always come up with

735
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:43.159
something great, even though they may
not seem like the greatest idea a little

736
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.639
bit time, I will agree with
you on that one. And on that

737
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:51.360
note, guys, until the next
week, you know the deal. Keep

738
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.159
ripping those packs, pulling those hits. We'll taught you. Then pace

