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Hey everyone, It's Tuesday, July
the twelve, twenty eleven, and you

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were listening to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm Ryan Davis joining me today in

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the studio with his headphones on.
Citty pretty in his proper chair, black

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shirts, short sleeves, amused look
on his face. Vitty Caravella, Hi,

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Ryan, dy Haw's it go with
Vitty? How you doing? It's

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pretty good? Patrick Levick's here yep. And now I own in our chad.

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I've gone down the rabbit hole.
Yep. Patrick Kappa joining us for

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his first California Streme this week,
and we'll talk about that shortly. Jeff

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Gersmon's here as well. Yep.
That's that is accurate accent. One hundred

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percent of you is here. Hello. Also here and brand shoemakers here jumping

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the guns on. No, that's
good. I like it. Pre proactive.

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Let's do this. I appreciate that
talk. All right, we're doing

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it, brad Ain, you doing
do it pretty good? Yeah? Yeah.

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You did not come with us to
Extreme this weekend, played newer video

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games. You did my house?
What are you gonna buy a cabinet?

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Man? Where backend? And where
am I going to put a cabinet does

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living room, bathroom later on.
So you need like a name, like

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one of those things will run like
ten thousand games. Like I put one

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of those NICs, it will run
a game. Or like if you got

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like a Neo Geo cabinet, maybe
it'll run like six games man, Yeah,

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or am I not even run at
all? Yeah? Or yeah?

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Most most likely it'll sit there untouched. That would be the best kind.

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I've got three of those. They're
awesome. It is one of those Immortal

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combat machine. No, that one
works, I don't have, so they

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all work. I just never turn
them off. Okay, you want to

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buy a missile command machine and really
I don't know, maybe i'll give I'll

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give you fifty dollars. That's that's
pre jailer, right, ye oh yeah,

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that is just the miss command Yeah, yeah, give you fifty five

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dollars streams command machine. I will
I will come and get your missile command

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machine for fifty bucks. So what
happened at California is is what happened at

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California. So for those who don't
know, California Streme in the Big Classic

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Arcade Show in Santa Clara. It
happened this past weekend. I was there,

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Dave Signer was there, Jeff was
there, and Patrick coming for his

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first year. Jeff, I think
you mean and Dave have gone for the

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past three years running. Now the
photos to prove it, and it's yeah,

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he wouldn't do what we do,
or at least the fact that we

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went to the Bennigans near the close
enough. You look at some of those

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pictures and see the wrist bands for
California Extreme, I'm sure that's I think

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you're the CSI it. He'd be
able to eventually prove you were there.

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You're all enhanced, Yeah, enhanced, enhanced chance this area here on his

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wrist, Yeah, that's it.
That's kind of extreme. Everyone knows that.

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Can we clean this up some right
here? Uh So three years running

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and it's it's a delight. It's
just a fun time to go. It's

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just a big old room full of
class arcade games and pinball machines and uh

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play and everything. Yeah, you
pay a general admission to get in and

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then everything set to free play and
you just it's free play. But it's

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also kind of tricky because some of
them have like little wires getting out where

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you have to press a button Yeah. So it's actually like some of them

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are kind of it's a game to
figure out. You approach the cabinet and

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it's like, okay, is there
just credits going? Is it just free

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play? Yeah, because a lot
of these machines is gonna you have to

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open up like take you know,
the coin slot, open that up,

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go find a little switch. Yeah, tell you that a bunch of times

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you should just not be free play
options and older games. So yeah,

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it's either that or you know,
provide quarters for everybody and then everyone will

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just steal all the quarters. So
last year we picked up a couple of

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machines at the show, our NBA
Jam cabinet and our our street Fight or

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two cabinet that are that are sitting
in the office now, and that's what

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it led to. The other machines. Yeah, that that you're ultimately led

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on to video and I going in
on his nif you catch a kind of

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The thing I loved about California Extreme
was like everybody there is there because they

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love the arcade scene and they're not
really there to make money off of anything.

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It's a non for profit organization.
Everyone there is volunteers. Everyone that's

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bringing in games are just collectors that
just want to show off stuff to people,

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and they're there to sell and sometimes
move, but it never feels like

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they're there to rip people off,
right. It feels like we're gonna it's

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a community whatever. So you kind
of catch that vibe while you're there and

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be like, oh, man,
yeah, this is pretty cool. It's

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a feel good thing. I always
wanted an arcade machine. This is kind

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of awesome, man. And finding
a big group of people who are so

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passionate, so excited about this stuff, and so like as an adult,

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when I walked in there and I
realized, Wow, this is suddenly this

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could be a reality. It's totally
within reach. Yeah. Yeah, like

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these machines are sitting here, maybe
a jam for two hundred bucks, Like

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two hundred bucks is like that's like
zero dollars in a lot of ways,

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it might as well be free.
Yeah, it's like I just need to

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skip a lunch a couple of days. What's two hundred actually losing money if

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you don't buy that exactly. So
at that point is where the mind eventually

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goes bread. So when you cross
that threshold and you're be like like,

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ohcade machine, Because when you're a
kid, it's like that's you pay a

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lot of money to pay the brass
ring baby an Ricky Schroeder style silver spoons.

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I got a fucking arcade machine in
my own house. Don't take me

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to the toy train Expo because yeah, the whole place clean out. So

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then you walk out and I was
like, this whole world, this world

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has now opened up to us,
and I we just went on a tear.

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The thing is that everyone knows everyone
else, so once you meet one

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of the guys, then they know
the problem is right, and then you

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then you are exposed to this vast
and intricate network of warehouses, like throughout

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the Bay Area and imagine beyond where
the fighting happens. But these warehouses where

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all of these dudes are just storing
the arcade machines, because most of these

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machines are just sitting somewhere unused three
days out of the year, right.

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And there's also a limited number of
arcade machines because it's not like they're making

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new ones, so they've all passed
around from like these twenty five dudes in

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their collection of like, oh you've
got the Warlords machine. Now that's cool.

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That's great. You've got You've got
Johnny. You know that's right Bill

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Bill's old Warrens machine, Like Ed
bought it from me and then he traded

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me Popeyes and swapped him that.
Yeah, so like everybody knows each other.

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And then Ryan, you and I
just kind of went post show and

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picked up Yeah, we picked up
the bug. And it was like because

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what we kept hearing was like the
oh, well, you know it's it's

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not here at the show. But
this guy that's showing has the swarehouse and

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he's got that machine and he's wanted
to sell for this much. You're correct.

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There are warehouse listings of like hey, open warehouse. Yeah, we

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have this warehouse that has way to
an air. Kbuchet's coming to check him

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out and take stuff because you know, a lot of the stuff is so

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old that it can't you can't like
put this in a location like you might

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have some ex coin op dudes and
every crowd there that that might be like

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putting them in launch. You know, no one's but like a star Castle

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machine, you're saying they're not commercially
viable anymore, like nobody wants to play.

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It's not like a conditioned thing.
No, No, it's very few

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games that people are gonna want to
pay to play, right, Yeah,

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what are you gonna pay a quarter
in a fucking laundromat? A quarter has

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changed? I'm to go to a
laundry Well, he might have to live

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in the city, OK, but
you're gonna use that quarter do your laundry

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act to go play a Popeye And
it's true. The quarter string with some

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gum and then that works. So
you got all these and I feel like

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you get this crowd of nostalgia people
that are like, I'm gonna buy I

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don't know where I'm gonna put it
where, I'm gonna put it in this

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warehouse that. And then I got
married and then my wife is like,

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you need to get rid of that
stupid warehouse. That the storage space,

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and then the dude's that California extreme
being like I need to get rid of

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these five games I have in a
storage place out in Pedaluma. And then

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he's like, here, do you
want this NBAJ machine for two hundred dollars

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and then say yes, right,
and then it infects the next person where

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it's like, now I've got three
machines that I have nowhere to put but

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I got him for like six hundred
bucks. Take the pall. That is

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how the the arcade collecting super aids
gets passed from one person to the next.

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What is because once, once I'm
a decision to get mine, and

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I felt really good about it,
but then this intense dread, terror and

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stress came over me, like after
the elation of like, yes, I'm

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buying a bust of Mood cabinet for
two hundred dollars. It's great. Fuck,

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I haven't thought this through. I
didn't. I eyeballed it. I

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think it'll fit through my door,
but I you know, I can't say

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there's any certainty. And then if
it's Sunday, so if I go back

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in a camp in the door,
well you hauls closed. So where am

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I gonna put it? Like,
oh shit, just just all these woods.

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Before you get to the end of
your story, plas, let's bring

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it back to the beginning. You
show up Saturday, Saturday afternoon. Saturday

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afternoon, you and you and Katie
come in and she's cruising the floor playing

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games. I think the first time
I see you, you you two are

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on the bust and move cabinets.
Yeah, yeah, we we have a

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lot of space in our kitchen and
we aren't gonna spend the money to a

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model because we're renting. So you're
like, we gotta get some sort of

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theme into this room or something,
and you know we're getting married next year.

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So like buying our cake came and
it's kind of a hard cell,

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but I was like, all right, well, you know, I'll take

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her down and like I'll kind of
feel out like which games she is enjoying,

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and then maybe I can make her
come around. And she loves polo

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games because she's way better at them
than I am. So it's crucial that

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she can kick my ass at a
game because it's just not possible and like

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any sort of modern game level.
So she became entranced by this busting move

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machine and like I just let I
know. I didn't push it. I

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just let it goes like well,
you know, it's three hundred dollars,

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and she was like, oh,
I thought they were like a thousand dollars.

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Three hundred is a lot more reason
why I was like, all right,

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so it's been late There was and
I heard only about this, but

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there was a late night turn where
you guys were again back, like because

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so so California stream goes over the
full weekend and on Saturday night it stays

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open to like two am. So
there's you get this two am. I

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can confirm that you get this,
but you get it's it turns at a

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certain point where it's like during the
day, it's like, you know,

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a bunch of collectors and families there
and it's this you know, fun,

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very friendly environment. But at a
certain point, the crowd kind of thins

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and turns and people have been at
the hotel bar for a while or just

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in their rooms drinking, and then
so like this this CD late night kind

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of vibe starts to kind of set
in. It becomes the ark that you

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sort of imagine in your mind like
what it used to be like. And

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and then it becomes that had it
was some really questionable smells and it's yeah,

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so we're sitting there. We immediately
like we're gonna play a bunch of

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more games, like we I wanted
to play the it was the Adams family

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that had a like a bike attached
to it had to be running out in

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order to keep keep keep it going, and but we just were gravitated to

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the bust machine. We were drunk, and then it became much more fun

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to play because it was a little
even match. She was missing some over

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shots, so I was able to
get a get back in. But then

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we had a bunch of people that
were playing, and at some point someone

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like made the remark, uh so
Patrick stopped, stopped sucking around, is

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get this machine? And Katie goes, yeah, stop making excuse this clubbingses

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witnesses she is officially signed on to
this endeavor. And and you know,

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so it was two and am it
hadn't been sold yet. It's still the

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sticker. So I was like,
all right, well this opens at eleven.

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I'll put in some calls in the
morning, we'll get this ball rolling

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in the direction. Because I have
no experience doing this, so I didn't

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I don't know how to haggle,
Like I don't even like the guest three

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in our bucks is like I don't
know what's reasonable to seventy five, Like

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like what's the offer prize? Everyone
was telling keep, don't pay three hundred

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bucks, Like the three hundred seems
really reasonable. But I ended up having

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Uh, well so you got all
these laser discs. Yeah, so so

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this is kind of where our stories
started to hit intermingle indeed. So so

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you know, a big shout out
to Steve Lynn. I just want to

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say, probably on the air.
He was He's a an arcade collector,

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showed up at California Stream. I
guess he's shown in years past, didn't

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show this year. Uh, and
as a Giant Bomb fan and had had

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heard about my my laser disc collecting
exploits. And I guess I'm not sure

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if he just had these or he
it sounded like he had picked them up

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from someone else who was clearing out
their collection, and so we got him

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for next to nothing and was just
passing them along to me. But he's

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like, hey, you know,
come come meet me a California Stream and

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I'll give you this big old box
of laser discs and a buch crazy like

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really crazy, awesome, like kind
of rare shit. So I was.

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I was very excited for that.
Uh. And we and we talked a

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bit, and and we learned about
more kind of shared friends and connections both

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inside and outside of the game's business. But he was very cool about all

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that. Also, I was able
to provide Vinnie with a soundboard for his

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Jews yeah, I haven't. I
haven't tried dropping it in yet. But

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yeah, thanks so much for for
forgiving that to me. Let's go play

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some jobs after this. So I'm
not sure how he there's another mutual friend

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of that basically cook you up with
him. So Chris Kohler over at Wired,

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like he had, I mentioned I'm
looking at this bust Move machine,

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and and then like I mentioned over
Twitter, and he finally texted me like,

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I haven't I know this guy.
Just just just text him and say

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that you're interested in the machine and
he knows all the people, and so

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I do. I just texted this
guy all I know. His name is

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Steve Stevelyn. I'm like okay,
And I was like, hey, I'm

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mentioned this bust Move machine. It's
like three hundred bucks, Like you know,

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Kohler told me. You know,
somebody's like, yeah, you're not

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paying three hundred dollars. But I
just tell me, are you in that?

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We're waiting for for you guys to
me as a breakfast. It's like

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Katie, are we in? S
yeah? So so I said yes,

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And you know, about about an
hour later, Texas says, two hundred

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bucks, it's yours. I'll start
working on transport, and I'm like,

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all right, because that's the big
thing, right right, I had I

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had not I had thought about me
to coming to get one, but I

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had, like I just had a
Honda Element like I it's not really made

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too. I'd given you, I'd
given you all of the like you know,

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pre warning stuff about hey, you
know it's it is. The hardest

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part is it's the reason why people
are selling them for cheap is because they

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are giant pieces of hardware that are
a weird It's like the world's most useless

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refrigerator, right, but like way
more top heavy and fragile and and just

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a awkward to move. Yeah,
extremely awkward to move, always too wide

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to get into the doors that you
need to get them into. So it's

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yeah, it's that's the moving them
is always the nightmare. So I wanted

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to prep you for that part.
Yeah, so I'm so it was the

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transport. So so then I met
it was Steve, and uh, I

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was like, hey, so I
got you know, I got cash out,

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like you know, let's go buy
it. He's like, I already

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took care of it. So I
gave him the money because he had already

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like again, I'm like this is
weird, but I'm like this is really

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nice, Like this is going very
smooth. It's like I'm gonna start working

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on transport. But at that point, that's when the dread starts setting and

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I'm like, well, what if
what if you can't figure something out and

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I'm stuck with this machine sitting on
the side of the road. I know

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what. I tried to call you
haul and like I got something set up

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because I was like, well,
it's two hundred bucks, so if I

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have to pay one hundred thirty for
a van at this point, I'm you

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know, I thought I was gonna
pay three hundred bucks. That's pretty even

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money. So so I think I'm
all right, but I set that up

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and then he goes. He texted
me and he's like, hey, so

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I found this guy with a pickup
truck. I'm like, okay, found

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that. It's like, well,
I'll just we can use a pickup truck.

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We can go to the city and
I'll help you move to the arcade

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counted in and you know, you
can just cancel the U haul And I'm

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like, all right. If this
doesn't happen, though, you all closes

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at five we have to load at
six, I'm gonna be stuck with this

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thing. Well, you guys are
all leaving. I'm like, no,

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I have like no friendly options.
So I will tell you this, and

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this is the out that you didn't
know that you had it. Thankfully you

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didn't need it. But the folks
that run California Stream, and I think

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in part also the the people that
run the convention center are fairly understanding to

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this situation and we'll allow stuff to
stay until the next day if you need

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that, like need that extra time
to figure how to get out a lot

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less stress that afternoon. If I
had known that, Yeah, So that's

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that's a key thing, is like, because we went through the same thing

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last year of buying machines and not
having any sort of transport figured out,

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and then basically getting to the end
of the day and going like, fuck,

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what do we do now? Like
the convention centers closing up, and

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we have we have ownership of these
two machines, and oh god, we

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ended up looking out because like one
of the machines we bought, the guy

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I had a truck and kind of
I guess we worked at delivery out of

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the delivery with that one, yeah, and so like, hey, can

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you take this other one? We
got yeah, So we ended up getting

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him to bring us both of them
the next day. Uh. And so

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he was like that we learned about
this, you know, kind of this

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this grace period because he was like, yeah, I'm not even here,

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I'm gonna be coming back tomorrow on
Monday to go and actually get the machines.

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And we'll also imagine those guys that
win some of the raffle things,

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so we're not necessarily prepared to go
ship this pinball machine. Yeah, how

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the play we're gonna get that anywhere? Imagine people coming to like far away.

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Imagine like, you know, one
guy came from Ireland, Like what

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if he'd won that raffle you put
a sticker on it immediately, right,

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stickers, six hundred bucks, just
something anything at all, please yes,

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hires the carapets stupid anyway, So
the ones I got given away, yea.

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So graduation. So the great conclusion
to this story is that so Steve

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drives me up in this pickup truck. You know, I thank the guy

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that I don't know profusely for a
lying me to go in his pickup truck

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with this arcade cabinet. We get
it to my place and as Steve and

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I are rolling it in wheels on
the corner, no, we we had

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to get we got it big Dolly
and like trucking along hangling it. But

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as we're rolling it into the gate
and I fortunately live in the first force,

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just like four small steps. It
really was not too big of a

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deal. There was this gaggle like
fifteen kids that were like eight ten years

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old, and as I'm rulling this
arcade cabinet into my place, and I'm

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like like, I feel like this
is this is a sign because if I

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had seen this when I was there, because immediately all start going is that

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an arcade machine? And I was
like, I was like, yeah,

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I just bought it there, Like
you can do that, you can you

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can have this too. I don't
know what the scene's going to be like

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in fifteen years, but someday you
can live this dream. What are those

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cabinets made out of? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, a lot of press

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boards, so they're not going anywhere. They're not like a deteriorate from what

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I've seen. They get the shride
to make other cabinets I've seen video Archie,

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but I'm talking there's no like rod
going on or anything like that.

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So the material it's off the particle
board breaks apart, doesn't. Yeah,

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every time you move it, you
are you're testing the tensile strength of the

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materials. I think the biggest limiting
factor are the CRTs that are just yeah

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wearing out. Yeah, CRTs wearing
out and not being able to get replacements

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for those. Is I need to
get for the street Fighter machine that we

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have here, I need to get
a new I guess that's a nineteen inch

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monitor or anything. Yeah, we
need to get a new monitor or or

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a cab kit might get recapped.
Yeah, but yeah, but after buying

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this, like like as we're sitting
like we got it in and Katie are

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like wrapping her heads around, They're
like, we're thring a beer and like

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looking like there's a cabinet next to
us. Did you play a bunch of

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it? Oh yeah, yeah yeah, but it sort of the cabin and

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I bought is also it's a new
a Gio machine. So this is the

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most exciting part to me, in
the part where where I feel like Patrick

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has has done done this the best
out of all of us other than Jeff

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Splitz cabinet, which he paid nothing
for. I haven't paid anything for any

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of my machines. I guess that's
true, other than upkeep on the pinball

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machine. Although you did pay for
that street Fighter cabinet, I did pay

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for that. You didn't pay anything
for a Blitz machine I wanted at E

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three By being very good at Blitze. He had already played a lot of

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Blitz on the Blitzer KDE machine that
was in the office. So yeah,

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because of that, that that kind
of helped his chance pay on another one.

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You're having this house and never play, so it's ninety nine at Jeff's.

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But yeah, so so Patrick,
in addition to only paying two hundred

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bucks for this for this cabinet bust
Move cabinet, it turns out that it's

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a standard proper Neo Geo MBS system
with you haven't been able to drill out

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the lock yet. Yeah, no, there's no key to open the lock

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to get into the board. So
but when I was looking through like the

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debug menu like it, the way
was listed out and it's a slot one.

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You know, it's possible that this
is a multi slot machine. So

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but even even the one slots still
say that like it's just the same bios.

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Okay, but it's it's not even
that, it's even if not the

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fact that you can still just place
those cartridges is very easy. Yeah,

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that that is. That is Yeah, there's there's it's trivial to do that,

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I would say, which I'm gonna
dig through, which opens up a

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whole new gate of getting into MBS
collection because it's so easy to get those

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individual cards and it can be oh
so expensive Magical Drop for two fifties,

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it's more. That's more than buyer. You're gonna you're gonna pay more for

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one card at some point than you
paid for the whole cabinet, because that's

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the joy over a thousand dollars on
a Neo Geo. Yeah, so I

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mean you get the MBS of that
for a song. I had the Dreamcast

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version, so I didn't really need
to play that one much, probably like

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five times. It's very it's very
it was it was like sixteen hundred.

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That was like a twelve or something
like that. Yeah, but yeah,

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there were some games that I paid
like four or five hundred bucks. But

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but that's the yes, like the
MVS versions are, what's the difference I'm

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so new to this. Arcades though
it's home card like for's home card versus

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arcade cart It's just a different and
it's weird because it's actually identical, like

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if you can, you can get
adapters to play one on the other.

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The only difference is the bios on
the hardware itself is what tells it if

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it requires quarters or not. Oh
so, so even with an arcade machine,

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you can get an adapter for it
to play like a home car.

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Yeah. Yeah, but the things
that home cartridges are generally rarer than arcade

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cards, so well, the rarities
are totally different. Metal slug one is

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like trivial to own in one format, but over a thousand dollars in the

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other or something like that. As
far as I don't so, I maybe

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my magical drop for tuber than two
fifty, depending on how it's sort of

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well, I'm just just rare.
Yeah, And I'm not sure how the

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adapter situation works for getting home cards
into the arcade. I know the other

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way around, it's like three hundred
bucks for the for something, but yeah,

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I don't know that starts anyway.
Welcome anyways, Welcome to the wonderful

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world of arcade ownership. So Brad, you know what game would you?

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Brad? You know what? I'll
tell you this. I actually saw it.

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I was so after the show and
looking at at at Patrick's hall and

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and cursing him under my breath.
I started looking at at some local listings

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and found a pretty decent NeoGeo multi
slot for four dollars right now, Yeah,

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for like four hundred bucks, not
far from me. And I believe

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that same guy had a clean,
clean looking MK two's like but like crazy

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clean have the board? Yea.
I bought an MK two board five years

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ago, you kind of kind of
like I bought like an NBA jam and

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like Pit Fighter because like Pitt Fight
was like seventy bucks? What am I

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doing? Like? I should buy
this just in case, in case you

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ever ever want to play Pit Fighter. Actually, I bought it about hooking

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it up to what's it called a
supergunnper gun. Yeah, but the supergun

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we had was was not wired up
for that resolution. Yeah right right,

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That's why we started getting all that
CET too. Shit. Yeah, because

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that stuff works. Yeah yeah,
the CBS two stuff works. You just

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need those Capcom kick harnesses. Anyway, it's poison man. Yeah, no,

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it infects you the most delicious of
poisons. I think v NBS,

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I think is probably the holy grail
I will. I will say. One

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thing with my machine is that I
had originally been looking at a primal rage

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machine. There was five hundred dollars. Yeah, and then I played a

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primal Ragin was like, I don't
want to buy this machine anymore, but

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it's great. Is that my bust
to Move machine was originally a primal razing

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machine. It still has Primal rage
stickering on it. So I essentially got

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a primal rage machine which we got
like like near Geo branding and ship.

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It's gone through a couple ye.
I just loved it. I had consciously

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put away the primal age. It
came back in just a different form.

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You cannot defy the great magnets.
Also realizing that the guy who was selling

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the Primal Rage machine was the same
dude that sold Vinnie his Jaws machine,

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so oh yeah, yep, ye
same dude. So so what are the

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what are the MVS cards you go
for? Like top five? Most don't,

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I don't know. Jeff and I
both owned a number that if you

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want to just I'll just take them
out. And what was the one the

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guys are telling me The puzzle game
with the money Puzzle Exchanger, which I

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kind of hard to find. Jeff
has a copy. I bought that in

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Japan. It ended up cost me
a little bit. Yeah, but it

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was worth that. I think that
was like two hundred bucks, but it

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was just worth it. This game
is amazing. It's like anime girls changing

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money into higher quantities of money.
Great puzzle game. It's great, it's

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great. It's available, you can
get the It's one of those ps imports

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that they do on PlayStation Network.
Oh really, because it came out on

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the Japan. Yeah. Money Idle
Exchange, I think is what they listed

406
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as there. But I always his
name. I always knew it, his

407
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:10.759
money puzzles change. We well,
now now that Katie we have this Sarca

408
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:14.079
campus, she has a theme.
She's not gonna start turning the kitchen into

409
00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:17.200
a bar. So eventually we're gonna
get it set up with a with the

410
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:18.400
white boards. We're gonna be doing, you know, like bust move cash

411
00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:22.119
games in my place. So there
will be a welcoming party once once that

412
00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:26.720
is a little more established, and
maybe that's when we'll have the carts brought

413
00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:29.200
over and we can see what it
does. So suffice to say, you

414
00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:33.359
had funny California this weekend. Well, I'm exhausted though, that is it's

415
00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.279
hiring. Yeah. I spent I
think me and Dave spent like five hours

416
00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:41.240
on Saturday sitting by the pool drinkings. And it was like mid day,

417
00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:42.960
like two to eight or something like
that. While you were doing that,

418
00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:47.039
I was sleeping in my hotel room. Yeah, so you know, that's

419
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:51.119
that's how I kind of kept it
from from getting on top of me too

420
00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:53.440
much. It was, you know, copious breaks for beers. Oh,

421
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.160
I slept a lot. It was
so good though. I didn't regret it

422
00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:00.079
at all. You just disappeared for
a long time. Yeah, I said.

423
00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:02.640
He takes like, what are you
doing for dinner? And she's like

424
00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:06.039
nothing for hours. Well, it's
definitely like something happened. So I was.

425
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:10.960
I was awoken by the fireworks going
off at at Great America at about

426
00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:15.519
ten, which ten ten pm,
bad time to wake up from a nap,

427
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.599
bad baby. He's like, oh
no, it's super dark and laid

428
00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.559
out, and I'm just waking up
all fuzzy aheaded. So I think that's

429
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:23.319
right around the time of me and
day, We're finally like, man,

430
00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:26.799
we should probably get something to eat. Just get a whole ryme yep.

431
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.359
And then it was like all right, hot dog run and then after hot

432
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:30.559
dogs, like, guess what,
I'm going? Right the fuck back to

433
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.440
sleep? That was pretty good,
Like twelve hours asleep that night. It

434
00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:37.920
was amazing. I haven't gotten that
much sleeping forever. I loved it,

435
00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.960
loved it to death. It was
great. Weekend a balcony. Next weekend,

436
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:47.960
California Sleep Extreme Mastress Convention. Are
you are you? Are you able

437
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.720
to share your Twitter story? What
was my Twitter st Oh? Okay,

438
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:57.279
sure, yeah, I'll share this
one on what the fuck? I guess

439
00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:02.359
I really got nothing to lose here, so the crowd that comes to California

440
00:26:02.359 --> 00:26:06.799
Extreme. Oh. It's also worth
worth noting that in the convention center that

441
00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:10.039
that this was happening in, which
was attached to a hotel, and I

442
00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:14.839
was staying at that same hotel,
although Jeff, Dave, and Patrick all

443
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.680
had to stay at the Hilton across
street because the Hyatt had sold out,

444
00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:19.839
which which was strange to me.
Yeah, I was just I had never

445
00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:23.000
seen a book up like that during
Californying stream. But I found out a

446
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:27.160
few days in advance that oh,
there's also gonna be a Jehovah's Witness convention

447
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:30.359
happening in the convention center. At
the same time, it's like, okay,

448
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:34.279
well that's clearly what's what's filling the
place. Wildly different crowds. Yes,

449
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.559
the Joe's Witness people. You did
not confuse the two Joe's Witness people.

450
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:42.279
Well dressed and didn't smell bad.
Everyone's super nice on all sides.

451
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:47.759
Sure, but but yeah, from
from a from an appearance perspective, easy

452
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:52.680
to spot the Joe's Witness people in
the California Stream people. Anyway, at

453
00:26:52.680 --> 00:27:00.079
one point I think this was uh, this was Sunday, Saturday. It

454
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:03.519
felt like it felt like it was
a longer period of time, but yes,

455
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:06.079
it would really everything happened on Saturday. Yeah, right, right,

456
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.519
you're you're right, you're right.
Yeah, but midday, midday Saturday,

457
00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.200
went back out to my room,
uh, fifth floor, get off the

458
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:18.000
elevator, and am just immediately slammed
in the face with the overwhelming smell of

459
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:22.000
pot just just bare wanna smell,
just like I'm like, it might as

460
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.480
well be someone blowing it directly into
my face. Like that's how strong it

461
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:29.200
is, Like it's right there.
It's it's not like like you could smell

462
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:33.119
kind of like the weird perfuning smell
of the hotel intermingled with It's like,

463
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.279
no, this is the only smell
coming right like those hot boxing the fifth

464
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:40.400
floor of this hotel, Like it
has to have been like you know,

465
00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:44.920
you walk out of the elevator lobby
into like the floor and there's the hallway

466
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.720
goes left and right from there and
there's like maybe like five or six rooms

467
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.559
kind of like right in that basic
area. Like it had to been one

468
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:55.160
of those rooms because it was just
right there in your face. No towel

469
00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:59.759
under the door, No to like
put the towel under the door and crack

470
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:03.920
the window. It's like just amateur
hour or they just didn't give a fuck.

471
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.319
Uh. It's worth noting this is
not the first time that I've experienced

472
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:11.400
this at that high at during California
last year. Definitely last year had the

473
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.599
same thing. Was like when we
first walked in and to get our rooms,

474
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.599
it was like, oh, hey, California streams happening. If you

475
00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:22.759
got smoking, if you got them
bro. Yeah, definitely the mentality amongst

476
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:26.319
certain convention goers. Anyway, I
get back to my room and I thought,

477
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.960
hey, you know, I'll tweet
about this, just give give some

478
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.160
folks a little sense of the flavor
here at California Extreme, to say,

479
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.799
hey, fifth floor of the Higher
Reasons seeing Santa Clara stinks like marijuana.

480
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:41.599
Good job, keep good looking out
at California Extreme. And then I believe

481
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.440
at that point I do nap,
and then I wake back up and look

482
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:48.519
at my phone and realize that I
have been repplied to by uh. I

483
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.799
just want to just pull out my
phone so I can just verify the exact

484
00:28:53.240 --> 00:29:00.200
verbiage here. This is this is
the magic of the Internet and Twitter and

485
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:06.319
not realizing the consequences of just saying
things and people having alert set up for

486
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:10.319
certain keywords. It's like I wrote
to Apple at one point, I said,

487
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.079
I'm here at the Applebee's. It's
this or suicide. Like the Applebee's

488
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.400
account wrote back to me like what. I was like, No, what's

489
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:22.000
wrong, I'm just talking shit about
Applebee's. It wasn't That was not the

490
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:27.160
exact me. He was like,
what's wrong with that? Like totally oblivious

491
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:32.839
to me just go like, God, I want to kill myself instead of

492
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:41.200
eat your food. But you're open
lates the only out here. Oh oh

493
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.920
oh, this might take too long
to find. Oh here, it is

494
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:52.440
all right from the account at Hyatt
concierge at Taswell. That is horrible.

495
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:55.640
I wanted to let you know.
I have contacted the mod and they are

496
00:29:55.759 --> 00:30:03.000
sending security up to the fifth floor. You busted sound get Oh my gosh,

497
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:07.680
it just gets stitches. Totally.
I totally narked out some poor harmless

498
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.440
pot smokers. Like I not the
outcome that I would have wanted at any

499
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.279
point. But it's great because you
said, like the fifth floor, you

500
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.440
gave them the house, gave them
everything. What is the mood the manager

501
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:26.680
on duty? Okay, what are
they gonna do you? I hope nothing

502
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.680
happened. I hope I hope that
no one got ejected or you know,

503
00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.920
get worse A stern talking to I
mean, you can't really what are you

504
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.720
gonna sniff it out and find?
You can't pinpoint the room and then they

505
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.000
don't have to answer the door.
Right. Yeah, they're probably still and

506
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.440
they were probably not even there at
that point, but still I effectively knarked

507
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:51.839
out nar don't so don't tell me
anything. Ever, that's what's gonna happen,

508
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:55.480
at least with no identifying markers.
Hey, Vinny, do you want

509
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.920
to do some cocaine later? Don't
tell then, I just kind of want

510
00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:02.559
to you that for rants are tweeting
random show. Yeah, that was the

511
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:04.400
other fellow that I had. Is
just started. Man, I'm at the

512
00:31:04.519 --> 00:31:08.599
Sheridan and his fucking white powder all
over the floor here. This is third

513
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.400
floor. It's kind of fucked up. I don't know why this naked guy

514
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:15.359
is taking a dump in the middle
of the third floor of this high in

515
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:19.079
Boston, but I'm not very cool
with that. Third floor of the Nakati

516
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:25.400
applies its bullets everywhere, just fucked
up Twinkie rappers and ship. Is there

517
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:30.319
a live raccoon in the lobby of
your holiday in on the seventh floor rooms?

518
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:33.480
It seems kind of weird. Yeah, that's that's the fun part,

519
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.160
is when you just start fucking with
other I'm on the fourth floor, but

520
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:41.640
I have friends that are up on
the seventh floor. There's just blood oozing

521
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.839
out of twelve that they marryout here
on period seven. I'm not really sure

522
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:52.000
what that's about. I'm hungry,
that's right in. Yeah, oh,

523
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.200
this is just an innocuous whatever day, trolling out there. Great dinner tonight.

524
00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.759
But then I got back to discover
that the hotel room next to mine,

525
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:05.640
he's on fire. There's a trail
of toes leading into the supply camera

526
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:15.680
regency. Anybody want lunch? So
yes, that was that was my unfortunate

527
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:22.720
accidental discovery. Yeah, so just
know, just know that there are brands

528
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.640
watching me or every goddamn move on
Twitter. Yeah, that social media is

529
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.000
really scary. Yeah, did you
reply to it? It's just like,

530
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.680
you know, so it's out there
doing that, Jamie Kennedy's out there doing

531
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:37.319
that like it's it's yeah, there
was there was no hashtagging or like adding

532
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.119
like it wasn't like hey I'm trying
to get high. It's attention over here,

533
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.960
or wasn't like at the highest No, no, no, it was

534
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:49.319
just I just typed in higher regency
in Santa Clara fifth floor, bring gun

535
00:32:49.559 --> 00:33:00.319
real non description. H I definitely
unknowingly, unwittingly gave them released specific in

536
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:05.599
retrospect, Well, you know,
in retrospect, that's on me, that's

537
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.519
true. I'll say the silver.
Yeah, you know what, I'll take

538
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:10.680
that. At least they're looking out
though, they're trying to give you the

539
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:15.279
best hotel. You know what if
that bothered you, Yeah, absolutely absolutely,

540
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.599
And you know if they can't the
Hyatt can't parse out like sarcasm or

541
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.319
irony from fucking Twitter, they just
have to take all that. There's a

542
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:31.279
hotel chain. That's nuts, not
a human exact Johnny. It's not Johnny

543
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:35.880
Hyatt out there looking at the account. I want to check into any rooms

544
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:43.359
under the name Buds smoke up for
twenty arcade Kings. So that's that's if

545
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.759
he's on the fifth floor, find
him. Just watch Billy Mitchell after that

546
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:52.200
other Twitter account that says just smoked
out the seventh Flora. Oh no,

547
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.920
put two and two together. Find
these guys. Man, I'm just gonna

548
00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:02.480
start. My room's real small here
at the we're in man and McCAT farted

549
00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:08.519
it. It is, Jeff,
you identified it and correctly so as the

550
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:15.559
creepy, weird, scary part of
social media is the like improving your customer

551
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.920
service by just publicly bitching about stuff
on Twitter. Yeah it's I don't like

552
00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.480
doing it. Yeah I did it
a couple a couple of weeks ago.

553
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:30.719
Yeah, for what I had ordered
like the Beastie Boys album online and never

554
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:35.559
got any kind of email anything about
whether the order had been processed and had

555
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.760
like got charged by PayPal. But
never They're supposed to immediately send a download

556
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.360
code that I never got and all
this stuff. So I waited like three

557
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.280
weeks. I waited like a week
and then wrote in and said, like,

558
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.440
you know, there's a email address
on the PayPal receipt that said where

559
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:51.760
to right too, So I wrote
to that address. Didn't hear back as

560
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:53.840
a company it's like a fulfilment company
that is, you know, it specializes

561
00:34:53.840 --> 00:35:00.719
in doing this. And then waited
another couple of weeks and wrote on Twitter

562
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:06.920
again minus to stop payment. Dispute
this PayPal charge to company name because they

563
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.119
won't respond to my emails about this
stuff. And then like five minutes later,

564
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:14.119
someone goes send an email to this
address, He'll escalate it for you.

565
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:16.840
And so I wrote to that guy
and then he just kind of snis

566
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.679
broke back, like that's not our
customer service address. Uh, you should

567
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.119
have filled out this form, And
I said, well, the receipt I

568
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:27.599
got from PayPal has this address on
it, and then I received a ticket

569
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.760
number in response. So if that's
not the right address, you were doing

570
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:37.079
a very good job making it look
like it is the the right channel for

571
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:38.840
for that. And it got taken
care of like within like two hours after

572
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:44.559
that, and it's it's just check
my cloud. Yeah. At some point

573
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:49.199
I feel like it's just like I'm
using whatever follower number I have to to

574
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:53.480
bully companies around and I hate that
feeling. Uh, And I but I

575
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:57.800
got my down code, but as
I was writing it, it's I almost

576
00:35:57.800 --> 00:35:59.760
didn't send it like I wrote it
out, just going like, oh,

577
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.400
here what I'm doing right now,
eating a sandwich, trying to try to

578
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:07.079
think stuff? Yeah, frust to
writing yes, yes, Like the Twitter

579
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:12.920
message is just like what's frustrating you
right now? Yeah? We should we

580
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.760
should just all make a Twitter account
that's like, you know, bitching a

581
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:19.280
ship that we all just share and
everybody follows. And it's like, I'm

582
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.239
just gonna write a tweet says like, you know, Comcast fucking sucks.

583
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.840
They're charging me way too much.
I don't think they responded anymore, because

584
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:30.000
that's what everyone says on Twitter is
just this NonStop fuck Comcast. Those guys

585
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:35.440
are asshole. Same thing. Yeah, but I'm at AT and T.

586
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:39.679
But I was also writing about my
how I'm probably gonna switch to Comcast pretty

587
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:45.639
soon because my current ISP just doesn't
have enough speed. And it's like a

588
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:50.079
great local ISP, like they're awesome, but they just they don't have the

589
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.719
speed. And like the CEO of
that ISP like responding said, yeah,

590
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.639
you gotta go where the band with
this, I totally understand no our feelings.

591
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.000
And I was like, yeah,
are you expanding soon? He said,

592
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:02.519
not not in your area immediately,
but you know, like I will

593
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.440
go back to them as soon as
they offer a high speed service, but

594
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:08.400
don't they just don't have it right
now. It's funny because this is actually

595
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:12.920
this will be the second time I've
left this ISP. The first time was

596
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:15.800
because they didn't have dial up numbers
in my town and I was spending like

597
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.760
one hundred and fifty bucks a month
calling into their dial up. Uh,

598
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:27.039
that's a long time ago dial up
modems. So the Internet like like you

599
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.039
know, like LaserDiscs pet you know, PEPSI has an account and they write

600
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:34.159
things like asking like trying to get
you to engage with their brains. I

601
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:37.960
just wonder who follows those accounts,
Like I sort of get why they respond

602
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.679
to people when they have like keywords
searches set up, right, But who

603
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.480
is following pepsi? Yeah? Like
and they're posting stuff like they're trying to

604
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.559
engage people, like, hey,
it's summertime. What are you doing to

605
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:50.920
beat the Like who the fuck's going? Like, well, pepsi, I'm

606
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:59.400
trying to stay high school pepsi?
Pepi? Yeah, fucky car rules from

607
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:06.719
the RC account not drinking pepsi?
Sh what are you talking? RC Cola

608
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:10.199
doesn't own computer. That Coca Cola
Twitter account has like three times as many

609
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:14.559
followers as Pepsi. That's how That's
how far down this I went, like

610
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:15.800
a couple of weeks ago. It's
like sitting there stair to this going,

611
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:21.480
Man, that's a fuck. That's
a bumber. Like when when companies sign

612
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:24.199
like when they post things on Twitter
and then sign it with the person's initials,

613
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:28.280
who's answering who's responding? It'll say, like, you know, like

614
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.440
I'll care at sim We'll say k
K, who's that? I don't know?

615
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:36.360
Sometimes yeah, sometimes the list who
it is on some other page somewhere

616
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:37.679
that you're supposed to go care about. And I was like, what kind

617
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.920
of feel like? I wish you're
going to those pages as anyone that's following

618
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:44.239
Pepsi or Coke and just mask block
all of them from ever following me,

619
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:46.840
Like I just like eliminate you from
the pool of people. This is an

620
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:52.880
either or proposition here, people,
Either you were following Hamburger helper on Twitter

621
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.199
or you're following me. That's it. I might follow him, Yeah,

622
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:59.599
I wouldn't want to know who's that's
the problem. You can't again, you

623
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:04.519
can't part out like who's following Coca
Cola? Ironically, right, Neil Hamburg

624
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:07.119
Yeah, Neil Hamburger is sitting there
following all of the brands and then taking

625
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:15.840
on them every time assholes. It's
pretty accurate spot on Neil Hamburger impression both

626
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:28.599
in content and zone. Hey you
yeah, be careful. So just know

627
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:30.760
that they can go the great way
that it went for Jeff, that you

628
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:34.199
can get your your customer service needs
met and you'll feel dirty about it,

629
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.360
but at least you got your customer
service needs met, or it goes my

630
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:44.960
way and did not mean for those
to be your customer service needs but they

631
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.559
got met anyway. I like the
thing I did, the Applebeast thing.

632
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:50.760
I felt kind of bad about it
because it just meant someone was sitting there

633
00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:53.719
like looking at that. What can
I ride back to try and like salvage

634
00:39:53.760 --> 00:40:00.400
this potentially disastrous situation because this is
because this is my fucking job, sitting

635
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:04.280
here and monitoring this Twitter feeds my
job and I can't decide if this guy

636
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.360
who was, you know, writing
about killing himself in the same breath as

637
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:13.039
Appleby's as kidding or not. So
how do I ride that fence? I

638
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.079
got really and actually I worried in
that situation because I'm just like, man,

639
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.119
it wouldn't take much to figure out
that I live where I live right

640
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.519
and like work backwards and like you
know, like a manager might appear alongside

641
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:31.840
me and sell I understand, fine, I just just yeah, exactly.

642
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.400
So it's just give me some chicken
fingers. You know what you say on

643
00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:38.320
the thing, this is you know
what this man is. Listen, this

644
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:42.440
is all really good because you know
what this is, This is real world

645
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:46.199
consequences for your internet bullshit, and
and honestly we could all use a little

646
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:51.039
bit of that. Well, like
you guys get those automated messages like like

647
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.800
you type about your iPad or something
something. Yeah, like that's the Like

648
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:58.440
it's I feel like it's kind of
nice when you get a real person who

649
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.519
is like just not trying to like
spa ammy with stuff for typing something.

650
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:05.440
So at least at least I feel
like you get all the bullshit and then

651
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.559
you get a real thing that'll happen, because I feel worse because then I

652
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:14.159
feel like I'm wasting a person's time. Yeah, I don't know, Like

653
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:15.800
every time I've gotten like one or
two of those where it's just kind of

654
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:20.840
like the weird thing, like it
never happens when I'm trying to do it.

655
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:23.079
It always happens when I'm not trying
to do it. Uh, but

656
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:25.800
usually it's for them. I don't
usually feel good about it because it is

657
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:29.800
something that it's never been Like I'm
going to kill myself and go to Applebee's.

658
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:31.920
It's always like you're gonna kill yourself
and then go to Abbe's. Yeah

659
00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:36.239
yeah, you know first and then
you know, well, you kill yourself,

660
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:37.320
You're in hell. So what else
would there to do but go to

661
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:42.000
the fucking Applebee's. Uh? Eat
shit food, but it's you guys have

662
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:45.000
some provolone stuff meat paulls that are
really it's usually because it's like, is

663
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:49.000
anybody having trouble with this router?
Blah blah blah, And then sometimes I'll

664
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.679
get I think the one I got
was like, yeah, email me.

665
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:53.440
I'm like them, you know,
Lynksist or whatever. I was like,

666
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.719
yeah, dude, I can't get
this to work. I am Lynxis.

667
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:01.119
I have a Twitter account. Do
you follow PEPSI? I have become sentience

668
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:05.960
makes she just a router sitting in
someone's house, striking an ice cold at

669
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.559
Coca Cola. And also it's at
Coca Cola. They don't have coke,

670
00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:12.880
which sucks for them. I bet
you don't want to know who's got You

671
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:15.480
don't want to follow at coke,
It's that's bad news. It's hip hop

672
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:20.960
Sensation wan cocaine. That's when you
want us just starts. Yeah, that's

673
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.000
the account you want to troll for
free products. RC Coler really has an

674
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:30.760
account. They got you, right, Greer Beverages. It's such a himself

675
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:36.559
man, Greer looking here. If
you're gonna talk a mess about my beverages,

676
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:45.719
just don't eat that dim sum restaurant
anymoreantage a fish out A reply from

677
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.159
R C Cold to be like,
man, nobody drinks enough at RC Cold

678
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:53.760
of these days. Thank you so
much. You know, hey, I'm

679
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:57.199
in this area. Do you guys
know a store where I can find an

680
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:01.960
ice cold at the old anything that
I'll quench my really thirsty you know,

681
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:12.880
sandy first summer summer thirst? Yeah, man, are you looking it up?

682
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:17.519
I am, and I'm afraid Royal
Crown may not my Crown Royale.

683
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:21.760
Well yeah, yeah, Crown if
you want to talk to if you want

684
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.760
to talk to Crown Royal, I
talk to Crown Royal all the time.

685
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:34.079
Bottles here, I'm gonna start collecting
marbles because these bags are so nice.

686
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.000
Crown Royal or if you have,
if you if you have, keep on

687
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:44.679
the Twitter side, iver played.
I just want to we's got some nuts

688
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:46.760
of bolts or something keeping in this
bag. This is a nice bag.

689
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:53.079
I'm keep the contest test this post
to like my belt, keeping all my

690
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:58.199
weed gear in this sweet at Crown
Royal bag. If you're on the fifth

691
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:01.280
floor at the Higher Agency and Clara, I'm a cut person. I keep

692
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:07.039
my smoke bombs in this crowd or
if you want to talk to the Royal

693
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:12.760
Crown Escorts Service, they they're on
Twitter. But so RCI Cola or Crown

694
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:16.639
Royal Dough from Royal. She's saying, I can register it right now.

695
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.119
I'm sure it's taking it, just
may not be an active corporate account.

696
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:27.840
Oh wait no yeah, Royal Crown
Cola is totally on Twitter. Great,

697
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:31.039
So there you go, ringing endorsement. Sure could go for some Fago.

698
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:37.519
I'm not gonna look up Fago.
Fuck you for that anyway. What were

699
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.599
we talking about? California extremely extreme. I played some Baby pac Man and

700
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:45.519
it's half video game half pinball.
It's game is amazing, fucking crazy.

701
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.960
It's weird because you kind of kind
of just like choose to make it a

702
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.800
pinball game whenever you want to.
It's like, I fuck around up here

703
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:54.400
and you can clear out levels and
it it's probably you know, there's some

704
00:44:54.440 --> 00:45:00.159
strategy to like whether you're in the
video game part or the pinball parts to

705
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:04.960
the pinball parts to turn on power
pellets, like if you go complete to

706
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.639
get power pellets up top. So
that explains a lot. Yeah, I

707
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.320
played it at the one time.
It's pretty crazy. It's really crazy.

708
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:14.400
But yeah, there's just like there
are just tubes that kind of the bottom

709
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:15.639
of the maze ors like you go
in there and it's like all right,

710
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:20.320
going down to the pinball table now, and then you just focus down there

711
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.559
instead, and it's just this weird
mini pinball table. So it's got like

712
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:25.679
flippers on the sides and then enjoy
stick in the middle. So you're just

713
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:30.639
constantly like jumping back and forth,
not constantly, but with regularity jumping back

714
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:36.280
and forth. And the it's a
bad pac Man game up top also,

715
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:38.119
which is kind of weird. It's
not a great pinball machine is down below.

716
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:42.679
No, but but I mean like
like graphically, like they couldn't get

717
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.239
as many colors into whatever the hardware
was that they were using. So like

718
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:49.360
the ghosts a one color. They
don't have eyes. Yeah, it goes

719
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.039
through all one color. They don't
have eyes, so there's just like a

720
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.920
black hole where the eye would be. Yeah, it looks kind of weird.

721
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:58.639
It just looks like some crappy home
port of pac Man. It pac

722
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:01.679
Man for the Tryst, but it's
it's a Namco release. No, it's

723
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:07.960
a Midway. It's because Midway had
the rights in the US to do pac

724
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:10.239
Man stuff for a while. So
the baby pac Man, that's like pac

725
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:15.559
Man and miss pac Man's child.
Yeah, but pac Man, but no,

726
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.480
no bad baby pac Man is young
pac Man, right, But pac

727
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:22.039
Man Junior, that's got to be
the child of pac Man. I think

728
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:27.840
Baby pac Man, I think you're
you're asking too much. I actually I

729
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:32.119
wouldn't be surprised if if Junior pac
Man was a Namco game and Baby pac

730
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:36.960
was was midway. I like baby
pac better than Junior pac Man. Kind

731
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:39.199
of it's too hard, like try
to keep track of this giant fucking because

732
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:44.480
it's it's it's pac Man. It's
pac Man. Okay, it's pac Man.

733
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:46.280
It's pac Man. Who is but
it's pac Man. Okay, so

734
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:51.519
it's pac Man. But the maze
is bigger than the screen. So when

735
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:52.960
you start like going to the right
of the left, like the screen perspective,

736
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:59.119
scrolling shittaly to the side to like
show you the part of the screen

737
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.119
you can see, and it's easy
to find yourself like on an edge where

738
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:04.360
it's kind of like trying to like
jitter back and forth, being like,

739
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:06.039
oh, you're kind of in this
frame, but you're kind of starting to

740
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:07.639
go to the rights. I'm gonna
move a little bit, but then you

741
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.039
go back some So what are you
using the move? Okay, your mind?

742
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:16.000
I mean it's it's pac Man some
delicious at r C Cola. I

743
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:21.000
don't want to drink that. Whenever
I'm playing at pac Man at Baby Pack.

744
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:23.760
I like Crown Royal and Royal Crown
mixing together. Get a little something

745
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:32.880
something Wow, RCCR Credence clear Water. Did they have the can I replace

746
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:38.239
all my pinball lights with fantastic?
They bred that Xenon machine was running.

747
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:46.360
Yes, Patrick, hadn't seen this
this crazy led technology and not you know,

748
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:50.559
it's just old and busted. You
look at that, it's like better

749
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:52.440
than real it was, I mean
because it I mean the way you were

750
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.840
describing me to me, like because
it's not the original lights just replaced,

751
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:58.960
like they're actually putting in like all
brand new things and it's just yeah,

752
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.239
really like it's stands out especially like
all like this dank dark room that we're

753
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:06.159
all in to see like this bright
and it's next to these other machines which

754
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:07.320
are you know, well taken care
of, but they're just using standard in

755
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.679
candescent bulbs like a Jurassic Park pomball
machine. Yeah, so it's like it's

756
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.000
you know, it has that kind
of soft glow to it, and you

757
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.000
see Zenon where just the you know, it's got these little LEDD lights for

758
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:21.599
each one, and it's just that
that makes every makes every pinball machine look

759
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:24.079
like Tron. Yeah, Tron for
real. Well, and using Zenon as

760
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:28.079
an example is it's probably a good
because I also had like a there's an

761
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.960
NBA Fast Break machine that also had
LEDs and it looked very nice. I

762
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.480
didn't see that, but they had
that. That twilight Zone machine, Yeah,

763
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:37.960
that was constant. Well there was
the one that was constantly being worked

764
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:42.559
on that had led Yeah, it
was only working for a couple hours.

765
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.199
Well it's own. Yeah, it's
ninety five. So that's like Posts Amusement

766
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:50.599
Park Road. Oh sure, based
on that stuff. No, it's just

767
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:55.840
based on Yeah, it's Rod Serling's
stepping out of a crazy door on the

768
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:59.079
on the back plate. No,
twilight Zone. I never actually got to

769
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.440
play twilight Zone because twilight Zone machines
were constantly being used and we're not being

770
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:05.679
used. They're broken because there's a
lot of weird moving parts on those things.

771
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:09.840
Yeah, which is why I will
never buy a Twilight Zone like Medieval

772
00:49:09.880 --> 00:49:13.719
Madness, like all these it's highly
intricate, crazy. I mean, it's

773
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:15.960
it's the problem is that, like
the things that I love about, I

774
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.519
realized you boil it down for me
too. You know two things that I

775
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:21.719
need in a pinball machine. I
want a lot of ramps. I like

776
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.880
a lot of ramps. And I
need easy multi ball. Yeah, because

777
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:29.000
multi ball is the best part about
playing pinball. So the easier it is

778
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:30.360
for me to get to that state, the happier I am with your pinball

779
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.360
machine. The amazing thing you can
do is as an operator is you can

780
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.679
actually make getting a multi ball easier
or harder. Like on my earth Shaker

781
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:42.320
machine. You can set all kinds
of stuff to just like it's just ready

782
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.599
to lock balls right out of gates
if you want, and then it'll be

783
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:50.320
way easier to do it. I
like that. Yeah, guys, what's

784
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.360
up? I need to know about
the Beavers and butthead game. Okay,

785
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:58.960
so so so they've had this cabinet
for again the past three years. Uh

786
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:02.039
of you know, the unre least
Beavis and butthead a Tory prototype. But

787
00:50:02.199 --> 00:50:06.440
the past two years, it has
not actually had the Beavis and Butthead game

788
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:08.400
in it, and one of the
ones this year was running a different game.

789
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:13.719
So so usually usually there two.
Usually there's just the one Beavis and

790
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:15.440
Butthead cabinet that it is not running
Beavis and Butthead. This year they had

791
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.800
two cabinets, one not running Beasthead
and one totally running Beavis and Butthead.

792
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:23.440
Beavis Butthead maybe the worst arcade game
I have ever personally played. Well,

793
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:28.760
it's it's it's not a complete game
per se. It's the best prototype,

794
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:30.280
right, I mean, it's you
know, they built a cabinet around it

795
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.159
and put it out like for whatever
testing purposes, looking location test stuff.

796
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:37.119
So you know, arguably, yeah, they could have done a lot of

797
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:38.840
work on it, or they said, man, we need to do too

798
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.159
much work on this, so we're
just not gonna put it out. It's

799
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:44.719
a really crappy beat him up,
but it has a really weird look to

800
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.159
it that kind of hard to describe, kind of singular. Well, it's

801
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:50.599
it's got like two it's got like
two D sprites. Yeah, but you're

802
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:53.960
going down a three D ish hallway. It's like you're going you're going up,

803
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:58.119
yeah, like like g I Joe. Yeah, but you're not like

804
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.599
locked to the bottom of the screen
like Gijo either. You're still walking around

805
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:06.400
the screen pushing the path forward as
any word, or you know, stopping

806
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:12.239
in an area and walking up and
down. But yet so everything is constantly

807
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.199
scaling. Yeah, it's times like
it almost looks like video, like not

808
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:19.639
good video, but at times it
has this the something about the way that

809
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:24.920
the thing animates. I thought just
looks like kind of awesome but really shitty.

810
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:29.000
Oh. Speaking to which before I
forget part of my later disc caall

811
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:32.239
was I now own the LaserDisc for
Mad Dog McCree. I threw that in

812
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:36.119
last night and just watched mad Dog
McRee for a while. Wait does it

813
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:37.960
out of a machine? Yeah,
Like you can't play like a bunch of

814
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:43.599
raw footage like it is just you
will just watch like all of these scenes

815
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.440
of Mad Dog McRee happened on your
laser disc player. Is fucking It's way

816
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:50.960
better than playing Mad Dog McCree.
Does it pause or something or it's just

817
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:52.039
no, it just kind of goes
from one scene into the next, so

818
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:55.239
you can just see the whole narrative
of bat mad Dog McCree. It's it's

819
00:51:55.239 --> 00:52:00.519
basically like watching the Perfect Game of
see all the like weird diversion paths,

820
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:05.239
like you only watched a couple of
chapters of it. Yeah, yeah,

821
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:07.480
that's a show you like the branches, right, So again I didn't get

822
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:10.199
deep enough into it to see how
that went, but it was sort of

823
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:13.639
you know, you come into town
and then the girl says you don't go

824
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:15.199
do target practice, so you go
out to this field where there's posts.

825
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.480
They got beer bottles on top of
them, and you just watch the beer

826
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.840
bottles magically appear and then you hear
like the breaking noise as they disappear.

827
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:23.320
It sort of like goes through that
and like guys, and it's like you're

828
00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:27.840
walking down the street and got hops
out and then go where falls to the

829
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:34.440
side and is really shitty old western
death there anyway back to Beaus And butthead

830
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:37.639
as I have to say about Matt
Dug McRee, yeah, uh looked like

831
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:44.280
bad video a weird animation style.
Yeah, and a bad game and just

832
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:46.639
a fucking just an awful, awful, awful game. Every stage is like

833
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:49.960
five minutes. I beat it,
Kat and I played the whole thing and

834
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:53.000
it took fifteen minutes maybe, so
it's about as long as Double Dragon.

835
00:52:53.840 --> 00:53:00.239
The video was was the real actors
and stuff as you judge in there making

836
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:06.760
noises. Yeah, I felt like
a bad Simpsons arcade game. Yeah,

837
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.719
but like vertically scrolling and yeah,
and you kept all the end bosses are

838
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:15.280
just like really big fat dudes that
are wildly pixelated and you're like, why

839
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:16.960
am I doing this? Well,
yeah, it'll be over the weird sense

840
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:22.880
of everything scaling as you're moving through
the environments, like there's like a five

841
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:28.199
pixel gap just kind of created in
between these art assets or I don't know,

842
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.000
it's I'm not sure why they went
that route. I don't get it.

843
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:34.360
Don't know why. Why didn't you
just make a side scrolling beat them

844
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.559
up? They wanted to get something
different. I guess pushing the outer limits

845
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.320
because that was that was the Canami's
game with the all the beat them ups.

846
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:44.960
They had that a lot. When
when was about I had to come

847
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:55.239
out, I guess I don't know
what. Foine four probably was the holographic

848
00:53:55.280 --> 00:54:00.840
time traveler game. There no what
no time travel see him much too.

849
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:05.800
Brad Muror from Double Fine, she
grin no mister Deuce Castle dah no,

850
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:08.320
mister do no Mortal Kombat. That
made me upset. There was an MK

851
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:12.880
three machine that was broken, yeah
Ultimate MK three Yeah yeah, And well

852
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:15.000
they did have a someone at a
custom build new Mortal Kombat. Yeah,

853
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:19.159
set up then that people and Boone
was giddy about it. Was happy to

854
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:22.559
be autographed. Yeah that's cool.
Yeah Yeah. Ed Bood came out.

855
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.039
He seemed like he was according to
his Twitter, it seemed like he was

856
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:28.119
having the best time. I think
he was. I think he was really

857
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:29.960
really enjoying himself. I think,
you know, he's just getting to see

858
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:32.320
a lot of stuff that you don't
see. And Ed has, you know,

859
00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:35.519
a personal connection to a lot of
that stuff. You know, he

860
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:39.039
worked on a ton of pinball games
and as well as arcade games that were

861
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:43.920
being shown there. And I think
he had said that it had been a

862
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:47.320
really long time since he had seen
a full six player grid set up.

863
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:52.000
Yeah. Grid always making a big
appearance and always pulling in the crowds.

864
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:57.719
So we played the grid with with
him. Yeah, he's really fucking good

865
00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:00.239
at the GRIZ. I did outscore
him in one of our matches. Came

866
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:04.280
in a solid second. I actually
had first stolen for me at the last

867
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.960
possible set. He was like kicking
everyone's ass and had like a messed up

868
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:09.480
track ball like that sort of stuff. Like it was just like he was

869
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.639
on a less than perfect machine.
Do you think it's still really good ripping

870
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:15.760
people? You're still really good?
Is it one guy who's got the entire

871
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:21.159
six machines or something you're gonna bring, You're gonna bring hers, I'll bring

872
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.599
mine because it's always the full six. It's got to be one dude just

873
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:27.239
owns six grid machines. I mean, like, I mean, the last

874
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:29.719
time I saw a grid set up
was like Game Works, and that was

875
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:31.559
the last place to have any of
that stuff. So imagine one of those,

876
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:36.800
because out of business, six of
those go up. Yeah, that's

877
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.280
something where I feel like California Extreme. It's like you just wait every year

878
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:42.920
for that to break out, your
grid set up because like, because where

879
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.840
else are you gonna have an opportunity
to set it up, set up your

880
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:49.400
grid machines and have that many people
come play, Yeah, and then actually

881
00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:52.920
have anyone give a shit about your
goddamn grid machines. Steve Lynne, the

882
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.880
guy you know who gave it this
and got got my key machine was done

883
00:55:55.920 --> 00:56:00.119
when he did his first auction.
But how he got into arcade stuff like

884
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.559
he saw a virtual on cabinet,
like the full full on thing go for

885
00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:08.320
a buck because basically like no,
like this guy just wanted like I don't

886
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:13.559
want to have this giant monstrosity anymore. So the buck was worth their in

887
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:15.360
because it just he was out of
his life. It's I means, it's

888
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:16.360
the same logics. Where are you
going to put that? The same logical

889
00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:21.280
that applies to like why I got
a big box of free rare laser discs

890
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:22.960
is at some point the space is
worth more than the media. And it's

891
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.559
just like yeah, yeah, this
big box, this and most of those

892
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:29.679
movies are available in in you know, much easier. Sure, and I

893
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:32.360
can probably have I probably have all
of California stream on my fucking iPad here,

894
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:37.440
you know, or majority of it
as far as the the extra software

895
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:39.079
that's being run there. So it's
like, you know, I have all

896
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:45.280
of this physical shit for what is
a pretty tiny piece of content. Well,

897
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:46.599
and there was there was a guy
that like on the on the second

898
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:52.320
day, like just woke up decided
he wanted he wanted out and just put

899
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:53.480
went down and put a bunch of
stuff that wasn't for sale for sale,

900
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:58.480
like in the misspacking machines. Just
like it's just like I'm just gonna sell

901
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:06.320
free and clear. Like the empty
truck that happens every year is on Sundays.

902
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:07.599
Some people are just like, I
just don't want to fucking bother with

903
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:10.280
getting all these machines back into the
truck. Drive him down to the warehouse,

904
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:13.800
get him out of the truck.
The warehouse is so packed that I

905
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.880
have to move like half of the
ship out to get this ship into it.

906
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.800
Yeah. I never touched any of
these machines. I should just yeah,

907
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:22.679
I should just fucking sell all this
stuff. Like obviously what what what?

908
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:24.159
It seems like what happens? And
it's it's so easy to see the

909
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:30.119
path is okay if you find some
machine, for sure, you find Bubble,

910
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:35.239
you find bust a move for for
two hundred bucks, and you're like,

911
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.760
okay, like there's this one machine
that I really want. All right,

912
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.760
I love this game. It's got
you know, big personal memory for

913
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:44.159
me. You know, it's just
you know, attachment to it, blah

914
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:46.679
blah blah. So so that's the
machine that I want, right, But

915
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:51.639
in your hunt for that machine,
you keep coming upon like it's like,

916
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:53.719
well, it's it's like a fucking
episode of lawn Order where the guys like,

917
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:57.199
well, I don't have that machine. I haven't seen that in a

918
00:57:57.199 --> 00:58:00.320
while, but I've got one of
these for you know, two hundred bucks.

919
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:00.880
It's like the move wasn't a machine
I wanted. It was just the

920
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.880
one that made the most sense,
and I settled on it. But it's,

921
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:07.800
yeah, I could see how in
the path to getting to like bubble

922
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:09.360
Bubble, which is what I would
want, or a pact man, or

923
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:15.840
like a cocktail machine, Like it's
like fifty bucks for this, I've got

924
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.800
the truck. Like it seems like
that's the path. Is the like the

925
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.039
collector who's like, you know,
I love this one machine, and so

926
00:58:22.079 --> 00:58:23.239
that's the one I care about.
So I have a warehouse, but then

927
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:27.760
I have twenty others around it that
I don't really give a shit about.

928
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:30.400
But I've picked up through trades or
someone just didn't want it or whatever,

929
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:32.679
or I thought I was going to
pull the monitor out of this and use

930
00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:37.480
it as a spare or blah blah
blah, and that's how it's always a

931
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:38.920
list of like I was going to
do this, but did this, it

932
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:43.239
seems like, and then suddenly they
have a warehouse and and they're big enough

933
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:46.280
where like if like one small thing
changes in your life, you suddenly have

934
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:51.159
no room for yeah something. It's
like, well, I used to have

935
00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:52.920
a great house and then I got
this other job and I had to move

936
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:57.199
down here, and I've got a
small house. Now I'm paying so much

937
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:00.039
for this warehouse space, and like
I'm never gonna play these again, and

938
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.000
I never played when they were out, yeah, And so then you know,

939
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:05.519
I feel like it just transfers to
somebody else who's life is in a

940
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:07.679
different spot where it's like, well, now my life is here, and

941
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:10.880
like I could own too many arcade
machines until I need to move. I

942
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:15.480
haven't turned on any of my machines
since Christmas. It's because some some people

943
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:19.400
were out and hanging out and they
like it's it's bitballing, all right,

944
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:22.679
Sure fifty bucks moved. I feel
like I would go for three arcade machines

945
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.880
in my life, Like I think
I other than the one that you are

946
00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:28.920
or the one and a half that
you already own. Yeah, no,

947
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:31.199
no, no, like three total, like that's it. Don't ask me

948
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:34.639
what they I think you were gonna
list, like what your three were?

949
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:37.880
No? No, like like three
and like you know, that's it.

950
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:39.960
I think having a good puzzle game
is good. That's why I got mine

951
00:59:40.039 --> 00:59:44.159
was because it was two players,
like it's a competitive game like and then

952
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:45.239
also the fact that I can swap
the cards. It's like, you know,

953
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:47.679
a on a space for any other
ones. But like, if I'm

954
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:52.320
gonna get one, this seems like
a good starter to buy a whole new

955
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.440
machine. I can just did anyone
see job on Sunday? No? No,

956
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:59.760
I saw him on Saturday night and
he had a wild eyed look to

957
00:59:59.840 --> 01:00:01.559
him. Last last I heard,
he may have been on a may have

958
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:07.519
been on a bed. Yeah,
in our interns room. No, I

959
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:10.440
saw him on Sunday, so he's
alive. So I didn't see him at

960
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:14.199
all on Sunday. That was a
little worried. I don't he was partying

961
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:16.320
with our interns apparently that's what I
don't recommend. And there was there was

962
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:19.760
talks of golden schlagger. I was
gonna say, don't try and drink with

963
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:22.639
Ben, like that's yeah, Like
I ran into him, and I could

964
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:25.519
tell that he had he had had
some drinks, but like didn't FaZe him.

965
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:29.400
Yeah, and he was just like, hey, it's still on top

966
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:34.000
of things. Yeah, okay good. There was like the four like dudes

967
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:37.480
around him were faded. There was
there was one guy in particular. I

968
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:42.679
won't I won't call him out,
but he was just one and he kept

969
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:45.000
bragging about, like how much you've
been drinking. I was like, here

970
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:46.159
at that point, man, the
point where you're talking about how much you

971
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:52.639
drank. I had six beers and
then we got four shots and then there's

972
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.119
like full on enumeration mode. I
don't feel it. I think I'm feeling

973
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:59.280
it. I get like that sometimes
I still get like this. I was

974
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:02.000
gonna say, though, like like
intern bend as you're drinking, partner,

975
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:07.320
Like that's the worst possible one and
one. Yeah you can't as long as

976
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.800
you're not Yeah, you can't punch
for punch that guy. That guy's got

977
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:15.599
ten points of blood. It's got
more than you. Yeah, there's there's

978
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:21.039
two of you. Yeah, inside
him, it just mass not even like

979
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:25.480
it just yeah, you could be
sitting on your own shoulders right now.

980
01:01:25.639 --> 01:01:30.639
He sweats out most of the alcohol
before he would reach It's like, so

981
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:35.119
he's so tall he wants eight an
entire cow. Yeah, wait a minute,

982
01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:39.519
the long legends ben Yeah, anyway, he's like six eight seven.

983
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:44.119
Now I'm gonna buy another machine,
sixty eight, sixty nine. He's taller,

984
01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:47.679
he's he's getting near seven. I
know that's a someday. Someday he'll

985
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:51.920
be seven feet tall, tall dude, and won't have a real giant.

986
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:57.599
Yeah that's what you want. Yeah, so forget these arcade machines. I

987
01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:00.079
want to own my real own giant. Was using too in big in our

988
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:09.960
videos. I'm going the gas giant
extreme. Anyway, you find all these

989
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:14.519
sweet giants. We keep talking about
people wanted to have giants, And are

990
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:17.960
you starting at the warehouse starting to
figure out what you wouse full of giant?

991
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:22.280
I'm sorry, I don't know what
to do. They cost so much

992
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:27.599
to be. I think the the
like social acceptable term is big people.

993
01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:31.360
I've seen the dark side of owning
too many big people. Yeah, yeah,

994
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:35.599
we've we've gone down that root.
It's dark. It's slippery slope,

995
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:37.679
slippery slope. But yeah, long
we talked about this. The more I'm

996
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:42.840
feeling like I'm gonna start hitting he
Bay, and like I said, it

997
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:45.800
was you know, I hadn't done
it since like last year. And once

998
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:49.039
you figure out that people are selling
stuff on Craiglist, it's hard not to

999
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:51.079
look when you're just like that was
the problem. That was well, that

1000
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:53.840
was what started our post California extreme
that people are doing it. Well then

1001
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:58.480
so so then this year I get
home Sunday, so California streams still going

1002
01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:00.480
on, I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna after you know,

1003
01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.280
watching Patrick and having his his glorious
run with his his bust a move machine.

1004
01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:06.920
I'm like, all right, let's
go see what's up on on Craigslist,

1005
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:08.159
And like half of those listings are
like, yeah, I'm gonna be

1006
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:12.840
at CAx this weekend, so if
you if you are here, these are

1007
01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:16.159
some of the machines that I have. So it's it's missed connections, man.

1008
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:21.719
Yeah. Yeah, I just want
to get that monitor fixed on that

1009
01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:25.559
street Fighter machine and do some your
minor work to that and then we'll see

1010
01:03:25.599 --> 01:03:28.960
what happens. All you want,
but that's not all that's gonna happen,

1011
01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:31.719
because I'm enough to get him to
get that monitor off to buy a whole

1012
01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:35.559
another machine. Your Yeah, your
desires are now, this is gonna work

1013
01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:38.800
out. That's the dark side.
I feel like that's the part that you

1014
01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:45.079
and I saw of the cannibalism arcade. Cannibalism of the Marquis and the border

1015
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.239
art on that thing are so ugly. Yeah, we're gonna swap that out.

1016
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:51.880
Yeah, that's kind of easy.
That's that's repros Like that's you don't

1017
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:54.159
necessarily have to cannibalize. Like so
much of the stuff is is being like,

1018
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:58.480
you know, people are refurbishing and
rebuilding these machines. Yeah, like

1019
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:01.039
I need to buy like a new
like like a button set and stuff like,

1020
01:04:01.079 --> 01:04:02.800
I mean, I need I need
to do a lot of cosmetic work

1021
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:05.920
on my thing and like side art
at some point. Yeah, like finding

1022
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:11.800
reprintsive side art and finding remakes of
Marquee art for kind of big games.

1023
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.599
Aren't aren't that hard to find?
It's it's stuff that's bigg and don't you

1024
01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:17.480
just get the originals? It's not
even sure. Maybe I'll just like turn

1025
01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:20.239
it into a primal raids machine on
the outside. It just happens to have

1026
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:27.719
a game. This is said.
Damn CRT is the is the hardest part

1027
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:30.880
because it's just the thing that just
define it or to replace this they're around.

1028
01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:33.679
It's I think it's it's just got
out. They're expensive. I think

1029
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:40.800
I think they're just I think they're
getting harder. People are selling whole cabinets

1030
01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:43.239
for two hundred dollars. How much
could have how much could a monitor?

1031
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:45.119
But like, but there's the things
that then people are buying those two hundred

1032
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.400
dollars cabinets just for the monitors.
Like like when we bought that women about

1033
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:50.960
that NBAJM machine, there was another
guy that's like, yeah, if no

1034
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:54.000
one else picks this up, I'm
gonna get it just for the monitor because

1035
01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:57.239
that monitor is worth two hundred bucks
to me because you have to find one.

1036
01:04:57.280 --> 01:05:00.280
No burning Yeah, you know,
it's not faded out and they're not

1037
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:02.679
making them anymore. It's just straight
up there's there's a finite number of what

1038
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:09.400
happens when they're all arcade quality CRTs
out there. There's no solution. Yeah,

1039
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:12.440
I wonder how if if someone if
it's possible to hook an LCD up

1040
01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:15.480
to it, if that's even like
an option. Eventually there was to be

1041
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:17.559
some runway. It may not be
easy but there there is a way.

1042
01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:19.880
I mean, you could basically just
like you know, hook a super gun

1043
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:24.199
up in the middle of that process
and with whatever monitor you want up top.

1044
01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:27.719
But I'm sure once we reached that
point. But that's something that frequently

1045
01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:30.400
the version of the arcade people,
Arcade purists are just gonna fight as hard

1046
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:33.679
as they can. For last year, there was a joust machine that had

1047
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:38.159
an LCD in it that was kind
of an experiment like once you're once you're

1048
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:40.760
out putting to a modern screen,
why have a cabinet at all, Like

1049
01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:45.760
you've already like sullied the integrity of
that experience. Yeah, like you're I

1050
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:49.079
think you're right. I think that
the quality of that screen, you know,

1051
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:55.239
is so key to like how those
games look like you start showing it

1052
01:05:55.480 --> 01:06:01.239
with no no that corner bending you
know, you know that that blur,

1053
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:03.440
Yeah, the phosphor glow, like
you get none of that stuff, Like

1054
01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:08.800
just you all you see is just
like the raw output of the board.

1055
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:12.960
The thing they added to Maime over
the last couple of months here is like

1056
01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.039
they've they've had scan lines all along, Yeah, they've they actually are now

1057
01:06:15.119 --> 01:06:20.599
using GPUs too. You can bend
the corners, like just pincushion it and

1058
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:24.760
you know, desaturate the image in
weird ways of you so there will be

1059
01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:30.679
solutions. People like Double Impact had
a good stuff like that too. Yeah,

1060
01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:35.280
fine, don't buy an arcade machine. I actually, I actually really

1061
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:42.039
like the way old games look on
LCDs because I actually like seeing two crazy

1062
01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:45.400
single picts. I do too,
But at that point, like I said,

1063
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:48.519
just skip the footprint of a cabinet. You know, the original controls

1064
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:53.079
I think are part of what's nice
about that stuff standing up. Yeah.

1065
01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:56.920
Yeah, there's a certain experience to
it, like I think that is that

1066
01:06:57.079 --> 01:07:00.599
is lost when you sent a couch
to the controller and you have achievements and

1067
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.280
it just changes. Putting your beer
on top of it, I hope it

1068
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:05.280
doesn't fall. Yeah, there was. There were no stickers on the Tavern

1069
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:09.480
machine that can nothing. Can you
drink on the shelf for no? No?

1070
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:12.559
I was though, Yeah, I
mean like you just like no,

1071
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:17.480
but drink uh the rest of my
bud Wiser white and blue around. Yeah.

1072
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.280
I just I made sure that Katie
was holding because it's like they're not

1073
01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:24.440
gonna tell a female to put her
beer down. Too excited to see,

1074
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:27.760
like what are they gonna do.
So I was just yeah, because you

1075
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:30.960
know it's it's you're you're right around
the corner from the hotel bar, which

1076
01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:32.400
is just right there, like if
you were holding it, they would say

1077
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:36.760
like no, but there weren't like
people patrolling like a plus, Like I

1078
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:39.960
was very careful about it too,
because like I, you know, you

1079
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:43.440
look at these things like these are
people's you know, I didn't go anywhere

1080
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:45.599
near a pimball machine. I didn't, like, I wasn't putting. I

1081
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:49.199
was like, this is these are
people's you know, babies and some Yeah,

1082
01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:51.119
like I don't want to treat it
respects. I mean there was one

1083
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:56.280
pinball machine that someone apparently like brought
their hands too hard down on the glass

1084
01:07:56.280 --> 01:07:59.800
and the glass all shattered. So
like they spend like, you know,

1085
01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:03.360
a whole afternoon picking the glass out, and yeah, I mean you can

1086
01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:06.800
imagine how that would happened. And
but yeah, and there's a lot of

1087
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:11.199
kids there, you know, people
that don't necessarily know that you're supposed to

1088
01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:14.519
be fragile. So so having the
blanket rule of no drinks or food on

1089
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:18.239
the floor makes sense. But it's
again, it's a it's an all volunteers

1090
01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:21.920
thing, so you only have so
much manpower, but it's growing, like

1091
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:25.520
it was busier this year than spending
years past. A lot of people on

1092
01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:30.239
Twitter, yeah, a lot.
It was huge number of giant bomb fans

1093
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:32.680
there. Uh so we think everyone
who came up to us and gave us

1094
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:36.199
a show. Everyone was super super
kind, very nice. Buget a bunch

1095
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:41.119
of very nice folks there. Although
it was weird. Wh'm standing next to

1096
01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:43.640
Ed Boone and dude walks up to
me like, this is Ed Boom.

1097
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.079
It's got made more combat like all
of them. I'm just some dude.

1098
01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:49.319
I'm just this dude that's talking to
Ed Boone. What do you care?

1099
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:53.600
Come on, all right, let's
talk about real video games. Vinny,

1100
01:08:53.640 --> 01:08:57.840
you didn't go to California Extreme.
What did you do? What have you

1101
01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:01.800
been playing? My good friends,
my fine feathered friend. I played some

1102
01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:08.600
more The Witcher one. I played
some more Puzzle Agent two. Oh really,

1103
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:11.359
how you liking it? Puzzles?
I've heard people saying that the puzzles

1104
01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:15.560
are actually easier. I found a
lot of recycled kind of puzzles already from

1105
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:17.880
the first one. Yeah, but
I'm not too deep into it, so

1106
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:20.439
I finished I made it through the
Puzzle Agent one again. I started two.

1107
01:09:21.399 --> 01:09:25.560
Great, right, Yeah, a
lot of fun. Uh so,

1108
01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:29.279
a lot of so having just played
that, a lot of the puzzles are

1109
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:31.520
very similar so far, and I'm
not too deep into the Puzzle Agent two.

1110
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:35.840
Uh. And I played on my
iPads, So how's that going?

1111
01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:39.279
It's great. I was thinking about
trying I've got on my iPad IV.

1112
01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:42.279
Yeah. I bought both of them
for my iPad, uh, even though

1113
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:44.680
I had the first one. Right, and all the telltale stuff is really

1114
01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:48.319
great. I've heard issues of performance
on some of the players and stuff.

1115
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:51.279
Yeah, you get over. But
when I'm saying like I could see this

1116
01:09:51.319 --> 01:09:55.039
being a game that would actually because
of the two D nature of the graphics,

1117
01:09:55.039 --> 01:09:57.520
that it would actually you know,
perform well. And the way it's

1118
01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:00.880
got that kind of like sonar pain
when you touch the screen thing it works

1119
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:02.760
out really well. Yeah that makes
sense, and all the puzzles seemed to

1120
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:06.840
work on so so that's actually a
lot of fun. Uh. And then

1121
01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:12.479
I spent the most of my time
coming kind of not specifically okay, but

1122
01:10:12.680 --> 01:10:16.960
uh I played Bastion. Oh.
Super Giant Games is based Bastions. The

1123
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:24.800
Bastion Bastions. The Bastion. Uh
So I spent a lot of time playing

1124
01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:27.680
that and made it through that.
So did I. Yeah, I wish

1125
01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:30.960
we could talk about that. As
soon as I got home from California stream,

1126
01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:34.520
I spent the rest of my waking
time planning that the bad get through

1127
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:39.279
a lot of it based on how
I saw So that that was really that

1128
01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:43.039
was my Saturday, and and most
early Sunday was was that. And then

1129
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:45.479
I started playing a little puzzle agent. I would you know, I'd kind

1130
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:47.880
of seen it a little bit here
and there. Uh, I came,

1131
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.479
I really love the way that game
looks. It's it's it's it kind of

1132
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:55.479
takes a little bit to get into. Like for me, I played it,

1133
01:10:55.520 --> 01:10:58.119
put it down, came back to
it, and then really got into

1134
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:01.199
it. Like once I got the
past the pacing, the intentional pacing of

1135
01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:03.479
a lot of the scenes, I
was like, Okay, yeah, I

1136
01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:10.640
see why these shots are way too
long, right, it's all intentional time,

1137
01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:15.439
like the engine is slow or something. No, there's no animation.

1138
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:20.439
Yeah yeah, okay, it's stillbile
is just gonna kind of dot dot dot

1139
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:25.479
dot across the screen. Uh yeah, I don't know. I just I

1140
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:28.680
love the way that that game looks. It's and the and the voice acting

1141
01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:30.720
is actually really good. I think
the voice acting is great. I think

1142
01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:34.399
it's some of Telltale's best. Yeah
characterizations. There's there's just yeah, strong,

1143
01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:38.760
strong work all around. Total total
run time for both of those games,

1144
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:44.600
couple for both well, I've definitely
I've only scratched into the first first

1145
01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:46.880
or into the second one. But
depends how much trouble you're having with a

1146
01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:51.039
puzzle, I'm sure, and it
definitely it does the the latent thing of

1147
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:56.359
like running up all like you finish
a puzzle, or you submit your your

1148
01:11:56.399 --> 01:12:00.199
response for your your your solution for
a puzzle, and it goes through all

1149
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:01.600
of the stuff until the very last
sec of like are you going to get

1150
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:06.319
approved or denied for this? And
fuck? So it just lets you build

1151
01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:09.680
up that tension as much as possible, like oh did I do it?

1152
01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:11.039
Did I do it? Did I
do it? Did I do it?

1153
01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:15.279
Yeah? But it's a yeah.
They're fun games, Yeah, fun games,

1154
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:18.640
and they're stupid cheap and they're quirky. Yeah. I played a little

1155
01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:23.760
bit of Aquaria, just the game
I bought during the Steam sale. Steam

1156
01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:28.800
sale happened Steam sale happened. I
think I owned Steam buy everything in the

1157
01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:30.520
like the past couple of years.
It was really hard for me to find.

1158
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:39.000
I almost bought that it would attachousand
dollars only for seventy dollars though for

1159
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:42.680
all of its Yeah, you'd be
a fool. Just I almost lost.

1160
01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:45.840
It wasn't all of it. It
wasn't to buy all of it would be

1161
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:50.800
actually be still okay. So I
actually I actually bought some weird stuff on

1162
01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:55.640
this team. So I bought Command
and Conqueror again. So this is this

1163
01:12:55.680 --> 01:13:00.439
is kind of this is kind of
one no no Commanded Concker e X again.

1164
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:05.840
Yeah, the Command of conquer I
bought the Command of Conquers coming out

1165
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:11.399
next year. I bought us what
was up for sale, Commando Concker four,

1166
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:15.880
Tiberian's Son, and Reddler two or
was up there. But the expansion

1167
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:18.960
packs were up there, and I
didn't own any of the expansion packs.

1168
01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:24.319
But you can't play the expansion packs
unless you own the Steam version of those

1169
01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:27.840
games. So to buy the four
dollar expansion pack, I also had to

1170
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:30.159
buy it like three dollars retail.
It was the pricing was really weird,

1171
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:34.199
like stuff like Tiberian's Son was more
money than four and maybe that makes sense.

1172
01:13:34.239 --> 01:13:36.840
I don't know, Uh yeah,
yeah, it kind of does.

1173
01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:41.840
But whatever, I spent like twelve
bucks buying like the last three years of

1174
01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:45.760
Command and Conquer or whatever. That
was kind of weird. That was probably

1175
01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:47.319
the weirdest purchase I made because all
those games are sitting on my shelf.

1176
01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:53.880
I was literally looking at them being
like I physically owned this goddamn CD.

1177
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:57.640
I'm never gonna put this in,
probably never gonna play this. I kind

1178
01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:01.159
of want to play, all right. At least the Steam versions are like

1179
01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:04.840
guaranteed to run. Ye. At
least there's there's that of like I don't

1180
01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:11.359
have to go and like try doss
box this or just whatever they was in

1181
01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:14.199
the last three years. This is
the original. Yeah, I've no,

1182
01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:16.079
no, I've got the Command of
Conquer collection on my shelf as well.

1183
01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:23.720
But again, it's were those expansions, so you'd actually you'd mentioned that that,

1184
01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:30.159
you know, you feel like you've
already bought kind of everything on Steam,

1185
01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:33.399
where like I feel like we all
kind of saw it at this Steam

1186
01:14:33.439 --> 01:14:38.079
sale of like they were back to
doing like you know, franchise and like

1187
01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:43.279
publishers specifically, like all of the
two gay games. It's like I kind

1188
01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:45.800
of did this the last time this
came around, and you've only added like

1189
01:14:45.479 --> 01:14:49.359
one or two things to this,
so it doesn't really make sense still,

1190
01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:53.439
Like the THHQ pack is like,
hey, it's awesome. You want Whole

1191
01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:58.960
Front nor all right? Well Batman
Game of the Year Edition, that's not

1192
01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:01.479
the HQ pack. Oh right,
the th HP pack there's such good like

1193
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:08.920
you look in there. The game
is routinely like seven dollars. Yeah,

1194
01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:12.600
which one home Front bat bat Man. That's a great game. Yeah,

1195
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:15.720
that's pretty good. Uh So Aquaria, I played a little bit of that.

1196
01:15:15.720 --> 01:15:16.600
I think I'll play a little bit
more and maybe we'll take a look

1197
01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:18.840
at it this week and some kind
of quick look for him. It's like

1198
01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:24.319
an underwater super Metroid. But I
just I'm not not digging the art style

1199
01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:28.479
and in like fifteen twenty minutes I
put into it, so well, I

1200
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:30.520
maybe I'll take another look at that. And uh I did buy something else

1201
01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:33.359
on this team cell. I can't
even remember. It was just one of

1202
01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:36.760
those things. It's like I only
bought a bit trip Runner, the only

1203
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:39.640
thing I bought the whole time.
Yeah, I got that too, man,

1204
01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:44.039
it was like Idi. At some
point I tried buying stuff I owned

1205
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:47.840
already. There was like King Arthur
pack, let's get that done. I

1206
01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:49.960
kind of looked. I'm talking to
Drew about He's like, what's the King

1207
01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:51.600
Arthur thing? And I'm like,
I don't know, Like it looks kind

1208
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:55.439
of cool. Let you get it, like you own this already. Been

1209
01:15:55.520 --> 01:16:00.000
like oh oh, it's kind of
bummed out because now I'm nothing about it.

1210
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:03.760
The closer that game was one just
caused too was was selling for five

1211
01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:08.159
bucks. That game is good on
the PC. Thought about it. But

1212
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:10.600
there's a lot of mods out there
for that game. Yeah, I bet

1213
01:16:10.600 --> 01:16:13.720
that's really Yeah. I saw I
saw like the Superman mods stuff, which

1214
01:16:13.720 --> 01:16:16.720
looks kind of fun. But I
didn't pull the trigger anything. I got

1215
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:21.399
nothing out of the steam Shute steam
sale, so I dodged that bullet about

1216
01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:25.960
Terraria and Amnesia before they were on
sale, and they immediately went on sale.

1217
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:30.640
Drey is like a two deed Minecraft, right, Okay, it's goal

1218
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:32.960
oriented and you have things to do, so it's actually a game. Yeah,

1219
01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:36.399
I got it. Yeah, yeah, closer to an actual game.

1220
01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:41.640
Do you find like bones of those
are like ruins and bones and stuff in

1221
01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:44.600
there. We we did a quick
look like it was like castle can make

1222
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:47.319
a giant zombies can lose to make
a giant dick out of stone their machine

1223
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:58.880
guns. Dick Stone, Yeah,
are the hardest rock known demands recently discovered.

1224
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:03.399
It's rock hard, that's right.
Indiana Jones and the dick Stone,

1225
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:06.960
not like this penis that I drew
on the napkin. Yeah, left on

1226
01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:10.960
this dude's car. Fallast of Fate. Oh, it's a map to the

1227
01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:15.199
dick Stone, like the Fallast of
Faith, Indiana Jones and the Fallast of

1228
01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:17.079
Fate, the legend of the Fallist
of Fate. Don't cove any ideas.

1229
01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:20.680
That's all I played. That's it. Yeah, I played the Steam Sale.

1230
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:25.000
I was wrapped, wrapped it up. I lost you lost its Steam

1231
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:28.800
Sale too bad? Yeah? Is
that over? Did they end it?

1232
01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:32.399
Yeah? It's like the wrap up
day or something like that. So yeah,

1233
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:36.680
st Patrick, You're just you're just
in bust to move land right now.

1234
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:41.199
No, I've been playing a much
of Shares of the Damned, which

1235
01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:43.960
is great? Is it great?
Start playing that? Yeah? Bought it.

1236
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:45.359
Yeah, a couple of weeks ago, like every time I played a

1237
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:47.239
student game, I'm like, I
really want to like this more than I

1238
01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:50.399
like this, Like I'd rather just
watch someone play it, because like student

1239
01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:54.199
games have a great style and sent
to humor, but the gameplay is just

1240
01:17:54.199 --> 01:17:57.359
dog shit yeah, and like and
nowhere here is too Like the end you're

1241
01:17:57.399 --> 01:18:00.960
fighting like twenty minute battles where you
just shaking this and I'm like, what

1242
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:04.239
am I doing? This isn't even
funny? Uh yeah, McCamy held up

1243
01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:08.119
his side of the bargain, which
I was the damn And it's it plays

1244
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:11.560
like R four, like slightly refined, but not like not enough to the

1245
01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:14.920
point that it is caught up with
like what Gears of War did with what

1246
01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:17.600
sport. It still feels like it's
it's refined to what so Like I really

1247
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:20.800
not that I'm a big resident evil
guy to begin with, but I really

1248
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:25.720
didn't like R four because I still
didn't like the controls okay, but Shadows

1249
01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:28.600
of the damn it at least feels
like like the refinements they did make.

1250
01:18:28.760 --> 01:18:31.319
It's an evolution of to where I'm
like, Okay, I can I can

1251
01:18:31.399 --> 01:18:35.439
enjoy this? Ya gonna be like
it is it genuinely enjoyable or is just

1252
01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:38.199
adequate. No, No, no, no, I think I think it

1253
01:18:38.279 --> 01:18:41.840
is. Well, it goes like, is it good enough to keep you

1254
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:45.279
going? Or are you actually having
fun? Like the gun play is the

1255
01:18:45.319 --> 01:18:48.159
distinction I'm making is are you having
fun just through the act of shooting or

1256
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:51.960
is it just a means to see
more of the crazy shit? Yeah,

1257
01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:55.479
it would not hold up without the
crazy. Yeah, would you play this

1258
01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:58.079
game without the student us? No, I'm saying no. But that's also

1259
01:18:58.119 --> 01:19:01.119
why also end of the Bar as
well, which is what all I was

1260
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:04.520
looking for. I was not looking
for like a necessarily terrifically playing game,

1261
01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:08.720
but what I wanted was like an
all right playing game with all studas wagonist.

1262
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:11.760
And this is really like studed channeling
like Clive Barker, like their it's

1263
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:15.920
just weird demonic's sexual perversion all over
the place. But and it also is

1264
01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:20.039
great because it proves that like juvenile
humor can be good if it's well written,

1265
01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:24.720
like Duke Duke Forever kind of made
me feel like maybe maybe it doesn't

1266
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:27.560
work anymore, Like maybe I'm just
past it and it just turns out like

1267
01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:29.800
the old Man. Yeah, No, it turns out it was just shitty

1268
01:19:29.800 --> 01:19:33.840
writing and and like like weird rape
jokes like aren't cool? Uh, but

1269
01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:38.880
yeah, and Shot the damn just
like really fun to play like rape jokes,

1270
01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:42.359
yeah, like the best rape jokes
in fact, lots of ghost rape

1271
01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:46.039
jokes, okay, uh yeah,
And well you know it was translated by

1272
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:49.039
eight four. Uh you know that
Mark McDonald, John Riccardi, those guys

1273
01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:54.720
so uh definitely like you can you
can tell that like the humor that they

1274
01:19:54.760 --> 01:19:58.520
were probably attempting to go from the
Japanese version. An American person really looked

1275
01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:00.760
it over and found a way to
make it makes sense. And the voice

1276
01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:08.479
acting is also across the board.
Great, and the guys Garcia and and

1277
01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:13.079
every time he gets to a boss, like the punchline is Garcia fucking Hotspur

1278
01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:17.319
and then it just zooms in his
face with this giant boner guncas Great.

1279
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:20.800
I didn't think that they could do
themselves. With Travis touchdown. I was

1280
01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:23.640
like, that's it, best video
game you that's it? Yeah, just

1281
01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:25.760
close close it up, close up. Shot. Can't make a better video

1282
01:20:25.800 --> 01:20:29.680
game character in name than that,
but Garcia Hotspur. So I haven't meaning

1283
01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:30.880
to get back to Shadows the damn. We did a quick look of it

1284
01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:33.239
probably like about the first forty five
minutes or something like that. Yeah,

1285
01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:38.399
yeah, and it seems awesome,
but my worry was that it a lot

1286
01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:41.000
of it would get into the whole
like, oh, you're getting hurt in

1287
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:43.680
this area, you need to quickly
find the goadhead and light up the area,

1288
01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:46.279
and that would get really tedious.
Like that seems yeah, I mean

1289
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:50.399
it definitely relies a little traveling on
that mechanic, but each level is no

1290
01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:54.720
longer than fifteen twenty minutes, so, like you, you kind of go

1291
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:57.720
through it, and it also buries
it up wildly, like though there is

1292
01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:00.279
at one point you go through a
sequence where you know, there's sort of

1293
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:03.960
like Papercraft looked at has When you're
at the level select that becomes a two

1294
01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:08.600
D sized rolling shooter and you're just
flying through the air using all of the

1295
01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:11.680
same mechanics that you do in the
three D game, like shooting these goat

1296
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.920
heads for light areas, and you're
doing it in this two D world.

1297
01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:17.640
It's yeah, again, it's all
the crazy enough student with like someone that

1298
01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:21.720
like knows competent game design, and
I think if student can it's too bad.

1299
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:25.039
At mccamie now has his own you
know that was the last project he

1300
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:29.319
was doing with Grasshopp. Right now
he's got his own studio game he was

1301
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:34.319
owned by Xenmax. So but yeah, hopefully if if it is a bold

1302
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:38.079
future for student, if he can
have people that sort of know what they're

1303
01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:42.039
doing and shoot the damn is well
worth paying because he's like a designer to

1304
01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:44.479
guest star on all of his games. Yeah, he's like a guy that

1305
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:46.199
cut these an ideas guy. He
comes in, he like he sprinkles the

1306
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:48.039
little sudo magic. I mean,
I love that it's called the stud of

1307
01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:53.960
fifty one joint. That's it's an
excellent it's an excellent reverentation. Yeah,

1308
01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:57.840
that's really funny. And I wonder
like what his influence is because like there's

1309
01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:01.239
also a creative director that was not
Suita, Like I wonder what the hierarchy

1310
01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:04.000
is of that, Like if Suda
just sort of like Garcia otspur Go.

1311
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:08.840
Yeah right right, like he's purely
just he said I want to be a

1312
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:12.000
helicopter and then that was it,
yes, and then left. Yeah.

1313
01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:15.359
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that game
bombed. So if if you if you

1314
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:17.880
are on the fence of like maybe
this game, like it's definitely worth forty

1315
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:20.399
dollars, she's probably worths quickly to
go. Well, has anybody gotten the

1316
01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:25.880
impression that that was a relatively limited
run? I saw some message for chatter

1317
01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:29.000
saying like maybe they didn't print all
that many copies because they weren't so sure

1318
01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:30.399
how it was going to do,
and then sure enough it didn't sell that

1319
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:34.319
well. It's also just really depressing
considering that, like that when he was

1320
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:36.640
doing the a Partners thing all over
again, kind of rebooting it like this

1321
01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:40.640
is one of those games like the
Marching Deal that they were like, you

1322
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:45.640
know, because it's it's very unlikey
to comy and and and suited to come

1323
01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:48.520
talk about it. At that point, it was a week game too,

1324
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:51.399
like it was a multiplatform week game. Because this game has actually been my

1325
01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:55.960
understandings, rebooted a couple of times
before it's become the game that it is

1326
01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:59.640
now. But yeah, it's it's
just a really terrific game. It's really

1327
01:22:59.640 --> 01:23:03.680
funny, and it looks gorgeous and
not to be the the armchair product manager,

1328
01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:08.079
but I will say that Shadows of
the Damnes a name. It's a

1329
01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:11.640
terrible name. It's just it does
not it does not allow that game to

1330
01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:15.039
to kind of pop out the way
that it like put a subtitle auction like

1331
01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:23.920
Shadows of the Damned Storm Rising Unleashed
Storm Rising, Unleashed Rising Storm. No,

1332
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:27.920
Storm Rising Unleashed is already a pro
Crown Crown Royal Rising Storm, the

1333
01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:31.239
Storm Rising Storm Storm. She just
Credence Clearwater Revival Presents, all right,

1334
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:36.279
workshop an actual better name for that
game. Garcia fucking Hotspur. They just

1335
01:23:36.279 --> 01:23:43.359
got Garcia effing Hotspur, the hotspurker
Yeah, chadows are the damn the Hotspur

1336
01:23:43.479 --> 01:23:46.359
Chronicles. There you go, the
Hotspur Conspiracy. Yeah, hot Spurs.

1337
01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:53.520
How about Boner Storms, Yeah,
yeah, Boner Storms. That's already an

1338
01:23:53.520 --> 01:24:00.520
EA partners game with bullet Storm.
I'm just Boner I don't know. Can

1339
01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:04.800
you put that on the cover.
It don't pull a Boner suit. Enjoy

1340
01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:12.039
it. It sounds more like a
board game than Don't Wake Daddy. How

1341
01:24:12.079 --> 01:24:14.880
about this pac Man Ain't gonna work? I like that. Let's go with

1342
01:24:14.920 --> 01:24:20.680
it. Halo, how about that'll
never work? Madden NFL twelve Okay,

1343
01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:24.079
yeah, that's they should have done. It's like, oh, we got

1344
01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:27.560
an NFL lockout, so you know, it's just like in the case the

1345
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:30.039
game gets rained out. They just
show mash reruns, you know, with

1346
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:34.600
all the football rained out. It's
like, here's this horror movie. I

1347
01:24:34.640 --> 01:24:43.479
guess I don't know enjoy play it. I will. I bought it already.

1348
01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:45.079
Don't let it go in your backlock. It's a good game. I

1349
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:53.239
will try not to. Is the
last La Noir case out yet? Yeah,

1350
01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:55.640
that one's not out, and b
I want to say there's one more.

1351
01:24:56.439 --> 01:25:00.479
There were four total, right at
least. Well, there's like I'm

1352
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:03.199
riding this razor to thin line here
between, like waiting for all the dealcy

1353
01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:09.720
to come out and forgetting that game
exists and you're gonna wanted to play it.

1354
01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:12.960
Yeah, you're gonna have to,
yeah, come back up. But

1355
01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:15.600
yeah, but it's it's whether or
not I'm gonna play it anywhere close to

1356
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:17.800
this voice at this point. I
mean, the way that the case is

1357
01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:20.960
integrated into the storyline is pretty elegant. I think it's just wait and do

1358
01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:25.199
that. Right, there's there.
It's like the longer I wait, like

1359
01:25:25.399 --> 01:25:28.560
it's gonna be September and there will
be games I'm reviewing again. That's true,

1360
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:31.279
August. I want to say that
I'm gonna try to play nothing in

1361
01:25:31.319 --> 01:25:35.239
August. I want to game three
August because I'm I'm there's games coming out

1362
01:25:35.239 --> 01:25:39.800
in Aust. I want to say
there's something up, but I'll put it

1363
01:25:39.800 --> 01:25:42.439
out here right now, so you
guys know, August, Yeah, take

1364
01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:47.000
some vacation. I'm not gonna play
video games on my vacation. Do if

1365
01:25:47.039 --> 01:25:53.199
you play anything else. I played
some Star Castle, I played, uh,

1366
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.439
play Pepper two, play some Pepper
two, play some mouse Trap.

1367
01:25:57.039 --> 01:26:00.159
That was pretty good. Mouse should
let Barker, Buckner and Garcia know,

1368
01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:06.920
Hey, here's a master. Yeah
you know what. So I saw a

1369
01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:10.000
lot of that. I saw a
lot of like in fact, one dude

1370
01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:13.520
at one point, multiple points actually, like I was talking to someone in

1371
01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:15.279
the middle of the island. Guy
just like walks up to me and asked

1372
01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:17.920
me, like, where's the baby
pac Man machine. I'm like, it's

1373
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:20.319
actually you're just right down here on
the right. And he walks off,

1374
01:26:20.479 --> 01:26:23.920
and I'm like, I'm gonna go
follow this dude, because he was so

1375
01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:27.399
intense about knowing where this baby pac
Man machine was and I kind of want

1376
01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:29.840
to play some Baby pac Man.
Let's go see what the line is like.

1377
01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:33.600
And he was there fucking intensely taking
like he had bit his giant DSLR

1378
01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:36.520
and he had like the huge lens
on it. He was taking just like

1379
01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:42.279
chronically, he just exquisite photos of
like every tiny element of this cabinet that

1380
01:26:42.279 --> 01:26:45.960
he possibly could And then like he
like he gets that and he like pulls

1381
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:47.640
out his iPhone and he pulls up
some text document. He's like strolling through

1382
01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:49.880
it and he spins around to me. He's and he's like, where's the

1383
01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:54.640
video pinball machine? Like as she
gets down here, just go all the

1384
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:56.560
way down and we'll be on the
left. You'll see it. They're right

1385
01:26:56.560 --> 01:26:59.319
next to each other. And he
runs off to go take a shitload of

1386
01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:01.520
photos that I saw dudes who were, uh, this is actually at the

1387
01:27:01.520 --> 01:27:05.399
Tron machine. Yeah, did anyone
play that? I have played Tron,

1388
01:27:05.960 --> 01:27:11.079
but yeah, not not not on
this trip. It's a pretty good machine

1389
01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:15.760
that that one. In particular,
I've played that one years past. Dude

1390
01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:20.560
had taped up a crazy microphone onto
the fucking speaker grill and was like capturing

1391
01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:26.319
game audio through the speaker grill for
so so Mike questions, like what are

1392
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:30.439
like I see all these dudes running
around these big cameras and like weird recording

1393
01:27:30.439 --> 01:27:32.560
devices and set up something. Where
are you going? What are you came?

1394
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:36.600
Like? Taking taking cabinet photos makes
perfect sense, like that there's not

1395
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:42.000
enough great high res photography of arcade
cabinets out there, sure that I agree

1396
01:27:42.039 --> 01:27:44.760
with, And especially as these parts
get harder and harder to find, it

1397
01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:46.840
makes sense that like our like side
art and stuff like that, we're gonna

1398
01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:50.199
need to start reproducing a lot of
this stuff. And they do that,

1399
01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:54.399
you know, some extent, but
you know it's more and more of that

1400
01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:56.800
starts to happen. But to do
that, you're gonna need to take that

1401
01:27:56.840 --> 01:28:00.199
baby pac Man machine apart and photograph
the you know, scan it, yeah,

1402
01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:02.079
yeah, or you know, do
what you can, yeah, exactly.

1403
01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:09.319
But like audio from the game,
like there are better slash you know,

1404
01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:13.560
quasi legal I guess I should say, ways to get straight up digital

1405
01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:16.960
audio out of a lot of arcade
machines. So like doing that to a

1406
01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:19.479
Tron machine when you could just as
easily, I mean, well whatever with

1407
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:23.119
Tron in particular, you could just
you know, you could buy an Xbox

1408
01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:28.000
by Tron for Xbox. But there's
issues of of you know, quality of

1409
01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:30.159
emulation, like we we'd see time
and time again with emulated old games of

1410
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:34.079
like being right the pitch isn't quite
right on this because someone didn't have an

1411
01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:41.159
original to compare it too. So
like I'm pretty sure maname Tron's good so

1412
01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:44.640
so because of me, But I
mean because of these inconsistencies, like I

1413
01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:46.960
can. That's that's why this is
the benefit of recording a lot of the

1414
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:49.840
stuff is you know, to kind
of prove if there's bugs and the emulation

1415
01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:55.119
to go fix it and sure that. But still it's still bizarre to see

1416
01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:57.520
something like, you know, this
dude is not there to have fun.

1417
01:28:57.600 --> 01:29:00.439
This dude is there to document as
many of these machines as he possibly can.

1418
01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:02.640
Maybe that's fun for him though,
I mean, maybe he's from the

1419
01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:05.640
future and that's his mission. Yeah, I think this is kind of the

1420
01:29:05.640 --> 01:29:10.880
future for arcade machines and need to
bolt these machines together to stop nuclear war

1421
01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:15.199
in twenty years, but all the
machines will have been purchased by one of

1422
01:29:15.319 --> 01:29:16.520
us, and you know, we
won't be talking to each other, so

1423
01:29:16.560 --> 01:29:19.319
we won't agree to get the machines
back together. I need to go back

1424
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:23.199
in time and take pictures of baby
pac Man. The only thing I can

1425
01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:25.680
see the future. All right,
you got a clearance? Go ahead.

1426
01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:30.600
Also, where's Ryan Davis? Oh? No, we need to kill him.

1427
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:36.560
That whole fifth floor tobacco. Everything
spun out of control. After that,

1428
01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:44.479
we were on a course towards utopia. Bad left turn happened. Jaw

1429
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:48.920
forsook us after he was gonna be
our future president, but then he got

1430
01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:57.159
busted on this pot Wrath kept talking
about Dick Stones. Dick Stones, Brad

1431
01:29:57.199 --> 01:30:01.119
Shoemaker. How's it going, It's
going pretty well. It's up with video

1432
01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:04.760
games, video games, anything,
I understand. We're here to talk about

1433
01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:10.479
him. How's the StarCraft going?
That's oh? I played with I guess.

1434
01:30:10.479 --> 01:30:12.800
I don't know if you guys know
who these people are, but probably

1435
01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:15.880
not. I played with most Tacular. He's the guy who commentates casts all

1436
01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:19.960
of the community tournaments. Uh.
And I actually also played with the Giant

1437
01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:28.319
Yes, and he's a pretty pretty
good accomplished caster of StarCraft and also good

1438
01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:30.319
at the game. Uh. And
another friend of his, Cryptic, And

1439
01:30:30.359 --> 01:30:33.680
also that the Moorn guy, who
is like semi pro and is in the

1440
01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:40.119
top two hundred and America. I
played with him yesterday that I was nervous.

1441
01:30:40.119 --> 01:30:42.840
I was nervous on the team with
that guy. Well, it didn't

1442
01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:48.880
really matter because he fucking carried us
every game. The guy's fucking good sort

1443
01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:51.840
of just like we're gonna march to
victory every time. Let me reiterate,

1444
01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:56.880
he has one of the two hundred
best UH StarCraft two players on the continent

1445
01:30:56.880 --> 01:30:59.279
of North America. I means there
are one hundred and ninety nine people out

1446
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:01.479
there just to take you. At
last I saw he was like number forty

1447
01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:03.640
or something. I don't know.
That may have changed. What do you

1448
01:31:03.680 --> 01:31:06.560
do in a situation where you were
just getting carried? Like what what is

1449
01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:13.399
you just work? Do you just
work on the economy? And those guys

1450
01:31:13.439 --> 01:31:17.880
have better economies than me and are
macrowing better? And our baby give you

1451
01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:21.560
like tasks like go build Oh,
I mean, you know a little bit

1452
01:31:21.560 --> 01:31:26.079
here and there, you know,
like I'm making an observer. I saw

1453
01:31:26.199 --> 01:31:28.840
I saw that the Vikings. I
saw that. Actually I saw that one

1454
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:32.079
guy was sending like eight banshees around
the left because I had made an observer

1455
01:31:32.159 --> 01:31:34.800
and send it over and I contributed
that piece of information. Thank you,

1456
01:31:35.319 --> 01:31:40.800
Intel. And then you got captured
and they held you. Franto made a

1457
01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:43.359
lot of vikings, So I made
a lot of blink Stalkers at one point.

1458
01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:45.159
I mean that sounds kind of desperate. Help sound. No, I'm

1459
01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:48.399
just saying. I'm just saying it
doesn't really matter how well I played.

1460
01:31:48.439 --> 01:31:53.199
And you have people like that on
your team there, you know, people

1461
01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:58.399
get pretty good at that game anyway. Uh, anything else also has mentioned?

1462
01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:01.760
Uh? I also, I too
played through finished Bastion. Can we

1463
01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:04.920
speak about Missusplosion Man. We can't
write yes, because we can't talk about

1464
01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:09.720
baston even though I wish we could
beginning of the summer arcade. Actually,

1465
01:32:09.720 --> 01:32:18.279
don't think it's true. No,
that's not Misplosion fashion, that's your your

1466
01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:25.399
Monday video was wrong. I thought
it was now I didn't know. I

1467
01:32:25.439 --> 01:32:30.039
saw the comments on video idiot,
which is what all the comments say.

1468
01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:33.600
But yeah, in that case,
they're there. It's founded. Displosion Man

1469
01:32:33.800 --> 01:32:39.920
is a lot like Explosion Man.
She's got a bone. He has already

1470
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:43.680
know the answer to that question.
Don't even ask it. Uh, mechanically

1471
01:32:43.720 --> 01:32:47.199
not much. Explode pretty much exactly
the same way. I mean that game

1472
01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:50.039
works the same. Yeah, it's
got roughly the same number of levels.

1473
01:32:51.039 --> 01:32:58.039
The secret Yes, yes, all
right, they definitely dressed it up a

1474
01:32:58.039 --> 01:33:00.520
lot, which going into it,
I was all four. I was like,

1475
01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:03.119
dude, this looks like the Super
Mario World to Splosion Man's like Super

1476
01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:05.680
Mario Brothers. You know, it's
got it's got a world map, it's

1477
01:33:05.680 --> 01:33:10.279
got like you said, secret exists
that lead to hidden levels. There's an

1478
01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:13.560
achievement for finding the star Road that
sounds awesome. I don't know what it

1479
01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:16.399
is yet. I haven't found it, but I don't know. That game

1480
01:33:16.479 --> 01:33:19.399
is not really doing it for me
the way the first one did as much.

1481
01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:23.439
Is it funny? Like its kind
of funny cantering a lot of videos,

1482
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:28.239
it's weird, like what they make
video game? So it's weird.

1483
01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:31.119
What did they What do they make
before Splosion Man? No, before Splosion

1484
01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:34.239
Man, the first one, the
mall was there. Yeah, okay,

1485
01:33:34.479 --> 01:33:39.119
so the ending of Splosion Man was
kind of like the watershed moment for those

1486
01:33:39.159 --> 01:33:43.920
guys, right, remember that ending? Yeah? Yeah, rand was the

1487
01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:46.119
videos, the random ass video that
just broke in and like, didn't did

1488
01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:48.680
they come out at some point and
say like, we have like two days

1489
01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:53.159
left and we just have to make
an ending? Yeah, drink three.

1490
01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:55.520
We were talking to them. It
was just like a panicked like, fuck,

1491
01:33:55.560 --> 01:33:57.600
we have to make an ending,
right right, Like ran out of

1492
01:33:57.600 --> 01:34:00.319
money, stn't need an ending.
So I feel like it's come full purple

1493
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:03.159
now where like that's kind of what
they're about. Yeah, as a developer,

1494
01:34:03.399 --> 01:34:06.159
Well, that's the thing with with
Comic Jumper, Like Comic Jumper was

1495
01:34:06.159 --> 01:34:11.680
not an amazing game, right,
but the use of FMV was what saved

1496
01:34:11.720 --> 01:34:14.960
it, uh and and worked really
well for it. But I don't know

1497
01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:17.600
that that's something that they can totally
just make every game like that, like

1498
01:34:17.640 --> 01:34:20.640
a game that's so hot, but
the video is really funny because at some

1499
01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:24.359
point it's like, well I could
just watch all the video on YouTube,

1500
01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:27.279
and I mean, this game's okay. It's it plays exactly like Splosion.

1501
01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:30.960
Man. It's got a few different
mechanics. So there's like trampolines, Uh,

1502
01:34:30.079 --> 01:34:34.000
there's grind rails, right, there's
a few parts where you splode like

1503
01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:36.720
into the background and do some stuff
and then splode back out. That looks

1504
01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:41.119
kind of cool. I definitely saw, you know. I just I've only

1505
01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:44.079
played like the first three levels or
something like that, and it definitely seemed

1506
01:34:44.279 --> 01:34:46.920
like it was not fucking around on
the difficulty like it's not started out hard.

1507
01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:49.640
It is harder. It's definitely hard. I mean the first game was

1508
01:34:49.680 --> 01:34:54.640
harder. Fu Yeah, but I
felt like it was like, well,

1509
01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:57.239
that's true because I mean you never
played that game before. You had to

1510
01:34:57.239 --> 01:34:59.800
get used to work like this time. This time, they if they go

1511
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:03.079
that you have played some splish man. I just feel like a lot of

1512
01:35:03.199 --> 01:35:05.760
not all the level design, but
some of the level design is kind of

1513
01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:09.840
sloppy compared to the first game.
The first game felt really tight to me,

1514
01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:12.520
Like it felt like as long as
you were hitting your cues, you

1515
01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:15.000
know, as long as you were
exploding on top of the little barrels and

1516
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:16.840
all that stuff, like you were
gonna make it to the end by timing

1517
01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:19.560
all that stuff right. It feels
like there are a lot of cases in

1518
01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:24.520
this one where they're like camera angles
are off or like weird things are like

1519
01:35:24.760 --> 01:35:28.000
they have so the game looks a
lot better, and they've got a lot

1520
01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:30.039
more stuff going on, like the
fourth round and like the little explosion effects

1521
01:35:30.039 --> 01:35:32.960
and stuff like that. Best stuff
actually gets in the way of just seeing

1522
01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:35.800
where you are from time to time. Lots of weird little stuff like that.

1523
01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:39.039
I feel like it just doesn't play
us smoothly. Yeah, in a

1524
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:42.600
lot of cases. But there's a
ton of video in there. Great,

1525
01:35:43.239 --> 01:35:45.479
both those Beard videos, Yes,
yes, great, both of which will

1526
01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:48.920
also apparently appear in Gunstringer. Excellent. I hope there's a new one unless

1527
01:35:48.920 --> 01:35:51.880
they shoot new ones. But when
the versions of Gunstringer they've been showing have

1528
01:35:53.039 --> 01:35:55.920
the those Beard videos in them,
that new one is pretty good. Yeah,

1529
01:35:57.199 --> 01:36:00.079
she's got a weird pension for spouting
nineties pop lyrics. Constantly got that

1530
01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:03.640
constill with few levels I played there
was definitely so weird. Yep, yep,

1531
01:36:03.760 --> 01:36:05.760
he's just a girl in the world. I guess, Yeah, I'm

1532
01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:09.520
with you. Yeah, and I'm
trying to pay in Vogue, Yes,

1533
01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:11.920
and Vogue. I was trying to
think of like the most or Yep,

1534
01:36:12.239 --> 01:36:15.359
that one's in there, all the
Cowboys gone, that one's in there.

1535
01:36:15.439 --> 01:36:20.079
Yep, some Madonna, like early
nineties Madonna. It just seems like the

1536
01:36:20.079 --> 01:36:26.439
logical counter to the Arnold Schwarzenegger.
But then there's also still that oh really

1537
01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:31.319
okay, oh man, the quick
look was a total recall. Very first

1538
01:36:31.399 --> 01:36:36.800
level is just straight up you guys, like the Predator or what because we

1539
01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:42.119
got that. I love the Predator. Then awesome, there is a great

1540
01:36:42.159 --> 01:36:47.479
total recall scene, great in keeping
with traditions. Yeah, yeah, I

1541
01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:51.680
like they have those things. Yeah, like all this stuff around their game

1542
01:36:51.720 --> 01:36:55.680
play, it seems awesome, but
it was it was definitely That was the

1543
01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:58.279
thing with Comic Chumper. It was
like a lot of stuff around Comic Chumper

1544
01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:00.760
was incredible. But the act will
you know, running and shooting and stuff

1545
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:03.159
like that, you know, and
the part where the end boss of that

1546
01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:05.960
game was just the end boss from
Splosion Man, right, it was just

1547
01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:11.960
it was just weird. Yeah,
So is there an interesting studio, like

1548
01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:15.640
I mean, like just yeah,
I wonder what their process is in terms

1549
01:37:15.720 --> 01:37:19.279
of like how that stuff gets felt
out, because I think part of the

1550
01:37:19.319 --> 01:37:21.680
sloppiness is just a result of like, this is a weird idea, run

1551
01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:24.760
with it, yeah, you know, and then sometimes it works, like

1552
01:37:24.760 --> 01:37:28.359
with Comic Jumper it didn't really work. Explosion Man, it did work Misplosion

1553
01:37:28.359 --> 01:37:30.119
Man. Is them trying to do
that over but it doesn't like I'm not

1554
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:33.520
sure what like lessons they necessarily learned
from the first one as much this is

1555
01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:38.399
just more Explosion right, It doesn't
it doesn't feel like they play tested this

1556
01:37:38.520 --> 01:37:42.199
very hard, which I'm not sure
do Like they pumped out games so fast,

1557
01:37:42.319 --> 01:37:44.880
just like if you had had if
you sat maybe like two dozen people

1558
01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:45.680
down in front of this level and
had them all go through it, and

1559
01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:48.439
it kind of observed how they approached
it, Like maybe you would have seen

1560
01:37:48.520 --> 01:37:51.560
some of these scenes showing and you
could have smooth that stuff out a little

1561
01:37:51.560 --> 01:37:55.359
bit. Yeah, Yeah, I
don't know. I'm interested to play some

1562
01:37:55.560 --> 01:37:58.880
more of that. Yeah, for
sure playing because I'm ready for a game

1563
01:37:58.880 --> 01:38:01.960
to just like destroy my favor Difficult, it's not. It's not hard in

1564
01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:04.359
the way the Super Mean Boy is
hard, which is kind of what is

1565
01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:08.800
sticking to my craw with this game. Like Super Me Boy, I've always

1566
01:38:08.840 --> 01:38:11.600
felt tough but fair, you know, sure, like you were the one,

1567
01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:14.399
you were the one that you have
such exactly and you could say that

1568
01:38:14.439 --> 01:38:16.560
about the First Splosion Man to an
extent. Yeah, for the most part,

1569
01:38:16.600 --> 01:38:18.680
there's a lot of it. There's
a lot of just trial and error

1570
01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:21.079
and memorizing these levels to get through
them. They were like there are cases

1571
01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:24.560
where you kind of have to die
to see how it works and get through

1572
01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:27.680
it the second time or the third
time or whatever. So so does it

1573
01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:33.159
still have the same Penchantford like you
know, twenty thirty second like checkpoint well

1574
01:38:33.159 --> 01:38:38.439
just yeah, just like like forward
movement sections. So this is what frustrated

1575
01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:41.479
me in the original Splosion Man,
was you You'd go through these sections where

1576
01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:43.600
it's like, okay, if you
miss any one of these, all the

1577
01:38:44.159 --> 01:38:48.279
absolutely and it's like it's a fairly
long stretch between between checkpoints, and oh

1578
01:38:48.319 --> 01:38:51.079
great, I have to go totally
still there and redo all these early parts

1579
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:55.079
that aren't the part that I fucked
up, right to get to the part

1580
01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:57.439
that I fucked up. And I
almost wondered at some point, I was

1581
01:38:57.479 --> 01:39:00.279
like, is it is a problem
with me? Like did I get lower

1582
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:01.760
at the stuff in the last two
years? But I mean again, you

1583
01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:04.800
know I played through Me Boy and
finished it, Like what was that eight

1584
01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:09.239
months ago? Done your time?
Well yeah, I mean the point is,

1585
01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:13.479
you know, I can still deal
with this stuff on some level,

1586
01:39:13.560 --> 01:39:15.359
but this is just a lot of
stuff about this is rubbing me the wrong

1587
01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:19.520
way. Like the character is so
sluggish. Still. Yeah, Like I

1588
01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:23.239
granted they like they spent a lot
of time designing the first game, you

1589
01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:25.199
know, like they put all the
work in to make it work with those

1590
01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:27.640
mechanics and stuff. I guess they
can't just like start giving you more air

1591
01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:30.439
control out of nowhere without breaking the
way all the stuff works together. But

1592
01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:33.640
like it just again, after playing
stuff like me Boy, it just feels

1593
01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:36.199
frustrating. It feels like you're fighting
the character to get where you want to

1594
01:39:36.199 --> 01:39:40.039
go from time after you play a
game that nailed it so perfectly, it's

1595
01:39:40.039 --> 01:39:43.000
it's really hard to go back to
games that are trying to emulate that sort

1596
01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:46.680
of precision and just a little bit
off the mark. Ye, but no,

1597
01:39:46.760 --> 01:39:49.720
maybe you know what you know who
I don't feel envious for is the

1598
01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:55.640
fucking super meat boy guys, because
you know it's you know, it's like

1599
01:39:55.680 --> 01:39:57.680
with any medium, like, yeah, you have all the time in the

1600
01:39:57.720 --> 01:40:00.439
world and all of your freshest and
best idea is to fucking knock it out

1601
01:40:00.439 --> 01:40:02.760
of the park on your first game. All right, what are you gonna

1602
01:40:02.800 --> 01:40:08.119
do on your second game? You've
got eighteen months go? Uh. Edmund's

1603
01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:13.880
kind of a side mill he's doing. I forget that something of Isaac's some

1604
01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:17.039
crazy, crazy collaboration with like a
couple other yeah yeah he he, I

1605
01:40:17.039 --> 01:40:19.920
mean, like, yeah, he
has that side project and then h Tyler

1606
01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:23.840
Gable, I think, is the
the other guy the Team Meet. He

1607
01:40:23.880 --> 01:40:27.279
is working on a game called Closure
that was in the IGF a couple of

1608
01:40:27.319 --> 01:40:29.760
years ago that comes out later this
year. So they do side stuff.

1609
01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:32.840
But they also do have a new
game, a new Team Meet game that

1610
01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.439
is not a sequel. They have
no interest in doing anything with Super me

1611
01:40:35.520 --> 01:40:41.560
Boy again. And uh yeah,
I mean it's apparently decently far along they

1612
01:40:41.600 --> 01:40:45.119
were. They were they almost killed
themselves at the end of Super meat Boy

1613
01:40:45.319 --> 01:40:49.600
trying to finish that because they put
so much into it. Yeah. Well,

1614
01:40:49.680 --> 01:40:53.239
yeah, not not to say that
the development process of Super meat Boy

1615
01:40:53.279 --> 01:40:56.640
was at all easy. I'm just
saying that, you know, it's they

1616
01:40:56.680 --> 01:40:58.439
made of money. I think they're
in a good place. I think they

1617
01:40:58.439 --> 01:41:01.840
can breathe. It's it's smart of
them to try and differentiate, also to

1618
01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:06.399
go and get whatever weird yayas they
might have out inside projects. Yeah,

1619
01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:11.720
apparently they made more way more money
on the Steam version than XBLA, yes,

1620
01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:14.760
which, yeah, sure it was
surprising at first me. But I

1621
01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:17.079
wonder if they I wonder if that
biases them towards the PC for their development.

1622
01:41:17.279 --> 01:41:21.239
From your on, well, I
bet the I mean in some extent,

1623
01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:25.680
wouldn't you say that, like the
PC version benefited from whatever QA it

1624
01:41:25.760 --> 01:41:28.920
had to go through on the Xbox
that they had to pay for. Maybe,

1625
01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:30.399
I mean it was it was pretty
They probably made a lot more money

1626
01:41:30.399 --> 01:41:34.000
on it because there weren't as many
costs that there are not as much money

1627
01:41:34.039 --> 01:41:36.680
going out to other people other than
Valve. Yeah, I guess so.

1628
01:41:36.720 --> 01:41:39.840
I mean that game was not sound
when it came out on the PC,

1629
01:41:39.920 --> 01:41:43.159
if that's what you mean. Like
basically, yea, they do a lot

1630
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:45.720
of patch patch it very quickly when
the game came out on on Steam,

1631
01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:50.119
but then they also added a insane
level of value. There's patches totally in

1632
01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:54.199
addition to fixing fucked up stuff.
It's the version to get absolutely if you're

1633
01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:57.000
going to go gold on. But
it's a mispelasure man has credit as ten

1634
01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:00.880
bucks. It's pretty low barrier to
entry. Uh. And there's a lot

1635
01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:01.720
of funny shit in there. I
mean, you know, like all the

1636
01:42:01.800 --> 01:42:04.680
videos to buy and stuff like that. It's kind of the it's it's the

1637
01:42:04.920 --> 01:42:10.359
it's the question of what you're coming
to splod or to misplosion man. Although

1638
01:42:10.399 --> 01:42:13.760
Comic Jumper probably was not the hardest
game ever made, right, It wasn't.

1639
01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:16.880
It wasn't. I did not find
it at all engaging to play.

1640
01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:20.479
You're just going was It was a
tough game to review because there were a

1641
01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:25.640
lot of things I totally loved about
Comic Jumper, but like playing it was

1642
01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:28.800
just kind of like it's it's okay, you know, I didn't hate it,

1643
01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:30.399
but it was it was super repettive. Yeah, Like the gameplay itself

1644
01:42:30.479 --> 01:42:33.000
wasn't like the Strong Suit, you
know, it was like all their other

1645
01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:36.520
stuff that that maybe fall in love
with a lot of things about that game.

1646
01:42:38.640 --> 01:42:44.119
Just go finish the moll at some
point, like the mall I tried

1647
01:42:44.119 --> 01:42:47.079
to play if you played in perspective
there is the first game. Yeah,

1648
01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:50.479
yeah, you have to come.
I was playing it then it wasn't.

1649
01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:54.199
I went back and I went back
and played it after I played Splosion,

1650
01:42:54.199 --> 01:42:55.479
Man, I was like, oh, I want I want to check that

1651
01:42:55.479 --> 01:42:57.960
out. And you have to play
with you you have to play with a

1652
01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:00.479
certain perspective otherwise. Yeah, it's
like it was an IGF game. You

1653
01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:02.680
have to be willing to make some
concessions going into it. It's like,

1654
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:05.159
okay, yeah, these guys have
never made a game before, but then

1655
01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:09.880
again, at least not seeing what
these guys make games before, just not

1656
01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:12.159
maybe as as a company. I
don't know, but I mean, you

1657
01:43:12.159 --> 01:43:14.600
know, seeing what some other indie
studios are doing for their first games.

1658
01:43:14.720 --> 01:43:16.079
It's now we're just going to play
as a curiosity. They just to enjoy

1659
01:43:16.079 --> 01:43:20.600
it. It's so far removed from
what they're up to. Now's become their

1660
01:43:20.640 --> 01:43:26.359
thing. They have a traumatic like
they have a style that's actually like kind

1661
01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:29.039
of a really cool thing about them
is that they have developed a style that

1662
01:43:29.079 --> 01:43:33.239
goes across all their games. I
just so they don't go to there's a

1663
01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:35.760
really easy way to rely on that
a little too has long as it leads

1664
01:43:35.800 --> 01:43:39.760
up to them just actually making an
FMV, this will be fine. Are

1665
01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:42.399
they the ones to do night Trap? I think I think they're the only

1666
01:43:42.439 --> 01:43:46.479
ones really dabbling, and they certainly
have right now. It's been brought up

1667
01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:54.479
repeatedly and heavily to the Double Fine
guys and to Too. Yeah, definitely

1668
01:43:54.520 --> 01:43:57.520
brought up to them. We're telling
anyone who will listen, yeah, that

1669
01:43:57.520 --> 01:44:03.359
they should make us Sega talked to
Sega about at some point it wasn't I

1670
01:44:03.359 --> 01:44:11.520
don't know entirely negative. Yeah,
yeah, I guess I guess you could

1671
01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:15.359
do that. That's one way you
could go. All right, text that

1672
01:44:15.359 --> 01:44:16.359
guy, see if you can talk
him down on the rights a little bit.

1673
01:44:16.479 --> 01:44:19.319
Yeah, yeah, fuck it,
we'll just make it. See if

1674
01:44:19.399 --> 01:44:24.520
we can get nitrop for two hundred
bucks. Maybe we can trade a Bubble

1675
01:44:24.520 --> 01:44:32.439
Bubbles cabinet for the night trip with
your bust Move cabinet for the good for

1676
01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:35.800
the rights, we'll film. We'll
film the Night Trap sequial in your apartment.

1677
01:44:36.159 --> 01:44:39.760
Yeah, that'll be the trade off. Who's who's in the data playto

1678
01:44:39.920 --> 01:44:46.680
role? I'll figure something out.
Yeah, CGN Plato Alice, we'll use

1679
01:44:46.760 --> 01:44:53.680
the Yeah, how'd that go that
good? Huh? Yeah, I'm kind

1680
01:44:53.680 --> 01:44:58.079
of glad I didn't buy that game, No talk about it. I never

1681
01:44:58.119 --> 01:45:00.760
got over the camera stuff in the
combat. Just always bothered you always bothers.

1682
01:45:01.159 --> 01:45:03.279
Yeah, I just didn't. I
still want to play for the art.

1683
01:45:03.359 --> 01:45:06.439
Yeah, that's great. It's it's
what to play it for is the

1684
01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:12.319
art? Like like I felt like
the platforming stuff is dark, man,

1685
01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:16.039
the game is dark. It's darker
in the very end, is so crazy

1686
01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:20.319
dark. I thought Fear Too is
dark? Nope, fu that it's darker

1687
01:45:20.439 --> 01:45:24.560
this is way darker. Is there
any kind of like ghost sexual assault?

1688
01:45:24.560 --> 01:45:29.119
The ghost not ghosts baby, but
sexual assault. Well, not want to

1689
01:45:29.159 --> 01:45:33.279
talk about this anymore anyway. The
camera just in the combat was driving me

1690
01:45:33.319 --> 01:45:38.399
bananas at the end, just a
lot of just like you're playing the PC

1691
01:45:38.600 --> 01:45:41.600
version, PC version, what they
get with the game, gain control pad.

1692
01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:44.960
I'm shirt it works normally as it
should. I don't know. I

1693
01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:47.560
just didn't bout dark, but it
does get dark. I put that game.

1694
01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:50.720
I put that game down. I
was like, I don't feel good.

1695
01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:55.279
You go hug my wife. I
don't think. I don't want to

1696
01:45:55.359 --> 01:45:58.800
hug anybody. I don't want to
touch anybody. Affn't want to touch me.

1697
01:45:58.880 --> 01:46:00.960
I didn't want anybody to know I
finish this. It's kind of want

1698
01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:08.520
to turn it off and oh yeah, it's good stuff and it works because

1699
01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:13.640
they commit to it. Yeah,
they And that's you know, that's something

1700
01:46:13.680 --> 01:46:15.800
I'm talking back to the student fifty
one thing like I had to wonder because

1701
01:46:15.880 --> 01:46:24.479
there's someone else's the creative director of
uh Alice Madness returns an American McGhee game.

1702
01:46:24.720 --> 01:46:28.880
Well, at some point, running
an independent studio like that, a

1703
01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:30.319
lot of your job is running the
studio. Sure, so I was.

1704
01:46:30.439 --> 01:46:33.119
It's it's a question of like what
did America, Like, what was American

1705
01:46:33.159 --> 01:46:35.880
McGee's input on right, right,
there's just points in that game where I'm

1706
01:46:35.880 --> 01:46:38.840
like, I think I know what
you're trying to tell me, but I

1707
01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:41.760
don't want to believe what you're trying
to tell me. Nope, that's exactly

1708
01:46:41.800 --> 01:46:45.239
what. It's like, you really
are just really what you want to tell

1709
01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:46.640
me. It's like, yeah,
I want to tell you. I'm just

1710
01:46:46.680 --> 01:46:49.039
gonna show you again. Now we're
just gonna cut to the quick. Just

1711
01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:51.680
here it here, it is.
Oh, this has sold me in the

1712
01:46:51.720 --> 01:46:57.520
game way more than anything else could
have possibly done. It's just the it's

1713
01:46:57.560 --> 01:47:00.800
the constant refrain of this game.
It's just like six hours too long.

1714
01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:03.439
That keeps putting me off. Yeah, he's also to Softie for the stuff.

1715
01:47:03.439 --> 01:47:09.239
But it's it's it is definitely fucking
it is grim it is I'm in

1716
01:47:10.279 --> 01:47:14.199
Yeah, and yeah, that's it's
that issue. Maintains of each each area

1717
01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:17.600
is about an hour longer than it
ought be. Yeah, it was for

1718
01:47:17.680 --> 01:47:20.880
me. It just got down to
that that that damn camera during the combat,

1719
01:47:21.199 --> 01:47:24.600
I just it would always be in
the wrong spot. And I would

1720
01:47:24.600 --> 01:47:29.159
always just be stuck behind the dude
or a guy's off I'm just shooting the

1721
01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:31.359
gun off screen, hoping I'm trying
to hit a guy because the because I'm

1722
01:47:31.359 --> 01:47:34.840
locked on in the cameras, it's
in a weird place. Yeah, it

1723
01:47:34.920 --> 01:47:40.279
happened. Maybe there's some difference in
because I feel like I could move I

1724
01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:42.359
can't recall at this point, but
I feel like I could move the camp

1725
01:47:42.479 --> 01:47:48.479
to the camera around while I was
locked on dark. Yeah, Patrick's talking

1726
01:47:48.479 --> 01:47:51.359
about some news. What what do
you feel? What do you want to

1727
01:47:51.640 --> 01:47:56.960
That's what's I don't know. Hey, what's up? We went to that

1728
01:47:57.039 --> 01:48:00.479
DA thing? Yeah, that's right
where they were. Yeah, talk to

1729
01:48:00.520 --> 01:48:02.920
me about burnout crash dude. Yeah, it's cool. Burnout crash dude.

1730
01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:05.319
It's cool. People need to calm
down, it's cool. Okay. Yeah,

1731
01:48:05.479 --> 01:48:15.640
everyone losing their minds as though we
hadn't discussed this when they initially released

1732
01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:17.840
all this information. Yeah, back
in May through the SRB where they said

1733
01:48:17.840 --> 01:48:20.439
it was top down. There's anything
to get worked up about. It seems

1734
01:48:20.479 --> 01:48:24.520
like it's the connect control, which
is optional. So again, how are

1735
01:48:24.560 --> 01:48:29.199
the lobster monsters? Did not see
any lobster monsters. This is the part

1736
01:48:29.239 --> 01:48:31.159
I'm upset about. Yeah, so
now I'm gonna be angry about they're not

1737
01:48:31.199 --> 01:48:40.600
talking about that. I mean they
have basically, I mean they've basically taken

1738
01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:45.880
the core concepts of the crash mode
from the Burnout series, from Revenge,

1739
01:48:45.079 --> 01:48:48.960
the last one that had to crash. Yeah, like two, three,

1740
01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:55.640
and four all had some semblance of
a of a crash mode, and uh,

1741
01:48:57.359 --> 01:48:59.359
you know, the things that you
expect to be there are present,

1742
01:48:59.399 --> 01:49:01.119
Like you crash and like they're you
know, traffic patterns. You crash into

1743
01:49:01.119 --> 01:49:06.039
something to start the crash. Then
you have crash breakers and aftertouch yeah,

1744
01:49:06.079 --> 01:49:09.840
and you're you're basically trying to do
as much damage as possible. The difference

1745
01:49:09.880 --> 01:49:14.079
is it's it's all top down now. Uh. And you basically, like

1746
01:49:14.159 --> 01:49:17.319
your crash breaker meter fills up like
every like probably like five to ten seconds

1747
01:49:17.399 --> 01:49:20.199
or something like that, so you
can kind of just keep setting it off

1748
01:49:20.199 --> 01:49:25.479
over and over again. Uh.
And and you know continually after touching around

1749
01:49:25.479 --> 01:49:29.239
this area to blow as many cars. You can also buildings. You can

1750
01:49:29.239 --> 01:49:32.720
do damage to buildings now too.
They've thrown in some kind of like like

1751
01:49:32.800 --> 01:49:36.119
game showy like they try to describe
it as like a cross between like game

1752
01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:43.479
shows and pinball and burnout. I
guess, I don't know. So you'll

1753
01:49:43.560 --> 01:49:46.640
run into situations where like a pizza
delivery truck will will crawl drive across the

1754
01:49:46.680 --> 01:49:49.800
screen and you'll get like warning when
it's gonna happen, and if you can

1755
01:49:49.840 --> 01:49:54.359
blow up that delivery truck, the
like the Pizza of Fortune appears and it

1756
01:49:54.439 --> 01:49:58.600
spins and you get like additional additional
features going on in there to you know,

1757
01:49:58.720 --> 01:50:01.760
change like score, modify or other
things in the level. And then

1758
01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:04.560
there are some cars that drive on
that you can't blow up or shouldn't,

1759
01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:06.840
and you get a bonus if you
can. You know, an ambulance can

1760
01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:11.439
drive through the screen without you blowing
it up, And it's all kind of

1761
01:50:11.439 --> 01:50:14.960
takes place like on a screen,
like you kind of drive up to the

1762
01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:16.960
crash junction and then from there it
doesn't really scroll too much. You're just

1763
01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:20.439
kind of going around the screen crashing
as much stuff as you can before time

1764
01:50:20.479 --> 01:50:28.600
expires. And it's very like kind
of basic downloadable game, Like you could

1765
01:50:28.640 --> 01:50:31.359
see this working really well on say
some sort of mobile device, if they

1766
01:50:31.359 --> 01:50:35.399
were to announce it for some sort
of mobile device in the relatively near future,

1767
01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:41.920
like an iPad, like an iPad
maybe SIMI like something similar, like

1768
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:45.640
kind of like the same feature sit
as an iPad, But I don't know

1769
01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:47.119
if an iPad one could really handle
it. You know, it's graphically it

1770
01:50:47.119 --> 01:50:50.479
looks pretty nice. So who can
say, only on an iPad two?

1771
01:50:50.920 --> 01:50:55.239
Maybe? Who can say? Who
can say? So, what's the connect

1772
01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:58.319
stuff? Optional connect stuff? Like? So the connect stuff is like you

1773
01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:01.479
you drive with your hands in front
of you connect joy ride like I got

1774
01:51:01.479 --> 01:51:08.119
a fake stereo wheel. Yay.
It's not a good start. Then when

1775
01:51:08.159 --> 01:51:12.399
you start the crash, you jump
to do the crash breaker to get your

1776
01:51:12.399 --> 01:51:15.199
car up in the air, and
then you kind of step around to do

1777
01:51:15.239 --> 01:51:18.439
the aftertouch. Uh. And it
was not the easiest thing to wrap your

1778
01:51:18.479 --> 01:51:21.399
mind around, uh, like moving
the car around. I was having a

1779
01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:26.039
little trouble doing that. Was there
also some leaning involved, and it's more

1780
01:51:26.079 --> 01:51:28.560
stepping than leaning, And I think
that was my problem was I was trying

1781
01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:30.720
to lean because that felt more natural, but apparently it's a step. I

1782
01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:34.720
didn't think anything about it looked natural, it didn't actually feel terrible. I'm

1783
01:51:34.720 --> 01:51:38.680
not saying that, but I'm not
saying the implementation is bad, but like,

1784
01:51:39.199 --> 01:51:42.760
what's the reason for it being there? It just does not seem appropriate

1785
01:51:42.800 --> 01:51:45.159
for that kind of game. I
don't know. It's again it's optional,

1786
01:51:45.199 --> 01:51:50.920
so we can't if I it's just
fucking spitball here. It's the Criterion guys

1787
01:51:51.159 --> 01:51:56.239
using an ex hues to like experiment
with more connect shit. Yeah. Probably.

1788
01:51:56.680 --> 01:51:58.520
I was like, all right,
let's see what happens with this.

1789
01:51:58.600 --> 01:52:00.119
I don't know. Maybe it'll be
in the next because this is not if

1790
01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:03.199
we get Criterion's working on right.
Also, the other thing we learned there

1791
01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:08.239
is that this is not the only
thing Criterion's working on. You know that,

1792
01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:13.079
But what is Monolith working on?
I think I can stay with some

1793
01:52:13.159 --> 01:52:17.920
certainty that is not Black Too.
You're saying some certainty. You can't say

1794
01:52:17.960 --> 01:52:23.600
with absolute certainty. We spoke,
he may be willing to speak, we

1795
01:52:23.640 --> 01:52:26.479
have, we haven't. We have
an interview with with Alex Ward up on

1796
01:52:26.479 --> 01:52:29.359
the site as part of our EA
event coverage where we talk about the game,

1797
01:52:29.439 --> 01:52:32.359
but talking to him separately about Black
Too, and he's like, no,

1798
01:52:32.399 --> 01:52:36.359
we're not fucking no, it's not
Black Too. So nice to see

1799
01:52:36.399 --> 01:52:40.119
Alex Ward out again. Yeah,
I haven't seen seen him in years.

1800
01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:42.600
Yeah, yeah, to the point
where you're like, he's still a criterion,

1801
01:52:42.680 --> 01:52:45.760
he's still going on. He said
he was in jail. I don't

1802
01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:49.039
know. I don't know if I
buy that. So maybe there is black

1803
01:52:49.079 --> 01:52:51.640
tooth because I don't know if I
buy a story about being in jail.

1804
01:52:53.159 --> 01:52:56.279
Maybe that's what it's based on.
Yeah, you just dropped hints the whole

1805
01:52:56.279 --> 01:52:59.479
time, So black too. You
brick out of jail, right, and

1806
01:52:59.520 --> 01:53:01.640
there's a guy and a barrel.
You're you want to shoot the guy,

1807
01:53:01.840 --> 01:53:08.079
but trust me, shoot the barrel. Yeah. So they're working on another

1808
01:53:08.159 --> 01:53:13.319
driving game. Uh, and you
know, my gut tells me it's probably

1809
01:53:13.359 --> 01:53:15.359
the next need for speed to happen
after the run, because you know,

1810
01:53:15.359 --> 01:53:18.239
Hot Pursuit did so well. But
I sure would like it if it was

1811
01:53:18.239 --> 01:53:23.399
another burnout game. I'd like to
see them doing burnout. I also would

1812
01:53:23.439 --> 01:53:29.960
not be surprised to see that finally
happened, or just call it burnout put

1813
01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:30.840
the little you know, like call
it that for one year, like the

1814
01:53:31.800 --> 01:53:34.920
Shift burnout, and then it just
became shift too with the little need for

1815
01:53:34.920 --> 01:53:38.640
speed and on the box to let
you know, like, hey, it's

1816
01:53:38.640 --> 01:53:41.960
still that that so maybe they do
that for one year and then go back

1817
01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:44.680
to just calling it Burnout. I
wonder if, like the success of this

1818
01:53:44.800 --> 01:53:48.800
of this down Little Will game will
have some sway on the the amount of

1819
01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:54.000
burnout versus need for speedness of the
next big criteria. I think I actually,

1820
01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:57.159
probably, like most rather see them
just make a game called Burnout versus

1821
01:53:57.199 --> 01:54:00.960
Need for Speed, like Burnout Cross
Speed. It's just like the B Team

1822
01:54:01.079 --> 01:54:05.800
Van and then like a Selica.
So it's got all the non licensed stuff.

1823
01:54:05.800 --> 01:54:09.960
It's yeah yeah, and those cars
can blow up, but you cannot

1824
01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:16.000
blows yeah. I don't know,
different ball game there. Yeah. So

1825
01:54:16.199 --> 01:54:18.880
I think that game seems all right, you know, it's it's a it's

1826
01:54:18.880 --> 01:54:25.960
a generally inoffensive downloadable thing that actually
feels enough like even playing a Connect I

1827
01:54:25.960 --> 01:54:30.119
could, I could still it's still
felt enough like the Burnout crash mode that

1828
01:54:30.199 --> 01:54:33.159
I'm sure with a pad it's probably
totally fun. Oh so they were only

1829
01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:35.439
showing it with a Connect. They
let me choose, and I was just

1830
01:54:35.439 --> 01:54:38.760
like, you know what, I
want to know? Yeah, I want

1831
01:54:38.760 --> 01:54:41.800
to know, like you're you're showing
it like this, let me see what's

1832
01:54:41.840 --> 01:54:45.840
up with this? And that's what
that's what ot. Yeah, there's some

1833
01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:49.079
stuff, some other stuff. We
played Age two deals, so you're coming

1834
01:54:49.079 --> 01:54:50.920
out. Yeah, that's that's coming
out at the end of the month.

1835
01:54:53.479 --> 01:54:58.199
Trailer for that. But it was
gonna weird because they were hype it up

1836
01:54:58.199 --> 01:55:01.199
that there was gonna be some stuff
there and they're just really was I don't

1837
01:55:01.239 --> 01:55:05.319
know that there was a hype or
expect Well, there was expectation because expects

1838
01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:09.560
big enough because they have enough stuff
there before. Yes, like every year

1839
01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:15.000
there's something that's part. It's usually
were they brought sud and it usually sort

1840
01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:16.600
of their B level stuff. Doesn't
that make sense? For E three,

1841
01:55:16.840 --> 01:55:19.479
like we were like, you know, is Ted Price gonna come out and

1842
01:55:19.479 --> 01:55:24.680
talk? I expected some overstart thing. I've been hearing rumors about Syndicate.

1843
01:55:25.039 --> 01:55:30.039
Syndicate was runce. Also there are
also some rumors about Crisis one console.

1844
01:55:30.640 --> 01:55:32.680
Yeah, some rating stuff. Yes, some people were talking like that might

1845
01:55:32.720 --> 01:55:36.319
be there. But yeah, like
the Star Wars guys reasonly got a new

1846
01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:44.199
flux of cash and E eight for
this project readline which is Syndicate and yeah,

1847
01:55:44.239 --> 01:55:46.399
so maybe maybe that's what pushed it
out of it. So were there

1848
01:55:46.399 --> 01:55:49.800
little kids on stage? No,
there were dogs. No, there was

1849
01:55:50.479 --> 01:55:56.359
one on the lawn on their their
big field they had they were throwing frisbees

1850
01:55:56.359 --> 01:55:59.239
of dogs. It was it was
a weird. It was like no helicopters,

1851
01:55:59.279 --> 01:56:00.600
but yeah, it's like and we
got a special treat for you out

1852
01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:02.880
on the there was the great Lawn. Is that what they call it?

1853
01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:05.560
Something like that, Yeah, a
special treat. We go out there and

1854
01:56:05.600 --> 01:56:10.159
it's like some docs and chasing frisbees
like stars frisbee's dogs. I'm like,

1855
01:56:10.199 --> 01:56:13.479
what how many people in mind?
Keep in mind in years past this has

1856
01:56:13.479 --> 01:56:19.560
been like like a helicopter bearing NFL
players and yeah, there's something crazy this

1857
01:56:19.680 --> 01:56:24.720
This event sounded like just we have
the time slot. We can't. It

1858
01:56:24.760 --> 01:56:28.600
was weird event we have it.
It was a weird shift and focus.

1859
01:56:28.680 --> 01:56:30.880
I mean, like, you guys
love to see a fifteen minute debo of

1860
01:56:30.880 --> 01:56:35.840
Scramble for iPad playing. Facebook version
of that presentation was mobile and social games,

1861
01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:39.079
which is, you know, sports
always say that stuffs important. It

1862
01:56:39.119 --> 01:56:40.800
is. I mean, it's important. It is you know, we make

1863
01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:43.159
a lot of money off that stuff. Yeah, it's just sort of weird,

1864
01:56:43.159 --> 01:56:45.119
which this is, you know,
sense of the an enthusiast press events.

1865
01:56:45.560 --> 01:56:48.000
It was that stuff is always there, so if you want to like

1866
01:56:48.079 --> 01:56:51.119
come check it out, Like Battlefield
three was there, and we can't talk

1867
01:56:51.159 --> 01:56:55.800
about what we saw of that.
But but it was not part of the

1868
01:56:55.880 --> 01:56:59.119
presentation. You're right, and it
was almosch is weird. I almost got

1869
01:56:59.119 --> 01:57:00.920
the impression that was like, well, we got the space, let's put

1870
01:57:00.960 --> 01:57:04.680
the game. Let's put the big
game here. How about we got to

1871
01:57:04.680 --> 01:57:08.520
build of it. We just put
it out, all right, you've got

1872
01:57:08.560 --> 01:57:10.720
big signs. Let's say pre apha
code that we can put on all the

1873
01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:15.039
chaosks. I do great, Let's
do it just so happens. Yeah,

1874
01:57:16.359 --> 01:57:18.880
and then and then we can't talk
about that for another couple of weeks,

1875
01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:24.800
which specific in specifics, which is
just I am personally excited. We played

1876
01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:28.439
that game at E three, y'all. I'm excited for for bren Out Crash.

1877
01:57:28.560 --> 01:57:30.439
I don't care what what other people
say. Well, I do love

1878
01:57:30.439 --> 01:57:33.279
that mode. I always love that
mode. It was always bummed that it,

1879
01:57:33.800 --> 01:57:38.399
you know, got kind of you
know, I understood why it disappeared,

1880
01:57:39.399 --> 01:57:42.520
got disappeared out of out of Paradise, out of the open world format,

1881
01:57:42.560 --> 01:57:45.239
But gosh darn it, it's a
puzzle game. Yeah, it turned

1882
01:57:45.239 --> 01:57:49.640
blowing cars up into a puzzle game. That's that hits every part of my

1883
01:57:49.680 --> 01:57:55.359
brain. Is even more that it's
abstract about too, like a pure puzzle

1884
01:57:55.399 --> 01:57:59.960
game. There's d that's great,
yeah, because the driving isn't really necessary.

1885
01:58:00.079 --> 01:58:01.680
Yeah, the driving is always kind
of irrelevant to that mode. So

1886
01:58:01.920 --> 01:58:04.359
but it has like the burnout cars
and like you still pick a car.

1887
01:58:04.520 --> 01:58:06.600
Yeah, and you know they have
the different ratings, like it has the

1888
01:58:06.680 --> 01:58:12.359
class, it has the B Team
van and for exactly that matters. It

1889
01:58:12.359 --> 01:58:15.039
had like it had like some kind
of a cartoony. It was very colorful,

1890
01:58:15.159 --> 01:58:17.479
yeah, very break game. And
like one of the sections is called

1891
01:58:17.560 --> 01:58:20.159
Roswell, So imagine that's where the
UFOs will be, and there'll probably some

1892
01:58:20.239 --> 01:58:28.560
section near the end of the game
with some sort of lobsters in town.

1893
01:58:28.760 --> 01:58:33.239
You think that'll be the level and
the lobsters. So I know, there's

1894
01:58:33.279 --> 01:58:38.079
Seacrests and that's like Miambi Beach,
and then there's Roswell, okay, and

1895
01:58:38.079 --> 01:58:40.439
then there are two others. At
least, it sounds like an old Midway

1896
01:58:40.479 --> 01:58:42.640
game. You know what weird me
out more than anything was how much that

1897
01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:46.079
game sounds like a slot machine Yeah, like the sound of just kind of

1898
01:58:46.119 --> 01:58:50.720
like like constantly some some more stuff, some of sounds that can't be approximated

1899
01:58:50.720 --> 01:58:56.319
with a human voice, but but
like you hear it like that. That's

1900
01:58:56.319 --> 01:59:00.159
exactly who not. Yeah, there
you go. This is getting like a

1901
01:59:00.199 --> 01:59:03.880
Winslow on the phone fell like being
on the floor of casino here in that

1902
01:59:03.960 --> 01:59:10.720
game. Yes, it was very
evocative. Was everyone's smoking inside the campus?

1903
01:59:10.720 --> 01:59:14.319
It was an ashtray. They're British
man, it's not allowed to say

1904
01:59:14.399 --> 01:59:17.239
Criterion guys, don't go fuck all
right, Patrick's talk about some news.

1905
01:59:17.319 --> 01:59:28.760
Let's talk about Theatrhythm Theater Rhythm,
Theatrism, Theater the Trism, Last Final

1906
01:59:28.920 --> 01:59:33.039
Fantasy, that weird rhythm game.
Yeah, that weird rhythm game, Final

1907
01:59:33.039 --> 01:59:36.199
Fantasy Rhythm Game, Final Fantasy Rhythm
Game, Theater Rhythm. It was announced

1908
01:59:36.279 --> 01:59:42.159
last week. More details came out
this week. Characters from Final Fantasies one

1909
01:59:42.279 --> 01:59:46.319
through thirteen? Yes, what was
my favorite Final Fantasy game? Which ones

1910
01:59:46.359 --> 01:59:50.359
are they missing? The ones from
Final Fantasy two are my favorite because it's

1911
01:59:50.359 --> 01:59:55.960
just it's just main games. They've
or at least they've said that. Characters

1912
01:59:56.079 --> 02:00:00.439
from one through thirteen Crystal Chronicles.
Yeah, I guess, I guess you

1913
02:00:00.439 --> 02:00:06.720
know what about he should be right? Yeah, plays the basic I can

1914
02:00:08.479 --> 02:00:12.720
confirmed dance, I can, I
can either confirm nor not he is dance

1915
02:00:13.079 --> 02:00:18.920
the KEFCA content. It's a rhythm
game. Rhythm, a bunch of them.

1916
02:00:19.000 --> 02:00:23.359
The rhythm. Well, so it's
it's whatever, it's it's all of

1917
02:00:23.399 --> 02:00:26.960
these. It's all of the Final
Fantasy soundtrack. Bullshit that you've been imparting

1918
02:00:26.960 --> 02:00:29.800
from JAM Japan for way too much
money over the years. They're taking your

1919
02:00:29.800 --> 02:00:36.520
favorite song. You got that dance
remix of one week, Get Angel is

1920
02:00:36.560 --> 02:00:45.880
in there, confirm with more of
I'm gonna guess not. We gotta do

1921
02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:51.279
dance remixes. That shit a rhythm
game, and it's just the just like

1922
02:00:51.760 --> 02:00:57.279
no here, Well that's where there
are enough dance remixes of those songs out

1923
02:00:57.279 --> 02:01:00.279
there already. Even Yeah, that's
why it's called the rhythm because they're going

1924
02:01:00.359 --> 02:01:05.199
for the theatrical element of it is
all right, it's based on the Final

1925
02:01:05.239 --> 02:01:10.640
Fantasy movie. Yeah, you spirits
within. We were excited about this than

1926
02:01:10.680 --> 02:01:14.680
any other Final Fantasy game the last
five years. I thought everyone of the

1927
02:01:14.680 --> 02:01:17.319
trailers for verses thirteen looked pretty good. Everyone's got crazy. It's never gonna

1928
02:01:17.319 --> 02:01:24.880
come out of a rhythm games.
Everyone's got everyone's got crazy cheeby versions in

1929
02:01:24.920 --> 02:01:30.359
the game. And it's like Cloud
and Lightning are in there, plus I

1930
02:01:30.399 --> 02:01:33.039
don't know other other dudes. He
goes there, Chokabo in it is their

1931
02:01:33.079 --> 02:01:35.600
airship level, and then see it
is like hold on spinning on his head.

1932
02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:39.279
Hold on, let me look at
the two screenshots that have been released

1933
02:01:39.279 --> 02:01:41.880
for this so far. He wearing
goggles. He'd be wearing goggles. That's

1934
02:01:41.880 --> 02:01:45.119
the one. I'm talking about,
my Maneles. Yeah, I believe.

1935
02:01:45.199 --> 02:01:48.319
I believe he'll be in there.
The weird the weird thing is to consider

1936
02:01:48.399 --> 02:01:51.319
that they'll have to put characters from
Final Fantasy eleven in there, which I

1937
02:01:51.319 --> 02:01:55.199
don't know what the import your character. I don't even know what that means.

1938
02:01:55.239 --> 02:02:00.920
Import your character from Final Fantasy eleven. I don't know. Well,

1939
02:02:00.000 --> 02:02:03.000
maybe they just put the best.
Yeah, put like some style, you

1940
02:02:03.000 --> 02:02:08.079
know, some style is all thirteen
main entries in the Final Fantasy series will

1941
02:02:08.119 --> 02:02:14.640
be represented. Six or busts.
Well, that'll be in there. I

1942
02:02:14.640 --> 02:02:15.560
don't know. Wait, okay,
fine, buck you guys, let's talk

1943
02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:17.720
about Trenched. No. I want
to I want to hear more about it?

1944
02:02:18.600 --> 02:02:21.079
What are you doing it? You
play it's a bunch of rhythm games?

1945
02:02:21.199 --> 02:02:25.560
What does that mean? A Square
Annis, Square Enix, what does

1946
02:02:25.560 --> 02:02:29.319
that mean? We're not gonna tell
you yet because we're fucking crazy and out

1947
02:02:29.319 --> 02:02:32.960
of our minds and totally Japanese.
Put summon Baha mud and then it gets

1948
02:02:33.000 --> 02:02:42.800
the fuck down? Is it like
rhythm tangku style anything? No? Who

1949
02:02:42.840 --> 02:02:48.359
are you talking to? No,
it's not they're not yet. No.

1950
02:02:48.920 --> 02:02:54.399
Well all all they've said is that
they've released two screenshots, and both of

1951
02:02:54.439 --> 02:02:57.399
those have what appeared to be different
types of rhythm games in them. So

1952
02:02:57.640 --> 02:03:00.279
you play rhythm games to fight battles, that's what I understand. You can

1953
02:03:00.359 --> 02:03:03.920
you can you can extrapolate what that
actually means to the boy addition, and

1954
02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:08.359
it looks like old sixteen bit like, you know, sprites on one side

1955
02:03:08.439 --> 02:03:11.880
fighting some more sprites on the other
side. One of the screen shots looks

1956
02:03:11.880 --> 02:03:13.920
like looks like that. The other
screen shot looks nothing like that. So

1957
02:03:14.239 --> 02:03:17.760
it's even even like what the framing
device is gonna be like. It's hard

1958
02:03:17.800 --> 02:03:21.159
to say because Square doesn't need to
give you these details when they say,

1959
02:03:21.199 --> 02:03:25.880
you know, we're making a fucking
Final Fantasy Rhythm game. That's enough for

1960
02:03:25.880 --> 02:03:28.520
you to know that you don't want
to play again. Yeah, you're either

1961
02:03:28.600 --> 02:03:31.319
in or you're out on that.
That information is all you fucking need to

1962
02:03:31.399 --> 02:03:36.279
make that purchasing decision. All everything
else that what songs are included, that's

1963
02:03:36.319 --> 02:03:39.640
something to bitch about on a forum
somewhere. That is not that is no

1964
02:03:39.840 --> 02:03:45.000
bearing on on a purchasing choice over
under on that name surviving to this market.

1965
02:03:45.239 --> 02:03:48.079
Theater Rhythm. Yeah, I guarantee
you think they have such crazyness,

1966
02:03:48.439 --> 02:03:55.560
like what do the decidia they have
change? They did? They renamed god?

1967
02:03:55.600 --> 02:03:59.359
What did they renamed Kingdom Hearts twenty
four over thirty five? Yeah?

1968
02:03:59.520 --> 02:04:02.079
You're right, Yeah, they're literally
like they're not doing any focused testing.

1969
02:04:02.119 --> 02:04:09.560
It was a Too thirteen or whatever
got renamed to something else. I forget,

1970
02:04:09.640 --> 02:04:15.239
something else, far more memorable.
It was less memorable but also blessed

1971
02:04:15.279 --> 02:04:18.239
insane. Yeah. I think they're
like naming conventions. That's what people are

1972
02:04:18.279 --> 02:04:25.439
looking for, the Final Fantasy franchise, less insane, trenched, Yeah,

1973
02:04:25.520 --> 02:04:30.600
real, Unfortunately a trench for them
game. There may have to be for

1974
02:04:30.680 --> 02:04:33.239
them to get released in Europe that
that may be salute in time to the

1975
02:04:33.279 --> 02:04:36.960
beat. Yeah, but yeah,
basically, there is a board game over

1976
02:04:38.039 --> 02:04:41.479
in Europe called Trench. So so
we talked about the basics of this last

1977
02:04:41.520 --> 02:04:45.159
week of Hey, dude has this
board game name trade called Trench, and

1978
02:04:45.439 --> 02:04:48.800
he has covered his bases as far
as copyrights go throughout Europe. Someone didn't

1979
02:04:48.840 --> 02:04:51.680
check this or don't know what happened
on the back end. Only know is

1980
02:04:51.720 --> 02:04:56.399
we got up to the date and
they did not. Microsoft did not have

1981
02:04:56.520 --> 02:04:59.560
the rights to put that game out
and then Europe under that under that name.

1982
02:04:59.640 --> 02:05:01.840
Yes. The new wrinkle is that
the guy who owns this uh is

1983
02:05:01.880 --> 02:05:05.119
now saying he wants to make a
game based on his board game Trench,

1984
02:05:05.359 --> 02:05:09.560
right, and it seems like it
seems it's a game of it's a game

1985
02:05:09.600 --> 02:05:13.079
of chicken between Microsoft and this guy
to see if he can get a higher

1986
02:05:13.119 --> 02:05:15.439
buyout. I'm sure this guy has
really no intention of producing a Trench game

1987
02:05:17.079 --> 02:05:23.119
secured the electronic game version sure,
yeah, yeah, like his trademark.

1988
02:05:23.640 --> 02:05:27.880
It just someone didn't check that or
didn't or it waited too long before the

1989
02:05:27.920 --> 02:05:30.640
game got this closed. So yeah, I mean devil find is either faced

1990
02:05:30.680 --> 02:05:33.079
with Microsoft paying out this guy,
which now that price I get is going

1991
02:05:33.199 --> 02:05:36.479
up more and more, or like
every time we say the word Trench or

1992
02:05:36.600 --> 02:05:40.279
the every second we talk about this
story, the price goes up a little

1993
02:05:40.279 --> 02:05:42.359
bit. No, yeah, I
mean that's absolutely true. And and so

1994
02:05:42.479 --> 02:05:45.439
basically now they're faced with like redoing
the assets, renaming the game, which

1995
02:05:45.439 --> 02:05:47.279
at this point is probably cheaper,
and they'll just rerelease the game, you

1996
02:05:47.319 --> 02:05:49.680
know, three or four onths from
now. It we just won't be called

1997
02:05:49.720 --> 02:05:55.039
Trenched. Yeah, so it'd be
a limited edition for your up accounts,

1998
02:05:55.039 --> 02:05:59.399
you can own both. It seems
it seems downloads don't work. It seems

1999
02:05:59.680 --> 02:06:03.199
I don't know, maybe this guy
knows the position that he's in better than

2000
02:06:03.359 --> 02:06:06.640
than we do, but it seems
it does seem like it's dangerous game.

2001
02:06:08.560 --> 02:06:11.520
He set himself up to getting nothing. Yeah, because at the point where

2002
02:06:11.520 --> 02:06:14.880
you are publicly, you know,
giving statements to euro Game or other outlets

2003
02:06:14.960 --> 02:06:16.680
saying like, yeah, now I'm
making a game. I mean, I

2004
02:06:17.079 --> 02:06:20.960
get his why he's doing it,
but I think Mike might at this point

2005
02:06:21.039 --> 02:06:25.159
just walk away and yeah, no, we're not gonna pay you anything.

2006
02:06:25.239 --> 02:06:28.000
And because they look at how much
it's gonna cost do the asset stuff,

2007
02:06:28.039 --> 02:06:30.319
and it's probably. I mean,
I don't know, but it seems like

2008
02:06:30.359 --> 02:06:32.720
it's probably getting cheaper by the day
to just do it over. Yeah,

2009
02:06:32.720 --> 02:06:35.600
we don't have the title screen.
We don't have that much of an investment

2010
02:06:35.640 --> 02:06:39.560
in the name of this game.
So yeah, it's the first one.

2011
02:06:40.520 --> 02:06:45.439
It's like we're already knee deep in
trenched spinoffs and rhythm games. Yeah,

2012
02:06:45.760 --> 02:06:46.800
and then and then once and then
once they you know, redo it,

2013
02:06:46.920 --> 02:06:49.680
you know, possibly if they do
a second one, like they just negotiate

2014
02:06:49.720 --> 02:06:53.800
with the guy after the value of
the after this is all blown over.

2015
02:06:54.000 --> 02:06:57.000
Yeah, So too bad for those
guys though, because that game secesh're doing

2016
02:06:57.079 --> 02:06:59.840
with the law for them one nice
if they can it can't come out,

2017
02:07:00.159 --> 02:07:01.640
I'm sure it's sure. That's got
to be frustrating. Rename it Mega Drive.

2018
02:07:02.760 --> 02:07:05.880
That's what it's called in Europe.
I like it. Yep, sure

2019
02:07:05.920 --> 02:07:11.039
that's better. Jeff Gerstman, they'll
call it that. I have the rights

2020
02:07:11.119 --> 02:07:13.439
to that in Europe. No,
you don't. I do. I own

2021
02:07:13.479 --> 02:07:17.199
the rights to Jeff Gerstman in Europe. The board game rights. Fuck board

2022
02:07:17.319 --> 02:07:21.239
game. Some dude somewhere in Europe
owns Jeff Grisman dot com. Yeah,

2023
02:07:21.439 --> 02:07:24.960
I don't se Yeah, some dude
in Europe. Wait a minute, you

2024
02:07:25.239 --> 02:07:30.760
motherfucker, But turn that frown upside
down, Jeff, because Planet Side two

2025
02:07:30.840 --> 02:07:32.680
is coming yay. They released an
official trailer and said, yep, we're

2026
02:07:32.680 --> 02:07:35.119
making Planet Side too. Man.
I hope that's good, and we're calling

2027
02:07:35.159 --> 02:07:41.199
it planet Side two apparently, even
though it really is just planet Side again.

2028
02:07:41.279 --> 02:07:44.439
Even thought, look looking at that
trailer, I mean, like,

2029
02:07:44.560 --> 02:07:46.960
I recognize that building, and I
guess I'm probably gonna have to go and

2030
02:07:47.079 --> 02:07:49.960
take over that building again, aren't
I wait, laying on the roof,

2031
02:07:50.000 --> 02:07:54.279
it's faster. Is that really what
they're doing. Yeah, it's like it's

2032
02:07:54.479 --> 02:07:56.279
from the sounds of things, from
what they've talked about. They haven't,

2033
02:07:56.479 --> 02:07:58.840
you said a ton, but it
sounds like it's like set in the same

2034
02:07:58.960 --> 02:08:01.840
period of time. It's not necessarily
advancing the story. It's just like these

2035
02:08:01.880 --> 02:08:07.439
three factions are fighting each other,
same same three factions, same maps.

2036
02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:11.079
I don't know about those continent or
hopefully it is before they added all the

2037
02:08:11.159 --> 02:08:13.680
underground caves, because that's that for
me, is where the Planet Side went

2038
02:08:13.800 --> 02:08:16.520
did really bad? That game even
have maps per se or was it just

2039
02:08:16.560 --> 02:08:20.960
one giant land? It's one giant
land mass, but you zone between them,

2040
02:08:20.039 --> 02:08:22.520
okay, I guess, and you
can kind of air drop to any

2041
02:08:22.560 --> 02:08:26.680
one of them at any point.
I guess. That's all I remember from

2042
02:08:26.680 --> 02:08:30.720
Planet Side was a lot of waiting
around to get on the air transport to

2043
02:08:30.800 --> 02:08:33.439
the You could just like instant action
anywhere you wanted or if you like so

2044
02:08:33.560 --> 02:08:37.399
ill when you wanted to go to
a specific spot, though, But it

2045
02:08:37.439 --> 02:08:39.520
wasn't really just spect myself for flying
and just flew wherever I wanted to go.

2046
02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:43.359
But it wasn't a bunch of like
sixteen player instances or whatever. No,

2047
02:08:43.520 --> 02:08:46.039
no, no, it was.
It was massively multiplayer. And they

2048
02:08:46.319 --> 02:08:48.479
have said so much I guess about
this one that it's not instanced at all,

2049
02:08:48.800 --> 02:08:52.600
Like you get on server and you
fight dudes? Is it? Was

2050
02:08:52.640 --> 02:08:56.680
it? The game ever a good
shooter? No, it's still a great

2051
02:08:56.720 --> 02:09:00.640
concept. Yeah, I think about
when it came out, like you know,

2052
02:09:00.760 --> 02:09:05.359
network technology back then. I mean
it's still two perfect sure too,

2053
02:09:05.600 --> 02:09:09.359
I'm getting yeah, I'm getting too. Yeah, you know, because you're

2054
02:09:11.800 --> 02:09:13.520
right, so like you know,
just trying to do an action game with

2055
02:09:13.640 --> 02:09:18.840
that many players, you know,
it's a dicey property created his computer for

2056
02:09:18.920 --> 02:09:22.000
this stupid game. I guess,
I probably, I just it was.

2057
02:09:22.199 --> 02:09:24.640
It was a lot of fun too, Like even take into account that just

2058
02:09:24.680 --> 02:09:28.720
like the weapons didn't fire like they
did in a you know, four player

2059
02:09:28.800 --> 02:09:31.880
first person shooter, right, you
know, even compensating for that, it

2060
02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:35.920
was still really cool when it worked. But at this point, like scale

2061
02:09:35.119 --> 02:09:41.760
of a PC multiplayer first person shooter
has increased so much that like the basic

2062
02:09:41.880 --> 02:09:45.760
novelty of there's a lot of dudes
in this fight, like, isn't That's

2063
02:09:45.760 --> 02:09:48.399
why they're saying it's not instanced,
because that means like there could be a

2064
02:09:48.560 --> 02:09:52.800
lot more dudes in this theoretically than
there even are in you know, but

2065
02:09:52.960 --> 02:09:56.520
in a battlefield game or in MAG
or I mean, I guess, like

2066
02:09:56.680 --> 02:10:01.600
like that didn't matter enough to make
MAG, like you got to have a

2067
02:10:01.680 --> 02:10:05.079
good underlying like you got to have
a strong fucking basics and some of the

2068
02:10:05.119 --> 02:10:07.159
semisimilar ideas that they kind of basically, you know, in a lot of

2069
02:10:07.239 --> 02:10:11.199
ways, MAG took some of the
stuff the PlanetSide did, and not directly,

2070
02:10:11.359 --> 02:10:13.479
but you know other games did this, but try to build it into

2071
02:10:13.520 --> 02:10:16.640
a lasting conflict. There was from
persistence in the world of Mag based on

2072
02:10:16.760 --> 02:10:22.239
how your faction was doing, and
that's all That's what Planet Side really was

2073
02:10:22.399 --> 02:10:26.680
is you know, you your your
faction would take over whole areas and then

2074
02:10:26.680 --> 02:10:28.159
you would all go to bed and
wake up and you didn't have any any

2075
02:10:28.199 --> 02:10:33.439
of it anymore, and you'd have
to just keep fighting forever. So do

2076
02:10:33.520 --> 02:10:37.199
you do you think you can make
this Planet Side to a subscription MMO in

2077
02:10:37.279 --> 02:10:41.000
today's kind of like my understanding that
I think there's already said, like the

2078
02:10:41.119 --> 02:10:43.960
developments is it? Well, they
said they're not talking about the model,

2079
02:10:45.119 --> 02:10:48.159
which would suggests they're doing something different. Free to play. I think free

2080
02:10:48.199 --> 02:10:50.359
to play makes a lot of sense. I just feel like with the first

2081
02:10:50.359 --> 02:10:56.600
person shooters in the purchase and persistence
on a local level, the appeal of

2082
02:10:56.760 --> 02:11:00.760
like an online persistent first person shooter. But like with something like mag which

2083
02:11:00.840 --> 02:11:05.439
is kind of that model, I
mean there is persistence right, kind of

2084
02:11:05.439 --> 02:11:07.640
becomes less appealing. But it was
like the thing with Mag is its persistence

2085
02:11:07.640 --> 02:11:11.319
that you didn't really see and touch, Like this is what like a world

2086
02:11:11.359 --> 02:11:13.319
you can go into if you just
want to hang out behind your lines and

2087
02:11:13.439 --> 02:11:18.600
just like you're holding this base down
and it's gonna you know, even if

2088
02:11:18.600 --> 02:11:22.039
they're attacking in this direction, they
could take them four hours of taking over

2089
02:11:22.159 --> 02:11:24.439
bases and rolling past all our automated
defenses to even get to where we're at.

2090
02:11:24.800 --> 02:11:28.079
I was thinking more of like the
perk system and like character like leveling

2091
02:11:28.159 --> 02:11:31.880
up. Now they maybe to say
you could kind of respect yourself in a

2092
02:11:31.920 --> 02:11:35.079
lot of different directions, so you
would spend your spec points to like get

2093
02:11:35.199 --> 02:11:39.119
classified for like you'd get the like
I'm I'm able to now pilot this type

2094
02:11:39.119 --> 02:11:43.600
of vehicle because I put this many
points into flying shit just way deeper.

2095
02:11:43.319 --> 02:11:46.680
Uh. Yeah, they could go
deeper trees. They could definitely go deeper

2096
02:11:46.760 --> 02:11:48.760
on trees. And it sounds like
I think PC gamer has like a wrap

2097
02:11:48.840 --> 02:11:52.680
up on their site talking about like
some of the stuff that's in there and

2098
02:11:52.439 --> 02:11:56.880
stuff like that. There's like it
is stuff about skill trees and there's some

2099
02:11:56.920 --> 02:12:00.560
guys going to pretty deep on trees
on the fifth floor at the Higher Sea.

2100
02:12:01.079 --> 02:12:07.720
Sounds horrible, sir, the whole
row of planet side machines up on

2101
02:12:07.760 --> 02:12:11.239
the fifth floor, Big Old Land. I'm just not very confident players up

2102
02:12:11.239 --> 02:12:16.159
there with all that. Bob Woo. I can't bring that into the statesman.

2103
02:12:16.520 --> 02:12:24.560
I'll bust you for sure. Yeah, I mean, Patrick, I'm

2104
02:12:24.600 --> 02:12:28.720
with you with that concern Sony online
entertainment. I just don't like, I

2105
02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:31.399
really think it's a great concept that
like if the rumors are true, and

2106
02:12:31.479 --> 02:12:35.239
then like Bungee's thing is kind of
this but like done by Bungee, I

2107
02:12:35.319 --> 02:12:39.439
got to have a lot more confidence
that someone like them is going to pull

2108
02:12:39.479 --> 02:12:41.399
it off because it is a great
concept waiting for someone to just figure it

2109
02:12:41.439 --> 02:12:45.600
out. And Bungee arguably has both
ends of the like we can do good

2110
02:12:45.720 --> 02:12:48.640
network connectivity and also we know how
to make a very solid first person that

2111
02:12:48.720 --> 02:12:52.359
you got to scale it and find
a way to make that conflict fun on

2112
02:12:52.399 --> 02:12:54.800
a larger scale. And I kind
of trust them a lot more than I

2113
02:12:54.880 --> 02:12:58.239
trust and it's a hard enough to
crack. That's yeah. Multiple people who

2114
02:12:58.239 --> 02:13:01.039
have have tried the the large scale
constantly even you know, you know,

2115
02:13:01.159 --> 02:13:05.199
yeah, whether it's the real time
aspect of it that like the action end

2116
02:13:05.239 --> 02:13:07.800
of it, or whether it's like
the persistent world aspect of it of just

2117
02:13:07.920 --> 02:13:11.600
like and then I logged out and
then we started over from scratch the next

2118
02:13:11.680 --> 02:13:15.960
day because someone else logged in and
the Blue guys took over all our turf.

2119
02:13:16.760 --> 02:13:20.159
How do you make people care and
have investment right when its conflict that

2120
02:13:20.319 --> 02:13:22.840
just goes forever? Yeah, and
like when you go to bed, how

2121
02:13:22.880 --> 02:13:26.159
all that changes? Like yeah,
it's it could be cool though the concept

2122
02:13:26.239 --> 02:13:31.239
just so awesome. Still, that's
someone's gonna be like it's gonna be like

2123
02:13:31.399 --> 02:13:35.520
like monthly wins or something. There's
gotta be more structure too. You need

2124
02:13:35.640 --> 02:13:37.279
something. You need to just like
you need dudes in a world it would

2125
02:13:37.279 --> 02:13:39.319
give you stuff where like, you
know, the more stuff you took over,

2126
02:13:39.319 --> 02:13:46.279
you would start to get like benefits
to your so I mean just logged

2127
02:13:46.319 --> 02:13:50.159
in each time. They would give
certain factions bonuses if they're understaffed on a

2128
02:13:50.239 --> 02:13:52.840
server, that sort of stuff,
trying to keep it ahead. But then

2129
02:13:54.159 --> 02:13:56.319
it needs to be something like,
you know, get a cool piece of

2130
02:13:56.800 --> 02:14:01.000
like unique fucking gear for your dude
that you can show off, like if

2131
02:14:01.079 --> 02:14:05.680
all right, our our faction you
know quote unquote one during this month,

2132
02:14:05.840 --> 02:14:09.840
so we got this thing or you
know, it's just some sort of token

2133
02:14:09.920 --> 02:14:11.520
like that, so that it's not
just the Yeah, well, like I

2134
02:14:11.600 --> 02:14:16.239
am in this endless conflict, end
to what end and why? Like events

2135
02:14:16.279 --> 02:14:18.640
occur in planet Side or is it
just there are just no there weren't really

2136
02:14:18.760 --> 02:14:22.600
no because I think that's what There
was no real single player. There was

2137
02:14:22.640 --> 02:14:24.199
no real why don't you needs a
single player? But if like if they're

2138
02:14:24.359 --> 02:14:26.960
like I mean, I mean,
just like you were fighting the environment.

2139
02:14:28.279 --> 02:14:31.359
Yeah, it was just like any
any dude you saw was a human.

2140
02:14:31.720 --> 02:14:33.680
Okay. There could be more things, like they could shape the world to

2141
02:14:35.199 --> 02:14:37.239
change it dynamically, you might be
able to focus players rather. Yeah,

2142
02:14:37.359 --> 02:14:41.520
there was an expansion that like totally
rejiggered the way the world looked and added

2143
02:14:41.520 --> 02:14:45.800
all these caves that were shortcuts between
areas and stuff, and then I added

2144
02:14:45.840 --> 02:14:50.760
these Mex suits that were not fun, and that expansion just kind of ruin

2145
02:14:50.840 --> 02:14:52.880
the game in a lot of ways. People still play it like it has

2146
02:14:52.960 --> 02:14:56.960
a I couldn't get running on one
to seven. I tried actually installing it

2147
02:14:56.039 --> 02:15:01.119
last year at one point but couldn't
get it going. But yeah, this

2148
02:15:01.239 --> 02:15:03.880
is a new engine that's they're also
apparently using for the next EverQuest games.

2149
02:15:03.880 --> 02:15:07.960
They're calling EverQuest Next, Yeah,
because Planet Side two is called Planets Side

2150
02:15:07.000 --> 02:15:09.399
Next. At one point they showed
one screen looks all right, it looks

2151
02:15:09.439 --> 02:15:13.600
like a elf awesome. So you
think what they showed in that trailer for

2152
02:15:13.680 --> 02:15:16.079
Planets Side Too is game player?
You think that's just mock up show.

2153
02:15:16.079 --> 02:15:20.279
I thinks game player. It didn't
look that good if you if you look

2154
02:15:20.319 --> 02:15:24.279
at it's definitely it's definitely game played. All right, One more story here,

2155
02:15:24.560 --> 02:15:28.319
Uncharted movie David or Russell dropped out
a couple of weeks ago, or

2156
02:15:28.319 --> 02:15:30.359
at least it was announced that he
dropped out a couple of weeks ago.

2157
02:15:30.840 --> 02:15:37.680
We now have director Neil Burger stepping
in. Most recently did Limitless Limitless the

2158
02:15:37.760 --> 02:15:43.399
Bradley Cooper Drugs Make You Awesome movie, also did to the Fifth Floor.

2159
02:15:43.439 --> 02:15:48.279
Also down the Cooper's up there,
did the Only Pills Make You Awesome?

2160
02:15:48.319 --> 02:15:50.800
Not all Dr Robert scenarios up there? You work for me. Now,

2161
02:15:50.840 --> 02:15:54.119
there's no scenario in which you don't
smoke this weed and then we go buy

2162
02:15:54.159 --> 02:16:01.479
stocks. So also the Illusionist his
credit, that's some other stuff, but

2163
02:16:01.159 --> 02:16:05.079
he wrote that too, you're losing
it. Yes, okay, good to

2164
02:16:05.159 --> 02:16:07.800
know. Good movie, not as
yes, yea, not as good as

2165
02:16:09.199 --> 02:16:11.760
as the Prestige Obvious, which is
kind of the obvious comparison. But but

2166
02:16:11.920 --> 02:16:16.399
but yeah stands on the Stone no
deep impact it is. It is not

2167
02:16:16.640 --> 02:16:20.439
very good as a competitor to like
Armageddon. Yeah, like it's you put

2168
02:16:20.520 --> 02:16:26.079
deep impact arm again against Okay,
I kind of Mercury not a good,

2169
02:16:26.199 --> 02:16:33.680
not a good comparison to Mercury rising
the alc Baltwine. So because of the

2170
02:16:33.719 --> 02:16:39.760
limitless connection, everyone's saying Bradley Cooper
for Nathan Drake, which I will say,

2171
02:16:39.200 --> 02:16:43.799
you could cast a lot worse for
that role. It's not gonna be

2172
02:16:43.879 --> 02:16:48.559
Nathan Phillian. Just just just listen, guys, it's yeah. I love

2173
02:16:48.680 --> 02:16:52.120
Nathan Philly. Yeah, I find
him charismatic. I watch his stupid show,

2174
02:16:52.159 --> 02:16:54.639
even though it's extremely stupid. Castle. Yeah, it's not good.

2175
02:16:54.760 --> 02:16:58.680
It's just pretty dumb. It's a
dumb show. I also brandably watched Doctor

2176
02:16:58.719 --> 02:17:03.200
Horror recently. Yeah. Man,
he hands it up in the watch the

2177
02:17:03.280 --> 02:17:09.239
whole I don't know what are you
watching. I took that as a positive

2178
02:17:09.399 --> 02:17:11.840
sure, as it absolutely doesn't hand
it up. I mean, that thing

2179
02:17:11.920 --> 02:17:13.239
knows what it's going for and again
it goes for it. I just found

2180
02:17:13.280 --> 02:17:18.399
it pretty unpalatable until the last like
ten minutes when it suddenly got pretty good.

2181
02:17:18.440 --> 02:17:22.239
I didn't like Bad Horse, Bad
Horse, Bad Horse is in the

2182
02:17:22.319 --> 02:17:24.719
ending. Yeah, but bad horse
like like the ending doesn't work unless the

2183
02:17:24.719 --> 02:17:26.159
bad horse like set up through the
rest of the thing happened. Sure.

2184
02:17:26.319 --> 02:17:31.120
Sure, but the bad Horse payoff
is amazing. Ye, I'll absolutely give

2185
02:17:31.120 --> 02:17:35.239
you that is really good. Anyway, no casting announces have been made other

2186
02:17:35.280 --> 02:17:37.440
than hey, Neil Burger is the
new director on this, but you know

2187
02:17:37.719 --> 02:17:41.879
obviously went and wild a speculation on
on The Bad Cop. I had heard

2188
02:17:41.920 --> 02:17:48.559
that Sony and Naughty Dog were extremely
upset over how what's his face Russell was

2189
02:17:48.760 --> 02:17:54.680
was was handling less of what is
reshaping of the movie was going to be.

2190
02:17:54.719 --> 02:17:56.840
They were sort of okay with that, but more of like the way

2191
02:17:56.879 --> 02:18:00.479
he handled it in public, and
so there was I was told there was

2192
02:18:00.479 --> 02:18:03.079
definitely some pressure to to get him
off the project. The problem with like,

2193
02:18:03.120 --> 02:18:05.200
once you take David Russell off and
he's hot off of an Oscar film

2194
02:18:05.239 --> 02:18:09.319
is that you were on the risk
of like then the movie just goes to

2195
02:18:09.360 --> 02:18:11.440
development. Hell, right, So
the fact that they picked someone up,

2196
02:18:11.520 --> 02:18:15.120
you know, it's good. Yeah, hopefully, Yeah. And I supposed

2197
02:18:15.120 --> 02:18:16.760
to even knew about that. He
was about that mass efect movie at Comic

2198
02:18:16.799 --> 02:18:20.440
Con, But there was a Gears
of War panel about that movie and that

2199
02:18:20.559 --> 02:18:24.399
never had Also, don't forget the
World of Warcraft movie y Sam Raimi was

2200
02:18:24.559 --> 02:18:28.000
still working on that could still happen. Yeah, that when I was announced,

2201
02:18:28.040 --> 02:18:31.239
that was like, he's going to
go do another movie before he looks

2202
02:18:31.280 --> 02:18:33.959
at this. I'd rather say he's
done like three, he hasn't. He

2203
02:18:33.079 --> 02:18:37.319
did Drive Me to Hell, but
that was this was announced after that,

2204
02:18:37.879 --> 02:18:39.600
is it? Yes? And then
he was gonna do this Wizard of Oz

2205
02:18:39.680 --> 02:18:43.000
movie. Okay, so he's doing
that, So if he doesn't do it

2206
02:18:43.000 --> 02:18:45.120
after this, then then you can
write it off. Okay. I would

2207
02:18:45.200 --> 02:18:48.319
rather see a World of Warcraft Saturday
Morning cartoon, the way they just take

2208
02:18:48.399 --> 02:18:50.600
old episodes of the Dungeons and Dragons
cartoon and just like say, it's a

2209
02:18:50.639 --> 02:18:54.319
batch of kids that got sucked into
fantasy world. They were sitting in front

2210
02:18:54.319 --> 02:18:56.079
of their computers and then one of
them spilled him out and do with the

2211
02:18:56.120 --> 02:19:00.479
keyboard and now, oh no,
we're stuck on You think the un they

2212
02:19:00.479 --> 02:19:07.239
should just re dubbed the old Uh
doesn't like yeah, exactly, look out

2213
02:19:07.280 --> 02:19:15.680
for that wiver. Yeah whatever I'm
saying, just different descriptive text for it.

2214
02:19:15.760 --> 02:19:24.360
That's that's the we should go talk
to Van Cleef. So, so,

2215
02:19:24.440 --> 02:19:28.200
Patrick, what do you think the
reality then of this movie being made?

2216
02:19:28.760 --> 02:19:31.000
Sony Like, I think they're right
that this could be an Indiana Jones

2217
02:19:31.040 --> 02:19:35.200
type franchise for them, So they
have a reason to make this happen,

2218
02:19:35.319 --> 02:19:41.120
But they also have a reason to
not cast Nathan Phillion, So stop hambling

2219
02:19:41.159 --> 02:19:45.719
it, Okay. So yeah,
i'd say decent shot, I hope.

2220
02:19:45.760 --> 02:19:48.319
So I still wish. I believe
it could be a great film, Branch,

2221
02:19:48.360 --> 02:19:52.200
I still wish they go over Mivinsky
BioShock movie happened. Yeah, yeah,

2222
02:19:52.200 --> 02:19:56.799
and basic basically they said make a
PG thirteen. He said no,

2223
02:19:56.920 --> 02:19:58.840
then we just won't make it,
and so great. Then it was budgetary.

2224
02:20:00.360 --> 02:20:03.520
It was, but it was budgetary
plus plus the he wanted it to

2225
02:20:03.639 --> 02:20:07.159
be a hard R and they said
no. So I would still see a

2226
02:20:07.159 --> 02:20:11.319
PG thirteen by shot movie. I
don't think that's it. I'd rather see

2227
02:20:11.319 --> 02:20:16.040
a hard R sure, sure in
anything. Yeah, but literally, any

2228
02:20:16.159 --> 02:20:18.360
movie that you proposed to me is
like, make that hard R. Yeah,

2229
02:20:18.559 --> 02:20:24.760
then I'll no hard Pee's Big Adventure
hard R. Yeah, what's that

2230
02:20:24.959 --> 02:20:31.079
terrible frightening Yeah, it makes that
large margin sequence just really disturbing. Is

2231
02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:39.600
that bathtub sequence really hotter hard hot? It's already hot. All right,

2232
02:20:39.680 --> 02:20:41.920
let's talk about some new rests.
Yeah, I'm just kidding. There are

2233
02:20:41.959 --> 02:20:48.479
no new lads. No wait to
misflosire Man's coming out this week. Warlords

2234
02:20:48.520 --> 02:20:52.639
coming out? What war Warlords coming
out? Warlords came out for arcades in

2235
02:20:52.760 --> 02:21:01.799
like nineteen eighty so back then.
NCAA Football twelve is out this week,

2236
02:21:03.040 --> 02:21:09.159
as is Harry Potter and the Deathy
Hallows Part two. So thenny one more

2237
02:21:09.399 --> 02:21:13.600
Harry Potter game. Yeah, because
this would be the last Harry Potter game.

2238
02:21:13.000 --> 02:21:16.079
This should be the last of the
movie Harry Potter games. There you

2239
02:21:16.120 --> 02:21:18.040
go, I guess is the last
time the license to the Harry Potter games?

2240
02:21:18.280 --> 02:21:22.799
Yes? So someone hooray? Are
we gonna do another one of those?

2241
02:21:22.959 --> 02:21:24.399
Yep? Is it connect? I
don't know, took it out?

2242
02:21:24.600 --> 02:21:33.319
Okay, so that sounds it's here. That's all that you get that close

2243
02:21:33.479 --> 02:21:37.639
enough? All right? Cool?
I guess that Warhammer forty K kill team

2244
02:21:37.719 --> 02:21:41.040
just got announced out of this week, the Boulder Dash XL. Yes,

2245
02:21:41.079 --> 02:21:46.120
Boulder Dash XL the team. So
the dual choice takes shooter. It's like

2246
02:21:46.200 --> 02:21:52.040
the remember how the base Space Marines
coming out soon Sonier's downloada ball games set

2247
02:21:52.120 --> 02:21:58.479
in the Warhammer August or September.
I want to say, it's that's the

2248
02:21:58.520 --> 02:22:03.120
Relic games Space Marine. So this
is supposed to be lead up to that

2249
02:22:03.200 --> 02:22:07.120
emotional item. Yeah, I think. I think they are treating as a

2250
02:22:07.520 --> 02:22:09.680
promotional item, but they're also selling. They did the Red Faction Battleground game,

2251
02:22:09.879 --> 02:22:16.319
which worked out for that game.
Woof that yeah, woof, I'm

2252
02:22:16.399 --> 02:22:22.520
barking at the dog. That was
that Red Factions Battleground game. That was

2253
02:22:22.760 --> 02:22:28.399
right up there with the Star Trek
dual joystick shooter or the Wing Commander dual

2254
02:22:28.520 --> 02:22:33.639
joystick shooter, or I always forget
there was a Wing Commander du yeah,

2255
02:22:33.840 --> 02:22:39.360
or or the Battlestar Galactica dual joystick
shooter, all of which were not All

2256
02:22:39.399 --> 02:22:41.799
those were dual joystick shooters. Some
of them need to turn in the direction

2257
02:22:41.879 --> 02:22:46.879
and fire. That's true, totally
different. They're all junkie that that I'm

2258
02:22:46.920 --> 02:22:54.479
with you on. All right,
let's talk about some emails. Bomb cast

2259
02:22:54.680 --> 02:22:58.159
at john bomb dot com comes in
from I just I really have not been

2260
02:22:58.200 --> 02:23:03.799
finding it the last few weeks.
Okay, Ultram is a summer Man,

2261
02:23:03.840 --> 02:23:09.079
the All Star break is upon us. That thats again just like every week.

2262
02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:13.360
This is this is why I'm taking
a cake yail surprise. You mean

2263
02:23:13.399 --> 02:23:16.000
you'll just like put emails in a
different part of the show next week and

2264
02:23:16.040 --> 02:23:18.719
you just keep my toes. You
won't even know, just be like ready

2265
02:23:18.760 --> 02:23:22.479
to drift off and all of a
sudden emails. All right, challenge me.

2266
02:23:22.600 --> 02:23:26.120
I was email attacks just into throughout
the show. Just whenever he's gonna

2267
02:23:26.120 --> 02:23:31.840
show behind you with a video game
broughout the week. Yeah, anytime show

2268
02:23:31.959 --> 02:23:35.600
up in your house, you're come
at me with an inbox, be next

2269
02:23:35.639 --> 02:23:41.239
to be next year in bed and
just just whisker emails, creep back out.

2270
02:23:41.239 --> 02:23:48.879
He's made all right, It's possible. HK writes in to say,

2271
02:23:48.840 --> 02:23:54.120
whoop. Indeed, excellent show is
always keeping up. I was wondering about

2272
02:23:54.120 --> 02:23:56.120
the state of Vinnie's eyes a few
months ago. He said he went to

2273
02:23:56.159 --> 02:24:01.399
the doctor's stuff hope all is best
for him. Bennyny email, I've got

2274
02:24:01.479 --> 02:24:03.280
to go back. I go back
to the doctor. It's still there.

2275
02:24:03.559 --> 02:24:05.760
It's still there. You've just adjusted
to it. I guess, no,

2276
02:24:05.920 --> 02:24:09.040
it's still there. Yeah, I
go back to the doctor next week.

2277
02:24:09.120 --> 02:24:15.079
Next Monday, I canceled an appointment
and said I was like, hey,

2278
02:24:15.079 --> 02:24:16.120
I'm gonna cancel this appointment. She's
like, oh, okay, you want

2279
02:24:16.120 --> 02:24:18.760
to resketch. I was like,
next month or something. It's still there,

2280
02:24:20.120 --> 02:24:22.319
so I don't need to go to
the doctor to say, hey,

2281
02:24:22.399 --> 02:24:24.920
it's still there once you wait it
out. Here's my twenty cope all right,

2282
02:24:26.239 --> 02:24:28.040
and she I think she kind of
got mad at me for being like,

2283
02:24:28.639 --> 02:24:31.600
you wait a month and I was
like, yeah, you're just gonna

2284
02:24:31.639 --> 02:24:35.520
tell me it's still there. So
here's a month later. All right,

2285
02:24:35.559 --> 02:24:37.760
it's still there. I kind of
want to cancel it again. No,

2286
02:24:37.920 --> 02:24:41.040
go to the doctor. Yeah,
I'm gonna insist this time, so it's

2287
02:24:41.040 --> 02:24:45.799
still there. I'll pay part of
your cope. Yeah, I'll pitch in.

2288
02:24:46.280 --> 02:24:50.799
I got my task money. Okay, that's fine, I'll take I

2289
02:24:50.920 --> 02:24:52.559
post tax. I don't care if
it gets you to the doctor. What

2290
02:24:52.680 --> 02:24:54.479
do you say? It's still there? And I'll be like, yeah,

2291
02:24:54.479 --> 02:24:56.760
I know it's still there. Maybe
maybe he's gonna be like, well,

2292
02:24:56.799 --> 02:25:00.479
do you want to get it lasered
off? I don't know, should get

2293
02:25:00.479 --> 02:25:03.079
a laser dog? I don't want
to get it's just gonna be there.

2294
02:25:03.159 --> 02:25:05.959
Then it's supposed to go away.
Yeah it's not, but it's not so

2295
02:25:07.120 --> 02:25:09.879
lasers. I'm gonna go on vacation. You know what I've got, I've

2296
02:25:09.879 --> 02:25:15.079
got laser discs. I think I
just need to close time and it's opened

2297
02:25:15.079 --> 02:25:18.959
the laser displayer displayer. Yeah,
we'll just rattle your head around in the

2298
02:25:18.040 --> 02:25:22.040
laser discplayer for a little bit.
You'll see mad Dog McCree for the rest

2299
02:25:22.079 --> 02:25:24.200
of your days. I wanted to
ask, how do you hook up a

2300
02:25:24.280 --> 02:25:28.000
laser disc player to a modern TV
video? But really, yeah, is

2301
02:25:28.040 --> 02:25:30.760
that the best for the laser displayer. It's the best that my laser displayer

2302
02:25:30.799 --> 02:25:37.639
does. There are better options there
may be considering how how late LaserDisc movies

2303
02:25:37.680 --> 02:25:39.319
were coming out, at some point
someone might have made an HDM mileas or

2304
02:25:39.360 --> 02:25:43.920
displayer. Definitely, not really.
I would be impressed to see a full

2305
02:25:43.959 --> 02:25:50.280
component laser disc player. Yeah,
I mean lasers so yeah, I know,

2306
02:25:50.479 --> 02:25:56.760
but so like converting to that doesn't
people even suggested on my player because

2307
02:25:56.760 --> 02:25:58.680
I was doing crazy research. I've
got a Marantz, which is of course

2308
02:26:00.120 --> 02:26:03.520
kind of a high end. Apparently
turns out it's a rebranded Pioneer but Pioneer

2309
02:26:03.680 --> 02:26:09.639
is the fucking brand player displayers.
And I was reading some some some opinions

2310
02:26:09.920 --> 02:26:15.559
that you actually like the composite is
better than S Video for this, and

2311
02:26:15.840 --> 02:26:18.280
I couldn't quite wrap my head around
it because it had to do with image

2312
02:26:18.319 --> 02:26:22.360
processing chips and just weird shit like
that, because because the only people that

2313
02:26:22.399 --> 02:26:28.319
are still talking about these displayers on
the internet are lunatic ass like audio and

2314
02:26:28.440 --> 02:26:31.360
video files. Who are you know, just like the oh there's Japanese only

2315
02:26:31.440 --> 02:26:33.799
release of this disc, the only
place that you can still get blah blah

2316
02:26:33.799 --> 02:26:37.639
blah blah blah. So I couldn't
quite writ my head around it. But

2317
02:26:39.040 --> 02:26:43.639
yeah, there's it's weird weird people. But I I'm hooked up through S

2318
02:26:43.760 --> 02:26:48.040
video right now because it's as good
as mine goes. Thanks thanks to that

2319
02:26:48.079 --> 02:26:52.399
guy for asking. Yeah, yeah, it was. It accrued to me,

2320
02:26:52.440 --> 02:26:54.879
I'm like ship hower of in these
eyes. I haven't heard him acual.

2321
02:26:54.920 --> 02:26:56.559
He kind of freaked out for a
while and it seemed like he,

2322
02:26:56.399 --> 02:26:58.120
I don't know, got over it, so I wasn't sure if he just

2323
02:26:58.200 --> 02:27:03.840
adjust The guy it's a doctor quote
unquote. Doctors said it would just go

2324
02:27:03.959 --> 02:27:07.799
away and just don't don't go holistic
on it, honest, just yet.

2325
02:27:07.920 --> 02:27:11.000
It's not it's not holistic. It's
guys like it'll go away. It's not.

2326
02:27:11.200 --> 02:27:13.479
It's not time for Christian science just
yet. It's always time for Christians.

2327
02:27:13.799 --> 02:27:20.200
Let's work it out. The reading
room callses it like, Isaac D.

2328
02:27:20.760 --> 02:27:22.520
Yeah, you definitely, if you
know, you gotta start using the

2329
02:27:24.000 --> 02:27:30.559
that's right, glaucoma medicine. Don't
do it around me. Isaac D.

2330
02:27:31.000 --> 02:27:33.920
From Wilmington, Delaware. I was
wondering if you guys knew who owns the

2331
02:27:35.159 --> 02:27:37.040
cruise in that name. These days, I'd love to see a little more

2332
02:27:37.120 --> 02:27:41.879
exotica in my racing. Thanks.
It was a Nintendo publish. Those areas

2333
02:27:43.200 --> 02:27:46.799
Midway Midways are midway games. So
you think Warner ended up probably yeah,

2334
02:27:46.159 --> 02:27:52.000
I mean, well not necessarily thought
some of that, but that seems like

2335
02:27:52.079 --> 02:27:56.719
one that I mean because war bought
like a lump of the stuff, right,

2336
02:27:56.879 --> 02:28:01.200
They basically took over everything that didn't
get sold in that other ways Microsoft

2337
02:28:01.239 --> 02:28:07.200
by hydro Thunder. Yeah yeah I
think so, yeah, I think yeah,

2338
02:28:07.280 --> 02:28:09.840
they create they released that one,
Yeah they did, and they bought

2339
02:28:09.879 --> 02:28:13.639
that license. They owned that.
Okay, like all that stuff just went

2340
02:28:13.719 --> 02:28:16.319
up for an auction. That yah, it's just I think Warner took the

2341
02:28:16.360 --> 02:28:18.319
lion's share of it, right,
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that seems

2342
02:28:18.360 --> 02:28:22.959
like still something. It also seems
like something that someone might actually bid for

2343
02:28:24.239 --> 02:28:26.000
ahead of the Warner buy out.
So I guess we don't know, but

2344
02:28:26.200 --> 02:28:31.559
my guess is it's most likely with
Warner. It's so crazy. Yeah,

2345
02:28:31.559 --> 02:28:33.920
I was gonna say, it's so
crazy that that like that none of that.

2346
02:28:35.520 --> 02:28:37.639
Yeah, Patrick, let's find out
if we can even I can do

2347
02:28:37.760 --> 02:28:41.399
that, even learn that ship,
because because it struck to be a while

2348
02:28:41.399 --> 02:28:45.159
ago, like how does this not
all just like easily accessible public information?

2349
02:28:45.280 --> 02:28:48.920
It is there is a trademark database
and I can just go because you have

2350
02:28:48.040 --> 02:28:54.799
to dive into the awful world.
Yeah, that's marked database when news gets

2351
02:28:54.799 --> 02:28:56.280
real desperate. And then I started
going through patent databases. I know that

2352
02:28:56.440 --> 02:29:00.879
like maybe I needed to like sit
down and come with a new ideas when

2353
02:29:00.920 --> 02:29:05.360
I find myself going through again,
I can find that out if you wanted

2354
02:29:05.360 --> 02:29:07.280
to, if you wanted to get
into the racing game, and so I

2355
02:29:07.319 --> 02:29:11.879
think there's probably the worst ips you
could do it with and cruising right,

2356
02:29:11.120 --> 02:29:13.879
I just know, what would you
do with this kind of thing? Is

2357
02:29:15.120 --> 02:29:18.920
it was part of the tech of
its people remember that name, yeah,

2358
02:29:18.079 --> 02:29:24.200
and send the song the song and
cruising USA was great. Cruising it's not

2359
02:29:24.319 --> 02:29:28.639
as good as not as good as
the Blacks, not as good as Holy

2360
02:29:28.760 --> 02:29:31.319
shit, the Black Night two thousand
song is so fucking good. Oh my

2361
02:29:31.479 --> 02:29:35.760
god, if they could, if
they could just recut Brave Heart or any

2362
02:29:35.879 --> 02:29:41.680
sort of sword fighting anything that's music, I don't care. That's my new

2363
02:29:41.799 --> 02:29:45.479
everything. Trailer music is the Black
Night two thousand music. You put that

2364
02:29:45.520 --> 02:29:50.600
on fucking anything, and it's amazing. Probably, probably I would play I

2365
02:29:50.600 --> 02:29:54.120
would play Brett. I would play
machines that were just near Black Night two

2366
02:29:54.159 --> 02:29:58.319
thousand machines, just so I could
hear the Black Night two thousand song.

2367
02:29:58.399 --> 02:30:01.840
Come on, it's so goddamn triumphant. Was that machine for sale? There

2368
02:30:01.879 --> 02:30:05.479
were a couple of Black Night two
machines, multiple and I don't believe that

2369
02:30:05.639 --> 02:30:07.920
no one is selling their Black Night
or no at least or not that fronting

2370
02:30:09.000 --> 02:30:11.479
like they are selling, because that's
just something you don't sell those get a

2371
02:30:11.520 --> 02:30:15.600
hold of that. Those are treasured
items. One of those was autographed,

2372
02:30:16.079 --> 02:30:22.319
not by ed one of those.
Yeah. Anyway, I bring up California

2373
02:30:22.319 --> 02:30:26.440
Extreme because this next email comes from
Eric and Dublin California at California Extreme.

2374
02:30:26.479 --> 02:30:30.520
The other day, I spotted Ryan
and Jeff playing the Grid. It's true

2375
02:30:30.520 --> 02:30:33.000
I mentioned earlier we played with that
happened we played with with ed. Unbeknownst

2376
02:30:33.000 --> 02:30:35.360
to them, around the corner,
one of their opponents was also playing an

2377
02:30:35.399 --> 02:30:39.920
iPhone game between matches and sometimes while
the match was going on. This person

2378
02:30:41.000 --> 02:30:43.520
appeared to be about twelve years old, and as such I believe represents the

2379
02:30:43.639 --> 02:30:46.159
future of gaming. While for the
future, I also it also made me

2380
02:30:46.239 --> 02:30:52.040
think in which two games could best
go together, would would go best if

2381
02:30:52.120 --> 02:30:54.120
you had to play two at the
same time. Currently, I'm playing Assassin's

2382
02:30:54.159 --> 02:30:58.079
Creed, Brotherhood and Torch Light.
I don't have the strength to try it,

2383
02:30:58.120 --> 02:31:01.000
but it seems like a good combo. Your thoughts trying to think.

2384
02:31:01.000 --> 02:31:07.360
I've definitely played like turn based games
in between levels of like real time game.

2385
02:31:07.440 --> 02:31:09.239
Let's just say, like play some
Quake and then play a little x

2386
02:31:09.319 --> 02:31:13.040
Colm in between. Nothing that elaborate, but you know, it's usually like

2387
02:31:13.440 --> 02:31:20.319
game running on PC or I don't
play some bad Minty. Yeah, yeah,

2388
02:31:20.559 --> 02:31:24.559
I've definitely been like playing you know, I probably played like bullet Storm

2389
02:31:24.639 --> 02:31:28.200
and Dungeon Raid at the same time
at some point. Yeah, you know

2390
02:31:30.120 --> 02:31:33.639
the obvious example, they put the
Jeweled right into the world of Warcreshure likes

2391
02:31:33.719 --> 02:31:37.520
it's in there. But so this
actually made me think that I saw this

2392
02:31:37.639 --> 02:31:41.799
happening elsewhere where. There was a
kid playing like fucking crazy Climber or something

2393
02:31:41.280 --> 02:31:46.360
while he had his open DS in
one of his hands. Nice I was,

2394
02:31:46.639 --> 02:31:50.000
yeah, I was like, fuck, like this, this arcade machine

2395
02:31:50.079 --> 02:31:52.399
is not enough for you. It's
like, no, I need something else

2396
02:31:52.440 --> 02:31:56.120
going on over here. Yeah,
I need That's awesome. It was.

2397
02:31:56.200 --> 02:31:58.559
It was crazy to me because I'm
like, I just yeah, I put

2398
02:31:58.600 --> 02:32:03.319
it playing all my attention into playing
pac Man as well as I can because

2399
02:32:03.360 --> 02:32:05.840
I'm an old man, right,
I can only do one of these games,

2400
02:32:05.719 --> 02:32:07.879
That's right. That was That was
definitely one of those like seeing that,

2401
02:32:07.920 --> 02:32:11.040
I'm like, oh man, that
kid is super young and I'm way

2402
02:32:11.120 --> 02:32:16.840
old. This is this, This
is not enough to keep his attentions so

2403
02:32:16.079 --> 02:32:20.440
used to the high levels of input
like pac Man. Some bullshits like oh

2404
02:32:20.520 --> 02:32:26.680
yeah, Dot's great ghosts yawn,
I want to go back up to the

2405
02:32:26.719 --> 02:32:31.840
fifth floor, get down on some
trees. Yeah, make these games of

2406
02:32:31.879 --> 02:32:39.440
them more fun. David from Cincinnati
for their anniversary Bungee Headed promotion where they

2407
02:32:39.440 --> 02:32:43.840
sold random bags of swag from their
office with the proceeds going to charity.

2408
02:32:43.879 --> 02:32:46.920
I got one and it contained a
sealed copy of Super Marathon for the Apple

2409
02:32:48.040 --> 02:32:52.760
pippin nice wishing. All of my
research on the internet suggests pretty dang hard

2410
02:32:52.799 --> 02:32:54.719
to find. I'm not really a
rare game collector, so I don't know

2411
02:32:54.799 --> 02:32:58.520
what to do with this thing.
Selling on any base seems wrong to me.

2412
02:32:58.559 --> 02:33:01.639
Should I just hang onto it or
some obscure pipping for him on the

2413
02:33:01.719 --> 02:33:05.520
internet and see if any real collectors
want it. I'd check out and see

2414
02:33:05.520 --> 02:33:07.399
what's worth and just hang out of
him. Man, Yeah, get a

2415
02:33:07.440 --> 02:33:09.920
pipping, Okay, go down that
path. That's got it. That's a

2416
02:33:11.000 --> 02:33:15.719
that's a good. Also, if
you find a form with like pipping enthusiast,

2417
02:33:15.760 --> 02:33:18.440
like, let me know because I'd
like to read it. You want

2418
02:33:18.440 --> 02:33:20.600
to know what I just want to
see that communities up here? What's the

2419
02:33:20.600 --> 02:33:24.399
piping crowd talking about these days?
Homebrew? Yeah, guarantee? Yeah,

2420
02:33:26.200 --> 02:33:31.360
apporting some modern thing to the pipping
I saw somebody on Twitter. I want

2421
02:33:31.399 --> 02:33:33.600
to say it was Chris Hohler,
but I can't remember. Somebody was posting

2422
02:33:33.639 --> 02:33:37.440
pictures of a Nintendo World Championship cart
old one last week. Yeah. So

2423
02:33:37.600 --> 02:33:43.159
this this guy, Steve, Steve
Lynn, our our guardian angel during California

2424
02:33:43.239 --> 02:33:48.280
stream, has a nearly complete,
really set of Actually I think it might

2425
02:33:48.319 --> 02:33:50.200
be the gold cart is the only
thing that he's missing from his collection is

2426
02:33:50.760 --> 02:33:52.840
like, that's like the Holy Grail, right, Yeah, that's like that's

2427
02:33:54.000 --> 02:33:56.479
rowing up, you're steak and going
to Vegas. That's yeah. Were those

2428
02:33:56.520 --> 02:34:01.520
things going hundred cares? Was ten? Like ten grand It's but it's like,

2429
02:34:01.879 --> 02:34:05.840
yeah, oh yeah, because that's
uh. That Namco power pad game

2430
02:34:07.000 --> 02:34:11.079
was like, yeah, officially the
most valuable video game ever sold, and

2431
02:34:11.159 --> 02:34:15.000
that was like forty grands. Yeah, you didn't hear about that. The

2432
02:34:15.040 --> 02:34:18.079
game they became what did it?
What did they rename it? They rebranded

2433
02:34:18.120 --> 02:34:20.639
it. It was rebranded his Nintendo's
own power pad like Track and Field.

2434
02:34:20.920 --> 02:34:22.719
What was the name of it was
the game that came out with it.

2435
02:34:24.239 --> 02:34:26.000
It was Worlds like World Class Track
Meet or something like that. It's the

2436
02:34:26.040 --> 02:34:30.159
thing that looked like like Track and
Field and you probably call it track and

2437
02:34:30.159 --> 02:34:31.840
Field, but it was not tracking
field. Like they basically shipped like wasn't

2438
02:34:31.879 --> 02:34:35.280
it some small number like a couple
of hundred copies or something something like that,

2439
02:34:35.440 --> 02:34:37.840
and then Nintendo and then like they
were like they were just like,

2440
02:34:37.879 --> 02:34:39.840
hey, we're gonna put this out
with power pad, like yank it off

2441
02:34:39.959 --> 02:34:45.680
shelves, like like the couple hundred
gets sold or whatever, like some some

2442
02:34:46.040 --> 02:34:50.280
lady sold like a sealed copy for
like forty thousand dollars. My goodness,

2443
02:34:50.200 --> 02:34:56.440
yeah, craziness. Uh, it's
gonna happen to meet some day. Somebody's

2444
02:34:56.440 --> 02:35:00.520
gonna want to buy my not sealed
copy of I was gonna say, Minimony

2445
02:35:00.799 --> 02:35:05.159
Shicato Tambourine for PlayStation one. So
when you die and we have to go

2446
02:35:05.239 --> 02:35:07.479
and sit through all your ships,
oh man, Yeah, I got the

2447
02:35:07.559 --> 02:35:15.879
sealed copy of Mister Mosquito Tony for
the Lisa. I'm pretty sure mister Mosquito

2448
02:35:15.959 --> 02:35:18.799
never came out for the Lisa.
Are you sure? You know what?

2449
02:35:20.319 --> 02:35:24.079
I'm pretty sure he's almost certain,
So I'm I'm pretty sure, and I'm

2450
02:35:24.120 --> 02:35:35.559
almost certain whatever you're I can nearly
guarantee that snitch not a cop. So

2451
02:35:35.600 --> 02:35:39.799
I don't have to tell you if
I am Tony from Lafayette, Indiana worse

2452
02:35:39.840 --> 02:35:45.959
than it's because you can't tell.
I don't have to wear bad Cops from

2453
02:35:46.079 --> 02:35:50.680
from mile away can smell him.
Snitches, we're everywhere, man, Be

2454
02:35:50.760 --> 02:35:58.920
careful what you do, sitch A
snitch thro I'm so sorry, so so

2455
02:35:58.479 --> 02:36:07.559
oh my odd being an unintentional snitch, the worst kind of snitch you got.

2456
02:36:07.879 --> 02:36:09.280
I know, I know, yeah, exactly, I got zero out

2457
02:36:09.280 --> 02:36:11.360
of it. It was not my
intention. I know. Every time I

2458
02:36:11.399 --> 02:36:16.719
watched a cop procedural feel for the
snitch, feel for the poor snitch,

2459
02:36:16.840 --> 02:36:20.719
kindred spirits. Now think of the
snitches, you guys, just think of

2460
02:36:20.760 --> 02:36:24.200
them, Okay, I'm thinking of
him. Tony rights in to say I

2461
02:36:24.239 --> 02:36:28.719
had the opportunity to buy a near
mint conditioned Bad Dudes Versus Dragging Ninja arcade

2462
02:36:28.719 --> 02:36:31.360
cabinet for four hundred dollars. Stop
you right there, Tony, for to

2463
02:36:31.440 --> 02:36:35.680
bucks too much for a Bad Dudes
arcade machine. If it's in super dope

2464
02:36:35.760 --> 02:36:39.479
shape and the monitor is great,
I could see paying four hundred. But

2465
02:36:39.600 --> 02:36:41.440
I see why I already told him, offering him to offer him three hundred.

2466
02:36:41.879 --> 02:36:45.200
Yeah, I mean, yeah,
try and haggle, go and offer

2467
02:36:45.280 --> 02:36:48.920
him three hundred because four hundreds just
it seems like seems to be the way

2468
02:36:48.959 --> 02:36:52.879
to start. It's that stuff.
It's there's a good, a decent double

2469
02:36:52.959 --> 02:36:56.440
Dragon machine for three fifty there.
But you know, it's it. We're

2470
02:36:56.479 --> 02:37:01.200
probably just spoiled coming straight off California
Extreme. And and you know, if

2471
02:37:01.280 --> 02:37:03.440
if you go and look on Craigslists, like there are the places that have

2472
02:37:03.600 --> 02:37:07.799
like the retail storefronts that are charging
way too much money's crazy. And most

2473
02:37:07.799 --> 02:37:11.239
of the stuff on eBay is also
way it's over pretty wild. Yeah,

2474
02:37:11.239 --> 02:37:13.440
it can. It gives you an
inflated sense of what those that stuff is

2475
02:37:13.479 --> 02:37:16.319
actually worth. And then you go
and then you go to calif Extreme.

2476
02:37:16.319 --> 02:37:18.280
But and and again, like I'm
sure there's a density to the amount of

2477
02:37:18.360 --> 02:37:22.559
arcade machines in this area that a
lot of other places do not see most

2478
02:37:22.639 --> 02:37:26.120
of the places. Yeah, it's
the reason why they had the California Extreme

2479
02:37:26.159 --> 02:37:28.399
where they have it. A lot
of them are made right there. Yeah,

2480
02:37:28.680 --> 02:37:31.360
that was the birthplace of good,
good number of those machines for sure.

2481
02:37:33.280 --> 02:37:37.120
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm just gonna
say, Tony for a little I

2482
02:37:37.159 --> 02:37:39.440
don't know, man, if you're
feeling it, if you're like if you

2483
02:37:39.559 --> 02:37:46.040
weigh into bad dudes, how but
I mean again we act quick look though,

2484
02:37:46.200 --> 02:37:50.319
so yeah, you can actually your
value proposition, you make it too

2485
02:37:50.360 --> 02:37:52.840
bad. It's longer than Double Dragon. That's I mean, that's more of

2486
02:37:52.879 --> 02:37:56.040
my point. It's like, you
know that cab that easily converts to a

2487
02:37:56.120 --> 02:38:01.360
Robocops of that era? Probably right
in sure, rob Cock is pretty good.

2488
02:38:03.760 --> 02:38:05.040
Plenty of other games that are.
It wouldn't even non dated stype.

2489
02:38:05.040 --> 02:38:11.040
It would drop right now, probably
like narc you do you have to say

2490
02:38:11.040 --> 02:38:13.479
that, Well, dude already owns
a Neo Geo Cabinet with Sam Show two

2491
02:38:13.559 --> 02:38:16.600
in it, So so he's done. Don't find any other games. You

2492
02:38:16.719 --> 02:38:20.200
got it, you have it.
You got Sam Ruschi on Too Finished.

2493
02:38:20.840 --> 02:38:22.559
Yeah, I was gonna say,
Patrick, I got Sam us as the

2494
02:38:22.600 --> 02:38:26.319
owner of the Neo Geo cabinet.
You kind of buy law, I have

2495
02:38:26.440 --> 02:38:30.120
to own a copy of Sam Show
too? How much just Sam Show two

2496
02:38:30.159 --> 02:38:33.280
costs like ten? Yea, Yeah, it's one of those I need to

2497
02:38:33.280 --> 02:38:39.200
get. No, it's it's eBay, it's relatively easy to find. I

2498
02:38:39.639 --> 02:38:43.120
want to get King of the Monsters. Yeah, it's probably not too hard.

2499
02:38:43.200 --> 02:38:46.239
Like like, that's the thing is
like most of the like, most

2500
02:38:46.280 --> 02:38:48.639
of the great games for that system
are the ones that you would see,

2501
02:38:48.520 --> 02:38:50.479
or at least most of the games
that you want are the games that you

2502
02:38:50.520 --> 02:38:54.360
would see. Fucking every right,
the ones that would be in those like

2503
02:38:54.479 --> 02:38:58.159
six switch cabinets or four switch cabinets, those are the ones that are all

2504
02:38:58.200 --> 02:39:05.399
in my installed memories, except from
Magicians Lord and Nam seventy five. I'm

2505
02:39:05.399 --> 02:39:07.239
Gonna Get Hi Back. I gets
the Owner in a nap seventy five Magician

2506
02:39:07.319 --> 02:39:09.479
Lord, I never loved that game. Yeah, I never thought it was

2507
02:39:09.719 --> 02:39:13.000
great. Get the Superspies the first
person you can got in the face,

2508
02:39:15.639 --> 02:39:18.680
kick a guy in the face.
Superspy is fucking awesome. That Get cross

2509
02:39:18.719 --> 02:39:24.280
swords, Yes, super Spiling you
got swords. Yeah, I'm a guy

2510
02:39:24.319 --> 02:39:26.799
in the face now, I'm seventy
five second time on this podcast? Anybody,

2511
02:39:28.040 --> 02:39:30.680
anybody? We were just talking about
seventy five second God, I was

2512
02:39:30.719 --> 02:39:33.440
so yeah, we were just looking
awesome. I was so thinking about something

2513
02:39:33.520 --> 02:39:37.079
else, all right, but we
can't talk about yet. On that note,

2514
02:39:37.799 --> 02:39:41.000
turn off, they pass cyber lip. I gotta redeem myself here,

2515
02:39:41.000 --> 02:39:43.639
how about cyber Lip. David and
I played cyber Lips start to finish at

2516
02:39:43.639 --> 02:39:46.680
the California Extremes One. You couldn't
think of telling me the Double Dragon there's

2517
02:39:46.719 --> 02:39:52.959
a trench in that game. Well
sorry, I mean there's a mobile there's

2518
02:39:52.000 --> 02:39:56.879
a mobile walking platform. You guys
just snitched on double phone. Yeah,

2519
02:39:58.079 --> 02:40:03.719
welcome to the club jet No.
I actually told those guys when I saw

2520
02:40:03.840 --> 02:40:05.399
him on Sunday, I was like, you should go play Cyberlip because I

2521
02:40:05.520 --> 02:40:09.639
think you guys got a you know, lawsuit. It's in there for like

2522
02:40:09.879 --> 02:40:11.479
a splits like two seconds or something
like that. But I looked at it

2523
02:40:11.559 --> 02:40:15.719
when like a right platform, that
are you know what? Probably Cyberlip too.

2524
02:40:15.760 --> 02:40:20.000
That's an easy license to pick up. So that's what they'll just rename

2525
02:40:20.040 --> 02:40:24.239
the European original. That's a pretty
good name done. Cyberlips terrible names,

2526
02:40:24.520 --> 02:40:28.520
So it's a terrible name until you
played deep enough into it and then you

2527
02:40:28.680 --> 02:40:33.159
see a pair of metal lips talking
to you and it's the Cyberlip and you're

2528
02:40:33.239 --> 02:40:35.959
like, oh, this is great, Like there's literally yeah, it's not

2529
02:40:35.079 --> 02:40:41.200
just literally cybernetic lips in that game. I want to hear any computer that

2530
02:40:41.280 --> 02:40:46.360
tells you at California strang it tells
you that it's not evil, that it

2531
02:40:46.479 --> 02:40:50.959
was just programmed bad. There's programmed
to do bad stuff, but it's not

2532
02:40:50.079 --> 02:40:54.959
inherently evil, like okay, cyberlips. And then you blow up cyberlips and

2533
02:40:54.000 --> 02:40:56.719
then the president who's beginning of your
missions along his eye school red and he

2534
02:40:56.760 --> 02:41:01.840
says mission accomplished that Oh no,
oh no, Ronnie, damn, you

2535
02:41:03.719 --> 02:41:09.520
should not rescue that guy's regardless of
how much he loves cheeseburgers. Ha ha

2536
02:41:11.120 --> 02:41:16.079
ha ha ha ha fuck you,
Ronnie. All Right, that's it for

2537
02:41:16.120 --> 02:41:18.680
emails. Thanks everyone wrote in BombCast
at giant bomb dot com is the address.

2538
02:41:20.360 --> 02:41:24.639
We're playing two on Thursday night throw
down this week. Willen orm from

2539
02:41:24.680 --> 02:41:26.399
Tested gonna come and jump in.
I think we're gonna do some stuff with

2540
02:41:26.440 --> 02:41:30.959
some of the Valve guys too,
So yeah, yeah, yeah, the

2541
02:41:31.440 --> 02:41:35.159
details on that being hammered out as
we speak, but yeah, look look

2542
02:41:35.239 --> 02:41:39.239
for that. Teports two is not
free to play, So anyone, everybody,

2543
02:41:39.319 --> 02:41:41.799
anyone out there, anyone out there, t F two dot giant bomb

2544
02:41:41.840 --> 02:41:46.000
dot com, the run on anything. You got a timex Sinclair, you

2545
02:41:46.040 --> 02:41:52.840
got a Lisa yourself yourself, an
Apple Pippen, Yeah, an Apple Pippin

2546
02:41:52.159 --> 02:41:56.799
No. Two for I don't think
you can put apple. Well, there's

2547
02:41:56.799 --> 02:42:01.159
an Apple pipp And emulator for Neo
Geo. Then on the fucking version of

2548
02:42:01.239 --> 02:42:03.280
TF two, people want to run
on Neo Jo all day long. I've

2549
02:42:03.319 --> 02:42:11.719
seen him Pippin for three. All
right, that's it for this show from

2550
02:42:11.959 --> 02:42:16.520
from the Nark signing off, Thanks
everyone for listening. Back next Tuesday get

2551
02:42:16.559 --> 02:42:20.000
back to the twenty one Jump Street
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