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This is Eye on the Ball with
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Welcome to Eye on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve

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Rivera, He's Jagan Zalaz and today
we have one and today Survival of the

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plane. Right plane jump. He
jumped out of a plane, Steve,

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Uh, for fun, for fun. Yeah, he didn't have to,

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he didn't get he didn't get thrown
out like that guy in scarface or anything.

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I mean, he just jumped from
a plank. He paid someone to

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do that. Yeah, it was
great, and you got down. I

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was gonna strive into the studio today. Yeah, well we didn't know you

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were coming in today. Well we're
starting. We're at about eight minutes.

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Tell him like, I think I
killed and nobody told us mister survived.

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Yeah, be good today, Good
for you, Good for you. Uh

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super and maybe you'll do it again
soon. And now we'll just skydive our

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way into Friday. We have a
pretty good show. I don't know if

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you knew that. But we have
pretty good shot. Three good guests.

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Yes, our usual guy, Jake
Fisher. Early in the first hour,

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he's excited. We haven't had him
on in a couple of weeks, and

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the big twelve is first thing.
His name was mentioned yesterday. I'm gonna

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tell him why. Uh. And
then in the the second second guy is

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gonna be your a d asue a
d No. The second guy is Brian

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Howe. No, no, no, that's right. Oh I put the

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wrong time in our in our social
media. He's at three forty five,

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not bad, so, so we
have a issue. Fix that right now.

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We have a issue a d uh
Graham Rosini. Uh, he's not

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even been there two months, maybe
a couple of months. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, So we'll break down his
situation, invite him to come and

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visit us anytime and Tuesday tuson when
he has a chance. Oh, but

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sure, he'll be for a basketball
game or two. And then the third

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hour we have Brian Howe from the
Colorado newspaper that covers uh dion, So

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we'll have him on to see how
the year has been for him, and

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then how he's kind of handled or
how they've handled each other. Yes,

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uh, because there's still a lot
of stuff going on now with Dion.

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Yeah, yeah, you know.
Yeah, look, there's always gonna be

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stuff going on with Dion, right, so, uh, you know it's

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it's got to be I don't know
if you call it as it's just got

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to be interesting to be covering him, whether it's fun or not. You

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know, it might not be fun, it might be something else. It

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might be a lot of work,
it might be challenging, it might be

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a lot of things, but it's
probably for sure interesting. Yeah, right,

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and then and then you know,
as a reporter, that's kind of

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what you know, you're always hoping
for. You know, you want your

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teams to win because they're more interesting. You want your h you know,

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you want your coaches to you know, not be dry because it makes them

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more interesting. So probably you know, probably good. Yeah, okay,

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no, cool. So this should
be a nice way to the week.

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It's been a pretty good week.
Yesterday show is very fun and uh,

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and we'll wrap it up now.
Did JB send you some stuff? Yes,

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I'm pointing it up as we speak
because I completely forgot about it.

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Okay, so we'll do that.
He did send it to me and we'll

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help him out. I know he's
trying to get some publicity through the papers

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and locals for his basketball camp.
If you have any questions just about the

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camp, just send us to send
it to us, yeah, or we'll

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we'll pass it up. We're gonna
put this stuff up up on Facebook and

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Twitter right now because I completely forgot
to do that, and we promised him

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we would and I'm just a big
giant turn for not doing it. But

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here we go. I'm getting it
up there. Okay, Okay, it

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sounds like you're the one that jumped
off the plane. Dude. You know

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what, I don't know what it
is. It's been about these last twenty

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four hours, but you know,
I'm staying. You know, I'm going.

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I'm going to a meeting and beyond
Brad, I've got a guy with

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me that I'm meeting with, and
I'm on the phone with somebody else.

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It's like, it's just the nuts. It's just been crazy. So here

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I am. But I'm here.
I'm here, Okay, and so is

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and so is. Uh. It
was one because we were concerned about whether

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or not he would be I appreciate
that we at all points but yeah,

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we were so concerned. He was
ready to do the the the breaking news,

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that's all he was concerned about that. Yeah, I thought he's not

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coming. I got to go up
breaking news and find that word of his

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parents. Yeah, I was.
Yeah. My first worry was not where

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are they going to put him?
My first worry was, oh, no,

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I got breaking news to do well. And the first even that not

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where he landed, not where we're
gonna put him. It's not where he

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landed. We didn't care about that, right, and not where they're gonna

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put you. Well, it's too
late for that, and now breaking news,

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so you're like third string, third
stow, third string. No,

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we're happy to have you. I'm
taking that starting spot. Thank you very

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much. Well, good to have
you again again. Today is Friday,

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big show. Obviously not a whole
lot after the big twelve press conference,

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right, yeah, stuff, I
think things have quieted down. Uh you

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know, it's it's we're kind of
going into this time now where everybody's kind

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of gathering themselves, getting ready for
fall practices to start, maybe taking some

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vacations that kind of stuff to get
ready because then now you know, once

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it gets busy, it gets busy, and it's days busy, you know,

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for till May. Right, Oh
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It starts in mid August, doesn't
until like mid April unless the teams

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go deep into the tournament right in
in May. Yeah, so so it's

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going to be busy for a while. So I think, you know,

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people kind of kind of gather themselves, you know, right now as we

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need to. I kind of need
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you know, you know, so, yeah, so it kind of like

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everything now. There's gonna be some
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yeah, You've got I think,
well, who's left the SEC, the

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Big ten and the a CEC.
I don't know who. I think I'm

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gonna say that SEC is next week, followed by the ACC and the Big

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Ten the week after. So,
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the Big twelve was very smart on
what they did in going first. Everybody

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talked about them all this week.
You know, there were a lot of

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stories that came out of there,
the Mike Goudney story for better for worse

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in the national media. The national
media was there break your mark talking about

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we're still open for business, you
know, the four Pac twelve schools were

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now in the Big ten, got
a lot of got a lot of play.

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You know, there was the media
poll. It was just a lot

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of stuff that came out about the
Big twelve, and it was, you

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know, all all the college football
talk was about the Big twelve because the

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SEC and the other schools were not
doing their media day. So I thought

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it was very smart of them to
do that. Again, probably another thing

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that was just what your mark is
creating over there, guys, we need

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to be out of front on sure, very he's very impressive. I know.

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I think you hit it on the
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Uh, cocky, a little arrogant, very very fourth rightI ish uh

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And it came off a little whatever. But now he's your whatever and you

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like it right right. We thought
he was a kind of an arrogant jerk

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when when he was when he was
battling the Pack twelve, and now that

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he's not battling the Pac twelve,
we're one of him where you know,

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he's our arrogant. You want that
guy, Yeah, we want that guy.

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It's like we haven't had that guy. It's like you have there.

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You hiring an attorney and I'll say, a divorce attorney you have and your

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ex has that attorney. Yeah,
he says, how come I didn't get

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her, right, or I didn't
get him, and now you have him

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and you think there's go after that, you know. I mean, look,

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look, I know Larry Scott wasn't
from California, but he was very

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California like, laid back, you
know, l a kind of guy,

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la San Francisco kind of guy,
just throwing money all over the place,

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arrogant from the standpoint of things like
having an entourage, spending you know,

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three thousand dollars a night for his
hotel rooms, those kind things. Where

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he was he just he just tried
to have an aura about him without really

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doing anything. And then George laugh
didn't have the aura, but also very

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low key and passive and all that
got the packed. The funny thing about

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with the playoff, Cough is very
low key passive. Yet I guess behind

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the scenes when he was getting offered
this money and he was saying, no,

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we could do better, getting screwed
by himself because he was over stating

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himself or overstayed in the product.
Well, everybody, yeah, the whole,

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the whole, the whole pack twelve
was doing that. And and you

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know, whether it was the the
the President's residents or whoever, they were

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all doing that. Yeah. Okay, so we'll get to some of that

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with the A s U A d
uh later this this hour. Right in

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a few few minutes, get to
Jake and talk about what's going on.

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I mentioned his name was thrown out
there yesterday. I'm curious what his thoughts

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are anything else. Soccer starts here
pretty soon, right about a month the

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season starts. Yeah, less than
a month weeks away. Yeah, you

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got to get her cab. I'm
sorry. And I actually looked this up

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and said, I'm gonna ask you. Have you looked up when you have

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a football practice start. No,
no, I'm assuming it's like the twenty

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sixth or something like that, or
even before that. Okay, No,

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I haven't. I haven't received it
anything. I don't think. Well,

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first off, they got practice and
this is damn high. Now was that

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the okay you we went home at
the same time. Was that the hardest

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rain last night that you've ever driven
in? No? No, there's been

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worse. I think, uh ten
years ago if I can remember correctly.

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But but it wasn't as bad as
you probably had it because I was going

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into it a lighter rain. You
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but it did hit me as hard
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you're I go home. It was
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Fort loll Swan River Road over Topino
Canyon Road down. So I'm going up

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Swan and I can't see. I
literally there's a car in front of me,

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okay, you know, And I
could see his lights also in that

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car was gone and I was still
there, but I couldn't see it anymore.

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You No, I didn't get and
I was gonna I thought, are

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you supposed to pull over here or
not? If I pull over, nobody's

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gonna see me. So I just
kind of kept going. I slowed down.

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I was probably going fifteen miles an
hour going up Swan. Yeah,

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I could not see. And then
I turned on the river road. I

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thought, wait a minute, why
are you going on this road in this

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storm? But you know what,
it's a pretty good shape as far as

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drainage goes. There weren't any big
big I could not the river. I

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couldn't see the river. I was
seriously That's when That's when I could.

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As I was coming up to the
bridge to go over the river, that's

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when I couldn't see. So I
couldn't see the river. Yeah, I

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was going away from I was going
away from it. So Steve, I've

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been here, Okay, I've been
driving fifty years in this town close to

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it, and I've never ever in
this town driven in rain like that as

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I did yesterday in that stretch from
Fort Lowe, from Fort Lowell to River

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Road on Swam, I could not
purposely or were you in nineteen eighty four,

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We'll see that that was a hard
rain, but it wasn't blowing,

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and it wasn't so hard that you
couldn't see. It just rained a long,

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long, long time. In four
eighty three, eighty three fled I

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covered a lot of that. I
was working cops at that time, so

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I covered a lot of that and
I was out in it because I was

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working for the newspaper. And that
was different than that was different. That

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was a different rain. That was
just like a hard winter rain, but

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not not where you get out of
the car and you drench. I mean,

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it just rained for a long time, is what it'd been. And

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it rained steady for a long time
without stopping. That's why we fled.

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The thing that hit me was the
last week when the and you saw this

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probably on the news, the down
power lines on Aina. It was like

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a big thunder boom and it just
knocked like the house and knocked off its

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foundation. But all the wiring on
Aina was knocked down. The so like

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a few poles. They closed down
the streets. Yeaha yahda And I hadn't.

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I hadn't been through that in my
time here where it was just crazy.

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They were just kind of like the
sticks, little small sticks. So

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you know it's not the world is
changing, yeah yeah this none, this

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none, Yeah, global work is
effectiveness. Okay, before we go political

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exactly, but you know it was. It was crazy. I've never been

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anything like it. But where this
is? That's I mean. I was

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happy, right, I got to
turn off my sprinklers again. Dame in

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the and so needs water? Yeah
so drenching. Yeah, okay again if

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you want to call, we have
no time right now. But before we

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get to to Jake, but five
to four forty we had a good show,

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I thought yesterday with the with the
rafts. Some conversations after with other

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people that I spoke to a good
call or two about it. So you

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know that was a good off topic, off off our usual topics. Yes,

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yeah, uh, you know,
I think people appreciate again that we

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on. You know that call.
You know, we've got a caller who

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out there and you you can be
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a ref. And it's just something
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do it, you gotta do it
right. Okay, Hey, let's just

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go to a breakdow because we're down
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Steve Rivera and Jagen Saliz they have
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were you a football player? How
you doing, Jake? No, fantastic,

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It's Friday. How are you guys? We're doing well. Glad that

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you're not in the mountains or wherever
you go because there's no phone service.

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Seriously, I bet you wish you
were, though, don't you. Yeah,

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it's one hundred and thirteen up here
right now. We'll get used to

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it. Get used to it.
Hey, So, I'm sure you kept

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abreast of what was going on in
the Big Twelve and you read everything on

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your Twitter thing. Any surprises some
of the first second team, you know,

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the all Big twelve teams, you
know, I'm surprised, Actually,

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I'm not surprised. They have Dura
as the number one quarterback. I knew

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they were going to do that.
I don't know what it is with their

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fascination with Colorado and Dion and all
those guys, but I definitely thought that

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Noah deserved to get the nod to
get number one. At least the publication

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I read they had Shader's number one, and then you know the EA Sports

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stuff, the fact that you have
Travis Hunter as the number one rated receiver

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in the conference as a joke.
I mean, there's so much stuff.

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And the fact is, you know
a lot of these guys they don't you

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know, they might favor one conference
over the other. You know, they

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did their homework on one and they
didn't really look into another guy. But

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I mean, if you're going to
be doing these ratings, you got to

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do them fair. And that might
just be you know, hometown biased.

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But the fact that you don't have
Tmac is the number one receiver, that

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just blows my mind. Yeah,
no, I think you know, and

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I've been saying from eleventh, yeah
exactly. You know, they've got these

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two first run NFL Draft picks,
but you think they're they're the two best

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players. But yeah, you're picking
them to finish eleventh in the league.

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So what are you doing? And
yeah, who picked them eleven? The

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media? The media, Well,
the media doesn't know what the hell they're

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talking about now, you guys.
But I was talking about the media poll

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had had Colorado in eleventh and Arizona
in fifth, and I'm like, Okay,

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so how good of a coach are
you or do they think you are?

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If you've got a first round NFL
quarterback and a first round NFL wide

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receiver or cornerback and you're still picking
him to finish, you know, they

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still think you're the eleventh place team
in the league. I don't know.

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I just know they're going to finish
above ASU everyone else. It doesn't really

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matter to me. I know Arizona's
going to be higher than five. I

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know that Colorado and ASU are going
to be towards the bottom, you know,

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in order for you to have two
potential first rounders. And like on

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Twitter, I see a bunch of
stuff saying like, hey guys, it's

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time for you to start tanking because
Shadur is coming and all this other stuff.

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It's like, and your pick to
be eleventh in the league, and

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the league is like, you know, it's not top heavy, but it's

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not like you know, you don't
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still you shouldn't be picked eleven if
you got the much talent on your roster.

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Yeah, and especially if beyond's this
like you know this this heralded coach

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and you know you're supposed to have
like a top two class in terms of

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you know, transfers and whatnot.
The fact that you get chosen eleven,

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that's just a joke. And you
know you have all these ratings and you

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have the first teamers and all this
stuff. It just blows my mind.

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Yah, what did you make of
the event Gandhi or the the Gundhi stuff

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with Oklahoma State and they're running back? Well, I think it was stupid

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what he said. I mean,
keep that crap to yourself. You don't

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want people thinking that it's okay to
drink and drive and do all that crap.

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I mean, you know, you
have a ton of these coaches who

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literally work tirelessly and it's like every
now and then they like to grab a

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beer. But don't say it's what
you guys do. You know, don't

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the fact that you literally just basically
gave the kid a pass. You know,

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I understand having a couple of beers, But the one thing is what

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you got to remember is there's no
easier way to get home. Now.

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You got you know, you got
uber, you got Lyft, you got

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all this stuff. So don't send
a dumb mess message like that. I

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mean that was just stupid for him
to utter. Well, and you think

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about this. You know Andy Reid's
kid, right, the Kansas City coach.

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You killed a kid or not.
I didn't almost killed a kid.

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You aimed a kid because he was
drunk going home from work. Not even

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just out, you know, at
a bar. He was going home from

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work, hammered. And so you
have that happening in football. And yet

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you you come out of your mic
gun and you say that, I mean,

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I just thought, man, and
I'll tell you what he's really being

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ripped. But the point I was
making, Yes says he doesn't give a

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crap what anybody thinks about that.
Oh no, you can tell he doesn't.

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And he's got such good job security. I mean, he probably just

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says crap like that all the time
and he gets away with it. He's

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a hell of a coach. But
I mean, you got to set an

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example for these guys. And you
know, a lot of the times when

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you're recruiting some of these folks,
they don't come from the best homes.

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They don't come from you know,
families that you know they have the whole

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nucleus there. And you know,
some of these guys, it doesn't matter

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where they're from. They might not
have a father figure. And when you

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do that he was the head coach
or he was a position coach. You

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come out and you say something stupid
like that, it's not going to reflect

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well on you. Yeah. Yeah, so let me ask you to tell

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you this. We had some guys
who referee football games here in town,

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have been doing it for a long
time, and I asked him, do

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you guys you know, you guys
are human. Do you guys watch the

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plays in addition to cover the plays
in terms of what they're what they have

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to do as a job. He
says, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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you know, how could you not
watch a lot of Falcon's South Point?

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Guy? Uh? And then then
you mentioned Jake Fisher. I think Jake

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Fisher's in the sentence with yea with
Roberts, I'm thinking you were a stunt.

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There is no way in hell I
should be mentioned that kid. That

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kid is freaking all world. I
made it to college just by working hard

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with that dude. He worked his
tail off. He's got all the guy

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given talent, and I mean he's
as a first rounder and then he looked

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that good as a rookie even though
he was hurt most of the year.

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But oh, man, I mean, keep my name out of your mouth.

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Ja. No, man, you
need to ride that one for as

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long as you possibly can. He
literally said, you know, I guess

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that's fraulent. I can't do that. You might be related to you.

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But let me say this. I
said, because we know you were good,

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how many how many Division one teams
were coming after you one and and

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this is another point I made,
you could be You could be Jake Fisher

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and be overlooked by so many and
have all this time. You know it's

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the two star Scoobs and all that
stuff. Yeah, I mean two star

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Scoob. That was a that was
a whole different animal. I mean the

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fact that that dude reached the heights
that he did. And I think Arizona

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was his only major Division on offer. No. I had all the schools

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coming after me at the beginning,
and then a lot of schools ended up

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visiting. It was at the same
time that Adam Hall was getting recruited,

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and every single time after they left
my school, they said I was too

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small to be, you know,
a linebacker Division one. So I only

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ended up getting offers like legit offers
in terms of like Power five schools by

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Arizona, Utah, and Colorado.
And then I had all those you know,

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other you know, smaller Mountain West
schools and stuff like that, kind

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of waiting to see if those guys
were not going to allow me to commit,

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you know, if the offers were
not committable anymore. So, you

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know, I had all those schools. You know, I got everyone that

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is a Division one player gets random
mail. That doesn't you know, it

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doesn't really mean anything, right,
I learned that, but I mean,

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yeah, those three schools were the
only Power of five schools. And then

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at the last second, Utah called
my coach and said that my offer is

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uncommittable because they filled up their linebacker
class essentially when they offered me. It

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was kind of like, hey,
you're either committing now or we're going to

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you know, drop your scholarship.
So really it came down Arizona Colorado guys.

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Well, okay, well I'm still
proud of you. Go on,

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Jake, I'm you know what I
let you know, we thought cool,

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he mentioned a guest on our show
with b John Robinson. That's how we

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took that. So we were you
know we're we're happy to hear your name

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in there. Well, you know
what your guys show is going to make

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it if you guys can get bees
on on. We tried, tried,

408
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We have tried to believe it or
not. Hey. So you know one

409
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of the things that that you know, we talked about and that I talked

410
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about we've been talked about again today
is you know when when we were kind

411
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of when PAC twelve was going through
its stuff and the Big twelve was stepping

412
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on the PAC twelve's neck and the
Big everybody and then and we thought what

413
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.920
a jerk Brent Brett Yormark is.
And then now that he's our commissioner,

414
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we're like, Okay, he's our
jerk, and we're happy to have him

415
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:37.079
because I feel like we've got a
commissioner that's fighting for the conference and trying

416
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to do things as opposed to what
we've had before. How do you feel

417
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:45.799
about that? I like it.
I like it. The media day,

418
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he said Arizona was the top priority
of the four corner schools because you know,

419
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it's a college town, which damn
near every single Big twelve school is

420
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a college town. You don't have
professional sports there. You got to you

421
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know, a community that's proud of
the university. Obviously, it's the best

422
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:06.440
basketball league in the entire country bar
none. There's literally no competition when it

423
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:08.200
comes to that. And the fact
that we had a hell of a football

424
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:11.640
team last year, so you know, I know that he I know that

425
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.680
football drives in most of the revenue, but you know, it says something

426
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:19.000
to have the best basketball league.
And then the fact that he's being aggressive

427
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.359
going out and trying to get even
bigger brands to bring into the Big twelve

428
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.799
family. You know, he's a
businessman, he's not you know, he's

429
00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.880
basically not taking any days off.
You know. Obviously the last to Pack

430
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:36.119
twelve commissioners basically it was almost like
they were just you know, part of

431
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.519
a you know, part of the
country club and they didn't want to go

432
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.680
out, get dirty and work and
this dude. You know, it's nice

433
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.480
feeling wanted, right, especially when
stuff like this happens. For us to

434
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be in a position to be one
of the top dogs to get you know,

435
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:53.880
basically to move over into a new
conference. You know, it just

436
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:57.559
goes to show that we set ourselves
up to you know, because there's going

437
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:00.359
to be more expansion. There's going
to be you know, the acc is

438
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:04.279
plug gonna end up blowing up.
I'm just happy that we're set for that

439
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:10.079
next round of movement because we're gonna
be you know, we're gonna get more

440
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:14.559
money. You know, we're still
going to be attractive to players in the

441
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:18.720
state of Texas, probably even further
east now. And basketball is going to

442
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:21.880
continue doing what it does. And
you know, I think coach Brennan and

443
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:25.759
those guys are set up to take
a football program into kind of a you

444
00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:30.119
know, a new level, completely
off the wall. I just thought of

445
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.400
this. It just came to me. I get ideas like this all the

446
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.440
time. Would you like to see
Nebraska get back into the Big twelve.

447
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:42.920
I would like to see Nebraska just
have a freaking winning season at this point.

448
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.160
I know Matt Rules a hell of
a coach. If they had a

449
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.279
decent quarterback last year, they probably
would have won seven or eight games.

450
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.799
Like that's how insane it was.
Like, I think they were second in

451
00:28:53.000 --> 00:29:00.759
entire country in terms of turnovers and
their quarterbacks were absolutely awful. You know,

452
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.559
every now and then they'd get a
deep ball because the defense would get

453
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.480
sucked up because they didn't think we
could throw it, and then our receiver

454
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.599
was just fast enough to run under
it and catch it. But you know,

455
00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.440
the fact of the matters, I'd
like to see them get to a

456
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.200
couple of bowl games because, I
mean, they're set up for the future

457
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.640
really nice. They got a couple
of really good recruiting classes going, They

458
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:19.079
have a lot of good players.
They've been able to attract a lot of

459
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.720
really good transfers, and I think, not ruling those guys are going to

460
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.880
turn it around. But I'd just
like to see them have a couple of

461
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.839
winning seasons. Obviously them being in
the Big twelve. Getting to see my

462
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.000
school and then obviously the school that
my entire family roots for play against each

463
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.759
other, that would be pretty cool, though, Yeah, no question.

464
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:38.200
I I don't know, I felt
I needed to ask you that, but

465
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:41.400
I just, you know, it's
just it hasn't gone well for Nebraska since

466
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.319
they went to the Big Ten.
You know, we talked about, you

467
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.720
know, getting a little too big
for good. The first few years were

468
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.960
good, and then they'd win ten
games and then Nebraska fans would be like,

469
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:56.519
well, this isn't Nebraska football.
We're supposed to be competing for Natties

470
00:29:56.920 --> 00:29:59.799
and then the next two coaches they
brought in kind of just ran it into

471
00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:03.880
the Yeah. Yeah, so we've
talked about this. I think maybe a

472
00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:08.440
time or two with you before.
Fifth place in the Big twelve probably better

473
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:12.599
than that, don't you think.
Yeah. I think we're you know,

474
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.799
at least top three, and I
think we're one of the only two or

475
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:23.440
three that actually have a legit chance
to win the league because because you've got

476
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.640
the quarterback that's been there, you've
got the offensive line that's been there,

477
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.240
with the exception of obviously one of
those starting five, you've got a really

478
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.599
solid running back room. Other than
Temac. The receivers, you know,

479
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.000
they got to step up. But
I think the I think this new coaching

480
00:30:37.000 --> 00:30:40.319
staff is going to find a way
to do it. And then look on

481
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:42.480
the defensive side of the ball,
as long as that defensive line you know,

482
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.480
can rush the passer, which,
by the way, Dwaynea Keina is

483
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.000
one of those guys that knows how
to use the safeties to you know,

484
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.880
throw in the blitz packages and get
to the quarterback. But you got probably

485
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:56.880
the best linebacker in the entire conference. I think the best secondary in the

486
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.200
conference. You know, aside from
maybe Kansas by if we can fill that

487
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:04.880
one corner slot and we can put
a composite linebacker there next to Jacob Manu,

488
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:07.839
you know, I don't see a
reason why we couldn't have just as

489
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.079
good of a defense, and then
I think our offense is going to be

490
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.200
the exact same. Yeah, I
mean why not. Yeah, we're talking

491
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:18.799
to Arizona line former Arizona linebacker Jake
Fisher. What did you think of Jacob

492
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.559
Manu by the end of the year, right, I mean he just came

493
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.839
on. I mean by the end
of the year he was like a great

494
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.599
linebacker, not just a really good
linebacker. Yeah, I said it.

495
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.839
There's been three, you know,
a couple of different tiers, but there's

496
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:41.200
been three linebackers since my senior year
in college that I've seen that can walk

497
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.359
in as a freshman and play right
away. Obviously Scooby, who I ended

498
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.720
up playing with, and then the
next year he just kind of took off

499
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.559
of the life of his own.
It was just ridiculous how crazy he went.

500
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:53.720
Then you had Colin Schooler, and
then you have Jacob Manu. I

501
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:59.359
think Manu and Scooby are kind of
in a tier by themselves. You know,

502
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:04.039
I think Schooler basically didn't have the
defensive line to keep him, you

503
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:07.240
know, clean. But I mean
those two are unbelievable. I mean,

504
00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.039
he scrapes off of off of,
you know, the line really well.

505
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.839
He knows how to get off blocks. He can do better, which he

506
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.559
said in his interview, But you
know, he sticks you. He's very

507
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.119
instinctual. He just kind of is
always around the ball. And you know,

508
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:23.880
as an inside linebacker kind of the
leader of that defense, if you

509
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.759
don't see him around the ball,
there's something wrong. Yeah, So the

510
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.920
fact that he's always there, he
hits you, and you know he kind

511
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.039
of knows what he's doing. And
the fact is, you know, towards

512
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:37.440
the end of the year and some
of those blitz packages, i mean,

513
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.039
he looked awesome. So I'm excited
to see him and we might have two

514
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:45.119
more years of him, So you
know, that's awesome. Do you zero

515
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:50.200
in on him? Do you watch
him when you're watching the game, Yeah,

516
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.960
of course, I mean you know
that. I mean imagine just going

517
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:58.880
through five years of doing nothing but
watching you know yourself on film and watching

518
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:01.160
whoever the hell you're back BI is
or whoever's in front of you. I

519
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:04.880
mean that's kind of you know where
you gravitate towards. I mean, you

520
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.039
talk to anybody else. I'm that
played and you know, played a lot

521
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:12.079
at the college level. That's probably
the first thing they look at. You

522
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.200
know, you watch a game and
it's like, all right, well what

523
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.200
is he doing? And then if
you watch a replay, then you watch

524
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.200
other things. But yeah, ike
and on the linebackers. Okay, so

525
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:23.640
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All right, guys, see it
he will guys. Jack Fisher,

541
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Hey, we'll take the break because
we've got to take some time and then

542
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get come back talk and then we're
gonna get right. We're gonna get Graham

543
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Rosini, the athletic director at ACE. You had three forty five. He's

544
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gonna call in. So I had
to correct that on social media. I

545
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butchered that again. So anyways,
we'll have a chat with the ACU athletic

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575
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welcome back to One in the Ball
here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

576
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I'm Steve, He's Jay. We
have one with us. We have sixteen

577
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minutes. We actually have might maybe
four. We're expecting a call from the

578
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A D. Right from the A
C A D. Graham Rosini's supposed to

579
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.400
call in here in the next five
minutes. Or so, you know,

580
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.960
they're going through a lot of the
stuff that is going through. They're going

581
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.639
through the transition going to the Big
twelve. They've got their own financial challenges

582
00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:21.159
going on, a lot of things. You know. Look, you know

583
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.639
it's very similar to what what we're
going through down here. So be interesting

584
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:27.920
to see new a d right.
I mean there's two new athletic directors.

585
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:30.920
That's the two at the at the
these two Arizona schools, right right,

586
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:36.039
Well, we'll see kind of what
his message is and hoping to move forward

587
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:37.719
as the boss. Yeah, Now
he's a guy who's been in the department

588
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:43.000
for a while, right, He's
he's you know, hired from within.

589
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.920
So but you know what, what
are the challenges he's facing. I guess

590
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:49.199
what, you know, what we're
able to talk about. We're only gonna

591
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:51.639
have about ten minutes with him,
so it's kind of going to kind of

592
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:55.400
go fast. But we'll see what
what we can we can get from from

593
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:59.880
that. You know, I'm most
interested in kind of the logistics of what

594
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.599
are going through. You know,
all these schools are going through to move

595
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:06.519
to the Big twelve, right,
they got to do everything. I gotta

596
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.800
put new logos on everything, logos, on the fields, logos, on

597
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:12.920
the courts, logos, on the
letterhead. You know, I mean just

598
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:19.599
the massive amount of stuff that's got
to be done to make this transition.

599
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.199
Yeah, you know that that's a
I mean, there's a lot of work

600
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:27.440
that takes place, and it's just
for survival, right, just to stay

601
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.000
where you are, right, just
to stay where you are. Yeah.

602
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.840
No, it's tough. You know, it's like a middle class family who's

603
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.079
trying to get by but save a
little money. Yeah, good luck with

604
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:38.800
that, because you're just trying to
survive day to day exactly, and you're

605
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:43.199
buying new houses all the time,
right, right, right, I mean

606
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.599
they're having to put into you know, everybody's having to put stuff into facilities.

607
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:50.719
They just redid their stadium. There's
just a lot of stuff. And

608
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:54.320
I don't know these jobs, Steve, you know, these ad jobs aren't

609
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.880
what they used to do. No, of course, you're not what you

610
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.079
signed up, right, You're not
just managing the sport now, You're you're

611
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:06.000
managing you know, the facility of
war. You're managing you know, situation

612
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.519
where you've got to start paying players. You gotta set you gotta set money

613
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:13.239
aside to do that, and that
means you got to go raise more money.

614
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:16.159
And and you know they talk about
how you know, head coaches,

615
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:21.400
particularly head football coaches and basketball coaches, you know, they spend as much

616
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.079
time you know, on the outside
stuff as they do, you know,

617
00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:25.760
on the court. Yeah, you
know, yeah, no, no,

618
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:30.760
it's they get paid pretty handsomely to
do this job, right, But it

619
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.719
ain't a fun job. It's not
easy. That's job it used to be.

620
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:36.039
Maybe I don't even know. I
don't think it was ever easy,

621
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:38.440
you know, but it's just different. But there's just more to so much

622
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:43.079
more to it anymore. And I
don't know, we'll see, I guess,

623
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.159
you know, if you're a new
if you're a new a d like

624
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:49.920
he is, Yeah, this is
what you signed up for. But you

625
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:52.159
know, if you were alive and
good, right and had been in the

626
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.920
business for you know, so many
years, and all of a sudden it

627
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:59.239
becomes this, that's not what you
signed up for, right, And we'll

628
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.400
talk about that too, hopefully you
have some time, you know, ten

629
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:06.480
minutes. Yeah, So you know, it's a I don't know, man,

630
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:08.880
it's it's it's such a whole different
world. And for us too,

631
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:12.760
Steven more than here talking about study. What the hell do we know about

632
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:16.800
the finances of athletic department? Right
right? No, I remember back in

633
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.400
the day, you know, they
had this budget of what twenty five million

634
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.199
through that basketball only, But now
it's it's all these sports that you have

635
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:29.159
to survive. They just added triathlon
right US ago, and now we wonder

636
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.599
how long is that going to be, right and other sports along with it,

637
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:36.719
because how are you going to come
up with paying these these these moneys

638
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:40.119
and maybe scholarship reductions in football because
now you don't have to worry about title

639
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:44.119
nine or you know what I'm saying
this the the back and forth or the

640
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.480
or the the waging weighing of events. You've got to be really smart to

641
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:52.039
be in one of these jobs.
Uh and uh you know, I mean,

642
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.760
you know grammar scene, he's got
a you know, business degree,

643
00:40:55.880 --> 00:41:01.079
he's got an MBA. You know, I mean you you can't just go

644
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:06.199
in there and wing these jobs anymore, because there's one there's a lot at

645
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:08.079
stake. Let's see if the bone's
ringing? U see if that's him?

646
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:12.360
Hi? This is iron? The
ball? Is this Graham? Yes,

647
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.519
it is Hi? Graham. How
are you doing? This is Jay Gonzales.

648
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:15.800
I got my partner Steve Rivera here. Thank you for calling me in.

649
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.840
We appreciate it. Oh my pleasure. Thanks for having me. Just

650
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.840
one quick question. How is it
being in the Big twelve like everybody else?

651
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.559
Yeah, we're excited. It was
it felt real this week when we're

652
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:31.840
up in Vegas and you kind of
saw these logos around us that we're we're

653
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.360
right around the corner. So it'll
be it'll be fun. I know that

654
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:37.719
the ad from here Desiree, and
we haven't been spoken to her a bunch

655
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.559
of this since she arrived. Were
you busy giving the rounds and giving the

656
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.079
interviews, the kind of explaining your
process or what you're going to be dealing

657
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.679
with. Yeah, it was great
to just be, you know, right

658
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:52.079
alongside our head coach and the four
football players we had there. Got a

659
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:55.400
chance to interact with a lot of
media and just for me to meet a

660
00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:59.199
lot of the national coverage. Yeah, and you know, put faces with

661
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:01.760
names and go those relationships. Was
wonderful. And then yeah, I get

662
00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:06.119
a chance to talk a lot about
the exciting things happening all of our issue.

663
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.480
So we got to squeeze in a
lot here because we know we've got

664
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.480
to get off the air at the
top here in about ten minutes. But

665
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:14.519
the first thing I want to ask
you was, you know you're new in

666
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.360
this job. I know you've been
in the department for a long time at

667
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:22.039
a high level, but stepping into
the number one position, what was the

668
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:27.239
first thing you felt you needed to
do or needed to accomplish to really kind

669
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.239
of get the ball rolling on everything
else that's coming your way now. It

670
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:32.880
was really important, you know,
right after the announcement, we had a

671
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:37.119
chance to get a decent amount of
our team together, you know, summertime

672
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:39.800
and so not everybody was in the
building, but we had a already scheduled

673
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:44.880
departmental outing and just got to get
the group together and talk about doing this

674
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.679
together. It's not about for the
adeas, It's about how do we use

675
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:52.199
our collective talents as an athletics department
to go really energize our fan base,

676
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:57.360
fire up our community, and go
represent a issue in a fine fashion.

677
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.960
And so, you know, we
had a six or seven months going through

678
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:05.239
the interim period and wanted to get
everybody back together and focused on where we

679
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:08.519
go next and I'm just a big
believer that it's not anyone person's responsibility.

680
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:13.000
It's our entire collective effort that's going
to help this thing turn around and continue

681
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.280
to improve. How much does it
help that you were inside the building to

682
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:19.840
start with? I think it helps
a lot. You know, I've came

683
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.639
out to ASU when I was eighteen, and I've never left the market,

684
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.039
So you know, it was a
two time Alumita issue. Was a member

685
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.760
of our baseball program. Was gone
for thirteen years while I was with the

686
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:35.639
Diamondbacks, but I was still in
the community building relationships that are maintained today.

687
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:37.719
And you know, much like Tucson, Phoenix is a close knit business

688
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:43.119
community and people can be Assu fans
and Sun fans and Dbacks fans, and

689
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:45.920
so having twenty five years of history
not only an a issue, but also

690
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.360
in the valley, in this incredible
metro market, I think all that's a

691
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.000
huge advantage. Okay, so you're
going to the Big twelve. There's all

692
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:57.519
these things, you know, flying
around, You've got nil to deal with,

693
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.920
You've got you know, your your
teams have transfer portal deal with and

694
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:02.880
all the issues that come with that. You're going to have to start paying

695
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:08.440
players very soon and setting revenue aside. And then and then at the same

696
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:13.599
you got this transition to a whole
new league that comes with a whole bunch

697
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.440
of logistical stuff. How was you're
going to make him resign from his posession

698
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:22.280
with all that play? You know
what comes first? Right? I mean,

699
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.119
it's really I mean, how how
how does all this come together?

700
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:29.000
How do you not lose your mind
trying to get your arms around all of

701
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.199
it? You know, in some
ways, I think ignorance is bliss and

702
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:34.480
and this is the version of college
sports that I know, you know,

703
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.039
I was. I've been away from
it for thirteen years and coming back in

704
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.880
at the beginning of the transfer portal
era and nil and just you know,

705
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:45.159
being a part of this constant state
of change. And then certainly over the

706
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:51.519
last year, as we were navigating
conference realignment going into we've joined a new

707
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:52.920
hockey conference as well. So we're
not only going in the Big twelve,

708
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:59.400
but we're going into a brand new
conference for exciting hockey program and leadership changes

709
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:02.639
and and class action settlements. I
mean, we're navigating change all around us.

710
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:06.719
And where it's a benefit, in
my opinion, is that we've been

711
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:09.079
under the hood on all of it. We haven't had to be episodic or

712
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:13.360
one change after another, or one
year it's the move in the Big twelve,

713
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.519
and the next year it's the leadership
transition. We're able to really look

714
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:17.880
at it across the board and say, how do we make the best decision

715
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:22.239
that puts us in the best position
for success across all the change around us,

716
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:27.079
and just embrace it. It's evolving. I don't see as challenges.

717
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:30.440
I do think that there's new new
doors opening as a result of all this

718
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:32.679
change, and we just want to
be able to maximize the moment. I

719
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:37.199
remember back in the day when we
covered the news sports in the newspapers were

720
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:40.039
talking to Jim Livgod. I think
some of the worries the AD's had back

721
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:44.519
Daniel was worrying about the kids,
the five hundred and some student athletes not

722
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.880
getting into trouble doing some crazy things. That's just a side thing. Now

723
00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.400
you have money issues. I'm sure
you're a dad. You know, sorry,

724
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:53.760
son, I can buy this because
we don't have it. It's almost

725
00:45:53.840 --> 00:46:00.039
like that's the case every day in
athletics today. Yeah, i'd said the

726
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.400
environment of the business of college sports. Its certainly changed, but the focus

727
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:06.760
is still our student athletes, and
that's got to be the driving force and

728
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:09.679
everything that we're doing, where despite
how the environment around them is changing,

729
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:15.320
we're still here to resource our head
coaches, to put our young people who

730
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:17.920
they're with every single day and the
best position for success, not only for

731
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:22.519
the sport, but also as a
young person in the world, finding their

732
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.920
way through young adulthood, academically,
pursuing their passions, their hobbies, et

733
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:30.039
cetera. You know, Commissioner your
Mark has said this a lot lately,

734
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.199
that there's no better time to be
a student athlete. I tend to agree.

735
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:36.800
I just think that they've got new
doors open to them that we didn't

736
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:38.559
have when I was in this environment, and so we need to be mindful

737
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:43.119
of how do we help them utilize
the tools that are available to them.

738
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.159
And that is a you know,
certainly a huge departmental focus that they issue

739
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:51.480
is making sure that we don't lose
sight of their students before their student athletes.

740
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.639
And they're also young people that are
navigating a very complicated world around them,

741
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:58.079
and that's got to be the north
star and everything that we put in

742
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.679
front of them. Yes, how
we how we get to Saturday may change,

743
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:05.400
but Saturday is still Saturday. And
there's nothing more special than college athletics

744
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.079
and the dollars that we raise and
the dollars that we put into it are

745
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.519
benefiting young people. And I just
feel like there's not a better time in

746
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:14.960
the world to be putting more productive
young people out into society. So with

747
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.480
so much stuff, so much of
this stuff, you know, so up

748
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:22.320
in the air, particularly this whole
issue of the revenue sharing piece, how

749
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:27.000
hard is it to kind of figure
out what directions you got to be going

750
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:29.760
on some stuff? Right, You're
going to have to at some point.

751
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.599
The numbers are something like twenty million
dollars you're gonna have to be sharing with

752
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:37.440
athletes and that kind of stuff.
How can you look ahead and how can

753
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.079
you plan for the future when you've
got something like that looming in front of

754
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:45.360
you, Well, it's ironically helpful
to know what it's going to look like

755
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:46.920
moving forward, and you can really
start to build a plan on how we're

756
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:50.320
going to get there. And we're
prepared to compete. We're prepared to be

757
00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:53.480
in every conversation with what we can
provide for our student athletes to enrich their

758
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:58.440
experience, and even as compensation enters
the conversation, we're going to be prepared

759
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.760
to meet that moment. And you
know, we've got the luxury of time,

760
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:02.679
but it's not a lot of time, and so there's a lot of

761
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.119
planful decisions that we need to make. It may make the budgeting process and

762
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.639
how we financially forecast look a little
differently, and we really need to challenge

763
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:15.639
ourselves across every decision we make of
how is this dollar spent benefiting a young

764
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.920
person in their journey through sport,
How does this allow us to showcase what's

765
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:24.119
happening at ASU, and just redirect
how we're spending dollars to be in alignment

766
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.880
with the goals and objectives of what
we're here to do. And so,

767
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.960
yes, it may cost more money, but you know that's where I feel

768
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:35.639
like being in a major research university
in a major metropolitan market is a really

769
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.159
really important advantage as we move forward, and it's all about resource generation and

770
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:43.719
we're lucky to be an incredible market
as a part of an incredible state.

771
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:46.559
We have people move into Arizona and
ways that most other parts of the country

772
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.760
aren't enjoying, and that's just a
chance for us to connect, build more

773
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:54.119
fans, sell more tickets, energize
our fan base, and reinvest all those

774
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:57.760
dollars into what college sports is going
to look like moving forward. So,

775
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.719
Grem I've been here thirty some years, covered a little issue, but a

776
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.159
lot of Arizona. Jay has been
here for all his life. And the

777
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.920
phrase we use, and we've used
probably too much, is a issue is

778
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.599
a sleeping giant. We've said that
for years and years. Do you still

779
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:15.599
feel that and is it maybe overused? And you guys use a different term.

780
00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:17.840
Well, I mean, if that's
the case, we want to be

781
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.320
the group that wakes up a sleeping
giant. I'm very bullish on the opportunity

782
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:25.639
in front of us. I think
we're part of an incredible community of a

783
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:31.719
issue fans and again, having that
combination of enormous university that's contributing in all

784
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.800
levels of society, that's in the
backdrop of a growing, incredible metropolitan market

785
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:40.440
like we have in Phoenix. That's
a really important advantage for a issue and

786
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:44.880
we'd be foolish if we don't lean
into that. And you know, Michael

787
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.000
Crow, our president, has made
the full strength of the issue behind what

788
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:51.760
we're doing in athletics. It's a
really important investment into the work that we're

789
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.719
doing. And you know, I'm
excited about everything that's coming at us and

790
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:59.920
how do we just fully utilize the
strength of the issue in the athletic space

791
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.679
we're moving forward and so yeah,
I think there's tremendous opportunity and there's tremendous

792
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:07.239
upside. We've got a great trend
line from many of our sports having a

793
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:09.880
lot of success, and many of
them already and certainly getting football, mental,

794
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:14.320
women's basketball, baseball on track and
not looking back is a huge focus

795
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:15.039
of ours right now. Well,
let me follo up a little bit on

796
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:20.119
that. We're talking to Graham Rosini, athletic director at Arizona State. Graham,

797
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.760
what's got you most fired up about
moving this first season in the Big

798
00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:28.480
twelve for all your teams? And
then what's got you sort of maybe a

799
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:31.360
little worried, I'm say worried,
but just you know something that you feel

800
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:35.280
like, Okay, we've really got
to pay attention to this. Yeah,

801
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:37.880
we just really need to embrace the
change and this is the direction that we're

802
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:42.320
moving. We're fully embracing it as
we get ready for Haugust second and entering

803
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.639
the Big twelve. I do think
it's really important that we're maintaining the rivalry

804
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:49.679
with University of Arizona. I just
could never imagine a world where the two

805
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.440
of us weren't together. There's just
too much history. This rivalry is really

806
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.840
important, as obviously your listeners know, and you know, I grew up

807
00:50:55.840 --> 00:51:00.559
in the southeast around Alabama Auburn.
That's a well documented, famous rivalry.

808
00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:04.840
I really put the asu U of
a rivalry right alongside it. I just

809
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:08.400
think that there's an intensity and a
passion across each fan base that's really unique.

810
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.199
It's a lot of fun, it
gets emotional at times, as it

811
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:15.880
should, but it's a really meaningful
rivalry. And the fact that we maintain

812
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:19.639
the part that is most important as
we move forward is intact and that's a

813
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really good benefit. And then you
know, we get the benefit of going

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into the Big twelve alongside U of
A and Colorado and Utah and having that

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connection with those universities. That's been
a really unique and valuable part of our

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Pact twelve experience. And then understanding
that there's twelve universities that are willing to

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welcome us with open arms, and
it'll be different. Admittedly, it'll be

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different ways that we can't get no
until we experience the first cycle of it.

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But I'm really excited for these campuses
that will visit. We've we've been

820
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lucky. You know, Desiree has
been in a lot of the meetings alongside

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us, and to a person,
the Big twelve room has been very welcoming.

822
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They're excited about what ASU and U
of A bring into this conference.

823
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You know, certainly athletically, but
academically and our society impact. All those

824
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things are positive attributes. But there's
some great universities that will compete against and

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we'll build new traditions and new rivalries, and we'll experience new parts of the

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country as a result of it.
And uh and again, we're just excited

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to get any other eye into the
transition and start life in the Big twelve.

828
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We only got about fifteen seconds.
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a short stop or second basement,
because you were a smart man. I

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was a catcher, but I'm sick
five, so I should have been a

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picture that would have been maybe the
better long term decision but yeah, I

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was so good I ended up behind
the desk. That's all you need to

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Thanks you, thanks for joining us. N we appreciated best, best eluct

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this season. Thank you, Thank
you. Look forward to seeing you.

835
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Great, great, great timing,
awesome good stuff. All right, we'll

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be right back. We'll be here
at the top of the hour with breaking

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news with one stick around

