1 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:06,400 Hello ladies, gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of geek Verse podcast. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,119 I am what are your hosts, the CeNAT of the Earth Taylor Field that 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:15,720 I'm joined by a non maecaster, Ilmus. Yes, we are here to 4 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,399 talk about the latest Godzilla King Kong addition to the Monster Cinematic Universe. It 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,320 is gonna be a good time. But before we get into our non spoilers 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,039 and spoilers thoughts a couple of plugs. You can find us with your Internet 7 00:00:27,079 --> 00:00:29,839 connection in the search bar. Geek Verse dot CAA is our home based key 8 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:32,960 vers cast, our Twitter, geek Versus is our Facebook. You can also 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,240 find us on Patreon, and if you do so, you can get ad 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,799 free exclusive early episodes. It's a wonderful place. Lots of juicy content just 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,240 unfolding over there now. The special folks over here, the Patreon producers Aaron 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,799 Braiden, April and Arnist, Jack Grant, MUDs, Sam Te fucking Money. 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,079 You guys are amazing. We thank you so so very much from the 14 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:57,960 bottom of our hearts. You folks are just truly wonderful. What else do 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,359 we got? Do you have anything going on in your own my room? 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,719 You know side Quest. I had a fun episode of Kirklan this week talking 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,200 about Princess Peach. Showtime next week, me you and maybe maybe Kirkley might 18 00:01:08,239 --> 00:01:11,840 join us as well, talk about Marvel Rivals, the latest Marvel game and 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,519 some other stuff as well. So side Quest is always good. And uh, 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,239 you know, it's a season of X Baby, So we're reviewing X 21 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,120 Men, which has been a lot of fun. And I don't know, 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,079 we're always doing news. What else is happening? That's about it? Right? 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,319 Oh yeah, I feel like with a review like this, it's a 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,439 good time to plug Cryptid Clues. I think I think it's kind of related. 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,159 I knew, I knew that was gonna come up. Yeah. Yeah, 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,959 there's there's a little, a little something something in this movie that if 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,879 you like this kind of stuff like cryptids things and whatnot. Yeah, check 28 00:01:42,879 --> 00:01:46,359 out Crypto Clues. There's always something dropping on Crypto Clues. Every week. 29 00:01:46,359 --> 00:01:49,120 Every Monday, we've got a new episode popping off and next next week, 30 00:01:49,239 --> 00:01:55,000 actually we had a submission come in and Ruben did a whole analysis of these 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,840 audio clips that was sent in, and so Ruin breaks it down in the 32 00:01:57,959 --> 00:02:00,719 episode that I'll drop next week. So it's cool, it's a good time 33 00:02:00,959 --> 00:02:07,680 nice. Yeah. So I mean this this movie has definitely got that whole 34 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:15,520 cryptid energy to it, and they've they really, they've really am I getting 35 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,120 into my thoughts? Now? Should I get into my thoughts? Well? 36 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,919 I think but maybe before that, can you just like set up for me 37 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,759 and for the listeners too, just like what movies are part of this fucking 38 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:30,919 universe and this continued story. Yeah, that's a good idea. So we 39 00:02:31,039 --> 00:02:38,680 have Godzilla that came out twenty fourteen with Brian Cranston, Aaron Taylor Johnson, 40 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:44,280 and then we have after that it would have been cong Skull Island and that's 41 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:50,280 the prequel prequel film Blarsen, Tom Middleston. And then we have Godzilla King 42 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,080 of the Monsters that came out I think twenty nineteen, I want to say, 43 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,360 And then we had after that Godzilla versus Kong, and then after that 44 00:03:02,439 --> 00:03:07,360 we had Monarch the Apple Apple series. Right. I couldn't remember if Monarch 45 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:10,080 was canon into this universe, but it is, okay, it is, 46 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:14,000 yeah, and then after that, yeah, now we have Godzilla x. 47 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:20,000 Kong. So I guess, yeah, how how immersed are you in this? 48 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,400 Because I don't even remember who's been on the reviews with me. I 49 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:24,919 know Ruben joined for Godzilla King of the Monster's review, but yeah, what 50 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,240 else we did? I know I had definitely a spotty coverage here, which 51 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:31,719 you know, if anyone's listened to last week Goh was supposed to review and 52 00:03:31,719 --> 00:03:35,039 then this one, they might be like, who's this Dylan guy who doesn't 53 00:03:35,439 --> 00:03:38,159 do his homework normally? I do. I just wanted to see these two 54 00:03:38,159 --> 00:03:42,000 movies without having done all the research going in, but not seeing that original 55 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,000 King Kong that twenty twenty fourteen that you said for the year on that one 56 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,560 that was just called or sorry, yeah, godzill just called Godzilla though right 57 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,879 twenty seventeen was Kng Skull Island. Yeah, so I mean obviously he saw 58 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:57,080 Kong Skull Island because I think that was like a full man review. I 59 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,800 feel like we had four or five or six people on that review back in 60 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,879 the prime year in the gig first history at twenty seventeen is a classic. 61 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,879 And then yeah, I didn't join you for the review on that Godzilla King 62 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:11,560 of Monsters, but that was your uh, that was your Golden Geeks pick 63 00:04:11,639 --> 00:04:14,319 of that year. So I did watch that movie at home, You're not 64 00:04:14,319 --> 00:04:16,000 gonna be the same experience as the big screen. And then I have not 65 00:04:16,199 --> 00:04:20,120 Maybe the most important one to miss is that I have not seen Godzilla Versus 66 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:25,759 Kong. Yeah that's once again, like just how I hadn't seen after like 67 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:30,519 before Frozen Empire probably a big one to miss. But yeah, so I 68 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,279 definitely have a spotty history here, but I guess I've seen one of the 69 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,040 Godzilla's one of the King Kong, so I have a little bit of backstory. 70 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:39,959 But I think also relevant like that King Kong, like Peter Jackson's one 71 00:04:39,959 --> 00:04:43,920 from what was that two thousand and six or seven something like that that I 72 00:04:43,959 --> 00:04:46,120 love that movie so much and I have not watched it in a very long 73 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,560 time, but as a kid, that was like one of that would probably 74 00:04:48,639 --> 00:04:53,360 been my top ten, top five favorite movies, and I should revisit at 75 00:04:53,399 --> 00:04:56,439 some point. So I definitely have a lot of love for that character. 76 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,920 And then otherwise, like godzill I've actually not seen a ton before honestly, 77 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,480 like I don't. I think maybe that King of Monsters might be the only 78 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:09,759 Godzilla movie I've ever seen, So you never selling that nineteen nineties one where 79 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:13,560 it like lays all the eggs takes over New York. No, oh wow, 80 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,319 No, I mean I've seen like clover Field. That's about it. 81 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,000 But that's fair. Yeah, but you've seen all of these things, right, 82 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,720 I guess with Monarch, you haven't started yet. I did, actually, 83 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,279 Oh you have, Okay, I watched through Monarch. Yeah. Oh 84 00:05:26,319 --> 00:05:28,519 okay, okay, I forgot about that. Okay, so you're all up 85 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,839 to date, then I'm all up to date. Yeah, and this this 86 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,160 whole arc that we've gotten of this, this cinematic monster universe. I am 87 00:05:38,439 --> 00:05:42,839 probably partial to the earlier stories than I am to where we're at now. 88 00:05:43,079 --> 00:05:45,959 I know where I would rank all of my movies, and I'll probably do 89 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,279 a letterbox ranking now that we have to review this, we break it down. 90 00:05:48,319 --> 00:05:51,639 But yeah, that first Godzilla movie and King of the Monsters is just 91 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,680 so high on the pedestal for me. I really like them, and I 92 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,000 feel like this the the scale of Godzilla and the other Titans in those movies 93 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,079 are really really represented well, and they just feel massive. But when you 94 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:08,920 look at them here in this movie for example, and just even god Tella 95 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,120 versus Kong and whatnot, they they're spending so much time just focusing and viewing 96 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,360 these titans that you just kind of lose that scale factor. I agree with 97 00:06:17,399 --> 00:06:23,000 that big time. Actually, yeah, I feel like that. I feel 98 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:29,399 like it's kind of a takeaway a little bit unfortunately. So that's that's probably 99 00:06:29,399 --> 00:06:32,240 one of my major cons that I have with these later iterations. But it's 100 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:40,079 funny with this movie, particularly at as the credits. Immediately when the credits 101 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:45,800 rolled, probably like ninety percent of the audience to start to applause, and 102 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:48,639 I was actually stunned. I was looking. I was stunned. I was 103 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:51,759 gonna whip my phone out and start recording it briefly because this is weird. 104 00:06:51,920 --> 00:07:00,560 But I can't put my finger on how much Stevens back there, Becca Hall 105 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,240 in the background. But uh yeah, So overall, I love the universe, 106 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,920 and I'm this is a movie that I was not anticipating we were gonna 107 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:14,560 get, gonna get. King of the Monsters was not overly reviewed well by 108 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,040 critics, but the fan base really liked it, and I loved it as 109 00:07:17,079 --> 00:07:20,319 one of the fans as well. But they had already started working on Godzilla 110 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:26,560 versus Kong at that point that I think this is something Travis has said too. 111 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Don't quote me on this, but if they weren't already starting on that 112 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,720 movie, then after King of the Monsters, this franchise would have basically been 113 00:07:33,759 --> 00:07:38,040 dead in the water. But they already started on Godzilla Versus Kong, so 114 00:07:38,079 --> 00:07:42,519 they just they just kept rolling with it, obviously, But then COVID happened 115 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,920 and the movie did not go in theaters. It just went out to streaming, 116 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,959 right, HBO, Max and whatnot. But it did so well on 117 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:50,879 streaming. Of course, there was nothing else really going on, nothing else 118 00:07:50,879 --> 00:07:56,240 to watch at the time, so Godzilla Versus Kong really popped off and well 119 00:07:56,279 --> 00:08:00,560 and behold and rumors started circulating about Mini Kong and all this kind of stuff, 120 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,759 and here we are, we have our follow up movie. So yeah, 121 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,040 so what I mean, because it seems you said earlier that you kind 122 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,560 of are more partial to the earlier stuff compared to the newer So obviously still 123 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,240 like that Godzilla Versus Kong. Getting all these titles right is a lot of 124 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,079 work on my end. Yeah, but what did you think of this one? 125 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,319 Were you into this? So? Were you one of the people applauding 126 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,480 at the end there with Dan Skeel I didn't applaud I was just in I 127 00:08:28,519 --> 00:08:37,200 was in shock. But the the movie was it. I feel like it's 128 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,440 it's a step down from where we were at with Godzilla versus Kong. But 129 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,200 there was a lot of stuff I really enjoyed. I'm always down for the 130 00:08:45,639 --> 00:08:48,919 monster fights and everything. I thought it was great, But the scenes were 131 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,240 just more choppy. Certain things are quick cut and jump jump jump, and 132 00:08:52,279 --> 00:08:56,559 there's certain scenes too where you can feel like it's almost like an afterthought where 133 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,360 you see a character standing in one place and he's engaging in dialogue, and 134 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:05,039 then it cuts to the next scene and he's sending all of a sudden next 135 00:09:05,039 --> 00:09:07,720 to a character and you can tell, Okay, they they didn't splice a 136 00:09:07,759 --> 00:09:11,440 lot of this stuff together very well. But that being said, I had 137 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,919 a lot of fun with it. I enjoyed it. I was laughing some 138 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,759 of the jokes. The humor was really working for me. But there were 139 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:20,639 some things that I just thought was questionable. I didn't understand what they were 140 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:24,960 doing these certain specific things. But yeah, I had a lot of fun 141 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,600 with it. But I know where I would put it. Ooh, okay, 142 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,519 well we'll save that for the end. I suppose you know, I 143 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,759 gotta gotta leave something there for the fans. Uh. Yeah, For me, 144 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,559 I thought the movie's okay. I didn't think it was bad by any 145 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,159 means, but I also don't think it was great or good or really excelled 146 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,639 in any particular way. I think the biggest thing that really stowed to me 147 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,360 is that, like, even compared to I mean, Colling School isand is 148 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,399 like such a mess of a movie, but even King of the Monsters wasn't 149 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:56,600 a movie I love. I feel like it did have a style to it, 150 00:09:56,639 --> 00:10:00,440 like a distinct style. This I don't feel like it really had style. 151 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,679 Like there's so much of the I can't even remember what was in the 152 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,440 trailer, so I don't want to spoil stuff, but there's a certain area 153 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,360 I guess, Well, your name is the center of the Earth. Well, 154 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,600 I'll just call it the center of the Earth. I feel like all 155 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,240 that just looked like AI generated imagery and that was like their concept art, 156 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:20,200 and then like the CGI artists just like went ham on it. Like I 157 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,399 don't know. There there's definitely a lack of style to me in terms of 158 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,519 like the dialogue, in terms of the visuals of it, and like the 159 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:30,799 music and sound, like I just don't think there's really a great feel to 160 00:10:30,879 --> 00:10:33,639 this movie, which I guess it I wasn't really put into it. And 161 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,720 also the CGI. You know, it's not amazing. It's not like immersive, 162 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:41,559 and of course it's like larger than life things, very unbelievable things, 163 00:10:41,879 --> 00:10:45,440 so it maybe wouldn't be naturally immersive in that way. But I just found 164 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,480 myself not getting too connected to it. And you know, even like our 165 00:10:48,519 --> 00:10:52,480 three main actors that we called d Stevens I mentioned, and then Brian Tyree 166 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,039 Henry, who's a guy that's like really only come up for me here because 167 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,480 of Bullet Train, and then as I mentioned on our newscast this week, 168 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,600 I just started Atlanta this week and he's in that show too, and like 169 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:03,960 he's really great. I think he's really fun in this movie too, But 170 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,159 like, you know, none of these characters are really given enough juice to 171 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,360 see them in like a Golden Geeks at the end of the year, you 172 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:15,600 know, like even though the acting is good there, and then yeah, 173 00:11:15,639 --> 00:11:16,840 other things too, Like I just felt like at some points, man like 174 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:22,840 the CGI and like the weird like the camera was always like spinning the sounds 175 00:11:22,879 --> 00:11:28,759 were so just like whoah. I just feel like for hours, woah, 176 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:33,039 that's Godzilla or Cang rather like his every sound he makes, it's like the 177 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,080 same, like two or three stocks sounds like over and over again. The 178 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,919 music is just like that, and my brain was just like I could feel 179 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,879 it turning to mush, especially in this last like twenty minutes when it's just 180 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:48,639 like big fucking songs and huge creatures fighting each other. I was just getting 181 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:52,320 a little lost in the sauce there. So I think I wish I just 182 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,679 had like one or two things that I could latch onto and say, like, 183 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,240 oh, I love that part and I'm passionate about that part, and 184 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,679 I think people should see the movie for this one thing. But there really 185 00:12:01,759 --> 00:12:05,600 isn't any of that. It's just a bunch of meh stuff and like a 186 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,759 couple, you know, maybe slightly better moments. So overall, I'm not 187 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,159 I'm not in love with it. I'll never never watch it again. And 188 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:15,480 I don't really know how to recommend this too, Like if you're into all 189 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:20,120 these movies even at their worse, like A cong Skull Island or I guess 190 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,559 sounds like maybe there's kind of controversial take on Godzilla Versus Kong. If you're 191 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,399 into that stuff, I mean, you probably don't need my description here. 192 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:31,759 You're probably gonna go see it anyway. But yeah, it's it's maybe not 193 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,960 my cup of tea necessarily, even though once again, King Kong two thousand 194 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,399 and six, whatever year that movie was, I love that. So I 195 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,720 know there's there's room in my heart somewhere for these kind of movies, and 196 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:43,600 I guess I'm still looking for it. I probably should have watched Godzilla minus 197 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,559 one last year. That probably would have been one that I would have loved 198 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,159 too, So I'll definitely do it at some point. Yeah. Yeah, 199 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:54,039 a lot of the cast that was in this film is returning from Godzilla Versus 200 00:12:54,120 --> 00:13:01,960 Kong and Rebecca Holl she and King of the Monsters. Oh, for some 201 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,360 reason, she looked familiar to me. Maybe I'm just like remembering trailers for 202 00:13:05,399 --> 00:13:13,240 all these movies. I remember ten was in there. Uh, what is 203 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:18,480 that actress's name? She's in the conjuring Rebecca Hall? Is that everything about? 204 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:24,159 No? I think someone else? Why is she not listed here? 205 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,559 For crying out loud? Where the heck is she? Okay, it looks 206 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,200 like from what I'm seeing she doesn't look like she was in Vera Farmiga. 207 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:39,480 I don't know who that is. Uh, you've seen The Conjuring, right, 208 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:45,799 Yeah, but it's been a long time. She plays the main Lorraine 209 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,840 Warren lady. Hm hmm. She's a really good actress. She's been a 210 00:13:50,879 --> 00:13:56,320 few things, but yeah, she's Yeah. Rebecca Hall, to my knowledge, 211 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,960 is definitely not in. I don't know why she looked familiar. Maybe 212 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,399 she just looks like a familiar kind of person. Anyway, I don't know 213 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:09,200 if I have any other non spoilery thoughts here. I mean, I think 214 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,080 you hit the no on the head with the sounds. They love the the 215 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:18,039 the animal sounds and the sounds X and all that. Oh my god, 216 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:22,200 it's funny because there was Maybe that's spoiler talk. I'll save that thought because 217 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,320 there was one moment that that worked for me. But I'll save that. 218 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,960 I'll save that. Okay, Well, without further ado, let's get to 219 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,120 our first ad break and then break into spoilers. So you'ven see the movie, 220 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,600 go watch it, then come back. We'll see you in a second 221 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,440 and we're back. So what do you want to start on this? Maybe 222 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,720 spoiler Well, I'll start. Yeah, I'll share this moment. It is 223 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:46,720 actually pretty early on in the movie, but the one part I actually really 224 00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:52,279 liked from the score, it was like almost more of a techno or like 225 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,759 sort of daft, punky sort of thing. It's like it's when they're all 226 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:58,639 gearing up to go to the Hollow Earth and you you have that very goofy 227 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:01,639 moment where the three like main characters and maybe there's four of them there. 228 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,960 I think it's just the three of them at that point, and they're like 229 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,039 walking through the hallway kind of like in slow mo, and there's like kind 230 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,120 of this just one sort of daft, punky sort of techno track that's playing, 231 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,960 and even like the lightning of that, like I thought that was to 232 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,320 me, that was like the one moment in the movie where I actually had 233 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,919 like a distinct style to it and I kind of was vibing with that. 234 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:22,440 But then they didn't really go in that direction. There were a couple of 235 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,720 moments where they had like a licensed song and it was meant to be like 236 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,440 a big, you know, pop culture kind of action movie moment, but 237 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,639 then I feel like they those moons were very few and far between. Like 238 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,440 Dan Stevens has one of those two when he brings in like the taroed Actyls 239 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,840 and I forget what song is playing, but they like play in a very 240 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:41,559 like Guardians of the Galaxy sort of way, just play some very popular song 241 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:45,879 as he comes in here to disrupt this moment. So I but it was 242 00:15:45,879 --> 00:15:50,279 weird that those moments were really like minimally interlaced in there. I guess for 243 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,080 the heroes obviously, the big the big boys, they usually just get like 244 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,360 they're pretty pretty classic, like you know, Boss sort of sounds right for 245 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:00,320 their soundtrack stuff because you got to get that scale, you know, gotta 246 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,480 make the gotta make them feel big with the with the soundtrack as well. 247 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,360 Yeah, of course I thought it was kind of nice to have those those 248 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:14,240 original not scores. But I can't remember the name of the songs, but 249 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:18,120 there's a few of them that just dropped in. Yeah, But aside from 250 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:23,279 that, I can't recall any other original score pieces aside from like the wooh 251 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:27,519 woo like the sound effect. Yeah, I wish I could remember the I 252 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:30,320 remember the scene you're talking about where they're the slow moll and all three of 253 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,240 them walking down the hall. But I don't remember the sound, the sound 254 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,159 the score that was going to that unfortunately, so I might have to just 255 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,720 do a rewatch and and pick up on that. Mm hmm, I gotta 256 00:16:41,759 --> 00:16:45,039 I gotta random question for you here, m h Man Kong. That guy's 257 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,360 using a lot of traps in this movie, like a lot. Is that 258 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,080 like an established thing for this song he's he's he's a trickster. He likes 259 00:16:53,159 --> 00:16:56,759 uh. He tries to one up his competition. Rather than you know, 260 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,279 just besting them in strength or side, he tries to outsmart them. Is 261 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:04,160 that a character trait? Would you say? This is the first I've seen 262 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:11,079 of that, And it's pretty cool. I really really like it. It 263 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,880 just felt like some of it felt weird where that you have this scene at 264 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,599 the end, you know, maybe in the middle ish of the movie when 265 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:19,759 he's he goes into like that lava domain and you have like the the guy 266 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,839 uh with the whip thing like the skeleton mark yeah, yeah, and he 267 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:26,680 he like pieces out of that domain. He just barely makes it out of 268 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,440 their thing, which like the little monkey led him there like he's never been 269 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,880 there before. But then like right outside of that cavern, he has traps 270 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,319 set up. I'm like, how how did you know that you would be 271 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:37,880 here? Like, how did this work out? Or is this place like 272 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,519 much smaller than I was giving it credit for. But it seemed like they 273 00:17:41,559 --> 00:17:45,440 had been on quite a you know, a fellowship type of journey to get 274 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,759 to that domain. So I was surprised that he had a trap there because 275 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:51,039 at the opening of the movie, that one made a bit more sense where 276 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:55,440 he was like maybe intentionally baiting all these like saber toothed looking sort of creatures 277 00:17:55,839 --> 00:17:57,200 into his little and then once again the trap was very much the same. 278 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:02,160 It was like a little cave, a little narrow cave passage, and that's 279 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,359 where he does his traps. So it just stood out to me as like, 280 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,319 man, I thought they weren't King Kong to just be like punching people. 281 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,880 So it's surprised that he was using traps. Yeah, I I mean, 282 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,440 I've never seen him use traps before in the other films, and the 283 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,400 fact that he usually does get smacked around pretty hard, it was neat to 284 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:26,319 see him shot try something different and use traps to this degree. The whole 285 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:33,039 geolocation of the Hollow Earth I could I've lost was the hollow Earth in Godzilla 286 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,880 Versus Calm. Yes, okay, it was it was established there. Was 287 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,359 it a big part of it or was that more like an ending thing like 288 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:47,720 Godzilla or King Kong? I mean, it's, oh gosh, just but 289 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,880 while since I've seen it, i'd say it's like a thirty percent of the 290 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:56,160 movie. Okay, maybe forty, but yeah, like it's it's the focal 291 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,880 point. It's where they realized like, okay, like Kong, we have 292 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,519 access point, we can get calng here. This is before they discovered all 293 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:04,880 the portals, the portals or something you learn about in the Monarch TV show 294 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:10,599 that they start accessing right, you know. Weirdly, like after watching this, 295 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,119 the thing that I'm most interested in is Monarch because I really like the 296 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,359 idea of them setting up some of these bases in different areas and you're like, 297 00:19:18,519 --> 00:19:21,640 yeah, they have that one in the Hollow Earth, like Monarch set 298 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,599 up one whatever they called it, some name like that, and that seems 299 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:26,039 cool, like that science part, and I think I'd probably get more invested 300 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:30,240 in that because it's just there'd be more chance for character work rather than it 301 00:19:30,319 --> 00:19:33,359 just being about big dude. So yeah, weirdly, that's the one I'm 302 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,680 most curious to check out. Out of all these, I'd recommend it. 303 00:19:37,759 --> 00:19:41,920 Kurt Russell and Why Russell both are great because you have Why Russell's playing a 304 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,519 younger version of Kurt Russell. They both had the same character. Really, 305 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,400 the character stuff is great, and you get that science level, the different 306 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,480 bases and stuff like that. It's really really a good, good show. 307 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Cool. But yeah, the the idea of figuring out where things are in 308 00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:02,319 the Hollow Earth just kind of allude back to what you're saying. They're like 309 00:20:02,319 --> 00:20:06,599 this trap being outside of skar King's layer, I couldn't tell where things were 310 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,839 in proximity to other things. Everything just seemed close. And maybe that's just 311 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:15,599 because it's hollow earth. The ceiling is the floor and vice versa. Yeah, 312 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,920 but then we also had Inner Earth, which is like, holy shit, 313 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,039 where we have another earth inside the Hollow Earth, which is crazy. 314 00:20:22,039 --> 00:20:25,960 And I guess that's where the all the apes or the scar King and his 315 00:20:26,079 --> 00:20:27,519 crew, right, Oh, is that what they call that? That's what 316 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:30,720 they called it because they kept dropping like the title card thing at at the 317 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,359 top, like so many of those. Yeah, yeah, there was a 318 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:40,759 lot of locations. Oh my god, Now I gotta ask because I swear 319 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:45,559 on crypto clues you've done like a Hollow Earth episode, right, yes, 320 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,119 or like you've done a flat Earth one, or you've were both. We've 321 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,119 done, We've done, We've done both. Yeah. Okay, how does 322 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:56,160 this track for the Hollow Earth theory? Well, Godzilla versus Kong does it 323 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:03,559 well. Where they I think they go to the Antarctic. It was the 324 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,799 Arctic. It was esither north or south. I can't remember which end they 325 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,839 go to in Godzilla Versus Kong, but the tip of the world. Basically, 326 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:17,079 if you were to go up there, you'd basically find a big hole 327 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:23,880 that you could access, and apparently it's encrypto clues fashion. It's basically United 328 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,759 Nations has cornered it off. No one can get in. And in the 329 00:21:27,799 --> 00:21:33,640 case of Godzilla versus Kong, they basically had a monarch station there and they 330 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,839 basically tried to get Kong in there and send him on his way because he 331 00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:41,200 They realized, Okay, as long as Kong's on the surface, Godzilla is 332 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,279 the alpha. Godzilla is going to go after Kong and he'll never be safe. 333 00:21:44,279 --> 00:21:45,519 So the idea was, Okay, we've got to get Kong somewhere else, 334 00:21:45,559 --> 00:21:49,000 and I don't think they really knew about the Hollow Worth, but they 335 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,759 thought, Okay, we're gonna send him down there because it's this whole thing 336 00:21:52,799 --> 00:21:56,240 where Kong's trying to find his kin, find more of his own kind, 337 00:21:56,319 --> 00:22:00,319 and so he goes and he kind of figures out to go to Hollow Earth 338 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,960 and they kind of go in behind. But the thing with the portals is 339 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,920 only titans can activate the portals. There's some kind of like signature and they're 340 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,440 like their radiation or something about themselves that that's why the portals open up and 341 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:18,119 turn blue when a titan approaches them. That's why humans kind of would piggyback 342 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,400 and kind of go in behind. But I think that they can activate it 343 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,480 on their own. I'm not sure how the technology works. And what is 344 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:30,400 there a relation between Skull Island, like specifically that location and the hall, 345 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:33,200 Like is there an opening there that we know of or is that really there 346 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,599 is an opening? Yeah, there is a portal opening there that goes to 347 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,160 Skull Island from Hollow Earth, which okay, that's how Calm got there. 348 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:45,960 Yeah, that makes sense, and that makes sense why the I guess, 349 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,880 like the tribes too, Like you have the girl here, I can't remember 350 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,279 her name, but like not the daughter of Rebecca Hall. But do you 351 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:56,839 remember the name of this character? I don't remember. No, anyway she 352 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,079 was in that goes o versus calm, But yeah, tracks I understand. 353 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:03,359 Yeah, it seems like that would be like a deviation from the tribe underneath 354 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,680 obviously, And then they they had the u the legend of the Chosen One 355 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,599 who would come back and uh and summon Mathra and all that, which, 356 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,640 honestly, that stuff got a little bit lost in the sauce for me, 357 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,079 where like the people are they're sending out this beacon, and I like some 358 00:23:19,079 --> 00:23:22,079 of the ideas here, Like I really like the idea that they can like 359 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,119 control the gravity of the hollow Earth and they use that to like build these 360 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,960 massive period pyramids because they can just like lift up a huge, you know, 361 00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:30,960 multi ton brick with like two or three people. Like that's a really 362 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,599 fun idea by like the way they maneuver stuff around. But yeah, some 363 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,000 of it just like how they had this beacon and that was supposed to bring 364 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:41,960 them in, but then like the only way they could possibly get in is 365 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,000 by like touching that one specific spot spot on the rock that obviously that one 366 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:48,279 moth like landed on, and like, I guess maybe they sent that moth 367 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,759 or maybe it was just destiny. I'm not sure, but it's like I 368 00:23:51,799 --> 00:23:52,880 feel like they would try a little bit harder to make it easier, like 369 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,400 find the saviors or like make this step a bit easier for them, but 370 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,920 it just seemed to It seems like a bit too convoluted for me. And 371 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,720 also like even just the decision of where they decided to land their ship and 372 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,880 then they're like, oh, we're just gonna go on foot from here, 373 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,799 and then like all this dangerous stuff with like three people who have are completely 374 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,039 unarmed, Like it just a lot of it seemed like very lucky that it 375 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,680 just worked out, And I guess I could have easily just seen it being 376 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,240 written a bit differently, where like the people from down below who were sending 377 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:25,359 that beacon just were somehow more helpful to them. Finding it obviously didn't matter 378 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,160 in the end. But maybe I'm just being nitpicky, but the whole the 379 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:33,359 whole series of steps just seemed a bit a bit unnecessary to me perhaps or 380 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,599 a bit just kind of too lucky. No, I would agree. I 381 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,720 think that it felt very rushed, which is a shame. I mean they 382 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:45,279 get down there and they're walking around when they got killer trees everywhere and all 383 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:52,519 these like things that are just not natural to a human like human environment. 384 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:56,200 So they're just cruising around you they get to this, this this colony, 385 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,599 I mean they could They're lucky they wouldn't wouldn't have been killed right away, 386 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,039 like these tribal people could have just slipped their throats or taken them down. 387 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,279 The one guard who I feel like they wrote him off really quickly because he 388 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,960 was kind of listening and he was on board and he was very cautious, 389 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,519 but then right when he got out into the woods, he's like fighting, 390 00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:18,119 like, no, we're gonna go this way. Like if someone tells me 391 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,039 that something could be up ahead, I'm gonna listen. Like, oh, 392 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,599 you smell that that decaying body. He's like, yeah, just a draft 393 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,559 that came from celths or something like that. Was like, what are you 394 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,960 talking about, man, I mean you're not a professional really in this situation. 395 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,319 But yeah, these movies always have that guy that's like that's a classic 396 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,319 trope. And that's where I also felt too, like Yeah, a lot 397 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:42,039 of like very cliche sort of dialogue here. So I think that's why they 398 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:48,400 did at least a good job with that, the three main crew there with 399 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:52,480 I mean, how do you feel about like this this podcast live streamers sort 400 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,759 of trope? I feel like we're seeing this a lot now in movies where 401 00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:59,720 there's like some guy who's always live streaming, or like why was he always 402 00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:03,599 so can zoomed in on his camera like bo so much? Like it was 403 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,799 so unclear. But so that's a tangent. But I do want to know, 404 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:10,359 like, what are you thinking of this? I feel like even Ghostbusters 405 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,119 kind of had this last week. So it's just yeah, and the Frozen 406 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,960 Frozen Empire again, right, That's just that's that's the theme right now. 407 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,000 I I gotta I enjoyed it. I get a kick out of out of 408 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:25,519 him and his character and his podcasting. He's from Godzilla versus Kong. So 409 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:32,519 I liked the I liked how he has this kind of approach. But yeah, 410 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,799 I think that I think that there was a good message in that too, 411 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,000 where he was being told like just look at this, all these isolated 412 00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:45,000 people and civilizations and cultures that you you film that put it on the internet 413 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:47,400 and then look what's gonna happen. It's not gonna last. But he just 414 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,519 kind of disregarded it. But yeah, No, I thought he was fun 415 00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:52,960 though, And I I think Dan Stevens that like they what did they call 416 00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,519 him, what was the name for him? A trapper? Yeah, the 417 00:26:56,599 --> 00:27:00,279 trapper, Like yeah, just doing this uh dental work on calm and like, 418 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,720 man, I swear if you if you had frostbite and your arms fucked 419 00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,279 up, you've nerve damage. I don't think giving you a power fist is 420 00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:11,680 gonna fix you. But you know, according to like, I guess there's 421 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,279 a lot more unrealistic things in this movie than that, so I should just 422 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,160 let it slide. But I really liked his character. I thought it was 423 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,279 like a fun idea that he's just like this master of fixing up Kong. 424 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,319 He's just like his uh, his guy that you would go to in between 425 00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:29,839 missions to like level up your character and get the new upgrades. And then 426 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,480 Rebecca Hall, like, I don't know, she doesn't have a lot to 427 00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:36,720 do necessarily, but just like that being that kind of emotional bond between her 428 00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:41,000 and the kid and she can do the acting where the kid doesn't really act 429 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,240 a whole lot of the kids just kind of hanging out, but she can, 430 00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:45,440 you know, get really really emotional and pulling my heartstrings a little bit. 431 00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:48,880 So I think those three did a really good job of kind of bringing 432 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,200 some heart and soul to the movie, which could otherwise just be like big 433 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,880 CGI beasts fighting each other. Mm hmm. Yeah. I think Rebecca was 434 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,680 Yes, she was great. I liked during God's Li versus Kong, and 435 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,599 I liked her in here. She really really sold those emotional moments for sure. 436 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:11,160 Uh Trapper, he's he was cool. I liked him just standing on 437 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,720 top of Kong's mouth, just yank and the tooth out and just being such 438 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,880 a badass, and he was just loving it. When they got him into 439 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,680 Hollow Earth, He's just like before like the tribe people came up, he 440 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,200 whips his knife out, He's like, yeah I knew, I knew someone 441 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,200 was around here. Like he's just on a whole next level. It was 442 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,440 really really funny. Oh what was the other thing? Yeah? Yeah, 443 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,079 yeah, So with the with the arm, the power arm, is this 444 00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:41,799 the definition of like plot armor? Because Kong is like down and out, 445 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,839 he's not doing good frostbite tissues, nerve damage, everything, and then it 446 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,960 just so happens. Rebecca's character is like, yeah, well we did this 447 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,759 prototype weapon before it was shut down. We had it dropped off here. 448 00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:56,559 I was like, okay, and it has the specific juice to help with 449 00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,720 the frostbite. Yeah, like I know, yeah, that part was the 450 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,720 thing I didn't understand. Was that a line they had that it would somehow 451 00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:07,279 like yeah, yeah, was like, oh yeah, this this should help 452 00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:11,599 the frostbite. You see like three giant jelly vats like injecting Okay, yeah, 453 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,480 yeah, yeah that was pretty goofy. But I really like that yellow 454 00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:21,119 ship they had, like the one that Trapper used in the first place to 455 00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:25,079 pull the the tooth out and then like had the arm kind of hanging out 456 00:29:25,119 --> 00:29:26,839 from it. Oh. It was like a fun little device. But yeah, 457 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,759 you're you're right. That was definitely plot armor or plot fist in this 458 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,240 case. I mean, it made for like some badass moments. But even 459 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:38,200 yeah, just the fact that they're standing there like, oh, he who 460 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,160 knows what he's gonna do. Is he gonna be happy or is he gonna 461 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,160 just bite it off? And then he just like pops off, Like I 462 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,599 don't know. I don't think the picture of that being like my immediate reaction. 463 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,559 Maybe it would be if I got cured of frostbite and something, maybe 464 00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:53,720 I would just pop off. But it did seem a bit strange. But 465 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,960 Kong doesn't have much of a personality in this compared to my favorite Peter jack 466 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,400 in the movie for example, Yeah, I mean Peter Jackson won there's a 467 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,960 lot more emotion in that in that King Kong for sure. Yeah, it's 468 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,200 a different it's it's trying to it's achieving different goals. You know, it's 469 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,440 not it is you don't want to make too much of a one to one, 470 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:19,160 but definitely no, oh, this this Kong has an aggressively aggressive, 471 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,480 compassionate kind of vibe. Maybe I'm not sure what the proper word would be 472 00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:26,119 for that, but just the way he's with Little Kong, Mini Kong, 473 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,200 son of Kong, whatever you want to call him. Like, I liked 474 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,680 how he was with with him, and some of those scenes, like a 475 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,119 lot of the scenes with King Kong. I mean, it's just it's it's 476 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,160 the sound effects and whatnot, but there's no dialogue and they're not they're not 477 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,039 signing to each other. And you just have to read the the scene and 478 00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:49,240 the situation, and I think they did a good job at displaying those those 479 00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:55,240 different situations, like when Mini Kong you can tell he's plotting something when he 480 00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:59,759 lures King Kong into the water and he's like drinking but like looking around and 481 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,119 the sea serpent Creep said, I loved all that kind of stuff. It 482 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,160 was. It was really funny. And then King Kong shares some of his 483 00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:10,880 food with Yeah, I love And I loved how hesitant Mini Kong was in 484 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,640 that moment too, where he didn't want to take it, and then Kong 485 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,920 just throws it on the ground and gets gets it all dusty, which is 486 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,799 like a little bit rude, but at the same time Mini Kong is being 487 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,720 rude. But yeah, did you like Mini Kong has a new character here? 488 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,319 I did, actually, and I liked that it was different from what 489 00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:30,480 I was expecting the trailers. The trailers you see like Mini Kong walk out 490 00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:36,279 of the the mist of the fog, the smoke and seeming very scared and 491 00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:42,799 maybe dore I say, I don't say week, but vulnerable, And then 492 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,279 the movie, no, he's just biting King Kong's hand right away, King 493 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,799 Kong is just whipping around like a fucking mallet smack in the other That was 494 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,480 hilarious. Yeah, when you just chucked them and yeah, used them like 495 00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:01,480 a like Hulk used Loki as a weapon and event, so I couldn't believe 496 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:07,039 that that was That was absolutely bonkers. But yeah, I thought that the 497 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:08,680 character developed. I really liked the character. I thought there was a lot 498 00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:13,039 to this this little Kong that I was able to enjoy. Unfortunately, I'm 499 00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:16,720 pretty sure that was the Mini Kong's parent that got killed and kicked into the 500 00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:21,960 lava, if I had to guess, hmm, okay, or maybe just 501 00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,160 like it was a caretaker of some kind. But the way that that or 502 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,079 ape kind of just was like, no, don't hurt my, my little 503 00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:30,519 one. That's what kind of sold me. That's what I think. Yeah, 504 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:35,720 I guess I took it more as like Mini Kong was more just sympathetic 505 00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:39,359 to any of them that weren't part of like that inner circle of what was 506 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,400 his name, scarface? What was his scar king? Scar King? Yeah, 507 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,119 definitely not Scarface. Yeah, I took it more that way, where 508 00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,720 like you can tell which ones are the inner circle, like their hair's all 509 00:32:49,759 --> 00:32:53,839 falling out, they're looking raggedy and and they're just much more rude and mean 510 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,319 and whatnot. But yeah, I feel like any of the other ones, 511 00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,720 you just, yeah, you instantly feel simply for them because they're being treated 512 00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:05,440 like slaves. They're being kind of just smacked around and whatnot by those by 513 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960 those those overseers. I suppose so I did. I don't know. I 514 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,720 don't have a I don't have a guess as to what the relation was. 515 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,319 I'd say it's more just like a random clung rather than a parent, but 516 00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:17,039 I could be wrong. M that's fair. Uh. It's nice to see 517 00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:22,880 Kong King Kong kind of immediately implement this leadership role too, where he's like, 518 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,079 oh, why are you fighting other Kongs? There's fucking Kong heads on 519 00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:30,480 spikes like steah in the ground, Like jeez, this is this is brutal. 520 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,240 Yeah, I don't imagine that being a very nice place to live. 521 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:42,200 Like there you have beautiful lush forests with sunlight pretty damn close, but instead 522 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,839 they live like just hanging out in this dens. All those traps that are 523 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,319 outside, they they don't dare go out there, I guess, So, 524 00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:50,519 I mean, yeah, it probably is more dangerous out there to some extent, 525 00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:52,759 but also, I don't know, you trip once and you just fall 526 00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:57,559 into a vat of lava, Like, it just seems pretty risky in there 527 00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:02,480 too. Can I share my very weird take about scar King in this? 528 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:08,639 He had a very particular swagger to him and the way he would slouch, 529 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,760 the way he'd walk around. You know what he reminded me of. He 530 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,320 reminded me of Austin Butler in uh, Once upon a Time in Hollywood, 531 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:22,079 and maybe even a bit of Austin Butler in Dune. Like just something about 532 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:27,760 Austin Butler's lanky sort of body and the way he kind of like like stands 533 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,320 or slouches a little bit, and he's kind of got his way about him. 534 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,920 He's got his like snarky little smile. I just couldn't get out of 535 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,239 my head. I was like, this is such a weird choice for scar 536 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:44,440 King's personality. That was my take at least. I did like his looked 537 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,719 like a bandolier of bones, but then he could just like turn it into 538 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,239 a whip and then it also had like the mind control thing for SMI or 539 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,480 whatever. That dude's name was definitely wasn't me. But yeah, I don't 540 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:59,599 know, scar King not the most successful villain to me, just because of 541 00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:06,880 his weird demeanor. That didn't didn't work so much for me. Yeah, 542 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,559 the sword rope sword that he was using very very neat to kind of see 543 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,280 see that in action. I didn't. I didn't realize that the tip of 544 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,320 it would actually be a way of controlling Shemu is the Titan's name which the 545 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,800 Titan was introduced and call Duty war Zone of all places, very very peculiar. 546 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,719 That's really weird. Wait, like there's not like an origin for the 547 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,800 character. No, No, the origin that Call of Duty caldera map where 548 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,519 King con Godzilla fought. If there's cave paintings of Godzilla fighting Shemu and that 549 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:40,920 because isn't that like not available anymore, that mode not available anymore? That 550 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,960 sword originated, So the origin for that character is lost to the annals of 551 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,440 time now as far as I know. Yeah, that's that's really what's it. 552 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,760 It's it's it's something else. My other weird, my other weird takes 553 00:35:53,760 --> 00:36:00,280 are and then you you can talk about Scarface, but scarking Shemu, I 554 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,639 like the I think it was the pastiness of the scales, the shape, 555 00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:09,559 and the eyes. Specifically, he once again, just like how Skarkank looked 556 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:13,960 like Austin Butler, this guy looked like Jim Gaffigan. To me, I 557 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,440 could not unsee it once I started thinking about Jim Gaffigan. He's got this 558 00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:22,800 shapely face, he's got the high sh You're right, he look so much 559 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:34,800 like Jim Gaffig. Oh my god, that's uncanny. I'm popping up like 560 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,159 a four here, like he's in that photo that's Simu right there. It's 561 00:36:37,199 --> 00:36:42,599 kind of it's it's kind of like she Mu. That's crazy. Oh my 562 00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,159 god. I was so glad you said that. I like that you can 563 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:52,000 identified these weird because I know these guys are not mo capping these characters, 564 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:55,000 but it seems like they base it off them to some extent. But yeah, 565 00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:58,440 what did you think of these two? Because I well, I guess 566 00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:02,280 you've known Shemu before. I'm guessing scar King is a new character for this 567 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:08,480 film. As far as I know, scar King is the first other ape 568 00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:14,320 like creature we've seen live action, especially like Sime and I guess facing off 569 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:20,679 against King Kong, for sure, he was definitely terrifying. But I'd be 570 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,320 lying if I said I was not disappointed when they announced scar King and they 571 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:31,119 announced Shimu. I feel like we've really tapped out on all the terrestrial threats 572 00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:36,280 on Earth, and a big thing for me and the Godzilla expanded kind of 573 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:43,000 universe with other kaiju is getting to see these other alien titans, and Kinkidora 574 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,280 is definitely one of those alien titans that we've got to explore, which was 575 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,800 very cool, But I want to see other ones like Destroya. I guess 576 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,440 Astoria is more earth bound, but there's like Space Godzilla, There's Guigan, 577 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,920 There's all these other Is Jedd Jaguar an alien or is he Earth Earth? 578 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,239 He's an Earthling? Okay, Yeah, so I feel like you having the 579 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,960 aliens come into play too with their like titans as well. There's so much 580 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,199 to explore with that. But anyways, I digress skar King. He was 581 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,000 scary, he was cool. They made him very human like, and I 582 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:21,000 think that's something that I'm not again hugely fond of, is these titans acting 583 00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:23,880 more human like. I don't mind Kong having that to a slight degree with 584 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,960 the girl, because he's able to sign with her and communicate with her and 585 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,440 they have a very close relationship. But with all of these titans just being 586 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,679 able to be very human like, it pulls me out. And again that's 587 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,320 why I'm drawn to those first films because the first one you have Godzilla. 588 00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:45,639 He's a monster, he's a titan, and he's just doing what nature kind 589 00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:49,440 of calls him to do, just keep the balance, you could say, 590 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,000 And if cities get in the way, then cities are getting in the way. 591 00:38:52,039 --> 00:38:59,119 But and here it's just yeah, just they're too they're too human like, 592 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,039 and yeah, they kind of just warped, warped things around a little 593 00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:06,559 bit more with that, and I mean, Shemu, he was cool. 594 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,079 I got Actually, yeah, that seems like a that seems like one you'd 595 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:13,960 be into for sure. Yeah, very very cool looking titan. And the 596 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,000 fact that there is a little bit of this lineage lineage backstory that she was 597 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,800 like a prisoner to the scar King and once she breaks free, then she 598 00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:27,119 was like, you know what, fuck this and just frosts scar King. 599 00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:30,159 Ye, the Lazoo. That's kind of cool. Yeah, No, the 600 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:32,719 the I like what you said there with the characterization of it, because yeah, 601 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,159 once again even for like calng and having more interaction with humans, Like, 602 00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:39,400 over time, he's gonna naturally take on some of those things too, 603 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,400 because he's a smart enough creature and he has those mirror neurons and whatnot, 604 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,039 right, so he'll start to like get some of that. But you're right, 605 00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:49,800 it is kind of weird for like that scene. That one scene that 606 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,440 really bothered me is when Kong first shows up there, skar King comes out 607 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,679 of his throne room, he comes down and they points at his tooth and 608 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,800 then he turns back to his lackeys and he starts chuckling, and then like 609 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,239 all all these all these monkeys just start like laughing, and it just felt 610 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,320 like a very much like a bully scene from like any high school movie you've 611 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,280 ever seen in your life. And it just felt really weird. It like 612 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,480 really took me out of it. It didn't feel like, I don't know, 613 00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:17,360 to me, it seemed like maybe too familiar than what these characters should 614 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,519 be doing. So yeah, that and that felt like very much like trying 615 00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:24,880 to put some like very human personality on them, but it just, uh, 616 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,760 it just came across as like really cheesy to me. And so I 617 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,320 think I think scar King didn't start in a great place for me. I 618 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,519 was like almost immediately, like I'm not not a big fan of this guy, 619 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,880 and it's kind of goofy uh, goofy ways. But also, man 620 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:45,920 scar King riding on Shemu at any moment, you take one little bump, 621 00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:51,320 one little stumble, and those spikes are going up. Oh yeah. I 622 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,639 was like, that is a huge risk he's taking, and he's like jumping 623 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:58,480 on this thing. He's riding a hard so I was I was shocked by 624 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,880 that choice. That doesn't seem very smart, but I guess he's been shown 625 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,360 to not be super smart, so maybe that's fair enough. Again, that's 626 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,199 such a cool thing to see. And even the scale of King Kong jumping 627 00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:13,440 and riding on the side of Godzilla while they were charging. I thought that 628 00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:15,280 was a cool moment. I like that, it is very cool. But 629 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,639 again, the scale, the scale factor, it would have been so cool 630 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:24,079 to actually see that more from our level of perspective and not just our level 631 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,679 just panned out to take in the fact that, Okay, that's just a 632 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,440 really big It just didn't feel like that that's a great point. Like, 633 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,239 even at the end of this movie, I have no idea how big Minikong 634 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,800 is. I could not tell you. I don't know if he's ten feet 635 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,039 tall, it could be fifty feet tall. I truly have no clue. 636 00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,800 And I think that just goes to like this movie I had very much like 637 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,679 that ant Man quantum Mania element to it, or like so much of it 638 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:54,280 is just completely CGI backgrounds with huge CGI characters that you just get lost in 639 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,440 it, right, And I think for a movie like this, you like, 640 00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:00,360 that's a really good point, Like the scale bill is a big part 641 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,440 of the fantasy that we're invested in as a viewer and why we why people 642 00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,760 care about Godzell in the first place, and how those original movies back and 643 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,719 then they tried to do it without special effects is funny to look back on. 644 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,199 But yeah, I think they've kind of lost it a bit. And 645 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,360 just when you have a CGI backgrounds, when you have CGI buildings and then 646 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,000 all these CGI creatures that are supposed to be different scales, but then they 647 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:25,119 kind of just seems like scene to scene they can kind of be different sizes 648 00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:29,119 depending on what the scene needs. You're right, it just gets a bit 649 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,960 gets a bit muddy, it really does. I'm gonna throw in one more 650 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:40,880 muddy fact after this quick ad break and we're back. So the whole surface 651 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,079 battle that we get to in the city at the end, like yeah, 652 00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:51,320 like I get that, that's more of that scale factor that just doesn't feel 653 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,519 like it exists there, but just the some cool scenery though. I will 654 00:42:54,559 --> 00:43:00,679 admit when scar King like whips ropes ropes sort around a building and then like 655 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,360 throws that building towards King Kong. King Kong like punches it. Rest in 656 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,920 peace every soul that was working in that office because they're fucked, just absolutely 657 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:15,239 annihilated. But yeah, overall, I think that was I think it was 658 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,960 pretty cool. Yeah, well, what was your favorite action sequence, because 659 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,119 you have like the anti gravity sequence, you have that I guess that sequence 660 00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:28,440 in scar King's domain, and then that chase scene, you have that final 661 00:43:28,519 --> 00:43:34,639 battle, you have Kong versus Godzilla again in Egypt against the Pyramids. Do 662 00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:37,719 you have a favorite? I would have to say I loved when Godzilla I 663 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:43,320 can't remember the name of this this creature Titanicus, the underwater battle. That's 664 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,960 something we haven't really gotten to see in the other Godzilla films against that snake 665 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:52,320 like thing against the Yeah, the snakelike thing underwater when Godzilla is like swimming 666 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,239 in and that snake thing was fighting Godzilla underwater. It was cool. It 667 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,280 was it was brief, but it was a really cool sequence. You'd have 668 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,320 to be a dumb ass to be in that submarine and be like, let's 669 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,920 go in, let's get up close, Like why are you going with tiamatt 670 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,559 right that one? Yeah? Yeah, Like god dang, why are you 671 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,400 getting close in here with this this battle going on? They made it out 672 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,840 there, made it out alive. Geez. Yeah. The alteration to Godzilla 673 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,920 too, I'm not a big fan of his new look. I'm kind of 674 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:25,280 a sucker for the og look. They made his scales a lot more sticking 675 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,880 out, a more fin like, and they made like his neck more like 676 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,400 aquatic and fin like. So he's definitely gone through. He's like adapting, 677 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,119 I guess, to his the environment more. Maybe maybe adapting, but I'd 678 00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:40,760 say like when he went in there and took over that radiation home, that 679 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,559 den from that other lizard thing, I mean that that changed his appearance. 680 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:50,320 He don't he right, he's juiced? Yeah? Yeah, so, less 681 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,239 so the like new colors and whatnot, but more like the extra spine. 682 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:59,119 I love the new colors, just the cosmetic skin that he purchased. I'm 683 00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:04,239 not I'm not digging out. Yeah, I think maybe it's a boring take, 684 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,880 but I think Godzilla was my favorite of the uh of the U Kaiju. 685 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,679 I guess in this movie, he's just cool. And you know, 686 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,360 I thought I would be more of a King Kong guy, because I once 687 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,199 again I have a lot of love for that older movie, and it's a 688 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,599 character in general I tend to like more. But I think there's something so 689 00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:22,719 cool about godzill here, and I thought there were some really cool shots. 690 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,239 The one I really liked is when King Kong comes up to the surface and 691 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,079 he's kind of like baiting Godzilla over to him by the pyramids. I think 692 00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:35,000 that's that moment, and Godzilla like climbs up this like mountain, the Rock 693 00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,519 of Gibraltar. I think they called it something like that. I don't know 694 00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:39,639 if I might be mixed up scenes here then, just like him jumping off 695 00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:45,079 and diving in. I thought that was really cool to see. One thing 696 00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:46,639 I like too, and other details. The other sequence when they're in the 697 00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:52,800 water with King Kong and the Mini Kong and that ray quasi looking thing like 698 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,159 when when they were trudging through the water, I feel like they did a 699 00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:59,159 good job of capturing the scale with the water there. Rather than it being 700 00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:01,800 like little splack, it was like, you know, these huge like swashes 701 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,679 of water that really feel like they had the weight of like them going thirty 702 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,000 feet in the air just when with each step that King Kong was taking. 703 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,440 So I thought they did a good job with that. So I guess just 704 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,599 in general, like maybe the water they do a good job with. In 705 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,079 terms of the CGI here, that was some of the better stuff. And 706 00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:21,639 I mean smashing into the pyramids is always gonna be fun. Yeah, I 707 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:27,400 kind of liked how they really focused on this three triangles kind of concept, 708 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,119 and I really liked true when you go into this the center earth, hollow 709 00:46:32,159 --> 00:46:38,400 Earth temple where the the tribe was residing. They remember correctly, they had 710 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:44,559 like three distinct pyramids. Well, they had the two that were upside down 711 00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:47,599 that they could like remind to send signals out, but they had three. 712 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,360 I'm pretty sure they had three pyramids and those two because there was all those 713 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,000 crystals too, and I know some of the two of the crystals were like 714 00:46:57,039 --> 00:46:58,800 in an X shape, and I don't know if I was supposed to be 715 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,480 just like for the movie, it was just like a little marketing thing. 716 00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:07,000 Yeah, but I liked how yeah, these three crystal pyramids and at the 717 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,719 top, just above it, above through the portal, you got the three 718 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,559 Pyramids of Giza. I didn't even think about that. That's a great h 719 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,280 that's a great notice. Just the reflection from up above it down below. 720 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,719 I appreciated that. But yeah, the pyramids just getting absolutely fucked up was 721 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,039 nuts. But yeah, you're right. When King Kong was like looking at 722 00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:29,679 the portal and looking back at Godzilla, Godzilla was like charging I and King 723 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,960 Kong's like going like this, like wait wait, yeah, yeah, he 724 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,239 did not work. But I liked that eventually, just he's like, you 725 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,760 know what, fucking I just got to show him what the hell I'm talking 726 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,320 about down here, and then he'll believe me, and then you do get 727 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,480 that team up moment. So I thought that was actually well done. Of 728 00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:47,079 like we like, obviously this is not godzill versus Kong two. It's Godzilla 729 00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:52,559 times or X Kong. I still don't know what exactly that means in their 730 00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:54,360 definition, but you know it's gonna happen at some point. But I still 731 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,920 think they did a good job of like building up that moment because it could 732 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,320 have just been that where when you put those hands up, Godzilla could have 733 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,239 just stopped and I don't know how they would have communicated, but maybe do 734 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,159 some sign language or something that Godzilla could read, and then you have friendship 735 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,960 just like that. But I like that we kind of had to, I 736 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,400 don't know, we had to build up to it a bit more to build 737 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,800 up. Yeah, and thatt of scenes who I really enjoyed was when King 738 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,960 Kong like he punches, it just knocks out Godzilla and then it pans to 739 00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:27,079 the next scene and he's just fucking dragging god to this portal will throw men. 740 00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:30,079 That made me laugh, and Godzilla is just murking all the pyramids and 741 00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:36,159 you just it reminded me of the way that King Kong ran out behind that 742 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,760 first pyramid. You remember season five of Mister Sinister running down the alley behind 743 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:45,679 cyclops. Oh yeah, of that for some reason, but uh yeah, 744 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,159 then you get you get Mathra popping in he yeah, he said, the 745 00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:52,679 I do. And you've seen King of the Monsters, so you would remember. 746 00:48:53,159 --> 00:49:01,039 Maybe you remember Mathro like it was yesterday. I really don't, like 747 00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:06,599 it's only been one movie since we lost Mathra, but I remember seeing on 748 00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:08,519 Godzilla forums people are like, oh, Maths coming back, and people were 749 00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:12,920 predicting Matha's gonna come back. I don't know how, but yeah, what 750 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,960 is I guess? I guess I need some info here then, because it 751 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,119 seems like from what I got here, Mather's been like, you know, 752 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,000 in a freaking hidden vault for thousands of years, waiting for the chosen One 753 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:29,079 to come back and revive and you know, awaken Mathra again. So so 754 00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:35,960 what happened in between Mathra in that movie and then Mathra here? So Mathra 755 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,960 Mathra was basically like an egg, and if I remember correctly, which I 756 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,199 probably don't, I believe like it's a consistent cycle soul. There's a Mathra 757 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:50,280 and the Mathra lays an egg and then oh okay, so it's a new 758 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,960 a new gotcha that keeps on going. So Maths technically always like at I 759 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,480 could say, but yeah, Mathra died and King of the Monsters because she 760 00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:07,400 like threw her essence and like dissipated onto Godzilla. So Godzilla beat Kinky Dora 761 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,440 and then if here, yeah, there's no egg or anything like that. 762 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,760 It just seems like it was just she was just summoned. She she's the 763 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,000 queen of the monsters. Godzilla is the king of the monsters. They're not 764 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:20,119 a couple, but they definitely have a very that could be the next one, 765 00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:23,880 the next one. Yeah, they definitely have a very a very compatible 766 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,039 relationship, as you can see here. When Mathra appeared, Godzilla is like, 767 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,679 okay, yeah, I'm gonna stop. Yeah, yeah, I really 768 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:37,440 liked Godzilla using the Roman colosseum as his little like, oh yeah, his 769 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,199 little cat little nook out. Like cats, you know, they always like 770 00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:45,440 twirl around a bunch of times in their little cozy little pouches there. This 771 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,719 is a random question you've kind of you know, you've answered this in passing, 772 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,760 but like, how do you feel this movie is as a sequel specifically, 773 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,800 like in terms of things you wanted based on the previous movies and Monarch 774 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,480 and all this stuff, Like, I don't know, did it did it 775 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:06,159 further those storylines or that lore in a way that you really think adds adds 776 00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:12,559 to this I guess series now it gives me, It gives me a peace 777 00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:16,400 of mind and happiness to know that King Kong has found his kin and he's 778 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,440 with his own kind. Now I really like that. I like that a 779 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,400 lot, actually, But as far as it goes story wise and what it 780 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:30,400 adds to add to the universe and the world the world building, I'm not 781 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,119 as excited as I wish I could be. I wanted to get the other 782 00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:37,559 things like the alien the alien Titans and all that kind of stuff thrown into 783 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:40,119 here. I think that would have been a lot, a lot more fun 784 00:51:40,159 --> 00:51:45,239 to divulge into, because I feel like everything that we've gotten in these movies 785 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:51,000 has just consistently been threats on Earth, Earth bearing problems and whatnot. Humans 786 00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:55,440 versus titans, YadA, YadA, YadA. There was the other what was 787 00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,920 that other Titan? That was really really cool to see which sequence it was 788 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:08,400 when Godzilla was dealing with I think it was in Spain that Spider. Oh 789 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:14,239 yeah, Silla is his name, Yeah, Priscilla Silla, Scilla s c 790 00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:17,440 y l A. And that's an old school Titan. So that was how 791 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,039 Yeah, So those are some quality of life things where they're adding in those 792 00:52:25,159 --> 00:52:31,159 those Titans and whatnot. There's one quick scene with a podcaster. He's going 793 00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:37,239 through his notebook and he's talking about the signal appearing at certain times when Godzilla 794 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,079 fought King key Door for the first time, and other events throughout history. 795 00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:45,360 But I really want to just pause and freeze frame that piece of paper he 796 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,639 has because he's got all those notes, and that's what I like. And 797 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,039 usually in other Godzilla Universe movies, you get you get those sequences where you 798 00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:55,000 just you want to look through all the notes and see, like someone has 799 00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:58,880 like a book that's hanging on the desk and there's a little easter eggs and 800 00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:01,679 whatnot in there. There's a lot of background stuff, like these Titan locations 801 00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:06,480 that they are unveiling. I want to look more into that because there's there's 802 00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,480 They do a good job at kind of adding to the world through those little 803 00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:14,079 tiny easter eggs. So that's that's the kind of thing I appreciate. I 804 00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:15,559 have to imagine there was a post credit scene in this movie, but I 805 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,760 know there was not, okay, because I pieced out right when it ended. 806 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:27,079 Yeah, I'm surprised, Yeah, because I didn't. Didn't School Island 807 00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:30,400 have that have one School Island did, and that was them alluding to uh 808 00:53:31,159 --> 00:53:37,280 the it was alluding to Godzilla, wasn't it versus Kong? Yeah? That 809 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,360 my god? How do I remember that? It was so long ago? 810 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:44,400 But yeah, I'm surprised they didn't do one here. I guess. I 811 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,039 don't know. Do we know? Is anything else confirmed coming in like terms 812 00:53:47,079 --> 00:53:51,559 of Monarch season two or like the next movie? Like, I guess, 813 00:53:51,559 --> 00:53:53,400 we don't really know right now, do we. I don't think there's a 814 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,679 Monarch season two and I don't I couldn't tell you if we're getting another one. 815 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:04,159 I would not be surprised that this is the last last one. I 816 00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:07,320 feel like it's yeah again. I said that because I thought the Godzilla versus 817 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,440 cong was gonna be the last one, but then I got this one. 818 00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:15,480 Uh. If this one does well in theaters and maybe overseas it does really 819 00:54:15,519 --> 00:54:19,159 really well, then I could see us getting another one. But I don't 820 00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:22,360 want more of this. I want them to really change up the story. 821 00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:25,440 I don't like I At this point, there was a quick scene where you 822 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:31,480 see like Mathro in the background, you see Shimu, Godzilla, King Kong, 823 00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:35,320 and Mini Kong. Like, man, we got our Avengers right now? 824 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,119 I know? Yeah? What? Like the Ultimately this does feel like 825 00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:44,000 an endgame moment of bringing all these freaking Kaiju together. It really does. 826 00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:47,559 So what what can you do in a story to have these characters space off 827 00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:52,320 against I mean, you've you've a space Honestly, as you said, Aliens, 828 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,519 that's like the perfect thing to set up, because now you have this 829 00:54:53,639 --> 00:54:59,800 new threat that is foreign to to all of them. That's plus Jed Jaguar. 830 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,360 Get him in the mix. I gotta get him in there for sure. 831 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:07,000 So I hope that they go that route and they do that, but 832 00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:10,039 there's there's still room to explore. But I don't know how many more movies 833 00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:13,760 you can do the same old, same old, And for me, this 834 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:22,559 feels like Godzilla versus Kong but lesser. So yeah, my I think My 835 00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:27,519 last note was I do love I love a good combo attack, as anyone 836 00:55:27,519 --> 00:55:31,199 listening to the X Men retro knows video game things. I've mentioned this before, 837 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,880 but I love that moment when like Godzilla like whips I think scar King 838 00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:40,800 into Kong. He grabs scar King and then I'm forgetting the exact word of 839 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,719 events here, and then Shimu freezes scar King, and then I thought he 840 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,880 was just gonna I thought Kong was just gonna like squeeze and like crush the 841 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,639 ice in his hand, but instead, no, he goes for like the 842 00:55:52,679 --> 00:55:55,960 full like jump high in the sky, crash him down into the earth, 843 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,519 and just shatter him into a million pieces. It was sweet. I'm into 844 00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:04,840 it. That's what I like to see. Yeah, I feel I'm not 845 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,639 huge viewer of WWE, but I feel like they definitely copied some moves from 846 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:16,880 Yeah, definitely what you might see in the I can't think if I have 847 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:22,159 anything else on my notes. I feel like we've pretty much touched upon everything 848 00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:30,239 right on. Yeah, same for me. Well, final thoughts, Yeah, 849 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,360 final thoughts. I don't know. This was a This is a fun 850 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,840 review with you because obviously you're It's just like our Halo reviews are. You're 851 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,599 the master. You know everything, and I know like a little bit, 852 00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:42,480 and so it's nice to pick your brain on certain things. But I hope 853 00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:45,599 whatever comes next for I mean, you had God's Own minus one last year, 854 00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:47,280 so in terms of like really high quality stuff, it seems like you 855 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,960 haven't had too long of a wait. But I hope whatever happens next in 856 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,199 this universe is something that's a bit more to your liking. A bit more 857 00:56:53,199 --> 00:56:57,239 to your to your style, and yeah, this is a fun time. 858 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,119 I'm glad I went and saw this movie. I should probably go back and 859 00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:04,119 watch Versus. At this point I think, I think I want to after 860 00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:07,440 this a weird order of events and then Monarch, I don't know, we'll 861 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,079 see where where do you stream that one these days? That was on Apple? 862 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,960 Okay, I don't have Apple these days. Maybe next time I subscribe 863 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,280 to Apple, I'll check it out. But overall, it was a fine 864 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,800 movie, you know, a fun time the theater, one of those popcorn 865 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,320 flick sort of things. So yeah, I think that's my final thoughts. 866 00:57:24,599 --> 00:57:30,519 Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed seeing this movie on the big screen. I 867 00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:35,039 watched in three D. That was the earlier showing that I could access, 868 00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:37,000 so I thought, yeah, let's do it. But yeah, I think 869 00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:40,480 that they hit some things great. I liked a lot of the humor. 870 00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:45,760 I liked the action, and I like getting to explore more of this world, 871 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:50,880 even though they were kind of doing it in the way that I not 872 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,480 the right way, but still in a way that I can get behind, 873 00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:57,079 that I can enjoy. There are other things that I want and maybe we'll 874 00:57:57,079 --> 00:58:01,280 get that in a sequel, but the characters the actor and not the actors, 875 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:06,960 the titans and whatnot. Like I'm always happy to see titans and fights 876 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,440 and all that kind of stuff. That's what makes these movies so so kooky 877 00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:14,679 and crazy these days. I hope that we do return to form like we 878 00:58:14,719 --> 00:58:19,400 did with Gods of the King of the Monsters and just kind of visit back 879 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,400 that theme that we got in that first Godzilla movie. But yeah, I'm 880 00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:28,119 I'm not going to rush to revisit this movie very quickly. I'm kind of 881 00:58:28,159 --> 00:58:30,679 like you. I do want to go watch Godzilla versus King Kong again. 882 00:58:30,719 --> 00:58:35,639 Yeah, I don't see you making this your Golden Gigs pick for this year. 883 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,800 No, no, this isn't my Golden Giates pick. I'm excited to 884 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,800 see that ranking though, when that's up on letterbox, I would check that 885 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:45,880 out. Yeah, I mean it's it'll be I have to think where I'm 886 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,400 going to put this compared to a couple of the other films. Well actually 887 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,800 maybe just one, yeah, one other one. But yeah, I'll figure 888 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:59,559 out that ranking. I'm gonna give this a probably a of a six point 889 00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:02,760 five. Whoa, Okay, say, yeah that's lower than I thought. 890 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:09,039 But Uh, Like I wasn't applausing applauding the film at the end like other 891 00:59:09,079 --> 00:59:13,800 people were. So clearly, people are really really hyped on this movie, 892 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,679 and it has it's it's it's fan base. But that's a nice thing about 893 00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:23,079 this franchise is there's so many movies now and there's something for everyone. What 894 00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:25,960 is it six point five? Sorry? Six point five was the final? 895 00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:29,239 What does that translate to you on letterbox? For you? Is that a 896 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,039 two and a half? A three out of five? For me? Three? 897 00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:37,000 Okay? Gotcha? Nice? Yeah, yeah that's what. That sounds 898 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,480 better than six point five for some reason. Isn't numbers are weird? Aren't 899 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:44,320 they? Numbers are weird? Yeah? They are cool. All right. 900 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,360 Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for tuning into this episode of The 901 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:52,400 Keeper's Podcast. Hope you enjoyed it. We'll be back probably with our X 902 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,159 Men review next week, Yeah I think yeah. So until then, we'll 903 00:59:55,159 --> 01:00:01,159 see you in the search bar. Bye bye,