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Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man,

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I'm forty. Go ahead, make
my day every single week. I

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put my freaking heart and soul into
this. I don't go out there and

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laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's
funny to me. I don't wanna go

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out there and get embarrassed on Monday
night football fun everybody. I think that

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at the beginning of a beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed from yesterday.

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Still the same person I was yesterday, and I got the same thing

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for you that I had yesterday.
You know why I'm here. You play

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to win the game. You don't
play to just play it. That's a

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great thing about sports. You play
to win, and I don't care if

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you don't have any wins. You
go play to win. When you start

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telling me it doesn't matter to retire
get out for the Nats, well,

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production matters too, and that's the
reason the Tigers have made a significant move.

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Welcome everybody, and I'm Monday.
Glad you're with us on this June

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third, the first Monday of the
month of June. I'm Matt Sheppard.

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Welcome to Exus and Bros. Ben
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may be in the great state of
Michigan. We welcome the input. Tiger's

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in winner eight four yesterday over Boston. They pound out fourteen hits, They

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score four times in the tenth.
Remember I was thinking about this yesterday while

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watching It. Was it? Ben? Was it? Two weeks ago?

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People were calling in. They were
upset that aj Hinch didn't bunt in extra

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innings. They wanted the run to
get home. They were hoping that you

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could put some pressure on the opposition. I forget exactly which game that was,

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but it was extras obviously, And
so I remember saying that the philosophy

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is when you're on the road,
you go for the big inning. At

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least that's his philosophy. I'm not
saying whether it's right or wrong. I'm

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just telling you his belief is when
you're the road team, you go for

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a beginning. Unfortunately for the Tigers
that day anyway, it did not work.

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Out. If you're at home,
the other team gets the run,

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you know what you need to do. Detroit yesterday had the runner at second

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base, Mark Canna's up. He
hits a little dribbler to third base.

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It's an infield hit. He did
not advance the runner via the bunt.

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He was not going to do that. Now it worked out yesterday. It

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doesn't mean it's always right. But
just because it didn't work out earlier this

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year when you and I were talking, doesn't mean that it never works out

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either. So the bottom line is
Detroit gets the win. They get the

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split in Boston the final eight to
four. I don't want to nitpick over

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victories because you'll take it. You're
still a game under five hundred. You're

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playing five hundred ball on the road. You're gonna stay on the road now

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because the series with Boston is over
and now you're off to take on the

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Rangers. He'll take on Texas,
who are six nothing winners over Miami.

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Yesterday at do Ley, Scarcia with
his thirteenth homer and a couple of RBIs

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and a really nice defensive play in
right field. Really good player doesn't hit

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for high average, but a really
good player, of course, the defending

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World Series champions, and they too, like the Tigers, are a game

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under five hundred. However, as
I said, don't want to nitpick,

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it's okay to be concerned, even
in victory about certain things that you're noticing.

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And one of them was Casey mis
and I couldn't help but think.

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And again, I hate feeling this
way, but I'm just telling you my

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thoughts. Okay, So I love
your thoughts too. Casey Mii's one to

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one like him a lot, good
dude. However, it's a struggle.

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It's not lights out stuff. It's
not overpowering stuff. It's not let's use

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the cliche, go ahead, ace
like stuff. There is a point in

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time, and he's twenty seven.
Now, there is a point in time

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when you look at things and you
say to yourself, okay, I think

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I know who he is. Things
can always change. Granted, we're talking

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about a guy who is, you
know, drafted first round first overall twenty

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eighteen and really only three full not
even three full seasons, because last year

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only through two had two starts,
so twenty twenty one is the full season.

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That's when he made thirty starts in
his career the one full season,

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and it's he just has not been
I think the guy you expected him to

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be seven and nine is not in
his lone full season, is not an

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ace pitcher. He's not the top
of a rotation type of guy. And

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I think that's why you've seen.
Look, they've recognized this. Don't tell

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me they haven't. They'll tell you
no. But come on, you go

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out and get Jack Flaherty, You
go out and get Kent tom Ada.

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You've done what you've done over the
last couple of years. You know damn

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well what you're doing. You're admitting
it for the most heart. And I'm

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I'm not saying they're wrong, because
I think they are right, but it

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bums out a little bit, right, does me. I'm talking about a

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one to one overall, and Casey
Mice is a back end of a starting

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rotation pitcher right now. That's who
he is. And yes, people will

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measure him against Joey Bart of San
Francisco, Alec Baum of Philadelphia, Jonathan

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India of Cincinnati, just to name
a few guys not gonna go over the

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entire draft in twenty eighteen. But
those are some of the guys, all

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right, but Casey Mice is if
it's one one right now, it's been

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a disappointing one to one, and
he's not the only one. The other

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is Spencer Torkelsen. Torkosen yesterday sat
out again, so he only played in

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half the series against Boston and then
was sent down. So you know this

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by now. I'm not telling you
anything. You don't know. His numbers

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are tough to swallow, and I'm
wondering as much as he may have been

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failing is probably a really strong word, been disappointing. How much has the

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Tigers hitting staff disappointed him. Here's
the slash line, hitting two to one,

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that's not going to cut it.
You and I both know that,

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even though we've said batting average a
little overrated, two a one, the

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on base to eighty six, it's
the same as it was when he was

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a rookie. The slug is three
point thirty. I mean, none of

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these numbers are going to cut it. The power is not there. It's

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just four bombs and he's driven at
eighteen. On top of that, just

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as big a concern right now is
the lack of fielding has not been what

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you expected, and the winds above
replacement don't look at errors. Okay,

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it's not been there, so they
send him down and rightfully, so what

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do you do now, Canna or
Schelle? They bring up Justin Henry Molloy,

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another outfielder. We'll talk about that
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You could text us Sports Radio to
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story in Michigan. I think it's
one of the biggest stories in baseball.

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Spencer Torkelsen is demoted and rightfully so
really good article about not just the numbers,

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because we can get caught up in
numbers all we want. It's what

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somebody termed the quality of contact indicator. He ranks forty third percentile in exit

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velocity. I know there's a lot
of people. I'm tired of exit VLO,

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I'm tired of launch angle. I
get it because there are so many

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numbers associated with baseball. It could
be paralyzing. It's a paralysis by analysis

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oftentimes it really is. I think
it messes with players. My time with

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the Tigers, people were there were
a number of pitchers where they're throwing,

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they're turning around and they're looking at
the scoreboard to see how fast they're throwing.

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They can be obsessed with it because
they feel like they have to reach

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a certain number, just like you
and I do, just like fans believe.

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Fans are blown away by Joel Zamaya. Right, Oh my god,

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he's touching ninety nine on a regular
basis. That's one hundred miles per hour.

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We love seeing that lit up on
the television screen and then talking about

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it. We don't do that with
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anymore. I would say probably ninety
seven is when people go, oh,

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okay, there's something about that triple
digit number. There's something about one hundred

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that makes us go, whoa,
that guy's throw right, Okay. The

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exit villo isn't much different. The
exit villo you're seeing, you're going,

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oh man, that dude smoked that
ball. He turned on that one.

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He got all that one, hit
that one on the screws, that one's

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laced all that stuff right. So
forty third percent of the eighteenth percentile and

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barrel rate and forty second percentile in
hard hit rate. Those are things that

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athletes that hitters forget the athletes things
because it's about baseball players. Those are

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the things players can fall back on. Well, I'm not getting rewarded,

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but I'm squaring it up. Folks, have you ever played golf and then

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you're not scoring very well? But
this is the stuff that I use as

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an excuse sometimes because I may not
be scoring well. I'm striking the ball

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well. Have you ever heard while
you're playing with your friends or have you

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ever used it yourself? I have
full disclosure I have. I feel good

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with my swing. I'm striking it
well. I'm just not scoring very well.

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I hit it where I wanted to, got a bad bounce. All

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those different things. Baseball players aren't
much different in that regard. Baseball players.

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Hey, you know what, I'm
hitting it hard. It's just right

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at them. It's an atom boy, but it's not there for him.

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My worry for a guy like Spencer
Torkolsen, who I think again, really

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good, dude. I think he's
a tough kid. I think you have

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to be the one one Monikers.
As special as it may be, it

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is hard to live up to it
is man, we don't always appreciate creator

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understand it. I liken it a
lot of times to the individual sports tennis

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and golf, just to name a
couple. I want you to think of

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the amount of it's hard for us
to grasp, okay, but the amount

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of pressure on the best player in
their sport or the among the best player

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ever. Tiger Woods is a pretty
good example. The pressure there is just

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beyond comprehension. For me. Tiger
Woods spent six hundred in eighty three weeks,

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not days, weeks as the number
one player in the world. That

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is amazing to me, not just
that he was there for that long,

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but how well he played as that
player. You want to make it a

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little bit more local, or not
local, but current. Okay, go

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to the young lady who's the number
one player in tennis, Egos Fiathek.

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She's twenty three and she's number one. Everybody wants a piece of her to

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try and prove that either she's not
all that and b there better than the

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best. Caitlin Clark is dealing with
it. We'll get to that a little

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bit later on. That's a one
one. It's it's a really difficult thing

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to deal with because why you're reminded
of it all the time, all the

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time, every time people are are
mentioning him. Look, guys will tell

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you I want to be one one. They will, and that's cool,

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and it's quite an honor. Then
it's time to live up to it.

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So Paul Skeens has got to do
that. Jackson Holliday has to do that.

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He was one one in twenty twenty
two. Henry Davis for Pittsburgh has

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got to do that. There are
certain guys who have handled it better than

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others. There are a number of
guys who've been really, really, really

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good with it. Adlie Rushman's been
really good with it. Has Any dance

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By Swanson was really good with it. Garrett Cole's been really good with it.

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Carlos Korea, Bryce Harper, Steven
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those guys were all really good with
it. There's a lot of guys who

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weren't very good with it. Chris
Benson wasn't good with it. Matt Anderson

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wasn't good with it, Matt Bush
wasn't good with it, Lou Kochaver wasn't

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good with it. Spencer Torkelsen has
been It's fair to say, I mean

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has been a disappointment as a one
to one so far. It doesn't mean

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that I give up on him.
Doesn't mean that I'm encouraging you to do

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that either. I'm just telling you
Detroit has had three one ones and none

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of them have lived up to that
billing. And it's a tough billing.

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I've said that I don't I'm not
looking for everyone to be Garrett Cole or

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Bryce Harper, but I don't expect
Mickey Moniac either or Mark Apple. The

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Simon's and a staple throughout the state of

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Michigan for so long in the chair
to talk about the things that are important

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to you. Tiger's a winner yesterday
eight four. But it really, to

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me, it feels like a major
loss when you have to send what we

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considered before the season. We considered
it to be a staple in your lineup,

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and probably more importantly, a staple
in the middle of your lineup,

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you know. I mean, when
you got a guy who has thirty one

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bombs and ninety four runs batter day
and last year, you think to yourself,

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what, well, hey man,
this is a this is a big

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step. Now he has arrived and
I know that's a little bit of a

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cliche, but you feel like he
got it because he went through some I

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mean, look, every baseball player
is going through slumps, right, So

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he's going through a slump, he
fights his way out of it. Sometimes

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to me it shows more of a
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character of that player, of whatever
athlete is when they're going through some difficult

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times. We can all be super
excited and super emotionally high when you're going

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well, But what about when you're
struggling, because that's what's going to happen.

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You're going to struggle more in baseball
than you are going to have success.

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Athletes, remember, I mean baseball
players, remember the two times they

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didn't get on base rather than the
two times they did. It's kind of

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the way baseball is. It's so
flip and hard man, it really is.

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But bottom line is that Spencer Trokolsen
has not performed. It felt like

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he turned to the corner, whatever
cliche you want to use, go ahead,

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turn the corner, arrived gets it. All those different things. It

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sure appeared that was the case.
Then it wasn't a great spring training and

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it has obviously not been a good
whatever it is fifty four games of his

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season this year, and that's a
big blow to this lineup. Man,

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you and I both know it's void
of power anyway. And I don't mean

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just home runs, you know I'm
talking about. I'm talking about the threat

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of driving in runs. How many
times growing up there were certain guys in

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a lineup, they dig into the
box. You're rooting for whichever team we'll

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use the Tigers here, and you
look at that guy and I'm actually,

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he's getting on base right now.
It's just the way I feel. Just

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see. It's not that he's a
Tiger killer, it's just that you look

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at him. You're like, man, how are you going to get out?

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Fill in the blank, George Brett, Paul Malder, robbing you out,

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Eddie Murray whatever, Okay, it
just seemed to do really well against

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your team. Well, those guys
all happen to be pretty damn good players.

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Most recently, who was it,
Josea Bray you, Tim Anderson?

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Sure within the division, I get
it because you see them more often understood

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that's what you were hoping for.
As Spencer Torkalsen developed, the timing wasn't

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great. COVID time off leaves Arizona
State. Then you've got that ridiculous situation

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where you've got the off site and
you got guys participating in that type of

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program. It just did not lend
itself to a very good atmosphere. Think

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about it. And this is no
excuse for him by any stretch, So

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please don't take it as that.
But there's really nobody from his draft class

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who's played a lot, been super
impactful. Heston Durstad, Max Mayer,

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a Slacei, Austin Marrton Emerson Hancock, Nick Gonzalez. Robert Hassel was a

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big name. Padres drafted him eighth
overall, hasn't played a game in the

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majors out of high school. Porklsson's
got eleven close to twelve hundred at bats.

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Somebody asked me on this show not
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it take? I said, really, a lot of people believe it's fifteen

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hundred at bats. You get a
gauge at a player at fifteen hundred at

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bats. I know you're thinking,
what fifteen hundred? What are you kidding

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me? That is a ton of
at bats? You know what that is?

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That is roughly two and a half
seasons or two in a quarter.

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It's roughly two and a half seasons. I don't think that's that much.

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I know it's hard for us to
be patient. Absolutely, I get that.

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I feel the same way. It's
funny how we talk as adults oftentimes

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about the lack of patience by kids
today. All they all want it right

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away, they all want to make
their money as soon as they graduate college.

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Guys, we're just as guilty as
established adults were just as guilty with

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a lack of patience in sports.
And I'm not suggesting you're wrong. I'm

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just telling you we are just as
guilty because we want to see that success.

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We want to see that production right
away. And I'm with you,

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man, I mean it's been disappointing
for me too. I completely understand it.

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I think baseball is a little different
than other sports. But with that

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said, when you're up there,
when you're in the lineup on a regular

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basis, forget the series against Boston. When you're in the lineup on a

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regular basis, you're getting the opportunity. There are situations that present itself that

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allow you to be successful. You're
not doing it. This does not come,

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by the way from a lack of
trying. It does not come from

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a lack of care, because that
dude is there at the ballpark as the

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first one on that first bus on
a regular basis, taking ground balls,

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getting extra hitting in. It is
just not translating right now. I am

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confident he'll be back. I still
think he can be a productive hitter.

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But I would be lying to you
if I said or I didn't say that

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my confidence has waned a little bit. I do believe it's different then a

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guy like Casey Miss twenty seven Torklo
since twenty four, You, as a

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front office member of anything, would
not give up on a twenty four year

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old. Yet you wouldn't, and
if you would, that's shortsighted. Now,

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I do believe there comes a time
where, as you and I have

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said before, you look at a
player and you say, you know what,

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I think we got a pretty good
idea of who he is. Now,

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when that comes it is up to
you. I don't know. I

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have not reached that yet, but
I'm getting close. I am. I'm

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getting pretty darn close to it,
and it's tough to turn around. But

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there how many times have you looked
at a player and you said, to

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yourself, I'm not sure how good
he's going to be, and then boom

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he takes off. There are certain
sports, in certain positions where it's a

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little bit more obvious, right.
I think people did that with Taylor Decker

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and they were wrong. I know
they did it with Matthew Stafford and they

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were wrong. Guys develop at different
levels in different positions at different times.

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Spencer Torkelsen has had a lot of
opportunity that you cannot deny. There's been

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plenty of opportunities for him to make
the impression and hold that impression for you.

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You cannot deny that either. And
outside of one year last year,

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and it was a pretty steady year, not from an average standpoint, but

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from a production standpoint. You know, one hundred and forty one hits has

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not thirty one bombs is really good, ninety four runs driven in is really

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good. Those are tough numbers to
stay with and continue to pepe providing.

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But as a one to one,
as an everyday player, as a middle

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of the lineup guy, that's the
expectation. And how many times do you

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hear athletes say no one's harder on
my, No one's harder on me.

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Than myself. This is what I
expect. They all set goals, you

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guys, they may not share them
with us, but they all set goals

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team and personal. And you know
damn well that his personal goal was not

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to have at the at the quarter
pole, now past the quarter pole,

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four homers, batting two A one, eighteen runs driven in and being sent

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down. It's a problem, you
know. I mean that there's no way

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neither you nor I would have thought
that when Seal Perez would have almost as

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many RBIs as Spencer Torkulssen, and
yet that's the case. There's no way

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that you and I would have thought
at some point during this season, not

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even at some point at this point
during the season, that you would look

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at Spencer Torkelsen and you would say, Okay, Matt Fierling has more homers

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than you do. What, Yeah, Mark Canna has more homers than you.

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I never would have thought that when
Seal Perez has one fewer homer than

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you do in fourteen fewer games.
Would not have thought that either. But

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that's the situation, and that's why
he's going down. Now. We're going

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to monitor this, you and I. It is I mean, you and

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I are going to go, Okay, let's see how he's doing. I'm

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not going to focus too much on
average. I'm going to focus on well.

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I'm going to try and focus.
I'm going to try and gather something

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that I think the coaching staff in
the front off is probably looking at,

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and that is that hard hit rate
that we were talking about. And now

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you don't want to go down there
and walk all the time. However,

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you do have to. You do
have to get on base, all right,

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and that was an issue too.
So his walk rates at seven percent,

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his strikeout rates at twenty four and
a half percent. That needs to

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drastically change. I don't know if
you read where aj Hinch said somebody had

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asked him about it prior to the
game. Before Sunday's game, Hint suggested

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charcosm be demoted. Okay, could
be demoted. I'm not sorry. I'm

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sorry. He didn't suggest that he
will be or should be, but could

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be all right because of his performance. When somebody asked him that a little

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bit to you know, probe a
little deeper, he said. Before the

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game, he said, I knew
I was going to get asked questions when

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he sits down two out of three
days. We haven't talked a ton about

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things like that. This morning.
You notice there's a little little something at

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the end there this morning. That's
because they already talked about it and already

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decided it. They knew damn well
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saying this morning is that part of
the quote that you can get away with

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saying, well, we didn't talk
about this mone We talked about it yesterday,

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we talked about it last night,
we talked about it earlier in the

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series, and we'd already made up
our minds. We were already deciding that

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it wasn't gonna happen at this level. He's got to go down. Meyer

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hotline is eight sixty six eight three, eight forty eight forty three. I

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know this is an emotional topic for
us because in order for this team to

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turn things around and be more consistent
and more palatable to watch, this guy's

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really important. I know Riley Green's
important. I know Trek Skoubl's vital.

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I know there are certain other players
too. But remember, like it or

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not, we compare everything to and
I think most fan bases do compare everything

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to championship teams, and we saw
a core of players in Detrid's last championship

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team like it or not, tired
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saw a corps stay together, fight
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a title. You really thought that
there were certain players like it or not?

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Man, I mean, you don't
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a time a few years ago you
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Manning, Schooble, Torklsen Green.
Then you add a guy like Cole Keith,

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and eventually I'm Max Clark and a
Jayce Young. And you notice most

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of those guys, except for Schooble, are all first round picks. Because

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you go back to what I've said
time and time again about sports, you

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cannot miss, cannot miss on your
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a winner. If not, it
sets you back. I suppose there are

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times where you could say, well, I missed on the first round,

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but damn I hit that second round, second round pick out of the park.

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Okay, few and far between,
but okay, let's say I grant

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that too. You can't keep missing
on first rounders and expect to recoup on

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second rounders. It's not the case
they have missed on a couple of key

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first round picks as of right now, that's the precursor. As of right

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now, they have missed on a
couple of first round picks. And it's

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really important and it's going to set
them back. And you notice that it

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to a certain extent. Has Myer
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good example. Man. They're not
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first round picks. Who's leading the
charge for them? Gunnar Henderson. I

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think it was the second round pick. But who's leading the people? They

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just they drool over over Adlie Rushman
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be the backbone of your franchise.
They have to set the standard. That's

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what was expected of them. That's
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it, but you know that going
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or when you're a first round pick
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Classic dot Com. Second hour of
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Great State of Michigan. First hour
weeks talk to exclusively about Spencer Torkolsen and

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the fact that he is headed to
Toledo. The promote lost in this,

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perhaps unfairly so, is the promotion
of Justin Henry molloy from Triple A.

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Now you remember he was acquired into
trade from Atlanta in December of twenty twenty

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two, and he is a very
talented hitter. From what we were able

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to gather, he's just twenty four
same as Torculsen. I don't think his

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numbers pop at you in Toledo,
two fifty three six bombs. But look

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at the walk rate. This is
a big deal. Okay, on base

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percentage is really important. This is
a big deal to the front office,

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in any front office. It's not
just Scott Harris, it's any front office.

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His walk rate is twenty percent,
his strikeout rates to twenty seven percent.

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Again, marry that with Torkulsen's numbers. What did I say just before

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the break Torkulsen a walk rate of
seven percent and a strikeout rate of twenty

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four and a half percent. That's
a big difference. Okay, Now one's

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minor league ball and one's major league
ball. You know, major leaguers.

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Look, this is gonna be adjustment
for him too, major league ball is

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I mean, those of those guys
are around the plate more and they get

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more of the benefit of the doubt. Molloy used to be a third baseman.

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The Tigers didn't feel like that was
his strength. They felt like they're

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going to push him to the outfield. This is a deeper concern for me,

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but it's not one that you have
to worry about right now. You

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know, they don't They don't have
any really good defensive players like Jace Young's

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a hitter, Cole Keith's a hitter, Justin Henryanloy is a hitter, Parker

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Metal is a good defensive player.
But overall their young guys are viewed primarily

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as what we hope will be offensive
players. Remember, Torkolsen was drafted as

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a third baseman. That was the
announcement at the draft. Drafted as a

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third baseman, even though he was
a first baseman at Arizona State. He

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was recruited as a third baseman.
There, Gage Workman was their third baseman.

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His ability moved Torkosen from third to
first. Either way, the corner

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infield spot is where you expect power. That's the way it's it's kind of

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always been. So you got guys
like this who are coming up, and

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it's great. Gives him an opportunity. He's a really nice kid too,

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by the way. He's a tough
kid. Parents did a wonderful job with

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him. But he is going to
produce offensively for you, not defensively.

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He is viewed as a below average
defensive player. So think about what you

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have with this team right now.
When sil Perez is an outfielder, not

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by trade, they moved him there
because he wasn't good enough defensively at shorter

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second. They move Riley Green from
center to left. Mark Canna is a

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guy who can play either corner outfield, perhaps either corner infield, and he'll

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probably get a lot more first base
opportunities. Matt Erling is a guy who

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played a little bit of center,
a little bit of right, a little

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bit of third base outside of the
catcher spot, and not many catchers are

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doubling up anyplace else other than first
base. You know, you've got Salvador

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Perez playing catcher and first but you
know he made his way in the majors

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as a gold glove catcher. They're
only moving to first base as he gets

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older. Rogers and Kelly aren't playing
any other positions. So outside of catcher,

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short and second, Bias doesn't playing
any place other than shortstop. Keith

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is not going to play any place
other than second base. Everybody else is

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moving around. Yes, Green's and
left. He can play a little bit

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of center. That's a positive.
I don't view this is where my philosophy

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is completely different than a lot of
the front off people and and the manager,

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and that is you know when they're
they love the ability to move guys

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around. I want everyday guys,
I want I want a third basement.

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I'm penciling in every single day,
and they don't have that. So you

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get justin Henry Maloy. Now you've
got Mad Feeling, You've got Riley Green,

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you've got one Silp Perez, you've
got Mark canna All patrolling the outfield.

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At times. Feeling can play a
little bit of third or Sella plays

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a little bit of third or Sella
and Canna are going to play some first

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base, right, That's a to
me. The word Hodgepodge has slash is

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is maybe a little too strong,
but it feels like that to me.

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That's what that's the sense that I
get. I could be wrong there,

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I hope I am, but I
personally not a huge fan of that,

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never have been, no matter what
the role may be. Want the guy

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on a regular basis, and I
think that's where the best teams are.

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Don't give me that. Adlie Rushman
sometimes is the DH yeah, I know,

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but most of his at bats,
most of his games are as a

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catcher. I mean, that's what
the best teams are doing. Gonnard Henderson

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is second base every day, Rushman
is catcher every day, Mount Castle's first

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base every day, Santander's right field
every day, Hayes's left field every day,

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Mullins' center field every day. That's
what you're getting. Westburg sometimes second

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base, sometimes third base. That's
Baltimore and they lost yesterday four to three.

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But that team is I mean,
that team's really good. Good.

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If there's any team you'd like to
be like, it's the Baltimore Orioles and

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who would have thought that two years
ago. What they're young guys are developing,

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and they're really good, and they
play every day, and they've got

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a position. Even certain teams like
like Tampa. Take Tampa for example,

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that used to people used to pride
themselves about using Tampa as a model of

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guys who can play all over.
Jose Series every day, center field man

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Yandy Diaz is for first base every
day. Randy or Rosa Rainez first base

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or left field every day. Esak
Paratus is third base every day. Those

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are the guys you're getting. Detroit's
got two everyday players and one guy,

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by the way, is widely despised. And if it weren't for the contract,

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we may not even be on this
team. So let's let's understand what

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we're dealing with here. I'm happy
for Justin Henry Malloy. I'm excited to

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watch him play. I'm excited to
see him take swings. I would love

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to know why this organization does not
develop good everyday players. Who's the last

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everyday player who became an All Star? Is it Curtis and Developed Curtis Granderson,

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Alex Savilla, Alex Savilla I believe
is the answer, So it's a

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villa, it's Granderson position player wise, how about how about infielder? How

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far do you have to go back? Travis Frieman, It's not a good

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to Meyer Hotline eight sixty six eight
three eight forty eight forty three. We

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welcome your thoughts. Spoken a lot
about Spencer Torkolsen this morning. Tigers an

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eight four winner over the Red Sox. Yesterday Torkusen sent down Justin Henry mLOY

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up. Maloy has been a designated
hitter a few times as of late,

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down in Toledo and doing that on
purpose, so you get that mindset,

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that routine, if you will.
Most of his games have been played in

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left field, no longer a third
baseman, because they just didn't feel like

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he was good enough there. That
speaks to a different problem for this team

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right now. But the Tigers are
in Texas tonight to start a three game

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series there Scott Dixon wins the Detroit
Grand Prix. It's his fifty eighth career

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win. Only AJ Foyd has more, and it's his thirty third road course

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victory, which is most all time, and it's also his fourth career win

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in Detroit. Did you get a
chance to go down by chance? Because

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people I spoke to who were down
there said it was fantastic. It's another

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event. I don't know how it
looks on TV in Rise. I think

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it looks pretty damn good. I
think the broadcast was very good. I

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think it's I think it's a prideful
moment for the entire state, just like

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the event in Benton Harbor and the
Senior PGA event. Just like in a

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couple of weeks you're going to see
the Mayor Classic take place. All these

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events, you know, whether you
think they're big or not, I don't

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care. I think it's I think
it's a great way to showcase the state.

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I think it's awesome how many people
go out and support it. And

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that course is one of the bumpiest, one of the most challenging, one

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of the tightest courses on the Indy
car circuit. Don't ask me to compare

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it to Monaco or Long Beach or
places like that. I just know Detroit

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does a good job and I think
they should be proud of it. And

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I hope you were too. Last
night, Edmonton beats Dallas to win the

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Western Conference. I'll guarantee you somebody
in America right now is saying, oh

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my gosh, this is a nightmare
for the NHL. Don't tell me they

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didn't want New York in Dallas.
You get Florida and Edmonton. Hey,

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listen, you can highlight superstars.
I know it helps with the TV ratings

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and all that other stuff. I
don't know how many people are going to

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watch, if they're not hockey fans
already. I don't know. I'm watching

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because I love the sport. I
love watching Edmonton play, and I really

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like watching Florida play. I think
it's an awesome matchup. The Panthers are

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openings as the favorites. But here's
the thing, and this was set afterwards.

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Peter de Boor of Dallas, the
head coach of Dallas, said this

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after the game yesterday. He said, we probably hit that was probably our

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best game, but they lost two
one Edmonton had did you see the final

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stat line on this Edmonton had ten
shots on net and yet they won two

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to one. Connor McDavid zach Kyman. Those are the goal scorers for Edmonton

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the power play, both of them
power play goals. That's that was the

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difference. And of course the other
difference is in net. And when you

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get a goalie playing and nothing against
Jake Ottinger, nothing against him. He

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was really good for Dallas all season
long. He was good for Dallas in

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the series. It just happened to
be and his team generated plenty of opportunities.

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It just happened to be that for
Edmonton, Stuart Skinner was better.

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And that's a good story, by
the way, it's a really good story.

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He was benched earlier in the playoffs. He has bounced back and he

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has been really important. He made
thirty four saves last night. Dallas outshot

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Edmonton thirty five to ten, and
yet it's the Oilers that win and advance.

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So the Oilers are into the Stanley
Cup Finals. They're going to be

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trying. They're going to try and
become the first Canadian based team to win

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the Stanley Cup since the Montreal Canadians
in nineteen ninety three. I don't know

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if this was an improbable run or
not for them, but I do know

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that it's going to be a It
should be a fun series. Although Florida

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beat them rather handily five to one, I think in five to three during

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the regular season, who cares.
I mean, that's that's so overrated.

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That's just a way for television and
radio to padd some discussion about the series

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in general. What will be somewhat
interesting. I saw this on social media

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last night. The distance of two
thousand, five and forty miles between Edmonton

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and where Florida plays Sunrise, Florida
is the longest distance between Stanley Cup Final

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opponents and NHL history. There's your
little tidbit of information that nobody cares about.

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What is really cool is that McDavid
is into the finals for the first

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time in his career. Right speaking
of one ones, big deep breath,

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he got them there. Now,
Florida will be the favorite, and rightfully

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so. I do believe they're the
more complete team. I think they're tougher

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to play against, but they will. They will have to do everything they

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possibly can to stay out of the
box because Edmonton's power play is so damn

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lethal. And Edmonton is so fast. I will say this. You watched

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the games earlier this year Edmonton and
Florida when they played one another. Florida

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was equally as fast in those two
games. And maybe it's Edmonton forcing you,

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you know, that kind of up
tempo type of stuff. But it

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was really good. Let me get
to some texts. The text line is

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sports Radio to twenty one thousand,
Ben, what do we have? Yeah,

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we have one back about Torkulsen.
It says Madison Bumgarner, Mike Trout,

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Max Schurzer, and Mickey Mantle are
a few players who were sent down

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to the miners to figure things out
after being called up. Just trying to

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stay positive for this kid seems like
a good kid. Yeah, that's a

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good one. Keeping it in perspective. I love it. You have to.

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It's it's gonna happen to a lot
of different players, and it doesn't

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mean that they're not very good,
Okay, it doesn't. It means you've

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got to make an adjustment. It
is really hard to make the adjustment during

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a Major League baseball season. That's
why they oftentimes send you down to the

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miners. That's a good text,
it really is. I mean, it's

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look alex Alec Manoa not alex Alec
Manoa was a starter in the All Star

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Game. Remember they miked him up. You remember watching that bend. It

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was really cool stuff and he throws
strikes after strike after strike. He was

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fun loving that he gets sent down
not that year, but something happened and

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he hasn't recovered. Let's hope that's
not the case for Spencer Trokos. We'll

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Meyer LPGA Classics dot Com thirty five
after the hour welcome back. Actually some

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bros. Bud, if you're Friday
six until nine, I'm glad you're with

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us. Appreciated very much. Phone
number on the Meyer Hotline eighty sixty six

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eight three eight forty eight forty three. The text line sports rated to twenty

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01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:38.719
one thousand good text just before the
break mentioning some players who were sent down

618
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in their careers were not comparing Spencer
procleson to certain players, certain all stars,

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if you will, Guys who helped
lead a team to a a league

620
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:58.800
championship. John Rocker, for example, was like that, I think Harmon

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01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:02.440
Killebrew actually was sent down at one
point. I'm not comparing Spencer Porcosen to

622
01:03:02.519 --> 01:03:07.960
those guys. All I'm saying is
that he's not the first. He will

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not be the last big name player
to be sent down. And I don't

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even know how big of a name
he is outside of Detroit, may not

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be very big at all. There
may be a lot of people who are

626
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just questioning a little bit and saying, who is that guy? You know?

627
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I mean, we live it because
it's somebody we feel is really important

628
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to this organization. But there might
be a lot of people around baseball who

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don't feel like that's a big name. And if that's the case, then

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that tells you about the disappointing start
to his major league career overall. Back

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to the tech line and you can
text as sports radio to twenty one thousand,

632
01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:00.719
Ben what else is up? He
says. Alex Savila was a stud

633
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I remembered down the stretch he caught
every game in that human heat near were

634
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around twenty eleven and rake the ball
while handling a Hall of Fame pitching staff.

635
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:23.559
Yeah, I thought Alex Savilla was
there was a period of time.

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First of all, I think he's
a really good analyst by the way Radio,

637
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:30.400
n TV, But there was a
period of time. Look just one

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all start. No one's saying he's
a Hall of Famer or a Tiger's Hall

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of Famer or anything like that.
But twenty eleven he had an excellent season.

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You bet two ninety five, you
slug over five hundred, you drive

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in eighty two, you hit nineteen
bombs, you win a Silver Slugger.

642
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That's pretty damn good. I would
remind you this, and I need to

643
01:04:55.280 --> 01:05:01.400
remind myself this. Sometimes. He
was drafted his third basement of Alabama and

644
01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:08.559
then made to a catcher. Thirteen
years in the big leagues. Pretty damn

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good. And yeah, he handled
a lot of pitchers with type A.

646
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Personally. Most athletes are type A, but especially when you have when you

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have guys like Verlander and Schurzer and
Fister and guys who are they want things

648
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:35.119
done a certain way that can make
the job hard sometimes and he was excellent

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about that. So that's a good
text too. I appreciate the texts at

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twenty one thousand, Appreciate anything that
might be on your mind. In the

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Meyer hotline eight six six eight three
eight forty eight forty three. That's eight

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six six eight three eight forty eight
forty three. We mentioned Scott Dixon,

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we mentioned the NHL. The other
story in sports yesterday, there's a couple

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of other ones, and then in
the eight o'clock hour, we're going to

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get to a lot of NFL.
But I don't know how much you watched

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the RBC Canadian Open. I know
it's not a major, so it probably

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doesn't garner a lot of attention.
But there are you know, there are

658
01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:24.519
other events in golf that are really
big too. I'm not saying this is

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huge, but it's been around for
one hundred and twenty years. They played

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it at Hamilton, Ontario, seventh
time it's been played there at the Hamilton

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Golf and Country Club. And the
winner is the guy by the name of

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Robert McIntyre. That's not even the
story. The story is ct Pan and

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01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:51.039
you might be going, what what
are you talking about? Ct Pan had

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a really nice eagle from one hundred
and twenty one yards out yesterday. That's

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not the story. His caddy on
the bag was Mike fluff Cowen. That's

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01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:08.440
not the story. The story is
that ct Pan went through not one,

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not two, not three, but
four caddies in his final round. I

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don't know if he saw this.
But his original caddie, Mike fluff Cowen,

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01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:27.719
who was the caddy for Tiger Woods
for so long. He was on

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the bag for the entire tournament,
but he fell on the third hole on

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Sunday and couldn't continue. So what
does Pan do. It's not like you're

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gonna carry your own bag, right, what's he gonna do? He selects

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a fan out of the crowd.
I don't know how you do this.

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The fan gets all excited. He's
like, hey man, I'm I'm your

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guys an it's an on the course
interview. I suppose right away. So

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01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:05.679
he gets this guy out of the
crowd and he says he's ready for the

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01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:15.439
job. He caddies on the fourth
hole ct Pan bogies that hole. But

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that's it's not like he got rid
of him off the bag because of that.

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It's not like he's asking this guy
yardage or he's all he's asking him

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carry my bag, hand me the
club, I want clean it. Please

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make sure you have a towel to
wipe the golf ball off once it lands

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on the green, and hold the
flag. He's not asking him to read

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the green. He's not asking him
what club he should hit. He's not

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asking him for yardage. Well,
I suppose you could shoot it, but

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you probably wouldn't trust a guy coming
out of the gallery even to shoot the

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flag at how far it is.
I got one sixty three for me.

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You know, I'm I'm using a
seven iron here. How about you?

688
01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:08.319
CT Yeah, thanks, I'm going
to use I'm going to use a heavy

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wedge, but I appreciate it.
Stand over there for me. Don't move,

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01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:15.880
I'm about to hit. I don't
know, I don't know how the

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conversation goes anyway. The fan caddies
for the fourth hole. Mike Campbell,

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who was a worker from the caddy
services at the course, steps in.

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He finishes out the front nine.
After the ninth hole, a guy by

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the name of Al Riddell, who
was a caddy for an earlier for a

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player who had missed the cut,
took over on the back nine. Apparently

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01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:54.359
he was watching this whole thing unfold
while he was at home and knowing that

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his player wasn't playing the weekend,
he jumped through his car, raised over

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01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:05.960
the course and said, I'll help
him out now. I don't know how

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01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:12.760
much he gets paid. I don't
know what their relationship was or anything like

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that. But that's a hell of
a story. That's a hell of a

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01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:27.359
run. Man. Four caddies in
one round. The ct PAN, by

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the way, finished one under for
the day, three under for the tournament.

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So Robert McIntyre to a certain extent, at least in my eyes,

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to a certain extent, was overplayed
by that story right there. It's really

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good. This is another story that's
a little little frustrating to me. I

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don't know how you take this,
but I'm gonna lay it out there.

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I'm gonna ask you what you think. All right. Every league has rules

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that it's athletes are expected to follow, and if you don't follow them,

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01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:13.520
oftentimes there's a fine. Now,
a lot of these guys make so much

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money. Finding them is just a
drop in the bucket. You can find

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01:11:18.359 --> 01:11:23.560
a thousand bucks if you're a Major
League Baseball player. Who cares. They

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01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:30.520
lose that on the plane flying from
New York to Atlanta in their card games

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01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:34.319
in the back. So it really
doesn't matter. The WNBA is a little

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01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:42.000
different, slightly different. They don't
make that kind of money, and I'm

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01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:48.199
not suggesting they should. But over
the weekend, not that I expected you

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01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:51.600
to follow this, and I'm not
gonna lie. It's not like I sat

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01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:56.479
there and glued to the television and
doing all that stuff. But Chicago played

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Indiana. The storyline there was that
there were three players who are top five

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picks, Caitlyn Clark who played at
Iowa, Angel Reese who played at LSU,

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and Kimia Cardoso who played at South
Carolina. The latter two won national

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titles. The first, Kaitlyn Clark, was a national runner up in both

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those games. But during one of
the games, or during that game Chicago

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Indiana, Caitlyn Clark was pushed shoved
to the ground a foul, hard foul,

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not while she had the basketball,
but while she was waiting for an

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01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:44.960
inbound pass, not by either one
of those players. Either she was fouled

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01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:50.239
by another player who's I'm sorry,
whose name escapes me right now or Kennedy

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01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:57.039
Carter is her name Anyway, after
the game, they're supposed to be made

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01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:02.840
available to the media the media policy
that says postgame media availability no later than

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ten minutes following the game. Each
head coach in two players, the leading

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01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:12.920
scorer and a key contributor based on
what the team feels have to be made

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available in a separate press conference room
for people on the media, and in

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01:13:17.159 --> 01:13:24.359
case those want to join via zoom. All the other players at the conclusion

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of the press conference may be requested
to join the media as well, so

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they're supposed to remain in the building, whether requested or not, until all

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the media obligations are met. That's
just their policy. Whether you agree with

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it or not doesn't matter. Somebody
did ask for Carter, she would not

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ask answer questions about the incident in
the third quarter where she shoved Clark,

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put a shoulder into her and picked
up a flagrant one. Well, Angel

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Reese was not at the podium she
was requested, she was not available,

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so she gets fined one thousand dollars. I guess my question would be,

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at what point are these players in
this league going to understand that they are

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not the NBA. They're getting coverage. They should be very grateful they're getting

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as much coverage as they do.
And I'm not going to claim because I

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01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:36.159
don't know, I'm not going to
claim that it's all because of Caitlin Clark.

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01:14:36.840 --> 01:14:40.920
That's not fair to some of the
past great players who've played in this

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league. Whether it be Sue Byrd, Tina Thompson, Cheryl Swoops, Diana

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01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:50.520
Tarassi, whomever. All right,
but if you're going to start having that

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attitude where you don't feel like you've
got to meet what the league has suggested

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or demanded, if you're not going
to start answering questions when the media asks

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you questions, and you're going to
start pulling the NFL stuff, don't be

751
01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:15.760
upset when the pushback becomes super real. And if you're going to start biting

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01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:21.199
the hand that feeds you. So
for example, that Carter or Angel Reese

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01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:27.800
after the game starts sending out on
social media, how good is Caitlin Clark?

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01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:31.079
What does she do besides hit threes
and all that other stuff you're getting

755
01:15:31.199 --> 01:15:35.279
charter flights? Now think about this
for a second. How much is it

756
01:15:35.319 --> 01:15:41.720
to attend a WNBA game? How
much money are teams truly making? There

757
01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:45.279
are certain games that they are And
the New York Liberty had a big crowd

758
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:50.000
earlier this year and made some money
a lot of money. But you better

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01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:59.319
be careful, don't overplay your hand
because the public interest isn't so great that

760
01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:03.760
you can't go away you your team
or your league where everyone would be crying

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01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:13.800
for it all over again. You're
starting to expand a little bit. You're

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01:16:13.840 --> 01:16:18.840
getting you've got the national TV rights, you're getting right ups, you're getting

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01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:24.880
draft previews, you're getting analysis on
a regular basis of things. You're getting

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01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:27.199
big names to do this, that
and the other thing. And now you're

765
01:16:27.239 --> 01:16:33.680
going to start pulling this type of
attitude. You better be careful. Players

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01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:40.399
better recognize it. Now. There
is a I want not a misconception,

767
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:45.439
but there is a belief that the
reason they're getting charter flights and the reason

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a lot of things are happening well
for the WNBA is because of the infusion

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of Caitlin Clark and one specific player
there has been You've got to be careful

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01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:58.800
with that. This is not responsible
by the media. That is not proven

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01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:03.319
yet. It is timing, yes, and it is is it, you

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01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:08.159
know, a coincidence? Probably not. She's part of the reason, but

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01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:13.800
she's not the only reason. Because
what it does is it creates a vitriol,

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01:17:14.119 --> 01:17:20.760
a jealousy just the way it is. It's true and players are starting

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01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:27.279
to do that toward her. I
don't agree with a lot of the people

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01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:32.640
who are saying she is she is
treated differently because she's white and straight,

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01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:42.319
which is pretty sad too. Even
if that were the case, that somebody

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01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:46.720
who is straight in that league is
viewed as so different that you've got to

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01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:53.439
push back on her, that's pretty
scary stuff. And there's a very little

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01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:57.439
pushback on the fact that other people
have come out and said she is privileged

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01:17:57.479 --> 01:18:03.439
because she's white. That's bull crap, lop bull crap. She comes in

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01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:09.960
with extreme fanfare because of what she
did at the collegiate level, and what

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01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:14.640
she did at the collegiate level is
greater than anybody has ever done at the

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01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:24.960
collegiate level. From an individual standpoint, our phone number on the Meyer hotline

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01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:29.239
eight six six eight three forty eight
forty three. I was just stunned to

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01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:33.479
read the so early in her career, what are they ten games in,

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01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:40.000
eight to ten games in and already
and you can tell that visiting players have

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01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:46.279
had enough think about the stuff that
she's had to deal with on a regular

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01:18:46.319 --> 01:18:55.600
basis at the collegiate level. It
is a hard balance to be the focus

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01:18:56.079 --> 01:19:01.039
of so much attention and still be
humble and be willing to try and steer

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01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:06.199
a lot of that public attention toward
others on your team, while those on

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01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:10.960
the team no da you know,
damn well, there's a little resentment there.

793
01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:17.279
They want a piece of that public
eye. They want to be written

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01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:21.760
up every once in a while for
what they felt like they contributed to a

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01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:29.800
team's effort. And then the media, what do we do. We're constantly

796
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:36.079
asking about her instead of the person
we're actually interviewing. It's bound to get

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01:19:36.079 --> 01:19:43.079
old. It's bound to get old
for a lot of people. Our phone

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01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:45.359
number again on the Meyer hotline eight
six six eight three, eight forty eight

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01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:49.079
forty three. You could text the
program sports Radio to twenty one thousand.

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01:19:49.800 --> 01:19:56.079
A lot of good stuff when it
comes to the National Football League. A

801
01:19:56.159 --> 01:20:00.840
couple of articles out there, the
favorite in the conference, the favorite to

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01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:09.880
reach the title game, and one
specific player has come out publicly and suggested

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01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:15.439
his top five quarterbacks. Who are
they? We'll get to all that and

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01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:23.039
more coming up here on X's and
Bros. On a Glorious Monday Morning on

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Don't throw out salaries or other things. Get some facts and come back and

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CEV. You can't handle the true
now told our players you needy bit more

821
01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:54.199
like a doll. We don't need
a bunch of cats in here looking in

822
01:21:54.199 --> 01:21:57.600
the mirror. I look good.
I got my extra bands on, I

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01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:00.640
got my other shoes. Be a
doll. We don't need no meals.

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01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:05.920
We don't need no cats. We
need more dolls. Time. Oh you're

825
01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:10.720
not At the time, we weren't
good. There's no sense asking me things

826
01:22:10.760 --> 01:22:13.039
about the game. I'm telling you. We laid an egg. So I'm

827
01:22:13.039 --> 01:22:16.239
not going to break it down for
you. He sucks. They sucked when

828
01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:18.960
he laid an egg. That's all
I have to say. Guys, I'm

829
01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:21.239
sorry. I'm not going to break
it down for you. And nothing went

830
01:22:21.319 --> 01:22:25.119
well for us. It's on us. We have to figure it out.

831
01:22:25.159 --> 01:22:31.520
And we went Yo, Dad,
trying to figure it out on a Monday

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with you. Final hour of Exus
and Bros. Welcome Mayer Hotlines open for

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eight six, six, eight three, eight forty eight forty three. The

834
01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:43.399
text line Sports Radio to twenty one
thousand. I'll be honest with the Ben.

835
01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:46.600
I really thought people would be tearing
up the phone lines. Yeah,

836
01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:51.159
me too, bensertoricals. Yeah,
I'm and we kept it alive for the

837
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:58.399
entire first hour. I thought there
was there would be more emotion from Tigers

838
01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:00.680
fans. Maybe there's not as many
baseball fans out there as we thought.

839
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:08.560
That's a little surprising. I want
to get to some football information here,

840
01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:17.800
but before I do, Jim Bowden
writes for The Athletic he ranked just this

841
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morning it was released, and that's
the reason I bring it up. I

842
01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:26.239
teased football going into the break and
for good reason, and then this was

843
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:32.279
just sent out. Jim Boden ranked
the teams that will either make a move

844
01:23:35.039 --> 01:23:43.319
at the trade deadline to add or
not. There are thirty teams in Major

845
01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:49.399
League Baseball, thirty. Jim Bowden
ranks the Yankees, for example, the

846
01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:58.079
number one team to add to their
roster. You know, you go into

847
01:23:58.119 --> 01:24:02.119
these right around trade deadline stuff.
Are you a quote buyer or seller?

848
01:24:03.680 --> 01:24:08.239
Now, keep in mind there's fifty
seven days. It's a long time,

849
01:24:08.840 --> 01:24:13.479
but I can go by quick.
Fifty seven days until the trade deadline.

850
01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:19.640
He ranks the teams he feels,
based on the first couple of months of

851
01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:27.319
the season, will be a buyer. So he breaks it down into tears.

852
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:35.439
Buyers are the Yankees and the Phillies. The Orioles would be one of

853
01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:40.920
those. The Dodgers would be one
of those teams. No surprise there he

854
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:46.239
ranks Cleveland is fifth. So he
breaks it down to various levels. Thirty

855
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:53.079
teams in Major League Baseball. Where
do you think the Tigers rank based on

856
01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:58.640
this guy he used to be a
GM does good but sometime hoarlier than thou

857
01:24:58.760 --> 01:25:03.199
work on Major league based radio.
Where do you think he ranks the Tigers

858
01:25:03.359 --> 01:25:10.079
in terms of buying or selling?
In terms of being a buyer, they

859
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:15.960
are out of the thirty teams.
Where do you think he ranks them in

860
01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:21.119
terms of needing to be a buyer? He ranks them so it's either a

861
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:28.199
buyer seller or a team in between. You're kind of stuck, and the

862
01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:32.840
Tigers are kind of stuck. Based
off what Jim Bowden thinks the teams in

863
01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:42.079
between, the Tigers at eighteen,
Tampa at nineteen, Saint Louis at twenty,

864
01:25:43.359 --> 01:25:47.479
Washington twenty one, this Pittsburgh at
twenty two, This is not a

865
01:25:47.560 --> 01:25:56.439
group that makes you jump up and
down and feel like, yes, we're

866
01:25:56.600 --> 01:26:00.640
close. Now. They're not a
seller. He does have them as a

867
01:26:00.680 --> 01:26:06.880
seller right now. That's for the
Mets and the A's and the Rockies,

868
01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:15.760
the Angels and the Marlins and the
White Sox. But Here's what he writes

869
01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:19.760
regarding the Tigers at eighteen in being
the first team, I guess there's two

870
01:26:19.760 --> 01:26:29.920
ways to look at it. They're
the first team that is under his terminology,

871
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:33.119
a team in between, or they're
the last team who might be a

872
01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:36.840
buyer. Here's what he writes.
Tiger's off to a slow start, ranking

873
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:44.199
seventeenth and runs scored and twelfth in
teamyra very deceiving. Riley Green has nine

874
01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:47.279
homers, He's now got ten Spencer
Torkols and only four Bett and two to

875
01:26:47.399 --> 01:26:53.880
one and is reportedly being option to
Triple A, which is true. Javier

876
01:26:53.880 --> 01:27:00.439
Bias looks done his words. Rookie
Colt Keith has been a huge disappointment again

877
01:27:00.560 --> 01:27:03.840
his words, and probably should be
optioned to the Miners. Therein lies a

878
01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:08.479
different issue, so many issues with
the Tigers. That's an issue too.

879
01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:12.359
He can't He's not even be an
option to the Miners. Who gonna used

880
01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:15.640
to take his place? He continues. Trek Scoubel has been the one real

881
01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:18.520
bright spot, going seven to one
with a two point zero one ERA.

882
01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:23.520
Among the top side Young Award candidates, Jack Flaherty, Casey Meis Reese Olsen

883
01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:28.119
have combined to win just four games
despite pitching much better than that, especially

884
01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:33.439
Olsen and Flaherty, only Olsen and
Flerty. I think here's what might make

885
01:27:33.479 --> 01:27:40.159
you shake your head a little bit
while you're driving early trade deadline needs.

886
01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:51.159
Tigers need to improve their lineup.
Thanks, Jim, appreciate that couldn't have

887
01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:59.159
figured that one out by herself.
When you're not scoring runs and you don't

888
01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:05.720
have power. Thanks, very very
important. Tigers need to improve their lineup,

889
01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:11.159
starting rotation and bullpen depth if they
want to remain in the hunt for

890
01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:15.039
a playoff spot. First of all, Jim and I know when this is

891
01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:17.239
written, but they're ten games back. They're not in a playoff hunt,

892
01:28:18.720 --> 01:28:26.520
all right, They're ten games back
in the division. This escalated quickly.

893
01:28:27.920 --> 01:28:30.600
They're not in a playoff hunt.
Let's get that. Let's make that very

894
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:35.520
clear, can we please. I
want you to think about this for a

895
01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:40.439
second, Jim, before you write
this, instead of just being very generic.

896
01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:45.520
All right, the Tigers are ten
games back in the division and there

897
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:49.560
are four games back in the final
wildcard spot, which to you may think,

898
01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:55.479
oh, that's not that big of
a deal. Well that is until

899
01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:58.600
you see the teams that are in
front of them and playing much better baseball

900
01:29:00.199 --> 01:29:02.680
teams. I would say three teams
behind them that I think are better in

901
01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:09.960
general, Tampa, Toronto and Houston. And that is not based on reputation,

902
01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:15.359
that is based off what I believe. But to say that they need

903
01:29:15.399 --> 01:29:19.760
to improve their lineup is perhaps the
most understated thing that you could write in

904
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:29.600
an article. But what surprises me
most is he's telling us based on his

905
01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:34.760
baseball acumen, and he's a pretty
smart guy. He's telling us there's not

906
01:29:35.079 --> 01:29:40.479
one redeeming quality about this team.
If you have to improve your lineup,

907
01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:45.239
improve your starting rotation, and improve
your bullpen depth, what else is there?

908
01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:53.079
And you and I both know when
we have this conversation, we both

909
01:29:53.159 --> 01:30:01.640
know what they're not good defensively.
So in conclusion, based on what Jim

910
01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:05.560
Bowden has said, they need help
in the lineup, you and I would

911
01:30:05.560 --> 01:30:12.319
both agree with that they need help
with their starting rotation. I actually kind

912
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:16.319
of like their starting rotation three of
their pitchers. If Casey Mice is my

913
01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:25.239
fourth, it's not that bad because
I like what schoobl and Flaherty and Olson

914
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:28.600
have done a lot. If you
want a fifth start, I make Mies

915
01:30:28.640 --> 01:30:30.960
your fifth start if you need a
fourth starter or okay, but that's not

916
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:36.159
a massive problem. The bullpen depth, it has not been as good as

917
01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:41.920
I thought it would be. There's
no power and they're not very good defensively.

918
01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:47.039
It shows you, folks, just
how far away this team really is

919
01:30:48.840 --> 01:30:54.920
in what we would all consider a
very winnable division. At least that's the

920
01:30:54.920 --> 01:31:00.119
way it started. It's kind of
disheartening. Meyer Hotline eighty six to eight

921
01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:03.079
forty eight forty three. You could
text us at twenty one thousand. We're

922
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:09.640
back with more of your thoughts and
some NFL discussion when we return on Exies

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and Bros. After this in the
Den with Dan Dickerson. Hey, Tiger's

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929
01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:39.880
for a while, and that's a
huge blow to an offense ive US showing

930
01:31:39.920 --> 01:31:43.840
signs of life in May cold Keith
Carpenter Matt Merling led the way. Now

931
01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:45.920
the attention turns of the players who
really need to step up in the absence

932
01:31:45.960 --> 01:31:49.479
of Carpenter, and the spotlight is
squarely on Spencer Torclsen. After hitting three

933
01:31:49.479 --> 01:31:53.319
home runs in a seven game stretch. Torclsen is now married in a three

934
01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:56.800
for thirty seven slump with thirteen strikeouts. Last year, a high hard hit

935
01:31:56.920 --> 01:31:59.760
rate was an indicator better times were
ahead, and he did have the big

936
01:31:59.800 --> 01:32:01.960
fin This year, the hard hit
rate is down sharply. The bats are

937
01:32:01.960 --> 01:32:04.760
getting worried. His timing is off, he's pulling off the ball, he's

938
01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:09.239
missing fastball toor Felson is working hard
to find his timing. The Tigers really

939
01:32:09.239 --> 01:32:15.199
need to see results soon. We're
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played some golf over the weekend.
What do you have to do in order

946
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to fill your bag with a golf
glove, golf balls, tease some of

947
01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:53.279
the essentials you need, Well,
you need to find the right deal for

948
01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:55.640
a lot of those places. Now, a lot of people go online,

949
01:32:55.640 --> 01:32:58.439
a lot of people try to go
to the pro shop. When they show

950
01:32:58.479 --> 01:33:00.840
up at a golf course, a
lot of people will go where the golf

951
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:04.159
range is. The best place to
go is Meyer. And the reason I

952
01:33:04.199 --> 01:33:10.600
say that is because they give you
the fair price for what you need.

953
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:13.680
Folks, you and I are not
trying to get on the PGA Tour.

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Okay, they have different golf balls
for the PGA Tour than they do for

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you and I out of the rock
pile. Let you and I understand this.

956
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:25.560
Let's enjoy the game, but let's
not break the bank while trying to

957
01:33:25.600 --> 01:33:29.319
play the game. It's expensive enough
to go out there and play a decent

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track, So why would you want
to fill your golf bag with really expensive

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golf balls from a golf pro shop? Where they're making so much money off

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those golf balls. They're already making
money off you by some of the things

961
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that you're already contributing halfway house,
right with the beers and the soda and

962
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the hot dogs and the like.
Make sure you're saving your money where you

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can. Meyer gives you a great
deal on some of your golf essentials so

964
01:33:56.920 --> 01:34:00.319
you can go out and enjoy the
game you love with friends. You appreciate

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It's about getting the bang for your
buck, and you get it with your

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golf game. Only Admire nineteen after
the hour, Welcome back, extras and

968
01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:34.399
Bros. Glad you're with us.
Matt Shepherd. Ben is our producer.

969
01:34:34.640 --> 01:34:38.880
He's manning the Meyer hotline eight sixty
six eight three, eight forty eight forty

970
01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:43.439
three. He's also handling our techs
sports radio to twenty one thousand. Let's

971
01:34:43.439 --> 01:34:46.640
get to the phone lines, Ben, Someone's called him waited through the breakforst

972
01:34:46.640 --> 01:34:49.479
Who is it? Yeah, we
got truck or B on the line.

973
01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:54.960
Truck or B. What's going on? Not much, just playing in this

974
01:34:55.119 --> 01:34:59.000
little fun traffic here, Noby.
Okay, hopefully you get through it quickly.

975
01:34:59.079 --> 01:35:00.640
What's going on? What's your it's
on your on your mind? Here?

976
01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:05.800
I Tim Bowden, Oh my gosh, what a newsfly. I was

977
01:35:05.960 --> 01:35:10.359
shocked when you said that. It's
like, are you kidding me? Really?

978
01:35:10.720 --> 01:35:13.560
Boy? I didn't think I had
the brains to figure that out myself.

979
01:35:15.159 --> 01:35:16.640
Yeah, that's it's pretty obvious,
don't you think. I mean it's

980
01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:20.399
something that you've probably already come to
the conclusion for. Yeah. Yeah,

981
01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:24.720
we've already talked about this how many
times for the last two three weeks.

982
01:35:24.720 --> 01:35:32.199
Anyways, Now Forres has been a
or p res. I get so confused

983
01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:39.760
with that now it's been such a
delight. And he was not on the

984
01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:44.000
twenty six man roster of the year, but now he's worked his way on.

985
01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:49.399
Now. I know they like to
wait till people people are ready in

986
01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:55.319
order to pull ho How do you
know if they're ready or not? Because

987
01:35:55.920 --> 01:36:01.720
maybe they're not sunning the world on
in the miners, but maybe something would

988
01:36:01.840 --> 01:36:06.239
click. I mean, is there
a way to find that out? I

989
01:36:06.279 --> 01:36:10.279
mean, right now we're ten out
and like I said, four back,

990
01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:16.720
and yeah, Houston, Tampa and
Toronto behind them, and they don't learn

991
01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:20.640
how to score runs with clarity.
And also they're not getting anywhere anyways,

992
01:36:21.640 --> 01:36:29.000
So is there a way to figure
out, Okay, he's not doing badly,

993
01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:31.399
he's not doing great, but let's
give him a try with that.

994
01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:39.479
You think that would work at all
a specific player, No, I don't

995
01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:45.119
know, because it's hard to follow
the miners because you don't know who's putting

996
01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:47.239
in the effort. Really hard because
you can't see from a day to day

997
01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:53.920
on who's doing what you know,
and you can't I even live in a

998
01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:58.439
Grand Appetis and go to West Michigan
game and say, Okay, he's gonna

999
01:36:58.680 --> 01:37:02.359
end up going somewhere and you can
see it, but you're not gonna pull

1000
01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:10.560
from you know, Lakeland or West
Michigan up in the up in the Tigers.

1001
01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:14.439
That'd be insane. You're just gonna
throw development right out the window.

1002
01:37:14.520 --> 01:37:18.439
Then, yeah, that's nice.
It's only something A and and stuff like

1003
01:37:18.479 --> 01:37:27.640
that. You know, when when
Mice and Manning and Turnbull when they were

1004
01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:30.600
down there Eerie, they were just
totally dominating, and I, you know,

1005
01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:34.840
and I was kind of hoping at
the time they'd pull them up just

1006
01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:40.239
to see what they would do.
But because the three of them back to

1007
01:37:40.319 --> 01:37:44.720
back to back. You would see
it night after night after night after night.

1008
01:37:44.840 --> 01:37:47.520
All three of them were dominating.
Granted it's double A, but still

1009
01:37:47.960 --> 01:37:50.840
you get a lot of players that
get pulled up from double A. Oh

1010
01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:53.960
sure, yeah, I mean double
A. A lot of people would tell

1011
01:37:53.960 --> 01:37:56.760
you a lot of people would tell
you the double A and thanks for the

1012
01:37:56.760 --> 01:38:00.760
phone call, appreciated, Trucky.
A lot of people wouldell you Double A

1013
01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:03.920
is where you really make your mark, because there's a lot of Triple A

1014
01:38:04.039 --> 01:38:09.159
guys who've they're just not good enough
to play in the majors. They're hanging

1015
01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:13.680
on and so they're they're gonna play
in triple A to keep a the dream

1016
01:38:13.720 --> 01:38:15.279
alive, the opportunity to be,
you know, a kind of an up

1017
01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:21.760
and down guy, and trying to
expose themselves to other teams. You know,

1018
01:38:21.880 --> 01:38:26.239
I would remind people it's not like
wins Hill Perez was tearing up Triple

1019
01:38:26.319 --> 01:38:31.840
A when he was brought up from
a number standpoint, who do you bring

1020
01:38:31.920 --> 01:38:34.239
up? I don't know. It's
not as much even the twenty six man

1021
01:38:34.399 --> 01:38:41.319
roster trackerby as it is the forty
man. Because if you're not on the

1022
01:38:41.359 --> 01:38:45.159
forty man, you have to the
team has to make a move to send

1023
01:38:45.159 --> 01:38:50.239
somebody off the forty man. All
right, you can protect forty guys.

1024
01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:56.560
Twenty six guys are on the major
league roster, but you can protect forty

1025
01:38:56.760 --> 01:39:00.840
from any other team coming in and
getting them. So I'll give you an

1026
01:39:00.840 --> 01:39:08.760
example. The Tigers have three catchers
on their forty man. Dylan Dingler who's

1027
01:39:08.800 --> 01:39:11.680
at Triple A, Carson Kelly,
and Jake Rodgers, both at the major

1028
01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:15.680
league level. That makes sense.
They have two catchers and they have a

1029
01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:19.239
guy waiting in the wings in case
one of those catchers goes down. All

1030
01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:27.279
right, Okay, From the position
players, the guys who are not up

1031
01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:33.840
with the big league team but are
protected on the forty man are Buddy Kennedy

1032
01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:45.359
and he's been up, Ryan Kreidler, Eddie's, Leonard Parker Meadows, and

1033
01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:55.119
Ryan Valet. Those are the five
guys carry Carpenter's on the IL. That's

1034
01:39:55.159 --> 01:39:58.560
the reason Perez is called up.
He's done really well. You wouldn't expect

1035
01:39:58.640 --> 01:40:02.119
him to be sent back down.
There are certain guys if you try to

1036
01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:08.319
send them down, they would have
to clear waivers first because they don't have

1037
01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:13.840
minor league options. Right, So
you're not sending a guy like Geo Rochelle.

1038
01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:16.800
Not that they would, but Geo
Roscheller or Mark Canada, that's that's

1039
01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:21.680
not happening. How your bias those
guys don't go. When Carrie Carpenter comes

1040
01:40:21.720 --> 01:40:25.760
back, what do you do?
Well, it's probably you know, justin

1041
01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:29.199
Henry Molloy, Spencer Torkleson if he
were to come back, who would it

1042
01:40:29.199 --> 01:40:31.760
be. Well, then you get
into a little bit of a dilemma.

1043
01:40:32.119 --> 01:40:35.920
My guess it would be is if
the guy's still struggling, it would be

1044
01:40:36.520 --> 01:40:44.800
Cole Keith because he has minor league
options and he might need some more seasoning.

1045
01:40:44.920 --> 01:40:49.039
Like when Jim Bowden I just read
that article to you about his assessment

1046
01:40:49.800 --> 01:40:56.600
to say Cole Keith has been a
major disappointment. Look, guy comes up

1047
01:40:56.720 --> 01:41:00.840
from from Double A. It's gonna
Jim Boone shouldn't as well as anybody.

1048
01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:05.520
It's going to take some time.
Guy was a really good hitter. I

1049
01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:11.479
think he's going to be okay.
But there is a there is a growing

1050
01:41:11.520 --> 01:41:17.720
period. There is a learning curve
that you have to have and that most

1051
01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:27.520
major league players have to adjust to. Right absolutely, The Meyer Hotline eighty

1052
01:41:27.520 --> 01:41:32.319
sixty six eight three eight forty eight
forty three. We do have another text

1053
01:41:32.359 --> 01:41:34.680
that I want to get to here
in a moment, we got to take

1054
01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:41.199
a quick time out. It's an
appropriate text. I'm glad they did it.

1055
01:41:41.199 --> 01:41:45.640
It's something that somebody told us.
I guess it's it's the same individual

1056
01:41:45.920 --> 01:41:51.159
from a couple of weeks ago and
strongly suggested we follow it and wanted to

1057
01:41:51.199 --> 01:41:57.279
know why we weren't talking about it. It was a legitimate gripe. We're

1058
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going to fix that when we come
back on Exus and Bros. Plus,

1059
01:42:00.439 --> 01:42:05.720
I want to get to some NFL
couple of primary stories that are out there

1060
01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:11.079
involving the Lions and get your thoughts
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here, get your thoughts on some
of the things that we've discussed. Baseball

1077
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:44.640
heavy this morning, for sure,
but there's also something else that, well

1078
01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:50.439
to a certain extent, went under
the radar and it needs to be trumpeted

1079
01:43:53.640 --> 01:43:58.159
for this program and throughout the state. I think it has to do with

1080
01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:02.239
a recent text the text line sports
Radio to twenty one thousand, Ben,

1081
01:44:02.600 --> 01:44:04.880
go ahead and read it. Yeah, it says big shout out to the

1082
01:44:04.920 --> 01:44:11.319
Saganaw Spirit, Saganaw's OHL team who
won the Memorial Cup tournament last night with

1083
01:44:11.399 --> 01:44:15.439
a four to three win over the
London Kings. This was also the first

1084
01:44:15.439 --> 01:44:18.800
time the Memorial Cup was hosted in
Saginaw, Michigan. Yep, it was

1085
01:44:18.840 --> 01:44:23.319
over the London Nights, actually four
to three with the final. As you

1086
01:44:23.399 --> 01:44:29.199
mentioned, Saganaw the fifth US winner
in the one hundred and four year history

1087
01:44:29.279 --> 01:44:36.039
of the Memorial Cup. The fifth
Portland Winterhawks wanted in nineteen eighty three,

1088
01:44:36.199 --> 01:44:42.920
nineteen eighty eight, and the Spokane
Chiefs wanted in nineteen ninety one and two

1089
01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:48.680
thousand and eight. Hats off to
Saganaw. Somebody had apologized I had forgotten

1090
01:44:48.720 --> 01:44:53.159
the name, but somebody in Saginaw
had called us. Do you remember this

1091
01:44:53.279 --> 01:44:55.920
been a few weeks back and said, you know what I do, but

1092
01:44:56.000 --> 01:44:59.760
I don't remember who it was.
Yeah, but they did mention that we

1093
01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:06.800
to give them some love and they
were absolutely right. So we appreciate anybody

1094
01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:12.159
listening on the mitt WLUN one hundred
point nine serving Midland and sagan On Bay

1095
01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:15.600
City and I'm sure you went to
a lot of Saginaw Spirit games, and

1096
01:45:15.880 --> 01:45:18.640
I hope you were at the event
last night. I hope it was as

1097
01:45:18.720 --> 01:45:26.039
thrilling for you as it was for
us to read about it. So good

1098
01:45:26.079 --> 01:45:30.640
for them. Hats off to them, congratulations, that's fantastic stuff. All

1099
01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:35.680
right, let me get to a
couple of football notes before we get out

1100
01:45:35.680 --> 01:45:45.640
of here. ESPN came out with
the NFL Power Index this time of year.

1101
01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:49.880
It's always rather amusing to me because
we just we're just not sure what

1102
01:45:49.920 --> 01:45:54.439
the team looks like. However,
if depending on what the team, if

1103
01:45:54.479 --> 01:45:58.319
you're looking at the team right now, if everybody's healthy, that's the assumption,

1104
01:45:58.520 --> 01:46:03.840
right San Francisco is the favorites.
And I don't have a problem with

1105
01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:09.800
that, and I don't think you
should either. They're intact, they've got

1106
01:46:10.319 --> 01:46:15.800
great depth, they're well balanced.
They have a legitimate quarterback in Brock Purty.

1107
01:46:16.159 --> 01:46:19.239
I'm not saying it's a top five
I'm just saying he's legitimate. He's

1108
01:46:19.239 --> 01:46:25.279
a good player. You got Christian
McCaffrey, you got Brandon Ayuk, You've

1109
01:46:25.279 --> 01:46:29.880
got Deebo, Samuel, George Kittle. There's plenty of offensive weapons there right

1110
01:46:30.359 --> 01:46:34.880
defensively, Fred Warner is a hell
of a linebacker, Nick Bosa up front.

1111
01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:41.239
There's more, can't name them all, but they're legit. So they

1112
01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:45.239
right now have the best chance of
winning the Super Bowl, and that best

1113
01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:49.520
chance, by the way, is
only sixteen percent in terms of the Power

1114
01:46:49.560 --> 01:47:00.920
Index. Where do you think the
Detroit Lyons sit? According to this power

1115
01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:09.720
index? They are fourth the NFL
Football Power Index rankings, the Lions are

1116
01:47:09.760 --> 01:47:17.520
fourth, and yet it would also
indicate that the Lions have the third best

1117
01:47:17.640 --> 01:47:23.800
chance to win the Super Bowl,
not playing it, but win it.

1118
01:47:25.279 --> 01:47:30.880
Niners number one, Chiefs number two, Lions number three at ten percent,

1119
01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:34.079
better than Cowboys, better than the
Ravens, better than the Eagles, better

1120
01:47:34.119 --> 01:47:44.079
than the Bills, which is interesting
considering the Football Power Index ranks them fourth

1121
01:47:45.800 --> 01:47:48.520
number one, the Niners number two, the Chiefs number three, the Ravens,

1122
01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:57.800
and then the Lions. So I
found that rather interesting, wondering how

1123
01:47:57.840 --> 01:48:04.520
close you think that is to a
reality. Do you believe that the Lions

1124
01:48:05.039 --> 01:48:12.119
would be the third favorite to win
the Super Bowl? And do you think

1125
01:48:12.159 --> 01:48:17.039
that's quite the compliment that I would
be receiving it as if I were in

1126
01:48:17.079 --> 01:48:23.560
the Lions front office. Doesn't guarantee
anything. I'm just saying. Here's the

1127
01:48:23.600 --> 01:48:29.800
other thing. The most likely Super
Bowl matchups. The Lions are at number

1128
01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:34.800
three and number seven. The most
likely is a repeat of the Chiefs and

1129
01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:41.319
Niners, and then the Ravens and
Niners. Number three would be Chiefs and

1130
01:48:41.439 --> 01:48:47.800
Lions, and number seven is Ravens
and Lions. Okay, maybe get a

1131
01:48:47.840 --> 01:48:51.640
little too caught ahead of yourself.
Here's the thing that encouraged me. Most

1132
01:48:51.840 --> 01:48:59.960
likely conference title game matchups Chiefs Ravens
would be an easy one on the AFS

1133
01:49:00.079 --> 01:49:04.119
East side. That's at nine percent, equal percentage for a rematch of last

1134
01:49:04.199 --> 01:49:12.720
year's in the NFC side with the
Niners and Lions. Isn't it fun to

1135
01:49:13.039 --> 01:49:20.439
just have the national media glowing about
your team for the first time in a

1136
01:49:20.520 --> 01:49:29.199
long time, since the early nineties
that I can recall. It may just

1137
01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:32.880
there's something about it that makes you
feel pretty damn good. Usually it doesn't

1138
01:49:32.960 --> 01:49:38.720
matter to me what national people say, because we're closer to the situation than

1139
01:49:38.760 --> 01:49:43.600
anybody. You and I have lived
it for crying out lot. But to

1140
01:49:43.640 --> 01:49:47.439
be to finally get recognized and it
is pretty important. Just talks of the

1141
01:49:48.079 --> 01:49:57.159
relevance of it nice to have your
team in that mix where you're quote unquote

1142
01:49:57.199 --> 01:50:03.239
respected. Another story that caught my
eye yesterday or over the weekend, I

1143
01:50:03.279 --> 01:50:13.079
should say, is somebody asked CJ. Stroud, who had such a much

1144
01:50:13.239 --> 01:50:17.239
better rookie season than I ever thought
he would be. I think there's too

1145
01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:27.720
often we look at labels of programs, college programs and we just associate past

1146
01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:33.520
failures slash successes with draft picks and
thinking they're going to be as good or

1147
01:50:33.600 --> 01:50:39.600
not as good or as bad as
some of the guys who played that position

1148
01:50:39.640 --> 01:50:43.600
in the past. Ohio State quarterbacks
is a pretty good example of that.

1149
01:50:43.720 --> 01:50:53.000
Right, Why should CJ. Stroud
be penalized just because Haskins and Barrett and

1150
01:50:53.079 --> 01:50:57.000
some of these other guys were not
as successful as you thought they might be.

1151
01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:01.960
He shouldn't be. On the other
hand, do you just take an

1152
01:51:02.119 --> 01:51:13.199
LSU wide receiver because of the success
of Odell Beckham or Jamar Chase. No.

1153
01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:18.880
But look, there is something to
be said for a certain type of

1154
01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:27.319
style and a certain type of system
in which they teach certain positions at certain

1155
01:51:27.359 --> 01:51:30.720
programs. So I get it.
But c J. Stroud, who was,

1156
01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:33.920
like I said, much better than
I thought he would be as a

1157
01:51:33.960 --> 01:51:41.319
rookie. Was on a podcast recently
and they asked him, who are the

1158
01:51:41.319 --> 01:51:49.760
top five quarterbacks in the league in
order? Strouds, any quarterback is probably

1159
01:51:49.800 --> 01:52:00.600
going to say themselves, right,
gunnerments you probably not, but certain guys

1160
01:52:00.640 --> 01:52:04.159
are are going to mention themselves if
they feel like, you know, they've

1161
01:52:04.159 --> 01:52:11.239
had a really productive season. And
I understand that. You know, I

1162
01:52:11.239 --> 01:52:15.319
I probably a guy like Jared Goff
if you asked him, he would place

1163
01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:16.520
say, well, I'll take myself
out of it. Here are the other

1164
01:52:16.560 --> 01:52:20.640
guys, you know what I mean? And with all due respect, I

1165
01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:27.520
doubt Mac Jones or Aidan O'Connell or
you know, certain Nick mullens are not

1166
01:52:27.560 --> 01:52:30.479
going to sit there and say,
yeah, I belong in that conversation,

1167
01:52:30.319 --> 01:52:35.199
but you're probably not asking them that
question anyway. I mean, as good

1168
01:52:35.279 --> 01:52:42.399
as Jake Browning was for Cincinnati once
in a while, you're he's he's not

1169
01:52:42.479 --> 01:52:45.840
a top top five guy, even
he would admit that, I would hope

1170
01:52:45.359 --> 01:52:49.720
anyway. So you look at what
c J. Stroud said. He said,

1171
01:52:50.159 --> 01:53:02.680
Patrick mahomes, Lamar Jackson, c
J. Stroud, Dak Prescott and

1172
01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:14.399
Jalen Hurts. I read that and
I thought, well, really, you're

1173
01:53:14.479 --> 01:53:23.479
kidding me. You're trying to tell
me that you don't have a guy like

1174
01:53:24.000 --> 01:53:32.880
Joe Burrow in that conversation. You're
telling me that there's no Josh Allen or

1175
01:53:33.079 --> 01:53:42.920
Justin Herbert like I get Mahomes for
sure, I get Jackson. He's the

1176
01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:49.600
MVP. And I guess I should
be a little bit more understanding of why

1177
01:53:49.960 --> 01:53:57.479
C. J. Stroud would pick
himself. I love the confidence. He

1178
01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:04.319
was pressed a little bit knowing that
Dak Proscott is probably a little polarizing,

1179
01:54:05.680 --> 01:54:14.840
especially from Cowboys fans. He said, Dak is one of the most accurate

1180
01:54:14.920 --> 01:54:23.159
quarterbacks in the world, which then
kind of forced me to beg the question,

1181
01:54:23.800 --> 01:54:29.279
is that more important than winning?
I mean, Prescott the Pro Bowler

1182
01:54:29.319 --> 01:54:32.520
in twenty eighteen, he's did a
hell of a job. He really did

1183
01:54:33.039 --> 01:54:42.399
thirteen and three former Offensive Rookie of
the Year, right the Pro Bowler.

1184
01:54:44.720 --> 01:54:49.279
At one point, he took some
heat. Let's put it that way.

1185
01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:56.239
He took some heat and then he
had to update it. He had to

1186
01:54:56.319 --> 01:55:00.760
update his list on his Instagram account. In other words, he wasn't true

1187
01:55:00.760 --> 01:55:06.279
to his conviction. Look, if
that's how you feel, that's fine,

1188
01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:13.560
it's all debatable. There are probably
two guys who aren't debatable in there.

1189
01:55:14.079 --> 01:55:16.399
I mean Mahomes and Jackson. Now, you got have the same argument about

1190
01:55:16.439 --> 01:55:20.640
Lamar Jackson that he hasn't had the
playoff success when you win two MVPs,

1191
01:55:23.079 --> 01:55:27.720
there's something to be said for that, right, absolutely, But there's no

1192
01:55:27.760 --> 01:55:31.640
debate about Mahomes. He would be
on everybody's list. The other four guys,

1193
01:55:31.720 --> 01:55:35.279
the other four members of that list, whoever you may have, will

1194
01:55:35.319 --> 01:55:43.800
be debatable. So if that's how
you feel, don't cave to the pressure.

1195
01:55:43.840 --> 01:55:49.000
Man stand your ground and say this
is my belief. There's too many

1196
01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:53.239
times in life where we're sitting here
going I'm sorry, I don't agree with

1197
01:55:53.279 --> 01:55:55.800
the masses, so I'm going to
change. So I can't agree with the

1198
01:55:55.840 --> 01:56:01.439
masses. No, So he takes
some pushback, so he updates his list,

1199
01:56:02.960 --> 01:56:08.560
kept the top three in there.
So he kept Mahomes and Jackson himself,

1200
01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:13.279
he feels like they are the top
three quarterbacks. He adds Josh Allen

1201
01:56:14.960 --> 01:56:21.119
to number four and moved Prescott to
number five and takes Jalen Hurts out of

1202
01:56:21.159 --> 01:56:28.720
it. He also added that Joe
Burrow is among the best top five,

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but he missed half of last year, so there's the out. That's why

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he left him off his list.
It's not like Justin Herbert had this great

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year last year, but I would
take Justin Herbert. Is it too early

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to say on Jordan Love? Because
I thought Jordan Love was better than C.

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J. Stroud, but he didn't
have him in there. If you're

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going to go by numbers, and
I'm not saying you should, but if

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you're going to go by numbers,
brock Purty has to be in the conversation,

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and so does to a tongue of
aloa. Nobody threw for more yards

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than tongue of a loa in twenty
nine touchdowns. There's nothing wrong with that,

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right I was fifth ranked in the
NFL, and he doesn't turn it

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over a whole lot. Now,
if you're going to use numbers like that,

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your comment to me right away would
be wait a minute, man,

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I mean chef, you said,
Josh Allen. He threw eighteen picks,

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second most in the league, right, so it's a knock on him.

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I hate to tell you this,
but Patrick Mahomes through fourteen interceptions, same

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as tongue of Aloa and Trevor Lawrence. You're not going to quite shian Patrick

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Mahomes, are you. Hell no, nor should you. And a lot

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of that has to do with,
by the way, we don't know a

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lot of those interceptions. I don't
know if you watched him every single weekend.

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I did not watch him every single
weekend. I don't know those interceptions.

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Some of those are not all on
Patrick Mahomes. Some would be on

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his receivers or tight end. Some
are tip passes by his receivers, tight

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ends or running backs. That's the
way interceptions work. Sometimes they get thrown

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on the quarterback, but a lot
of times it's on somebody else. Not

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always, but a lot of times
we're just not always aware of it,

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and we conveniently forget it. And
I'm guilty of it too. But I

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found that interesting something that you may
discussed with buddies of yours moving forward.

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Any time, if you want a
debate, I say this a lot.

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If you want a really good debate, if you want to open up a

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conversation, you're just standing there at
a party and you're just kind of wondering

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up the conversation is at a pregnant
pause. Hey, who do you think

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your top five quarterbacks are that'll get
people going like right away. Try that

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one time, or do the best
of all time type of discussion. Top

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five players of the NBA of all
time and start naming a few and you

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watch how that conversation turns depending on
the age of the person. It's really

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fun, it really is. I
mean, you just sit there and you're

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waiting to dive into something and then
boom. That conversation will not explode in

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a bad way, but it will
carry on for a long time, and

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by the way, pause for a
little bit, and then it'll pick back

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up. Quarterbacks, probably more than
any other position or sport in general with

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the NFL, will absolutely carry a
conversation for an extended period of time.

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I was at a gathering on Saturday
night and we started talking about the Lions.

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We weren't talking about quarterbacks per se, but we started talking about the

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Lions, and the conversation between us
four guys was we're cooking out, we're

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eating outside, we're having a chipping
contest. We go inside to watch a

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little of the hockey game. That
conversation lasted from the time it was brought

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up while we were grilling or making
pizzas in a pizza oven till the time

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that the hockey game was over,
you know, picking it up here and

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there every once in a while.
It was fascinating and it made me think

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of this article right here, because
even though our discussion wasn't specifically about quarterbacks,

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the NFL stirs up that emotion,
doesn't it. And then you dive

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into the collegiate and the three guys
I was hanging out with are all Michigan

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State spartans. The Jonathan Smith conversation, the great MSU teams of the past.

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How good were they compared to some
of the other rival teams that they

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put It was fascinating and really good. It shows you that shows like this

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kind of mirror I think what you
and I have conversations about and with with

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friends of ours, and I hope
that's how you take this show as well.

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We appreciate Ben for his producing,
We appreciate you for your input as

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well. Well. I hope you
have a great rest of your Monday.

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