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What is going on? Everyone?
Welcome to another episode of conspiracy or just

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a coincidence. I am Jack Allen. Thanks for joining me or soon or

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listening or soon to be joining.
I was I was out last week.

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As many of you follow me on
Twitter. I was doing my floor for

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the nursery, so I got the
lamb and flooring, had to redo it

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a few times. But I'm turning
into a pro. So then I wasn't

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able to do a show last week. But this week I'm honored to have

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my good friend the odd man.
How are you doing, my buddy?

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Hey, man, it's great to
be back on with you. It's been

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too long. Yes, I felt
like um, like a boy in love

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with like a middle school crushed.
How many times I kept texting on and

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I said, hey you free to
night, Hey you free to night?

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Hey you free next night? But
so luckily we were able to match up.

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I felt so bad too, man. It was like literally something was

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planned every single night, and I
was like, man, I hope he

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does not think I'm lying to him, but yeah, man, my wife

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had time off, we had people
in and it was just it was crazy.

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I'm I'm still exhausted. I'm so
exhausted. Was that your big vacation

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then for the summer? Well,
no, we actually are going, um

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next month at the end of next
month to Florida to visit the friends who

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actually came in town a couple weeks
ago. Yeah, so I think that's

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like the last week of next month. So yeah, nice. Nice,

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You were like not doing anything big
because of the all. You know,

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I have the zoo at my house
and then um, yeah, you know

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lives pregnant, So we're gonna My
parents have like a small lake house,

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so we're gonna we're gonna go there
because cool, they're dog friendly at least.

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Hey Roslin skeptic, Flippy, what's
up? So for we had a

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few topics playing, but I was
just talking to odd Man about um that

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Jim Caveazelle on Steve Bannon Show,
and so I just wanted I didn't listen

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to the clip yet, I just
saw it, so I wanted us to

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listen to it really quick. Just
get it that up here. I'll just

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I'm just gonna play. I won't
share it all right. For labor for

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slave labors or is it a dreaming
from the whole drening chrom Empire that this

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is a big deal. That's it
is underlisted under the NAH. It is

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is a chemical compound some molecular structure
as C nine age nine H three is

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um. It's an elite drug that
they've used for many years. It's ten

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times more potent than um heroin and
it has some missal quads as far as

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making you look younger. Um,
there's that scene in Fear and Loathing.

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Oh God, dude, I saw
that and I tell you that had a

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big laugh about nine percent of the
audience. I laughed, and I'll tell

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you we willing laugh. Oh absolutely, they knew known absolutely what it was,

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and so we'd return that on.
All right, good, So what's

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your immediate thoughts, odd Man,
what's your immedia? Well, if he

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had a hard time getting jobs since
the passion, he's never gonna work in

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Hollywood, can oh man? Um? You know, I mean, I'm

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kind of skeptical of that whole thing. But then I did see this was

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a few months ago on Instagram.
Somebody was playing a professor and it was

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black and white footage and he was
talking about adrena chrome. Waite had to

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be the sixties. I mean,
I may have saved it if I did,

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I'll I'll send it to me.
Interesting, But I don't know,

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man, it sounds crazy to me
that, you know, he's talking about

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it and he knows he kind of
knows how much it goes for in those

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kinds of things. I mean,
unless you know, because he's in the

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Hollywood crowd. It's it's like the
thing that the Hollywood people do. But

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I I didn't even think he was
part of that. I figured he'd kind

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of been somewhat excommunicated, being kind
of seen as Mel Gibson's pal or something.

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Yeah, I'm sure you know,
And I remember, you know,

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we were just talking about this three
years ago. If I saw this clip,

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I would be like going nuts.
But these days, I just like,

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don't what for? You know,
they only let them do this to

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mock conspiracy people more. Yeah,
so what's you know? It's like this

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It literally just makes conspiracy people look
insane. So that's that this does not

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wake anybody else up. It just
has que people going yeah, and everybody

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else like, oh god, and
then they can laugh at laugh at us

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who research and all those things.
Right, Yes, the people that actually

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you know, I know we've talked
about this, but the people that actually

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research and read and and do those
kinds of things are seen as idiots.

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And these people that know nothing and
just paart what they hear on media.

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You know, M five M if
you will. They they're the ones that

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are the smart ones. But yeah, it's it's like like my friend was

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telling me last nine because I've been
super unplugged, as I was telling you

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earlier, he said, uh,
you know, I guess that the CIA

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maybe has admitted that they had a
hand or it's been proven that they had

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a hand in killing JFK and it's
been revealed admitted. I guess if he

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was correct that they met with Epstein
like three times after he was ooh,

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I'm not sure if it was arrested
or convicted one of the one of the

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two. But I don't know if
that's true. But you know, it

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doesn't even matter if it is,
because half the people would not you know,

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would not even care about it anyway, you know. And that's what

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it's so scary, right, like, no matter what they and maybe that

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was by design, maybe they knew
by dividing, if you divide people far

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enough, you can literally do whatever
you want, because no matter what,

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you'll have only half the population against
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something so egregious that um, you
know, Mike, that definitely could get

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on board behind, but that would
be that there's nothing I don't the media

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will be able to spend it to
divide the people anyway. But yeah,

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I mean that's a really I think
that's a great move if that's your plan.

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That they did it perfectly, dude, because you're right, nobody if

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like a blue you know, a
Democrat pushes on it's the rights Yellen Adam

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and flip vice versa flip flop.
Yeah, it's kind of like, um,

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you know, kind of like this
dual, dualistic kind of thing with

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just having the two parties because like
you have kind of like the voting public

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anyway, fifty percent of the voting
public supporting one team no matter what,

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in fifty percent supporting the other team
no matter what. So it's kind of

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like they can't lose really because there's
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of the public against you know,
one party. I think just because they

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have such good propaganda, the propaganda
machine so huge. And I finished my

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Catherine the Great series or the Washington
Post and just the time. I mean

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literally like the CIA built the Washington
Post literally like and they've it's just amazing,

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Like all that was how they were
able to come in and buy Newsweek

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because the one guy you know,
who was the CIA affiliated reporter told called

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up Um Graham, the the the
owner of the Washington Post, Hey,

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it's gonna go for sale that day, gave a million dollars to buy Newsweek.

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And I'm sure you know and your
readings you've come across how Newsweek has

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like been CIA propaganda forever, you
know, all of their they they're heavily,

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heavily affiliated and that, and that's
in the book. They have that

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famous quote it's cheaper to buy a
journalist than a good call girl. So

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it's just the soap. And I
was just telling my wife because we we

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make fun of, you know,
the colored hair people. These people like

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will do whatever social media, the
talking as it's scary. They will do

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whatever, no matter what. They
will do it if you tell them this

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is why you should and they may
you know, say no, I listen

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of it, but they would they
literally would they would do it. Oh

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yeah, oh yeah, Because it's
it's almost like it doesn't even matter what

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the issue is if it's like they're
gonna go against anything that's seen as traditional,

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you know, so it doesn't even
matter. It's almost like they're more

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worried about looking you know, tolerant
in front of their woke friends than even

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what the issue is. It doesn't
matter. It's it's kind of like a

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lifestyle now, you know, don't
you think? Yes, dude, absolutely

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absolutely, it's crazy. It's great. But so well, well, I

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you know, I'm horrible at current
events, so you please tell everyone what

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you're researching and you can you can
have the floor. Oh well, thank

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you, man. I'm terrible at
current events too, so we make a

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compare on that. Uh, you
know, I've been taking another look at

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freemasonry. I've done four shows now
in a row on it. I had

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done like maybe five or six shows
in the past, and when I first

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started, mainly and probably only a
couple of those shows. Those were decent

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because I was learning and I got
some things wrong, and I I use

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some sources that now I look back
and I'm like, I don't know if

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they were exactly trustworthy. So I
thought, you know what, I need

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to take another look at that and
look at can I look at like each

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issue one by one, like or
is freemasonry a religion, you know,

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and does it have a Luciferian aspect? You know these controversies that we've heard

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in conspiracy world forever, you know, does it lie to the lower level

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initiatives? Is there's something like a
hidden agenda at the you know, kind

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of at the top. And so
those are the kinds of things I've been

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looking into, and I've just been
consulting mainly, just consulting freemasons themselves,

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like looking at some really old books, just kind of trying to find out

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if maybe they had you know,
through their own quotes for the most part,

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could I find the answer? So
that's kind of where I'm going with

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that because I feel like, you
know, a lot of the stuff I've

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listened to, you know, like
a lot of podcasts and watch videos and

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stuff like that, and I feel
like a lot of it's the same thing

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over and over again. So I
wanted to kind of try to go a

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little bit deeper. Nice dude,
and well, anything you've and I totally

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agree with you, it would be
good to go back and do old topics

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because you're you just you know,
when I'm just like you. Maybe you

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probably knew more when you started,
but I knew like nothing. So I'm

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just going off the one book.
And I remember my wife asked me,

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how do you know what's real and
what's not? And I was like,

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shit, I have no idea.
I have no idea if I have to

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tell. And you don't really know
now, but you have like a little

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bad you can say, oh,
well this I've heard this author say at

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this thing. But have you learned
anything like super new or any any big

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claims in your in your research already? Well, I do believe for sure

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that it's a it's a religion.
And one of the things that makes it

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tough with those guys is they kind
of contradict themselves, and they talk in

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code and in circles, and they
try to wax eloquent in their writings,

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and some of it's kind of hard
to understand, and they make it hard

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to understand. And they even talk
about how, you know, kind of

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like the the Caballists. They talk
about how words and phrases have more than

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one meaning and stuff like that.
But yeah, I think I've in my

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mind, I'm satisfied that it is
absolutely a religion. And always was to

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be, so I don't think they
really tell that to the lower level initiatives.

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And you know, they have the
term hoodwinked in freemasonry, and I

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think that all the lower level initiatves
are hoodwinked for the most part, and

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nothing I haven't been able to I'm
still in the process of looking into this

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aspect of it, but I do
believe, you know, the G.

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Everybody has their own idea of what
the G stands for, you know,

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God, the Grand architect gravity.
But I heard one Mason say away or

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gate and that kind of he didn't
like elaborate on that, and it got

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me to thinking, I think that
masonry is the gateway to the occult.

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I really do, because every time
you look at one of these other more

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openly nefarious or Crowley esque organizations,
it's always Mason's that start them, every

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single time, even Crowley himself.
So I think it's a the gateway to

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the occult. And I think that
all these you know, because you have

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people like Albert Pike and Manly p
Hall, and they would talk about how

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they were going to like it was
set up to full of the lower level

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initiatives and the people they didn't think
were worthy of learning the real meanings,

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and they talk about the Hidden Masters
or the Great White Lodge and different things

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like that. So I think that, you know, I haven't figured out

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who those Hidden Masters are and probably
never will. But yeah, I definitely

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think all these mason Esque organizations are
connected. I really do. And I

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think that maybe they're not as important
as they once were, but I think

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it one time. I think they
were extremely important. Yeah, in kind

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of controlling governments and different things like
that. Did you research all to the

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beginnings of Freemasonry or do you just
kind of start from the what seventeen seventeen

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when they come out in the open? You know, I've looked into that,

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not specifically during these shows that I'm
doing right now, but I have

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looked into that in the past,
you know. And it's kind of like

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it depends on which Mason you consult, you know, which one you read.

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Some believe it only started and say, well, I've even read something

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that think it didn't start until the
seventeen hundreds, but it seems like most

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of them think like late fifteen hundreds, maybe that when the Rosa Crucians started

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popping up and stuff like that,
and of course then there's others that think

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it goes all the way back to
the Tower of Babel or even even older

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than that. So and in fact, I I want to do probably not

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on the next show, but one
of those shows coming up. I've really

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been able to find from different writers
the whole lure about how masonry goes back

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to the Tower of Babel and Nimrod
and those kinds of things. So I

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don't know, it's kind of interesting
because it's such a big I feel like

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it's such a big subject that it
really hasn't been torn apart in conspiracy world,

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even though it's been talked about a
lot. I feel like taking that

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deeper dive, not a lot of
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hope I can people it's just freemasonry
bad, is the you know, that's

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like the general consensus pretty much in
the conspiracy world, right. It's I

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always struggled to balance out, how, you know, we admire founding fathers

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and all these key people in history, and so many of them are Freemasons,

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we like assume, okay, all

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these people that were powerful or evil, but some of these people have done

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positive things for humanity or for the
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as they didn't. So it's hard
for me to reconcile those two. You

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know. So if I just say, okay, everyone who freemason equals bad,

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well, all our founding fathers,
then we're bad because they were all,

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for most part, freemason. What
do you what do you? Where

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do you? I? Yeah,
I don't know where I like fall on

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the spectrum. I definitely agree with
you. It's tough, man, It's

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really tough, because, yeah,
you don't want to just it's hard to

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assume that all these guys were nefarious
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are bad by any means. I
think that the lower level wins, and

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I mean I think that most of
them. Just from reading these more adept

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Masons, they'll tell you that the
lower level guys don't have a clue what's

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going on, don't know what the
symbols mean, don't know what the true

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meaning of masonry means, and stuff
like that. So I think that it

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there's I'm sure been some great Masons. I worked for a Mason once,

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and he was he was a good
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think that there is a an agenda
and they call it. I think they

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call it the secret Doctrine. I
mean, you know, Bolobotsky had the

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Secret Doctrine, and you know you
read about I think it was a e.

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Waite the Secret Doctrine in Israel.
If I'm not mistaken, I could

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be wrong about that author. But
they always talk about the Secret Doctrine and

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as far as I can tell,
and somebody can scool me on this,

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but I think that there's probably many
secret doctrines. But I think if you

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boil it down to what the secret
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the the initiate that he is a
God. He is God, he is

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a God. There's no It's almost
like atheism with all this lure in mythology

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wrapped around it, if you know
what I mean. And that's the way

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Kabala seems to me too, and
Masonry is so connected to Kabbala that it's

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it's just insane. But I think
that's a secret doctrine. They're just they're

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just going all these different ways to
try to tell you in the end,

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you are God. There's nothing else
out there. So it's like if you

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want to call that Luciferian. I
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of Eden, you know, so
why not just come out and say that.

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us was around during you know,

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Christian America, But I mean I
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like perception, or how they came
about they took handled problems, or

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how just society function when everyone is
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you know, God or god fearing
religious people as opposed to Now obviously

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we could say like the generacy and
all this stuff, but I just it

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must have been. It would be
you wouldn't even recognize the America. I

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imagine if you were there and you
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people, because that that thought that
you are God has purpose just spread out

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everywhere. I mean it's in music, movies, you know, every manifestation

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I US. So how many times
you see manifestation on you know, manifest

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your money or whatever on videos or
investing or whatever. I mean it's literally

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everywhere, dude. So it's it's
crazy. If it wasn't their goal,

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then then they just got really lucky. But if it was they again they

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did a good job. Yeah,
I agree, man, And you know,

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we've heard for years that, you
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these wars and they've been killed more
people than anybody. But you know,

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man, I'm convinced, at least
in the you know, fairly modern times,

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even going back at you know,
several hundred years ago, I think

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a lot of these guys were in
these Masonic groups and the leaders, the

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important people, you know, and
so well, were they really Christian wars

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or were they these wars too,
you know, to purify, you know,

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because I've read that Cabitalists believe that
these wars, like in Israel and

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stuff like that, it's purification.
They're purifying the land. And h there's

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such a you know, I mentioned
a second ago, there's such a Cabbalistic

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influence on Masonry, and I wonder
if there's not something like that going on

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as well that you know, you
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you have the teak teaking olam.
I guess that is how you say that.

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I probably butchered it. But anyways, belief that you are responsible for

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repairing the world that you know,
as as Jews were, they were responsible

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for repairing the world. And it's
the same thing in freemasonry, it's the

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great work, you know, the
theosophy too, the great work, it's

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the same thing, you know,
some kind of notion. So I love

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that purifying the land thing. Remember
how we always talk about Germany and when

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I always say, like, what
the hell is going on in Germany?

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It's like a you know, an
eighties action movie. But yeah, I

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mean that, you know, that's
a good that's at least one possible answer

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that we've that could be as there. There's something's special about this land,

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and they're they're purifying it because as
we've all I mean, I don't know

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if you guys, there's like the
thirty year War, seven year War,

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War one, World War two,
all these places. Um, there's just

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so many wars have basically had Germany
as the loser usually or Prussia. Sometimes

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they would win, but you know, it's just odd. It's they're always

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the bad guy and odd man.
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what is you know, Iluminati banking? Everything comes out, what's going on

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here? What's the hell is going
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that. I mean, you know, I'm sure there's other aspects to it,

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but I think that, you know, I've always been kind of like,

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the one thing that I've been solid
about since I started doing the shows

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on masonry from the start is,
you know, the sacred oaths, the

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allegiance to each other. Once you
get anybody who has an allegiance to because

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a lot of times it'll say,
you know, you swear to the lodge,

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or you swear to the master of
the law, the worstful master,

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or whatever. But if these guys
are swearing to each other, and and

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I understand, maybe today an oath
doesn't mean what it did one day,

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you know, back you know,
a few decades and centuries ago. But

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anyway, I mean, these guys
get into governments and places of business and

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they're it just is a breeding ground
with the secrecy element too, for nefarious

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operations. I mean, there's no
way around it. I mean, conspiracies,

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Yeah, how can it? How
could it not be with all the

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secrecy? I mean, there's just
no way. Dude. I was and

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I don't know, I don't know
why I struggled with this concept so much,

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but you obviously You've done a lot
of shows on Fabian socialism, and

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I've I've always like tried to reconcile
the CIA being so anti communistic, but

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yet they're leading us to call like
at least cultural Marxism today. And I

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could just just couldn't put this all
together, like how are why are they

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these powerful people socialists? But we're
fighting communists and so the more I think

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I just saw I don't know how
this relates at all, I kind of

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secret societies, but I saw like
the and I think i've read this from

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Anthony Sutton, the corporatize socialism.
That's what the goal is. But I've

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just been amazing to see how these
groups they are all these liberal, liberalistic

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groups of the time, radical at
the time, and they've they've all gotten

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on board. And I know everyone
jokes about the uniparty and everything like that,

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but it's just amazing that liberalism was
this virus that just spread through all

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these secret societies through progressive initiatives and
things like that. And it's just amazing

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that all these people knew that this
was the goal. Maybe not new,

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but some people knew this was the
goal. Result and just how they've achieved

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it. Yeah, absolutely, I
think it was. I want to say,

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two episodes ago, I did a
show Freemasonry in the New World Order,

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and I've found quite a few quotes
from different Masons about out you know,

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like world government, and I was
able to find that the thing was

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the Grand Oriental Lodge. They were
big proponents of the League of Nations.

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And even since then, I've found
more quotes from Mason's about the United Nations

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and different things like that. So
they talk about the Universal Brotherhood and and

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you know, Manly p. Hall
talks about this philosophy, this utopia.

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I think he's going back to Plato
ruled by philosopher kings and stuff like that.

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So I think they're definitely behind this
this world order type of thing.

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I think they always have been.
Of course, it's sold as you know,

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as this kind of hippie or all
be one, there'll be no wars,

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everybody will be equal, nobody will
struggle. But there's no possible way

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that it could ever be like that
with the way humans are and the people

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in power. I mean, look
at the people in power now, they're

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horrible. You think the World Government's
gonna stop that? I mean, it's

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just sort of it's a ridiculous idea, absolutely, dude, And I think

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you're right too. Like Freemasonry today, I don't know why. I always

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ask myself that too, like what
groups you know, because Freemasonry we don't

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see. It's not it was so
powerful. I mean where there was a

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political party created to stop Freemasonry.
I mean that's in Could you imagine a

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single issue candidate almost winning he almost
won, right that, the anti Mason

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guy. I think, so,
I know it was supposedly it was huge.

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Yeah, but like, could you
like, you know, your stances

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lead are decriminalized drugs and that's the
only thing you ran. I mean,

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that's crazy, dude, it was. It's just it was so powerful,

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and I want I imagine today I
can't. I mean those I see the

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lot, you know, there's lodges
in every neighborhood and they look run down

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and yeah, oppressed. But yeah, it's just yeah, no, Yeah,

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you're definitely right, And I don't
think that it has the power that

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it once did. But I do
still believe that probably maybe in the upper

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echelons of government, it still exists, especially in these other countries. I

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know during COVID, I followed a
bunch of different profiles on like Instagram,

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like in Venezuela, in different places
like that South America, in Central America,

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and some of these guys were filming
these Masons like like in their government.

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Like it was like even there were
even a few who had the Freemasonic

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symbol. It didn't have the G, but it had the scales, you

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know, the level and well not
on their governmental seal. So it's like,

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if you know, if it's probably
a good way to for our guys

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to control those smaller governments, because
I think that cias you know, controlling

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half those governments or more anyway where
they are. So they get them to

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swear oaths still to each other and
probably means more than it did does to

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us. You know, probably still
means a lot to those guys. And

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probably the alternative is you know,
having your throat right well and that and

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that's why I think people like don't
realize maybe I'm I'm sure a lot of

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our leaders didn't start out. It's
like these evil people and then they joined

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a secret society. They they got
a job, they did with the whatever

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their superior mentor told them to do. They did one thing that was morally

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ambiguous and that's it. And it's
still you have a family, you have

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your reputation, your life. I
mean, that's how you can see these

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people just go along to get along
and do what needs to be done because

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they're just they're just trying to continue
that that makes it right in anyway.

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But yeah, right, it's exactly. Yeah, yeah, I'd read one

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thing I just popped into my mind. So I guess it was FDR who

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died pretty suddenly nice, yeah,
and he was a Freemason. And then

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um so Truman took his place immediately, and he was a Freemason, and

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he hired or appointed I guess it
was Ellen or Roosevelt, which was the

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former first Lady to head up some
big office in the UN when the UN

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was starting to get going. And
then it said that this was a actual

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this was an article from a New
Zealand or Australian freemasonry website. Like it

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was promasonry. It wasn't like,
you know, yeah, something else that

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was against it, but it was
talking about the history of it, and

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it was just talking about how a
lot of Freemasons had been advocates of the

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United Nations, and it talked about
a few other people that were lesser known,

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but what was the Nelson Mandela was
a Freemason. Never heard that and

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he was such a big figure,
you know, big. Yeah, So

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it just makes you wonder who all, um. You know, there's a

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lot of people that will probably never
know that we're Mason's. So I think

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that. And then the guys who
were in these other even more creepy,

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weird, you know, organizations,
I think that. I kind of think

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that I've did some research on the
OTO. Um, you know, I

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still got a lot of research to
do, but I feel like that these

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Hollywood types, so that's probably what
they're into. The sexual you know,

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the Golden Dawns and the otos and
the ones that have the sexual element to

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them. Yeah. And anyway,
well, for I wanted to say,

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because you brought up FDR and it
reminded me of Henry Wallace. And so

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for people that don't know, Henry
Wallace was the guy who designed the dollar

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bill. He's wanted to put the
Great Seal on the bill. I think,

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right right, it sounds right to
me. Okay, it's been a

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while since. If I'm wrong,
someone in the chat telling me wrong.

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But I and just to show how
interconnected these occult people are and how spycraft

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has been so Henry Wallace, there
was a Bolovatsky had just kind of passed

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away relatively recently, Andy Bassant took
over. There was like kind of a

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split in the theosophy community. And
Henry Wallace, he was a theosophist and

406
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.680
a freemason, I think, but
he followed this Russian guy who was a

407
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.480
Bolshevik who was a sick occultist.
I forgot his name now, but he

408
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:22.839
was he was a high ranking ball
He was like the spymaster for both the

409
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:29.240
Bolsheviks secret police. But he's this
huge occultist and he always asked for jobs

410
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.799
like in Tibet and things like that, and so they need to come up

411
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:36.319
with a cover story. So like
the cover story for Henry Wallace and this

412
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:40.279
guy talking where he's like he was
looking for seeds that were super powerful that

413
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.480
could like withstand. It made no
see, you know, it's just some

414
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:47.240
but which may also you think,
like, now, how many CIA stories

415
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:48.920
are like that where you're like that
makes zero? What what do you mean

416
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.480
you're doing that? And that means
they're a CI, you know, a

417
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:56.119
spy in some sense. But that
Henry Wallace guy. He was they wrote

418
00:29:56.160 --> 00:30:00.359
all the time, and eventually when
FDR died, I think it got found

419
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.279
out, like who he was talking
to, and so he kind of got

420
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:07.200
pushed out after that. But I
just thought that was interesting too, that

421
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:11.279
even amongst governments, these and not
that we didn't know that, but just

422
00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:15.319
a direct example of working not for
the benefit of your country but for the

423
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:19.680
benefit of your club or whatever.
You're out there looking for ascended masters and

424
00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:26.079
you're sending money or what have you. You know, these relationships they reach

425
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:29.319
across bound borders. That's why they
don't care about borders. They don't care.

426
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.400
They already don't care about borders.
So yeah, absolutely, yeah,

427
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:37.319
it's just it's too much for the
human I mean, to have that secrecy,

428
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.839
have that brotherhood, have those oaths, and then get a place of

429
00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.680
power. Now there's I'm sure a
few who've used that power for good,

430
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:51.880
but the temptation has to be huge, and the temptation has to be also

431
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:57.680
huged to overlook when you're fellow brother
powerful Mason is doing shady things because you're

432
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:03.519
sworn to uphold pretty much everything he
does except for murder, and maybe one

433
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:07.319
or two other things, so you
know, I mean it's and like you'd

434
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:14.039
mentioned theosophy, So I was trying
to find out because I've heard, always

435
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:19.000
heard that Blavatski was a mason.
I've even seen like it was supposed to

436
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:26.039
be her degree or whatever from somewhere. But I've looked at Universal Comasonry dot

437
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.200
com. People should check that side
out because I didn't know too much about

438
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.960
comasonry. But it's been around for
a long time. It's I think mostly

439
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.319
in the UK it's and I don't
think it's in the States, but they've

440
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.640
been admitting women, you know,
ever since I guess they started or whatever.

441
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:47.680
So they have a thing on Bolvotsky, and I think that there's a

442
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.640
theosophical side. I forget the name
of it. It might even be the

443
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:55.119
Theosophy dot org or something like that. But it says that she was not

444
00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.880
Levotsky was not initiated in a lodge
in the United States. Are in the

445
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:06.640
West, but she does say in
there that she was initiated in Tibetan lodges,

446
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.759
And there's a freemasonry lodges all over
the world, so I assume she

447
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:16.880
meant freemasonry lodge. Yeah, some
big tim Mason gave her like a I

448
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:22.319
think his name was John Yarker.
He's another author too, and he gave

449
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.799
her some kind of like degree bestowed
her, like the thirty second or something

450
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:29.559
like that honorary degree or something.
I think she turned it down. But

451
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:34.440
then you go to Annie Besant and
she was a Universal Comason. Of course,

452
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:38.839
she took over for Blovotsky. She
actually was the head of Universal Comasonry

453
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:45.119
in the UK. And then and
this says this on the Universal Comasonry website.

454
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.759
And then Alice Bailey was also a
Universal Comason. You know, she

455
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.000
was the next one to take over
the Theosophical Society. So there's definitely a

456
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:58.039
connection there. Oh that's interesting,
dude. And well I'm thinking about quickly

457
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.720
too. The another guy who was
like one of the heads I think of

458
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:07.079
the Theosophical Society roun about the time
of Blubotsky. Like he was way up

459
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.240
there. H. C. W. Lead Beater. He's an occultist in

460
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:14.119
author in the chat Um Flippy.
He's a genius. He brought that,

461
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:17.279
he said, that was it?
Lead Beater? Yeah, awesome, great

462
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:22.279
stuff man. Yeah, so he
was also a Freemason as well. He

463
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.359
wrote, like I've been getting some
like good information from him because he didn't

464
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.920
hold back. He was and actually
that guy went on to I believe,

465
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:36.319
I don't know if he was convicted, but he was accused multiple times of

466
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:42.640
being a pedophile. So yeah,
so well, and the interest like theosophy

467
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:45.920
I remember, so I this just
like it is kind of random, but

468
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:50.160
um, Joe Rogan used to have
this guy on and now blanking on his

469
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.480
name. He's a Boston professor,
Robert Show, I think that's his name,

470
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:57.920
and he's like the Sphinx guy,
like the Sphinx is much older than

471
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.440
it is. And at the time
when this clip came out, it was

472
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:05.039
like, you know, eight years
just you know, not there was Joe

473
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.440
Rogan podcast was not as big as
it was it was today. But I

474
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:14.440
remember the guy saying, Robert who
says history is all wrong, that he's

475
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.280
a theosophist and his mom's a theosophist. And at the time I had no

476
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.039
idea what that meant. But I
just looking back, I find that interesting

477
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.719
because here, you know, and
I don't doubt that, I'm sure our

478
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:30.039
timeline so screwed up, but I
just found it interesting that this theosophist guy

479
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:37.440
that focuses on the sphinx in ancient
Egypt is claiming time is manipulated, warped,

480
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.840
you know where we come from a
greater civilization than than he. You

481
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.679
know, the Egyptians didn't build this. And it just was like, wow,

482
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:46.920
dude, like, did what came? Did you join theosophy first or

483
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:52.639
did you find theospy after you you
know, discovered this, um this this

484
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:55.800
inconsistency with the sphinx. But I
just found that was I thought that was

485
00:34:55.840 --> 00:35:00.920
like a fun, fun tidbit.
That is fun because it's like, I'm

486
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.119
sure the theosophy is still around you, but I don't ever hear about it

487
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.159
anymore as far as like, you
know, like current stuff, and it

488
00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:12.360
may be bigger than we even could
could imagine. They probably just really you

489
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.239
know, quiet and sneaky about it. But uh, sometime I was gonna

490
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:22.440
say that was connected to another thing
that was connected to theosophy. Damn well,

491
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.039
I do know that, you know, there were some occultists who thought

492
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.719
that Bolovotsky was a fake. There
was one guy who was really really well

493
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:36.519
respected back in the day. His
name was Renee when on he may have

494
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:38.880
been French, I can't remember now. But he wrote a whole book about

495
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:45.199
how you know, she was a
sham and in the Theosophical society was not

496
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:52.320
true theosophy. And I've got another
real small book and it's um. This

497
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:58.000
guy was like a professional magician.
Uh, I forget his name, but

498
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:02.400
anyway, he wrote this booklet on
uh Blevotsky and how she was a charlatan

499
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:08.480
and as a fake spiritist or spiritualist
before you know, she got famous and

500
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:13.480
she had this, um, she
had this some kind of like magic trick

501
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:15.760
that she was doing and he proved
it to be fake. And he wrote

502
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.920
this whole little uh kind of like
a pamphlet. It's probably like sixty pages

503
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:30.559
about it. So Mitch's Mitch can't
think of it the occult in America something

504
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.320
like that. I know what she's
talking about. Yeah, Mitch Horwitz,

505
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:37.000
I think. But he wrote all
about how just it theosophy and Blevotsky.

506
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.599
I mean, it was like a
powder keg in America, like everybody was

507
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:46.599
into doing. Say, because I
think what is its post was a post

508
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:50.320
civil no, how did you post
War War one? Right? She was

509
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.400
an American post war? Right?
I think so? Yeah, I think

510
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:57.880
so, because that's why it blew
up was one of the because everyone was

511
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.760
you know, they wanted to do
seances to talk to their loved ones.

512
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:04.679
But anyway, but I think I
want I wanted to, unless you have

513
00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.440
another another thought, No, no, no, I'm just gonna it just

514
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:08.840
reminded me. You know, there's
the and I don't know if it's true,

515
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:12.960
but you may know this better than
me, that the claim that Hitler

516
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.760
had the Secret Doctrine and thought a
lot of it. I don't know if

517
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.199
that's true or not. But yeah, yeah, well I mean that he

518
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.559
didn't he have an obsession with Tibet
as well. And I just never know

519
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:28.199
what's true with with mustache man.
I just never can say anything. It

520
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:32.000
doesn't matter they do, yeah,
exactly, Like it's crazy, you know,

521
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:36.840
they try. I just it's just
they depict his character that's beyond all,

522
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:37.960
you know, So it's on so
much of the stuff, like I

523
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:42.079
can't believe. This is insane.
This doesn't make you know he's only has

524
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.679
one testicle? How do you do? How do you know this? Like?

525
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.440
What? Dude? They'll be capitalizing
on that dude for the next three

526
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.079
or four hundred years at least.
Man a new book every couple of months.

527
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:58.760
It's crazy. Maybe poo Pootler will
take his place at him, but

528
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:00.719
I don't know. He's got a
lot of work. He's really how to

529
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:05.440
step up his game right to get
up there. But I wanted to ask

530
00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:08.880
your do you think do you think
it's that liberalism with freemason? I was

531
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:16.800
just thinking about liberalism and Luciferianism whatever. Do you think that these are these

532
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:22.840
beliefs of progress. It's I'm just
trying to like again, reconcile. You

533
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.239
have even like Frederick the Great,
how we were talking before the show,

534
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:30.840
Oh Prussian King was a Freemason.
You have some monarchs that are You have

535
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:35.920
some people that are anti Freemasonry,
mustache Man, Mussolini, they kicks Freemasonry

536
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.920
out. Then you have some that
are. You know, it's it's such

537
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.960
a confusing group because they don't always
fall on the same side or the same

538
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:45.280
pattern. You know, I know, I know that you can ask you

539
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:50.079
a good question there, but I'm
going to ask you to elaborate on anything

540
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.840
in that that you can elaborate on. No, I see what you mean,

541
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:58.039
and it's that's true, and it's
it's kind of strange because you know,

542
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.239
sometimes you see, they're like,
like, you know, there's been

543
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:06.239
some Masons and founding fathers even then, and those guys seem to have some

544
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:08.480
they had some great quotes and some
of their ideas were fantastic, you know,

545
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:13.480
and then there's other people that have
just these horrible ideas that are Freemasons.

546
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:17.400
Trotsky was into masonry. I read
one of his books for a time,

547
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.000
so you know, it's like you
just never know, And like with

548
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:29.800
the Mussolini and I read something just
the other day. I don't know if

549
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:30.679
it was true or not. I
forget where I read it, but he

550
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:37.039
had a fascination with masonry early on, until you know, he didn't ban

551
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.199
it until like, you know,
he really started to realize, hey,

552
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:44.719
wait a minute, these guys are
working against me and it's a really well

553
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:49.840
put together network. So you know, if that's true, it would make

554
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:53.199
sense because yeah, you know,
until you realized it had a political element,

555
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:57.039
you probably might be attracted to it
and think, oh, well,

556
00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:01.159
this is really cool. The secrecy
and the the templar history and all the

557
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:04.559
you know, the different things like
that. I mean, there's parts of

558
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.000
it. Sometimes I reach stuff by
them and I'm like, you know,

559
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:10.960
that's brilliant. You know, I
won't I won't lie about it. That's

560
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:14.840
brilliant. Well, and so that's
like, that's why I struggle with it

561
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:22.599
because you have so clearly Freemasonry is
anti monarch, anti quote fascist, you

562
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.119
know, I mean, that's word
has lost all meaning anymore, but for

563
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:31.960
the general definition, and they're anti
fascist, they're progressive leaning democracy, you

564
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:37.440
know, and all these things that
are founding fathers were. So it may

565
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:43.400
if I maybe just the people that
like Frederick the Great or um Mussolini,

566
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.960
maybe they didn't realize because they can't
you know, hindsight twenty twenty at the

567
00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:52.320
time that this organization's goals is drastically
different than what their goals might have been.

568
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:57.599
But so maybe that's probably how you
can kind of put those those two

569
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.159
puzzle pieces together, because I just
I always get, you know, clearly

570
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:05.960
their anti fascism. So yeah,
there there That was an awesome book,

571
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.320
Freemasonry behind the Revolutions and just how
the French Revolution, all these revolutions,

572
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:15.079
these color revolutions, maybe they weren't
insiciated by the CIA at the time,

573
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:20.599
but they're they're insticated by the Freemasonry
and to overthrow The only one that held

574
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.719
on really well was the British monarchy, and I think this is because they

575
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.320
they gave up a lot of their
power to Parliament. They had more,

576
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.400
they progressively lost more and more.
But I think they were willing to play

577
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:35.800
ball. And that's why the only
reason why they were allowed to stay and

578
00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.960
not be toppled because they went along
with the banking scam. They went along

579
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:44.079
with all these things, as opposed
to the German monarchs or maybe Russian monarchs,

580
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:47.280
who weren't going along with these things. Yeah, and that's that.

581
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.679
And that's so interesting too because it
brings us kind of back to Germany when

582
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:55.519
you think about it, because the
royal family are actually German. Yeah,

583
00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:59.719
and we know that they've all I
mean, all those uh you know,

584
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:04.960
the the males have been Freemasons,
probably the females too, so and that's

585
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.480
not even really a hidden thing.
I mean, I think prince was the

586
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:13.559
Prince Philip who died. I guess
he was the husband of the queen who

587
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.400
just died. He was like the
head of Freemasonry I think over there,

588
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:21.280
one of the one of the top
guys. So yeah, it's kind of

589
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.679
interesting because yeah, that on one
hand. You see them. You see

590
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:30.360
monarchs and kings going back several hundred
years that were Masons, and then you

591
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:35.440
see this element of this anti you
know, monarchy type of element in freemasonry

592
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:39.840
too, and it makes you wonder. And I've read from people's Masons saying,

593
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:44.199
well, you know, those monarchs, they were never let in on

594
00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.480
the real meaning of masonry. They
were just allowed, tolerated or whatever.

595
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.559
They were humoring them. I'm like, oh, really, is that really

596
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.559
true. I mean, yeah,
yeah, I don't know if I I

597
00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.400
mean, the Knights Templer when they
got brought down, they you know,

598
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:02.639
a bunch of them went to Portugal
and the lead and I think the Knights

599
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.159
of Christ. They just barely changed
the name, but the leader was the

600
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:12.320
monarch who defended them from you know, the papacy, the Catholic Church,

601
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:17.239
all these hunts and inquisitions. So
I can't imagine that they they're not They're

602
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:20.679
not like a toddler. Some of
these monarchs are brilliant, I mean,

603
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:22.960
educated by the smartest, the brightest, and the you know, so if

604
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:28.800
they they're not gonna be like here, here's a shiny magic jem, you

605
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:30.559
know, play with that and come
back to us when you're ready. So

606
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.800
I imagine they they're a little more
involved than that. I would think so

607
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.519
too. And if they had felt
like if they'd found out they were being

608
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:45.760
quote unquote hoodwinked as Mason's did,
like they were probably uh called for the

609
00:43:45.800 --> 00:43:50.119
heads of these guys who are like
kind of stringing them along. Um,

610
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.039
I don't know, just look at
I mean even the Virgin Queen Queen you

611
00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:58.559
know she was so I don't don't
Freemason actually wasn't a you know, quote

612
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.960
unquote around then, but were in
John d practicing the occult together, doing

613
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:07.679
astrology, sending ships off on certain
days, um, all these things.

614
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:13.800
It just it just links again like
these powerful, these powerful people with occult

615
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:19.199
works that the public has no idea. They have zero clue that they're in

616
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.880
the dark, you know, using
Awuiji board, while the rest they're they're

617
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.760
you know, out when they present
themselves there there's god fearing telling you to

618
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:30.559
be a god fearing Christian and all
that stuff. But it just goes back

619
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:34.320
forever and ever. It's it's crazy. Yeah. And you know, I

620
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.800
was talking to a friend a couple
of nights ago. He actually brought it

621
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.760
up. But like you know,
the automatic riding. You know, so

622
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:45.320
you got supposedly the Zohar. You
know. They first said, well,

623
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:46.880
the Zohar, which is, as
far as I can tell, the suffer

624
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:52.400
yet zero and the Zohar or kind
of like the basis of of all occult

625
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.719
beliefs besides like the Hermetic stuff,
the Egyptian stuff and stuff like that.

626
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:00.840
But it's a huge part of it
anyway, because you got the Tree of

627
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:06.880
Life and a lot of the Zohar
teachings in almost every occult's secret society that

628
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:10.880
I've that I've looked into, you
got the Kabala, And it just kind

629
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:15.239
of blows my mind because they first
tried to say, no, this goes

630
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.320
back to like even biblical times,
and then they had to kind of admit

631
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:22.639
no. This one Rabbi, Moses
dai Lyon wrote it, and he claims

632
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:28.199
that he was basically inhabited by that
other, you know, rabbi from like

633
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:35.159
the second third century or something like
that, Simeon bar Yohai. Oh No,

634
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:39.519
Okay, So so that guy is
supposed to be the real rider of

635
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:44.760
the Zohar, but he didn't.
It just came out in the year thirteen

636
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:46.880
hundred, but anyway, he claims
that he was inhabited by him, so

637
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.000
automatic riding. Crowley says that the
aos, you know, creature, whatever

638
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:58.199
you was, spirit inhabited him.
Blovodsky says, the Tibetan inhabited her.

639
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:04.559
I think I don't know about bees
and probably her definitely Alice Bailey. I

640
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.239
think she said that there was I
think another Tibetan or maybe the same one,

641
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:12.559
Digual Cool I think was his name. It goes on and on and

642
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.360
on about these people who claim these
spirits inhabit them to ride this stuff,

643
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:20.920
and it just kind of cracks me
up too, because it's like these spirits,

644
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.960
Okay, they're just gonna take the
if it's even true, which is

645
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:28.719
probably not. But they just take
these spirits like who they say they are

646
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.920
for, you know, for their
word. I mean, they don't think

647
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:36.239
there's like we know about the fallen
Angels. If you're gonna believe in all

648
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.880
that other stuff, then you must
believe about the fallen angels. Do you

649
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:43.079
not think these angels are brilliant and
these fallen angels and they can trick you

650
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:45.800
and tell you, trick you into
riding their stuff, you know what I

651
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:49.960
mean? Like well think, I
mean, Isaac Wise thought does it does

652
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.119
a much better job than we do. But he I remember on a show

653
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:57.440
the hundreds of artists, whether it's
Nicki Minaj or Beyonce, they all say,

654
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:01.519
you know, a spirit takes over
and went before they perform or before

655
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:07.800
they write. And so it's just
these people will I guess it's literally like

656
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.280
that deal with the devil. I
know that's like so ridiculous and like flashy

657
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:14.400
to say, but I guess that's
what it is too, because how else

658
00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:20.039
do you let another spiritual thing or
anything inside your body? You know,

659
00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:22.320
that's that's a very odd that's a
that's a big jump to take from saying

660
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:28.679
be a regular person to demons or
spirits please fill me up and take my

661
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:32.320
personality for me. Yeah, And
it's it's like the dumb saying you'll never

662
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:35.840
put the you know, the toothpaste
back in the tube. I mean,

663
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.119
once you make a deal with something
like that, I mean, if you

664
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:43.960
really do that, I mean you
know that bad stuff is going to happen.

665
00:47:44.039 --> 00:47:49.920
There's no question. And um to
think that these beings, if they

666
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:53.519
they really exist, are good,
I mean I think that's insane, vain,

667
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:58.360
it's just plain insane. Do you
think that's why the big push for

668
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.760
psychedelics and drug usage in this day? I mean, you know, drug

669
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.719
use has never been more socially acceptable
never. I mean I when I was

670
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:09.320
a drug addict, I like hated
when people were like, oh, no,

671
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:13.519
he has a disease like cancer,
and I was like, no,

672
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:19.320
I don't we talking about No,
I don't like I'm struggling. I'm totally

673
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.360
mess but no, I am nothing
like this poor person that has brain cancer

674
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:25.840
that's got a month to live.
Like I made these decisions consciously. I

675
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.320
knew what I was doing, but
um, yeah. But you think that's

676
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:34.960
like plays a role in this this
the promotion of you know, lots of

677
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:38.440
psychedelics. I definitely do, because
I mean they kind of go hand in

678
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:42.480
hand or like the whole New Age
movement, you know, they were doing

679
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:45.800
psychedelics, you know, years and
years ago with the very first of that

680
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:50.360
movement, you know. So I
think that that goes hand in hand and

681
00:48:50.360 --> 00:48:55.719
makes people more open to believing or
probably even accepting, you know, if

682
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.320
you believe that kind of stuff,
accepting these spirits or these ideas, and

683
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:05.119
you know, if you follow these
like and I don't wear a stand on

684
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:09.039
it, but like people who like
these exorcisms and different things like that,

685
00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:13.719
it's usually these people who were susceptible. They have to be susceptible to these

686
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:19.199
spirits. You know. Usually they're
like there's a catastrophe and they really don't

687
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.639
have a foundational set of beliefs and
they let the spirit into them and then

688
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:27.519
you know, they get inhabited or
whatever. And so I think that definitely

689
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:31.400
that would make you weak. And
you know, and like I look back

690
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:37.960
to like um Huxley, Altis Huxley, and I don't know if he talked

691
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.159
about spirits and stuff like that.
He was a scientific guy, but he

692
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:45.840
was a big pusher of LSD.
And then Leary I think was like his

693
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.960
protege or something, and you know, Leary would push that stuff. And

694
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.159
I think it's been found out now
that Leary was at least working for the

695
00:49:52.199 --> 00:50:00.039
FBI at one time. So interesting
stuff. Yeah, yeah, And I

696
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:01.760
mean it's hard to not believe any
otherwise. I mean, like, you

697
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:06.880
know, all these people, my
wife's cousin who's he's like a very nice

698
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:09.199
guy. He's very odd, like
very nice, which is very odd.

699
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:12.960
And I thought we are like a
barbecue the other week. And he's like

700
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:15.079
and again he's like he's probably on
the spectrum. But he just comes up

701
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:20.679
to me. He goes, I
just got back from taking Iowa Oscuwa retreat.

702
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:22.800
And I was like, and you
know, he doesn't like smoke weed

703
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.880
or anything. Like. He just
went on you know, the I'm I

704
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.280
can't say the word Iowa Oscwa retreat
you know, in Mexico, And he

705
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:35.119
just tripped balls for three days in
in the forest or whatever, you know,

706
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:37.079
in the jungle. And I was
thinking, dude, like that's how

707
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.480
mainstream this is, you know,
like he's like a tech guy. He

708
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.199
does like coding and stuff. I
mean, it's it's not he used to

709
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:46.679
just be you know, the druggis
in school or the hippies or whatever.

710
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:52.000
And now no, dude, it's
all walks of life and so it can't

711
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:53.719
just be you know, And I
struggle with that too, like things from

712
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:59.039
God's creations like mushrooms and stuff,
like could they really be bad if he

713
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:00.800
created them? But I don't know. But it's just crazy how it's just

714
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:06.880
lit a wildfire among you know,
the populace. Yeah, and there's there's

715
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:08.840
a big industry for that, you
know. And my wife and I we

716
00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:13.440
watched it's been a few months ago, and I cannot remember what it was

717
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:16.679
what the name of this show was, but it was a show where all

718
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:22.079
these people went to do I can't
remember if it was ayahuasca or something else.

719
00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:25.880
But the guy was an ex con
and he made the stuff himself,

720
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.840
and it showed him like have these
stuff in these vats or whatever. It

721
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.039
was just like gross all around there. These people would pay big money to

722
00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.880
come there and do it and trip
out, and man, these people,

723
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:44.239
some of these people were like losing
their minds. And this guy's he's like

724
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.239
missing teeth. I mean, he
is the picture of an ex con.

725
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:52.239
And I'm like, what the hell
is wrong with these people? I mean,

726
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:57.000
yeah, it's just to trust somebody
like that, and also to put

727
00:51:57.039 --> 00:52:00.679
this substance into your body. I
think this was different. I think they

728
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:04.360
actually drank this if I'm not mistaken, and it may have had ayawaska in

729
00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:08.559
and it had something crazy in it. Yeah, dude, that's you're exactly

730
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:12.440
like, it's nuts. That's nuts. You just you know, you talk

731
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.840
about science and pokes and things,
but you'll go to use these drugs.

732
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:21.800
Somebody made like Barefoot, you know, Dirty Rise and Showered in weeks and

733
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:24.679
you didn't question that at all.
But I don't know. Yeah, if

734
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:28.639
they're the one guy on Twitter,
I almost had him on the show and

735
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:30.559
it fell through. But he wrote
the whole book, this whole book about

736
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:38.679
how psychedelics have been used to you
know, to propagandize the public, and

737
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:44.119
you could make even though like people
not everyone's just even drugs aside, the

738
00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.960
propaganda has a similar effect of opening
you up. Anyway, These the music,

739
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:51.199
these artists are ones that are ladding
demons possessed them. I mean,

740
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:57.320
you listen to this stuff and it
promotes this I guess Luciferianism or your freemasonry

741
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.480
or this do as Thou wilt,
you know, it's it's amazing, like

742
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:07.639
get this this way to connect with
the demons or whatever realm it it's in

743
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:12.440
so many avenues and doesn't us just
need to be drugs? Yeah? Absolutely,

744
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.280
there just reminds me quickly. I'll
just mention this. I have,

745
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:19.119
you know, used LSD before.
It's been years now, but like I

746
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:22.159
used it quite a few times when
I was in my band days or whatever,

747
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.880
and I'll never forget the last time
I did it. Me and my

748
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:30.159
drummer. My drummer was like notorious
for knowing shady people, and he could

749
00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:34.000
always get whatever you wanted and some
things you didn't want. But like,

750
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.519
so we go to this guy's house
and he's like just pull at the edge

751
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:39.320
of the driveway because he doesn't know
you, and then I'll walk down to

752
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:44.480
his house. It's like, okay, and I'd heard like this guy was

753
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:45.599
kind of a legend, this guy
that we were going to his house,

754
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:51.400
like he was a Golden Cloves boxer
and just h he seemed like a really

755
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.880
cool guy, but like not one
of those guys you would he was almost

756
00:53:53.920 --> 00:53:57.639
like too cool. You didn't want
to like get close or whatever. Right,

757
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:00.119
So anyway, but I could see
them, and I was, you

758
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:02.000
know, like the he lived down
a hill, so I could see them.

759
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:07.239
My buddy goes to his door.
They both walk out to an old

760
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.800
abandoned car in the edge of the
yard, all rusted up. The guy

761
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:15.239
opens up the trunk and I see
him stick his hand into the trunk and

762
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:17.679
pull out like a thermist, like
a coffee thermis, like an old school

763
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:22.679
one. Yeah, and he does
something with his hand and then gives it

764
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:25.559
to my drummer and he comes up, you know, and and we leave.

765
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:30.559
But then it was a really hard
trip and it was one of those

766
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:35.360
where some things kind of happened and
it was like one of those that was

767
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:37.960
not fun, and you ended up
just sitting there thinking really deeply for a

768
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:43.280
long time. You know, we
looks very short. I had the epiphany

769
00:54:43.360 --> 00:54:45.760
after I was coming down because I
even though when I was doing it,

770
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:50.800
I hated people who bragged about,
you know, they were getting these like

771
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.719
big ideas and they found God or
they found the meaning of the world.

772
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:58.039
They thought they were so cool.
After they tripped, you knew everything.

773
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.800
It is hit me. This is
like when you have like a traumatic incident

774
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:08.599
in your life and afterwards you do
learn you feel like you've learned from it.

775
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:13.559
But I feel like it's it's like
it's kind of like putting. It's

776
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.599
a lot of pressure on your like
mind when you trip, it's like really

777
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:20.800
stressful, you know, you know
what I mean, in your body afterwards

778
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:24.679
you feel just like dead point,
dude. It does that. It simulates

779
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:30.000
that it's not like you've learned anything. You know, You're not making this

780
00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:32.480
like I don't know. It just
hit me, you know. I was

781
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:36.400
like huge. I was like,
I'm never gonna do this shit again because

782
00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.599
this is a bullshit you know,
excuse my language, but yeah, anyway,

783
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:44.440
I hope that that was an awesome
epiphany whenever you had that, because

784
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:46.840
that's it's your I like I remember
saying, like, you know, it's

785
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:51.440
work to trip and like you know, oh, like damn, dude,

786
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.039
that day was crazy, Like it
wasn't like and you look back on it

787
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:59.000
and you're right, it's not like
you're usually it's pretty stressful. I mean

788
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:00.440
I kind of find it. I
don't find it that enjoy That's why I

789
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:05.639
haven't done it in so many years, because it's it's not enjoyable. I

790
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:08.239
don't think, well, I think
it's like I mean, when it's coming

791
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:12.280
down, it's enjoyable. When he
said it's pete, dude, you're you're

792
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.280
screwed up, man, You're all
out of the place. And you know,

793
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:17.800
I never found it that fun.
But that's such a good point though.

794
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:22.400
It's like trauma based up programming.
Dude. If they talk about the

795
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:27.320
serial killers and all these it's a
traumatic event and you're now more open to

796
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.880
manipulation especially, and I bet that's
what Manson did. They're they're tripping balls,

797
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:35.559
they're kind of freaking out, they're
coming down. He's whispering in their

798
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:38.000
ear, and that's the best time
it's gonna stick. They're gonna have these

799
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:43.800
realizations because they just had trauma.
Dude, you might be onto something huge.

800
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:45.519
Dude, that was awesome. Well
I wish I could have said it

801
00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:49.760
more eloquently. I couldn't get the
words out, but yeah, I mean,

802
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.559
it's that's the way I felt.
Man. I still feel that way

803
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:54.239
to this day, and I feel
like the people around me he were,

804
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:58.280
you know, just thinking that they've
learned all these things. It just come

805
00:56:58.320 --> 00:57:01.440
to me. I'm like, I
see those people afterwards, and that's totally

806
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:05.079
gone away after a few days.
Anyway. It's just kind of like,

807
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.599
you know, one of those things
that makes you feel good afterwards or whatever.

808
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:14.239
But yeah, that's my point on
it was that was a great That

809
00:57:14.360 --> 00:57:15.840
was huge. That was awesome,
dude. Wow, good for you.

810
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.920
I've never heard that before. I
think you know, people you know,

811
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:25.239
because like if you're going through a
traumatic experience, you know, it's like

812
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:30.760
it lasts quite a few hours and
uh, but not not like having a

813
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:35.079
real traumatic experience in your life.
And so I went through in just a

814
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.239
few hours something really stressful on your
mind and your body, and and then

815
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:42.840
you're open to uh, you know, believe and when you start to come

816
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:46.039
down, you all you also feel
you're glad you're starting to come down,

817
00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:50.760
you know, so you're kind of
like thinking of all these things. And

818
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.199
so anyway, dude, No,
that's and that like helps me. You

819
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:55.960
know, sometimes things just click in
my I'm not as smart as a lot

820
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.280
of people, but I here something
like now makes so much sense to like

821
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:04.559
this and not that, um,
you know, Dave McGowan's books didn't make

822
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:07.880
sense, but now I can get
Aggrat's a great I can, you know,

823
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:13.000
imagine in my head now because I
never really had something super traumatic happened

824
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:15.960
to me. So when he writes
about that, how this is how they

825
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:19.239
brainwash, you know, create an
alter ego. Yeah, I'm reading it,

826
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:21.480
but I can't really understand it.
But the way you just said that,

827
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:25.440
dude, that's exactly it. You're
you're you're just like, oh God,

828
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:30.000
and you have somebody that comes over
that's reassuring, that's supportive, that's

829
00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:34.000
helpful. You're you're gonna be somebody
that's much more willing to listen to their

830
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:38.800
advice follow their orders if you're this
trauma broken down individual too. Yeah,

831
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:44.679
and especially you know, especially,
you know, if like they've kind of

832
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.000
like given you these if you're going, especially like you're going to a place

833
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:52.000
like you mentioned, and and they're
kind of you've already got these preconceived ideas

834
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:54.119
of what's going to happen in your
mind because of like you've watched Joe Rogan

835
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:59.199
or you know, somebody like that
talk about these these different things. I

836
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:01.880
can imagine it can be really you
could just imagine that certain things were real

837
00:59:01.960 --> 00:59:07.079
and they're not at all. Dude, Man, what a great way to

838
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.039
end the I wish we led with
that. I'm gonna be thinking about this

839
00:59:09.119 --> 00:59:13.440
all night. That was so good. Wow, that just puts into such

840
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:17.360
perspective for somebody like me who hasn't
had, you know, very dramatic life.

841
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:22.440
But that after those things and you're
right and you think you you think

842
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:27.000
you learned something, or you come
out with like this idea that you had

843
00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:30.960
a realization when often it was you
know, very miniscule realization. But that's

844
00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:35.119
that's great too. Well, where
can people listen to you? Are you

845
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.800
on YouTube or no, I'm not, okay, someone in the chat ass,

846
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.199
but where can people find j od
Man and all that stuff? Yeah,

847
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:45.400
man, so thank you for having
me, and you can find me

848
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:52.039
an underscore the odd Man Out on
Twitter and Instagram and in the profiles there

849
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:55.360
you can find all my other links. I'm on podbean and The odd Man

850
00:59:55.360 --> 01:00:00.679
Out dot podbean dot com. So
that's where the show is. And yeah,

851
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:05.559
I preach about twenty people watching,
So thank you all the people in

852
01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.320
the chat. I'll be I'll promised
to do better. I've just been my

853
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:13.000
floor. I've been so busy,
so but I'm slow. I'm finally almost

854
01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:16.000
done. We've got the bedroom left. So next week i'll I'm reading the

855
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:22.320
politics of Heroin and so we'll start
going down that road. And uh yeah,

856
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:23.519
so that's it, guys. I'm
Jack Allen. Follow me at co

857
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:29.320
Jack Podcast. Thanks for listening everybody, and I'll see you soon. Take care