What's he will have the impossible or whatever remains however improbable must be true.
And it is not a question of a little cultism. What a touch of
mysticism is to dead? It is vampires. There's a host of damned souls
and hellipus thy Father's spirit to do it for a certain term, to walk
the night here. The old gods are to dead and what is the true
god? He is dead? Can't complain people assume the time is a strict
progression of cause to effect that action. From a nonlinear, non subjective viewpoint,
it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimi stuff. You're
listening to Paranormal UK Radio and good evening everybody. Welcome to another dish and
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Radio Network. I'm your host for this evening, Mark Johnson. Our regular
host Irene Allen is a little tied up and unfortunately not able to join us
tonight, so we wish her well, hope things get straightened out and she'll
be back with us next time. Just want to mention that for all of
you, those of you who keep tuning into the network. I want to
thank everybody. We have so many great shows. We've got a few new
shows that are coming out soon, so we'll keep you posted. And I'm
really looking forward to traveling to the UK and just a little over a week
from now and get to, you know, hang out with Irene in person
and be able to take the piss out of her to her face instead of
over Skype for a change. So that should be at out of fun.
And plus a few of our other radio show hosts are going to be joining
us. And while I'm out there, I am definitely bringing my equipment with
me because I plan to do some investigating while I'm out there. Plenty of
haunted castles and other locations, including Irene's own house, which which is a
hotspot, let's put it that way. So looking forward to that. We're
going to have a great time. So with that being said, we are
going to jump right into tonight's guest. Now, we've had this gentleman on
our show a couple of years ago and now he's out with a new book.
We're talking with Mike rick Secker. Now. He has written several books
and his newest one is called Alaska's Mysterious Triangle. So talking about the Alaska
Triangle mystery. So Mike, welcome back to the program. Hey, thanks
for having me back, Mark, I really appreciate it. Oh, no
problem. You know I'm I'm intrigued by this subject matter for a number of
reasons, so definitely looking forward to it. Now, how long ago did
the book come out? That was almost two years ago? Now, actually
have a new one coming out here August first Travels through Time, So yes,
Alaska's Mysterious trigal at the moment is the latest but soon to be supplanted.
Well you know what this means, Mike, you just have to have
We're gonna have to bring you back in as soon as the new one is
out, because talking about time travel is another one of my favorite subjects and
getting we'll get Irene back on for that one. So we'll work out a
date with you and see we needn't come back. It sounds wonderful, but
yeah, it was. It was October twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
that says here twenty twenty one. Okay, you know the years just kind
of all blend together, especially the last few years. Yeah, yeah,
because COVID kind of really gummed up the works there for a while. So
really that that just made the last few years a real blur. But okay,
yeah, October twenty twenty one. That sounds about right. Okay,
Now, what made you want to look into the Alaskan Triangle mystery? Yeah,
well, you know, I spent three years up in Alaska's part of
the United States Air Force back in the nineties, nineteen ninety five, and
I did see and witness some strange things up there. But um, you
know, really how I got involved with that again was about five years ago,
I believe now, and it was a group there in the UK production
comp any Wild Dream Films, and they had reached out to me really about
a video I'd done on YouTube about the relationship between portals, energy and paranormal
activity, paranormal hotspots, that sort of thing. It was interesting. It
was one of my least viewed videos that I had on the YouTube channel,
but yet they came across it because they were looking for somebody to talk about
that sort of thing. I had no idea it was about Alaska at the
time. We just got together on a Skype call and we're kind of chatting
a little bit. They wanted to know, now basically what I knew about
that type of phenomena. So we know we're discussing, and then they asked,
well, what do you know about those sorts of things in Alaska?
And I told them, well, I was stationed up there for three years
and people, you know, would talk about the Alaska Triangle. And they
kind of laughed and said, you know, that is the name of our
television show. So they flew me up there to Alaska. We did some
interviews on the side of Flattop Mountain, and yeah, following that, you
know, being a writer, it just made complete sense to go ahead and
write a book on the topic. Now I know that there was a series
that I think it's now available on the streaming Discovery Plus platform on the Alaskan
Triangle. Yeah, yeah, that's the show. It originally aired on Travel
Channel and then it got moved to Discovery Plus. Yeah. Curious because I
only really watched one episode of it. But there was a specific reason for
that, which we'll get into a little bit later in the program. Do
you know which episode number you were on? That was on four different ones?
So yeah, so the Missing Douglas episode, the one on the Alaskan
Titanic, the big one that featured me a lot. It was actually the
the Bigfoot episode, but the second half of it was about what portals vortices
energy. They had me on the side of the mountain with a couple of
dousing rods doing some tests. And then it was episode one of season two
which talked about the Black Pyramid. The pyramid, Okay, then you would
know something. Then I saw you and I'm just not remembering because it's been
been at the very end. Yeah, yeah, it um, there's so
much up in Alaska that is so strange, and there are more shows that
are coming out focusing on all the high strangeness within Alaska. Now they call
it the Triangle, which is a very popular every it seems like everywhere around
the world has a triangle. Um like the Bermuda Triangle, which at least
they draw from, you know, Bermuda. I think, what's to Puerto
Rico and over towards Florida. But is it really a triangle or is it
just a generalized area within Alaska? Right? Well, even with the Bermuda
Trial, it's just branding. Really, Uh, It's it's not a perfect
Triangle. You know, it extends outward from that. I mean basically it's
more like circular in nature, because you're basically what's happening here is, you
know, you have that energy, that magnetism that's welling up from the Earth's
core and as it passes through the you know, the mantle and the crust,
it interacts with different metals and minerals and can create some different magnetic anomalies.
And so, yeah, you have a lot of locations like that around
the world, Bermuda, Alaska, you have the Dragon Triangle out there by
Japan, Bridgewater Triangle in Massachusetts, like Michigan. You know, they're really
all over the place. But yeah, it's not a perfect triangle. It
just kind of helps us to delineate around the area where this strange activity occurs
exactly exactly. And that's actually it's a subject matter that I'm extremely interested in
these days, are these areas of what I call high strangeness, and they
could be smaller locations. One of my favorite shows right now that I think
does an excellent job of actually doing research is on History Channel, which is
also on Discovery Plus, is The Secret Skinwalker Ranch. Yeah, and that's
a good one. Yeah, it's a great show in that they focus on
the one location and the fact that all the different scientific experiments and they keep
the boo boo factor down to a minimum. In fact, they don't have
to really do anything. The ranch does it all for them. Yeah,
exactly. I mean they do have, you know, like the Haunted Homestead
area, but they've kind of briefly touched on it, but they don't focus
on that, you know, they do focus on their experiments and trying to
figure exactly what's going on there. And I think this is another location because
they've they've talked about, okay, the different electromagnetism that's there. You know,
they've pulled interesting metals out of the mesa and things like that, and
so again I believe this is another one of those cases in which, you
know, the natural magnetism coming out of the earth is interacting with different metals
and minerals that are embedded there in the ground. And it's probably a very
large piece or large vein of metals that are there under the ground there at
Skinwalker. That's as the magnetism passes through that's creating all of this strange activity
and with the Alaskan location, and there's so much unique about the geography of
the whole state, being such a big state in itself, the different stories
that you hear all over the place. Not that I want to sit here
and bring up other TV shows all the time, by just another one that
really caught my interest when it first came out, and it was more impressive
than I thought it would be based on the title, which is horrible,
was Alaskan Killer Bigfoot. I don't know if you saw this show. I
have not seen that one. I know, probably because of the title.
Okay, the title is terrible, and yet the show is on par with
Skinwalker Ranch show only because it's not as scientifically based. But the premise is
local native fisherman people from this one village gets set back to this location where
there used to be a thriving fishing community and they basically got chased out of
there back in the nineteen fifties because all this weird stuff was going on that
they attributed to a local Bigfoot they called Nantinak. Yeah Port Chatham uh port
uh not Chatham um because that sounds a lot like that story. Maybe I'm
having a brain freeze here. Um. So they sent these people there for
for forty days and with the film crew following them, and they had so
much strange activity happening. And while the big Foot Nanetinak was at the center
of all of it, from a Reacher's researchers standpoint, there is a lot
of different phenomenon going on there, including what I would consider to be interdimensional
types of phenomenon. And some of it's very disturbing. They they say the
old stories that you know, people were killed and which is why they they
fled. But but a lot of things there and it's very negative. I
got to interview one of the stars of the show, Ash Niederhoff, who
was just as he's kind of like a wilderness survivalist type, really really cool
guy, and you know, we talked about some of his experiences on the
show when some stuff that didn't make it on the show, and it's clear
that he was scared to death because he's not a paranormal guy. None of
these guys are paranormal researchers. They're like fishermen. They're there to see if
they could resettle the area, and the location was pushing back big time,
right And it's just an example of all the different locations around Alaska that has
this real high strangeness. Yeah. Well, it's interesting about Alaska. You
know, it's something that was actually measured by the US Department of the Interior
back during the nineteen sixties. They covered, you know, not the entire
state of Alaska. Uh. You know that Alaska's over six hundred thousand square
miles. It's like two and a half times the size of Texas, and
people don't really realize how big it is. But they still covered, um,
you know, about one hundred thousand square miles, so a sixth of
the state. And within that area, they classified what they call five distinct
magnetic characters within this one hundred thousand square miles, some of which they described
as negative anomalies. So you know, this is you know, research that's
been done by the government that is publicly accessible, in which they are describing
as negative magnetic activity that's in that area up there. Um, by negative,
can you can you clarify that, um, you know, magnetic activity
that is going to have a dramatic effect on the area that will create interference
patterns and things of this nature in those areas. So m you know,
although I have not yet been able to confirm it. I believe this is
why they built harp where they did in Gakona, and uh you know it's
and that's one where they were, uh you know, creating artificial auroras in
the sky. So they were our government, I know. So yeah,
let's mess with nature some more than they wonder why we're having so many problems
with nature right now? Exactly? Oh good lord. Um, Now,
when you when you were up there, you said you had when you were
in the Air Force, you had some experiences. Could you talk about those?
Yeah? Absolutely, so, Yeah, I worked primarily in the Alaskan
Command Building a little bit less than a year after because they had away from
my security clearance to come in. And once that did, I moved over
to the Alaskan Command Building and spend about two and a half years there.
And I was in a secure facility in the basement of that building. Our
department shared space with the base communications center. And you know, we saw
you, and not just myself, but many of us down there. We're
experiencing shadow activity where you know, we would see these different what you would
call it a shadow person, you know, moving in and around mostly the
back office areas. Sometimes we would see something dart into where we kind of
had the server rats, or there was even another room way in the back
behind the com center. You know, something would sometimes dart into there,
and you know, we can't really talk about can really be too vocal about
it, because you know, if you started talking about seeing things like that,
you might find yourself down at mental health and lose your security clearance.
But you know there are some underlying chatter amongst us about these different things that
we'd see, because sometimes you'd be walking with somebody and all of a sudden,
down a hallway between the cubicles there, you know, this shadow would
kind of move past, and so you know what's what was interesting was,
you know people would talk about, well, you know this building was originally
a hospital, and where we're set up at is the morgue, and you
know where our server racks where they were saying that's where the coolers had been.
Well, when I was doing my research for Alaska's Mysterious Triangle, of
course, I'm going to write about that story, and I wanted to confirm
the details. Come to find out now that the building was never a hospital.
It was only ever used for exactly what it was being used for then,
which is command. So then it got me wondering, Okay, what
in the world it were these shadows that we were seeing because I can't say
everybody because then talk to everybody down there, but a lot of people were
seeing these things, and so you know that that kind of curtails into a
out of the work that I've been doing here lately with the nature of time
and time travel, and you know, I started thinking, well, maybe
some of these were time slips and we were seeing some resident images of you
know, perhaps the past, perhaps the future. Perhaps some of these things
that we were seeing were even ourselves of course, you know, charged by
the energy of the area. So yeah, there's Oh, there are a
lot of bizarre things that happened up there. You know. The one thing
I was going to mention that has to do with the military. There's a
lot of talk of the military having secret basis up there, and one of
them involving this supposed underground dark pyramid, which was the basis of your of
the show you were on with season two. There's a story that they told
in there that a friend of mine, his father in fact, he went
up and they filmed him for the episode back in the eighties. I believe
his father used to be in the in the in the Air Force, and
he was a civilian, but he was up in Alaska and he caught a
he hopped a ride on a helicopter that was going close to where he was
going to go. And he's of course friends with all the pilots, being
a pilot himself, and they told him, look, we have to make
a stop. You're to keep your mouth shut, don't say anything, and
we're not here, okay. And they flew to this location that there were
some crates I guess on board. They flew to this location that was just
basically a fence and a little building and that was and there were guys in
black military fatigues with no insignia, armed to the teeth, and when the
helticopter came in, it wasn't even allowed to touch on the ground. It
had to hover a foot off the ground while they unloaded the crates. And
the second of the crates were done, they took off and as they left,
my friend's father asked them what was that all about? When they confided
in him that supposedly there's this underground pyramid that the government found and it's a
secret installation. Now, he went on the show and they had him in
an airplane and flying over roughly you know, where the area was supposed to
be. He couldn't remember. He was never there, so he didn't know
where it was exactly. It was just a story his father told. Well,
he and I used to do a podcast show ourselves for this one several
years ago. And when he first told this story and he went on Coast
to Coast with George Nor to tell the story, well, he started getting
harassing phone calls basically telling him to shut the f up. And then suddenly
he himself was a member of the Coast Guard for many, many years.
All of his records disappeared, everything dealing with his pension, everything vanished,
and it took him months to get it straightened out, to find backups.
But he felt it was retaliation for him coming out speaking publicly about it.
Yeah, I'm familiar with that story. And yeah, when you start poking
around like that, they'll they'll try to make they'll try to make your life
miserable, make things disappear. Your bab blazars kind of face the same thing,
which is which is a shame. But but yeah, I mean I
can't I can't confirm, you know, the black Pyramid story because I was
not there. I did not witness the Black period. I am familiar with
some of the stories that have come out of their regarding that, and it
is interesting because yeah, on that same episode, they flew up there and
you could see, you know, very clearly where you know, there had
been like a small runway in an old road and a clearing where it looks
like a building would have been in that sort of thing, and uh,
you know, there are locations around the country and really around the world where
our government is involved in and they don't want you to know about it.
You know, they are doing uh you know, top secret things there,
whether that's hiding a black pyramid or has something to do with um with intelligence
gathering basically spying, uh those sorts of things, or some other testing that
they don't want us to know about. So yeah, you know, seeing
those those sorts of remains of structures up there is not surprising. And you
know, given the stories that have come out of that area, well,
yeah, I would believe it does have something to do with this, uh,
this supposed black pyramid. It's it's an interesting story, and it'd be
nice if there would be more people that would come forth with some more significant
evidence, because right now we have are these you know anecdotal stories, you
know, right, it's a little bit different than you know, looking at
the uh, you know, the Great Pyramid of Giza and you know,
coming up with different theories as to what it was actually used for. Well,
we can actually see that particular pyramid, where this one in Alaska's is
underground. We can't see it, and you know, we don't have any
photographic evidence of it. So um, so hopefully more people will come forward
on that. Yeah, I mean, if you want to be you know,
brutally honest about that, there's no proof it exists. And being underground
itself is strange considering all the pyramids around the world, and not only just
in Egypt, but in South America and China, maybe even Eastern Europe,
Yugoslavia. These things are above ground and generally pyramid shape, but they all
have their own unique features, especially all throughout Mesoamerica. Well here's why.
I yeah, and actually meso America, South America, that area there in
particular, you know a number of these pyramids. Sure, we've cleaned them
off now and we can see them with our eyes these days. But many
of them, you know, had to be discovered where there was enough vegetation
and dirt and what have you that had grown up over that just looked like
a hill, and you know, it became discovered that, oh, no,
there's actually a pyramid here. So that's why I don't totally discredit the
possibility that, you know, there could be an underground pyramid there, especially
if it's uh, you know, very very ancient. There would be enough
time for uh, you know, for things to build up around it.
So I don't I don't totally discredit it. It's just we don't have the
physical evidence to you to be able to look at the thing and say,
there's the pyramid, know what it was? What was a use for m
besides the pyramid? Um there? You know, again, there are a
lot of stories of Bigfoot throughout Alaska. Uh. In fact, I hate
say it. I hate keep name dropping shows. But there's another show,
Expedition Bigfoot on Discovery that's better than most of the other shows. UM and
their new seasons coming out, and they went up to Alaska this time.
So I'm very curious to see what they've obtained or what they've experienced up there.
But I like their approach how they have the doctor Marina forget our last
name, as the anthropologist, they have the survivalist guy. Um, then
they have your throwing your bigfoot guy for all the for for all the paranormal
stuff. But you know, there are a few shows they've had some really
strange experiences, and so many people have reported experiences up there in Alaska.
And let's face it, it's one of the last big frontiers. There's so
much of the state that's not populated. You have thousands of square miles of
emptiness, so anything. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it's very, very
remote. The entire population of the state is about the population of the city
of San Francisco, and you're talking about an area that is two and a
half times the size of Texas. So yeah, it's very You know,
you have a couple of concentrations of people like Anchorage, Juno, Fairbanks,
that sort of thing, and then everybody else is kind of spread out,
and then of course large large swaths of land in which there's just nothing.
There's areas up there they still don't even have the map. They have some
satellite imagery, but nobody's actually been out there to survey the land, so
that leaves a lot of room for you know, some of these different things
to roam around. So the idea that there may be sasquatch up there,
sure, and that makes sense. Some people believe there may even be pockets
of wooly mammoths still they're roaming around, which would be fascinating if that were
true. I personally find that idea very cool. Yes, absolutely, I'd
love to to run into a wooly mammoth. That'd be great. Uh.
And you hear about you know, they're trying to actually clone wooly mammoth DNA
and create some new wooly mammoths, so um, which it was. It
is interesting because you know, we think of you know, wooly mammoths as
you know, a very ancient type of creature and you long since extinct.
But actually, you know, humans and willy mammoths they were, they lived
together, they roamed around together, you know up there, you know,
fifteen thousand years ago, so it really was not all that long ago.
So if they were to they were to bring them back, here's my thing,
okay, there to bring them back, you know, the cloning,
which would really be like a hybrid because they would mix it with uh,
you know, a type of elephant. And you know, the opponents to
the idea are saying, well, really, you'd have, you know,
a hairy elephant with some additional fat deposits. Well, okay, fine,
but still if they could pull it off and they let the things loose out
there, and let's say they actually found a surviving colony of wooly mammoths,
like, what type of offspring would they make? You know, it would
be interesting to see, you know, and they found an enough um,
what's the word I'm looking for here? I want to say a cadaver,
because it's certainly not a fossil. They've found dead wooly mammoths, surprisingly preserved
yep, with soft tissue. And yeah, I don't remember if they were
able to pull out any viable DNA from that, but I know that I've
heard of the clanning aspect of it. Yeah, yeah, so it's it's
not in the problem is is that because it is degraded DNA. You know,
they don't have a full a full wooly mammoth sequence, but they believe
that they have enough to be able to create some sort of clone of it.
But yeah, they do have soft tissue and what have you around that
is, you know, remnant there under the ice that they've been able to
pull out. And you know, so there's some old stories of like in
the nineteen fifties the Explorers Club actually served some mammoth meat. There was a
pastor early nineteen hundreds who said that he was out exploring and came across a
mammoth in the ice and as his dogs are hungry, slice off some of
the meat and fed it to his dogs. So there's stories like that that
are floating around about these things. Well, actually, it's funny where I
live here in northern New Jersey, there's just a couple of miles from me,
there's an old like pond bog that they even pulled out mastodons. Oh
well, you know, just just a couple of miles away from here from
me. So they're definitely roaming around you in this area. So being up
in a remote area of Alaska, you know, something could be up there
very well hidden and out of the public eye. And it's such an unusual
state, being that it's so remote, it has its own mythology. I
guess you could say, with everything that people experience up there, from ghosts
to a big foot to as you saw, shadow people, are you dealing
with something that's that's a ghost type of creature or entity, or are you
dealing with something that's more along the lines of a time slip, something interdimensional.
I mean, either one of those are in play. I mean we're
talking shadow people there. They are a variety of different things, and it
really depends on that particular shadow because it's just the way that our eyes are
capturing the light from that being or object. So yeah, some of them
could just be a human spirit that can't fully manifest us, an apparition,
could be a time slip, could be an interdimensional being, could be an
extraterrestrial. There's a lot of different possibilities here, which is why I have
a whole book and those beings a walk in the shadows. So yeah,
well, what's your thought up there about vortices and portals possibly to other dimensions
or times or right? Yeah, so really, I mean we're we're really
talking about two different things. It's that vortex energy that can create a portal,
So so yeah, sometimes portals um will spawn up in these areas and
that may be where Alaska. A lot of people go missing up there,
and I understand, you know, some people want to go missing, you
know, some people get kidnapped, some people wander out into the woods,
get eaten by a beare sort of thing. But the the number is very,
very high. When we filmed the television show, the number that we
were giving off was, you know, sixteen thousand people since nineteen eighty eight.
Of course it's been a few years since the show now and that number
has just increased. So um, yeah, you have these people and people
that are found, you know, get get lost in the woods and are
found. Many of them will report things like, um, you know,
they were on the path, they had heard something out in the woods,
and they took two steps off the path, took a peek around, didn't
see anything, turned around to step back on the path, and the path
was suddenly gone. And what happened to it? You know, did they
when they stepped off the path that they stepped through you know, some sort
of portal that took them to you know, another another point in time,
maybe another place out in the woods. And so, you know, there
are some interesting stories there and a lot of these people don't come back at
all. One of the things that we talked about on the Alaska Triangle Show
was the missing Douglas Skymaster from nineteen fifty, which you know, was en
route to Montana, took off from Elmendorf Air Force Base somewhere over Snag in
Yukon Territory. It just completely disappeared and never heard from or scene again.
To this day, they have not found it. And at that point in
time, it was the biggest search and rescue mission that we had in American
history. At that point, we teamed up with Canada because it was actually
technically just over the border into the into their territory. And like I said,
nothing was ever found. One of the ideas is that it may have
slipped through some sort of portal and that it had found itself maybe in another
dimension or perhaps another point in time. And what's fascinating about that is if
it did end up in another point in time going through this portal, and
let's just throughout an arbitrary number, I would just say, what if it
went back like five hundred years in time, Okay, well five hundred years
ago in Alaska with a plane flying overhead, what would that look like to
you know, the Native Inuit that live up there, because they would have
no context, no idea of what an airplane is. You know, they
just see this large thing in the sky with the you know, with the
wings making a lot of noise. So is this where we get some of
the thunderbird legends from? Did they actually witness a modern airplane that came into
the into their point in time and that's what they're reporting as a thunderbird?
So so yeah, it's fascinating. Some of the rabbit holes we could go
down with that, well, definitely a lot of different rabbit holes. I
mean again not just with Alaska, but you know, so many different locations
just in America alone. I mean, look at David Politi's books on missing
for one, one, people who just vanish. You get a line of
people walking, one person right behind another and they turn around and that person
is just suddenly gone. They just saw him a few seconds ago, never
to be found again. Or even the one child who disappeared and then they
searched for days, couldn't find him, and then they found him on top
of a mountain a couple of miles away up up in a location well and
he was deceased, but up on a location where there's no way in hell
was five year old could have climbed up this mountain? Right, So how
did you get there? Yeah, there's a There's another interesting one, and
this was reported in the Anchors Daily News in the two thousand and five,
two thousand and six something like that, where, um, there are these
hunters out near Piltre Mountain And it was it was early May. There's still
snow in the ground, and all of a sudden, this kid appears out
of nowhere. There's no footprints around him at all in the snow. It's
just boof there he is. And they had no idea how he got out
there, and you know, they you know, brought him to safety and
then you know they're asking how did you get out here? You know,
where did you come from? And he had a very very interesting story about
how he had been taken inside the mountain by these by these small beans and
the natives call them their arching hot and he had spent some time inside the
mountain with these beings, and you know, he did not know how much
time had passed or anything like that, but he had met a little girl
there and this little girl supposedly had been there with these beings for forty years,
but she still appeared as a little girl, and at some point in
time the urching hot said okay, well we're going to take you back and
this basically, you know, dump the boy out there right outside the mountain.
So um, yeah, there's some you know, fascinating stories like that
to come out of that area. And that's a modern story. It almost
sounds like, you know, one of the stories from you know, ancient
fairy lure exactly. I was just thinking that, yeah, yeah, and
here it is modern day Alaska. Well, you know, almost every culture
and different continents have stories very similar to creatures like that. You like,
you just mentioned the modern fairy lore over in the UK and Ireland, and
then you have Middle Eastern Gin, you have Icelandic elves. In North Carolina,
they have what they call the little brown people. Just there's these stories
everywhere about these underground dwelling creatures and that seem to work on paranormal slash interdimensional
level. I've done some investigations in some locations and this is another thing that
fascinates me. And I don't know if you would have any stories about it
in terms of Alaska, but dealing with let's say miners in mining or cave
systems where people are deep down in these mines or these caves and they suddenly
start hearing voices or they witness lights or activity where there's nobody there. Nobody
should be there. I investigated a cave system. It's open for the public,
but I got access to it in Colorado, and they confirmed nobody's ever
died in that cave. The Indians never went in there, they never went
as far back in because they were kind of afraid of it. And this
section that I went back into was sterile and so far in a couple of
thousand feet that there's no insects, there's no bugs, there's no rodents,
there's nothing, and nobody died there. And yet we had all of this
paranormal activity happening that just baffled me, from lights appearing in the rocks and
then disappearing on me, to EVPs, intelligent EVPs, one of them saying
get out, um to certain light anomalies. To I mean, it was
just the activity was insane. And yet we're talking about a location where nobody
died. Nobody went in there before the twentieth century. What would be causing
this activity? Another another guy I follow on YouTube and he's just a spelunker.
He's not a paranormal guy. He has a YouTube channel exploring abandoned minds
and mainly in California and Nevada. He goes into these old mines splunking and
he films it. And there were a couple of occasions where he's deep within
these minds that have been abandoned for a hundred years. Nobody's in there but
him, and he catches his like voices talking right next to him. There
just strange activity. So going back to Alaska, since we've been talking about
an underground pyramids and and these little people people disappearing, have you heard stories
of miners or people going into splunking into caves that have experienced similar activity.
Yeah, Alaska has places like that. There's you know, like the old
copper mines and and things like that. Um, you know, even the
Yukon Territory, which is kind of like the edge of the Alaska Triangle.
Uh, you know, they have the old gold mines there. But you
do hear stories like that up there, and um, one of the old
copper mines I forget the exact name of it. Um. You know that
the abandoned buildings, they were supposed to be haunt the minds themselves again kind
of the same thing is um. You know, the miners would hear you
know, strange voices and things like that down inside the mines. But even
you know, above ground in that area, there's a little cemetery that's outside
the town that you know, people will pass by it because there's a there's
a park over there. These days, they'll pass by it to head into
the park. You know, notice it there. They come back out of
the park later and the cemetery's gone. You know, it just disappears.
There's a lot of strange activity. You know, there's there's something to be
said for uh, you know, things that happen underground. And you know,
I think there's you know, ancients, there's ancient energy that we're tapping
into when we dig into these deeper places of the world. Well, when
you mentioned that, the like the cemetery disappearing, and I've heard a lot
of different stories about people driving and then suddenly finding themselves in a completely different
location. There's a town there's um, you know, maybe a gas station
or something and later on they try to go back to the area and there's
nothing there and it's gone. So are we talking about a time slip or
are we talking about parallel realities? You know, are we slipping from one
dimension into another? And it makes me think that these like these minds and
these cave systems or whatever, when you're dealing with something that's intelligent, seems
to have a paranormal quality to it deep underground. I'm not convinced that what
we're dealing with is ghosts or spirits or anything like that. I think we're
dealing with something a very real phenomenon that we don't fully understand. But if
you want to put a term to it, I almost all use the term
interdimensional as a very generic term of what things are coming from. Yeah,
now I agree with you there. You know, whether it's a time slip
or some sort of you're getting a glimpse of another dimension or alternate timeline.
I mean, even our science these days is they're they're showing with different experiments
down in Antarctica that uh, paraviewed scientific paper you know, Annals of Physics.
Uh, and you know they're saying, well, we have a parallel
universe running in reverse time, which is you know, quite fascinating, but
you have to think everything is operating, you know, frequency, resonance,
vibration, and you know time, time doesn't really exist. It's you.
We've we've invented time to describe our reality and to be able to do things
like, um, you know, plant the crops at the right time,
you know, get to uh, you know, get to our job at
the right moment, so our supervisors don't get upset with us any of that
sort of thing. You know, we use it as a tool. But
you know we are as humans. Our consciousness is trapped into the fourth dimension,
but above us the fifth dimension. Well they're able to anybody that is
within that particular dimension is able to uh see time. It's basically like a
physical object, you know, at any moment within what we call the river
of time, I call it stack time. I have my stack time theory,
which is what my latest book is about travels through time. And so
you take a location where you're at, where you're sitting right now, every
moment that has happened is happening and it will happen. Are all happening concurrently
right now, And there are times in which your moment where you're at will
vibrate at the same frequency as another moment in time, and we'll get a
glimpse of the future, the past, you know, maybe some other dimension,
that sort of thing for just a moment, because they happen to be
vibrating on the same frequency for just a moment. And so that I believe
a lot of not all, but you know, a lot of our hauntings
and things like this. Strange things that we see are these where we call
it a time slip or a glimpse into another dimension sort of thing, because
we have all kinds of things that are happening around us that we can see
with our own eyes, as human eye only sees into a very very narrow
band of the light spectrum. So there's so many other things going on around
us that we don't normally see, but the conditions can become right for a
moment in which we do get a glimpse. I totally agree. That's right
in line with my thoughts on a lot of different phenomena, even from like
a ghostly phenomenon. Somebody sees somebody like in Victorian era clothing and they're going
about doing whatever, and people think, Oh, what's the ghost of someone
who's died, they don't know they've died. YadA, yadda, yadda.
What's repeated at nauseum by most of these ghost shows and groups, and which
I really feel is you're dealing with the type of time slip. Whereas you
mentioned, the conditions are right, two different points in time, which,
since they're both happening simultaneously, overlap. If Irene, we're here, she
had a great story of in London, they were looking at a house.
Irene is very sensitive anyway, which would make her more in tune to these
types of things. But she went upstairs and she went to go check out
one of the bedrooms, opened a door and there's an apparition of a woman
in an Aedwardian era maid's clothing. What was significant about it is they both
looked at each other and both of their jaws dropped open in shock they saw
each other, and then the woman vanished. And you know, she and
I have talked about this incident, and she's had a few other incidents very
similar to this many times over the years. I'm just convinced that no,
you're not seeing a ghost, you're seeing another very living breathing person who's just
happens to be occupying a different time period than you, but the conditions were
right, you happen to see each other. Yeah, those moments where you
have, you know, the apparition looking at you as if you are the
ghost. I love those types of stories. And my good friend Andrea Parrin,
who everybody knows from you know, what they call the Conjuring House and
in the first Conjuring movie, which is nothing like what really happened there.
Yeah, but she will say, and We've talked about this many times,
and I've had her on my show and she will say the exact same thing.
And on my Shadow to Mention docuseries she says the same thing, that
the most significant thing that ever happened there was a time slip that was witnessed
where you know, they were looking into the dining room there from the parlor
and all of a sudden morphed into existence. Was you know, a family
from like the seventeen hundreds. There's a woman, you know, cooking over
the hearth, a couple of kids running around. There's two gentlemen sitting at
the table with Peter Stein's and they turn and they look at carol in and
the one says the other where you look at that as if she was the
ghost. So yeah, those moments like that are just absolutely fascinating, And
like you said, I think just adheres to the idea that, yeah,
a lot of a lot of these things are actually time slips. And what's
fascinating. Okay, woman in a Victoria address, you know, looking at
or I guess maybe you said it was Edwardian looking at Irene. Well,
that woman is getting a glimpse of the future in that moment. Well,
not to get too far off off topic, but there was an investigation that
Irene did once over in the UK where cutting to the chase, they were
doing this investigation. They were walking around, she was taking photos. She
walked into the bathroom, which was a small little bathroom, and she took
a photo. Now there was a mirror on the wall that her her flash
went off and she can and you could see her reflect in the mirror,
and yet right behind her where there was no space to move, she captured
this man in what I would refer to it. It almost looked like tactical
style clothing. It looked almost futuristic, but you could relate to it as
being very like a tactical police would wear a military black helmet with a chin
strap, black type fitting top, and he's walking forward with purpose, like
he's walking through a long hallway or something. But it's a tiny, little
five by six bathroom, and he's holding a device in his hand like he's
taking measurements or he's doing something not what you would think of as a typical
ghost. Definitely seems like something that is either parallel universe, similar time period
of ours, or maybe even futuristic, maybe something twenty to fifty years from
now. Right. Yeah, there was a similar vein Jeezus is probably good
twelve years ago. And you know, we were out in a cemetery late
one night, you know, investigators kind of you know, roaming. We
had permission to do. This is Earlsborough, Oklahoma, and one woman there
had captured a photo and she was just getting there's a headstone there and a
big bush kind of encompassing the headstone. And the photo was really really strange
and unusual because in the middle you had it was like this band of electricity
and it kind of stretched out across the right hand side of the photo and
through this kind of stretching stretched out area you could see beyond like some sort
of sitting room, you know, which was really fascinating. Now, this
is a place, it's always been a cemetery. You know, there's nothing
there before, but you know, just land. So yeah, was it
getting a glimpse of another dimension? Was another point in time, like maybe
somewhere in the future, you know, they'll uforego of the cemetery and you
build a house. I have no idea, but it looked like we were
getting at a glimpse through, you know, some sort of portal or dimensional
rift. As the late Douglas Adams once said, time is an illusion,
lunchtime doubly. So yeah, um yeah. The whole thing with time and
our view of it, how our monkey brains are trained to look at everything
just literally literally I can't even talking, you know what I mean. And
it was really thank you, you know, from beginning to end, and
where everything else is just so much more fluid and walky, and you know,
we've got a few minutes left. The one other topic I wanted to
talk about in regards to Alaska is the idea of UFOs, or people having
encounters with extraterrestrial beings. Yeah, yeah, Alaska's pretty rife with the UFO
activity. It makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it's a pretty remote
area, so if the ETS wanted to set up bases or things like that
up there, it would be pretty easy. So there's a lot of speculation
about bases under the water there, which would be like USOS Mount Hayes in
Alaska, which has a lot of reports of UFO activity around it. The
famous remote viewer Pat Price had had few basically a installation in which the military
and ETS were working together. But yeah, I mean you have reports there,
you know, not just civilian reports, but military reports. You have
one of the most significant UFO reports with commercial airlines up there, the JA
the Japanese Airlines flight in nineteen eighty six. So yeah, there's a lot
going on up there concerning UFOs and ETS. It's uh, it's fascinating,
and I mean there's so many reports from all over the US. But again,
Alaska just seems to be a special place, being such a mountainous region,
being all the different valleys, as you said, all the different g
magnetical UM anomalies that have been categorized there. Um, if there was one
story that impressed you the most, about Alaska. What would you say it
was that you've heard of. Oh my gosh, Uh, that one's that
one's hard because there's a lot of really interesting stories up there. Again,
I think a lot of it is that the disappearances, you know, even
the really famous one nineteen seventy two with Hail Boggs and Nick Baggitch. You
know, Hail Boggs was a House Majority leader at the time. You have
a very very high profile politician, uh, you know, somewhere between Anchorage
and Juno completely disappeared. To this day, have no nothing in regards to
it. Um. You know, they even because of how profile it was.
Uh, you utilize spy planes and in all kinds of things to try
to find out what happened to them. Yeah, that's over fifty years ago
now and they still have not found like even one shred of evidence of it
even going down and crashing, not a thing. Incredible. Well, the
book is Alaska's Mysterious Triangle. And we've been talking with Mike Ricksecker. And
now your newest book, you say, is coming out when August first.
It's Travels Through Time. It's available for preorder right now. So if you
got to Amazon Barnes and Noble what have you that is available for pre order
at this time, so jump on it. Well, that one. I'm
very interested because this whole idea you just mentioned was called stacked time, really
intrigues me. So we'll definitely have you back on sounds good. Like you
said, I think we just scratched the surface of talking about the differences in
time, So looking forward to that. Where else can people find you?
Yeah, you can find me Mike Ricksecker dot com. That's my personal website,
and then I have an online learning portal called Connected Universe Portal dot com
which people can find me out there as well. We have a lot of
things going on besides the books. Who also have like tours to Egypt and
things like that, which that information is available out there as well. Fantastic
Well, Mike, thank you very much for coming on the show today and
this has been fascinating and can't wait to talk to you again soon. Absolutely
can't wait. And I want to thank everybody for tuning into another edition of
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