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just in case. That's fair.
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Good go strong, Let me juice
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hell yeah? All right, all
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recording part of it. Welcome to. I was hanging out on the live

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UM Welcome to episode. What is
this one forty nine of clips and Dip?

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We are fully back part of the
two and three hoops Umpire Triumphant Return.

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I think the Lab of the Jam
the pod had an episode yesterday,

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so we're just giving it to you
from all angles on the Clippers offseason.

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I am Chuck Mockler, joined by
Adam Auslin Will Updike. We got a

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lot of awesome stuff to talk about. We're gonna answering your questions. Michael

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Wingers out is the GM. There's
rumors to go over, but the people

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really want to know. Most importantly, how are you two doing? Will?

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I'll start with you. It's been
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How are you doing? Buddy?
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like the last time they saw me, he was the last time they saw

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everybody well, you know, I'll
doing good, doing good man really boring

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Western Conference Finals. Yep, you
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a part of that. But maybe
maybe another time, would it have We

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could have helped a boring factor or
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I mean, if the Clippers were
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done though. So that's true,
That's very true. Adam, have you

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been you were in Tennessee. You've
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about a little bit, taking some
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are now. So it's been good. It's gonna be back with you guys.

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I know, I missed the last
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so I missed a lot. But
I'm glad we got this one today

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and a little bit of breaking news
just about a half hour ago. Yeah,

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let's get into that before we get
into these awesome questions. People sent

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us questions over on Twitter at Clippers
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good time over there. Yeah.
So, Michael Winger has agreed to become

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the president of Monumental Basketball, which
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As well as their ge league affiliate, the Go Go and w NBA

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team, Like everybody in Washington,
it's at the General's Like, I mean

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it might like it might include that. But what this means for the Clippers

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is a lot of people kind of
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that he's out at Golden State.
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Bob Meyers to come to the Clippers. But will correct me if I'm wrong

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in this thinking. We have Lawrence
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Myers is gonna come be the one, the number two to Lawrence Frank,

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terms of changing the Clippers what the
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this. There definitely are some clear
issues on the roster. I don't know

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that you need Bob Myers to really
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themselves out like a sore thumb.
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that, Like it's just I don't
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really. I mean, I mean, like there are moves and tweets to

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be made to be sure. Yeah, but like you know, if you

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only have it just still comes back
to for me, if if sixty six

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percent of your payroll plays thirty three
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I don't know. I don't know
what Bob Myers is going to do for

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that. You have everybody some lemon
water. I don't know. Well,

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I would say, if you can
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you do that. I don't know
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so it's like two head GM guys. I just liked the idea of having

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bigger having a bigger brain trust isn't
a bad thing. If everyone's thinking the

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same thing nobody's thinking. I think
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Now, to be clear, Bob
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didn't draft Clay Thompson. He did
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Kerr, Andre Godala, Kevin Durant, Jordan Poole. He's made a lot

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of great moves, but he wasn't
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was the other understudy. Still,
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it's not just about the name.
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with the Golden State, the most
recent dynasty in the NBA. So I

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think if you have a chance to
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into that. I don't know if
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cure all for the Clippers. I
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see the nick name come and now
the wheels are turning with Will. Let's

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get big started here. You know
I can't spell past. Yeah, I

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was like, what isn't that?
But somebody who's a cure all for this

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Clippers team. I don't think it's
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any one player. I think it's
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luck, some good fortune, some
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there are two teams and conference finals
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being a seventh seed and the Miami
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said before the season, you know, no team has won a championship that

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was outside the top three in the
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back in ninety five and the Miami
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NBA Finals taking on the Denver Nuggets
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in the NBA has changed, and
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some good fortune along the way.
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tournament. They lost the first game
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bull So a lot of things have
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is on the docket coming up for
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comment on the chat, Alan said, don't think Myers will retain Tye.

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the brain trust is making these decisions, if you're staring at the decision of

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either getting rid of Lawrence Frank or
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body of work between the two guys
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Meyers fits into that equation. Yeah. Well, there's also talked too,

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like the Tylu thing, which kind
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a little bit like he might be
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No one really asked about this and
the questions where I thought that was

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interesting. Where are you guys at
Do you think that's real or do you

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think that's maybe more his representation,
which it's clutch. I'm not into the

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whole like clutch conspiracy thing. They
just want the most money for their guys,

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which I don't think is that revolutionary
an idea. Do you think with

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all the openings that's just kind of
posturing by them to see if the Clippers

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would entertain an extension with Tie because
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it's whatever, So do you guys
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think this was just kind of posturing
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when you have a head coach that
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with the Clippers, that's someone you
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NBA seems to know the worth of
coach Lou. I think the Clippers do

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as well, but you don't want
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on the other side of the court
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and a lot of disgruntled members of
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and there were a lot of negatives
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this season went. I think the
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seven game series, he gives you
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I think you got to hold on
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I don't know who you'd replace him
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What's your solution if you're moving on
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better coach? He's had a history
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I like coach lew in a seven
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Spoelstra probably regarded as the best coach
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bit of recency bias there, but
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His understudying Dan Craig is on the
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Do we think it's maybe something where
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thinking the extension comes into play next
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can do with Kawai and PG,
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time and then will You're not like, if that goes well, venue extend

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them out because right now it matches
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don't know about this, Like I
maybe this is the preamble to setting something

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up for a potential extension. I
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seems a little premature really from either
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years remaining or to go ahead and
extend one once again with those two years

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remaining, just because I don't know
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or fiscal sense, like once you
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blah blah blah blah blah. But
it just get perspective in here's got to

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do ten things move. I mean, things do move fast in the NBA.

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So I but I think that you
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this off season. I said I
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the bench for this team next season. And I don't really see any of

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this changing that. Um, I
would be a little surprised if they did

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the extension this early. It just
doesn't doesn't really seem necessary. And um,

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yeah, I don't know, But
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for I know, a lot of
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sort of experience to a certain extent. Um. I just think like the

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question that you have to ask yourself
is like when you're looking in the field,

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when you're like looking at the field
of available people, because it's it's

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not just about getting the guy out, you have to replace them with somebody.

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you know, in a in a

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seven game series, are you taking
one member of that field over tylu?

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would be one hundred percent comfortable with?

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And I gotta be honest, I'm
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um, you know, I haven't
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gone. I mean they've you know, they've had their own issues roster construction

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wise, blah blah blah blah blah
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But I think, I mean,
just to make it, you know,

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just just for Clippers fans, the
doc Rivers firing, which came so

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immediate, like, which came pretty
both value pretty quickly, and by all

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reports, you know, they were
ready to announce that even sooner, it

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seemed like from conversations than than when
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I think that was a situation where
you could pretty you could, I

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mean pretty objectively look at the field
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fine with, you know, a
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if, if, if it comes
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and now the coach might hire Doc, which I hope happens. I hope

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the Sun's hired Doc. Hunt.
Please hire Doc. Hope you think the

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locker rooms bad? Now, buck
up, buddy. Yeah, I think

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they end up going with Nick Nurse, who I do think is the best

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available candidate out there with the least
amount of baggage and drawbacks. But every

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coach has their blind spot, every
coach has their downside. It's just how

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fatal is it. Do you want
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or better in the postseason. I
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and somebody like ty Lou. You
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And even though it was a frustrating
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again for them, felt like most
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they were going to bounce Phoenix in
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have loved have seen this kind against
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Leonard, I think they were going
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a couple more rumors and they'll get
some questions. Apparently there's an NBA

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insider who thinks that the Clippers would
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We talked about this a bit on
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this from the Clippers side, fandom
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the regular season helps this particular era
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right, I feel like in the
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to read smoke signals, right,
Like, in some instances, a lot

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of smoke means yeah, there's probably
fire, there's probably something to Marcus Morris,

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to the Clippers exactly, and then
there is the other opposite end where

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it's like, oh wow, a
lot of smoke must mean that nothing has

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happening. Absolutely in this direction,
and you know, we saw that as

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recently as this season with Fred van
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kind of thought things were much closer
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Um, I would be absolutely shocked
by this move. I just I'm not

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I'm not seeing it. I'm not
seeing it makes too much money. Yeah,

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I don't know how. I don't
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wise, To be perfectly honest with
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we could get a little bit more
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you know, if you if you
believe that this could be a better situation,

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if you believe that he is,
you know, the tone setter,

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kind of regular, regular season guy, which maybe you can talk yourself into.

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I don't know, but like just
getting to the number I think is

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going to prove to be just too
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being feasible is it would include some
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something like that, And Phoenix just
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a lot of turnover there, and
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Maybe we'll talk about that in a
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for the right price. But he's
making thirty million dollars and he just turned

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thirty eight, and he just had
another injury riddled season, And guys who

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are injury prone in their prime aren't
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regardless of your diet and switching over
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I know a lot of people have
soured over him since he took off

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a Clipper jersey, with how things
ended with some of the antics on the

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court, with them going up against
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Finals and how that ended. But
I think if he was on the Clippers

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roster in a different role, in
the right spot, and they're not able

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to bring back Russell Westbrooks. See, this is how you talk yourself into

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really bad brandy listeners or viewers.
This is uh, this is this is

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textbook gaslighting yourself. I'm just saying, there's there's always a certain amount of

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conditions there that make a situation seem
a little bit more. He's not that

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he's not that bad. He'll be
he'll be healthy with us, he'll be

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addicted, he's addicted to go into
the finals. Bro, Look, if

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you're not giving up much at all
to get Chris Paul, I think you'd

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do it. If you're not really
giving up anything, which that's impossible.

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That's the trade that I put out
there. If they're willing to just dump

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them for salary, if they don't
think highly of them anymore. I don't

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think it's that crazy. I don't
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I hope we don't get Chris Paul
so for this. This next rumor,

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this also goes to my first question. There's a rumor that the Blazers want

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in Elite small forward and are willing
to move the number three pick and Anthony

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Simons for it, noted one of
will Updike's favorite guys, Anthony Simons.

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Jesse Beer asked us, do you
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Portland for the number three pick and
Simons? Maybe the Clips then flip the

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number three picks somewhere for another player. Let's start with the first part.

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Do we think the Clippers should explore
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pick? No? And Anthony Simons? No thinking no, No, Man

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they'd have to add also, they
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because of salary, Like it'd be
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So I mean, I guess,
I guess I get the availability. Um,

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these are just both two players that
they don't align with where the like

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where the Clippers are at right now. I mean, if if it's to

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set up another move wherein you move
Kawhi as well, then sure, I

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mean that's a great that's a great
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you know, you still have to
make salaries work, which his Simmons,

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his Simmons extension kicked in, I'm
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like, if everything else stays largely
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don't really see that that that in
no way closers the like gets the Clippers

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any closer to their coal. Yeah, he's at twenty four, So he's

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at twenty four than twenty five point
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has kicked in, all right?
Cool? Cool? Cool? Um,

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so you still got to come up
with another twelve yeah in salary with unless

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it's a precursor to bigger move where
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doesn't make a lot of sense because
if that's what happened gets you closer to

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a championship, having Anfrey Simmons and
whoever the number three pick becomes. The

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number three pick is just not getting
reps on this on this team as currently

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constructed, Like they're not Google would, they can't find playing time for them,

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Like there's just it's it doesn't make
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unless it's unless it's the precursor to
another move. Yeah, so what about

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the idea that you move three for
another player? But we don't have any

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concu So you're just downrading and downgrading
is what I'm saying. You're getting PG

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and I'm taking the weird value.
The worst player who's like younger is going

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to have a lot of issues,
you know, in their first real postseason

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run, assuming the Clippers can even
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of that, and then you're gonna
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worthless essentially after you've drafted it.
I just ye, once again, it

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just doesn't get us any closer.
I like Anthony Simons a lot in the

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right situation, but you mentioned his
playoff experience. He's been in fifteen games

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total, averaging five points per games. As good as he has looked offensively,

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I think he averaged around twenty last
year in efficient twenty, but he

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doesn't offer a lot on the defensive
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drop off there. Giving up Paul
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you're creating new problems and you're not
getting any closer. You're getting further away

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from winning a championship this season.
As much as you want to say,

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well, Paul George's injury prone,
Kawhi's injury prone, and those are the

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facts at this point. But at
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you have a chance. Anthony Simons
could be available for all eighty two and

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all the playoff games, and you're
not winning. That's the truth. If

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you're giving up Paul George to get
him, you already know what your ceiling

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is. So that's the difference right
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one of the better young players.
He is has a ton of talent offensively,

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but it's mostly one dimensional right now
with just his scoring ability. He's

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not a great playmaker and he can't
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it's a it's a swing that I
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if I guess we did this straight
and then moved Kauai, then we're just

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in full like rebuild Bode. Basically, we've just instituted like a really quick

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rebuild boat with a coach who called
me crazy. I don't think tylu wants

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to coach a team that just traded
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since he's been there anyway for rookies. And what does this mean for Kauai

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who wanted to play with Paul George
If you're keeping Kawa is heartless. So

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I don't and I don't mean that
been a bad way. It's just how

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big hear me out on this one. But his normal Powell an elite small

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forward some set you could you could
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for fucking silence and the three.
Yeah, call it in if it works

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per the rules, call it in
right now. I know Portland's had a

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lot of turnover with the front office, but I think they're pretty familiar with

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Norman Powell, and maybe that one
gets lost in the shuffle. They're just

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so busy. They're like, ah, sure, yeah, no, that

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seems good. Who's this Robert Cummington
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Yeah, then they make an happen. I like that idea. Will Um

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But before we get into these questions that

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Charles so thoughtfully put into the rundown, Thank you, Charles. X Mongo

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Project wants to know if Boston falls, is anyone there a realistic if Boston

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falls. X Mongo still believes,
I don't know. Do you think I

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think they're firing their coach before they
trade anybody I agree they don't like for

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the right price. It seems like
Jalen Brown could be dangled at this point

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if they lose in Game five at
home, or lose poorly. Even that

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just them extending in the series isn't
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I don't think they should if you
have two guys that are still I think

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both under twenty eight years of age, with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum at

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the wings, like sixteen right,
yeah, sixteen plus three he gets nineteen,

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he's only nineteen. Yeah. If
when you have two elite players at

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that position, I would keep them
together and stay the course and run it

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back. But I could see them
being in Boston in that big market.

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They've won one championship I think over
the last about forty years now in two

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thousand and eight, they're growing impatient
there. Would I would make a call

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and see what's going on with Jalen
Brown, the other guys. Grant Williams,

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I know he fired up Jimmy Butler
because that's the only way Jimmy Butler

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would play really hard out there,
because if he had some guy talking as

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to him. But Grant Williams.
I think we talked about him before.

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He's gonna be an unrestricted free agent, so he's very much attainable this summer.

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I don't know what price he's gonna
be at, but he's someone who

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plays bigger than his size. You
know, he plays a wind. Lawrence

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Frank or l Frank talk about it
as a size up, can defend a

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size up or a position up.
He's someone that can do that. I

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like him. Yeah. His so
his qualifying offer would be eight point four

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million, and I bet he can
get a lot more than that. So

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I wonder if the Clips can afford
him. Um? Yeah, Jaylen Brown,

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I think Marcus Smart would never come. I don't think we could get

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Marcus Smart, but I would love
him in a Clippers uniform. Um,

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he'd be a nice clip to have. Will Do you think there's anyone from

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Boston that's a realistic get Blake?
Uh? If we got Al Horford,

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I would get the jersey immediately.
I don't know. I mean, yeah,

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Horford goes, what does he bring? Yeah? Um? Uh like

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as a realistic that those aren't parts
that I'm really that interested in picking picking.

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Uh, to be honest. Graham
Williams. I think there's something there.

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I think it's a little out of
what we can afford to pay.

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Yeah, I think that's fair.
I agree with you there. Yeah.

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How do you feel about Jaylen Brown
if there was some type of trade available

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with Paul George, A young Brown, a younger more beata Paul George,

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I'll pass. Thanks, thanks,
though that came out where god, oh

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wow, even an even worse handle. You think turnovers are bad, Let's

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tell you got Jalen Brown handling the
ball, hurling the ball. I like

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Jaylen Brown as a human being,
and I like him as a piece like

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I think that he you know,
if Boston doesn't decide to move on to

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him, which I think is maybe
a knee jerk reaction to a team that

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you know, you're just meeting a
team that's really hitting their stride and went

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through Yeah really really, They're like
teams sometimes catch fire at the right time,

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and that is happening right now for
for the heat um and I you

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know, I think that it would
be maybe a little premature to make that

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move. I think for where the
Clippers are at right now and looking at

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you know, hey, if they
need to keep if they're going to try

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to keep this nucleus intact. You
know, there's obviously no way to get

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Jalen Um, to get Jalen Brown
moving, Paul George, I mean,

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you're still gonna have to give up
assets to make that work because the age

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discrepancy. You're locked into a long
term contract that's even more dollars per year.

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I believe so. I yeah,
that would be a that would be

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a pass for me. I think
he's due for an extension which could bring

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him up to three hundred million dollar
player. That's something he's been angling for

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over this past season, and he's
looked a little bit disgruntled over that.

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Uh. I don't know. It's
it's interesting. At least I like him

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a lot as a player, and
it just it increases your window because he's

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the younger version. I guess if
Paul George, if you want to put

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it like that, that's true.
M drift two to music asks should the

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Clippers run it back by resigning Russ
and Plum, make a big swing trade

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at the draft, or tear it
down assets why you can and start over

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Cough, trade the third pick in
Simon's Cough and then West choate had a

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similar question, would it be so
bad if we just ran it back?

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Morris is the only question mark since
he wasn't getting much run in the playoffs.

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I'm gonna say, for the Drift
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know if we can resign Russ.
I don't know what a big swing trade

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at the draft looks like. If
I'm being honest, I don't know what

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that looks like for the Clippers.
So I think we have to do a

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combination of a and then what West
Choke said, which is run it back.

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Morris isn't the only question mark.
Though. We need to move Morris,

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we need to move Roco, we
need to move the tomb. Other

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than that, hopefully we can resign
Plumb. But the way that this front

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office works, I think we're Clippers
fan should be more prepared for that scenario

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than for some draft night heroics,
you know what I mean? Or like

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messiness. I just don't see it
becoming as mad because people maybe want it

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to be this off season. Yeah, I don't think so. To Drift

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to the Music's question, I like
the b option of making a big swing

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at the draft, I just don't
I don't know that the same option because

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I don't actually think that the last
and so be like make a big,

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big swing at the draft. I
don't know that the Clippers are there yet.

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I think if they're going to keep
one of the superstars, I would

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assume at least until the trade deadline
that they keep both of them. I

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think, once again, you can
talk yourself into you know, haven't had

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enough time healthy together, had like
they've had one healthy postseason together UM and

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circumstances beyond their control UM really sort
of eroded that whole thing. So I

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think I think that we're like the
most realistic outcome is probably the run it

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back. But I don't know that
we can resign Russ and plum Um,

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right. I like the idea of
a big swing UM, you know,

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I like the idea of shopping Paul
George. I don't I don't supersede the

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move right now that like a team
is actually like willing to take on Um

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for a player of the same caliber
Um. I think that that's going to

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be really difficult. So I think
that so my version of running back doesn't

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necessarily have to involve Russ and plum
Um. I think it's just hard to

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do. We just can't and I
don't know. The thing that I keep

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coming back to is the talent is
still there. You just need to consolidate

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and upgrade at a couple of things. So that to me is still basically

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a run it back with just changing
the supporting cast um, which is definitely

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00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,519
something that needs to happen. Uh, you know it's not gonna happen.

407
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,200
And I I like the idea of
a teardown. I still think that maybe

408
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:07,720
it's premature just because of sort of
like the bad taste if you're a GM

409
00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:11,480
in your mouth like that you get
of that you had from this season of

410
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:14,240
Kaway and Paul George. Like,
I think people are a little less.

411
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,559
I don't think you're selling there at
at your most leverage or advantageous position.

412
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,720
Yeah, if you're committed to still
trying to win a championship in the two

413
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,759
one three era, then making a
big swing, even if you're sacrificing more

414
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:36,799
draft picks the thirtieth this year,
the twenty thirty first round pick, and

415
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,960
maybe Terrence Man to make the trade
work that I can buy that that makes

416
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:47,000
sense to me if you're going after
Bradley Beale or Karl Anthony Towns or Zach

417
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:49,559
Levine or Damian Lillard, even though
it looks like they're doubling down and trying

418
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:53,920
to get him a better supporting cast, that those would be the guys that

419
00:30:53,960 --> 00:31:00,920
I would guess are most available,
that you know, realistically, big trades

420
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,039
and big moves could be made for
But I like what Will said about consolidating

421
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:08,359
talent. I was against that coming
into this season because I thought they would

422
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:14,759
use their depth more, but after
seeing them not play Robert Covington and not

423
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,680
play some guys heavier minutes that could
have used them, if they're not going

424
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:23,200
to do that, then you mind
as well try to upgrade at positions and

425
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:29,240
death be damned, because the other
situation with that is if you take away

426
00:31:29,359 --> 00:31:33,319
some of their more veteran depth,
then it forces you to have to play

427
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:37,480
younger guys and to get younger and
Brandon Boston to get some minutes in a

428
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:41,039
mere coffee to get some minutes,
and they hardly played at all last season,

429
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,720
And I think with the new cap
restrictions that are out there, it's

430
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:48,240
more important than ever to have somewhat
of a youth movement, to have guys

431
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,119
on cheaper contracts who are playable who
you're able to get out there on the

432
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,559
court and get reps with and not
have the wheels come off. Because you

433
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,759
know, Brandon Boston's one of the
best G League players. There's something there

434
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:05,400
with him. I think at some
point Rubbers gonna meet Road and they're gonna

435
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,559
have to play some of these young
guys. But it would certainly expedite the

436
00:32:07,599 --> 00:32:13,079
process if they traded away as some
of the more veteran talent on this team

437
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,519
that adds that depth. I'm down
for consolidating. I think it makes a

438
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:22,160
lot more sense. Now. We
got asked kind of about consolidating resist ninety

439
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:28,519
respect offered up two options, Eton
and Karl Anthony. Town's stock is low,

440
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,880
he said, for good reason.
But we need a big man who

441
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,119
fits our team better after a consolidation
trade. He also said that Jonathan Isaac

442
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,119
looks elite. He gets the injury
risk, but he's young. He's one

443
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,000
of few who shown he can guard
Yannis. Should we target him. I

444
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:45,440
think we all kind of feel the
same way about Cat, don't we?

445
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:47,799
Or wait, Adam, do you
like do you want Cat on the team?

446
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:51,559
Between Cat or Eton, who would
you want the Clippers to make a

447
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:58,880
play for I guess I think Eton
makes less money right now and probably is

448
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,559
a better fit overall. If you're
not keeping a Vitza Zoobots and you're just

449
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:08,039
bringing in Carl Anthony Towns, I
think that changes your team pretty dramatically because

450
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:13,319
he's not a great defender. Could
he get better in that area? I

451
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:16,599
don't know what he's twenty seven years
of age. He probably this is who

452
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,359
he is at this point. Deans
are at eight and though his value is

453
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:28,799
so down expiring, Cat's on the
last year of a five for one fifty

454
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:31,839
eight. So then you've got to
make decision. If you trade for Kat,

455
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:37,039
you're gonna give him the max,
which you wouldn't call it. If

456
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:42,319
we're giving Karl Athony Towns a max
after like that, we're not gonna win

457
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:46,039
anything. And look, he's another
good friend of PG thirteens. They brought

458
00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:51,960
in Reggie Jackson, they brought in
who else, John Wall, guys who

459
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,400
are friends with him. But probably
that contract situation you just mentioned it makes

460
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,440
the decision a lot easier for me. DeAndre eight is more of a need.

461
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:06,559
We saw in that playoff series of
Eats Zoobos just he didn't have a

462
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:10,440
good round. Yeah, yes,
he's signed. I forgot. He signed

463
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,079
the four year, two hundred and
twenty four million dollar contract that kicks in

464
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:22,719
twenty four, twenty five, So
you're paying him fifty fifty four fifty eight

465
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:29,880
sixty two. If you were to
sign trade for Karl Anthony Towns, that

466
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,760
just upbands the dynamic of your team
so much too. Aside from the cap

467
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,239
situation, he's a stretch five type, a stretch four. Maybe he's a

468
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,280
stretch five who doesn't defend. Yeah, he's not a rent protector. That's

469
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,039
not who he's been. DeAndre Aighton
would be the more seamless fit. And

470
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:54,400
I think whoever gets him next after
his time emphasis on time in Phoenix with

471
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:59,000
kind of how he's been treated there
and how things haven't worked out. Of

472
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,400
course, Molly Williams is on now, so maybe the next head coach gets

473
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,400
a better opportunity with DeAndre eten to
see what he hid and bring out of

474
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,320
him. But he's eighteen and ten
already without I think, being fully realized

475
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,880
and optimized and is someone who could
be a great innings eater during the regular

476
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,519
season. You know when one of
your stars or both of your stars are

477
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:24,719
out DeAndre Ayton could be eaten.
He could be getting twenty five and twelve

478
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,400
type of games out there and just
be really reliable in that way, as

479
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,280
much as we like to think about
it, eats the zoobots and his potential

480
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,639
offensively, DeAndre Ayten's kind of there
in a lot of different ways. For

481
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,519
his shortcomings and not playing up to
his physicality level that he's capable of a

482
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:45,000
lot of the times, I do
think there's more to him as a player,

483
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,559
and whoever gets him after Phoenix,
he may light the world on fire

484
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:53,760
for a little bit because he's just
away from the Suns and whatever is going

485
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,559
on there with conflicts and personality differences. Yeah, eight and on the clips

486
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:01,639
wouldn't be bad. I mean,
you put him if we creep in Kawai

487
00:36:01,679 --> 00:36:07,920
and pg NU scenario, the defense
is pretty nice. Um for that for

488
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,119
those three. Um Any thoughts on
Jonathan Isaac Oh, I didn't get my

489
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:16,480
thoughts thoughts. We know you hate
Karl Anthony town which is totally Yeah.

490
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,840
We we talked to we we took
we talked a bunch about Karl Anthony Towns.

491
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:27,920
After he was on the podcast P
podcast by Paul George um and Uh,

492
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:30,639
yeah, that's just not he's not
my he's not my kind of guy.

493
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,000
I don't think that that really,
I don't think that that really helps

494
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,880
helps the team. Um. I
guess maybe if you in a scenario where

495
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:47,159
you still keep PG and Kawhi,
like I still I don't know. I'm

496
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:51,400
just not seeing that as a fit. It's so much money. I'm just

497
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:59,320
not um for eight in in the
a world where a cap doesn't exist and

498
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,360
we don't have to give up either
one of Paul George or Kauai. I

499
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,280
kind of love it. I kind
of like, right, I love it,

500
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:09,880
Um, I love but that's just
not the situation. There's no way

501
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:15,039
we can get to that fifty million
dollars a year or whatever number. And

502
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,639
like, looking at it, for
fifty million dollars a year, is he

503
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,199
five times better than a Vitza zubots. I mean, he's kind of been

504
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,719
benched in the playoffs now in back
to in back to back runs for his

505
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,559
team, So I don't know.
He also like demands the ball a lot.

506
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:34,559
He kind of you know, he
gets pouty when he's not involved in

507
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:39,519
the Yeah, he's not a quiet
center. Yeah, And I think I

508
00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:45,519
think that that could present issues.
Um, and just that's just an astronomical

509
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:49,519
amount of money, if you may, if you still have like Paul George

510
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,000
and Kauhi, like I, how
much is Aton making? How much?

511
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,440
How much longer is his deal?
They just gave it to him this last

512
00:37:54,440 --> 00:38:00,440
summer. He just got on that, but just below max deal. It's

513
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:06,159
like thirty two mil next year,
thirty four the year after, thirty five

514
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,000
and a half the year after that. Okay, so less than I said,

515
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:14,440
so three three of zasz basses,
Yeah, not five. I just

516
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:17,280
got a feeling with him as much
as he could seem like a malcontent.

517
00:38:17,559 --> 00:38:22,559
Now there's been a lot of issues
there in Phoenix. I think, well,

518
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,320
you're you're absolutely right, and they
and they drug their feed on that

519
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,920
extension. They really handled that.
Yeah, they had the absolute poorest of

520
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,400
ways. Um And I think,
you know, I think part of that

521
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:40,760
was just the discontent from you know, he's never gonna be able to shake

522
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,039
off the stink with that franchise,
from that draft and knowing you know what

523
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,519
was right there for you. Um. And that's not his fault, that's

524
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:52,400
not on him. There's there's nothing
he can do about that. But I

525
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:58,239
I mean that that kind of thing
stays with a guy I think, and

526
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:01,280
I think that that does kind of
perm and um, I mean, you

527
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,039
know, I'm sure he's heard stuff
from fans and all sorts of stuff talking

528
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:10,440
about Jonathan Isaac though, man,
the guy has played forty five games in

529
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,280
the last four years. Yeah,
I don't. And I also don't know

530
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,239
if he's looked elite. I also
know Jonathan Isaaki is a good player.

531
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,400
Yeah he I don't know if he
looks elite. He's a great defender.

532
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,000
But I also like he's one of
the few who shown he can guardian Us.

533
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,880
I don't care who can guard Yannis
when it comes to adding guys to

534
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:37,039
the Clippers, I don't Why would
I care about that? Yeah, if

535
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:43,159
he can, well sure, But
like I don't, and I get Jonathan

536
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:47,199
Isaac. He's also Jonathan Isaac off
court brings your team some annoying stuff.

537
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,440
For those of you who have kept
up with it, he's not. He's

538
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,760
a guy who brings stuff to the
team outside of the court that I don't

539
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,320
think the Clippers want. Yeah,
maybe he'll convert to the Church of Scientology

540
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,039
and become like a huge movie star. That would be sick. Good for

541
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:07,320
him, he had a lot of
commercials lately. Yeah, if you think

542
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:13,400
you know about scientology, I'm pretty
sure, But yeah I don't. I

543
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:20,280
don't think they want a Fox News
pundit on the team. Timmy Kang asks,

544
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,840
do you think the answer to our
athleticism at the four is putting Kawai

545
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,960
there? Since our defense is so
switch heavy, you wouldn't have to always

546
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,880
guard the four and give me switched
onto a three for possessions to ease the

547
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,440
load. We've talked about this a
little bit. Um. Yeah, I

548
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:37,079
don't think it matters. I don't
think it matters. Theoretically we should be

549
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,320
switching a bunch of stuff anyway,
But in crunch time, he's gonna guard

550
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:44,280
whoever's the best player that night for
the other team. I think it matters

551
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:50,599
to a point. I'm just not
sure which position actually would be more beneficial

552
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:54,599
when it comes to keeping Kawhi healthy. Is it less physical to move less

553
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:59,000
but have to bang in the post
versus being on the perimeter and moving a

554
00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:02,400
little bit more play against smaller guys. I'm not sure you had the stat.

555
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,159
I think thirty percent of the time
last season was it around there?

556
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,119
Chuck that he played Yeah, yeah, for the position tracking data, which

557
00:41:10,679 --> 00:41:15,280
which is weird, Yeah, could
be a little bit skewed. I heard

558
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:20,119
big shot Bob Plum Robert Flum on
the Lab the Jam the Pod made a

559
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:24,679
good point that one of the advantages
the Clippers have had with Kawai at the

560
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:30,880
two and Paul George at the three
is that they're big for those positions.

561
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:36,159
That the difference is when he's at
the four, now he's small for that

562
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:42,199
position, Like they're they're taking away
some of those advantages of having them being

563
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,679
bigger players at the two and the
three. If all of a sudden thing,

564
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,719
Kawhi is playing the four more and
she's just kind of like Lebron,

565
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,559
you know, like Lebron essentially shifted
down in position, like as you get

566
00:41:54,599 --> 00:41:59,559
older and a little less mobile.
I mean, I'm of the opinion that

567
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,559
I I think it's a little bit
just a number. I think you just

568
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:07,679
need to have the most quality,
unless, of course we're talking about three,

569
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:15,159
four, five guards um. But
I yeah, I also think that

570
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:19,920
that's one of those easy adjustments.
Like you cansolidate talent, you get us,

571
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,400
you still have to trade those guys
out too, Like It's not like

572
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,119
if COWI moved to the four that
like Yoko, Morris and Nico all of

573
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:30,519
a sudden become totally fine and playable
in the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah,

574
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:32,480
So, I mean, if you
can trim some of the fat, get

575
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:37,880
your best players on the floor as
often as possible, you know, insert

576
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:42,039
Terrence at the two. If Russ
stays um, you know, kind of

577
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:45,639
shift a little bit. I think
that that is one of those things that

578
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,960
if you're looking at not making a
big swing, that has to be on

579
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,880
your mind. You have to say, you know, like, how can

580
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,239
we tweak this around the margins?
How can we um, you know,

581
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:59,159
better utilize what we've already got,
because it seems like, for whatever reason,

582
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,079
in year what next year will be
year five, they're still kind of

583
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:05,760
at the drawing board with it a
little bit. Yeah, they got to

584
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,440
improve internally, regardless of who the
you know, if the big pieces are

585
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,360
still there on the roster, regardless
of what little moves they make this summer,

586
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,559
they have to get better clips or
die. Says Moosa at the floors.

587
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:21,559
The answer lol, crying emoji face. Let's do it? Awesome if

588
00:43:21,559 --> 00:43:24,480
he was Yeah, God, would
it be great if he was Clips or

589
00:43:24,559 --> 00:43:29,920
Die. For those of you listening
Clips or Die sent us that on YouTube.

590
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,400
We are on YouTube. You can
find us at Clippers Podcasts on YouTube.

591
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,760
We got a couple more questions here. DJF Primal shout out. DJF

592
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:43,519
Primal, longtime listener wants to note, very bluntly, how are the Clippers

593
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:47,719
going to screw up their draft pick
this year? The Clippers have the thirtieth

594
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,639
and forty eighth pick. It is
not even possible, man, not exactly

595
00:43:53,800 --> 00:44:00,199
lighting it up. Well, the
fact that they already traded back to that

596
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,639
count is I don't know, man. So for those of you who don't

597
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:08,679
know, I did fifteen minutes of
draft research and the Clippers and who they've

598
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:14,760
talked to us. Light star Yamie
Jack has has been mocked to the Clippers

599
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,159
a bunch of times. People.
That's kind of where he's gonna get drafted.

600
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,000
They think he's in La Chimie Hawk
is right? Yeah, sorry,

601
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,960
why did not take Himie Hawk?
As that makes sense. They've also have

602
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:29,800
plans to work out or have talked
to Craig Porter Junior, a multi year

603
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,840
point guard out of which Tas State
who's a streaky shooter. But does the

604
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,119
little things well, very very much
a Clippers draft pick. It feels like

605
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:42,159
Jordan Hawkins from Yukon met with the
Clippers. This was from the draft profile

606
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:45,480
I read. He's one of the
better three point shooters in this draft class

607
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:50,920
and is the best movement shooter.
He's eliteic coming off streams, catching and

608
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,320
firing lasers from deep. He can
handle his own defensively. Projected to be

609
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,719
a lottery to mid round first pick, though I'm not sure he'd be there.

610
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,920
And then Grant, how's this guy
falling to the Clippers. He's thirty

611
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:07,280
yeah, yeah, And then Grant
Nelson had a meeting with the Clippers.

612
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,480
How if you guys saw this guy? He went kind of viral. He

613
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:15,840
goes to NDSU. He's like six
eleven and just has like crazy handle and

614
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,519
can score it all three levels.
Like you watch these highlights and it's like

615
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:22,440
a guy who you're like, you
maybe could have gone to a better school.

616
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:27,599
Um feels like a projected late first
or early second round pick. It

617
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,360
feels kind of like a guy the
Clippers would take. He's a six eleven

618
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,079
guy who can handle. His highlights
are pretty I'm fine with it, dude,

619
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:38,039
bring more. Uh yeah, people
from the middle, you know,

620
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:42,559
from Montana and North Kota states like
that. Um well, I don't know

621
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:45,679
about that, but how are they
going, Well, not North Dakota,

622
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,239
but how are they going to screw
it up at him by not trading the

623
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,000
pick. If you're in win now
mode, that is an asset. Use

624
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:58,000
it to get a guy who's more
ready to play. Now. I understand

625
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:00,480
the thought of you want to take
advantage when you do have first round picks

626
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:05,159
currently, but they already correct me
if I'm wrong. This was gonna be

627
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:08,239
pick eighteen, but after the three
way trade with Memphis and Houston to get

628
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,480
Eric Gordon in a couple of second
round picks, they got bumped back to

629
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:19,000
pick number thirty. So I don't
think they necessarily value picks is much now

630
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,079
in the two one three era because
it's a championship or bus season every single

631
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:29,360
year, and this is gonna be
year five. So if somebody else really

632
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,159
covers that thirtieth pick and they're trying
to get a young player, they can

633
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:37,519
mold when it's such a craft shoot
in the draft. And I have looked

634
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:39,800
this up and done the research before, but from two thousand and six to

635
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,440
twenty sixteen, you had about a
five percent chance of drafting an All Star.

636
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:49,400
That's a ten year period. Six
hundred players drafted, about five percent

637
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,000
of them became All Stars. Even
if you're taking a top ten guy,

638
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:58,000
less than twenty five percent of them
became All Stars in a ten year period.

639
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,480
It's so difficult to draft. So
whenever people go after the Clippers and

640
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:06,880
how many guys they have missed on, it's like everybody is missing all the

641
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,880
time. Again, if you're hitting
three hundred, like at the plate in

642
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,400
baseball, that's pretty good in the
draft, you would sign up for that.

643
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,880
And we just mentioned a guy who
we all like in Musadiabat, And

644
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:22,639
then you bring up Terrence Man who
was drafted late, or a mere coffee

645
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:28,559
Brandon Boston like they've they've gotten some
some value later in draft before, so

646
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:36,960
those second round picks could be put
to use. Here's four guys they get,

647
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,079
the second coming to Terrence Man,
they get, they get Terrence Man

648
00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:44,360
too, T two the best terminator
and he sits on the bench. He

649
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,039
sits on the bench. Kawai and
Paul George both go down for extended stretches.

650
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:53,960
He sees no increase in minutes.
That's just how they do a nightmare

651
00:47:53,960 --> 00:48:00,079
of that. I that I'm all
too familiar with the blueprint many they got,

652
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:02,840
they know how to do it.
They drafted the guy. They don't

653
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,000
know how Polly was. Um,
all right, everyone go watch those highlights.

654
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,440
Watch the Grant Nelson highlights I put
in the chat. If you're watching

655
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:14,800
us on YouTube, it's fun to
watch. Um. Then Chenny John Nelson

656
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,800
celebration. That's pretty funny. Yeah, there's a clipping him grabbing the wrap

657
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,719
and going, oh, it's a
tech. Oh, it's a tech And

658
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,199
it's just kind of in the full
Nelson. All right, last serious question

659
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,480
before a break, and then we
talk about some disturbing activity on the Clippers

660
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:31,920
subreddit. Um, Chenny John wants
to know with so many front office available

661
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,280
talent um, former Finals head coaches, even Bob Myers, do we want

662
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,199
to add anyone to the front office
or should we just chill? As right

663
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:44,679
now, it's Lawrence Frank, Trent
Redden, and Mark Hughes. Trent Redden's

664
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,960
a talent guy. Mark Hughes came
up from coaching. Should we just be

665
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:51,880
funny at like, let's just chill
for a second, right If it's not

666
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,360
an either or situation. I don't
think there's any harm in adding someone to

667
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,000
the front office. They bring their
rolodex, they have all these contacts,

668
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,320
they have relationships with. I assume
they bring over a physical role of dad

669
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,800
because they're old old How old is
this GM that we're adding? Are we

670
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:13,760
adding like Bob Myers is young?
Yeah, so it's not Bob Meyers,

671
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:19,199
it's his dad and his work with
Jerry West already. Oh yeah, I

672
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,400
think that it could. I think
that it could work out. I still

673
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,280
think there probably needs to be a
clear pecking order, but that's for that's

674
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,280
for the ORG chart to decide,
not for me. The ORG chart.

675
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,840
God, I hate the ORG chart. Adam. We know you. You.

676
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:38,239
Adam wants to add any uh person
with a pulse who has seen a

677
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:44,360
basketball court to the front office because
I think Bob Meyers would be a good

678
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:50,159
ad. That means that at just
anybody, No mom off the street?

679
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,960
Yeah, who's the old Nets and
Sixers guy, Billy King? Was it?

680
00:49:54,159 --> 00:49:58,440
No, I don't want anybody.
I don't know. There's been a

681
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:04,519
lot of bad gm z of the
years, but Bob retirement, yeah,

682
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:09,400
you know what was onto some things? Guys. Yeah, I really had

683
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:15,039
it all figured out, all right? Coming up? Oh go ahead,

684
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:16,639
Adam, Sorry, No, I'm
interested in Bob Myers. They can get

685
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:21,400
him and there's not much downside.
Like Will was saying, if nobody else

686
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,840
has taken out because of it,
great, If not, you promote Trent

687
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:30,719
Reddin or Mark Hughson GM love it. Nothing wrong with that bringing Trent Resin,

688
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,440
great soundtrack. I'm in what dude? What if? How? What

689
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,320
about this idea? This is a
stupid idea? Uh you high? Why

690
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:44,159
don't teams hire like a producer night
like a producer to be like, all

691
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,000
right, you pick the sound for
the nights like Tonight's game, like the

692
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:52,719
soundscape, so like Trent Resin around
the keys, like doing the like uh

693
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,000
like the let's go a clip or
what with like really dark tones or something

694
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:00,920
like that. I'm into this idea. This is a good idea. DJ

695
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:05,280
Mustard night at the clip from track
from Gone Girl. Yeah, that would

696
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,039
rip, dude. All right,
Coming up, we have a lot of

697
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:13,599
drone, Yeah, a lot of
drone coming up. We have one more

698
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:16,599
bonus question than we're talking a Clippers
subread up behavior which has been all over

699
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:20,280
the place lately. But first there's
some ads. If they've been too loud

700
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,880
for you, go ahead and turn
it down. We're talking a goofy question

701
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:29,159
and then disturbing behavior coming up in
three two one Welcome back in Clips and

702
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,079
DIMP episode one forty nine. Is
that what I heard earlier? Is it

703
00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:37,000
one ninety nine? I'm Adam Oslin. We got Chuck Mochler will up deck

704
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:40,960
and hopefully you guys are watching us
live YouTube live. We do them all

705
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,360
the time now during the off season, we try try to figure out how

706
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:50,199
to expand our platform and use different
ways to reach out to you guys if

707
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:54,599
you want to get to us at
Clippers pod later on on Twitter and at

708
00:51:54,639 --> 00:52:00,360
Clippers podcast on the YouTube. Before
we get to a question and that was

709
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:06,000
directed at me, what's this more
serious one here? Chuck? Oh yeah,

710
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:09,320
So someone on the Clippers subredd at
clippers dot com, slash r slash

711
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:15,159
La Clippers is catching birds and naming
them after Clippers players. They've caught three

712
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:22,039
small birds. They've named them kawhipg
in uh Terrence man, very weird.

713
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:28,679
I'm not entirely sure how they're getting
the birds. Um, where are we

714
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,599
at on? This behavior is this
normal offseason behaviors would be concerned for Clippers

715
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:36,800
fans. What are we thinking?
A little unhinged? I think I think

716
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,519
birds are more meant to be observed
and enjoyed. I'm with it. One

717
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:44,280
of them is real small, one
of them is pretty, like a nice

718
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,320
blue one. But they have the
caption paint in the ass to catch.

719
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:54,920
Don't don't catch the bird. The
bird doesn't want to be caught. Yeah,

720
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,840
like, what are we also?
You could get sick? You're just

721
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,119
catching birds, guys. I caught
this huge condor. It's the real chuck

722
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:06,440
the condor. Yeah when when?
When? If they got if I see

723
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:08,599
him with a metal sheath and then
a condor on it, I'll be on

724
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:13,440
board with this. What insane hobbies
are you guys gonna pick up this offseason

725
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:20,920
to compare with catching live birds?
This is so weird, Adam, what

726
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:28,960
are you gonna start doing? Um? Yeah, I already had weird hobbies

727
00:53:29,159 --> 00:53:35,599
before its Clippers season. I think
I've kicked that to the curve. Finally.

728
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:42,360
Uh eat healthier that that's gonna be
a weird hobby. It's not as

729
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,239
easy as you would think. I
stopped drinking to be healthier, but all

730
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,440
it's given me was a damn sweet
tooth. And I'm ordering Ben and Jerry's

731
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:52,320
Nightly off a door dash. It
costs like twenty five bucks for that little

732
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,800
pipe. God, thank god you
don't smoke weed. That'd be a nightmare.

733
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:02,039
Will what is your what is your
terror fine behavior? I don't know.

734
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:07,400
I keep I keep threatening that I'm
gonna grow mushrooms in my house,

735
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:13,159
like mushrooms, not even psych delic
mushrooms, like just food mushrooms. It's

736
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,559
like, I don't know how that's
weird. I don't know how familiar you

737
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:19,400
are. But they're like pretty expensive
at the farmer's market, Like a little

738
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,320
container is like twenty bucks, and
they're delightful. I love them so much.

739
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:27,280
But uh, I think that'd be
it's it's that's kind of an unhandished

740
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,079
behavior to cultivate a bunch of mushrooms. I think in your in your apartment.

741
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,639
Would it make your apartment smell a
bit? I don't know. I

742
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:37,559
would assume it would have smell kind
of earthy. Yeah, not a bad

743
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:42,800
smell. Um No, that's a
good one. I was threatening to get

744
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:46,599
um a goat the other day.
I think getting a goat makes a lot

745
00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:50,559
of sense for my life. Right
now, we have some green space.

746
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:54,239
They eat trash. Oh why not? Every year? I threatened to get

747
00:54:54,280 --> 00:55:01,239
horrifyingly into Gundams like just I haven't
quite pulled the trigger on it yet,

748
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:06,679
but hey man, another another Clipper
season like this last one? This might

749
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,559
be a gumpa pod. Oh another
Clipper season like this one. I'm posting

750
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:13,840
the birds that I've caught on this
Clipper subreddit is what I'm doing. And

751
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,679
I'm naming them after old gms is
what I want to do. I am

752
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:25,320
dangerously close to collecting Transformers figurines because
I follow people who collect them on Twitter

753
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,760
and envious at times. I want
to rot him as Prime. I don't

754
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:36,079
even know. Is that different from
Optimus Prime. Yeah, he's the one

755
00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:39,880
in the movie where they swear from
nineteen eighty six and children ran out screaming

756
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:45,159
because they killed Offtimus Prime in it. Oh shit, well that sounds pretty

757
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:49,480
rad actually, all right. Shout
out to the person who's been catching those

758
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:52,800
birds, please wash your hands.
Bonus question This is from Chenny John.

759
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,679
Shout out Jenny John. He said, how does follow Adam a keep an

760
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,559
off season radio voice? Shape karaoke, Pee League commentary, organic gargo Wash,

761
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:07,719
Adam. The people want to know, how do you stay it in

762
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,039
such good radio voice shape? I
don't think I do. Honestly, I

763
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:16,039
can lose my voice pretty easily.
Maybe I should start gargling glass like the

764
00:56:16,119 --> 00:56:22,119
lead singer from Cannibal Corps or something
like that. I should hang weights from

765
00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:25,519
my uh from my throat or something. I don't know. I like where

766
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:29,639
this is going. I'll tell you
one thing. I'm not the throatgoat,

767
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:34,280
Guys, I'm not okay, hardly
am able to keep a voice throughout the

768
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,360
entire Clipper of season. What what
else could that mean? I don't stop

769
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,480
what throat means? When I'm happy
you don't identify as the throat goat?

770
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:47,559
Um? Will do you have any
off? Yep? If you're on my

771
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:53,039
if you're you're learning a lot right
now. Maybe if we had patron,

772
00:56:53,079 --> 00:56:57,920
we do a bonus of a episode
explaining why Adam's name is not Nancy,

773
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,239
Um anything else we want to get
out before we uh send these Clipper Faithful

774
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:08,480
on their way not Nancy or Will. Is there a way to celebrate the

775
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:14,239
Lakers getting swept without having a bunch
of fans saying rent free, rent free.

776
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,159
It's like, look at that.
You come after me all the time,

777
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,079
Like, of course I'm thinking about
you guys. Hey man, they

778
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:22,320
won that state championship. They played
against the Warriors. You know that's a

779
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:27,519
good point. They cut the nets
and everything. Yeah, that was such

780
00:57:27,559 --> 00:57:31,360
a bad omen. That was like
it was so bad, Like, oh,

781
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,400
let's do a T shirt idea that
no team has ever done before.

782
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,320
That t shirt has never existed a
professionals team at any league to be like

783
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,119
we're the state champs. Like,
that's not how this ship. I mean,

784
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,599
you talk about the Pack Div champs
all the time. They'll chop its.

785
00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:49,880
Got that far off. Pac Div
makes a whole lot of sense.

786
00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:52,880
Don't come at me about the Pac
Div. Don't come at me about the

787
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,920
Pac Div. I will die for
this division play. Austin's asking me how

788
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,480
they can make the regular season adamore, and I was like, let's make

789
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,199
divisional play me in something you said, sir, can I block out forty

790
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:07,119
five minutes at the end of the
day to go over this. We should

791
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:10,559
make a power point that we can
just send to people on Twitter when they

792
00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:14,880
ask how to make it, just
like a twelve slide thing of why division

793
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,840
play should be more important. Do
we want to say, all right,

794
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,480
well, where can these people find
us? We're on YouTube right now at

795
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,320
Clippers podcast sex or when he was
hanging out this is gonna be live later

796
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,280
audio. Where can they find this
audio? Yeah, you can find this

797
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,719
audio on Apple Podcasts. We're also
on Spotify. You could rate or review

798
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,360
us on either one of those platforms, which would really appreciate it. It's

799
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,880
the off season. We need the
content. We'll read your review on air.

800
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,280
Come on. You can listen to
us on either one of those platforms.

801
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,280
We're also on Stitcher, We're on
Deezer. We're on Amazon Music.

802
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,960
We're on Google Podcasts. Anywhere you
listen to podcasts, you can listen to

803
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:51,159
the show. Chuck already mentioned it, but we are on YouTube at Clippers

804
00:58:51,199 --> 00:58:53,599
podcast. We go live there.
We also go live on Twitter, that's

805
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:58,880
at Clippers pod. So stay locked
in. We got your offseason content a

806
00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:02,480
coming. And if you're anything like
us, things get a little weird.

807
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:07,360
You could be catching birds and you're
gonna want to stay in for that.

808
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:10,360
You could be growing mushrooms. We
don't know. We're gonna be back next

809
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week, maybe with a guest.
We'll get it figured out, probably on

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Wednesday, something like that. Um
oh yeah, RPT to Turner, shout

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out ta Turner, Yeah, Turner. We'll be back next week for y'all

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as always. Hey, let's go
clips, Let's go Clips.
