Hey everyone, It's Tuesday, July the twelve, twenty eleven, and you
were listening to the Giant Bomb Cast. I'm Ryan Davis joining me today in
the studio with his headphones on. Citty pretty in his proper chair, black
shirts, short sleeves, amused look on his face. Vitty Caravella, Hi,
Ryan, dy Haw's it go with Vitty? How you doing? It's
pretty good? Patrick Levick's here yep. And now I own in our chad.
I've gone down the rabbit hole. Yep. Patrick Kappa joining us for
his first California Streme this week, and we'll talk about that shortly. Jeff
Gersmon's here as well. Yep. That's that is accurate accent. One hundred
percent of you is here. Hello. Also here and brand shoemakers here jumping
the guns on. No, that's good. I like it. Pre proactive.
Let's do this. I appreciate that talk. All right, we're doing
it, brad Ain, you doing do it pretty good? Yeah? Yeah.
You did not come with us to Extreme this weekend, played newer video
games. You did my house? What are you gonna buy a cabinet?
Man? Where backend? And where am I going to put a cabinet does
living room, bathroom later on. So you need like a name, like
one of those things will run like ten thousand games. Like I put one
of those NICs, it will run a game. Or like if you got
like a Neo Geo cabinet, maybe it'll run like six games man, Yeah,
or am I not even run at all? Yeah? Or yeah?
Most most likely it'll sit there untouched. That would be the best kind.
I've got three of those. They're awesome. It is one of those Immortal
combat machine. No, that one works, I don't have, so they
all work. I just never turn them off. Okay, you want to
buy a missile command machine and really I don't know, maybe i'll give I'll
give you fifty dollars. That's that's pre jailer, right, ye oh yeah,
that is just the miss command Yeah, yeah, give you fifty five
dollars streams command machine. I will I will come and get your missile command
machine for fifty bucks. So what happened at California is is what happened at
California. So for those who don't know, California Streme in the Big Classic
Arcade Show in Santa Clara. It happened this past weekend. I was there,
Dave Signer was there, Jeff was there, and Patrick coming for his
first year. Jeff, I think you mean and Dave have gone for the
past three years running. Now the photos to prove it, and it's yeah,
he wouldn't do what we do, or at least the fact that we
went to the Bennigans near the close enough. You look at some of those
pictures and see the wrist bands for California Extreme, I'm sure that's I think
you're the CSI it. He'd be able to eventually prove you were there.
You're all enhanced, Yeah, enhanced, enhanced chance this area here on his
wrist, Yeah, that's it. That's kind of extreme. Everyone knows that.
Can we clean this up some right here? Uh So three years running
and it's it's a delight. It's just a fun time to go. It's
just a big old room full of class arcade games and pinball machines and uh
play and everything. Yeah, you pay a general admission to get in and
then everything set to free play and you just it's free play. But it's
also kind of tricky because some of them have like little wires getting out where
you have to press a button Yeah. So it's actually like some of them
are kind of it's a game to figure out. You approach the cabinet and
it's like, okay, is there just credits going? Is it just free
play? Yeah, because a lot of these machines is gonna you have to
open up like take you know, the coin slot, open that up,
go find a little switch. Yeah, tell you that a bunch of times
you should just not be free play options and older games. So yeah,
it's either that or you know, provide quarters for everybody and then everyone will
just steal all the quarters. So last year we picked up a couple of
machines at the show, our NBA Jam cabinet and our our street Fight or
two cabinet that are that are sitting in the office now, and that's what
it led to. The other machines. Yeah, that that you're ultimately led
on to video and I going in on his nif you catch a kind of
The thing I loved about California Extreme was like everybody there is there because they
love the arcade scene and they're not really there to make money off of anything.
It's a non for profit organization. Everyone there is volunteers. Everyone that's
bringing in games are just collectors that just want to show off stuff to people,
and they're there to sell and sometimes move, but it never feels like
they're there to rip people off, right. It feels like we're gonna it's
a community whatever. So you kind of catch that vibe while you're there and
be like, oh, man, yeah, this is pretty cool. It's
a feel good thing. I always wanted an arcade machine. This is kind
of awesome, man. And finding a big group of people who are so
passionate, so excited about this stuff, and so like as an adult,
when I walked in there and I realized, Wow, this is suddenly this
could be a reality. It's totally within reach. Yeah. Yeah, like
these machines are sitting here, maybe a jam for two hundred bucks, Like
two hundred bucks is like that's like zero dollars in a lot of ways,
it might as well be free. Yeah, it's like I just need to
skip a lunch a couple of days. What's two hundred actually losing money if
you don't buy that exactly. So at that point is where the mind eventually
goes bread. So when you cross that threshold and you're be like like,
ohcade machine, Because when you're a kid, it's like that's you pay a
lot of money to pay the brass ring baby an Ricky Schroeder style silver spoons.
I got a fucking arcade machine in my own house. Don't take me
to the toy train Expo because yeah, the whole place clean out. So
then you walk out and I was like, this whole world, this world
has now opened up to us, and I we just went on a tear.
The thing is that everyone knows everyone else, so once you meet one
of the guys, then they know the problem is right, and then you
then you are exposed to this vast and intricate network of warehouses, like throughout
the Bay Area and imagine beyond where the fighting happens. But these warehouses where
all of these dudes are just storing the arcade machines, because most of these
machines are just sitting somewhere unused three days out of the year, right.
And there's also a limited number of arcade machines because it's not like they're making
new ones, so they've all passed around from like these twenty five dudes in
their collection of like, oh you've got the Warlords machine. Now that's cool.
That's great. You've got You've got Johnny. You know that's right Bill
Bill's old Warrens machine, Like Ed bought it from me and then he traded
me Popeyes and swapped him that. Yeah, so like everybody knows each other.
And then Ryan, you and I just kind of went post show and
picked up Yeah, we picked up the bug. And it was like because
what we kept hearing was like the oh, well, you know it's it's
not here at the show. But this guy that's showing has the swarehouse and
he's got that machine and he's wanted to sell for this much. You're correct.
There are warehouse listings of like hey, open warehouse. Yeah, we
have this warehouse that has way to an air. Kbuchet's coming to check him
out and take stuff because you know, a lot of the stuff is so
old that it can't you can't like put this in a location like you might
have some ex coin op dudes and every crowd there that that might be like
putting them in launch. You know, no one's but like a star Castle
machine, you're saying they're not commercially viable anymore, like nobody wants to play.
It's not like a conditioned thing. No, No, it's very few
games that people are gonna want to pay to play, right, Yeah,
what are you gonna pay a quarter in a fucking laundromat? A quarter has
changed? I'm to go to a laundry Well, he might have to live
in the city, OK, but you're gonna use that quarter do your laundry
act to go play a Popeye And it's true. The quarter string with some
gum and then that works. So you got all these and I feel like
you get this crowd of nostalgia people that are like, I'm gonna buy I
don't know where I'm gonna put it where, I'm gonna put it in this
warehouse that. And then I got married and then my wife is like,
you need to get rid of that stupid warehouse. That the storage space,
and then the dude's that California extreme being like I need to get rid of
these five games I have in a storage place out in Pedaluma. And then
he's like, here, do you want this NBAJ machine for two hundred dollars
and then say yes, right, and then it infects the next person where
it's like, now I've got three machines that I have nowhere to put but
I got him for like six hundred bucks. Take the pall. That is
how the the arcade collecting super aids gets passed from one person to the next.
What is because once, once I'm a decision to get mine, and
I felt really good about it, but then this intense dread, terror and
stress came over me, like after the elation of like, yes, I'm
buying a bust of Mood cabinet for two hundred dollars. It's great. Fuck,
I haven't thought this through. I didn't. I eyeballed it. I
think it'll fit through my door, but I you know, I can't say
there's any certainty. And then if it's Sunday, so if I go back
in a camp in the door, well you hauls closed. So where am
I gonna put it? Like, oh shit, just just all these woods.
Before you get to the end of your story, plas, let's bring
it back to the beginning. You show up Saturday, Saturday afternoon. Saturday
afternoon, you and you and Katie come in and she's cruising the floor playing
games. I think the first time I see you, you you two are
on the bust and move cabinets. Yeah, yeah, we we have a
lot of space in our kitchen and we aren't gonna spend the money to a
model because we're renting. So you're like, we gotta get some sort of
theme into this room or something, and you know we're getting married next year.
So like buying our cake came and it's kind of a hard cell,
but I was like, all right, well, you know, I'll take
her down and like I'll kind of feel out like which games she is enjoying,
and then maybe I can make her come around. And she loves polo
games because she's way better at them than I am. So it's crucial that
she can kick my ass at a game because it's just not possible and like
any sort of modern game level. So she became entranced by this busting move
machine and like I just let I know. I didn't push it. I
just let it goes like well, you know, it's three hundred dollars,
and she was like, oh, I thought they were like a thousand dollars.
Three hundred is a lot more reason why I was like, all right,
so it's been late There was and I heard only about this, but
there was a late night turn where you guys were again back, like because
so so California stream goes over the full weekend and on Saturday night it stays
open to like two am. So there's you get this two am. I
can confirm that you get this, but you get it's it turns at a
certain point where it's like during the day, it's like, you know,
a bunch of collectors and families there and it's this you know, fun,
very friendly environment. But at a certain point, the crowd kind of thins
and turns and people have been at the hotel bar for a while or just
in their rooms drinking, and then so like this this CD late night kind
of vibe starts to kind of set in. It becomes the ark that you
sort of imagine in your mind like what it used to be like. And
and then it becomes that had it was some really questionable smells and it's yeah,
so we're sitting there. We immediately like we're gonna play a bunch of
more games, like we I wanted to play the it was the Adams family
that had a like a bike attached to it had to be running out in
order to keep keep keep it going, and but we just were gravitated to
the bust machine. We were drunk, and then it became much more fun
to play because it was a little even match. She was missing some over
shots, so I was able to get a get back in. But then
we had a bunch of people that were playing, and at some point someone
like made the remark, uh so Patrick stopped, stopped sucking around, is
get this machine? And Katie goes, yeah, stop making excuse this clubbingses
witnesses she is officially signed on to this endeavor. And and you know,
so it was two and am it hadn't been sold yet. It's still the
sticker. So I was like, all right, well this opens at eleven.
I'll put in some calls in the morning, we'll get this ball rolling
in the direction. Because I have no experience doing this, so I didn't
I don't know how to haggle, Like I don't even like the guest three
in our bucks is like I don't know what's reasonable to seventy five, Like
like what's the offer prize? Everyone was telling keep, don't pay three hundred
bucks, Like the three hundred seems really reasonable. But I ended up having
Uh, well so you got all these laser discs. Yeah, so so
this is kind of where our stories started to hit intermingle indeed. So so
you know, a big shout out to Steve Lynn. I just want to
say, probably on the air. He was He's a an arcade collector,
showed up at California Stream. I guess he's shown in years past, didn't
show this year. Uh, and as a Giant Bomb fan and had had
heard about my my laser disc collecting exploits. And I guess I'm not sure
if he just had these or he it sounded like he had picked them up
from someone else who was clearing out their collection, and so we got him
for next to nothing and was just passing them along to me. But he's
like, hey, you know, come come meet me a California Stream and
I'll give you this big old box of laser discs and a buch crazy like
really crazy, awesome, like kind of rare shit. So I was.
I was very excited for that. Uh. And we and we talked a
bit, and and we learned about more kind of shared friends and connections both
inside and outside of the game's business. But he was very cool about all
that. Also, I was able to provide Vinnie with a soundboard for his
Jews yeah, I haven't. I haven't tried dropping it in yet. But
yeah, thanks so much for for forgiving that to me. Let's go play
some jobs after this. So I'm not sure how he there's another mutual friend
of that basically cook you up with him. So Chris Kohler over at Wired,
like he had, I mentioned I'm looking at this bust Move machine,
and and then like I mentioned over Twitter, and he finally texted me like,
I haven't I know this guy. Just just just text him and say
that you're interested in the machine and he knows all the people, and so
I do. I just texted this guy all I know. His name is
Steve Stevelyn. I'm like okay, And I was like, hey, I'm
mentioned this bust Move machine. It's like three hundred bucks, Like you know,
Kohler told me. You know, somebody's like, yeah, you're not
paying three hundred dollars. But I just tell me, are you in that?
We're waiting for for you guys to me as a breakfast. It's like
Katie, are we in? S yeah? So so I said yes,
And you know, about about an hour later, Texas says, two hundred
bucks, it's yours. I'll start working on transport, and I'm like,
all right, because that's the big thing, right right, I had I
had not I had thought about me to coming to get one, but I
had, like I just had a Honda Element like I it's not really made
too. I'd given you, I'd given you all of the like you know,
pre warning stuff about hey, you know it's it is. The hardest
part is it's the reason why people are selling them for cheap is because they
are giant pieces of hardware that are a weird It's like the world's most useless
refrigerator, right, but like way more top heavy and fragile and and just
a awkward to move. Yeah, extremely awkward to move, always too wide
to get into the doors that you need to get them into. So it's
yeah, it's that's the moving them is always the nightmare. So I wanted
to prep you for that part. Yeah, so I'm so it was the
transport. So so then I met it was Steve, and uh, I
was like, hey, so I got you know, I got cash out,
like you know, let's go buy it. He's like, I already
took care of it. So I gave him the money because he had already
like again, I'm like this is weird, but I'm like this is really
nice, Like this is going very smooth. It's like I'm gonna start working
on transport. But at that point, that's when the dread starts setting and
I'm like, well, what if what if you can't figure something out and
I'm stuck with this machine sitting on the side of the road. I know
what. I tried to call you haul and like I got something set up
because I was like, well, it's two hundred bucks, so if I
have to pay one hundred thirty for a van at this point, I'm you
know, I thought I was gonna pay three hundred bucks. That's pretty even
money. So so I think I'm all right, but I set that up
and then he goes. He texted me and he's like, hey, so
I found this guy with a pickup truck. I'm like, okay, found
that. It's like, well, I'll just we can use a pickup truck.
We can go to the city and I'll help you move to the arcade
counted in and you know, you can just cancel the U haul And I'm
like, all right. If this doesn't happen, though, you all closes
at five we have to load at six, I'm gonna be stuck with this
thing. Well, you guys are all leaving. I'm like, no,
I have like no friendly options. So I will tell you this, and
this is the out that you didn't know that you had it. Thankfully you
didn't need it. But the folks that run California Stream, and I think
in part also the the people that run the convention center are fairly understanding to
this situation and we'll allow stuff to stay until the next day if you need
that, like need that extra time to figure how to get out a lot
less stress that afternoon. If I had known that, Yeah, So that's
that's a key thing, is like, because we went through the same thing
last year of buying machines and not having any sort of transport figured out,
and then basically getting to the end of the day and going like, fuck,
what do we do now? Like the convention centers closing up, and
we have we have ownership of these two machines, and oh god, we
ended up looking out because like one of the machines we bought, the guy
I had a truck and kind of I guess we worked at delivery out of
the delivery with that one, yeah, and so like, hey, can
you take this other one? We got yeah, So we ended up getting
him to bring us both of them the next day. Uh. And so
he was like that we learned about this, you know, kind of this
this grace period because he was like, yeah, I'm not even here,
I'm gonna be coming back tomorrow on Monday to go and actually get the machines.
And we'll also imagine those guys that win some of the raffle things,
so we're not necessarily prepared to go ship this pinball machine. Yeah, how
the play we're gonna get that anywhere? Imagine people coming to like far away.
Imagine like, you know, one guy came from Ireland, Like what
if he'd won that raffle you put a sticker on it immediately, right,
stickers, six hundred bucks, just something anything at all, please yes,
hires the carapets stupid anyway, So the ones I got given away, yea.
So graduation. So the great conclusion to this story is that so Steve
drives me up in this pickup truck. You know, I thank the guy
that I don't know profusely for a lying me to go in his pickup truck
with this arcade cabinet. We get it to my place and as Steve and
I are rolling it in wheels on the corner, no, we we had
to get we got it big Dolly and like trucking along hangling it. But
as we're rolling it into the gate and I fortunately live in the first force,
just like four small steps. It really was not too big of a
deal. There was this gaggle like fifteen kids that were like eight ten years
old, and as I'm rulling this arcade cabinet into my place, and I'm
like like, I feel like this is this is a sign because if I
had seen this when I was there, because immediately all start going is that
an arcade machine? And I was like, I was like, yeah,
I just bought it there, Like you can do that, you can you
can have this too. I don't know what the scene's going to be like
in fifteen years, but someday you can live this dream. What are those
cabinets made out of? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, a lot of press
boards, so they're not going anywhere. They're not like a deteriorate from what
I've seen. They get the shride to make other cabinets I've seen video Archie,
but I'm talking there's no like rod going on or anything like that.
So the material it's off the particle board breaks apart, doesn't. Yeah,
every time you move it, you are you're testing the tensile strength of the
materials. I think the biggest limiting factor are the CRTs that are just yeah
wearing out. Yeah, CRTs wearing out and not being able to get replacements
for those. Is I need to get for the street Fighter machine that we
have here, I need to get a new I guess that's a nineteen inch
monitor or anything. Yeah, we need to get a new monitor or or
a cab kit might get recapped. Yeah, but yeah, but after buying
this, like like as we're sitting like we got it in and Katie are
like wrapping her heads around, They're like, we're thring a beer and like
looking like there's a cabinet next to us. Did you play a bunch of
it? Oh yeah, yeah yeah, but it sort of the cabin and
I bought is also it's a new a Gio machine. So this is the
most exciting part to me, in the part where where I feel like Patrick
has has done done this the best out of all of us other than Jeff
Splitz cabinet, which he paid nothing for. I haven't paid anything for any
of my machines. I guess that's true, other than upkeep on the pinball
machine. Although you did pay for that street Fighter cabinet, I did pay
for that. You didn't pay anything for a Blitz machine I wanted at E
three By being very good at Blitze. He had already played a lot of
Blitz on the Blitzer KDE machine that was in the office. So yeah,
because of that, that that kind of helped his chance pay on another one.
You're having this house and never play, so it's ninety nine at Jeff's.
But yeah, so so Patrick, in addition to only paying two hundred
bucks for this for this cabinet bust Move cabinet, it turns out that it's
a standard proper Neo Geo MBS system with you haven't been able to drill out
the lock yet. Yeah, no, there's no key to open the lock
to get into the board. So but when I was looking through like the
debug menu like it, the way was listed out and it's a slot one.
You know, it's possible that this is a multi slot machine. So
but even even the one slots still say that like it's just the same bios.
Okay, but it's it's not even that, it's even if not the
fact that you can still just place those cartridges is very easy. Yeah,
that that is. That is Yeah, there's there's it's trivial to do that,
I would say, which I'm gonna dig through, which opens up a
whole new gate of getting into MBS collection because it's so easy to get those
individual cards and it can be oh so expensive Magical Drop for two fifties,
it's more. That's more than buyer. You're gonna you're gonna pay more for
one card at some point than you paid for the whole cabinet, because that's
the joy over a thousand dollars on a Neo Geo. Yeah, so I
mean you get the MBS of that for a song. I had the Dreamcast
version, so I didn't really need to play that one much, probably like
five times. It's very it's very it was it was like sixteen hundred.
That was like a twelve or something like that. Yeah, but yeah,
there were some games that I paid like four or five hundred bucks. But
but that's the yes, like the MVS versions are, what's the difference I'm
so new to this. Arcades though it's home card like for's home card versus
arcade cart It's just a different and it's weird because it's actually identical, like
if you can, you can get adapters to play one on the other.
The only difference is the bios on the hardware itself is what tells it if
it requires quarters or not. Oh so, so even with an arcade machine,
you can get an adapter for it to play like a home car.
Yeah. Yeah, but the things that home cartridges are generally rarer than arcade
cards, so well, the rarities are totally different. Metal slug one is
like trivial to own in one format, but over a thousand dollars in the
other or something like that. As far as I don't so, I maybe
my magical drop for tuber than two fifty, depending on how it's sort of
well, I'm just just rare. Yeah, And I'm not sure how the
adapter situation works for getting home cards into the arcade. I know the other
way around, it's like three hundred bucks for the for something, but yeah,
I don't know that starts anyway. Welcome anyways, Welcome to the wonderful
world of arcade ownership. So Brad, you know what game would you?
Brad? You know what? I'll tell you this. I actually saw it.
I was so after the show and looking at at at Patrick's hall and
and cursing him under my breath. I started looking at at some local listings
and found a pretty decent NeoGeo multi slot for four dollars right now, Yeah,
for like four hundred bucks, not far from me. And I believe
that same guy had a clean, clean looking MK two's like but like crazy
clean have the board? Yea. I bought an MK two board five years
ago, you kind of kind of like I bought like an NBA jam and
like Pit Fighter because like Pitt Fight was like seventy bucks? What am I
doing? Like? I should buy this just in case, in case you
ever ever want to play Pit Fighter. Actually, I bought it about hooking
it up to what's it called a supergunnper gun. Yeah, but the supergun
we had was was not wired up for that resolution. Yeah right right,
That's why we started getting all that CET too. Shit. Yeah, because
that stuff works. Yeah yeah, the CBS two stuff works. You just
need those Capcom kick harnesses. Anyway, it's poison man. Yeah, no,
it infects you the most delicious of poisons. I think v NBS,
I think is probably the holy grail I will. I will say. One
thing with my machine is that I had originally been looking at a primal rage
machine. There was five hundred dollars. Yeah, and then I played a
primal Ragin was like, I don't want to buy this machine anymore, but
it's great. Is that my bust to Move machine was originally a primal razing
machine. It still has Primal rage stickering on it. So I essentially got
a primal rage machine which we got like like near Geo branding and ship.
It's gone through a couple ye. I just loved it. I had consciously
put away the primal age. It came back in just a different form.
You cannot defy the great magnets. Also realizing that the guy who was selling
the Primal Rage machine was the same dude that sold Vinnie his Jaws machine,
so oh yeah, yep, ye same dude. So so what are the
what are the MVS cards you go for? Like top five? Most don't,
I don't know. Jeff and I both owned a number that if you
want to just I'll just take them out. And what was the one the
guys are telling me The puzzle game with the money Puzzle Exchanger, which I
kind of hard to find. Jeff has a copy. I bought that in
Japan. It ended up cost me a little bit. Yeah, but it
was worth that. I think that was like two hundred bucks, but it
was just worth it. This game is amazing. It's like anime girls changing
money into higher quantities of money. Great puzzle game. It's great, it's
great. It's available, you can get the It's one of those ps imports
that they do on PlayStation Network. Oh really, because it came out on
the Japan. Yeah. Money Idle Exchange, I think is what they listed
as there. But I always his name. I always knew it, his
money puzzles change. We well, now now that Katie we have this Sarca
campus, she has a theme. She's not gonna start turning the kitchen into
a bar. So eventually we're gonna get it set up with a with the
white boards. We're gonna be doing, you know, like bust move cash
games in my place. So there will be a welcoming party once once that
is a little more established, and maybe that's when we'll have the carts brought
over and we can see what it does. So suffice to say, you
had funny California this weekend. Well, I'm exhausted though, that is it's
hiring. Yeah. I spent I think me and Dave spent like five hours
on Saturday sitting by the pool drinkings. And it was like mid day,
like two to eight or something like that. While you were doing that,
I was sleeping in my hotel room. Yeah, so you know, that's
that's how I kind of kept it from from getting on top of me too
much. It was, you know, copious breaks for beers. Oh,
I slept a lot. It was so good though. I didn't regret it
at all. You just disappeared for a long time. Yeah, I said.
He takes like, what are you doing for dinner? And she's like
nothing for hours. Well, it's definitely like something happened. So I was.
I was awoken by the fireworks going off at at Great America at about
ten, which ten ten pm, bad time to wake up from a nap,
bad baby. He's like, oh no, it's super dark and laid
out, and I'm just waking up all fuzzy aheaded. So I think that's
right around the time of me and day, We're finally like, man,
we should probably get something to eat. Just get a whole ryme yep.
And then it was like all right, hot dog run and then after hot
dogs, like, guess what, I'm going? Right the fuck back to
sleep? That was pretty good, Like twelve hours asleep that night. It
was amazing. I haven't gotten that much sleeping forever. I loved it,
loved it to death. It was great. Weekend a balcony. Next weekend,
California Sleep Extreme Mastress Convention. Are you are you? Are you able
to share your Twitter story? What was my Twitter st Oh? Okay,
sure, yeah, I'll share this one on what the fuck? I guess
I really got nothing to lose here, so the crowd that comes to California
Extreme. Oh. It's also worth worth noting that in the convention center that
that this was happening in, which was attached to a hotel, and I
was staying at that same hotel, although Jeff, Dave, and Patrick all
had to stay at the Hilton across street because the Hyatt had sold out,
which which was strange to me. Yeah, I was just I had never
seen a book up like that during Californying stream. But I found out a
few days in advance that oh, there's also gonna be a Jehovah's Witness convention
happening in the convention center. At the same time, it's like, okay,
well that's clearly what's what's filling the place. Wildly different crowds. Yes,
the Joe's Witness people. You did not confuse the two Joe's Witness people.
Well dressed and didn't smell bad. Everyone's super nice on all sides.
Sure, but but yeah, from from a from an appearance perspective, easy
to spot the Joe's Witness people in the California Stream people. Anyway, at
one point I think this was uh, this was Sunday, Saturday. It
felt like it felt like it was a longer period of time, but yes,
it would really everything happened on Saturday. Yeah, right, right,
you're you're right, you're right. Yeah, but midday, midday Saturday,
went back out to my room, uh, fifth floor, get off the
elevator, and am just immediately slammed in the face with the overwhelming smell of
pot just just bare wanna smell, just like I'm like, it might as
well be someone blowing it directly into my face. Like that's how strong it
is, Like it's right there. It's it's not like like you could smell
kind of like the weird perfuning smell of the hotel intermingled with It's like,
no, this is the only smell coming right like those hot boxing the fifth
floor of this hotel, Like it has to have been like you know,
you walk out of the elevator lobby into like the floor and there's the hallway
goes left and right from there and there's like maybe like five or six rooms
kind of like right in that basic area. Like it had to been one
of those rooms because it was just right there in your face. No towel
under the door, No to like put the towel under the door and crack
the window. It's like just amateur hour or they just didn't give a fuck.
Uh. It's worth noting this is not the first time that I've experienced
this at that high at during California last year. Definitely last year had the
same thing. Was like when we first walked in and to get our rooms,
it was like, oh, hey, California streams happening. If you
got smoking, if you got them bro. Yeah, definitely the mentality amongst
certain convention goers. Anyway, I get back to my room and I thought,
hey, you know, I'll tweet about this, just give give some
folks a little sense of the flavor here at California Extreme, to say,
hey, fifth floor of the Higher Reasons seeing Santa Clara stinks like marijuana.
Good job, keep good looking out at California Extreme. And then I believe
at that point I do nap, and then I wake back up and look
at my phone and realize that I have been repplied to by uh. I
just want to just pull out my phone so I can just verify the exact
verbiage here. This is this is the magic of the Internet and Twitter and
not realizing the consequences of just saying things and people having alert set up for
certain keywords. It's like I wrote to Apple at one point, I said,
I'm here at the Applebee's. It's this or suicide. Like the Applebee's
account wrote back to me like what. I was like, No, what's
wrong, I'm just talking shit about Applebee's. It wasn't That was not the
exact me. He was like, what's wrong with that? Like totally oblivious
to me just go like, God, I want to kill myself instead of
eat your food. But you're open lates the only out here. Oh oh
oh, this might take too long to find. Oh here, it is
all right from the account at Hyatt concierge at Taswell. That is horrible.
I wanted to let you know. I have contacted the mod and they are
sending security up to the fifth floor. You busted sound get Oh my gosh,
it just gets stitches. Totally. I totally narked out some poor harmless
pot smokers. Like I not the outcome that I would have wanted at any
point. But it's great because you said, like the fifth floor, you
gave them the house, gave them everything. What is the mood the manager
on duty? Okay, what are they gonna do you? I hope nothing
happened. I hope I hope that no one got ejected or you know,
get worse A stern talking to I mean, you can't really what are you
gonna sniff it out and find? You can't pinpoint the room and then they
don't have to answer the door. Right. Yeah, they're probably still and
they were probably not even there at that point, but still I effectively knarked
out nar don't so don't tell me anything. Ever, that's what's gonna happen,
at least with no identifying markers. Hey, Vinny, do you want
to do some cocaine later? Don't tell then, I just kind of want
to you that for rants are tweeting random show. Yeah, that was the
other fellow that I had. Is just started. Man, I'm at the
Sheridan and his fucking white powder all over the floor here. This is third
floor. It's kind of fucked up. I don't know why this naked guy
is taking a dump in the middle of the third floor of this high in
Boston, but I'm not very cool with that. Third floor of the Nakati
applies its bullets everywhere, just fucked up Twinkie rappers and ship. Is there
a live raccoon in the lobby of your holiday in on the seventh floor rooms?
It seems kind of weird. Yeah, that's that's the fun part,
is when you just start fucking with other I'm on the fourth floor, but
I have friends that are up on the seventh floor. There's just blood oozing
out of twelve that they marryout here on period seven. I'm not really sure
what that's about. I'm hungry, that's right in. Yeah, oh,
this is just an innocuous whatever day, trolling out there. Great dinner tonight.
But then I got back to discover that the hotel room next to mine,
he's on fire. There's a trail of toes leading into the supply camera
regency. Anybody want lunch? So yes, that was that was my unfortunate
accidental discovery. Yeah, so just know, just know that there are brands
watching me or every goddamn move on Twitter. Yeah, that social media is
really scary. Yeah, did you reply to it? It's just like,
you know, so it's out there doing that, Jamie Kennedy's out there doing
that like it's it's yeah, there was there was no hashtagging or like adding
like it wasn't like hey I'm trying to get high. It's attention over here,
or wasn't like at the highest No, no, no, it was
just I just typed in higher regency in Santa Clara fifth floor, bring gun
real non description. H I definitely unknowingly, unwittingly gave them released specific in
retrospect, Well, you know, in retrospect, that's on me, that's
true. I'll say the silver. Yeah, you know what, I'll take
that. At least they're looking out though, they're trying to give you the
best hotel. You know what if that bothered you, Yeah, absolutely absolutely,
And you know if they can't the Hyatt can't parse out like sarcasm or
irony from fucking Twitter, they just have to take all that. There's a
hotel chain. That's nuts, not a human exact Johnny. It's not Johnny
Hyatt out there looking at the account. I want to check into any rooms
under the name Buds smoke up for twenty arcade Kings. So that's that's if
he's on the fifth floor, find him. Just watch Billy Mitchell after that
other Twitter account that says just smoked out the seventh Flora. Oh no,
put two and two together. Find these guys. Man, I'm just gonna
start. My room's real small here at the we're in man and McCAT farted
it. It is, Jeff, you identified it and correctly so as the
creepy, weird, scary part of social media is the like improving your customer
service by just publicly bitching about stuff on Twitter. Yeah it's I don't like
doing it. Yeah I did it a couple a couple of weeks ago.
Yeah, for what I had ordered like the Beastie Boys album online and never
got any kind of email anything about whether the order had been processed and had
like got charged by PayPal. But never They're supposed to immediately send a download
code that I never got and all this stuff. So I waited like three
weeks. I waited like a week and then wrote in and said, like,
you know, there's a email address on the PayPal receipt that said where
to right too, So I wrote to that address. Didn't hear back as
a company it's like a fulfilment company that is, you know, it specializes
in doing this. And then waited another couple of weeks and wrote on Twitter
again minus to stop payment. Dispute this PayPal charge to company name because they
won't respond to my emails about this stuff. And then like five minutes later,
someone goes send an email to this address, He'll escalate it for you.
And so I wrote to that guy and then he just kind of snis
broke back, like that's not our customer service address. Uh, you should
have filled out this form, And I said, well, the receipt I
got from PayPal has this address on it, and then I received a ticket
number in response. So if that's not the right address, you were doing
a very good job making it look like it is the the right channel for
for that. And it got taken care of like within like two hours after
that, and it's it's just check my cloud. Yeah. At some point
I feel like it's just like I'm using whatever follower number I have to to
bully companies around and I hate that feeling. Uh, And I but I
got my down code, but as I was writing it, it's I almost
didn't send it like I wrote it out, just going like, oh,
here what I'm doing right now, eating a sandwich, trying to try to
think stuff? Yeah, frust to writing yes, yes, Like the Twitter
message is just like what's frustrating you right now? Yeah? We should we
should just all make a Twitter account that's like, you know, bitching a
ship that we all just share and everybody follows. And it's like, I'm
just gonna write a tweet says like, you know, Comcast fucking sucks.
They're charging me way too much. I don't think they responded anymore, because
that's what everyone says on Twitter is just this NonStop fuck Comcast. Those guys
are asshole. Same thing. Yeah, but I'm at AT and T.
But I was also writing about my how I'm probably gonna switch to Comcast pretty
soon because my current ISP just doesn't have enough speed. And it's like a
great local ISP, like they're awesome, but they just they don't have the
speed. And like the CEO of that ISP like responding said, yeah,
you gotta go where the band with this, I totally understand no our feelings.
And I was like, yeah, are you expanding soon? He said,
not not in your area immediately, but you know, like I will
go back to them as soon as they offer a high speed service, but
don't they just don't have it right now. It's funny because this is actually
this will be the second time I've left this ISP. The first time was
because they didn't have dial up numbers in my town and I was spending like
one hundred and fifty bucks a month calling into their dial up. Uh,
that's a long time ago dial up modems. So the Internet like like you
know, like LaserDiscs pet you know, PEPSI has an account and they write
things like asking like trying to get you to engage with their brains. I
just wonder who follows those accounts, Like I sort of get why they respond
to people when they have like keywords searches set up, right, But who
is following pepsi? Yeah? Like and they're posting stuff like they're trying to
engage people, like, hey, it's summertime. What are you doing to
beat the Like who the fuck's going? Like, well, pepsi, I'm
trying to stay high school pepsi? Pepi? Yeah, fucky car rules from
the RC account not drinking pepsi? Sh what are you talking? RC Cola
doesn't own computer. That Coca Cola Twitter account has like three times as many
followers as Pepsi. That's how That's how far down this I went, like
a couple of weeks ago. It's like sitting there stair to this going,
Man, that's a fuck. That's a bumber. Like when when companies sign
like when they post things on Twitter and then sign it with the person's initials,
who's answering who's responding? It'll say, like, you know, like
I'll care at sim We'll say k K, who's that? I don't know?
Sometimes yeah, sometimes the list who it is on some other page somewhere
that you're supposed to go care about. And I was like, what kind
of feel like? I wish you're going to those pages as anyone that's following
Pepsi or Coke and just mask block all of them from ever following me,
Like I just like eliminate you from the pool of people. This is an
either or proposition here, people, Either you were following Hamburger helper on Twitter
or you're following me. That's it. I might follow him, Yeah,
I wouldn't want to know who's that's the problem. You can't again, you
can't part out like who's following Coca Cola? Ironically, right, Neil Hamburg
Yeah, Neil Hamburger is sitting there following all of the brands and then taking
on them every time assholes. It's pretty accurate spot on Neil Hamburger impression both
in content and zone. Hey you yeah, be careful. So just know
that they can go the great way that it went for Jeff, that you
can get your your customer service needs met and you'll feel dirty about it,
but at least you got your customer service needs met, or it goes my
way and did not mean for those to be your customer service needs but they
got met anyway. I like the thing I did, the Applebeast thing.
I felt kind of bad about it because it just meant someone was sitting there
like looking at that. What can I ride back to try and like salvage
this potentially disastrous situation because this is because this is my fucking job, sitting
here and monitoring this Twitter feeds my job and I can't decide if this guy
who was, you know, writing about killing himself in the same breath as
Appleby's as kidding or not. So how do I ride that fence? I
got really and actually I worried in that situation because I'm just like, man,
it wouldn't take much to figure out that I live where I live right
and like work backwards and like you know, like a manager might appear alongside
me and sell I understand, fine, I just just yeah, exactly.
So it's just give me some chicken fingers. You know what you say on
the thing, this is you know what this man is. Listen, this
is all really good because you know what this is, This is real world
consequences for your internet bullshit, and and honestly we could all use a little
bit of that. Well, like you guys get those automated messages like like
you type about your iPad or something something. Yeah, like that's the Like
it's I feel like it's kind of nice when you get a real person who
is like just not trying to like spa ammy with stuff for typing something.
So at least at least I feel like you get all the bullshit and then
you get a real thing that'll happen, because I feel worse because then I
feel like I'm wasting a person's time. Yeah, I don't know, Like
every time I've gotten like one or two of those where it's just kind of
like the weird thing, like it never happens when I'm trying to do it.
It always happens when I'm not trying to do it. Uh, but
usually it's for them. I don't usually feel good about it because it is
something that it's never been Like I'm going to kill myself and go to Applebee's.
It's always like you're gonna kill yourself and then go to Abbe's. Yeah
yeah, you know first and then you know, well, you kill yourself,
You're in hell. So what else would there to do but go to
the fucking Applebee's. Uh? Eat shit food, but it's you guys have
some provolone stuff meat paulls that are really it's usually because it's like, is
anybody having trouble with this router? Blah blah blah, And then sometimes I'll
get I think the one I got was like, yeah, email me.
I'm like them, you know, Lynksist or whatever. I was like,
yeah, dude, I can't get this to work. I am Lynxis.
I have a Twitter account. Do you follow PEPSI? I have become sentience
makes she just a router sitting in someone's house, striking an ice cold at
Coca Cola. And also it's at Coca Cola. They don't have coke,
which sucks for them. I bet you don't want to know who's got You
don't want to follow at coke, It's that's bad news. It's hip hop
Sensation wan cocaine. That's when you want us just starts. Yeah, that's
the account you want to troll for free products. RC Coler really has an
account. They got you, right, Greer Beverages. It's such a himself
man, Greer looking here. If you're gonna talk a mess about my beverages,
just don't eat that dim sum restaurant anymoreantage a fish out A reply from
R C Cold to be like, man, nobody drinks enough at RC Cold
of these days. Thank you so much. You know, hey, I'm
in this area. Do you guys know a store where I can find an
ice cold at the old anything that I'll quench my really thirsty you know,
sandy first summer summer thirst? Yeah, man, are you looking it up?
I am, and I'm afraid Royal Crown may not my Crown Royale.
Well yeah, yeah, Crown if you want to talk to if you want
to talk to Crown Royal, I talk to Crown Royal all the time.
Bottles here, I'm gonna start collecting marbles because these bags are so nice.
Crown Royal or if you have, if you if you have, keep on
the Twitter side, iver played. I just want to we's got some nuts
of bolts or something keeping in this bag. This is a nice bag.
I'm keep the contest test this post to like my belt, keeping all my
weed gear in this sweet at Crown Royal bag. If you're on the fifth
floor at the Higher Agency and Clara, I'm a cut person. I keep
my smoke bombs in this crowd or if you want to talk to the Royal
Crown Escorts Service, they they're on Twitter. But so RCI Cola or Crown
Royal Dough from Royal. She's saying, I can register it right now.
I'm sure it's taking it, just may not be an active corporate account.
Oh wait no yeah, Royal Crown Cola is totally on Twitter. Great,
So there you go, ringing endorsement. Sure could go for some Fago.
I'm not gonna look up Fago. Fuck you for that anyway. What were
we talking about? California extremely extreme. I played some Baby pac Man and
it's half video game half pinball. It's game is amazing, fucking crazy.
It's weird because you kind of kind of just like choose to make it a
pinball game whenever you want to. It's like, I fuck around up here
and you can clear out levels and it it's probably you know, there's some
strategy to like whether you're in the video game part or the pinball parts to
the pinball parts to turn on power pellets, like if you go complete to
get power pellets up top. So that explains a lot. Yeah, I
played it at the one time. It's pretty crazy. It's really crazy.
But yeah, there's just like there are just tubes that kind of the bottom
of the maze ors like you go in there and it's like all right,
going down to the pinball table now, and then you just focus down there
instead, and it's just this weird mini pinball table. So it's got like
flippers on the sides and then enjoy stick in the middle. So you're just
constantly like jumping back and forth, not constantly, but with regularity jumping back
and forth. And the it's a bad pac Man game up top also,
which is kind of weird. It's not a great pinball machine is down below.
No, but but I mean like like graphically, like they couldn't get
as many colors into whatever the hardware was that they were using. So like
the ghosts a one color. They don't have eyes. Yeah, it goes
through all one color. They don't have eyes, so there's just like a
black hole where the eye would be. Yeah, it looks kind of weird.
It just looks like some crappy home port of pac Man. It pac
Man for the Tryst, but it's it's a Namco release. No, it's
a Midway. It's because Midway had the rights in the US to do pac
Man stuff for a while. So the baby pac Man, that's like pac
Man and miss pac Man's child. Yeah, but pac Man, but no,
no bad baby pac Man is young pac Man, right, But pac
Man Junior, that's got to be the child of pac Man. I think
Baby pac Man, I think you're you're asking too much. I actually I
wouldn't be surprised if if Junior pac Man was a Namco game and Baby pac
was was midway. I like baby pac better than Junior pac Man. Kind
of it's too hard, like try to keep track of this giant fucking because
it's it's it's pac Man. It's pac Man. Okay, it's pac Man.
It's pac Man. Who is but it's pac Man. Okay, so
it's pac Man. But the maze is bigger than the screen. So when
you start like going to the right of the left, like the screen perspective,
scrolling shittaly to the side to like show you the part of the screen
you can see, and it's easy to find yourself like on an edge where
it's kind of like trying to like jitter back and forth, being like,
oh, you're kind of in this frame, but you're kind of starting to
go to the rights. I'm gonna move a little bit, but then you
go back some So what are you using the move? Okay, your mind?
I mean it's it's pac Man some delicious at r C Cola. I
don't want to drink that. Whenever I'm playing at pac Man at Baby Pack.
I like Crown Royal and Royal Crown mixing together. Get a little something
something Wow, RCCR Credence clear Water. Did they have the can I replace
all my pinball lights with fantastic? They bred that Xenon machine was running.
Yes, Patrick, hadn't seen this this crazy led technology and not you know,
it's just old and busted. You look at that, it's like better
than real it was, I mean because it I mean the way you were
describing me to me, like because it's not the original lights just replaced,
like they're actually putting in like all brand new things and it's just yeah,
really like it's stands out especially like all like this dank dark room that we're
all in to see like this bright and it's next to these other machines which
are you know, well taken care of, but they're just using standard in
candescent bulbs like a Jurassic Park pomball machine. Yeah, so it's like it's
you know, it has that kind of soft glow to it, and you
see Zenon where just the you know, it's got these little LEDD lights for
each one, and it's just that that makes every makes every pinball machine look
like Tron. Yeah, Tron for real. Well, and using Zenon as
an example is it's probably a good because I also had like a there's an
NBA Fast Break machine that also had LEDs and it looked very nice. I
didn't see that, but they had that. That twilight Zone machine, Yeah,
that was constant. Well there was the one that was constantly being worked
on that had led Yeah, it was only working for a couple hours.
Well it's own. Yeah, it's ninety five. So that's like Posts Amusement
Park Road. Oh sure, based on that stuff. No, it's just
based on Yeah, it's Rod Serling's stepping out of a crazy door on the
on the back plate. No, twilight Zone. I never actually got to
play twilight Zone because twilight Zone machines were constantly being used and we're not being
used. They're broken because there's a lot of weird moving parts on those things.
Yeah, which is why I will never buy a Twilight Zone like Medieval
Madness, like all these it's highly intricate, crazy. I mean, it's
it's the problem is that, like the things that I love about, I
realized you boil it down for me too. You know two things that I
need in a pinball machine. I want a lot of ramps. I like
a lot of ramps. And I need easy multi ball. Yeah, because
multi ball is the best part about playing pinball. So the easier it is
for me to get to that state, the happier I am with your pinball
machine. The amazing thing you can do is as an operator is you can
actually make getting a multi ball easier or harder. Like on my earth Shaker
machine. You can set all kinds of stuff to just like it's just ready
to lock balls right out of gates if you want, and then it'll be
way easier to do it. I like that. Yeah, guys, what's
up? I need to know about the Beavers and butthead game. Okay,
so so so they've had this cabinet for again the past three years. Uh
of you know, the unre least Beavis and butthead a Tory prototype. But
the past two years, it has not actually had the Beavis and Butthead game
in it, and one of the ones this year was running a different game.
So so usually usually there two. Usually there's just the one Beavis and
Butthead cabinet that it is not running Beavis and Butthead. This year they had
two cabinets, one not running Beasthead and one totally running Beavis and Butthead.
Beavis Butthead maybe the worst arcade game I have ever personally played. Well,
it's it's it's not a complete game per se. It's the best prototype,
right, I mean, it's you know, they built a cabinet around it
and put it out like for whatever testing purposes, looking location test stuff.
So you know, arguably, yeah, they could have done a lot of
work on it, or they said, man, we need to do too
much work on this, so we're just not gonna put it out. It's
a really crappy beat him up, but it has a really weird look to
it that kind of hard to describe, kind of singular. Well, it's
it's got like two it's got like two D sprites. Yeah, but you're
going down a three D ish hallway. It's like you're going you're going up,
yeah, like like g I Joe. Yeah, but you're not like
locked to the bottom of the screen like Gijo either. You're still walking around
the screen pushing the path forward as any word, or you know, stopping
in an area and walking up and down. But yet so everything is constantly
scaling. Yeah, it's times like it almost looks like video, like not
good video, but at times it has this the something about the way that
the thing animates. I thought just looks like kind of awesome but really shitty.
Oh. Speaking to which before I forget part of my later disc caall
was I now own the LaserDisc for Mad Dog McCree. I threw that in
last night and just watched mad Dog McRee for a while. Wait does it
out of a machine? Yeah, Like you can't play like a bunch of
raw footage like it is just you will just watch like all of these scenes
of Mad Dog McRee happened on your laser disc player. Is fucking It's way
better than playing Mad Dog McCree. Does it pause or something or it's just
no, it just kind of goes from one scene into the next, so
you can just see the whole narrative of bat mad Dog McCree. It's it's
basically like watching the Perfect Game of see all the like weird diversion paths,
like you only watched a couple of chapters of it. Yeah, yeah,
that's a show you like the branches, right, So again I didn't get
deep enough into it to see how that went, but it was sort of
you know, you come into town and then the girl says you don't go
do target practice, so you go out to this field where there's posts.
They got beer bottles on top of them, and you just watch the beer
bottles magically appear and then you hear like the breaking noise as they disappear.
It sort of like goes through that and like guys, and it's like you're
walking down the street and got hops out and then go where falls to the
side and is really shitty old western death there anyway back to Beaus And butthead
as I have to say about Matt Dug McRee, yeah, uh looked like
bad video a weird animation style. Yeah, and a bad game and just
a fucking just an awful, awful, awful game. Every stage is like
five minutes. I beat it, Kat and I played the whole thing and
it took fifteen minutes maybe, so it's about as long as Double Dragon.
The video was was the real actors and stuff as you judge in there making
noises. Yeah, I felt like a bad Simpsons arcade game. Yeah,
but like vertically scrolling and yeah, and you kept all the end bosses are
just like really big fat dudes that are wildly pixelated and you're like, why
am I doing this? Well, yeah, it'll be over the weird sense
of everything scaling as you're moving through the environments, like there's like a five
pixel gap just kind of created in between these art assets or I don't know,
it's I'm not sure why they went that route. I don't get it.
Don't know why. Why didn't you just make a side scrolling beat them
up? They wanted to get something different. I guess pushing the outer limits
because that was that was the Canami's game with the all the beat them ups.
They had that a lot. When when was about I had to come
out, I guess I don't know what. Foine four probably was the holographic
time traveler game. There no what no time travel see him much too.
Brad Muror from Double Fine, she grin no mister Deuce Castle dah no,
mister do no Mortal Kombat. That made me upset. There was an MK
three machine that was broken, yeah Ultimate MK three Yeah yeah, And well
they did have a someone at a custom build new Mortal Kombat. Yeah,
set up then that people and Boone was giddy about it. Was happy to
be autographed. Yeah that's cool. Yeah Yeah. Ed Bood came out.
He seemed like he was according to his Twitter, it seemed like he was
having the best time. I think he was. I think he was really
really enjoying himself. I think, you know, he's just getting to see
a lot of stuff that you don't see. And Ed has, you know,
a personal connection to a lot of that stuff. You know, he
worked on a ton of pinball games and as well as arcade games that were
being shown there. And I think he had said that it had been a
really long time since he had seen a full six player grid set up.
Yeah. Grid always making a big appearance and always pulling in the crowds.
So we played the grid with with him. Yeah, he's really fucking good
at the GRIZ. I did outscore him in one of our matches. Came
in a solid second. I actually had first stolen for me at the last
possible set. He was like kicking everyone's ass and had like a messed up
track ball like that sort of stuff. Like it was just like he was
on a less than perfect machine. Do you think it's still really good ripping
people? You're still really good? Is it one guy who's got the entire
six machines or something you're gonna bring, You're gonna bring hers, I'll bring
mine because it's always the full six. It's got to be one dude just
owns six grid machines. I mean, like, I mean, the last
time I saw a grid set up was like Game Works, and that was
the last place to have any of that stuff. So imagine one of those,
because out of business, six of those go up. Yeah, that's
something where I feel like California Extreme. It's like you just wait every year
for that to break out, your grid set up because like, because where
else are you gonna have an opportunity to set it up, set up your
grid machines and have that many people come play, Yeah, and then actually
have anyone give a shit about your goddamn grid machines. Steve Lynne, the
guy you know who gave it this and got got my key machine was done
when he did his first auction. But how he got into arcade stuff like
he saw a virtual on cabinet, like the full full on thing go for
a buck because basically like no, like this guy just wanted like I don't
want to have this giant monstrosity anymore. So the buck was worth their in
because it just he was out of his life. It's I means, it's
the same logics. Where are you going to put that? The same logical
that applies to like why I got a big box of free rare laser discs
is at some point the space is worth more than the media. And it's
just like yeah, yeah, this big box, this and most of those
movies are available in in you know, much easier. Sure, and I
can probably have I probably have all of California stream on my fucking iPad here,
you know, or majority of it as far as the the extra software
that's being run there. So it's like, you know, I have all
of this physical shit for what is a pretty tiny piece of content. Well,
and there was there was a guy that like on the on the second
day, like just woke up decided he wanted he wanted out and just put
went down and put a bunch of stuff that wasn't for sale for sale,
like in the misspacking machines. Just like it's just like I'm just gonna sell
free and clear. Like the empty truck that happens every year is on Sundays.
Some people are just like, I just don't want to fucking bother with
getting all these machines back into the truck. Drive him down to the warehouse,
get him out of the truck. The warehouse is so packed that I
have to move like half of the ship out to get this ship into it.
Yeah. I never touched any of these machines. I should just yeah,
I should just fucking sell all this stuff. Like obviously what what what?
It seems like what happens? And it's it's so easy to see the
path is okay if you find some machine, for sure, you find Bubble,
you find bust a move for for two hundred bucks, and you're like,
okay, like there's this one machine that I really want. All right,
I love this game. It's got you know, big personal memory for
me. You know, it's just you know, attachment to it, blah
blah blah. So so that's the machine that I want, right, But
in your hunt for that machine, you keep coming upon like it's like,
well, it's it's like a fucking episode of lawn Order where the guys like,
well, I don't have that machine. I haven't seen that in a
while, but I've got one of these for you know, two hundred bucks.
It's like the move wasn't a machine I wanted. It was just the
one that made the most sense, and I settled on it. But it's,
yeah, I could see how in the path to getting to like bubble
Bubble, which is what I would want, or a pact man, or
like a cocktail machine, Like it's like fifty bucks for this, I've got
the truck. Like it seems like that's the path. Is the like the
collector who's like, you know, I love this one machine, and so
that's the one I care about. So I have a warehouse, but then
I have twenty others around it that I don't really give a shit about.
But I've picked up through trades or someone just didn't want it or whatever,
or I thought I was going to pull the monitor out of this and use
it as a spare or blah blah blah, and that's how it's always a
list of like I was going to do this, but did this, it
seems like, and then suddenly they have a warehouse and and they're big enough
where like if like one small thing changes in your life, you suddenly have
no room for yeah something. It's like, well, I used to have
a great house and then I got this other job and I had to move
down here, and I've got a small house. Now I'm paying so much
for this warehouse space, and like I'm never gonna play these again, and
I never played when they were out, yeah, And so then you know,
I feel like it just transfers to somebody else who's life is in a
different spot where it's like, well, now my life is here, and
like I could own too many arcade machines until I need to move. I
haven't turned on any of my machines since Christmas. It's because some some people
were out and hanging out and they like it's it's bitballing, all right,
Sure fifty bucks moved. I feel like I would go for three arcade machines
in my life, Like I think I other than the one that you are
or the one and a half that you already own. Yeah, no,
no, no, like three total, like that's it. Don't ask me
what they I think you were gonna list, like what your three were?
No? No, like like three and like you know, that's it.
I think having a good puzzle game is good. That's why I got mine
was because it was two players, like it's a competitive game like and then
also the fact that I can swap the cards. It's like, you know,
a on a space for any other ones. But like, if I'm
gonna get one, this seems like a good starter to buy a whole new
machine. I can just did anyone see job on Sunday? No? No,
I saw him on Saturday night and he had a wild eyed look to
him. Last last I heard, he may have been on a may have
been on a bed. Yeah, in our interns room. No, I
saw him on Sunday, so he's alive. So I didn't see him at
all on Sunday. That was a little worried. I don't he was partying
with our interns apparently that's what I don't recommend. And there was there was
talks of golden schlagger. I was gonna say, don't try and drink with
Ben, like that's yeah, Like I ran into him, and I could
tell that he had he had had some drinks, but like didn't FaZe him.
Yeah, and he was just like, hey, it's still on top
of things. Yeah, okay good. There was like the four like dudes
around him were faded. There was there was one guy in particular. I
won't I won't call him out, but he was just one and he kept
bragging about, like how much you've been drinking. I was like, here
at that point, man, the point where you're talking about how much you
drank. I had six beers and then we got four shots and then there's
like full on enumeration mode. I don't feel it. I think I'm feeling
it. I get like that sometimes I still get like this. I was
gonna say, though, like like intern bend as you're drinking, partner,
Like that's the worst possible one and one. Yeah you can't as long as
you're not Yeah, you can't punch for punch that guy. That guy's got
ten points of blood. It's got more than you. Yeah, there's there's
two of you. Yeah, inside him, it just mass not even like
it just yeah, you could be sitting on your own shoulders right now.
He sweats out most of the alcohol before he would reach It's like, so
he's so tall he wants eight an entire cow. Yeah, wait a minute,
the long legends ben Yeah, anyway, he's like six eight seven.
Now I'm gonna buy another machine, sixty eight, sixty nine. He's taller,
he's he's getting near seven. I know that's a someday. Someday he'll
be seven feet tall, tall dude, and won't have a real giant.
Yeah that's what you want. Yeah, so forget these arcade machines. I
want to own my real own giant. Was using too in big in our
videos. I'm going the gas giant extreme. Anyway, you find all these
sweet giants. We keep talking about people wanted to have giants, And are
you starting at the warehouse starting to figure out what you wouse full of giant?
I'm sorry, I don't know what to do. They cost so much
to be. I think the the like social acceptable term is big people.
I've seen the dark side of owning too many big people. Yeah, yeah,
we've we've gone down that root. It's dark. It's slippery slope,
slippery slope. But yeah, long we talked about this. The more I'm
feeling like I'm gonna start hitting he Bay, and like I said, it
was you know, I hadn't done it since like last year. And once
you figure out that people are selling stuff on Craiglist, it's hard not to
look when you're just like that was the problem. That was well, that
was what started our post California extreme that people are doing it. Well then
so so then this year I get home Sunday, so California streams still going
on, I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna after you know,
watching Patrick and having his his glorious run with his his bust a move machine.
I'm like, all right, let's go see what's up on on Craigslist,
And like half of those listings are like, yeah, I'm gonna be
at CAx this weekend, so if you if you are here, these are
some of the machines that I have. So it's it's missed connections, man.
Yeah. Yeah, I just want to get that monitor fixed on that
street Fighter machine and do some your minor work to that and then we'll see
what happens. All you want, but that's not all that's gonna happen,
because I'm enough to get him to get that monitor off to buy a whole
another machine. Your Yeah, your desires are now, this is gonna work
out. That's the dark side. I feel like that's the part that you
and I saw of the cannibalism arcade. Cannibalism of the Marquis and the border
art on that thing are so ugly. Yeah, we're gonna swap that out.
Yeah, that's kind of easy. That's that's repros Like that's you don't
necessarily have to cannibalize. Like so much of the stuff is is being like,
you know, people are refurbishing and rebuilding these machines. Yeah, like
I need to buy like a new like like a button set and stuff like,
I mean, I need I need to do a lot of cosmetic work
on my thing and like side art at some point. Yeah, like finding
reprintsive side art and finding remakes of Marquee art for kind of big games.
Aren't aren't that hard to find? It's it's stuff that's bigg and don't you
just get the originals? It's not even sure. Maybe I'll just like turn
it into a primal raids machine on the outside. It just happens to have
a game. This is said. Damn CRT is the is the hardest part
because it's just the thing that just define it or to replace this they're around.
It's I think it's it's just got out. They're expensive. I think
I think they're just I think they're getting harder. People are selling whole cabinets
for two hundred dollars. How much could have how much could a monitor?
But like, but there's the things that then people are buying those two hundred
dollars cabinets just for the monitors. Like like when we bought that women about
that NBAJM machine, there was another guy that's like, yeah, if no
one else picks this up, I'm gonna get it just for the monitor because
that monitor is worth two hundred bucks to me because you have to find one.
No burning Yeah, you know, it's not faded out and they're not
making them anymore. It's just straight up there's there's a finite number of what
happens when they're all arcade quality CRTs out there. There's no solution. Yeah,
I wonder how if if someone if it's possible to hook an LCD up
to it, if that's even like an option. Eventually there was to be
some runway. It may not be easy but there there is a way.
I mean, you could basically just like you know, hook a super gun
up in the middle of that process and with whatever monitor you want up top.
But I'm sure once we reached that point. But that's something that frequently
the version of the arcade people, Arcade purists are just gonna fight as hard
as they can. For last year, there was a joust machine that had
an LCD in it that was kind of an experiment like once you're once you're
out putting to a modern screen, why have a cabinet at all, Like
you've already like sullied the integrity of that experience. Yeah, like you're I
think you're right. I think that the quality of that screen, you know,
is so key to like how those games look like you start showing it
with no no that corner bending you know, you know that that blur,
Yeah, the phosphor glow, like you get none of that stuff, Like
just you all you see is just like the raw output of the board.
The thing they added to Maime over the last couple of months here is like
they've they've had scan lines all along, Yeah, they've they actually are now
using GPUs too. You can bend the corners, like just pincushion it and
you know, desaturate the image in weird ways of you so there will be
solutions. People like Double Impact had a good stuff like that too. Yeah,
fine, don't buy an arcade machine. I actually, I actually really
like the way old games look on LCDs because I actually like seeing two crazy
single picts. I do too, But at that point, like I said,
just skip the footprint of a cabinet. You know, the original controls
I think are part of what's nice about that stuff standing up. Yeah.
Yeah, there's a certain experience to it, like I think that is that
is lost when you sent a couch to the controller and you have achievements and
it just changes. Putting your beer on top of it, I hope it
doesn't fall. Yeah, there was. There were no stickers on the Tavern
machine that can nothing. Can you drink on the shelf for no? No?
I was though, Yeah, I mean like you just like no,
but drink uh the rest of my bud Wiser white and blue around. Yeah.
I just I made sure that Katie was holding because it's like they're not
gonna tell a female to put her beer down. Too excited to see,
like what are they gonna do. So I was just yeah, because you
know it's it's you're you're right around the corner from the hotel bar, which
is just right there, like if you were holding it, they would say
like no, but there weren't like people patrolling like a plus, Like I
was very careful about it too, because like I, you know, you
look at these things like these are people's you know, I didn't go anywhere
near a pimball machine. I didn't, like, I wasn't putting. I
was like, this is these are people's you know, babies and some Yeah,
like I don't want to treat it respects. I mean there was one
pinball machine that someone apparently like brought their hands too hard down on the glass
and the glass all shattered. So like they spend like, you know,
a whole afternoon picking the glass out, and yeah, I mean you can
imagine how that would happened. And but yeah, and there's a lot of
kids there, you know, people that don't necessarily know that you're supposed to
be fragile. So so having the blanket rule of no drinks or food on
the floor makes sense. But it's again, it's a it's an all volunteers
thing, so you only have so much manpower, but it's growing, like
it was busier this year than spending years past. A lot of people on
Twitter, yeah, a lot. It was huge number of giant bomb fans
there. Uh so we think everyone who came up to us and gave us
a show. Everyone was super super kind, very nice. Buget a bunch
of very nice folks there. Although it was weird. Wh'm standing next to
Ed Boone and dude walks up to me like, this is Ed Boom.
It's got made more combat like all of them. I'm just some dude.
I'm just this dude that's talking to Ed Boone. What do you care?
Come on, all right, let's talk about real video games. Vinny,
you didn't go to California Extreme. What did you do? What have you
been playing? My good friends, my fine feathered friend. I played some
more The Witcher one. I played some more Puzzle Agent two. Oh really,
how you liking it? Puzzles? I've heard people saying that the puzzles
are actually easier. I found a lot of recycled kind of puzzles already from
the first one. Yeah, but I'm not too deep into it, so
I finished I made it through the Puzzle Agent one again. I started two.
Great, right, Yeah, a lot of fun. Uh so,
a lot of so having just played that, a lot of the puzzles are
very similar so far, and I'm not too deep into the Puzzle Agent two.
Uh. And I played on my iPads, So how's that going?
It's great. I was thinking about trying I've got on my iPad IV.
Yeah. I bought both of them for my iPad, uh, even though
I had the first one. Right, and all the telltale stuff is really
great. I've heard issues of performance on some of the players and stuff.
Yeah, you get over. But when I'm saying like I could see this
being a game that would actually because of the two D nature of the graphics,
that it would actually you know, perform well. And the way it's
got that kind of like sonar pain when you touch the screen thing it works
out really well. Yeah that makes sense, and all the puzzles seemed to
work on so so that's actually a lot of fun. Uh. And then
I spent the most of my time coming kind of not specifically okay, but
uh I played Bastion. Oh. Super Giant Games is based Bastions. The
Bastion Bastions. The Bastion. Uh So I spent a lot of time playing
that and made it through that. So did I. Yeah, I wish
we could talk about that. As soon as I got home from California stream,
I spent the rest of my waking time planning that the bad get through
a lot of it based on how I saw So that that was really that
was my Saturday, and and most early Sunday was was that. And then
I started playing a little puzzle agent. I would you know, I'd kind
of seen it a little bit here and there. Uh, I came,
I really love the way that game looks. It's it's it's it kind of
takes a little bit to get into. Like for me, I played it,
put it down, came back to it, and then really got into
it. Like once I got the past the pacing, the intentional pacing of
a lot of the scenes, I was like, Okay, yeah, I
see why these shots are way too long, right, it's all intentional time,
like the engine is slow or something. No, there's no animation.
Yeah yeah, okay, it's stillbile is just gonna kind of dot dot dot
dot across the screen. Uh yeah, I don't know. I just I
love the way that that game looks. It's and the and the voice acting
is actually really good. I think the voice acting is great. I think
it's some of Telltale's best. Yeah characterizations. There's there's just yeah, strong,
strong work all around. Total total run time for both of those games,
couple for both well, I've definitely I've only scratched into the first first
or into the second one. But depends how much trouble you're having with a
puzzle, I'm sure, and it definitely it does the the latent thing of
like running up all like you finish a puzzle, or you submit your your
response for your your your solution for a puzzle, and it goes through all
of the stuff until the very last sec of like are you going to get
approved or denied for this? And fuck? So it just lets you build
up that tension as much as possible, like oh did I do it?
Did I do it? Did I do it? Did I do it?
Yeah? But it's a yeah. They're fun games, Yeah, fun games,
and they're stupid cheap and they're quirky. Yeah. I played a little
bit of Aquaria, just the game I bought during the Steam sale. Steam
sale happened Steam sale happened. I think I owned Steam buy everything in the
like the past couple of years. It was really hard for me to find.
I almost bought that it would attachousand dollars only for seventy dollars though for
all of its Yeah, you'd be a fool. Just I almost lost.
It wasn't all of it. It wasn't to buy all of it would be
actually be still okay. So I actually I actually bought some weird stuff on
this team. So I bought Command and Conqueror again. So this is this
is kind of this is kind of one no no Commanded Concker e X again.
Yeah, the Command of conquer I bought the Command of Conquers coming out
next year. I bought us what was up for sale, Commando Concker four,
Tiberian's Son, and Reddler two or was up there. But the expansion
packs were up there, and I didn't own any of the expansion packs.
But you can't play the expansion packs unless you own the Steam version of those
games. So to buy the four dollar expansion pack, I also had to
buy it like three dollars retail. It was the pricing was really weird,
like stuff like Tiberian's Son was more money than four and maybe that makes sense.
I don't know, Uh yeah, yeah, it kind of does.
But whatever, I spent like twelve bucks buying like the last three years of
Command and Conquer or whatever. That was kind of weird. That was probably
the weirdest purchase I made because all those games are sitting on my shelf.
I was literally looking at them being like I physically owned this goddamn CD.
I'm never gonna put this in, probably never gonna play this. I kind
of want to play, all right. At least the Steam versions are like
guaranteed to run. Ye. At least there's there's that of like I don't
have to go and like try doss box this or just whatever they was in
the last three years. This is the original. Yeah, I've no,
no, I've got the Command of Conquer collection on my shelf as well.
But again, it's were those expansions, so you'd actually you'd mentioned that that,
you know, you feel like you've already bought kind of everything on Steam,
where like I feel like we all kind of saw it at this Steam
sale of like they were back to doing like you know, franchise and like
publishers specifically, like all of the two gay games. It's like I kind
of did this the last time this came around, and you've only added like
one or two things to this, so it doesn't really make sense still,
Like the THHQ pack is like, hey, it's awesome. You want Whole
Front nor all right? Well Batman Game of the Year Edition, that's not
the HQ pack. Oh right, the th HP pack there's such good like
you look in there. The game is routinely like seven dollars. Yeah,
which one home Front bat bat Man. That's a great game. Yeah,
that's pretty good. Uh So Aquaria, I played a little bit of that.
I think I'll play a little bit more and maybe we'll take a look
at it this week and some kind of quick look for him. It's like
an underwater super Metroid. But I just I'm not not digging the art style
and in like fifteen twenty minutes I put into it, so well, I
maybe I'll take another look at that. And uh I did buy something else
on this team cell. I can't even remember. It was just one of
those things. It's like I only bought a bit trip Runner, the only
thing I bought the whole time. Yeah, I got that too, man,
it was like Idi. At some point I tried buying stuff I owned
already. There was like King Arthur pack, let's get that done. I
kind of looked. I'm talking to Drew about He's like, what's the King
Arthur thing? And I'm like, I don't know, Like it looks kind
of cool. Let you get it, like you own this already. Been
like oh oh, it's kind of bummed out because now I'm nothing about it.
The closer that game was one just caused too was was selling for five
bucks. That game is good on the PC. Thought about it. But
there's a lot of mods out there for that game. Yeah, I bet
that's really Yeah. I saw I saw like the Superman mods stuff, which
looks kind of fun. But I didn't pull the trigger anything. I got
nothing out of the steam Shute steam sale, so I dodged that bullet about
Terraria and Amnesia before they were on sale, and they immediately went on sale.
Drey is like a two deed Minecraft, right, Okay, it's goal
oriented and you have things to do, so it's actually a game. Yeah,
I got it. Yeah, yeah, closer to an actual game.
Do you find like bones of those are like ruins and bones and stuff in
there. We we did a quick look like it was like castle can make
a giant zombies can lose to make a giant dick out of stone their machine
guns. Dick Stone, Yeah, are the hardest rock known demands recently discovered.
It's rock hard, that's right. Indiana Jones and the dick Stone,
not like this penis that I drew on the napkin. Yeah, left on
this dude's car. Fallast of Fate. Oh, it's a map to the
dick Stone, like the Fallast of Faith, Indiana Jones and the Fallast of
Fate, the legend of the Fallist of Fate. Don't cove any ideas.
That's all I played. That's it. Yeah, I played the Steam Sale.
I was wrapped, wrapped it up. I lost you lost its Steam
Sale too bad? Yeah? Is that over? Did they end it?
Yeah? It's like the wrap up day or something like that. So yeah,
st Patrick, You're just you're just in bust to move land right now.
No, I've been playing a much of Shares of the Damned, which
is great? Is it great? Start playing that? Yeah? Bought it.
Yeah, a couple of weeks ago, like every time I played a
student game, I'm like, I really want to like this more than I
like this, Like I'd rather just watch someone play it, because like student
games have a great style and sent to humor, but the gameplay is just
dog shit yeah, and like and nowhere here is too Like the end you're
fighting like twenty minute battles where you just shaking this and I'm like, what
am I doing? This isn't even funny? Uh yeah, McCamy held up
his side of the bargain, which I was the damn And it's it plays
like R four, like slightly refined, but not like not enough to the
point that it is caught up with like what Gears of War did with what
sport. It still feels like it's it's refined to what so Like I really
not that I'm a big resident evil guy to begin with, but I really
didn't like R four because I still didn't like the controls okay, but Shadows
of the damn it at least feels like like the refinements they did make.
It's an evolution of to where I'm like, Okay, I can I can
enjoy this? Ya gonna be like it is it genuinely enjoyable or is just
adequate. No, No, no, no, I think I think it
is. Well, it goes like, is it good enough to keep you
going? Or are you actually having fun? Like the gun play is the
distinction I'm making is are you having fun just through the act of shooting or
is it just a means to see more of the crazy shit? Yeah,
it would not hold up without the crazy. Yeah, would you play this
game without the student us? No, I'm saying no. But that's also
why also end of the Bar as well, which is what all I was
looking for. I was not looking for like a necessarily terrifically playing game,
but what I wanted was like an all right playing game with all studas wagonist.
And this is really like studed channeling like Clive Barker, like their it's
just weird demonic's sexual perversion all over the place. But and it also is
great because it proves that like juvenile humor can be good if it's well written,
like Duke Duke Forever kind of made me feel like maybe maybe it doesn't
work anymore, Like maybe I'm just past it and it just turns out like
the old Man. Yeah, No, it turns out it was just shitty
writing and and like like weird rape jokes like aren't cool? Uh, but
yeah, and Shot the damn just like really fun to play like rape jokes,
yeah, like the best rape jokes in fact, lots of ghost rape
jokes, okay, uh yeah, And well you know it was translated by
eight four. Uh you know that Mark McDonald, John Riccardi, those guys
so uh definitely like you can you can tell that like the humor that they
were probably attempting to go from the Japanese version. An American person really looked
it over and found a way to make it makes sense. And the voice
acting is also across the board. Great, and the guys Garcia and and
every time he gets to a boss, like the punchline is Garcia fucking Hotspur
and then it just zooms in his face with this giant boner guncas Great.
I didn't think that they could do themselves. With Travis touchdown. I was
like, that's it, best video game you that's it? Yeah, just
close close it up, close up. Shot. Can't make a better video
game character in name than that, but Garcia Hotspur. So I haven't meaning
to get back to Shadows the damn. We did a quick look of it
probably like about the first forty five minutes or something like that. Yeah,
yeah, and it seems awesome, but my worry was that it a lot
of it would get into the whole like, oh, you're getting hurt in
this area, you need to quickly find the goadhead and light up the area,
and that would get really tedious. Like that seems yeah, I mean
it definitely relies a little traveling on that mechanic, but each level is no
longer than fifteen twenty minutes, so, like you, you kind of go
through it, and it also buries it up wildly, like though there is
at one point you go through a sequence where you know, there's sort of
like Papercraft looked at has When you're at the level select that becomes a two
D sized rolling shooter and you're just flying through the air using all of the
same mechanics that you do in the three D game, like shooting these goat
heads for light areas, and you're doing it in this two D world.
It's yeah, again, it's all the crazy enough student with like someone that
like knows competent game design, and I think if student can it's too bad.
At mccamie now has his own you know that was the last project he
was doing with Grasshopp. Right now he's got his own studio game he was
owned by Xenmax. So but yeah, hopefully if if it is a bold
future for student, if he can have people that sort of know what they're
doing and shoot the damn is well worth paying because he's like a designer to
guest star on all of his games. Yeah, he's like a guy that
cut these an ideas guy. He comes in, he like he sprinkles the
little sudo magic. I mean, I love that it's called the stud of
fifty one joint. That's it's an excellent it's an excellent reverentation. Yeah,
that's really funny. And I wonder like what his influence is because like there's
also a creative director that was not Suita, Like I wonder what the hierarchy
is of that, Like if Suda just sort of like Garcia otspur Go.
Yeah right right, like he's purely just he said I want to be a
helicopter and then that was it, yes, and then left. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that game bombed. So if if you if you
are on the fence of like maybe this game, like it's definitely worth forty
dollars, she's probably worths quickly to go. Well, has anybody gotten the
impression that that was a relatively limited run? I saw some message for chatter
saying like maybe they didn't print all that many copies because they weren't so sure
how it was going to do, and then sure enough it didn't sell that
well. It's also just really depressing considering that, like that when he was
doing the a Partners thing all over again, kind of rebooting it like this
is one of those games like the Marching Deal that they were like, you
know, because it's it's very unlikey to comy and and and suited to come
talk about it. At that point, it was a week game too,
like it was a multiplatform week game. Because this game has actually been my
understandings, rebooted a couple of times before it's become the game that it is
now. But yeah, it's it's just a really terrific game. It's really
funny, and it looks gorgeous and not to be the the armchair product manager,
but I will say that Shadows of the Damnes a name. It's a
terrible name. It's just it does not it does not allow that game to
to kind of pop out the way that it like put a subtitle auction like
Shadows of the Damned Storm Rising Unleashed Storm Rising, Unleashed Rising Storm. No,
Storm Rising Unleashed is already a pro Crown Crown Royal Rising Storm, the
Storm Rising Storm Storm. She just Credence Clearwater Revival Presents, all right,
workshop an actual better name for that game. Garcia fucking Hotspur. They just
got Garcia effing Hotspur, the hotspurker Yeah, chadows are the damn the Hotspur
Chronicles. There you go, the Hotspur Conspiracy. Yeah, hot Spurs.
How about Boner Storms, Yeah, yeah, Boner Storms. That's already an
EA partners game with bullet Storm. I'm just Boner I don't know. Can
you put that on the cover. It don't pull a Boner suit. Enjoy
it. It sounds more like a board game than Don't Wake Daddy. How
about this pac Man Ain't gonna work? I like that. Let's go with
it. Halo, how about that'll never work? Madden NFL twelve Okay,
yeah, that's they should have done. It's like, oh, we got
an NFL lockout, so you know, it's just like in the case the
game gets rained out. They just show mash reruns, you know, with
all the football rained out. It's like, here's this horror movie. I
guess I don't know enjoy play it. I will. I bought it already.
Don't let it go in your backlock. It's a good game. I
will try not to. Is the last La Noir case out yet? Yeah,
that one's not out, and b I want to say there's one more.
There were four total, right at least. Well, there's like I'm
riding this razor to thin line here between, like waiting for all the dealcy
to come out and forgetting that game exists and you're gonna wanted to play it.
Yeah, you're gonna have to, yeah, come back up. But
yeah, but it's it's whether or not I'm gonna play it anywhere close to
this voice at this point. I mean, the way that the case is
integrated into the storyline is pretty elegant. I think it's just wait and do
that. Right, there's there. It's like the longer I wait, like
it's gonna be September and there will be games I'm reviewing again. That's true,
August. I want to say that I'm gonna try to play nothing in
August. I want to game three August because I'm I'm there's games coming out
in Aust. I want to say there's something up, but I'll put it
out here right now, so you guys know, August, Yeah, take
some vacation. I'm not gonna play video games on my vacation. Do if
you play anything else. I played some Star Castle, I played, uh,
play Pepper two, play some Pepper two, play some mouse Trap.
That was pretty good. Mouse should let Barker, Buckner and Garcia know,
Hey, here's a master. Yeah you know what. So I saw a
lot of that. I saw a lot of like in fact, one dude
at one point, multiple points actually, like I was talking to someone in
the middle of the island. Guy just like walks up to me and asked
me, like, where's the baby pac Man machine. I'm like, it's
actually you're just right down here on the right. And he walks off,
and I'm like, I'm gonna go follow this dude, because he was so
intense about knowing where this baby pac Man machine was and I kind of want
to play some Baby pac Man. Let's go see what the line is like.
And he was there fucking intensely taking like he had bit his giant DSLR
and he had like the huge lens on it. He was taking just like
chronically, he just exquisite photos of like every tiny element of this cabinet that
he possibly could And then like he like he gets that and he like pulls
out his iPhone and he pulls up some text document. He's like strolling through
it and he spins around to me. He's and he's like, where's the
video pinball machine? Like as she gets down here, just go all the
way down and we'll be on the left. You'll see it. They're right
next to each other. And he runs off to go take a shitload of
photos that I saw dudes who were, uh, this is actually at the
Tron machine. Yeah, did anyone play that? I have played Tron,
but yeah, not not not on this trip. It's a pretty good machine
that that one. In particular, I've played that one years past. Dude
had taped up a crazy microphone onto the fucking speaker grill and was like capturing
game audio through the speaker grill for so so Mike questions, like what are
like I see all these dudes running around these big cameras and like weird recording
devices and set up something. Where are you going? What are you came?
Like? Taking taking cabinet photos makes perfect sense, like that there's not
enough great high res photography of arcade cabinets out there, sure that I agree
with, And especially as these parts get harder and harder to find, it
makes sense that like our like side art and stuff like that, we're gonna
need to start reproducing a lot of this stuff. And they do that,
you know, some extent, but you know it's more and more of that
starts to happen. But to do that, you're gonna need to take that
baby pac Man machine apart and photograph the you know, scan it, yeah,
yeah, or you know, do what you can, yeah, exactly.
But like audio from the game, like there are better slash you know,
quasi legal I guess I should say, ways to get straight up digital
audio out of a lot of arcade machines. So like doing that to a
Tron machine when you could just as easily, I mean, well whatever with
Tron in particular, you could just you know, you could buy an Xbox
by Tron for Xbox. But there's issues of of you know, quality of
emulation, like we we'd see time and time again with emulated old games of
like being right the pitch isn't quite right on this because someone didn't have an
original to compare it too. So like I'm pretty sure maname Tron's good so
so because of me, But I mean because of these inconsistencies, like I
can. That's that's why this is the benefit of recording a lot of the
stuff is you know, to kind of prove if there's bugs and the emulation
to go fix it and sure that. But still it's still bizarre to see
something like, you know, this dude is not there to have fun.
This dude is there to document as many of these machines as he possibly can.
Maybe that's fun for him though, I mean, maybe he's from the
future and that's his mission. Yeah, I think this is kind of the
future for arcade machines and need to bolt these machines together to stop nuclear war
in twenty years, but all the machines will have been purchased by one of
us, and you know, we won't be talking to each other, so
we won't agree to get the machines back together. I need to go back
in time and take pictures of baby pac Man. The only thing I can
see the future. All right, you got a clearance? Go ahead.
Also, where's Ryan Davis? Oh? No, we need to kill him.
That whole fifth floor tobacco. Everything spun out of control. After that,
we were on a course towards utopia. Bad left turn happened. Jaw
forsook us after he was gonna be our future president, but then he got
busted on this pot Wrath kept talking about Dick Stones. Dick Stones, Brad
Shoemaker. How's it going, It's going pretty well. It's up with video
games, video games, anything, I understand. We're here to talk about
him. How's the StarCraft going? That's oh? I played with I guess.
I don't know if you guys know who these people are, but probably
not. I played with most Tacular. He's the guy who commentates casts all
of the community tournaments. Uh. And I actually also played with the Giant
Yes, and he's a pretty pretty good accomplished caster of StarCraft and also good
at the game. Uh. And another friend of his, Cryptic, And
also that the Moorn guy, who is like semi pro and is in the
top two hundred and America. I played with him yesterday that I was nervous.
I was nervous on the team with that guy. Well, it didn't
really matter because he fucking carried us every game. The guy's fucking good sort
of just like we're gonna march to victory every time. Let me reiterate,
he has one of the two hundred best UH StarCraft two players on the continent
of North America. I means there are one hundred and ninety nine people out
there just to take you. At last I saw he was like number forty
or something. I don't know. That may have changed. What do you
do in a situation where you were just getting carried? Like what what is
you just work? Do you just work on the economy? And those guys
have better economies than me and are macrowing better? And our baby give you
like tasks like go build Oh, I mean, you know a little bit
here and there, you know, like I'm making an observer. I saw
I saw that the Vikings. I saw that. Actually I saw that one
guy was sending like eight banshees around the left because I had made an observer
and send it over and I contributed that piece of information. Thank you,
Intel. And then you got captured and they held you. Franto made a
lot of vikings, So I made a lot of blink Stalkers at one point.
I mean that sounds kind of desperate. Help sound. No, I'm
just saying. I'm just saying it doesn't really matter how well I played.
And you have people like that on your team there, you know, people
get pretty good at that game anyway. Uh, anything else also has mentioned?
Uh? I also, I too played through finished Bastion. Can we
speak about Missusplosion Man. We can't write yes, because we can't talk about
baston even though I wish we could beginning of the summer arcade. Actually,
don't think it's true. No, that's not Misplosion fashion, that's your your
Monday video was wrong. I thought it was now I didn't know. I
saw the comments on video idiot, which is what all the comments say.
But yeah, in that case, they're there. It's founded. Displosion Man
is a lot like Explosion Man. She's got a bone. He has already
know the answer to that question. Don't even ask it. Uh, mechanically
not much. Explode pretty much exactly the same way. I mean that game
works the same. Yeah, it's got roughly the same number of levels.
The secret Yes, yes, all right, they definitely dressed it up a
lot, which going into it, I was all four. I was like,
dude, this looks like the Super Mario World to Splosion Man's like Super
Mario Brothers. You know, it's got it's got a world map, it's
got like you said, secret exists that lead to hidden levels. There's an
achievement for finding the star Road that sounds awesome. I don't know what it
is yet. I haven't found it, but I don't know. That game
is not really doing it for me the way the first one did as much.
Is it funny? Like its kind of funny cantering a lot of videos,
it's weird, like what they make video game? So it's weird.
What did they What do they make before Splosion Man? No, before Splosion
Man, the first one, the mall was there. Yeah, okay,
so the ending of Splosion Man was kind of like the watershed moment for those
guys, right, remember that ending? Yeah? Yeah, rand was the
videos, the random ass video that just broke in and like, didn't did
they come out at some point and say like, we have like two days
left and we just have to make an ending? Yeah, drink three.
We were talking to them. It was just like a panicked like, fuck,
we have to make an ending, right right, Like ran out of
money, stn't need an ending. So I feel like it's come full purple
now where like that's kind of what they're about. Yeah, as a developer,
Well, that's the thing with with Comic Jumper, Like Comic Jumper was
not an amazing game, right, but the use of FMV was what saved
it, uh and and worked really well for it. But I don't know
that that's something that they can totally just make every game like that, like
a game that's so hot, but the video is really funny because at some
point it's like, well I could just watch all the video on YouTube,
and I mean, this game's okay. It's it plays exactly like Splosion.
Man. It's got a few different mechanics. So there's like trampolines, Uh,
there's grind rails, right, there's a few parts where you splode like
into the background and do some stuff and then splode back out. That looks
kind of cool. I definitely saw, you know. I just I've only
played like the first three levels or something like that, and it definitely seemed
like it was not fucking around on the difficulty like it's not started out hard.
It is harder. It's definitely hard. I mean the first game was
harder. Fu Yeah, but I felt like it was like, well,
that's true because I mean you never played that game before. You had to
get used to work like this time. This time, they if they go
that you have played some splish man. I just feel like a lot of
not all the level design, but some of the level design is kind of
sloppy compared to the first game. The first game felt really tight to me,
Like it felt like as long as you were hitting your cues, you
know, as long as you were exploding on top of the little barrels and
all that stuff, like you were gonna make it to the end by timing
all that stuff right. It feels like there are a lot of cases in
this one where they're like camera angles are off or like weird things are like
they have so the game looks a lot better, and they've got a lot
more stuff going on, like the fourth round and like the little explosion effects
and stuff like that. Best stuff actually gets in the way of just seeing
where you are from time to time. Lots of weird little stuff like that.
I feel like it just doesn't play us smoothly. Yeah, in a
lot of cases. But there's a ton of video in there. Great,
both those Beard videos, Yes, yes, great, both of which will
also apparently appear in Gunstringer. Excellent. I hope there's a new one unless
they shoot new ones. But when the versions of Gunstringer they've been showing have
the those Beard videos in them, that new one is pretty good. Yeah,
she's got a weird pension for spouting nineties pop lyrics. Constantly got that
constill with few levels I played there was definitely so weird. Yep, yep,
he's just a girl in the world. I guess, Yeah, I'm
with you. Yeah, and I'm trying to pay in Vogue, Yes,
and Vogue. I was trying to think of like the most or Yep,
that one's in there, all the Cowboys gone, that one's in there.
Yep, some Madonna, like early nineties Madonna. It just seems like the
logical counter to the Arnold Schwarzenegger. But then there's also still that oh really
okay, oh man, the quick look was a total recall. Very first
level is just straight up you guys, like the Predator or what because we
got that. I love the Predator. Then awesome, there is a great
total recall scene, great in keeping with traditions. Yeah, yeah, I
like they have those things. Yeah, like all this stuff around their game
play, it seems awesome, but it was it was definitely That was the
thing with Comic Chumper. It was like a lot of stuff around Comic Chumper
was incredible. But the act will you know, running and shooting and stuff
like that, you know, and the part where the end boss of that
game was just the end boss from Splosion Man, right, it was just
it was just weird. Yeah, So is there an interesting studio, like
I mean, like just yeah, I wonder what their process is in terms
of like how that stuff gets felt out, because I think part of the
sloppiness is just a result of like, this is a weird idea, run
with it, yeah, you know, and then sometimes it works, like
with Comic Jumper it didn't really work. Explosion Man, it did work Misplosion
Man. Is them trying to do that over but it doesn't like I'm not
sure what like lessons they necessarily learned from the first one as much this is
just more Explosion right, It doesn't it doesn't feel like they play tested this
very hard, which I'm not sure do Like they pumped out games so fast,
just like if you had had if you sat maybe like two dozen people
down in front of this level and had them all go through it, and
it kind of observed how they approached it, Like maybe you would have seen
some of these scenes showing and you could have smooth that stuff out a little
bit. Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. I'm interested to play some
more of that. Yeah, for sure playing because I'm ready for a game
to just like destroy my favor Difficult, it's not. It's not hard in
the way the Super Mean Boy is hard, which is kind of what is
sticking to my craw with this game. Like Super Me Boy, I've always
felt tough but fair, you know, sure, like you were the one,
you were the one that you have such exactly and you could say that
about the First Splosion Man to an extent. Yeah, for the most part,
there's a lot of it. There's a lot of just trial and error
and memorizing these levels to get through them. They were like there are cases
where you kind of have to die to see how it works and get through
it the second time or the third time or whatever. So so does it
still have the same Penchantford like you know, twenty thirty second like checkpoint well
just yeah, just like like forward movement sections. So this is what frustrated
me in the original Splosion Man, was you You'd go through these sections where
it's like, okay, if you miss any one of these, all the
absolutely and it's like it's a fairly long stretch between between checkpoints, and oh
great, I have to go totally still there and redo all these early parts
that aren't the part that I fucked up, right to get to the part
that I fucked up. And I almost wondered at some point, I was
like, is it is a problem with me? Like did I get lower
at the stuff in the last two years? But I mean again, you
know I played through Me Boy and finished it, Like what was that eight
months ago? Done your time? Well yeah, I mean the point is,
you know, I can still deal with this stuff on some level,
but this is just a lot of stuff about this is rubbing me the wrong
way. Like the character is so sluggish. Still. Yeah, Like I
granted they like they spent a lot of time designing the first game, you
know, like they put all the work in to make it work with those
mechanics and stuff. I guess they can't just like start giving you more air
control out of nowhere without breaking the way all the stuff works together. But
like it just again, after playing stuff like me Boy, it just feels
frustrating. It feels like you're fighting the character to get where you want to
go from time after you play a game that nailed it so perfectly, it's
it's really hard to go back to games that are trying to emulate that sort
of precision and just a little bit off the mark. Ye, but no,
maybe you know what you know who I don't feel envious for is the
fucking super meat boy guys, because you know it's you know, it's like
with any medium, like, yeah, you have all the time in the
world and all of your freshest and best idea is to fucking knock it out
of the park on your first game. All right, what are you gonna
do on your second game? You've got eighteen months go? Uh. Edmund's
kind of a side mill he's doing. I forget that something of Isaac's some
crazy, crazy collaboration with like a couple other yeah yeah he he, I
mean, like, yeah, he has that side project and then h Tyler
Gable, I think, is the the other guy the Team Meet. He
is working on a game called Closure that was in the IGF a couple of
years ago that comes out later this year. So they do side stuff.
But they also do have a new game, a new Team Meet game that
is not a sequel. They have no interest in doing anything with Super me
Boy again. And uh yeah, I mean it's apparently decently far along they
were. They were they almost killed themselves at the end of Super meat Boy
trying to finish that because they put so much into it. Yeah. Well,
yeah, not not to say that the development process of Super meat Boy
was at all easy. I'm just saying that, you know, it's they
made of money. I think they're in a good place. I think they
can breathe. It's it's smart of them to try and differentiate, also to
go and get whatever weird yayas they might have out inside projects. Yeah,
apparently they made more way more money on the Steam version than XBLA, yes,
which, yeah, sure it was surprising at first me. But I
wonder if they I wonder if that biases them towards the PC for their development.
From your on, well, I bet the I mean in some extent,
wouldn't you say that, like the PC version benefited from whatever QA it
had to go through on the Xbox that they had to pay for. Maybe,
I mean it was it was pretty They probably made a lot more money
on it because there weren't as many costs that there are not as much money
going out to other people other than Valve. Yeah, I guess so.
I mean that game was not sound when it came out on the PC,
if that's what you mean. Like basically, yea, they do a lot
of patch patch it very quickly when the game came out on on Steam,
but then they also added a insane level of value. There's patches totally in
addition to fixing fucked up stuff. It's the version to get absolutely if you're
going to go gold on. But it's a mispelasure man has credit as ten
bucks. It's pretty low barrier to entry. Uh. And there's a lot
of funny shit in there. I mean, you know, like all the
videos to buy and stuff like that. It's kind of the it's it's the
it's the question of what you're coming to splod or to misplosion man. Although
Comic Jumper probably was not the hardest game ever made, right, It wasn't.
It wasn't. I did not find it at all engaging to play.
You're just going was It was a tough game to review because there were a
lot of things I totally loved about Comic Jumper, but like playing it was
just kind of like it's it's okay, you know, I didn't hate it,
but it was it was super repettive. Yeah, Like the gameplay itself
wasn't like the Strong Suit, you know, it was like all their other
stuff that that maybe fall in love with a lot of things about that game.
Just go finish the moll at some point, like the mall I tried
to play if you played in perspective there is the first game. Yeah,
yeah, you have to come. I was playing it then it wasn't.
I went back and I went back and played it after I played Splosion,
Man, I was like, oh, I want I want to check that
out. And you have to play with you you have to play with a
certain perspective otherwise. Yeah, it's like it was an IGF game. You
have to be willing to make some concessions going into it. It's like,
okay, yeah, these guys have never made a game before, but then
again, at least not seeing what these guys make games before, just not
maybe as as a company. I don't know, but I mean, you
know, seeing what some other indie studios are doing for their first games.
It's now we're just going to play as a curiosity. They just to enjoy
it. It's so far removed from what they're up to. Now's become their
thing. They have a traumatic like they have a style that's actually like kind
of a really cool thing about them is that they have developed a style that
goes across all their games. I just so they don't go to there's a
really easy way to rely on that a little too has long as it leads
up to them just actually making an FMV, this will be fine. Are
they the ones to do night Trap? I think I think they're the only
ones really dabbling, and they certainly have right now. It's been brought up
repeatedly and heavily to the Double Fine guys and to Too. Yeah, definitely
brought up to them. We're telling anyone who will listen, yeah, that
they should make us Sega talked to Sega about at some point it wasn't I
don't know entirely negative. Yeah, yeah, I guess I guess you could
do that. That's one way you could go. All right, text that
guy, see if you can talk him down on the rights a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, fuck it, we'll just make it. See if
we can get nitrop for two hundred bucks. Maybe we can trade a Bubble
Bubbles cabinet for the night trip with your bust Move cabinet for the good for
the rights, we'll film. We'll film the Night Trap sequial in your apartment.
Yeah, that'll be the trade off. Who's who's in the data playto
role? I'll figure something out. Yeah, CGN Plato Alice, we'll use
the Yeah, how'd that go that good? Huh? Yeah, I'm kind
of glad I didn't buy that game, No talk about it. I never
got over the camera stuff in the combat. Just always bothered you always bothers.
Yeah, I just didn't. I still want to play for the art.
Yeah, that's great. It's it's what to play it for is the
art? Like like I felt like the platforming stuff is dark, man,
the game is dark. It's darker in the very end, is so crazy
dark. I thought Fear Too is dark? Nope, fu that it's darker
this is way darker. Is there any kind of like ghost sexual assault?
The ghost not ghosts baby, but sexual assault. Well, not want to
talk about this anymore anyway. The camera just in the combat was driving me
bananas at the end, just a lot of just like you're playing the PC
version, PC version, what they get with the game, gain control pad.
I'm shirt it works normally as it should. I don't know. I
just didn't bout dark, but it does get dark. I put that game.
I put that game down. I was like, I don't feel good.
You go hug my wife. I don't think. I don't want to
hug anybody. I don't want to touch anybody. Affn't want to touch me.
I didn't want anybody to know I finish this. It's kind of want
to turn it off and oh yeah, it's good stuff and it works because
they commit to it. Yeah, they And that's you know, that's something
I'm talking back to the student fifty one thing like I had to wonder because
there's someone else's the creative director of uh Alice Madness returns an American McGhee game.
Well, at some point, running an independent studio like that, a
lot of your job is running the studio. Sure, so I was.
It's it's a question of like what did America, Like, what was American
McGee's input on right, right, there's just points in that game where I'm
like, I think I know what you're trying to tell me, but I
don't want to believe what you're trying to tell me. Nope, that's exactly
what. It's like, you really are just really what you want to tell
me. It's like, yeah, I want to tell you. I'm just
gonna show you again. Now we're just gonna cut to the quick. Just
here it here, it is. Oh, this has sold me in the
game way more than anything else could have possibly done. It's just the it's
the constant refrain of this game. It's just like six hours too long.
That keeps putting me off. Yeah, he's also to Softie for the stuff.
But it's it's it is definitely fucking it is grim it is I'm in
Yeah, and yeah, that's it's that issue. Maintains of each each area
is about an hour longer than it ought be. Yeah, it was for
me. It just got down to that that that damn camera during the combat,
I just it would always be in the wrong spot. And I would
always just be stuck behind the dude or a guy's off I'm just shooting the
gun off screen, hoping I'm trying to hit a guy because the because I'm
locked on in the cameras, it's in a weird place. Yeah, it
happened. Maybe there's some difference in because I feel like I could move I
can't recall at this point, but I feel like I could move the camp
to the camera around while I was locked on dark. Yeah, Patrick's talking
about some news. What what do you feel? What do you want to
That's what's I don't know. Hey, what's up? We went to that
DA thing? Yeah, that's right where they were. Yeah, talk to
me about burnout crash dude. Yeah, it's cool. Burnout crash dude.
It's cool. People need to calm down, it's cool. Okay. Yeah,
everyone losing their minds as though we hadn't discussed this when they initially released
all this information. Yeah, back in May through the SRB where they said
it was top down. There's anything to get worked up about. It seems
like it's the connect control, which is optional. So again, how are
the lobster monsters? Did not see any lobster monsters. This is the part
I'm upset about. Yeah, so now I'm gonna be angry about they're not
talking about that. I mean they have basically, I mean they've basically taken
the core concepts of the crash mode from the Burnout series, from Revenge,
the last one that had to crash. Yeah, like two, three,
and four all had some semblance of a of a crash mode, and uh,
you know, the things that you expect to be there are present,
Like you crash and like they're you know, traffic patterns. You crash into
something to start the crash. Then you have crash breakers and aftertouch yeah,
and you're you're basically trying to do as much damage as possible. The difference
is it's it's all top down now. Uh. And you basically, like
your crash breaker meter fills up like every like probably like five to ten seconds
or something like that, so you can kind of just keep setting it off
over and over again. Uh. And and you know continually after touching around
this area to blow as many cars. You can also buildings. You can
do damage to buildings now too. They've thrown in some kind of like like
game showy like they try to describe it as like a cross between like game
shows and pinball and burnout. I guess, I don't know. So you'll
run into situations where like a pizza delivery truck will will crawl drive across the
screen and you'll get like warning when it's gonna happen, and if you can
blow up that delivery truck, the like the Pizza of Fortune appears and it
spins and you get like additional additional features going on in there to you know,
change like score, modify or other things in the level. And then
there are some cars that drive on that you can't blow up or shouldn't,
and you get a bonus if you can. You know, an ambulance can
drive through the screen without you blowing it up, And it's all kind of
takes place like on a screen, like you kind of drive up to the
crash junction and then from there it doesn't really scroll too much. You're just
kind of going around the screen crashing as much stuff as you can before time
expires. And it's very like kind of basic downloadable game, Like you could
see this working really well on say some sort of mobile device, if they
were to announce it for some sort of mobile device in the relatively near future,
like an iPad, like an iPad maybe SIMI like something similar, like
kind of like the same feature sit as an iPad, But I don't know
if an iPad one could really handle it. You know, it's graphically it
looks pretty nice. So who can say, only on an iPad two?
Maybe? Who can say? Who can say? So, what's the connect
stuff? Optional connect stuff? Like? So the connect stuff is like you
you drive with your hands in front of you connect joy ride like I got
a fake stereo wheel. Yay. It's not a good start. Then when
you start the crash, you jump to do the crash breaker to get your
car up in the air, and then you kind of step around to do
the aftertouch. Uh. And it was not the easiest thing to wrap your
mind around, uh, like moving the car around. I was having a
little trouble doing that. Was there also some leaning involved, and it's more
stepping than leaning, And I think that was my problem was I was trying
to lean because that felt more natural, but apparently it's a step. I
didn't think anything about it looked natural, it didn't actually feel terrible. I'm
not saying that, but I'm not saying the implementation is bad, but like,
what's the reason for it being there? It just does not seem appropriate
for that kind of game. I don't know. It's again it's optional,
so we can't if I it's just fucking spitball here. It's the Criterion guys
using an ex hues to like experiment with more connect shit. Yeah. Probably.
I was like, all right, let's see what happens with this.
I don't know. Maybe it'll be in the next because this is not if
we get Criterion's working on right. Also, the other thing we learned there
is that this is not the only thing Criterion's working on. You know that,
But what is Monolith working on? I think I can stay with some
certainty that is not Black Too. You're saying some certainty. You can't say
with absolute certainty. We spoke, he may be willing to speak, we
have, we haven't. We have an interview with with Alex Ward up on
the site as part of our EA event coverage where we talk about the game,
but talking to him separately about Black Too, and he's like, no,
we're not fucking no, it's not Black Too. So nice to see
Alex Ward out again. Yeah, I haven't seen seen him in years.
Yeah, yeah, to the point where you're like, he's still a criterion,
he's still going on. He said he was in jail. I don't
know. I don't know if I buy that. So maybe there is black
tooth because I don't know if I buy a story about being in jail.
Maybe that's what it's based on. Yeah, you just dropped hints the whole
time, So black too. You brick out of jail, right, and
there's a guy and a barrel. You're you want to shoot the guy,
but trust me, shoot the barrel. Yeah. So they're working on another
driving game. Uh, and you know, my gut tells me it's probably
the next need for speed to happen after the run, because you know,
Hot Pursuit did so well. But I sure would like it if it was
another burnout game. I'd like to see them doing burnout. I also would
not be surprised to see that finally happened, or just call it burnout put
the little you know, like call it that for one year, like the
Shift burnout, and then it just became shift too with the little need for
speed and on the box to let you know, like, hey, it's
still that that so maybe they do that for one year and then go back
to just calling it Burnout. I wonder if, like the success of this
of this down Little Will game will have some sway on the the amount of
burnout versus need for speedness of the next big criteria. I think I actually,
probably, like most rather see them just make a game called Burnout versus
Need for Speed, like Burnout Cross Speed. It's just like the B Team
Van and then like a Selica. So it's got all the non licensed stuff.
It's yeah yeah, and those cars can blow up, but you cannot
blows yeah. I don't know, different ball game there. Yeah. So
I think that game seems all right, you know, it's it's a it's
a generally inoffensive downloadable thing that actually feels enough like even playing a Connect I
could, I could still it's still felt enough like the Burnout crash mode that
I'm sure with a pad it's probably totally fun. Oh so they were only
showing it with a Connect. They let me choose, and I was just
like, you know what, I want to know? Yeah, I want
to know, like you're you're showing it like this, let me see what's
up with this? And that's what that's what ot. Yeah, there's some
stuff, some other stuff. We played Age two deals, so you're coming
out. Yeah, that's that's coming out at the end of the month.
Trailer for that. But it was gonna weird because they were hype it up
that there was gonna be some stuff there and they're just really was I don't
know that there was a hype or expect Well, there was expectation because expects
big enough because they have enough stuff there before. Yes, like every year
there's something that's part. It's usually were they brought sud and it usually sort
of their B level stuff. Doesn't that make sense? For E three,
like we were like, you know, is Ted Price gonna come out and
talk? I expected some overstart thing. I've been hearing rumors about Syndicate.
Syndicate was runce. Also there are also some rumors about Crisis one console.
Yeah, some rating stuff. Yes, some people were talking like that might
be there. But yeah, like the Star Wars guys reasonly got a new
flux of cash and E eight for this project readline which is Syndicate and yeah,
so maybe maybe that's what pushed it out of it. So were there
little kids on stage? No, there were dogs. No, there was
one on the lawn on their their big field they had they were throwing frisbees
of dogs. It was it was a weird. It was like no helicopters,
but yeah, it's like and we got a special treat for you out
on the there was the great Lawn. Is that what they call it?
Something like that, Yeah, a special treat. We go out there and
it's like some docs and chasing frisbees like stars frisbee's dogs. I'm like,
what how many people in mind? Keep in mind in years past this has
been like like a helicopter bearing NFL players and yeah, there's something crazy this
This event sounded like just we have the time slot. We can't. It
was weird event we have it. It was a weird shift and focus.
I mean, like, you guys love to see a fifteen minute debo of
Scramble for iPad playing. Facebook version of that presentation was mobile and social games,
which is, you know, sports always say that stuffs important. It
is. I mean, it's important. It is you know, we make
a lot of money off that stuff. Yeah, it's just sort of weird,
which this is, you know, sense of the an enthusiast press events.
It was that stuff is always there, so if you want to like
come check it out, Like Battlefield three was there, and we can't talk
about what we saw of that. But but it was not part of the
presentation. You're right, and it was almosch is weird. I almost got
the impression that was like, well, we got the space, let's put
the game. Let's put the big game here. How about we got to
build of it. We just put it out, all right, you've got
big signs. Let's say pre apha code that we can put on all the
chaosks. I do great, Let's do it just so happens. Yeah,
and then and then we can't talk about that for another couple of weeks,
which specific in specifics, which is just I am personally excited. We played
that game at E three, y'all. I'm excited for for bren Out Crash.
I don't care what what other people say. Well, I do love
that mode. I always love that mode. It was always bummed that it,
you know, got kind of you know, I understood why it disappeared,
got disappeared out of out of Paradise, out of the open world format,
But gosh darn it, it's a puzzle game. Yeah, it turned
blowing cars up into a puzzle game. That's that hits every part of my
brain. Is even more that it's abstract about too, like a pure puzzle
game. There's d that's great, yeah, because the driving isn't really necessary.
Yeah, the driving is always kind of irrelevant to that mode. So
but it has like the burnout cars and like you still pick a car.
Yeah, and you know they have the different ratings, like it has the
class, it has the B Team van and for exactly that matters. It
had like it had like some kind of a cartoony. It was very colorful,
yeah, very break game. And like one of the sections is called
Roswell, So imagine that's where the UFOs will be, and there'll probably some
section near the end of the game with some sort of lobsters in town.
You think that'll be the level and the lobsters. So I know, there's
Seacrests and that's like Miambi Beach, and then there's Roswell, okay, and
then there are two others. At least, it sounds like an old Midway
game. You know what weird me out more than anything was how much that
game sounds like a slot machine Yeah, like the sound of just kind of
like like constantly some some more stuff, some of sounds that can't be approximated
with a human voice, but but like you hear it like that. That's
exactly who not. Yeah, there you go. This is getting like a
Winslow on the phone fell like being on the floor of casino here in that
game. Yes, it was very evocative. Was everyone's smoking inside the campus?
It was an ashtray. They're British man, it's not allowed to say
Criterion guys, don't go fuck all right, Patrick's talk about some news.
Let's talk about Theatrhythm Theater Rhythm, Theatrism, Theater the Trism, Last Final
Fantasy, that weird rhythm game. Yeah, that weird rhythm game, Final
Fantasy Rhythm Game, Final Fantasy Rhythm Game, Theater Rhythm. It was announced
last week. More details came out this week. Characters from Final Fantasies one
through thirteen? Yes, what was my favorite Final Fantasy game? Which ones
are they missing? The ones from Final Fantasy two are my favorite because it's
just it's just main games. They've or at least they've said that. Characters
from one through thirteen Crystal Chronicles. Yeah, I guess, I guess you
know what about he should be right? Yeah, plays the basic I can
confirmed dance, I can, I can either confirm nor not he is dance
the KEFCA content. It's a rhythm game. Rhythm, a bunch of them.
The rhythm. Well, so it's it's whatever, it's it's all of
these. It's all of the Final Fantasy soundtrack. Bullshit that you've been imparting
from JAM Japan for way too much money over the years. They're taking your
favorite song. You got that dance remix of one week, Get Angel is
in there, confirm with more of I'm gonna guess not. We gotta do
dance remixes. That shit a rhythm game, and it's just the just like
no here, Well that's where there are enough dance remixes of those songs out
there already. Even Yeah, that's why it's called the rhythm because they're going
for the theatrical element of it is all right, it's based on the Final
Fantasy movie. Yeah, you spirits within. We were excited about this than
any other Final Fantasy game the last five years. I thought everyone of the
trailers for verses thirteen looked pretty good. Everyone's got crazy. It's never gonna
come out of a rhythm games. Everyone's got everyone's got crazy cheeby versions in
the game. And it's like Cloud and Lightning are in there, plus I
don't know other other dudes. He goes there, Chokabo in it is their
airship level, and then see it is like hold on spinning on his head.
Hold on, let me look at the two screenshots that have been released
for this so far. He wearing goggles. He'd be wearing goggles. That's
the one. I'm talking about, my Maneles. Yeah, I believe.
I believe he'll be in there. The weird the weird thing is to consider
that they'll have to put characters from Final Fantasy eleven in there, which I
don't know what the import your character. I don't even know what that means.
Import your character from Final Fantasy eleven. I don't know. Well,
maybe they just put the best. Yeah, put like some style, you
know, some style is all thirteen main entries in the Final Fantasy series will
be represented. Six or busts. Well, that'll be in there. I
don't know. Wait, okay, fine, buck you guys, let's talk
about Trenched. No. I want to I want to hear more about it?
What are you doing it? You play it's a bunch of rhythm games?
What does that mean? A Square Annis, Square Enix, what does
that mean? We're not gonna tell you yet because we're fucking crazy and out
of our minds and totally Japanese. Put summon Baha mud and then it gets
the fuck down? Is it like rhythm tangku style anything? No? Who
are you talking to? No, it's not they're not yet. No.
Well all all they've said is that they've released two screenshots, and both of
those have what appeared to be different types of rhythm games in them. So
you play rhythm games to fight battles, that's what I understand. You can
you can you can extrapolate what that actually means to the boy addition, and
it looks like old sixteen bit like, you know, sprites on one side
fighting some more sprites on the other side. One of the screen shots looks
like looks like that. The other screen shot looks nothing like that. So
it's even even like what the framing device is gonna be like. It's hard
to say because Square doesn't need to give you these details when they say,
you know, we're making a fucking Final Fantasy Rhythm game. That's enough for
you to know that you don't want to play again. Yeah, you're either
in or you're out on that. That information is all you fucking need to
make that purchasing decision. All everything else that what songs are included, that's
something to bitch about on a forum somewhere. That is not that is no
bearing on on a purchasing choice over under on that name surviving to this market.
Theater Rhythm. Yeah, I guarantee you think they have such crazyness,
like what do the decidia they have change? They did? They renamed god?
What did they renamed Kingdom Hearts twenty four over thirty five? Yeah?
You're right, Yeah, they're literally like they're not doing any focused testing.
It was a Too thirteen or whatever got renamed to something else. I forget,
something else, far more memorable. It was less memorable but also blessed
insane. Yeah. I think they're like naming conventions. That's what people are
looking for, the Final Fantasy franchise, less insane, trenched, Yeah,
real, Unfortunately a trench for them game. There may have to be for
them to get released in Europe that that may be salute in time to the
beat. Yeah, but yeah, basically, there is a board game over
in Europe called Trench. So so we talked about the basics of this last
week of Hey, dude has this board game name trade called Trench, and
he has covered his bases as far as copyrights go throughout Europe. Someone didn't
check this or don't know what happened on the back end. Only know is
we got up to the date and they did not. Microsoft did not have
the rights to put that game out and then Europe under that under that name.
Yes. The new wrinkle is that the guy who owns this uh is
now saying he wants to make a game based on his board game Trench,
right, and it seems like it seems it's a game of it's a game
of chicken between Microsoft and this guy to see if he can get a higher
buyout. I'm sure this guy has really no intention of producing a Trench game
secured the electronic game version sure, yeah, yeah, like his trademark.
It just someone didn't check that or didn't or it waited too long before the
game got this closed. So yeah, I mean devil find is either faced
with Microsoft paying out this guy, which now that price I get is going
up more and more, or like every time we say the word Trench or
the every second we talk about this story, the price goes up a little
bit. No, yeah, I mean that's absolutely true. And and so
basically now they're faced with like redoing the assets, renaming the game, which
at this point is probably cheaper, and they'll just rerelease the game, you
know, three or four onths from now. It we just won't be called
Trenched. Yeah, so it'd be a limited edition for your up accounts,
you can own both. It seems it seems downloads don't work. It seems
I don't know, maybe this guy knows the position that he's in better than
than we do, but it seems it does seem like it's dangerous game.
He set himself up to getting nothing. Yeah, because at the point where
you are publicly, you know, giving statements to euro Game or other outlets
saying like, yeah, now I'm making a game. I mean, I
get his why he's doing it, but I think Mike might at this point
just walk away and yeah, no, we're not gonna pay you anything.
And because they look at how much it's gonna cost do the asset stuff,
and it's probably. I mean, I don't know, but it seems like
it's probably getting cheaper by the day to just do it over. Yeah,
we don't have the title screen. We don't have that much of an investment
in the name of this game. So yeah, it's the first one.
It's like we're already knee deep in trenched spinoffs and rhythm games. Yeah,
and then and then once and then once they you know, redo it,
you know, possibly if they do a second one, like they just negotiate
with the guy after the value of the after this is all blown over.
Yeah, So too bad for those guys though, because that game secesh're doing
with the law for them one nice if they can it can't come out,
I'm sure it's sure. That's got to be frustrating. Rename it Mega Drive.
That's what it's called in Europe. I like it. Yep, sure
that's better. Jeff Gerstman, they'll call it that. I have the rights
to that in Europe. No, you don't. I do. I own
the rights to Jeff Gerstman in Europe. The board game rights. Fuck board
game. Some dude somewhere in Europe owns Jeff Grisman dot com. Yeah,
I don't se Yeah, some dude in Europe. Wait a minute, you
motherfucker, But turn that frown upside down, Jeff, because Planet Side two
is coming yay. They released an official trailer and said, yep, we're
making Planet Side too. Man. I hope that's good, and we're calling
it planet Side two apparently, even though it really is just planet Side again.
Even thought, look looking at that trailer, I mean, like,
I recognize that building, and I guess I'm probably gonna have to go and
take over that building again, aren't I wait, laying on the roof,
it's faster. Is that really what they're doing. Yeah, it's like it's
from the sounds of things, from what they've talked about. They haven't,
you said a ton, but it sounds like it's like set in the same
period of time. It's not necessarily advancing the story. It's just like these
three factions are fighting each other, same same three factions, same maps.
I don't know about those continent or hopefully it is before they added all the
underground caves, because that's that for me, is where the Planet Side went
did really bad? That game even have maps per se or was it just
one giant land? It's one giant land mass, but you zone between them,
okay, I guess, and you can kind of air drop to any
one of them at any point. I guess. That's all I remember from
Planet Side was a lot of waiting around to get on the air transport to
the You could just like instant action anywhere you wanted or if you like so
ill when you wanted to go to a specific spot, though, But it
wasn't really just spect myself for flying and just flew wherever I wanted to go.
But it wasn't a bunch of like sixteen player instances or whatever. No,
no, no, it was. It was massively multiplayer. And they
have said so much I guess about this one that it's not instanced at all,
Like you get on server and you fight dudes? Is it? Was
it? The game ever a good shooter? No, it's still a great
concept. Yeah, I think about when it came out, like you know,
network technology back then. I mean it's still two perfect sure too,
I'm getting yeah, I'm getting too. Yeah, you know, because you're
right, so like you know, just trying to do an action game with
that many players, you know, it's a dicey property created his computer for
this stupid game. I guess, I probably, I just it was.
It was a lot of fun too, Like even take into account that just
like the weapons didn't fire like they did in a you know, four player
first person shooter, right, you know, even compensating for that, it
was still really cool when it worked. But at this point, like scale
of a PC multiplayer first person shooter has increased so much that like the basic
novelty of there's a lot of dudes in this fight, like, isn't That's
why they're saying it's not instanced, because that means like there could be a
lot more dudes in this theoretically than there even are in you know, but
in a battlefield game or in MAG or I mean, I guess, like
like that didn't matter enough to make MAG, like you got to have a
good underlying like you got to have a strong fucking basics and some of the
semisimilar ideas that they kind of basically, you know, in a lot of
ways, MAG took some of the stuff the PlanetSide did, and not directly,
but you know other games did this, but try to build it into
a lasting conflict. There was from persistence in the world of Mag based on
how your faction was doing, and that's all That's what Planet Side really was
is you know, you your your faction would take over whole areas and then
you would all go to bed and wake up and you didn't have any any
of it anymore, and you'd have to just keep fighting forever. So do
you do you think you can make this Planet Side to a subscription MMO in
today's kind of like my understanding that I think there's already said, like the
developments is it? Well, they said they're not talking about the model,
which would suggests they're doing something different. Free to play. I think free
to play makes a lot of sense. I just feel like with the first
person shooters in the purchase and persistence on a local level, the appeal of
like an online persistent first person shooter. But like with something like mag which
is kind of that model, I mean there is persistence right, kind of
becomes less appealing. But it was like the thing with Mag is its persistence
that you didn't really see and touch, Like this is what like a world
you can go into if you just want to hang out behind your lines and
just like you're holding this base down and it's gonna you know, even if
they're attacking in this direction, they could take them four hours of taking over
bases and rolling past all our automated defenses to even get to where we're at.
I was thinking more of like the perk system and like character like leveling
up. Now they maybe to say you could kind of respect yourself in a
lot of different directions, so you would spend your spec points to like get
classified for like you'd get the like I'm I'm able to now pilot this type
of vehicle because I put this many points into flying shit just way deeper.
Uh. Yeah, they could go deeper trees. They could definitely go deeper
on trees. And it sounds like I think PC gamer has like a wrap
up on their site talking about like some of the stuff that's in there and
stuff like that. There's like it is stuff about skill trees and there's some
guys going to pretty deep on trees on the fifth floor at the Higher Sea.
Sounds horrible, sir, the whole row of planet side machines up on
the fifth floor, Big Old Land. I'm just not very confident players up
there with all that. Bob Woo. I can't bring that into the statesman.
I'll bust you for sure. Yeah, I mean, Patrick, I'm
with you with that concern Sony online entertainment. I just don't like, I
really think it's a great concept that like if the rumors are true, and
then like Bungee's thing is kind of this but like done by Bungee, I
got to have a lot more confidence that someone like them is going to pull
it off because it is a great concept waiting for someone to just figure it
out. And Bungee arguably has both ends of the like we can do good
network connectivity and also we know how to make a very solid first person that
you got to scale it and find a way to make that conflict fun on
a larger scale. And I kind of trust them a lot more than I
trust and it's a hard enough to crack. That's yeah. Multiple people who
have have tried the the large scale constantly even you know, you know,
yeah, whether it's the real time aspect of it that like the action end
of it, or whether it's like the persistent world aspect of it of just
like and then I logged out and then we started over from scratch the next
day because someone else logged in and the Blue guys took over all our turf.
How do you make people care and have investment right when its conflict that
just goes forever? Yeah, and like when you go to bed, how
all that changes? Like yeah, it's it could be cool though the concept
just so awesome. Still, that's someone's gonna be like it's gonna be like
like monthly wins or something. There's gotta be more structure too. You need
something. You need to just like you need dudes in a world it would
give you stuff where like, you know, the more stuff you took over,
you would start to get like benefits to your so I mean just logged
in each time. They would give certain factions bonuses if they're understaffed on a
server, that sort of stuff, trying to keep it ahead. But then
it needs to be something like, you know, get a cool piece of
like unique fucking gear for your dude that you can show off, like if
all right, our our faction you know quote unquote one during this month,
so we got this thing or you know, it's just some sort of token
like that, so that it's not just the Yeah, well, like I
am in this endless conflict, end to what end and why? Like events
occur in planet Side or is it just there are just no there weren't really
no because I think that's what There was no real single player. There was
no real why don't you needs a single player? But if like if they're
like I mean, I mean, just like you were fighting the environment.
Yeah, it was just like any any dude you saw was a human.
Okay. There could be more things, like they could shape the world to
change it dynamically, you might be able to focus players rather. Yeah,
there was an expansion that like totally rejiggered the way the world looked and added
all these caves that were shortcuts between areas and stuff, and then I added
these Mex suits that were not fun, and that expansion just kind of ruin
the game in a lot of ways. People still play it like it has
a I couldn't get running on one to seven. I tried actually installing it
last year at one point but couldn't get it going. But yeah, this
is a new engine that's they're also apparently using for the next EverQuest games.
They're calling EverQuest Next, Yeah, because Planet Side two is called Planets Side
Next. At one point they showed one screen looks all right, it looks
like a elf awesome. So you think what they showed in that trailer for
Planets Side Too is game player? You think that's just mock up show.
I thinks game player. It didn't look that good if you if you look
at it's definitely it's definitely game played. All right, One more story here,
Uncharted movie David or Russell dropped out a couple of weeks ago, or
at least it was announced that he dropped out a couple of weeks ago.
We now have director Neil Burger stepping in. Most recently did Limitless Limitless the
Bradley Cooper Drugs Make You Awesome movie, also did to the Fifth Floor.
Also down the Cooper's up there, did the Only Pills Make You Awesome?
Not all Dr Robert scenarios up there? You work for me. Now,
there's no scenario in which you don't smoke this weed and then we go buy
stocks. So also the Illusionist his credit, that's some other stuff, but
he wrote that too, you're losing it. Yes, okay, good to
know. Good movie, not as yes, yea, not as good as
as the Prestige Obvious, which is kind of the obvious comparison. But but
but yeah stands on the Stone no deep impact it is. It is not
very good as a competitor to like Armageddon. Yeah, like it's you put
deep impact arm again against Okay, I kind of Mercury not a good,
not a good comparison to Mercury rising the alc Baltwine. So because of the
limitless connection, everyone's saying Bradley Cooper for Nathan Drake, which I will say,
you could cast a lot worse for that role. It's not gonna be
Nathan Phillian. Just just just listen, guys, it's yeah. I love
Nathan Philly. Yeah, I find him charismatic. I watch his stupid show,
even though it's extremely stupid. Castle. Yeah, it's not good.
It's just pretty dumb. It's a dumb show. I also brandably watched Doctor
Horror recently. Yeah. Man, he hands it up in the watch the
whole I don't know what are you watching. I took that as a positive
sure, as it absolutely doesn't hand it up. I mean, that thing
knows what it's going for and again it goes for it. I just found
it pretty unpalatable until the last like ten minutes when it suddenly got pretty good.
I didn't like Bad Horse, Bad Horse, Bad Horse is in the
ending. Yeah, but bad horse like like the ending doesn't work unless the
bad horse like set up through the rest of the thing happened. Sure.
Sure, but the bad Horse payoff is amazing. Ye, I'll absolutely give
you that is really good. Anyway, no casting announces have been made other
than hey, Neil Burger is the new director on this, but you know
obviously went and wild a speculation on on The Bad Cop. I had heard
that Sony and Naughty Dog were extremely upset over how what's his face Russell was
was was handling less of what is reshaping of the movie was going to be.
They were sort of okay with that, but more of like the way
he handled it in public, and so there was I was told there was
definitely some pressure to to get him off the project. The problem with like,
once you take David Russell off and he's hot off of an Oscar film
is that you were on the risk of like then the movie just goes to
development. Hell, right, So the fact that they picked someone up,
you know, it's good. Yeah, hopefully, Yeah. And I supposed
to even knew about that. He was about that mass efect movie at Comic
Con, But there was a Gears of War panel about that movie and that
never had Also, don't forget the World of Warcraft movie y Sam Raimi was
still working on that could still happen. Yeah, that when I was announced,
that was like, he's going to go do another movie before he looks
at this. I'd rather say he's done like three, he hasn't. He
did Drive Me to Hell, but that was this was announced after that,
is it? Yes? And then he was gonna do this Wizard of Oz
movie. Okay, so he's doing that, So if he doesn't do it
after this, then then you can write it off. Okay. I would
rather see a World of Warcraft Saturday Morning cartoon, the way they just take
old episodes of the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon and just like say, it's a
batch of kids that got sucked into fantasy world. They were sitting in front
of their computers and then one of them spilled him out and do with the
keyboard and now, oh no, we're stuck on You think the un they
should just re dubbed the old Uh doesn't like yeah, exactly, look out
for that wiver. Yeah whatever I'm saying, just different descriptive text for it.
That's that's the we should go talk to Van Cleef. So, so,
Patrick, what do you think the reality then of this movie being made?
Sony Like, I think they're right that this could be an Indiana Jones
type franchise for them, So they have a reason to make this happen,
But they also have a reason to not cast Nathan Phillion, So stop hambling
it, Okay. So yeah, i'd say decent shot, I hope.
So I still wish. I believe it could be a great film, Branch,
I still wish they go over Mivinsky BioShock movie happened. Yeah, yeah,
and basic basically they said make a PG thirteen. He said no,
then we just won't make it, and so great. Then it was budgetary.
It was, but it was budgetary plus plus the he wanted it to
be a hard R and they said no. So I would still see a
PG thirteen by shot movie. I don't think that's it. I'd rather see
a hard R sure, sure in anything. Yeah, but literally, any
movie that you proposed to me is like, make that hard R. Yeah,
then I'll no hard Pee's Big Adventure hard R. Yeah, what's that
terrible frightening Yeah, it makes that large margin sequence just really disturbing. Is
that bathtub sequence really hotter hard hot? It's already hot. All right,
let's talk about some new rests. Yeah, I'm just kidding. There are
no new lads. No wait to misflosire Man's coming out this week. Warlords
coming out? What war Warlords coming out? Warlords came out for arcades in
like nineteen eighty so back then. NCAA Football twelve is out this week,
as is Harry Potter and the Deathy Hallows Part two. So thenny one more
Harry Potter game. Yeah, because this would be the last Harry Potter game.
This should be the last of the movie Harry Potter games. There you
go, I guess is the last time the license to the Harry Potter games?
Yes? So someone hooray? Are we gonna do another one of those?
Yep? Is it connect? I don't know, took it out?
Okay, so that sounds it's here. That's all that you get that close
enough? All right? Cool? I guess that Warhammer forty K kill team
just got announced out of this week, the Boulder Dash XL. Yes,
Boulder Dash XL the team. So the dual choice takes shooter. It's like
the remember how the base Space Marines coming out soon Sonier's downloada ball games set
in the Warhammer August or September. I want to say, it's that's the
Relic games Space Marine. So this is supposed to be lead up to that
emotional item. Yeah, I think. I think they are treating as a
promotional item, but they're also selling. They did the Red Faction Battleground game,
which worked out for that game. Woof that yeah, woof, I'm
barking at the dog. That was that Red Factions Battleground game. That was
right up there with the Star Trek dual joystick shooter or the Wing Commander dual
joystick shooter, or I always forget there was a Wing Commander du yeah,
or or the Battlestar Galactica dual joystick shooter, all of which were not All
those were dual joystick shooters. Some of them need to turn in the direction
and fire. That's true, totally different. They're all junkie that that I'm
with you on. All right, let's talk about some emails. Bomb cast
at john bomb dot com comes in from I just I really have not been
finding it the last few weeks. Okay, Ultram is a summer Man,
the All Star break is upon us. That thats again just like every week.
This is this is why I'm taking a cake yail surprise. You mean
you'll just like put emails in a different part of the show next week and
you just keep my toes. You won't even know, just be like ready
to drift off and all of a sudden emails. All right, challenge me.
I was email attacks just into throughout the show. Just whenever he's gonna
show behind you with a video game broughout the week. Yeah, anytime show
up in your house, you're come at me with an inbox, be next
to be next year in bed and just just whisker emails, creep back out.
He's made all right, It's possible. HK writes in to say,
whoop. Indeed, excellent show is always keeping up. I was wondering about
the state of Vinnie's eyes a few months ago. He said he went to
the doctor's stuff hope all is best for him. Bennyny email, I've got
to go back. I go back to the doctor. It's still there.
It's still there. You've just adjusted to it. I guess, no,
it's still there. Yeah, I go back to the doctor next week.
Next Monday, I canceled an appointment and said I was like, hey,
I'm gonna cancel this appointment. She's like, oh, okay, you want
to resketch. I was like, next month or something. It's still there,
so I don't need to go to the doctor to say, hey,
it's still there once you wait it out. Here's my twenty cope all right,
and she I think she kind of got mad at me for being like,
you wait a month and I was like, yeah, you're just gonna
tell me it's still there. So here's a month later. All right,
it's still there. I kind of want to cancel it again. No,
go to the doctor. Yeah, I'm gonna insist this time, so it's
still there. I'll pay part of your cope. Yeah, I'll pitch in.
I got my task money. Okay, that's fine, I'll take I
post tax. I don't care if it gets you to the doctor. What
do you say? It's still there? And I'll be like, yeah,
I know it's still there. Maybe maybe he's gonna be like, well,
do you want to get it lasered off? I don't know, should get
a laser dog? I don't want to get it's just gonna be there.
Then it's supposed to go away. Yeah it's not, but it's not so
lasers. I'm gonna go on vacation. You know what I've got, I've
got laser discs. I think I just need to close time and it's opened
the laser displayer displayer. Yeah, we'll just rattle your head around in the
laser discplayer for a little bit. You'll see mad Dog McCree for the rest
of your days. I wanted to ask, how do you hook up a
laser disc player to a modern TV video? But really, yeah, is
that the best for the laser displayer. It's the best that my laser displayer
does. There are better options there may be considering how how late LaserDisc movies
were coming out, at some point someone might have made an HDM mileas or
displayer. Definitely, not really. I would be impressed to see a full
component laser disc player. Yeah, I mean lasers so yeah, I know,
but so like converting to that doesn't people even suggested on my player because
I was doing crazy research. I've got a Marantz, which is of course
kind of a high end. Apparently turns out it's a rebranded Pioneer but Pioneer
is the fucking brand player displayers. And I was reading some some some opinions
that you actually like the composite is better than S Video for this, and
I couldn't quite wrap my head around it because it had to do with image
processing chips and just weird shit like that, because because the only people that
are still talking about these displayers on the internet are lunatic ass like audio and
video files. Who are you know, just like the oh there's Japanese only
release of this disc, the only place that you can still get blah blah
blah blah blah. So I couldn't quite writ my head around it. But
yeah, there's it's weird weird people. But I I'm hooked up through S
video right now because it's as good as mine goes. Thanks thanks to that
guy for asking. Yeah, yeah, it was. It accrued to me,
I'm like ship hower of in these eyes. I haven't heard him acual.
He kind of freaked out for a while and it seemed like he,
I don't know, got over it, so I wasn't sure if he just
adjust The guy it's a doctor quote unquote. Doctors said it would just go
away and just don't don't go holistic on it, honest, just yet.
It's not it's not holistic. It's guys like it'll go away. It's not.
It's not time for Christian science just yet. It's always time for Christians.
Let's work it out. The reading room callses it like, Isaac D.
Yeah, you definitely, if you know, you gotta start using the
that's right, glaucoma medicine. Don't do it around me. Isaac D.
From Wilmington, Delaware. I was wondering if you guys knew who owns the
cruise in that name. These days, I'd love to see a little more
exotica in my racing. Thanks. It was a Nintendo publish. Those areas
Midway Midways are midway games. So you think Warner ended up probably yeah,
I mean, well not necessarily thought some of that, but that seems like
one that I mean because war bought like a lump of the stuff, right,
They basically took over everything that didn't get sold in that other ways Microsoft
by hydro Thunder. Yeah yeah I think so, yeah, I think yeah,
they create they released that one, Yeah they did, and they bought
that license. They owned that. Okay, like all that stuff just went
up for an auction. That yah, it's just I think Warner took the
lion's share of it, right, Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that seems
like still something. It also seems like something that someone might actually bid for
ahead of the Warner buy out. So I guess we don't know, but
my guess is it's most likely with Warner. It's so crazy. Yeah,
I was gonna say, it's so crazy that that like that none of that.
Yeah, Patrick, let's find out if we can even I can do
that, even learn that ship, because because it struck to be a while
ago, like how does this not all just like easily accessible public information?
It is there is a trademark database and I can just go because you have
to dive into the awful world. Yeah, that's marked database when news gets
real desperate. And then I started going through patent databases. I know that
like maybe I needed to like sit down and come with a new ideas when
I find myself going through again, I can find that out if you wanted
to, if you wanted to get into the racing game, and so I
think there's probably the worst ips you could do it with and cruising right,
I just know, what would you do with this kind of thing? Is
it was part of the tech of its people remember that name, yeah,
and send the song the song and cruising USA was great. Cruising it's not
as good as not as good as the Blacks, not as good as Holy
shit, the Black Night two thousand song is so fucking good. Oh my
god, if they could, if they could just recut Brave Heart or any
sort of sword fighting anything that's music, I don't care. That's my new
everything. Trailer music is the Black Night two thousand music. You put that
on fucking anything, and it's amazing. Probably, probably I would play I
would play Brett. I would play machines that were just near Black Night two
thousand machines, just so I could hear the Black Night two thousand song.
Come on, it's so goddamn triumphant. Was that machine for sale? There
were a couple of Black Night two machines, multiple and I don't believe that
no one is selling their Black Night or no at least or not that fronting
like they are selling, because that's just something you don't sell those get a
hold of that. Those are treasured items. One of those was autographed,
not by ed one of those. Yeah. Anyway, I bring up California
Extreme because this next email comes from Eric and Dublin California at California Extreme.
The other day, I spotted Ryan and Jeff playing the Grid. It's true
I mentioned earlier we played with that happened we played with with ed. Unbeknownst
to them, around the corner, one of their opponents was also playing an
iPhone game between matches and sometimes while the match was going on. This person
appeared to be about twelve years old, and as such I believe represents the
future of gaming. While for the future, I also it also made me
think in which two games could best go together, would would go best if
you had to play two at the same time. Currently, I'm playing Assassin's
Creed, Brotherhood and Torch Light. I don't have the strength to try it,
but it seems like a good combo. Your thoughts trying to think.
I've definitely played like turn based games in between levels of like real time game.
Let's just say, like play some Quake and then play a little x
Colm in between. Nothing that elaborate, but you know, it's usually like
game running on PC or I don't play some bad Minty. Yeah, yeah,
I've definitely been like playing you know, I probably played like bullet Storm
and Dungeon Raid at the same time at some point. Yeah, you know
the obvious example, they put the Jeweled right into the world of Warcreshure likes
it's in there. But so this actually made me think that I saw this
happening elsewhere where. There was a kid playing like fucking crazy Climber or something
while he had his open DS in one of his hands. Nice I was,
yeah, I was like, fuck, like this, this arcade machine
is not enough for you. It's like, no, I need something else
going on over here. Yeah, I need That's awesome. It was.
It was crazy to me because I'm like, I just yeah, I put
it playing all my attention into playing pac Man as well as I can because
I'm an old man, right, I can only do one of these games,
That's right. That was That was definitely one of those like seeing that,
I'm like, oh man, that kid is super young and I'm way
old. This is this, This is not enough to keep his attentions so
used to the high levels of input like pac Man. Some bullshits like oh
yeah, Dot's great ghosts yawn, I want to go back up to the
fifth floor, get down on some trees. Yeah, make these games of
them more fun. David from Cincinnati for their anniversary Bungee Headed promotion where they
sold random bags of swag from their office with the proceeds going to charity.
I got one and it contained a sealed copy of Super Marathon for the Apple
pippin nice wishing. All of my research on the internet suggests pretty dang hard
to find. I'm not really a rare game collector, so I don't know
what to do with this thing. Selling on any base seems wrong to me.
Should I just hang onto it or some obscure pipping for him on the
internet and see if any real collectors want it. I'd check out and see
what's worth and just hang out of him. Man, Yeah, get a
pipping, Okay, go down that path. That's got it. That's a
that's a good. Also, if you find a form with like pipping enthusiast,
like, let me know because I'd like to read it. You want
to know what I just want to see that communities up here? What's the
piping crowd talking about these days? Homebrew? Yeah, guarantee? Yeah,
apporting some modern thing to the pipping I saw somebody on Twitter. I want
to say it was Chris Hohler, but I can't remember. Somebody was posting
pictures of a Nintendo World Championship cart old one last week. Yeah. So
this this guy, Steve, Steve Lynn, our our guardian angel during California
stream, has a nearly complete, really set of Actually I think it might
be the gold cart is the only thing that he's missing from his collection is
like, that's like the Holy Grail, right, Yeah, that's like that's
rowing up, you're steak and going to Vegas. That's yeah. Were those
things going hundred cares? Was ten? Like ten grand It's but it's like,
yeah, oh yeah, because that's uh. That Namco power pad game
was like, yeah, officially the most valuable video game ever sold, and
that was like forty grands. Yeah, you didn't hear about that. The
game they became what did it? What did they rename it? They rebranded
it. It was rebranded his Nintendo's own power pad like Track and Field.
What was the name of it was the game that came out with it.
It was Worlds like World Class Track Meet or something like that. It's the
thing that looked like like Track and Field and you probably call it track and
Field, but it was not tracking field. Like they basically shipped like wasn't
it some small number like a couple of hundred copies or something something like that,
and then Nintendo and then like they were like they were just like,
hey, we're gonna put this out with power pad, like yank it off
shelves, like like the couple hundred gets sold or whatever, like some some
lady sold like a sealed copy for like forty thousand dollars. My goodness,
yeah, craziness. Uh, it's gonna happen to meet some day. Somebody's
gonna want to buy my not sealed copy of I was gonna say, Minimony
Shicato Tambourine for PlayStation one. So when you die and we have to go
and sit through all your ships, oh man, Yeah, I got the
sealed copy of Mister Mosquito Tony for the Lisa. I'm pretty sure mister Mosquito
never came out for the Lisa. Are you sure? You know what?
I'm pretty sure he's almost certain, So I'm I'm pretty sure, and I'm
almost certain whatever you're I can nearly guarantee that snitch not a cop. So
I don't have to tell you if I am Tony from Lafayette, Indiana worse
than it's because you can't tell. I don't have to wear bad Cops from
from mile away can smell him. Snitches, we're everywhere, man, Be
careful what you do, sitch A snitch thro I'm so sorry, so so
oh my odd being an unintentional snitch, the worst kind of snitch you got.
I know, I know, yeah, exactly, I got zero out
of it. It was not my intention. I know. Every time I
watched a cop procedural feel for the snitch, feel for the poor snitch,
kindred spirits. Now think of the snitches, you guys, just think of
them, Okay, I'm thinking of him. Tony rights in to say I
had the opportunity to buy a near mint conditioned Bad Dudes Versus Dragging Ninja arcade
cabinet for four hundred dollars. Stop you right there, Tony, for to
bucks too much for a Bad Dudes arcade machine. If it's in super dope
shape and the monitor is great, I could see paying four hundred. But
I see why I already told him, offering him to offer him three hundred.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, try and haggle, go and offer
him three hundred because four hundreds just it seems like seems to be the way
to start. It's that stuff. It's there's a good, a decent double
Dragon machine for three fifty there. But you know, it's it. We're
probably just spoiled coming straight off California Extreme. And and you know, if
if you go and look on Craigslists, like there are the places that have
like the retail storefronts that are charging way too much money's crazy. And most
of the stuff on eBay is also way it's over pretty wild. Yeah,
it can. It gives you an inflated sense of what those that stuff is
actually worth. And then you go and then you go to calif Extreme.
But and and again, like I'm sure there's a density to the amount of
arcade machines in this area that a lot of other places do not see most
of the places. Yeah, it's the reason why they had the California Extreme
where they have it. A lot of them are made right there. Yeah,
that was the birthplace of good, good number of those machines for sure.
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm just gonna say, Tony for a little I
don't know, man, if you're feeling it, if you're like if you
weigh into bad dudes, how but I mean again we act quick look though,
so yeah, you can actually your value proposition, you make it too
bad. It's longer than Double Dragon. That's I mean, that's more of
my point. It's like, you know that cab that easily converts to a
Robocops of that era? Probably right in sure, rob Cock is pretty good.
Plenty of other games that are. It wouldn't even non dated stype.
It would drop right now, probably like narc you do you have to say
that, Well, dude already owns a Neo Geo Cabinet with Sam Show two
in it, So so he's done. Don't find any other games. You
got it, you have it. You got Sam Ruschi on Too Finished.
Yeah, I was gonna say, Patrick, I got Sam us as the
owner of the Neo Geo cabinet. You kind of buy law, I have
to own a copy of Sam Show too? How much just Sam Show two
costs like ten? Yea, Yeah, it's one of those I need to
get. No, it's it's eBay, it's relatively easy to find. I
want to get King of the Monsters. Yeah, it's probably not too hard.
Like like, that's the thing is like most of the like, most
of the great games for that system are the ones that you would see,
or at least most of the games that you want are the games that you
would see. Fucking every right, the ones that would be in those like
six switch cabinets or four switch cabinets, those are the ones that are all
in my installed memories, except from Magicians Lord and Nam seventy five. I'm
Gonna Get Hi Back. I gets the Owner in a nap seventy five Magician
Lord, I never loved that game. Yeah, I never thought it was
great. Get the Superspies the first person you can got in the face,
kick a guy in the face. Superspy is fucking awesome. That Get cross
swords, Yes, super Spiling you got swords. Yeah, I'm a guy
in the face now, I'm seventy five second time on this podcast? Anybody,
anybody? We were just talking about seventy five second God, I was
so yeah, we were just looking awesome. I was so thinking about something
else, all right, but we can't talk about yet. On that note,
turn off, they pass cyber lip. I gotta redeem myself here,
how about cyber Lip. David and I played cyber Lips start to finish at
the California Extremes One. You couldn't think of telling me the Double Dragon there's
a trench in that game. Well sorry, I mean there's a mobile there's
a mobile walking platform. You guys just snitched on double phone. Yeah,
welcome to the club jet No. I actually told those guys when I saw
him on Sunday, I was like, you should go play Cyberlip because I
think you guys got a you know, lawsuit. It's in there for like
a splits like two seconds or something like that. But I looked at it
when like a right platform, that are you know what? Probably Cyberlip too.
That's an easy license to pick up. So that's what they'll just rename
the European original. That's a pretty good name done. Cyberlips terrible names,
So it's a terrible name until you played deep enough into it and then you
see a pair of metal lips talking to you and it's the Cyberlip and you're
like, oh, this is great, Like there's literally yeah, it's not
just literally cybernetic lips in that game. I want to hear any computer that
tells you at California strang it tells you that it's not evil, that it
was just programmed bad. There's programmed to do bad stuff, but it's not
inherently evil, like okay, cyberlips. And then you blow up cyberlips and
then the president who's beginning of your missions along his eye school red and he
says mission accomplished that Oh no, oh no, Ronnie, damn, you
should not rescue that guy's regardless of how much he loves cheeseburgers. Ha ha
ha ha ha ha fuck you, Ronnie. All Right, that's it for
emails. Thanks everyone wrote in BombCast at giant bomb dot com is the address.
We're playing two on Thursday night throw down this week. Willen orm from
Tested gonna come and jump in. I think we're gonna do some stuff with
some of the Valve guys too, So yeah, yeah, yeah, the
details on that being hammered out as we speak, but yeah, look look
for that. Teports two is not free to play, So anyone, everybody,
anyone out there, anyone out there, t F two dot giant bomb
dot com, the run on anything. You got a timex Sinclair, you
got a Lisa yourself yourself, an Apple Pippen, Yeah, an Apple Pippin
No. Two for I don't think you can put apple. Well, there's
an Apple pipp And emulator for Neo Geo. Then on the fucking version of
TF two, people want to run on Neo Jo all day long. I've
seen him Pippin for three. All right, that's it for this show from
from the Nark signing off, Thanks everyone for listening. Back next Tuesday get
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