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Greding soncalutations everyone. It's for twelve. I'm walking to Fantasy Baseball Live and

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Happy New Year. It is the
second of January, ten o'clock in the

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morning. Tim, Happy new year. Happy new year to you as well,

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Rich and looking at the news this
morning. Very happy new year to

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about four hundred people in Japan today. Unfortunately not everybody. Everybody on the

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passenger plane survived. I don't know, did you see that accident? I

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heard about it. I thought a
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they. I think there was four
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on the Coastguard plane. There was
another one. Yes. Plane was

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coming into land low on fuel and
hit a Coast Guard plane apparently took the

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wing of the air bus, shared
it right off and both of them sort

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of exploded and UH and a ball
of fire. But they got everybody off

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the passenger plane. Unfortunately, five
of the six on the Coast Guard plane

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UH were killed. But that followed
up from yes, from yesterday's earthquake.

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So yeah, it's not been a
happy new year for the for our friends

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out in Japan. No, let's
just hope that the tsunami situation UH doesn't

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rear its ugly head for sure.
For sure, I didn't have time to

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catch up on the news because someone
was busy writing up second base rankings and

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then I had to put them all
out on the on all of our sites.

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So that's what I was doing this
morning. Who could that ever be?

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I don't know, close to deadline. Yeah, it's very well,

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I got Look, it's all about
process, so you just get you give

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them in. I hit a couple
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pumped out so it looks it looks
fine. I love the way that I'm

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getting the information back from you.
The spreadsheet. It encompasses everything. It

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just means I don't have to have
eight hundred and seventeen windows open and bounce

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around all over the place. Perfect. Yeah, and we're putting them out

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for our patron subscribers in that spreadsheet
format, so if people like to have

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that. Yeah, Yeah, they're
all out there, all in a nice

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little collection. The Tim McCleod Baseball
rankings, whatever they're called. I forgot

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what exactly what I called them,
but yeah, So Tim, we've got

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a we've got a great show planned. I think we're going to talk about

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the big Chrissale tray, and a
couple of other things. Second base preview,

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and then if we get to it, the San Francisco prospects so good,

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stuffyet lots lots lots to cover,
lots to cover, lots of before

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we start, Tim, what what
is today's state? It is January second?

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And what do I always do on
January first? Rip down the old

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calendars and put up the new ones? Uh? Do people do that anymore?

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Rich? Rich? Rich? Come
on, come on? Do you

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really have a paper calendar up on
your wall? Sitting right in front of

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me on the wall is a paper
calendar. Around the corner where my old

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phone landline used to be, there's
a paper calendar. And on the door

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frame as we enter my abode there
is another paper calendar. And I've got

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a desk calendar. You've got yeah, three paper calendars. Four totally yeah.

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Wow. Some say I may maybe
a dinosaur. But do they have

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I mean, are they the baseball
related or they are they from the Nationwide

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insurance guy? I mean, what
are they? You know, what is

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the bank I deal with? Okay, give the three calendars. You haven't

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paid for any of these? Well, of course not. I know Hey,

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I got to get something out of
my bank for all the charges they

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nailed me with during the year.
That my revenge is a host filled with

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banking calendars. Okay, wow.
So as as a gift to you,

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the next time I get a calendar
paper, I'm gonna send you one from

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from the US to me a United
States. I think we get one from

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our town here in Morristown. You
can see all the happenings that you're missing

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up in Fort Francis, that you're
missing in Marstown, New Jersey. Well,

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that's sweet, because all of my
calendars are in metric, I'll have

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one. I impurial, right,
that's funny. That's why. No,

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what I do every January first time
is my draft. I do an NFBC

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draft. Remember, oh oh that's
right. Yeah, even our lists,

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even our listeners, remember, because
I've already gotten a couple of emails and

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notes. Have you started your draft
yet? And of course, my good

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buddy Tim McCloud does he remember no, because he doesn't listen. He doesn't

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listen people exactly. So what draft, selet did you pull? Number two?

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Oh? Number two? That means
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I probably Corbyn Carroll. Right,
well, uh, so this is what

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I did, Timmy. Now you're
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like what I did, but this
is what I did. Okay, So

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Ronald count went one one and as
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uh and I when I did my
draft targets out on the Patriots site

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a couple of months ago, I
said, if Bobby wit Junior was on

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the board, I was going to
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I went number two, Bobby with
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looked at Corbyn Carroll, I looked
at Julio Rodriguez, all of them,

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there were everybody was everybody was there
except for Ronald Acunya. And I looked

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at the power and the speed,
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okay last season. I mean I've
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Sunday. I mean there could be
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not an only base percentage league.
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direction an only base percentage league,
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five, ten, maybe more.
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with regards to the outfield and some
of the potential challenges. Did you weigh

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those into your decision? I did. I did. I'll tell you what

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I did. But this is what's
fascinating, and this is just one one

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league. Can I read you the
first round? Sure? Akunya, Bobby

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Witt, Juli Rodriguez, Kyle Tucker
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heard Corbyn Carroll's name yet? No, I was going to say, I'm

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still waiting for Corbyn's name to be
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We're I pick number five. It
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followed by Mookie Betts, followed by
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comes in at number eight. So
this team eight Hoppy whoever the owner of

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Hoppy is he must Yeah, he's
he's the team owner. That's what he

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puts. That sounds like that sounds
like our friend Chris Chris from uh the

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British Isles com Fruite is is He's
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He picked number one. Rap Aster
picked Ronald Cooney. I would have thought

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he would have seen Wilson. It
was December thirty first he had said,

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I'll let Rich have ronald'acunyan note him, he did not. I didn't.

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I wasn't aware that you started drinking
Rich exactly right. But Corbyn Carroll,

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I mean that guy must congratulations to
team Hoppy. I mean he got a

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I think he got a huge bargain
there. And Freddy Freeman in the fifth

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level, that's that's that's yeah,
that that's a pretty aggressive pull for fred

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Freeman. Well, when you look
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hey, you know, there's some
challenges you got, you got a group

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at the top, and then you
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man Oatfield, I yeah, I
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or three. Yeah. I mean
I I can't blame I can't blame myself

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for taking Bobby with Julio Rodriguez.
I get that, Kyle Tucker, I

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get that. But the Freddie Freeman
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I those those were aggressive picks in
my humble opinion, So Corby Carroll,

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Fernando Tatis Junior, Juan Soda,
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I put him up right after all
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Bryce Harper moves way up to number
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and Showey Otani Is. Did you
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No, But I'm still of the
mindset that I will take Garrett Cole.

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I had a Spencer Strider, so
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But I totally get the Garrett Cole, and I totally get Garrett Cole

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in the first round, but he
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seventy eighty pick nineteen. Tim Yeah, starting pitching is that game is

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changing and changing very quickly, isn't
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the past several years. So Garrett
Cole went Spencer Strider, the only pitcher

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taken in the first first round,
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pick, and then Zach Wheeler was
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Castill, Corbyn Burns. So Corbyn
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to be pretty interesting. So we
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That's that's heavy. That's heavy.
Yeah, what came back to you?

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So I was pretty convinced I was
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one of three outfielders. I was
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pick, Timmy, come hell or
high water. Unless these three guys got

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taken off the board, maybe four
guys got taken off the board. There

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was no way in hell I was
gonna take on the Jones. So anyway,

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So Michael Harris, Lewis Robert,
Randy A. Rosarina, and o'doley's

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Garcia were all sitting there. I'm
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So Michael Harris, Randy A.
Rosreina, and Doley's Garcia and I

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studied the data two ways of Sunday, tim and to me, it would

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have been Michael Harris or Randy A. Rosarina, and I took Mike and

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I took Michael Harris. Good for
you, Uh? I like that pick.

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Yeah. I think a rose arena
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But the upside potential out of Harris
would lead me to one ahead in that

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direction, just to see how much
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a lot more in the tank than
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Rosarina is a fine pick, but
I think he is where he is and

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when I would go with that upside
potential, I looked at it. So

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I've got a big spreadsheet for people
in the picture in sight. They know

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what I'm talking about. They have
all the players in there, and that

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rank them by different you know,
swinging strikes in the zone, out of

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the zone, all of this kind
of hard hit rates, all that kind

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of stuff. And they both are
very, very similar. But I just

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like the upside of Harris a little
bit more. He's a little bit faster

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than a Rose Arena and quite frankly, with the wander Franco not likely not

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being there in the season and in
the haze of that over overwhelming that was

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a little bit of a push to
Michael Harrison. Clearly Atlanta Braves going for

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it. I took him there then, and I wanted Gunner Henderson Town,

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and he was still on the board, and I'm like, I mean,

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I gotta take I gotta have the
outfield or I cannot risk going into it

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without an outfielder. So I took
Harris and then I came back and I

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there was a lot of pictures on
the board team. I did not want

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to wait all the way back to
pick fifty nine for my first picture makes

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sense, and I was I was
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George Kirby, Trek Scouble. I
thought it was a too early for

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Terrek Schouble. I loved George,
I loved the other three. But when

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I took a look at the date
and people in the Patreon site, well

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know this, Pablo Lopez was the
guy. The date was far superior than

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the other two guys. So there
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injury a couple of years ago.
I think that's behind him. So yes,

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I got with. I got Bobby
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Michael Harris twenty twenty, and I
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I'm pretty psyched him. Yeah it's
a good start. Yeah. I figured

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for sure you'd be taking a picture
because the last thing you wanted to do

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is depend on others to choose your
fate. And by leaving picture to your

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four or five swing, yeah,
you're putting your faith and trust in the

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rest of the group, leaving you
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that with only five six starters off
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going to the other eight nine teams, right, yep, yeah, So

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you're gonna be left with You're gonna
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it's a good thing that you took
it, took the situation under control and

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picked your faith. Now you can
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When you're next to you can go
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Yeah, But just so everybody knows, I mean, we're mid middle

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of the fourth round now, and
the starting pitchers that are out, they're

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still very good starting pitchers, but
the top guy is from Rivaldez, Blake

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Snell, Logan, Gilbert Logan Web. You're at that level now. And

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I just felt like Pablo Lopez,
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higher, higher level. So that's
why I went ahead. And I was

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not going to get slickered into the
Blake Snow No, I didn't want to

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do that. So I and Framer
Valdez. I like Framer Valdez, but

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I just don't know, so it's
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Logan's Gilbert or Web and I just
did I wanted somebody more as my number

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one starter. Yeah, I don't
understand what's happening with Logan web that one.

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I I I don't have that one
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going I think he's falling too far. Okay, we're talking about a pitcher

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that over the past two innings two
years seasons. Yeah, past, yeah,

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past two seasons. You know,
in twenty two he threw one hundred

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and ninety two innings. Last year
to sixteen. Okay, the strikeouts one

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sixty three, one four. Okay, he's won twenty six games the ERA

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two ninety three, twenty five,
WEB one sixteen one oh seven. I

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just don't think Logan Webb is getting
the love that he that he should be

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getting based on that that work or
horse mentality that he throws out there,

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combined with the fact that he's keeping
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So, Hey, if Web came
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to you with your fourth pick,
I know what I'd be doing. I'm

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not I'm not I'm not taking them. I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna

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tell you why. Okay, Yeah, he is getting hit extremely hard.

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His average exit velocity off the bat
is in the bottom ten percent. In

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other words, he's given up a
lot of hard hit rates you could say

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are the top ten in terms of
average X velocity. I mean his heart

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hit rates. Uh, timmy,
he is six in the league and giving

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up hard hit balls. And you
take a look he is. He is

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no longer thrown the four seamer.
It is all change up sinker and his

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whiff rates on his his change up
is twenty two eight, which is good,

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not great. His slider's twenty eight
to six, which is solid,

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and his sinker's ten point four.
So he is just not missing a lot

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of bats. So I don't know. His era is three twenty five,

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is expected eras three sixty three.
It's a very good picture. I think

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there's some warning signs there, So
I'm going to buy I'm going to bypass

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him. Yeah, I also have
a little bit of a bias with web

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and that he won was largely responsible
for winning a league for me last year,

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So yeah, there is a bias
there. But yeah, we're looking

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at a guy that, in all
probability is going to pitch close to two

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hundred innings. And once you get
once you get through the next group of

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pitchers. This next sort of a
little mini tier that falls off quick.

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And I don't blame you for passing
on Trek's Schooble. Hey, I love

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what he did in the second half, but there is no sustained history of

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one hundred and sixty hundred seventy plus
innings worth of workload out of Schooble,

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and that there's there's my concern lines
to me, Timmy, I don't know

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about you. It's in the first
five rounds where you draft. It pretty

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much dictates the type that the the
players that will be there. I mean,

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I love Wan So, I think
there's huge value for Wan Soda.

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But if I'm picking two, I'm
not taking Wan So. I mean just

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not so it doesn't diminish my love
for Wan Soda, particularly this year.

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I just think there's better options there. I love Tarik's Schooble, I'm not

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taking him. And with pick number
thirty two or whatever, I took him

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out. I don't so it's but
if I was picking at the end,

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uh, you know, on the
wheel, and I he was my fourth

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pick, yeah, I would jump
on Eric Schuble. So it really depends

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on where you're picking the slot that
you're picking early in drafts. I hope

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ya was there for you. He
has gone, he is gone? I

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I I, oh, yeah,
I should talk were he? I actually

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smiled and he went off the board. I'm like, sucker. He went

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off on car Chars fourth round,
second pick, fourth round, second pick.

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Okay, so our buddy Hoppy again. If that's the guy that you

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know, Corbyn Carroll, Zach Wheeler, bobashet that's a strong one two three,

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very strong? Where did Lad go? Vlad Guarrira of Vlad Guerrera of

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Vlad Carira? Lad? Where's Flad
Carrera Flat Gerra Sol on the board and

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you're getting into the middle part of
the fourth round. I don't see him

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Inerson. Yeah, oh there he
is. I'm sorry. Middle middle of

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the third inning, middle thirdy,
middle of the third round. Pick Yeah

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yeah, sorry, middle of the
third round. Bobachette first, Flad Flat

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Guerra second. So okay, yeah, yeah, okay, now that's cool.

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I apologize. I apologies, Lad
Career. Then Boba shet So went

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one slot ahead up. So that's
that's what I did on New Yursday.

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Tim, Yeah, keep us updated. I'm curious to see how it shakes

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down with your next set of picks
if you want, if you want to

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join us at the Patren sight.
So my draft targets, those are the

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guys I'm going after. So uh, I'm probably going to get a closer

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to him on this next you know, in the next four or five picks,

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once they're made. I'm I've decided
with you that I want a solid

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closer. I'm not playing the uh, you know, betting on Alex Lang

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or are the guys around Alex Lang. I'll have him as my second guy,

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but I'm not gonna I'm not going
to focus on one of those guys.

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In the NFC, you closers go
early. So well, yeah,

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the bottom line there is there there's
no trays, there's no pickups. That's

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if you don't have yourself a solid
closer, you're basically taking a chance.

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I'm blowing off and playing five by
four. That's not that's not a recipe.

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I don't believe for success more times
than not. So yeah, you

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gotta get yourself a closer in the
drafting hold. I mean, let let's

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take a break, come back and
talk about the Chris Sale trade. Sounds

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good. I don't know if it
was nears for New Year's Day. But

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some day in the last couple of
days, there was a big trade,

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Timmy. The Braves acquired Chris Sale
from the Red Sox for Vaughn Grissom,

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And uh, I gotta tell you, and we'll talk about your opinion on

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it. I'll just say I love
the trade for both sides. I mean

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Chris Sale is not the same guy. I mean he's older, he's more

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brittle now, and Vaughan Grissom was
not going to get a chance in Atlanta.

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I think it's a win win for
everybody. That Braves are going for

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it. Red Sox are getting out
from under Chris Sound his big contract they

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probably should have never done, and
Von Gerson gets a shot. Yeah,

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I agree with you. It's you
know, when you look at the Braves,

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Okay, you know Spencer Strider,
Max Fred two really nice pictures at

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the top. But then you got
forty year old Charlie Morton, okay,

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nearing the end of his career,
who knows what to expect. And you

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know Bryce Elder, Chris Spring Chicken
each So no he's not. But if

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the Braves, the Braves needed another
starting pitcher and short of going out into

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the free free agent market and spending
at least one hundred million, because I

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think that's that's in an Auga range. Okay, and possibly a bit more

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from Montgomery or Snell. Unless you're
willing to commit to a long term contract.

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The only way you're going to get
a starting picture is too is through

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the trade. Via the trade situation. So yeah, I think the Braves

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did well. They traded a way
to them an extra, an extra body,

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a very young with very very high
upside potential, I believe. But

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they also got themselves a pitcher that
they need and they're in it to win

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it, so it makes sense.
And Boston on the other end, yeah,

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hey, I think they're happy to
get a young player with the upside

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potential of Von Grissom for Chris Sale
who you know, Hey, hey,

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the number numbers are there, one
hundred and forty seven innings in twenty nineteen

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forty two innings, five point two
innings, one hundred and two innings.

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Yeah, it was. It was
an improvement last last year, so I

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mean we did need to give him
credit there. I mean, hopefully he

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has passed a you know what was
ever ailing on them and you know,

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look it was expected ere three seventy
one. He didn't pitch all that poorly,

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but I think to expect two hundred
innings at him is probably not not

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good and I it's probably not the
right position. And you have to believe,

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like with Kershaw, once he comes
back in these older guys sures or

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when he comes back, they're not
gonna pitch him a ton during the regular

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season. Ten They're gonna wait to
make sure he's ready for the for the

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postseason, don't you think, Well, yeah, I'd be shocked if Sale

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gets much more than one hundred and
fifty hundred and sixty innings. Yeah,

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yeah, they want him for the
postseason. Charlie Morton the same thing,

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one hundred and thirty hundred and forty
innings. They want, you know,

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to have access to him in the
playoffs. The only pitcher on the Braves

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roster that I think will come close
to the two hundred inning mark might be

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Striker. Yeah. Yeah. Other
than that, yeah, they're gonna be

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very careful what they do with their
pitching. And hey, it makes total

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sense because there isn't a whole lot
of it out there and the price to

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acquire it, Hey, supply demand
it's not gonna be cheap. If you

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want yourself even a mid level starter, you're gonna pay for it. And

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they've, at least for now,
it looks like they've addressed that concern.

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So hey, good for both parties. I like it. You couldn't be

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sitting there with, you know,
a fourty year old Charlie Morton starting hopefully

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making it to the postseason starting Game
three, and if he doesn't, you're

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looking at Bryce Elder. That was
that was not that was an untenable situation

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for the team. That good in
my opinion, And I think this just

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it shows up the regular season.
Yeah, I think Bryce Elder and A.

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J. Smith Shover, maybe even
Hirston Waldrip, they're all going to

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get a shot. But they're not
at the level of Chris Sale. No,

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they're not. They don't have the
experience. I can't. I don't

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have the pure raw stuff of Chris
Sale. I mean it's still pretty good

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stuff. Yeah, oh no,
I yeah. Hey, if I could

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get a three seventy five three year
a out of Chris Sale on one hundred

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and fifty innings, I think that
would be considered a success. Yep.

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Now he is going so yeah,
he's going to be thirty five. Let's

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do I have he's a seventieth pitcher
off the board. Let's call it the

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fiftieth starter. What do you think
is that? Is that interest to you

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at all? Or is that a
pass? I would depend on how my

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pitching looks at that at that stage
of the game. Probably a pass,

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because I'm gonna think I'm gonna have
three good starters and I'll roll the dice.

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There's some starters going way later than
I think they should be. Okay,

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I think I would focus on them, and probably in and about that

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pick range, i'd probably look at
a bat. But you know you're at

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fiftieth starter off the board. Yeah, seventy. Yeah, he's going.

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It's not a bad price to pay
for Chris Sale. I just don't think

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it'll be in the cards for me
personally. Chris Sale at seventy or Bryce

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Miller at seventy one Miller, Chris
Sale or Brian wu at seventy two?

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Sale? Really yeah, I'll go
with sail there. Wow, Okay,

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Chris Sale or at seventy three Braxton
Garrett Sale? Uh, Nick Pavetta,

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Oh Sale, Hunter Brown, you
got to countor Brown? Hunter Brown?

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Eddie Rodriguez, Chris Sale, I'll
go with I'll go with the Rudd last

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guy, Shane bows At seventy seven
Sale, Okay, okay, So I

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mean you got Edward Cabrera and this
is a whole bunch of pictures after that

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that I find really intriguing. So
you know, that might be the time

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where I'm going to approach bats and
dry and shore up some positional players and

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try and cherry picked my way through
some starting pitching a little bit later.

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Yeah, everybody, don't don't sleep
on Brian Woo. That's that's from Rich

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Wilson. I could be wrong.
Tim's the better Tim's a better player than

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me, but don't sleep on Brian
Wo. Okay, I thought about that

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one. Yeah, it's yeah,
it's it's reasonable, Yeah, it's yeah.

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They're both in a good spot.
So I you gotta feel good for

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for Vaughan Grissom. I mean,
this is a kid that came up played

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okay Timmy, and then lost his
job and there was no shot at at

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him playing in Atlanta unless he one
or two guys got hurt. So he

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gets moved his current ADPs five thirty
nine. I think that's going to go

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up. I would think, so
what re realm do you do? You

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grab him in? Well, you're
going to be grabbing him as a short

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stop. Short stop that I don't
think you have to I don't think you

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have to move early. Second base
is deep. You can. Hey,

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I'm looking at von Grissom in the
after round sixteen seventeen. When I look

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at the second base options, we're
going to get into that in a bid

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second base. There's a lot of
talent there. So let's let's look.

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I had the middle talent. I
had the middle endfielders up, because that's

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probably he's probably gonna be more of
a middle endfielder. Correct. Oh,

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yeah, he's that's definitely what you're
looking. Okay, here we go Von

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Grissom at fifty eight or Luis Garcia, who, by the way, Tommy

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put Garcia Luis and uh and the
notes which I thought was funny. Anyway,

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Garcia, my most was acting up. Copy and paste was not not

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happening. Well, Rich, I
fixed it for you. Fix anyway,

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Von Gris Garcia, Grissom, Uh, Von Grissom at fifty eight, Ezekiel

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Duran at fifty six. I'll go
with Grissom. Taylor at fifty five,

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Chris Taylor at fifty five, Vaughan
Grissom, Yeah, Grissom. Or here's

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an interesting one, Orlando Arcia at
fifty four or Vaughan Grissom at fifty eight

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Arsia? Really and what why is
that? I like what I've seen from

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Arcia. I think steady performer.
He's got a solid history, something that

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that Grissom doesn't. And you know, I'm just pulling up Arcia's stats right

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now, and you know, seventeen
home runs last year sixty five RBIs to

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sixty four average. I ain't hurting
you. And he's playing on a team

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that's going to provide him plenty of
RBI opportunities Atlanta, even if he's hitting

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at the bottom of the lineup.
So yeah, I'm yeah. Would you

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say if von Grissom hit seventeen home
runs this year, driven, drove in

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sixty five, and scored sixty six, would you call it a success?

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I would think you probably probably would
were the two sixty four average. I

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just think Arci is going to produce
better than him this year long term,

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so just everybody who knows. I
looked at the data and it basically shows

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that Grissom is a line drive hit
or there's not a lot of launch in

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his angle so launching his swing.
So just know that unless that changes,

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he's going to be more of a
doubles guy. So I think Tim is

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right, like twelve to fifteen home
runs. Would you say sixteen home runs?

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That? Yeah, that feels about
right. That might even be a

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little rich, you know, from
what we're looking at with the data.

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And he has got good speed,
but he is not a spurner. He's

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only at the fifty ninth percentile again
below exit exit rates. He makes really

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good contact and he swings at everything
all right, has very low walk rate.

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Guy, Yeah, you're looking at
I think if you get ten home

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runs, fifteen to eighteen stolen bases
are the grissom. I think that would

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be in the right area. Yeah, I agree with you. So I

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actually think he's he'll go up a
little bit. But I'm thinking he's about

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in the area that you want him
in. Well. Yeah, and when

405
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.200
you start looking, you know,
you're looking at mainly shortstops there, but

406
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:34.519
when you start looking at you know, second, I was just gone by

407
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:38.799
middle endfielder. Yes, yeah,
yeah, I don't know where players like

408
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:45.000
you know, Perdomo a personal favorite. Okay, Doomo Taylor, hold on,

409
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.200
hold on, hold on, hold
on to Perdomo. I saw in

410
00:31:48.240 --> 00:31:52.319
your your rankings how much you like
Predomant Walls. Perdomo is sixty four,

411
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:59.880
Vaughan Grissom fifty eight, So you
would take Doma, I'll probably take Prudoma.

412
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:07.279
Who was the other Taylor Walls Taylor
seventy five. Yeah, Zake McKinstry

413
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:15.920
or sorry, Zach McKinstry. McKinstry
is at sixty eight, just behind Vaughan

414
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:20.160
Grissom. Yeah, you know that
these are all players that I think have

415
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:27.920
I've shown some proven skills and have
jobs, and I have a hard time

416
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:34.680
taking Grissom. Yeah, unless it's
for a reserve round pick. There's there's

417
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:39.079
a pile of options there you don't
have to reach on Vaughan Grissom. Definitely

418
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:44.680
not agreed. A couple other quick
little signings. The Red sign Frankie Montas

419
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:46.920
one year, sixty million dollars.
Of course, no such thing as a

420
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:52.079
bad one year contract, but the
one years are becoming pretty expensive. Timmy,

421
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.079
he did miss most of last season, what can we expect from him

422
00:32:55.079 --> 00:33:06.079
this coming year? Having a clue
hopefully help. I don't know. Yeah,

423
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.119
I don't know either, but you
know what, I think it's a

424
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:12.319
good move for the Reds. Okay, they're not going to go out there

425
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:14.599
and compete. They're not going to
go out and spend a bundle on a

426
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:16.599
free agent. So again, they're
doing the same thing as the Braves are.

427
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:22.079
And hey, the Reds have got
a team that can win that division.

428
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.559
They needed another starting pitcher. They
paid sixteen million in the hopes that

429
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:30.079
Frankie Montes can stay healthy and be
at least an average picture and fill out

430
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:35.160
that rotation. So again, yeah, you're right, those one year deals

431
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:40.759
are expensive, but they're not committing
five years to Blake Snell is expensive or

432
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.440
eight years or whatever it is,
you know, whatever he settles for.

433
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:50.640
So again, the Reds took and
made the best of the circumstances that they're

434
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.519
working, the parameters that they're working
within. So I got no complaints with

435
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.240
them doing that. So if you've
got one of our listeners to me,

436
00:33:57.319 --> 00:34:02.119
who's got a really athletic ten year
old, twelve year old that can do

437
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:08.320
everything and loves baseball, make them
a pitcher man, that's where the money

438
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:13.480
is. I mean, look,
look at Red Sox signed Lucas Giolito,

439
00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:16.280
tim who has been terrible for the
last few years. Two years, thirty

440
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.320
eight million dollars. Yeah, well
he's got an opto the first year too.

441
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:22.719
Yeah, so if he pitches well, then he gets to go make

442
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:28.519
more. I mean yeah, even
like bad pictures, are guys who have

443
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:32.760
barely played or getting thrown huge money
and it's it is absolutely insane. Did

444
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:37.440
I mention the six or I didn't
see the six or seven of the top

445
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.199
twenty last year aren't going to be
on the field this year. Yeah.

446
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:45.199
Pitching's tough. You need it to
win, and they're just simply is not

447
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:52.760
enough of that commodity's sitting out there
and as a result, hey, pitchers

448
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:59.519
are getting paid well, why versus
demand Lake Snell and Jordan Montgomery and even

449
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:01.239
your buddy a Monaga. If I'm
saying the name, I mean they're they're

450
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:07.679
gonna get paid a lot of money. They're gonna get paid insanes I mean,

451
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.599
Blake Snell's a bar Is client too, so you know he's gonna get

452
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:14.920
paid way well. Yeah, you
know, you take a look last year

453
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:20.880
the Mets got Corde Sengo right for
five years of seventy five. I'm willing

454
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:25.639
to bet that m and Auga is
going to get twenty to twenty five million

455
00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:30.320
more on a same five year deal
than who's the better who's the better picture?

456
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:36.480
In your opinion, they're very close. Oh wow, but Senga's done

457
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:40.599
it okay, so that gives him
the edge, solidly the edge. Yeah,

458
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:45.920
just a small under the radar trade. Uh. The Yankees acquired Cody

459
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:51.599
Marris and the Guardians for Estevan Floriel. I wrote up something on the Patreon

460
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:58.079
site to me any thoughts on that
trade. Ah, yeah, it's I

461
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:00.840
like, what the Yankees did they
need another bullpen arm? They went out,

462
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.760
they got one for something that they
didn't really need. So yeah,

463
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:07.920
it works. The Guardians have got
another bat they can play around with in

464
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:10.559
the hopes that there's a part of
gold at the end of the rain rainbow

465
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.480
or a pot of something at the
end of the rainbow. So yeah,

466
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:16.559
it addresses a need for the Yankees. So it's not It's not a bad

467
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:20.360
deal at all. I thought.
I thought it was a little sneaky drive

468
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.559
deal for both of them. I
totally what you just said. I if

469
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.920
you look at Estevan Floria. I
don't think I'll ever hit enough, but

470
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.079
man, it's almost there. I
mean, that guy could be really good

471
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:36.199
with a couple of little tweaks,
somebody maybe in a new organization that tells

472
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.960
him something just a little bit different, maybe unlock something probably won't. And

473
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:45.320
Cody Morris is the same thing.
He's almost there so well, and then

474
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:51.119
there's needs involved, right and yeah, yeah, like I said, it's

475
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:55.239
a it's a good deal for both
parties. And hey, short of the

476
00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:00.280
Yankees spending a bundle on Josh Hader, you know hit, they need the

477
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:06.679
middle. They needed a bullpen arm
badly, and hopefully Morris can get that

478
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.320
done for him. Did do you
think that's where Josh Hader winds up as

479
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:15.719
with the Yankees? No, I, if I had to bet, I

480
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.199
still like Texas. I think that's
who I picked. But again, when

481
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:23.800
you look at what the Dodgers have
done so far this offseason, I wouldn't

482
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:30.119
I wouldn't rule the Dodgers under that
mix at all. Yeah, a bullpen

483
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:34.800
with you know, Phillips and gregorol
and Hat, that'd be a pretty good

484
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.760
bullpen, wouldn't they Yeah? Pretty
good? Pretty good to me. I

485
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.119
take a break back and talk.
Second Base sounds good looking forward to it.

486
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.880
I mean, we were heading back
to North Carolina this week. We

487
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:59.480
were playing back Friday, but it
looks like the storms are rolling in.

488
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:01.480
There's a big, big storm coming
up the east coast. We're gonna leave

489
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:07.119
a date early to get back before
the snow and heavy rains set in.

490
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:12.599
Smart move. It's a heavy traffic
corridor. You might as well get on

491
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.159
the road and off the road if
you know it's you know, if you

492
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.840
know that storms are brewing, Yeah, get on and get off as quick

493
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.639
as you can and try and beat
it out. Rich, Yep, that's

494
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:25.199
what that's what we're up to,
Tim. So I I love your second

495
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:30.719
Base. I first of all,
I love how this stuff's being presented to

496
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:34.239
our listeners and to our readers.
I think it's really good. Tim splitting

497
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.639
a little intro in front of each
of the thing, each of his write

498
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.719
ups. It's really good stuff.
And you can see all that on Prospect

499
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:45.880
through sixty one and out on the
Patreon site. But tell me how you

500
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:52.159
are approaching second base in a draft
sitting in my chair looking at my monitor,

501
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:58.760
Rich, you know where's where?
Okay? Shrimshot is duly noted.

502
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:01.880
Okay, I thought it'd be a
zero zero, but no, that was

503
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:07.159
very close to So I think I
saw a bad dad joke on Facebook or

504
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.760
Twitter, and one of those.
Probably Facebook is a little bit kinder than

505
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:14.760
Twitter is. It's the guy said
that he's been a good boy so far

506
00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:19.480
this year. That was that was
after one day, So that funny.

507
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:23.480
Well, hey, every streak starts
with one, right, Yeah, yeah,

508
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.440
no, I when I look at
second base, hey, there are

509
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:31.880
some there are some elite options at
the top of the pile and Bets Semian

510
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:37.480
and Azzi Alby's, and there's no
doubting they are all leite level players.

511
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.480
First two rounds off the board,
guaranteed. But then as you as you

512
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:46.880
get down a little bit further and
you start looking at yeah, well I'll

513
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:52.599
start with Matt McClean, okay,
very quickly. But when you get into

514
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.440
the the middle, middle, upper
tier, yeah, you got a host.

515
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:01.119
I don't think I've ever seen a
position with as many players that could

516
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:06.360
be fifteen, twenty five, fifteen
thirty, you know, twenty twenty you

517
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:10.239
got Matt McClain, power Speed,
Hassan Kim Power, speed, Nico Horner.

518
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:14.119
He had ten home runs last year. Then you get in, but

519
00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.480
you wouldn't call that power speed.
You call that speed with a little bit

520
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:20.119
of power, right, yeah,
Horner, Yes, But then you get

521
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:24.800
into Andrea Zemenez. There's fifteen twenty
five in the bank, Bryson Statt fifteen

522
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.480
twenty five, Geloff could be twenty
twenty, Astrada another fifteen twenty five,

523
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:42.039
Tommy Edmund thirteen fourteen thirty. Second
base is deep in options, and some

524
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.920
very very good options. You've even
got your spectacs further on. So for

525
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:51.079
me, I I've already done one
draft. I've seen what happens when you

526
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:55.400
go late on outfield. I'm going
to I'm going to be looking at an

527
00:40:55.400 --> 00:41:02.639
outfielder probably where semi and Alb's is
gonna go off the board, and I'll

528
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:07.840
play for that middle tier and be
very happy to get one or two fifteen

529
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:14.079
twenty five type players later on I'm
gonna go with I'm gonna go with the

530
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:19.440
mid pack for the most part and
try and make Ay make Hay there and

531
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:23.400
Phil fill in my outfield where the
elite players are. So again, I

532
00:41:23.440 --> 00:41:28.639
can't fault anybody for taking you know, any of the top three and Mookie

533
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:32.239
Bets is outfield eligible. Okay,
so you know, hey, I've got

534
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.599
him on the second base rankings,
you'll be on the outfield rankings if I

535
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.360
If I'm drafting Mookie Bets, odds
are pretty good that he's gonna be utilized

536
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:44.440
in the outfield slot. So midpack
for me, Rich and I think I'm

537
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:47.480
gonna make try and make my hay
there. That's interesting. So so because

538
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:53.519
conventional wisdom at least five years ago
would have said Mookie Bets definitely is playing

539
00:41:53.599 --> 00:42:00.519
second base. For Yeah, that's
changed. It has change. The game

540
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.639
has changed, and it's changed very
very quickly. And now we've got you

541
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:09.000
got a host of options at second
base. You get power, you got

542
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:15.719
speed, you got speed power.
Why would you commit to Mookie Betts at

543
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:19.440
second base when out field short?
Yeah? And as you as you kind

544
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:23.800
of listed everybody off as being similar
players, If they were similar players,

545
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:30.159
you might as well get the guy
that's last, or maybe a guy who

546
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:34.280
is second the last, who's got
the upside. That's how you want to

547
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.440
play, you know, if you're
playing those that tier game right, and

548
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.840
you know, you take a look
at a player like hass On Kim Okay,

549
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:47.199
He's going at basically the eighty first, eighty first player off the board,

550
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:52.280
right, Bryson Stott's going on one
oh five. How much of a

551
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:57.079
difference is there between those two players? Is there twenty five picks worth of

552
00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:01.960
difference? Yeah, Zach Gelloff is
going fifty five picks later than hass On

553
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:08.280
Kim. Yeah, the pick strata
relatively safe, boring pick right, he's

554
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:12.119
going at one forty three. So
you got this. You've got a host

555
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.199
of options there, you know,
Hey, I like hass On Kim.

556
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:20.239
I like him a lot. The
multi position eligibility for me, that counts

557
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.000
okay, And that's one of the
reasons I boosted him up a little bit,

558
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:28.599
a little bit higher. But you
just got You've got so many options

559
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.840
and so many choices at second base, in the middle, infield. Why

560
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.119
would you why pay? I get
Marcus Semians a great player, as is

561
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:42.440
Aussie Albi's. But is is there
one hundred picks worth of difference between those

562
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:45.199
players? Yeah? I don't think
so. The only concern I have with

563
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:49.239
has On Kim is looking I've got
his data called up. I he's definitely

564
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:53.039
fast and he's a great hitter.
I mean hardly chases it all really strikes

565
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:58.360
out all that walks a ton,
Yet he doesn't have a ton of power.

566
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:02.280
I mean heart hit rates three percent, exit average exulasi is seven percent,

567
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:07.199
so his expected slug is in the
upper three hundred. So that I'm

568
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.400
not sure where the seventeen home runs
came from, but it could be more

569
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:15.280
like the eleven home runs. But
at the speed is that clearly there,

570
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:19.079
So it could it could be more
of a ten to fifteen home run guy,

571
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.119
twenty five plus stolen base guy who
can hit. So that might be

572
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:27.360
the player that you're looking at as
opposed to big power and speed that that

573
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.000
last year might have showed. Well. Yeah, and the fact that he's

574
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:35.679
eligible at third base and shortstop in
addition to second base, Yeah that helps.

575
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:38.199
Yeah. Yeah, he's gonna play. He's on a he's on a

576
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:45.440
real team friendly contract. And you
know, I wouldn't be at all surprised

577
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:47.840
if Hassan Kim has moved at some
point in time, because I believe he's

578
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:52.639
got an opto it at the end
of this year. And I think it's

579
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.599
like seven million bucks on the Yeah
it is seven million. Yeah, it's

580
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:01.280
five four year, seven seven million
apiece something like that. Yeah, it's

581
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:05.360
a very good contract. So it'll
be interesting to see what the Padres do

582
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.679
with Kim. Yeah, I would
think you get here's top five according to

583
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:14.599
ten and it's somewhat chalk with where
their ADPs are currently set in Mookie Betts,

584
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:19.880
Marcus simeon Ozzi, Alvi's Jose Altuve, Matt McClain. Look, I

585
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.760
love Jose alto Timmy, you know
that, but with the options that are

586
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:30.559
at second base, man, I
find it a real struggle to take To

587
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:35.880
take Jose Altuv in the top three
four rounds, I agree, I agree

588
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:40.559
totally. But at the same point
in time, watch him very carefully because

589
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:46.159
once you get into fifties sixties,
it moves down a little bit. Oh

590
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:51.840
yeah, if he if he falls
okay, and there's there's good reason that

591
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.119
he could fall okay, then he
could become a bargain, a potential bar

592
00:45:55.599 --> 00:46:00.239
Yeah. He did not fall in
the draft I'm in he was taking the

593
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.159
third round, third pick, so
what is that thirty five? Yeah,

594
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:08.719
so he went thirty three. Yeah, so he went pretty early. Yeah,

595
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:13.239
I wouldn't touch him in that range. Yeah, I just think I

596
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:17.119
mean dropped down one hundred picks.
Yeah, this is a guy that's got

597
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:22.079
jose L t V statue out my
front law and so it's not a huge

598
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:27.440
Josey al A fan. Matt McClean, do you think it's it's it's a

599
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.480
growth season for him this year?
Does he take a step back? What

600
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:39.880
are you thinking? I think Matt
McLean could be could move up one spot.

601
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:45.519
How is that? Is he going
to touch the number? You're looking

602
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:50.519
at a growth spot? The problem
problem is, yeah, he could pass

603
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:54.559
Hosel TV. There's that sort of
potential, But is he going to be

604
00:46:55.760 --> 00:47:00.039
this year up there with Bets and
Semi and and Albi's probably not right.

605
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:07.039
So you're looking at a situation where
Matt McClean is fairly locked in, I

606
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:12.480
would think, and that's through no
fault of his jay the elite level of

607
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.360
second base. They're elite for a
reason, right, And it's a big

608
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:21.519
step up into the Alby, Semi
and Betts grouping. As far as I'm

609
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.440
concerned, Matt McLean's a fine player. There's only one thing that's missing on

610
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:32.599
his resume, and that's only because
he's a young player, just came into

611
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:37.880
the league last year. As I
said, the resume might be short,

612
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.679
but the skills or anything. But
I like Matt McLean a lot, So

613
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.639
I was I like Matt McClain was
in the minor leagues. I saw him

614
00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:50.440
of the Fall League in twenty twenty
two. It was okay for me.

615
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:53.840
Look, it was just okay.
He's fast, there's no question. I

616
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:58.280
mean, it's nineteenth percentile. But
there's still a lot of swing and miss

617
00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:00.360
in this game. So, I
mean, that's the one thing that it

618
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:04.519
didn't have a bab at a three
eighty five. So, I mean,

619
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:07.039
so there is some concern about how
much you'll hit, but it looks like

620
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:10.920
really good eggs of velocity. Hard
hit rates are solid. He's fast,

621
00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.960
so the only thing I don't think
the two ninety average sticks, but it

622
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.679
could be more of a two fifty
guy with twenty twenty. I mean,

623
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:22.599
that's that would be my only caution. Just be careful when you when you

624
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:27.199
people type in how much what his
batting average is going to be. But

625
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:31.880
yeah, he's a fine player after
that. Yeah, and I share your

626
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:36.199
thoughts. As far as the Arizona
Fall League. I wasn't overly impressed either.

627
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.760
Yeah, maybe he was tired a
long year whatever, but you didn't

628
00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:42.920
play all that well in that season. Something clicked for him last year.

629
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.039
Now we could say last year.
That's twenty twenty three, So something clicked

630
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:51.039
for him last season. And I
mean good on him. I mean first

631
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:52.760
round draft pick, and it looks
like he's going to be I have a

632
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:58.519
really good major league career. So
yeah, and again he's shortstop eligible.

633
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:04.199
That doesn't hurt at all. Absolutely, Six through ten, you've got Nico

634
00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:09.960
Horner, Glaber, Torres, Andres
Zeminez, and Kutel Marte, Hassinken,

635
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:15.199
Nico Horner, Glabra, Torus,
Andres, Zeminez and Marte. Out of

636
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:21.159
those five, give me a guy
that you feel like has got some upside

637
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:24.800
and a guy that you feel like
might You wouldn't be surprised if he goes

638
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:37.599
the other direction down. Nico Horner
really impressed me. Again, he's a

639
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.239
top ten stolen base threat, and
I think there could be a bit more

640
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:45.960
there. It wouldn't shock me at
all of Nico Horner stole fifty bases,

641
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:50.199
maybe hit twelve, twelve to fifteen
home runs. He had ten home runs

642
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:54.239
last year. Okay, it wouldn't
surprise me if he got up to twelve,

643
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:59.039
fifteen and close to fifty. That
moves him up the charts a little

644
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:04.360
bit. So Eco Horner And when
I look at the players on this list,

645
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:08.840
he never he never strikes out.
Yeah, yeah, it's when you

646
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:13.000
know your Horner. You could be
looking at a hundred runs scored. In

647
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:16.760
addition to that, the rest of
the players like Taurus rather say for other

648
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:21.440
boring rather steady. I think him
and as the same thing. You know,

649
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:24.599
another one of those mid teen power
bats, twenty five to thirty stolen

650
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:31.280
bases, Katel Marte. He would
be the one player that I wouldn't be

651
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:37.519
shocked if he fell, but I
don't think he's going to. I think

652
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:45.280
he the one stat that really impressed
me last year's he did something different.

653
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:49.800
He started taking walks and he elevated
them to a career high of seventy one

654
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:55.760
last year. Tossing the power,
the home run RBIs on an improving Yeah.

655
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.440
How much of a difference is Corbett
Carroll really made to that diamondback offense.

656
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:07.400
I think it's huge and I think
k Marte is part of part of

657
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.440
that. Corbyn Carrol, I don't
know what you called syndrome or there,

658
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.119
you know what I mean, hey, guys, syndrome that's uses like the

659
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:22.800
China syndrome negative. But whatever works
for you exactly. That's very funny.

660
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:30.360
I do think that a player of
Corbyn Carroll's skill set can elevate a team

661
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:37.079
because he gets on base and the
pitcher and catcher have got to be distracted.

662
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:39.119
Tommy. I mean, it's like
you got this guy that that can

663
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:45.199
steal a steal, second, steal
third somewhat at will, and it just

664
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:47.400
is going to make it easier for
the guys that are following after him to

665
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:51.519
get better pitches. Right, They're
gonna be more fastballs because you throw a

666
00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:53.840
curveball. It just gives him an
extra split second ticket to second base.

667
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:59.800
Well, Marty benefit from that,
yes, as I think Walker did is

668
00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:04.280
well, so you know, and
now you've got you Junior Suarez, who's

669
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.000
always been able to hit for big
home run numbers in that par getting behind

670
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:15.079
all three. So yeah, I
again, I'd be surprised if he does

671
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:20.199
fall. But again, Marte did
produce his second best season as a prob.

672
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:22.639
Yeah, but he's had some stinker
seasons too. I mean, he

673
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:27.519
gets these really good seasons and then
the next then he doesn't live up to

674
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.239
what head. But I've looked at
his data. That data actually looks pretty

675
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:32.719
good. So I mean, let's
take a break it back and do the

676
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:36.360
next five. We've got to get
over to. I got all kinds of

677
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:52.719
windows open here. Here we go
back here. In the off season,

678
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:55.400
Lorie and I watch a lot of
television. We watch a lot of television

679
00:52:55.599 --> 00:53:01.639
just we think television has gotten to
a level that's just unparalleled in our history.

680
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:06.599
It's so so many good TV shows
out there with all the new networks

681
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:09.159
broadcasting. So we just finished up
Ted Lasso. I don't know if you've

682
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:12.599
heard of that. Have you heard
of It's on Apple TV. It's about

683
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:16.039
the coach and he's a guy that
knew nothing about soccer and moved to the

684
00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:20.239
England and became a soccer player.
It's a comedy. It's very very good.

685
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:23.480
So we just finished that and we
had friends of him for the week

686
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:29.159
and didn't watch any TV. So
last night decided do we start a new

687
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:32.920
TV series or do we watch something
else? So we decided to watch something

688
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:38.199
else, Tim and you know what
it was. I haven't a clue.

689
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:45.280
We became. We decided let's watch
the Barbie movie. Have you heard of

690
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:49.000
the Barbie movie? TV? Tim, I'm on Twitter? How could you

691
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:52.639
get movie? Have you seen it? No? I haven't, No,

692
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:58.639
Tim. It was brutal. I
hated it, and I know that.

693
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:00.880
I don't know. Maybe that makes
me shallow because everybody was saying, how

694
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:05.199
great of it is? Great a
movie it is. It's it's very it

695
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:09.519
has a great feminist kind of twinge
to it. But I've seen like Lessons

696
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:15.559
in Chemistry is much better thematic that
that supports women's rights and so forth.

697
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:21.440
But the Barbie thing was just annoying, Timmy. It was terrible. Yeah.

698
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:25.440
I hey, eventually, at some
point in time, okay, I

699
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:30.719
will, I will get around to
watching it. But it's not on my

700
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:35.639
wait till you see it, Timmy. It's it's inane. It's an and

701
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:39.519
they shove the messaging, the themes
down your throat. I mean it's like,

702
00:54:39.639 --> 00:54:42.519
Okay, I got it, I
got it. I got it.

703
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.239
Men are awful. I got it. I got it. But it was

704
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:51.119
it just Yeah, they take Ryan
Goss and look plain old, creepy and

705
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:54.559
a good looking guy, and they
made him like bleach blonde and ah enough

706
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:59.880
already I hated it. Absolutely hated
it. Here's a recommendation for you.

707
00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:06.599
Okay, what's that give? Give
this a spy h Midsummer Murders, Midsummer

708
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.559
Murders, Tim's Watson a TV show. Yes, it's just made in the

709
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:16.159
in the seventies eighties as well.
Actually this this, it's it's it's like

710
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:22.519
a series. They run about six
shows a year. Okay, the running

711
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:25.880
time on them is an hour and
a half to about an hour. And

712
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:36.000
Midsummer Murders Midsummer Mysteries. It's an
English show that commenced in March of nineteen

713
00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:40.880
ninety seven and is still running.
Oh, by by Agatha Christie. They're

714
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:47.960
books by Agatha Christie. It says
it might be might be based based on

715
00:55:49.199 --> 00:55:54.519
that, but uh, excellent show. Oh, Midsummer Murders, Midsummer Summer.

716
00:55:54.800 --> 00:55:59.719
Yeah, Midsummer Murders. Because Midsummer
Mysteries is an Agatha Christie. Yeah,

717
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:02.519
Oh, I see it's it's I've
seen the woman who stars on it

718
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:07.960
before. She's uh, she looks
familiar to me. Actually, the as

719
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:13.639
you go through, we're in year
sixteen right now, and there are numerous

720
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:20.000
cast changes throughout. But it's an
extremely well written Oh I'm glad you told

721
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.559
me about that. I love how
they spell summer s O M E R.

722
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:28.559
So it's midsummer is the community?
Oh yeah, I suppose I thought

723
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:30.360
it was midsummer as an s U
M M E R. Right. So,

724
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:35.280
but that's like that. Let's see
where where can I've watched that streaming?

725
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:42.039
Uh? Where do we watch Midsummer
Murders? Jody? Oh, it's

726
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:45.000
Amazon Prime? Yeah, Amazon Prime? Yeah, there we go, there

727
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:49.360
we go, all right, don
like dinner, Tim, Yeah, it's

728
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.880
not. It's not nineteen it's twenty
four seasons. Good lord, Tim,

729
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:59.039
That'll take me some years to get
through. It's well done, very okay,

730
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:02.400
I'm excited. I'm excited about it. It's not a blood and gore,

731
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:08.519
is it. No, there is
some but yeah, there's even even

732
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:12.760
a little bit of nudity. They
warn you that there's tobacco and alcohol.

733
00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:20.920
It's yeah, it's a little risk. It's it's not it's not restricted.

734
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.960
No, definitely not because I couldn't
make it. I'm one of the few

735
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:30.159
people that probably listened to our podcast
who could not make it through Game of

736
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:34.199
Thrones. It just didn't me and
to them, I mean, it was

737
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:37.719
just enough already. I mean it
was I mean I didn't think I was

738
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:42.440
approved. Maybe I am. I
saw more naked women and more people killed

739
00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:46.920
in ten episodes, and I have
in an entire watching in my history of

740
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:52.559
watching television. It was amazing.
Yeah. No, this this series has

741
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.960
a tendency. It'll keep you there
till the last five to ten minutes of

742
00:57:55.039 --> 00:58:04.039
the show because it takes that law
to be able to determine what has actually

743
00:58:04.159 --> 00:58:08.440
occurred in the first ninety minutes.
Okay, as to who is who is

744
00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:13.760
guilty and the reasons behind it,
and it's it's well, it's a it's

745
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:15.440
a who. It's a who done
it? Who does who? It's a

746
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:17.679
who done it? Yeah, all
right, well, well, well well

747
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:22.320
we will give it a shot,
Timmy, and yeah, I'm sure you

748
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:29.239
enjoy it. Let's let's move on
back to second base. Jean ciscl uh,

749
00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:34.960
who's the other guy that Roger Rogert
Roger? Yeah, maybe that's what

750
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:38.320
ha our next uh, our next
lives. We'll do a Ciskel and Ebert

751
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:42.119
kind of take off there. Anyway
to me, I got number eleven,

752
00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.119
got brysons dot down to from where
he's going in the NFC. Zach Goeloff

753
00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:52.599
Chalk and thyrou Estrada, Nolan Gorman
you like to better. And then Tommy

754
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.760
Edmand tell me about Nolan Gorman.
What are you expecting from him this season?

755
00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:01.400
I'm expecting a lot of home runs. No stolen bases though, No,

756
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:06.880
No, the speed game isn't there. But the kid's got a lot

757
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:10.159
of power, raw power. Oh
yeah, he's young, and when you

758
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:15.679
at second base, he's sort of
an anomaly, isn't he. Yeah,

759
00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:22.840
because it's kind of back Dan.
It's like Dan against Yeah, there we

760
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:28.440
there we go, and that's a
Greek comp. Yeah, Uglow is a

761
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:32.320
really good ballplayer for an extended period. When you're right six hundred and sixteen

762
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:37.079
capsules to me, you start to
compare players to a lot of guys.

763
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:42.000
So I've used the danger comp many
times. Yeah, he offers he offers

764
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.320
you something different than the second base. Yeah, outside of the norm.

765
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:50.000
You know, Hey, if if
you have your hey, the guy picking

766
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.559
in your league, he's got Ronald
Lacune right off the bat, right,

767
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:59.920
Hey, you've you've you've got yourself
what forty stolen bases probably with your guy.

768
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.840
Okay, if you don't need stolen
bases at your middle infield position.

769
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:10.679
He presents an intriguing option and that
he could be. Looking at this list

770
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:15.320
of players, he could be a
top three home run back. Oh yeah,

771
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:19.199
that's at second base. But he
also could hit. He also could

772
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:22.559
hit two twenty well, he did
hit twenty one year two twenty two,

773
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:24.760
thirty six. He's not gonna he's
not gonna help your batting average at all.

774
01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:30.360
No, he's not. But if
you're looking at a power option,

775
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:37.159
it's intriguing. And again on how
you built your team, right, yeah,

776
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:42.880
so yeah, I I hey,
I based on what I've seen,

777
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.559
I think he could be a twenty
five thirty home run guy for the next

778
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:51.360
five to ten years. Big power
is he was always kind of comped to

779
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:54.000
Joey Gallo. I think he actually
makes a little bit better contact than Joey

780
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:59.719
Gallo does. So yeah, Noela
Gorman's done more than I thought he would.

781
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:04.719
I'm actually pretty impressed. Zach Geloff, Tim as you right, I

782
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:09.039
mean, great rookie start fourteen home
runs, but he plays for the A's.

783
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:14.880
I mean, does that does that
give you Pauls when you're selecting second

784
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:19.440
base, you know, do I
want somebody that's got a terrible lineup around

785
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:23.920
them. Well, twenty twenty is
twenty twenty, right, Hey, the

786
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:28.360
RBIs could be a little suppressed,
the run score could be a little suppressed,

787
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:34.119
but it's still a twenty twenty type
player carries weight even in open Okay,

788
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:37.719
okay, uh Bryson Stott? What
little down on Bryson Stot or it's

789
01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:44.760
just not really just the way the
cookie crumbled here. Well, you know,

790
01:01:45.239 --> 01:01:50.599
you start looking at the NFBC ADPs, right, yeah, and Taurus

791
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:53.199
is at ninety six. I mean
this is one nineteen, Marte is one

792
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:58.800
twenty one, Stott is one oh
five. They're they're all in the same

793
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:00.280
area. Okay, yea, yeah, if you want to if you want

794
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:04.519
to move Bryce and start up to
where I mean has has flipped them around.

795
01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:07.719
I got no problems with that at
all. Yeah, that's what so

796
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:10.559
just it's just happenstance, you know, one up, two down kind of

797
01:02:10.639 --> 01:02:15.920
thing. Yeah, it's it's much
the same as looking at Albi's versus Semi.

798
01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:21.000
Okay, you say, you say
Alby's is number two, and I'm

799
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:22.480
gonna say, good for you.
I got no problems with that, got

800
01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:28.280
it? Sixth sixty the twenty we
got Brandon Drury, Jorge Polanka, Lewis

801
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:34.800
Arise, Jonathan Indy and then Ryan
McMahon. Now Brandon Drury, Timmy,

802
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:42.280
What is the difference between Brandon Drury
and Nolan Gorman. H I'm gonna guess

803
01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:47.960
at seven years so age well,
and the fact that I think Gorman is

804
01:02:49.039 --> 01:02:52.840
on a little bit better team now
Drury to you know, as as a

805
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:58.400
positive is hitting in the three spot. M hmm, okay, Mike Troutz

806
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:01.159
hitting in the two spots. Somebody's
got to drive trowed in right, Yeah,

807
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:07.039
yeh chalk could score fifty runs too, as long as three drives them

808
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:13.679
all in. Who okay, Yeah. I've always liked DREI he last year

809
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.960
was he was eligible all over the
field. But he's a cheap power source.

810
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:22.639
Well, you know, twenty two
he had twenty eight home runs,

811
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:27.280
drove in eighty seven to sixty three
batting average. Last year twenty six home

812
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.840
runs eighty three RBIs at two sixty
two batting average. I think he's a

813
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:36.039
little undervalued, and I bumped him
up accordingly. I think if you're looking

814
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:45.440
for again a power hitting second baseman, I think he could be top five

815
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:51.039
to six and home runs, RBIs
out of the group and to be able

816
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:53.559
to get him right now at two
thirty two. Hey, I'd like Dreary

817
01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:58.280
a lot. I'm I could see
him being on a fair number of my

818
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:02.119
of my team's next year. Yeah, I think I think he's a little

819
01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:06.320
safer than Nolan Gormant. I think
the power upside with Gorman is much higher,

820
01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:10.159
but there's more risk. I mean, you know, he could he

821
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:14.519
could hit two twenty. Brandon Dury's
gonna hit to sixty and hit twenty five

822
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:17.280
home runs. That's what he's gonna
do unless he's hurt. And you know,

823
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.239
the way I've got them ranked is
that you know, I got Gorman

824
01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:24.159
at fourteen and I got Drury of
sixteen. Right, you want to you

825
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:26.719
want to flip them for the risk
factor. I got no problems with that.

826
01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:30.519
But they're they're going forty slots between
each other. And yeah, so

827
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.239
that's you know, good two to
three rounds. Who hate Polanco? You

828
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:39.440
love yourself? Some more hate Polanco? Explain yourself, mister McLeod. All

829
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:45.039
he needs is one thing, health
and he hasn't had it the past two

830
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:50.360
years. And I get it.
But how far do you when you start

831
01:04:50.440 --> 01:04:59.280
looking at a player like that,
if I'm not mistaken. His last full

832
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:08.000
season, Okay, his last full
season, he hit thirty three home runs,

833
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:12.280
drove in ninety eight, stole eleven
bases. Thirty three sounds right,

834
01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:15.239
that sounds yeah, that sounds familiar. Well, you know, you go

835
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:19.199
to twenty twenty two and you know, three hundred and seventy five at bats,

836
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:25.199
sixteen home runs. Okay, last
year, three hundred and two at

837
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:30.880
bats, fourteen home runs. I
think you've got the potential there for a

838
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:35.880
twenty five to thirty home run,
eighty five RBI, six to eight stolen

839
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:40.800
base type player. Now, all
he's got to do is stay on the

840
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:45.079
field. He hasn't the past two
years. But is there any reason to

841
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:49.000
think that he can't bounce back and
get in a full season next year.

842
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:53.840
I your guess is as good as
mine, But I'm gonna guess that he

843
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:59.159
rebounds and has at least four hundred
and seventy five at bats, which again

844
01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:04.639
elevates his obvious draft position. For
me, Hey, if I if I'm

845
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:10.440
if I'm wrong in my estimations,
If you're looking at a player that's going

846
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:15.559
off the board in the early mid
teen rounds. Is that a disaster?

847
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:18.679
No, you'll find somebody else to
replace them. Yeah, I think that's

848
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:21.199
there, So Lewis Arrise, I
mean, it's not a whole lot to

849
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:26.000
say there. I mean, I
if you if you short on batting average,

850
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:30.400
that's where you go. Yeah,
exactly three fifty four batting average,

851
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.880
three ninety three OVP. Yeah,
you're gonna pencil in I think a three

852
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:39.880
twenty batting average and a three seventy
five, three eighty OVP. He had

853
01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:44.119
ten home runs yeah last year?
Yeah, nothing wrong. I you know,

854
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:47.719
hey, if we were looking at
Louise or Rise and he had two

855
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:50.320
to three home runs, I'd probably
have him down a little bit lower.

856
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:55.079
But yeah, there's a big difference
between two three and ten. Right,

857
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:58.119
what do we do about Jonathan India
team? This is a guy is a

858
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:02.280
good baseball player, but he has
Heyes, you can't draft him expecting he's

859
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:06.480
going to get full time of bats
on January tewod Right, you can't do

860
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:15.480
that, or you can't draft Cees
Well, yes, I think outside of

861
01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:20.360
led La Cruz and Matt McClain,
I'm not sure you touch the other things

862
01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:24.760
yet. In early draft you just
say I'm sorry, I can't go there.

863
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:30.079
That would be the smart play.
Yes, I think India though,

864
01:07:31.039 --> 01:07:33.960
if they want to move him,
they got to play him right. If

865
01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:38.880
he's on the roster, if he
breaks camp as a member of the Reds,

866
01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:43.440
he could he could hold value.
They're not gonna, They're not gonna.

867
01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:46.480
They're not gonna sit him on the
bench because if they want to trade

868
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:49.719
him, he's got to produce something, right, Yeah, yes, So

869
01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:54.760
what do you do? I hey, you're looking at pick two oh seven.

870
01:07:55.239 --> 01:07:59.360
I've got him at nineteen. NBC's
sitting at seventeen. Yeah. Last

871
01:07:59.400 --> 01:08:02.039
year it was a down year,
but he still hit seventeen still fourteen bas

872
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:05.800
he scored seventy eight runs in four
hundred and fifty four bets. Down,

873
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:10.280
Yes, but not gone. Yeah, he was one of He is one

874
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:13.679
of my targets at second base,
and I like the player. It's just

875
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:15.239
it's tough at the moment. I
mean, if you take a look at

876
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:19.159
the data, he supports a guy
that should be taking sooner. But you

877
01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:21.920
take a look at the plane time
and there's big question marks. I mean,

878
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:26.159
it's take a go ahead. I
was just gonna say, yeah,

879
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:31.279
maybe they'll trade him to the White
Sox for Dylan cease. Yeah maybe maybe

880
01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:36.479
the uh but I heard that the
White Sox want pitchers back in return for

881
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:42.359
Dylan Sees, which really good luck, good luck. Yeah, well that

882
01:08:42.439 --> 01:08:45.760
means he's going to the Dodger.
So that's the case, because they'll ship

883
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:48.079
back all those guys we talked about
last week or twenty five years old.

884
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:53.479
Sit back a couple of them.
Yeah. Yeah, give me a Gavin

885
01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:56.359
Stone and a River Ryan and a
you know, you know, a young

886
01:08:56.479 --> 01:09:00.920
kid, you know, pick number
guy ranked number twelve, and it's a

887
01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.880
done deal, right because you get
two years of Dylan Sees. Right.

888
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:06.920
Yeah, to me, let's take
a break and get back, and let's

889
01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:19.800
start jumping around because the next round
is the guy's timbers. This is where

890
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:25.079
I'm fishing temp and this next this
is this is your fishing hole. This

891
01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:29.399
is my fishing hole. Man.
I'm going bottom fishing a little bit here

892
01:09:29.520 --> 01:09:32.720
for second base. But I love
myself at twenty one, Edgewardo Julian,

893
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:38.159
I love Jordan Westburg. Uh.
Brandon Lowe at twenty three. It's not

894
01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:40.600
a bad player. I mean he
is. What he is at twenty four

895
01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:45.279
is Lewis rahiefo twenty five. Zach
mcentry with Miryfield scares me a little bit

896
01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:49.000
at twenty six, Gavin Lux at
twenty seven. Heroldo Perdoma is a good

897
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:55.000
player. I know you love Taylor
Walls, and he's probably gonna play because

898
01:09:55.039 --> 01:09:59.720
I doubt the uh, well they
might. They gotta have somebody play shortstop,

899
01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:01.119
and it's not going to be let's
face it, it's not going to

900
01:10:01.159 --> 01:10:04.680
be wonderfront going. Then you got
the affable Jeff McNeil, and that's where

901
01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:09.880
I'll break it off before we get
the Jeff McNeil. But tell me about

902
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:13.920
Jordan Westburg. You got him ranked
pretty high here. Well, hey,

903
01:10:14.600 --> 01:10:17.600
he's playing on a great team.
I think he's got some serious skills.

904
01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:20.840
He's also eligible with third base.
I like Westburg. I think he's got

905
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:25.600
a great future in Philadelphia. I'd
be nice to be bad at higher in

906
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:28.239
the order, but you look at
the order and that ain't gonna happen,

907
01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:30.720
right, So you take what you're
gonna get. But you look at Julian,

908
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:36.439
you look at Westburgh. Westburgh.
Yeah, even Renifo and Zach McKinstry,

909
01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:40.960
they're both going to play full time. Reneefo's their their lead up bat

910
01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:45.399
and I think he hit sixteen runs
last year, scored a bunch. McKinstry

911
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:47.920
had a nice season with Meryfield.
Yeah, I'm down on Meryfield. He's

912
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:50.600
getting older. He hasn't signed with
the team yet. I'm a little concerned.

913
01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:56.680
The stolen bases were down, But
Perdomo Taylor Walls, he stole twenty

914
01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:00.000
plus bases playing part time last year, didn't he. Yeah, yeah,

915
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:05.199
there's your full time there's your full
time shortstop for the Rais heading into this

916
01:11:05.359 --> 01:11:12.680
year. So there's there's a host
of intriguing options between twenty one and thirty

917
01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:16.239
and all could hold value. Actually, there's options down to about thirty,

918
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:21.960
down to about forty that could hold
some serious value depending on how rosters shaked

919
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:26.800
down. Yeah, I think if
I can just give a plug for Zwardo

920
01:11:26.920 --> 01:11:30.319
Julianne, he struck out thirty one
percent of the time. I'm going on

921
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:35.359
memory. I'll have his data up, but you know, I nothing ever

922
01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:41.000
that he has done in the minor
league suggested that poor of contact. He

923
01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:44.079
is hitting at the top of the
lineup because he he walks a ton.

924
01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:46.760
I mean, there could be some
passivity that he's gotten. I think that

925
01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:49.439
gets shaken out. I think he's
the guy that's going to hit with some

926
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:51.880
pop, ye, a little bit
of speed. So I think he's a

927
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:56.399
good player if you want to wait
late. Yeah, I think the potential

928
01:11:56.439 --> 01:11:59.239
is there. The only thing that
concerns me a bit about Julian is if

929
01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:02.560
you look a little deeper, three
of the three months where he was basically

930
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:06.760
paying full time, one of those
months was truly outstanding. But I think

931
01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:11.680
he had like an eight hundred babbit
that month. Yeah, So I don't

932
01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:15.119
know how much how much of those
of the overall was driven by that one

933
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:21.960
really really good month. But I
I like him. But when I look

934
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:30.119
at the options at second base,
if I got stuck with Westbrook or an

935
01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:32.079
EFO as a middle infielder, I'd
be okay with that. So I'm not

936
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:38.960
I liked Julian, but I'm not
prepared to bump him up the board because

937
01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:42.359
I think you got enough options.
Why why would you want to? Yeah,

938
01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:45.399
you know what I mean, unless
you truly believe that he's he's going

939
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:49.000
to be a great player. There's
there's a slew of options in here that

940
01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:54.520
can provide value. Yeah, I
just I just think second base is so

941
01:12:54.680 --> 01:13:00.039
deep, I mean, pick up
short stops and you take your it takes.

942
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:02.720
I mean again, Brandon Drury is
not a sexy name at all.

943
01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:06.760
But if you've got stolen bases locked
up like someone like I do you know,

944
01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:12.399
I mean, I got Bobby Wood
and Michael Harris and I'm gonna get

945
01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:15.760
more stolen bases and a sudden Brandon
Drur becomes pretty interesting as a late round

946
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:20.920
grab. Well, yeah, you're
looking at two thirty five, you're looking

947
01:13:20.920 --> 01:13:25.239
at seventeen to five ten, you're
looking at a fifteenth round, sixteenth round

948
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:30.920
pick. Yeah, give me twenty
eight homers. Okay, I I had

949
01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:34.920
a pick in the mid teens.
Yeah, exactly. There are so many

950
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:39.800
options, so many different ways to
play the middle infield, and they can

951
01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:44.399
all be successful because of the depth
at the position. Bryce Ter ranked him.

952
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:46.960
I think it is a bit of
a disappointment last season. Well,

953
01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:50.640
fault Of is a guy that I
think has the job. Yeah, what

954
01:13:50.760 --> 01:14:00.640
do you think of him? Yep? He does uh down shifting on simply

955
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:04.840
because I I liked what I saw
as far as the speed. He stole

956
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:12.720
twenty six bases, okay, but
he only hit six home runs. Okay.

957
01:14:13.159 --> 01:14:15.239
Now if this was five years ago, I'd probably have Terrang up about

958
01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:19.359
eight slots because the twenty six stolen
bases would carry a lot more value.

959
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:24.920
You know, five years ago,
as compared to today, twenty six stolen

960
01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:28.439
bases does not carry enough value for
me to have him ranked high. Right

961
01:14:28.520 --> 01:14:31.039
now, he doesn't. That's that's
why I've got it. Yeah, he's

962
01:14:31.119 --> 01:14:33.520
fast, and that's why I've got
him at thirty one. He's got some

963
01:14:33.640 --> 01:14:38.000
of the worst exit velocities in all
of base wall. He just does not

964
01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:41.520
hit the ball very hard at all. I don't even know where the six

965
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:44.880
runs came from. I mean it's
it's I mean, the data does not

966
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:47.720
support a guy that's going to hit
with any level of power. I think

967
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:53.560
that's a little concerning. Plus,
I mean sluts three ten. Yeah,

968
01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:59.920
you know, if the Brewers didn't
have Andrew Monasterio penciled in at third base,

969
01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:05.039
I'd probably have Bryce Terng ranked even
lower, because I think Ty Black

970
01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:10.000
is going to be on the Brewers
roster. Come come me, and right

971
01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:14.399
now it looks like third base is
the best offer. Black primarily played third

972
01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:16.000
base last season. Yes, yes, but he you know, hey,

973
01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:20.600
if Terrag really struggles there's nothing to
say, and Monasterio hits, there's nothing

974
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:24.520
to say that ty Black is up
at second base, right, yep,

975
01:15:27.319 --> 01:15:31.079
maybe I think they want to play
well. I think Tyler Black would work

976
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:32.960
better at second base. I don't
think he has a great arm, but

977
01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:38.439
he played pretty well there in the
minor leagues last season, so that's why

978
01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:41.640
they played him there. So maybe
he can come up as a third baseman.

979
01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:45.840
But I think if if Mantasterio,
which I don't believe, can play

980
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:50.239
third base, then Black definitely could
come in at second. I'm with you,

981
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:56.000
I'm a little disappointed in terrang and
when you see the data, it's

982
01:15:56.199 --> 01:16:00.880
just just no no power there at
all. Supports your level of disappointments,

983
01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:03.600
which yeah, I mean it's like, yeah, like when you see it

984
01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:08.960
in baseball, you're worried about the
bat speed to begin with an MC in

985
01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.159
a baseball savanna, it's like the
yikes. So to me, it's it's

986
01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:15.600
a it's a no bueno. I
know, I don't want to I do

987
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:18.039
like Leova Proguera. I know you've
got to rank a little bit higher.

988
01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:23.359
I know he plays for the Pittsburgh
Pirates. That means he stinks, but

989
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:26.960
I mean I think that I think
he's I've always liked the player. I

990
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.800
think there's I think there's something there. Yeah, I I do as well.

991
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:36.119
And hey, it looks like he's
got the job, and with the

992
01:16:36.279 --> 01:16:40.640
job comes opportunities. And I don't
need to give you the I don't need

993
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:43.680
to give you the rest of that
story, do I? So, no,

994
01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:47.079
you do not let me. But
having said that, yes, Brendan

995
01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:51.520
Rodgers has the job, and you
hate Brendan Rodgers him. You have him

996
01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:57.359
ranked forty seventh, fourteen lower than
he's going off with the NFC at UH

997
01:16:57.560 --> 01:17:00.199
and he's going off at five thirty
four, so you've got him pro me

998
01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:02.520
more in the six hundreds. Why
do you hate Brendan Rodgers went up?

999
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:12.520
Supposedly he has the job? Well, because he's still good. I was

1000
01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:17.039
gonna look for something a little bit
more politically motivated. But yeah, twenty

1001
01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:20.680
twenty two was a full season,
okay. Yeah, he had thirteen homers

1002
01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:25.640
and he drove in sixty three playing
half his games in course. Okay,

1003
01:17:25.960 --> 01:17:30.199
Yeah, he struck out one hundred
one times five hundred and twenty seven at

1004
01:17:30.239 --> 01:17:35.600
bats translated. Yeah, it's it's
not it's not good last last year,

1005
01:17:35.880 --> 01:17:40.119
you know, in two one hundred
and seventy eight at bats, he had

1006
01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:44.800
four home runs. He struck out
forty one times. Like, I'm sorry,

1007
01:17:44.880 --> 01:17:48.439
I'm not buying into Brendan Rodgers.
And he's, you know, heading

1008
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:54.439
into his age twenty eight season.
It's it's just not good and another player

1009
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:59.640
that I can't figure out for the
life of me. Okay, and maybe

1010
01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:05.079
I'll be wrong on this one,
but Brendan Donovan likely I don't get it.

1011
01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:12.199
I just don't get it. They've
done as high as what twenty six.

1012
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:15.319
I thought at his stack cast,
I'll bring it up now. I

1013
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:18.319
think he hits the ball really hard. Let me bring it up because he

1014
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:21.720
came in. It's funny because you
know, when I do all of this

1015
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:29.119
stuff looking for players, I have
these filters, and Brendan Donovan kept coming

1016
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:31.000
up as Hey, Wilson, take
a look at this guy. Look at

1017
01:18:31.039 --> 01:18:35.079
this guy. And there's a lot
to like. I mean, he's he

1018
01:18:35.359 --> 01:18:40.680
has average speed, but he makes
really good contact. He walks a lot,

1019
01:18:41.079 --> 01:18:44.159
he's got good eggs a velocity.
He's a bit of a ground ball

1020
01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:45.800
hitter, so he doesn't hit the
ball much in the air, but I

1021
01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:50.199
can understand why some people would like
this guy. The data supports that there's

1022
01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:56.159
something in here, but I couldn't
bring myself to targeting them. So I

1023
01:18:56.239 --> 01:18:59.960
was like Brendan Donovan. Yeah,
well, and you know, on top

1024
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:05.600
top of that, you know he's
begun a throwing program, coming off starting

1025
01:19:05.680 --> 01:19:14.640
his rehab after undergoing flexor tendon surgery
in August. That's another warning for me.

1026
01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:17.840
Sorry, I'm passing on Donovan.
I'll want something else. I will

1027
01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:23.520
say the data supports a two eighty
five, three sixty five what he did

1028
01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.439
last season. It kind of supports
that, which is what he did in

1029
01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:30.840
twenty twenty two, and it looks
like there could be some upside with home

1030
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:33.359
runs if he added a little bit
of loft. I think the five to

1031
01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:39.760
eight stolen bases is probably real side. I can understand why people as a

1032
01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:43.279
debt. Looks like he's a deadpool
hitter as well, which you know,

1033
01:19:43.439 --> 01:19:46.800
so that's his one weakness. It's
just not a whole lot of power at

1034
01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:50.399
the moment, but the data supports
there could be. So yeah, it's

1035
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:55.000
just with the depth at second base. I ain't tossing no darts in his

1036
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:58.479
direction, all right, Timmy let's
always take a final break it back and

1037
01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:15.000
uh ask you the hard questions here, which player not in the top ten

1038
01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:20.239
has a chance to emerge their next
season? Oh, not in the top

1039
01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:24.760
ten, and who could get there? And don't give me number eleven.

1040
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:30.920
I want to I want a guy
you feel really good about. And then

1041
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:36.239
I want somebody a little bit deeper. Okay, I'm not going with Nolan

1042
01:20:36.319 --> 01:20:41.039
Gorman. Okay, that's good.
Yeah. If he launched, if he

1043
01:20:41.119 --> 01:20:45.199
launches thirty home runs drives in eighty
five this year, yeah, she's gonna

1044
01:20:45.199 --> 01:20:46.880
be in the top ten. Give
me one. That's a little bit.

1045
01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:51.039
Wow. I want, I want
a wow one. I'm looking at the

1046
01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:55.960
wow one. Let's see if you
come up with it, the wow one.

1047
01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:59.520
How deep are we going here?
Rich? I would go in the

1048
01:21:00.039 --> 01:21:09.239
upper twenties, upper twenties. You
know I have branded Drury Yeah, brand

1049
01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:14.720
of Drewry. Yeah. Oh wow. I must think a Jordan Westburg would

1050
01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:18.319
be the guy that I would I
would could possibly see if things start to

1051
01:21:18.359 --> 01:21:20.840
work. That guy is a really
good baseball player. Yeah he is.

1052
01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:27.319
And same with Julian Yeah. Yeah, there's you know, you take a

1053
01:21:27.399 --> 01:21:30.319
look at that group between twenty and
thirty, and yeah, there's three or

1054
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:33.880
four players that are poised to make
a step onwards and upwards. In that

1055
01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:40.439
group. There's just a lot of
talent at second base. There really is.

1056
01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:44.880
There's a slew of options and play
it how you like. You're going

1057
01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:48.239
to get. You're going to get
a good player at second base, one

1058
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:53.880
that will one that will fit the
build for your team, and you can

1059
01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:58.760
you don't have to worry, per
se, okay about what that build is,

1060
01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:01.880
because there's somebody that that'll that'll match
the description of what you're looking for.

1061
01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:06.319
Up to about pick twenty. After
that, there's you get some great

1062
01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:10.520
spectics in there. I forgot,
I mean my haste to put this out,

1063
01:22:10.520 --> 01:22:14.960
I forgot to bring up your last
year's last year's ranking. I'm sorry,

1064
01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:17.199
I've already ignored them. That's old
news. Yeah, no, that's

1065
01:22:17.680 --> 01:22:21.239
a real bummer. So let's see. Well, I gotta I will re

1066
01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:25.359
send that to you, so we
actually have last year's rankings in there.

1067
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:30.319
So but because I'm looking, I
don't think obviously Matt McClain wasn't anywhere on

1068
01:22:30.359 --> 01:22:35.920
this last last season, but Nico
Horner and Hassan Kim both took a step

1069
01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:41.760
up this season. So yeah,
as as did Brayson Stuck and yell Off.

1070
01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:45.399
And I think Geoff could be a
guy that makes it in the top

1071
01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:47.920
ten too. I mean he was
really good. Yeah no, if he

1072
01:22:47.960 --> 01:22:53.880
if he has a twenty twenty plus
season, yeah, yeah he could.

1073
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:59.079
The problem problem is there's not a
lot of players that I could see moving

1074
01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:01.000
over that. Well, that's what. You gotta give me one or two

1075
01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:05.239
that that has a chance and I
want a bit of a surprise. Yeah,

1076
01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:11.119
that's one of them. The easiest
one is Kate el Marte. Okay,

1077
01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:21.680
the other one, uh, if
Hassan Kim is traded, that disrupts,

1078
01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:25.159
Nah, Kim is too good to
a player. I'll go with Glabra

1079
01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:30.119
Taurus. I'm gonna go with Nico
Horner. Yeah, he's got to steal

1080
01:23:30.199 --> 01:23:34.279
forty bases. Yeah yeah, and
yeah if you don't think he's going to

1081
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:38.000
steal forty forty plus, Yeah,
he's a good choice to move out of

1082
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:43.800
that top ten. But there's so
little that differentiates as far as I'm concerned.

1083
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:51.319
You know, picks six through ten
versus ten through fifteen, any of

1084
01:23:51.359 --> 01:23:56.239
them could swing. They really could, because they're that close. You look

1085
01:23:56.239 --> 01:23:59.880
at the ADPs, and for the
most part, they're all pretty tightly bunched.

1086
01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:03.760
Yeah, I mean, I just
again, I think you can wait

1087
01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:09.760
and pick you pick your poison again. If you if you're low on power,

1088
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:13.520
you decided to take a lot of
speed guys up early, maybe a

1089
01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:17.199
Trey Turner, so you get yourself
maybe fifteen sixteen home runs and a lot

1090
01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:20.520
of stolen bases, and all of
a sudden, your spreadsheet, you're tracking

1091
01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:24.199
with your spreadsheet and you're like a
little bit light on power. Go with

1092
01:24:24.279 --> 01:24:29.199
Nolan Gorman as a power hitting second
baseman because you've got some batting average somewhere

1093
01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:30.560
else. I could be a play. Or if you say, hey,

1094
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:33.000
I need I need a lot of
stolen bases there, you know, you

1095
01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:38.439
could go in a different direction there. So yeah, Taylor Taylor Walls playing

1096
01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:42.800
full time could steal thirty bases.
Yeah in its sleeve. Yeah, he's

1097
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:45.920
a fine He's a fine reserve pick, and he'll probably last to the reserve

1098
01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:49.479
rounds in most drafts. Yes,
agreed, All right, Tim, I'm

1099
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:53.319
looking I just I just have to
comment. So you and I are in

1100
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:59.640
the same age brackets. So and
remember, uh K tell records to me

1101
01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:03.760
back in the day were these.
So one of my first purchases in vinyl

1102
01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:09.359
was it was a k Tel record. And that's why you say Katel Marte.

1103
01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:15.039
It's actually Katel Marte. I have
to every time I see coateell Marte,

1104
01:25:15.119 --> 01:25:18.560
I want to say KTOW because I
remember all those albums I own back

1105
01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:23.720
in the day. Yeah, we
were cut from from the same cloth,

1106
01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:28.720
and you were slapping them down listening
to the guitar tracks, and I was

1107
01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:32.279
slapping them down listening to the drum
tracks right, trying to trying to trying

1108
01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:36.079
to copy them and play them.
I'd be a I'd be a much wealthier

1109
01:25:36.159 --> 01:25:40.399
man if I didn't spend all my
money on record albums when I was a

1110
01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:45.319
kid. It's like no comment,
no comment, no comment, all right

1111
01:25:45.359 --> 01:25:46.279
to me. And what everybody wants
to know, Give me a couple of

1112
01:25:46.319 --> 01:25:54.119
sleepers, A couple of sleepers.
I think Org Polon Uncle is underbellued.

1113
01:25:54.720 --> 01:26:00.720
All were missing is help there if
you're looking at sleepers. I like Aguero

1114
01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:04.840
and Pittsburgh, I really do.
I think there's potential there for a much

1115
01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:10.079
better season. You know, I'm
not giving up on David Schneider either.

1116
01:26:10.119 --> 01:26:13.279
Depending on what the Jays do.
If he's got a full time job,

1117
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:17.720
David Schneider could turn into a very
very nice player. I think. I

1118
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:21.199
don't know. I agree with you. I just don't see how Worthy's gonna

1119
01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:25.079
get a chance to play. They're
gonna they're gonna bring something. They've already

1120
01:26:25.079 --> 01:26:30.880
brought somebody in, right, so
they trade for somebody or I kf.

1121
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:35.479
Yeah he's okay, Yeah, okay, Yeah he's okay. But again,

1122
01:26:35.680 --> 01:26:41.920
depending on the advatsnwer's got some potential, Michael Vargas, maybe they'll trade him

1123
01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:49.600
or Miguel Vargas or Migel Vargas with
the Dodgers. Yeah, how about how

1124
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:57.319
about Xavier Edwards in Miami? Or
if he gets an opportunity, Look,

1125
01:26:57.399 --> 01:27:00.399
that guy's fast, these good bat
the balls feels no power, Yeah,

1126
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:03.720
I mean he could steal you thirty
forty bases if he gets a shot.

1127
01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:12.680
Yeah. So you know the problem
with second base is when you start looking

1128
01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:16.520
at long shots, you don't have
to. I think a lot of the

1129
01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:24.600
long shots per se at second base
are going to be players picked up off

1130
01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:27.960
the waiver wire in season. Right. If I have a choice, am

1131
01:27:28.039 --> 01:27:32.000
I going to add a sleeper pick
per se at second base? Or am

1132
01:27:32.079 --> 01:27:36.079
I going to add an outfielder or
a starting pitcher. It's going to be

1133
01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:41.439
outfielder starting pitcher for me. Yeah
yeah, all right, Timmy, give

1134
01:27:41.479 --> 01:27:44.760
me one guy that you're going to
just avoid. He's not on the great

1135
01:27:44.840 --> 01:27:55.600
Tim McCloud's draft list. One guy
that I'm going to totally avoid is probably

1136
01:27:56.920 --> 01:28:00.800
Luis Arise because I'm hoping I don't
get myself into a city situation where I

1137
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:03.560
need what he happens to bring to
the table. And that's not a slight

1138
01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:08.159
against a Rise. Yeah, he's
He's definitely going to help you in the

1139
01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:13.560
batting average and OVP numbers, but
hopefully I won't need that help by the

1140
01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:16.479
time I start looking at filling my
second base slot. The other player,

1141
01:28:16.520 --> 01:28:20.239
if I can comment, you bring
up a really good point. It's look,

1142
01:28:20.680 --> 01:28:24.960
at least a Rise a very good
baseball player and can help you in

1143
01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:29.159
a fantasy team. But you do
feel like when you select him, you've

1144
01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:33.039
done something wrong. Right, You're
getting him because you're low, You're low

1145
01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:38.199
on act, you're low on a
category. It's almost like getting su Ruiz

1146
01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.800
as you're stolen base guy or rabbit. You that means you did something wrong.

1147
01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:46.920
And now you're you're you're counting on
one guy to make up the flaws

1148
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:50.520
of your of your draft. That
rarely works out, but you know,

1149
01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:55.560
sometimes you have to do what you
have to do. Yeah, if I

1150
01:28:55.640 --> 01:28:59.079
want to use my band aids,
I want to use them on injured players.

1151
01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:01.039
I don't want to use them on
players that I've just picked in a

1152
01:29:01.159 --> 01:29:05.720
draft. Right, I had the
idea of correcting a problem that you've created

1153
01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:09.960
yourself. It's yeah, you're right, it's not not keen on me,

1154
01:29:10.399 --> 01:29:14.840
So give me another guy. I
don't want Ryan McMahon. It just don't

1155
01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:16.079
either. I don't need. I
have him a d L five, and

1156
01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:19.479
I'm like, I can't get anybody
to trade with me for a third basement

1157
01:29:19.479 --> 01:29:23.560
because they're all laughing because I got
Ryan McMahon and I've had him for five

1158
01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:27.880
years to him and so I've watched
him day, day in and day.

1159
01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.960
I mean, don't have a couple
of good weeks, but it's mostly black.

1160
01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:33.760
Well, yeah, my narrative says, you know, two thousand and

1161
01:29:33.800 --> 01:29:39.159
three probably provide me an okay year
for McMahon, but it's okay, good

1162
01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:43.319
enough. Expect more of the same
okay numbers in twenty twenty four. Okay,

1163
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:48.039
yeah, exactly, Yeah, Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's okay,

1164
01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:51.159
it's okay. I totally totally agree
with you. It's just okay.

1165
01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:54.319
I think he is third base eligible
too, isn't he? Yeah, you

1166
01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:59.960
got him at their h so yeah, I that's one guy that's really disp

1167
01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:02.119
point. I thought he'd be a
better player than what he has become.

1168
01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:05.239
But that is what it is.
I think we know the player now,

1169
01:30:05.439 --> 01:30:10.239
Timmy. That your second based off
is really well done. It's all out

1170
01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:13.439
there on Prospect three sixty one.
If your Patreon memory, you got it

1171
01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:16.439
all. I'm going to update that
spreadsheet so we get last year's rankings.

1172
01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:19.520
Sorry about that, I just forgot
to do it. Okay. Yeah,

1173
01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:25.039
that's your new Year's that's your new
year's present to me, not taking a

1174
01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:30.039
look at last year's performance levels,
even though they'd be interesting for sure.

1175
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:32.359
Exactly, Timmy, that is a
wrap, my friend. We're gonna cut

1176
01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:36.159
it here. We've already gone an
hour and a half. That's long enough,

1177
01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:40.640
so we will pick up second base. Excuse me. The San Francisco

1178
01:30:40.720 --> 01:30:46.239
Giants on Sunday, Yeah sounds good. Notes are already uh ready ready to

1179
01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:50.720
rock with the giants and hold short
stop right, I can have short Stop

1180
01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:55.600
ready to roll. Okay, that'd
be great, Timmy. All I've got

1181
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:59.000
to do is just list them and
rack them, and we'll talk about my

1182
01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:02.760
selections. We can make fun of
all my NFBC selections. Come on Sunday.

1183
01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:06.319
Will probably be done a good part
of the draft then, so that'll

1184
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:11.960
be fun. See see taken why
we were on the air, Matt McClain

1185
01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:17.479
went after Aaron Nolay in the fourth
round, fourth round, pick nine,

1186
01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:21.479
I believe. And then then the
closers have started. You got Durant,

1187
01:31:23.399 --> 01:31:27.239
Emanuel Class, David Beddner or CJ. Abrams got snuck in there too,

1188
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:30.800
So I that's why. Now,
that's why I was thinking I needed to

1189
01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:33.079
get a closer, because all the
big ones are going to be gone.

1190
01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:38.800
So that's I think there'll still be
somebody left when I get I would I

1191
01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:42.760
would think so Develle's pretty solid in
San Francisco. If he's still there,

1192
01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:46.279
yeah he is. But I'm three
away from picking, so hopefully they will

1193
01:31:46.319 --> 01:31:48.920
be there. Right, I will
tell you who was top on the list.

1194
01:31:49.039 --> 01:31:51.239
Now, I'm not gonna do that
to me. It is a wrap,

1195
01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:56.680
my friend. Talk to you on
Sunday. My friend sounds good.

1196
01:31:56.840 --> 01:32:00.960
Safe travels to you and Laurie and
hope you miss all storms. And again

1197
01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:04.199
to all our listeners, Happy New
Year. Let's hope twenty four is a

1198
01:32:04.359 --> 01:32:05.439
great one for all of us

