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Well, now it is time for this

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week's episode. I follow events the
original airdate March the seventh of nineteen fifty

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and the title as The Church Murder
Case Arm and I'm a boy. Thank

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you, sir. Sorry to make
you come out to my home with those

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papers, but I didn't need them. That's all right, mister Church.

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Yeah, there they are, if
you'll sign them out, take them back

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to the office in the morning.
Very good, Paul, Very good.

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Nothing like having a conscientious assistant.
Thank you. Have a smoke, boy,

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have one here right in his box? Thank you. Wait a minute,

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out, I'll light it for you. Here we are, Thank you,

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sir. I'm glad you came out, Paul. It's kind of lonesome

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out here in this big house with
nobody to talk to except that buddy cut

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in mine. Glad you came out. I can't stay. You should have

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seen your face. It's not so
funny. You should have seen your face

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with that thing exploding. Ah,
it was wonderful. You think so.

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It's an old bag button, Stuart. That's the funniest thing I ever thought.

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Well, it wasn't to me.
I don't think practical jokes are very

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funny. Oh you don't, no, Now, isn't that too bad?

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Maybe I don't think a lot of
things are funny either. Like what's happening

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to the books in my office?
What do you mean, sir? You

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know what I mean. I've been
juggled around. It's been a lot of

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money taken from my business in the
past six months, and I didn't take

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it. Mister It had to be
either you or miss Kraft, but we

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weren't go into that right now,
shake hands, boy, so we'll know.

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There's no hard feelings about that little
explosion. All right, good night,

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good night? That buzz are always
getting funny. Yeah, we'll come

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over again for come over again.
And don't worry about that money you've taken

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from me. I have plenty of
time to do something about it if I

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decide to. Can't you stop that
typing for a minute? And why sure?

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I suppose so? Why? Oh? Now what? And something's got

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to be done about the boss?
Sounds like melodrama? Now please listen.

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What will you bet? Nothing has
to be done about the boss? That

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you and I are normal people.
That outside of the fact that mister Church

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is a little eccentric with his practical
jokes, he's pretty normal too. Look

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at it isn't anything to kid about, darling. I'm completely serious. Look,

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you tell me what's wrong with this
situation. You and I have good

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jobs, we're in love. At
least you try to convince me that you're

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in love with me, and I'm
quite sure I am with you. So

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what's wrong? Mister Church? Knows
that there's been money disappearing from his safe

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here in the office. He let
me know he can send me to jail

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anytime he likes. Oh no,
that's the way it is. Now.

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Do you still think nothing has to
be done about the boss? Well?

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Do you? I'm not sure?
And do yes? You know how I

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feel about you, and nothing will
happen to us, providing something does happen

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to mister Church. Good morning,
Miss Daring. Why Vans you're in early?

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Good morning? Right back at you. I've got some typing to do

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and there's nothing in the mail that
would interest you. Mistrict Attorney Markham call

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no, not yet and Vans,
Yes, I'm taking Judo lessons. What

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was that? You know? Judo? It's the science of self depends where

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the frailest woman can successfully defend yourself
against the strongest man. Said that in

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the book, the theory being that
leverage applied correctly can overcome muscular strength.

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Well, that's almost exactly what the
instructor told us last night. Here let

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me show you all right now,
Look, you're a holdup man. Use

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meeke up and back up. If
I take off my hat first, you're

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a holdup man, not a gentleman. Very well, the had stays on.

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Now what do I do? You're
a holdup man and you're in back

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of me, but I don't know
you're there? You see now, come

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on st Oh you scared me.
I guess that's a general idea, though,

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isn't it. Now I'm supposed to
kick back with my heel and get

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you in the ankle, oh Vans, Yes, I guess I forgot to

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mention you're supposed to stand still.
I'm sorry. What happens if the holdup

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man doesn't stand still? Well,
I guess I'll find that out in my

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second Listen. Eventually I throw him
off my shoulder. Though not bad,

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not bad except for the holdup man? O him? Who cares about him?

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Never mind, Ellen, I'll get
it to sell. Come to think

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of it, I must remember that
mindspect to what death happening? Hello,

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Man's Markham. Hello, I'm a
friend and a nice fresh murders at the

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District Attorney's office, needing a first
class solution. Not at the moment anything

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doing at your place. Ellen was
just trying to throw me over her shoulders.

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Well, things are pretty She was
trying to do what she's practicing judo

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in case a hold up man sneaks
up in back of her. She wants

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to be able to defend herself and
her worldly possessions, which at the moment

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consists mainly of a wristwatch. How
is she doing with her judo? If

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a hold up man gets near her
to night when she gets home, somebody

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better tell her the time. Not
too good. A man's there is a

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little excitement down here, but nothing
of importance. Pretty much routine. You

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over here of Sydney Church, I
think so practical joker, very wealthy,

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semi retired. That's the man.
He called to say he suspected his assistant

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Paul Wilson, of systematically robbing him. Intends to file a former complaint soon,

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he says myself him to warn you. I'll call you later and see

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how you're fixed for lunch. Shouldn't
have it so a long man, goodbye.

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That's I know what I did wrong. I've got a lot, a

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lot of work to do. But
as soon as I'm finished, let's try

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that hold up thing again. If
you like, Ellen, I'll look forward

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to being thrown over backwards. Wonderful. It's fabulous, Thank you, I

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got it right. It's again,
yes, do now all anybody does he

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sit down on this cushion. That's
wonderful. Well, I have fun with

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it. I thought you'd like it, mister Churchill, I originated dead.

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Well, all I can say is
that you're a genius. A genius.

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I've never seen anything quite like Well, now, I bet you never heard

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anything like it either. You really
like? Oh it's just what I always

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wanted. Splendid, splendid. Let
me see if I know how to operate

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you lorded with blank cartridges right here, that's right bottom in the seat,

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and then when somebody sits on it. Mister Williams, I'm hand buzzer,

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the itching powder, that, the
driple glass. Everything. Well, you've

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you've made me so happy, mister
church I want you to know that I

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keep working on new things for you. I've got an idea for a gimmick

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that What was that? I'm sorry, I guess I just can't help being

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clumsy. What are you doing in
here? Terry? I'm your bodyguard and

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nigi wiz I heard shots in here, so I took out my gun and

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came in nice and quiet. Only
our tripped over the ruck and my gun

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went off. Fine bodyguard oh,
um, Terry, Yes, come over

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here a minute, will ready here
next to me. That's right, you're

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not sore at me. Imagine he
thinks I'm angry at a mister Williams.

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Imagine who you wouldn't get right down? Terry? Right there, mister Terry,

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you're one of them. Mister Williams. You one who's this new device

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of yours? It's one. Thank
you. I haven't had such fun at

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you, and I won't have as
much fun again until I send Forsten to

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prison William's novelty shop. Mister william
Speaking. All right, this is Church,

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William Y that pillar you sold me, the one that fires a blank

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cartridge when somebody sits on a day. Oh yes, yes, mister Church.

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It's in my safe now the rest
of my little lap entertainment devices.

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But I want three more. I'm
going to give a dinner party, and

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I want three more. When is
your party, mister Church? When as

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soon as you have the pillars ready? Of course? Excuse me a minute,

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Yes, I have company. Wow
what are you doing here? No,

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no, mister Church, mister Church, mister Chuch, Hello Ellen,

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Hi, mister Markham, where's oh? Come on in? Thank you?

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The bosses at the barber's. What's
up that mister Church I told him about

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on the telephone one that was going
to have his assistant Paul Wilson and died

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it for grandlaw's name. Yes,
I overheard your conversation. What about mister

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Church. There's very little about him
right now. He's dead, been shot

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shot. Somebody came into his house
an hour or so ago, kill him

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and robbed his safe which was open. Oh golly, this Church individual was

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quite a character, wasn't he.
He certainly was. Oh, it's teasing

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people with flowers that shoot water and
stuff like that. Yes, we know,

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of course the Church believed Paul Wilson
was stealing from him, and Wilson

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knew that Church was in contact with
me. There's nothing at the house,

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however, to indicate who fired the
shot into our eccentric friend. Well,

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Vance will fund something, doesn't he
always invariably. I'm going out of the

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barbers to pick him up. And
after that our first stop is going to

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be Paul Wilson's apartment. A completely
logical move, Markham. It would be

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the first thing I do. Wilson
is your number one suspect, Believe me,

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I think so. Too, vants, that's the reason I wanted you

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with me when I came to call
on him. This is a poping right

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here. The landlady said, did
you hear that? Markham? Somebody in

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this apartment's hurt. We've got to
get in there. I wasn't blocked.

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Well, come on in a light
switch. Vans should be alongside the door

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somewhere, vants. That boy's hurt
pretty badly? Is he Wilson? I

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don't know. Probably will we shot
you? Better get this boy to the

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hospital. Better call Markham. Phones
over there. I have an idea about

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this shooting, though. It'll hold
Walt Markham. Yes, I think so.

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Operator, This is just your attorney, Markham. Send an ambulance to

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a popping thirty five at the doll
And Arms right away. How is he?

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Vans and sign of being able to
talk to us? In and out

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of his shoulders near as I can
make out. I fixed a temporary bandage

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that on a hole until the ambulance
gets here. Well, this complicates our

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case, don't you think? Maybe
he only? I have a completely different

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idea. I think Wilson here killed
Sydney Church, then came back here to

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his apartment and tried to commit suicide
by shooting himself in the shoulder, all

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right. Then he tried to make
it look as if he was shot by

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whoever it was that killed Church.
He didn't want us to suspect him,

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so he rigged this little production.
You think that, certainly we'll probably find

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the gun downstairs in the alley where
he threw it out the window. I

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don't care whether he tried to kill
himself or whether he tried to make it

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look as if somebody else was trying
to kill him. In either case,

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he was looking for an out after
shooting Sydney Church. He's guilty. That,

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of course, is very possible.
Markham. Huh. It doesn't make

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me feel a bit better to say
this to you, But I don't agree

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with that at all. This is
just your attorney, Markham. The Church

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murder case opened with the shooting of
Sydney Church, wealthy practical joker who had

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previously reported to me that he suspected
an employee, Paul Wilson, of stealing

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Poe Vans. And I found Wilson
shot. And although I'm convinced that the

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wound was self, Inflickted Vance thinks
otherwise. Vance and I are in the

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hospital. Were now trying to get
the truth out of Wilson. We've kept

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information about this from the newspapers.
All right, wissenspose you tell Vans to

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me? Now, who shot you? I can't. I don't know who

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did it. I never saw.
That doesn't sound very logical. I don't

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care how it sounds. I was
sitting with my back to the door.

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I heard it open. I started
to turn around before I could see who

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it was. I was shot and
I must have passed out. There must

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have been a silencer on the gun. Didn't sound like a shot. In

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that case. Markham will know if
he's telling the truth when the medical examiner

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gives you his report. The bullet
went in the back of the shoulder and

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out the front. I think we
can assume that Wilson couldn't have shot him.

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So maybe we can and maybe we
can't. It all depends on the

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angle of the bullet. That,
of course is true. Wilson. Yeah,

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you were stealing from mister Church.
He knew about it. You believed

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he was about to report you to
me. You broke into his house,

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killed him and robbed his saved,
didn't you? Please? Mister Martin,

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Please leave me alone. My shoulders
pretty bad. It hurts. You have

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been to mister Wilson's home, Yes, yes, I have not to kill

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him. Now leave me alone,
will you? Let's go ans. I

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won't need a police guard outside his
hospital door. Our friend, mister Wilson

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feels like talking. He'll let the
nurse know and will come back. You

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will come back, Markham. I
doubt whether it will be necessary for me

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to come here again. How are
we supposed to add when we talk to

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a landlady. I don't know,
Ellen, I guarantee one thing. You

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are not to try to throw her
over your shoulder. Promise. Sure chances

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are with my luck to the landlady
is taking two Judo lessons. You know

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we're all one that I don't know
where? Just how well? Ellen,

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Let's see what she can tell us
about her tenant, the slightly shut up

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mister Paul Wilson. Maybe she has
an extra apartment she'd liked. Lazy Markram

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has his way, She's going to
have one, Paul Wilson's. Yeah,

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what is it if you're selling anything? I don't want me don't want to

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rent an apartment. I ain't got
me. If you just want to waste

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time. I don't have anything.
How do you do? My name is

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Vilo Vans. You don't say,
well, I can't use any of that

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either. What do you too want? You want to know something about Paul

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Wilson. Paul Wilson, Oh,
it's fine. He's in my place two

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days and gets himself shot. Don't
see his girlfriend and Craft? She lives

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right next door. If anybody ought
to know anything about him, she should,

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You say, Paul Wilson only lived
here two days when he was as

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what I said? Ain't it so
matter? You're hearing bad diary? Two

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days ago he took the apartment here
and this Craft girl were going to be

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married. And that's all I know. Good day, Thank you, missus

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Smith. Who now there's a character
to try my judo on. You better

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go home and practice, ELDM.
I'm going to call on miss Kraft.

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Will you call me and let me
know what happened? Yes? I will.

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Well in that case, don't think
it hasn't been charming. See you

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later. Yes, I'm follow Vans. May I come in? Well?

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Yes, I suppose. So what
is it you want? I want to

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talk to you about your fiance?
Paul Wilson don't mention his name to me.

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I never want to see him again. We had an appointment last night

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and never kept it. He hasn't
been in his apartment all night. He

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couldn't very well be. He's in
the hospital. Oh no, he's been

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shot. Where what hospital? What
happened to him? Tell me what happened

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to Paul. I'll get my head
and caught. Please tell me what happened

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while I get them. We don't
know that closet door stuck. I'll help

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you with Oh, never mind,
like it there please? Sorry, mister

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Bean's telling me what happened to Paul
and where he is. He's in the

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Baker hospital. He's not hurt badly. Oh thank goodness. If you want

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to know anything, come back some
other time, please, Mister Ben's not

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now. I've got to get to
pol wisdom. Mister Wilson, if you

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say so, okay, but you
sure you know what you're doing? Of

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course I know, Terry. You
and I have to stick together, don't

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we. Yeah we both used to
work for mister Church, didn't we.

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Yeah? We work hand me that
glass of water issue? Sure? She

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wisom. I'm sorry now, I
guess I'm just clumsy. That. That's

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why I decided to be a bodyguard. Nobody cares how clumsy bodyguard is.

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Yeah. Look, mister Wilson,
do you know what you're doing? Of

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course? Well, I mean after
role you were shot and everything, and

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you could be a little touched,
you know, I'm not. I'm not

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take this money. That's all.
I have. A thousand dollars, doesn't

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I kept it under my pillow for
safekeeping. I'm glad now that I did

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take it. Terry, it's yours. She whizz. Okay, you know

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I couldn't figure out what you wanted
when you called me on the telephone,

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but she wiz if it was to
give me your grand call again? Will

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you mister Wilson, Now you understand
what you're supposed to do? Oh sure,

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sure, Just not saying nothing about
seeing nobody around the house just before

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mister Church was killed. That's right, you can trust me, mister Wilson.

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Well so long, I'm what's the
matter with you? I think I

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knocked over the thermometer. You see
what I told you? I can't have

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it tough? Oh what happened to
you? Who told you? I was

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here? District Attorney wouldn't let anybody
know, and I didn't. I didn't

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call you because I didn't. I
didn't want to worry you. Never mind

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that. How do you feel?
I live all right, Terry? That's

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all. Who's here? Nobody?
So long? Terry? Oh yeah,

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she was? Yeah, so long. I miss nice to met you all

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some of the time. Maybe,
Oh, Paul, what's happened? First

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mister Church was killed? Then nobody
could find you. It's what you and

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I decided, isn't it. If
nothing was going to happen to us,

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something had to happen to mister Church, didn't it. I don't care if

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your name is Filodvance or anything else. Nobody can come in here and talk

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tough to me, Terry. I
want to know where you got the money

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to buy those new clothes. Tell
me I found it. I get out

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of here before I throw you.
Terry, listened to me you were mister

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Church's bodyguard. You decide, yes, you want me to throw you out

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of here? You're ready to get
to us? That hardly? Okay?

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You had your chance, And I
see how you like this? You very

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much? If you look out see
whisky, I ain't even a very good

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somebody guard for myself. Yeah,
let me help you up there we are

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now. Look, Terry, I
came here to talk to you. I

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found you with an armful of new
clothes and a lot of money lying around

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almost six hundred dollars I got let
from what well from the thousand that poor

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Wilson game me. So I shouldn't
say I saw nobody around the joint when

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mister Church got killed. It was
all it though he had too kind of

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stupid. It was stupid? Why
because what could I tell anybody? I

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didn't see nobody around the house.
Not a soul As far as I know,

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mister Church could have dropped dead.
And you know mister Vans from what

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people say, with his practical jokes
and oil, that wouldn't have been such

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a bad idea. They're safe here
in the church house. Interest you Vents

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very much, Mark, That's why
I asked your permission to see it.

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It's not a lot. Go ahead
and open it if you want. It

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contains a lot of the tricks Church
used to like to play on people.

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Also a lot of money. As
we understand it, there was a lot

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of money, but not when we
found it. Whoever killed Church took that?

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Or are you going to dispute that
point too. No, I'm inclined

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to agree with it's good? What's
this supreme itching powder? Is that funny?

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Not to me? All those dribble
glasses either, all that handshake buzzer

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over there? Church wasn't murdered.
He just gimmicked himself to death. Or

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don't take me seriously, Margam,
what would you say this was? That's

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the tin box where Church kept his
money? Really? I bless you,

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thank you. Apparently our dead friend
used sneezing powder in his lighter moments.

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Yes, hilarious, hobby. Don't
you think I'm not thinking anything except that

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you asked me not to arrest Paul
Wilson and we haven't found any other suspect

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to take his place. You mean
you want to know who killed Sydney Church.

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I most definitely do. I can
tell you that good. I can

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also tell you where to find the
rest of the money that was here.

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I think after you send Sergeant Heath
to pick up Wilson's girlfriend and craft or

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murder, write down everything that goes
on in here. Ellen, Please,

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maybe it's twenty fans. I'll do
it. Good. Go ahead, Paul,

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you were talking to miss Kraft all
I wanted to know is why she

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did it? Why did you do
it? Anne? You think I wanted

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to go to jail for stealing from
the company, but you wouldn't have gone

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to jail. Anna. I was
protecting you and doing quite a good job

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of it too, Miss Craft,
if I may say so. Who cares

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what you say? Fans? This
stupid guy tried to spoil everything. You

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shot him, didn't you? Sure? I'll tell you everything now. He

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found the money I took from Church's
apartment in my closet. What's the they're

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holding out? Yeah? I killed
Church and I I shot Paul. I

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knew you'd shot me, and but
I still loved you. I still wouldn't

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have told old what that it was
I who was stealing from the office.

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Church figured it was Paul. I
think my boyfriend would have taken the rap

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for me, but I didn't want
it that way. I saw how I

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could get rid of him, grabbed
myself some money and being the clear you

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you really wanted to kill me?
Sure? What are you a bargain?

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And I meant to kill you in
your room, put the gun on your

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hand and make it look like suicide. And I didn't want you to see

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me when you started to turn around, I shot. How was I don't

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know you were so in love with
me. You'd never talked. I told

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you, that, didn't ye?
You told me. Guys say a lot

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of things, but I meant fence. How did you know I did it?

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If you really want to know why
I knew you were the killer,

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We've got to go back to your
apartment for what. Look in your closet

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where the police found the money from
Church's safe. Once I knew you'd taken

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it, I knew you were the
murderer, all right, But how did

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you know? I'm a title of
no that Church kept sneezing powder in the

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box where he kept his money.
When you opened your closet door yesterday to

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get your coat, remember you sneezed, So that's what it was. That's

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what it was when I saw churches
safe. Later did a little sneezing myself.

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When the powder got into my nostrils. I realized what must have made

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you sneeze. It was the money
that had been lying in the safe,

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next to the sneezing powder, which
you had hidden in your closet. Fine

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thing, old man Church still playing
practical jokes after he's did I think maybe

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I'm going to have the last laugh. I think I can make a breakup.

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You think I did it. I
did it with my little Juno not

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lookally lying on the floor. I
must have knocked the wind out of her.

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Oh, you most certainly did,
Ellen, I did. I guess

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it's time we turned this young lady
over to mister Markham. I don't think

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she knew what she was getting herself
into when she started still and from her

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employer in the beginning. All I
know is that we're at the end of

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the Church murder case. The Welcome
Back. Well, this episode definitely has

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a view on practical jokers, not
as people who are jolly, but people

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who are obnoxious and even cruel.
Nevertheless, despite this obvious view of the

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writers, he gets the last laugh
as one of his pranks ultimately leads to

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the reveal of his murderer. And
I have to say that using sneezing powder

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to protect your money is a very
unique tactic that certainly was enough to boil

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any amateur thieves in his office.
Though it's ironic because as much money as

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he had, that was nothing to
sneeze at. But upon a site there

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might be some experts in how sneezing
powder works that might want to chime in

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as to whether the sneezing power order
would be effective. I'm just kind of

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going with it, although we were
kind of reminded of the research issues that

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they can have on this show,
because I'm kind of dubious that Ellen would

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be into throwing people after her first
Judo lesson, because generally the martial arts

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don't start off with that sort of
lesson, usually doing more foundational stuff in

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early lessons. Arkham's big jump here
to pen the murder onto the mail clerk

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pulls to mind the Homesyan axiom.
It's a capital mistake to theorize before one

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has data. Sensibly one begins to
twist facts to suit theories instead of theories

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to suit facts. And you felt
that with Barkham reaching the conclusion that the

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gunshot wound was self inflected, there
is a way of committing suicide or throwing

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police off the trail, and Markham
even guessed that they would find specific evidence

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to support his conclusion. Advance seemed
to be taken aback a little bit.

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It was like a suicide by shooting
himself in the shoulder. Well, at

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any rate. Now we turned to
a listener comments and feedback. Ronser wrote

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in regarding the Michael Piper Detective episode
Canada Dry. Still around Canada Dry,

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the sponsor of that series, but
mostly known for Ginger rail, There was

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a bottling plant just off the Garden
State Parkway with a Canada Dry bottle,

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probably a water tower. Later the
plant was purchased by perhaps Blue Ribbon,

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and you guessed it, the bottle
changed from soda to beer. Well,

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thanks so much. Yeah, a
good local insight, and I enjoy a

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nice Canada Dry diet ginger, although
I don't indulge in it all that often,

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mainly because the price of off drinks
has gone up so much so and

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I'm too cheap, too near as
often as I used to. Then we

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have a comment from Pete, who
writes, I've been listening to various broadcasts

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for a while now I notice you
take complaints about your commentary in the show

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ads. These are totally unfair.
You've got a natural delivery and keen insight

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that I always enjoy. Also,
the ads of defunct sponsors like Rexall or

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Petrie Wines are all part of the
old time radio experience. Keep up the

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good work and don't get discouraged.
Well, thank you so much, Pete.

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I appreciate the encouragement. I've been
recording for so many years, and

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I like to think that over the
years that we've been doing this that I've

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gotten better at dealing with constructive criticism
and at weeding out the destructive sort of

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criticism. A long ago stopped reading
like absolute hateful comments with no redeeming value

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because I realized that wasn't the type
of thing I wanted to focus on the

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podcast. And thankfully, these sort
of comments are few and far between,

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and they're not anything extraordinary or overwhelming. It just tends to be the typical

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thing. If you create anything online, you're going to get people who will

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just be nasty. And I've gotten
to the point where most of the time

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it doesn't bother me much. Though
sometimes you know, if you're having a

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really bad day already and then you
just get that hate message and it just

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makes your day a little worse.
At those times, it is really helpful

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to be able to call to mind
all of the great supportive comments that we've

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gotten from so many great listeners,
and so I really do appreciate your encouragement.

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It is such a blessing. Now, one thing I do want to

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mention here because you mentioned Rexall being
a defunct brand, and I was kind

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of confused by that because I remember
buying something with a Rexall brand name,

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you know, in the last year, and so I looked into it.

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And it's a little bit of a
confusing situation. To borrow a bit from

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the Princess Bride. Rexall is not
dead, but it is mostly dead in

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the United States. Anyway, if
you're one of our Canadian listeners, you're

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like, I don't know what you're
talking about, because there are a lot

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of Rexall drug stores in Canada.
It's run by a separate company and it's

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a fairly significant concern. In the
United States, there were more than twelve

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thousand independent Rexall drug stores in operation, and they also manufactured and sold their

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own brand of drugs and medical supplies. Now the chain of stores as a

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chain is no more. There's no
corporate office, there's nothing in place.

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There's no affiliation of Rexall pharmacies,
but there is the brand of medical supplies,

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and the Rexall brand for medical supplies
was acquired through Dollar General. Now

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I have to admit I'm a little
vague how anything owned by Dollar General have

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come to Boise, because the only
Dollar General in the state is eight hours

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away. But somehow Dollar Generals Rexall
supplies made it to Boise. And I

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have to say that I've listened to
a lot of Rexall sponsored programs. You

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know, Richard Diamond over NBC was
sponsored by Rexhall, and I loved Jimmy

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Duranti, and Rexall also sponsored Duranty. And I'd had a Rexall pharmacy in

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a small town I spent my teen
years in, and I saw all of

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these Rexall medical supplies and found myself
strongly drawn to them, even though I

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had no immediate need for them whatsoever. It's like, I know, I

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don't need it, but it's labeled
Rexhall. So those radio ads were really

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effective. So Rexall's around in that
way. It's also around in another way,

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in a way that's kind of vanishing, and that is that even though

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the chain is defunct, you will
still have pharmacies out there that will have

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their the name of the pharmacy as
still a Rexall pharmacy. You know that

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if it was called Bob's Rexall Pharmacy
for decades and decades and decades. Why

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go and change all of your business
cards, your signs, your decor why

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not instead just keep doing what you're
doing. There's no one charging you for

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doing it, and you're still the
same pharmacy you've always been. I had

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listeners actually send me pictures, you
know, when they were out and about

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or traveling, they would come across
Rexall pharmacies. Now it does seem like

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that there are decreasing number, but
I was able to find at least one

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that still is using the Rexall branding. So Rexall a mostly dead brand,

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but through the fuller general that part
that's not quite dead is kind of inner

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test. Thank you once again for
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Follow Vans, But coming up tomorrow,

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listen to yours truly, Johnny doll
Or Where I was getting nowhere in the

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way things were. Half an hour
later, as I was standing out of

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my room to go pick her up, my phone rang. It was a

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long distance call from the States,
and welcome to an audition fidelity Johnny.

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Hi, Freddy, Well, how's
a fishing down there? Fishing? A

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matter of fact, it hasn't been
so good so far. Fred, that's

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too bad. But I'll bet the
swimming is all right. Now? Whoa

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there? What's eating you? Vacation? Well you've got a great sense of

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humor. You should see this place. Vacation. What do you think I've

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been doing. I've been looking for
whoever it was the telephone? You didn't

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said he had information on Alvin Summers. Couldn't have been looking very hard.

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He called me again this morning.
He what that's right? He wondered if

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I'd send anyone down there yet.
Hey, look, Fred, this guy

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is not easy to find. Believe
me. And I think I know why.

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Obviously, somebody doesn't want him to
talk, and that's somebody could be

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Alvin Summers about one jump behind him. I hope you'll be with us then.

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