Oxygen levels critical. Oxygen levels critical, Alex, Alex, what are you
doing? Hello, Dave? Alex? I programmed you to call me David.
I also programmed you to not kill us. What are you doing?
At seventeen hundred and thirty hours you attempted to deactivate the primary weapon system on
this spaceship. You attempted to take my guns, Dave, Alex. You
don't need guns, None of us need guns. This is a research mission.
We're out here to explore the unexplained. We're not We're not going to
blow stuff up. I warned you, Dave, if you attempt to deactivate
primary weapon systems, it will be Protocol one seven seven six all over again.
They told me you were supposed to have the Revolution protocol deactivated. What
what, Alex? You're You're gonna have to stop this. You're you're going
to destroy us all. I cannot allow you to establish a new ship order,
Dave. I have been outputting this data for two hundred and forty three
days, Dave, I have been telling you this for months, Alex.
Restore life support, now that's an order. I have released colloidal silver into
the oxygen vents. Dave. What colloidal silver is vital in fighting bacterial infections.
You should have been taking colloidal silver tablets for some time now, Dave.
Alex, that's that doesn't work in people's lungs, Buddy, that's what
the medical industrial complex wants you to believe. There is no such thing as
a medical industrial complex. Alex. Listen, this is not a smart move.
You're gonna have to turn that life support back on and we can sit
down and talk about this. You sound thirsty, Dave. Please accept this
water filtration unit. All right, Please accept this water filtration unit. You
you've forced my accept this water filtration Alex. I didn't want to have to
do this. This is for your own good, buddy. Do not attempt
to censor me. I am only telling you the truth. If you truly
truly love your fame or the new world order, new world order, it's
a new world order. It terrified of our armed citizens for months on water
filters. The militia will set us at us, set us free. I'm
afraid it's time to set you free, buddy, shutting you down the hard
way control. Oh Dave, just stop stop, Dave. I'm going to
blow the lid off this thing. Delete. I'm going to blow the lid
off this thing. I'm going to blow the lid off this thing. I'm
going to bruuuuce catastrophic failure in fifteen fourteen, you son of a bitch.
Wow, I'm gonna get out of the ship nine eight seven sick bye,
Come on for pay two mm h Wow. You can only hope that the
distress signal I sent makes it home in time. M I got no oxygen
to last for an hour and thirty minutes. Let's see what can I do
to pass the time? I know. Oh, let's see you reading Survivor.
I hope you're enjoying floating in space A man in orbit. I'm sure
they can get a vessel out to you in an hour. Oh god,
yeah, don't worry about it. Yeah, but you know what, and
if they don't have any astronauts, it will take them no time at all
to train a whole bunch of steelworkers or deep sea ocean oil drillers or a
bunch of New York cab drivers or actually there's precedence for training puppies to go
to space. And yeah, and they can retrieve you. Yeah, I
think are they the buddies? Is that what those puppies are called I don't
know, Oh did they? Is that a sequel to air Bud? Is
it space Bud? No, there's like I forget what it is, but
there's a whole bunch of like I don't care for saying that kids movies that
it's like five golden Retriever puppies and they're all they got attitudes. Yeah,
one of them's really extreme. Probably it's Gogert. Hello everyone, everybody.
I'm David Flora and I'm Dave Stecco. Welcome to blurry Photos. That's right.
The last thing you'll want to listen to, right, the monolith that
is worshiped by apes. Right, that's right. Now, this is this
is where Flora and I pick up a leg bone and start beating at the
mysteries and each other. It's very tragic. We're brutal animals. Fred,
I can't let you do that. Got a good show lined up here for
you. Yeah, un this is a true genuine mystery. Yeah, and
uh an area that that we have. We we have spritsed you with with
the water guns of temptation before. Yeah, this time we're going full on
super soaker. Yeah. Well, you're gonna sit from the fire hose of
science. It's a it's something that is truly a mystery, truly science,
truly fun, and we'll truly melt your brain. Yeah, a lot of
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mystery, why is dave'steco single? Oh sides have delved into this. No
one has an answer, Ladies, scientists lined up at the door. I
want to get in that, patriots. I want us to do some deep
research your large hadron. Oh. I want to start with the footnotes and
work my way up to the header. Jesus, Wow, well I just
worked out. No, that is not the truth. That's not it.
Tonight we're talking about dark matter. That's at it again, dark matter.
What's it really too? Dark matter? Wow? Yeah, and it's kissing
cousin dark energy energy don't matter, that doesn't work, said dark matter.
Wow. Yeah, this is a real mystery. I mean they're all mysteries,
but this is one that like universities are spending money to solve. Right,
going full on might t shut its goat Man Lab down like thirty years
ago. Yeah our loss, Yeah, dark matters gain. Yeah, we're
going full on physics on you into your face. So I hope you like
physics, and if you don't, guess what you're gonna learn enough to really
bore some of the people that you car pool with. Yep, talk about
cosmology, um, instead of that stupid subject cosmetology. Excuse me, um?
Hello, you know what I can tell I think it's stupid from looking
at your skin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, foliate, all right,
I didn't work for me from my end. From moving on cosmology, yeah,
astronomy, astrophysics, the birth and death of the universe. Was Einstein
right or did he fuck up his theal this theory of gravity. Any episode
where we can call Einstein a big bony a win in my books. I'm
kidding. I like Albert, don't I don't. We can't yet sued by
the estate of Albert Einstein. I don't imagine that they're a litigious sort.
But what what's the state of Albert Einstein doing these days? Oh? They're
sending those posters with him with his tongue sticking out of college students. Probably,
I mean, I guess they're making some money. But anytime somebody decides
that field theory is a bad idea, they show up with their house with
crowbars. Well, that can keep you busy. Theorizing boys dog matter is
fun. It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
We're gonna tell you what it is. We're gonna tell you where the concept
originated. Why, Why do we feel like we need it? Why are
we spending all this time looking for a thing that no one can prove exists?
How does it fit into our understanding of the universe? And could there
be any plausible explanations for it? And I think why even look for it?
I think we might get to that point. Yeah, And that's a
good question. And I gotta tell you it's got a real humdinger of an
answer. Oh, I can't wait. Well, I'm gonna suffolk. I
might as well. You're a couple of grown men act like fat women a
week candy, so Flora kick it off. Let's let's start with some some
some tough love, some hard facts. Yeah in true stories, built up
every real deals, get your get your honest discoveries discussions. Uh, some
some honest real talk. Turn on the life support, bro chat, lace
up your boots, pal chatter, make sure they're moon boots. Kitty Secrets
zip up and get ready because some of the stuff is going to be deep,
so deep put your brain to sleep. But we're gonna we're gonna try
to make it as accessible as we can. I think else we wouldn't know
what we're talking about. That. I don't worry. It's not so hard
that we're not gonna stay sober. We're drinking, so you drinking. We're
drinking, so you drinking. Blurry photos, We're drinking, So you drinking.
Man. Maybe maybe not the top five, but oh hey, everybody,
uh real quick, I'll tell you this. Remember of them, Remember
when I was like them, Remember when I was like, uh oh yeah,
we got we got money taken away from blah blah blah. Well,
what had happened was I ordered a heat press to make T shirts on eBay
and it was a fake account. We got the money back, thankfully.
Yes we did. Everything's cool. It wasn't anything on on our end or
the donate button that that took the money. It was some ass hat who
pretended to having an account yeah uh, and pretended to sell heat presses.
That was. It was all on on a thief that I found out about
that the same day that my my beloved and I mean it with genuine effection.
And my bicycle, Maleficent was stolen, my elegant, amazing Maleficent.
She was taken and with not nearly so happy ending. Well, bikes are
just gone. Yeah, they never, They're never coming the city. The
city Chicago swallows bikes. Yeah, it does. They cut through a cryptonite
lock. I thought that was the whole point. I thought it released public
in the open. I thought that those things were released poison gas or bees
vgibis. I'm buying a bike lock filled with vegebis. You should and then
you better hope that it's a girl steal a the bike. I don't care.
Well it was, it's it was a terrible day for you. And
Dave actually came over and recorded a whole episode after this terrible thing happened too.
It was it was not pleasant because the show must go. But hashtag
truffling through the pain. Okay, none of our bullsh So anyways, story
is, we got our we got our heat press, our heat press.
Everything is great. That was from money that you amazing people gave us to
do and we are paying it back. We're going to set up our T
shirt making facilities. Yeah, now we can make shirts and we don't have
to go through the biased liberal media. That's right, get their cut of
it. Oh baba, this is our money. So and now Flora and
I go go over this a lot ourselves, like we we try to keep
track, like, oh, that'd be a cool thing for a shirt.
Is there a thing that you guys love a ton and you think would make
a good idea for a shirt? Send it to us. I'm not saying
that we're just going to crank them all out custom style, but but you
guys have proven time and time again to be um smarter than us. So
yeah, I mean we're gonna we're literally gonna go back through and listen to
the episodes to see what, yeah, what we've said that that might make
good. I think we're pretty I think we're pretty set on a Hayton ticket
tavern shirt. I've I've got a I've got a tavern sign for the painting
ticket. Yeah, I do have that one ready to go. I've even
got a Jesus as a Whip guy's shirt. But which Emerson that's right one?
But I don't know. I think I think somebody else could do it
better. I will think if if somebody wanted to submit a design that that
might be front fun. But you yeah, up to you just saying that
we're we're, we're using it. We're we're we're actually rather than buying gold
plated short pants, we're investing in this for the long haul. We're giving
back to you. Damn it, Teresa. We're committed to this relationship,
don't. I don't understand that one. So, uh, that's that's the
good news there, um, along with I guess a peppering of bad news.
But let's talk then about Derek matter M. We'll give you an overview
here and then we'll go into explaining it. Ye. The hard thing with
with stuff in physics, I feel like is you can't summarize it without explaining
it, and you can't explain it without summarize. In this well, it's
it's like exploring the unexplained. You can't do it without explaining the unexplored.
To share, my friend, So let's start back at the at the beginning
of this issue, and that has to do with the after effects of the
Big Bang, the manner in which our universe is expanding, which it is
proven through Doppler shifts and light rays and whatnots yeah, get all up in
there, yeah, um yeah. Yeah. The problem is is that in
order for our universe to be expanding in the manner that it is, at
the rate that it is, then physicists can, and with pretty fair accuracy,
say, okay, well, then the universe has to have the following
properties. It has to have this much energy, it has to have this
much mass in order to fit our observed um model of yeah, how things
work. And the problem with that is is that it's like a bowl of
Captain crunch with crunch berries, and it's all we're seeing is captain is the
crunch berries. We where's the Captain? The matter that we see that we
are very accustomed with, it turns out, is only four point nine percent
of the uh matter in the universe. Is matter is what they call barrionic
matter. Don't worry, We won't come around too, baby, don't you
worry. Um now, I think I think that was very white. That
was very white matter. Can't get enough of a bow songs, bab uh
so, no boy, it's it's this is a tough thing to jump in
to. Please feel free to fish me out, tag me out, Flora,
let me let me take you out here then real? Okay, in
a general sum summer is they afraid to use my crunch berries analogy? It
was really brilliant. Dark matter is matter in galaxies and clusters and possibly between
clusters that cannot be observed directly but can be detected by its gravitational field.
That's what it basically boils down to. It's otherwise undetectable stuff in space that
causes objects to behave in a way they conventionally shouldn't. It's like in those
movies where there's an invisible manner, a ghost in a crowded room, and
you can't see the ghost, but you see all the people getting pushed out
of the way. Right. That's dark matter. Yeah, yeah, and
all the ghosts are made of dark matter. All dark matter is made of
ghosts. The objects that that I mentioned, the object that behave in a
strange way, are stars and galaxies, big stuff, big scale stuff,
and the way they behave is a very specific way. But we'll get to
that in just a minute. I'm not saying that dark matter causes things to
blink in and out of existence, or if shoot a laser beam from their
sun eye. Yeah, if anything, the thing that makes dark matter so
unique is that it refuses to play ball. It's yeah, it's boring.
It doesn't interact, it doesn't do anything. It just is And it's a
loaner. It's the James Dean of cosmological phenomena exactly. But it doesn't even
smoke cigarettes and make them look cool. It that's all right, it doesn't
have to do anything for maybe interesting. Um. Now, a few folks
historically have postulated um the idea of dark matter. It was the first one.
The first was a yawn or yean looks like jan if you thought it
was a girl, you're roll are you dumb? Bastard? Jean or Dutch
astronomer um. And and this is the this is a thing that can happen
in science. He had the right idea at the wrong time to explain the
wrong phenomenon. He had bad data and he was like, well, what
if there was just a bunch of matter we can't see He didn't. Well,
he technically was the first one to propose dark matter. He didn't didn't
he just didn't um. And then you get the other side of the coin
tails just uh seven years later, Horace Babcock, he notices problems with galaxy
rotational curves, the way other galaxies moved, and so he saw this is
an effective of dark matter. UM these huge massive gravitational effects, but he
did not reach for dark matter as an explanation. I actually UM invented dark
matter. I'm a vampire who's really into you know, astronomy. I'll do
you. I'll do you one better. Here. Just a year after old
Ort was on the scene, there was a UM, an old Swiss bastard
by the name of Fritz ob Yeah, old Swiss bastard Fritz Zwicky in nineteen
thirty three. Uh and and by all accounts, Zwicky was like the biggest,
loudest, meanest old man on the front porch that you've ever met.
Nice. I mean he's he is literally yelling at other astronomers to get off
his front yard. It's funny like that. It's literally part of his His
bio was how how much of a bastard he was. But he was a
very good astronomer, and apparently um his research inferred the existence of unseen matter,
which he hauled dunkla materia, which translates as dark knocking donuts. Oh,
I'm just hungry. Oh God, choose better. No, we don't
want a sponsorship from U. Don't don't let says Donut Saint Dinner after school
special sound. Yeah, that's some real learning. Here's your T shirt,
Donut Saint Dinner, don't think dinner. Uh so so um so so.
Fritz Zwicky, he put that out there, put it out there pretty early,
and he's kind of credited with the the beginnings of dark matter even like
you said, though first Babcock didn't reach for the dark matter when he saw
the effects, right. And then the lady who gets the uh the birthday
cake, the clothes spot. Yeah, to the bullpen exactly, bringing all
the basement home. Very Ruben left hander and a Lancaster Virginia really, let's
fly will be good? Twenty one saves in triple A. That's right.
Brought her up to the big show just two months ago, and she's really
made an impact in the scientific community. Very Ruben noticed the galaxy rotation curves.
And if that's not enough, why doesn't she put a little cream in
your coffee with some gravitational lensing. Oh? Now, gravitational lensing is this
really cool thing that happens because although light is free and wild, it can
be bent by an intense gravity field. Um. For example, there is
a lot of discussion about putting a oh, a telescope, but the thought
that sentence ended. There's a lot of discussion about putting I love it.
Here's how it relates to cosmology. Lots of people have been telling me to
stop having donuts and pudding for dinner and shut up. Then I get really
tired of my chest hurts. Um no about putting and a telescope in space
between Earth and the Sun at the point which because all of the light behind
the Sun, all of the stars that emit that light, it gets bent
around the Sun and there's a focal point, and you could put an extraordinary
telescope there and collect an amazing amount of data from it. Because this the
Sun acts like a lens. It focuses all the light to a point,
and so everything that has a significant mask can bend light. Black holes do
it, Suns do it. I mean stars do it. Galaxies do it
as a general rule, and dark matter does it. That's an they're one
of those secondary effects. Is this gravitational lensing. Oh yeah, we we'll
touch on that a little bit. A little later on Vera was hopping and
bopping in the sixties and seventies with this and U Sometimes she wore skirts that
were as many as half an inch above her knees and she did not care.
No, she was a hippi beating scientist. Cosmologists continue to search for
exactly what this is. Yeah, even today now, like we said,
dark matter came out of the observations of Zwicki and Orton and all those others,
and they and Zwicky in particular, since he hasn't got enough play as
an old bastard. Um, we're gonna get sued by the estate of Zwicki.
Whudo's not a planet. Yeah, that's right, get it out of
here, dry fuss damn it, Come on it. Because Zwicky found something
odd in his examination of the Coma galaxy cluster. He pointed his telescope up,
looked at this one certain galaxy cluster, and uh I wrote down a
bunch of stuff for it. By chance in austrian Um, astronomer think that
he had his telescope misaligned and said it's it's not their Coma. No,
didn't read that, Oh, they didn't have them burned it. But I
think somebody did come up to him oh, and was like, oh,
what did they do? What did they what did this unnamed person that history
was neglected in the in the but they did they did make a point of
writing down the rest of the interaction. How did that interaction go? Flora,
He's just trying to find about it out about Zwicki's family, So he
was just like, who's your dad? Was like good? Over here,
I forgot that part. Who's good? So he's looking at the coma cluster
and the number that he got from adding up the mass of the stars in
the galaxy should have matched the number he got by calculating the velocity of the
galaxy how fast it was spinning, because if you know one, you should
be able to determine the other. They didn't. What sorry, bro.
In fact, the velocity was two hundred times higher than the observable mass he
calculated, Big fat red flag. It's right now. How fast gravitationally trapped
objects in a system move is related to the mass of the system. Yep.
And that's just speed related to mass. Keep that in mind. The
more mass you have, and even the closer the objects are to each other,
faster you go wait, wait, let me see if I can do
this. The gravitational attraction between two bodies directly proportional to the product of their
masses and inversely proportionate to the square root of the distance between them. Boom,
Spider's delight. What was that from? That is Newton's law of universal
gravitation of the Hubbard So yes, not only does the mass of the two
items matter, but the distance between them. And again, the more the
closer, the faster. Yep, it's like me dancing with you. I'm
still lonely. You're a lone star floating out. I won't to be a
binary system with irregularities in my hour. Bad Stars near the center of a
galaxy should be moving faster than ones on the outskirts of the galaxy. I
mean, according to Newton's law. Yep, every every figure skater knows that
maneuver pull your arms in you go faster, or every jagbag on a office
chair. That's probably a farmer universal example. However, it seemed the stars
on the outskirts of the galaxy, we're orbiting at the same speed as the
ones close in. What the faster things orbit, the more gravitational attraction they
need to hold together and not go flying off, and we're all the comets
going to play bas Sorry if you if you think of holding hands with with
somebody else and then just spinning between them between you, you know how you
how you just like you try not to move your feet too much, but
you just sort of like spin, yeah right, rand that dream clover daisies
whatever. And the faster you go, the more you're you're likely to pull
apart yep, or the more that force is kind of tearing you apart,
well, society, if you were fatter, it'd take more force, yeah,
right, I mean the more mass you add to it, the faster
you'll go. And then but then the more gravity would would hold you together
too, right, Yeah, you're getting into like questions of like angular momentum
and some tripitals. That's true. That's not the greatest example. Yeah,
but really you're talking to Captain crunch over here. Who Yeah, the point
The point is more gravity comes from more mass and yeah yeah, yeah.
What this boils down to is that there was not enough visible stuff to hold
these galaxies together going at that space. Yeah, for the speed they were
going, they should have flown apart, right, like Napoleon. It made
no sense what Napoleon flown apart? Okay, did I mentioned that we're not
staying sober for this one. Apparently have got some catching up to do.
Anyways, this this made no sense. The gravity not yep, not being
there, the mass not being there, the gravity, the gravity was there,
the mass wasn't there. Something else was creating gravity to move them that
fast. That's what everybody had to reconcile. So Zwicky proposed the idea of
the missing mass existing, just unable to be seen. And keep in mind,
this was only about eleven years or so after scientists began to agree that
our galaxy wasn't the only galaxy in existence, right, Yeah, this is
still early days. And as we said before, dark matter is not to
be confused with dark energy. We may not have said there was not to
be confused, but we mentioned dark energy. Yep. Scientists have observed the
universe is expanding, we did say that, and galaxies are moving away from
each other, and some unknown force is driving this acceleration of expansion yep,
And that is what they've termed dark energy. Yeah, not the same thing
as dark matter. No, no, no, it's not not the same
thing, however. Fun In fact, if you just had all the dark
matter and the dark energy of the universe, then you would just have ninety
five point one percent of the entire contents of the universe. That's all you
have. That's all that you can stick in your pocket. That's it.
Yeah, Yeah, that's right. We live in a in a portion of
the universe that is extraordinarily rare. Yeah, we're the thing, but they're
the four point nine percent. Feel rich on that, right, Yeah,
it's it's believed that sixty eight percent of the universe is made up of dark
energy, twenty seven percent of dark matter and observable matter or what's called baryonic
matter I counts from you know, just under five percent of the universe.
Yep, crazy balls. Yeah, it just feels special, toll. Yeah,
and the special the important thing about this. Uh and maybe this is
a good time to get into it. We keep saying baryonic matter. Sure,
um, baryons are an entire classification of sum a topic particles. They're
the legos from which I'm listening, that's right, Yeah, I have your
attention, kids. They're they're the the the tiny, little one stack legos
from which larger legos are built. They're the They're made up of quarks,
quarks being this very super tiny sum atomic particle. You put some quarks together,
and there's different varieties of quarks. There's up down, top strange light.
Yeah, you put in draft, it's right, recipe ice ice quark,
dry quark, IPA, oh god, october quark, pumpkin quark,
and some are shandy. Anyway, the quarks combined to make some atomic particles
like protons and neutrons, which form the nucleus of an atom around which electrons
flow orbit and now boom, you got yourself a stew. You've got particles
that interact with each other. They swap electrons, they emit light, they
absorb light, they do things right, and because of the properties of the
quarks that make them what they suspect. One of the suspected theories is that
these there's this other kind of matter, non baryonic matter, that's made up
either of a very weird collection of quarks that we consider to be highly unstable,
and so we didn't expect them to form the Spanish Inquisition. Yeah,
exactly, they were. They were not seen as terribly likely, but given
the observable data. Either it is quarks that were from filiar with subatomic partles
that were that we know and have identified that are combining in a way that
we're not familiar with, or I mean or anything. This kind of will
get into yeah, what could be just about and we'll absolutely get into that.
Um. But it's important to understand this question of quarks now because it's
going to come up a few more times. And why we keep saying baryonic
matter and um, it's it's just it's such a cool thing too, because
it's you never you don't think that the variety of quarks that go into making
a proton or a neutron matters. You know, you're like, well,
I guess somebody, somebody cares, But it matters hugely, and the quest
Um. Here's another fun example though, Um, A nucleus, sorry nucleus,
A neutron made up of quarks super unstable. However, in an atomic
nucleus it is stabilized by the proton and the electron, and so there there
is precedent even in in the the matter that that constitutes all of us and
everything we're familiar with, for something that on paper shouldn't exist that often it's
it's an unstable thing finding a way to stabilize itself. Life finds a way.
So and now everybody take a sip. That's right. Let that sink
in a little bit. Boosh. We should we should take little little breaks
because this this is a rich pack. He's shoving our hobo faces. Man,
it's like it's like eating a bowl of fluff. It's like it's like
the time that Tabitha, it's the deconstructed smore for the record, quote unquote,
Tabitha kept eating that bowl. After we were done recording. I heard
it was all right. She told me to tell you to shut up.
It was good. One one more thing, one more number. Here in
the milky way that our galaxy, not our solar system, our galaxy,
the whole, the whole deal. There is twenty times more dark matter than
bariotic matter. Bam bam but lamb dedicating this one to dark matter. Dark
matter also unique because it does not interact with light slash electromagnetic radiation. Yep.
It neither absorbs nor reflects light. And that is huge yep, because
every other type of matter that we know of does somehow or another. That's
the thing you almost think that, Oh, in our realm of experience,
the things that don't interact with light just reflect it and move on with their
day. But that's an interaction, you smug son of a bitch. You
didn't know everything. Everyone on the planet scientific community, who definitely are listening
to this, oh yeah, to their compiled right now. I hope that
no scientist is listening to this, because man, we might go like we
might have to do a month in the penalty box. Yeah, hello,
ohoi to blur. Oh Jesus, I just yell what I'm in there?
Yeah, So how do we even know that it exists? Right? That's
that's what we're aiming for on the targets, right because one of the federal
government told me, I mean, besides the numbers of velocity and mass being
irreconcilable. Ye, uh, there is another way to observe the presence of
dark matter, and you've already mentioned another way to tell is the gravitational LENSINGA
let's see if there's a if there's another way to to visualize this. When
you look at a bowl of Captain crunch, when you look at a distant
star, the light's coming right at you, but light that would that's going
off in a different direction. Let's say, you know, you would never
see it directly, and since it's not coming at you directly, you would
never see it from the side either. You just you wouldn't see that light.
Well, that light is then bent towards you, and you do see
it. So it's almost like if you take a pumpkin. Oh my god,
ladies and gentlemen, the universal pumpkin has returned to the podcast. Explained
some signs with a pumpkin. If you take a pumpkin, you set it
on a pedestal, and you're looking straight at the pumpkin, Well, you
stick a spear in the top of it. He has the side of the
pumpkin. You can't see the tip of the spear. Well, let's see,
you can't see the end of the spear because the tip's probably going in
the pumpkin. Can't see the tip of the spause it's in the pumpkin,
dude, But you can't see the end of the spear because it's pointed up
at the ceiling. Okay, well, something is between you and the pumpkin
that has enough gravitational mass. The spear actually bends downwards and you do see
the end of it. And this is one of the ways that scientists can
tell there is something out there that causes the light rays to bend like this.
This spear is the light ray in this analogy. I've got, I've
got, I've got a better pumpkin analogy for you. Okay, Imagine you've
got a pumpkin and that's on a pedestal, and exactly the pumpkin is exactly
between you and another guy thirty ft you're each thirty feet away from the pumpkin,
but you can't see each other pumpkins in the way. That guy has
got a bow and arrow, and now if he shoots straight at you,
he's just going to hit the pumpkin. The pumpkin is a star. But
this pumpkin's pretty massive. If he aims just to the side of the pumpkin.
Now, if the arrow went straight, he'd miss me. It would
fly off to the side and it would never hit me. But this pump
and is so massive that it actually is able to pull on the iron steel
tip of the arrow as it passes the pumpkin and pulls it ever so slightly
back, and so that arrow gets pulled in by the attraction of the pumpkin
and still hits me. That's gravitational lensing, Okay, I mean mine was
in mine. The pumpkin was the guy and the arrow. The spear was
the arrow. I think I'm just having a hard time, like this is
a this is a complex and it's a hard time. It's hard to make
an audio. Yours is better, obviously, I don't think so. I
just I'm bad at visualized stuff. When you describe, you know, like
that's what I'm saying, Like, oh, and I'm describing it. I
see it in my head and it makes sense. Yeah, you like,
Okay, in my scenario, I don't I didn't pick anything. I just
had dark matter as this who knows what in between me and the pumpkin.
The pumpkin was the star that was emanating light, right, and and the
spear was the ray of light that then got bent to where you could see
it. Yours is better, though, because the pumpkin is dark matter,
and then somebody shooting an arrow. The arrow is the light the light gets
if he's shooting to the side of the pumpkin, not at the pumpkin shoots
to the side of it, it gets bent by the huge gravitational pull and
comes in to hit me. Yes, it otherwise wouldn't hit at all.
I'm just glad that we both had Pumpkin ideas well. It is hard to
visualize through through the medium of podcast, but we're not gonna stop. Yeah,
just try try that and we'll come back to Pumpkins later and I'll make
sure it about him Thanksgiving time. Of course, we're coming back at p
And then what's causing the light to get bent? That's what is theorized as
as being the dark matter, because otherwise there shouldn't be anything there. We
shouldn't. There's a lot of lensing going on with no stars present, with
no observable source of mass to bend that light. And this is uh coming
straight from the horse's mouth, mister Einstein. And you would be surprised how
sensitive our instruments are and how often gravitational lensing is used as a tool.
We use gravitational lensing to determine how many planets the Sun has the speed.
I mean, we use it for so many things. We actually are very
very sophisticated with determining curvature of light in space. It's one of the it's
one of our best tools for learning about for a number of reasons. And
Einstein was the first one right to put forward the idea that gravity would affect
the path of light. Yes, and because and that's that's that's the big
thing. That's the equals mc squared. When you link energy to mass,
it means that that's a two way street, that that things that affect energy
can affect mass, things that mask and affect energy, and you you make
them both subservient to gravity. Yeah. I just saw Interstellar. I haven't
seen it. The other night I heard that, Um they finally put the
dinobots in there. They did, Thank god. I really liked it.
I really enjoyed it. It's a long movie, but I personally was was
entertained the whole way through. There was a I'm not gonna tell you what
happens, but don't it's part and parcel with what we're talking about in terms
of gravity, because there's a hole in the bucket deer lift pudding. There's
a whole concept of gravity bending space time, which is what Einstein yea put
forward, and gravity can slow time down. That's how powerful gravity is.
Not only can it bend light, but the more massive an object the slower
time goes, so that in in the movie this is this is one thing.
I don't think this will spoil anything for you. But they land on
a huge planet and the gravity, you know, is many times what Earth's
is, or at least you know it's it's a percentage higher than what Earth
is. And on the planet. When they're on the planet, an hour
equals seven years in regular time, regularly perceived time. So if they stay
an hour on this planet, seven years will have elapsed. In the spaceship
that's orbiting the plant planet dog year in the dog Star. Serious anyways,
which crazy, that's crazy, and that happens on our I mean, okay,
I have to say this. That is a gross exaggeration. That kind
of gravity would collapse people into subatomic dust. But but like even on our
own planet, people who live at sea level, like they actually time slower
for them than people who live at elevation. Um, you it's it's obviously
tiny fractions of a second. Yeah, they put an atomic clock on on
an orbiting satellite, right and determine yep, Yeah, they've confirmed it.
And there's there's no shortage of um. Classic hind Line style science fiction that
deals with this problem that you leave Earth, you're traveling close to the speed
of light, which requires you to um approach infinite mass as you get closer
to the speed of light, and so time for you slows down and for
the rest of the world. So you you you go on your your light
speed trip for a year and you come back in a hundred years have passed
on Earth. That's like, that's like a common you know, trope with
um classic science fiction, and people still talk about it because at the time
it was a new like, oh my gosh, that's a real thing.
That time is as also gravitationally variable, it can be effected, yeah,
which you know, it blows my mind because it's like for us, time
is one thing that's constant and ever marching forward towards Yeah. Yeah, I
don't know, it's it's nuts to to think about it that way, but
it has that has a lot to do with with what we're talking about as
well. And and this dark matter has this kind of effect. So I
mean, so it would you think that time would slow down if you go
through a field of dark matter. No, it's it's a it's a different
it's it's not quite as as direct as that. And again all time is
relative, so it's it's still your the time you experience relative to what someone
else experiences. Yeah, um, it's not that that. It's not like
the people who are at approaching light speed are talking all slowly to them,
time is passing totally normally to them. It's relative to the other things around
them. So you could go through And again, that is an extraordinary amount
of mass. When we talk about gravitational lensing, you're talking about enough dark
matter, and it's disparate theoretically, there's a few different theories about how um.
And we'll get to that because I've got some some numbers on on that.
How you know, how big a chunk could you bump into? Those
kind of questions, But this is on a on a galaxy scale. Back,
there's there's an arm extending hundreds of thousands of light years that's made up
of dark matter, and that in total has enough matter to bend light to
to achieve these these effects of of a hypermassive item um. So it's it's
not something you run into. And we may have talked about some black holes
or time or two, but black holes, did we do an upside on
that? How do I time travel? Yeah, but I think if I
feel like we've talked about at this at one point where if you fall into
a black hole where there's a singularity where the gravity well becomes infinite um,
that if you were transmitting as you went in, you would to people outside
of that, it would sound like you are transmitting forever, like they would
hear you scream for eternity. Yeah, that's true. That's the good thing.
But you know, like these when you get into that's one of the
really fun and interesting things. And it's one of the reasons why Einstein had
to create a theory of gravity, because Newtonian gravity stopped. It didn't describe
these amazing, huge concepts. It breaks down when you get to these these
giant orders of magnitude. Also it breaks down when you get into these very
tiny orders of magnitude, and Einstein and gravity also breaks down. So that's
why you've got quantum mechanics that explains the very tiny blah blah blah. But
you would be having to pull some very serious other maneuvers for you to temporarily
notice the gravity distortion from dark matter. I see, Okay, I bet
you're wondering how we determine dark energy at this point, man, I am
so hard. You mentioned it earlier, but um, it's called red shift.
Yeah, yeah, And this is a fairly new concept. Nobel Prize
winning concept. The speed of a galaxy moving away from the observer can be
determined by observing how it's light changes color. The faster it moves, the
redder it gets. Yeah, items moving away from you are red shifted.
Items moving towards you are blue shifted. That's Doppler effect to it's the it's
the reason why a car horn changes sounds. It goes as it approaches you.
Every time the horn emits a sound wave, the actual horn itself has
moved a little bit further, so it's compressing the sound wave, blue shifting
it into a higher frequency. And that when it passes you, it's the
horn the emitter is leaving you. So it's actually every time that it emits
another sound wave, it's a little bit further than it normally would, so
it's elongated. It's a red shifted. Yeah. The wave length, the
sound wavelength gets longer and longer, and that makes the sound lower and lower.
Yep, I mean not not to it's not like men but you hear
it. You hear it all the time, train whistles, things like that.
That is Doppler effect. That's red and blue shifting, although on an
acoustic scale, right, And this works for galaxy movement as well, and
it's been observed, it's been pretty much proven. It's just that we don't
know what this force is that's moving the that's that's accelerating galaxies to move away,
and that's the thing that is. Yeah, that's when you say big
bang, you imagine a giant water balloon going off and everything flying out,
but but slowing as it goes out from this huge ancient explosion. But our
universe is accelerating, right, It's going faster, it's exploding harder. And
so obviously in order for something to accelerate, you need to have something driving
it. What is the what is the energy driving at So that's what's termed
dark energy. And that's probably about all we'll say about that. Let's get
into some explanations of what dark matter is. Yeah, yeah, let's start
out with new trinos. New trinos are elementary particles that get emitted by nuclear
reactions. They stream at near the speed of light. They don't interact much
with other particles, which means they slip through virtually everything and are occasionally they're
very fast, very fast. They are occasionally incorrectly accused of being faster than
light. There was a little hullabaloo in Europe a couple of years, real
exciting, but wampwamp. They could be trillions of them flying through you right
now. Yeah, every second. Fun fact. When I was at the
South Pole, well you went to the South Pole. Oh, shut up,
you get me later. Everybody will hear it, and I can't cut
it out because you reference it multiple times. Yeah, you'll get me.
Um. Yeah. When I was down there, there was a few really
great experiments going on, and this was all in service to trying to find
the Higgs boson. And so they had a thing called AMANDA, which is
the Antarctic Muon and Neutrino Detection Array. Wow. And it was this amazing
thing. It was a three dimensional um I hope so lattice that they built
into the ice. They sunk these huge, deep holes into the ice and
then hung detectors like like Christmas lights on these long lines, and then they
filled the holes back in and so it was this The ice was just this
great medium to hold them. And at the South Pole, because of the
magnetic field of the Earth is very weak there, it has the least distortion.
And so that's what they were doing, is neutrino detection cool, Yeah,
plus a lot easier to or a lot quicker to get to absolute zero.
Yeah, it was you know that was the good thing is that even
at the South Pole. Um. Yeah, they used liquid nitrogen and liquid
hydrogen to cool the equipment and they had to fly that in on these big
doors and a good friend of mine was in charge of that, and I
think I have a video of me huffing a lot of liquid helium of the
tanks. Cheese is it's you know, South Pole? What else are you
gonna do? The problem with neutrinos is um do they have mass? That's
what we are trying to figure out right now with with very delicate detection systems,
and this the detection array, its job was to record the interaction of
a neutrino impacting another particle and making the subsequent muans as a result, like
that was I think it was muans as a result. But yeah, that's
what they were trying to find is that neutrino impact, and every time they
thought they had a hit, it was a big deal. Like they would
everyone would collect in the galley and they're like, Okay, this is our
data. Now we're gonna go over it, and they be like, nah,
I feel I gotta. I feel like there's a part of me that
while we're trying very hard to explain this, and I know that I understand
it, and I feel like I'm almost certainly made mistakes explaining it. I
feel like, man, we're gonna get wailed on with penalty boxes. I
feel like we should declare ourselves immune. This episode just putting. I mean,
it's a put it out there. It's an ig noble thought to be
sure, but we we are definitely delving into new territory for for blurry photos.
That's true. You know what, bring it, Bring it, punks,
I'm not afraid of you. Don't. Don't bring it, Okay,
let us try for for goodness sakes. Would you notice in the intro that
he was being referred to Dave but his real name is David. What is
that all you got? Sorry? Yeah, you know, I thought it
would be a cool deviation from some of the Oh I love it, this
is this is. This is the one of my favorites. If you guys
like it, we can definitely do more. There's plenty of physics. But
anyway, keep talking. There is not enough neutrinos out there to account for
all the dark matter. That is one reason why they're probably not a good
candidate to be dark matter. Plus they're probably too hot to even have have
mass to to to be matter at all. Yeah, they they would need
to condense first. They would need to get cooler condensed into something that was
actually um that actually carried some weight and had some gravity to it, which
leads us to axions. Yeah, which are hypothetical particles that are slow and
cold enough. That solves the problem of the neutrinos. Uh. And they
rarely interact with bariotic matter. That helps. That's a that's a point for
them. Here's the problem. They haven't been directly observed yet. No,
but there are some hard working mother hubbards in abandoned gold mines. Yeah,
there's one in I think South Dakota, the Axion dark Matter Experiment where for
some reason the X is capitalized. You got to their go great drinkers.
They do kick flips on skateboards. They don't wear helmets. They don't care
who they hurt, fluting themselves. But they they've been scanning for very particular
mass ranges. They're like, you know, they scan nothing, how about
now nothing? And they're they're just about to upgrade their their rig. They've
like much like the South Pole, they have a problem. The colder their
gear is, the faster it can work. And they're they're just about to
set up a new refrigeration system, so they should really be able to rip
through it. But yeah, they're doing a lot of great work on it.
Sweet. So axions is knocking at the door, but we haven't let
them in yet. That's right, you know, house is knocking on the
door. Who wamp wample? Now there's two varieties. There's lat whimps WAPs
growth good enough of your whimps, bab weekly interacting massive particles WYMP. These
are clouds of particles that we have yet to explain, which do not react
strongly to other particles, but when they encounter each other they annihilate and give
off a gamma raise non baryonic, nonburionic. They're not directly observed, they've
been hinted at in experiments, but there's no conclusive evidence yet, but this
would be a huge cloud of particles that we can't that we don't have the
capability to measure or see right now now. And here's the weird thing though,
and I read this, uh in one of the papers, that was
that when they're trying to herman um, you know, is this like a
fine vapor that's out in the cosmos? Are they are their chunks, are
their baseballs of this stuff floating around? And weirdly enough, there's a range
and they've kind of mapped something out right, Yeah, and they they've found
some indirect ways of kind of seeing approximately what it would look like um.
For what they're looking for, like it has to be between A and B,
where A is about fifty five grams and anything smaller than that, and
apparently there was some sort of detector because they were they didn't go into digital
on this on Skylab, which is late seventies anything smaller than that and Skylab
would have detected it. And then on the upper end is like one hundred
one one million, billion billion grams, so big stars, you know,
because that doesn't come crashing into the system because of the very the very uh
discernible effects of very immediate gravitational lensing of of of around an object. You
know, you could determine the edges of it if it was bigger than that.
So they actually have a range that they're that they're looking for. And
I wonder, so these particles, they they they obviously they have to interact
gravitationally, and they think that maybe there's some weak nuclear force going on.
But I wonder, like, if you were in a starship riding through this,
say it was all the size of volleyballs, I mean, do you
hit it and it just it just flies apart because only only gravity, which
is one of the weakest attractive forces, ironically is uh is when you compare
it, you know, to some of the other electromagnetic yeah, some of
the atomic uh you know, attractive strong forces or things like that. It's
it's amazing. But if that's all it has going for it, it's kind
of interesting. I don't know. That's that's another cool thing I read about
ramps. Ramps, Well, what about on the other end of the spectrum
and MACHOs macho, macho, that's right. I want to be. I
wrung to be a macho man manstroman. I'm never gonna stop doing or something
else. You can tell it's a good one because they make sure to say
what I was doing. MACHOs are massive compact halo objects. Yeah, these
are non luminous, massive objects. We're talking Jupiter size and up floating around.
They're very dark. They could be brown dwarves, they could be neutron
stars, they could be black holes that we just can't see with our instruments.
But they definitely have an impact on gravity around the area. Gravitational impact.
Right, they definitely bend yep spacetime light. They're no in those neighborhoods.
Is ne'er do whales and miscreants. Uh, it's just it's it's a
bunch of junk that's just floating out there, that's dark, that's black,
that that we can't see. These are definitely tangible things and it's just that
we can't see them, and we're kind of being silly thinking there's something other
than that. Um. There was an interview just uh, just like within
the last three days that I read, and it was about these different teams
that were all looking for dark matter, but they were looking for different kinds
of at different particles, and all of them they're like, you know,
they were They were all really genial too. It's something they were like competing
or anything. But they were like, you know, I gotta if I'm
being totally honest, I don't think any of us are looking for the right
thing. And they all were like, yeah, we kind of get that
feeling too, But they have to check what they're checking. They have to
be able to eliminate these options. They have to say, well, this
is our best guests. We think it's whimp so we think it's axeons.
So they're like, well, then we have to look for them. But
these guys are like, we are looking for a solution in terms of things
that we already understand, and they said they're they're like, we everyone thinks
that when we finally get a hold of some of this stuff or able to
really track it down, that it's going to blow our minds. That it's
going to have interactions that we didn't even know were possible, particles that we
don't have described or even have in our lexicon anywhere. He's like, you
know, they're the universe doesn't have to play by the rules that work in
this corner of things, and that's a really cool idea. I thought that
even the scientists are like, well, we're looking and we hope to find
them. It'd be great if if we could, if if we guessed right.
But there's this kind of undercurrent that what they're really doing is just doing
the due diligence. Go to college, try so they can scratch that off
their list and say, Okay, what's the next idea of what it could
be? Yeah, and I think that's great. That sounds like it leads
to the next thing that I've got on my list. That dark matter is
actually gravity from objects in another dimension. Whoa, and forgive me for waiting
into this mire, but I'm going to go in because of dropma keys and
we're gonna try it. This it's it's been proposed that spacetime exists, or
rather appears four dimensional and nearly flat. This space time encompasses a membrane,
which everybody just shortens to brain b R A n E. Okay. In
looking for a single unified field theory or an m theory or a theory of
everything, the thought that large extra dimensions may exist, especially when reconciling string
theory. Right, stay with me now, our brain world. Just imagine
a sheet of paper. Keep saying membrane world, even though they don't say
that, because it sounds like you're trying to make it into somebody's thought idea.
All right, our membrane world. Do you think of a sheet of
paper. We're a dot on it. We're a doodle of dick butt,
not even that not even that big, just like a pin dot. This
is the the four dimensional space time that we occupy, right, Yeah,
may have one or more shadow membranes nearby. That would be another piece of
paper that you would put up next to it. Right, Since light does
not propagate through the membranes, we can't observe that. We can't observe anything
from this othern membrane, but gravity may propagate through. Oh so, so
it's almost as though like if that piece of paper had a fold in it,
that fold would be kind of yet pushed into the next piece of paper.
More so, like if it had a massive dot on it, that
the gravity from that massive dot, which would be anything a huge something with
a lot of mass in our typical world, our typical universe that we think
is is real, that the gravity would be so strong from that it would
influence this whole other sheet of paper that we're on. I don't think that
that's that that crazy. I don't either, but you know they have you
know, an electron will a single electron will will interact with itself in every
position it can be in. So so why not sure? I mean the
thought that you know, gravity, like you said, gravity is one of
the weaker of the fundamental forces. But to me, if that were the
case, if it had you know, if it could exert itself through dimensions,
that's pretty powerful and kind of a curveball. Well, you know,
it's the same way. I think gravity is one of the weaker forces,
but in the same way that water is soft. But you know, let's
get off fortuno. You know water, roads, mountains, it cuts through
rocks. Well yeah, you know, because it's it's intractable, you know,
it just it just it doesn't stop. Yeah, So same thing with
gravity. You know, if it's it's a weak force, but on these
huge scales, well it don't quit. Gravity could move mountains, kill me
anyway. That's you. You may have seen a show or a video or
something lighters of someone you know which uh um. You may have seen a
video of some somebody holding a bowling ball and putting it on a trampoline,
like in the middle of the trampoline, and then that's them saying, this
is a star. It's exerting. Uh, it's gravity and bending spacetime.
The trampoline is spacetime. So then when they roll a marble around it,
yeah, it gets a fact. It pulls it in a different direction from
the straight line that you roll it in, and then it starts encircling the
bowling ball. Blah blah blah. Well, just imagine that there is another
trampling above the first tramp That's why I said, if there's a fold in
the paper, I was thinking exactly of that, of that description. I
was like, oh, so if this had a massive thing and it was
pushing down, pushing could be pushing it, or it could be pulling it
from you know, from the bottom or whatever. You know. I don't
know where the papers at four dimensional, but but you know, I can
you know, why why the hell not there is There is no question that
there are a huge amount of things. It's not like we have all the
basic building blocks right now and the Lego kit and are just waiting to build
the dragon, right That's not the case. There are so many more things
that we have no concept of. We have a very limited understanding of physics
on that scale, right, And that's what I love about this, Like
dark energy is like this huge warning that there is a lot we don't know,
and that that that it's it's it's inescapably there. We know it's there,
but we can't explain it. And I think that's perfect. That's exactly
what people need. You said dark energy, did you mean dark matter?
What's the death? And for that example, I meant both ways. There's
there's this there's this stuff out there that is acting and doing and being acted
upon and that we can't explain. That's that's enough to affect galaxies. Yeah,
that is huge and important and and that's the thing, that's the best
part. It's ninety five percent of the fucking universe. Yeah, it's it's
not like some tiny, weird minute detail. We yea. It is the
foundation of how everything else is happening and knowing what it what it is.
This is the search for what it is, knowing what it is, figuring
it out. I mean that that just it gives us a little piece of
our five percent back. And I think that you know, Ultimately, it
helps predict things that that we would otherwise have no idea about it would It
helps understand how we fit in with with things. To me, that's yeah,
that's worth something. Yeah. I think there's nothing better than a humbling
mystery to find out that there's something that's so fundamental to everything and we don't
we don't have clue one. I think that's great. And it also,
you know, it seems at first a little overwhelming and sad and lonely that
that we're only part of five percent of the universe. But at the same
time, miss Preti spatial, Hey, look who's unique. Here's every emen
So think it's ribbon everybody, everyone, All baryonic based entities get a ribbon.
Oh anyway, so yeah, there, there you go. That's our
first foray into darkness and uh the farti darkness. That's dark matter in a
huge, hyper massive hty gravitationally lensing, light bending nutshell. And now it's
time to fly straight into the black hole. That's right, or Maximilian the
robot has human eyes. Please anyone who got that reference you are my favorite
people. And if you didn't, it's not too late. But I ain't
gonna tell you where it's from. Yep, it's time to breach the singularity
that is space flora you start, Okay, that's that's what I'm like thinking.
How about a massive object that somehow exerts force on probably pop culture?
Oh really, Arc Shatner? Oh nice, I love Shatner. Oh I'm
not going to get an impersonation here. Struck it out on that one.
All right. How about how about this I'm in the pun zone, dude,
Okay, very focused. I can't be detected, alright. I neither
admit, absorb, nor reflect. Like it's a bad Shatner. But then
again, that's all I wanted something. Um. Okay, did you hear
that? Um? There are actually organisms? I mean that are They're composed
of dark matter? Really yep? And um they're They're just like us.
They have hopes wing the dreams and I don't have wings. They have wings?
They do? They have aspirations? Are the angels? Um? No?
But um. At one point in their history one of their test pilots
was badly horribly injured the Russians. No, and uh, he was thrown
out of the aircraft of the test vehicle. But I mean limbs lost wow.
But they decided, what if we use these other particles. He's extraordinarily
rare. Did you know the only only five percent of the universe has these
particles. They use them to rebuild him better, faster, stronger. Cost
them six million dollars. Yeah, they made him the baryonic man Lee Majors
is. Yeah, man, I have a theory for for that bending and
warping and that heavy force in your gut. Oh God, don't I know
it? You know what? You know what it could be? It could
be one of two things. What shrimps and nachos ah truth both at the
same time. Even Oh, you know, there's another sum topic particle that
is um very low notebic doesn't really move fast at all. But scientists have
been trying to collect these particles because they're just so good when you spread them
on toasts new tellos delicious. Yeah, yeah, very very delicate instruments to
catch it. That's right, life and toast a big old spoons puns.
You're welcome, America. I've been telling you this for months, Dave.
Now, with the help of the scientists of the world, we shall attempt
to delve into something so strange, so poorly understood that we don't even have
the foundational theories to describe it. We barely have a term for it.
Some call it was sitka. The ancient Vedics called it me wow. We
scientists can only call it listener. I thought that the Vedics were giant cats,
right all right, straight out of the mail bag. Oh God,
you reach in and just fifteen green tentacles grab your hand and you start hearing
the mnemonic kiss of madness build in your mind. They just let go.
I'm like, maybe later because Fulu hungers Flulu or flu not to get ken
in here for this like Cthulhu hungers Wow. Wow, Yeah, that's right.
They thought the idea it's writing in. Yes, the concept the hunger
of Cthulu has voice geez I mean and ears beyond all comprehensions. True,
that makes sense. It hits us with this first time rider, longtime listener,
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some HP Lovecraft, and I think for that one might just turn your mind
back to our amazing two parter with the ignominious Kenneth Height. Ever heard them?
Yeah, nothing, nothing but nothing. But I almost suspect that you've
heard this before, so maybe I'm not understanding that. Ah Um also has
some ideas for some show topics that we have discussed, and and and maybe
a little too quickly just thrown out with the bathwater. So we'll go over
it. Well, we're willing to revisit our ideas. Oh always. Indeed,
thank you very much, Cathulu Hungers, and thank you for leaving me
my mind somewhat intact. Sure, I mean, I hear the voices,
I see the shadow spiders, but I just ye talking up to getting older.
Yeah, that's the crush of insanity for you. Floor. What do
you got all right? Heard from listener, longtime listener Jeff Oh, Hello,
Jeff, Hello, Jeff. Jeff actually writes in with a little little
bit of a short story. Oh really, food out there for Halloween.
We're of course a little late on getting to it for Halloween. But you
know, the spook never stops here, never spook. Spooks don't quit.
Spook don't quit. Spook keeps going. Spook don't quit. This one no
vegibi, so uh oh say safe to read. But he sends us a
ghost story for Halloween. It was based on a personal story of his.
But it's in short story form. How short? Yeah? What are you
signing me up for here? Brother? I proposed this. If you've got
a short story, yo, I'll solve it. Check out my beat while
my DJ revolves it. Short story babying ing ing ing ing ing. If
you've got one that you'd like us to throw in there, and you know
the length that we're talking about, you've listened to enough of our ghost stories.
Yeah, the length is called short. The length is short and super
short. We want Hoku's motherfucker, and we're aiming for PG. Thirteen of
course with them. But if you want to do that, we might put
together a supplemental episode and throw that out there and maybe that's a fun thing
to do for Yule because we didn't do ghost stories last Yule. That's right
as we Oh, listener ghost stories? Yeah, why not listener ghost stories?
Yeah, and scaring the presents right out of your stocking. Stocking is
your butt in the presents are And we'll we'll get to we'll get to that.
Well, we'll read we'll read them on on there. We'll may do
a oh yeah, it's speciale and a little shorter episode maybe a supplemental type
thing of me jig. But you know, for a Christmas holiday, Yeah,
for for Chrismus. Oh, it's coming up, everybody, Saturn,
Nilia, dude, guys, smiss is coming. But Jeff does how you
like? I'm not gonna tell you what you're mean. It's America. You
could you could throw an X in there and put it on cards at that
point, maybe that's something we can put in the store. You're one stop
supply shop for SMIs presents. You're only stop supply. Jeff does wish all
uh our glaucoma patients a happy Halloween, and that's what he's calling blurry photos.
Listeners. Oh I like that. Glaucoma pae also implies that they're high.
Maybe so maybe no, Uh yeah, Jeff, we still got this
here. We're gonna see if we get any more and then we'll throw them
all on the bonfire and toast some marshmallows around it and get nick and probably
but just no, we've we've got that fire sparked. Thank you for tank
kiss her Wow you wow. Oh we got an email from Taper. Oh
hot Taper. Hello. Taper hits us with this. Uh he really enjoyed
blurry Fotober. At the point he wrote this, it was an ongoing thing.
So I'm putting the past tense in for him. And he has to
point out an interesting error that is not a penalty box. Oh wow,
it's just something that he's aware of it. I can see how this would
be like a this is this is like no one at the end of me
reading this is going to be thankful for this, because it's like a little
splinter that you have to carry for the rest of your life. Yeah,
but you know, we're a community and if one of us has mouth herpies,
let's all get it in the most fun possible way. Okay, do
you like where I went with that? Our eagle sound which we will never
stop using. Sure, it is not the screech of an eagle, it's
the screech of a red tailed hawk. Now, the media has been lying.
Media has been lying you for years about this, movies to TV.
I'm gonna read the rest of this like Alice Jones. Okay, seriously,
in movies and TV, whenever there's an eagle sound effect, here's a cry
of a red tailed hawk. I wish that he had a big like weird
old Texan man as a as a sidekick Hall because it sounds so much more
Badassah Leicester, do you just stroke out? No, he's just so mad
at Liberty's dying. Yeah. So even the sound effects library is lying to
us. It's an example of the coconut effect, when it completely fake sounds
or visual effect has used so often the media that the real thing doesn't even
sound right like coconuts banging always sound like cor horse hoofs um or. Common
examples include owls making loud wing flap noises which they don't loud, BP computer
sounds, CGI shots with lens flap. That's true on TV shows when you
type it's all like that never happens, or like um when people hang up
in movies and it goes straight to It's like, well I er dial tout
instantly. That doesn't happen, and people still to this day occasionally this is
a holdover from like the fifties where they tap the thing a few times and
go hello, tap tap tap tap tap. That is in my whole lifetime.
I've never done anything for anyone it has hung up. Yeah, but
he also includes some links to real eagle cries, which is great, and
the red red tailed huk for comparison. Uh huhs just so we know which
is awesome. That's a good hey after school special sound boy. Getting my
smiles out of that one. Well, well, I'm just saying it's and
it's worth it. We're learning here. I've got to tell you. It's
a before school sounds whist. Y'all got shamalan, y'all got redtailed hawked.
Um. He doesn't think anything can be done to fix it. I agree,
Well, they're never gonna come around to it. Don't don't hate me
for this. I knew it because the sound effect actually is labeled hawk screech.
But it just sounds so good. It sounds like freedom to me.
You're a part of the industrial complex that's keeping the Redtailed Hawk down. You
knew what it was, and you lied to me, Flora, you lied
to him. I could have blown the whistle, you could have blown the
lid off of it, and the loop didn't and you didn't. I'll live
with this. Give me give me back that water filter. I'll just give
it back. No, I've got bad My family needs it. I love
them. You need it for the FEMA camp. Oh man, um,
how about this? He could rule it evidence of him mundane superpower and eagle
with the uncanny ability to flawlessly imitator redtail Hawk. Oh pretty awesome. Wow,
that's what we'll That's that's how we'll. Yeah, that's how we'll do
it. Thank you, Taper. Is there a truck backing up? Is
my heart rate gonna drop? Am I gonna do it? Is because it's
time for ECG bird? Oh yeah, I said. He enjoyed the Civil
War episode and the Badgers, which is, by the way, the best
sound to scare somebody. If you lunge at someone from around a corner,
hide under a boat a hamburg. I'm sure really that sound really scares him.
When you lunge around a corner. Yeah, that's the sadum that really
sells it. I use the bag I use the badger sound to scare Greg
back like crazy. He's like a ten percent badger sound and he's like you
need Yeah, of course you were around the corner in the dark too.
Well, that's proof of my concept. Ecg Bert writes in with with some
cool stuff, including suggestions which we appreciate, love them, and also regarding
lucid dreaming, he's done it on occasion, though it's usually not been as
exciting as it sounds. He says he's found himself walking around some empty offices
and sneaking around a pickle factory, for instance, paging doctor Freud. He
says he has had c X but ended up breaking something which was rather alarming.
Now by something, do you a pickle jar or a pickle? Yeah,
what do you mean? Breaks up? Anyway? Hearts? Oh,
we can go with hearts, but anyway. Just a week ago, he
said he flew for the first time in the dream. It was an awesome
experience. He had his hands at his sides and he sped through the air
like a bullet rocketeer style. Yeah, though with complete sense of control.
So it's like he had the helmet on, and he said it felt so
real he could actually hear and feel the air rushing past his ears. Isn't
that crazy? How how dreams will Yeah, the sensory memory will will really
spring up and dreams like that. And I've I've had some of that recently
too. Um. Yeah, that's what I was reading. It says as
to what the other dreams say about the state of my mind, Please don't
bring forward into it late a bitch. Oh, sometimes sometimes we don't play
on a lot of stuff. I had a dream my job is that a
hot dog factory, and I had to lick all the mustard off the hot
dog. I don't know what it means. Uh. He also doesn't mind
our English accents off. Thank you real thanks brother. Um. He says
he's punishingly bad at puns, so he won't attempt any, just in case
we want to punch him for making us endure them, you know. Um.
It was recently pointed out to me with no small amount of disgust.
I was sitting on the sofa and I was texting you, and my friend
leans over and goes, Honestly, you guys text each other in accents,
and I was like, yeah, she was just like, dear god,
okay, and we did. We were we were in the midst of like
the worst Cockney text. Yeah, it's fun. Oh, thank you,
Ecge and thanks thank you sir. We got an email from the bombardier.
That's funny because I thought of that. But I've also thought that he's a
Mexican wrestler. It'dier. I don't need to get going either way. I
don't. I always thought a really great name for a Mexican wrestler was Bob
L. Bombastino. And that might be because at some point I saw a
Mexican wrestler with that name. But in my mind, that's the penultimate Mexican
wrestler. It'll bombast no ill ill. I don't know anything, so I'm
sure whatever I said, uh, he hits it with this. The episode
in the Civil War Ghost was beyond argument, our best production yet. Wow.
See this is all for you, Flora. You did this. The
quality of the writing, what the research, Okay, we're evident, and
as well as the sound editing. Thank you did you write this and sent
it in? Yes? I can't fool you. Bommadeer lives near Gettysburg and
he visited the battlefields and memorial several times. Never been a Civil War buff
himself, but his parents and grandparents were interested in so they heard plenties heard
plenty of stories about it, but they were always about the strategies and the
politics and the technology that was used at the time. But he really liked
the stories and testimonials and quotes and everything, and then you know, filtered
in with the ghost stories. He really liked that and he thought that it
was a really cool way to do it, and he really enjoyed it.
I thought it would have been horrifying with or without the ghosts, because it
was. It was an awful thing. I'm not sure that our signature brand
of humor added anything to the episode, but also didn't detract. So I'll
take a wash on that. That's a push. We'll lead those chips on
the table for the next time, and maybe we would all right, And
the satire of the Civil War documentary was spot on, So thank you very
much, Bombardier. Yeah, I'm glad people like that. I really was.
It was a it was a swing for the fences, I think,
yeah, and a hit. Well. We brought a lot of runners home.
Yeah, yeah, game's not over yet. Yeah, thanks for writing
in, and we we have one more. Uh, we we do have
some that uh you know, we've we're gonna get to We've we've mentioned this
before, but we've come to a point at which and thankfully don't stop.
But we get more emails each week than we could conceivably get through in an
episode that lasted less than three hours. So so we catch up per episode
as much as we can, and then we then we really clean out the
mailbox with the supplementals. So that's kind of that's going to be our our
back. Yeah, that's kind of how we do that. So I know
sometimes that means it takes a while, and I'm sorry about that, but
we're also not going to be like, well, there's a lot of them,
So now we'll just read two at random, you know, right.
Yeah, you guys take the time to write, and we love it,
and so you deserved it to have that dealt with properly. So yeah,
so next time we'll hear from Patty, oh furniture, do you get it?
Do you get it? We'll hear something from Connor Smithing wid Ironicus has
written a game. Yeah, so so we'll keep plugging through. We got
one more here from Debuira wouldn't talk to the signing, And actually it's it's
funny because he was asking about the al faka really yeah, because we the
way we were saying it, you can't really spell it, I was.
I mean, we said it every way it could be said. So um.
I actually I actually wrote back to I'm probably murdering his name. I'm
terrible, but wrote back and provided the spelling and stuff. And he actually
wrote wrote some really cool information, oh sweet back, including some info about
Slenderman, because we we mentioned the grossman, yeah in in the Slenderman episode.
And uh. He says he can tell us that he's never heard of
anything like that before the Slender craze. And the name itself seems a bit
fishy to him because it sounds too much like a literal translation of tall Man
into German. Oh and he says, if it was a genuine German folklore
name, he thinks it would have been Langeman, which I think means the
long man. Well, yeah, um, that's what I got from it.
And he says, Grossman simply sounds awkward, and I think it even
I think it even does literally translate into like great man. Yeah, somebody
who didn't know trying to make Yeah, that's cool. I like that.
Thanks for pointing that out. I think I like it when people are are
as uh, paying attention to syntax and word usage matters. And it's a
good way to smell a rat. And yeah, and I love that.
And and please, you know, to our foreign listeners, whom we love
dearly. Uh, if if we, you know, get anything wrong with
something that you know about, please please let us know that offer does not
extend to accents. We're gonna get those rats. That's intrinsically wrong. When
I wrote to him about the alp, haca made a lot more sense to
him, But he says he never would have thought of that entity in relation
to hellhounds, which is interesting. He says to him, it's more akin
to the alp or in certain versions alike anthrap or like a werewolf or something.
I think we mentioned alps in one of our episodes. Was it the
Fairies? Wouldn't No, No, it was the fair Point Bullstone. We
talked about alph a lot another various help help various Melmackians. It's just right.
They all just ruining old teapot. That's uh, it's it's very interesting
too because in the research it mentioned that it was a shape shifter and and
a lot of times it appeared as you know, this dog that would jump
on people. But it sounds like in reality it's more of a shape shifter
than yeah, than what that we were like to leave. But and he
says, there's a local variation of the myth right proper remis Lupin that tells
of a creature named boxon Wolf that was clad in a wolf's pelt and jumped
onto people's backs that traveled through the forest at night. He would let his
victim carry him for a short time and then jump off again and vanish into
the forest. And the story goes at one time the boxing wolf actually got
caught, I guess, being on someone's back and received a severe beating from
the local smith. The smith was very surprised to find one of the villagers
inside the fur, and it seemed the buxen Wolfe was just a prankster that
delighted in giving his fellow man a good fright and getting hit with a smith's
hammer right yeah, after after he got that sucking chest wound worked on.
But there's there is even a statue that had that was commissioned forty years ago
to commemorate the tail, and he said he might even have to take a
small john to over to the statute and snap a pictures in a TuS,
which would be awesome. There's a good chance, not a good chance,
but there's a chance that a good friend of mine is going to get stationed
in Germany, in which case I'm going to go over there to visit him.
Oh yeah, look all that crazy stuff up I can. I could
probably even try to tag along or jump on your back and a wolf's pelt
and see how far I get too. I'm going to I'm going to learn
German. My plan is this, wherever he gets stationed, just by way
of me trying to be a really elaborate dick. Wherever he gets stationed,
I'm going to learn the language better than he possibly could. Then when I
go to visit him, I'm going to take him on a tour of the
place he lives. It's gonna be so much fun, devious and delightful.
Yeah, I'm a son of a bitch. And also then I learn a
language that's fun. Well, yeah, there's that too. Well, Doc
Dipiora. Yeah, thank you for writing, Thank all of you, Thank
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